Watch What Crappens - Southern Charm: The Final Dose

Episode Date: August 30, 2019

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Yeah, thanks. So today is the final episode of the season of Southern Charm. Yeah, I was really appreciative that Bravo only gave us two reunion episodes. I think they did all they needed to do. We only needed two episodes. I was very happy that they condensed it down like that. Our was too. I'm not into, I don't need three reunions of everything at all times.

You know, I'm looking at you, Beverly Hills, okay? Looking at you. Looking at you. Looking at you. Yeah, judging you. So this reunion started off with like some backstage stuff. We see like Madison getting her makeup on, and she's all nervous because it's her first reunion

and Danny's backstage. I think this may be Danny's first reunion too. And she is, Danny has whipped herself into a tizzy again against Madison, and she's like, it was personal, it was not a good example, especially as a mother to be setting. She's like, really anti-Madison. In fact, I was surprised that it seemed like a lot of the women on stage were anti-Madison. And that seemed a little crazy to me because it seemed like Madison is the one that we should

actually be supporting right now. Is that just me? No, why? She said that Danny had chlamydia or whatever. So they're all like girl, you know, they're girl power circling around Annie. Yeah, I know I know they're doing like girl power around Annie and I recognize that and I appreciate that. But it's like totally misdirected. The reason why Madison said that is because Austin told her and sure it was like not a great moment

but they are like so over the top of that. It's a stigma, I'm like it's Climidia. Like a lot of people get it. I mean, I'm grateful that I haven't gotten it But if someone said Ben, you know someone so gay Ben come here. I'd be like yeah, that's annoying Yeah, and I have yeah, I went to the doctor. Yeah, everything's okay. Yeah, you know like like you know like like like like you're See like what what's the matter? What's happening? What's going on? You know, yeah, well I don't know about any of that But I do know that they are ridiculous and Madison can cause so much shit by literally just sitting there and whispering

She never says she barely says anything this whole time. She gets pissed off one time and at last I think two seconds, but she controls the entire reunion. I mean, that's that's something you got a hand to her Yeah, seriously so so we see like Previews whatever and then it's now now Danny comes out on stage and And we like part two begins properly. Yes, and of course it's like welcome Danny. Okay, Catherine Let's talk about how many drugs you're on Okay, let's keep railing on Catherine

There goes an odd transition like hey, Danny welcome back on the stage We're just about to talk about Catherine sobriety. Why not chime in again So Austin is still just so so just so the Catherine so just so ridiculous Catherine I just did your ass sickeness right now he's seeing right now Catherine's seeing his mouth is just fully moving all of he's like saying the pledge of allegiance with his mouth you know moving while he's his voice is saying nothing and he's just so mad about what happens live well I'd like to remind everyone that he called into watch what happens live to like slutshane madison in the first place and they're all acting like he was calling in for

some heroic reason and all Catherine said to him was who and he really blambered the guys of prick you know he doesn't even look at her this whole time. Yeah he is Austin is actually such a loser and he is actually the loser of this reunion. I mean I thought after the first episode wow sheep is really like you know after the season sheep has had and after this reunion. I mean, I thought after the first episode, wow, Shep has really like, after the season, Shep has had, and after this reunion, wow, Shep really lost this reunion, but I actually think that Austin lost it.

I think that Austin really revealed himself to be smarmy and hypocritical and condescending, and it was a bad look for him all around. At least Shep had like a really awkward toast at the end to get some sort of a jams in, okay? I feel like chef was the worst, but yeah, Austin was pretty bad too. And frankly, Cameron sucked. Fuck you, Cameron.

Cameron was bad. The set sucks. And then it reminds me, Cameron sucks every reunion. Like how many times does Cameron get to come on here and just stand up for every fucking pig on this show But she really topped herself today. I have to say yeah I actually thought that Cameron a lot of times that Cameron does not bother me the way she does with you at the reunions But this episode she actually did I thought that she was on the wrong side of a lot of things

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people win this reunion. That's true then they're like But we're such good friends. It's like you guys are all ruining each other's lives And that's the only good thing to come out of this. I think that's the only one that's free again. I think Andy won. This is like the first time ever that Andy truly won a reunion. Yeah, we don't really give Andy a whole lot of credit on this show. A lot of times, you know, like everybody else on this show.

But yeah, you got to hand it to that guy. He really openly hated them. And it was really enjoyable to watch. He really like watching get annoyed that that chef didn't know who Brooke Astor was, was great. He just really, he really went at it. And you know, again,

sometimes we forget because that he's actually gotten pretty good at this reunion thing because I watch other reunions of other reality shows, like perhaps Love Island UK. And it's just, no, no, this is... These are the questions we need to be asking. Mailed it. So Austin is still blabbering on about Watcher Happens Live, and Catherine's like, you're that upset, Jesus. Yeah. And then we get a clip of her Watcher Happens Live, where yeah, she did seem loopy. I don't know what the hell was going on with her, but she didn't see it's not like Sid Nazi.

You know what I mean? We've seen so many people fucked up on that show, but I get I mean I get it. So Catherine's like, okay, but then we see a clip of what happened two seconds ago where she's like, don't think for a second. You're going to come after me or my sobriety back the fuck up. And then Naomi jumps in, you know, Naomi lost this reunion too. Fucking Naomi. She's like, well, Catherine,

you getting so aggressive with Chef right now, like I wasn't gonna say anything, but like someone we all know said they saw you drinking there. Oh really, who could that be? Right. Who could that be? Patricia. Oh, oh, oh, shit. Wow, you're a real.

Patricia, you messy ass. Wow. Well, that's what it be. Madison wouldn't be texting all of them. I would think that could have a hairdresser or something. They have the whole circle of gals who are like in their group, who like come with them to things like watch what happens live, etc. So I just sort of assumed it was one of those just like it could have been leva. It could have been leva. Yeah. You know, I'm pinning it on you misprodricially. All right, stir it up. So, um, uh, yes, name is like I someone saw you drink before the

show and Cameron's like, nobody is coming for your sobriety, but you have to be honest. And we're also coming for your sobriety. Yeah, you're literally coming for her sobriety. And no, she doesn't have to be honest. She doesn't owe you shit. All you guys do, you guys showed up for a fucking sobriety check at her house on camera last day or a wellness check, but it was basically a sobriety check because they were so worried that she was on drugs or whatever.

And then this year when Catherine wasn't texting them back when she was having her fling with the Miami disgraced senator or whatever the hell was going on there, they suggested it again by saying that the only time she gets like that is when she's off the rails. So you guys keep insinuating over and over again on camera when you know That she could get her kids taken away that she's fucked up and then you're like we're such good friends I just don't understand why you don't see us as such good friends. Yeah, they're all like they're all what you like Basically, they're all like listen We've been covering for you and we just it seems like their issue is that they don't know how to cover for her They're like well are we allowed to say that you drink are we not allowed?

It's really hard because we cover for you and she's just like arm. I don't know how to cover for her. They're like, well, are we allowed to say that you drink? Are we not allowed? It's really hard because we cover for you. And she's just like, um, I don't know. Yeah, she's like, I don't, I don't. I don't like, I can drink if I want to. So I mean, who else? So then we move on to the treehouse topic to the treehouse trip. And basically, uh, someone called in like, Joni from Misha Pocalypse says, hey, dang, Danny, Katherine's a grown woman. If she's testing, maybe you're a crowdinger. And which I don't know, I have actually supported Danny and Naomi in this argument because I really,

when I text someone and they just don't get back to me at all, and they're supposed to be a good friend, and I'm like, I usually have more leeway with them, and that I can then send a follow-up text, but like, hello, but I still don't like it. I'm like, we're friends, you should respond to me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'm just like, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, when, and you feel, Ronnie, that... Oh, I don't really care, because I'm the worst person, you know. I'm pretty good about texting back. You always text back. Yeah, I text back, but I don't know.

This was more... What do you do to make this as often a repologizing unnecessarily? You're always like, I'm so sorry, but I have a question. And I'm like, why are you apologizing? Because I'm begging you after work. It's like, we talk for three hours, and I'm like, hey, what about this thing on the website? I and I never apologize. I'm like I always do I always started off saying BTW as if we were just talking in a second You know, I go BTW. What about if we do this?

No, I'm sorry, you know, it's because my grandma was really mean to people at zero beach Zero beach so Danny's like well Catherine gets a lot of passes, especially for me. Oh my god, Danny, get off the fucking cross already. Like all Danny does is come on here and martyr herself over and over again. Get her some fucking beads to beat herself on the back with already. Oh, I have to have those. Yeah, yeah. So she's like, especially for me for me like especially with this girl's trip

It was a filmed fucking event call the producers and ask them your shooting schedule you dope I don't know. I think that like she has a right to be annoyed that Catherine did not write her back But at the same time it is so I don't know whether I find it to be absolutely precious or Aqua to watch Danny on this reason because she is like a little just like a little trembling dough You know or like a fawn and she's like just shaking and just like I just it was just it was just like is a lot You know, it's just like I feel like I give her a lot of passes You know Oh

Congratulations, here's a fucking trophy, you know She's making me nuts on this one and you know Danny's always fine to just sit there and and smirk it everybody else while they're screaming and yelling at each other and rooting each other's lives? I like Danny. I like Danny But I feel like sometimes she picks the wrong battles and then she and then she battles them strangely and so it's like sometimes It can be hard. It can be hard to support her but like I in general I support her like as I did to you know I sound hateful right now, but like I in general I support her like as I did to you know I sound hateful right now but usually I'm fine I like Danny I'm fine with her but this is maybe too much like I don't need Danny like crying all the time like everything such that's what Danny does it is that's true But then I would be like that in real life, you know, I'd be like shut up leaf stop

She's a star she's starting artists. She is not sold to painting in a while. She just she's like I have this great idea I was gonna do um dogs playing poker and I think it'd be really funny like oh Danny Uh, I don't have to break this to you, but someone else did that She does like that she does like she would be like I'm gonna have flowers playing bridge It's like oh god daddy flowers playing bridge She does like flowers and like lakes and stuff. Still live playing games. Yeah, I generally like her, but she's a little, she's a little cry for this.

