Watch What Crappens - Shahs: Tears and Loathing in Los Angeles

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

On this week's Shahs of Sunset, Reza blocks all his friends and then cries that he feels alone. Plus, GG endures a medical hardship, and Tommy faces the legal consequences of his actions. In other words, it's a hilarious time for us. Come listen! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What Guess what happens Hello and welcome to WatcherCrapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker of The Real House where there's a kitchen island available on YouTube and also of the Game Brain podcast which is all about board games, if you're interested in that. So go check both of those things out. And joining me is a very talented and lovely person. It's Ronnie Caram from the Rose Pricks Bachelor

Ristpod podcast. Hey Ronnie, what's going on? Hi. Hi. Hi, I'm Connie. But I was gonna say happy Tuesday, although I can't remember if it's Tuesday or Monday today, because the days run into each other. It is Monday, but for everybody listening, well, for some people listening, it's Tuesday.

It's not crazy. It's the thing about doing podcasts, okay? You never know what day it really is. Never know what day it is. So before we even dive into anything, we wanna give a shout out to some small business owners. We've been saying like, hey, if you have a small business that's being massively impacted

by this pandemic, let us know because it's just a hard time for everyone. So the first shout out, wanna give to Twisted Roots Winery, who was so kind to send over a few bottles of wine, which is actually something I really needed at this time, okay? So go check out twisted roots. They are, the wine is lovely and y'all should order from them. And also we have another winery, Laurel Ridge. So twisted roots is from the Carmel Valley in California

and Laurel Ridge is an organ wine and one of our listeners wrote in that this is their family vineyard. It's a small farm. And they're just trying to get things happening. And believe I read that they're offering free shipping, but don't quote me on that. I don't want to put them in a situation where they're like, hey, I said free shipping. But the point is this, go check out both of these wineries, which are run by fellow crap ins listeners, twisted roots and Laurel Ridge, the more wine the merrier for most people. So go check those out.

Were there any other ones, Ronnie, that we wanted to give some love to? What about your uncle's restaurant? Yeah, the Waterloo businesses and Austin catering are all doing curbside and Austin catering are all doing curbside. Austin catering is doing really good. Meal home. Meals for the home. Like Easter is coming up. A lot of stuff coming up that obviously you're not going to be going to the grocery store getting stuff. So if you want stuff for

your home or you want to pick up delicious meals, they're doing cocktail cocktail service where they give you cocktail kits. She can go pick up that are really good at waterloo. Also one of our friends Jackie has a really fun t-shirt company called Velvet Hammer Designs. So you guys should go check out her stuff. A lot of really fun Bravo t-shirts. And we'll be adding more to these as we go. I had some on my Instagram that were kind of separated out, but of course now I can't find them because we're recording and that's just how I roll. You know, I start scrolling through my phone

and I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, and you know what, I'm gonna throw one out. She didn't even ask for a shout out, but I'm gonna give her a shout out. Our friend Cita, who I think we even may have mentioned last week, because she's friends with Leah from Real Housewives of New York, but Sida, who was a frequent co-host of ours, back when this was Housewives, Housewives, who down years ago, she actually does tarot card reading. That's what she does now. So if you want a virtual tarot card reading,

go hit her up on Instagram. I believe her Instagram is Cida. Let's see. This is a real prepare ban. Real prepare. Cida C young S ITACYOUNG. Get your get a reading going. Find out what's in the future and literally in the cards for you. Yeah.

So we'll be chatting somewhere of those at next week. I'll get my stuff together and not have to sit here and scroll through my phone. But another fun thing that I found while I was scrolling through my phone where all these screenshots I took of Kelly Dodd that dumb dumb. Did you see this then? No. So over the weekend, her boyfriend who's a Fox News reporter. Yes was reporting say work. Yes And behind you just see Kelly running across the street flipping somebody off with both fingers and it is hilarious She's just in the background So Kelly still fucking nuts. Oh God. I love her. She is crazy in the best way. And also guys, before we dive into today's recap of Shah's

of Sunset, also just in as a reminder, we've got this like our Tiger King week. And we are doing a bonus episode every single day this week, recapping a new episode of Tiger King. And those are also on Crappens on Demand. So go to patreon.com slash watcher crappens and sign up. And you can listen and watch us recap all of Tiger King. Today's episode will be episode four, right?

Yes, two, three, four, five, you know. It's hard to remember days anymore, but today is episode four. So go take a listen to that. And next week we are going to do the premiere of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills live on the internet. That will also be we'll do the first we'll do a pre-show on IG live like we did for New York last week and then we're gonna head over to Krapazan Demand to live stream. The Beverly Hills premiere which is really fun because we can see your

comments as we recap and we can address them And if you didn't listen or watch at the end of our New York show when we're done with the recap We actually started taking questions and stuff from people or reading comments on the show Which was really really fun thing for us. So come join us for that next Friday night Yes, and today we are on to the shawls of sunset. This episode is called the shady bunch. Seems to work. The episode opens up with Destiny.

