Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Apple iPhone 14 Event and Apple Watch Ultra!

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

There's a lot to talk about this week! Marques and Andrew got to record in Apple's podcast space while on campus. They took the opportunity to use it and talked about all the new Apple products that were announced. They go over all the details of the new iPhones, AirPods Pro, Apple Watch Series 8, and of course, the Apple Watch Ultra. Time to dive in!* Links: Apple iPhone 14/14 Pro Impressions: https://bit.ly/iPhone14Impressions Apple Watch Pro Impressions: https://bit.ly/AppleWatchProImpressions Studio reaction video: https://bit.ly/studioRxnsSept22 Twitters: https://twitter.com/wvfrm https://twitter.com/mkbhd https://twitter.com/andymanganelli https://twitter.com/adamlukas17 https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. *Get it?...TIME... to DIVE in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're coming at you from a different place You can probably tell if you're if you're listening to audio only it might sound a little different But if you're looking at the video, it clearly looks a little different just a 10 Yeah, we are in Apple Park because this week Apple has an event and we typically record on Wednesdays And we figured it would be ideal if we just stayed here and record the podcast here. Lucky for us, they have a podcast studio. Yeah, and what we just found out today. So Justine and Renee did a podcast episode for WWDC.

And I thought that was just going to be some permanent studio they had here. But this looks different, if anyone noticed that. Looks like we're in space a little bit. A little bit, yeah. But they recreate this for different events. And I'm just like here kind of awestruck in in what we're sitting in so um i hope if you're watching on video you appreciate all of this it's kind of intense for me i'm used to being like holed up in our little podcast studio it's nice to change i think we we do want to shoot in different spaces sometimes so we're in the apple spaceship

officially yeah i think last apple event we did a live podcast it was in a hotel room so this is far far better but like we did that one episode in the what car were we in we did it in your uh in my car yeah yeah so i think that's that's a fun thing we'll do it this sounds better than that i think it'll sound better okay well we got a bunch of stuff to talk about they did their classic uh september keynote which was it was a screening of an event, so they recorded it. It had all the cool transitions and animations that we're so used to. We all got to watch it in the theater, and then we got to play with the stuff.

So there is a new iPhone lineup, a new watch lineup, and some new AirPods. Yeah. What do you think we should talk about first? Can I first talk about how this is my first time in Steveve jobs oh yeah yeah well how is it what is your impressions because i maybe i'm a little jaded at this point yeah i've been in the top part i've never been in actual theater right really cool i honestly think my favorite part is that all the handrails are like carved into the marble of the staircases which is just like one of those little things that you notice that is just like on another level.

Architecture nerds would have a lot of fun on this campus. But yeah, it was really cool. I got to witness my first live good morning. Good morning. We're so glad you could join us. Which is like bucket list check right now. So I'm pretty amped about that, but it was super fun. Really glad to be here. And we were rewarded with some pretty cool things. Let's just start with AirPods right off the bat. Okay. I'll start with the, with the smaller updates. So AirPods pro new AirPods pro. Yes. $249 wireless noise canceling earbuds. We've seen this before. There are some updates to the buds themselves. I think the bigger update is to the case. Actually. I really liked the new case, but for the buds, I have my notes

here because I was writing furiously while I was tweeting the entire event you probably saw my tweets but let's see airpods because this is the uh the update we got here new h2 chip which will enable new adaptive transparency mode now i've talked about transparency mode on airpods before being really good this new adapter transparency mode samples 48,000 times per second and can identify spikes in outside volume and actually cancel those out. So it has still letting in sound from like your normal environment. But if you walk past the construction zone, it might cancel the jackhammer out while you walk by. I thought that was really interesting, kind of like a hybrid between both of them because transparency mode is awesome

because you want to be aware of people around you and maybe more important noises but you don't always want to hear the like high decibel spikes like potentially ear damage like eardrum damaging noises so being able to eliminate that while in keel still having transparency mode for that is really really neat um they also said they have an improved noise cancellation two times the amount of cancellation versus original AirPods Pro. I think that two times number, you're gonna notice as kind of a theme over the event. I feel like there's a lot of things