And I just don't think the punishment fits the crime. Catherine didn't text you guys back a couple of days. Oh no. I do think that Catherine's in a ditch. I think 100%. If someone is organizing a trip and then you're texting to be like what's the deal and they don't get back to you, I think that is totally obnoxious and I don't think that's cool. So I actually think the punishment of trying the punishment is crying and complaining

and I think that's like my favorite punishment punishment punishment I've given out to my family anytime. That is a good punishment bad. It's a great punishment. If you ever punish me with crying and yeah, I cry. My default is crying. People don't realize because the thing is this, it's a survival mechanism. And basically, this is what I've learned from therapy is that like when we have like fighter flight moments, like our body, like reacts in different ways and my body reacts by crying.

So if you ever have like a conflict with me, you'll know that I'm feeling uneasy because I'll start to cry. I love the despite her flight. Like in our day, people are going to be riding on the caves, you know, like this person survived by just sobbing. Like a big bear came towards his person and he just started sobbing. And that's how we survived the moment. I just want to point out that crying is not is not an option in a fight or flight defense so I'm really like

I like about it down it's like it's like the body says what is happening so anyway the funny I'm Danny and I'm crying because no one texted me back Right, but it's not just that is the punishment It's like going on the girls trip then ruining everybody's time on the girls trip because you're so upset about the text. It's like, oh, here's the thing though, here, but again, like I would be upset. And so like, I just, I understand it so well because I've been in that position. And here's the thing is that if Catherine were just like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, it

was an accident. But she's not like that, which is what drives Danny to go a little bonkers because this is clearly a pattern and Andy himself goes like if you're a good friend is trying to get a hold of you or is worried about you then why are you getting so defensive about her asking like for you to cheese her trails off I'm I guess he's gonna mean like why are you so defensive about her asking you to text her back or this is that instead of getting defensive, can you just be better about texting people back? And that's it.

And here's the thing, like Catherine has like really no good excuses here. And she tries, she has one okay excuse, which is that she's like, um, I'm used to my phone ringing and it being Thomas or my lawyer or something else, not good. Yeah. Um, which I get. So I didn't get the anxiety of a phone and maybe she puts it away, but like you like if you have if you're planning something like maybe I don't know, just like check it

like once per day or something. And if you see Danny texted, she is. Catherine is always relying on the Thomas stuff to get out of. She's always relying on her pain as her excuses. And that is old, you know, it's like Catherine, we have caller ID now. Okay, it's not like some landline is ringing,

and you always worry about who it is going to be. You know, she does do that. But. Yeah, and Cameron's like, you can't alienate other people in your life who do not have all intentions for you. Which are. I wear those people, Cameron, like you, you fucking nasty piece of work.

Shut up, Cameron. You're not even in this discussion You're not even friends with Cameron, you're not in any of these scenes. Who the fuck asked you, okay? She went to the tree house trip actually just you forgot so then Catherine's like She's like a lot of trees and by the way, I'm still angry that those tree houses were not like trees that were like Cabins a month's trees like trees that were like cabins amongst trees. A tree house. She's like, I'm here tree.

Here's my advice to you. Okay. When the wind blows, maybe you should just pay more attention to the wind than you wouldn't be in the straub tree. So, Catherine's like, um, I answer my phone, but I answer it for my actual friends. So, Chelsea's like, so I guess I't respect a response because we're not actual friends. Is that what it is? Yeah. You know, Chelsea also kind of won this.

Oh, yeah. She's actually kind of won this season, low key. Yeah. Chelsea is kind of a cool person and doesn't really hurt anybody. And every time she else at anybody, I pretty much agree with her. And she manages to make it through reunions, standing up for herself, but also not being a pretty much agree with her and she manages to make it through reunions standing up for herself but also not being a complete asshole, which I don't know that many people on board of them know how to do that.

She actually deserves some special recognition because she really does stand up for herself very well. And when she gets angry, she's still remarkably even tempered and can just sort of like put someone in their place in such a cold and distinct way with a smile on her face like she just does with Catherine right now and you're just like, woo, just got Chelsea. You just got Chelsea. You just got Chelsea? So Catherine's like, well, I don't really know what to say for myself, TBH.

Anybody want to buy my earrings? You can buy them right now. Just click on the link of my face. Yeah. She just falls back on like a blanket defense where she goes, Tommy sees going to bring this up in court just so everyone knows.

So if you don't want to get sued by Thomas, could you stop talking about how I don't answer? You know because Andy's like how is this gonna be in court and she's like that's about being You know about being accountable and Responsive responsive and Andy's like well, so shouldn't that motivate you to actually be better But I like to add these like which part would be brought up in court? I don't know Andy. Maybe the two full segments. You just did about her being in court? I don't know Andy maybe the two full segments You just did about her being fucked up Yeah, I don't know. I do just like what? Yeah, look what do you mean? Oh

By the way, this is on video today anybody if you want to watch this instead of just listen to us if you want to run the man It faces crap. It's all the man Yeah, so Danny is just when she talks about Thomas You know this is gonna be in court. Danny's like, Like here we go again. Mm-hmm. And, uh, Danny is like, um, by the way, Naomi is so over everyone and everything today. She's just in a constant eye roll.

She hates everything. Well, because right now she's thinking, I really want that fucking rice crispy treat correct brought me last hour. I know that's what they say. If you don't want to eat it, don't have it in the house. You know what I mean? Like that being right next to me would just be, I'd be freaking out the whole time. Like I feel the energy from it, you know? I wouldn't be able to concentrate. I have M&M's in this house that I can't eat, and that's driving me nuts right now. As we speak, I don't need that.

Someone brought them over this weekend and I've been testing myself to be like, Ben, if you can live in the same house with peanut M&Ms, then you can do this. Oh, no, not me, not me. I turn into a full, I turn full-sid and Nancy whenever I'm by, I had Chaco Liebens the other day, just because I saw them randomly

at Cosblast World Market. Chocolate crackers is what they are. And so I had Chaco Liebans the other day just because I saw them randomly at cost plus world market Chocolate crackers is what they are and so I had them and I was like these aren't as good as I remember and so I just threw them up on the fridge All-night, I mean put them up on the fridge and barfed them up on them and then all night I was watching TV and I just felt them like them like, Chakolibans. Chakolibans calling you Chakolibans. Nella. Oh, well, I've definitely been staring down those peanut M&Ms. They just stare at me. And there's also some bachis, you know, those chocolate hazelnut things that are also needed to stop because they're just staring at me. And I've also been craving a slice of chocolate cake so badly. Like,

stop. Let's stop. Let's talk about how pissed off Naomi is that every. Oh, wait, I started scrolling because I got nervous because we were talking about food. Okay. They want to orient yourself. I'm completely lost in the desert now. Like I'm in the middle of his car right now because I'm going. Okay. So Naomi's like, like, we care a lot about you and your children, and that's why no one's said anything. But what does that have to do with not texting anybody back? And those are patterns like, well, I just get overwhelmed by the shame of all these people

who want their texts back. I also get that too. It's like when you get a bunch of emails, like, don't want to deal with it. But at the same time, just send some emojis. Just like, just choose a random emoji and send it back and just like put the ball back in their court. Yeah. So then Danny has asked something and I didn't even write it back.

So I was cracking up Naomi just being a drone. Yeah. Because Naomi just sounds like Naomi robots. She's like, we really care about you and your kids. This is the last reunion I'm gonna be nice to you by the way. So, yeah, basically Catherine's saying that it's just like really unfair that she's being portrayed as a bad friend all the time.

And then Andy asked the Andy about like what's her relationship with Catherine these days and Danie's like, well, we have a very unique friendship. And I just, I can depend on Catherine not all the time, you know, and like recently she's been hanging out with Madison and, and well, you know, I did a painting on it. It's called the worm and worm on a log. And it's just new worms. Where's the butterfly and the where's the butterfly? I did a painting called a not very story, not and it's like it's basically like a sky with those stars in it and then just like Madison Catherine sitting looking at it and then I'm just like not in the painting at all, not at all. So yeah, she's mad that she's hanging out with Madison

and Catherine's like, but you told me that was fine. And Andy's like, well, do you hang out with her? I mean, how much do you hang out with her? She's like, I mean, we're kind of friends, our kids, and she's trying to downplay this. Yeah, she's trying to keep Danny calm. And Austin's like, oh, come on, Catherine. I said, I come on Katherine. You can't act like come on cat shut up

I was like I don't even know where to begin with all this like I don't even know where to begin Like you're actually hanging out with with Madison. Like I don't even know where to begin with this I'm like you had sex with her last night, okay? Do not begin to shame Catherine for hanging out with Madison because you are literally having sex with her She is gonna come out on the set in 20 minutes and you are going to kiss her hello, okay? You are going to tell her not to look at the teleprompter and you're gonna be upset that Catherine's kids

hang out with Madison's kids. Like, well, he's getting mad that she's saying, she's not even very close with, he's defending Madison because she's like, well, I'm not that close with her. Like, I barely hang out with her. I barely know her and he's like, how could you say that?

You know, like, oh, really? You're really downplaying your relationship and that's not cool. And she's like, well, our kids play and he's like, oh, oh, really? And someone goes, oh, so you didn't just leave them with her? Like, Jesus, you guys. Well, then I retract my rant, but I will not. No, I like to keep it on the motion. I think the motion will stay, but I'll retract it because I interpreted him as being just mad that

Like that Catherine was hanging out with Madison. Oh, no, she's oh, it just needs to be clearer. That's his that's on him Yeah, we need to just clear that lens I I tried to read his lips, and I got obviously mixed messages. That's it. Pledge of leads him to the flag. Yeah. So, I don't even know where to begin. I mean, I know you didn't just hang out with her and her kids one time.

And she's like, I didn't say one time. My mom was really sick, and I needed help with supervised visits, okay? And that's a personal matter. I'm not allowed to discuss or am. And Danny's like, yeah, I did supervise visits once and then she did it after me. I'm like, well, you're going to hold that kind of shit against her.

I mean, she's defending Catherine actually. Right there she is, but she's like, you're still friends with Madison. Well, yeah, I mean, she's friends. If somebody's a good enough friend to you to help you with supervised visits, I'm sorry that you got you know, you got mad at this girl one time, Danny. But I mean, I can understand the frustration. I think the implication is that like she doesn't text me back. Like it's like sometimes she'll text me back. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn't. I never know. And yet she seems to make time to spend time with Madison, who is not as close as my friend

I think that's the implication which I can understand the frustration But Catherine brings up a really important point which is that her mom who just recently passed away like a week or two ago Which is super sad? It's been sick and So Catherine can wanted to spend time with her mom and needed help with someone to watch the kids So she explains that and then Austin on the heels of saying that, Austin's like, I just feel like this friendship is playing both sides. I'm like, you know what, you have to really be quiet.