She is going to a diner to have breakfast with Destiny. I was like, are there two Destiny's at this table? What is happening here? But no, one of them was her sister Kat. Yes, Kat. And she looks like a cat person She does she just looks like a cat person who just rolled out of bed and is covered in cat hair It looks very catty. She also looks like someone who is Just at her with end after years and years of listening to her sisters and named Prattling on

She's like, you know what? I used to have some life energy in me. And now I'm just I'm just drained. And I just want to sit here in this strange diner and eat my, eat my biscuits and not ever have to listen to my sister again, but alas, here she is. Because that's something is so destiny. She's so destiny. She's like, oh, I'm so hungry. My stomach is like, bro, and my nips are pumping look at these nipples like my nipples my nipples are out This was like put your fucking nipples away. That's disgusting fucking eat. Thank you Yeah, and she's like, yeah, my sister cat is like everything to me. She's like a sister She's like a mother. She's even like a father to me. I mean, it's really it's crazy. I put a lot of emotional burden on her

It's it's great. I love it Yeah It's crazy. I put a lot of emotional burden on to her. It's great. I love it. Um, so destiny's like, how I need me get out of my head because everyone is being like so mean to me. And cats like, oh, Jesus calm down. What happened to your male arrive late? Is that what happened? She's like, okay. And then like, though, wait, just come. She's like, I'd like to have some bacon well done. I'm a horrible Muslim cat just glares at her like, you're just terrible, you're terrible. I can't believe this, you're my sister.

So like is, I see your car out there. Is that a possum in the front seat? We're dating now, we're dating. Totally into me. Yeah, and then for the first time ever in the history of this show, I believe, definitely finally acknowledged that she was on the People's couch with her sister. She's like, we do everything together. We're so close, we even were on a TV show called The

People's Couch, which was very meta for that to happen. So then she starts talking about how she just like, she just like, I just like, I hate all these accusations that like, I planned all this stuff between Adam and Elle Ellie. I like I did not do that. I did not. Yeah, I'm having trouble even getting through this like recapping. I don't even know why I was writing down notes because I was not even there mentally. I was like, shut up Destiny. Shut up, thirsty Destiny with your stupid storyline

about Sarah's brother, which I'm not buying for two seconds. And then you're a big victim in everything else, which I'm also not buying. Okay, now that said, I do find your sister very entertaining. So may I suggest a replace? Yes, can we please have Kat instead of Destiny? Because Kat just like has no, she just has no patience for this.

Cause you know she actually, I'm assuming she has a real job, and this, the last thing she wants to do is take time off from her real job to meet her sister at some diner called Squires or Spires and listen to this bullshit. Yeah, and this cast could use that kind of energy. You know, she seems like she would tell Resa like,

uh, yeah, I did say they bring it up on camera because that's what you do. You fucking queen. Now sit down and shut up. Yeah. So Destiny is moaning about how she just doesn't get any respect with this group and like no one respects me and cats like Well, people don't give you respect. You don't they don't need to be walking on your journey. Okay. What's going on with your dating next topic?

Yeah, well the man horror who's probably not really into me, but wants to be on TV Okay, perfect anything else. She's like okay So basically listen destiny you need to live life as if today is your last day. You're getting the check. Good, you're still on TV, thanks. Thanks, Ann. Bye. See you in nine months.

So then, Sarah and Gigi are meeting up and they come across a dead bee and Gigi's like, oh my God, a dead bee! Yeah, she was like, there was an animal shaman in Vegas last year who told me I was a bee. Is that dead bee me? I'm like, first of all, there's a few concepts here that should never be linked together. Animal shaman vagus.

So let's already like take everything with a mass of grain of salt. Yeah. So it doesn't really matter if you were called to be. Also notice that she was wearing a t-shirt that had a marijuana leaf, but the leaf was painted like the American flag. So I don't know what's a repeat that makes you, but maybe a tacky bee, I don't know. A Maga Bee.

Maga Bee. Maga Bee. Maga Bee. Maga Bee. Maga. Maga. Maga. So she's high and they're going to see a Ricky master because God forbid Sarah does something. Listen, Sarah has dated Arkelli, okay?

Like, can we get some shots of like Sarah behind the couch every time she hears in a ways outside thinking Arkelli is going to come take her apartment back? I mean, something, there has to be something more interesting than going to a Ricky master with Gigi. I know. Seriously. So they go, they meet up with this crazy guy. I think his name was Dennis. I don't, I didn't write it down, but he was giving me.

Romeo. Romeo. Oh, he was giving me Dennis energy. Okay, Romeo. He's got a Dennis face, but a Romeo name. And I'm guaranteed he made that shit up himself. Yeah. Yeah, his name is probably Paul.

So they are, so he's like come on in Come take a seat and GG. Gigi's like, oh, can I get a glass of water? Please? He's like yeah, I'll be right back So he goes off to get water and then GG basically tells Sara that she was pregnant She had a miscarriage and now all the embryo is still in her and it's kind of stuck and this whole thing It's this whole dramatic like obviously it's like a lot to just sort of like drop on one person. Not saying it's wrong to do it, just like it was a whole lot of information

and so I was like, wow, and I'm like, how long does it take to get water? This is not a conversation that happens while someone's fetching water. Yeah, and so I was like, wow, that's a lot girl. Wow, she's like, man, and I thought it was bad that Destiny is dating my brother. Woo, yeah, that's probably up there.

Yeah. So then he comes back and he's doing that stick burning thing. And from me, I was like, I need you to stand up and invite my energy in. Okay, you know what? I haven't we already lived through that. I think that we're past that in 2020. I don't think I should just say that to people in. Okay, you know what? Are we already lived through that? I think that we're past that in 2020. I don't think guys should just say that to people anymore.

Okay. You're gonna need to find a new way around Raky, sir. Cause this is uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. And where was Kelsey Patel? Was she busy? I mean, she's the Raky master that I wanna see. Is that Jackson's Raky lady? Yeah, yeah.

God, you know her name, Kelsey Patel? You know, some things are just ingrained. Kelsey Patel. That is crazy. Kelsey Patel. And see, that doesn't sound like a made up name. Romeo sounds like a made up name. Okay. I don't need to go learn how to clean my chakras from somebody who names himself after a character that kills himself in the end. No. Okay. definitely not. Yeah, I agree 100%. So basically, yeah, they get Chakras cleaned. He's like, okay, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and clean your chakra.

