Watch What Crappens - RHOSLC: Unusual Shah-spects

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

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The very first thing that we saw was, we saw a shot of the trailers that they're all sort of doing their hair make up in here in LA. And I was able to do this by the landscape and the nearby parking garage that this reunion was filmed mere blocks from where I live. And I have like this incredible amount. It's not FOMO, but it's like, man, if I had just known that the real house was a Salt Lake City, the entire house,

where I had assembled just a few blocks away, I totally would have like lingered out there for hours. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I don't know if you guys were here and just try to like stock them and take pictures and all that. I feel like, oh, oh, oh, oh, I don't know. You guys were here and just try to like stock them and take pictures and all that. I feel like I failed everyone. Well, it looks like they were at Qijote studios, which is interesting because that's man of Lamacha, the man always tilting at windmills, which is very gen in this. Gen is having a very delusional moment, so knowing that they're filming it, gejote is, I don't know, it's touching, you know?

I love when a housewife really commits to delusion and boy did she. She's absolutely full of crap because this is the episode where we get to question, well Andy, as we, as us, gets to question Jen on her lies. Now he doesn't go too deep, but she still lies a lot. And that's fine. Yeah. He doesn't really have to go too deep because, you know, she's, I think there's sort of like this awareness that she's just about to get it so hard from,

from like her federal trial, like Annie just has some perfunctory questions to get some sound by it. It's not like with Erica Erica Jane where there's like a lot of confusing Slipperyness and I also to be fair Gencha has done a really good job of having a pretty simple unified front during this entire thing like it wasn't me It wasn't me. I'm shakie. It wasn't me as opposed to Erica who's like well There was a snowstorm at the time drove down the hill and crash and it was discovered by a group of monkeys You took him down to the monkey kingdom. So like everything that Eric has said, there were so many holes you had to ask so many

questions. Well, they also did have somebody to ask questions, you know, if they had Sutton, whereas this one is just like me, okay. Everyone's just like, okay, I'm going with it. And Heather's got some kind of illness. I'm not illness, but something deep inside of her is broken that she stams up for this lady and goes this hard for this lady. Like she thinks she's in Susan Sarandon

in that movie where Susan Sarandon's like a nun on death row, you know? Where she's just like, you know what? I'll like the guy from I am Sam anyway, even though he's a murderer, because I'm a nun. And that's what nuns do, you know what? I'll like the guy from I am Sam anyway, even though he's a murderer, because I'm a nun. And that's what nuns do, you know, and you're like, oh shit, I've seen him serendip. He's damn murderer.

What more does he have to do? She's just in it for that moment when she could touch the glass. I actually, when my dearly depart grandma Sally, in the later years of her life, she was in assisted living. Basically, it was like assisted living plus. And I remember visiting her and at the elevator bank, that little TV screen, they were like,

tonight's movie night, and tonight's movie, Dead Man Walking. I was like, you know, I think that maybe we should reconsider the programming in this home right now. I don't know if we want, like, let's not do Deadman walking at the at the senior citizen home. Okay. Yeah. Don't do Deadman walking. Don't do it's a wonderful life. Maybe cocoon. I don't know. But maybe cocoon just stop it in the middle. Maybe just the nature special. Maybe just the nature special.

That was not included. So we open this. Where we left off with Andy calling break and you know, everybody getting up and Lisa trying to do her off camera thing. Which she has been very guilty of doing ever since the show started, you know, so she's like, very guilty of doing ever since the show started, you know, so she's like, mad at, mad at, can we talk or no, mad at, can we, can we talk or no? Like, now Lisa, I don't think we can talk. Well, I am a man of a recording session, Lisa.

Yeah, but can I say something to you real quick? Can I say something real quick? Lisa, I'm not gonna do this. All off camera, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just wanted to come over here and say, I am beyond sorry. Okay, beyond like the new option, throw-upper at Burger King, I love that.

I'm so sorry. Like beyond sorry is like regular sorry, but that best. Sorry. Yeah, my sorry has actually much less cholesterol because it's bomb-busts. Okay. Yeah. No one understands what it's formed of or why they should be ingesting it, but there

it is. It's sorry. I'm here to joy. Oh, that's impossible. Oh, that's good too. We like impossible too. Sound free, no. Oh, I love that.

Meredith is just trying to get something off the craft services tape. I love that chipotle. I am beyond sorry. I did not mean to hurt you or Seth or Reed or Chloe or Brooks or that dog that you let stand on tables. Or whatever birds you killed to wear this reunion today. But you know what, someone told me that you're making fun of my renovation and stuff and I was like, upside. She's like, what would I say about your

renovation stupid? I'm just like, I have like an ugly house. So that's why I called you a whore. The fuck off in New York City. I said, your husband can't keep a job. I wasn't talking about your house.

I was saying that I recently banished House MD and found it quite interesting, but maybe not in a good way. Oh! Oh, I'm so sorry. Well, I have an ugly house. Fine. I said you have an ugly house.

Fine. You should just rip my car. I'm sure. She does her full on head shake, you know, head tilting, shaking, nodding, whatever the hell and leaves. And it's just Jenny Lisa's only ally left. And Jenny's just texting completely ignoring Lisa. Yeah, not realizing her minutes are numbered on this show.

So meanwhile backstage, the husbands are all toasting. Like, yeah, I love you guys. Yeah, stupid women. And then Meredith is on the phone with Seth. And she's like, well, I wish you weren't here. I'm perched, and I'm so sand here. Now, here, it's intense, you know? And he goes, yeah, well, just remember that sometimes

second chance is you're giving another person a bullet because they missed the first time I'm like excuse me sir. Aren't you the beneficiary of a second chance? It was not all of season one Also, what are you in the mob like who talks like that? Second chances that's a bullet, baby What who's dying? Yeah, but you know, he's very into his self-help guru thing as the person who can totally keep a job. He was now a self-help guru on Instagram. That's right. And then I guess, oh, sorry, Ben. No, I was just going to say, I guess Celine Dion

is, is just a liar. Doesn't she have a song about second chances, Ronnie? What do you say about second chances? Is that a lyric? Or did I just make that up? Did I just, I don't know. I put Celine Dion, so I don't know, but hopefully at some point you can say it's all coming back to me now To quote Austin Crowell you look like god damn Celine Dion I feel proud actually that like my gay points aren't that high because I thought You know, I should be able to get that, but I don't know. Somehow, I look at, but you're really put enough every day, a little hero in our Bravo podcast. Who the fuck is Lee and Dion anyway?

Am I right guys? It's all about post mo' road. So the husband's come on stage and John is you know they're all sitting behind and John Says behind Lisa like a fucking ghost. I mean he really does. It looks like Lisa is in a movie about to pray To John, you know, he's sitting behind you're like And she's like John can you see okay? And she's like, John, can you see? Okay. Well, yeah, he could see you Lisa.

He's right behind you on a black form. He could see you. But I mean, I did look it up. This lean Dion song is taking chances, not second chances, which is a totally different thing. So I retract that entire line of banter. I do hope that there is still a bullet in the head in that song. Taking chances, bullet to the head.

From me! So Andy's like, we're back. You know what they say? Behind every strong woman is a man who just wants the women to get along. So no one questions their MLM schemes. Okay. Say hi.

Good house,ines. Okay. Say hi. Hi, says nice. Hi. Wow. Seth, I'm sorry you're not here, but I, because I know that COVID is keeping us apart. So I guess Seth was exposed or has it or something like that, but so he's not, that's the reason why he's on the TV screen. He's pulling a good old fashioned brandy from Dallas. Brandy, yeah. Brandy, right?

Yeah. Doesn't want to get confronted too much. So pulls it, pulls a COVID. So he's like, well, I'm in Mississippi. Anti. I just want you to remember and everyone out there. Hope you're remembering this. Hug someone once. Shame on me. Hug someone twice. Shoot them with the bullet in their head. Okay. You can find myself help on Instagram John we all know it was your big plan to mess up Angie's catering what you do it I'm just that kind of person. Ha ha ha ha ha I'm just here to say that Lisa Barlow is an amazing person, Andy. And, and continue.

And we rehearsed this line, John. Line. She's also beautiful. And would never say that about her friends. This is harder than I thought it would be. And I'll do it from here. Never mind. Good job, beautiful. Good job.

Good job, you did a good job. Good job, good job. So Sheree, Sheree was genusing that bowl horn in the bathroom? He's like, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. And Andy's like, hey, Dele, it's been an interesting ride. Has it been a work? And he's like, well, there's been no applications for a sister watch.

You said it, not me. You opened the door for it, so we're going to grill you on this, enjoy. Yeah, he's like, wow, you're joking about it. That's good. That's a healthy place. And so we got to Justin and, you know, what about Whitney reenacting having sex? I mean, what was that? And he's like, well, you know, what about Whitney reenacting having sex?

I mean, what was that and he's like, well, you know that everything she does is inaccurate description wait What was this I got confused my He said like so Justin when I'm with me was was reenacting sexy interview was that accurate? He goes would you say that's an accurate description and he goes Everything what he does is an accurate description. Wow, so these two. So I did write it down right now. It was just completely perfect.

