Watch What Crappens - Southern Charm: Spare the A-rod and Spoil the Manchild

Episode Date: January 30, 2021

The Southern Charm reunion comes in hot, and we're here to recap it. First there are allegations of Madison sleeping with an ex-MLBer (internet rumors say it's A-Rod, but Ben is holding out for Darryl Strawberry). Then there's talk of Cameran, Shep's apology tour, and Craig's pillows. It all climaxes around with Kathryn bouncing in her chair like a rag doll. It's infuriating and hilarious - just what we expect from Bravo.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watcher Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker, also of the Game Brain podcast. If you like board games, check it out.

And joining me is a wonderful, lovely man. His name is Ronnie Karim. What's up Ronnie? Well, how are you? I'm doing just, well, thank you. It's, it's a rainy. New hat. New hat,'s raining. New hat. New hat, new hat.

New hand. Burn my hand pretty bad last night while I was making a chicken pot pie. Should've known better. Should've known better. I have a feeling I'll probably discuss it at length in our bonus episode, which we haven't recorded quite yet. But those of you who want to find out about it,

the pot pie, not so much my burnt hand. But maybe a little bit of both. Who knows? But today we're here to talk Southern Charm. Anything we have to discuss at the top of the show, Ronnie, or should we just get into it? No, that's it. Let's just get right into it.

We can just get this. We got nothing left. We can just get this. We can just get this. We can just get this. We can just get this. We can just get this. We can just get this. need a little horror show music for the beginning of this one. Listen, I think that everyone on this show knows a very good cook dealer in New York, because these guys showed up strong out.

Except for Pringle, who was pretty much just like the old drunk guy you see at the bus stop you know we were like is that does that kind of need a dollar or is that like my uncle you know well he had two bourbons beforehand didn't you know that mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm Yeah, it was, it was quite the reunion. I mean, I was cracking up just because of all the lunacy happening and just also the double standards are just so outrageous on this show. I just don't, you know, it was the only kind they have in Charleston, Hany. I know. It gets me mad and then I realize why, why am I getting mad? Why am I putting myself in this space? You should actually see the dark comedy in this

because it's just too ridiculous. I mean, I will get myself mad again as we recap. I'm sure. I wasn't mad. I was not mad at all. I was just cracking up at the whole thing. Especially Craig showing up as Jackie Green, the old comic from the Catskills.

What the hell? Like, I know you guys have a different style over there, but, do. And then he was like sitting back like he's Bill Gates now. Like the whole time he was doing that lean back in the chair with his legs crossed. Like, yes, I will answer your question about solving, you know, world crises

with my billions of dollars, Andy. I'm like, Craig, congrats on the pillows. Okay, but calm it down, Craig. Yeah, Craig and Chef looked a little worse for wear at this reunion. I don't know what happened. I mean, you know, like I understand quarantine is a real deal and so, you know,

haircuts are not coming as easily to most of us. But this was just like things went awry. Things went aw went around things went awry and the style department for those guys this this this again So we open with Pringle getting his beard combed and laced and then Madison is talking about My outfit is it's bow today and And chef is like I saw she asked him

Danning is in gold. It's insane. My ankles are naturally that color. It's insane right now that you've seen that about me. Wait, Ronnie, I think we should address one thing. Because I feel like people are gonna kill us if we don't address it,

that there's some really uninteresting love triangle happening with Madison and Kristen Cavalari and Jay Cutler and I guess Austin. Oh yeah, we can talk about that. Sure. Let's just talk about it because people keep adding us about it. I mean, it's amusing. I don't understand why people are so like, everyone's like super intimate.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be like, ew, like, it's stupid. Why are you into that? But I just don't understand the appeal of it. But from what I can gather, Kristen Cavallari broke up with Jay Cutler and because everyone, they were such a forever couple. And when they broke up,

then Austin and Craig went to Nashville or something. And then they partied with Kristen and that guy who I think is her hairdresser, it's her gay or something. And they did this like IG where they sang Taylor Swift. And everyone went nuts about it. I didn't understand why, because it was just them singing, but they went nuts about it.

And that was like, because everyone thought that Austin was dating Kristen now. Oh, like, yeah. So they were like, oh, Austin's got Kristen. And then Madison was annoyed. So she did a post at her house with Vanita, where they were dancing around to Taylor Swift. And Madison was riding on Vanita's shoulders.

And then they were making, she said something, oh, don't worry, y'all, we're partying. But my kid, my kid's not here. And I don't worry. We're party but my kid my kids not here And I don't think I can say the same for for Christine. Oh She didn't know that party and several like oh my god She just called Christian a bad mother So everybody was like piling on Madison for mommy shame English is very big and bravo for the past year It's so fun. You don't mommy shamed.

Don't. Yeah, you don't shave the mommy layers. Okay, oh, that would make sense. The only people that are allowed to shame are actual mommy's, okay? And I've got one I can vouch for that. Well, that makes sense because I just did not understand why everyone was going so nuts about like, look, Christian Cavalarides on Austin's shoulders and they're spinning. I was like, I don't really, like, I don't get it. Like, I don't understand why this is a scandal. But now

seeing that there was a Madison response, that, that illuminates it a little bit. Yes. So, um, on what happened, Slive, Andy asked Austin, I know, Andy asked a Madison about it. And she said, I don't know about his Instagram. I'm too busy having my own adventures. And so then she did her Instagram thing. So everyone's like, oh my God, she mommy shamed and blah, blah, blah. So then if anyone deserves mommy's shame, it's Kristen Cavalry, by the way. I'm not going to get into it.

But if anyone deserves it, especially these days, it's Kristen Cavalari. Sorry, I mean, listen, I love me some Kristen Cavalari from Laguna Beach, like she was my jam, but she should be a mom, she seemed a little bit. Yeah, so there were, I mean, I don't know, I don't keep up with Kristen, I don't really know. All I know is she's the one from the hills, she was always like, why is everybody being so beat the big?

So that's pretty much all I know about her. And then I tried watching her show one time, just because it was one of those shows that came on Bravo for some reason. You know, how sometimes they show ease shows. I guess it was on E. I don't know for whatever reason it was on my TV. And I watched it. And he was like, you go to the store too much. You are constantly working and she's like, I have a business too. I am allowed to work too. And he's like, but it is so much. I don't really see who's like, who watches this?

This is terrible. It was so bad. I mean, basically if a big tam could throw football, it's J Cutler, right? And then you have like Kristen Cavallari who like, you know, you know, all I've got to say is before coronavirus Ronnie and I were on a plane

and After that plane ride we were contacted by the Department of Health because someone didn't vaccinate their children and there was a measles outbreak on that plane It made national news. This is before coronavirus totally totally one-up to our little our little measles outbreak on that plane. It made national news. This is before coronavirus totally one-up to our little measles outbreak story. So I'm just saying, Kristen, you know, I'm like, you know, so. She's anti-vaxxer. Yeah, she is.

I was trying to be delicate and not say it. I was like, okay, but not, of course, I can't help myself. She's saying I can't help myself. She's anti-vaxxer. And also in that video, in the original video, like you said, her hairdresser friend Justin, I think his name is like girl, like taking off his shirt. And this guy is like a Botox disaster, okay.

I can handle. He just, like I think I'm used to seeing it on housewives and I'm still just not used to seeing it that much. I mean that much on guys, but he looks crazy. So then they did this video. So then Kristen and Jay posted an Instagram and it said, the world is full of users. This is what he posted. The world is full of users.

10 years. Can't break that. Well, you can break it because you guys broke up stupid. So that post doesn't make any sense. And it was obviously aimed at Madison, right? Right. Because of her retaliatory video. So she wrote under it. I told you it would all work out, but she didn't say work out. She put like workout, like the show workout. And then she put a laffy face. Exactly. So we're gonna bring in Jackie into this. Jackie what's her face? Powerless. Yeah. But the other thing was that, wasn't it that, um, J. Cutler, when, so when, when Austin was

with Kristen, J. went and like, uh, had sex with Madison, right? Isn't that the rumor? Supposedly that they were hooking up. Right. And then, yeah, but, but, but, but now, yeah, but now now Jay and Kristen are sort of back together or whatever and Madison's like you said It's like it's like an homework set. So it's a whole scandal that Well, she said she posted a video with a stain on her shirt and she says well looks me like I'm gonna have to drop some Receipts hate to do it, but like you do not hate to do it

Madison like Madison is the biggest thirst bomb, okay. But also, Sour J and Kristen, both of them. Like they're all trying to like, cloud chase each other's cloud, and it's small cloud. You know, small cloud, let's face it, guys. It's like fishing in a fishing farm, you know, where there's already rainbow trout in the pond, put there for you to be caught.

You know, it's just small fish. You know, I mean, Madison is actually really smart because she is so thirsty. And normally I feel like I would be coming down on her so much, but it's always in the context of Austin. And I don't know, like to me, like I'm just, like, she's thirsty, but then I also, then I see Austin

and I think to myself, God, I understand why she does the thing she does because Austin is just insufferable. He's so insufferable. It was fighting over mediocrity. Yesterday, I had nothing to watch us checking out HGTV, the app, where you can watch the demand. And I was watching this show called Tiny Luxury Homes. Is that an awesome thing?

I was like, I can't watch this. You know, I made it through about 20 minutes and I'm like, you guys, it's a trailer. Stop, they're acting like, oh my God, this is my dream, honey. I'm like, it's a trailer. That was your dream, like dream, higher. And that's how I feel with this whole thing.

