Watch What Crappens - Summer House: Amigos No More

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

The second and final installment of the Summer House (S07E17) reunion looks not so great for Danielle and Lindsay, despite Andy's best efforts to make them see each other's perspectives. Mean...while, Paige spends the hour giving flower glares. Not sure how this group is going to spend a summer together this year.Watch the recap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/84179821See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me today on our reunion sofa is Mr. Ronnie Caram. Hi Ronnie, how are you? Well, hello, Ben. How are you? I am doing great. Thank you. We're here today to talk some summer house reunion, which thankfully was only two episodes long. The reunion is over and I really loved that it was two episodes. That was a really strong two two episodes set. Did not waste too much time with the uninteresting people, just took care of what needed to be taken care of, and now we can all move on with our lives.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, it was nice, right? Wasn't it like old school bravo? Remember when there were only two, and then there were three, and then they tried that shit where they were gonna do four because of that really good Atlanta season. Wasn't that Atlanta where they were like, we're gonna have four reunions now. And the audience said,
Starting point is 00:03:27 no, no, you're not. And then they went back to three. Yes. Wow, good times, guys, good times. Yeah, exactly. So speaking of good times, we're going to San Diego on Friday. We have a show in San Diego.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 So that's all the good stuff. How you doing? Yes. Okay, well welcome back to this reunion for Summer House in. Really next time they should consider getting a pull out so far, four pages side of the room because Jesus Christ. I mean, are they even there? All they do is roll their eyes, a fume, page just fume, smoke comes out of her nose, and
Starting point is 00:05:17 then they are all like leaning on the couch. They're like no one's just like sitting up. They're just all like leaning. Like do you guys need fucking pillows to my They need those pillows with the arms on them, you know that they used to have back in the 90s or you just like husband He put it in your bed. Yeah, yeah husband pillows. Yeah Keep them upright somehow my god strap them in over there Jesus Christ They didn't know what to do without like there's cell phones to text on or like little laptops to watch love Island or minions on
Starting point is 00:05:47 So they're just roll kind of like flopping around on each other holding each other up for support, you know This is the longest in the season that those three have been out of bed at one time I can't even believe they got them to do the re that's why it was only two they were gonna do three reunions But that side of the couch couch fell asleep on each other. Yeah, they were definitely struggling. So anyway, speaking of which though, but the episode opens with Paige right in the middle of a fight with Lindsay. I totally forgotten because I wasn't paying attention on the previous leads and I just pressed play right as it started and as the loop page going, girl, I don't even speak to you. I was like, whoa, oh my goodness, I forgot. I've got to rewind and see what they're fighting about.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So yeah, it was basically like, you know, we're used to prized with Lindsay's reactions and with everybody's reactions to you being a couple Lindsay and Lindsay was saying, no, because it's a couple, you're the chart, and then And then the fight with Paige, Paige saying, I don't even, basically, Lindsay saying, you don't even say anything to my face, you say everything behind my back, it's the weakest form of fighting and Paige being like, girl, I don't even speak about you, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:56 And she goes, now you speak about me, I'm behind my back, and it smells pathetic, fighting I've ever seen. Mwah! You're nuts, you're literally nuts, and not even the cool, like, delicious kind. You get from SponCon.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You're just like crazy gross nuts you find in a gutter. Carl's like, oh, nuts are really nice, Paige. Really nice. You're gonna call somebody nuts, like, that's crazy. Like, you're shaming somebody's nutty good. Like, that is really low-page. But, overall, people are allergic to knots. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That's like so crazy that you'd shame people by saying they're not. So that's absolutely crazy. Let me emphasize that again. That's crazy. And she's like, yeah, and you're nuts too. I was like, what's next? Are real humdingers?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Like, come on. Especially because we're covering jerseys reunion at the same time, but they're like, fuck you, ho, fuck you, whore Fuck you dying asleep you goddamn whore fucking stop it. I wish I had a man to start you on fire with some gasoline Then we come to this neck you're like literally nuts. Well Your nuts. Whoa, I can't that's just like below the belt right there. Oh, so right there. So I got three below the belt, speaking of no pun intended. Okay. And Lindsay's like, I'm rather mean nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Boring. Is Paige wearing that flower on her neck to keep her from falling asleep? Because it's like, I'm falling, I can't fight. Oh, Jesus Christ. I just hurt myself on my cactus. Okay, I'm back. I'm back. What are we talking about? Still, Lindsay? And then there's like a pregnant pause. And then almost on your just your page, say really quietly, bitch. So Amanda, do we ever learn why Amanda has no voice this reunion?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Cause she's like, she's like, oh, Andy, can I talk? So Andy's like, Amanda, did you ever have a problem with Lindsay and girl dating? And she's like, I never had an issue with them dating. I just want all the best for them and then they're gonna figure out their own journey whether it works or not.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And then he's like, okay, that was kind of boring. All right, let's give you a two-barter. Thanks for more of your fakery, Amanda. You're adding a ton. So then, Andy's like, oh, I let's move in. Just kidding, Danielle, don't be triggered. I meant, let's move on. Just kidding, Danielle, don't be triggered. I meant, let's move on. So you guys have solidified a wedding venue.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Let's tell everyone, but Danielle, when and where, okay, Danielle, cover your ears and your eyes. Okay. This is amazing. This is amazing. This is amazing. This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 This is amazing. This is amazing. It looks great by the way. It's great by the way. It's great by this. It looks great by the way. It's great by this. It looks great by this. It looks great by this., destination wedding. And as you can tell by the, you know, by it being in November, like, if Bravo wants to do
Starting point is 00:09:29 some sort of spin-off, like, fall Cassita, like, we're down for it. I'm looking for this post I saw about Danielle saying that she hadn't been, she kind of once Carl and Lindsay started dating that Danielle was the one who pulled back from the relationship, but she called Lindsay before the summer house to make sure they were still on good terms. I just thought that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Has nothing to do with this particular scene. I just remembered it and you forget it if I didn't look at that. So then I looked at my phone, tried to look at that and I still couldn't find it. No, no. No, no. Congratulations, you're welcome. I just wasted two of your minutes. Okay. So you also Mexico. Congratulations. You're welcome. I just wasted two of your minutes. Okay. So you're awesome. Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So I hope today would be a chance that we like got rid of some deep rooted anger. And by the way, in case lover boy doesn't work out, I am still selling dental equipment. So if you have a deep rooted canal issue, I could totally take care of it. Give me a call. But I was hoping that today it could be like a root canal for our relationship. But you know what, we're gonna have to see about those invites, Andy, those evites. Alright. We're gonna have to see about the email addresses we put on that email address.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, it'd be like really cool so though that. Yeah, only like people who support us. Yeah, so all I'm saying is like, Robert from the key of dealership, yes, he gets an invitation. And Robert from Danielle's former relationship, he's a maybe Danielle, probably not. Sorry, probably not. Yeah, you know, we're looking to see if Evai
Starting point is 00:10:56 has a filter that we can filter out people, uh, no support our relationships. So, we're gonna see about those evites. Yeah, I love when people use their wedding invitations as a threat to everybody else. I know. I've said it a million times, but you're asking me to spend like $1,000 on you. A gift, a flight, a hotel room, and then days of my time. Go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I think like you're doing me a favor to go to your white pants wedding. Yeah, fuck off. Exactly. Who else? Over the past six summers, we watched Kyle and Carl build an unbreakable bond, but the summer work conflicts and personal strains had us wondering if this house share could be their last. OK, guys, you ready for some man tears. The vibe is, use it on the verge of quitting.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That's the vibe I'm getting. I'm encarolling on-oh, I'm not valued. And then Kyle's saying, yeah, Lindsay is in his ear saying he's invaluable. And then Kyle yelling, careful, you're a master manipulator, Lindsay. Good luck to my best friend because you are a psycho! So then Andy's like, wow, I can't believe I'm about to ask this question to Kyle and Carl. What's the status of your relationship or as we say on Grindr? So, so.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Well, clearly there's been a change at the front trip. Let's be honest, it's complicated when you work with friends or when you are employed by friends but actually don't do work for them. It's hard you're changing your lifestyle and like adjusting things and trying to figure out like are you a create a Curento guy or a key a tell your right guy like what is it gonna be like it just came to a head You know while I was getting head from Lindsay too, which is convenient But like I take a lot of responsibility because like I didn't open up to Kyle as much as I should be coming into last summer And by it don't didn't open up to Kyle very much. I should be coming into last summer and buy it. Don't didn't open up to Kyle very much. I literally didn't, you know, go to work.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So like, you know, he's giving me a lot of opportunity in life. I didn't open up to Kyle just like I didn't open up. Did we're the lover boy and walk inside to do my job. But I got, yeah, open up my working meals. Yeah. Oh, man. He hold on. He means bells. Hell, y'all. Ugh. Hold on, Andy. Hold on. He means a lot to me.
Starting point is 00:13:07 He means a lot. Kyle does the crying, where he put his fingers under his eyes and then he pulls up. He's like, oh, oh my god. I'm hanging my eyelids right now, Andy. You're gonna be hung. You're gonna be getting to the town square in the western. You're about to be hung eyelids.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Just kidding. You're okay. We're not gonna be hanging you after all. Just don't rob a story anymore, eyelids. Okay, stop wrong. The new flavor of his lover boy is going to be Kyle's tears. So Andy's like, Kyle's not a fair assessment of where you guys are today.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And he comes like, well, I knew the worst stuff was getting challenging and like his role was already shifting into events and market driven as opposed to VP of sales. And like, it was difficult because he thought VP of sales meant that he literally was going to go sailing every day. But it sales. And like, it was difficult because he thought VP of sales meant that he literally was going to go sailing every day. But it's just more like, you know, I was doing my best to give him like insane leeway.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And I just was trying to figure out what to do. And like last year I kind of felt taken advantage of. Well, why immediately blame Landy's influence for his work progress? And Sierra just looks to page and they give each other ease evil smiles. Like, hee hee hee look. Woo hoo. What are you two even doing over there? You don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You just sit there and give each other dirty looks about everything. Say do something. Okay, you're out of bed. Make the best of it. So, get a curry on set. I mean, at least do that. You know how they don't even make that?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Get a curry on set. The curry. Oh least do that. You know how they don't even make that? Get a curry on set? The curry. Oh. I thought they'd make this like make you curry. You're out of bed. No. It's like, are you kidding? They won't even make their curry.