It was just, your brain was just trying to actively block it out while you were writing it. So it's understandable. There you go. Everything Whitney does is an accurate description, guys. You heard it your first. So how's your flacking? How's your flackin guys?

Still twice a week. Yeah, you like it. You like fucking everybody like you drop your boobs? I love fucking we'll talk about it Yeah, I love also the way that Andy does like a hairpin term. He's like, yeah, so you guys have been fucking a lot You guys are really fucking yeah, it's like hey Did she use up all your life savings on your rebrand? It's like, whoa, okay, we're gonna go there now. Well, it was more than just the rebrand I would like to say. I bought my business partner out.

So that was like, what? $500,000 or how much was that? And he's like, listen and it was just a savings account That was liquid and it was to buy a cabin. So yeah, she used a lot of that But hey Whitney is the best investment I've ever made And I I know I have to say it was an honor of a lifetime to be able to work with my brother Whitney we just got in you're not working with your brother. You were working with the brother.

P-touch label maker, totally different thing. Oh, sorry. Oh, good. And just, you know, Tom Gerardi, you know, Maggie Restonhal is one of the, he's not bad, but when he, when he rests, when he rests in hell, you know, but maybe future rest in hell. Tom Gerardi, when he said, erica was expensive, when he rests when he rest in hell, you know, but make a future rest in hell. Tom Chararty, when he said, erica was expensive. When he was joking, like, yeah, Eric's expensive.

Everyone's like, oh my God, I can't believe he said erica was so expensive. So I'm interested to see how pissed off people are at Justin for saying, yeah, Whitney, the best rate of return better than anything I could get out there. Yep. I'm not. So I don't have any. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just curious to see how many people will be.

We'll talk about that on green room. So then, um, uh, so Whitney's business is doing great. It's a 540% from last year, even though it's still not, uh, it was at skincare, right? And, um, and Heather says that they actually carry all the products at Beauty Lab and they sell out immediately, which is cool. And then, Judy from Judy Town asked, Whitney, do you feel like that guilty,

that Justin is 20 years older and you're squandering his retirement and now he has to work until the day he dies, which will be pretty soon because he's an old fart squandering money from old people. What are you? Gen to shot you soon Legedly check this in I am his retirement plan and like I said, I'm profiting and I'm putting money back in 540% from up here from last year, even though last year there was no wild rose. I'm confusing myself, Andy.

He's like, wow, Zephan, talk about Wendy's boobs. Yeah. Yeah, you covered on Whitney's cleavage quite a bit this season. Whitney, was that awkward for you? Because it was really awkward for all of America. And she's like, she says, like, she goes, Well, the first couple of times it was funny, and then I was like, Oh, this is becoming a thing.

So I think I made my point by showing up with a titty cake. Like, was that making a point or was that sort of encouraging more? I made my point when I made him a cake out of my titties so he could actually motorboat me in public in front of all of Meredith's friends. And then you see in the clip of her saying, I thought I would get you this cake so you never have to talk about it again. And then him showing that he's totally learned something starts like licking the nipples of the cake. Yeah. The message is clearly received clearly. He's so gross. So Justin, anything you want to say to Sam and Justin's like, um, no, no, I mean, I

know where it comes from. It's not like Serious sexual or a it's like fun sexual harassment Andy. I mean what happened to fun in sexual harassment Andy Yeah, and so then and is like Seth we've really come to a very intense conversation between your wife and Lisa and do a very intense conversation between your wife and Lisa. And we just saw a clip of Lisa saying that Meredith had sex with half of New York and questioning why you own house and that you're a fake family. I'm going to do the whole thing again. I'm going to do it as many times as possible. Your pieces of shit and you move every five minutes.

Did I miss any other bullet points? Because I really want to make sure they hear it as much as possible. And Seth does the finger touching thing where he's like really deeply thinking and his giant face on the tilted TV. He's like, you know, everything this season, Andy. And I'm a big sports guy, huge big sports.

And nobody played through the pain. More than Meredith Marx did this year. Now can I please get a touchdown on Whitney's end zone? Yes, got another one in there. Yeah. La la la la la. Yeah, he tries to have a total politician moment where he just talks about how Meredith was so great

and was like really was dealt with a lot. But he's not answering the question. And in fact, he actually tries to almost exonerate his create his like discussing behavior by saying, you know, I try to do what I, all I try to do was make an asset of myself to distract from the heaviness. Like, oh, oh, that's why I said, okay, I mistook that. I'm, my bad, my bad.

Yeah, I came from a place of class, you know. A Meredith is like, ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no a place of class, you know, a Meredith is like Doing her cry thing and Andy's like in the reaction that Meredith had sex with half of New York So it's like did she mention the other part where I had sex with the other half of New York and Meredith is like So then Seth gets serious as well as this heartening and friendships go through lots of chapters and I'm hopeful because I know John at least is super well that everyone can do what we got to do Lisa super well that everyone can do what we got to do to heal and part of my healing process is that I'm gonna have to stick my face into Whitney's chest unfortunately. That's just what I have to do. And Johan had it to feel for you, think you're what?

Say that stuff. And Johan said, Lisa Bartlow's an amazing person, Andy. She's beautiful and smart. She supports her friends. She's Andy. She's beautiful and smart. She supports her friends. She's great. She's beautiful Andy. Great. So then Lisa mouths to Meredith.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So sorry. Meredith gives her a look. Look, hashtag brutalized. So then Andy Pivots to Dewey and he says, I'm like, I'm a hashtag worldwide. So then Andy Pivots to Dewey and he says, he's basically saying how they experienced the real trauma of having a stillborn daughter and does Dewey think that that's like having another child will make up for it and Dewey is like, well, that's a very valid question

and he's talking about like, you, that's a very valid question. And he's talking about like family planning and everything and talking about like how no parents should bury their children. And then he goes, he says that like, well, you guys saw a little window of how awesome our children are. So wouldn't it the world be nicer if we had more of that, more of that kindness, more of that beauty?

Which was like, one of those like, it was like a nice like me moment that would be like, I can imagine someone sharing something like that on Facebook, but in reality, it's like, this was traumatic and extremely difficult for your wife, so like, I'm sure you could die. It's a good guy.

Like that's an awfully simplistic view, by the way, of how this works. And you're one of those people who always says, good question, good question, good question to everything you say, like yeah, it's real difficult and doy. Okay, it was real difficult to come up with this one. Your wife could die if she ever gets pregnant again. Don't you feel like a fucking asshole for threatening

to get a sister wife if she won't do it? Like, good question. Good question. Also, you're playing Russian roulette, okay? You have two wonderful children, I don't remember if there were more than two wonderful children. At least two wonderful children,

they have three wonderful children, okay? Don't risk it with a fourth. You don't know that next one could be a monster, okay? Quit while you're ahead. This guy's a total fucking asshole, I don't care. So he's trying to do the smiley thing, and he's like, I'm a business person, and we're all business people here, right?

And in business, we put emotions aside, and we want results. And I was like, listen, baby, I just want results. Which is really the most heartfelt thing you could say to your wife. I just want results. I'm just looking at this like a business. It's a numbers game. It's a numbers game, Jenny. which is really the most heartfelt thing you could say to your wife. I just want to resolve. I'm just looking at this like a business. It's a numbers game.

It's a numbers game, Jenny. Until you open a family bowling alley, I don't wanna hear how you're like having your own employees due to business. Okay. Shout out to Skyland's bowling alley. This is not Mad Max. Okay, we don't have to have like a, you know,

like a baby factory going on. Okay, like you have your three wonderful kids. Let's call it a day, okay? But the good news actually is that Dewey is getting therapy. We came down really hard on him because he was like, no, I'm ever getting therapy, which we felt was an antiquated view, especially from someone in the medical community,

but he is in therapy, which I did at least appreciate that. Um, yeah, he makes me crazy. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable. I love my kid, but is a new parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest and insightful take on parenting.

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personal health issues and I was being examined for those issues while I got the call about Jen, the very polite call from Homeland Security that calls people and lets them know they're coming. I'm like, what is Homeland security? Like the sweetest neighbor in the world. Like, got some cookies for ya. Just wanted you to know I'm gonna stop by. Hope you're home. If not, I can be your mom and the man. Hey, we brought you a hot dish.

It comes with some handcuffs. Thought we'd just swing on by to deliver it to ya. So, he basically, he went home. He's saying he was getting, he was having, you know, he went home. He was saying he was having an examination. He went home and then he found the officers there with the guns and the guns pointing at his kid and everything. So Jenna saying that the call that she received was actually a real call from Sharif's assistant about this internal bleeding situation.

But it's, we'll just keep going. So she, he's like, yeah, you know, after I got the call from Homeland Security, I was, you know, shocked. And then I went home to find officers with guns some pointed at my baby. So Andy's like, so the call you got, Jen, that was real?

