Watch What Crappens - Summer House: Toxic Hannahlinity

Episode Date: April 30, 2021

Time for the first part of Summer House's reunion! Hannah is on the hot seat, Page has a giant bow on her dress, and Lindsay is as activated as she can possibly get. Enjoy! This week's premiu...m bonus is our Below Deck Sailing recap. Find all of our premium bonus episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens**We're doing a live show to celebrate the premiere of RHONY! May 6 at 6PM Pacific 9PM Eastern. Get tickets at https://onlocationlive/watchwhatcrappensOur Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to watch what crap ends at free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chaz and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, but people are going to be happy. Who cares what happens, but there's so much that happens. Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, the podcast for all that crap we love to talk about on your own brother. I'm Ronnie, and that's been over there.
Starting point is 00:00:58 How they're little Benjamin. Hi, how are you? I'm great. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm excited to jump into the weekend. I am bracing. I am bracing for full-scale internet rioting about this summer house reunion. Wow. Wow. Well, congratulations, a Hannah Berner for just, you know, she just, like, why not just dig a giant hole for herself? Burn it down, burn it down.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Burn it all down. You know, it's great. It's great. She really, you know, after a season of the internet hating her, it was finally her chance to come on here and win back the love of the audience and she said, you know, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. So I think she had more of a plan.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I think she really thought her plan to win over the audience was gonna work and it just like backfired horribly and then she didn't know what the fuck to do. She was like, now what do I say? Which is one of the great traditions of a brother reunion is when someone just fails spectacularly, and they just have an epically terrible reunion.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I mean, we haven't seen one as bad as this is, I guess actually, since Kelly Dodd said that she was black on the Orange County one, but I actually thought Hannah started off all right. I thought she was all right, but then the wheels came off about 20 minutes in for me and I was like, oh dear. Oh, she's going down the flames. Oh, God, it's getting worse. She started out okay, because they weren't talking about it until 20 minutes in. I didn't get to the end of the segment until 20. She did everything wrong. and it was so much fun to watch. So before we get started with that, we are doing our Real Housewives of New York live episode
Starting point is 00:02:48 on Elle Compoutor, where you guys can come watch, talk to each other, party with us. It is going to be on May 6th. That is a nighttime. Is it 6 p.m. Pacific time? Non-Pume Eastern. Guy. You can get tickets on location live.com,
Starting point is 00:03:02 slash watch at crap and so we'll just find a link at our website leading up to the show we're doing a top 10 Countdown of the top 10 underrated real housewives of New York cast members We both have our opinions you guys go on Instagram stories on our Instagram stories and vote every day and we will Announce the winner the winners at the live show. Okay, so go to that. Okay, let's get into who our number seven is. Go ahead. Well, why don't you start? My number seven is someone who I thought would actually be a top three. I, because I think
Starting point is 00:03:42 that she's actually very underrated. But then as I was compiling the list, I actually started to feel like the ones, the next six are actually a little bit more underrated. It's sort of weird. Underrated is a weird thing to judge because are we saying these, like as someone who's underrated, someone who made an impact, but their impact was not appreciated or someone who, I don't know, it's just, it's a little hard to judge it, but I'm saying for number seven, Heather Thompson.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Heather Thompson, the reason why she's underrated to me is that she was really good actually at getting into fights. I think she's better at getting into fights than we remember. And I think a lot of times we remember some of the annoying parts of Heather. We remember her going, hello! And her having like a big fake smile. But we often overlook the fact that she really was not afraid to stand her ground. And when people came for her, she was really good at stiffening up and just coming back at them pretty strongly, which I really,
Starting point is 00:04:45 really enjoy it. I think that was a great asset for the show. And I actually think the reason why she might not be higher up is because I think actually people have grown to appreciate that a little bit. And so she might not be as underrated. She may have actually become a little more rated. So I'm, I'm observing my other slots for people who I think generally
Starting point is 00:05:08 The the world at large thinks like oh, they were worthless or something and I in my mind I'm like actually they had more value than you realize and I think that people have actually realized a little bit of Heather's value, which is why she's only at number seven, but she I think is a is a was Surprisingly good. I'm excited to see her on this upcoming season. Although I hear that she only filmed like half of it and then got mad at them and stopped filming right. Did you hear that? Yeah that's the rumor that she was out of there because she got in a fight with somebody. Leah actually oh yeah. So I think when Leah calls her a Karen and all of that stuff which brings me to my point. I agree with Leah. I think Heather is like a total
Starting point is 00:05:44 total wet blanket. I don't even have Heather on my list. I agree with Leah. I think Heather is like a total wet blanket. I don't even have Heather on my list. So that's how I do. Really? Yeah, she's not even on mine at all. Really? So I'm gonna go with Kelly Benzumot. Now, Kelly, basically Kelly's on here
Starting point is 00:05:57 because we had to pick 10. I don't know that Kelly's underrated. So that's why I put her bottom at the list because I think she is still given credit for like being a total wackadoodle. And also she's still giving us content all these years later. You know, she's still going on Instagram
Starting point is 00:06:14 and doing 20 minute videos about like, here's what really happened on Scary Island and then just completely sounds loony tunes and makes everything up and has no like, no feet on the reality ground, which I appreciate, you know, I say that as a compliment. I love when people retire, but still come into the office to see how things are going. It's like, you're really garrred, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So I think that that's kind of where she's at. I think she does get a lot of credit, but, you know, she is underrated for some things. Like we didn't really notice, or I didn't really notice until years later how nice it was to have somebody call Bethany on her bullshit. Like she wasn't right in every Bethany fight, but I'm still on her side now, all these things to say there.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Like, she yeah. I love the early adopter. Like yeah, she is an early adopter of Bethany distaste. Let's put it that way. Yeah. She really sniffed out Bethany's whole thing way earlier. I don't want to say way earlier than everyone else because Ramona did a good job with that too, but Ramona sniffed out a different aspect.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Ramona snipped out the fact that Bethany will always be miserable. She snipped that one out, which is not that hard to sniff out, but Ramona snipped that one out with that epic scene on the Brooklyn Bridge. But what Kelly snipped out was was Bethany who at that time was like the voice of the people and everyone loved Bethany. What Kelly snipped out was that Bethany was actually like a game player, a monster, and was playing games and and was manipulating and she sniffed that out and we all thought Kelly was awful for it and action retrospect.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You know, she was kind of right on the money. Yeah, so my pick for number seven of top 10 underrated real housewives of New York cast members is Kelly Bensonone and Ben chose Heather Bekeatherface. So Heather Thompson. So go over to our Instagram stories today. That vote is up there and tell us who you choose for slot number seven between those two. And we'll use those to tell you at the live show on May 6th.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Okay, let's get into some summer house reunion in an actual reunion set. Or on.'ve made it. Yes. And made it to a proper set. They're not on stools in the clubhouse. They're not on Zoom. So they're all, and they also get, you know, they've really arrived
Starting point is 00:08:35 when they get the pre-reunion montage of them showing up. And everyone's arriving and everyone, people are in here and make up. And some lady asks page Hey, what's the one thing you want to clear up today at the reunion and page is like Hannah's not a bitch That's that's gonna be I don't I don't think page succeeded very well with her cast man there That yeah, no one bought that so Luke and Carl are hugging and looks like, Hey Carl, are you working right now?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Take a day off, dude. And then we see Kyle and Amanda kissing for the cameras, even though they've probably been together all morning. Just got to remind us, there's still super in love guys, okay? Yeah, and then Paige is, we go back to Paige and she goes, oh my God, did you guys know that Hannah's engaged, which was funny. And then Lindsay back to Paige, she goes, oh my god, did you guys know that Hannah's engaged, which was funny.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And then Lindsay's with Danielle, and she goes, she has like a cocktail. And she's like, cheers to bring it, cheers to having fun, cheers to laughter, cheers to drinking, cheers to Chulon, cheers to Inrunda, cheers to Aurel. I wouldn't like to dedicate an advance a chair to the taco contract
Starting point is 00:09:50 Cheers the beach And then so Lindsay's Lindsay's I think and red Lindsay's in yellow and Danielle's and red and Carl walks up He's oh hey you guys look like ketchup and mustard. Oh, be the hot dog? Like, be a long hot dog. You know, cause I've been growing a lot. They got a lot. I'm a Coney Island dog now, cause I've grown a lot. So, just an Oscar Maya weiner. What a big one, cause I've grown.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, I was an Oscar Maya weiner and now I'm a Coney dog. So, then Hannah is looking at herself in the mirror and she's like, you bitch, I don't trust you. She starts laughing. So then we get to the set, which is, you know, okay, they did get a set. So they're moving up in the world. The actual set is disturbing.
