Watch What Crappens - RHOSLC: Swing and a Missus

Episode Date: November 21, 2020

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I'm Ronnie, that's been over there. Happy Ann. Hi, what's going on? You can see Ben because we are on Crappings on to Man today. Doing the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, episode two, which was quite a romp. Quite a romp. Lots of romping happening. Quite a swing through the Salt Lake City jungle, if you will.

Good. Swing, swing. Wow. Super fun. So we're going to do today tomorrow. We're gonna do Southern charm So don't worry. We are gonna have a Southern charm episode this week It's just gonna come out on a Saturday, okay, and we're also gonna be on video for that also today I wanted to shout out my sister Carly's business. So we're still in Corona time the world is shutting down yet again business. So we're still in Corona time. The world is shutting down yet again, the whole world, but schools are closing again, all that fun stuff. So you need my sister right now. Okay. She runs a site called MyMathVideos.com and she is a home school teacher, a private tutor, and she has

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Environment so if you've got one of those kids if you need to learn what your kids are learning you need her so go to my MathVideos.com. I'll also put that on our Facebook later. So if you need to find a great service. That's a great service. That's like really really wonderful. That's and that's really useful. So yeah, everyone go check that out That's great. Help the children the children are a future Teach them sing a poor and let them lead the way So here we are with my favorite new musical the real house was a Salt Lake city the real housewives of Salt Lake City. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, band. A boy can dream. I was actually thinking did they actually get a choir for this or are they just using some garage band bullshit?

Not the garage band. Look, we love garage band. Obviously we use it for everything, but girl, there's some choir people who are living the life right now. If they're using live choir voices like, bitch, I was on the housewives assault like city, okay? I harmonized with that person, like, I went, I went, I did the instrumentals for that scene where the girl got called Swinger on a ski slope.

So... Well, the show opens up, episode two opens up with a nice close-up of one of the chunky strippers at this party that's still going on at Jen's house That's for Meredith, but it's really for Jen and then we see dancing lots of fun dancing and then we see Jen She's like she's I want to say she's backstage But she's just like in a room away from the party and she's with her her makeup artist Cammy And she's like who the fuck says that shit?

That's like looking a little baby with cancer. Looking at a little baby with cancer and saying, oh, you smell like cancer. Oh, are you kidding me right now? Are you kidding me, cancer smeller? Like, it's not really the same thing. Yeah. And of course, we're talking about this hospital smell

fight, which is still continuing from last week. Yeah, and she's like, I defend my family. And she says, I hope your answer. Okay. Oh, do you do you really bitch because that's who fucking raise me. And she's like waving her finger just like going as crazy as possible. I remember when we were recapping the preview of the show, the one-minute long preview for an hour and a half that we did. We were wondering what this room she keeps going to is. And you remember where is this a speech about? Is it like backstage at a party? What is it? And I think it's funny that she has her own backstage meeting room in her house. You know? Yeah, she has wings. When people say they have wings in her house, you know. Yeah, she has wings. When people say they have wings in their house, they usually mean like there's like a whole

like expansive rooms. She actually has theater wings. Like she's actually in the wings at her house. And she's like every stereotype of a house, so I've just tried to start fights over nothing and just screaming and waving your finger and going this, but she's like proud of it. You know, like sometimes you feel bad for these tragic characters like her, but she is actually,

she's like, I buy my friends because my family is never home. So I pay for a family, but Bragg's about it. Like, look at me. I'm able to afford a family. Well, she was like clearly very proud about her cancer baby, you cancer baby analogy. It's like, if you see a baby with cancer, it's exactly like that. And you say, you smell like cancer. By the way, who would say that to a baby with cancer? And I'm not saying, of course, her question is who would say that. But also, why would you say that to a baby anyway? The baby's not going to understand you.

You smell like cancer baby. Like the baby's gonna be like, I literally don't know. I don't even know what's happening. Like I just want milk while I'm at. Yeah, what does cancer smell like? I don't know, so many questions. Like this fight is bringing up too many questions

than it's worth, because it makes no sense. So Heather comes in and she's like, what is going on, babe? Come here, I saw what was going on I'm so sorry let's talk about it what's wrong babe and she's just having a fit disrespecting my family how dare she and she's like why are they even this fight is ridiculous yeah she's like this is the craziest thing I don't even know why we're talking about it right now. This is absurd.

And Jen is still just like going off. She's like, she's in my goddamn house. She's looking dressed like a fucking Christmas tree. Oh, guess what? You smell like Christmas tree. That was for you, cancer baby. You smell like Christmas cancer baby. Have that meal. You mix it up, Jen. You mix it up, Jenny. Mix it up. And then she's like, you know what? I don't bring just anyone in my circle. And her friend, her little hanger on friend who started this whole mass is like, Oh, yes, it's a privilege to be in your circle. We know that.

You want, you want her to come talk about it with you? Cause here she is. And Mary just kind of comes waddling in like, what? Mary is so confused. Mary is a real oddity. I mean, she's fascinating. I don't know. So she's comes in in what Jen called the Lufa dress.

And she's like, what's going on? What? Like, cancer, I mean, cancer spell. Is there a cancer baby in here? What's going on? And so, so she's like Heather's like, why would you say that Mary? Why did you say that?

And Jenna's just sitting there. She just somehow, I've like procured like a giant ostrich feather or something. She's just like fanning herself aggressively because again, she also has this weird perspiration issue that she's paranoid about. So she's like, we're gonna hear it all, like all anger fanning.

Well, she got her fucking armpits, Botox, so they don't sweat anymore. So now she's just got sweat coming out of like her nost, you know, like right above her nostril or like right at the side of her temple. She's just coming out everyone under the weave, you know, it's just coming out everywhere now. So she's fanning yourself. And Heather's like, I mean, you said she smelled like hospital. Is that true? It's like, I mean, you said she smelled like hospital. Is that true?