Okay, like, did you not hear what Catherine just said? Did you not hear what's going on? And talk about playing both sides. I mean, how about everything with you, Austin? Every single thing playing both sides between Madison and Shep, I mean, you pitted them together and they became mortal enemies. How Madison and Danny you keep pitting people against each other all the time that's your mo and then you're

gonna get mad because you think that Catherine is playing both sides and I like what what what even horse you have in this race yeah he just wants to mansplain because he copies everything Shep does and now he's just trying to be playing like Shep like nobody fucking needs you to talk right now Austin Yeah, so yeah, so and is like so you and Kath so you and Madison have become good friends and Kath is like not good friends That's an awesome jumps in again, and it's like but you'll ask sort of supervisor children Catherine. I'm like Austin

You were really you were really trying me and you were dropping below chef for'm like Austin, you were really, you were really trying me and you were dropping below chef for me right now. Like you were dropping below chef, chef is rising in my, like by default, he's rising, he's rising. Oh, I think he can just rise above chef without separating like chef chef's chef cannot rise this. He's just doing terribly. The chef is just a total fail of this so Austin's like the French You know she's playing both sides. You can't play both sides like that. You can't you sit on the fence Like I don't even know why I would sit on the fence You know, and he's like you're super close you're super so no way or not

I have no one else and then she starts her whole like I have nobody so then else and then she starts her whole like I have nobody. So then they start asking about these supervised visits and Thomas approved Madison to supervise the kids and Catherine's like what the hell Danny? Like I thought you were okay that I was decent with Madison and now you're bringing it up like it's this huge thing. And she's like well I said I was okay with it before she did like 15 other things to me. Catherine. Yeah that's when I said I was okay with it before she did like 15 other things to me, Catherine. That's when I said that. And Shep is like, you shouldn't even have to ask Danny how she feels because you should know it would bother your near dear friend who's been there for you to think or thin.

Your dear, dear friend, like Shep, please. Yeah, Shep, just like you have been to Craig and just like you have been to Austin, your best friend this season. be a fucking break shop So Catherine's basically like I Didn't want Madison to feel like me like like I did when no one would talk to me And then they're like but she put herself in that position She put herself in that position everyone just starts doing that. I'm like did she put herself in that position? I guess when she said the Climidia thing that was that was bad Well, while we're talking about who puts himself in what position she put herself in that position? I guess when she said the Climidia thing, that was bad.

Well, while we're talking about who puts himself in what position Danny put herself in that position too, Shep put himself in every position he's been in on this show. So yeah, I mean, like the reason why Madison is in any position, honestly, why she's on the defensive is because of Shep to be a, out. I think chef and Austin, I think. I fully think that. And like the fact that they are like, oh, she put herself in that position. At the same time, also like why does it,

like, why does that matter, the position that she was put in, she's not like Ashley, she's not like the town pariah. Okay, so I don't know. I just think that everyone's like being unnecessarily cruel to like a woman who's not perfect by any means, but is certainly certainly more of an upstanding citizen than pretty much all the men on this show. Yeah. So, but that's what they do.

Every year they have a woman to yell out on this show. Mm-hmm. That's pretty standard for this show. And it's just madness in this time. And she handles it the best as anyone's ever handled her. Has she even out on stage yet? Okay. Celebrity Beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter

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something and that's why, you know, that's why no one's treating it that's why it's different Catherine and Danny goes she did terrible things if if one of the guys like I just want to also point out like that the like why is it that okay so Madison let's say like in worst case scenario, the two things that Madison did that were the worst, was that she said that Danny got chlamydia and she hit on gentry. Let's say, let's take that at its most like salacious version of that, because it's like there's some grayness about whether she hit on gentry or not, but let's say she hit on gentry through that DM and she said the Climidia thing.

And because of that, that put her in a position where they said, well, she did it to herself, why don't you talk to her? Shep brought the two girls from Austin's video, and at the end of the reunion, they're like, well, we thought that was funny. Why is it that Madison, with her transgressions, which, maybe not the best transgressions, but certainly not the worst, is suddenly Warren's pariah status, where a ship does a million different things.

And in fact, all the men do a million different things. And they totally get like, well, that's just them or whatever. You know, why do they get the past? And that's what fundamentally drives me nuts about this situation. Yeah. And every, every fucking issue on this show is that. You know, it's like, oh, well, we'll be nice to the richer ones. You know, and why is Whitney not even having to show up here?

What the hell? If you're not going to, if you're not going to even show up to the real audience to take your lumps, then don't be on the show. Like, I don't understand that. You're a main cast member. So I, yeah, and it's like, and the thing is that like, I'm not saying that that Madison deserves to be let up the hook because she's like totally innocent, but I'm not saying that Madison deserves to be let up the hook because she's totally innocent, but I'm just saying that it's a totally unfair standard.

I actually think that maybe one of the reasons why it also fires me up is because I actually feel like a lot of women in general, this is what they have to deal with. A woman has a transgression and they really get slammed. They get whether it's in business or politics or in the coffee shop, like whatever it is, a woman messes up a little bit and they just get totally just like knocked down, shun, whatever, they just get the whole business

and it happens with a man and people, people might get, let's speak outrage, but the actions that then follow, it's not the same. And that was trickier. This is trickier than that because it's the women who were slamming her down. So that's what I'm not saying. I'm not saying where it's coming from because that's a whole other complicated issue. Unfortunately.

Yeah. So they, um, so Naomi drones in. She's like, it seems like Madison is using you to manipulate you or hurt Danny. And you're just, you Danny and you're just, you know, you're just like, I'll just keep my enemies closer or something like whatever. I mean, why am I even talking? I don't really get that. I had that right to be true already. I mean, how long does it go up to sit on this couch at this stupid conversation? Bye bye.

So, let's before we get to the main attraction, let's see what Eliza's doing, okay? Fresh off of Family Scandal, Eliza wasted no time annoying the fuck out everybody on Southern Charm. Let's see Eliza's clips. So Eliza comes out, I don't know what she's wearing, there's like beads and charms whatever, but like the entire segment that she's out there, whenever she talks, you're just here rattling,. You're just here like, sounds like I can't even make it. I'm trying to make it with like your buzz. Yeah, you're making it in a hearing. I hear it. I just hear this. But this is like lives of talking. She's like, well, thank you so much for having me out here.

Like, they're, you know, it's such an honor to be here. I'm like, I'm going to kill you. Or I'm just going to cry. That's my that's my fight or flight defense. Oh, wait, I just say one one one last thing about the the the Catherine Madison situation. Austin at the end of the segment. Austin goes, he goes, Catherine, I mean, like, do you really think that Madison just like

sitting around was like, Hey, why don't you bring the kids over? I'm like, actually, yes, I specifically think that's probably what happened to Austin. Don't you know how it works when you've got kids and someone else has kids and you want to get them together? There's that, like, I'm mad, sorry, residual madness. Residential anger. I'm out. My mouse.

So Eliza just start sobbing, right? Because Andy's like like so you know He's a fan of this so right after your dad What's her dad's name chip? Is it like chip like chip? or a gromm or or like Dudley or I? Think it's like chip or something The father chip or see just had an affair and that must have been real hard on you Eliza

I'm like oh my god stop cuz I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Oh my god. It's a lot. It was like, can we talk about something funny? There's a lot. Whoa, okay. Let's talk about your best friends. They went on a flight and never came back. Your thoughts. Okay, well maybe, okay oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm like, oh yeah, chef. You came in with Eliza, both coaked out of your fucking brains in my mind. I don't know if that's a fact, but you both acted like it. And then she acted like a total asshole. So please stop acting like you had nothing to do with this. And she's like, I'm also 23. And really? Because Catherine was like, what 19 or some shit when she started on this can be break Yeah, exactly. Catherine just staring out her with evil Hermas. She's like Like I'm gonna be polite. I'm gonna be polite

Uncomfortable thing where she's like grossed out to you. She's just looking at her like girl girl I wish I could feel for you right now, but I don't So Eliza what do you see in Ashley? I see the good and everyone that I'm welcome in my life, and she didn't hurt me, so why am I going to be mean to her? I hate this with people. You know, I hate when people do that, because then it gets, this, she is a perfect example of why when people say what they didn't do it to me

Why they're really shitty people, okay? So let's just keep going so yes, it's Ashley analyze it's like well I mean I knew that she'd said mean things to Catherine. I'd heard that but I don't know she talked shit about everyone here Yes, you did you've watched the entire show you've been on the show since you were a kid give me a fucking break Yeah, exactly and and lies and ask your still friends They still talk on a blue moon and her family is still friends with Thomas. I think it's odd asking Liza limhouse if she's like friends with Thomas and like I don't think I even realized when Liza showed up a few years ago Thomas and like I don't think I even realized when Liza showed up a few years ago,

just how young she was because Thomas is in his 50s and she's like 21 at that time. Now she's 23. That's like 16. She was like 15 or 16 or 8 years old. And the point is this though, like I just remember like when I was 21, 22, I was not counting, you know, people in mid-50s as my friends. And I'm not saying that you can't be friends. It's not to be ages. I just think that there are like, it's actually more on the older person's, like I even now

as an ancient 40 year old would have a really hard time socializing with a 21 year old. Like how does that happen? How do you connect? And so it's like it's weird that there's even a friendship between Thomas and Eliza to ask about. Well, this is, and this is me coming back around finally to why this is, just makes you a bad person when you just say they didn't do it to me

because he's like, well, what does your family think about Thomas' legal issues? And she's like, and Catherine is like, disgusted with that question because this fucking show is going to try and bring Thomas up every five seconds, even though he's not here anymore. And she's like, well, you know, Thomas didn't do any of that stuff to me, so I'm not going to leave him high and drive for something he didn't do to me.