Starting point is 00:10:36 There's like a wheelbarrow of flowers behind somebody and then there's a gigantic home goods pineapple. You know, it's like a bunch of decor from home goods, but like incredible shrinking woman style, where it's just gigantic. So I'm not really sure what they're going for with that, but you know, there it is. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It was very, again, it was like very wafer. I say this because I'm just constantly looking at outdoor furniture on wafer. So I was like, Oh, I know that one. That is the Christopher Knight collection. But can I tell you with his got just what you need. Okay, thanks. That's all. Go ahead. Remember when people thought that Wayfair was a Dr. and children? God, I love the internet. They were, they were, they were selling garden tables named like Laura.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And they were like, oh my God, it's a child named Laura. Or it wouldn't even be like a real name. Laura Paul would be like, it would be like, you know, we've got a couch called the soul thing. And they're like, oh my God, it's a girl named soul thing. I'm like, okay. Okay. And she's missing.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So in order to the couch, she's in the box. It's like, that doesn't even make sense. If you were child trafficking, you're going to put the child in a box, send them an UPS. That's not how it works. And how many people accidentally got those children? It's like, oh my god. How many poor kidnap children are standing outside on patios right now, just holding up drinks because the table came wrong and people
Starting point is 00:12:07 Were just too lazy to return it. I'm in customer service like hi, so I'm calling about my retain Outdoor sofa. Yeah, the 84 inch one. So no everything's great. Um, it fits it came with a child though Should I do is there like a do I bring it to a UPS store or what do you do with this child? I've put the sticker back on the child's head and just left it outside. So someone could just drive by, you know, take care of that though. Great. Yeah, you know, you guys that didn't tell me that you didn't have white glove delivery and so you just left the sofa in front of my door and I had to bring it in myself and even worse there was a child in there so Am I just supposed to bring a child inside? Okay, so we start this reunion off with Andy texting you know, cuz that's how he does it and
Starting point is 00:12:57 The lady start coming on he's like hey lady super cute And now it's he's like, ah, welcome to the Summer House reunion. Give me five minutes to look at Carl. Yeah, yeah. Hey Carl, I knew you'd have white pants on. And then this part was my favorite when he goes, I have to congratulate you.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You were recently awarded the hottest male Brava Liberty by the two judgey girls on Instagram. So congrats to Courtney and Mary for getting a big old like a big shout out on a reunion. That is major. That was so cool. That was really cool. And so did Danny Pellegrino actually,
Starting point is 00:13:37 at least in written form, he showed up later did you see his name pop up there? His name popped up? I didn't see him. Yeah, it was the podcast that Hannah accused Carl of being on Adderot snorting Adderot or whatever was Danny Pellegrino. Oh, is it Dan? So when they showed those, yeah, when they showed those headlines or whatever, it was like something although blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:13:56 blah, blah, the Danny Pellegrino podcast. Dan, we need to like, we need to create a scandal trap for we definitely need to do more. Definitely. Yeah, I definitely wrote that down I mean, that's do more. Yeah, let's let's let's trap a Summerhouse cast number to make them say something that like so Luke Tell us what you really think about chopping wood. Hey, look we heard on a podcast on watch or crap ends that you think Chopping wood is for it's for gay people is that true? And if I could if I could go back in time, I
Starting point is 00:14:26 would yeah that's his answer for everything. So man, how's the dog boss during going and I'm asking that nodding my head even though I really don't care and think it's gross. And she's like, well, we have seven dogs now, Andy, we have a mom and Sink's puppies, Kyle. And I hear that they sleep all day because you bore them to death. First time I've heard of puppies that sit still. Wow. Hey, are they peeing all over the house? And Daniel's like, more or less than Kyle.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Hmm. Uh, and Andy goes, good one. Good one. Good one. Someone tell the P.A PA she had a good joke. Okay, but you should get off the set. You're not part of the cast, right? Oh, you are.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Hey. Well, Sierra, welcome to your first. I may have to ask you some questions after 9 PM. I'm not gonna be okay. I love this version of Andy. He, like the, when Andy does, when he does reunions for for the young people shows, he's just such a dick to them and it's just the best.
Starting point is 00:15:31 He's not pretending to respect them. So he's like, Luke, Bob are guesstimate. How much would did you chop? And he's like, oh, you know what? Probably about a chord. That's a wood terminology. That's wood terminology for all of those where- that's wood terminology.
Starting point is 00:15:45 For all of those of you who don't know it. Written a song about it. Um, you know I went out and chopped a chord. And then I was chased by an angry mob. I don't know. You know what I'm working on, Andy? I'm still working on that one. Chopin' some wood, chopin' a a cord, keeps me active and helps me from getting
Starting point is 00:16:08 inactive. No, that's not the right word. I'm still in lyrics class, Andy. And he's like, yeah, well, I see that it's a great workout. Okay. So Danielle, will you be conducting meetings in the reunion? Are you gonna actually talk? This is funny. Oh and paid. How many outfits were in the running before you ended up with a blussy bow? She goes, actually, that's a different thing.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay, this is Minnie Mouse ear and boobs. Okay, yeah, thanks. And when you ask how many outfits, she goes, five. Yeah. Six, if you want to separate them out from their sats And we've got sandwiches ready for Big Bird. Okay, so I call you old bird are you Big Bird or old bird which do you prefer Lindsay? I
Starting point is 00:16:58 Am bird is going to get pregnant in the next 30 minutes or my time is on air me to get pregnant in the next 30 minutes or my time is up, Amy. Hi Hannah, congratulations on your engagement to Dez. I was shocked that Andy didn't say something like, did you guys have sex in the backstage area? Yeah. Paige, do you approve of the ring? And she's like, love it. She actually originally wanted a pearl necklace.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And everyone just stays quiet in stairs that her like, no one's gonna make the pearl necklace joke. Okay, fine. Hey, has he come on your chest yet? Okay, great. Well, due to the pandemic, this season of summer house was completely turned on its head. Literally, the kitchen was upstairs, the bedrooms were downstairs. What a season! If you didn't have therapists beforehand, you are gonna have them now! And looks like- Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- If I could turn back time. Oh, and if I could turn back time, I would definitely get a therapist. Then we'd just get a clip of them being stuck in the house and page going, I haven't pooped since I've been here. I don't like you. So now we get into the questions. Jenny from Ohio asks, did anyone get caught with something unprofessional in the back of
Starting point is 00:18:27 our work Zoom call? And Danielle is like, well, it's funny because Lindsay has like truly come into my room in a red bikini and like my team is just like all male developers. And I'm like, Lindsay, please. All right, that story was just about as boring as I expected. I didn't want to ask else can someone top that please We are still haven't been handed my coffee so Can we get rid of this girl?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Hey, uh, thank you for for coming on we are filming so I will look at the receipts from accounting later Danielle Thank you. You can get out the stage Well, Andy I've walked my Kyle having a meeting on zoom without pants and then I was like Uh, I've definitely seen Amanda walk by with a long shirt on and I don't think that panties on Not gonna lie. I'm growing. I'm growing now. I know since I'm not gonna lie That makes a big on those reunion. There's a lot of not gonna lies and literally Lot of literally be real be real, be real. So I was watching this one reunion where someone was saying, be honest and I thought, what's
Starting point is 00:19:29 my take on that? And I said, be real. So be real. I fully grown. So, Zero, was it hard to return to nursing? And she's like, um, yeah, I mean, I guess it kind of was, but nobody really knows who I am because I have a mask on and then like my hair is up so Oh, I guess you're shining personality just really didn't come through did it, huh? Oh, that's too bad. Hey
Starting point is 00:19:54 Hey, we've been using it nurses is the focus group so you're fired. Okay Hey page and Hannah Did either of you guys get bed sores during filming because every time you're on camera, you're in bed. And Hannah's like, I think working horizontally is underrated and I get the most brain power when I'm relaxed. Well, Theresa, do you guys will not be dating either one of you? That's very sure.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm so sleep. Let's talk about a big issue. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. excited that Hannah was to see Luke after all they dated, but I guess that kind of depends on who you ask and how you define dating and if sex was a factor and how you define sex and how naked Luke was and if anyone took pictures and they're
Starting point is 00:20:54 planning to send them to me because I am the boss and I would like to see them. Alright let's get into it. So then we see this Hannah and Luke montage and Hannah going we talked like every day in the winter and like I have feelings for him and I know he has feelings for me and we still have not had sex but you know, we have nowhere else to go but my vagina. Just tweeted that, just tweeted that right now.