I was like, no, I didn't say she smelled like hospital. I said, it smelled like hospital. She was, oh, but then why would you say that? So now we're just gonna make fun of Pennywise the clown. It smells like hospital. That's not nice. Now, wonder that clown was so mean to children. And so the Mary, Mary starts getting dramatic now. Now Mary's like, like hyperventilating. She's

like, I ended up being in the hospital for a month. And I'd never been in the hospital in my life. Well, except to have my son. And I mean mean that was just one person he came right at. But I had to get my own eyes for me. I had 12 older glam surgeries. And then I ended up being in there for 30 days. So that's smell. I couldn't take that smell. I'm like well, but maybe you should have left your own glance in there. Maybe you should have, and I liked also she goes, she tells us because I'm sorry, but Jen and her entire crew They all smell like hospital. Like okay, that everyone's almost like a hospital. That doesn't even make sense anymore So funny, I was dying watching this so then we go to Whitney talking to Meredith and hold on let me get my head Oh Whitney is the blonde kind of dodo bird. Okay. So we're just talking to Meredith. And she's like, so, you know, we were just sitting here talking and then

Jen and Mary were talking and then Jen got really emotional. I'm not really sure what. So then Meredith wants to go see what's happening. Yeah. Exactly. So Meredith goes in there and then a Jen is saying, she's like, you tell me that hospitals are a terrible reminder for you. You don't have to tell me that hospitals are a terrible reminder for me. It's like a hospital terrible reminder off. Yes, no, I sat there for 90 days watching my father die. That's right. I raised double amputation with father death.

Yeah. Guys, nobody likes being in the hospital. Okay. Like literally nobody, even doctors don't like being in the hospital, okay? And they have to go there. Yeah. So they chose to go there. So Jim's like, oh yeah, but my my nine days I was there.

And Mary's like, I know then where are you harping on me? And she's like, because you're trying to justify something. And Mary is like, ladies, ladies, I'm not gonna train just if I was rang it or wrong. Let's just have fun. Yeah, exactly. By the way, Meredith, I feel like I'm still trying to figure out what her voice sounds like. Is it like friend's Russia? There's such a lazy game.

She's on a speak flying grass. Yeah, one of my fans is like a little New York, but she's also from Chicago. So she's on her hands, but she's going on. She's like a Zostee. She just sounds like Zostee. She talks like this. She talks like who talks like this? It is a little friend's relationship, but not. She's so beautiful. She looks like Brooksheel's in talks like this.

It's, now on gets between me and my calvans, except for maybe some underwear, but that's expected. So no one knows what the fight is at this point, right? So Mary's like, okay, well, what's your real issue? Like, what's the real issue? Cause just like, there's deeper issues here. Talk about the real issues. She's like, okay, well, what is the real issue? She goes, that my aunt got double amputated and you said it, smells like hospital. And we're just like, all right, but you're in the middle of throwing a party right now. It's not the time.

And then Mary just goes, I'm sorry if I hurt you. I never want to hurt you. Come over here, please. And then they just hug. I'm gonna be just hug. I'm in so hurry. I'm in so hurry.

I'm in so hurry. Yeah. And Jen still thinks it's bullshit, but she's like, you know what, I'm hosting a party. So for the sake of Meredith, I'm gonna move forward. But Mary Crosby, I'm watching you. I'm watching you.

Yeah. So then back in the party, Lisa, who's the most obnoxious, probably. Yes. She's still walking around complimenting everybody's everything. Like love your face. Oh my God. Did you get a new neck? Love your neck. Whitney 123 big laugh. Takes a picture. Love that. Love that. Yeah. So Whitney, I feel like I'm trying. Whitney to me seems like someone who's in a paper towel commercial, right? Like she's telling us like life is hard sometimes. And that's why even though there are big spills at least I've got bounty, you know, like I feel like she actually says that to people on a daily

basis. Yeah. You know, I sort of has that like cadence, you know, so she's also like the girl, she seems like that, but then she's the girl on high school who's just trying to be rebellious at all times. Like look at me, I'm smoking in English class. It's like you're holding Hamlet in your hand. That's not smoking. I got pregnant on purpose just to piss off my mom. I'm naming my baby, fuck you mom, okay.

And the other thing with Whitney is that like at first I thought the producers were just feeding her lines because everything she says sounds like she's like Reading off of a script, but then I realized that's just how she talks. She just talks like she's reading a script But she's not So Lisa is Talking to her and she's like She's like how are you Lisa? She's like crazy. Is he so you babranoo? Ha did it go. I think you want that that she hasn't a in all of her words uh everything you want that and so I call the drinks for great just good because

our bartenders are not boss bar tanda well did you talk to them in detail at all by any chance like no I haven't talked to either of them So like well, they were having a little bit of fun too and then we find out that Lisa donated Which is in all caps so you have to yell at every time you say Vita tequila because it's all caps So Lisa donated a bunch of her Vita tequila and a couple of bartenders to serve it at this party But then they served a little too much of themselves and not my guests. And then we see a flashback of like the bartender

just like, whoa, like this. And when he's like picking up glass, and she's like, my brand new house is completely fucked up. And because she talks like she's on a script, like, I can't believe they ruined my brand new house. It's broken. The bar is is wrecked the class is broken and my husband's whiskey Ireland has been opened up that's top shop stuff. Oh, well my ta-cala is top shop Yeah, but like that was whiskey you can't get in America

so can't get in America. So. So now Lisa's mad. She's a fan that she's like, if you call me and I'm asking for a have Vita DeKila there and you're asking for a donation, or you want to have, if you would have gone to a liquor store,

I'd generously give someone and then you shit on it, that's not cool, okay? And then we switched to her interview session and her face is stretched out, is squished in, is stretched out. Did you notice that? I don't know if it was a stretched video or a bad final...

AltheToods circus. With. With. Or if it was just her face stretching up and in, but it was scary. She's a scary person. She's like, I wanna look like Zion National Park, one of Utah's great treasures.

And Lisa's like, well, maybe the problem is that you guys run out of matikila. And she goes, well, you know what's funny? We ran out at like six o'clock. And she's like, oh, that's shocking to me. Because we saw enough for like 500 pop-up. And then, then Lisa's like, what Lisa does with a gift I gave her? It's up to her.

If I give you a Chanel necklace and you choke on it, that's your problem. Not mine. I'm like, actually, I think, yes, but like if it depends how you give it to her. And also, like, people can be responsible for the things that they give you. That can come it to her. And also, like, people can be responsible for the things that they give you. Let that can come back to you. Well, Lisa's like, hopefully, well, hopefully, I was a good time. That's not something I'm like that.

And she's like, oh, no, I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble. She goes, well, I just won't use them ever again. I won't use them ever again. So like, well, I just want you to know that you, you know, I know that you want a runnotype ship because you're so amazing. You really are. You're just so amazing.

