Watch What Crappens - The TV Clique: Big Brother - Week 3 in Review

Episode Date: July 27, 2013

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Hi, everybody. And also Matt Whitfield from Yahoo. Hi, Matthew. Are we really raising the roof like it's 1998? Well, we have to honor Nick, who said such wonderful things as brah, and what were his, like, 90s sayings that he kept saying?

He rollerblades. That's all the 90s you need to know. Yeah, and all of his sayings came from the same decade as the rollerblades. Yeah. So, welcome to this Big Brother podcast. We're gonna be doing this every week. We did not do it last week because it's July 4th, and we believe in independence, and

we're really glad that we're independent from the Mexicans. So yay, what are, yay Army. Thanks for that. MALE SPEAKER 1- Wow, it sounds like we got Arian here on the web show here. MALE SPEAKER 2- Yeah, you guys, you have to be as racist and 90s as possible.

We have to celebrate Aaron and Nick tonight on the podcast. MALE SPEAKER 1- You know, I literally cannot call her Aaron. I keep wanting to call her Arian, and that was even before her racist side came out. You guys

talk for a minute, because I'm going to copy this link and put it on our Facebook page at facebook.com slash Watch What Crappens, which is our Bravo podcast, so that people can talk to us and stuff. So you guys talk amongst yourselves while I do that. Okay? so I have a lot of questions. Benny, Ben, you were on vacation.

You are fully caught up on Big Brother now, I'm assuming? Let me tell you what happened. Okay, I went away for a week. I missed four episodes, okay? Last night, I was like, I've got to start watching these episodes. You know, the evictions coming up are doing our podcast. I figured I'd watch one or two, okay? I started

at 11 o'clock, so I knew I was going to be tired. I could not stop watching. This season is so good. It has all the perfect right components. I was up until 3.30 in the morning, and I wanted more. It's like the first time in four years when I have been compelled, truly compelled to go to Joker's updates and read all the updates. It's like the first time in four years when I have been compelled, truly compelled, to go to Joker's updates and read all the updates.

It's great. It feels like an old friend is back. I have questions. I have questions. So are you excited this season because of the racial undertone? Not the racial undertone. It's because of the outright racism and homophobia? Or is it just the cast is entertaining and other stuff?

Well, you know, I just love some good old-fashioned racism and some anti-Semitism and some homophobia. So really, this show has it all. It's like going home for Christmas. No, but seriously, I think actually the racism element is very interesting, actually. First of all, it's given us an amazing villain. For nothing else, it's given us a villain. What do you mean a villain? There's like seven villains in that movie. I know there's seven, but

Arian is like the main villain. What's great is that she would have been the villain even without the racist stuff. She would, yeah. The racist stuff is just sort of like the cherry on the sundae or the frosting on the cake. She is just a vile... It's the sundae or the frosting on the cake. She is just a

vile... It's the cherry on top of the black forest cake. Yes! The cherry on the ice cream cake. It's on top of the mud pie. Cherry on the mud pie. She doesn't believe in... She does not believe in Neapolitan ice cream. Only the blacks eat that, according to her.

So, that doesn't even make sense. I'm not racist, people. I was just making a joke at Arian's expense. I know. I was like, whoa, I haven't heard that one. Okay, before we jump into... You know that classic stereotype about black people? You need a pallet of ice cream?

Well, if you're going to go there, we could talk about, do you call them sprinkles or jimmies? I call them jimmies. No, you can't. That's actually racist. You can't call them jimmies. No, you can't. That's actually racist. You can't call them jimmies. It's racist. What is a sprinkle or a jimmy?

I don't even know what you guys are talking about. Okay. Sprinkles. You know what sprinkles are, right? And you know the chocolate sprinkles? Yeah. Chocolate sprinkles. I think people, I think it's only from like Massachusetts or certain places.

They call them jimmies. But it actually has racist origins. Why? Um, well, they're like, I don't remember the actual, the whole backstory of it, but I know it involves, like it's a rude, racist reference to black people. Well, okay, when we're talking about an ice cream topping, chocolate sprinkles, Jimmy's, why would anybody be offended? Listen, I think we got Arian right here

on our podcast, okay? This is someone, an unrepentant racist right here in that corner. To clarify, I hate white people. So, I mean, let's just get real. I was just at Disneyland where there's like white, there's every race, and they're all horrible.

I mean, you can really see the horrible, the horribleness of all of our races on display when we're all horrible. I mean, you can really see the horrible the horribleness of all of our races on display when we're all in a crowd like that. And I have to say, white people were by far the worst. I mean, in every single category. Yeah. Undoubtedly. And also, white people, do you really need those scooters to get around a

fucking park? Like, if you need a scooter to get around a park because you're too fat to walk from Space Mountain to, like, the Astro Blaster, don't come to Disneyland. You're on my way with your goddamn scooter. Get out of here with your diabetes. Did you hear that horrible news story a few months ago where rich bitches

from Orange County were hiring disabled people to go with their families to Disneyland so that they could get to the front of the line faster? Like that is something that Tamara and Vicky would totally do. Yeah, that's actually not a bad idea. Hey, if it works, you know.

Guess what, Matt? You're exonerated. I went to Snopes.com, which you know is the website to debunk or to verify all urban legends. And they say... Including urban legends starring Joshua Jackson and Tara Reid. And also the girl from That 70s Show. Yes. But the claim is Jimmy's, the sprinkles used on confections,

are so named as a reference to Jim Crow. And Snopes says, probably false. So there is an outside chance that you're very racist, Matt, but let's lie. Yeah, Snopes also said Obama's birth certificate was real. Just kidding, y'all. Just kidding. Wait. that's live. Yeah, Snopes also said Obama's birth certificate was real. Just kidding, y'all. Just kidding. Wait, so what I want to get back, I want to get back to this whole thing, though,

with Arian, and I think one of the reasons why this season has been so great off the bat is that we have some really vile people, like, really really loathsome, okay? And they're on one side of the house. This is like season six. There's a faction that has been created in the living memory of David,

who is just like Cappy in season six. And they are going after some girl who really has done nothing wrong, in this case, Alyssa, right? And it's like that combination of having an underdog and having these awful people who think they're the best coming after her makes it utterly compelling. And the fact that the underdog and having these awful people who think they're the best coming after her makes it utterly compelling. And the fact that the underdog has actually now twice escaped her demise is amazing.

It does, because you usually have to watch Big Brother for about six to eight weeks before this kind of stuff starts happening. Usually the popular hot people dominate for the first few weeks, and everybody follows along. Nobody says anything. But in this case, the popular hot people were against another hot person who America actually liked, so it was very different. Nobody likes hot on hot violence.

Well, that's also one of the great innovations of the season is that because they have such a big cast, they have too many hot people to get along properly. And so the clique is too big to support itself. And when hot people, especially hot girls, decide they hate each other, that's when shit goes down. I always say this. Remember season 10, April versus Keisha in the coven. I mean, just brilliant

stuff there. Sidebar, is anybody else drinking? Because I am. I've got to drive after this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you just call Lyft? Have you guys seen those cabs all over town with the pink mustache on front? Yeah, enjoy them while they last because

they're trying to lift an Uber out of LA. Why? Uber is my lover. Because the taxi commission has power. Whatever. The taxi commission, those old smoking bastards trying to run me down all the time.