Starting point is 00:14:34 We already learned that from Andrea. They were so shocked to see coffee. You think, oh my god. Coffee. Coffee. That's insane. Was this up someone in Dallas? It's a lot of us.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So Kyle is, so Kyle's like, well, I can see how you would think that, like, one of you was in my ear. Yeah, and tell him that, like, I wasn't in your, she was not in my ear. Not in your ear at all. Not at all, like, so I can see how it sounds like that. And Kyle's like, yeah, but I got worse.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And he goes, well, you know, like, I come home and I like, I vent and she, like, yours is things. Cause I basically, I come home and I'm like, babe. And she's like, babe, and I'm like, babe. And she's like, babe, and I'm like babe and she's like babe and I'm like babe And she's like babe and she's like babe, so you know like I vent Yeah, you know she sees things, but I make my sorry. I was kind of slipping into call there Oh, I make my own decisions, so please don't make it about Hi, don't make it about her Lindsay. Don't make it about her. Lindsay, don't make it about her, Lindsay.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Well, she also complained about your salary. Reliant. I have a firearm in X. I dare anybody to try and climb over the fence of my shoulder to get to the yard that is my head, because I've got a fence made out of a flowering you're all going to buy, so try. So, Amanda's like, well, when I was at work complaining, like, I just want to say, like,
Starting point is 00:15:47 you know, Kyle's giving me advice to support my needs. And like, you know, you don't know what the other employees or bosses are dealing with. And I just like tried to explain to Kyle that like, you have to vent to Lindsay because like that's your relationship, Kyle. And then like Lindsay's giving advice based on what Carl is saying to Kyle Andy Kyle Andy of a goddess munchamolly and Lindsay's like that's right and guess what my advice was I was like you need to come to Kyle and you need to threaten to start making the sport of tossing him in bars because he's a very short person and you deserve more money or I will kill history. I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Lindsay. Yeah, she's like, I said not to blind side your best friend. That's all I ever did. I stood up for Kyle. I said, if you're going to quit, then you have a discussion with Kyle. No, man of mine will just quit a job. And also ask for 30,000 more dollars. So Kyle is like, yeah, I can appreciate that. I can relate to it. And so I'm in, it's like, so Kyle, do you want to apologize to Lindsay? And he's like, I apologize for pinning that on you. And Amanda's like, so Lindsay was like, not in his ear. She's like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. This is the great exoneration. Thank you very much for this.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Thank you very much. I'm sorry, okay, because again, it was me trying to simplify a complicated issue You know, it's like when I pull out a screw gun to put together IKEA furniture Is this I'm not supposed to do it and they never stays up. Okay, I don't have one bookshelf to still together I was like, okay now I can see it's not just Lindsay is not just something looks around confused I'd love that this whole thing is about yelling that Carl is programmed by Lindsay. And meanwhile, Amanda is literally in Kyle's ear
Starting point is 00:17:33 in front of all of our faces, telling him exactly what to say. And Kyle's like, why died, going, okay. Whatever Amanda said, that works for me. Yeah, Lindsay's in her ear, God forbid, in his ear, like, who could ever allow such a thing to happen? So then Andy moves on to the whole thing about Kyle venting in the Hamptons about Carl.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And Andy's like, what was it like when you heard Kyle, they are all your dirty laundry when you couldn't defend yourself? And Carl's like, well, I didn't really have a lot of words. And then I showed up, coked up, and I forgot my laptop. And like, and I'm out of my mouth. I wish I had the opportunity to say that. But I'm incredibly ashamed and embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And he sort of, he goes on. And now it gets like actually quite serious. Because he starts talking about addiction. And he starts to cry. And he starts talking about like he was just, you know, he was uncomfortable with his addiction being brought up so publicly in that way and then he relates to how like, you know, he ultimately winds up talking about how, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:34 in season one, he was so, he was really drunk and wasted every time he did an interview, he was drunk and he talked about his brother's addiction issues on camera without his brother's consent and then his brother tuned in to watch and like just heard him airing it all out and it caused a big rift where they actually stopped talking and they never ever talked again because of that and so I was like oh my god. I was like that was that was that way that was so sad that was so sad crying in that part because that was really bad
Starting point is 00:19:02 where Carl's like yeah you know my brother was so excited to watch TV and see me on TV. And then what does he see me railing into his drug addiction? And then, you know, then he died. It's like, you know, oh, so sad. And they're all crying. They're all crying. And at one point, Lindsey takes the tissue and she hands it to Andy to give to Amanda.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And Andy gives it to Kyle to give to Amanda. And Kyle just starts saying, you're wiping wiping its own eyes and they're like, Kyle, you have a wife in case you forgot. So Kyle apologizes, you know, he's like, I've never been more ashamed. I mean, you don't really need a reminder about how fucked up you were. I mean, my God, I remember you just trying to learn, remember how to write things down because you didn't have your computer. I'm not trying to snore things out of your big pen that day.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It was really rough. You don't need to be reminded. I think the funny thing about that from Kyle is that Kyle is fucked up literally every second of this show. And I know his big thing is like, but I'm not fucked up at work. But your job is traveling around the country getting fucked up with fans in bars. So you kind of are drunk all the time at work. And I just think it's weird that nobody calls Kyle out on his utter hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like, Kara, it's like you're only allowed to talk about someone's alcoholism. I guess once they make an issue out of it and say it, it's like once I say I have a drug addiction, we can all talk about it. But until then, it's completely off limits. And I think that's where Kyleaua was really out of bounds. Near the one who really looks like you have a problem here and you're ripping into somebody on national TV who's actually trying to help himself. So I know you apologized, but here I just wanted to bring you an order of shame.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So here's some shame for you. Enjoy that. Here's some shame skins with some bacon bits and cheese on top. Game show me those. Here's the new shame edition of Love for Boy for 2023. So yeah. Oh, no. So you've just everyone's just like sad. It's just sad and it's serious. So then they go to break and everyone just scatters from the sofa. It's everyone's like, this is too serious. We got to go. I want to go back to I want to go to any place other than the sofa right now. Yeah. And so basically he asks, like, how did it feel watching Danielle defend you so hard?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Because, you know, watching this season, it is hard to remember that Danielle and Lindsay and Carl were getting along fine until like Lindsay didn't even know really anything was going on until towards the end of the season with with this so She stood up for him and Carl's like, oh, that was amazing I'm like even I even had a talk store and be like Danielle like I appreciate that Danielle Hey Danielle, do you remember getting that talks and Lindsay's like And Danielle's like yeah, and then I texted back, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would do it in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And I was like, I was just venting, and that's, you know, and so then let's see, let's move past all this because it's really sad. So they go on break and Carl asked for more AC, and Andy's like, wow, look at this page clock, didn am I right I mean page doesn't speak much for when she does Whoa, it's impactful page page are you away? Yeah, I'm actually can I get a bandaid for my neck? It's bleeding because I started nodding off. I'm gonna need to medical attention over here I unfortunately have attracted several bees to my neck and it's proving to be a slight problem for me
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Starting point is 00:24:40 Start making meat history today. Just head over to the meat aisle at your local grocery store, grab some impossible beef or patties and get grilling. So now Corey shows up backstage and he like walks his his name on a dresser and doors. He's like laughing with his big open mouth and Sam comes in. He's got a fade. I can't with Corey and his face. Okay, literally hate everything about this person. Okay. I'm just surprised you didn't come in covered
Starting point is 00:25:08 in a little yellow paint from painting smiley faces on something and calling himself an artist. That's how we're really missing from this reunion from Cory. Seriously. So then Sam comes in, she's got her dresses like that. Pink, frilly dress. And she goes, this dress is made for movement
Starting point is 00:25:24 and specifically the sort of movement you make when you're fucking non-talk. Am I right? What? Did I just say that? Huh? Is that me? Crazy. And crazy? I didn't know there's something even under that dress, and she goes, oh my God, I thought I was gonna
Starting point is 00:25:37 just sit on the tassels without wearing underwear. Like they would be in my vagina right now, like you are, every day, twice a day sometimes three times that bad Then of course then Chris and Chris comes in and like bro hugs core and he's like, oh my god It's like it's so up and down. I'll be like really happy and you'll be really sad be really happy It's like crazy man. That's Chris like shut up Chris. We all know all know how reunions go. So then now Carl and then's your backstage and Lin's like, um, are you feeling uncomfortable uncomfortable right now? And he's like, well, I just, I'd love to go back to the
Starting point is 00:26:14 Hamptons, the summer and have like a fun summer before we get married, because like, how do we have a wedding special if we're not on the show? So we sort of have to like save our jobs a little bit. So yeah, let's just like move past the shit and just like pretend we like people, okay? And she's like, I'm going to ignore the parking because it's immature and it's ridiculous and it doesn't even matter.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And what matters the most are the relationships I've had for years. You mean Kyle, remember? Daniel. I was like, you hate all those people. I'm making you two. I mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, you mean, mean, you mean, mean, you mean, you mean, pretty out in the open. Yeah, and it also just goes to show how few people she's become friends with over Seven years The Luke I think is the only addition so Amanda is then be like, when are we ever gonna be able to move on Kyle?