It's open. Oh, yeah, open the chakra. Yeah. And Gigi is like, I've got some questions about, like, are there things I need to be doing with my life? And he's like, hmm, let me just ask the spirits real quickly. Hold on. I'm just gonna stand here and make it real awkward for everyone while I ask the spirits. And while he was asking the spirits, you hear,

boom, I was like, he's watching Real Housewives of New York in this one. That was total Real Housewives of New York themes. Seriously. And then he like opens his eyes, he goes, so there's gonna be a lot of positivity in like the next three months or so. I was like, wow, that could not be any more big. Like that is like it.

Over the next three months, there'll be something good. Okay. Yeah, how about I'm holding your PayPal payment until that happens? Yeah. So you might wanna ping me in three. Bitch. And then he has this creepy smile and he's like,

did that make sense? Did that make sense? And of course, Gigi's like, oh yeah, totally, because my doctor said that in three months, I could start jogging again and I love to jog because you get an indoor from rush. When you get an indoor from rush, you become productive and last time it's productive, I came up with a woo-side,

so I might come up with a good idea now so oh my god wow what a great prediction thank you so then Reza is driving with his prisoner Jesus just like staring out the window like it is like he's just been picked up from school you know and he's like wait like his dad was late I needed for you I was all alone out there. Not only was Dad late, but Dad did not bring the juice box. That was met for him. He was like, so excited to get his five alive and like, it was not there.

So we're just sulking in the front scene. He's just sulking staring out the window like, Are you my mother? Are you my mother? Do we have to go to the dentist now? So Nima calls and breathes like yo yo yo yo Nima It's like shut up, Ressa also He's in this Mercedes and he has outfitted this Mercedes on the interior with this all these nasty purple accents Did you notice that? It's just so cheesy intact. Yeah, I was gonna say I didn't know that they came with that stuff.

Do they come with that now? I don't like the purple light party bus gym thing side. I do not think so. I think he's just like a bitch lost 40 pounds and then was like, I wanna enroll my car on that show with exhibit on MTV, Pimp My Ride. Am I right? But it's not on the

How did that so ever get canceled? I need that so back immediately please? I don't know but the creator of it murdered his wife, so maybe that had to do with it Well, I'm not saying murder your wife and that's okay, but you know the show didn't do anything wrong now I know the so did perfectly good things with old Honda Accords wrong now I know the show did perfectly good things with old Honda Accords okay I'm gonna reboot the show it's called it Pimp my chef Ron so Neema's like oh I know this is gonna make you mad but the more you think about what Mara said the more it makes sense you guys should sit down and talk. Get a little life, Neema. Why is this, why is this all you talk about every single day?

Let it go. Because he's the eca's parents are divorced and so he has anxiety when people are quarreling and he needs to like fix it. So Reza's like, I can see where this is going. You and Mike are drinking the Kool-Aid and being super messy and I would never ever ever be super messy. Never in eight years of filming this television show I've ever been messy. Yeah, he's like if you guys want to be friends with them, Jay, I invite you to find a tunnel that that crawls up her ass and then crawl

up the tunnel that goes up her ass and then being her ass and then be like, you know what? This ass would look a lot better if there were purple lighting surrounding everybody in it. And until then I will not hang out this ass. There! Keep in mind, by the way, that the beginning of the season, when he was mad at Destiny, he only stopped being mad at her when she essentially crawled up his ass. So there's that. So Nemo's like, all I'm trying to do is create a game-changing moment when two people sit down and talk and exchange their brains.

What is it down? They just screamed. Listen, Nima, you're going to make it worse. Stay the fuck out of my business with MJ. I don't need your help. Period. Duh, duh, duh, duh. I didn't just hang up. Pfff.

And let's go to Valley Marshal Lards. Hey, you know what? Albert Nima is gonna talk about something else right now. Nope, he's not. He's gonna go talk about this some more at Marshal Lards. So Nima is at Jujitsu with Shervin. And Nima is like, I've been studying Jujitsu for about a year and a half

because apparently anything going on in my life started a year and a half ago when I had my midlife crisis went on to a reality TV show and decided to change all my hobbies. So anyway, new teeth, am I right? He's that guy who decides to learn how to ride a motorcycle and then buys a $10,000 Harley, and they don't even know how to ride. Yeah, this is outfit you're wearing, okay?

You've not earned that outfit. Exactly. So he starts talking about jujitsu and he's like, Persians don't have combat sports. I mean, we don't want to roll around and fight people. Our defense system is lawyers and American express cards. Am I right? Am I right?

Why are you stalling a white belt? That's my question, okay. How long does it take to get out of the white belt? And if you've just paid like $20,000 for New Teeth, why on earth would you ever be taking a jujitsu class? I mean, even I got to a yellow and karate. Oh, you took karate? Jitsi?

Oh, yes. I've been in every sport band, but only as a child, you know, because my mom was like, why does it just sit there like that should not think move or yeah I've been in every sport um so where are we so he's like cool yeah the only belts so Sherman House or Gucci belts no because we're Persian so our defense system or lawyer or some amex cards I'm so Persian! One thing I do, some that's a little odd to me, is how on the one hand Nima likes to talk about how he's been totally disconnected from the Persian community, and he was raised super American, not with really any connection to the Persian roots, and that's one of things is that he's trying to always get back in touch with it. So it always seems like a little odd to me that he makes jokes about,

this is what Persians are like, whatever. When it feels like he just started to connect with it, and I'm not saying that he can't do it, but sometimes I do feel like, isn't that like a sort of a strange thing? Like I was just trying to fit in. Yeah. It's like on Persian now, this is a Persian people.