Lyft has not pissed me off in traffic yet. So I'm still for them. So are you guys as equally enthused about this season as I am? I am super enthused. I was nervous, and I mean, I'll be honest, I was super nervous going into tonight's episode, because in my opinion, had Elisa

been evicted, I kind of just would have thought that the whole season would have gone to shit, and I was on pins and needles. I actually watched the East Coast broadcast, because I could not wait, and I was at the office, and I was just freaking out the entire time, but needless to say, I know we're jumping ahead a little bit, I was so

fucking excited that she survived. Yeah, absolutely. I was too, and I love her, like, tarantula lashes, and I love when she won MVP, and she's like, Oh my god, America! I'm obsessed, America! I was like, who is she obsessed with herself

I love her I just love her she's obsessed with like the whole idea of us this is a bold statement right now but I'm gonna cause you know I live for Rachel Riley she is my spirit animal I'm just gonna say that Elisa Elisa is like it's only been like two weeks but she's already up there I actually

I love her she's kind of a drag queen and I mean that in the best possible way she's hot no I think she's only a drag queen

when she puts on makeup for the eviction shows because otherwise she's actually really hot I think she's quite beautiful actually yeah I do too she's like a Rachel

who didn't let herself go and pretending she's anything other than a stripper really I mean well she's not really she probably really is a really. I mean, well, she's not really. She probably really is a yoga teacher. I think she has. Did you see her arms?

Her arms are jacked. Yeah. You guys, before we move on too much, I was wanting to play this. What am I doing here? We've never done this on here, so I'm not really sure if I'm doing the right thing. But I want to play a YouTube video. Do you guys even know how we do that on here? OK, never mind, Ben.

Go ahead. I'll try and figure it out while you're hot. BENJAMIN LESLIE- Well, I barely even remember my point. ALISTAIR WEAVER- Alyssa's hot, and she does yoga, and her arms are jacked. BENJAMIN LESLIE- I still, it's gone. My thoughts were gone. I should have written it down.

You ruined it. Let's talk about going into tonight's episode, where we stood, and then we'll talk about what happened on tonight's live eviction. Going into tonight's episode, a lot of shit went down this past week. Obviously, the head of household this past week was

the Aryan bitch, Arryn, and her nasty, evil henchman was Jeremy, who is as equally disgusting. And we have to say that, you know, before I even get into this, Aaron is a horrible person for being completely racist. But we can't rule out Gina Marie is also racist. Jeremy is a misogynistic, homophobic motherfucker too. And same with that railroad conductor who gets bonus points tonight,

but he's also a homophobe. So it's not just Aaron that we hate. We hate a lot of people. Okay, could you guys explain to me what all this racist shit is? Because I only know what they showed, because I don't watch a lot of feeds, because I really hate being spoiled,

because I love exciting nights like tonight, where shit just goes down. It all happens in an hour. I don't watch the feeds. Well, they showed a lot of Aaron's racist stuff on the show, I believe. I think Gina Marie has actually said some really bad stuff that hasn't – she has not gotten her public walloping the way Aaron has. But Gina Marie referred to welfare as N-word insurance. Right.

I heard that one. Which is bad. welfare as N-word insurance. Right, uh-huh, I heard that one. Which is bad. Apparently Jeremy calls women cunts left and right, and meat lockers, and, oh no, I'm sorry, he calls them meat lockers, and Spencer calls

women cunts left and right. Is Spencer that fat bastard train conductor? Yeah, the one that you thought was gay for a while. Yeah, well, he's also the one that calls Andy, who is obviously a homosexual. I think that he calls him a well, he's also the one that calls Andy, who is obviously a homosexual, I think that he calls him a fairy. And Aaron also called Andy something terrible, too.

She was like, oh, no one's going to vote for that queer. If the queer were to get head of household, no one would vote for the queer's choice. And she also said America loves queers or something like that. She also had a confrontation with Candace, and Candace was saying something, and she goes, Erin says, it's asked, not axed. And then she also referred many times at like, oh, black Candace is coming out now. Candace got a lot blacker now that she's saved. Oh, well, I did hear her say, you've got to watch out for her because you won't see her

in the dark. You won't see her coming for you in the dark. Yeah. Let me ask you guys this. So Aaron has gotten, like, obviously a public beatdown, and it continued even into tonight where Julie Chen was just, like, not having it. And Julie's actually on the talk this past week. She discussed it and said that Aaron's comments made her think about growing up as a kid and being called chink and being scared.

And you know, that's bad. If you upset the host of the show, oh, that's no good. Right. That's not good. But anyway, so Aaron has been publicly grilled for this. I mean, obviously we read the blogs and stuff. But when you get grilled, this is like groundbreaking that it happened on CBS. And they had a lot of pressure on them this past week to actually show this stuff.

I mean, they can't ignore what's going on in the social realm. And finally, CBS had the balls to do this, which I think is a huge deal. I love it. I love that CBS has showed. I love that they did a segment on it on Sunday night's show. And I love that they addressed it tonight. And I love also that they addressed it

tonight on the heels of Julie Chen talking to Aaron. And Aaron being like, well, I'm just an open person, I guess America knows a lot more about me, and Julie Chen was like, they do. She rolled her eyes, it was fucking TV gold. Yeah, no, I mean, I love that they're showing this, and some people, there are probably a lot of people out there who say, there are some people who are very drastic, and they say, Big Brother should be taken off the air. And there are other people who say this person should be scolded.

I actually think it's totally fascinating watching this girl go like, spew her racist stuff knowing that the whole country is ridiculing her. And that the show itself is ridiculing her. She lost her...

That's the craziest part about this. These girls don't know it. Gina Marie and Aaron have been fired, and they have no idea what's going on. I mean, you can have somebody like Amanda, who is like the coolest chick in the house besides Elisa and Helen, go up to this girl and tell her,

hey, you're kind of being perceived as a racist, and by the way, don't forget we're on TV. However, these two girls don't realize that once they get evicted from this house, they don't have a fucking job. That has never happened before. It happened

with Adam in season 9 when he called the autistic kids he worked with retards. Another great classy moment in Big Brother history. Okay, well, here's my thing. This is what I was trying to get to. So, Aaron has been grilled on TV

for two episodes in a row now. Are Gina Marie and Jeremy, or anybody else, or Spencer, are any of these people going to get the smackdown that Aaron did? Or is Aaron getting the smackdown because she said something about Asians and that hits close to the Julie Chen home? I wonder if it's...

I don't follow the live feeds enough to know the answer to this. Maybe someone can respond in the comments section. But what I'm saying is... But what I'm saying is... What I was about to say was that we don't know maybe the volume. Maybe Gina Marie had two fleeting, awful, racist things.

Maybe Erin has been a constant spewing, you know? Maybe that's why she's sort of getting more of the bitch edit. But the other thing is that Gina Marie, too... I'm going to stop you right there. You can't call it a bitch edit, Ben. She's a straight-up bitch. No, but that's what I'm saying. I agree. She's a straight-up bitch. And she's so awful and therefore entertaining because she's such straight up bitch. No, that's what I'm saying. I agree. She's a straight up bitch. And she's so awful and therefore entertaining because she's such a bitch.

And so vile. She's sour. She's mean. After she won head of household, the way she lined everyone up and said, okay, who here voted for David? I was like, this girl, honestly, there's no coincidence that she's named Arian because she would have been part of the Hitler Youth.

Absolutely. She would have been part of any genocide that came her way. I have no doubts. She would have gladly go and, like, mob mentality. She's in Shirley Jackson's lottery throwing stones at the poor family up on the thing. As a former Big Brother villain myself, I must say that as awful as she is, she makes for great TV. When she did that, when she pointed at people, point blank, like did you vote for him or not? I was like, this is amazing.

But what's great about her, what makes her such a good villain is that she doesn't even realize she's the villain. You know, there are a lot of those people who get on there and they want to be the villain. They want to play a certain role. I think Nick wanted to not be the villain, but he wanted to be a certain type of character on there, which is why his dairu sessions were first. Yeah, he was trying to be the guy who yells. You know how there's always that guy who has his shirt on, and he works out a lot, and he yells at the camera like that?