Starting point is 00:21:18 No where else to go. So Hannah, where did you think or hope it was really going when he came into the house? So she says that basically, she's like, well, I asked him, you know, in March, I asked him if we were just friends and he verbatim said, I don't do labels. So I'm like, cool. Okay, so we're stuck in a house together. We're gonna have some fun. And Luke though, he goes, well, actually, I remember exactly where we were because I was sitting by the lake and it was March and there was a chipmunk. There was my little chipmunk friends and I scratched a little head and then he started surfing
Starting point is 00:21:51 in a pool and then he started singing a song and I was like, you go on tour with your two other friends' chipmunks and then I waved, goodbye to them and they went off on tour and I then she called me and I was like, oh man, so glad you called, okay. I said we're better off his friends, okay? We're better off his friends. And her exact response was, well, it's a good thing we never slept together because it would have made it that much harder.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Wow. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm that much harder now. Thanks, Luke. So those are two totally different answers from each other. And Hannah goes, um, well, if if you told me that especially the part about the Squirrel like I wouldn't have come into the house like I'm about to fucking dude and
Starting point is 00:22:31 Kyle goes yeah, but Anna come on everyone in the house knows that you wanted more from him like it's so apparent okay And Paige goes well Hannah like Luke, but Luke very much like, much like I'm sure the internet very much loves this giant bow. That's not a pussy though, I'm a jazzist. Like and subscribe. Luke, did you like Hannah? And he's like, well, okay, look, the first summer in the house, there are ways that I acted towards Hannah
Starting point is 00:22:59 that might make her think that she likes me. Okay, so what kind of answer is that? Okay, now first of all, I kind of like it because it's admitting, it's like, okay, like I was kind of flirting with her. So yes, I guess it's my fault that she liked me, but also not admitting any part at all. You know what, when I came on her face the first time, you know, maybe that gave her the wrong impression Andy. Okay, so I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And Andy just goes, you mean like going down here for three hours? Just gets right to it, right? And Luke says, right. Right. Right. Yeah, that was, yeah, if I could go back in time, you know, I mean, share really got it right, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So then Cameron, Cameron from at Los Angeles says, Hannah said that she gave you a blowjob twice. I mean, share really got it right, you know? So then Cameron from at Los Angeles says, Hannah said that she gave you a blowjob twice. Some might say that's more intimate than sex. So why stop there and not go all the way? Hashtag America wants to know. So Luke is like, well, you know, we were intimate to an extent and if I could go back now, I wouldn't do it
Starting point is 00:24:03 because it obviously affected her when I went down when I spent an entire summer Saying how much I really would like her then went down on her and then called her all the time afterwards and called her at midnight and stuff and I guess that just sort of sent the wrong signal, you know, it's amazing what Seaman can do to really confuse the situation Am I right? Am I right? And Hannah's like, look me having sucks with a guy doesn't mean like I'm gonna fall okay, but like a guy calling you all the time that messes with your emotions a lot, you know? Like I mean I fucked guys and I've never fucked people from a call center, but I've been more in love with people asking me where my capital one payment is.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I'm just saying that. That's my point. I hope everybody gets it. And the girls are rolling their eyes like what are you talking about? Yeah, I mean I feel like it makes sense at this point. I do I think it makes sense that there was like she was like she was into him You know so So yeah, I mean we get that she was into him No one's disputing that. Yeah, it was out into how into her was he ever, you know, and so
Starting point is 00:25:03 was out into her, was he ever, you know? And so Hannah, the girls roll their eyes, but of course, Sierra's like, I agree with that. That's the truth. And Paige is like, I agree. So then we get to, then Danielle is like, well, you know, the thing is like the timeline of it all because you came into the summer like, oh, there's still a chance,
Starting point is 00:25:20 but then you had been dating somebody that old time. So. And, and which again, that's, you know, I've said it before, I think that's okay. So Hannah's like, well, when a guy doesn't like me, I've never had him call me like three times a day, and Lindsey goes, oh, come on, Hannah! And Hannah's like, he was calling me three times a day! You were dating someone else! You were fucking someone else. Okay, another guy's dick was in here, vagina. Baja, na.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Baja, na. Lindsay is just ready. Lindsay is just ready to go and crowd just goes, wow. And Amanda's like, well, look, Hannah, I got no judgment here. Okay. And your father, not me.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And he was like, he gives up. She can play the field if she wants to. And look, it's like, oh, no, because you were throwing me under the bus. Mm-hmm. You know, which is kind of the crux of this issue, right? Like Hannah was pretending that she and Luke were so in love or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Meanwhile, she'd been fucking all these people. Wasn't that serious either? Yeah, my whole issue has always really just been not about the Hannah throwing Luke under the bus. I feel like that's actually a separate issue. My issue is just that Luke, I feel like Luke and Hannah were both like, they both had side pieces essentially. And I just feel like they both were kind of shady about it, and they weren't upfront about it. And I just feel like people just were, they're just like so angry at Hannah right now.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And I'm like, yeah, but like, I just feel like the anger towards that is like a little outsized to what it really, to really the situation of that specific, you know, infraction. So, and he's like, well, listen, I have zero judgment about you having sex with this guy before you went in the house. I asked this only to understand. Did you view it as I got laid and it was fun or did you view it as it might be something more?