It's like when we come out of the closet, you know, as gays. It's our journey as gays. And like the second you come out of the closet, you're a girl. That is so gay. It's like everything's like gay all the time, you know? I think he's having that for Persian. Yeah. Well, like the first time you drink and then like after that,

like I'm talking about it, it's like, oh my god, you know, I love beer. Don't you love beer? Guys, let's get drunk. I'm a so wasted, wasted chicken. Yeah love beer. Don't you love beer? Guys, let's get drunk. I'm a so wastey, Bayy-stay chicken. Yeah, it's kind of like this. It makes me kind of sad because he's just trying to use that to have the one thing that keeps him bonded with people. And I'm like, oh, you're still shooting scenes alone,

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because I start fighting and the teacher goes stop okay go again stop I guess it's just the weird noise you make during the fight again the heat of the in the heat of the the passion so Nemo's like he's wearing a clone it's overpowering me which I think is a fair point. That's a fair point Because let's be fair. He did not beat me up in order to the thorn me He used his hairy body and his musky hand He's like that gag reflexes no joke like I actually literally gagged me but his hand in my face So guess what they're talking about I spoke to Reza we had a screaming match bro a

Screaming match when I told him so Nima says you know when Reza claims that me and Mike and Turvin are meddling with self-interest all this screams to me is that my marriage is falling apart And I'm going to blame anyone and everyone around me which I actually think is pretty true Yeah And Turvins like he's just associated, Bill. So they've decided that Fresis just really, really hurt. He is probably really hurt, but he's also probably, well, he's, I think Resa is hurt and not acknowledging it. And then when he does, but then when he does sort of like play up that he's hurt, he's like, it's, it's, it's inauthentic. If

that makes sense, like I think he's like acting hurt about the wrong play up that he's hurt. He's like, it's inauthentic if that makes sense. Like I think he's like acting hurt about the wrong things, but he's hurt about other, whatever. So anyway, we then have Mike showing up at his parents house. And he has like a bunch of flowers from Ralph's that he's put into, well looks to be like a trophy. Like he like found a trophy on the side of the road. And he's like, yeah, this would be a vase.

This would be a vase for my mom, Sue. So he brought these, this flower arrangement over to his mom. And he like sits, yeah, this would be this would be a vase. This would be a vase for my mom's suit. So he brought these This flower arrangement over to his mom and he like sits down in their living room with his mom and his dad And he's like, yeah, Paulina like Paulina's the new way or she I'm gonna go see Paulina later. Hey, what do you guys think about Paulina and Sue's like? she She She looks like a very good girl He's like, yeah, well, it's my first time dating a person girl. Quiet.

It's my first time dating a Jewish girl. Quiet. It's a person Jewish girl. Quiet. She has two legs. Quiet. Yeah. And he's like, my parents don't feel like I'm capable of being in a long-term relationship.

I'm like, yeah, I love that your parents are the only parents on TV. They're not quiet because they want to call the girl a slut. They're quiet because they want to say you're not worthy of it. And they're talking about you now. They're like, don't be mean to Mike. Also, when was this shot?

Because it's only episode nine of the season, but it feels like they're already like, uh-oh. Yeah. What do we do? Let's get some weird shots with Mike's parents, just saying the same thing that they've said a million times a season, because it seemed like this was shot before all the other stuff, but I don't know. It's probably possible.

So as soon as Mike don't rush into anything because when you are hurt, all of us are hurt, which may sound like that I'm being empathizing with your pain, but it's more like when you're hurt we have to pay you more money so yeah please stop when you're hurt you do more cocaine which comes out of our bank account so please be less hurt okay so enough about this Paulette girl you're talking about Paulina whatever what about the project what's going on with the project? And Mike's like, oh, the project is wonderful. And we cut to the footage of the lot and just still

in the same state of just sadness. It's trash everywhere. And they're playing clown music. And she's like, oh, I have an idea, Mike. Maybe you can sell it and get out of it. Okay, sell the permits in the plant and just get out of it. Okay, here's an idea. Mike, I think that you and I, we go, let's go get some like ice cream and maybe in an ice cream cone, we can take a nice walk and think about the old times, sell the building, maybe buy some new

clothes, something like that, make sure the permits are sold, collect that two million dollars. I don't know, maybe go to Ralph's. I don't know. her mates are sold like that two million dollars. I don't know, maybe go to Ralph's, I don't know. Sal, Sal, sell the project. And he's like, Pat, why would I, the land was a million? Why just make one million when we can make five or six and feel our family, you know, feel our families

as long as we're alive? And she's like, oh my God. So here we go again. The mom's like, you're getting yourself and there's so much work. And she's like, my get a second opinion, okay? Yeah. And he's like, okay, well, if they say that it's worth more than three million now,

then at least all know, it's gonna be good to know. Yeah. I mean, listen, Mike has a point. I mean, as long as he puts in the work and he develops that property, I mean, he can make a lot of money assuming nothing terrible happens like a global pandemic that was shut down the economy.

I'm sure everything will be fine. Oh god. So MJ and Tommy and their assistant go to an office and they're like running the baby cart and the staff for without Santa. Very. It's a very narrow waiting room. It was like very New York City, you know, like this is Los Angeles. Most waiting rooms are the sides of football fields. I don't know why I'm assuming the waiting room, but it just felt like it was something that's on my chest.

So they're waiting, they're going to go see a therapist. And so Tommy goes, there's a bunch of names on the wall of other people, I guess, we're using the office space and he goes, okay, which broad is it? Which broad am I seeing here today, huh? Huh? Dr. Broad. Yeah. Karen McKinney, she seems like a pretty good broad.