Yo, yo! Shut up. Yo, I roll a blade, yo. Oh, God, with the yo. Stop yelling. I hope he's on a bus. I hope Big Brother doesn't even give him a cat home. I hope he's on a bus to the

Big 8 motel. He's just rollerblading his way back to New York City. Thumb out. By the way, for those wondering, that's Big Brother After Dark happening right up there behind me. That might be Caitlin. Helen's crying.

Shocker. By the way, if any of you guys are watching... She got a letter from home and she's crying. If any of you are watching Big Brother After Dark or TVGN, which is TV Guide Network, throughout the day, who's the boss is playing, there's a ticker that runs across the bottom of the screen every once in a while, and I write that shit. Hey, that's cool.

Why do you write the ticker on the TV Guide Network? Because the ticker on TV Guide Network is brought to you by Yahoo. It's brought to you by Yahoo OMG. Wow, so you just watch the feeds all day and write that shit? I write, no, it's entertainment feed stuff that runs across the bottom of the network.

So it's a mix of stuff. Are you going to mention the TV click spelled C-L-I-Q-U-E? And you just sort of put it in the feed there very quietly? I will. After I shimmy. Because I like to shimmy. Shimmy.

Oh, video. Wait, so let's talk about some of the highlights coming into tonight's episode. Because we have a whole week's worth. Yes, so somebody set it up. I want to know, Ben, why don't you, or Ronnie, you haven't spoken. Why don't you talk about who the head of household was, who was nominated, and the lead up? I'm really bad with remembering things.

Tonight I tweeted out, God, Julie. Julie didn't know that Spencer didn't give, Julie got Spencer's vote wrong. Was she even watching the show? People were tweeting me like, you fucking idiot. No, she didn't. You're an idiot. Are you watching the show? And I was like, oh, I'm kind of not.

I'm tweeting. I can't watch a show properly if I'm tweeting. No, you guys talk about it. Since I just watched all the episodes last night, it's relatively fresh in my head. So we talked about it. We touched on this, which was that there was an endurance competition and Arian won and she immediately

had to put four people or five people onto have-not status. So they're behind you all. Y'all are gonna pay for this. And Wick is not accepted. Honestly, they

really acted as if David had been taken out back and shot in the head, okay? Which Arian is probably very comfortable doing to people who are not white. Well, if someone had told him he had a little Mexican in him, maybe. Yeah, she was like, oh, goodness. I also love, by the way, that when David was evicted and Julie was asking him why he thought he was evicted,

he's like, well, you know, I'm a pretty smart dude. Yeah, I'm a smart guy, yeah. I'm a smart guy. I'm just a really smart guy. So then she puts obviously Alyssa and Helen and Andy as have-nots and then there's this whole hubbub like

how could you put Helen on a second time in a row? You know that she by the way she also put what's the other girl's name? Candace. She also put Candace on and we know that she put Candace on because she's black. Let's just be real.

Oh, obviously. So here's the point that I was going to say before when Ronnie interrupted me, was that I get the sense that there's so much happening that doesn't even make it to the show, because every week,

or every episode, they sort of just say things, and we just have to assume, take it for granted. Like, they'll say, well, you know, Elisa, she causes so many waves. Or like, tonight, when they're like, well, oh, we can get McCrae. McCrae's

on our side. Like, when did McCrae come to their side? And when did this happen? And when did that happen? Like, things are just sort of... Like, you know, when Elisa and Aaron just start to hate each other. And why did they just start to hate each other? Like, I feel like we're missing things that people on the live feeds are getting, you know?

I hated Aaron as soon as I started watching, so I don't blame Elisa. Yeah. Well, the wine incident from last week was a great moment in bitchery by Aaron. Okay, let's get to nominations. Well, so what happened was, even before the nominations, Candice gets bonus points here. Because unlike those idiots from three seasons ago who couldn't figure out the brigade, even though it was right under their nose,

Candice sniffed out that there was an all-male alliance called the Moving Company. Which, by the way, I don't know, did you guys see the tweet on the live show today when Nick was evicted and someone tweeted, the Moving Company has just filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy? All right, so nominations. Aaron puts up Helen and Alyssa. No shocker there. Alyssa wins MVP. Also no shocker there.

She puts up Jeremy because she wants to get a strong guy out. How delicious. We have to talk about that for a second. It was so delicious because it was like when Jeremy and Aaron won the head of household competition, only one person can actually in theory, or not in theory, in reality, be the head of household. So Aaron took it. Obviously it makes sense because her showmance just left, and it makes it more juicy. But then that still puts Jeremy in jeopardy and I love that Elisa turned around and nominated him.

It didn't work out that way in the long run but it was funny that she was just kind of like okay bitch, well now you're back in the mix so I'm putting your ass up. Absolutely. I loved it. So then we had the veto competition. Jeremy somehow won this thing. What they had to do was they had to dangle these stuffed animals

off of like a mobile, mobile, mobile, how do you say it? That was a bunch of brooms from the 99 cent store, I recognize them. They were like broomsticks painted and then they had to make like a mobile and hang Build-A-Bears off of it. Not even Build-A-Bears, they were like those things you get out of the claw machine. Yeah, it was like... The Chuck E Cheese. The Shakeys. Cheap carnival toys.

So the thing is that these people are all idiots and leave it to Jeremy of all people to figure out that you take the big heavy ones and put them at the top. Like, why did no one think of that? I know that you didn't do it on purpose because of your thick Hispanic accent, but I love that you call him Jeremy. Because it makes so much sense.

Is it Jeremy or something? What is it? It's Jeremy and it's Mobile it makes so much sense. Is it Jeremy or something? What is it? Jeremy. It's Jeremy and it's Mobile. Mobile as in Alabama. Jeremy. I like Jeremy better. I like Jeremy because it sounds like you're saying G-E-R-M-Y, which is also apropos. Yeah. Well, why don't we just call him Cherokee because he's

like 1 16th Cherokee. I call him Nickel Machine. I call him Buffalo Fart. I call him... No, I'm not going to say it because I don't want to get beat up. So, anyway, the point is this. He somehow wins this veto,

which is really annoying. He gets taken off. And the question is, who is Alyssa going to put up? Because the instinct is to put up Caitlin, who is Jeremyssa going to put up? Because the instinct is to put up Caitlyn, who's Jeremy's little fuck buddy in the house. And, by the way, that bitch is guilty by association, too, because she always seems to be hanging out with the horrible racist people, and whenever they make a nasty comment, she's always laughing.

So I put her in the guilty box, too. I'm sorry. Caitlyn, she's like the... Yeah, she's horrible. No, but in the first episode, we all agreed, like, oh, she's really pretty. Really, she's pretty, she's bland, she's not going to do anything. Okay, I'll stop talking. She's evil.

Okay, listen, this girl is gorgeous, but I love that she dyes her hair black so she'll be smarter. It's like, bitch, just go back to whatever dirty-ass cloth you wear. Yeah, she just needs to get some glasses like this, and then we'll think she's a librarian. Yeah, she'll pull the ugly Betty on us. So I love that, and I love that scene where she was in bed this week, all worried that she was going to be put on the block, and Jeremy was, like, making out with her, and they kept playing that porno music.

This is from last night's episode. And he just keeps, like, slapping her, like, literally slapping her vagina. It wasn't even her butt. It was, like, the middle bottom of her butt. And he's like, yeah, baby, don't you worry about it, baby. It wasn't even her butt. It was like the middle, like the middle bottom of her butt. And he's like, yeah, baby, don't you worry about it,

baby. This ain't emotional. Oh, girl. And he did it so many times. And I just thought, you know what? Parents make an effort.