Starting point is 00:27:17 As like a group with all this stuff with Lindsay when can we move on like, well, my strategy over the years just been to like, fall on the sword, being the gentleman that I am, just falling on a sword and forgiveness, forget. I'm like, oh, yes, come on, yeah. I'm like, Kyle the martyr. I'm like, I was like, your strategy's not working Kyle. And she's like rolling her eyes, leaning on her side of the couch.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Maya, don't bother. What are you even doing here? You've done nothing, okay? Go back to bed. So then Kyle falling on the sword and he's like, you know, it's just like, it's gonna be before you know it. You're gonna be married. It's just get off your chest now or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So now they get back to the set and Corey has brought, of course, a bottle of booze on set. So one of the PRP or one of the producers is like, what are you trying to get me in trouble? You better give me that bottle, Mr. and they're, it's hilarious. Cory owns a gym, but he also likes to drink on the set. Hey, Cory's like, hey, anybody here an actual natural born woman? Anyone want to talk about that?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Fucking transfer piece of shit this guy. I can't even believe everybody's just gonna ignore it, Cory's, Apple showing it. Yeah, I was just like, oh my God, Cory's so fun. I hope you some regular next year. Like how are people, I'm surprised this is not become like a thing. Like there's literal transphobic memes out there
Starting point is 00:28:40 that Cory has just liked. Has liked. Cory doesn't care. There's a reason that he's dating someone who's got Tammy Lauren vibes. Whatever name is that does that her name to me? Tammy Lauren meets Amy Adams only, but only that's a great.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Amy Adams is not. Tammy Adams playing. Amy Adams playing the Tommy Lauren story. It's just an anti hero. I was really desperate to get inside of. So, um, like he's desperate to get inside of me. Sorry, just fell in the character there. Sorry, I just fell in the character.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It was so good, though, it was so good, because I felt it. So Andy's like, welcome back to the surround reunion. This summer we watched Sam work through her roster until her dream guy walk through the door? Which never happens, so here's Corey. So by the way, I was very upset that Andy did not ask, Sam, was it sort of weird that the guy that you were sort
Starting point is 00:29:37 of gonna be hooking up with, then moved on from you to Madonna? Like I feel like that was a very pressing question for me. I don't really care, is that weird? I think it's because it's like a personal trainer. I'm like, well, I think it would have just been interesting if Sam knew about a word. I don't think that was an advantage of Jerez.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Even though I remember his name. No, what? No, Jerez was the guy that Chris brought. The other guy, the trainer guy was, I don't even know his name, but he looked actually sort of like Chris, which is what's weird. Anyway, I'm just sharing you with you, my experience of watching the show,
Starting point is 00:30:10 which is that I would have liked the question about that Madonna situation, because I thought that was very funny. So she, I mean, that wouldn't be against it. Sorry, I don't mean to be mean to her. No, I didn't feel like you were against it. I just, what I realized was that the questions I want acid arena and are maybe not universally desired
Starting point is 00:30:28 amongst other people who watch the show. And that's okay. I don't know, but it's pride month. And I feel like I should have been more excited about your question about Madonna's, who Madonna's fucking, because that's what we're supposed to care about, it's pride. Yeah, I think I'm actually a little surprised
Starting point is 00:30:42 that Sam did not bring that up as a way to elevate her status in this group. Me too. Yeah, I was surprised too. So, Andy asked Cory, he's like, no one from Care says, Cory, you were worried about doing long distance with Jess. So, why can you do long distance with Sam, but you can't do log distance from Jess. Well, Sam is a regular on a show. Jess wasn't first of all. He can use Sam a little bit better than he can use Jess. But Cory's answer is, because I actually like Sam.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Don't take up for Jess. Don't make me take up for Jess. That was such an obnoxious response. Like if you don't like just, then you're the one who is having sex with her and making it with her for two weeks, on our television, and now you're gonna act like you never liked her.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Okay, then don't waste all of our times, please. Thank you, especially hers, even though she's crazy. Oh, nuts. So then Andy's like, Corey, it was strange watching the show back and seeing that Sierra was also interested in you. Would that have changed you moving in on Sam? Like what is, how was Corey gonna answer that question?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like oh yeah, if I'd realized that, I totally would have boned Sierra, sorry Sam. But he's supposed to say to that. Yeah, I'm not really sure. So he's like, well, Sierra and I have a very 30 relationship. I didn't really read into it. Like she was 30 more, that like it's flattering. So he's like, well, Sierra and I have a very 30 relationship. I didn't really read into it. Like she was 30 more about like, it's flattering.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That like someone wants to make out with me, I guess. But it wouldn't have changed anything. I mean, look at Sam. I mean, God, dammit. She'd be on Fox News. God dammit. And he's like, so Sam, you described Corey as someone who stopped texting you the second you catch feelings.
Starting point is 00:32:24 When did you know that that was incorrect? And then she tells this story that she told in an interview, we talked about it when I saw the interview because it's just, she tells it in the exact same way. It's like this girl showed up prepared to be on the TV and make this love story. Yeah, and make this her bachelor moment. She's like, well, at first, he was like, I took so many photos of the summer, and I was like, show me this photos. But then, like, he needed an excuse to talk to me every day. So he would just like send me one picture every day. And to this day, I still got a picture. Roll the footage. Roll, this is like princess Dice, shit, everybody Roll the Footage, okay. So they do, and it's just pictures of them looking each other's tongues and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Like, you narcissistic fucks, okay? You, I mean, okay, theory, that's sort of a romantic thing. Like, no, I'm gonna give you a photo every single day. Okay, it's been 274 days since Labor Day, as of today. That means this reunion was shot, like maybe 30 days. You guys have taken 240 photos of yourselves over the past of the span of like a few weekends.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You guys are crazy. Now, I guess maybe they may counter and say, no, it's only the days that we're apart. Still, that's ridiculous. You should not have that many photos of yourselves together from the amount of time you spent together in Summerhouse Case dismissed and the case of course is you're not narcissist and that is dismissed. You are narcissist
Starting point is 00:33:52 You're a narcissist also The whole like every picture. They're licking each other's tongue I mean just the physical act that that takes to hold the camera Lick each other's tongue and make sure you both get in the shot. It's like the least romantic shit that I've ever heard of. You know, you guys, this is almost, these selfies are almost as sad as the selfie that Lindsay took in the hospital with Carl,
Starting point is 00:34:15 or she took a picture of herself sleeping next to Carl. Right. It was, it was, she slept, walked. She was like, she did it all in her sleep. Um, but you know the thing is that's also funny is that like, I can imagine them running up a toll of photos, if every time they take a photo, they take like five or ten. Like, let's see which ones the best, let's see which ones the best. But then it's like, they kept all the takes and he's just still sending different takes
Starting point is 00:34:43 every day. Like that, that's what I'm imagining, it was also happening, which in that theoretical situation, which I feel like has a 90% chance of accuracy is also crazy that you're just still sending every single different take. Like, oh my God, today he sent me the photo again of us like at the club,
Starting point is 00:34:58 but this time my tongue was like a little bit more to the right and it was just like so hot. Mm, so moving on. Paige and Craig have been going strong since last summer but when he brought up next steps, she went into tears. So Craig wanted six months, you started crying Paige, what's up with that? He wanted six months to get engaged or whatever
Starting point is 00:35:20 and she's like, well, I don't know how long this show is gonna be. I'm not dating Craig at past his show. I don't know how long this show is gonna be. I'm not dating Craig Passage show. I don't know if I really belong on Southern Charms, so, you know, I'm just wondering about his usefulness as a property, because let's face it, I'm way too good for him. That's what she was saying in my head.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yes. Because in real life, I can't make sense of what she's actually saying, which is like she really cares, and she's scared of getting older, and, you know, she's really serious about Craig. I was, I think that I was so traumatized by that news that I just made up my own stuff
Starting point is 00:35:51 to make Paige seem as smart as I think she is in my head. Um, well people don't talk about how scary it really is getting older and growing up. Do you realize that like someday, I'm gonna have to shop for Craig at a van Hussin. That's scary, that's very scary for me. You have a walk into a Tommy Bahama? Terrifying.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Being a plane ride away from my family is very scary, Andy. And he's like, oh, can you see how you're reaction might have made him nervous? And she's like, absolutely, Andy. And he's like, I mean, your mom's a, let's ask you a question. Mom's a Zanya from is better than Craig's like, I mean, your mom's is a, let's ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Mom's a Zanya from is better than Craig's Lane Pillow says, why is the only path forward page moving to Charleston, which is clearly giving her anxiety? Why can't he move to New York City? It's like, I think that I know him so well. He wouldn't do well in New York mostly because he's an idiot. Have you met Craig?
Starting point is 00:36:44 Craig, have you ever seen him? Which guy he's an idiot. Have you met Craig Craig? Have you ever seen him try to rob every five minutes? Have you ever seen him trying to walk through a turn style? Do you know how many times he's doubled himself over just not realizing he got to scan first the poor guy? He doesn't understand it. He tries to write it like it's a bull in saddle round, Chambi. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:37:01 He thinks Central Park is a farm because their horse-tron carriages there. He threw a fishing line into the subway track, Andy. He's literally immediate. He thought the statue of Liberty was Patricia Altchull and asked it when he could come over for dinner. He walked over to the statue of Liberty and offered a stick of deodorant, Andy.