that are twice as good as previous. You'll see that through a little faster, or a little more. But we also have touch control on the stem, 33% increased battery life. You mentioned the case. I really like the lanyard. The case is sick. Yeah, the case is really nice. So so the case they added a little lanyard thing on the side very uh

small touch a lot of them have like little things like that already the sony's uh have that already but it's nice because this is the thing i think is they realize people lose not just individual earpods but they lose the case all the time and all the changes to the case are so that you are less likely to lose the case so you can put a lanyard on it finally there's also now a speaker on the bottom of the case so that it can play a sound and you can find it more easily so if you're in find my mode you're doing the sort of location thing where it shows you exactly where to find it uh that's helpful but obviously having a sound playing from it super good so you're less likely to lose the case now there's also a little magsafe compatibility it'll snap onto the magsafe charger yes it's great better

case so that's the airpods update it's pretty small this is the type of thing where like i kind of just have to try it to use it and figure out how good it is they should have a six hour claimed battery life from one charge which is 33 more than the original airpods pro and then 30 hours total of listening as you continue to charge it up through the case um but there's really no other huge changes not like they added usbc or did anything crazy like this is still very much normal looking airpods for sure i do agree i think it's going to be something we need to test which we didn't get to do a whole lot of today um they made a lot of claims saying that it does sound much better there's lower

distortion on drivers yeah stuff like that so it's hard to tell that in a i really appreciated though in the event the um the transitions of the person who is showing it off going through like the subway to the construction site they walk out of like the subway to the construction site it's like the kind those transitions are what every other event like live event we've seen thrive like would like to be and isn't instead you have like carl pay walking out of a room into another room of nothing that just looks dumb i had a thought when i was watching the keynote i had this thought and i tweeted it the thought was jesus the audio is so good where are the microphones and i'm watching this and i'm like maybe they're recording the voiceovers after.

Maybe this is such a big production because every single person has to then record their lines over again to dub over what they were talking about. And I tweeted it. And then I had someone on Apple tell me, nope, it's all real. It's all real. It's all real lines. There are recording in those crazy environments. I mean, there's obviously incredible situational control where they can make sure everything sounds perfect, but it does sound kind of perfect out there. It feels like magic. It's like AI is what I'm assuming it is. I don't really know. But yeah, I think that's all we really have for AirPods Pro. Maybe let's take a quick jump into like one of the

Apple Watches and then we'll take a break and check out the rest of the Apple watches, maybe SC since that's the smaller update. Sure. Okay. So Apple watch lineup has, there's, there's three new watches. Yes. Apple watch SE, Apple watch series eight, and then Apple watch ultra. So the way the lineup was before it was Apple watch series seven. And then they kept around the previous generations. Like the Apple watch series three had to stay around to be the cheap one. And they also had had the se so now the se is the entry level one and that's coming in at let me double check before i say it i believe it's 249 for gps okay 299 for cellular okay so it's at the bottom of the lineup but it's going to be better than the series 3 in pretty much every way bigger screen better updated design it has the new s8 sip new sensors so there's a new

temperature sensor in there there's a new gyroscope is that in the se yeah the temperature one yeah they mentioned that yeah so the new baseline to the apple watch lineup is is better this is this is they mentioned it i think kind of like the ideal watch to get you an ecosystem for like maybe a kid that's or a family watch i think as a family like and you don't want to spend as much as a kid being able to have that was still emergency sos and like crack crash crash detection and stuff like that being able to track your kids and everything if you're sending them off i know the my first cell phone was because i was on the baseball team and my mom wanted me to have some way to be able to contact emergency services or