Parents make a fucking effort. He's just like a really, a hateful human being. And he's not even attractive enough to make it like somehow worth it. Like he's got a horrific tattoo right along his chest. He's got like Edward Munster hair. He's got a horrific tattoo right along his chest. He's got Edward Munster hair. Does he know that wings go on your back? You cannot fly with wings on your fucking chest, stupid.

Maybe he's hoping to be taken up like this, like raptured up, and his wings are going to take him up. Also noteworthy from last night's episode is we had the budding and now deceased showmance between Gina Marie and Nick, which is more on Gina Marie's side. Okay, is Gina Marie the last pageant person in the world to hear about POTOX? What the hell, Gina Marie? It's from Botulism, which is a show that killed a lot of people.

They inject it into your face and it will stop this part from moving, all right? Listen, the problem is that she's part of the Staten Island pageant world, not the Texas pageant world. So she's actually doing... Yeah, there you just take off the sanitary napkins that you got in the practice yard. Stuck to you.

Yeah. You just rub, for the makeup, you just take some ketchup from little packets of ketchup and just rub them on your cheeks. And that's... The funny thing is, this chick actually thought take some ketchup from the little packets of ketchup and just rub them on your cheeks. The funny thing is, this chick actually thought that Nick was interested in her, and the entire time they've been in this house,

Nick has just been dissing her and Jesse left and right, and I really think he's just banging some, like, dude that's a rollerblade instructor back home. Yeah, obviously. Like, probably Nathan from season three. Probably. He looked so excited at the broomstick challenge. Yeah.

He had one of them in his mouth at one point. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, I saw that. That's on my Instagram, girl. And then we also had Jessie who was also chasing Nick around. But poor Jessie. You can see she wants to be a cool kid, but she doesn't even have a showman. She has nothing.

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Yes. Now, talk about a random act. That is one of my favorite showmances, yet creepiest showmances. Amanda and McCree. Why is he creepy? I'm just going to go on record and say this. He is a little rough around the edges, but I kind of get like a little sexy Joseph Gordon-Levitt vibe.

I'm alone. I'm alone. Yeah, you're alone on that one. You're alone in the dark, dude. That's far. You're really far away from home. It's like she's just got these big fake tits and this battle axe attitude, and he's this guy who can't decide what to do.

His left from his right. It's like Peppermint Patty devouring Linus. It's just this strange. And honestly, their first hookup like she got under the covers and he's like on the edge of the bed, like he's not even under the covers, and she's there and she's like, oh it's hot, let me take my shirt off. And next thing you know they're kissing. It's really one of the most bizarre pairings that we've seen.

Not since Brigitte Nielsen and Flava Flav got together have I seen such a strange pairing on reality TV. Okay, so I want to go to the Facebook page and read some of what people are going to say. Lisa has been writing on here a lot. It's just hilarious. And Renee is saying, watching the feeds. Uh-oh, if you don't want to hear about feeds, close your ears.

If it's something horrible, I won't say anything. But Renee says, watching the feeds, they're all saying terrible things, but Arian is getting the brunt because she's more animated in her racism. Her Asian comments about nail salons, her comment to Helen to go eat a bowl of rice and the white fish being superior to the black fish

put Aaron to the leader of the clan. I actually think Gina Marie has dropped the N-bomb more. And Jeremy Spencer has said terrible misogynistic things, but Aaron and her Arian name, Bambi-esque beauty and total lack of remorse is the poster child for lack of self-awareness. Lisa says, Caitlyn not that hot

and Jeremy refers to her hoo-ha as a meat wallet. Nice. Rebecca says... We need to clarify meat wallet not meat locker. Yeah, my mistake. Well... Thank goodness we have an ombudsman. It's not a very good brag about his wiener.

My flat, sad, floppy wiener. And Rebecca is saying that people are fighting and going crazy in the house. Who can turn around and see the TV? Are people fighting? No, Howard's just talking reasonably. Okay, you guys, let's get up to tonight's episode, because there's a lot we still haven't even discussed. How about when Peppermint Patty was telling Arian

that people are mad that she's racist, and she's like, whatever. I mean, I'm not even going to justify that. I mean, they call me Barbie. Bitch. Yes, that's what we need to talk about, because she assumes that being blonde is like being in a minority.

Well, thank God someone finally said it, you know? No kidding, she's like, they call me a hot, perfect bodied, beautiful girl. Like, whoa, you sure told them, girl. This girl will never get a job again, except for maybe like administrative assistant at the Ku Klux Klan. I don't know how she could ever get a job again, except for maybe like administrative assistant at the Ku Klux Klan. I don't know how she could ever get a job.

Do they have job postings on Craigslist? They probably do. Well, you guys, this Trayvon Martin thing is coming to a head now, because that George Zimmerman dude, his trial is ending and we're waiting for a verdict, which I was gone all day, but I'm assuming that that hasn't come in yet. It did not. One of my favorite things to do

is go online whenever there's a story like that. I go online because I love to read the comments. Man, the racist, hateful, bullshit comments on these news articles, I mean thousands, like 10,000 comments, and most of them, like 80%, are so horrible and racist.

I think Arian will be fine. Look at stupid Elizabeth Hasselbeck and her stupid ass. She's leaving the view to go to Fox. They're going to be giving her millions of dollars. You know exactly what's going to happen when Gina Marie and Arian get voted out of Big Brother? They're going to go join a morning talk show with Elizabeth Hasselbitch in Fox News. Well, they'll go on the apology tour. They'll go on Dr. Phil, and then they'll cry.

And they're like, I never realized. I guess I didn't realize the words I said actually hurt people. And then they'll feel exonerated, and then they'll disappear into a Klan rally and never be heard from again. Arian will find some rich man to take care of her. And Gina Marie, I don't know. Well, I think the difference between Arian and Gina Marie

is that I think Gina Marie has shown that it seems like maybe it's coming off as more ignorance. I don't know. I haven't really seen her comments. I'm being ignorant. But she seems like a friendlier person on a conversational level. Whereas Arian seems like she's

a racist and she's also a super spoiled brat bitch. Yeah, she's just horrible. And there's a big difference with that. Like, I feel like with Gina Marie, if she was confronted with this, she would feel terrible. I would like to think that she'd feel terrible, and maybe she'd try to rectify it or change her ways. But Arian's just like, whatever, I'm blonde.

They make fun of me for being blonde. Yeah, not the same thing. Rosa Parks said the same thing. And guess what? It was still wrong for her to take that seat. Wait, what? Arianne's like, I can't believe anyone would even take the bus to begin with. That's her own fault.

Yeah. Doesn't Rosa Parks have Uber? And I'm honestly hoping that she stays on for a really long time because she is so much fun. And I cannot wait until they just start ripping her to shreds because it's coming. Well, I like that we have a bunch of people that we hate, because this way it's not like a situation where there's one person we hate when they're

gone and the season falls apart, sort of what Matt alluded to earlier. We have like, it's like a four or five headed monster, so there'll be some good time to come. I have to say also, by the way, Jessie, I hated her the first episode, and I don't love her or really like her that much, but she's not as awful as I thought she'd be. Look, after

tonight's episode, a lot has changed. Obviously, we had a scandalous eviction. We have a really cool new head of household. We'll get there in a few minutes, but a lot of people also redeemed themselves, and my opinion on a lot of these people also changed tonight. Yeah, absolutely.