And it goes boom. And then it suddenly goes, all right, well, it was my posture. Okay, I love doing it. And then she turns right around and walks to Meredith. And she's like, I'm going home. I don't want to back here. It was, I was so generous.

And I gave Whitney to Kila for 500 pop-up. And I'm sorry, her party turned into a nightmare, but she's like, we have to talk about your rap, a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- I'm sorry if I have sent over my my Tiquilla and two people that are supposed to represent my company and those two people break glass and drink shit or whatever My reaction not to be like well you ruin my gift That's your what you do with my gift is what you do I'm like I'd be like oh, I am really sorry and I'd be like those guys are fired You know, but the fact that she's like oh she is so obnoxious then those those parts that what you do with my guess is what you do with my guess Vita tequila

So Whitney's like oh well now I realize that Lisa's mad at me for telling her she's not perfect and her brand's not perfect By the way, I don't even drink Tequila I keep my cousin me goes in the back I'm a rebel So then yeah, then Lisa storms that she's like don't fuck with me. That's it. I'm done. Don't fuck with me I'm like lady. I love like that But don't fuck with me and it was like Whitney was like no, I really appreciate it. I just really loved it I just want you know the bartenders like we're like not great. Just don't fuck with me. And it was like Whitney was like, no, I really appreciate it. I just really loved it.

I just wanted to know the bartenders were like, not great. Don't fuck with me. It's like vacuum-waring. And now we're at Genstelle in the daytime. And she's got her whole staff of friend slash family, friend employees, as we call them, working to clean up before her husband gets home

because she told them she was just having a few girls over. And he's like, why were there so many people here? How many people came and Jen's like, just the girls. He goes, well, if your next starts popping, then there's a problem. It's just like that's it's like a micro scene, like just hilarious husband, wife, antics. Yeah, it's like the beginning of the one of the housewives doing today kind of thing. And Whitney's back at her house, so she's like, I know what people are thinking, like,

what is this more than a girl doing with a stripper pull in her house? Exactly. I've been living in suppression my whole life. What do you expect? And then we see her on that stripper pull for like the 15th time. How has this show been on only two episodes, but we've seen like six hours worth of her on that stripper poll? With that terrible rose tattoo on her side, because you know, her last name is Rose, so she has a rose tattoo. It looks like it's like, it looks like a festering infection over there. I'm like, girl, yeah, don't get festering

infection tattoos. And her daughter is watching her on the pole. And she's like, Mom, what have you been doing your whole life that I've been missing out on? She's like preparing for battle, stripper battle. I'm on the pole again. And then we go over to Heather who's like taking a selfie. She has a new ski helmet on, so she's taking a selfie, but then it turns into a face time with Meredith. And it's like, we gotta go, we gotta go.

We gotta do something. So they decide they're gonna just plan a ski trip for the girls. Yeah, we're gonna snowboard. So then Lisa is talking to her husband at home. God, this one was such a nightmare. Okay, this is how her scene starts. The Sundance.

I think I can get in some crystal bottles done from Serovsky. Oh, did you start? Did you finish the commandments? Cause I'm doing a girl's ski day on Thursday. You need a learner command mat. Oh Heather's noticing Whitney's gonna be there. I'm still irritated. I mean, I do everything for everybody all the time.

And this trosh is telling me I don't do anything for anybody. It's just making me feel like trosh. You're trosh, strep a pull. I mean, I was wanting to get my and it's just like on and on and just keeps getting to show the husband having to sit there for like an hour listening to her. When's that ski trip? hmm see i was totally being totally generous i brought a keelah i brought her mixes i was even fighting to drop the power renewals i'd never get to say thank you you know be done then i went to

jarrad i actually got myself some jewelry from Jared Yes, I did it. I'm just gonna say it right there. I went to shake shack afterwards. Guess what? They don't shake any Shacks there. It's actually burgers. I wanted to shake a shack, but they didn't allow me to do it I'm done. I'm done. He's like your way too generous as always honey. Oh, yeah I'm done. I'm done. Take out the trash. I gave you a gift. Say thank you. I'll be done. And he's like, so do you want me feedback here? She's, no, I just want to talk. I'm in my mind. She's like, I gave us some friendly, listen, you know,

the way we left it, it's good. Okay, we're all good. Okay, because afterwards I sent her a text, and you know what, I gave us some friendly advice, and I'm good. I'm good. You're a little friendly advice. How so, that's fairly important. I always go, well, and he's like, well, are you going to let it affect you? And she's

like, I was shot at Don. That's it. We're bad. I did a good deed. I was done to us. We're done. You did a good deed. You put your, you put your tequila on national TV at her party. You did a really good deed. You branded. You got some branding into someone's bowel renewal. So then we go to ski shop with Heather and Wetna because they need new things for Skag. Yeah, party on the mountain. I'm Whitney.

So they're like picking up boots and stuff. She has like a board that needs to be, Whitney has a board that needs to be waxed. So it's like the usual stuff about, you know, like, oh my God, such cool stuff here. Oh my God, if I wear the, Heather, if you wear those, those boots, they're gonna think you're young, you know?

And Heather's saying like, like how she grew up on the slope. So if you didn't, if you live here in Dunt's ski, it's definitely a tragedy. Yeah. And so like, Pat Thumb extra wax on her snowboard. She's a rubble, rhyme. So then they start having their little talk

and Whitney's like, what did you think of the party? And Heather's like, I've been processing it for three days because I didn't have fun. I mean, it was magnificent. It had like fun moments, but I was like completely unprepared for how Lisa just dismissed me. Whitney, are you trying to do a pole dance on your snowboard? You know, it doesn't work that way, right? I am a rebel. It wins on the ground. rebel. She's on the ground. So it is like, did you feel shut down? And she's like, yeah, I felt sad. My feelings were hurt. I mean, it wasn't right. And then what needs like, well,

did you invite, did you invite Lisa to the ski trip? Why did you invite Lisa to the ski trip? So I had her like, well, we have such a history and she's part of this group. And I just want to be better and I just want to try and the producers maybe do it basically, the producers. Yeah, we're on a TV show, that's why. And she's like, well, at the party, I shared with Lisa what happened at my party

and she didn't like it. And then she called me and then she proceeded to tell me, don't come after me and don't come after my entities and then she threatened to use rumors that are not true about me against me. And she's like, what rumor is she goes, she accused me of being a swinger. At first, I was like, yes, I do have a swing set.