And she's like, yes. And then we get the clip of her saying, she has bad news. Sharif is in the hospital, which is weird that it was a huge emergency that she had to call about if he was just getting examined for something that he's had. This is all very fishy. And she's like, you know, Sharif, never

wants to go to the doctor. And I keep saying, you need to go. You need to go you need to go And this was the fourth or fifth checkup. Okay, so this was a fourth or fifth checkup So you freaked out and left a group trip Well, and then well that Andy was like so you did have internal bleeding and he's like well I'll tell you this much. I I have a history of rectal bleeding and just got to Heather being like

She was like that was way more confessional than my Bolero moment. Wow. I've only been allowing myself to say rectal for five years So a lot for a lot. There's a lot of Andy So it's like and this at this particular time the doctor thought it was important and so I wanted to let Jen know and I guess the internal bleeding was gastrointestinal bleeding so yes I was internally bleeding. Bullshit, bull, bullshit. That's the side of bullshit. Oh, it makes sense. It makes sense. Yeah, it feels a little weird because if he had like enough hemorrhaging that Jen needed to be called it feels a little weird because if he had like enough hemorrhaging that Jen needed to be called it feels weird that then he'd be able to then go to Jen even even if Homeland Security is calling it feels like a weird I

Don't know I I feel like you I don't know It's weird. So Jen is laughing and she's like well., I mean guys, if I got tipped off, I would have waited around. Okay. I wouldn't have just left. Oh no, she says I wouldn't have just waited around. I would have left. You did, you did leave.

You immediately call how to ride, come and pick you up and jet the fuck out of there. Why are you making it sound like you were just sitting there waiting? Yeah. Yeah. She couldn't just leave. She had to get a ride, unless she's gonna take Uber, but I don't know, she has a weird history with Uber apparently.

So Andy is like, so when you gotta call, and he's trying to trip up their story, you can see he's trying to be low key, he's trying to do it, because he comes like, walk me through it again. So when you gotta call from a Homeland Security at the hospital, you had something up your butt at that time, and that's when you got a call from Homeland Security at the hospital, you had something up your butt at that time and that's when you called Jen. Okay, is that what

called the rectal bleeding here in your wife's voice? He's like, no, no, no, I never talked to her. He's like, oh, okay. So then you, you had rectal issues and then you went home and then the cops came. He's like, no, it all happened afterwards. He's like, yeah, you called Jen and you told her Homeland Security's coming. He's like, no, I never talked to her. So did your assistant call and say, they're at the hospital and Homeland Security is coming.

He's like, no, no, he just told her what I was going through. So then Homeland Security called after that. He's like, he's like, uh, he's like Correct. That was the order. It's like oh my god I don't you don't even have to study body language when someone's arm comes out like that Correct That is the order you guys So uh and he asked how it felt to watch all the women's response to Jen's arrest and he's like, well, it was you know incredibly painful on it

Really hurt and Jen's like I couldn't even watch it coach watched it for me. I couldn't even watch I couldn't even watch Jen watch every single moment because she had like note the entire rest of the episodes and then you said this And then you said this and then you said this so I was like you watch Repeatedly Jen shot and then coach is like yes, that's true. She did not watch it, which, you know, he's just coming here full online right along with her. So Andy is saying, you know, I'm sure you expected your friends to talk. I mean, you look pretty big deal.

But not to that extent, not to that extent, Andy. I did not. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Andy. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm not really my Andy. Yeah. Have you two had crises of infidelity in your marriage? And then it's just like. Mm. No, nope, nope.

And Ed Shrieve just, he doesn't even say any. He just shakes his head. He doesn't even shake his head, but he just goes, mm-hmm. Okay, this is a tweet from someone whose name I'm not even going to make up because I love it so much. Ugly adjacent on Twitter says why does coach Sean not get the same energy as Eric and Jane? Okay, I mean, wasn't he confused about where all the design are clothing and purses came from? Did you quit first? Okay, ugly adjacent. Let me start this answer.

Was he confused about where all the designer clothing came from and purses? It's called Canal Street. It's a New York City. You should check it out. Great shopping. Great times. You might have to run a couple of times

or hide behind a couple of counters, but worth it. Okay. Why does he not get the same energy because he's not a real housewife when they when they found out all this was happening his first instinct was to downsize and he's not in videos rolling around throwing money in the air. Nor is he giving crazy stories on every episode about about about Jen and his role in it. So like it makes sense. Right.

Um, so let's see. So uh, coach is like, listen, my wife has worked the whole 25 years like, no one here and people see expensive things, but it didn't just all come yesterday. You know, this stuff has been amassed, basically. And it's called the long con, okay? The long con. Yeah, no one accused her of being quick about it. This isn't quick money, okay? Easy money. So, yeah, so he's like, you know, it's been, you know, every day has been painful, but you know, he hasn't worried's like, you know, it's been, you know, every day it's been painful, but he hasn't worried about himself, you know,

and this being implicated in this whole thing because Andy asks about that. And after the charges, Andy asks after the charges was there a conversation where Sharif doubted Jen, he's like, no, I looked at her and I told her, listen, this is going to be tough, tough, and whatever it is, we're going to deal with it. But, you know, rectil bleeding happens. No, it's about me right now, Sharif, it's about me.

So Abby's like, oh, there was a consensus among the friend group that they didn't understand what she did. Only what your understanding of what Jen does for a living. And he's like, oh, well, you know, she does a few things. Obviously, my wife is into a few things. She's into beauty, she's into fashion. And so that's what she does. I mean, okay, thanks for thanks for that answer. So it's like, and what she did prior to that, I can't even begin to elaborate on because it has to do with her case. Now did I understand what she did? Absolutely. Completely under. Okay, well, now you will be blamed the same as Eric. Yes. Now we have, now we have confirmation. You're just a shitty. Yep, that's exactly right. And Jan's like, I don't want to say something.

It was very hurtful to see people like, Whitney's speculating on what I do and my business is less than saying that my business is less than, less than par. I don't even know what that note means, but I guess I said it. I have busted my ass from zero. Okay, and I'm sure you will. You know what that feels like from zero.

Okay, and so it was very hurtful for you when you have a ticket of time to sit down with me, 101, we never had a conversation about my business. I'm sure you will, you know what that feels like, from zero, okay? And so it was very hurtful for you when you have a ticket of time to sit down with me 101. We never had a conversation about my business, okay? And as it happens, it's very simple how I got my money, okay? You call up an old person, you ask if they want to start a business, wait, I'm supposed to stop talking? Okay, I'll stop, I'll stop.

And she's doing all of this monologue from behind her feathers. So it's kind of like a cage anyway. I'm like, wow, you really prepared for this one You should next time just wear a plexiglass address that goes above your head, you know so Whitney's like absolutely I busted my ass from zero and and he's like, yeah, but I mean come on Jen You're being charged with fraud and money laundering. She goes, yeah, but you're innocent until proven guilty. And, you know, because of that, she puts a blanket statement on, oh, Jen's doing this. And she's doing that.

And she's setting up companies. I mean, why would you do that? And Heather is like, she's just explaining what it was. She was just trying to explain the charges. She goes, yeah, I apologize. I read the indictment and you know So I do understand to some degree what you're going through and she's like, well, how would you feel if everybody? I mean look at Justin. He has an FTC thing out there. How would you feel if everyone was automatically? Oh my gosh

I wonder you know, I wonder what the setup is on I risen bowl I Think people are actually doing that a little bit. It's just not as exciting of a story. They're not talking about it because she wasn't arrested by three agencies, Jen. I mean, she's like, I can't believe they were talking about you were just arrested.

But by three agencies, Jen, three. Yeah, they didn't do it because they thought them, they might be able to have a case. They pretty much have everything. Listen, we saw, we saw, we it because they thought them. They might be able to have a case. They pretty much have everything. Listen, we saw, we saw what's her face, what's her face and Homeland Security. We saw her. What's her name, Doma?

It's not Doma. Doma, like, it's like 20th of the New Year. You don't remember her name anymore. Yeah. She's not fucking around. That's the point. She's not fucking around. Dushka from below Dachmato. Aduska.

Aduska. Yeah. So then, you know, this makes me crazy because whenever Jen is in trouble, she immediately throws it at somebody else and Addy falls for it every single time. He's like, well, Justin, you have the kids who are setting up a company that's a beer minz, Gido.

And he's like, well, that's just an allocation. And that was put out four years ago. And then my name was quickly removed, but you know, it still lives. It still lives out there. And we're fighting vigorously, but it still lives and goes, so it's in litigation. He's like, no, just lives out there. You know, there's not much movement, but it lives. And so when we vigorously fight, really, all we have to do is walk up to it and kick it a little Because it really doesn't do anything, but it lives it lives That's it's like my groin on Tuesday nights in the bedroom. It's not much movement, but it's there

Know what I'm saying? So then uh, so then Jen is like well, I don't know why it's so groundbreaking that Jen the brown girl at her black husband How do they get all this money? He must be through something illegal. A little limited to something. My husband, he has three degrees. He has an attorney. He's an attorney for 13 years.

Okay, 13 years, okay, and out of those 13 years, he was a certified NFL agent. Okay, and Seth, do you know how much they make, right? You know how much they make, Seth. And Seth is like, yeah, I wish I was one. Because then I'd be around so many NFL players, wives, breasts, and my right guys high five screen high five. Justin got fired from his job. Did you know that?

