Watch What Crappens - Summer House: Ride or Cry Friend

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

Danielle and Kyle find themselves at odds on Summer House (S7E03) over their loyalties to Carl. Meanwhile, Paige hosts a tea party, and Sam invites a hot trainer to the house.See Privacy Pol...icy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 What happens What crap What What What Happens when there's so what if Hello and welcome to Watch Your Crappens, a podcast. At all that crap on Brava that we just love to watch, I'm Ben Mandelker.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Joining me is one, the only Mr. Ronny Karam, hi Ronny, how are you? Hello Ben, I'm great, thank you. How are you doing today, baby? Just to create you know still rebounding from our crazy crappies weekend. We have such a fun show on Friday despite crazy crazy LA weather. You know we ever won't still have a wonderful wonderful show. So many wonderful categories big winners. Real hot. My amy winning for, best bravo show of the year. I am so excited.
Starting point is 00:03:08 If you missed the show, it's on moment house. It's on all week, I think, through Friday. So you can watch it. We had all sorts of huge, super fun guests. We had Rose Abdu from Hacks. I mean, you know what's funny? Rose was at our show. And then like two days later, she's at like, super fun guest we had Rose Abdu from Hacks. You know what's funny? Rose was at our show and then two days later,
Starting point is 00:03:29 she's at the screen actors guild awards for, because she's a nominee for Best Ensemble for Hacks. And I was like, this is, I mean, that's crazy. You know, it's like, I'm like that juxtaposition of being at these two shows. It's kind of, it doesn't elevate our show in any way. It just is like a very, I can't imagine what it's like to go from like, our show to like, like an actual real award show in the same weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:54 But Rose was there, Kate Flannery from the office, Dealer Riddle from Southside. A lot of our podcast, people in Walter and Katie obviously were doing a band Ryan Bailey, Courtney Frank, Kiki Monique, lots of people. Ariana from Vanderpump rules, Christina Ariel. A lot, there's way more, but go check out the show if you didn't see it. And you can see everyone up on stage presenting really, really such a super fun, wonderful time. If you want to see the show by the way, go to watch crappens.com.
Starting point is 00:04:23 There'll be links there to seeing the show in Moment House. Also to get links for our next show. So here's what's coming up in March. We start March 9th. We're going to be in Charlotte. Then we go to Atlanta, Denver, Salt Lake City, Seattle, and San Francisco. That's all this March. So go grab tickets and also streaming tickets for the crappies over at Watch What Crappens. Also Patreon is where you get our bonus episodes and video recaps for the week. So those are always great too. Thanks to everyone who supports us on Patreon. And in general, we know we throw a lot of information at you at the beginning of this show. But goddamn,
Starting point is 00:05:03 nights like this weekend, both in Scottsdale and in Los Angeles, really make it worth it to us at least. So thanks everybody for being here. Today is summer house in episode 703. Yeah. Wow. This summer house is kind of funny, because there are some episodes where so much happens
Starting point is 00:05:26 and then there's somewhere you're just really watching people mill about a house. And this was a mill about a house episode. Let's be honest. This was a situation, this was an episode where they have to make their episode order because this should have been the first 20, this whole episode should have been the first 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:05:44 of a regular episode. In fact fact that we like sat there watching these people to sort of Amble about talk Sit there. We literally watched a sequence of Chris Sitting one one chair and then moving to another chair, which was not to be can be not to be confused with a different sequence Where Maya and Oliver sat in small chairs and laughed about how small the chairs were. I mean, that was today's episode. This is one of those season.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is like a very Vanderpump rules trying to get their shit back together season. And it's funny because that show was kind of a spin off of Vanderpump rules anyway. At least that's how it started. And, you know, I think they're going through the same thing where they're trying to say, okay, well, we need at least half of a new cast this time. We need a ton of new people. And it's just not working. You can't mix older people in with young people who just talk about fucking the whole time,
Starting point is 00:06:44 like it. And also, they can't be too young. I mean, summer house was about 30 to 35 year olds, right? Still, yeah, really, they're young and not really, you know, still trying to be like rich white, like, you know, bros in the haptoms. Like, the haptoms, the reputation for the haptoms is just like sweater around the neck like, bro, I have a Ferrari. Remember the first episodes were all like, uh, what's his buns talking about flying around in his friends' private helicopter, his private jet or whatever. But it's just so, yes, they're just such trash, you know. And now the cast is like nice and likable and
Starting point is 00:07:31 It makes it different and you can't have such young people in with such old people. It's just not working Okay, I say get rid of the older people. They've served their time. They've been great. I've loved them for these years I'm not saying put turn them into sausage I'm just saying get rid of them for now and just give us a young people Is there being held back this new cast? I don't mind, I actually don't mind the old people and I actually don't feel like this is like a trying to write the ship season because I feel like Summer House has actually been pretty good. I think that like, I don't feel like the ship has gone too far off course and I actually
Starting point is 00:07:59 the first two episodes of the season, I thought were great. But this episode to me was kind of like, okay, like let's maybe we maybe Bravo has ordered too many episodes because they need to fill an entire hour of people doing nothing. And this really should have been this episode should have spanned over two weekends or something like that. But um, but it is funny when you mentioned like summer house origins when it was that crossover episode and it was like the Vanderpump Rules kids all headed to the Hamptons And I remember that crossover on Vanderpump rules and it felt so much like Like the cast of summer house they felt in that episode so wealthy and so like it felt like they all went to private school and like
Starting point is 00:08:41 It was like when she knew I think she was talking about like I don't need a shellfish and they were all looking at her like you, you absolutely trash street urchin. And I was like, oh my God, like all these wealthy people, like just like it's so mortified, they would act like this in some wealthy people. And then you find out that they are just like the same people, you know, it's like, oh, they're not, and they're not, they're no different.