Listen to it, sorry. So he's got, he goes into what his deal is. And he's, he's basically saying that his mom passed away when he was a kid. And so it traumatized him seeing his wife almost died. And almost died and almost die. And she wakes up and she's cracking jokes and she's back to herself immediately

because she was asleep during all the trauma. You know, she doesn't remember all the trauma, but he's still totally traumatized. Yeah, exactly. And Tommy feels like MJ doesn't understand what he went through and everything. And the therapist, do you feel like there's anger? That comes up and goes,

for sure! For sure! But they agree. therapist like, do you feel like there's anger that comes up and goes, for sure, for sure. But they, they, they agree they like learn some terms for how to speak to each other. So that way they can process these things. Yeah. Um, I'm kind of reading through this thing. If there's anything else, it was sort of like set. It was like, it was very emotional actually. Like we're like, there wasn't much that was funny because it was like real trauma.

Like you could see he's crying there. He did this last season, I think it was when he talked about his mom and he really kind of broke down. And he was sort of, he's breaking down, he broke down last episode and now he's breaking down here. So he really does carry a lot of pain with him, which is actually like, to me it was actually pretty compelling to watch. I prefer his Instagram persona where he's just like,

that hillbilly whoop, Hollywood, West Hollywood, the hillbilly whoop, West Hollywood, ah. Going Adam, going after Resa. And saying that Resa was bankrupt and that the reason, the reason that he can't divorce Adam is because he put in Adam's everything and Adam's name to avoid bankruptcy. So now he's stuck with Adam no matter what and that's why he's pretending that everything's working out but Adam's just a whore and they cheat on each other and hate each other but

they have to stay married. I mean it's very good. It's very good Instagram novel. By the way, I'm not saying any of this and don't sue me. I just think what I read on the insta. Yeah, you're not saying it's not so true. This is just what add this is what Yeah, Tommy is claiming So Reza is with Adam and yeah, they're at the Mercedes dealership and I cannot believe we're here to get a card It's not for me. Well, I'm not bankrupt at all as evidence by the fact that here I am buying a Mercedes for someone else because I have lots of money

Hello, sir. My name is Adam I would like to put my name in social security number on this car Thank you very much now Does this car come with any precious gemstones that Adam might break by accident? No, great, Adam, you can come out of the car and you can jump into the set and go sitting in this one. Adam's like, I just wanted to see if that rock would bounce off the windshield. Sorry, I cracked it.

So they sit in a G wagon and this comes with AMG and I was like, ooh, this comes with AMG and Adams like, yeah, but honey, like, but would you be even taking advantage of the AMG aspect? You don't even know what that is, honey. Be quiet. Here's a lollipop. So Reza is having a rough season. He looks like a total jackass and I don't know what happened between last episode and this episode. But Reza has just apparently learned that everyone hates him. Nobody's on his side with any of this production he says asks

And nobody is gonna choose him over MJ So he's coming into this episode like okay, I'm going to do whatever I can't I'm gonna buy my mom something I'm gonna buy my mom a car because what says a good person like that and then I'm gonna cry about what a victim I am and that should that should sew it up for the season Yeah, so he's even turning this this stupid scene into a victimization moment He's like I used to go shopping with Mike But with all the bullshit in Arizona and Mike going to Vita's retirement party I blocked Mike and Neema on my phone and on Twitter and Instagram

So now I have to only go do this with my husband. Not Mike. I'm like, you're the one who did all that shit. You can just unblock him. Don't act like you're the victim here. You did it. Okay, so then Mike goes over to his development project and it's like the San Fridin San sat basically.

And Mike's like, it's a breathing and he's like, oh, the smell of money. Yeah, then he goes, I'm like, well, that only does the taste of money, but fine. So there's also this like music playing that's going like, I like to wake up, make money, get turned. I was like, three things that I don't think Mike

really ever does. So he's like, this is really hard. You know, I wish I had my best friend here to help me, but unfortunately, friends does mad at me because I don't hate MJ enough for his Richter scale of hatred. So then back to Resta, he's like, Oh, point me, look at me, seeking a class.

Oh, look, that is a make class on that truck. Run across that and go, go, go. I'm just a sad victim, buying a Mercedes from the middle of the street in Van Nars. So, back to Mike, he's talking to a real estate guy. Yeah, and George. And he's like, my mom is saying that we should sell this if the appraisals over 3 million. And the guy's like, well, here's how we got to the value that we got through.

We did the zero over the two and then looked at the property value of the C. Mike's just like, D. Yeah, it's just like all noise to him. He also says, by the way, he's like, my mom is urging that we sell if the appraisal comes back higher than 3 million, that's the mentality she has. Safe.

I don't like safe, which is why I've been incredibly unsuccessful in my career. Kind of no kidding. If you guys invested a million dollars and you can get two million dollars in profit, are you fucking kidding? Yeah. Of course you do that. You dumb ass. Yeah, he's like a get rich quick version.

So basically Jordan comes back with a number that's 2.2 to 2.5 million. But that's still really good. Yes, yes. They spend less than a million and they're getting doubled their money. That's crazy. Yes, of course. So Jordan's like, so who's going to be the project manager? And Mike's like, I'm head to the get told myself.