Starting point is 00:37:22 OK, he's not welcome here. He calls it Fow Schwartz. He says he wants to go get some Faw. And I said what? And he's like, you know, from Fow Schwartz. That place for Tom Hanks, danced on the piano a big. He said he couldn't make his way to the today show studios because he was looking for a pile of 30 rocks. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! The first time he came here, he was arrested because he wouldn't leave the al-roker window
Starting point is 00:37:57 of the today show, Andy. It was humiliating. He was literally plastered up against the window. He thinks George Washington actually built the bridge. Alright. So we go to page just basically like love him, but let's face it, Craig's not built for New York. And so Andy's like, well, something's got to give a romantic movie with old people that have way more chemistry than you and that weathered Tammy Lauren loving co-head could ever dream of having. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:31 All right, well, I said my piece, anybody else? I'm just like, was that a question, Andy? Because it shocked me so much I literally cut my cheek on my flower. And he's like, okay. Well, those pants should be, I'm moving on. Okay. Last summer, we watched Maya and Oliver's meet cute But this summer something seemed off Page trans immediately miserable again because it's not about her page just went from her romantic moot her like Roman her Braum comm starring page. She's like oh my god cracking the city Mm-hmm Andy's looking smiling and he's like and my and she's like
Starting point is 00:39:03 and he's like smiling and he's like and my end she's like Well my an Oliver had a meat boring and then they had a break up boring. Let's find out what happened okay So what happened with Oliver went to the change and my I was like well, you know when you know you know So I knew Okay, great So this is why you're really not not really taking off this season huh not for interesting answers okay so yeah all right great so you find out he's cheating and then what one time you went crazy you went to as a part man you you tried to burn it down you sent an angry text you screamed
Starting point is 00:39:38 to him tell me all the guys just like well yeah I did do him what I did with the rest of America, Andy. I withheld my cookies. So. She tells us, as of late, I found out there were 11 women, Andy. He's like, wow, that's one short of a last supper, am I right? 11 women, what happened for him? Wow, that is the craziest thing
Starting point is 00:40:02 you've ever revealed on this show. Thanks for being here. We're gonna move on and not have any follow-up questions about this crazy situation. Okay. I was like, wait, what? Paige makes a joke. She's like, I don't wanna say brothel,
Starting point is 00:40:15 but that's a brothel. Am I right, Lindsay? And then here's what I got wrong. Here's one of the things I got wrong last week when I was like, what? I don't remember, well, I didn't get it wrong because I said I didn't remember which I didn't, but it was, when were they shaming Lindsay
Starting point is 00:40:31 about the miscarriage? Okay, it's, and readers, the readers, I don't write. Listeners told me, they corrected me, that it was when Lindsay got her miscarriage and Paige was saying this place is like a brothel with men in and out of here and Andy said something or somebody said something like why is it okay for everybody else and not Lindsey and she said because they didn't just have a miscarriage. I was like, oh, so here she is bringing up this brothel thing again like it's hilarious,
Starting point is 00:40:58 right? And then Maya's like, yeah, Lindsey, we're gonna take a brothel away from you and give it to Oliver. And Lindsay's like, yeah, I'm being stingabang, I'm just not me, it's Oliver. Oh my god, I'm not broke, girlfriend's now, look. And they're like, we're not talking you, Lindsay. Quiet, speak to the flower. So then Andy's like, okay, well, even though Maya just had something crazy, Sierra, did she ever tell you what was going on? And Sierra's like, um, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And then he's like, okay, and Dan Yeller, you still friends with Oliver? I'm going to ask everyone questions about this Oliver situation, except for Maya. Dan Yeller, and she's like, no, and I cursed the day he was born. Okay, so low for dramatic, but every single thing, got it. So they ask about, she's asked about her love life and she's like, I'm dating Sierra. I'm not like, yeah, we're both single. So we're like fully committed to each other. And God, this is really boring.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Like I can't, they turn to Maya and Sierra and Chris and Sam and Corey and the show just like, it's the most delicious day after Christmas. When Frosty, the snowman, you know those big, air Frosty, the snowman from Home Depot were just deflated all over lawns and bushes, you know, just like sheet of frosty. How did they turn Oliver secretly sleeping with 11 different women over the course of year while dating Maya?
Starting point is 00:42:19 How did they turn that into a boring segment? Like that's impossible, but they did it. I know. It's actually the juiciest thing to have them on the show all season. It is. We don't just get like, whatever. So, and he's like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:42:32 Maya's relationship wasn't the only one to come to an end. Damn, yeah, let's get into what up with you and Robert. All right, so looking back at the summer, did you two feel like you were growing apart because you seem totally over you? It's like no, no actually like it felt like it was a totally a normal relationship Andy I mean, I just wanted to spend more time with them and then we see clips of fun loving Robert just being like This is fun driving
Starting point is 00:43:03 Driving feels more lasagna. I saw a normal. So Danielle was like, well, I was unhappy and I wanted to work on this. But Robert's response was, no, I don't want to work on this. I want to go to Aspen and not work on this. I was like, that means that things were not good. That means yeah. So Andy's like, Lindsay, you are best friends with Danielle
Starting point is 00:43:28 during the almost two year plus relationship with Robert. Were you surprised when you heard that they broke it up? And she was like, yes, I know. I was surprised because like I thought they would always work to any conflict they might have, but I wasn't surprised at the very end because she was dating a chef. And he's like, all right, and I will not go ask Maya
Starting point is 00:43:47 what it's like to date a chef, even though she dated a chef right here from Bravo Kwame. That's how boring you are today, Maya. Ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, literally the only thing Maya likes bringing up on this show. The only thing she doesn't want to hide from the cameras is that she dated Kwame. Hi, I'm Michael Patrick King, host of the official Max Companion podcast, and just like
Starting point is 00:44:14 that, the writers room. Each episode members of the writers room and I unpacked moments from season 2, sharing juicy details you can only hear from us. Stream and just like that season 2, starting June 22nd on Max, and listen to end just like that, the right is room on Max, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Andy's like,
Starting point is 00:44:33 Zudan Gel, do you feel like you were projecting your relationship issues with Dave from Garfield on the Lindi and Carl? And she's like, no, I would never do that Andy. My relationship has nothing to do with me not wanting my best friend to have the happiest relationship. And Andy's like, do you believe that Lindsey?
Starting point is 00:44:51 And she goes, I'm listening. I spent a lot of the summer and I fell into like a deep dive into what went wrong. And like a projection was a part of that for me. It was. I mean, come on Danielle. And Danielle's like, why would you even say that? But by the way, Danielle, projecting is not
Starting point is 00:45:09 often a conscious thing you do. She's like, I would never do that to a friend. It's like, that's not, you don't really control that. That's the whole point. That's why people say you're projecting because it's like, it's highlighting, it's giving you awareness of why you're having a certain emotional reaction.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It's not like you say, hey, I want to say this to her because I'm feeling it too. So it like kind of shows a total lack of self-awareness because she was clearly projecting. Well, they're trying to actually have a decent conversation here, but no one will let them. The people on the show need them fighting so badly and they love that they made it happen. And this is where it starts making me crazy because Kyle and his side of the couch will just not let a makeup happen, right? So she's like, well, Danielle, I thought that you or afraid you were gonna lose your friend.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That's what it looks like to me. And Kyle's like, that has nothing to do with Robert. Can I just say something? Can I just, no, shut the fuck up, boy. Don't say anything. Okay, this isn't your relationship. You hate everybody talking about your relationship, your terrible fucking relationship
Starting point is 00:46:05 So just shut up and let other people talk so crowds like both you and Carl and your confession I'll say the reason she thinks we're moving too fast is because of her relationship with the Romer you both said it You both said it and Carl's like oh, you know what I did my dad and so I was like yeah, so you know what I genuinely didn't see Red flags and Carl's like yeah, I was, oh no, Kyle says this, right? He's like, I was curious. So I called up Robert, because we were like talking business. And so I was like, hey, I was last summer
Starting point is 00:46:33 and he was like fine. And I was like, you know, like, where there are problems in your relationship. And he was like, whoa, we have speed bumps, but, you know, the three Amigos had nothing to do with my relationship with Danielle. And so you both need to know that because you both said that it was like, it was like, wow, what are you going to do with those things? And the other people's fucking relationship and going to someone's ex-boyfriend, which
Starting point is 00:46:56 by the way Danielle gets really upset about when Carl does it in a couple of minutes, but it's totally fine with Kyle doing it. Yeah, they're all, and I just don't think that any of them understand what projecting is. Actually, only Lindsay seems to be the other one who understands it. Project, I mean, obviously Danielle's relationship is going down the shitter.
Starting point is 00:47:13 She was feeling a certain sort of way. It's not that she wanted to drag Lindsay and Carl down because she was jealous of them. It's that she was, you know, she was feeling a certain sort of, I think maybe they keep on bringing up the fact that like, well, Danielle moved in with Robert really quickly. How about that? I'm like, yeah, and look what happened there.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Everyone, maybe that's why she's having this reaction, everyone. I think she was friends with the couple and the couple became a couple and then she felt left out of the couple. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear, you know? Like whether that is her fault or whoever's fault it is, like it's clear that she felt left out.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Right, but I feel that's 100% correct, but I think that the degree of her reaction was somewhat informed by what was going on in her relationship. Like I don't know if she would have felt as left out if she was not, if things were not going south with Robert. I think that she was feeling, I think she was feeling sort of a lack of love from two different areas, two different from both sides there. Like, well, Robert's not making, I'm not a priority in Robert's life. And
Starting point is 00:48:23 now I'm not a priority in Lindsey's life. And now I'm not a priority in Lindsay's life. And probably her frustrations of not being a priority in Robert's life were then probably amplified and going towards Lindsay. So I think it's all the above. Well, Kyle, it just thinks he made this huge point. But it's like, you both need to know that because like you both said,
Starting point is 00:48:38 and you were wrong because I talked to, by the way, the business I have with Robert, never really explained. Okay. Like, the way, the business I have with Robert. Never really explained. Okay. Yeah. Like, did the chef get the lover boy into whatever? So, Lindsay's like, I'm, yeah, well, Carl met up with him too. And they're like, nah, Danielle's match.
Starting point is 00:48:55 He's like, how dare someone speak to my ex? And Carl's like, yeah, like, he said a similar thing to me too, you know, which is really cool. And he was like, does lover boy, spread, spare, with Fleming, y'all, you know, which is really cool. And he was like, does lover boy spritz pair with Fleming y'all, you know, and that was the next question, you know, he's like, I didn't pair with Danielle, but we'll lover boy T pair with Savich. Okay, what are not, because I can't believe I called someone and that's terribly a fun stuff. So Danielle's really annoying and Karles like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:22 he wanted to reach out and talk about the end of the summer because he felt bad about being a fucking dick to me at that party Yeah, and I felt bad too when I walked out into the trash alley and had a had a temper tantrum about it So I care about Robert and I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out and It's like did you reach out to Danielle after they broke up? Because, oh, I did not reach out to Danielle. No, that's my final answer. Danielle's like, yeah, oh, but you were happy
Starting point is 00:49:52 to have a conversation with my ex-boyfriend and she was like, well, he reached out to me like last week and I got together with him because he was like, hey, if you meet up with me, there's a free pair of white jeans in it for you and I was like, oh cool, I'll do it. So then Andy's like, so, well, no, this is why the fuck shouldn't he reach out?