I love it, but then I realized what she really meant. She thought I was dancing and I said, I do not do swing dance. She is totally a swinger. I believe this 100 million thousand percent. And good for you, girl. Swing away. So Whitney tells us, well, Utah has a history of plural marriage. And there's like a huge swinger history here. And we have polygamy in our family. And I've heard of people like back in the day, they would have like a can phone system,

where you have can and then a string going house to house. And then if the law came, which you say, oh, whenever the marshal would come in town, they would send messages to hide the wives. But so much has changed since 2011. So she's like, I have taken a lot of shit. Okay, listen, I thought everything I was told as a child and I was still unhappy. You know, growing up, I was the as a child and I was still unhappy. You know, growing up I was the perfect

Mormon girl. I would, I would, I had a chance my senior year of being able to go to Maui with friends or to take a three-week church history tour and I chose the latter. That's what I did and then when I got home I met her on my boyfriend and had beer and we had wildbought sex all over the place. Sex everywhere. Sex on the ceiling. Yes somehow we used duct tape We got up there. We did it. We're rebels and I don't feel bad about it and that's when I started my journey What was the story you didn't go to Maui because you were a perfect Mormon girl, but you banged your boyfriend and drank beer all weekend So what is your story? But then she realized it was okay. And then guess what?

She didn't feel bad about it after. So that meant it was. And we returned a video to Black Master Video and didn't remind you. And I realized, wait a second, I'm going on a journey. I tore the tags off a mattress. And I don't regret one fucking thing about it. I will wait after you, Dave.

I'm basically taking examples from serial mom. I was the QPW's big adventure where they were being chased by the law from taking off the tags from pillows. So she said, wow, I realized, do I really believe this or am I just trying to fit in the cookie cutter life that was laid out before me? And so she's talking about how you know when you step out of line like she did you get cut off from the community Because she's Mormon. I'm like, yeah, but also a lot of people get cut out of their communities

If they're married they're both married and they start banging each other and cheating and they run away together I mean, that's not only Mormon, but okay, I'm with you so far. Yeah, I would agree. I agree that you risk Austro's size. Austro's age. Austro's age. Austro's age. You risk being a pariah.

Austro's age. You risk being a pariah when that happens. But if you're really cool and people really like you, they're probably going to like, they'll do some mental gymnastics to make it work. Sort of like the mental gymnastics that go into donating to Kila to a party that will be on TV and saying, I did a good deed.

So Whitney's like, uh, yeah, um, it's been really hard. My whole romantic life and Heather's like, yeah, but now you've been together 15 years. So who cares? Like, you know, people don't see this love story. Who cares? It's because they see me as a homemaker. Like, oh, yeah, well, you know, well, you go at the whole home record.

Yeah, and I say if you're not happy with someone, get the fuck out of there. The family that, that home record together stays together. Yeah. And, um, uh, yeah, I mean, I agree. They've been together 15 years by now. I wonder how much do people see her as a home record or how much of it is just her mom?

You know, like, to what degree? Like, I'm sure most people are like, it's, they've been together 15 years. It's like a legitimate relationship. Yeah, I came from a super conservative family in a very religious upbringing. And I get the whole like being looked down on and people expecting you to follow the rules and I also get the feeling of saying,

fuck you. Yeah. And there's nothing more freeing. So I'm digging her whole storyline. Well, I'm happy for her. I'm happy for her. I'm happy for her that she is for her own way and she should be have no. She should she should quit that thinking thinking about being a home record. She is a woman.

She is a woman following her heart in a sort of boring way and that's okay. That's okay. Yeah, so then they start talking about Lisa and Heather's like, yeah, well, uh, or Whitney, I keep getting these messed up in my notes. Like, can we get wider girl names? Like, you can't have white without Whitney. You can't have Whitney without white kind of thing. Like, that's how I write her name. White, white, white, white, white, white, white, white. Like, who am I talking about? All of them. So there will be, uh, the white women, of course. Um, there course. There will be activities at the ski day and no one has got a judge of the activities, which is a lie. Activities are meant as venues

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So now we go to Whitney's house, this is a very Whitney episode. And her kids are eating grilled cheese. And she's showing your kid to stay out of the phone, because it sucks after brain. Yeah, the grilled cheese started to win me over to Whitney. I was like, you know, if she keeps making grilled cheese like that, I think she's gonna worm her way into my heart. It was a good grilled cheese.

They were both on thick bread. Like the nice thick bread. It wasn't just like the wonder bread that my mom gave us crappy slices on it. It was like Texas toast with gooey stirring. I mean, it was actually, it was actually picture perfect. It was really just like perfect, perfect grilled cheese. So yeah, so she says that grandpa's coming over.

And so now Steve, her her dad who we saw briefly in the first episode. Adam Lambert stumbles in. Diane Warren. So, so basically he comes in with this really an iconic wig, really a great contribution to the Bravo wig universe. It's last week we said it was like Southern charm what knees hair, but really that's selling it short It's like here. Do you think it's like a you know what it's like it's like a

It's like a chocolate fountain of a wig, you know, it's just like it's just like it's goes up and then it comes down I Think it's just that mistress of the dark chick from the 80s. Oh, Vyra. Mistress of the dark, you know. Yeah. So he comes in and she tells us she was such a daddy girl, a daddy's girl. He was at every residle and then everything was great. They were best friends, but then the mom left the family.

The mom was like, fuck you and love the family. And then that depressed the dad so much that he turned to pain killers. And so that's what I felt bad. And then I felt bad for making fun of his wig. Because then I was like, but he's struggling with so much more. Let him have his wig. And so then I was like, I'm a terrible person. No, you don't need to be a terrible person. If you took off his wig and didn't let him have it, he can have his wig. Okay. You know, there are a lot, here's the thing, he's also trying, he's planning to open up a salon, which I totally, very happy for him.

His whole background is that he is a hair, he was a hair school owner, salon owner, he had a hair care line, and he lost it all. So I guess maybe I have higher expectations for what his week would be like, but you know what? He is on a journey and we just hope for the best for him.

Yeah, and he's like, you know, I know that it's hard being sobered at and he's like, oh, it's a blessing. I asked for rain and now I have to deal with the mud. And then he says that a few more times. And I'm like, wow, you're really trying to make the prayed for rain. And now I have to deal with the mud thing happen. And guess what? I've been thinking it ever since. I'm like, well, I prayed for the rain. I guess now I have to deal with the mud.