Starting point is 00:09:02 All right, their thing is pretending that they're really elegant and snobby, right? But I think the only person that actually had that kind of money, even though it was from startups, God knows where it's all coming from. You know with Kyle, like a startup and stuff, was Kyle because he'd be driving around in these like crazy expensive sports cars, which he still does every time. But, you know, it's now still half of that cast, but then half of the older people have
Starting point is 00:09:30 become like Carl and Lindsay who are all about influencing, which is the thing I hate the most about a reality star. And then the other half is just young, it really doesn't care about the Hamptons, they're cast from all over the place and are just coming to be on a TV show. So I don't know, it's just maybe like a finding its place moment kind of. So I'm realizing that I said earlier, like it was just a bunch of bitch of rich white people.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It doesn't really have to do with the whiteness. It's just that personality of the Hamptons. You know what I mean? Like the show, show, show, like walking around with your collars up turned. I'm not complaining about the black people on the summer house. Okay, my God, I just heard myself from the past.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I was like, Ronnie, what the fuck dude? No, but funny, because I think the Hamptons does have that reputation like super washed land, but actually I don't know if it really is that, because the last time I was in the Hamptons was several years ago, and I just remember being like, in the summer at least, you know, because everyone goes to Hamptons,
Starting point is 00:10:34 I just remember walking down the street and you hear a lot of women talking like this, like, oh my god, Cheshana, you want to go into the bookstore right now? Come on, let's look in the bookstore right now. And like, you expect everyone to be like, Cheshana, would you like to see the bookstore? But it's not like that at all. I mean, Ramona goes out there, Ramona has a house out there. There are a lot of Ramona's out there.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. And there's someone in Shoshana. I just need to see a book. Yeah, I don't know. All I know about when you're poor, all you know about the Hamptons are storytell, you know, fairy tales of people like, I go to the Hamptons for the weekend. And you just imagine, you know, sweaters around necks and, you know, outdoor fires on, you know, matsins on the beach. And that's a lot of really interesting facts out there. There's a lot of like, newvo reach and there's a lot of, there's a lot of people who like make a big on lostry and then they go out to the Hamptons. I mean, obviously there's the old money.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I think it's the South Hampton is where all the old money is or something like that. It's like the more conservative area. But there's also the douchebags who hit it big on Wall Street and then they get these rentals and they're just awful. Hey, can I ask you a question? Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Why are we acting like this is the first episode of some house music video we've got? And why am I acting, talking with authority about the Hamptons when I've only been there, like, talks in my life. We're fucking idiots. We've been recapping this for seven years, but I guess I'm just trying to say,
Starting point is 00:12:01 like, the roots of this show and where it are now, I wouldn't be watching this show if it was, like, girly girls dressing up, like, for tea parties and playing games that they stole from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You know what I mean? I'm not here for that. That's a fun mind. I agree. I actually do think we need some more men on this show.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I think we need to have that, like, that, some sort of, like, more sexual tension going on because that's when they all go haywire. And the fact that there's really, there's like, there's three men, but the third man is sort of he's taken and he's also not going to be engaging in any of the drunken hijinks and he also looks miserable while he's there right now. It's sort of like you need to have, you need to mix it up a little bit. Also why do we have not, why have we, why has Bravo given up on game and on Southern,
Starting point is 00:12:49 I mean on summer house? Okay, like, Because it's unfair, I'm glad they gave up on us. You know why? It's not fucking fair to have one gay person on the show. They can't fuck anybody. The whole show is about drinking and fucking. So they keep put it,
Starting point is 00:13:01 it's like you give us one gay guy and then wonder why they're miserable on a balcony alone with their hoodie on You know like being upset and then falling in love with the straight guys if they're doing drugs with okay? Like you can't just have one of us, but then you can't have five of us either because Yeah, then I have to totally different show. Yeah When I come I feel like when it comes to gay guys on TV There's like a very specific count
Starting point is 00:13:25 because if you have too many gay guys, then it becomes madness. And then if you have too few gay guys, and it's like tokenism, so I'm gonna say, I think, I think ProvoSh add two to three gay guys or two main gay guys, and then a gay friend of who comes like every other weekend.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Right, like a gay person, okay, they should do, yeah, I agree. They have to do just one of the gayest places, okay. I know a garden lives there. Just, yeah, I love it. They should get a gay guy who has like lots of followers, you know, or whatever, he's very popular in the Hamptons. Yeah, or a family guy.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So he can, when they have their part, yes, but he can't be too powerful because he still is in a share house, you know what I mean? But for their age bracket bracket a powerful gay, who will bring over tons of gays from their friend group? So maybe if they have one or two gays, then somebody can always be fucking strangers. That's how we need it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You know what I'm like? I would like a gay monster. I would like sort of like a wannabe sweater gay, someone who maybe looks like a young Jonathan Adler who comes in with like a sweater on, but he's like really obsessed with wannabe a sweater gay, but he's not of that world, and so therefore he's just like a monster,
Starting point is 00:14:35 and he's like a dictator about what they have to do. I feel like that would be amazing on this show. I would love to have, I think what would really work is a Carl Gay, like a douchebag fuckboy gay. That's what we need. And I think it should be kind of like a straight acting gay, you know, like a butch, a more butch gay because every but the girls and the boys fall in love with that type of guy. And they act like they're really nice and charming, but then they're horrible fuck boys. Because, you know, the boys that they're fucking
Starting point is 00:15:07 are not gonna take that well, you know, and that would lead to a lot of drama. So I think, guys, I think you could do it, and it's not just for the gay community. Do it for the summer house community. You need help. Yeah, thank you. We're here to help.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Because also, the casting has been very good. I like all the people they've cast, probably except Chris, I don't hate him, but he is filling that Alex role. He's trying, he's trying, but it's not really working. Yeah, he's sort of, yeah, he's like a, you ever have like a, let's say you have some sort of bottle, okay, how about this? You have like a bottle that you're washing out in your sink and
Starting point is 00:15:49 there's soap in there and everything. And if you squeeze the bottle, a bubble forms at the, at the, at the top of the bottle, the bottle hole, you know, it forms, but then you'd let go of the bottle and the bubble, the bottle, bubble sort of sucks right back in and never pops or blows off. The bubble just sort of like has promise and then recedes. And I feel like that. And then you're like, oh my god. And that could still poison me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:12 It seems innocent, but it could still poison me. And it wasn't even entertaining. Fuck that bubble. Yeah. I'm with you. And you can even squeeze the bottle up. You can do it like rapid, like you're like, and the bubble opens and closes, opens and closes.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But it never pops. And it never really reaches its potential as a bubble. Yeah. So I mean, I like the casting. I think it's just hard melding the newbies in with the oldies who really want to fight about work. Like that's literally what they want to fight about work.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And then their scenes are about like trying to have babies, which I think works on most shows, but not a show about being young and fucking. On this show, it needs to be like, how do I not have a baby? Like, have we also have boyklicks? You know, we have girlklicks. We need boyklicks too, okay, because honestly, the guys are a little ancillary right now. Again, Carl, they are at the center of the drama and yet ancillary in terms of presence, because Kyle is with Amanda. Carl is with, Carl's with Lindsay presence because Kyle is with Amanda, Karl is with Karlswood Lindsay. So you just have Chris, Chris is the only one who has any sort of like
Starting point is 00:17:10 you know who can it really is gonna engage in and so it's no drama. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, flirting and all of that. I think that we are led to believe that he's gonna be a hot fuck boy because he's hot. But then we find out he's literally only worked out cause his dad made him and he's never been out of the house before because no game. There's no game. And then the other stuff, the Kyle and Carl fight, that's ultimately the women fighting. It's ultimately Amanda and Lindsay coming for each other
Starting point is 00:17:41 because they hate in a passive aggressive way. You know what I mean? Is how I'm seeing it so far. So anyway, that's our dissertation. It was a 15 minute recap today. We'll try again next week. I know. Thanks everyone for being here with a great time.
Starting point is 00:17:55 No, well, dive into it. Yes. Get into it. So Kyle is still, he's all, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's seen coming out of his ears because he's been worked up about Carl. He's complaining at the restaurant and Danielle's gotten mad at him for, for complaining about Carl. So Kyle has gone and walked off, stormed off, and then he's come back in and everything.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And he just feels like, he's like, he basically feels like if Danielle even knew what was going on Monday through Friday, her brain would explode. She just doesn't even know. She's like, Danielle, if you want to say something that I've got for you then, because Carl could walk out right now, and the company wouldn't feel a thing. I don't want to do this. She's like, I don't want to do it either.