Starting point is 00:50:08 You were the one who said, you guys are, this friendship is done. We are done. We are through. I hope you're happy. And went to everybody at the engagement party, shit talking them. And then Stormbatten said, you were done.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And this was all over. Why are the fuck would they call you? I don't call people who break up with me over them breaking up with other people. You broke up with me first, you don't get my call, sorry. Yeah, I mean, I mean, in this case, Robert reached out to Carl. I don't think it wasn't that Carl reached out to Robert,
Starting point is 00:50:38 although probably would have been nice for them to send a text, be like, sorry to hear about you and Robert. I don't know, but they were also when they broke up, when that breakup happened, they were also still really angry. I mean, I do think that Danielle's behavior at that engagement party was unforgettable. I think that like she really made an ass of herself. She did ruin a moment for these two people, even if everything about the engagement felt superficial and felt made for TV and felt like it was advancing, you know, Carl and Lindsay as like, America's
Starting point is 00:51:07 sweetheart, that image they're trying to cultivate. And even if it did, even if Danielle perceived it as a slight, she made an ass of herself and she did ruin it for them. And at the end of the day, it still is their engagement and still is their engagement party. And she did stain that forever for them. So I can understand why they'd be mad. I'm actually kind of with you. You stained this forever. They stained you have stained this forever. As opposed to everything in this reality show has also stained. The show that features the most white pants out of any other show on Brava. Talk about stains. Yeah. Talk about stains. So Lindsay has a really good answer to because Andy asked if Lindsay reached out today and also broke up, but she's well, I wasn't it wasn't confirmed to be honest and like then
Starting point is 00:51:52 you were in like Aspen and so I figured you might be possibly working out. So I just wasn't really sure and do you just want to roll the footage of my engagement party again and you can get your answer from that because that would be a lot easier. And then you go snorted you care goes, Nore did you care? Why the fuck would she care? Why the fuck would she? You basically both ended the season like you're dead to me. So Andy's like, well did the other housemate reach out?
Starting point is 00:52:15 And Danielle goes every single one. And then he goes, except Lindsey and Carl. You called her an evil heartless monster and said your relationship was over. I don't get why everybody is trying to rewrite history here. And Carl's like, well, it was a tough spot, you know, like, start to reach out, but, you know, I didn't reach out. So, I mean, I'll just tell you, except I just, I didn't do it. Lindsay's like, yeah, and like, you kind of said, like, Lindsay, I mean you. Um, I get bothered that you think I was going through something at the reason why I wanted
Starting point is 00:52:44 you to be in the friendship with me like like oh I have to be going something to do something like I had realized over the summer that our friendship was incredibly One-sided well congratulations Danielle welcome to six years ago for the rest of us. I know I'm page like makes a gasp Smile face. She's like Great that was wonderful. That was amazing. That's my favorite song. I'm gonna text everyone. Oh, shit. I don't have my phone. I hate this opinion. Daniels, I mean, it paid just like the soccer mom of fucking with other people's relationships. She's like, oh my god. I trained her so well. You go. She can get up. She can be great, honey. Tell her honey. Page of the set of orange slices afterwards.
Starting point is 00:53:24 You had the saddest soccer team I've literally ever heard of, by the way. Whenever we talk about soccer teams and you bring up orange slices, I always am like, poor Ben. I just wish I could go back in time and tell you. I had a very cool soccer team that I quit. I quit to watch the smurfs.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I was like, I always tell the story. I could have been a jock, okay? At that formative, like that intersection when I was young, I was doing soccer on Saturday mornings. If I had stuck with it, I could have been a jock, but instead I could have, so I could watch the Smurfs. And furthermore, one of my soccer teammates
Starting point is 00:54:00 was Nick Grimattica, son of Lou Graham, lead singer of Farnor. If I stuck with it, I could have been like, I could have basically been a member of Farnor, guys. Pretty much. I could have been in with the Ronsons, because all those Ronson kids, Mark Ronson, and all of them, their dad was in Farnor too.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like, I could have been, I could have been doing songs with Bruno Mars. Do you see how like the sliding doors moment was affected by this amazing soccer team that I failed to get advantage of? Yep, the sliding doors closed and Craig's jacket got caught and he was dragged down the entire subway platform and slimed into a wall like a cartoon character, which is why he could never move to New York. So yeah, he still keeps buying big things of TNT. Exploding himself as a runoff clicks. So then Andy, after break, they get a little break and Paige comes back like with
Starting point is 00:54:54 Gauze all over her, like the side of her face falling asleep like 10 times during the shooting and bleeding. She's going to be like Freddy Krueger by the end of this. Just scar tissue. So Andy's like, all right, let's get into the biggest relationship, shocker of the season, the trace of megos. Shannon comes on stage, she's like, well, let me tell you something, I never did anything about it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I do one of those bitches. I just gotta be me. I'm just gonna do. Shannon lightly broke the internet the other day when she posted a photo of her and David at the quiet woman. She goes, wow, you never know who you'll run into with the quiet woman. I'm like, actually, you know exactly
Starting point is 00:55:31 you're gonna run into, because of the same people who go there every single week, but still kind of shocking to see such a happy photo with the two of them. One of the most disturbing places ever, and of course, an emotionally abusive husband is gonna go to the quiet woman. The restaurant is filled with paintings of women
Starting point is 00:55:47 with no mouths. It's like the freaky, as lifetime movie shit I've ever seen in my life, that restaurant, okay? It's disturbing, stop going there. Yeah, overpriced food too, I just wanna say. Good fish and chips though. Okay, so let's see, the three Amigos,
Starting point is 00:56:04 Tracem goes or whatever. So when did it start to change? And Danielle's like, well, I think it's because I said that you guys were moving too fast to page. And then Danielle's like, yeah, I think they wanted to expedite being together, which is great, but as a friend, sometimes you're like, let's figure out a career, let's figure out our finances, let's make sure your subrides at the forefront. And you got some healthy boundaries, by
Starting point is 00:56:29 the way, Danielle, you don't have to figure out any of that shit. Sorry. Yeah, that's to move in together. Well, I just feel like, okay, I just think that like Danielle takes on way too much responsibility as a best friend. I think she really thinks that she has to be way more involved in all these things. I think it's one thing to say, you guys are going a little too fast. Why don't you maybe she takes some baby steps considering that Carl is new in his sobriety. But when she's like, as a best friend, I have to say things like, why don't you figure out your career?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Why don't you figure out your finances? It's like, you know what? You say that stuff once, and if they say they don't care, then you just drop it and you move on as best friends. Well, we get to what the real problem is, which wasn't any of that, I don't think. So basically, he's like, well, why don't you just, those are reasonable. So why don't you guys just talk them out?
Starting point is 00:57:16 And then he's like, well, I didn't, it's clearing out because she's saying it, but I didn't know that over the summer. And she didn't know that because Danielle wasn't telling her that. She was telling other people that, right? So Danielle says, yeah, because all you heard is me being critical of your relationship
Starting point is 00:57:30 and I was already discarded from the jump. And honestly, Lindsay, like that was the real problem here. It was, was it that I said you were moving too fast or was it that I got that information from Paige who you don't like and who you know doesn't like you? Well, yeah, that is the problem. You went to Paige, you gave Paige ammo, the second to page had ammo, and Lindsay was being nice to her at some party.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Page used it against Lindsay to be a dick and cause problems in your relationship, and they sold the clip of it and you know and care still. Like what the hell? Yeah, I mean, that being said, I do think that Daniel takes on too much as a best friend. Like she really, I think she feels a way too large of a sense of obligation of organizing shit for people. But I do think that, and yes, okay, fine, she shouldn't have, she shouldn't have vented to page fine, she shouldn't have vented to page.
Starting point is 00:58:23 But I also don't think that Lindsay should have thrown out this entire relationship just because she entered the page once you know okay someone there wasn't getting this argument for like but it wasn't one it was it wasn't to page once it was literally to everybody and when then after page used it and they started talking about it then y'all continue to go to everybody and talk about it and talk about it and talk about it. You're going to people who hate your best friend, which is definitely showing, like we've talked about this a million times, but because it's reunion, we have to talk about it again. I think that by going to your best friends, enemies and girls, you know, don't have your best interests at heart and talking shit about her to become better friends with them is shit behavior and I wouldn't be friends
Starting point is 00:59:03 with you either. Like that's not the best friend. Your best friend wouldn't do that to you. So you're dead to me. You're dead. I actually feel like as a friend, I actually feel like Andy Cohen summarized this entire thing. You're really, really well later on. So I'm not even going to bother going down the path again because at the end of the day I'm just, whatever Andy says at the end of this episode is like, I think pretty accurate
Starting point is 00:59:23 to what happened. Well, he basically, we see the clips of stuff and then Danielle's like, by the way, Paige, that was Messy as hell, do not ever throw me under the bus like that again and Paige is like, she's one of my last friends. Thank you. Paige was like, yeah, it was great work.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Thank you so much. Lindsay's like, so Lindsay's saying like, yeah, no, I heard everything from anybody else and then you'll say but it's those girls Especially because if I had said that to Sam or to Gabby you would not have had that same reaction and Lindsay's like Yes, Danielle. That's the point you dummy. Why are you acting like that's completely unreasonable? She's not admitting that that's unreasonable at all, which is making me crazy She's like, oh, you're just mad because it was paid. Yeah. Dude.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Dude. So Danielle's like, I'm just trying to have a relationship with everyone. Open. Open relationship with everyone. And my responsibility is not always have the same enemies as you do. Except the thing is, The same enemies you were talking shit to her enemies. She's not saying you have to be enemies with them.