You're fighting over Austin. It's like he's a tiny home. You know, Austin is a luxury tiny home. That's like, I think that's a very, very, that's accurate. That's even the way he's doing. So then her receipts, her receipts that she wanted to post,

she posted on her Instagram stories and then she posted it with a little gift of Kermit drinking tea, you know, Madison's obsessed with my bets right now. Right. So she had of Kermit drinking tea. You know, Madison's obsessed with my bits right now. Right. So she had her Kermit drinking tea and she posted a text conversation that she had with Jay. And first of all, it starts with Jay making the okay symbol. Now the okay symbol, as everyone knows, on Bravo, the okay symbol means okay, right? But in the past year or so, it's eight Chan did this whole thing

where they were trying to make simple statements like that, like the liberals go crazy over these things. And they were labeling it as like a white supremacist thing and it wasn't, but then the white supremacists were like, oh, okay, it's a white supremacist thing, let's use it. So then the white supremacist made it a real thing. I did start using it as that. And the reason I'm bringing that up is because of the whole Kelly Dodd drama that also

happened to this. Oh, geez. Where Kelly was at a, we hadn't talked about this either small detour, but Kelly posted a picture at some party and one of the ladies was making this okay sign and Bravo historian who was just on watch what happens Live last week and as a Bravo commentator. She's a really well-known Bravo commentator of Samantha and she Hosted that and said nice Something like nice a white supremacist sign at your party Kelly and then Kelly went fucking crazy over it and Tried sent all of her minions after this girl Samantha to sign a your party Kelly and then Kelly went fucking crazy over it and tried to send

all of her minions after this girl Samantha but she she tagged her rungs Samantha and so she tried she was trying to get the wrong Samantha fired from her job and all this stuff and then Bravo historian ended up going offline like she took her Instagram down. I mean, it was just a whole mess over this stupid, this stupid okay sign from white supremacist or whatever. Yeah. So anyway, that's a detour on that. So anyway, Jay's text starts with the okay sign, which I'm like, this is so bravo for the right. This is so on-brand for bravo. So she says, what were you coming here for? Because you didn't tell me anything. He's like, to hang out with you. Well, you've got to ask me. Ha ha. I was going to

today. Well, you better ask me because you already booked it. Well, do you want to hang out next weekend? Okay. Do not stress about it. I bought the flight yesterday because it was the last direct one. If it doesn't work out, I can change it to another time. Perfect. So the second screenshot, are you loving? You just brought this up as a quick thing and I'm like Fine, it's fine. Mars will get into it. I mean, let's do it So then there's another one that it starts with her going Why would I do that and he says it was insinuated and my name was also brought into it Which I didn't appreciate

Jack often nothing but respect you into your privacy And I respect you and I respect your family, and I would never say anything to jeopardize you and your family. Well, it didn't seem like that was the case. Maybe it was accidental. I don't know. No one wants to smash. I appreciate you saying that. I think we can all respect each other moving forward at the very least.

I am disgusted by this whole suggestion. You've reached out to me dot dot dot. Your intentions may have not been pure, but that may be you projecting. I've never said anything about you or Kirsten or Norwood I, and I came into this honestly with good intentions, and I want no part of being involved in a payback or drama, but you initiated in pursuit, and if you were interested in something real, you shouldn't have slept with me. Mmm, and then she put it to bottom. I kept my mouth shut until I got cold. Liiiieee. That's classic Madison. I mean, yeah, Madison is very thirsty and I think she's a little slippery with the truth. I think her biggest issue is that she seems to go after guys who are just shrouded in drama. And then she also has her own drama, which I guess is how dramatic people are. They just are drawn to each other. But someone online was like,

Ben, please do not defend Madison again. And I'm like, sorry, I probably will have to. I probably will have to defend Madison because I can't take Austin's side in any of this or anything that happens in this reunion. I'm sorry Sorry, sorry people who are getting that frustrated. This is Bravo. Like we're literally tricked into defending terrible people Every day anyone who watches Bravo, you know, I also just did the Botox friend the Botox friend with the crazy here Went on his Instagrams like y'all I do not like being involved stuff like this Yes, but I'm just gonna say right now I'm sticking up for my friend and she's a good person. And blah blah blah.

And I don't want any of this in my real life, okay, but they talk about kids and that's not right. They did not talk about kids. She made some offhand joke. Like Kristen probably had her kid in the house while she was partying or something which like who's parents I mean, maybe I just come from a family where my parents party to every night while I was I don't get why that was like you're a terrible mother, but anyway, so he like has his whole thing like I don't even want to be involved in this except I've been now. I'm in my own solo Instagram live video except I've been, now I'm in my own solo Instagram live video. This guy, professional hanger on.

I mean, you can just spot them coming a mile away. I don't want to be involved, but I'm gonna do something very like big and to promote, to keep the story going and also to promote my role in it and to advertise the fact that I'm close with Kristen and prove my loyalty to her so that way I can stay close with her

and that way I can appear in more ridiculous Instagram videos. We got your number, we know what you're all about. Justin. Yeah. He says also, as an adult posting private messages from another adult, that's fucking low. That says a lot right there. That says a lot right there.

Well yeah, but he's calling her a liar. By the way, thanks to Buzzfeed News, because that's where I was reading all this stuff from. I don't think I have like my own little Catherine folder that I forgot in my dressing room sitting here with us. You really came with that. I thought, I think I was just be like a thing. Like, yeah, there was like a thing where then,

like, she slept with him and that was him and became a thing. I don't know, but it. Well, I followed it. And even while I was following it as it was going on, I was like, why am I doing this? I could be playing Mario right now and feeling like a more productive member of society.

I literally think that when I burned my hand last night, like really deeply burned it. Like, was massive pain. I still think that was probably more interesting than this entire scandal. I'm being a scandal, I'm being a scandal snob. Now I'm like, ugh, I'm being like yesterday, my friend, Kristen was like, you have to see this guy.

There was a guy, a fellow gay on Twitter who was like, I don't know, like this may be gay sacrilege, but I'd have never watched the house. I was like, I never found it interesting. And then it's like, and then there were all these people, like, yeah, me too, me too, me too. And I was like, oh, wow. Okay, so you're so cool because you don't watch housewives.

That makes you so much value. I'm like, oh, okay, sure. And meanwhile, I feel like I'm doing the same thing about the scandal. If you found joy from the scandal, I totally support you and applaud you. I just didn't think it was a very interesting scandal. If you found joy from the scandal, I totally support you and applaud you. I just didn't think it was a very interesting scandal. I mean, I thought it was fun. It's the time of COVID, you know, like just different shit is fun. I sat through the entire

flight attendant too on HBO Mac. So who am I to judge? So you know, you just get desperate times call for desperate measures people. Yeah. And by the way, girl from the flight attendant, you're not Jennifer Aniston. So stop, stop trying. And by the way, everyone, we do know that Luke is in the flight attendant. Thank you for tweeting at us. Oh my God, he's so hot and he's actually a decent actor for his two lines that he had. I mean, I believe to him as a fuckboy. Go figure. Good job. Yeah, he really, he was able to method. Yeah, method. So this reunion, okay, so, okay, I want to just get something right off my chest, because I don't want to do a rant later on.

I just want to do a real quick rant at the top since we're already doing like a pre-show basically. Here's why I got like a little triggered by it, but not really, not really triggered, but like a annoyed triggered, because there are a lot of people on the internet who have been really mean to Leva. And they basically are like, Leva is so she just yells at everyone, she wags her finger at everyone, which is what Shep says in the beginning. She's so mean, all she does is yell at everyone, all she does is yell at everyone. And honestly, I don't really feel like all she does is yell at everyone. I think

that she had one scene where she yelled at Austin, because Austin interrupted her and was being condescending. And then the next episode, actually, she was snappy with him at the dinner party. But she didn't really yell. She was very frank and she was very straightforward. And she and her friends talked about a situation in an exasperated way, but I don't, in the realm of yelling reality stars, I just didn't think,

I felt like that was people projecting something onto her. So I'm saying that because this episode right out the gate, and we're gonna get into it, was Craig and Austin just railing on Madison, calling her a slut, calling her a trash, just screaming at her. And I'm like, I hope that everyone who was, was so angry at Leva, because she yells so much,

she yells so much. I hope that they're saying that about Craig in Austin too, because I think there's a, like that was the double standard that actually annoyed me because I feel like people just really had their knives out for Leva when you have these two assholes who are doing way more yelling, way more, way more meddling for a way more immature reason. That's my rant. Well, I think that people were annoyed with Leva because she's kind of put in a bad situation, right? It's like, okay, we're in trouble because of racist

tweets. So let's get let's fire up some minorities to come yellow Catherine. That's how it came off, I think to me and a lot of people. And so Leva's kind of put in a situation where her entire season revolves around this. It's like every scene we saw with her, except for the scenes where she was at home with her kid, you know, but pretty much her scenes were about calling Catherine out, you know, it was either helping Catherine on the phone

or when are we gonna call Catherine out? Or, you know, then the conversation with Catherine's friends after the statue thing when she's like, well, you know, we need to stop, baby, Catherine needs to stop being coddled. Catherine needs to be called out. Now the thing is, none of that's wrong. Catherine does need to be called out

and she does not need to be coddled. I don't think that her opinion was wrong at all, but I think that people saw her as it's like, okay, here you are and every time you come into something, it's like, let's have a fight with Catherine or let's be talking about Catherine or blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don't know that that's necessarily her fault as much as it's, you know, it's the fault

of what time we live in. Yeah. What Catherine did, you know, like they have to talk about it on the show. And if she's the one they're having bring it up on the show, because nobody else even bothered to read any of the blogs or anything else didn't know what was going on.