Starting point is 00:27:24 And she's like, well, I just hadn't had physical interaction with the dude in a long time. So it felt good to have sex. And he's like, okay. So, Luke, you just felt it was hypocritical the way it was positioned. And he goes, yeah, 100 Andy, 100. You know, I'm going to tell you the same thing I told the duck. I saw ice skating the same day I told told Hannah I just wanted to be friends.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You know what? You're 100% right duck, okay? And you're a great skater. Well thanks I think, okay. Now Paige, did you think that they were in a relationship? And Paige is like, well, I mean, it was definitely a guy she talked to, you know, like when we would be doing giggly squad, she had to go because like, like Luke was calling. Right. And Kyle is like, well, I was just confused because like, look, I'm not trying to stir the pot, but at the house, the only time I saw a Hannah face time me guy, it was a different guy from Des. And so Hannah was like, well, yeah, I was dating around from the beginning, you know, I was talking to a lot of guys. I was actually talking to three guys. And then look as like, but so then,
Starting point is 00:28:23 why did you treat me the way you did? And Lindsay is like, you're crying about Luke. Well, Luke was leading you on. And so then, so this is where to me. Now things start to fall apart for Hannah for the rest of the episode because she goes into denial about things, like she about things that she said and did. And she's like, I never said the words leading me on. I never said that. I never said that. And this is just now it all starts to go way downhill. Yeah, you say leading on.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I say lying or fucking face off, okay? She just lies about everything. And then they keep calling her. And then she just keeps lying. It's the weirdest thing. So she's like, so you're saying, you were saying liquid leading you on. She's like, I never said leading on.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I never said leading on. And she's like, um, you were saying liquid leading you on she's like I never said leading on I never said leading on and she's like Um you were crying and Hannah goes oh Watching the same show right and she goes I think there's like like the wrong perception because like everyone kept saying in their Interviews like oh had his own love with, like she's so in love with Luke. And Danielle goes, I mean, you were saying that in your interviews too. So yeah. And he was like, you know what, he was someone I was very close to. And when I came into this house, I learned all the stuff that's here.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I was hurt, you know? I was just, I was, I was, I was excited to hang out with a guy I've been talking to, you know, and, you know, I was dating around and I was I was excited to hang out with the guy I've been talking to you know and you know I was hitting around and I was single you know and so then Andy goes yeah But you realize how that is not what you portrayed on the show you seem Boraline in love and obsessive kind of a crazy person kind of cuckoo face bunkers silly person put out the pasture You know I'm saying Hannah's like page with lion love with Luke and page just cuz I'm I think saying? And Hannah's like, Paige was lying up with Luke and Paige just goes,
Starting point is 00:30:05 I think we're over this. She's just, yeah, we're done. Paige just shut down the whole topic. I was like, I'm kind of impressed by that. Yeah, I mean, you can say what you want about these people, but that's a pretty good friend. She's like, back off for a union host, okay. So it goes, okay, we're moving on.
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Starting point is 00:31:16 you'll feel less alone. So if you like to laugh with us as we talk about the hardest job in the world, listen to, I love my kid, but wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So uh, hey, Luke's new attitude towards Hannah wasn't the only surprise. So how here's my pressing question. How is Sierra so immaculate and perfect in every way possible, but as the messiest bet in bedroom ever did you even unpack? I mean this is coming from someone who says we have a lot to unpack here. Did you unpack here?
Starting point is 00:31:53 And yeah, they have a talk about her bed and how especially move your camera away from or move your computer away from the camera like come on And he's like Hannah your reaction Do you think your reaction with Sierra came in the house was maybe an over correction? And Sarah's like, look, I know everyone made fun of how weird Hannah acted around to me. And maybe, you know, like a, you know, like a adopted puppy finally getting let into a house or, you know, you know, a person in the desert finally getting water. I mean, I know people thought it seemed weird, but it didn't feel weird to me.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So. And Andy goes, well, it looked weird. And so Anna says, basically, yeah, it was corny. Like I overdid it, but it was better than being rude to her or giving her the cold shoulder. Yeah. So then, Carl, you said that Sierra was the hottest girl to ever walk into the house. Uh, what was it about Sierra that made you
Starting point is 00:32:52 have that reaction? So Carl, of course, gives such a Carl answer because, well, I have to say our smile. She got beautiful smile. And I worked the dental industry for a while. Yeah. Kind of brought a lot since then. I can't remember. I can't say a good smile. Just me, just me, sweet Carl. Little, little can sort of recognize a good smile. Just me just me sweet Carl little little sweet Carl Just loves a girl smile. So it's great by the way who does Sierra think was the cutest Carl of course So then they show page looking like trying to smile but being like oh my god I should not have sworn above on my boobs like I'm so mad right now So then he's like pay you told, you had sex with Luke in mind,
Starting point is 00:33:25 and you said that he had a very creative mind. Oh no, in Minnesota, sorry. It said he had a very creative mind, and Kyle goes, what was it like a dick in the box? I love it, that's Kyle's like, I go to for creativity. JT bro, JT.
Starting point is 00:33:42 All right, he's the man. Well, you know, I wouldn't say I was creative, but I will say that before we had sex, I did steal a line from my chipmunk friends and I said, watch out, because here I come, it was a great night. So then, then, uh, CRS tells us that she was abstinent after the second Minnesota trip uh, because it was purposeless sex and they were both rebounding off of each other and she just needed solitude afterwards and Andy goes, wow! if I had a fling with a woman who caused her to leave the life of abstinence, I might be a masculated or wondering what I did wrong, you know? What did you do Luke? You want me to call up Martin McFly's? he can get in that time machine again. He's like, well, you know, like the great share once saying, if you could go back
Starting point is 00:34:31 in time, all right, you're still wrong. Okay, you just just don't maybe you should like go from music or something. All right, look, you're not winning the lyrics game. Well, you know, it takes, you know, look, it's like, I, it's like I told that duck when it was learning hockey. I said it takes a lot of discipline, okay? You can be a duck here on this frozen river or you can be a mighty duck, you know, discipline yourself. And I give a respect for that and goes, okay, well, you know, she's saying your time together was rebound time. It's here. It's like, well, look, we did have a good time in Minnesota, okay?
Starting point is 00:35:04 It's just, we weren't in that place emotionally and truthfully, after the second trip, I got ghosted by him and then he blocked me from all social media. So, oh, just that. So Luke goes, yeah, can't deny it. Well, you know, we were rebounding, oh, it's like a basketball game.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And Carl says that up to the side. And then Luke is like, you know, I had just gotten back from my ex-girlfriend and I didn't think it was healthy for us to talk. You know, I talked, I consulted the ducks and they said, he got a blacker, got a blacker dude. I was like, well, you know, the ducks made a good point. So that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:35:37 So why not explain that to her? And he goes, well, I did explain it after, you know, and they're, oh, laughter, yeah. So, and he goes, you know, did explain it after, you know. And they're, oh, laughter, yeah. So, and he goes, you know, if I could go back in time and do it differently, I would, and he goes, oh, I bet. So, a lot of things on my checklist. When I get in that time machine, I got a lot of things to do, you know. So, so, maybe a while.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Maybe a nice skate, you know, that's why. Maybe not ghost, Sierra, that's another one. Yeah. So Luke is, so we're Luke and Sierra now. It's like, well, you know, I, you know, this summer I was pretty frustrated and, you know, we're cordial, but I'm pretty indifferent to our friendship and, you know, I just wish for nothing but the best. Lindsay, Lindsay she's like I hate when guys
Starting point is 00:36:28 Stupid no, you don't you don't want to do the best you just wish her a decent life. That's all Yeah, I hate when people say that and they all start cracking up and girl just goes so bizarre And then we got a commercial so like Sierra. We have a lot to run back. Don't go anywhere So when we come back, we have a lot to run back. Don't go anywhere. So when we come back, Luke is having someone fix his hair or something in the back, is like, can you see this? I don't want to see the white. I don't want to see the white. And Andy goes, big Luke.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Hey, big Luke. Let's see the hair, Luke. So he turns around and shows him. And Paige goes, Andy, are you like not a fan of bamboons? Or what? He's like, nope, not a fan, making he turns around and shows him. And Paige goes, um, Andy, are you, like, not a fan of Bambons? Or what? He's like, nope, not a fan, making sure it's gone. Okay. All right, we're back.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Speaking of Mad Bamb's Lindsay dated one for about a year, hey, Lindsay not only brought her, her boyfriend Stravy to the house, but she also brought a very intense relationship timeline. But while she was laser focused on engagement, and marriage, and babies, Stravys focus was on sandwiches and was eating away at her bruvia blan. So then we get the Lindsay. I am a list and it's a guideline. Week one baby, week two, a baby, a week three again and get it. Week four sandwich week five baby number two.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Um, so he's like Lindsay, uh, Jenny from Ghibletville wants to know you said you couldn't make it longer than 17 days, um, in real life. So why would you think it would work in the summer house? Well, you know, I thought we'd be on like a big mansion and there'd be space in the house. Well, you know, I thought we'd be on like a big mansion and to be space and yard and friends like again the way but turns out that material things don't solve foundational issues in a relationship. Okay. Then you know, what was your reaction? And she's like, yeah, I need this wasn't going to go well. Okay, it's a big deal to bring a guy into this house who
Starting point is 00:38:23 doesn't know how to cater. So, that's pretty much my opinion, and I was right. And Kyle's like, yeah, I mean, when Lindsey commits, I mean, it's a head first off. We start with Carl, we start off with Stravy, we start off with our Quiz Noise Order. I mean, if she wants a sandwich, she wants a sandwich. Did you feel bad how you treated Steven at your birthday?