It's rape. Okay, these are allegations of rape. Can we stop pretending that he just like he's being accused of like not paying his parking tickets? That's city. Yeah. If somebody is accused of raping, yeah your answer should be a little bit more than just like, you didn't do it to me, you didn't rape me. So maybe you didn't do it to me. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, I do think that there is, there are situations when you can be like, listen listen like I never had a problem with this person So I'm fine with it whatever, but I think that like when you start getting into rape allegations

Yeah cancer can be just like what he didn't do it to me. Yeah, I don't know Unless you're a commuilogrammer, so So now we move on to Chelsea segment So now we move on to Chelsea segment. Candy Kicks are off. He's like, OK, well, thanks for the two minutes of sobbing over nothing. Get the fuck out.

OK, we're going to talk to you. Just like that. She leaves it sounds like the entire percussion section of the Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra, which is not a real orchestra. I just made that up. So anyway, so the Chelsea segment and Andy's asking about Nick, the heartthrob, we've always wanted to see and forgot and even existed. And Andy's basically like, well, is there a chance Chelsea that Nick might have a girl in every port? I mean, he literally

sails to different ports. He might literally have girls in port. Yeah, he's cherry watch what happens live this whole time. He's like, so does he have a girl in every port? Is it rough, C's? Do you feel like you're drowning in this relationship? Okay, Abby, we get it. Chelsea's like, well, we communicate often and well, which unlike does that mean that they're like having like sexy face

times in every port. I think that's probably what that means that's what i assumed i don't i don't know i don't know i just always think shell sees more of a like you want to see my new wallpaper she's that kind of face timer but um yeah she's like we communicate and and he's like how dangerous is his job because he mentioned his job is dangerous. Like is that a thing? It's like, oh yeah, two people died on his less tour. I'm like, what the fuck? Maybe he's just like not a good sailor. Like, no, don't say that.

Just like me dating. I'm like, oh, you could die within two weeks. Let's try the sad. I don't know what you're really saying with that dangerous. I mean, I saw, I mean, I did see the film, all those lost, which, which convinced me that I'm never going to try

to sell from like California to India, wherever he was doing in that boat. But I probably wouldn't have done that anyway, to be honest. So there. Yeah, me me there. So the question is, as a knowledge, Chelsea, your dad says you only choose guys who weren't around, you know, and people are saying, maybe you

should listen to your dad. And she's like, well, my dad just, you know, sometimes I've been in relationships with people. And then I lock him so I leave my family. So he just didn't want me to leave the family. And he's like, well, what an Austin thing when Chelsea's dad called him a house cat. And everyone starts cracking up. And Austin's like, I mean, I was kind of confused because, you know, because Chelsea's like the house cat here and it's not me. I'm like, definitely not a house cat.

Like. No, I'm his hand. He's definitely not a house cat. Like... Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who's like a gamer who don't go out much. And Cameron's like, um, now I think what he meant is that you're a submissive who-ass. Okay. That's what he means. I feel like none of them understand really like what a house cat is. First of all, I'm resentful of Chelsea's dad calling Austin a house cat because house cats are adorable.

And I think it's a lovely thing to be called. I would love to be called a house cat. And I think that Austin is not a house cat at all. Like if he's like, if we're going to call him an animal, I mean, he's Fosie Bear, first of all, we've already we've already established that. And he's like Fosie Bear without the puppeteer. So just like a limp Fosie Bear on the ground. And when you look at it, you like get really disturbed because you always know Fosie Bear is being full of life. But the puppeteer is not there, so the illusion is ruined. So he's a disillusioned Fuzzy Bear.

Yeah, okay, yeah. And also I think probably is that, probably just meant Austin probably shits on the ground, you know, like whatever it was, it wasn't a compliment. So she's like, so are from my dad. And Andy says, well, there's so many who has to actually work for a living. Do you feel like an anomaly among your trust fund friends?

And she's like, I'm not going to blind people for being rich. And often's like, yeah, that's not fair. I mean, you're only been pointing one person with that comment, Andy. And his name is Shepherd over there. He's the only one with the trust fund. He's the only one. It's like really because he's not the only one whose parents paid for his beer. You jackass. Yes. I like that. Chelsea goes, it's not their fault that they have a trust fund, which is like such an amazing condescending view of like rich people Which is like appropriate. I should say it's like it's it's perfect. It's a negging a negging if you will But by the way, those chef has a trust fund, but like Catherine comes from like a big family and

And Well Whitney Whitney is has the actual actual uh inherited and then yeah and then there's someone else well Thomas Ravenel was on the show I mean the point is like the trust on thing is not a crazy thing to lob at this cast yeah I'm like so mad at such random shit today. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like really in a full items.

Yeah, well, I think her answer was good because she's like, it's no, I don't care. I don't ever bring up how much money they have. What do I care? And she's like, uh, Andy's like, yeah, but I mean, it's not like you guys all have jobs, Austin. Like if you don't have a trust fund,, it's not like you guys all have jobs Austin Like if you don't have a trust fund, but it's not like you're working either and Craig's like, well whose fault is that? I guess like blaming Bravo for giving them money. I'm like, I'm sorry. I think if you don't have a job the fault is actually yours I may guess you could blame the job market, but

Probably yours Craig. Yeah, you're right And while they're saying they work on Bravo, so that is their job, right? And so, and Shep's like, well, I mean, God, Andy, it's not like I'm taking government money. I mean, it's like the only way some people will ever respect me is like, oh, Shep, look, he works in a coal mine.

Like, that's a good person. He works nine to five. He must be a good person. And Austin's like, yeah, coal mine. Oh my God, it's like good person. He works nine to five. He must be a good person and also is like, yeah coal mine My god, it's like these guys. I'm like you know, I can't know for fucking idea. Yes I was like also like he works in a coal mine for nine to five to support their family in a dangerous job That's probably gonna kill them in five years is a better person than you you mother fucker who does nothing But fuck with everybody's lives

and treat people like shit and fuck like 9 million people a week. Yeah, I mean, like I did, I actually understood the logic he was going for, but it's like dude, don't try to, don't do the coal miner thing though. Like that's not, that is going to be amazing. Like just say, like, oh, if I had a 9 to 5, I'd somehow be more like virtuous, like say that. But when you, but he could say coal miners, it's like, oh if I had a nine to five I'd somehow be more like virtuous like say that but when you He could says coal miners. It's like oh man. You were going to hear it now shepard. This is not the right This is not the path to go down and then Austin just you know lapping it all up like it's a little puppy dog Yeah, and uh and and they're and it was interesting because you you mentioned before that how they are alluding to being on Bravo being their job

And Austin's like yeah, when I when I'm Charleston I had three jobs Yeah, you know like I had three jobs, but like since I don't have to have one like I don't have a job anymore You know and like and Chelsea's like, but sweetie that's the thing for you. It's an option But for me, it's not an option. He's like oh You're in the exact same position as me. You're in the exact same position So he's basically saying you're on TV too. You don't need to work a job either and she's like, oh, you're in the exact same position as me. You're in the exact same position. So he's basically saying, you're on TV too, you don't need to work a job either. And she's like, no, I have to work a job

because I have standards for myself. Yeah, I have self-esteem. You know, she's like, I mean, if I want the lottery, I'd have a job, but she goes, no, you wouldn't. You go to Costa Rica, sir. You even talked about her. And she's like, that doesn't mean I'd quit my job.

If I'm not working, I feel worthless. And then they just kind of just get a cool minor and go surfing. Is that what you're saying? But then they cut to chef after she says worth this. He's just like, oh, he's just like tapping his fingers on the couch. I'm like, tapping his leg really fast.

You fucking loser. And I also like when Chelsea goes I mean come on I'll start working at 14 my first job was Bushhawgan pastors. Bushhawgan? I don't know what that means. So I thought it was really funny. So now we move on to why was Austin talking so much shit about Chelsea this season when he got caught with the screenshots from Madison and Austin is like, so why are you talking shit? And he's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. It's seen right now. I don't know why I was talking shit. I mean, yeah, well, first you'd probably be like, I don't know why I was doing it. And then it then it then starts to come out. Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Sorry. No, I had nothing on the end of it. No, that was the end of it.

Well, he's trying to say that he was venting. He's like, well, I was just venting to Madison, but that's not what they're talking about only. They're talking about when you went on fucking Instagram on Chelsea's post and started commenting at people who were saying he were a loser and going off and saying, you wouldn't date Chelsea when they were saying, good for you, Chelsea, dumping this loser for someone hot. And he was saying, well, yeah, I wouldn't date Chelsea when they were saying good for you Chelsea dumping this loser for someone hot and he was saying well yeah I wouldn't date her anyway I need someone with a sex drive and shit like that it's not just you venting to your girlfriend and a guy.

Exactly. Yeah he's always trying to make himself just look like it was just innocent but he was you know stirring up a storm on Instagram and being ridiculous and then making comments about Chelsea's sex drive. But do and then making comments about Chelsea sex drive But do you ever think that maybe her sex drive wasn't that high because her option was you at the moment Nothing to make a dick soft Like Austin around and Austin's like no, I just like you know with Madison She just has a higher sector. It was more about how I like Madison more because she's more of a higher sex drive and cameras like

Well, that's what a relationship is all about. Yeah, Cameron. By the way, no one's talking to you, Cameron. All right. Get the question is, well, you tried to reform Austin Chelsea. Remember when you made an effort? Remember and then Chelsea, uh, your friendship with Austin. Oh, she said, she said that she steps relationship with Austin was a farce or whatever based on partying. And she's like, that really bothered me. I was like, really because you guys said that you were mad at Austin because he wasn't out parting with you enough. And your relationship is obviously a forest because you've thrown him under the bus two years in a row after trying to sexually assault the girl that he was with Chelsea at the

time. Yeah. And Chelsea is just like, whatever. Austin asked for my advice and he could take it or leave it. I don't care. She doesn't care. I've been on Survivor. I've dealt with much harder than you.

Yeah. She's like, well, that was my advice You know and steps just so mad at because chef knows he can't come up against Chelsea You know because she doesn't even give a fuck. Yeah, and then Andy goes all right Well, thanks for being here Eliza. I was like wait, I thought she left a segment ago. I used to hear the whole time I thought she was gone too. I had already kicked her off. No, she left now. I was like, okay. All right Well, that was good Eliza good contribution I thought she was gone too. I had already kicked her off. No, she left now. I was like, okay, all right. Well, that was good.