I know. I was like, when he said that, I was like, that is such a run. I think to throw into a recap as like a lady voice. I know. I was like, how have I not worked that homespun garbage into something yet? I would be like, I'm praying for the rain and now I have to deal with being in stores and watching the rain outside. I'm not going to add that rain. I'm not going to get in the mud. Rain, please rain, but like I'm going to stay inside.

Yeah. So they talk about addiction and how hard it is, and especially being Mormon because everyone judges you and then shuns you. And I felt bad. And Mormons believe that addiction is a consequence of your actions, but she realized going through all this with her dad,

but it's a disease. Yep. And it's sad. And I was like, I'm not watching for sadness. Move it along, Adam, why not? I'm Moving along, Adam. I'm in for the wig. I'm in for the wig, but I'm not like, I'm like, that they're sadness attached to the wig. I don't like my wigs to be. I mean, most, most of the...

They're always, I mean, you can tell you've never worked with a wig. Most of the wigs are... Most of the wigs are usually attached to sadness, but like, that's like really over at sadness. And we don't like to be too in touch with our emotions on that front So yeah, so then we go over to close ups of drinks, which I thought was really funny I was seeing about addiction. They're like isn't it just so sad? So it's Marineth and her husband Seth and they're at dinner and they sit down and he's, you know, he's like, that's real slime ball.

He's like a real shit, shit, turd of a human being. He looks like he just snorted the entire East Side powder off the ground. Like he looks fucked up. He's like, bleary eyed and then he just sits there and tries to start a fight with her on camera the entire day. Yeah, and he's the sort of person

that forces a bad recommendation on you. Like, you know what, you gotta go, you know what, you gotta go, you gotta go to Maronis. Maronis is good. I'm telling you, get the bread, get the bread and the butter special. It's great.

Sounds simple. I just want you to go to Maronis. You're like, dude, I've been to Maronis five times. I did like the worst places for where all the tourists go. And he's like, Maronis, you know, he's like that person, you know? He's like your dad's friend, you know, he's like that person, you know. He's like your dad's friend, not your personal dad's friend, Mr. Bernstein. But like, just like general life.

That's my dad's friend that we all knew he was cheating on his wife. We all knew he was embezzling from the company. We all knew he was fucked up on something banging strippers, you know, downtown. But we had to pretend he wasn't until he actually got caught. You know, he's that fucking guy. Yeah. So, he's like, well, you look beautiful tonight. Oh, and I appreciate you making eye contact with me this time. Oh, how am I normally looking at? Because you're phone. She's like, well, I barely touched my phone tonight as well. You're phone is playing the role of your husband.

Barely touched. Go to Maroonies. Yeah, it needs to be replaced every two years. You fucking jackass. It needs to be put on mute in public spaces. Yeah, and so she tells us their romantic story. She's like, no, we've been together forever. And I was young, I'm not out over heels.

And then I got pregnant. And I was like, I guess out of my head over heels and then I got pregnant and I was like, I guess I'm just gonna go with it. So here I am. The story of most of the real housewives, so he's like, all right, I got something to say. Okay, I have something I want to raise. It's kind of like the elephant in the room. Who have you told that we've separated? And then the waitress goes, pardon me, I have the impossible dreams with Lida Reposado and possible dreams. Do you guys have impossible dreams that anyone here say something about an impossible dream? Did you order the happiness or did you order the impossible dreams? I can't remember. He ordered the fucking

impossible dream just to keep making a point over and over. Yeah, I tried to talk to my wife. That's why I got the impossible dream. Ha ha ha! Got the impossible dream. Like my wife touching me and I, he he he. Leave him. He's a loser. He's a asshole.

He is terrible. He's like, so do all your friends know that were separated? And she's like, wow, it's not like I've been running around telling everyone about it. He's like, our relationship, a marriage. Do you think it was made to last? I'm like literally no.

What do you afford, truck? Is there a warranty? Are you a La Crusade? No, you're not lifetime warranty. So she's like life changes, you know. And he's like, well, yeah, but we got to put the work in. It's got to be reciprocal. It's like, are you insane, well, yeah, but we got to put the work in. It's got to be reciprocal. It's like, are you insane?

You ain't, I don't put a little work down. He's like, whoa, I mean, come on. I mean, look, it doesn't hurt to put in more reps occasionally, right? Or put it in a more time of the love elliptical, right? Emotional elliptical. Yeah. The treadmill emotionally. I'm like, you put me on that emotional treadmill too long. I'm gonna be wheezing

Like you don't want to see me on a treadmill too long, okay? Because then my legs are gonna get bad. I'm gonna fall on my face So there's a reason why you get at the treadmill sometimes. Yeah, so then it moves on to phones He's like all right. Well come on, you know, I'm transparent So come on. I mean, I'm totally changed. She's like I'm transparent. He's like no, but I'm transparent. So come on. I mean, I'm totally changed. She's like, I'm transparent. He's like, no, but I'm transparent. I'll head to my phone right now and you could read my phones. I don't want to read your phone. Like fucking weird porn hub tabs open. Like, what the fuck do I want to see that for? Sad. He's like, yeah, but I want to see your phone. Like, nah, you're not going to look at my phone. Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, yeah, well, you would never have me in your fun just because I think it's wrong.

Like you guys are like really comes out. Also, you can't, you're planning on handing over your phone. You've already deleted everything off your phone. Yes. You ask. This is a false litmus test of honesty being open and honest. And even if he hadn't deleted anything on it, it's like a weird challenge that is like does not exonerate anyone about being transparent and like a phone has nothing to do

with transparency. Transparency has to do with like how you are like what what your emotions are, what you say versus what you do and I'm not like whether you texted Nancy or not this morning. Well, it's interesting that she's probably having an affair or something to which I say, if you don't know how to get into your spouse's phone, what are you even doing together? Like that's not even a real relationship. Like who lives like this? I've never heard of a couple that doesn't know how to get into each other's phones. She's like, you know what?

I'm sick of being accused of having an affair. Now, excuse me. I have to go to the hardware store to get a can and some string. I'll be right back. So he's like impossible dream, right? Still trying to ride that one. Yeah, he's like, he's like, I want you to check my phone because it would show that you care. Okay. Okay, you fuck face. This is ridiculous. Sorry, she doesn't care.