And Jordan goes, you are? Wow. Wow. Wow. I mean, I know a hobo down the street who could probably do this, but if you want to do it, fine. Yeah. So then Gigi's in bed in the hospital, and, you know, she's, I don't know, what's, she's

passing. So she's like finishing, like, there was some part of the baby still left behind. Yeah, this actually happened to a friend of mine, and it was, she said it was very scary and very extremely painful, like, it was like the worst thing she ever went through. But yeah, basically, it's like this weird thing. It's kind of, my understanding is it's actually pretty much what GG said in her text. Normally, GG is pretty good for like,

embellishing and overseating things, but essentially like the embryo gets like lodged in the fallopian tube or something like that. But the point is they had to do emergency surgery and take out her fallopian tubes. And this is where we're seeing her, it's right after the surgery. And, you know, she's recovering and her parents are there. And she's saying in the interview, she's like, well, you know, it's

like, you know, this is the irony that like I had, I had unexpected pregnancies and now that I actually want one, I can have one. And, you know, I believe in karma. And this is the karma I get for leading the life that I used to have. And I was like, listen, okay, Gigi's a crazy person. But like why, she doesn't have, like girl, don't beat yourself up about this. This is not karma. That is, and that's also,

I also feel like what a terrible message to send people, that like, I mean, Gigi did leave a mess up life. But I also feel like it kind of bothered me that the karma that you get for having, like, for having unwanted pregnancies is that something like this happens. I was like, no, Gigi, like that's really harsh to put on yourself.

Yeah, it really is, my God. I was like, geez. Yeah, it was really. It's sort of something that's really sad. And then it only makes it better to know that she does get pregnant again. And I think she had her baby, right? I think so. Yeah. That'll probably, that'll probably be like a reveal towards the end of the season, like the happy ending for her storyline. Right. I think Gigi Shaz baby. No, she don't. Yeah. She definitely is pregnant later. So two days ago, she shared an ultrasound photo. Okay. So she said it's almost time. So that's that's good. That makes me feel better. Yeah, because it's super dark and depressing. Yeah.

People should have to feel that way. And it's all about me. Really. It's all about how this makes me feel. Yeah. So, Serving is in the car with Mike driving and he's like, God, everyone is so bipolar lately. Jesus. Like, I haven't talked to Gigi in six months and then I get this text like, how much do I have to pay you to keep my name out of your mouth? Like, what the fuck, bro? Yeah, I don't even understand why Gigi was saying that.

I don't know that Serving was talking about Gigi. I guess, yeah. Well, we don't get much of Serving because he's just friend talking about GG. I guess, yeah. We don't get much of serving because he's just friend of now, but I guess after the, you know, he stayed, the guy stayed friends with her ex-salome and so that ruined their friendship, right? I guess he's a cracking crazy GG. Come on.

Well, there was also that thing where like, like Shervin was with that Australian girl and then like, he had, he did have an affair with the girl from newlyweds the 1st year. Remember that girl? Right. And then like, he denied it and that girl is like, like, I think it's GG's best friend or something like, it is a whole stupid fallout about a really stupid situation. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Another one where it's like, oh, it's so bad to talk about your friends who are cheating on their spouses when Reza helped out that whole thing. Yeah, as well. Of course, we're serving. Oh, she's just always, just always lovely when you start thinking about the past on this show. Yeah. So basically, Mike is telling him about the pregnancy complications and how she had to have Mike's like, well, she's having pregnancy complications and serving us with what sperm? Like, where's she even get the sperm? And Mike's like, you can buy the sperm, bro.

Like, you can just buy it. But then she says she put the sperm in her and then it started growing in the wrong place. And then before she do it, she had like a transformer baby like growing in a wrong place. And it's like, she doesn't even know where it is. It's like, what, you know, where is it now it now you know so then they had to move the baby like I don't know bro and I was like don't move the baby now like let me be the project manager and then we can sell the baby for like six million dollars maybe your old philopeon tube will be worth five million dollars more if I move the baby temporarily so it's like they're trying to figure out women's biology

and it's hilarious. It sounds like us trying to find out what a vagina does. Like several episodes of Watch For Crappens. So the vagina, that is where you breathe from, right? So now we go over to Gigi's condo and she's like at home smoking weed and she's having people over. It's sort of like people are seeing her

for the first time since this all happened. So Neema comes over and so does Destiny. And of course Destiny is being super extra. She's wearing a nurse costume, which is just like really annoying. And she gives Gigi like a purple mardi Gras mask and a hat and a boa and prunes. She's like, I got you babe, I got you babe.

I'm like, you're a lot right now. For somebody who goes for a couple. Your nurse brought you a lot, babe. And Gigi goes, who's the nurse rose being her assistant? She's like, yeah. Oh, I thought she said, are you nurse rose? Cause her name is Destiny Rose. Oh, I thought she said is the nurse rose.

So I wrote down, I was like, wow, what a bitchy way to accept a gift, I love it. So then Mike and Shervin are still driving and they're talking about Reza of course and Mike's like I can't believe he blocked us bro and Shervin's like geez we're just going to be this party like what we're supposed to do bro to be fair I don't think that Mike and Shervin have that compelling content on their IG that anyone would really want to not block them, you know. It's just so, Resa, like, you're a black dude.

Exactly. Like you're 50. Yeah. So, uh, Mike's like, Will Rizz, uh, Resa throws tantrums and he takes his toys and leaves the sandbox and never wants to talk to you again. He blocks you on Instagram, he shit talks you to other people, and he told Resa that he loved him, bro. And Resa said, oh me who's done so much for you. And Mike is basically saying, like, look, Resa has done some real shitty things to me before,

and I've learned to forgive him. And like he needs to learn that too. And that, you know, I've been in this group long enough to know that if you don't stop something like this in his tracks, it's going to gain traction and snowball and become way, way, way worse. So, you know, we just have to confront this head on. Yes. So then MJ and Tommy are going to meet with their lawyer, Tommy's lawyer and MJ is like,

she's a badass. Yeah. And she does look like a badass. I It's like okay. I'll do whatever you tell me I know I know so Tommy so Tommy's like you know mj anytime any person comes over you pull out an entire but think but I'm here you only put out hands hands. I'm like these days that would be considered like a five star Spread in America. Do you think the man's eyes are be like wow they went out they showed their hand sanitizer.