It was like good contribution. So now Madison arrives. And so it's all this like excitement as Madison the Qua comes onto the stage. And we say this is gonna be really intense. And Craig said, if the ever there was a time to take my Adderall, it's now, like this is who has Adderall calming.

Like, what do you do? What do you do? I would not think this was actually a good Adderall moment. And then Austin, like, Massacons on stage and Austin's like, yeah, don't look at the teleprompter, not because it's not recommended, just that I've like spat on it a lot

and just look really gross right now. Just like look over here. Mike, Austin, we don't need you to be the producer on set here. Okay, she's like, she's like a grown woman who's been like shooting on a reality show for a little bit. She can handle it. Yeah, and he's, you know, of course, but he's a man on this show. He's like, here's how to do over union.

How about shut up Austin? Yeah. So Madison's like, I'm great. I'm really, you asked you to do an okay. And then Andy, he's like, I'm great. How are you? How else do you do? OK. And then Andy, he's like, welcome, Madison. She's just like, Andy. Everyone's already so worked up. And he goes, so how are you? She is great.

So what's the status of you two? We're not together. So you're not even friends with benefits. Oh, Andy, I didn't say that, Andy. It's insane. We have benefits. We haven't seen benefits right now. 2% cash back, Andy.

Thank you. We get Amazon points, Andy. It's like, well, we're not not together, Andy. And he's like, well, one was the last time you bumped, right? It's like, last night. So then Andy goes, I promise we're not going to play that video again for you today, because we've seen it a lot. Just get a hear of the video again.

You're in scene. You're in scene person right now. Sadly, they did not actually play it. So he's like, so you claimed you didn't hook up with those two women. Is that true? And Catherine's just like, so you claimed you didn't hook up with those two women. Is that true? And Catherine's just like not shaking your head. You know, she's not going to even try with Austin because he's been such a prictuer.

And he's like, listen, I'm being honest. It's a heart attack. I don't know how her attacks were known for their honesty. You know, you do have heart disease, but on the other hand, you will get some good advice from that heart attack. Okay. It's going to be honest with you. Yeah.

I wonder how many false alarms he's had with his heart because he's not being honest at all. So, so basically, Catherine's like, you slept with the blonde one. I know he's up with the blonde one. Yeah. Greg backs her up. He's like, yeah, there was no three. There was no three. Somebody did sleep with one of them. And then they just that's that's fine. You know, like after

all of this, after all of this denying for a year in him lying and lying and lying and lying, he's like, Oh, well, you know, Andy, I blacked out. So I was to talk about it. Remember Yeah, because Andy is like, so why were her panties off? He goes, ah, Andy, Andy. Andy. Andy. Andy, I honestly don't remember. I mean, I don't, I don't, that's between her and her panties, Andy. I don't, I don't, I'm being as honest as cardiovascular disease right now.

And I'm like, I don't, I don't, I blacked out while we were having sex. And I do not remember what happened after that. Andy, honest is cholesterol running through my veins. And Andy and he brood your cruising for a bruise and mister. Austin. So yeah, he just blacked out and he doesn't remember. And he's like, well, how did he? Okay, let's get this.

So he possibly cheated in the three. Some yet Madison hooked up while they were on a break, but she's the crazy one according to all the males on this show. And Katherine's like, yeah, it's a double standard with man. There's a pattern for the man to blame the girl. And they're like, so were you broken up when Madison slept with her guy when she got revenge? Yeah. And the thing is that, well, the thing is this chef is like, yeah, we're all broken

up. We're all broken up. The implication being that if they weren't broken up, that they are, that they are like real voting and Madison is still then merited. And it's like that's, that's actually not true. I mean, two rungs do not make a right, but I don't see, two rungs don't make a right, but her wrong is not so above and beyond worse than what Austin did. And so, Chef is sort of like implying that if they weren't broken up, he still has the right

to just say all these things that he's been saying about Madison that she has been the evil one. So that to me, like struck a bad chord with my brain. Yeah. And her and chefs like, well, they tweeted that they definitely wait, they tweeted they were definitely, I don't know, they're like trying to come up with all these like, were they together or weren't they together? No, no, no, and Austin's like well you know we were together but then I found out that she was on the town with her friends and then so I got mad and it's just like it's so immature at this whole relationship and also it doesn't matter because they're still boning anyway and they're gonna anyway and it doesn't just it's like trying to follow the fights of your friends who were

really dramatic couples yeah and you fall into it one time where they're like, oh my god, she's such a bitch to me. And it's like, he's such a bitch to me. And then before you know it, you're like in the middle of their drama. And then they make up and then everything's your fault because you listen to both of these idiots. Exactly. And then they just never stop. Their whole life is fighting and their petty stupid dramas.

And you have to get people like that out. So to Madison Austin, I say, I'm getting you out of my life when I'm having dinner anymore. I'm secure to toxicity. Well, and I will say this, I do think, Austin is sort of a shit person because I will say, I mean, I'm jumping had a little bit, but when we get to the white trash stuff, et cetera,

I think we've mentioned this on the show before. Clearly, there was a moment where Chef was basically just supporting Austin because they, you know know Austin and like probably after this whole revenge sex thing happened, Austin was like, I can't believe she had revenge sex. And Craig, and chef was probably just being supportive and saying, you know, whatever, get rid of her. She's like, why trash? And then of course, Austin goes back and tells Matt that to Madison and causes this entire

war. So it's like,. I mean Austin is He's at the he's at the core of all this bullshit right now, which is why he has always and I love that he gets caught in it later He's such a little shit talkery goes to everyone to go see the one with the gossip and then he shit talks everybody around each other And then get some all riled up and he's like what I didn't say any of that. It's like oh, yeah bastard So Madison's like let me just stop you right there because what happened was the bull party I was there the blonde was at the party and I said woman to woman yes or no did you fuck him and she said yes and then after that I said I am done I'm done and remember I didn't even

talk to you for and also goes 24 hours yeah it's like they're worked. They're worked. And Cameron just pipes and said that it's not a solid relationship I really love husband tells her to shut the fuck up. Why don't you sit the fuck down Cameron? Please know what's talking to you, ma'am? Exactly and Madison's like, um, I think you need to focus on your own relationships and leave hours alone Which is true? These people are sitting here complaining that they're all being dragged into it But look they're the ones were actively going and commenting on it and passing judgment about it. Yes. I mean, you know, listen, if you want to do that, get a podcast, okay, then you have total

right to do that, but otherwise, don't complain about getting dragged in and comments about it incessantly, okay? Well, then they're defences. Chelsea's like, well, don't stop involving us if you don't want us involved and Craig's like, yeah, Austin calls me crying, because you're like posting pics with these three Italian guys on Instagram. And then they show the Instagram pic and they're like dudes and speedos. Yeah. They're just kind of all hugging.

And he's like, and your legs are all up on them. And then you get mad at him for taking some girl to see where all this just. Oh, did he just take her to see where? Why don't you mind your business? Well, and the thing is I Mean I guess I guess so the Again, it's a situation where basically what's happened is like awesome called up Craig because of this photo Craig probably said something and then awesome probably just like brought that back to Madison You know, and then that's how I guess they get all tangled up

But what I also thought was interesting is, she posted a picture with the three Italian guys, and they're all like, can you believe she posted a photo with a ton of guys, and crazy anarex, we're all up like this, so it's so sloty. But then when Austin brings a girl to SeaWorld, the first thing Shep says is, how do we lose a friend, right?

It was a friend, right? So like they're like totally willing to contextualize what's happening with Austin. But not with her. They'll always give him the benefit of the doubt, but not her. Yeah, exactly. And they're like, he just keeps calling, goes crying.

And then, but you didn't, oh, and then, you know, that DM situation, you know, like Danny didn't even send that, uh, wait, what did she say? She said, who, what, what they're talking about the DM. So they're talking about the DM and, well, because here's the thing by the way. I lost her mind. The other thing that gets me mad is that like, from what we can

tell from everything here, the person who's involving everyone in this mess is Austin and not Madison, but Madison is the one that's taking the law. The other thing that gets me mad is that from what we can tell from everything here, the person who's involving everyone in this mess is Austin and not Madison. But Madison is the one that's taking the fall. They are angry at Madison because if she posts a picture with the three guys, then more power to her. She deserves to take a picture with three hot atollins after doing with Austin. But they're angry at Madison and they are at Austin And Austin is the one who seems to actually be actively involving other people. So anyway, yeah.

Now they're talking about the DM about gentry, right? So Craig's like, I mean, you were the one who sent the DM, not Danny, so everything is your fault. I don't know why you're blaming Danny for telling me because you're the one who sent it. So we shouldn't even be in trouble for this. You're the one who did the problem in the first place. You're the one who did the crime in the first place, basically. I was going to say. Yeah, but you were the one who made it a big deal when it didn't matter to me,

you know, because she didn't actually send the DM. Like Danny Madison didn't even send that. And she's like, listen, after that video taken, all my clients in the hair salon, we're like, girl, get out there. You want to meet my friend? I've got, where like girl, get out there, you wanna meet my friend, I've got a friend gentry and I said, sure, and then she sent him a message, what's the big deal? I think that actually sounds like a totally reasonable like backstory for why that all happened. Like actually, that makes sense to me, believe it or not.

Yeah, and she didn't send it to you. Like someone said, my friend Madison would meet you or wants to meet you or whatever So Danny's like oh really well, I'm talking first because I've heard a neffi or shit chat around the town I was like oh, and I am sorry to be cursing like that, but I'll say it again. Chitchat. I'm sorry I said it. I said it and Madison's like find them bring it on and she goes oh my god you are Madison's like, find them, bring it on. And she goes, oh my God, you are exhausting. I cannot believe you just said bring it on to me.

You're like, you weren't exhausting me right now. You were just not a good person. So Danny basically, you know, but then like Danny seems like she's ready to go in on Madison, but then she goes in on Craig, because Craig is the one who caused us all to become a thing because You know, it's just like it's such a it's like it's correct did make it into a thing right because he didn't he played telephone

As chef to crack play telephone And I thought that Austin was single, okay, I mean I just thought Austin I mean I love and Craig's like oh god And so the question Danny's all crying and worked up like she can't even get it out you know Danny you were gossiping with Craig Craig should not have taken it but he did take it you got called out for it just say you're sorry which you did and it's not that huge of a deal like why are you sobbing I mean I I think Danny Danny is within her rights to be annoyed because as far as she can tell, like this girl has hit on her boyfriend and it's like, it's shady.