You're really serious. Literally no one cares. Put away your cricket wire list that no one wants that. So then he's like, I hate being separated. He's like, but at least I'm not dating anyone else. And I sure as hell, I hope that you're not and cause they're sitting together at like an confessional.

If you hate being separated, why do you keep going back to Chicago, sir? Yeah. Is it something that then we start getting emeritus kind of story because she's like looks at him like she hates him, but then she kind of just looks down which she does a lot around her family. I'm starting to worry for Meredith and around floor tiles. Yeah, just everywhere. Yeah, there are little signs that are making me kind of worried for Meredith. So then we go over to you. And Jen, of course, has to come and do the most. She's like, where's the Bellman for skiing? Where is the Bellman? You better tell

me where the Bellman is for skiing. Yeah, she is being a little extra in trying to be fabulous. I like Jen, but like, I'm ready for her to settle in a little bit. Yeah, she is being a little extra in trying to be fabulous. I like Jen, but like I'm ready for it to settle in a little bit Yeah, I'm just gonna just relax just go relax like that powder snow relax on the slopes. So Yeah, I guess the best thing I love a skin and Mary's not there because she's waiting on a FedEx Which is actually one of the most real things that has ever happened on Bravo I'm like oh We're not all here because someone's waiting on FedEx like why has that not happened more?

I feel like that is like something that happens all of us all the time And then we find out why she's waiting for a FedEx because she's going skiing and you can't get to your wedgie once it goes up You're asked what your skiing so she had to get some wedgie list like Spanx or whatever. And the only brands that she could possibly wear is Chanel. So she ordered some like Chanel under pants or something. And that's a way for them. On FedEx. So she doesn't get sweaty ass. Yeah. Yeah. She says, for me, I need to wear brands that don't give you wedges. And for me, Sinello's one of them. And I'm willing to wait for it. I guess Sinello defies physics. That's great. Sinello is so fancy that it tells your ass to close.

It's like you better close. I'm not going in there. Close the cheeks. Close the cheeks. And somehow Lisa makes this about her. She's like, if I can inspire people to want to look good and ski out in the cold, then I've done my job. Good deeds, good deeds. She gets a little ding after. Who said anything about you inspiring people?

It's like, what? She's just gonna take credit for everything. If I'm what it takes for Malala to win a Nobel Prize, It's like cool. He's just gonna take credit for everything. If I'm what it takes for Malala to win a Nobel Prize, then my job here is done. It's like, she's Malala doesn't know who you are. Yeah, so we meet Dre, who is Whitney's business partner or Heather's business partner rather,

and she's just nice, so I don't care. But just so you know, she's just in case she murders someone. But she's not a doctor. There are something happens later. She's not Mateo. She was not on sopranos. Just straight. I, I feel like if you're, if that's your name, you have to pursue some sort of

doctorate and whatever field it is, you just have to, you can't just be Dre. You have to be a doctor. Like I'm making effort lazy. Dre, I know lazy. Non-advanced Dre. Yeah, for your degree Dre. What would you call it?

Be age, Dre. So they all start gathering outside. And Jen, of course, is like, oh, I've changed my outfit. Oh, ready. I'm here, girls. She's in like a snake skin. Yeah. But she's like on Instagram, they're going to think I'm on the black diamond. Because I look like a snake skin. Yeah, but she's like on Instagram. They're gonna think I'm on the black diamond because I look like a black time

But I'm like I think that literally no one is gonna see that after and think you're anywhere beyond the lodge You like you smell like black diamonds Not the list a lair scent no white diamonds Oh, that's why I got the diamonds That's why it brought me luck. There was the diamonds piece. And then she's behind curtains and also Venetian blinds. Like, this is what it brought me luck. But I literally, if I see someone with furry trim

on their ski outfit, I'm pretty sure they've fallen off like the J-bar like five different times going up the slope. And I say that from experience, as someone who has tried to do the bunny slope and has fallen, like I can't do the bunny slope, everyone I can't, big surprise. I'm just not big on balancing.

And I'm not mean skiing like for me, no, go fuck yourself, I'm not doing it. I'm not built to ski, okay? Slide me down the hill on a tube, but now that I've done, I can't see. Give me a sled, I've done the tube. I've also fallen off the tube too. You would think you can fall off the tube.

Oh yeah, I was supposed to fall off the tube. Yeah. I had a bump once and like, wow, I really went. I went flying through that air. Like have you ever, have you ever been in the air and then you see the sun and then you see the sled that's supposed to be under you, go over you? It's a fun experience.

All the part until the sled, but that was mostly drugs. So then, I was like, oh my God, this part, Utah has the best snow ever, so nobody else can even skate anywhere because Utah is like the best snow ever. Like, okay Heather, whatever. So it's literally coming from a machine. You see, then we see a shot of it being like, and then we see a snow missing, yeah.

Yeah. So then we see like funny antics, genus struggling on the bunny hill with Lisa and Mary. And then Mary starts doing snow angels, which I feel like she probably thought was actually a religious practice, you know. And Lisa is just telling the teacher. She's like, the thing telling the teacher she's like,

the thing about scaring is that like, I want to be the best at that. So just tell me how to be the best and beat all these batches. And I was like, actually, skiing is just supposed to be fun. She's winning is fun. All right, teach me how to wild.

You're welcome for the good deed that you are getting from me about learning about winning. You're welcome for the good deed that you are getting from me about learning about winning. Yeah, you're welcome. If I can look so good, then I inspired you to not teach me shot and proud that I don't know. So then up on like top of the mountain, Heather and Whitney at least, uh, uh, oh, sorry, Heather and Whitney are talking about Lisa and Whitney is like, well, you know, the thing is with Lisa is that we've just had some like big misunderstandings and I don't know,

like we've known each other for a few years and we just struggle to communicate. And we see the clip of why she feels like this or one of the times she feels like this because Lisa just looks at her and she goes, we need to help wet that with her style. And she's like, what's wrong with my style? She's at the little Utah.

I'm like, can you believe it? I also love her saying it's a little Utah. I'm like, you're the one who moved here. So yeah. Yeah. So it's a little Utah. I'm like, you're the one who moved here. So yeah. Yeah. So it's a little Utah. So Whitney's like, we're always offended each other. And I'm talking about this in front of Meredith because Meredith is close with her. So maybe she can give me advice and

tell me how to deal with such a vile, horrible human being. Right. So she's like, yeah, I mean, she has like all these subtle threats. Like, if I, if you talk about this and all tell people about you, and Meredith goes, what is she gonna say about you? Or me, what did you say to that? She goes, I said, I don't care about those rumors or what people said. And neither does my best friends husband.