And isn't it funny, by the way, that we're rooting for the Mom Squad? That's the name of their alliance. And it's kind of like the inverse of Season 6, where the friendship were sort of like... The lamest alliance. They were like the Mom Squad, you know? Like, just moms are, you know, lame.

And we hated them. But this time around, we're like, yeah, Mom Squad, moms, yeah! Like, when they were, like, crying over their kids, I normally hate that shit. I was like, yes, you should cry. You're empathetic. You're in a house full of assholes. I'm glad you guys found each other.

Maybe it's because my biological clock is ticking eight years later, and it wasn't back then. But I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that, obviously, Rachel Riley, former Big Brother winner, is obviously one of the biggest personalities to ever play this show, and she's a fan favorite. She always will be. She's right there with Janelle, and

let's just talk about this for a second. Wait, wait, I'm not putting her up there. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Flag this down. What? Rachel Riley was one of the most obnoxious fucking people ever. She was a villain her first season. She was a villain her second season. She was a villain her second season. But everyone was so mean to her

in her season that people started rooting for her only because she was getting kicked out so much that people like to root for the underdog. I agree. You make me feel like I have to defend her now, so I'm just going to say this one thing because I think me comparing her to Janelle set you people off, so I'm going to say

this one thing. Rachel Riley fucking won. Janelle never won. you people off, so I'm going to say this one thing. Rachel Riley fucking won. Janelle never won. No, no, no, but this isn't about the score of a card, because you could be an amazing player, and then almost always awful people win Big Brother, so that's actually something against

Rachel Riley. I mean, look at the people who've won this stupid game. But I agree with what Ronnie said. Rachel, she was such an underdog that you sort of rooted for, and in her season, her first season, she's the only one doing anything, and they were really so mean to her that eventually it was that underdog thing. But it was that conflicting thing where you're like, I'm rooting for her because she's keeping it interesting,

but she's also kind of awful. I never fully embraced her the way I was, like, bowing down at the altar of Janelle so much so that even in subsequent seasons when she got sort of, like, worse and worse, I didn't care because I loved Janelle so much that, like, it doesn't even matter. Okay, okay, okay. Rachel was just so much fun.

I mean, Rachel was just such an ass. I mean, she's just so... And that whole, I'm a chemist, was hilarious. It still is. She's trying to be a party planner or some bullshit now. She is a former cocktail waitress from Caesar's Palace. Yes. Who said that they saw her applying for the front desk job at LA Fitness?

Who said that? Was that one of you guys, or was it someone else? It was someone here, because I heard that. Either way, what I was going to say... I think it was our pal Patrick Gomez from People Magazine. He told me that when we played Big Brother Media Day

this past year. He said that she was applying to be a fitness instructor at LA Fitness and I was like, get me signed up to that location. I think she'd be a good fitness instructor, actually. Okay, okay, I needed to bring this up. So we got on this Rachel Riley tangent, but what I wanted to ask you guys is, obviously we all like Alyssa slash Alisa, whatever her name is,

but it is such an unfair advantage that she is going to win this MVP every week. Is there a point in even having MVP? Do you think they'll kill it off? Where do we stand? I don't think that she's going to win it every week. I think she'll win in the beginning, but then other people... I don't know. I could see Helen snagging it

once. And the producers are going to fuck with it, too. They're going to give it to Arian for no good reason. Oh, yeah. When Arian's on the block, she'll get it. Yeah. No way. No way. Amanda could win it, too. Amanda could win it, too. Here's the thing. I feel like we're

all genuinely rooting for Alyssa, for Helen, Amanda. We're rooting for them and when they attack someone, we're laughing with Rachel, for instance. A lot of times she would do things and I enjoyed Rachel because I could laugh at her for being so dumb.

Her arguments with Brendan, they were so awful. Rachel's hanging out with a four-year-old. She's like really fun and having fun, and then suddenly, you're like, oh my god, what just happened? Because she's stomping her feet, and she's like, dude, he's mean to me! It's like you've fed her... I don't want it!

You fed her too many Dixie Cups and she crashes after all the sugar. So I have a question now. Where do you think, in terms of like Howard, Howard seems like a really nice guy, like a thoughtful guy, but he's in like the asshole alliance. How did that happen? And do you think that he's now

screwed? Well, it's also funny because they showed Howard then also in tonight's episode, and I was reading this online as well, he also has been offended by a lot of the comments that were said against black people and it's kind of like, then why would he ever you know, at some point, yes

I understand you're playing the game and clearly I would play an emotional game and be a crazy person and get kicked out immediately but Howard should not align himself with Jeremy, he should put his foot down and say you're a fucking horrible, terrible motherfucker and I can't play the game with you. Yeah, I think

you should. It's got to change this week because that is, obviously, they can count, at least some of them can count, so they're going to know that things are wrong with their alliance and shit's going to go down. So that's probably pretty much over at this point. So I have to say, I just assumed that Alyssa was going home. I thought

all this stuff with Nick was going to be just massive misdirection, because I was like, well, why... I just could not conceive that Alyssa could stay. The only person I thought they were maybe going to be able to pull over was going to be

McCray, because of his relationship with Amanda. Never in my wildest imagination did I think that Jesse and Judd would also be part of that plan. And Spencer. And Spencer. Exactly. I mean, did that not blow your mind? I was screaming at the TV. What was the deal with Spencer? Why did he change his vote?

So, you guys, I read this online as soon as the episode aired on the East Coast. People are speculating that Spencer knew that Nick was going home. So as a result, he talked to – Spencer's the train conductor, right? And who is the black guy? Howard. Howard. So Spencer and Howard – the rumor is that Spencer and Howard knew that this was probably going to happen. So Spencer and Howard, the rumor is that Spencer and Howard knew that this was probably going to happen. So one of them threw a vote one way and one of them threw a vote another way so that they could confuse the House. So afterwards when people were trying to count, they could confuse people there.

Because they kind of saw the writing on the wall that Nick may be going home. That's just what I read in the immediacy after Nick's dismissal. Interesting. Yeah, because that was not a close vote. Yeah. Except before. That was a pretty solid defeat. I like it. I have to say, Helen, what I like about Helen, she is a political consultant

and she is articulate and she makes articulate points and she seems, I guess she seems to be pretty effective in swaying people. I thought when she gave her spiel to Jesse about the totem poles or whatever, I thought for sure it wasn't going to work, but it did work.

At least according to the editing, it looked like Helen caused that. So it'll be interesting to tell everyone. MALE SPEAKER 1.: Her speech to Arian did not work, but I just thought it was so funny anyway, because she's like, listen, I'm not mad at you. It's a good game. It was a good move.

But we could work together. No one would suspect it, because we don't like each other. So think about it. Whatever. Good game. Great job. I'm not mad at you. So good job. Great game. You're doing a great job. We'll talk later.

I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you. And she's like, okay. After you told me to go make some rice. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm really good at making rice. It's funny. No one gets your humor, Arian.

No one gets your humor. But I do. I do. Yeah, Helen's so nice. She's probably like, what, white people don't like rice? I mean, why wouldn't I make her rice? She wanted some food. I'll make her some rice.

Here's how nice Helen is. I'm going to fast forward just a little bit. She wins H2OA. We'll get to it later. But she, as the crowds are rolling, Jean Marie is crying in the corner and Helen is the one consoling her. This is supposed to be Helen's moment where she basks

in being H2OH. And she's got to sit there with freaking racist Staten Island face in the corner, making her feel better. And none of her friends are doing it for her. Well, let me tell you right now, that was very smart gameplay on Helen's part. I don't think it's because Helen has some heart of gold.