So I don't know. I mean, I do think that Leva, especially towards the end, I was like, okay enough. Just get it. Like get this done because it's like every episode, that's all she got to do in the whole show. But as far as her like yelling with Austin and them, it's like, fuck off, you guys. You know, yelling at a woman's face and all that shit. So, you know, I'm with you for the most part, but I do think that yeah, she did have a storyline that was like all about calling somebody else out the whole time.

It just got old. Yeah, I mean, I understand that that's how people felt, but what I'm saying is, like, I feel like she in their group of friends, like a big, big, big deal that happened where she was like personally offended and was like trying to sort of deal with that all season and like, what are we going to do? How are we going to talk to her about this or Danny? You need to like say something like that she can't be called. This is ridiculous. And to me that just sort of like made sense. And so I just feel like the fact that people feel like all she was doing was waiting to confront

a cat and to take her down. The fact that people feel that they're bringing that emotion to it, that they are seeing it as Leva as a plotter, just planning to have a make it a splash, like that they are imbuing her with some sort of nefarious, I know you're not saying she's nefarious, but it's a just that there's bad intent or almost self-serving intent.

And where I get frustrated is that I just don't see that people bring that to other people on the cast, especially the men who are doing it 10 times worse. And so that's why I got frustrated. Well, also there's the fact that Leva had to keep bringing it up because Catherine never did take responsibility for it. You know, that's the other side of it. Like this, like I say, yeah, it gets boring and it did.

I got bored with it, but also it would have been done had Catherine just admitted what the fuck she did and stopped acting so innocent. Like, I didn't even know who I was talking to in et cetera, et cetera, it could have ended a long time ago if she had just done it too. So, but ultimately, yeah, I didn't even know who I was talking to in a setter, et cetera, could have ended a long time ago if she had just done it too. So, but ultimately, yeah, I don't think it was nefarious, but I do think it got like old by the end,

but you know what, guess what else gets old? Fucking racism. People getting away with shit. That is true. Yeah, no, I just saw a lot of comments that were like, ew, lava, oh, she's so mean. She needs to get alive. She's so mean. I'm like,

well, you better be saying that about Austin too, or Craig or Shepard, like, half these guys that are just like so mean, you know, like, you know, and I know like no one here on this show is really particularly innocent or an angel or wonderful. But I just, that's where I felt a really strong double standard. And I thought it really came to the fore right at the beginning of the show When the two guys were just railing on Madison

I was like I was like okay, so Leva like talking about racism is like ew she's so mean But these guys being like you're trash. You're such trash. I don't want to ever see you again in my life You're trash, but that's not mean Yeah, well the guys on the show are notorious for being trash That's true, you know, and that's why we watch this is this is a show about horrible Ben Let's not forget and we forgot until we saw the first episode again and recapped it at a live show last year two years ago That this show was originally just about men being horrible. I mean, it wasn't really about the women until,

I mean, Catherine's always been a main part of it, obviously, but it wasn't really about a group of women until the last couple of seasons, you know, when they kind of took it over, but it was always about these guys just being fucking pigs. I mean, it was like old guys passing this kid around basically in the beginning. JD. Oh, this is gross. So yeah, um, Chef starts with, we're still backstage and we're like half

an hour into this week. 10 seconds. Sorry, we had a lot on our mind, I guess. Okay. each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud from the buildup, why it happened, and the repercussions. What deserves session with these feud say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows. It's snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and

lover's quarreling and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder ya. Yeah, so uh, Madison's like, well, Catherine's brought Caleb, so they're kissing in the dressing room and then back to Madison. She's like, well, I don't go into this thinking anyone will ever have my back, but if you come for me, you better know this. I will fight. And then Craig's like, I'm not walking off that stage until Madison's crying. She doesn't have a fucking soul so I dashi can even cry. Okay Craig.

And then Shep is telling level, oh level, you just sort of came off as your wiking or fingering everybody. And you know, that's what it is. And this is pretty much everything I just said, which is like, yeah, I won't go back into it because I literally just talked about it for 10 minutes. And then Leva's right there at the door. It's like she's passing by and here's him. And she's like, excuse me, I did not talk shit about you. And he's like, I didn't say you did.

She goes, yeah, I didn't talk shit. And did you say that to Austin? Did you say I talked shit to you? And he's like, Leva, do not pretend you don't talk shit about everybody come on love As she goes oh, you know what she goes you know what why don't you go do something in the bathroom and take care of your nerves Honey, which is an obvious call to coke. Yes, so thank you. Yeah, that was thank you for finally getting it out there, ma'am Yes, exactly. So, so now we now we we sort of see like a little bit of a trailer of what's to come on the on the reunion. And then we have Andy who welcomes everyone. And he's like, Hey everyone, I'm Andy Cohen. Got, got a direction because I see Craig over there

despite his crazy look, he has residual hotness from last reunion. Okay, hi everyone. The Amazon, you revenge buds on fire! It's just getting started, Andy. What does that mean? What are you gonna have like guns that come out of your, like, abdomen? What else are you gonna do to it?

She also looked the same by the way. I mean she always like hot. I mean she looks the same her revenge body is sort of like her regular body. She just and always in a state of revenge Yeah, I'm at the V7 to this bitch soon Andy She's getting started. He's like Pringoingo, do you do anything special to prepare? Oh, I had a couple bourbons, Andy. But, he's just an enigmatic man from the South. Oh, Catherine, we had quite the cliffhanger last season. I'm not allowed to say, well, you lost a lot of weight.

So I'm just gonna say, you don't look weight So I'm just gonna say you don't look pregnant Are you pregnant because you don't look pregnant? Do you want to tell us why you don't look pregnant? Perhaps she's like And everyone starts cracking up because they hadn't seen the season finale obviously We're like what? What again? Come on Like you're doing that again. Like oh guys. oh guys, we had a pretty iffy season. So let's just pretend Catherine might be pregnant again. That always works.

Yeah. Come on guys. So yeah, I get the sense that they were given a bunch of the episodes to watch, like right before shooting and then right before the reunion. And then they were like, let's go party and set. So Catherine's like, yeah, nobody yearn you about it. I missed my cycle for three months. I'm like, is that normal?

Is that good? If you're missing your cycle for three months, should you see a doctor? I mean, I'm not a lady, so I don't know these things. I don't even know what a cycle is. I'm not sure how that is. Would you not using her peloton?

Is that what that means? I don't know. I couldn't find my bicycle for three months months. So I thought I might be pregnant. He's like, we almost had another rabbit. Oh, baby. The capatist one has two Ls. So Austin, Austin, here you're a little bit apprehensive about coming out of here your Austin. He's like, well, my buds forced me to watch the episodes last night. So, you know, I'm pretty shook, Andy. I'm pretty shook. Is that Gondon one, Kermit, told him to watch? So, then Andy's like, Lava, how the restaurants? And she's like, well, we just opened up our latest

restaurant and it's called First Stop, which I thought it was funny, because it's not the first one. Also, I will say this, in case anyone thinks I'm being too much of a level apologist, I do have a ding against a level, which is that I did post on our Instagram a level appreciation post, and then I was like, I'm just going to re-gram something from her from her Instagram, and everything on her Instagram is so annoying. Every picture is like her saying like, got the top thumsara, got the shoes from, you know, Penny Saver, DM me for the looks, whatever. I'm like, okay, Leva, let's not let's not do that. That's annoying. I'm trying to

have that for you. Strike, you know, sell one the iron taught. Yeah. So her restaurants are fine because Charleston has at least kind of opened up. It's more open than New York and Craig and you're the pillow king, which is an awkward week to be called that. And Craig's like, Mel and I'm a pillow prince, you know what I mean? But this is my favorite part of life hanging with you and talking shit about my friends acting like he's just coming off this like the success of a pillow weight like he can't like he's like you know Andy be selling a billion pillows Andy

You know, I'm just glad I can come here and talk shit with you in yeah It's talking like you just walked off a set of shark tank like he's the new shark What's your evaluation? Okay, cool And I like he's like yeah, I love I love getting to talk shit about my friends mask and your trash, your slut, your a whore. I never want to see you again. I hope you start crying right now. He's like, okay, that's like, that's talking shit.

Well, we got a lot of pandemic tweets. You know, people were saying this could be used as a historical account of COVID-19. You know, that nobody taking you seriously and then I'll all getting COVID. So looking back, were you naive about what could happen? Craig, you were notoriously a denier of this. And he's like, well, selfishly, I wanted to deny it, Andy. You know, who wants to live a life walking backwards? You know, keep that shot away from me. That's all I'm saying,

Andy. But I don't want to say too much more because I do have a microch, that's all I'm saying Andy. But I don't wanna say too much more because I do have a microchip that's been implanted in my arm, so. And who in the cast took it seriously? Leva. And Leva talks about basically, you know, having to close down her restaurants and I was really hard and then Danny chimes in

and she's like, poor Danny, I don't know if the air conditioner was on really hard or she I was really hard and then Danny chimes in and she's like poor Danny I don't know if the air conditioner was on really hard or she just was really nervous She's like charlotte charlotte is a food in bed town Andy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Did I say the wrong answer? Bed in food? Bed in food or the food in bed? I'm sorry Well, Captain, you're already a social distancing. I mean you've only hung out with men over the age of 50 since you were a teenager. So was it a relief in a way to just stay at home order and say yeah and also I have social anxiety so it's really nice being able to wear a mask candy. Well you guys think chef just wanted to support his mom or was he just over there for a butler? Well, uh, Chef is a mom as boy, you know, uh, that's what he is.