Starting point is 00:38:43 And she goes, I mean, I'll let her. I could have been an add a better reaction, but at the same time, like my best friend's brother just passed away. And so I was feeling the same emotions as my best friend's brother just passed away. And not once did my boyfriend a check on me to see how I was feeling about someone else's brother die until I surprised it was all about him. It's a really unique reaction to that like what? What?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Check in with me to see how I'm feeling while I'm checking on someone else like truly making Carl's grief about her. So, and he's like, well, listen, I had to say, I admire your timeline because you know what you want and you have a good handwriting, okay? How much was Steven aware of with this timeline? And she's like, well, I showed it to him in February and his reaction was, I agree, although admittedly, I did tell him it was just our postmates order for dinner and you didn't really look at it at all, but he still said he agreed. Well, Stacey says, Hannah, you're following the timeline better than Lindsay.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And it just shows Lindsay's face furious because of course, Hannah is following this timeline, right? So you have advice for Lindsay, okay, the answer here is no, of course, you know, good luck to Lindsay. This is totally answer here is no, of course, you know, good luck to Lindsay. This is totally a relationship. Have nothing to do with each other. So Hannah totally takes the wrong road. She's got you know what, I've always looked up to Lindsay is a strong woman who's like way older than me and looks funny and yellow. You know, and I just want to say Lindsay, who cares? I mean, so you've
Starting point is 00:40:22 got, you know, the raisin Band singing out of your vagina right now, set of overuse, you know what? They just need a bowl of cereal to sing around. Okay, so give them that and don't worry about it because you should never let your light dim for some man. Okay, never, I mean, not that your lights even, you've got, okay, you've got no light around you. Light a candle and wait for, or don't wait for a man.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Who knows if the man's gonna come? Good luck, good luck is what I mean. What I'm trying to say is that Lindsay comes from a time period when we had filament in our light bulbs before they were converted to green light bulbs. And she shouldn't have to dim those. Just as we shouldn't have to dim ours, we actually can't. ours with the light bulbs these days are not dimmable. So I just you know
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm sure the right man will walk into a nursing room nursing home and They can wheel around together I believe in heaven, you know, maybe you'll find your man there so good luck and Lindsay is just so infuriated that she has to sit there and take advice from Hannah She's so mad. So funny. It's so funny. So Amanda from Brattleboro, Vermont, right off that 91 freeway, what's up?
Starting point is 00:41:32 You got mad at Stravy when he was working, but Lindsay, don't you want a man with a job? And she's like, well, I don't believe he was working. I think that was his version of running away. And Hannah goes, he was playing Minecraft, I saw it. Just kidding. But I actually was like, And Hannah goes, he was playing Minecraft. I saw it just kidding. But I actually was like, I actually think that he was playing Minecraft.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Which of course it would be so, Steve. I'm a busy with surprise me. I mean, I'm late about things all the time to sit home and play Mario. I'm like, I'm working. So like, Ronnie, how many housewives shows are on in one week? Okay, according to me, I'm working from like seven in the morning until two in the morning Nine days a week. Yeah, this could be my life now now that I'm vaccinated and people want to hang out again
Starting point is 00:42:14 I'm like, oh, sorry real housewives of Toledo was on and we have to recap it. So yeah, they air it at 1 a.m It's so strange So Danielle says that Lindsey needs someone who's confident and doesn't care how successful she is and who's successful in their own right. And she thinks that Lindsey was baited and switched by Steven because he pretend to be this chill guy last season. And then this season turns out he wasn't chill.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I think that he wasn't pretending to be a chill guy. I think he was just showing a blatant lack of personality that everyone just decided to look past. And in this season, they realize that that was actually, yeah, he has no personality. Well, also, you know, you say he was chill last year. After a year with Lindsay, how would you be? That's true. And now, look, he was totally lying.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I was like, no, he's no longer a chill person because he's been with Lindsay for more than five minutes. Who would be a chill person? And Lindsay does the whole, you know, you order something on Amazon and you got something different. Hannah's like, um, nice try to mean. Okay, old lady, nice try. And then Hannah Puss. It's like when you order something, relationship like when you order something on Amazon and then you have to go to the So then um Sierra So hey Sierra did you gain insight from watching all these terrible relationships around you and Sierra is like
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah, I got a good handle on what I'm willing to accept or not accept That's it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like great. Yeah, okay And she's like yeah, you know? I need someone who's like emotionally available and like mature. Oh, please, you're dating Austin from Southern Charm. Please don't put this. And also like, I'm sick of hearing that. Hi, yeah, Andy, I've realized that what I wanna date
Starting point is 00:43:56 is someone who's emotionally unavailable in the mature. That's what I've realized. I think of course you want someone emotionally available in the mature. Like that's, this is not groundbreaking news for anyone in the history of anyone. Ha, ha, ha, ha. So then we go to break and we come back and he's like, well, there was a bet amongst the girls on how long
Starting point is 00:44:13 Stephen would last in the house. And how it's like, don't bring it up because I don't wanna have to pay, I lost the bet. And then we see the clip of the girls betting. And it was pretty funny, I forgot they did that. And hey, did anyone else make a bet? Oh, and yeah, I did in my head. I had a head bet.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Oh, I won for myself. Yeah, I've grown a lot. Yeah. I like when Lindsay says things that make her, she thinks she sounds like really funny and cool and smart, but she just sounds like a total moron. And he goes, so Lindsay, you said that you went off birth control. Just, I'm, no, I was never on a birth control. Okay. I'm already too hormonal. Are you going to get the Vax? No, I'm not going to get
Starting point is 00:44:57 the Vax because I already worked too hard as it is. Well, that has literally nothing to do with that getting vaccinated. So they talk about the pull-out method and the pull-in prey or the spray and prey or the pull-in prey spray or the spray prey prey and they all crack up. So then summer after summer, we can count on a man than coyote for arguments, but this time always always calls deep love for mullets. Still trying to beat that old dead horse, the mullet joke. Yeah. So yeah, they're basically everyone saying how Kyle and Amanda have been never been in
Starting point is 00:45:37 a better place. And you know, and Kyle was happy that their friends could see that they were in a better place. And Andy is like, well, that practice wedding that just sort of make you feel like you wanted a lope. And Carl was like, you know, I actually felt like I was murdering them. You look great by the way, Andy. You look great. Thanks, Carl. Thanks. So what about this tendency that Kyle has to just get wasted and then getting to fights?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Do you think that that's troubling because someone named Dan from Delucu, Minnesota wants to know. And Amanda's like, um, well, you know, like when I met Kyle, I like really loved how much funny I had and like how much he drank and like, yeah, like people and you know, peed on things. So like, you know, that's an attribute that people really enjoy about him. Like, oh, God, oh no, no, no. This is in 10 years. This is like, he's an alcoholic. Like, we know, we know, we have televisions.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And then Lindsay is like, no, I don't think that Kyle had a lot of anger this summer. I mean, it really only came out in that boys fight. And that's pretty much it. So first of all, I'm laughing because we know that that's not just it, but B I like that he's getting padded on the back for only having He has less anger this summer Like that's a consistent thing that he has all this like latent anger that comes out when he gets wasted And Hannah's you Hannah's annoyed,
Starting point is 00:47:06 like she gives like a kind of a laugh. And Danielle is like, well, it also happened with Hannah. I mean, look, when there's something unresolved, it comes out when he's drinking. And kind of goes, yeah, but I shoulder everyone's problems. You know, so I hear everybody's problems and they stress me out. And then I just break the ice