She probably is a very nice woman, but honestly, I think that she's thinking further down the line than anybody else is, and I think that she's trying to secure Gina Marie. Should, for some reason, Gina Marie end up winning some challenge, Helen is not going to be in the shithouse. So Nick gets voted out. It's a blind side.

Gina Marie starts bawling. And she is sobbing. She is sobbing. This is like... With her eyes like... This is like... She's like the opposite of a racist impression. That would be like this. And she's like... opposite of a racist impression that would be like this and she's like

what she was like one of the she's like one of those like sad like westerns where like the mama like loses both her sons in the war like one's in the south and one like David was the son from the south and now and now Nick is the son from the south. And now

Nick is the son from the north. And now she's found out. She's like, oh, my son. She really is. That is hilarious. I mean, could you imagine if he'd actually fucked her? Oh, my God. Actually, we can't imagine that.

We can't. I think he imagined it, which is why he stayed the hell away from her the entire time. Actually, we can't imagine that. We can't. I think he imagined it, which is why he stayed the hell away from her the entire time. Hey, can you imagine when we finally kiss? It's going to be so good. Hey, you want to take a shower? He's like, no.

She's like, okay, fine. Don't see my boobs. Okay, I'll show them to you later. You want to see my Verizona narrows? Oh my boobs. Okay, I'll show them to you later. You want to see my Verrazana narrows? Oh my god. He's just like baseball, baseball, baseball. Back to the eviction though, didn't you think it was kind of

cocky on his part? I mean, looking back, I kind of think that when they got up to give their speeches, you know, Elisa was kind of annoying because all she did was ramble off her fan base. But it was sweet and genuine. No, it was sweet and genuine, but it was kind of just because all she did was ramble off like her fan base. But it was sweet and genuine though. No, it was sweet and genuine, but it was kind of just like wrap it up girl. Like I saw like the producers of the Oscars like wrap it up, red light flashing.

Yeah, Chen Ba had smoke coming out of her ears. But then we get to Nick and he starts like saying like some cutesy funny things like to his To the swing votes. to the people in the house, to the swing votes. To the swing votes. But I don't think that he did himself. I mean, at that point, I think a lot of people's minds are obviously already made up,

but I think that he wasted an opportunity there. And I think that he was so cocky that he thought he had it in the bag, and he didn't. He was cocky this entire game. He was cocky in his interview segments. He was cocky even before the game started in his bio. He's been cocky the entire time. And, you know, His big mistake was that

he started up this stupid four-man, four or five-male alliance, which, except for the Brigade, always falls apart within three weeks. There's always some alliance of about four guys that have muscles, and it just collapses in on itself

within three weeks. But you know what? The past few years, those guys have won. No, no, no. It's only been the Brigade. And that's only because they had a cast of idiots. Meow, meow. The Brigade didn't even do anything.

The entire cast just sat there the whole season because no one wanted to make a wave. So the Brigade could just float along. Exactly. That cast did a hell of a lot of stuff. That's when Hayden won, right? Yeah, that guy, I don't even remember one thing he said the whole time. I remember that I couldn't look at him. He was cross-eyed.

He looked like a mushroom from Mario Brothers. He didn't say anything. He took off his shirt a lot, which was lovely. And then he won. I was like, who's this guy? I think even when he won, even at the finale, I was like, who's that? Where's Renny? I still

pour one out for Renny whenever I have the opportunity. Every season, I just wait for Renny to come back. Why hasn't she been one of the special guests? And they're like, a Big Brother legend is back. And it's like, hello, everybody! It's me, Renny! I think that's a great idea.

I do too, and I love that she also dresses like Rip Torn and wears glitter and throws glitters. She wears turbans. I had an experience with Renny. This'll be a classic Ben Mandelker name drop. Yeah, this one I love, I love this one. But I went to, I went to like, I guess like Fig and Olive

or something like that. She's not allowed in there. Fig and Olive. She's like, do you got any room? No. Let me tell you something. Fig and Olive did a four-day opening party. They had a party every single night. Somehow I got on the list.

I think because of food PR or whatever. I don't know. I got on the list. I go because of, like, the food PR or whatever. I don't know. I got on the list. So I go and I bring my friend Sylvia, who you guys know. And I'm sitting there and Renny's there. And I'm like, oh, my God, you're so good on Big Brother. She's like, thanks, doll. Thanks, doll. Then she comes and sits with us.

And she's with us, like, the entire evening. And she's wasted. Oh, that's so dumb. No, no, no. A little Renny goes a long way. She's great to watch on TV, but when you're at a party and she's drunk and talking to you and when she talks, she's splattering

spit on your cheek. She's also probably splattering beignets and crawfish on you. And she's talking like Mardi Gras on my face. Can that be our next podcast? She was so nice. She our next podcast? She was

so nice. She was so nice. She was so funny, and she was talking shit about everyone, but it was like, after a while, I was like, okay, I want to get back to my friend here. And like, you know, Sylvia is, she's like, big brother is foolish, and she's like, why

are you engaging this woman dressed like a clown, you know? By the way, if you have Rennie's number, why are you engaging this woman dressed like a clown, you know? By the way, if you have Rennie's number, she needs to come on to the TV clique colon Big Brother. Oh, my God. That's so true. Sylvia is like, this is foolish. Why are we talking to this woman? We should get someone from Big Brother on this.

We can get some people. That should not be a problem, seeing as they all live in Los Angeles. They do. Well, we might be able to get Dr. Will. Wait, wait, wait. Were you about to say, oh, well, I'm friends with Reagan Fox. I'm friends with Marcellus. I already dropped those bombs two weeks

ago. I was going to drop the I'm friends with Dr. Will bomb, but that's all right. Yes, and Dr. Will and Boogie know who you are, and they like you very much, because when I met them, they were like, oh yeah, that's where Ben's from. We really like that guy. How is he? How's his new site? Is he still

writing about Big Brother? He's so nice. I don't know if Dr. Will would come on this, because he likes to distance himself from Big Brother, but we could probably get Boogie. That motherfucker is on Twitter all the time talking about Big Brother. Alright, I'll ask him to come on. Yeah, ask him to come on. He'll come on

for five minutes. If not, I'll go knock down his door on Wilshire Boulevard. I know where Dr. Tadoff is at the corner of Wilshire and La Cienega. Yeah, you do that. You guys want a little... This is a funny one from Renee. She's watching the live feeds. Live feed update. Gina Marie

totally lost it tonight after Nick left because she lost the love of her life tonight. She was rocking in the corner with Nick's coffee cup and chapstick, wailing away. Who wants to know who wants to know that she takes that chapstick into the ladies room

later? Listen, because you know, she saw Nick the big plan. The big plan was to move out of Staten Island and into Manhattan, you know, with someone who has a brain. But now it's like back to Vito in the pizza parlor, you know. I know. She's not crying because she lost him. She's crying because she lost a lifestyle that

she thought she could possibly get. Yeah. But she's from Staten Island, baby. It's like she's crying about a tree that got cut down that she never even climbed. Shut up, Gina Marie. That wasn't your tree. That was in a park. Shut up.

That was a tree that only lets other trees climb it. Yeah, it was in a very gay park in gay West Hollywood. It was like a weeping willow, let's be honest. The gayest of all the trees. Yeah, I mean, that guy stopped short of putting a penis in his mouth, but barely. Only because there wasn't one in the house. Only because he had a mobile stick in his mouth instead.

Speaking of, I would like to thank casting for one season for giving us a gay guy that I actually like. Yes, I love him. That has never, ever, ever happened on this show. I really like him. He's so sweet. He's funny, too.