I'm just gonna have some bourbons because I'm just a cool guy from the South. I'm totally chill guy right now. I'm, I'm Pringle. And then Andy brings up Craig in Austin's Instagram lives during lockdown. And we see some clips. Um, who is your dad and what is he do? Someone asking them if they like cats like a real cat or like the movie. And Andy is like, wow, I was in bed with COVID watching these every single night and I was totally jur- jur- jur- jur- jur-

I was germane jacksing in- off. I was- I was- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- jur- a shot of Craig's couch, which is like just a shitty stained gray couch. And then a million pillows all the same size to promote his pillows on the Instagram live. And it is very like every pillow that's ever been on the Golden Girls. Sorry. Okay. I feel like that look is in now. So there you go. So, so now Andy is like, so Madison madison what do you think what do you think about

these about the interest in the grand lives and corrects like well she used mass you were flying around the country sleeping with married man like x m l b players that's what you were doing locked out you were in an austin's house because that's what you were doing so you were able to see it that's what you slot slot flying flying slot yeah and he's yelling at her like he just flies off the handle for no reason I give you slide you're around the country With me

And I'm like oh really think give me some nine thing give me some Nimes because I can't play the Miami to fucking XMLB player and Danny's like What's XMLB Major League Base baseball Danny. Oh Is that major league bath because we're a food and bath town baseball Danny. Oh, I'm sorry Give me a lot of tiktok testing give me a lot of tiktok test because I never flee to Miami Tell me when I went to Miami. We're so record that You know that you know that Madison's the type that Cause I never flew to Miami. Tell me when I went to Miami. We just recorded that. Judge.

You know that. He's like, I don't give a fuck. You know that Madison's the type that's like, well, I flew to Florida. I never said I flew to Miami, but I flew to Florida before Lauderdale. You know she's gonna, you know she's gonna always hang everything on a,

on a technicality. Yeah, I drove there. And Craig's like, I know exactly what you did. And Andy goes, how? And he's like, she told me, she told me. And Craig's like, I know exactly what you did. And Andy goes, how? And he's like, she told me, she told me. And I was so like, yeah, because you were like bragging to all of this matters. It's the same.

It's the same how you were bragging, Madison. Yeah, do you know what the rumor is? Which baseball player, the social media is saying, Madison, hooked up with? I heard it was A-Rod. Is that what you heard? I heard it was A-Rod, is that what you heard? I heard it was A-Rod also. I don't know if it is, but I wouldn't, I would not mess with J-Lo.

I would not, if that's true, a Madison has some balls. Yeah, well, baseballs. I mean, they said A-Rod and then they should, I saw a couple of Instagram, because this has been a very Madison heavy Instagram week as everybody knows. And then someone posted pictures of her Instagram with him liking a couple of her posts or something But then other people were saying that's just Photoshopped, okay But then when they kept beeping out his name here it was very short, you know, what because they would be like oh really

So well, it sounds like a rod, you know, yeah, weren't coming up with like, it didn't sound like too name. Didn't sound like Jim Edmonds, which made me happy. Although, I'm not even saying this to be a joke. My first thought was, is it Darryl Strawberry? Because he's usually my first like XMLB player who jumps into my head. Well, they didn't have the syllables for that. I think it's probably. Well, they didn't have the syllables for that. I think it's probably. So, Amelie's like, Oh, bleep.

Sorry. He's like, bleep, he is a very famous married MLB player. Oh, that's, um, uh, baseball, we're still talking about baseball, right? Yes, Danny. See, she's trash,

I'm a hate being on the same stage as her. I was like, okay, patty the poem. You just like, yeah, calm it. It's like, I'm on the upstairs of the bone. You just like yeah, calm it. I will not share the stage Yeah, and then by the way, Glenn close yeah Seriously, and okay, let's say it's true. Let's say that Madison did go sleep within XMLB player so

like XMLB player. So like, do we remember that Austin had a threesome when he was dating Madison? Do we remember that Austin went and went after Kristen Cavalari in the first part of this episode? Like, I just feel like I don't know the full context of this rumor or whatever, but they are, it's just it's so double. It's so, it's very ridiculous, as we will see it in the shop segment. Well, supposedly they're so mad because this is when she was dating Austin Still, technically. So Andy's like, just calm down, Craig.

We just started. He's like, sorry Andy. And so Andy asks, this is someone that Madison was DMing. And she's like, well, he contacted me and yes, we deemed. But other than that, there was nothing I've never physically seen him. I've never physically touched him. And I was just like, oh, really? Because you guys face on all the tongue on liar, liar.

Yeah. Well, technically that wasn't a lie. When she said I've never physically seen him. Yeah, when she said I've never physically seen him, I was like, okay, they had FaceTime's axe. That's what that means. Yeah, and Craig's like, well, you messaged him in napkins and tables, and tablescapes.

I saw, I saw liar. Remember when we were at Icedean French fries, I saw it. So, and he's like, Craig, he's like, Craig, we're just like 20 minutes in. Like this calm down. She's bragging about it. That's it. That's her whole life. It's bragging.

It's all she does is brag. Go case she's bragging about it. Meanwhile, Craig is sitting there like you said before, acting like he is the pillow king of the South. Yeah. And Pringle's like, I don't think't think jerking off on FaceTime is cheating anyway. There, I just don't, I don't, there I said it. It feels a little cheesy. Like basically, like, you know what? Basically,

what Amdye is saying is that he enjoyed us on our lives. And because they were various magicians, okay? And there's only one person in the world that's not like it. And that's because she hates when anything good happens in my life. Yeah, that slam was great. Everyone likes our Instagram lives. There's only one person who's insane enough not to like it. And her name rhymes with Fattison, okay? And that's you, with you, Madison's you. I'm like, we can put two people who didn't like your Instagram lives.

We could do that. I know another one. Yeah, me. Yeah. And Andy's like, well, can I be a killer point to that? Because if I was dating you, I would not have blacked it at all. Cricks like, yeah, well, you know what? He tried to call her, but she had her phone off Andy, so

And I said yeah, I get it. I get it. He's suddenly like back pedals now that Andy's like No, you were being a bad boy friend. He's like, yeah, I get it It's it was insane to think that yeah, I get I got it. It's insane right now. Yeah Yeah, and Madison's like trust me. I was not interested in him after that and she's like come on Callie since a gender box. It's a real tender box in here. And Madison goes, oh, you're just mad. He fucked your girlfriend. Relax. Relax. Don't show my dog. Oh my god. And boom goes the dynamite. The glad Pringles here. He's really adding a lot.

I know. So much to give him like a n like an iPad just like he gives to his kids. So, so now we come back and you're a fucking liar. You're a liar Madison. You're a lot, you're a liar. So, you know, the thing about fucking your girlfriend and Craig's like, yeah, but that was before I knew her so who cares And love us like ooh this is some tea. That's all love us at love us at about 10 times in this She's like oh my god want the tea that's some tea. Oh my god. I love hot tea. I think she's just like Promoting the beverage menu at her new restaurant

If her Instagram is any indication she likes to promote things Sponsored a celestial season So Andy's like Madison revealed this piece of info on what it happens I'm and then we see the clip or Madison's like well now I don't think that girls the one because I may also separate with your last summer and that's gonna be a little too close to home You know the main Yeah, and then

So when after the clip Madison's like you're in denial. If you think that wasn't going to come out and crags like, you're a mean about it. You're a you're a, the tone was mean. It was a mean. You was mean-spirited. You were just scott. It's not gonna, you said it's not gonna last. And you said that she's ugly. And she's mean, and that, but you're mean and you're the mean one and you're the one who slept with air. And I'm she's nice. She's pretty. She's pretty girl.

I like her. I mean like Natalie. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, well, you seem to have your thoughts on my relationship. So that's my thoughts on yours. Which good point. Yep.

And he's like, that was a low blow. Madison. And she's like, Oh my God. Come on. That's got to hurt. It's got to hurt you in a sense that he also already also already dated and he's like, look, we are 30. We like having fun. And if we're only gonna date people,

we haven't crossed swords with, we're not gonna have a chance. This a lot of... That's so weird. Wow. Like except the thing is just, so by the way, it's not like Natalie is in Charleston and there's like a limited pool of women in Charleston.

Like, it was an Aspen, right? Or something like that, where it's like... Well, she was from New York Craig. Come on. But yeah, they met in Austin or in Aspen. Yeah. And then Andy's like, yeah, the people, the people the blue people you guys have been with is cool I had a lot like shut up grinder. Okay. Who are you?

What are you talking about like we haven't all fucked the same not mean Andy personally, but like The gay community. It's like you can't it's very hard to go to a gay party where you're like I've hooked that oh You hooked up. Oh Jesus cry. We all hooked up with up with the same people. Well, what are your tests like? We've all been there. Stop judging is what I'm saying. So, um, uh, level, level is like Austin, does it bother you? Does it bother you? And Austin's like, well, at first that was like,

I was like, uh, and cracks like, well, you were dating Madison. So it was fine. It was fine. Um, and then Austin tells this whole story of like, Like, well, you were dating Madison, so it was fine. It was fine. And then Austin tells this whole story of like, I met this girl, I met this girl from New York and I was like, this is a girl I'll never see again. And it's sort of like, drop hop, get it now

cause you'll probably never see it again, right? And then all of a sudden my best friend has to use this girl out of a sea of girls to date and now I have to tell Madison Madison Now it didn't so he's just mad because he had to come clean about cheating. Yeah, basically And isn't awesome the one who introduced her to Craig is that what they said later on Well, yeah, she was hanging out with him. I guess so Craig matter so Craig's like well You should have never told Madison because Madison weaponizes everything you tell her

He's like well, you know what Craig? I didn't like it and you know that and we have a problem about it, but I do not care dance hands dance hands He makes like sixes hands and then Madison says salmon is a good place to get some omega-3 He's just stupid face stupid fat face. See, I told you, she weaponizes every piece of information you give her. I told her about the salmon. And weaponized the lamp information. Well listen, I think it takes a lot for Craig to say that it doesn't bother him.