I'm trying to find. I did hear that. Actually, I did hear that. He got fired from his job allegedly because of all the sexy stuff that him and Whitney were doing. That's what I figured, which seems kind of late, but whatever, if that was the reason. And then he put out a Facebook, well, first Whitney put one out and she put that poor thing

and like kind of like a young hip, like backwards cap, you know, look, and they're both trying to give serious face to the camera. And it says, I've never, we are the relationship, and they're both trying to give serious face to the camera. And it says, I've never, we are the relationship has never been stronger. There's something like that. And then he posted a couple days later at this really long post, basically like, you know, there are good people and bad people. And like, if you're good, then you're here. And like, you can still see my posts. And so like, thank you for like being one of us

because doors open and then they close and when doors close, like, you're like, what about the open door? But then you're like, should I be mad at the door? But our doors never really closed? I don't think so. And their marriage just makes so much sense when you read the whole thing.

Yeah, I feel like that probably they said it was the sexual stuff, but it's probably because him being on this show is bring probably way more attention to whatever this FTC thing is than it would normally ever get. So I imagine that's probably a factor in it, to some degree. Also, I love the way that Jen Shaw is, is like, you know, really happy to say that Shreef was an NFL agent for many years. I don't think having an NFL agent on your team is like, we've seen Jerry McGuire.

We saw what was going on over there. That's not the sort of personality I want to fortify in my case that I'm a good person. Not Jerry, obviously Jerry was wonderful, but everyone else was terrible. Jerry McGuire wasn't wonderful at first. That was a long, just one and a half hour journey to him becoming a good person. Well, I saw him. Well, he had to have a late night meltdown, okay?

But I'm not sure I'm sure you've had that moment, okay? I have not been convinced that he's had that moment. I'm not sure he walked out of an office with Renee Zelliger. You know, ready to go start a new life with Bonnie Hunt. I don't think so. So basically she's yelling that everybody is being racist against her because they're questioning her, like why wouldn't she have money?

Which, they're questioning you because you were arrested by three agencies and charged at a very high tier. Okay. That's why they're questioning you. Last year, they questioned you as far as like, what is your job? And then you could never answer it. You would never answer it in a way that anybody really understood.

And then they dropped it. So I say, people haven't really questioned you, until now. And there's been a reason, right? And Andy's like, yeah, you know, I mean, I just don't think people understand what you do coach, you are an assistant coach. And she goes, yeah, people think he's a little league coach.

And he goes, well, they don't think you're living off the job of an assistant coach, and they don't know what you do. And she goes, my husband is a D1 level coach. And they just played the Rose Bowl, Andy. It's not a little league. So I looked it up to see how much he made. Like three years ago was 300. Then it was, he gets like 50,000 more a year. This year it ended up being 530,000 a year, including all of his bonuses and retirement and all of that stuff,

which is a good amount. But when you go on saying that you're spending $50,000 a month on stupidity, like she does in her audition tape that we see in this episode, it's like, it literally doesn't add up. Okay. It doesn't, something doesn't add up. Or she was lying on her audition tape. So either she's a liar or something doesn't add up.

Either way, I mean, we're fully in the Salt Lake City mentality right now. on her audition tape. So either she's a liar or something doesn't add up either way. I mean, we're fully in that Salt Lake City mentality right now. Like, this is like how they started all their conspiracy theories. So, um, so Andy asked John if he was surprised that Lisa needed some time to like gather her thoughts before reaching out to Jen. And John's like, uh, well, I'm not surprised Lisa needed time. There was back and forth after the photo shoot that Lisa felt. Oh, is it honey? How did you feel after the photo shoot? She's so bylaws and amazing pie Todd Lisa by lesson amazing person and she's entitled to feel her and have some Healing time healing time

Hmm, so Andy's like so you mean she needed to heal from when she's Jen screamed at her while she was driving on the car with the kids and she's like, John, it's our job. John, it's our two. Look at him, Andy. He's a shun. Oh, well, I mean, I feel okay. He looks like he's a ghost.

Look at him. I actually feel okay. He's practically dead. Have you look at him, John? Can you see? Okay. John. He's traumatized.

I was hysterical crying. And Jen's like, well, it's not like you haven't done that to me. Okay, John. Me. He's traumatized. I was hysterical crying. And Jen's like, well, it's not like you haven't done that to me many times, many times. And John's like, well, I've been in the room with these and Jen have talked both positively and negatively. And it's like two firecrackers going off. And my experience with firecrackers

is that when they go off I run and hide under the bed. So I don't really know what the rest of the conversation was like. Yeah. And um, this coach saw us like, you know, quite candidly, I thought that anyone who answered their phone quickly, it would be Lisa. And she didn't, but then when Heather showed up, now that made me cry. And Lisa goes, oh! Like she, she sounds like she's being supportive, but then she just gives one of her dirty, like, squinty looks over Heather's way. I'm like, oh, you're good person!

So, and the Andy is like, he loves doing this. The two things he loves doing this reunion are rehashing everything Lisa said behind that closed door to just like add more salt into the wound and then also reminding Jen of her prison time. Facing 50 years, that's five decades, that's two scores and half a score, that's half a century, wow, I can't put it into words. How do you stay optimistic about 50 years in the big house? I can't even put it into the word, well, I can think of one word, but, but. That's the word I'm thinking of.

And he's like, I have no choice but to stay positive. You know, Andy, I literally pick her up. There are days that she doesn't move her head. She can't move. She just says, she just says, people hate me because they think I did this terrible thing. So why bother? And then my youngest son has to come in and say, Mommy, I love you. And she's like, it's like mommy, I love you. And I need breakfast. So please, please

come feed me, Mommy. Mommy, I will die. If you don't pour some cereal into a bowl, it's touching, Andy. It's very touching. Mommy, not the tricks. I want fruit leaps today. Mommy, I want a bigger spoon. Mommy, Mommy, orange juice, please. It's beautiful to watch. Yeah, so that's pretty much it.

I mean, Jen is a victim. It's a huge sob storage. You can't even get out of bed in the morning. Well, at least you could sleep. I mean, we Jen is a victim. It's a huge sob story. She can't even get out of bed in the morning. Well, at least you could sleep. I mean, that says something. The fact that you could even crawl in bed after what you're accused of says a lot. But damn. Yeah. So, um, then we got a commercial break. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial And when we come back and he's like well during the break Lisa you just had a big kumbaya moment with with the another like What was that about and then we see a flashback?

One of the classic reunion moves that we've been seeing probably ever since I don't know if Danielle Stopbe pioneered this move of like the sudden let me race across the stage to hug you thing and you're this move of like the sudden, let me race across the stage to hug you thing. But we see it with Lisa just running over to Heather and Whitney and being like, I need to give you guys hugs. I need to give you guys hugs. But she's only hugging Heather.

So she's like, I haven't hugged you guys. And Heather's like, I mean, Lisa, we don't want you to go anywhere, Lisa. We love you, Lisa. What? What is this show sometimes? That comes going on. And Lisa goes, you know what?

You got to know me before you say stop. And when he goes, hey, wait, do I get a hug or just Heather? And they ignore her. So she has to go again. Do I get a hug or just Heather? Something's not adding up. So it was just, it was such a bizarre bizarre moment. One of two bizarre hug moments this week on proper reunions. So Andy is like, so why did you have that moment and why do you keep having these moments off camera? God damn it Lisa Barlow. And she's like, well,

because we should work on things. And I think we left it another season, Gryrd. And we had like a lot of fun on Zon. And we are just like getting to know each other and that's what we're missing Just hugs hugs everything Heather, did you get along with Lisa during the season? You know because that's what Humpty from Dumpty on Twitter says and If I have a long and then you came into the season so angry, other. I mean, just so mad. And Heather's like, I just thought she was going to come and can try and horrified, you know, and hold her hat in her hand.

Like Jen did, like Jen has done, who you completely still kiss the ass of. Give me a break. Yeah. I just think, well, when it came to her, like, she came in doing affirmations about she's a good person doing right Just it triggered me. I was horrified by it and I just I just want I don't want I want to be right there with the ugly with you I want to be the ugly. How about we're both trying we're both trying I did a little bit more I did a little bit more So weird that statement. I just want to be there in the ugly with you

You don't like when people are nice you only like with when they're extreme and evil. I mean, that's something to look into. There's something to look into. No, but I like it when someone's broken down and like crying. Like that's the thing, right? And so- Also, housewives thing, right? They go after you and go after you. And then when they cry, everybody goes, aww, you're so vulnerable.