Excuse me. Why do we like him? Is he that awesome? No. He's funny. He's funny. He makes funny comments. First of all, again, in his bio, he said that he was training the family cockatiel to refer

to his dad as a girl, which is hilarious. Okay. That's fine and all, but what has he done on this show so far that's been amazing? Well, he keeps on calling Arian the devil. Yeah. in all, but what has he done on this show so far that's been amazing? Well, he keeps on calling Arian the devil. Yeah, when he said the devil, what did he say? Something about the devil having a baby?

He goes, the only thing that was good about going to the head of household room is that I finally got to see baby pictures of the devil. Yes, yes, thank you. Like, honestly, that line is a great line. And also, Amanda has some good lines, too. Amanda has good lines. And I sometimes think that this show is, I mean, well, I always think it's scripted,

but sometimes I really do think it's scripted because they really plan out who you see and who you don't see. Like, the fact that you haven't really seen him means that he's going to be around for a long time. It's almost like they burn off. The ones they show in the beginning a lot are always the ones who get burned off. Well, they have a limited amount of time. And if there's stories going on, if people are getting into fights, and if people are involved with strategizing, they're going to get the camera time in the beginning.

That makes me believe that Judd is going to win the whole goddamn episode, or the whole season. No, he'll have his moment. He'll burn out in the middle of the season, I think. The first frog hunter to ever win Big Brother. I think he's going deep. Okay, so, let's see. Nick has voted out.

He has his interview with the Chen bot. He's totally rattled. Wait, wait, wait. I want to talk for a second. Did you guys, like, the most important thing to me was to look at Jeremy and Aaron's reactions when Nick got voted out. It was delicious.

It was. It's exactly how I imagined they would have reacted had they known about Doma being shot down. Oh my God, there's going to be fags in church. That was what their look said.

Yeah, exactly. I'm hearing weird noises over here. It sounds like a little goat. Oh, you guys. I have, okay, I'm doing this on my kitchen counter because there's lights here, and otherwise, like, my house is lit, like, I don't even, it's like a cave in here.

Your house, I'm going to say, is the darkest fucking house I've ever been in, and I don't mean that in a racial way. I've never been into it. It is. It's really dark. The only lights in here really are Christmas lights. There's no real lighting in here. It's all

lamps. There's no real light. Anyway, I do it right in front of my kitchen pendant lights. I've always done podcasts like this when I used to do video podcasts, but the stools I have are like those American Idol stools. Oh, I hate those. Plastic space st the stools I have are like those American Idol stools, you know, like those big, tall, plastic space stools. You keep doing

stuff like this. I do? No. Oh, my God. I guess it does look like that. A giant one. But it's like these big, plastic space stools, and they're so uncomfortable, especially when I gain weight, like when I'm on the heavier end of my 80-pound flux. I can't sit

on this. I'm chafing, just sitting in the chair. Okay. I can't sit on this. I'm chafing, just sitting in the chair. That's what I said. MALE SPEAKER 1 AND MALE SPEAKER 2, MALE SPEAKER 1 AND MALE SPEAKER 2, MALE SPEAKER 1 AND MALE SPEAKER 2, MALE SPEAKER 1 AND MALE SPEAKER 2, MALE SPEAKER 1 AND MALE SPEAKER 2,

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so let's move on to the Head of Household Competition. Where I had five heart attacks in the span of three and a half minutes. It wound up being double overtime. Julie Chen, the Chen bot, nearly exploded. She was so angry.

She was like, I need an answer. I need an answer now. I don't think that she was angry. I think that she had the opportunity to make it extra dramatic, and girl was already rocking a teal jumpsuit, and she was like, I'm going to take it to the edge of glory. And honestly, when I think... Oh no, I'm sorry, Ben. Go ahead. No, I was jumpsuit, and she was like, I'm going to take it to the edge of glory. And honestly, when I think... Oh, no, I'm sorry, Ben. Go ahead.

No, I was just going to say, she's wearing what I like to call the sleeveless Gumby. Yeah, I was calling her Agent Gumby on the Twitter. So she looks like... Okay, first of all, I love that Julie has no filter this season and is openly hating people. I think that that's wonderful.

I love that she was yelling at people. Yeah, and I also loved that in this competition, like in the first time in Big Brother history, everybody was getting those random things right. I know. I mean, they had like, they were like, she's like, how many Kleenex are in a box? And everyone's like, 5,022.

And she's like, 5,022. Fucking A, really? Right, when they had that first playoff question and it came down to how many bottles of coke were in all of the different crates combined and people came up, except for McCray, everybody came up. McCray was one off. The dummies came up with, right, but the

six dummies came up with quick math and were able to get 168. It blew my fucking mind. Yeah. Julie Chan, I think, was going to explode. I know you think that she wasn't mad. I think she was like, I think she gets stressed out during these competitions because she always yells at them, but this was like the most

she's like really yelled. Well, I actually think that Julie was stressed out just like we were because going into this competition we knew that Aaron could not be head of household for a second week in a row, but we knew that Jeremy was in the mix. And so when Jeremy went out on question one, I was relieved. But the people that we didn't want to win were Caitlin and, I don't know,

Caitlin went far in the competition, as did Howard, and that put some, you know, the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up because they were, okay, that cell phone needs to turn the fuck off. It's not mine. I'm on silent, Ronnie. This is for our Twitter. I mean, this is for our Facebook page on Watch What Crappens to hear what comments people are making.

Whoever's commenting is rude. Do you think that Erin has a hard time not being head of household? I think she'd have a hard time understanding a world where a white person is not the head of the household. I think it would be very difficult for her. I can't wait until they go look at Helen.

An Asian is the head of the household. She's going to be like, I can't live in this communist house anymore. The bunch of fascists. Chopsticks everywhere. She doesn't know what any of those words that any of you just said mean. But it's going to be awesome when she's asked to go, everybody want to see my HOH room? And they're going to go up and it's going to be like when she's asked to go everybody want to see my HOH room and they're going to go up and it's going to be like

here's Helen's HOH kimono here's Helen's HOH wooden shoes and that girl is going to lose her shit she's going to probably ask for fortune cookies up there yeah she's going to get up there and a car is just going to run her off the road she's going to be like

damn it I told you you can't trust those people! I want Andy to win Head of Household because I heard him on the live feeds on After Dark last week talking about how his... You know they always get a CD? And his CD is nothing but covers of Silent Night. Who?

Andy, the gay guy. He's like obsessed with that. You all think he's funny and I'm terrified of that ginger. Well, I don't. He's like obsessed with that. You all think he's funny, and I'm like terrified of that ginger. Well, I don't think that's weird. The Silent Night thing is weird, but I would like to see what they all say to that. Gingers have scared me ever since I saw the first Child's Play starring Chucky. Yeah.

And yet you love Rachel Riley. Well, like she's a ginger, please. It's true. Yeah, she's not a tree ginger. Okay, so you guys, Helen is now the new head of household this week. We obviously know that people like Elisa and Andy and McCray and Amanda are all safe. Who do you think that she is going to nominate? I think she's going to nominate Meat Wallet, Jeremy, and Gina Marie.

Yeah. I think she's not going to nominate Arian because I think she's going to hold on to her quote-unquote promise. Even though Arian never made that promise, right? No, Arian never committed to Arian. Ellen's going to want to show that she holds promises. Which, by the way, is the stupidest thing you can do on the Big Brother, because no one stays true to their word. The way you convince

people to do things is not by expressing loyalty or proving your loyalty. You do it by making them afraid of someone else. So you start a rumor about someone. The way you should deal with Arian is to say that so-and-so said something about her, and then she'll go crazy.

Or so-and-so was talking to David, although David's gone now. That's how you deal with it. You don't say, I will be loyal to you, I will promise you this or that. No, no. You have to create, you have to plant seeds of paranoia.