Starting point is 00:47:23 and getting everything out on the table. So right now I'm like, in my mind, I'm watching this and I'm thinking myself, this is about to just go downhill so badly. This is where it's all gonna go really downhill. I'm sure enough. Hannah, you've been the most vocal about colonemann and his relationship issues.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Do you see a difference? I just want to say oh, I just want to say any that I've not been vocal at all about the relationship And you know that we've recorded these summers right? And if you watch it back you can see I've been nothing but supportive and think that you talked to her in the kindest possible way And I can't wait to go to your wedding She's like well, I never said to leave and Carlos, you literally told her to leave me. And she's like, oh, I'm supportive. Hey, Amanda, did I ever say leave, Amanda? And Amanda's like, well, you never said the words you should leave. And then she goes, yeah, it was like, so many words. It's like
Starting point is 00:48:24 penis in a vagina, you know? So this is where Hannah falls into that trap where she starts saying things like I never said that. I never did that because she's relying on, you know, like strict interpretations of these answers of like, well, I didn't actually see those words and that has never worked at a reunion and just watching her step into that trap was hilarious and full of shodden Freud. I was like, oh, this is gonna be so bad for her. So then, so Danielle is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:55 because Hannah says, I was there for her all summer long. Danielle's like, I think that's kind of a stretch. No, all this summer, I was saying, damn, they seem really good. They're in a good place. I was like, what? Yeah, I was trying to laugh some her face. So then we get to the trash fight
Starting point is 00:49:16 and we see clips of it again where, because like listen Hannah, you know, like you say you're gonna do the trash and then you don't do the trash. She's like, oh my God, he's yelling at me. He's yelling at me. When she was not yelling at you, you started yelling at him. And then I'm at it through a drink at you.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And then Kyle started yelling at you. Like Kyle does yell, but you started it. So then she's like, yeah. And then when you told me I'm not holding my weight, I was like shook. And then like, if he curses me, I'm gonna like tell him to stop. And that's what my statement. And she starts to try to cry to get out of it, which is totally fake, there's no tears.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And it's also just ridiculous. And we all know what you're doing girl, this is Bravo. Like, did you not do your homework? You're on another Bravo so talking about every Bravo so that's on for Christ's sake. I can't believe she's pulling this. But at the same time, it's exactly what you do have to pull on a Bravo show, right?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Like, I love how dramatic she was when she said, if he turns to me and curses at me, I'm gonna tell him to stop. I'm like, him to stop. I'm like, what is this dramatic reading? You know, what is this, you know, lower-line reading of the trash argument, you know? So Amanda's like, well, why are you guys like, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:38 like, like, why is it that like, it's like not okay for him to speak to you that way, but then when I try to sit down and talk with you Kyle to clear the air, it's like not okay for him to speak to you that way, but then when I try to sit down and talk with you Kyle to clear the air, it's like, okay, for you to yell at me Kyle. And yeah, she's saying like, why is it okay for guys not like, it's okay for you to yell at guys or yell at me like you can yell at anybody, but if a guy yells, then you get mad, right? And she said, well, why are the guys not allowed to speak to you that way?
Starting point is 00:51:03 When you speak to me, the way you spoke to me and Hannah goes, oh, because you threw a drink at me and I was very upset. She's, you know, why I'm throwing a drink at you? Yeah, and it's like you called her a doormat, which I'm very sorry for. It's like, well, that's fine. That's great that you're sorry for her, but then like that, but you should understand why she threw the drink at you, which is this is like a common issue on the real life. Right, she doesn't answer the question, right? So Amanda tries again. She's like, well, but you can yell at me. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And no one else can raise their voice. And Hannah's just like, I'm so sorry, which isn't the point. So Andy goes, good point, Amanda. And Hannah's like, well, look, Luke gave me great advice. And Lindsay just rolled her eyes and she tells me, oh, so look, your friends again. Yeah. And she said, his advice was, you know what,
Starting point is 00:51:53 when you see a duck who's trying to ice skate, just support him and tell him you know Amelia Westevez, even if you don't. And also, you know, if Kyle yells at you, just stay calm. Right. And which, by the way, is hilarious advice, because it's just so Also, if Kyle yells at you, just stay calm. Right. And which, by the way, is hilarious advice, because it's just so basic. Like, if someone yells at you, stay calm.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Like, wow, that is some ground breaking advice. So then Hannah is like, Dolly Hotdish over there. Hotdish. So it's funny, because Kyle yelled at Luke for like five seconds, and he almost beat the shoot up of everyone. So I think people have to understand, like, like I do yell and I do take full responsibility. And they're like no you haven't taken any responsibility.
Starting point is 00:52:31 That's what I'm trying to do right now. I don't with this all summer log. So then because cause like you haven't taken any responsibility. So that has her melodramatic moment where she goes I don't with this all summer. So it's really triggering what he also be. And she just has a big old ugly cry. It's just so funny because like all he said was, you have a taking responsibility and she is sobbing now. And everyone is just rolling their eyes. It's triggering a man yelling at me. Oh. And Luke goes, oh my god, you bring it on yourself, Hannah. And then she's like, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So now you're faking your tears, I like you faked your apology, Neckel. And Carl goes, acting school is now in session. And Sarah's like, just stop you guys, just stop. And then Hannah's still trying to fake cry. And she's like, I really, I just like, don't get, I don't have the hatred they thought I did for them. So like, I was really confused when he came at me for like talking about their relationship because I've always said like I really want the best for you guys really
Starting point is 00:53:32 really and So page you know you have no problem talking about like well, you know your opinions on everyone But you never seem to tell Hannah when she's wrong. Why is that? She goes, well, I'm her friend, specifically her very very stosh friend who can make something that looks like a set but it's not a set at all and I'm not her mom. Okay, that's not my place to tell her, hey, you're wrong, you're wrong because guess what? I tried to do that last summer about Luke and you saw how that worked out. So I'm just gonna say quiet this summer and watch the internet just hate her and I'll be here looking pretty. Yeah, and Annie's like, well Hannah brought up some daddy issues with Kyle twice.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And she goes, well, y'all, because you reminded me of my dad, oh yeah, then they show the clip of her going, you know what, Kyle, like when you yell at me, it reminds me of my dad. And he goes, wow, I remind you of your dad. And she's actually, she's not talking about my mother. Never mind, I'll never talk about my father. I was a little upset because I really wanted that specific moment to be put under the microscope. Like I that was such a crazy moment. Like why did Andy not ask her, hey you realize that he wasn't talking shit about your dad, right? Like that wasn't fully, I was really,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I needed some closure on that. But basically, he's like, so what's the line between toxic masculinity and individual man and women fighting? Um, we're all equals, and we can get into fights as a man, and a woman, like, I'm equally a woman, and she, they're equally a man, and I can get into fights about them,
Starting point is 00:55:04 about sandwiches equally There's no such thing as toxic sandwiched linear, alright? And cause like yeah, well, you know what we've like we've literally gotten into toxic fights me and Lindsay And you've never used that card on me and how it goes oh, it's not a card It's like an individual thing and I really like this because I totally agreed with this conversation. No, toxic masculinity, it's not just some card that people use, you know, it's like a real thing that people have to deal with and it sucks, okay. But Kyle, what Kyle brings up here is perfect because he's like, you know what, she just uses buzzwords to win a fight, you know, it's like