Starting point is 00:18:40 He's like, yeah, well, you know what happens Monday through Friday. Come talk to me. And then he storms off. It's like a little steamy moment storming down the hallway. Yeah. And so it's like, God, I just want the bite of salmon. So Daniel said, well, I told you, I didn't want to get involved. I didn't want to get involved, which is why I, Eve's dropped in on a conversation that didn't involve me and then had a, got really mad about the thing that wasn't, not a conversation that was part of. I didn't want to be involved.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And then, Sierra, who was in one of the most over dramatic fights of last season, is like, I just wanted to buy the salmon yaw down. Because I like the biggest, like, the dramatic fighters are all when anyone else is fighting. They're like, oh my god, you guys seriously weren't public. Yeah. And Kyle's actually the worst at that, which goes to prove my point whenever anyone else is fighting. Kyle's like, come on, everybody, everybody, everybody. So then Amanda goes to sit with Kyle and she's like, Kyle and he's just ordered himself
Starting point is 00:19:44 a dirty martini. The guy has fall down drunk. Yeah. And he's like, I was just venting, you know, I've seen like, I've seen something, you know, I've seen, Lindsay hasn't seen. And if ever there was a time for the apocalypse now music to be playing, you guys don't understand. You weren't there with us.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. don't understand, you weren't there with us. Yeah, and so Danielle, I would play it, but the application isn't open. No, you can't play it. You can't play. Kyle doesn't get that. Kyle only ever gets it. Only ever. But the application isn't open.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I don't know where it is. I'm like, I'll spend 15 minutes. So I'm just pointing out that he's, sounds like they've been through a word. You didn't know what he did to those villages. So Danielle's like over at the other table because the cows inside and they're outside and Danielle's like bringing up an addiction issue from over a year ago. For why he should be so lucky to work for him.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That doesn't work with me. Doesn't work for me. So then back, well, I'm sorry, but a year ago isn't that long ago. Okay. Like if I'm getting in trouble for shit that I did a year ago isn't that long ago, okay? Like, if I'm getting in trouble for shit that I did a year ago for my addiction and I'm speaking from a person who's come through a lot of addictions, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, you know, a year doesn't give you like the card where you're completely free and clear of everything you did from a year ago. You're not. Now that said, crowds of fucking asshole for bringing this up in public. What a monster. I think the guy was really wrong to vent that at a table.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Like I think even if he had just like had been having a quiet conversation with Maya alone, it's still probably not appropriate, but it still would be better than complaining about this. While he's drunk, you mentioned this last week, he's drunk while complaining about this at- On TV. It's so bad. So in city, add it's difficult to call.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But he, I mean, he, but he was, it does seem like he was patient with Carl in the sense that like, you know, Carl definitely had some substance abuse issues that, that like would have gotten inspired from a normal, in a normal situation, normal work situation. All right, but I'm also just gonna add that I'm glad that Danielle is sticking up for him
Starting point is 00:21:47 in this moment because it changes later. So I'd just like to say, she's being a very good friend at this dinner for giving it to Kyle. Yeah, so Amanda tells Kyle, Kyle, I just don't want your real feelings to get overshadowed by emotion. And he's like, he's like, aha,
Starting point is 00:22:04 and he reaches and sips his martini. Sort of like, this is not going to help things not get overshadowed by emotion. Commetions, here comes one right now. I'm going to say something scandalous running. Go on, plancer meat. And not only are they meat, they're delicious, especially if they're from impossible foods. They taste like beef. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Impossible is making meat history this summer. Yeah, they are. Summer of Impossible. I am so excited to be spending time, cooking my summer foods, all that good stuff, and guess what? We can use impossible sausages, impossible brats. I mean, it's going to be a great summer for impossible foods. Impossible beef is made from plants
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Starting point is 00:23:34 Okay, in the middle of somewhere, Kyle, so shake it off, shake it off, shake it, Kyle. And he does a shimmy, it's like, smile, Kyle. And so he does the little smile. And then they return to the table. And he's like, yeah, I just had to come back for the best ceremony of a...
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, so they also down and then Daniel's like, hey, Gabby, there's been something that's been like, I've been on the cusp of wine to say, do you, so I just wanna say it. Can you come over here, can you come over here? Can you say it, she goes, okay. So she's like, so we dated the same guy. I mean, he always told me that Gabby was his ex-girlfriend to the point where like I stalked her on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I'm like, I feel like the moment someone just mentions any name I stalked on Instagram, she's like, wow. It got so bad. I even had to stock her on Instagram. And Gabby's like, she's, Gabby says that she's really excited to meet Danielle in person because she already knows who Danielle is. Then she pours some wine in the confessional as it to be like, I'm unbothered, you know, or like I have things to say, but I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I'm just going to pour wine instead. So Danielle's like, yeah, I mean, I did take it that guy. We were inseparable for months, but then he turned flaky. And then I think we hooked up after that too. And Gabby's like, I know, and let me tell you why, because like he actively cheated on me with y'all. And then they show the picture of Coachella that they've been showing us with the blurred out faces.
Starting point is 00:25:04 This guy set next to a girl with also a blurred out face with the arrow that goes, ding! Not Gabby. And then this time they unblurred the face. And it's Danielle. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And Paige goes, oh my god. Paige is like, wow, this is like the most exciting thing that happened to me since Zara had their 40% off sale. Wow. I'm Daniels. Like, well, I knew about Gabby, but I didn't know there was an overlap. Turns out there was. And Gabby's like, well, I broke up with him. Was it on in 2016? No, it's 2017. And she's like, wait, because I want to go chowla with him in 2016 you guys You're going over seven year old T and I'm supposed to fucking care
Starting point is 00:25:50 Who didn't fuck fuck boys in 2016 that's pre-pandemic shit everything was different You know we've all had to go through moments of wiping our asses with our hands This is pre that and I'm supposed to care, the fuck outta here with this story. And Gabby says that when he went to Coachella, she didn't know where he was because he ghosted her. He was like gone, and then just showed up again right before birthday, and Danielle was like, that's funny, because after Coachella,
Starting point is 00:26:16 he just ghosted me. I'm like, but I'm like, I'm like, I don't understand people who have tolerance for these ghosting types. Like, once someone goes to, you just, it's by, buy, like why, like, I don't know when Gabby dumped this guy, but if she continued to date him after he ghosted her for like a week or two weeks, that's like, it's not right. Yeah, but you know, Gabby only dates models. So we know he's super hot and, you know, there's certain things you forgive
Starting point is 00:26:45 when someone's hot enough. That's just how it is. That's why I love age. Yeah. Because age really evens out the playing field. Yeah, I started following. By the way, I started following the guy from last week, Jerez, on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:26:56 because I'm like, please have a bad personality. So that way, I'm not captivated by your hotness. And I'm still pretty captivated by his hotness. However, I'm still in glimmers of like like do more of the douchebaggy stuff is coming out now on his Instagram And I'm like, oh, thank God. This is good. I'm really happy about that. I'll give everyone updates But so far there's a lot of content. There's been content of him like Giving a middle finger to the camera and this is like nodding at the camera at the same time. I'm like, yeah, classic. Well, I was talking to a friend the other day
Starting point is 00:27:30 because I was in Los Angeles. Obviously, so I was catching up with friends and always the relationship comes up with friends. And I said, look, I'm 47. I'm not a spring chicken. And they're like, but that doesn't mean it's too late. I said, no, it's too early like Age is the equalizer, all right
Starting point is 00:27:48 I need like till mid to end 50s where the hot guys end up just being chubby-pult chubby-pult guys because They're gonna be so confused and discombobulated from having been hot and now not being hot They're gonna need help, you know, and I'll just be there with my flappy anti-underarm skin. Being like, it's fun, you know. Put your arm up when we're driving with the windows down and just watch your arm flap like a flag babe. That's how to do it, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They need those ex-hot people are gonna need me and that's what I'm falling in love. Yeah, it's a long game, you know? Yeah, but fucking 2016, fuck off with that. I can guarantee you, if you talk to any gay guy who you didn't know in 2016, but now have become friends with, we've all, it's like a 23 in me of who we fucked. You know, it's like, look at the trees
Starting point is 00:28:41 of who we've both fucked in our lives. I can't take this as a big deal. Yeah. So then Gabby says that when she finally broke up with him, she had all of his social media passwords and she went nuclear. And basically she had posted this message on all of his social medias,
Starting point is 00:28:58 including LinkedIn that said, I'm a liar and a cheater and I don't deserve the girl who I claim to be my girlfriend for the past four years. Gabby Prescott is one of the best people I have ever met and I have wasted her time and taken advantage of her love and trust. I'm sorry for this, but it is a pattern of behavior. They just like me.