Exactly. And it's like Amanda just did that to Kyle on Summer House last week too, you know? So I had there's like Lisa is the reason I'm on this couch. I've never Never forgotten that. I'm like wow Excuse me. Let me activate back up to life. So am I So am I and she's like well truth, but Lisa only clean me and you didn't and she's like well Zant that I was one of the people Okay, I'm gonna power down. Yeah, she's saying that Lisa is the one who claims to

have so she kind of, you know, ignores Meredith on it. But why are you saying you've never forgotten that Lisa was the one who got you this gig? You came after Lisa in the first season. It's only season two. And you're still going after Lisa. Yeah. So Meredith is just like doing her power shake their power. And she's down. The system is going back to sleep. And Heather, Andy, basically, they're like,

one of these kids going to get along. And Heather's like, I mean, Meredith was mad at Jen for a year for liking a tweet. So I'm Jen, because she's going to be mad at you for seven. Yeah, because Andy's and he tried to like gaslight them into thinking that they were get like Lisa and Meredith were starting to become friends again because I thought I saw a thawing between you two and they're like Meredith's like no. So she goes I do not hold grudges. I establish boundaries based on behavior and protect myself and my toddler and Jen

So you know it was not about liking a tweet And there were things that indictment that triggered all sorts of stuff of man It was wasn't about being mean. It wasn't wishing you ill will I just needed a boundary? Okay, my battery is low. I've got 5% left before I shut down. So why wasn't she asked what in the indictment triggered her? Because that's kind of a big thing. And it's new for Meredith.

Yeah. And it's rare for Meredith to have a new thing. Because Meredith will go with the same thing just as dramatically every minute of the day. So I kind of needed a question like why? Why? Why? I wonder maybe there was one, maybe there was one because she sort of she does eventually get back to it later on. So maybe that's why they just didn't bother including it right here. I don't know. I don't know why I'm being I'm defending production on this.

Well, here's what we're going to about. Meredith, I'd rather you stop talking about being triggered because we're gonna try to move into an insane little game. The most dramatic thing to happen in the beauty lab parking lot. Walk me through it, walk me through it, guys. So he starts asking Jen like how long were you guys on or how long were you on the road before you finally got pulled over? It was about 20 minutes. And he says, did they arrest you and read you your rights?

And she's like, no, no, they just said they wanted to talk. They just said they wanted to talk, and be. Yeah. And she said they took her to a courtroom building. And then they said like that she needs to see a judge. and they're like, but do you say am I under arrest? And she said yes, they said I was under arrest and she's like, and I said for what? And then the judge came out and that's when I found out what the charges were, it gives me. And he asked her what her initial reaction was and she's like, shock, shock. Yes, go on. Did they say it's just funny because every little thing, no, I wasn't under arrest.

They didn't breed me right. So they did say you weren't. They did say I was under arrest. They did say I was under arrest. Um, so he's like, so did they tell you you were charged with fraud and money laundering and you can be put away for 50 years. And she's like, um, I don't remember really what happened or what he said that day,

but I just remember that that's what I found out there was my diamond. Also, I was like, it's like, I didn't see. Oh my contract. Okay, John, I'm gonna ask you to close your eyes and see if the words I say can take you back to a moment in time.

50 years in jail. You could be going to jail for 50 years. Do you feel anything? Anything at all? Nope. No, I don't remember. I don't remember anything like that happening, though. No, Amy.

Lisa, Marlow is an amazing person. Just wanted to get that in. Good job, John. Not the right time. But it's good. You know, you're on the right path. So then they're, they start talking about the footage, the ring camp footage that we saw with Homeland Security aiming their guns at

Jen's kids, which is very scary. And Jen basically saying that the reason why they released it to Bravo is because they wanted people to see that it doesn't matter. It's in 2022. It doesn't matter if you're in a gated community in Park City or whatever. This is still happening. This is how our boys were treated. And it was very upsetting.

And they just wanted it. They wanted people to see how scary it was. Well, we don't know how stores kids were treated. Have you talked to him since the arrest? And she said, nice segue, nice segue Andy. She's like, no, and we told Heather that you weren't even business partners will stew. And she's like, well, we didn't work together and the business is that we're being discussed.

We just, I mean, on a daily basis, you know, you know, stewers wasn't around me every day. That's why I had so many other assistants. He was, you know, doing stuff. I mean, I barely even know what he looks like. I don't even know who Stuart is for crying out loud. I just was nice to him. I was like, who is this strange person? I guess I'll pretend like he's family, but I also have no idea who he is, to be honest. But you refer to him as even more than a business partner and said that he's very loyal. And then she's like, no, no, other business, I mean, Stuart, what? Who?

And then we see a clip of Stuart going through their businesses on the laptop with her while she's feeding him the banana. And she's like, should I feed you while you're making me money? Yeah, not a business partner at all. I think so. Okay, we're doing this. We're adding more people. Okay, and I had to add a second pass out. That's great, right? Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, I should say, well, you know, he always knew I would make sure he was taking care of it. If I could be successful and something, I was gonna bring along everyone. I felt I could help that helped me get there. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that he helped me get to this financial place and life and but I don't know. I don't know them at all. I don't't even know what's his name again bluer what I'm not familiar yeah she just says he's been around me for 10 years and I'm gonna take care of the people around me what do you like a we work you're like a we work where people just can come work and get fed fruit and just like go over their businesses throw those I had them throw those ideas on a wall or whatever, and Heather's just looking away because this is just crazy. It's bad. And she's like, and as I expanded my business,

you know, I'm just a good person. I helped everybody. You know, so I took everybody with me. Yeah, she said that she took everyone with her who helped her get to where she is. So by extension, that means that Stuart helped her get to where she is, et cetera. And I know it just all sounds bad. So here's from Stewart's guilty plea via, and I got this on page six. It's been printed a bunch of places, but this is where I'm reading it from. I knowingly and intentionally discussed and engaged with other individuals to develop a plan

or operation to obtain money by false representation, by offering and inducing individuals many of whom were over 50 years of age or older to provide money to entities that I and others were involved with. I became aware that these telemarketing companies were misleading customers of those entities by selling individuals, many of them who were older than 50 information that purported to be services to enhance their business opportunities. The services sold were of no value and of no real benefit to the customer. But you know, Stewart, if you've all come to them, she's like, hmm, what are we talking about again? Who? Why? Why? I've helped so many stewards, Andy.

I've helped so many. Sir, you know, one of them got a movie. He's let all the little, the little, this one got a movie, Andy. Andy, I appreciate it, but no, I don't know Martha Stewart. So I don't know what you're asking about her. Lisa, you know what Stewart?

Have you spoken to him? She's like, I've not, I've not anyone. And Heather's like, I reached out to him, but I didn't hear about. Of course Heather is reaching out. It's either Heather Whitney who's gonna reach out to try and get some info from Stephen. Yeah, and then Heather spins it like,

well, I thought this was great because, you know, I thought Stuart's gonna take the plea. He's gonna own what he did. And this will be Jen's vindication. I'm like, I don't think that's how that works, Heather. I don't think he's like, guys, I did it. Everyone else is safe to go home. I don't think that's how a plea deal works. I don't think that's how that works Heather. I don't think he's like guys. I did it everyone else is safe to go home I don't think that's how a plea deal works. I don't think that's the yeah. I think that's the carrot on the stick there

Right So Andy's like buddy is someone you described as being close to you He's going, you know, he keeps questioning her But it's only about whether or not she's friends with Stu, you know. And then we get a clip of Jen's speech to Stu when she's like, I hope you realize this is sacrifices I made for to take care of you and your family. Which after reading our stranger. Whatever you are stranger. Little mouse.

I hope you get a tiny little toy card to drive one day. Your family will be so proud. What about my toy cars? to drive one day your family will be so proud. What about my toy cars? So, um, uh, Andy is just like, so how did it feel to have the women talk about you, uh, and talk about how you paid for things and like the shot squad and all that. And then we basically see a montage of Whitney just asking questions about how does Jen pay for all the things in her life. does asking questions about how does Jen pay for all the things in her life.

And just for the record, any housewife that spends $80,000 on a party, it's quite like everybody says something about, that's part of the show. That's what it is. It's like Taylor back in the day, how did she just spend a hundred grand on Kennedy's birthday party? It was a huge topic of discussion. So although it made it made sense to me that someone in Beverly Hills, California, would spend like $30,000 on a stupid child, like not the child's stupid, but a stupid children's tea party birthday. It is weird to spend like $50,000 a month like on like a glam squad. I feel like in Salt Lake City where it's like Jen's going to like vultures or you know

Kucinotasca. You know, right but in Beverly Hills It wasn't it wasn't normal for the other ladies They were I mean it might have been normal for them, but they're like Taylor. How's that kind of money? You know like those conversations were going on So then Jen turns it to everyone's just full of shit. Like Lisa came up to me and said, I just want you to know people are questioning where you get your money. And I was like, why? Cause I'm brown and you guys have to put down successful people of color. And because you spent $80,000 on a party at top golf, like what even was in that party?

How could you spend that much money in your top golf? Or no, they're talking about the birthday party. Maybe she's she through either way either way. How did that cost $80,000? So Lisa's like, I didn't say I questioned you. She's well, the only time ever heard it. You brought it to me. She was no, I was just saying that everyone else was talking about not me though, not me.

What I was talking about, the impossible burger. I'm telling you, it really is a DM changer. Huge. It's wonderful. And Jen's going, and she says, everyone, and Whitney says, I never said that. Whitney, we've seen multiple clips today of you questioning it.