But the thing is, it's been clarified a few times now. So there's no reason. Like, it's been clarified where like, any time this subject comes up, like the animosity should be directed specifically at Craig. Because he's the one who caused the stupid situation Because he was just gossiping you know, it was such a stupid gossipy moment Yeah Built off of like a misunderstanding and and whatever and and like

The fact that like Danny is like now I think she's just like whipped up into it to see because she's an emotionally heightened state being on this stage I think she doesn't even know where she is. She doesn't know the words coming out of her mouth. Because she thought she was going to have a really good argument against Madison, like to fight her and Madison just like swiped her down, like she's so bored. It's an ad dandy's crying and all worked up. And Craig's like, no, this is Madison's fault. Like, are you kidding me? And then the question is like, well, was Madison complicit and then he's like, yeah, she was. Madison goes, now you know, I don't like you trying to start all this shit.

She's like, I started nothing. You reach out to my boyfriend. Madison just goes, is she crazy? She's crazy. Am I crazy? And then Chelsea goes, no, you are, because she was really trying not to make it a big deal. You know, Craig is one of blue and out of proportion. And then he's like, oh, I did was try to mitigate it. I was like, wait, what did you try to mitigate it? You didn't, Danny. You did not try to mitigate it. You changed everything around your psycho. No, you were trying to pass on that fucking gossip and also you don't know that Craig Is gonna go to Austin one of the guys he hangs out with that his girlfriend has been hitting on daddy's way

I mean come on yeah, give me a break. So then now Danny is getting in full like soap opera mode She's like I have many reasons to be upset with you Many reasons to be upset with you. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m- Once again, daddy. So Andy's like, so let's now let's talk about white trash hairstylist. OK, so Madison, when you heard she up called you a white trash hairstylist, how did you define that? She's like, well, I think it means working class that doesn't have any money.

And that I don't like to Candle to his family. He's got money. And she's like, Candles, who uses candles anymore? Garsh. And Austin's like, yeah, when Chef said it to me, Chef said it to me and I was not pleased. I mean, I didn't say anything back like, hey, don't call my go from white trash,

but I was not pleased as, you know, and I did nothing about it. Yeah. I mean I think look of course he said that she cheated and I said good be rid of her. I mean gosh He's probably in government assistance. Why is that so wrong? Yeah, gosh There's something called country and they're like the best folks in the world some of them were even coal miners I know crazy right but then there's red necks. I'm like Some of them were even coal miners. I know crazy, right? But then there's red necks.

I'm like, Chef, I just, I feel like this is not, no matter how logical you might think you're being, this is a losing argument for you, okay? Just say, there's good poor people and bad poor people. And I'm saying that she's a bad poor person, basically. Chelsea's cracking up because chef is just so out of touch is such an idiot and camera goes chef the problem is you're just saying you shouldn't say white you should just say trash just say trash don't say white that's the problem no it's not the

fucking problem Cameron Cameron is she's so enlightened so So Catherine's like, I'm pretty sure at the PLA party you called me white trash too. It's like, well, you were acting trashy. Gorsh, you were sent get off my goat tails and if you, Danny, and I was like, get the fuck out of here. That's crazy talk. And then he got in and started showing up. She goes, well, I think it's pretty large to say trash to someone and chips because sure. I think it's pretty cruel to say harsh and trash in the same sentence, but not say gosh. I'm real sorry, Catherine. Here's a cake. Make a wick. So, um, and he's like, so, uh, chef, you know that it's saying things like that. You're going to get labeled

as the lead. And you say you don't lack being labeled as the lead-ass and goes yeah I really hate that part but I mean if you think armedly this you should see my friends and Palm Beach. Oh do I need them have a yacht? I don't know what a yacht I could use. Oh I hope none of chef's friends have a cat like Austin because they'll keep me up all night long and next you know I'll be at the Colony getting drug now the probations over

Hey, oh yeah, we didn't say congratulations to the council's Lou Ann for her probation being over yesterday She wrote like a handwritten note that was like hard to read on her Instagram That was like to all my friends and supporters and worldwide fans three billion of you I just want to say thanks for giving me this tough year and who knows what the future has in store for me. Spoiler alert, it's a gin ricky. I love that handwritten note because my mom does that when she wants to really guilt us.

So like write a really long note in her perf, she has perfect penmanship and it's like just about what little shits we are and then she takes it has my dad take a picture of it and send us to it send it to us in a text. I'm like, okay. We know it's real bad if we're getting handwritten text from mom. So anyway, yeah, it's like you should see my friends in Palm Beach and Andy goes, oh, sounds like I wouldn't want to.

It's like, okay, that's hilarious, but also Andy, I mean, come on. Stop playing. So, Andy, who goes off to the Hamptons with Kelly Ripa and Sarah Jessica Parker, yeah. So, I appreciate the sentiment. You know what? What I meant was, look, my feeling about Madison, it just stems from seeing someone who wasn't raised properly. I mean, like me, you know, I was raised properly with manners.

I mean, come on, it's like Eleanor Roosevelt said, if you don't have something nice to say, come sit next to me. I mean, the hoity-toyity of society, you know, isn't a bastion of people being nice to each other, Andy. Yeah, at this point, Andy was like oh my god he's like um but Eleanor Roosevelt was the first lady uh not Brooke Astor and she was like oh the manor's woman right manor's yeah madam matters and Andy's like no that was how he's in a New York society but I don't really understand Andy's point either to be honest. He was saying like she's like the president's wife.

It's not like she's the top of society, you know. She's not like she's on her way to take Elmer Roosevelt down to Pegandy. I mean, I kind of feel like she is the top of society. I mean, last time I checked, we're quoting her and not broke aster. Am I right? Am I right, everyone? Are they warning the code in cover? Because I was so determined that Shep is just an idiot.

And I love that he got caught in that. So I didn't know who Brook Astor was either. So I looked it up. I looked up to saying, first of all, the saying, is any gay, except then, sorry, man, I'm not gay. I'm not gay college shaming you. But as most gays know, that line comes from Olympia de Caccus instill magnolias

first of all the Eleanor Roosevelt line yes she says if you don't have something nice to say come sit by me it was not originally from Eleanor Roosevelt it was originally from the well they it's it's attributed originally to Dorothy Parker and then it was made famous by another Roosevelt hold on I put both wrong here someone in Roosevelt Alice Roosevelt long worth daughter of Teddy Roosevelt okay well okay so shepas like double wrong which was hilarious well he was in that he was in a realm he was in the Roosevelt route he should just said as one famous Roosevelt said he should know because it's always trying to act like he's

fucking smarter than everyone in the room and then he gets it wrong and then doesn't know who broke aster was which I don't either but I'm not trying to pretend I'm fancier and also he said hoidi toy toy yeah I don't I don't know specifically who broke aster was by knew that the aster is our like a big family because it's not like aster place in New York City yeah I don't know all I've got to say is this. I think it was just like, I kind of felt like Andy was like, fine, if you're going to mention El No Rose Belt,

I'm going to mention Brook Aster. And we're just going to see how this plays out. And he made him like so fucking stupid. It was beautiful. And how hot is this Andy get to make somebody look dumb? I mean, Andy, when Shep said, is that the manners girl? As in, I'm assuming he meant he was confusing her with Emily somebody looked dumb. I mean, Andy, when when chefs said, is that the manners girl, as in, I'm assuming he meant he was confusing her with Emily Post, you know, or just mismanners,

who Emily Post is not mismanners, by the way. But either way, there's my reference, everyone. See, I can play to you. I can play to you. I mean, Ben won this for union. Yeah. I guess we're just not going to name check Emily Post, we're just going to call it the manor's girl. But when he said that, Andy just looks so annoyed. He had just been arguing with Porsche for like the past three hours. Yeah. It's like, oh, Jesus Christ, I can't believe I have to ask more questions. But it is amazing. Let's just go back actually to the more important point. That ship is saying that like the reason why he's acting this way is because he just feels like he this is how he feels about someone who wasn't raised properly. And then and but then at the same time he gives himself the an out saying like, I mean, I was raised with

manners. Doesn't actually always use them. Well, then what's to say that she wasn't raised with manners and raised properly and she doesn't use them to. Yeah. The point is you were saying she was white trash. That's the point is you were you were saying she was white trash that's the point okay you were being an asshole and then when you're asked to like clarify it you're like oh no I was just saying she's poor and she's i actually think that if you if you're a cost one white trash actually don't think it's like the worst insult in the world so if you're going to say i just have a care is just stand behind it say yeah you she was being

white trash i think like he did with Catherine. He had no problem sticking with it with Catherine. You know, he's basically saying, I'm not saying you're trashy because you're poor. I'm saying you're trashy and your poor basically. It's his way better. So yeah, so he kind of comes for him. And he's like, well, you know, some people are saying that he must have just really been in de Madison and she turned to you down he's like yeah I'm open with that you know I was whispering when this cute blondes ear and she wasn't having it you know and and another theory you know there's

only one thing to worst to chef in losing a girl but that's losing a girl to Austin what a loser losing a girl to Austin what a loser. Gorsh, I'm not upset about that at all. Gorsh, gorsh, gorsh, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And then like Chelsea Bella reading, Chelsea Bella reading, I didn't care at all. I didn't care at all. So anyway, then a couple's therapists writes in and she's like, I said she, I'm assuming it's a she, but maybe not, but she goes, shept is not hate Madison, but in fact loves her.

Will Shep ever admit this to herself? All the way Andy read it was, he loves her. And he's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The knee is swiveling. There is a gust of air in Catherine's hair. Catherine's hair is blowing back, like Beyonce, because of all the air coming from his foot circling around.

And he's like, we are way too strong strong wild, Garsh. Like, I will never admit defeat and she will never do it either. So like knee bounce, knee bounce, fingers going like this, fingers going like this. Everything's finishing. Oh, not loveable or loveable. They're all Garsh. Yeah, and that's why you'll never be together. Not the fact that she totally turned you down. You fucking egotist. fact that she totally turned you down you fucking egotist. So I just put tapping like crazy. So then Craig is like, well, oh Craig you carried a lot of emotional baggage at that airport. Oh God. And so we see the clip of Chelsea being like, you better check between your legs for vagina because I got a bigger dick than you right now.