Starting point is 00:29:18 This was on LinkedIn. Gabby's like, yes, just like, wow. Wow. That's the best thing I've ever read in my life. And Gabby says, he is so lucky. I'm a bigger person and didn't do anything off. And so they're like, well, I guess we all learn not to fuck with Gabby today.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So Danielle hugs Gabby. And Paige goes, what a classic New York City connection. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So then Amanda's like, everyone down there, you want to go to Capri now? So they're going to go to a club called Capri, which I can't tell if that's named after the pants or the room in Bouguda back.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Beppo. Buddy the way. Sounds fab. So back home, Kyle goes home and takes this close off and then we see them all coming back home and Maya is in Paige's room and she's like, why do I even live here? I don't even know where I live anymore. Paige is like Be gone with you Maya. So Maya leaves and Sierra goes, I hate Maya. Paige is like, yeah me too. We should call her. So they're like come in here and sleep in the other bed in here and like, which is like, yeah, me too, we should call her. So they're like, come in here and sleep
Starting point is 00:30:23 in the other bed in here. Like, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, get your computer and your little AirPods and squeeze McStress, you little, you've got five seconds, get in here. Yeah, and then like, it's basically just Kyle and Chris drunk outside, jumping in pools and stuff. And then Kyle of course then winds up having
Starting point is 00:30:41 a drunken late night binge of tortilla chips. Cause I think what I'm divining from all the footage is that Kyle is actually supposed to be in keto. And so he's just eating these chips and he's like, nothing more American than a chip being transformed into a spatula for being fat. Yeah. And this is one of the parts we were talking about where this episode is really struggling because this whole coming home thing,
Starting point is 00:31:06 they're just showing us so many weird things. And then the arrow person, whoever was hired to be the ding and arrow with the name pointing at somebody, they just start showing people in random parts of the house going like, ding Amanda, ding page, ding Maya, ding Sierra. What are you doing? I know, it's excessive.
Starting point is 00:31:26 To like to know, and- What's with the dings? Nothing's happening. We did, there's spatial relationship to each towards each other was not consequential. You know, you could just point the house, external shot to house, establishing shot house, exterior, night.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And they're just do a big, big one big arrow and then have everyone's names, everyone's in the house. So now it's morning and Again in case we're hoping that things we get more exciting in the morning. We are now We hear Amanda saying that she might boil some eggs this morning So that's and then someone else I think it's some out there. She's like yeah, I know how to boil edge I learned from TikTok and then and then she says like yeah, so like my hot boxing trainer is coming out tonight.
Starting point is 00:32:08 So we're going to go do that. And he's going to come over and they're going to be having a man with power. Yeah. I really like a powerful man. Like, man, a position like, yeah, it's like the chick from, uh, just from, uh, winter house. But this one literally just means somebody strong. She's like, yeah, he's like the chick from, just from Winterhouse. But this one literally just means somebody strong. She's like, yeah, he's X NFL.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So, you know, clearing my roster is a dream, because you can't sell Lada frogs before the prince. That's what my mom always said. I mean, the frog tally really is racking up, but still, it's like, come on, Sam. You're your trainer. I worry about the frog metaphor. When people talk about you have to kiss a lot of frog
Starting point is 00:32:46 before you find your prince. Like, I worry about that because I feel like there's almost an implication that you kiss a bunch of, you know, like, there's like a lot of terrible guys you go through. I get what it means. Because you go through a bunch of mezz before you find your wonderful. You make you feel like a makes you think of HPV.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's also like the implication that one day you're going to find a man that you're going to be able to change and transform into a prince. And I feel like that leads to a lot of, you know, people like Brittany marrying Jacks on Vanderbub rules, you know. It's like, oh, I thought you'd check it because I take it as like one of those billboards.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's like one in full people as HPV, you know? There could be that too. I think it's your mom just saying, listen, honey, don't worry, everybody has it. You'll be fine. We've all kissed a lot of frogs or something like that. No, I mean, I get it. I get what the metaphor is, but if you really think about it, it's basically saying, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You'll find someone who seems like they'll be terrible, but actually you can make them great. So the problem was never that the frog was terrible. Anyway, it was just a frog. The frog was still the fucking prince, even when problem was never that the frog was terrible anyway. It was just a frog. The frog was still the frog was still a fucking prince even when it was a frog. It was very sweet. It was not it was not fucking other women at Coachella. You know what I mean? They're like following around other women at Coachella. No, the frog was a sweet person. But the whole point was the frog was a frog and couldn't be not a frog until someone came along and
Starting point is 00:34:05 released them from their frog state. So because if they were like, if they were like a prince amongst frogs, they would be a prince. They would be a prince that looked like a frog land. But the frogs don't care about princes as much, you know what I mean? Also I think that frogs basically, I think that was a lucky story for whoever kissed the frog because all about other girls after that started kissing frogs and they just like, you know, blew up into jacks, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like, I don't think every frog turned into a good person. I think she just got lucky with the frog that was stalking her. I think, and by the way, that frog, I said I don't even know if I trust that prince because that frog had to talk such game to get that woman to kiss her, kiss him. Like she kissed a like makes me think that that prince probably. Manability. Yeah, manipulative. Narcissists who like got people to do things for him because like when else can a frog can get someone to kiss it like for me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, basically that frog would be booked for assaults at this point because it was co-version. That frog would be on a Bravo show by now.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That frog would have his own sped off. That frog would be decky envelope deck. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. So, Carl and Lindsay FaceTime Danielle and Danielle's like, oh my god, you guys look so great. I can't believe I'm without you. You're in a wedding. What's the wedding like? Is it gonna be like, you guys is the wedding? Tell me, yeah, everything about the wedding. I only live for you.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And Lindsay's like, what you look at this out here, Carl, that's your line. I was like, it's like the little Italy of the West Coast out here Like seriously, yeah, it's like a me there And then he also I miss you guys. I wish you were here. Yeah, we wish That it was still just the two of us not face time here right now Such a bummer and Carl goes yeah, it feels weird not being there with you Yeah, Carl could you that like a line again
Starting point is 00:36:05 with like the way we said we should do it? It feels weird that we're not there with you. It'll creep out the way down y'all. You're getting closer. It's like the Italy of the West Coast. Hi, Carl, this stop now. By the way, I love that Danielle is like, I wish you guys were here and they don't say anything like,
Starting point is 00:36:23 oh, we wish you were here. They're just like, oh We're indifferent about our location and proximity to you So Danielle's like, well, sorry to do this on a wedding weekend But it's weird for me not to tell you guys because last dinner last night at dinner Krab was talking to my about your work situation. I overheard it and he was being like intense about you like His past not showing up to wheat meetings, doing drugs, and you should be so lucky that he kept you on. And now you're asking for a raise and Carl's like, oh, I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like I try and come up with something, but I left my computer at home. Yeah, this was not part of the script that Lindsay had written out for me. So I really don't know what to say. And you know what, my involvement in a business is like so important. Like in my humble opinion, they're like fucked without me. Like who's going to be the one who's going to like go to Cincinnati and take a picture with love and boy and be like, love, but I Instagram. He's going to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:23 She's like, yeah, in my opinion, you should not work for this person. We get it done, done, done. So then Danielle has done her shit stirring for the day and so she goes out and talks to Chris and he's sitting there with his headphones on. I'm just like, hey bro, you look like me like when I'm working.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Ha, ha, ha, I work a lot. Ever take the train? What's that like when I'm working. Haha, I work a lot. I ever take the train. What's that like? I love it. Yeah. And so, and he's like, yeah, it's cool. And she's like, so you were dancing last night. Like you got rejected by a girl.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He's like, yeah, yeah. I hope everyone comes out tonight. Because I put hairspray on my hair last night. And so, I mean, I put it in my hair every single night, actually, but let's go out tonight. She's like, okay, cool, you're cool. She also took a phone video of him getting rejected by a girl.