Like he's being a big person. What? And Andy's like, uh, and he goes, well actually like I've even forgotten this myself, which is super flattering. But I actually met Natalie when I was hosting love connections, you were the contestant. And so we see, oh, no, we don't see the clip actually did not get, clearly didn't, did not get license for that. Yeah, an awesome. Like, well, that's just a little too weird. And Andy says, so that didn't bother you, Madison's like, oh, yeah, picked a real good one there, Craig. And then they all start dising love connection,

which is hilarious. Yeah, and so then, so Craig is like, at the end of the day, Austin introduced us and asked Ben and I was in to her. I'm like, so Austin, that whole like, spiel you did of like, of all the women in the world, this is the one that he has to decide to date. I'm like, you literally introduced her and ask, if she's from New York,

why was she even an ask, like you did this Austin, you did this. And Seps, like, well, she should have told everyone right away and been like, look at this, you know, like, I don't know if she was trying to hide it, you know, talking about love connection. These like, did you know? And Craig's like, well, yeah,, I'm used to googling people.

It's a regular problem. I love that Shep's like it's disgusting. That this woman was on love connection. You still date. I'm a defense of Natalie who is not anywhere to be seen, but it's probably sitting somewhere with her mouth open. Because she's smiling. She... sitting somewhere with her mouth open because she's smiling. Um, she, Oh, I think it's fair that she chose not to divulge.

She was on Love Connection because she's like, oh, I'm like hanging with a bunch of people who are on a TV show. It would probably sound really thirsty. But I said, oh, I was on a TV show too. Like, I think that is actually more thirsty than not leading with that. I don't know. I think what they're alluding to is that she is thirsty and she's just desperate to

be on TV so she went on love connection. You have to be pretty thirsty to go on love connection. That really is the lowest of 12. Let's say okay. Space it. They're saying that she is thirsty for being on that show and then ingratiating herself with this cast makes her like double thirsty. Right. Yeah.

I mean, she's going to be damned if you do damned if you don't. There's probably a smooth way she could have, she could have brought that up. I don't know, but I just thought that was funny. That was like the biggest offense that that Shep saw. So Andy says, so you apparently texted Madison after she said it and said, going to war with me is the dumbest thing you've ever done. And then you sent her an emoji of a swirl, the one swirl emoji that no one knows what to do with what was that about?

It's just my new design for pillow. It's kind of workshopping it and insulting her at the same time It's like well, we've been friends for like 10 years Andy. And I was like, have we known? Halfway no. Yeah, I've had her back. And I was just like, come on. You've been like that. I mean you barely been friends shaking hands, shaking hands. Austin's really into his dance hands in this episode. So Craig's like, it was mean-spirited and it was awful what she did and she's a trash human and I will never speak to her again after tonight. But she's a boy.

And then Leva's like, well, I don't think you have to get that dirty. I think what Craig is saying is like, if you want to go after someone, go after me, I don't think that, and I think Natalie was hurt by it. And I was a little gobsmacked, but we already knew that. And by the way, these shoes are... From Payless.

Thank you everyone. Payless. Payless. Well, you really heard her feelings, Matt, essentially. Oh, well, I apologize for Craig. I mean, because no, you didn't. You know what? I read the fucking text.

Like, you tried to gaslight her. Like, you gaslight Austin. You said, I know Craig's mad at me, goes, no you didn't, you know what? I read the fucking text. Like you tried to gaslight her, like you gaslight Austin. You said, I know Crank's mad at me, but I can't wait to see you, because we're still cool even though you had a threesome. You never said sorry. Yeah. So she's like, you want me to read the, you want me to read the, what I wrote, you want me to read what I wrote? And Crank's like, yes, because you're nuts.

You're a fucking sociopath who has zero feelings for anyone else. Not talking to you anymore until, you anymore until you enjoy the next 10 minutes Because that's the last time I'm ever talking the history of the world So she reads it. It's like gosh, okay, I said I just want to say that I know Craig was upset with me And I've been asked this question in my interviews and I thought it was them things I'm sorry if I'd sit you guys and I'm also sorry I do not just like you at all and I'm sorry and I'd sit you guys, and I'm also sorry I do not just like you at all. And I'm sorry.

And I think you're a nice person, sorry, for the other one or two times I'm at you, sorry. And I know you guys have thought, so my relationship, sorry, and I have the same, but I did not try to hurt me. Well, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, man, he's like, that was 18 apologies. Wow.

What are you talking about? Undeniable amount of apologies. I also like how she just like, you want to read it Andy? You want to read it Andy? Why don't you talking about? Undeniable amount of apologies. I also like how she just like we- You are reading Andy. You are reading Andy. Why are you reading it? So she marches over there and gives him the phone. Yeah, and I could say that wasn't an apology.

I didn't hear apology once, okay. Um, and Andy's like, oh, well, actually, it was three apologies and Leva's like, well, I think what Craig is saying is that she didn't apologize to him. Okay, I love, like, Leva's trying to moderate things, but she's also not getting it right. Like, I hate when people are trying to like sit there

and be the moderator, but they're totally misunderstanding everything. Just be quiet. Okay, it's not about you. Also, I will say that Madison's apology was laced with all sorts of passive aggressive barbs. I think that sort of was not mentioned here. Was that like when she said, like, you know,

you're an ass person from the one or two times I met you, which is kind of like, it's kind of her way of being like, I don't really know you bitch. And then also saying, I know you guys have thoughts on my relationship and I have the same, but I did not try to... I don't know, I like this. She's not a good apologizer, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I mean, she's not. This is not a bomb show. But also, I feel like she doesn't really owe that girl an apology, okay? Thirsty Girl from Love Connection, like comes on and like is with two guys from the cast to get on this show. Like I don't think, if you're dating somebody from this show, I don't think that you're beyond

getting mentioned when somebody asks, well, they didn't ask about her. But listen, if somebody said, if somebody says that you banged Austin publicly, you did bang Austin publicly. So who cares? I think that why does she owe you an apology? You banged Austin. I mean, that was a dumb move. Okay. You know what Madison Madison's big downfall is that you can't help a play games And she does do that all the time and this this was also another example of it like there's little comments She can't just be like oh, sorry. I didn't mean to put you on blast like that. I just was trying to answer the question But she just adds little things little things and it's like that. That's to me her biggest I don't know so far so Andy is reading her phone now because she's marched it over and she's

goes oh and I have a folder for each one of you and she's like oh no I hope I'm not in the folder and Andy's like well you added a couple of apologies to your version of this just now, okay? Because here it only says sorry one time. Christopher, it doesn't matter. It was, we have a slide. She tried to hurt someone for no reason. Oh, some mountains like, uh, what do you think you're doing?

Talking like a, like a, like a trash. And she's like, you're a trash too. You're trash too. You're the one running your mouth Well, I mean she should have told people about the dating show thing and then he's like oh, it's the love connection And it's my show so let's get a little respect please Okay, well, I would have said I was on tea. I was on a failed Fox television game show reboot that no one really asked for but happened anyway That's the first thing that I would say to someone chef. I'm gonna let you speak one more time and you better come correct

Yeah, but of course I'm on TV is the first thing that chefs as you know, so then Andy's like well That seems so spec to you that just girls on my show. And he's like, yeah, basically. And Craig says, well, you know what? For some reason, I felt for her. Like, I hated that she'd been with Austin, but I haven't had this feeling for years, Andy. And I was like, you know what?

Love is love. Love who you love. Love. Just love who you love. Craig. Well, then, you better have some bottles. If you're going to sleep with someone who's sleeping with the cast and quit running your mouth in.

I'm speaking that you're with today. You are, if you call me trash, one more time, one more time. You're trash, you're trash, she's cruel. You threw away 10 years of friendship and I will never speak to you again after today, starting right now. So then we come back from commercial and she's like, you may end, you may end. And Austin's like, can I

throw this pillow at Matt, like he's being playful with the pillow, like can I throw this pillow at Madison? And Shaps, like this is too stressful. And captain's like, you need a jaw like you need a jaw you need a jaw It's like vaping over there. Yeah, captain has been very quiet during all this by the way so So last year chef was a little bit of a lost cause but this year the old Rose is looking at what's for me? Shep you wrote a book tell me about it That's forny, shep! You wrote a book, tell me about it.

Oh god. Well, it's called average expectations, here it is. It's average expectations, lessons in lowering the bar. Someone with stories darn it, they're just insane, Andy, I had to ride them all down. There was this story about the time when I watched all 10 parts of the Vietnam war by Ken Burns over the course of 10 days gosh. So they talk about Shep's life and how Taylor happened so organically, you know, and what really made their relationship work is that she refused to give him a reason to run away. Hmm.

She's clinging. She's clinging. So, uh, Pringles, like, well, also she's faking it. I think she's just faking it because when you just let a man do whatever he wants, of course, they're not going to run away. You know, it's like, I don't, I don't buy it. I'm going to say in two years, she's going to be like, um, excuse me, your ass crack you're showing. It's disgusting. Fuck two years, she's gonna be like, um, excuse me, your ass cracker showing.