You have been to season one. Like everyone keeps yelling on it in this. This is a Lisa Rinne thing. It's like everyone's yelling on it, but then they all just fucking live the whole time. I know, I married it because, well, I don't count other people's money. I talk about not understanding your business. Like, I mean, certainly doesn't appear to me

like a sound enterprise, like making sweatsuits with a piece of tape on it, okay? But I never counted your money. Yeah, I mean, what's the difference? Saying you don't understand what someone does is kind of questions about how they get their money, right? Also, as long as we're on this, why don't we find out what Seth does?

How about that? Yes, which is probably why she's dressing that she never said anything, right? So Andy's like, well, what was your motivation, Lisa, and telling Jen that everybody questioned her money? And she's like well you know she was wondering why everyone was always a constat and I said they're saying that it just doesn't add up you know like there's just stuff that doesn't add up but what doesn't add up what doesn't

add up but she's don't ask me I wasn't saying I didn't say I just said it to you but I didn't say eh okay I don't ask me also people were always against you because you were screaming in the yelling and throwing glasses and shit. I can't. That's it. So then Whitney is like, yeah, you know, I've just like never had a friend who spent that much money. I mean, until now, oh, God, I love Angie Harrington and she really has it.

Unlike you, Lisa, I never Angie Herrington and she really has it. Unlike you Lisa. I never questioned your success. You are smart and I know people who work with you and they speak high-lay of you. I have never had a friend at that level. Never. And so, Andy is like, well you said in your audition that you spend $50,000 a month on things that seems like a lot to a lot of people and Jen just shrugged like, well I don't really have an answer for that so yes.

We see the audition tape. Yeah. So we see your audition tape and she's like my husband travels a lot and I've got 20 pieces of luggage every time we get on this plane in 17 or mine. Which of course they're trying to inferring that that private jet is theirs, which clearly is not. Well, they were being so like over the top trying to be on this show. I mean, even Sharif, Sharif has been on the show.

He's always been like, hey, baby, hey, baby. What are you doing today? But on the audition thing, he like whoa my wife. She's crazy She's always buying things shopping shopping shopping women women women. Am I right everyone? I was like who is this to reef and this is where she says I spend like 50 grand a month on my staff and And he's like so you know that seems like a lot to people and Jen just goes and Trugs, he doesn't have anything to say anymore. So, when the a lot of viewers wondered how you knew so much

about fraud and money laundering, I mean, you barely could convert that W into an M for your rebrand. So how do you know about money laundering? Good question. Uh, here we go. A bunch of bullshit whenever they start with good question. Once I was just, once I was reading the indictment and so then that's part of it.

And then two, like I said, I do know someone that used to work with Jen and they explained it to me. It's like, oh, okay. So now you're talking to a witness. Now you were actually questioning someone that's unworked with. So he's like, well, you were able to explain lead generation. And how is that different from what

Jens being accused of? And she's like, well, there's a great area. But you know what? Sometimes I'll use a sharp before. And sometimes I'll actually send him what I can do to make Justin feel young again. And be. And just like, I don't do lead generation.

It's called data monetization, which, by the way, that sounds 10 times worse. Data monetization. And he's like, well, what's that? He's, well, it's generating money from data. You get a name and a phone number. And you generate money from them. I'm like, well, what's that? He's like, well, it's generating money from data. You get a name and a phone number and you generate money from them. I'm like, Jen, that sounds like that literally sounds like what you're being accused of. You have your getting money from people that you just have their number for.

And it's so funny that she's so adamant about exactly her job title exactly. You know, she's like, it needs to be this, even though that's never what she said. Here's a quote from Jen from Busle magazine, and I believe 2020. She says, the marketing companies have been my core businesses for almost 20 years. We do direct response marketing, which what I would say 90% of it is right now in 2020 is all online, but we do a lot of infomercials, direct mail print, and anything that is direct response that requires a call to action from a consumer. I'm the person behind the curtain that nobody sees, but nobody knows how things are working. That's me. I mean, uh, you are so fucked, you're well, the accusation is that married and slept with half of New York

and that doesn't even pay for us. Sorry, I just want to keep that fresh in the background. Okay, the accusation is that you're selling information about people who are elderly or impaired, who are then being roped into paying for things. Just like, I can't comment on it. I can't comment on it. I can't comment on it. It's like, you just said you do data monetization. Like, so Courtney Dion Warwick says things that you're a flip flopper with.

One minute, you were investigating Jen and next, you're offering her support. And Jen is like, yeah, I'm surprised to see that Whitney was such a big flip flopper. Oh, I don't know why anyone. Why would Jen be surprised about that? I mean, Whitney is like, that's always been her thing, right? And Jen's like, well, I mean, I didn't know she was flip flopping because when I saw her, she was supportive. And Whitney is like, yeah, well, I didn't know how I was going to show up for you. Because when you hear that about a friend, I don't care who you are. It rocks your own moral code.

That's me. Whitney Rose with the very impenetrable moral code. Okay. And then it's like, but it shouldn't if you're a real friend. And you must not be my real friend then. You must not be my real friend then. We're back to this old talking point. This is like the, this is the, the, the, you're not my real friend then. You must not be my real friend then. We're back to this old talking point. This is like the, this is the, the,

you're not a real friend, you didn't show up. This is like the smoke and mirrors you do. When you've done something wrong, you go to this, you go to this well. Because then it gets everyone talking about what, like whether or not they were a friend, not talking about what someone actually did. And then that's why this whole second half of the season

has been about who has shown up for who, who's been loyal to who, who has defended whom because it's just a way to not talk about the, the, the real things that are happening. Right. And Jen Whitney says, you know, she did show up for her. And that was her way of supporting. She does, it was a decision, but she chose to show up for Jen. And she think, but then that stuff you said after I like it, it didn't only hurt me, it hurt my husband, it hurt my children. Oh my God. How many people are you accused of completely robbing and fucking over? You, you know, please. And Whitney's like, hey, you know, Whitney gives a, hey, now, I can't believe you would say that. All of that.

She's, yeah, she goes, well, what the, but what? And she goes, what's what happens live? You were like, oh, I don't know. Oh, I don't know. And the clip was basically Whitney saying, I worry for Jen and her family. I don't think this is good for Jen. Okay, I don't believe that that clip hurt Jen's kids

because I don't think Jen's kids care about what happens live. You're meaning to tell me her teenage son is like, hold on a second. Got to watch Whitney Rose on what happens live right now and make sure she doesn't say anything that hurts me. Like I guarantee he was doing anything but that. Well, also, it's, no one's heard by Jen's actions. It's just everyone's reactions to it. And in defense of Whitney, which is rare for me, she wasn't just coming, she wasn't just speaking out of her ass.

She was asked like so, you know, guilty plea was entered on Stuart's behalf. Like, what do you think that she's doing? But and she's like, well, I mean, it looks like at least one of them was involved. So I am worried for her family. This does not look good for her. She was saying it in a nice way. I thought.

Yeah, it was not a vindictive moment. It was actually a pretty forgettable part of, just like a general conversation, but Jen has latched onto it, so she can use it again, sir, but like to say that that hurt her and her family and her kids, I mean, I really don't think they can hear about what he's saying on the live. So Heather was like, so, I mean,

you're responding to her like she said something horrible and she didn't, you know, no one said anything horrible and when he goes Yeah, that week you hashtag Mary was right and Jen starts flipping out because you call my husband is sugar daddy And then you know like you put like work man You put the work to me my husband and done all this stuff is down Which none of this happened, you know and Andy Andy says, I think she said, maybe he... Maybe she has a sugar daddy and then we see the clip. John McDee and the McDeeLT say,

have you ever questioned Jim's business practices? And Whitney saying, I mean, I questioned the lifestyle. I always thought she had a sugar daddy to be honest. So you were only implying that she was having an affair which I guess Jen isn't the place to argue sing is how she did that to Meredith last season Okay, that's all hug. Let's all hug and go Yeah, and Heather's like I mean after everything that's gone on you're upset that she may say maybe you have a sugar daddy I mean that's that's a funny joke. I mean you make jokes like that all the time Jen I mean I mean you're acting so horrified by this,

and it's ridiculous. And Jen's like, well, I'm doing it now because I'm not trying to make a joke, I'm not what you said, okay? Well, I'm trying to make a joke out of what you said, see, because I'm trying to change my narrative like right now as we speak, okay, I'm making a joke, I'm being funny right now, right, guys?

She is so terrible. She is so bad at this. She's so bad at this. So at this so Jen's like can I talk let me talk you were talking and then everything you said was found to be bullshit and now you're trying to pivot into being funny and screaming and crying at the same time it's just not working okay yeah she's like what I feel like is that on my end, it's like, we can say, hey Jen, we can treat you like shit, because you should be just so happy that you have friends

that show up 60% so if we shit on you, it's okay because you need all the friends you can get right now and that's not fair. I actually see what she's saying, right? Like, Jen can't do her normal gender routine of just screaming and yelling and bullying people into submission because she needs these friends and I think Heather's like I stood by you even though you're terrible so I get what she's saying but you're only trying to not go off on them because they are your

only friends and you do need all the friends you can get right now so you know you're between a gen and a gen place your fact yeah and Heather's. Yeah. And Heather's like, well, you do shit on me. And I still show up for you. And Jen's like, what do you keep bringing that up? Like today, you said, oh, Jen shitty. I said, you guys are always reminding me of that. So now, Jen is the victim that, like, her friends are reminding her that she shitty to them.