Do you want me to put them on the can? Because I will. Hold on, let me see if I've got his contact. If he's in my contact, hold on. I've got to look on the other side of the can to see if I've got his contact if he's in my contacts hold on I've got to look on the other side The can to see if I wrote on it Is this name pergresso So So when is yeah, so, so Meredith is like, well, maybe what happened is that maybe she was

trying to be a big sister and you know, she tried, you know, maybe what she thought was a big sister role, you thought was kind of sending and she sees it as caring and maybe that's what happened. Just married it because telling someone, listen, you look a little too Utah and if you say anything mean, ever about me, I'm telling the entire world you're a fucking swinger. That's what you call caring. That's what you call, I care about you and I want you to know what everyone's saying about.

So then the house was getting ready. So they're getting ready to go to dinner now. I guess they're staying at this place or something. And Heather's like, have you ever wondered how long it takes women to recover and get ready for dinner? Three and a half hours. I'm like that sounds that that right in general You were skiing and so you were probably tired and so you came back at probably four o'clock and then you went to dinner at like 730 so that's like actually really pan that's like that that tracks for I think really everyone. Yeah, so Lisa's like

They all gather for dinner and that's like that that tracks for I think really everyone. Yeah. So Lisa's like, they all gather for dinner and Lisa's like, ah, love, da. You know, I love watching you guys do the bigger hill, but like I caught that heart before sundance. I'm like, oh, gosh, shut up with your sun dance. All right. Till the Swinton. Yeah. Okay. And I have to mention this because someone posted this on our Facebook and I was dying. So Katie from Vanderpump rules goes on Instagram live and she's like, okay, and I have to mention this because someone posted this on our Facebook and I was dying so Katie from Vanderpromp rules Goes on Instagram live and she's like um, I'm from Park City, Utah and I don't know who this Lisa woman so she owes but No one knows her so Katie the park the Sundance Film Festival,

doyen. What? If you were wondering what kind of a douchebag you were bragging that you know everybody in Sundance, you're competing now with fucking lame ass ranch loving Katie from Vanderbump Rules. Congrats, Lisa. Is this the future of Vanderbump Rules

that it goes up to Sundance? It's like Sorry only the most beautiful people are waiters at Sundance. So I work at a movie theater. I Know Robert and you're like no those things do not I've been to a park in a city and as far as I can tell none of the squirrels or the pigeons know who Lisa is so I took a tap class in the daytime so don't tell me about sun daps stupid so stupid that's okay it's Friday so Lisa yeah, yeah, so Lisa's like, I want to get her. I was calling Katie stupid. How dare you turn it back on me! Right!

That was my version of caring and you saw it as countless ending. So, yeah, so Lisa doesn't want to get her before Sunday. She's like, I care more about money than how I get the hell down this hill. I'm like, well, if you don't get down that hill, you're not going to get your money. Just so as we're minduring. Yeah. So then we also meet Connie, who's Whitney's friend. then how I get the hell down this hill. I'm like, well, if you don't get down that hill, you're not gonna get your money just so as we're reminded. Yeah. So then we also meet Connie, whose Whitney's friend,

she's just like out of nowhere. There's just like this tall, like tall version. Tall version. The last week, if it's a lady we're cracking up at last week. I thought that was a different girl. She have like the sort blonde, the shortest blonde bob kind of hair and she's like, Oh, everything's great.

And that's the same. No now I thought the girl left. Was that the same Connie? I think it's the same girl. Cause he's like, gosh, the best part for me was looking at all your outfits. I thought I need to out my game. And then she said nothing else to rush the episode. I don't think.

Who was that other version of Whitney? I feel like what's funny about this show is that there's clearly several women in the mix who were in the running to be cast members, but the producers still hadn't chosen yet. So that's why you had that squinty woman last week who was like, I'm gonna defend Jen, yeah. But she's the one you told her that you said,

hospital smell. Mm. So anyway, so Whitney is, she announces that she's going to be going to church with Mary, and then all the women are like, love that, love that, because they all know that Mary's crazy. You like have fun. And Heather's like, I mean, any supports good, you know, church, that would be great. Any kind of any where you go is really good Yeah, because because because Whitney says that her dad is thinking about going back to the Mormon church and Heather's like Any church is great

Church get a church Yeah, when Churchill Winston Churchill Winston Churchill's a great just give him a Winston Churchill book that would be a great choice for him He's like don't bring it back. Don't bring it back So it means like yeah, well, I'm really excited about it because my dad battles with addiction and I've been a source of finance And I've been a source of finance, grilled cheeses, and everything. And she's like, you know, I mean, I just need him to feel something.

And Lisa's like, um, can I just say something about charge? LDS has made my life so much better. That's why I love it. I love it. I'm like, yeah, because you're working that fucking church, you're working your alcohol deals through that church Give me a break. Does this seem like a super devout woman who's like touched by Jesus? I'm sorry, but you make your I am not sure but I again, I like that she made it about her. Can I tell you something?

I want to give you guys a good deed and the good deed for today is this my life is better Because of LDS. You welcome everyone. Now you know the truth. I've never sold more tequila in my life than I did when I found the Mormon church. So, so Heather's, I don't know, so Heather says something. I said, you definitely shouldn't love him. I don't know. I don't know, so Heather says something. I said, you definitely shouldn't love him. I don't know, I don't remember what that was. Heather tries to make it about her fight with Lisa, right? She wants to have a fight with Lisa now.

So she goes, well, if LDS made your life better, then you shouldn't judge him. And she's like, what is that even mine? I didn't judge him. That's not even mine. You sound like Camille on a William Paris. What's his that even mine? So, Lisa's, Lisa's like, that's the cultural side of the church, not the gospel.