It's disgusting. Fuck your pants. Just playing the long game. So Prinkle's like, well, fathers and daughters are rejoicing all over the world. Don't take her for granted, Chef. Don't take her for granted. What you should do is give her an iPad

and then just let her sit there in the corner with it. And then Austin's like, yeah, well, I never thought he'd need a girl that would just let him be shaft. You know, she loves his plumber crack. Like all of his, uh, uh, uh, foibles. Yeah, foibles. Call my friends. Talk about lowing your expectation. Anytime I'm around Austin, lowering my expectations, I'm gonna write that down for part two. Oh, I should write the story about the time that I drank some beer at a bar. Chapter five, oh, it's so good.

So, yeah, Catherine says that shepp is more calm and kind and he's a good listener now. He's more nurturing. I'm like, why are we friends with him beforehand if he was not calm and he wasn't kind and he wasn't a good listener and he wasn't nurturing? What sort of friend was he before? Yeah.

And Danny's like, oh, he's matured since we were together. You know, I just look at them and I think, wow, look, Chef. Chef can finally be a decent person. I seem to be getting a lot of men ready for serious relationships. Good, I could be glad I could be your training wheel chef, thanks. Yeah, that's exactly where I thought she was about to go. Like, I thought she was about to say, oh, well, I thought he had been like this when we were together. Maybe we'd be married by now, but I guess not. So then Andy out of nowhere goes, so, yeah, are you a generous lover? I was

like, whoa, even Shep looked a little like, you know, blindsided by that. even Shep looked a little like, you know, blindsided by that. In the bed? Yes, yeah, no, at the home, the store. Yeah, I think it's I'd like to think so. And love because all I think all men would like to think so. And so he's like, yeah, you know what? In bed, I'm like, whoa, would you like my penis? Wow, you're welcome.

You know, Andy, at lower your expectations. That's what are we soul Taylor Then I wrote a book about it and everyone's like tearing up which I Mean I just don't I'm still not buying it chap sir. I'm sorry So they're they're all like oh my god. He's a new chef and and he's like well Here's the real question shop. Have you been faithful and he's like, well, here's the real question. Shep, that you've been faithful and he's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh these truths for hey haven't you stopped running your math corn hater I was born for corn like me and hey rod so um uh so chef is like well uh there were some garsh text messages and and math is like well don't worry I won't slap she I won't slap she me with that okay is that okay he's like oh okay and well, you know, you made out with her, you know,

and that's just saying, I just say, no, no, I kissed a girl in a stairwell. That's all it was. Just kissed a girl in a stairwell. I think that's all it was. That's cheating. Yeah, and Craig's like, I would break up with you if it was me. He's like, well, I'm glad it wasn't you,

because I wouldn't date you. Ho-ho-ho. So, Shep tells us that this was just He's like, well, I'm glad it wasn't you because I wouldn't date you. So, Chef tells us that this was just some old flame and they had been texting and they made out in a stairwell in the text, but he's like, you know what? And I know that I didn't do anything wrong and I'll go to my grave knowing that that's true. And Austin's like, well, you know what? I think it was a good thing, Chef, that happened because, you know, then you took an honest look at yourself and you realized that Taylor was the one for you. And I was like, yeah, you guys really romanticized cheating. Exactly.

Look at them. Like with Madison, allegedly goes down to Miami. You're a trash. I never wanna talk to you ever again. You're just stupid, stupid face trash trash bag But with with chef well you really learned you learned so much right now It's insane how much you've learned about yourself like that's such bullshit Such bullshit is and Madison's like yeah, they can do it but I can't do it

Let's make that very clear and captain's like yeah, I guess that doesn't make him trash and Let's make that very clear and captain's like, yeah, I guess that doesn't make him trash and So it's like come on. It was a big deal and then they ask if she's been faithful and Pringle asks if Taylor made that with somebody like an old flame would set be okay And he's like yeah, who say let's talk about it and he goes what good for you? And he goes no, no, no I don't want to be exalted Andy. I don't want to be exalted. Andy, I don't want to be exalted. That already happened in chapter seven. What happened to Trump? Tinky, I'm not exalted, you buddy.

He's like, I'm just saying something pleasant so we can move on. Yeah, so we have a commercial break. And then what happens now? Austin is mad. Yeah, basically, Madison Madison considering the craft that Shep has put you through, you in Austin through, is it hard not to take pleasure in Shep's relationship drama? And she's like, well, you know, honestly, I'm here for this redemption tour and I think

at this point, a good girl is exactly what he means. I need your therapist. And he goes, oh, my therapist knows all about you. It might be a conflict of interest. Oh gosh. Unless you were going to all be dating. So then Andy is like, so what have you learned, Shep? And he's like, oh, well, I learned to focus on, are you happy today?

If you think about your future, you'll freak out. So that's why when I met out with that girl, I thought if I make out with her, I could ruin everything with Taylor, but I have to think about right now. And am I happy? Could be a little happier if I just kiss her. Gosh, I've learned so much. And Andy asks how many times he's blocked out this year. And he's like, I will always have a little moon. But you know, last year was really dark and negative Andy Because he was he was unhappy so he was just hooking up with a lot of chicks Like that's like literally your whole life that we've seen all the so and Pringle says yeah, you know like when the cans thing happened I texted you like bro, you know and you were defined about it, you know I just reached out and I said buddy

You should take that down from Instagram and then I sent him a documentary about the people in New York that do collect the cans. What? He's like, here's what you gotta do those cans. You gotta find three more cans that are gonna magically disappear and then a bunch of fruits gonna fall down. Wait a second, I'm talking about an app that I gave my kids. And Chef was saying I don't care I only care about the funny. It was all about the

funny to him and Craig's like yeah you were sitting next to Austin on the plane and you said fuck those people this is funny. And Chef's like yeah well you know on the cold light of day I thought what have I done? What if I don't? I got down on my mind and said he means to phone platoon and I said oh Gorsh redemption tour Yeah, and that what by that he means like once he got in trouble Yes, Instagram, but he said what the fuck if I got because originally he said that when Pringle texted him He's like, wow, it's so drunk. I was really drunk. That's when I said it. And Craig's like, you're on the plane next to me. So he was either just like, had been on a bender

from the night before and onto the plane, or he was just trying to get out of it again before I. I know. I like that the guys aren't letting him get away with it. They're like, no, we tried to tell him and he would listen to us. So, and he's like, what did your parents have to say about it? And he goes, oh, my parents were in Alaska

touring the Denali Forest. My God, that was my favorite part of it all. Well, what's the Denali Forest? Shut up, Danny. Is that a food in Bevtown also? Well, they were staying at the Timber Creek lodge and, you know, I was like, Mom, Dad, can I come up to your presidential suite? And they were like, hold on one second, the butler is here.

And I was like, okay, fine. But then I was really antsy because it was turned down service time. And I didn't want it to lay that because I was really looking forward to the mint on my pants. So, oh, it was a real tough time. I had to wait downstairs for the butler to finish doing, but turn down service so we could carry me up the stairs. So once I got up there, my dad said, we've heard about some problems you've been having with recycling. And then I broke down and I said, I'm so sorry.

Please send the butler over. Like look, I'm not a guy who's like, fuck you and fuck your feelings. That's just not who I am Which is total bullshit and Madison makes a face and and he's like well Madison might not agree And he's like I feel bad about that because I said something's about Madison and she's like like it's fine You know what I feel at pace with ship and And Austin's like, you are not friends. Stop acting like your friends, both of you. The way that Austin just hectors people is like,

it's so infuriating but also hilarious. Like, everyone is just like, you're not friends, okay? This is the, what does he do to delivery people? Like if postmates kind of messes something up, I mean, we all get annoyed with that. But does he just like, you know, he calls up customer service. This is insane. I ordered a burrito, bull, not a burrito.

This is insane. This is not right. The man doesn't go, shut your mouth, it's not. Which, you know, gratifying. Gratifying him. Fuzzy for a long time. So you see, so Austin's like, you guys hate each other and Andy's like, well, I'm not asking if they're friends,

just if they're at peace. And Austin's just sitting there realing. He's like, muck it now. God, walk, walk, walk, walk, God. Don't have a muck it now. Just like, I'm just saying we're at peace. Well, how can you be a beast

with someone who treats your friends so bad? And like treated my girlfriend that you love so bad. Oh my goodness. How many years were you friends with them while they were treating like Catherine so bad? Exactly. Like give me a break. That's right. That's right.

So, so I'm like, well I'll tell you why, because Austin's got a standup for himself. At what point is he culpable? It takes two to Tango, you know, in Paris. And let me give you an analogy. Why would Madison let Austin go? He's cheap labor. I mean, level is a restaurant. Can you imagine if a manager works for $2 an hour

and comes in on time and cleans up? And does everything that you won't do? And you don't have to pay him shit. She's like, I would never do that. Maybe not with a manager, but I don't think I've ever seen a restaurant. I don't think there is a restaurant that doesn't use to cheap labor.

Come on. Yeah, I wasn't even totally sure about the analogy. I guess he was saying, couldn't he have just said, why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free isn't that the more is that was that what he was trying to say which is that like like Austin like she does this to you because she knows you're always going to come back right is that what she's saying is that what he was saying or did he just want to really make a comment about cheap labor is like, I just had to work in something about the people who work for us there.