Starting point is 00:38:15 She's like trying to bond, at least Danielle's trying. Yeah, she's trying with the new cast, like to bond and make new friends, but Chris doesn't really seem to understand, and he's certainly not going to appreciate the from video of him being rejected in a bar from like behind a plant in Capri. Yeah. So we go to Gabby FaceTiming with her sister Danielle and she says that they were born like 21
Starting point is 00:38:37 months apart and they are like totally like they're like BFF. She's like, you know, we're totally co-dependent like a year ago when she had to move to New Orleans, it was like the rug was pulled out from under me. It was like one of those disgusting Scorpios coming through and just destroying my life. I mean, she was like my built-in best friend, my built-in plus one. Like we did a plan with together. We got a fashion shows together. We watched TV shows together. We watch the bakes together. We both like we go to pet boys together. We Like we both like vacuum together. We each hold one side of the handle. We do that together. We do everything together I love when she went from we watch TV together. We watch the bakes together. Oh my gosh. Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:22 We watched the bits together. It's like, oh my gosh, yeah. So she's like, yeah, Danielle and I were like talking about Blank, and she said he told her that we're broken up, and I cannot and will not blame Danielle, because she was just as much of a victim of his scheme of lies. And I'm so glad to know her one-on-one, because, well, one, he's gonna shit his pants and I thrive in that space. And two, she's an incredible girl. I mean, my ex has incredible taste.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah, so now everyone's in the kitchen and Paige is announcing that they can be doing a tea party outside. It's gonna be dressy and we're gonna eat sandwiches and then we're gonna drink tea and we're gonna drink clever boy, and we're gonna eat sandwiches, and then we're gonna drink tea, and we're gonna drink clever boy tea, and we're gonna spill the tea, and then we're just going to look at people whose name start with tea and talk about how terribly they're dressed. It's gonna be a great day. Immediately lost me. We're gonna drink a lover boy tea, ding, thank you. Self promotion of lover boy.
Starting point is 00:40:24 We're gonna spell some tea, ding, you don't get to say that. T-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D- happened with Chris. And then we learned from Paige that the one thing she learned from her grandpa, if you don't put the cheese right on the bread, you don't get the taste of the cheese. So no condiments in between cheese and bread, otherwise the cheese just disappears into the sandwich. It's a bold thing. You know, I don't disagree with that necessarily. I really did stop to think about it. And I was like, she's right in a way. I do love a white bread sandwich with just some cheddar in it or a monster with nothing else. Sometimes maybe a little mustard. But then if you just put cheese,
Starting point is 00:41:14 but then you put a lot of condiments, there's nothing to absorb the whiteness of the condiments, so it kind of squirts out at the show. And it slides, everything slides. So you sort of need to put the condiments But maybe you do something wild and put the condiments in the bottom bottom slice, you know I don't really know I will say that Paige's grandpa had a lot of stains on his shirts That's my guess probably so now the girls are getting into their tea party clothing and then and then the guys had out to the brewery And by the guys I just mean Kyle and Chris for a very boring time to the brewery and by the guys, I just mean Kyle and Chris
Starting point is 00:41:45 for a very boring time at the brewery. And so Amanda, they're all there. And Paige says, guys, we have a server coming and I don't know what he looks like. So depending on how he looks, we're gonna ask him to take off his shirt. And so he was like, yeah, I'm gonna respectfully objectify if he's super hot, which made me feel bad that when this guy does show up, Daniel, they was like, yeah, I'm gonna respectfully objectify if he's super hot, which made me feel bad that
Starting point is 00:42:06 When this guy does show up Daniel, they're like, oh Hi, so Well, yeah, I sure think I didn't hire a stripper. I thought she was gonna hire a stripper who also serves sandwiches She literally hired a catering waiter. You can't do that to catering winners I know at least I get good service this time You can't do that to catering winners. I know. At least I get good service this time. No, she didn't.
Starting point is 00:42:25 She didn't get his answer. He gave fucking shitty service and then he left before everything was even cleaned up. Like who does that? That's true. That's why I'm upset with the season of Summer House. I'm mad at a cater waiter, okay? That's how I'm spending the rest of my day. So yeah, they're like abusing their power over Daniel.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They're like calling him screaming from to come out and everything. And he also was moving those big ass umbrellas over to them. And those umbrellas are probably difficult to move. So that was a lot of work that he did. Just trying to get the way the way the unions, like, oh my god, thank God so much for this show. Just trying to get the credit. I was so upset. Okay show. Just trying to get rid of it. That was so hard. I was waiting for this.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Okay, so it's boring. So then page is like, well, inside my T-Pot are cards that I've written. And if you choose not to answer, you have to take a shot. Does my grandfather, did he own a deli? Guess he did. Okay, no one has to take a shot. So who at this table would want a threesome?
Starting point is 00:43:24 I would with Amanda. I would with Amanda. I would with Amanda. And then it's like, who most likely do anal and Sierra's like, I feel like Sam would do anal. And she's like, I would like literally never let anyone violate me, but I appreciate it. And then it comes out that page actually is butt plugs. And she's like, I did it once only because I appreciate it. And then it comes out that page actually is butt plugs. And she's like, I did it once only because I misread.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I thought it said butt plugs were in style. It said page mean as huge mistake. I read butt plugs on the label and I was really though on energy that day. So I thought I would try anything. Mesh. Here comes one right now. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable. I love my kid, but is a new parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest
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Starting point is 00:44:46 in the middle of the night, you'll feel less alone. So if you like to laugh with us as we talk about the hardest job in the world, listen to, I love my kid, but wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So then we get a song, get away gotta get away and Kyle and Chris do their wacky bits. What's your sad to watch is Kyle's like is this a pulled or a push or and then they get to this brewery and they're outside and They like it's a lot of them playing connect for for the rest of the episode like oversized
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yard lawn sized connect for and like we see They like, it's a lot of them playing Connect 4 for the rest of the episode. Like, oversized, yard, lawn-sized Connect 4. And like, we see Kyle goes or Chris goes to bring the set over to wherever they're standing, and then all the chips fall out. And they're like, oh man. I was like, wow. Gravity. So crazy about those. Vades is like, who would you not let a ranger or son?