Okay, good deeds. And Whitney's like, okay, well then I'm going to take it to the next level. Why do we judge each other? It's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, You were Mary's really on top of it. I'm glad she brought her a giant fur hat to dinner So she goes Lisa's like all right. I think it's better if we just come out and say it just Say it all right, so Whitney's like I feel judged on you Lisa. I don't judge you And Mary's like just listen to her She's like well, I feel like we've had our misunderstandings and our Disagreements and I'm trying to make I'm trying to find out how you feel like I'm being judged a stupid person, stupid face,

stupid, easily judged person and I'm not judging you. Well, when we had a conversation after the party, I felt threatened. She's like, oh, if you felt threatened, that's because you felt threatened, not because I threatened you. I don't threaten people. Now, you better be quiet and just stop talking about how much I threatened you before I go tell everyone that you have slept with three cans on that string And Meredith is like when I said that she she's discuss her issues with Lisa I didn't think it was gonna be out of a dinner table in front of people I'm discussing things at dinner in front of me, Paul is not a good idea. It's a dinner in front of people.

I'm gonna talk about impossible dreams. She, that's like the classic thing. The classic housewives thing, in one scene, you should really talk to her about it. I didn't mean for this to happen. Yeah, yeah. So then, it's a sad fact. So now Lisa.

So now Lisa goes, the only reason we had that conversation is because you confronted me about how I gifed you and what happened with that gifed. And I'm saying gifed because it was a gift. It was a good deed. I gifed at her free booze that actually costs her more than if she had bought it herself because the bartenders trashed her house. That was a gift, a gift of perspective. Welcome.

Well, the gift. Let's just put the gift aside because it was the conversation after that that you said, don't go there or all bring up these rumors. It's like, I did not say that and I did not allow to that. Yeah. Well, I am purposely not using the word swinger because if I do, the conversation turns into whether or not I'm a swinger and I wanted to be more about what Lisa said and the judgment behind it. Oh, that's just showing the Bachelorette God. Like, I tell you something, then I'm the bad one for hearing it. Like, I don't judge you. I don't care enough to judge you. It's like, well, that's just... That's judging. The only thing I judge are films at the Sundance Film

Festival. All right, jury award. The least, the least a bar law award is what it should really be called. Judging jury. That's rude. I mean, God, it's hard. And Heather's like, yeah, I mean, it's like really hard. Like you say you come out of love and kindness. And certainly we haven't felt any of that. It's like, coming from God, I felt nothing. Love what kind of. My intent is always good, as you could tell,

by the tone of my voice, I speak in Caps Lock, which we all know is the universal typeface for good intentions and peace and recording. She's like, I have no problem with how you persuade me. And Meredith, it's like you're comfortable or your Heather's like you're comfortable with me perceiving you as being dismissiveugot and also a little bit crazy because you said you didn't even know me like of course you know me Mara's like can we just start over it smells like hospital in here No, man, that's too far for reset So she's like top of the scene. It smells like hospital Listen if you take me being busy as a dismissive, I'm sorry, because I am very busy with Vita the killer.

Very best I inspiring Pat Mal. And she's like, but how can you say like, all I know of Heather is that she was a good time girl that flashed her boobs. Like, how is that out of love and kindness? And then we see a clip of that and she's like um look I mean it was one time at the dorm and just one time at the dorm I couldn't have been expelled from university for being a good town girl because I know that's what made that bana you can't graduate from b.w.u and have flashed. The story is flattery but false. God. And she's like, you don't know me, but you don't know me, but you remember that I flash someone, it's just, oh, you're coming at me. Come on, that. Who's not? Who's not? Who's not? Come on.

By the way, I think that's fair that like if you if you have a vague recollection of someone that maybe the one thing you do remember about them is that they flashed you. Because I think that's like, that's a pretty significant thing. That I generally remember most people I've seen who flashed, you know? Yeah, I just think it's funny that Heather's whole thing is like, I'm going to pioneer a new, I'm going to pioneer a new red from my children to hoe, just like my grandparents or whatever by getting a divorce and not being a traditional Mormon. And she's like a mortified that someone called her a good time girl in college. Oh my God. So Heather's getting like, she's getting up,

like so upset that all her makeup disappears. And she's like, you can't sit there and say you come from love and kindness. At least it's like, I have not done anything mean to you. And until you figure out what it is that I trigger in you, we can't have a good solid conversation going forward. Good intentions. That was a gift from me to you.

Good time girl gift receiver. So you use, and by the way, whatever thumbs up to you, then thumbs up, right? It's a thumbs up. Isn't that what we're doing now? Love and kindness. It's a thumbs up. Love and kindness.

And love and kindness. And everyone's laughing, not really getting what she's doing. And she's like thumbs up. You know what, everyone knows that's a fuck you. Okay, it's a fuck you. And that's what you sent to me right. And she's like, right before Meredith's birthday party, I got a text from Lisa.

And so it was kind of like a check-in. Like, are you gonna be at this party? I mean, I'm not sure why she even sent that to me because she doesn't even know me according to her. And then we see the text. And it's like that. It's like, Hey, are you going to this party? I sure am. And then she gives her a thumbs up. It feels like, yeah, Lisa goes, can't wait to see you and Heather gives, gives like a thumbs up. Or to know what it was, it was the rudest thing I've ever seen since that vulga show on television with those two men cursing at each other. Siskel and Ebert? Yes. Disgusting. And she's like, everyone knows that's a fuck yeah. And she's like, oh my god, no it's not. Fuck you is two thumbs up. Everybody knows that.

Okay, it's a universal text code. And Mary's like, I didn't know that. I the least he goes, don't diminish the thumbs up text. Don't diminish it. Say what the thumbs up text was. I'm sitting here apologizing for a thumbs up text. Are you fucking kidding me right now? And then it cuts to the producer the producer's like so did you mean fuck you when you

sent that thumbs up tax it's just absolutely absolutely of course of course. So then Jen's like listen listen Lisa Heather would not care this much if she didn't actually care about you. And she's like, fine, fine. I'm sorry that I made you feel bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, okay. Meredith is like, well, I know Lisa well enough to know that she didn't intentionally mean to make you feel bad. She just has a terrible personality and does it naturally, but

she's actually sort of a nice person somewhere down there. I don't know. I'm not allowed to say anything worse, otherwise she's gonna release secret photos of me, okay? So when he's like, okay, we can agree to move forward then she's, yeah, it's a clean fight. Dan. Dan. Dan. I'm done. Yeah, I'm just, listen, I said I'm sorry and I mean it, okay? It's like oh, okay that felt really Deeply since if you feel bad, I'm genuinely sorry, okay movie on so funny this so I loved it I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so it. So we will be back tomorrow with our Southern Charm recap so come back to find that and go find your map tutor over at mymathfidias.com if you need that for your kids and we'll talk to you tomorrow everybody thanks so much for being here. Bye.

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