So Andy's like, how does that make you feel Austin? And Austin's like, I know, I know, and Andy, I know, I know it's the truth. And love goes, yeah, but then when you don't speak up, then it spills over and Madison gets bullied. Okay, now like Madison is not some innocent little victim in any of this either. She isn't. She isn't, but I do think that they come hard at her. Really hard. I mean, you saw the way they went at shop versus the way that went at Madison. It's been seen right now.

So Shep's like, speak up Austin. He's like, oh, look buddy, I'm gonna have my time. I'm gonna have my time. Oh, good. So then'm gonna have my time. I'm gonna have my time. Oh, God. So then we go to Craig. So Craig's career ambitions used to just hang by a thread. Whoa. But ironically, this is the guy that's used

the success of the show to actually find success. That must be a tough pillow to swallow for shop. Oh, shop. Yeah, Chef, you've been dogging his ambition all this time and I'm saying dogging because you got a dog named little Craig, right? And she's like, what? No, I haven't been dogging his ambitions. I've been totally supportive since day one And I was like yes You He's rewinding himself as he talks

You have. He's rewinding himself as he talks. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I support you in your pillows. And Greg's, I go, please, your entire existence was about blasting me. And then we see clips of everybody making fun of Greg's pillows and his sewing over the years. And Cameron is such a nasty piece of everything.

But I love you. I'm always defended. Cameron is such a jerk at every clip. I've always defended defended or maybe at least I should say understood why they were like making fun of him because he was like I think it's awesome that he's doing the pillows and I think it's great that he found his passion. But he was also during this time feeding them lines of bullshit about like I'm going to be a lawyer, I'm a lawyer, I'm a lawyer, I'm a lawyer and then he hadn't even taken the bar.

And he was saying he was doing one thing, but he was saying he was, he just was talking all the time about he was gearing up for his like law career, but he was at home making pillows. So they're like, what the fuck are you doing? Like don't tell us you're doing this when you're doing that, right?

So I think that's why they were like, kind of like always rolling their eyes. So I always got like, it was like rich people laughing at the porpers. So I always got like it was like rich people laughing at the porpers. That's always how I took it off. Well, there could have been that but I thought like the prig was always full of shit.

I think it was the full of shit thing. Honestly, that was more what they were laughing at because he was like full of shit. But now we got it, but he was full of shit. And then he took that shit and he put it, he arranged it nicely and turned it into a business because you know what that's called getting your shit together and I like that set so back-handed because he's like you know what I will say the Craig has come further than all of us I mean from A to B

it's an amazing it's amazing the route he took when from A to B is like literally the easiest route you can take and Andy's like, so what about sewing down south? And Craig says that they just got an order place for 30,000 pillows. He's like, it's our first million dollar order. Which is crazy. 30,000 dollars for a million, 30,000 pillows. God, I'm not very good with math, but how much do those damn pillows cost? Pillows, throw pillows are more expensive than you would think.

A 30,000 pillows, if they were at $10 each, that's $300,000. So if they're all like $30, $40, that's a million dollars right there. They said they're $58. Yeah, guys, pillows. I mean, Craig gets smart. He found the easiest thing to sew. It's a square. It's a square sewn onto another square with stuff in the inside, okay?

Yeah, it's a 1.7 million dollars. Smell love. That's really, I mean, I just, I was very impressed by that. Not that anyone needs me to be impressed by it. But that's crazy. But I was impressed. I was, it was very, very impressive. That's crazy. Yeah. I want to. So he's going to open a store on King Street for all of his products because he wants to move into kitchen stuff now Yeah, I'm pretty pretty pretty. I was like, oh, have you thought of doing a Craig body pillow? I'm still here guys Have you thought about doing a pillow in the shape of an iPad that actually has an iOS in it just an iPad can you make iPads?

So Andy asks about Patricia giving you know how Patricia was saying shitty things about his pillows and he's like laughing I'm like sitting back all in his Steve Jobs pose and then we see the clip of Pat saying well my pillows are luxury and Greg's pillows are affordable And also like surprise surprise right Craig Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And also like surprise surprise, right Craig? And Craig goes, yeah, one bump. Her pillows are sold for $20 and our pillows are $58 on HSN. And HSN purchased two more collections from us and hers is a failure of a company.

And I saw Ms. Patricia on Twitter this morning saying something like, well, they cut out the other part, which is that I'm happy for him. And I love Craig, even if he does sell down market pillows. Poor people need to rest their heads on something as well. It's like that old analogy about cheap labor. You're not going to get cheap labor if they have cheap sleep, right? Give him a pillow. So Madison's like, don't say that. I don't believe that. She is. It's a failure. You know

what? Don't poke me. Like I'll root for you, but like it's blatant lies. And Madison says, so we'll say it to her face. And he's like, today is about the truth. And there's only one person here that truth hurts. And that's you, Madison, and kind of ship to. Yeah, the truth about my pillow is her. She doesn't it, Madison, doesn't it? My pillows are better than Patricia's pillows. Now, how does that feel, Madison?

I'm never talking to you ever. So, Katherine says, like, it's low-key kind of weird that an older person is bagging on the success of a young person that's trying to come up in the world. And Craig's like, yeah, like, how can we take anything she said about Austin's company series? Like, we just said a quarter million dollars in sales a month, and she's trashing us, and she's trashing Austin in his beer. I mean, Harris Teter or something out of the open.

All right, she's got a point with him, but still. Yeah, I like Catherine saying, you know, it's weird for an older person to be bagging on the success of a young person trying to come up. I also think it's weird for an old person to be coming on for a young person who's also trying to come up. It's not trying to make a Thomas Rav, and El Joe could kind of got away from me, everyone, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, the person married to Thomas Rav,

and El Cat really make that comment. Because that's like all Thomas every day. So Andy's like, well, Leva, first is for years, we saw you do cameos on the show, and now you're actually doing cameos. So what made you decide to join the show? And she's like, literally love doing cameos. So paid my mortgage, Andy, thanks.

Yeah, she basically like, well, I've got these buildings, I've got these businesses and I've always been in the background and there was that one scene where I got really mad at Craig when he tried to put up a step and repeat and I thought, I wanna do more of that. So yeah, so here I am. Hi.

Well, and the answer was the best part. She's like, you know, getting to know these people, I mean, they're all good people, even Catherine, you know, was like fine sometimes. So, and he's like, so what about the worst part? And she's like, well, it's not being heard, Andy, you know, and I'm just trying to be clear. And it's a real shitty feeling

when you're not trying to be abrasive, but it seems like you're knocking on the door and no one's home. That's how I feel. And he's like, well, someone asked how the cast are as customers in your restaurants. And she's like, Tee, Tee, and I have Tee. Love Tee, and me.

I literally have Tee. We serve a lot of Tee. And if you remember earlier in the season, I had a very ornate T set that we all enjoyed. So, because remember she did have a T set. Now that I think about it, it's like a really fancy T set. So Craig is like, tell us the one person

who's been kicked out of your restaurant clubs. And she's like, oh, well, it was Shab, I mean, he had to be ushered out and, you know, and Jeff's like, oh yeah, what, and I guess they say that he's always really long-winded when he tries to, when they have to kick him out. And he's like, oh, but I always tell a good story. It's like a grand finale to the evening for me, right?

Right, everyone loves it. Oh, you can read in chapter five through 18 in lowering the bar life on the ship side of the Dalai forest. And she says that Madis is a good customer and Thomas has always been a good customer, which I find hilarious because there's actually a map or something you can buy in Charleston of all the places that Thomas has been kicked out of that steakhouse that we went to in Patricia like five times. She even said so like, oh right there Thomas Thomas got kicked out of halls.

By the way, one of the best takes've ever had in my life was at that place yeah Halls is like their central perk on it really always it's just like Cougars and Catherine Catherine's like well the first night I even had any type of love connection that's my show with Thomas we were and we were public and love is like yeah I remember seeing her. I mean, she just looks so green. And I remember telling Lamar watch her because she's with all these older guys in Craig.

Because yeah, well, he let her get pregnant by a 52 year old. So he didn't do a very good job. No, that's what I meant. I said Lamar watch her, because this is what's going to happen when people come into our club. Okay, just watch and take notes. Okay, great. So, um, uh, yes, uh, Leva's like, well,

obviously, you know, he didn't get her home or whatever. So Andy's like, uh, so Katherine, do you remember Lamar watching over you seven years ago? Do you remember that? She's like, um, um, I don't really remember much. It was a long time. It was a sort of a weird question to ask. Why would you remember Lamar, like the guy in the corner who works there, sort of like looking out.

So. Well, also our answer was so creepy. She's like, yeah, I don't really remember much about that, my name is when I go on. So then Pringle says, well, I kiss Catherine at Republic. I mean, I haven't still have the shirt that you got your lipstick on, won't come out. That's cause you have to wash it.

That's how that works. So then, I think, yeah, I'm sort of like a cage lion when I was releasing Charleston. You still are, you still are. You should go to the Denali Forest in Alaska. There are bears there. You'll be fine, because we'll just stay in the lodge, you know and presidential suite I'm never says T again. She's like I won't spill tea and either all protected from tea

And he says do feel like you were an outsider because of your person descent and being married to a black guy And she's like well, I think interracial couples is more common now than it used to be and she's like, well, I think interracial couples is more common now than it used to be. And she's like, well, I think Charleston is a pretty progressive city. Look, well, I mean, that's easy for the, you know, white rich guy to say. Charleston, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I would say so. So have you ever been treated differently and why did Madison do that to you go on and? And then Leva tells a story about how she got into a car accident She's like I ran someone over which I thought was kind of a funny way to start it But she yeah, the guy was basically like are you are you a legal is this even your car? Like he's basically like there's a big dick white guy moment

And then she was buying a property one time and the guy said um basically like, it's a big dick white guy moment. And then she was buying a property one time. And the guy said, you don't know anything about anything and I don't want your Yankee money. And because I was schooling him on a deal and he said, I don't want your Yankee cash. And like, people like you need to get out of our city and stuff like that. So yeah, you hear stuff, but not amongst this group.