Starting point is 00:45:44 And I was like, I vote Sam. Cause she's a spainal. Okay. Don't you feel you know? And Sam's like, mom's on me ironically, so I don't know. And my is like, well, I love kids. So like, I don't want any of you all dating my son.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Cause like, I would give my life to my child and then like, I would not have a life. And like, I'm not gonna have somebody dating my son. Yeah, because she doesn't want to have kids. And she talked about how all of her nose that she doesn't want to have a kid, but he's willing to look past that, but she doesn't want to diminish their dream.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Like, as someone else's dreams for her, you know. So Amanda, she has also, I don't wanna hold something in my body that long. It's like holding in a fart. I she goes, also, I don't want to hold something in my body that long. It's like holding it apart. I was like, hmm, I understand that. So Amanda says that she wants to have kids but it's not in the cards right now and she talks about how she went off of the birth control
Starting point is 00:46:36 and that she hasn't had a period since November. And she's like really nervous to go to the OB and Sierra is like, oh, you have to go right now. And so basically, and then page goes, what if, okay, this guy's just a fun game. What if the doctor comes back and says, Hey, Amanda, we regret to inform you, but you can't have kids. Have you thought about that? I'm like, yeah, I think she's thought about that page. I think that's probably why she's scared to get this checked out.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah, pages really going there. think she's thought about that page. I think that's probably why she's scared to get this checked out. Yeah, pages really going there, and Amanda's like, you just grow up and you just like think, like you're gonna do it the normal way. Like I grow up, I get married to someone who's cheated on me a lot of times. And then like we're happy suddenly. And then you know, if we're not as happy,
Starting point is 00:47:20 then we decide to have a baby to fix a relationship, you know? And Gabby's like, yeah, we're like trained to think it's easy. It baby to fix the relationship you know and Gabby's like yeah we're like trained to think it's easy it's like being models you know then you learn to grow up that not everybody really has it and so when ones that you find that do go to Coachella and cheat on you you got to overlook it a little bit. Yeah so then we go back to Count and Chris and they're playing Connect 4 still and Kyle's like remember the time I come Is you to come to the end and hang out with me? Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:50 And then they they don't even bother making a scene. I commend you for writing Chris and Kyle stuff down because to me They don't show up for another 20 minutes. I was like no. Yeah, well They come back to them. I was like no, you're not gonna do anything and then sure enough they were like Hey, it's would seem like beer. I hear it is, here it is. Yeah. And then, so then page is like, I wonder what Kyle and Chris are talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And they're like, imagine how much, how boring their conversation probably is, right? How boring do these two people that seem to have nothing in common and do not even connect. I wonder what they are doing. How are they passing the time? So then it cuts back to them still talking about babies. And Amanda is like, I didn't think I'd be in this situation. And Danielle's like, well, good news. You are more than bringing a child into this world. Okay. And Paige is like, well, Danielle says,
Starting point is 00:48:46 yeah, and with Kyle, like what he said was really fucked up, you guys. Like he's lucky to have a job because I hired him when no one else would. And Sierra's like, yeah, but to be fair, there probably was a time when Carl couldn't get a job, you know? Yeah, so, man, it's like, if I told you when it was like every time Carl came into the office
Starting point is 00:49:04 at a certain point in time, there were like a lot of things he did that any other company would have fired him for. And it was like constant. And it was coming, wasn't coming from like Miracleel, it was coming from like other people. So there's like a lot going on not, and it's like not like you got stepped in, yeah, but like I know Lindsey and Carl your friend. So like maybe like like like Kyle and Carl worked this out instead of like reaching out to them and letting them know about the conversation. And Danielle's like, yeah, that should be sailed. I already text you know. Yeah, I talked to a buff ready. She's like, oh, you did. And she goes, well, I'm a mad at Danielle. I get in. I just like one Kyle and go to be resolved. So then Maya's like, oh, guys,
Starting point is 00:49:51 store conversations, like, have nothing to do with us. And we have better things happening. So like, where are we talking about them? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Maya. Yeah. So now they get they're gonna get a chain page says that we let's get changed. We can meet up with the guys. So then we go back over the brewery where Kyle and Chris are still playing connect for And there's like no all of their out there yet, but the whole Knowledge empty but Oliver shows up with his friend Rob and
Starting point is 00:50:17 And now a little Rob he brings a short friend who gets completely shafted the whole night It's like that is, he's short. I know. Poor Rob. So the girls are just drunk and they're dancing in the house and everything. And Sam says that the hot trainer guys have come to about two hours.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So now they go over to the brewery and they meet up with everyone. And Paige is like, hi, I have a team party. I got everyone drunk. And I didn't really for you. And everyone's like really hammering, hi, oh, I got everyone drunk and I didn't really for you. And like everyone's like really hammered Kyle. I don't enjoy it. So then we have a little Sierra and Chris Sien,
Starting point is 00:50:51 which is super ox. And so you're like, so you and Kyle had some alone time, huh? And he goes, yeah, I was like an ideal date. She goes, oh, yeah, that is you made out. And he's like, oh, is that an ideal date to you? What do you like? She goes, well, I mean, I'm a nurse. So if I need my head checked or anything, she goes, no, not your girl. The cornyest thing
Starting point is 00:51:10 a guy could say is, could you take care of me if I need A, B, and C or XYZ? Okay? I'm not interested in taking care of any guys with any elements. And he goes, well, I'm a little, I like headed right now. Who taught you how to flirt? You're terrible. You're fat. They need to just start firing people in midseason and trying new people. I know. And Sierra's like, well, I mean, if you pass out
Starting point is 00:51:32 and have a heart attack and need CPR, then like absolutely. And he's like, oh, mouth, mouth, CPR or regular. And she's like, oh, wow, you're really, you're really flirting with me. I mean, like I'm someone who fell in love with Austin Crowell. And even you are being too much. Like, it's bad if I'm like turned off by you right now.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. So then Gabby is playing Cornhole or she's over at the Cornhole place of Rob. And Rob goes, oh, hey, you want to play this? And she's, um, you're not my team. I know. Oh, she just, God, poor Rob not my team. I know. Oh, she just, God. We're Rob is one line. He gets shot down.
Starting point is 00:52:08 He wasn't shooting for anything. I love that that's coffee thing. She's just really mean to guys. Yeah. So, um, so then Amanda's trying to tell Kyle that Danielle, like, Daniel, what Danielle is feeling and cause like, I don't give a shit. She's like, hold on. And Daniel's like, well, I just heard my a shit she's like hold on and Daniel's like well
Starting point is 00:52:25 I just heard my name and that's not good. I'm not gonna be the I'm not gonna be on the bat And if someone being messy about how about how have they handled stuff. I'm like well Except you kind of inserted yourself into this one Danielle Yeah, this is when it turns because now Danielle is making everything about herself And this is her drama and now she's gonna go about to go on about it all day and night and it's sad. It's like back to Old Danielle. All you can do is kiss Lindsay's ass and follow Lindsay around. And now, even without Lindsay there, all you can do is hang on to Lindsay for a storyline.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Like come on. I mean, apparently later this season, there's some drama with Danielle and Lindsay and they're no longer friends. And I'm so excited to see what that Danielle is because this one is old like I can't, you know. So she's like, uh, sounds like, you know, it's such for you because I would be defending my friend like you did. But then Amanda is telling Kyle that Danielle already tattletailed and so kind of like,
Starting point is 00:53:22 fuck off, dude. I hate that we're talking about this shit And I'm and I was like we'll be over it But like she wants to talk to you about it. Of course she storms off and Danielle We didn't talk about the fact that there was a storm off montage earlier because they were all talking about the fact that Kyle loves the storm off So then Daniels and Daniels whole thing is she's like, I don't want to talk to Kyle right now because he's wasted It's just be a circular conversation. So then Josh arrives, Josh is the trainer,
Starting point is 00:53:49 the hot trainer and he comes, he shows up, it's like chomping some gum. He's like, it's like, hey, how's it going? And she's like, hi, oh my God, like, it's crazy. I've never seen any of my trainers in anything that's like, not their clothes. Like, I'm so impressed, you don't wear only under armor. Like wow, what a big step for you.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You wear a brown kind of flaming shirt thing. Wow, so cool. You look like a latte spilling a slow motion. Congratulations. Love the shirt. And he's like, hey, are you trying to feel my abs? Yeah, by the way, I try to stay away from alcohol, but I'll go to the bar with you So he goes with her and then page sees Oliver and she's like rubbing his chest
Starting point is 00:54:34 She's like, you are the best guy in the house. So like all my name when we're having a moment I'm creasing his chest because like I've wanted to since last summer. Maya, could you give us a minute, please? Crashing is just because like I've wanted to since last summer. Maya, could you give us a minute, please? Yeah. Maya's like, okay. So now Sam's talking to Josh. They're having a conversation and Sam's like, you know, it's funny because like I normally wear a boxing glove necklace.