Starting point is 01:00:26 She had no problem with you being friendly with them. She was fine with you being friendly with them. It's you talking shit about her to them. I actually don't think she was fine with her being friends with them because I do think that Danielle is the sidekick. She's not the best friend, she's the sidekick. And so as a sidekick, you do have to have the same enemies.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And I think that was a fundamental mistake that she made was trying to be friends with other people outside of the building. Well, maybe Lindsay wasn't fine with it. We know from Lindsay's personality that most likely she wasn't fine with it. And this would have manifested in some way down the line. But Lindsay hadn't said anything to her
Starting point is 01:00:57 when she started talking to the girls. She didn't say, don't hang out with those bitches or anything like that, you know? Yeah, I think Daniel, the reason why she's so angry is that it is the slow dawning that she is psychic. And that's what this was. That's what all of this is coming down to for Danielle is the realization that this was not a best friend situation.
Starting point is 01:01:15 This was a sidekick and the dominant one. Sidekick and Alpha. So Paige is like, I'm Danielle is like, never allowed to be friends with us. And then she became friends with us. And like, that is the problem. So by the way, um, Danielle is like never allowed to be friends with us and then she became friends with us and like that is the problem. So by the way, Danielle, I just want you to know. I got you a flower for your neck.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's really small and spacey. It's the end of the lion's weed, but I'm not saying you're a sidekick to us, but I did get you a team mobile sidekick, which is neither here nor there. But nobody cared until you purposely went to Lindsay and threw Danielle into the bus to create the problem. You brat. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:46 She's like, yeah, that was a problem. You started the problem page. They literally just showed the clip. So Andy's like, okay, let me ask you this. You were very offended. She said you were moving too fast. Why were you upset? And she's like, um, eh, she moved in with her boyfriend after two months.
Starting point is 01:02:00 So that was hypocritical. And at being, I've known him seven years. And we've been through so much together, and see, I got the doggo contract. I know the doggo contract. I know it. And Danielle's like, and then who do you think you were talking to
Starting point is 01:02:14 when you say that? I've been through every single thing with you. I'm like, well, she's, it's not like Lindsay's getting engaged to you, Danielle. I mean, the logic doesn't really make sense. So Lindsay goes, oh yeah, like what do you think we're gonna happen? I'm just gonna like move out. Like we just like we just moved in together.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I was gonna be like, oh Danielle thinks we're moving too fast. I'm just gonna move out now. Sorry girl. And Gabby goes, I think the issue is Danielle, all that she didn't hear it like directly from you. And she goes, yeah, correct. I'm gonna say, oh, I'm gonna eat more weights. Can I say that same thing, Gabby?
Starting point is 01:02:47 I mean, come on, Gabby. I was like, wow, don't snap it, Gabby, geez. Gabby's just trying to help. Gabby needs to say something, okay? They're not asking Gabby about tennis. She's gotta say something in this reunion. Yeah, exactly. Well, Batman from Returns says,
Starting point is 01:03:06 we're really upset with Danielle. What, that Danielle wasn't playing the role of your support-abest friend anymore and instead taking it talking to the ops, I felt like you were just pissed off that Danielle had main character energy and you lost your little soldier. So Paige is cracking up like,
Starting point is 01:03:21 ops, that's so funny. I love when people use new slang and it doesn't take off, but tries to make it happen in a reunion. That's like classic Can I just point out again that side of the couch is so miserable They just so a shot of that whole side of the couch and they're all like It's almost like the lazy version of the musical Chicago You know how Chicago opens and is all the ladies in jail and they're like in different poses.
Starting point is 01:03:47 You know, it's like one's like this and one's like this against the bar. Except this, there are just various poses of lying down. You know, like one's like draped over the couch like this. One's like this. And the other one slaps the back just not letting her head go down so she doesn't decapitate herself on a fake flower. Yeah on the optics That's how the couch is really doing a bad job. I have to say so Lindsay is like
Starting point is 01:04:11 She's like well, it wasn't a role you play with each other like it was a multi-season multi-year best friendship It was like not a role. It was like a six-season contract to be best friends and then expired You know, it's like a lease. Sometimes like buildings just have leases and businesses close down and then let Daniels lease us up, okay? So Andy asks, you know, like, come on guys, don't you know why Danielle felt left out Carl? I mean, you told all those people flying in, you told all the guys, Chris and Cory knew,
Starting point is 01:04:41 Amanda's like, what's the extreme, Steven knew, guy? Andy's like, it seems huge that Daniel's like, the only person you didn't tell. And he's like, well, I promise I wasn't trying to hurt you. Oh, he's like, but clearly it was a decision you made, Carl. And he's like, well, Kyle was the only one. And Chris, and everyone who flew in. And then he's like, I'm, and that's a lot of people
Starting point is 01:05:01 that he told Andy, because that's my point. Thanks. They do like, yeah, because that's my point. Thanks. They're like, yeah, so these things do bit. It's like a lot of people do accept and yell. And it's like, yeah, that's everyone but her. And Lindsay's like, yeah, but he told everyone but the girls in the house. And Andy's like, so you don't trust Andy and yell.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And Carl's like, well, I didn't trust any of the girls now. And Andy's like, is Daniel trust any of the girls now. And Andy's like, is Danielle any of the girls now? She's one of the trace of me. She's aligned with the other girls in the house now. That's it. Those girls don't like Lindsay. She doesn't like them. And Danielle has proven that she is now aligned
Starting point is 01:05:39 with those girls. Why in the world would Lindsay would have killed him if Danielle ruined this or Danielle came to say, listen, he's going to propose and I don't think it's time for you to do this or whatever. Anything's a possibility. And Danielle, I think that's definitely a conversation. Danielle would have had with Lindsey, by the way. Yeah, when it's Danielle not gone to somebody immediately, you know what I mean? And Tatl tails. Like Danielle has always been a little Tatattler. Yeah, well I think she would say, I'm not saying I'm just saying I feel like an
Starting point is 01:06:08 engagement's coming up and I just don't think you should do it. She would have done it in a way where she could say I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. Yeah, she would have been like, there are big steps that are about to be taken and I'm just not really sure that you should be taking those steps just yet. And I just want you to know that you can say no. There's no pressure to say yes. When these steps are right. But that being said, you did tell Kyle and Kyle is also one of the biggest toddlers on the show, much larger than Danielle. So that's true. But Kyle is also one of his legit best friends when I don't, where I don't think Danielle
Starting point is 01:06:43 is. Like all the shit that Kyle has done to him, Kyle has still, and Carl said this when he was crying earlier about it. Like, you know, Kyle did have to put up with him when he was an addict and doing all this stuff. And Kyle still did give him a job and like work through it with him. And he was like actually a really good friend to Carl.
Starting point is 01:07:01 So, I mean, as much as I disagree with a lot of that stuff, I could see how he wouldn't think. Listen, Danielle needs to watch more survivor, because this is what always happens when you, when the group makes a vote, decides to blindside someone, there's always someone who's like, you could've told me, why don't you guys tell me, I would've voted along with you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:18 They're like, well, we just didn't think that you'd be able to keep it. Hi, that's a sign for that. Can you just leave it? Can you just leave it? You have to stop it all. You can just leave it. Hi, I want to sign for that. Could you just leave it? Can you just leave up? You have to sign it up. I just leave it. Ryan's getting a package. Oh, my name is Randall Karam. Ronnie Karam. Can you just like leave the package, please? I'll be great.
Starting point is 01:07:36 That's okay. Just leave it right there on the front. Thanks. I'm upstairs. It's great. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Love it. Hey, I just blew my head. Did you write here? Is that okay? I'm so sorry, you guys, but it's like from Apple
Starting point is 01:07:50 and it's like a big thing. And I didn't want to take it off. I didn't want to take it off. Because I've been waiting for it. So, it's kind of a big deal right now. And I just like didn't want to tell Daniel it was arriving because it's just like, I just didn't tell any of the girls
Starting point is 01:08:01 that that thing from Apple was arriving today. I'm sorry, that was so unprofessional, but you can't plan on this, it's gonna happen. And now we're doing these all on videos so you can't just press that. It's fine, people get packages in life. Okay, everyone understands what happens. This is, okay, this is not the Oscars.
Starting point is 01:08:19 We're allowed to get a package and they'll the podcast, everyone will survive. Thank you so much. I'm subscribing. If you're unsubscribing because of this, then you're just as bad as Lindsay and Danielle right now in this fight. Well, now we're on YouTube, so I can be like,
Starting point is 01:08:31 hey guys, this is the unpackaging. I just got from Apple. It's a new VR headset called Vision. And I'm actually gonna see what Lindsay's dream life is, being on People Magazine every day without Danielle. Whoa, Lindsay's dream life, that being on People magazine every day without Daniel. Wow, Lindsay's dream life, that's like literally a vision of love and it was all meant up to be. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:53 So anyway, my point is, Carl would forgive. Carl would tell Kyle, even though Kyle's a fuck up, because he considers him a real friend, whereas I think Danielle was probably, you know, just. I think Danielle's being faced a lot of, I think Danielle is being faced with a lot of uncomfortable realities of her position in life and what people view of her. I don't think that she's realized this. I don't think that she's realized that people don't necessarily trust her with information
Starting point is 01:09:22 that she is a sidekick to Lindsay. I think this has all been like tough pills to swallow. Understandably, I don't, I actually would not take that away from her. I think it's really tough. I do think Lindsay was a shitty friend to her. I do think Lindsay was a shitty friend to her. But I think that Danielle,
Starting point is 01:09:39 Danielle has really fucked up too. And I think that Lindsay got the ball rolling, but Danielle, she just spiraled out of control and she, it's rough. So, Andy is kind of sticking up for the Danielle side. He's like, I just don't get why you would just treat her like one of the girls and not tell the girls anything. I don't understand that.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And Lentie's like, um, Andy, he told her he was ring-shopping and she screamed into a pillow. And we see a clip of that. And Carl's like, yeah, I mean, when we were talking and I shared that I was ring-shopping, like, did you go at that point? Like, hey, I'd love to help you plan or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Like, I would love to be a part of this or anything. And she's like, why? We were just trying and he's like, no, no, hold on, that's a good point, you know, that is actually a very good point. And she's like, why? We were just trying and, and he's like, no, no, hold on, that's a good point, Danielle. That is actually a very good point. And she's like, well, I would have no way of knowing that you were planning an engagement. The conversation was literally about ring shopping. Yeah. When you think it's for he was, you did know, you stopped lying, you know, it's bad enough without you being a liar about it. Of course, you knew you were being an asshole and an supportive asshole about it.