Like, she's the victim of the reminders of her behavior. When she just brought up people questioning her use of party money in season one, like, okay, so the past are on limit now, the past is off limits. So Heather's like, just ask Andy why it's still coming up. You're the only person who's brought it up multiple times today, Heather, okay. And she's like, no, but like today,

you said like, Jenna, we should eat. Like, like, Jens, I wish I had a, like, what do you have to remind me all the time? Yeah, and so, uh, Jens is like, and I said, Heather, can we just like keep saying that as a joke? It hurts me. Can we like, not, keep saying that as a joke? And like it hurts me every time you see that, like I'm, like I'm sorry, like I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

And there's like, okay, well fine. I didn't know that that hurt you. So, and the way, when she just said on national TV, I mean, what about Whitney Sussman and his FTC violations? That's true. You're just the best friend in the world, Jen. And he's like, well, they're in a sprinter van that's swarmed by a Homeland's Geary and the FBI,

and tentatively the NYPD too. So wouldn't it be natural them to question this and look into it and speculate maybe. And Jen's like, yeah, it's absolutely normal. And when he goes, it's human nature. Which I just thought was funny. You know, as we all know, human nature is that when you're on a sprinter van

and it's sworn by three different agencies, you're gonna question things. It's human nature. And Jen screams that, you know, it's that they brought up other shit when she said her lowest, and it's none of it was true. And that's what's not normal about it.

And Andy's like, okay, well, let's talk about that. Lisa, after the address, you were immediately distant from Jen. No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. No, yes, you were. You were. No, no yes you were. You were.

No, no, you were. I don't speak for myself. You're not going to speak for me. You're not going to speak for me. Well, it speaks for you because you speak for everyone else. How about that? I am going to speak for myself. Be quiet.

Be quiet. I'm going to speak for you. I'm going to speak for you. I'm not going to be quiet. I'm not going to be quiet. I'm not going to be quiet. I'm not going to be quiet. Oh, not gonna be quiet. I'm not gonna be quiet. I'm not gonna be quiet. No, Jen is just yelling stupid shit. So Andy's like, so you did call all of your six lawyers and then we see the clip of that.

Somebody you think lawyer number one, I am shocked. I'm shocked. Lawyer number two. I am shocking. I am a shabby. And she's like, we know what I call six lawyers, because there was no information, and I call them to ask if there was anything on the docker. And Heather's like, the docker. Yeah, it was a smart response, okay? Because any claim against you is on the docker. And like, Google it before you judge. Yeah, because Heather's like, I mean, what's a docker?

Is there like a legal, like, ledger? They're like a legal like Ledger yes Heather there is actually I love how they're getting so mad just because she doesn't know what something is she's like that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life a Docket just cuz yeah any action to cast you as on the doc at just well. I don't know what a docket is Action to cast you as on the doc at just well, I don't know what a doc it is And so Lisa says Google it then before he judge and Jen goes you I just love that our instinct is so ingrained in her that she's just gonna flip around anything like Bitch and she goes you don't call me a bitch now. She's like you you're a bitch! Does that make you feel god to pile on like that?

She goes, um, you're a bitch, everyone up here! Find everyone? You're a bitch, everyone! Okay, okay, pile on! Pile on! Okay, can I touch? I can focus part of you, and I can like yell as much as you, and I can do this all day long.

Okay, I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. Okay, I see what you're doing. Jen's like, what am I doing? She's turning the narrative, but guess what? You can't narrate me. You can't look, I'm gonna close my mouth. You can't narrate.

No narrate. No narrate. So the women guys together at dinner in Vell and they had a lot to say, Meredith, you decided Jen was guilty right away with no proof. Just I'm I did not. I said innocent until proven guilty. I'm the one who times me. And Jen's like, well me watching it.

I remember you saying that, but like you were like, I tried to tell you guys, I tried to tell you guys. And then you were like, cuddling Lisa. God Jen she is terrible and you notice how calm she suddenly gets she's just screaming and going for Lisa and then when it comes to Meredith she's like yeah Meredith but like watching it back and like she immediately gets calm because Meredith has stood up to her so well you know so she's like, you just wrote me off, Lisa. Like, yeah, you wrote me off, Lisa. I like mad at her, I really like it.

And it was very nice. I'm just like, yeah, la la la. When Meredith was way worse, Meredith was sitting there taking the bath of her lifetime. I told you what was gonna happen with her. I told you. Yeah, because she knows that she can go after Lisa. Exactly.

Lisa is going to flound her and get tripped up in her own words and logic and the other woman are going to jump on it. Whereas Meredith is like really stood her ground well this reunion. She sort of like she's made her case. She's sort of intractable, but she just sort of, she just presents everything in such a coherent, organized way that you sort of just feel like you can't really argue with her because no matter what you do, she's just going to be like, I said it because I hadn't had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich yet that day. And that's why.

And you're like, oh, well, she never peanut butter and jelly sandwich. So that's what she did. So make some sense. Yeah. So then they moved to the Uber story. And he's like, Lisa, were you insinuating that she was having an affair when she got out of that Uber? And she's like, well, no, I mean, it was just after my aunt and I was just saying, wow,

she's like out and about and she's like, mad at me. She's like mad at me. That's why I was commenting. And she's giving an angry look like, oh, right, Lisa, you were the one who brought it up on national TV, Heather, to make Jen. I'm like, that was part of your evidence against Jen when she got arrested was like guys. She also jumped out of the Uber that I got her. And it was, you know, whatever you started the insinuation.

But it's also funny, like Lisa's explanation, like, no, you started the insinuation. But it's also funny, like Lisa's explanation, like, no, I'm not insinuating Shad and affair. I just was like, wow, she's mad at me and she's out and about late at night, wow. Like, like, in what world is that a fascinating story that you wanna gossip to people about? Like, guys, Jen was out late, you know?

Yeah. I don't like go home with I'm mad. It's crazy. Yeah. Yes only go home and I'm out. Scrazing. Yes. So then. So Andy's like, so why did you get out of the Uber that Heather got you? And she goes, because blank was picking me up, which is Mariello, right? The assistant? Was it Mariello? Not some Marillo is getting blanked out now also as well as the guy who... Well, when it comes to this stuff, because wasn't Marilo the one who shoplifted out of the store.

Oh, was it? Yeah, yeah, you're right. So he doesn't get so they don't get in trouble. But she goes because blank was was picking me up and out of respect for Heather, he can't come to Heather's house. And Heather says, yeah, because he's stolen from me and he's not welcome. And I mean, what is not welcome anywhere in my vicinity. Let me finish my sentence before I even say, Heather, what the fuck? You're hanging out with all this talk of who's loyal to who? You're so mad about loyalty between Lisa and Meredith and blah, blah, blah blah and you're still talking to Jen when She is friends and hired someone that stole from you

Well, what was crazy is that you stole from Heather and Maridith like the maridith thing like the argue You know, there was a whole counter argument about that like oh well I was told it was okay. It was a mistake and yada yada yada and I brought it back Etc there was a whole thing on social media, but now it's two different people on the cast that there's been some theft with. I mean, so I lifted up, of course, just because I had to get the information on this too. So it's the same employee that stole from Meredith. He's accused of taking money to set, well, she said he was taking money, but then his

response, I'm getting this from cheat sheet, good old cheat sheet, his response was that he was accused of taking money to set an appointment at beauty lab for Jen. And then when he was confronted, he supposedly resigned, but claim that Heather has used him since for other services like transporting her kids and other kinds of services. and he is just horrified

that she would respond like this. So that's what he's saying. Heather was not quoted in this, but I mean, that's too housewise you've stolen from in one season, sir. In one season, I don't think that's a great track record. Yeah, you know. So then Andy is like, well, why didn't you take the Uber home, you know, from Heather's place. And basic Jen is like, oh, I didn't want to drive

45 minutes in the Uber. You know, it's a 45 minute drive. So I would have him picking me up, which doesn't make sense either. If you're bragging about spending $50,000 a month and it's like it's no big deal, but suddenly you don't want to pay for a $45 Uber. You drive someone else's way. Someone else was and what did he fly you in helicopter? Cause she's like, I didn't want to drive 45 minutes. Like Mariello flies. He's like, I'll do it.

I'll get you a whole wake quicker. So Heather's like, yeah, and she's told me, wait, so this hold on, let me go back to my pre notes. Cause Heather says he's stolen from me and he's not welcome anywhere in my vicinity and She's told me continually that she has no relationship with him. So I guess Jen has been lying and Jen was like, no, that was after that all happened and Meredith goes, wait, what's the Uber driver story? What's that? What's the driver's story? What's the... Yeah, because there was Andy, as Andy mentioned, there's a podcast

where that someone interviewed the driver who then said that he took Jen to a condo and Jen goes, Yeah, that's a lie. That's a lie. And Jen's got that little smile on her face, you know, when she's caught. So then she laughs. And Andy's like, well, as far as you know, are you red flag that Louis Vuitton? Is that you red flag?