And Andy asks, if little is a real name, and she explains where little came from, which like don't care. And then um, because he's like a little version of the family and then. So next up is one thing this hard to miss is some of the female cast members are missing this year. Leva, what's your relationship like with Cameron? And she's like, well, it's not really there anymore. Um, I mean, there's no bad blood, but... And he asks if she's like,

he's like, sounds like there is. And she's like, oh, I don't think so. He says, do you think that she's upset that you joined the cast? And she's like, well, I'm just think so. He says, do you think that she's upset that you joined the cast? And she's like, well, I'm just assuming that she doesn't want to hear anything about the show. Right. So Craig's like, she'd love doing this.

She'd love being on the show. I actually believe Craig on this because she was on real world. She even did the Girls Gone Wild special with what Joe Francis, she did the challenge. Cameron, I think they Cameron liked doing it, but I think that her husband is not a fan of it. And I would not be surprised that there was a little bit of an ultimatum, and especially when he showed up on the show finally last season and they were all like, boo! And he's probably like, fuck it.

You mean, it's like you're seeing the show with me. Yeah, probably, but she seems like so traumatized. Like she won't talk to anybody from it. She cut everybody off, it sounds like. And they're saying it's not because of the affair stuff. And everyone seems to agree on that. So it's weird, I wonder what happened. She's probably just doing that thing

when certain people graduate high school and they go off and then they come, they're like, yeah, I go to school and fill it delphia now. So I don't have to talk to you. It's like, okay, all right, so congratulations. You moved on to another phase of your life. Yeah, Craig spoke with her, he said, like one time in three months,

and it was an, I love you, but it sucks we can't talk kind of conversation, but he doesn't say why. And then Danny thinks it's because she likes to have control over her life, and she probably regrets not being there. And Catherine is like, and I want to make it clear, like Catherine suddenly is like alive. Yeah. Catherine.

It's like someone gave her a shot in the ass. It's like, oh my God, I haven't hardly said anything of the three unions. So I wanna make it clear that she decided not to come back before rumors or anything like that started. Yeah. And Craig's like, yeah, I hate that that happened that everyone's blaming that rumor.

Yeah. And Catherine's like, and now she fucking hates me and has phomo. Sorry, you didn't get to be on the show this year. You've been talking about me for six, whatever. No, she can't. Yeah, thanks, because she gets all furious out of nowhere. And then he's like, okay, let's put a pin in that.

Yeah. So we come back from break and one of the biggest bombs shows drop before the camera. Wait, can I say something? Can I say something? Sorry, something a thong popped into my head. and one of the biggest bombshells dropped before the camera. Wait, can I say something sorry? Something a thought popped into my head. I think I would not be surprised

if another reason why Cameron is moved on from Southern charm is because she's become very baby-oriented. I mean, she had a baby, which is a life-changing experience. And her whole thing last year was about baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. And it's a little frustrating to me. If if my theory is true, I would be frustrated and the reason why is not because it's not because like, oh, motherhood is like motherhood or babies, baby's, but it's more like her whole thing was always, I hate babies. I don't like babies, I don't even want a baby, I hate babies, I hate babies, I hate babies, I hate babies, and then all of a sudden

She becomes like moms, did you ever know that if you feed a baby too much it burps up? It's like now she's like super baby like mommy baby and so if that is why she leads if she left because she wants to do more baby stuff I would be personally frustrated because she was always, like, it's like a total 180 from what she was always about. And I feel like a little lied to. I don't know if that's rational. And I'm not trying to be insulting to people

who are mothers, because I understand it changes you. But I feel like that. I feel like that because, I doubt it's that because it's like some big secret. You know, she was gonna do it until the day before and then she dropped out and no one knows why and then she won't talk to anybody now. It just seems weird. So Catherine's like, and I did not start that rumor and I have a folder. I kind of forgot to bring it out here. I'm like, here's just coming back from a break.

You forgot the folder, Catherine. And then we see a close-up of the folder in Catherine's dressing room. And she says it's full of text messages just to prove that she didn't sit at home twiddling my thumbs to come up with a rumor about a girl that I'm so jealous of you know what she has nothing I want okay and she's been a fake inauthentic ring you know she's faking an authentic and she used me when it was convenient and Craig and she both heard the rumor and she I heard you were at a bar a year ago and people were talking about this

and they're like, jeez, because she's like furious and going out. She's like literally like, on the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland. She's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like we're in this, what happened? I'm crying so I can't turn. She's like, I know there's no truth to the rumor

and I know that Catherine didn't make up the rumor and Andy goes, yeah, but you brought it up I know that Catherine didn't make up the rumor and and he goes Yeah, but you brought it up on the show So didn't she quit because of that and then we see Cameron's Instagram where she says my decision was given to Bravo months ago and I had nothing to do with it had nothing to do with this ridiculous and fake rumor Haven't been spread about my marriage. So please disregard any fabricated rumor. I Love baby bibs. So then she, Craig is like,

well, what happened? It was in the 11th hour and I called Cam and she said, we were doing this and the next day we showed up to film, but I got a call from her and she said, you're gonna hate me, but I'm not doing this year. So I like, I went home and I was like, she's not doing it this year. So then I went to my fridge and I got a beer and I drank the beer and I was like, Hey, chef, did you know

that cam's not doing it this year? Yeah, it's like the 11th hour like she's gonna do it with us today but then she didn't do it with us today. So then she didn't and you know, I'm never talking to Madison again. And Andy still stuck on well, wouldn't you guys assume that that's because of the rumor? Because it's like that happened on the first day of filming. And Catherine said, no, that had been going around. And Leva doesn't believe the rumor. Shev doesn't believe it. And she's like, who even cares anymore? Like really? Yes. And Leva's like, yeah, but it and Andy tells her, but yeah, but you were really mad about the rumor with Catherine. Like you told Catherine off about it. And love was like, well, yeah, because she brought it onto national television, you know?

Like everybody on this couch has fake rumors about them, you know? And I was shocked that people took it seriously because I hear stuff and I don't talk about it. And Kat has like two, oh that's bullshit. Oh, we all talk about it. The tea, yeah. She's like, we all talk about it.

Come on, Bevah, you've been on one season, like you would know. Yeah, and Leva, which is true, but Leva has been around all this time. We've always known about Leva. So she's like, I'm saying I don't repeat fake rumors about you, okay? Him, him, her, him, him, him, him, her, her, it, what, him, her, him, it, that pillow over there. Chris Gavallari, this is the scene right now you talk about, because you Gavallari, him, him, him, it, or if I have a problem with you, I have kept it real. If I have problems with any of you fuckers,

I keep it real, I have a T, I have the T and a T pot. And Catherine's like really, because watching this season, you sure had a lot to say about me, and it was very hurtful. And she's like, well then tell me what I said and I'll apologize, because I didn't want to say anything hurtful, but you know, like every time every time I talk to you she said lots of things. You even made fun of my voice

I know and then we see a clip of love us saying like oh she's gonna say like in her little baby voice Like I didn't know with her baby voice as it's like yeah I'm like is this the worst that is this the worst door that could pull that level is that she said she's gonna speak in a baby voice and Love us like yeah, but Everything I said I told you clearly to your face and she was no clearly not because you told all my friends I'm a bad person who manipulates all my friends and she's like who did I say that to and then we see a clip of a clip a clip of love I'm saying that girl treats you like a doormat, Danny. And Danny's like, wow, she didn't know how to be a good friend. And love was like, I didn't say she manipulates you.

And captain's like, Oh, I used the wrong words. Sorry. You took advantage of Danny, who's a very good person. As a, as if Danny never said any of that. I love him for us to say all that stuff. Come on. I'll take advantage of Danny. And by the way, from what we can see, Katherine does treat Danny like a doormat. Like Danny is the one who shows up and waits for Katherine.

Danny is the one who texts Katherine. Doesn't get to text back. Like it's not, it's, there's actually a very big difference between saying, you know what, your friend just treating you like a doormat versus saying, Katherine is manipulative. Dada, dada, dada, dada. So love is like, oh my God, stopping a victim.

And then Catherine gets really bad. I'm not a fucking victim. Yeah, her seat really is. I need to shut the fuck up with that right now. You're the fucking victim. Jeannie's. Wow. Yeah.

I was like, this is going to be a bad look going into, you know, the serious talks. So then Leva's like, you should be so lucky I give a shit. How am I the victim? How am I the victim? She's like, I'm over it. I'm over it. We'll get to you and to me girl. We'll get to you and she's like, all I said was that you said that you have an internal

bias. I have a right to say that. No, you're not gonna sit there and distort my narrative instead of me anymore. That's it, girlfriend. That's it, girlfriend. And she's like, I've slandered you now. You slandered yourself. Like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, What the hell? And then they're like next week. Can I pee? Can I pee? Can I pee? Can I pee? I'm having my bladder right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, what a show.

It looks like this will be a three-parter, right? Because they did not say the conclusion and it doesn't look like they didn't touch on any of the racial stuff for next week. So a lot to on back here, a lot to on back. Wow. For now, let's put a pin in it. And Pringle gets mad at Craig, so that'll be fun. Yeah, all right, everybody.

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