Starting point is 01:10:46 That's a whole point. Just cop to it. Yeah. And, uh, and he's basically like, yeah, like what I wanted for us, I just wanted to be a surprise and I just like, wasn't feel like comfortable to share it with the girls in the house. And like, I know you were looped into that and like, that's that you weren't looped into and I was like, it's like fucked up, but like, I did it because like,
Starting point is 01:11:02 I did always best for like a surprise for my engagement that I've been planning since June when I found out officially I was coming back to the show and I needed to make a storyline for myself. I needed to plan it. I needed to arrange for a people magazine. Like I've been working really hard on this, okay? Like I've gonna be shooting your commercial
Starting point is 01:11:17 with Marshalls I'm sure, and it's gonna be December to remember sales event for Lindsay and Carl, America's Sweetheart. So like I couldn't have you fucking hear that up, okay? And she's like, well, I was just screaming into a pillow to get through to you. Like I didn't have disdain for you shopping for a ring. Yes, you did. I was just frustrated with how we got to this point. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:11:35 We had always had the best intentions with you and my heart. Do you not think in your heart of hearts I don't want you to be happy? No, you screamed into a pillow, and then at the engagement, you went pissed off talking to every single friend of hers that flew in about it. So why in the world would she think that you would be happy or that you were happy? You were giving no indication to anybody, including the cameras that were recording you
Starting point is 01:11:57 for national television, that you were happy for them. So, right. Well, I mean, I actually do think there's a subtle point here, which is that you can be happy for someone but also think that people are going about something the wrong way. She might not, I don't think she was happy for the way they were doing it. I think she's happy that they're together, but she also thinks they're being foolish for running into it and she's getting frustrated that they didn't seem to realize that they needed to go slower, which is different than not being happier. But what she didn't realize is that you can say you're happy for someone, but by talking
Starting point is 01:12:30 shit at that person's engagement party, you're going to take away their happiness. And so you can't say you want to be happy for someone by actively removing their happiness. Well, and you can't say, you can't question that someone would think that you're unhappy for them when you're walking around literally scowling and being happy for them at every turn. If there isn't make any sense. If they are receiving reports from friends, oh my god, Danny, I was talking so much shit about you,
Starting point is 01:12:56 I would also think that she wasn't happy for me. So now Carl's mad and he's like, look, I feel bad, you weren't included, all right? I felt uncomfortable, you know And he's like, look, I feel bad you weren't included, alright? I felt uncomfortable, you know? I'm like, but I'm sorry, like there are plenty of girls who go engaged and the best girlfriend isn't included and they're still happy for their girlfriend. And cause like the difference is they aren't in the same out.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Shut up Kyle. I'm just fucking talking to you Kyle. And Daniel's like, and you don't think I can keep a secret. What am I five years old? You have literally never kept one secret on this show. Never. We've talking about, show her these people watching. And so, Lindsay's like,
Starting point is 01:13:31 you act in five years, little bit of season. And he's like, well, did you really think she was gonna tell? And cross like, I was in the hospital two days before I proposed, okay? I fainted at a Tim McRachio okay I've got a lot of my brain okay I've been planning this since June as is like my fucking engagement slash storyline slash endorsement deals
Starting point is 01:13:54 okay I want to make it special okay and I'm sorry we're included yeah he's like yelling it's like not everyone is included and everyone's proposals I know she's like oh so you don't give a shit about me is that what you're saying and then she's like nothing not everyone is included and everyone's proposals, I yell. And she's like, oh, so you don't give a shit about me? Is that what you're saying? And then she's like, oh, nothing to do with you. Yeah, it's not about you Daniel. And he stands up and he's like, I wasn't gonna be like, oh, I'm not gonna tell Daniel
Starting point is 01:14:13 so I can ruin our friendship. I mean, like, I feel badly, but this is me and her. Ah! Ah! Oh! And mine makes a face like, oh my God. Carl's like crazy, right? Carl's standing up right now.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Can you believe you stood up? So Andy's like, oh my god, Carl's like crazy right now. Carl's standing up right now. Can you believe you stood up? So Andy is like, okay, her spinning out at the party to all of your friends aside, and that is a very big aside. Do you Lindsay, do you understand giving your years of friendship why she was so upset? She's like, no.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Daniel's watching the engagement party. Okay, well, not going in with her. Daniel, watching the engagement party back,, well, I'm not going in with her. Daniel, watch the engagement party back. Would you change anything about your behavior? Cause it was really mortifying on a network of really mortifying behavior by people. Rather way the whole couch is like, oh my god, Lindsay's answer.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Can you believe her? Like, God you guys. And Daniel's like, well, here's what I would have changed Andy. I would have changed my outfit. I would have changed like my drink that I was drinking or like the amount of people that I talked to maybe. So we see a clip of her going to like literally
Starting point is 01:15:18 everybody going, um, I didn't know a thing about this until like an hour or a half. And so like maybe I would have just talked to one person instead of three people. I mean, I don't know. It wasn't malicious Andy. Okay, I was beside myself. I was hurt.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And in my mind, I would have loved to be the person to organize it. And he's like, you would have liked to be involved. And guess what that's called? It's called consequences. Okay, so I hope you enjoyed those on your tier parade. Yeah, I don't see Danielle. This is where she loses me because it's like,
Starting point is 01:15:48 I know you would have loved to have organized it, but that's not owed to you. It's just not owed to you, okay? Like, sorry your ego got produced here. It's just not, like I understand why she feels hurt because her worldview is such that she interprets this in a really hurtful way. But it's time for her to readjust how she views the world.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Also, girlfriends aren't included in the engagement necessarily. They're included in the bridal shower and the party, you know, the bridesmaid stuff. Like if you're going to be made of honor or stuff like that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So anyway, she's like, well, I was in the sidelines and the bushes. And Lindsay's like, um, well, it got back to me all week. What you were saying to my friends, so can I say something? And then Danielle's like, well, in a million years, I wouldn't want you to think I was making your engagement party about me. Danielle, you literally made it about you to every guest that flew into the party.
Starting point is 01:16:44 We saw you talking to like every best, for every best girlfriend of Lindsay. Like they just showed a clip of it. Like how is he still going on? Like none of this ever happened. I hate the argument of like I would never do that. You should know I would never do that. And while I was thinking back all the way back to Kyle Richards saying that to Camille Grammar, Camille, I would never say that about you. You should know I would never say that
Starting point is 01:17:11 about you. Like that, that's not a good argument. I feel like Danielle has legs to stand on in this in this separation from Lindsay. And she's choosing not to stand on those legs. She's just like flopping around in a puddle somewhere. So, um, she could stand like that. But it's what happened. So, I mean, you could say you wouldn't do it, but like you did do it.
Starting point is 01:17:33 And she's like, well, if that's what you feel, and she's like, no, it's not what I feel, Daniel, it's what happened. Like it's on camera. And Daniel's like, well, I'm super apologetic for that then, because I wanted you to have a happy engagement. You know, I would want you to be happy. Like, I mean, would I want to blow fireworks
Starting point is 01:17:49 and I would have sourced myself? Absolutely. She's trying to make a joke here. So I was like, okay, I accept your balladie. So I think she's being serious. I don't think she's. No, she's saying she's like, I wanted. She's saying she's still would I want it. I want it.
Starting point is 01:18:05 She's saying she's still would've liked to have participated in the organization, but she's trying to be like a little lighthearted by saying it. So Andy's like, well, can you understand as her best friend, why her feelings are where her, and then she's like, yes, because she's deluded and I feel bad for that.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And of course I can understand, but I also want to be part of like my best friend's momentous most ownses occasions just. And in a period, which is like, sure. So it's like, sure, it's okay, take a period. It's like, all right, let me ask you, watching back that final conversation, we see a clip of that. Danielle being a drama queen and trying to have this big confrontation, and Lindsay just
Starting point is 01:18:41 being ice as, I see as hell, you know, and being calling. When I'm hurt, and like, you know, and being called like, whatever, and like, you're dead to me, kind of attitude. Well, Amanda is like, gaffying on a bench on the side, okay. So then we cut back and, and he's like, do you regret anything Danielle? And Danielle's like, no, any assolence is the same.
Starting point is 01:18:59 And she's like, no, I don't think Danielle and I regret anything in those moments that we have. And when she says that, Amanda and Pedro are like, oh my God, they give each other shocked faces. Like, can you believe Lindsay doesn't regret a thing? Well, it's okay for Danielle to say she's a monster and break up with her, but it's not okay for Lindsay to stay calm and walk away.
Starting point is 01:19:19 That's how the couch needs to just nap time, just take it. You just take it. I think that's what they actually want. They literally want that. So Danielle's like, so you don't regret. And I was less upset about the couch. I was more upset with Danielle's reaction because, like you said, Andy asked Danielle if she has any regrets.