No! And it's like, well, Meredith, where'd you hear about that? Well, I got it from someone who works at Louis Vuitton and I'm not gonna name names but let's just say her name rhymes with a man of Ben Torre. Well tell it from Mundo wants to know what Jen did to terrorize your family for the past two years Meredith and she's like well for a star if I've been told like multiple parties some of them who are ambass or no like looking at Lisa they are looking to destroy me and there's a just say names okay otherwise I feel like it's just like me and it pisses me off and Meredith is like well and then I hear other things that lead me to believe

and those collusion was involved in things like this. And I was like, this is enough. I am done. My toddler needs to be protected. So then they're like, what? Because Jen's, you know, going, but I've never tried to have a PI role. And Andy's like, yeah, what did you hire a PI?

Just actually, he was a cyber specialist. And Heather had called me, because she had gotten these very bizarre messages as well. And Heather's like, oh, yeah, I mean, just horrible. They're so bad. They're like rhyming messages of death. Yeah, I don't know what. I mean, just horrible, they're so bad. They're like rhyming messages of death. Yeah, I don't know what. And then we know how their bassley tells us.

It's like, roses are red, violets are blue, season one is over, we all played you. I'm like, that's just hilarious because like that's the most gen shot text you could imagine. Like, as you well, what like stalker in the world is going to like lead is going to lead with season one is over like we just route production and I hate you you know right and we all played you also that's not a message of death okay I mean unless there were more but Meredith says that they also texted both of her sons, and when Andy asked her what

the investigator felt, she said, he's on it, can't be Jen, but he didn't say conclusively. Which makes no fucking sense. It could be Jen. That's never made sense to me. Well in the case of these mysterious texts, the cyber investigator was able to narrow down two suspects. One was Miss Jennifer Shaan. The other was someone named Ranza Farahan. It didn't quite make sense, but I did receive an email that just said spoof texts from a mic shoe head. So I don't really know what that all means.

And they say that the connections were that there were only a limited number of people who had their numbers and their emails. So it made it smaller. Yeah. Like they're so mysterious. Their phone numbers are so hard to get mysterious. But also like the way that Meredith says it, she says, well, on the only people who have both of our numbers are the people in this room plus Mary, plus production. I'm like, well, you know, productions like 100 people. Yes. It's called a call sheet. Everyone gets those. Yeah. He didn't give me a conclusive answer. Yes, it's a. So I'm in a way. I don't like to operate on things in our facts,

except that you told people that you hired an investigator and you're 90 something percent sure that it's a gen. So it sounds like, I mean, listen, you're, you're full of shit too. Right. I also did receive quite a manacing text about someone not being able to ever meet a baby shams. And I said, you got a mistake and mine's name broke. So it was very, very uncomfortable.

So then of course, Jen spins it because it's Jen, okay? And I think that everybody probably knows his Jen at this point. I mean, on the show. And so, Jen's like, yeah, but what about all the text message? My children have gotten, or I've gotten, saying my sons are gonna be skinned alive and burnt and calling them the N word. From your logic, should I blame you guys for doing that? So, like, you know, it's first of all terrible that she gets texts like that, right? But Meredith is just like, well, that's why I dropped it because until I read about, she doesn't, Meredith obviously doesn't engage with this logic, right?

She's not going to go there. She's just like, well, that's why I dropped it, you know? And the only reason why I brought it up again is because in the indictment, aka the docket, she had read about Jen using encrypted messaging. And that's why she was triggered. And that's where it all comes together. The encrypted messaging. And Andy goes, what?

And she's like, in the indictment, Andy goes, oh, that's why you triggered the indictment. Oh, that's why you triggered the entire, oh, that's why you triggered you. That's it. Remember when you were asking questions and then you came to a conclusion and ended it by concluding that Lisa was saying you weren't there for even though you were. Oh my God, don't get mad. I'm like, I'm gonna get mad, I'm gonna get mad. So then, and he's like, okay, so guys, who here thinks that Jen is guilty of fraud and money laundering?

And of course, no one raises their hands, right? But it's a big long pause, yeah, it's a big long pause. And Heather's like, well, I love Jen. I don't care if she's guilty or not. And then Lisa just like jumps into one up. Jen told me she's innocent, and I believe her. I believe her, yeah, I love her back I don't care if she's guilty or not. And then Lisa just like jumps into one up. Gentle machine's innocent, I believe her. I believe her. Yeah, I love her.

Yeah. And Heather's like me too. And I'm going to be in court every day. And I am going to fight for her. I'm going to fight for her. And then Meredith is like, well, I have no idea. I hope so. I hope she's innocent, but I'm not the judge or the jury. I'm just a grown woman dressed in blue feathers today. And then Jen shrugs to Whitney and Heather like, well the success rate of the New York State of Journey is 95%. Man, she's like, yeah, because people take please.

But I'm fighting for this. I'm doing this for everyone out there who doesn't have the resources or the means so they don't fight. I'm innocent and I'm gonna fucking represent every other person out there. They can't fight. Oh, like people who are victims of phone scams, like those people, right? So then, so then Andy is like, so what do you mean that they targeted you?

And, and Jen's like, because Meredith called the fifth, just kidding, just kidding. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I know as weird then it goes to break and then Heather and Jen start hugging and Heather's like I'm sorry It's gonna be okay, Jen. It's gonna be okay and they're hugging and Jen's just like coughing in like Heather's ears It's gonna be fine. You know you treat me horribly and cough in my ear. It'll be fine. I'm showing up for you right now Welcome back and Heather's like I just cried really hard during the break and he I'm gonna need some tissue Hold on Annie. I'm not even touching up. Oh, such a good person. So the trial was set from March 22nd. Already been delayed.

Lane got to say. And he asked if it's a jury trial. And he's like, you know, I mean, I keep saying the max sentence is 30, which he literally has never said. He's got 50. But then I rather one charge is 31 charges 20 with me. Africa, the tabralista, X, the dollar, the shesandee, 50 equals 50 years.

As you guys, well, I don't know because you don't know what the charge is. And she's just like, well, I mean, then I mean, maybe I'm going to say, like, guess what? You're going away for 50 years because, wow, okay. Uh, okay. Well, you've been watching this season. You've been very quiet on social media, which is sort of against Bravo rules. And I'm impressed. And by impressed, I'm undisappointed.

Is there anything else you didn't get to say today? Um, I mean, what about me? Hey, man, some said. So they go, she basically says she's still gonna be here for season three. And before we go, what does everybody's take away for the season? And Heather said, Oh, that's a cruel word to use the Gen Shaw takeaway. But anyway anyway go on

My miss I didn't do it. I didn't take anything away any so others like my biggest takeaway is that fake tears Oh, thank tears those stage direction is it we're all human and We regret things and no one is beyond redemption like we uniquely love each other on this stage and Gen for even showing up today. I commend you. I admire you and I love you And Jenny says well walking into seasons of newbie when I took from this is I'll speak my mind more. I'll, you know, I should just be out there and I should be out there more. It's like, oh Jenny, you wound up being quite out there and good luck to you.

So then Whitney is, she's like, there's so many things I learned this season, but the biggest is to believe in myself and growth. And I learned, it's important to stand up. No, stand, stand and deliver. No, stand tall, stand proud. Voices that care are calling out. Wait, what is it again? Take a stand. I didn't take anything. I'm not on the trail yet. I don't have to take the stand. I love that Whitney learned is it's it's important to take a stand. You flip-flopped on every single thing you brought up this season with me. You took no stand, okay? So Meredith is like I learn it's important to not let things faster because I am turning on things and before you know it, things start popping out of my shoulders when I am up in my dress,

like I am no-mim. Yeah. I've learned a lot of things, especially in the last five days, like I actually learned nothing until five days ago, and I've had a very hard time being vulnerable, and I just want to say, ah-ha-ha-ha! I wasn't raised that way,

and it's because I'm not vulnerable, people don't see me for what my heart really is Which is hard shall talk oh I Learn that you're stronger than you think you are and if you can get through the impact of the initial news Like it's devastating as it's been I know my husband loves me and like that's it those are my takeaways Not much but takeaway also old people know the number of the police. I think that's probably your biggest takeaway That is the takeaway that's the big takeaway

So well, thank you everyone for truly mind-blowing season to wrap this up. We're gonna bring out some fire roasted friendship churros. So they all get some churros and pass them around, and then they give it a Heather to make a final toast. And she's like, I would like to say, how sweet the Salt Lake City, we are phenomenal, beautiful, fashionable,

real fake Fucked up and locked up. That's what we are cheers everyone and Then Whitney gets the last line of the rain in and it is so Whitney she goes it's not gluten free I Just took a stand That was the end that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. The entire season. Yeah, we did it. The entire... Triumph It.

I almost feel sad because they will... They're never going to be able to replicate the season. I'm just going to say this right now, not to come from a place of negativity, but it was just such an amazing, amazing, like, once in a lifetime season. So I feel like we were all very lucky to have experienced it together. Yeah, it was a great season. I really enjoyed it.

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