That's how it works. Do you guys think that... Go ahead. I was just going to say, this week the shit's going to hit the fan with that group because they're not in power for the first time. So this is going to be where they're all on the block. I mean, they've been losing

their composure when they're in power. So it's going to be amazing to see what they do when they're not in power. Do you think that there's any chance that Helen being as smart of a player as she is, does something a little wacky, whether she decides to put up,

you know, you know, a pawn immediately, or not go for Jeremy and consider backdooring him later, or is she just going to have to be up front about it, and go either some combination of Jeremy, Gina Marie, and Aaron?

Is that an obvious, is that obviously how it's going to play out? I didn't have a whole lot of faith. I mean, you say she's a good player in this, Nat. I didn't have a whole lot of faith last week,, you say she's a good player in this and that. I didn't have a whole lot of faith last week. And this week when she was telling Alyssa, you know, you cannot put up another girl.

Wait, was it her? Or that was Candice. But anyway, she was also, you know, on that whole boat of don't get rid of, you know, let's girl power and blah, blah, blah. And I didn't think that she was a good player. But everything she's done so far has actually been pretty good. And I'm going to trust what she does. I'm going to go with it, because I'm always wrong. Every time I think I know who's going to get kicked off, I'm wrong. I will never, ever

win up any kind of a pool. So let's talk about MVP, and let's talk about who we think is going to be MVP and who we want. Who are we going to officially endorse? Who are we going to tell people to go out and vote for MVP? want who are we going to officially endorse who are we going to tell people to go out and vote for MVP well i think it makes it more interesting if it's somebody other than Alyssa and because Alyssa is safe this week with Helen being head of household i think it would

be more interesting for the house if it was somebody else now if Helen had not won HOH i would have probably endorsed her and i actually would have thought that uh... she was rising uh she was rising with the fans, and I think that they would have considered her over Alyssa. I do still think Alyssa has it in the bag, but if it were to be somebody else, I do think it would be fun to have Amanda win it.

I think that she is going to end up playing the game too hard and get herself evicted in the next few weeks. However, I really like the showmance between her and McCray, and I do think that she's incredibly smart, and I just like what she's doing. I vote for Amanda, too.

We're going to say that the TV Click, big brother, the TV Click endorses Amanda this week for MVP, so everyone go out and vote for Amanda. How later polls open, do we know? Is it just tonight or is it tomorrow? No, it goes for a few days. I cannot endorse anybody giving a dollar to CBS. No, you can do it

online. Do it online. Online is free. Oh, it is? I take it back. Yay, CBS. You're so great. You know who else is great? CBS, the pharmacy. Yeah. You can vote for your MVP of pharmacists. They secretly get to fire someone, the pharmacy. Yeah. You can vote for your MVP of pharmacists. They secretly get to

fire someone from the pharmacy. And if you ever find yourself with some horrible cough in the middle of the night, CVS. Then come home and watch CBS. Which has CSI. And then sit in a chair from CB2. CB2.

And then watch Star Wars and see CB3PO. CB3PO? Oh gosh. CB3PO. You almost alienated our entire fanboy fanbase. You guys,

Howard is in this episode a lot, Ben. I know you can't see it, but I've been kind of watching it. He's like, he must be doing The camera's like,

he's, I think he's praying. Hold on, let me turn it up. What do you guys think is going to happen? Wait a minute, Howard's doing something crazy up here. What do you guys think is going to happen? Yeah, let's see. Let's see what Howard's doing. Okay, I'll stop talking. Yeah. This is not about you. It's about what's happening on the TV Guide Network.

Okay, he's breathing. I think he might be, I thought he was praying. He might be praying. He's like sweating. He looks like he's pooping. He might be praying. He's, like, sweating. He's, like, grunting. He looks like he's pooping. He looks like he's in the middle of exercise. He's got, like, some sweat right here. Right here. I'm already bored.

He's either taking... He's grunting. He's either taking a big, nasty shit... And his eyes are, like, going left and right. It's, like, a very intense... Guys, what is he doing? I say pooping. I say getting a BJ.

No, he was on his knees. His hands were out on like a couch. Jesse is giving him a BJ. He looks mad. It looks like something must have happened to Howard. I would be mad if Jesse were giving me one too. I can't tell if he's about to cry or not. Jesse's like, you guys, you know that live affection?

Do you think that Julie liked me? Because I feel like she has a crush on me because I'm so pretty. I don't know if I should date Julie or not, you guys, because I'm so pretty. What do you think? I think there's that kind of thing, though. I think you'd like me. I wish that Jessie were a Jew. Candice is crying now.

Candice is crying. Wow, Ben really does like to help everybody. Oh, calm down. She's crying. They're in the bathroom. I'm trying to watch it through your camera. Who is crying in the bathroom? So, Candace is crying. She's sitting in the bathroom. And Andy and Helen

and Alyssa are there consoling her. I think that there was a fight because Howard was all pissed off in one room. It looked like he was trying to get his zen. She's saying I think she had a fight with Howard.

She's talking about she had a fight with Howard. But they prayed together. Who fights after they pray together? Aren't black people supposed to stick together? Like the fish in the tank. It's so stupid. There's been a fight.

There's been an issue. I did love Howard's prayer, though. I'm trying to think of the word. Someone flipped a mattress off a bed. Was it Teresa Jujiche? Someone flipped her mattress over. Okay, can I just tell you this? I think it's Arian. When all these

people cry this much, they're really stupid, but it really makes for good TV because more tears, the better. Why are we watching this show? This show's so stupid. Why are we watching this show and then talking about it for an hour and writing recaps and making videos? There's nothing else good on TV right now except for the shit on Bravo.

So let me ask you guys this. This show is stupid. What do you think is going to happen to the moving company now? What is going to happen with Howard, Spencer, and Jeremy? It's done. Moving company. They're over. It's done.

Okay, but what I'm getting at, okay, that's not the responses I was looking for. I was looking for, first of all, Ben to hit mute on the TV set, and then... Fine. It's so good all of a sudden. Okay, but do you guys think that Jeremy is going to get pissed at Spencer

and Howard or not? Yes, and it'll be fantastic. I think Jeremy and Arian are going to go crazy, and I'm sure Arian is the one who flipped the mattress. Go on. So do you not think that Jeremy is smart enough to keep his cool and align himself with the guys again, or will he just now have to sail down a shitty river

with Aaron and Gina Marie? Shitty river. Shitty river, shitty river. Shitty river. That shitty river, ititty river. That shitty river. It just keeps shitting. It won't stop quitting. I don't know anything about musicals except for in high school,

I did the props for Show Boat, so I know that. And you know what? This is so messed up because we're talking about race relations. I made cotton bales. Oh, no! For Showboat. Those jimmies so much.

Sprinkles. Just because. You guys, that's what we call a callback. And that means it's time to wrap up the podcast. Yes, I agree. So you guys can find us at obviously, if you're watching YouTube right now, you can find us on YouTube.com

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And you can find him on Instagram at bsideblog. And you can find him on Vine at bsideblog. I'm Ronnie. My website is Trash Talk TV. You can find me on Instagram at Trash Talk TV. And I think that's all I'll play today. I think that Ben should take an Instagram photo of us right now and post it. Wait, okay, everyone get ready.

Ready? Yeah, how do you do it? Wait, no, don't do it yet. Okay, now do it. Wait, wait, I think we can do it actually from, never mind. Did Ronnie just leave? I think he did. No!

No, what happened? You're missing. Something Ben did, it said Ben captured something, and I pressed something, and now I'm just a, I am a Ben face, though. All right, let's wrap this up. Bye, everyone. Bye.

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