Starting point is 00:54:55 So it's like funny that you came like decked out and like boxing pendants. Like, could you imagine if I wore my boxing glove necklace while you were wearing your boxing pendants and then like that like it's against the backdrop of the fact that you're like a boxing coach and I'm like a boxing student like you see what I'm trying to say here he's like yeah I think it's like a sign sign of like maybe good things happening yeah I totally feel that way. It's like let's just leave it at that. It's like they're trying to have some sexual banter over like James Avery trinkets of boxing gloves. So where does fucking thing? So she's like, yeah, well, I'm glad she came because like what makes me attracted to guys?
Starting point is 00:55:37 And I don't need to know that you're attracted to me right now. It's a light, you don't have to say it. You do not have to say it right now. Like, you're down and I mean, yeah, I'm not like. And he goes, it's not clear. She says, yeah, actually it's coming through. So look, I'm rarely lost for words because usually I'm a talker and he goes, is that right? It's like, oh my God, everyone's just fucking striking out today, man.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah. Just struck out with the audience. Now Sam's striking out with this guy. Sierra's struck out with, Sam's struck out with, is Chris struck out with, is, just struck out with the audience. Now Sam's striking out with this guy. Sierra's struck out with, Sam's struck out with, is Chris struck out with Sierra? Sorry. Rob got, I think blurred out. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Where's Jerez? No one's doing well. Where's Jerez bringing back? I mean, I don't care if he's giving middle fingers on Instagram, you know? Bring him back. I feel like, I feel like Jerez has probably asked for money at this point, because every time he shows up,
Starting point is 00:56:24 they turn the whole thing into him. They're like, uh, wear this mic, please, and stand right there without your shirt while we keep a camera on you for six hours straight. Yeah. So now, now we have the scene where Maya and Oliver are like, hey, let's go sit down in these small chairs, and she's like, oh, my hips won't fit in that one. So they, um, they sit in really small chairs. I'm like, whoa. And then she invites them to stay over the house tonight. Yeah, this Oliver and Maya relationship isn't doing great today either.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It's a little too normal. I can fit in the chair. And then she sits in the chairs like you cool. She is, yeah, cool. I was like, well, good checking in with them. So then Daniel and Chris are talking. And then somewhere Kwame is watching and saying wow the one that got away Sure banter
Starting point is 00:57:10 So Danielle and Chris are talking and she's like so how was your how was your day with Kyle and he's like Uh our conversation revolved around Partying more just yeah, well, I need to have a conversation with them. So It's the weekend he wants the party. It's not about trying a conversation with them. So, it's a good game. It's the weekend. He wants the party. It's not about trying to fix everything now. It's about having a good time. Because, yeah, well, if you want a party, don't talk to you about my friends.
Starting point is 00:57:32 If you want a party and not have the conversation, that's not gonna work. And he's like, well, then tell him that. And she goes, which is funny, because he just said don't have a conversation. So she goes, I can't, because he's wasted. So now she went from wanting to have the conversation, him saying, you don't do it, because it's the weekend, him saying, well,'t because he's wasted. So now she went from one of the conversation, him saying, you don't do it because it's the weekend,
Starting point is 00:57:48 him saying, well, then you should tell him. And she goes, but I'm not going to, I don't want to. And then we see that she's been having this full-voiced conversation right across from Kyle's right there. Kyle is sitting one chair down for the couch. And Kyle's like, what? And she goes, Kyle, I'd love to have a conversation with you, but we're just not the right
Starting point is 00:58:08 space. And he goes, oh, I see your conclusion is a waste fill. Yeah, I don't think it would be productive. And he's like, wouldn't it be easier if I just came out and said, I would love to hear you talk about anything but me. She goes, oh, that's rich. He goes, well, every time you got here, it's been rich because well every time every time you got here It's been like word every since he got it's been like word vomit about me and Danielle's like word vomit about you
Starting point is 00:58:32 Because of what you've done. I've done. Yeah, and now you're trying to flip it on me. That's so cute dude She's literally the worst thing ever. Hey Danielle call Carl up. I dare you the worst thing ever. Hey, Danielle, call Carl up. I dare you. Miss toxic fucking as you toxic fucking. And so he starts storming out again. And she's like, and this is why I won't have a conversation with him. Oh, this is where the montage of Carl storming office. Because then yes, Sarah says, Kyle cook wins the most dramatic because I've never seen a man storm off like he does. And then we see all the footage of him storming us.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah, it's like two years ago storming off at the reunion. One year ago storming off at a restaurant yesterday. Storming up five seconds right now. So he storms off going, fucking, dude, you're fucking done. So now Danielle is with the girls. And she's like, I came here wanting to resolve that. And Paige goes, well, I don't think you need to resolve it, though.
Starting point is 00:59:30 You know what I'm saying? Like when I'm at a Nordstroms and see something that's $400, I resolve it by going to a Nordstroms rack where it's about $160. Sometimes you resolve it by moving away from it. To me, I was like, well, I'm just not a friend who throws things under Rugs and page goes well, I feel like you throw yourself Under the bus for a lot of shit that you don't need to throw yourself under the bus for and Daniel is well
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm loyal to a fault. I love my people and seriously, and that's okay She starts crying she later. That's okay. And then here comes, here comes a little page with her usual anti-lensy. I mean, that finger goes straight up in the air and here she comes. She's just like waiting for her chance to jump. Yeah, I'm gonna say this. I may be totally honest with you
Starting point is 01:00:19 because I've known you for like five years. And I'm so glad we're having our first conversation together. So have I ever felt for once summer that Lindsay has ever rode for you? Do you ride for, the way you ride for her now? And I've been around her for like five years and it's hard. She's an old lady. I have to feed her all sorts of mushy peas and help rip stairs. Okay, so I know how she operates.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And I know how Danielle, you ride for your friends and I think it's like mother fucking admirable and sad, but mainly admirable. But I know for a fact that at last night, we were at dinner and Kyle was talking smack about Danielle, that Carl and Lindsay would sit there and not say anything. You are a very good friend to them.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Do they give you that? Do they give you that? Do they give you that? And Danielle's just crying. She's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I mean, that was it the whole time. Pages right though. She may be, she may have an anti-Lindsay agenda, but she's completely right. Yes. Yeah, that's the thing. Her anti-Lindsay agenda isn't totally unfounted. I can just see she's like, Lindsay's the most annoying fucking person in the world, and I don't want to be friends with her. I get that.