And MJ is like all right I'll do a sharkootery so she just goes in and starts just dumping shit all over a sharkootery tray. And I'm like actually that works. It actually looked amazing and on a week where we've had a lot of Sharkootary trade issues She kind of just like pulled it out perfectly everyone take notes on Bravo take notes So she explains the cases against Tommy. She's got one He's got one which is vandalism and that's a criminal charge and then reservoir the restraining order And so that is a simple civil case. Yeah, and MJ, you know, the fact that Tommy has the higher in attorney is ridiculous. Resa has done more damage to my condo when he painted my brand new sofa, which I totally

forgot about. And then they showed the footage. And I seems to remember that we were both quite outraged by that because who paints someone else's sofa? That was so obnoxious. Yeah. And Tommy's like, I mean, come on, he is not that hard. I write stuff to JFK, he's asking me, too, man. And then GGs, everybody, of course, Rhesa's last to get this big cast meeting over there. So GGs has been like, all right, we had a cast meeting at Rhesa's last week.

This weekend, we're gonna have it at my house because obviously everyone's not just falling in my with Raza. Right. And she's like, I just want everyone to know that, like, you know, what I just went through, it should be a reminder that like all this stuff that we're arguing about is so minute, you know?

And so she tells the whole story about her complications, which is very scary and, you know, very intense. And of course, Destiny is crying because, of course, you know, the thing is- And also, of course, she's because of course you know and also of course she's trying to tell everybody about this atopic pregnancy it's fucking horrible and whereas it's like hello everyone like blowing kisses over her head yeah walking around and making it all about him and making sure she sees that

he's putting a cake right in front of her and then rubbing her leg it's not about you for two seconds, dude. Yeah, so as she tells this whole story, which is, again, very serious, and again, she's saying that this is her karma, which I don't agree with, even though she is a mess. And she's like, you know, it's terrible. Like, Shervin, you're one of the closest people to me,

and I'm being rolled into surgery, and it sucks that you weren't there, you know? And he's like, oh, I'm sorry, jeez. And then Nima is like, Nima is so like marketing, like a marketing, I don't wanna say official, not a marketing exact. He's like, listen, jeez, I commend you for sharing with all of us.

That was really a, that was a game-changing moment for you and I applaud you. And I want you, what I want you to do from this is expand your brand into more empathy. That was really wonderful and I truly commend you for that. And he's like, listen, we're invested in both of you and we want to see two friends come together, right, Raza? Mike's like, right, he's like watching you guys deteriorate, it's really affected me. Okay, it's affected me massively. And Mike's like, right, I'll die. He's like watching watching you guys deteriorate. It's really affected me. Okay, it's affected me massively. And Mike said, yeah, we're getting blocked on

Instagram because we're not choosing sides. And we're just like, if you had any passion in your heart, you would be looking at it from the opposite angle. And he's like, you're the one who drew the line of the sand, when you said her me and rest is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no and he's like, every time I talk to one of you, I feel 10 times worse. And I had to take a moment and think to myself, their intentions may be pure, but I can't talk to them. If I want to get a better place with MJ, which I definitely want to do, of course, I need to not hear the noise.

Ah. And I like that Mike stays strong because he's seen this a million times. Yeah. He's also had it used against him a million times. Yeah, so he's like what do you want me to do? Reser hold you and like rock you back and forth I was in a dark place. I was I mean technically I was in my Mercedes and I was like I know I could lighten this up pink party bus lights My husband was devastated. We started talking about divorced and moment the accusations came up

Wow, I'm a real victim here everyone. And Mike's like, um, you're making it like no one has sympathy for you. You know, MJ was sitting in front of me crying, and I was like, you fucked up, okay? And then I told her if I see Aliya Shory running through the streets, I'm gonna fuck him up. I did all of that, okay? Not because of me, he didn't do anything to me. I did it for you, because I took your side. side and he's like I don't even care about details I needed my friends to give me a hug and tell me they understand where I am coming

from yeah please give me a break yeah oh by the way and also by the way Mike Mike saying he's gonna beat up Aliya sure if you see him in the streets you were literally sitting next to him at every Vita's party last episode. So then, yeah, and then, and then, as it goes, I just need my friends to say, how much pain you must be in MJ, your dear friend of 30 years, how much pain! And Mike is like, this I cannot, I cannot, I cannot, I cannot. I was like, thank you, Mike, for not falling for it for the 50 millionth time, long lasts.

And she's like, listen, we cannot talk over each other. Now, somebody wants to stab another person, that's acceptable here, but not this yelling, I can't with this. And he's like, to say you have supported me in our relationship, listen, I've done the same as you. You're both, I don't know how you can say Reza has supported you in your friendship. He's fucked you over at every single turn. He is the one who went out with Jessica to talk about how you cheated her.

That's right. I mean, what are we forgetting? Everything come on. And Mike is like, I can remember so many times when I was having troubles. And Reza would tell me what I needed to hear. And now that I've done the same to him from Osmosis from what I've learned from my brother And suddenly I'm the bad guy just because I have a crazy hairline and then going to lose lots of money for my family I'm the bad guy

So but I am talking about my feelings and my emotions and I'm trying to explain how isolated I had a low knife felt. I'm like, oh really, you're isolated and alone. Listen buddy, you probably have an open relationship. You got caught and instead of just saying we have an open relationship at some of your fucking business, you tried to get somebody else kicked off the show and teamed everybody up against them and it didn't work. So stop your fucking victimization. You're not a victim. Yeah, I'm not here for people blocking other people on social media and then complaining that they feel isolated.

That doesn't really work for me, it's one or the other. So Mike is like... And literally threatening people, like, oh, if you're friends with her, basically you're not going to be on this show. Yeah. Like, that's what you were doing to somebody else who was already stuck in a hospital for God knows how long, you know, and isolated. You totally isolated her from all of her friends.