Starting point is 01:19:38 She goes, no. And Lindsay, do you have any regrets? No. I think Danielle's like, so you don't regret anything you said in that moment. I'm like, Daniel, you just said you don't regret anything. You said in that moment, I'm like, Daniela, you just said you don't regret anything either. Why are you getting all crazy right now? And Lindsay's like, no, Daniel, the tie felt in that moment and she said,
Starting point is 01:19:55 well, you said in my face that we'd never been friends, which no, she didn't. That wasn't what she said. And then Kyle goes, uh, listen, that last conversation, like you are the coldest, emotionless person I have ever seen. Like, so is it because she's a woman, she's like, not allowed to be cold and emotional. She's not allowed to be stoic in that moment because she's a woman.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I, like, I know he wasn't saying that, but to me, that was a big subtext there. I didn't. I, for me, it was just like huge hypocrisy. I mean, what this guy did all season was fucking horrible, not just a carol, but to Lindsay too. Screaming at Lindsay and going on that whole thing about she's such an asshole, that whole thing that he did that night where he was wasted and had to fit
Starting point is 01:20:38 and blame everything in his and Carl's relationship on Lindsay and called her a fucking bitch and all this other stuff. And then to be like, you are the coldest, most emotionless person I've ever seen. and his and Carl's relationship on Lindsay and called her a fucking bitch and all this other stuff. And then to be like, you are the coldest, most emotionless person I've ever seen. Fuck you, you don't get to say that. Like you don't, you don't have the legs this season
Starting point is 01:20:53 to be throwing stuff. I think Lindsay's actually allowed to be cold and emotionless. I mean, it was more than most, but like, why does she need... Don't be throwing details in a mullet house. You little fuck, okay? Sit down and shut up.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Like Danielle just destroyed her engagement party and she just spent a week hearing from friends about all this that Danielle was saying, she's over it, she's already processed it, so she's not upset. Whereas Danielle has got this pent up emotion and hasn't been able to confront Lindsay, Lindsay just like fuck her, I'm over it.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I think that she was fine to react the way she did. I thought it was actually, it was cold and it was hilarious. So, cause like all she said was that you it was cold and it was hilarious. So, cause like all she said was that you're rushing things. And Lindsay's like, well how can you possibly bridge a gap when you have no intention to see my perspective? I had had enough. And cause like, what did you done to you? That was so bad. Danielle makes this face. Oh, like Danielle, you need to like save those faces for when something bad has really been said. Because this whole, this whole episode, I haven't even mentioned it, but Danielle, you need to like save those faces for when something bad has really been said because this whole episode, I haven't even mentioned it, but Danielle, everything that
Starting point is 01:21:48 they say on that side of the couch, Danielle goes, oh, all she said was you need to see my perspective too. Danielle's like, oh, home alone, you know. So Lindsay's base, like, did you see my engagement? And she's like, by the time the conversation had come. And I was also hurt by things that hurt that she had said about me and like Carl and our relationships the entire summer like that when I'm hurt I just like shut down after like so many things and cause like yeah but her point is that you discarded the relationship
Starting point is 01:22:17 and she's like yeah by that point yes. It was cold like so hard to watch As friends of you guys who often blame you for anything that goes wrong in the house. And Lindsay's like, but she had no regrets for making our entire relationship about her. And then Karla and Andy both yell at her, she apologized. And Karla's covering his face
Starting point is 01:22:38 and Dan Yelves draws on the floor again, like, oh, and so Andy's yelling, he's like, she said her feelings were hurt, and she apologized her hurt and you're feeling, oh my coars. No, she apologized for hurting, talked to too many people. And Andy's like, no, and then she apologized for her behavior. And Sierra was like, well, perhaps you didn't hear her
Starting point is 01:23:00 because you weren't trying to hear her. And then she's like, well, perhaps I didn't hear her because I'm so hurt. And she's like, well, perhaps I didn't hear her because I'm so hurt. And she's like, this is your best friend, Lindsay. And she goes, oh God, like you care, Sierra. Why would you fucking care? And she's like, honestly, I don't give a fuck about you, but I care about Daniel.
Starting point is 01:23:15 And Lindsay says, well, at least you're admitting it. And Sierra goes, well, at least someone will, because you won't bitch. What does that mean? It's not even me. My God. They're ridiculous. Although I do appreciate Sierra attempting something in two hours. That was, you know, good job there.
Starting point is 01:23:35 So then we go into, we're still here. Andy gets sick of talking about it and then he starts yelling and like starts crying. But he keeps bringing up the same thing over and over again. He's like, so, do you think Danielle has bad intentions for you and Carl? And then he says, no. Do you think she supports your relationship? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:54 And he's like, but after all she said. And then Danielle and Amanda do their... Oh! Oh! Oh! Carl, I think she supports us based on what I'm hearing. Babe? I didn't tell you to say that. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I want to take that back,
Starting point is 01:24:09 strike that from the record, please, sorry. So I'm just like, I'm still trying to figure out what the deep-ridden issue is, and Gabby's like, I think you're trying to separate how she feels with you guys and how she feels with you separately. And he's like, well, the issue is that she felt about the two of you are what led to you two completely not communicating, going off to the corners and hearing things from
Starting point is 01:24:30 other people and it became a huge game of telephone and people you don't like were involved which clouded your head Lindsay and made it seem a lot more conspiratorial than she meant it to be. She is saying she wasn't trying to go behind your back to gather your enemies. She had jaddy with concerns about your relationship, which you heard tonight. This is not as dire or crazy as it seems to be from where I'm sitting. It's like Jesus Christ. I think he's right. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I think he's right. I think that's a good summation of it. Oh, it's a full-on monologue from Andy. Since when do you need to explain things to Dodo birds? We don't need them to really understand what they're doing. What are you trying to cancel the show? Just cancel it. Then, okay? We don't want people to understand what they're doing wrong. Then they stop doing them. And then what are we left with? Sam, talking about fucking gory, 20 times, you know, which we did. Let them stay wrong. So Andy is like, he's like, well then he excluded her from the engagement
Starting point is 01:25:26 blew her mind. Well, sorry. And her feelings. No, no, it was like a break. It was like a pause in the monologue it really was. And so he blew her mind and hurt her feelings in a way that she didn't expect and cause her to spiral out of your engagement
Starting point is 01:25:39 and somewhat ruin it for you in a way that she never intended for which she has apologized tonight. So it is snowballed through things that are way beyond two women actually, who have actually loved each other and cared each other for a long time. And the reason y'all are fighting so hard, I think, is because you care about each other
Starting point is 01:25:58 and have cared for so long. Is everything upset, correct? They're like, sure, yeah. Yeah, I was like on board, that's too much. That's too much from Andy. You like, sure, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I'm bored. That's too much, that's too much from Andy. You're the umpire. You know what I'm, no, not the umpire.
Starting point is 01:26:10 You're the referee, okay? No one wants a monologue from the referee. Like with the referee's name, nobody even really knows, okay? You're the most famous referee there is, but I don't need a monologue from you, FF. So then, Dan yells like, oh, but I wanna reiterate that like my issue hasn't been with you guys as a couple I mean
Starting point is 01:26:28 Which isn't true. That's just not true But I want your happiness and I just want our friendship to go back to like or at least start something new To figure us out because that's been missing guys and she cries and Lindsay's just kind of watching her And she's like I mean come on Lindsay you can't say you don't miss me and Lindsay's like well no one really picked up my dry cleaning like you did and we got off track but our bond is very special and I'm really hopeful that we can find a version of that after this because it really is hard actually having to go down the elevator to the door man to pick up my uberies instead of you doing it for me. I'm like, oh wow, that counts, and see that counts. Everyone's like, wow, that was really heartfelt. So Andy S. Kyle, he's like, you're the ringleader of the group. What do you think? Do you think
Starting point is 01:27:13 there's a path forward? He's like, I'm out. I'm optimistic. And, you know, I don't think you throw away this thing because people can't get along. I just want people to, I just want people to party over the summer. Can we just party please? And so they're like, okay. You're the one starting, you're the one like, starting this shit. What are you talking about? You started half the fights this season.
Starting point is 01:27:32 So the El is time to do shots and they're bringing out shots. And he's like, we got shots everyone. Carl, we got you water. I'm like, could you give him some sprite or something, can help the guy out? Just cause he's sober, doesn't mean you just gotta give him the saddest thing. Andy does not approve of sobriety. He's like a total anti-sorriety.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He's like, well, Kyle's refusing to drink alcohol, so we got him a shot glass full of sand. All right, let's all watch him do it. Okay, join that, Carl. So Kyle gives a toast, like, through thick and thin, this group figures it out and always finds a good way to have a good time And let's just send it together and if you can't figure it out well, you'll probably won't be invited back to the house. Okay. Bye That's it that brings us to the end of this season of summer house
Starting point is 01:28:17 Well, there was an optimistic note at the end Later that night. And Carl's actually. Oh really? Yeah. He goes, Carl texts Andy and he's like, Hey, Andy, here's a photo of everyone at the table and just want to share a life update.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Got Lindsay and Daniel at dinner. Yeah. We'll keep helping things long. What a day. Thank you again for your guidance and support. I appreciate all you do. I was basically just like a picture of like Lindsay and Danielle, but they weren't sitting next to each other. I forget who was in between them, but they were at a table at dinner. So I guess they were talking at dinner.
Starting point is 01:28:52 So. Oh, there you go. There might be hope for this whole show after all, guys. Yeah, guys, that friendship that I actually know I never cared about, but for some reason we all took sides on might have hope in the future. Yeah, well everybody, hope you've enjoyed being triggered with us all season long. It's been a great one. Yeah, and in case I haven't triggered anyone today,
Starting point is 01:29:15 I just wanna end by saying, I'm still team page. Oh yeah, so I snuck that one in, everyone. Yeah. All right, we'll go, y'all come y'all let us in the comments. For your last chance this season on this show. But now, seriously, thank you everybody for being with us during this show. It's really, you know, I feel like we come to the end of seasons and sometimes we're
Starting point is 01:29:35 just like, okay, that's over, what's next. But this is the end of our seventh season of Summer House. This looks like a big deal for us in our friendship. I feel like I can win our friendship with you, audience. So thank you so much for being with us. We love you guys. Thanks for the new people on YouTube, the old people on the podcast apps, wherever you are. Thank you for letting us live this life that we live. We couldn't live it obviously without your support. So thank you for being here with us. And we'll see next time guys. We forgive you and we hope that you forgive us I'm just happy that summer house is still in the air and that people care about it this much because there was a time when
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