Starting point is 01:01:28 It's just that sometimes I'm Lindsay's side too. And she just always seems to be sneaking around waiting to bring down Lindsay. I feel like Lindsay brings herself down, like you could be doing something better with your time. But it is funny seeing someone tell Danielle all this stuff because she's like, like deeply she just knows this is true. Yeah, you know, yeah, she does
Starting point is 01:01:48 So now they all go back to the house and Danielle's like I will never want to see Kyle for a million years Okay, good night, and I like that they put Danielle app developer Okay, look at the show's been on for 45 minutes. They're like now that she's mad. She's Danielle the app developed a full context of her rage. So So Josh has to work tomorrow. So Sam is like, well, you can go home tonight if you want or you can also sleep here. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I know I'm not wearing my boxing necklace, but you can just sort of imagine the excitement and the chemistry we'd have if we both had our jewelry on. She's like sure. So he's texting the whole time, not paying attention
Starting point is 01:02:30 to anybody, and they're trying to do it like that with you, try to get a party started, but it's not really happening. Yeah. And he's like, hold on, I just need a minute because I'm like texting. And so she gets up on the table and she starts sexy dancing, like trying to get him turned on or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And he's like, hold on, I just need a second. And then he keeps texting and she's like, oh my God, fuck this guy. Yeah. And he's like sitting in like low chairs. The whole rest of the episode, he just keeps on sitting on low chairs. And so she's like up on the island dancing. He's really ignoring her. And then yeah, she bass is like, I'm looking for like a guy who's like jump
Starting point is 01:03:05 up on the counter and like dance with me. Not the guy who's gonna watch, okay? So then they all just, then they, most of the house goes upstairs, go to bed and Sam and Josh get into bed together. And Josh is like, hey, is it cool if I sleep here in this bed? I'm like, sort of, you're already in the bedroom and the door's closed and the lights are off. And she's like, um, door lights, you know, you know how to sleep right? She goes, you stay there, I stay here, no funny business.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So then Danielle's still being a drama queen, but there's no Lindsay or Carl to go complain to, so she texts Robert. I'm so over this. and he texts back what? She says, tell you tomorrow, which is his test to call. Right. You know, that's his test to be like,
Starting point is 01:03:53 hey, I really care. Tell me about it now, but he doesn't. Yeah. And then the guys, Chris, Kyle and Rob, blurred out. They're all like dancing and doing jumping jacks and everything. And then like, people start to go to bed and then Chris passes out in a chair. And he's like passed out for like an hour and the clock goes fast.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And then he wakes up and he goes upstairs. He sits in another chair and kind of passes out. And then he like eventually makes his way to his bedroom. But then he listens at the door. It's just really weird. He listens at the door and then he walks in. So then in the morning, it's kind of awkward. So I'm like, he's not for me.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I need someone his like as amazing and table dancing is me. And so Josh goes down to the kitchen where Chris is cooking. And he's like, how much better you have? And he's like, uh, plenty, I think. And then Sam comes in and goes, you know what, Chris, you really need to turn up the speed with this you're losing your audience She's I mean she's right, you know, she's right because when you're making pancakes, they sort of take longer than you expect each one and You have a small amount of time to get those pancakes ready for everyone before everyone just gives up on the whole thing
Starting point is 01:05:03 It was it's what you have a move on Yeah Yeah, but no, he's like, but not everyone's here. She's if you if you make the pancakes, people will come to the kitchen and eat the pancakes, okay? But like you can't make them like one by one. So frustrated. So the Gris serves all the pancakes. And then I think that Kyle has to eat eggs and cheese for his keto. He's like a man to pull out some cheese and some and some heart-bo Xan and Kyle just looks so sad. He just wants that pancakes. So yeah, he's sad and he says he needs vitamin D because he's sick of talking about the same shit. And Sam goes, I fell a pool day coming on. So they start doing that and Gabby goes, Gabby and Danielle hang out
Starting point is 01:05:43 and talk about how they really like each other despite the guy or whatever. And then Danielle is like, yeah, I mean, I get it, but like, I'm really over-cow right now. I'm just fast as fine. He's like, come on, bro. Yeah. So people are packing, people are tanning, and Amanda is talking to Sam, and she's like,
Starting point is 01:06:01 how was Josh? And she's like, oh, he's like a nice boy, but that's it. Yeah, I'm not in love with him. Because Josh at this point is now just like sitting in the foyer on like a little bench on his phone. And I was like, is he calling an Uber? Is he calling a friend?
Starting point is 01:06:16 He's just sitting there trying to escape this house. He's literally sitting right at the front door. He's so funny, like waiting for his parents to come to come up. I know. People are like leaving to go back to the city. They, like waiting for his parents to come to come up. I know. People are like leaving to go back to the city. They're like, bye Josh, nice to meet you. He's like, I was a plumber.
Starting point is 01:06:32 So then Kyle is talking to Daniel and Gabby. And he's like, all right, Danielle, listen, we need to talk. She's like, I don't want to. He's like, well, I don't want there to be unnecessary anxiety. She's like, well, you were nasty to me. Okay, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:06:44 We're gonna have the conversation. It really hurt to hear you talk about Carl that way. And like, I don't want our relationship to have problems because of them, but like, I do go hard for them and maybe too hard for them. And I take up personally, but I don't want us to be talking about it. Well, I want to say, I'm sorry, because you kind of walked into a very sensitive subject that honestly, I'm not handling well, and that is like a friend and not a CEO, and I'm like, just, I'm not cut out for this. I just like, and I just texted Carl last night, I texted him two words, Leverboy.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Oh, and then I said, wait, no, take that back. I texted two more words. I said, I'm done. I think things are snowballing. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I could just fire him. And that makes me incredibly sad to think about. And she's like, you know what, you need to have another hard conversation with Carl. He's like, I don't know what to do. Fire him. Carl is under the spell of
Starting point is 01:07:38 Lindsay. And when they show the scenes from next week of this conversation happening, Carl looks like he's freaking out internally. You know, I can't wait to see what that's all about. Yeah, I mean, look, Kyle was a great friend. He kept his friend employed knowing that Carl was going to a hard time and that Carl really needed this to sort of like give some sort of focus. So like he kept Carl around when Carl probably should have been fired. But now Carl is sober. And so if if if I could do this whole thing of like, you can't hold his
Starting point is 01:08:10 passons against him because he was, you know, he had there was there was an issue in his recovery. So you can hold the presence in against him though, which is that he's not doing his job and he's checked out and he's going off to California without alerting people on his team. So yeah, it's time. He did alert them though. He told them on Monday and left on Thursday. They're all on the same thing. He told Amanda and Kyle I thought,
Starting point is 01:08:33 but he didn't tell his team. He didn't tell like people, you didn't, I don't, I get the sense that he told people on the super high. I don't know that he was supposed to email the entire network of people that you sell to in the entire United States that you're going to be available for three hours on a wedding.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And apparently people were looking for him. They were trying to say, there were meetings that we couldn't get for him. Again, we are going to start arguing about shit we know nothing about because we've only heard about the story. But that's the most fun. You know, I have no idea. And it's work drama, and I hate it. But if we're gonna give Carl shit
Starting point is 01:09:07 for all the accounts he's fucked up, you've also gotta give him credit for all the money he's made being famous and going as a celebrity mixing an appearance fee with selling this alcohol. Because that's not the same as just someone in a regular, regular situation going and selling your booze, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:24 in a liquor store in Charlotte booze, you know, in a liquor store in Charlotte or whatever, you know? Yeah, I don't know. Well, in that case, that's one where I say, well, I don't know the structure of their, of like what his role is supposed to be, because if that was the role that he's, they're supposed to have,
Starting point is 01:09:39 then I don't know why he'd get more money for it. I don't know, so far I'm just, but I'm just trying to be more interesting because this episode was fucking painful. This episode was painful. But the first episode I thought were great. I was like, I love it. This season's so good, but this episode was a little rough.
Starting point is 01:09:52 But that's okay. It's over now, and we have next week to look forward to. Well, I'll be okay. But you know what? Some summer house? A bad summer house is better than no summer house. Okay, great. we'll always take it All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for being here. We will see you tomorrow with an episode of a bull
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