Fuck you, dude. Yeah, and then Mike is like, you know, when you say it was like, you're basically saying it's me or her, like, how are we supposed to act and res it? So now Reza is trying to play the nice guy. Like, he's like, good cop, bad cop, and right now he's good cop. And he's like, it's not even your fault. I was never mad at you guys. I was mad at Destiny.

What? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. No. I was, I was mad at you guys. I was mad at destiny. What oh wait wait wait no, I was I was mad at Gigi What no no no no I was mad at Shervin I just feel like I get irrational when I feel the attack and I'm alone and isolated and I'm a very accountable person. Oh, yeah. He's like, and he says, I said a disgusting and vile thing because I was so hurt. So here's my question. He's basically saying, he's asking, he's basically requesting grace, right?

He's basically saying, can you give me, I was hurt and I want you guys to empathize that I did something vile, but it was because I was hurt and I want you guys empathize that I did something vile But it was because I was hurt and I want you guys to understand like may I have your grace, right? So why is he if everything he says about MJ is true? Why is he unable to extend the same thing to MJ that he's asking for from his friends? Do you know what I'm saying? Well, it looks like now he's gonna have to it looks like now He's gonna have to suck up because he tried to get her kicked off. That didn't work.

She really negotiated her contract or whatever and she's back on the show, whether she's shooting alone or not. So now he has to actually go back and fucking talk to MJ and try to make this work. But yeah, because it's like, if he's basically saying, everything I did terrible things,

but it was because I was hurt. So therefore, like we should be able to move past. If now that we acknowledge that we can move past this, why would he not be able to say, well, MJ did something terrible. She tried to ruin my marriage, but maybe she was also hurting. And therefore, the understanding that I have a request from my friends, maybe I should also apply that towards MJ, who is also probably equally hurting. And it's just not there.

And that's what drives me nuts. Well, just to say his, just to play devil's advocate, literally, probably because MJ won't take any responsibility. Like he's saying, okay, I said disgusting things. I got it, but she hasn't admitted to saying anything, which she did to them, privately, at Vita's party. She's like, okay, I did know that he was going to talk about this stuff, but only about the naked

jenga, that's it, or whatever. So I guess that's why in his mind, but anyway, the guys are a piece of crap. So then Resa was like, I just want to apologize to everyone for putting you in a position for having to pick between two people. One one a poor man who lost his way and One a monster who we should all hate. Can we all be against MJ again? Can we I didn't mean to do this Yeah, so then back to MJ and Tommy talking to their lawyer Tommy's like if friends are the size he wants to drop the charges She's like well the restraining order is in his hand

So if he drops that then it's dropped and MJ's like he needs to come to his senses Which I don't know I don't know about that and she's like but on the criminal side of things It's up to the judge you're at the judges mercy Yeah, and so the question is is this can be a misdemeanor or a felony and if it's over four hundred dollars of damage It becomes a felony and you know know that Reza's gonna claim that those pots were antiques that all cost the $900. Yeah, even though we've seen

that there are plastic little pots with cactus on them. I know, MJ goes, all of this mess could have been avoided if Reza didn't call the cops over broken pottery. I'm like, yes, or if Tommy didn't go over there with a bat and destroy the pottery in the first place. I know. And they're just ridiculous. Both of them are ridiculous. I'm more anti-reza in this one. Me too. I mean, I'd for sure, but they're both fucking ridiculous. Yeah, like I agree. I agree. I don't think that

resa should have called the cops. I do think it's scary though, for someone to show up with a bat at your home and knowing that you weren't there, say, beat up the plants, like, what if I were home? That is scary, but I could even understand the restraining order, but I don't think I would press a felony charge because he came and beat up my pots.

I'd basically be like, bitch, pay me back, you know, $200. It's like getting new pots, you know? And we're never talking again. No, no, no, I probably would. You think he'd call the cops? Yeah, hell yeah. I mean, he was calling him to come over to his house thinking that they were there.

Like, he's driving on the way over there, going, whether you mother fucker. Reth is like, shut up bitch and hung up on him. And he just jumps out of his car. You know, he's like right there with the bat coming for you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I think I would call cops about like the restraining order. Like, I feel like I would be...

Um... I would be... I would... I would, that's what I was saying. I would feel threatened by that. Uh, I don't know if the... I don't still know what I would do in that situation though. It's always easy to say as a spectator, but when it happens to you, I can imagine being scared enough. Yeah, I don't know if the I don't know what I would do in that situation though It's always easy to say as a spectator, but when it happens to you I can imagine being scared enough. Yeah, I don't know. I love Tommy

He's my favorite one on the show, but yeah, you can't really show up at people's house with that You can't do that. No, yeah That's like a pretty clear line written in the sand by old Gov. Minto So Mike's like well, you know, uh, we we all stepped out of our normal our norm. So let's hug. Yeah. What does that mean? So then rest is like, oh, make it's just making fun of me. He's like, I'm not bra. I'm not let's hug. So they all hug and rest is like I never need to put on colon again. He goes no Now I know that I can I have to go apologize so we can build a new friendship from ground zero. So now he's gonna start playing the role of the guy

who is being the bigger person. He's gonna start playing that role, and when MJ is gonna be like, fuck you, no, he could be like, I tried, I tried. Yeah. Classic Reza. Yep, classic Reza, classic Shaz. But another good episode that got me very fired up as usual.

I don't know what happened with that case. I don't know if Reza continued to press charges. I feel like, I guess we'll find out. I'm not even going to prognosticate. I'm just going to go for the ride, Ronnie. Well, Tommy still seems pretty pissed. Yeah, I would say so. I would say so.

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