And it comes back and she's like, oh God, I was more than fine that I said that. I had all the feminists yelling at me. Steeped feminists. A feminist, you know. Well, I still don't understand feminists. Like, why does anyone want to support feminists? No, Craig, it's feminists. But yeah, but still everyone's hungry. fan feminists. Like, why does anyone want to support famines? No Craig, it's feminists.

But yeah, but still everyone's hungry. Right in my pocket square go. So, um, yeah, so Shep is like, Shep turns to Craig and goes, you were frothing. You were frothing like, gosh, there was so much gosh coming up your mouth right then. You were frothing. He was frothing guys

You know as Eleanor Roosevelt said you were frothing like a cappuccino. No one no She did not see that either stabs. She did not as Eleanor Roosevelt once said if you have something to froth about Froth about it with me No, I didn't say that not not even a quote and not that you did to her Didn't say that not not even a quote and not to get to her So then we move over to the weed dinner and he's like you know what I love the weed dinner God that was so funny and he's like what's the deal Catherine like Everyone says that well first you start with the friends He's like Andrew from you know Anna Ho Chi says you guys are Hip-a-creds, okay? Austin. What do you say about that? He's like um, I can't even with Catherine

Like he won't have you notice that he won't even look at Catherine at all He just keeps looking straight ahead and Catherine's sitting right next to him He won't turn to her at all. He's like well Catherine you about the dinner for for weeks Andy, for weeks. And she was, um, not true. And he's like, it's 1,000% truth. That's 1,000% true. I wish you could have told me about your issues beforehand. It's like so insane.

Well, you didn't just pick up the phone and call me. To tell me about issues. You know, people say that a lot, by the way, especially on these shows. Like, next time, just pick up the phone and call me Let's be honest. Can we just have a moment of honesty in real life when anyone has an issue with someone else How often is the very first thing you do is you pick up the phone you call them like let's be honest Yeah, who does that? I don't do it like you like talk to one or two people before and then maybe you broach it

But like people act like oh the very first thing I'm gonna do is call, no, because then I call my friend, I hang out with friend, I have brunch, I'm just having a son, so, and I was like, weird, am I crazy? No, and then you get validation for your feelings, and you build yourself up, and then you grow, and then you do it, you know? Yeah, or shut up.

I'm trying to everyone in your friend group against them, and then they tell them for you, I mean, what do I have to say to you? Do you think everything? Yeah, also Austin being one that should be, Tell him for you. I mean what what do I have to do the group? Yeah, also Austin being one that should be I mean is there to Hippocrates so he's like yeah, but you said I'm silent at you know and I I You didn't know anything about this dinner and blah blah blah and she's like yeah, but then you said

On the after show that I just did that for attention and then they show the clip of the after show He's like well, I think it's just Catherine just got mad because she needed attention and Cameron's like looking at her nails And she's like, yeah, she ain't give two shit about that She ain't give two shit like Catherine's like Cameron's being totally hateful like she's not even hiding her hate at all in this after show Yeah, I'm kind of them basically explains no the reason why I was acting in a certain way was because it brought me back. I thought I would be fine. And then it brought me back. And I remembered losing all those months

where I couldn't be with my children. And so Austin goes, well, I get that. And I'm genuinely sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And Katherine's like, but you just said it was bullshit. He's like, well, I do think it's bullshit. But you just said you were sorry. And then he said it was, Danny is like, you said you were sorry. And then he said it was bullshit. He's like, well, I do think it's bullshit. But you just said you were sorry. And then he said it was, Dan, he's like,

you said you were sorry. And then he said it was bullshit. And you're not sorry. And I can't cry about another thing today. I can't. I can't do it. And then, uh, Seth Austin's like just caught because he's trying to say the right thing,

but he's such a douchebag. So, Seth goes, next time, a mushroom dinner, that's what we'll do. Shrooms. It's like you're time a mushroom dinner. That's what we'll do Shrooms like you're such a shrimp open his mouth of that being a complete dick hole like one time So then So did Madison think that she was gonna get back with Austin on this trip and she's like, yes, yes, I did Until he started talking and I remember that I have to have a poncho with me at all times and I feel like there's no for us. So this conversation is you know why did she say let's talk about

Climati, like we've saved this till the end so she's like you know at that point I had so much rage honestly Andy Ied out. I blacked out and he walked into my knife. He walked into my knife. 10 times. Like, so you and Austin are just. Yeah, I got about. Yeah, like they have, they will take the blame for nothing. Hop.

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She had it coming. She had the right hair. I saw it along. If she had to be dead, it wouldn't have been a issue. She went from Shab's dumb slong. Don't. Don't. You let it would not be an issue She should have wrapped it in cellophane Oh Chicago, thank you for all the joy you brought this podcast over the years and Joy you could have brought me if I didn't have a scheduling conflict, which forced me to drop out of my dream job of being in Chicago.

Yes, scheduling conflict. So let's see here. So now she's like, well, you know, you know, you know, you know, Sha, I felt like he cornered me and I was provoked and I just couldn't help it. He was constantly coming after me. And Danie's like, so Danie, what do you think you were brought into this whole mess? And Craig's like, well, I'll tell you,

she was Madison Blamejerm for the Instagram thing, which was totally her fault in the first place. Yeah, and Danie's like, it was really her fault, and he was like, and true. And not true. So then it's like, so Austin, did you make it up? And then it cuts to Austin back in the production vehicle with a little beret in his hair and his Republican Senator hair.

He's Tucker Carlson hair. And he's like, you know what? I didn't make it up. It was not a lie. And I'm just going to go make it up. I didn't, it was not a lie. And I'm just gonna go out there and I'm gonna say, it was not a lie. Like, I heard it. It's insane what he told me.

He told me he had a glimidia. It was not a lie. It's specifically not a lie. And I'm gonna say it as clearly as that. It was not a lie. Yeah, I'm gonna specifically say to her, that's insane. Girl, girl, sorry.

But it happened, it happened. And the the producer is just and I guess he thinks they're not going to use this footage even though there's a camera in his face and he's mic'd up he's thinking they're not going to use this footage because he's gotten a bur- a burret in his hair so he's like surely they would love a phone cam now he's not he's not really media trains So he's so then after on the heels of him saying it is absolutely true and it was not the producer said you heard it from Sep you heard it you heard this from Sep and he goes yes, and I will say you to figure it out between you two because I didn't make it up And it cuts back to him and he goes so I said, uh, it could have been a misconstrued,

uh, like night talk with Shepherd and like, maybe I took it the wrong way. What was misconstrued? Total head. Total head. And, uh, so it's like, yep, not true. Not true, Andy. It wasn't true. And Catherine goes, uh, are you sure you didn't just make it up for fun?

And Austin's like, uh, no, it doesn't sound like fun to me. It doesn't sound like fun to me, Catherine, it still won't look at her. And Andy's like, I don't understand how it's a misconstrued late night talk. Yeah. It's like, that's insane Andy. You know what? You do not understand that, Andy. Yeah, I think right now.

And Andy's like, so basically, Chef did tell Austin and chef goes no no car musical screw you can't miss construed and then Danny goes I said that I took Danny to a play it was a Greek tragedy and it made me sad hence I was I was Gloom of Medea. Okay? Oh God, so Andy's like, but you guys did date, right? And he goes, eight years ago, and then he's like, I brought my medical records. But anyone wants to look at my medical records. But I would know what asked for it at the end. And finally, Andy, thank, I mean, again, I'm like really like so thankful for Andy at this reading. And he goes, uh, listen, guys, uh, I don't know if you're aware of this, but Chominea's

actually like pretty common. And if you get it, you grow, go on, you take some drugs and after about seven days it's gone and you move on with life is like, uh, is it me? And they're like, it's the stigma. It's the stigma. He's like, but I call doctor jackie from marry to medicine and she said fit is the new way actually i don't understand how that applies here

so that they don't know me only was cracking the up at this point because all the girls are like the stigma and uh... which is true you know I don't want to downplay that because I do see why it was so offensive it was totally shitty of Madison to fucking do this whole thing with shitty in my opinion like we laugh about it but I think it was totally shitty of her I do understand that there's a stigma and all that but Naomi's like she tries to act like she's gonna start sobbing I was like Naomi please shut up to you. At this point, we get you are not about to cry over this.

So, I just can't wait. I think, well, I was gonna wait in on stigma, but there's no point. There's no point. I just think that like, if someone does stigmatize you because you've had a climidia, I think then they should be stigmatized for being an idiot. True, and you're all part of the problem

for not just saying, girl, he did give you that. Exactly. They just perpetuating the stigma. They're perpetuating the stigma. That's actually an amazing point. Like I understand a little bit more why there's a stigma around herpes because that's an ongoing thing. And so business idea that like if you get it, oh, then you can't get rid of it.

And like no one wants to get something they can't get rid of. So like I'm not saying necessarily that herpes stigmas also justified, but I understand a little bit more why okay I get why some people put the stigma by the committee. It's like it's literally it's like tree a bowl. There's nothing. I mean basically for you and you were on the receiving end of it it was like out of your control. Yeah so camera's like well no single woman in their 30s which is just so shady It's like oh god now. She how's she gonna find a man now and she's she's crying cameras right to If that was said about me, I would be mortified any of us women would be You were on the real world and you were on the girls gone wild videos

So let's like discuss that first. Yeah, you're basically a petry dish So please stop I'm just say like not'm just saying, like, not even that. It's just like, don't like talk about mortification when you also have things that like, I personally think are more, we're more mortifying than having Climidia. Yeah. So there's, do you hear that beat? If anybody hears beeping, there is an Airbnb across the street.

And it's this really, really elderly man who looks like a really skinny Santa Claus who wears red clogs is odd. And he keeps setting off his fire alarm and I keep going over there and I'm like, this is all you have to do. Take out the little battery and he just won't do it. So now we're going to have to sit here and listen to this fucking fire alarm. Okay, my phone rang like three times during this, during this. And this podcast is going to be 19 hours long, by the way. That's all right.

during this and this podcast is gonna be 19 hours long by the way that's alright so um uh so now chef is telling so now the thing about like chef telling Austin to tell Madison to shut the fuck up during their big arguments like don't you ever tell her just to say don't you ever tell Madison shut the fuck up maybe you should did it uh and he goes so camera what do you think about that and i'm thinking okay well here's camera's chance to redeem herself and like at least be on a woman's side for once because this one's totally obvious who says that to a like who says that you don't say that to your partner really if it's a woman or a man who says that the fuck you don't do that and so she goes well I was with him you know I agree I got it I mean I was like oh well because here's the thing I think if Shep had said

don't you ever tell Madison, hey, could you like not get involved or not this? But when you sit, I think he was being hyperbolic. I mean, I hate to take Shep side and this, I'm not actually taking a side, but I hate to sort of like give him like any benefit of the doubt. I think he's being hyperbolic during that argument.