Starting point is 00:55:43 and he doesn't say this. Now I'm saying this. And that's kind of been my problem with her the whole time. It's like, you're not winning this argument. Oh, you're coming from my dad. How dare you, coming from my family. You know what, you didn't get the man you liked.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Oh my God, he's totally disrespecting me. And he's just, you know, being a misogynist. It's, you know, she uses these words. And Kyle says she uses buzzwords to make men look bad. And I don't know that that's it, but I think she uses them to win a fight, you know. It's like, if I put myself in the victim situation, then you can't argue with me anymore, right? Because you're telling me someone who's being misogynistic and patronizing and belittling and all of this other stuff, you're telling me that as a woman, it's like don't use that whole movement
Starting point is 00:56:27 because that's not fair to the other woman, the other woman that are actually suffering through real shit, Hannah, you know, to just be like, oh, this is anti-woman because you can't win a fight. It's not cool. Yeah, I think there's, I think probably there's somewhere in the middle there, you know, I think that they're, I'm actually trying to remember where,
Starting point is 00:56:49 I'm not trying to pull a hand at here, but I'm actually generally asking in the fights that they had where, it's not from the father thing, the father thing was absolutely ridiculous, but parts were shooting, the British was playing like saying things like misogyny and patronizing and blittling. I mean, I don't feel like she does it to win an argument, but yeah, I mean, but maybe she doesn't realize her role and,
Starting point is 00:57:14 you know, she may feel those things, but she also doesn't realize what her roles and things perhaps. I don't know, then Kyle, I don't know, it felt a little bit, I don't think it's like one or the other, I think it's actually kind of like a confusing mix of all those things. And I honestly don't have the brain space to try and dissect it because I would have to like, because there's such weighty things, I don't want to just like be like, oh well, no, like there was no misogyny or, oh there was misogyny if I don't like little.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I remember the actual summer house. So I'm not going to say there's no misogyny. I mean, it's fucking summer house. And that's not what I'm saying. I just think one of my pet peeves I think right now is people are standing up to a lot that needs to be stood up to. And so I think that that's very important. And so when Hannah, you know, the whole thing with Luke happened,
Starting point is 00:57:59 it really made me crazy because you're making this guy look like he's just using you for sex. He's doing all this horrible CAD stuff to you, It really made me crazy because you're making this guy look like he's just using you for sex. He's doing all this horrible CAD stuff to you, which I think Luke made a huge mistake. Always saying, I don't want anything. I just want to be friends, so let's bone. And then you think that that's going to excuse any of you. We've already talked about all that fuck boy behavior many, many times.
Starting point is 00:58:21 So Luke fucked up that way. But then Hannah had to turn it around and start sobbing and act like Luke really, you know, did her wrong and was like, you know, disrespecting women and all that. I think it just hurts the movement of people fighting against behavior where they're really, you know, put through the ringer. I mean, that's just how I see it. And it put in a simpler way, if she can't win, she makes herself the victim. Like, you know, okay. In a simpler way, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I'm talking too much, but that's all I'm trying to say. It's like, you can't want to fight, so you make it like, oh, you're just a misogynist. Where? Like, come on. Yeah, I mean, I'm remembering now, I think the big thing was that she was saying, like, this is like, she was saying,
Starting point is 00:59:07 look at the way Luke talks to women. And I remember, that felt like it was, that felt like it was from what we could see. It seemed like that was, that seemed a bit, a bit, much. One anyway, so Kyle's like, well, she uses buzzwords, you know, she says misogynist and patronizing and belittling and like she can't even have a spawn night with the girls without saying toxic man.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And Daniel's like, it's true. And then Andy's like, what's true? And she's like, she always says that every man's toxic, you know, if she, she instigates things and then when they get mad, she says that that they're talks they have toxic masculinity, you know, and she says, you know Hannah, you're the most toxic person in this house. Sorry, but it's you who's toxic and Luke goes, thank you Right, I think that actually has been the big issue that a lot of people have had with Hannah Not so much about the oh she's she's saying massage and you're whatever, but that she You know is instigating things and then like you're whatever, but that she, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:05 is instigating things. And then like you said, like, you know, then she instigates things. And then there's craziness. Then she's like, oh, then she's like crying about it. And people really have been really annoyed about that. And as we can see here, the entire cast feels that way too, you know, which is interesting because that they're the ones who actually lived through it, right? They're not the ones that are just, they're not the rest of us just watching through entertainment. So you would think, so you kind of would think that Hannah would be ready for this, because again, the internet has just been saying this for weeks and weeks and weeks,
Starting point is 01:00:36 and you would think that she would sort of be ready and be like, I was in a bad place. You know, it's just say all that stuff, I was in a bad place. I didn't realize my role, but instead she was like, I was in a bad place. You know, it's just say all that stuff, I thought I was in a bad place. I didn't realize like my role, but instead she's like, what have I done to you? What have I done to you? Which is like, never gonna win. Never gonna win in this situation.
Starting point is 01:00:56 And Andy's like, she's giving you constructive criticism. And Daniel says, look Hannah, things were not happening to you. You were creating the things that were happening to you. You know, and watching it back, like the Amanda stuff, I'm restraining myself because you're really not a good friend. You're not a good friend at all. And Kyle's like, yeah, you kick turn to the curb,
Starting point is 01:01:14 and that's 99% of my problem with you. And then we get to a clip of Hannah going, you know what, I'm over this toxic friendship, Amanda. Yeah, yeah. And Kyle's basically saying his heart broke for Amanda. And I think rightfully so, I think Hannah treated Amanda really poorly. I mean, Amanda was also kind of dumb because she just was like blindly sticking up for Hannah. When Hannah had sort of done her dirty a few times.
Starting point is 01:01:36 So Sierra's basically like, well, why can't, like if it is an issue between Amanda and Hannah, like why can't that be their fight? Why does Kyle have to get into it? And goes, well, unfortunately, I do fight Amanda's battles and then I get drunk and then I be on them. So that's my that's my challenge that I work through. And Hannah's like, well, stop trying to villainize me. I haven't done anything to you. Oh, she's another one.
Starting point is 01:02:01 She just like it's just fault. Like, there is a call after she's a rock, you know know, she's in the wrong so she's a victim, you know Yeah, I'm never And he's like hello you can't do that shit. Hello So he is sort of like a little bit like a video game Like he is basically in Street Fighter when you do a combo because brutal Like he is basically in Street Fighter when you do a combo because brutal Oh
Starting point is 01:02:31 You can get do that Hannah. Oh The girls like three Hammers is what one times up. Sorry I got really into that I got really into that like a Carl as a video game sound effect thing Oh baby Hannah's like what did I say and Kyle says you know We ended the summer on good terms and then she spent the last three months just spewing lies about me It's okay, Kyle. What did I say then and and he's like well booty from Boston says that you said in an interview recently, that you're only friends with Kyle because you're paid to be and then we see the headline of there, you know, this article and he's like, do you feel that way, Hannah? She says, you know what? Carl and I got into many heated arguments that aren't seen, okay? And he said one time that
Starting point is 01:03:21 everything I've gotten in my life, I've gotten because of him. And so yeah, I said we get paid to be friends. And Carl's like, not true, not true body. Rude. And Carl goes, I was responding to that ridiculous comment because I was so shook. Remember, we all made a pact. We're all gonna say shook at some point during this reading, that was my, that was mine, right there. So Hannah was like, well, it was a painful thing that I said, and I'm sorry because it was in the heat of the moment, and I said some crazy shit. And Paige is like, can I say something? Kyle doesn't hold grudges, but Hannah remembers everything, and things just like pile on and pile on.
Starting point is 01:03:58 She's basically like Sierra's bed, but mentally, and she just can't get over shit. Okay, it's just too much accumulation like Sierra's bad. So Kyle saying, okay, you know, you go on all of these podcasts and you tell this story of everything that you have is because of me, but you don't tell the part leading up to that, which you made me so furious that I was responding to. And so Sierra's like, yeah, but they're still both
Starting point is 01:04:23 fucked up things to say. And Andy goes, is there a path forward here? And Hannah goes, yeah, I don't know what's wrong. I mean, we were in a good place. I have you, you were in a good place and you went and talked shit about it. I had I had trouble tracking this fight by the way, because I was like, I didn't understand why they were so angry also about these stupid comments that they had made, you know, and they were so mad. And Kyle, Kyle's base is, you know, like we're in a good, he's like, you're being too faced, you know, you're, you're nice to me, but then you're too face, and you're talking shit on all these podcasts. And he goes, you were talking shit two days ago on a podcast. I mean, what happened? And Carl goes, be real, all slam dunk combo.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, and they're like, why would I say about you? And he's like, welllless, lambdonk, combo. You know, they're like, why, what I say about you? And he's like, well, a couple of weeks ago, Luke had a bad episode, air, you know? And then you make a meme about it, you know? I mean, that's not cool. And then we see the meme that she made. And then, um, Carl's like, you know. Which is, by the way, like, by the way,
Starting point is 01:05:21 that meme was not a devastating meme. And he's like, whoa, you made a meme. made a meme and just like the meme was just like a just stupid You know Instagram filler Right something. Yeah, I was like some you know when you get out of a talk Talk to the boy again talk sick, you know and so Carl Cuz she said at some point like what are you guys even talking about like give me an example like what did I say? So he's like well Luke had a bad show and you made a meme.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And then you said, I had a drug problem on a podcast. And she was, no, I did it. I never did. And he goes, yes, you did, Hannah. And she goes, so you fucking kidding me. I made a joke about Adderall. And this was the Danny Peligrino thing. Because I guess he asked about drugs.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And she was saying, well, Carl, you know, Carl got a bloody dose because he was snorting too much Adderall. Whoops. Which. goes what's not a joke? That was brutal. Brittle. Body slam. Ouch. That must hurt. So they just like well she did some shitty things all summer but she's not a bad person and Carl's like well, but that was in the press. And she goes, yeah, well, it was two years ago. And then I apologize to thousand times. Andy is like, so Amanda or Kyle, can you give examples of things she said on podcasts that have been insulting and Kyle's like, well, she's just been talking shit for months.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And Hannah says, like, all I said was that on this podcast, it was so career-related. And no one's talking about it. And I felt like Kyle was misogynistic and like fucked up for him to say everything. Well, that I got was because of him. And, you know, Kyle's like, no, I don't think that Hannah owes her career to me. And so then he goes, well, you know, in the heat of the moment, we say extreme things, which is funny because that's what she was using for her defense. So they're both using the same defense of, well, you know, in the heat of the moment, we say extreme things, which is funny because that's what she was using for her defense. So they're both using the same defense of,
Starting point is 01:07:08 well, you know, it's the heat of the moment, we say things. So I always think it's funny that they're both, they're both acknowledge that they said some stupid shit in the heat of the moment, but they're unwilling to give the other person the benefit of the doubt. So they're just having this stupid fight about.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Well, it sounds like he pulled the jacks, right? It sounds like he pulled the jacks. Like? It sounds like he pulled the jacks. Like she, they got in a fight and he's like, you're only on this show because of me. Like this is my show. That's what it sounds like she's mad at him for. Right. Saying like, you have everything because of me
Starting point is 01:07:36 because what else would he be talking about, right? And so she's like, well, the things you said about my career and me only having this job because of you did sound misogynistic and it was fucked up! It was yeah, so then Kyle's like, okay, I want to get the bottom of this, okay, because I'm interested in having a good time with the people I care about and not because I'm getting bit, okay? So now Andy is like, Silliana was your apology to Kyle, genuine, and she goes, well, you know, my apology to the group was genuine and you know that dad fiasco
Starting point is 01:08:08 You know, I've just been watching too many mafia movies. I'm like stop. Let's just stop it right here That's mafia. I don't know why you're even bringing mafia movies into this. This is what mafia movies and I didn't know I didn't understand that association movies and I don't know. I didn't understand that association. Like this guy, he's coming at me non-stop and then it made me go at him non-stop and it was just so ugly and toxic and I just had to go to the group and say sorry. And I know Kyle. It's not about Kyle and my relationship with my dad or anything else. Kyle acts like that towards me because he wanted to feel better about himself and the minute I said that you're the man he left me alone for the rest of the summer. That's all he needed. It's his ego. I was like oh dear. Oh dear this is
Starting point is 01:08:59 not gonna go well on the Facebook. This is going to go well. So everyone's like, hand on no God. And then, but then Kyle's like, well, I didn't want to hear from you again. That's why I took the apology, which is funny because then that's kind of Kyle's admission that his side of the apology was also not genuine. So then Lindsey goes, let's break the fourth wall for a minute and see if there's a sandwich on the other side. Is there a sandwich? No, well, sorry about your wall And Andy's like, well actually stop breaking the actual wall Lindsay. Okay, Lindsay Lindsay you've broken the wall. Okay, that was expensive Lindsay All right, I'm Agnonating
Starting point is 01:09:39 Okay, look this show started four years ago and it's a group of friends This show started four years ago and is a group of friends That's her summer house together as friends That's the ladies names who made friends Mary Mars Marsakoffman You're the other real world which also is appropriate I'm gonna break okay everyone the bombshell, but this show is about friends. Yeah I was gonna be this way. I mean
Starting point is 01:10:20 It's a joke your bro. You love us. Yeah I'll be there for you. Stravy. I'll be there for you. Stravy. I'll be there for you. Stravy. So Carl's like, yeah, then when you tell people we're not friends, like, this show's kind of broken. It's just, well, we all said things about each other and they said I'm sorry. Because, nah, you're at next level.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Okay, let's just literally get that out there. And it's like, oh, I'm a podcaster, so I talk about things. Okay. Now she just grasped me at straws. She's like, oh, I'm a podcaster, so I talk about things. Okay. Now she just grasped me and she's like, how about this one? This might work. This is basically the equivalent of her just like rifling
Starting point is 01:10:53 through her giant pocketbook looking for mints. Like when someone says, do you have a second candy? You might have a scratch. Let me check. Let me check. Let me see. I'm a podcaster.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I talk a lot of podcasts. Does that work for you guys? No? And Amanda's like, no, like listen, there's check. Let me see. I'm a podcaster, I talk a lot of podcasts. Is that work for you guys? No? And Amanda's like, no, like listen, there's a lot of recent things. You have no remorse for anything. And she goes, you said literally terrible things about me, Kyle.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And he goes, I declined to do interviews just so I don't have to talk about you. And she says, you literally said, I'm fake. You're a fake. And so then Kyle just walks away. I need a moment, I'm fake. You're home. That's something Kyle just walks away. I need a moment. I need a moment. Can I piss on something?
Starting point is 01:11:29 I'm just, this is terrible. You are the most self-absorbed person I've ever met in my life. Yeah, and that's pretty much it. Next week, we talk about ham drops. It's a disaster. This was a disaster. A hilarious, by the way, and we all win. We all win. I thought it was a hilarious hour.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I was cracking up the entire time. I thought it was watching Hannah dig herself in a hole was pure entertainment for me. And watching also, but also watching how indignant everyone was was also hilarious to me. It was just great. It was a great hour. Yeah, it was some good times.
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