But at the same time, it's like you are putting out that idea to a national audience. It's okay to say shut the fuck up to a woman. And it's not actually not okay, really to anyone. So that's why I feel like when Cameron said, I got it. I kind of agreed and when then Austin said, but that's just Jason, so he just shut the fuck up and she goes, he has so many to shut the fuck up. And you know what? I was out of line. So I shut up.

I'm like, you know, I don't like with this. I don't like the message that said. I hated this. I do not like it at all. I hated it. You so I shut up. Like, you know, I don't like with this. I don't like the message that she said. I hate it this. I do not like it at all. I hated it. You're fucking discussing Cameron. And I don't believe for one second that your husband ever told you to shut the fuck up.

A, and B, I don't believe that you sat there and took it when he told you to shut the fuck up. You really think Cameron's gonna sit there and take it if some man tells her to shut the fuck up? No. I don't. She's gross. She's gross. She's disgusting.

And I'm sick of her standing up for all the men on this show. Grow fucking pair, dude. You only stick up for people who are richer than you with a penis and it's disgusting. Grow up support other women. Hmm. So who thought it was wrong for Chef to bring the three-cent girls as a date to Patricia's party. And it's only Austin or Madeline. Literally nobody.

Nobody. I was shocked. I was shocked that no one was like, like, it was a dick move. They're all like, even Chelsea was like, oh, thought was pretty funny. I was like, you know, it was a dick move. I'm sorry. And I even stood up. I stood up oddly enough.

Took an unpopular stance where I said, I supported the women going with Chef, but I don't, but that being said, I do not support Chef bringing the women if that makes sense. Yeah, and let's see how funny Chelsea thinks it is when someone digs up some dude, her fucking guy who's never around is fucking and brings him on the show,

or brings him on the show, rather, sorry. And Chef is like, he was delicious. And Andy's like, well, I guess in this none of you guys have the guts to stand up for yourselves. Then I guess I'll be the one. You're just a petty dickhead. You're a 40 year old dickhead.

Yeah, and Madison's like, well, I'm not surprised at anything hateful, ship, dance to me. But Austin really does respect you, ship. And Chef's like, oh, I've been really good to Austin. Really good. Have you? How have you fucking been good to Austin? Can you name one way?

Yeah. Well, I'm on the show. He probably thinks keeping Austin on the show is his way of being good to him. So Andy's like, for someone who's spousing your upbringing, manners and high society, is this really an example of manners and high society and upbringing? And she's like, gosh, I mean, I'm not going to fight back with this. Okay? This is my way of fighting back by being massively, massively immature.

Gosh, good breeding. Yeah. As Eleanor Roosevelt once said, if you can't find any girls that were in a threesome video with your best friend, then come sit with me! Um, and Sepad mitz, he's like, well, you know, Chelsea in Chelsea's like, um, please say her last name so people don't thank her, mate! He's like, Chelsea Stone, whatever her name is, he's like, the other Chelsea, you know, I know each other and actually have known her a long time and we might hang out again. But okay, the other girl was manufactured by me and approved by Greg. Just bring Greg right into it. And they only said they couldn't even form sentences.

Yeah. Then you could see almost like the life coming back and then Naomi is phased like wait a second I can talk about a skank. Yes Couldn't even make sense is like like next time like try showing up like an avatar creature, okay So he's like well, I the question is chef. Do you regret anything ever at all in your life? He's like well, I guess I regret not giving them the proper amount of respect for their relationship despite all my protestation is course. Like, okay, so basically whatever. So, Dubai, Madison, Danny, they leave Craig gets his pocket score back. Danny has been using Craig's pocket square to like blow her nose and like dot her eyes, while the crying. And he's like, well, I need to get this back for the final looks.

Yeah, I'll need that now. Thank you. Final looks are coming up. So outside Madison and Danny are talking outside of trailer. And Madison's like, honestly, Danny, I really do feel shitty about it. I wish she just would have called me and told me about it because I do not like this. Every time the guys get together, something turns into a nightmare.

Every single time, which is true. And she's like, every miscommunication we've had is the fucking man doing this. But why didn't she say that on stage? Why did she wait until they were standing on 38th Street? Like, I feel like, I don't know. I just feel like it's a missed opportunity like put those guys on blast a little bit Don't let us be the only ones doing it. Yeah, and then I also thought it was funny

Did you notice that chef in Austin? We're having a conversation like in the break where chef is like oh you did a great job You really kept your composure well. I was like oh I was really trying hard. I was hoping I didn't lose it So no you were doing a great job, Garish. Well, approved. Yeah. Yeah. You got there like, as such, shit heads. And I'm wondering how long before after this was before they went through New York's New York City together, wasted and made fun of that homeless lady. Yeah.

Yeah. Which by the way, chef, I mean, I've said this before. So it's not a shocker than anyone listening to this. But Austin is just as bad as chapter that situation. Stop letting Austin on top of everything. So then it's time for the final toast. They're going to bring out beverages and Austin is momentarily excited that it's going to be drop hop. But uh, Catherine goes, I heard it's going to be my teens. So they bring these uh, martinis out and also are these actual martinis? Shep is like yeah

I'm like, why are you why are you guys shading the martinis right now? Yeah, they're like well, those are strong. I mean, this is like the most wasted cast on Bravo like wow my teenies and and he's like well, I want to thank you all for sharing your pathetic lives with us, okay? Now last question while we all have martinis and Catherine goes, water. Even though I'm allowed to drink, thanks Thomas, thanks. So, so it's like, so Naomi, like what's the deal with you? Come on, and so she's like, well, I know that like,

I came off seeming less strong this season, but it's just like I'm in a new relationship. And I wanted to be mindful of another person's feeling. So I know it could look bad. But the truth is, I just want that recipe to be treated and I've been waiting for three hours since Craig pulled it out. So can I eat it now? Please, thank you. And Craig is, you know, focusing on pillows and he's putting his anger in the past. And Andy's like, so Catherine, if you've done drugs in the past five minutes, have you? When was the last time you did him?

How are your boobs while you're doing drugs? Stop talking about that. And then what about Austin and Shep? How is your relationship better than ever? Yeah, we've repaired it and things are great now. Turns out all you really need to do is unite against homeless ladies who are just trying to stay alive. And then Cameron, so we're gonna see another boring mother-history line from you. Now I am one and done. I am done with mother-hurt turns out being judgemental to adults is a lot more fun than being judgemental to the studio. Let's see.

Oh, and then chef, wait, we already did that one. Chelsea. I'm like, this is one hour and 35 minutes long for these shit heads, you know? You guys, fuck you guys. So then what's Chelsea going to do? She's going to go on a new adventure in New Zealand with New York. And he's like, well, I'd like to see him on the show. So like, nope, not his thing, Andy. So a last word from from Shep and she was like, wow, gosh, there was a tough

one for a lot of us, especially because we had to deal with Madison who's a super bitch! And we keep doing it and we keep having fun doing it and we really enjoy each other's company. Except for Madison, the aforementioned super bitch, that's no a Roosevelt quote. And I'm a better person having known all of you, that's for sure. And I'll always be connected to you for better or for worse. Mainly because of different strains of things that have given you all. Am I right Danny? High, Danny? High five, Danny? High five.

No. Cameras like, I believe that. I believe everything, Chef, just said. I believe that Chef, good job, Chef. Good job, Chef. Up, Cameron. So then, Andy's like, well, we asked Patricia to send us a toast via Dorothy Parker.

Who's now just taken over the three union. And you go Dorothy Parker by the way. Yeah. So it's some toast. They should have used Doritos toast. I think Dorinda has the best martini toast. What was her? She's like, well my keenly little love. Truly a relatively cable. No way. What did she say? One is enough. I believe I actually believe I have it right here. To the saying that I'm so happy that you know what? I am part of this. And then you put a lot of guy in the face.

You know? The moment I'm with people. The moment it happens. Every little while you know, you just know when it's white. And it's white. It's red. To Vassayn's eye, I'm so happy. It's on repeat.

Wow. Sorry people. To people on video that couldn't hear that. I was just a during that unintelligible speech But she said one that he's Not enough three machines. Oh my teenies are like boobs. One isn't enough and three is too many Yeah, that's what she said. Thank you. Sorry guys and the Dorothy Parker thing was a like I Like that of Martini to it most three three I'm under the table and four I'm under my host

Yeah, that's right and so they're all laughing the music's like winding up and cameras like panning back and so I'm like no no way Gars I'm gonna do one on the star of the show So like okay fine he goes okay There's wood chips there's steel ships there ships that sail the sea But the best ships are friendships and may they always be it's like thanks chef Yeah, never heard that one before glad we glad we like upstage Dorothy Parker for the old friend ships toast I mean, that's just the manners lady fucking shit fucking moron That's just the man or his lady fucking fucking moron. So that brings us to the end of Southern Charm. I feel like it was the perfect length of a season. My rage today was probably the

most out of control it's been, which just means it's perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect amount of rage. The reunion was like perfectly succinct. There was not like we didn't have to sit through endless, you know, segments where we talked about we talked about Craig and little Craig and stupid shit Like we just had all the good stuff. I felt like everything was addressed to my satisfaction and It was good and and another another fine season I know some people thought the season was was a little slow, but I thought it was perfectly Perfectly good another fine season. I know some people thought the season was a little slow but I thought it was perfectly perfectly good. We have fun. I'll take you to the lunch.

Excited for us to come back already. Yeah, everybody. Thanks so much for being with us this season. We will talk to you next week. We're actually having a long weekend this weekend. So see you. Okay, everybody. We'll see you later. Bye everyone! You can listen to WatcherCrapins ad-free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music app today. Or, you can listen ad-free with Wondry Plus in Apple Podcasts before you go tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondry.com slash survey.