her so with this you have a cheaper version of being able to, you could put limited contacts in it and you could also do like emergency contact. So it feels like a great thing to send a kid off to, to school or something like that. My first, my first phone is a much nerdier reason. I was going off to take summer school classes at a college. Nice. Just math stuff. That's awesome. I got a flip phone out of it. So that was nice. Um, you want to talk about crash detection? That was the one. Here's the thing. There's no way I'm going to be able to test crash detection. I thought it was our next briefing. I haven't told you that. I don't want to test crash detection. Okay. So there's a new

pair of sensors in the Apple watches, all of them that are number one, a high G force sensing accelerometer and number two, an updated, more precise gyroscope. And one of the things they've enabled in the software and watchOS 9 is crash detection. Literally they've already had fall detection. Like if you fall off a ladder or you fall down the stairs, obviously elderly people will be able to notice that it's saying, Hey, do you want to call SOS call 911? Things like that. Now, uh, if you're in a carOS call 911? Things like that. Now, uh, if you're in a car crash and you're the only one in the crash and you have your watch on you, you can call SOS from there, or actually it'll automatically call if you don't as soon as

crash because it's since the crash. Cool. I'm not going to test that. No, I trust it. I just trust it. I did find it interesting that they said a majority of crashes happen with single driver in rural areas. So where that would be super important. Um, yeah. I mean, even if it's not just a single driver, if the crash is bad enough, there's a good chance neither of them are able to contact emergency services. So it basically pops up, says, uh, emergency SOS. If you were in a, like it's, we sensed that you were in a crash, uh, swipe to ignore, or if they don't see anything in there, or you can just call it straight from that. Um, I think that's super important. We've seen a lot of things with Apple watch and just Apple in general is like safety is a huge priority and they do a lot of really, really fun and good and important safety measurements. That was the

opening. Uh, I was going to say monologue, but it was the opening scene for the watch was a bunch of different situations where the Apple watch in an edge case basically saved a life just because it has these monitoring features and it was able to do that, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Bear in your kitchen. You've got an Apple watch. Exactly. Good to go. One thought that came through my head, which is probably an unreasonable thought, but I thought it anyway, is, is there ever going to be an accidental trigger for crash mode? Cause you know how you like run up the stairs or something and then your watch is like, Hey, are you working out? Would you like to start a workout? And you're like, no, but I am kind of doing a lot right now.

Sometimes, uh, sometimes you jump and land and your watch thinks you fell. That happens to me. Does it? Sometimes. Well, I don't know if it's going to happen, but will this ever happen where someone does something so insane that it thinks they crashed? I hope not. So a good question that I didn't see in there is when that notification comes up, is it going to vibrate or buzz your hand or something? So you know that that's up? Cause then I don't see it happening because you're in that scenario. It thinks you crashed,

you get the buzz and look, and then you can ignore it. Right, you can hit, I'm okay. But if not, or you just happen to miss it because you're super distracted or something, then maybe, but I see that as being a pretty not likely scenario. It's probably a lot of G-forces and a lot of sensors going into going, ah, this is a car crash. It was a lot that happened. Yeah.

Do you think anybody is going to do a YouTube video of I tested the Apple Watch crash test? Yes. 100%. I think there will be a YouTube video. There will to do a YouTube video of I tested the Apple Watch crash test? Yes. 100%. I think there will be a YouTube video. It will not be a studio video. It won't be. It won't be.

Yes. All right. Let's take a quick break. Let's come back, talk the rest of the watches and the phones. Also, quick mention. We normally do trivia right here. We are going to save all of it for the end. We have some recorded things, but we have limited time here and we just want to make

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Let's hurry this part up, yeah. Because I want to hear your thoughts on this too. So the Apple Watch Series 8 is very similar to the Apple Watch Series 7. It's in the same case. It's a very similar design, same size, and same price, $399 for GPS, $499 for cellular. But there are some small new things that are changed, which is nice.

Uh, it has the new temperature sensors. Yeah. Uh, it does use those temperature sensors along with a bunch of other information for advanced cycle tracking. So women who need to track that sort of stuff, obviously retroactive ovulation estimates, things like that. That's new to the Apple watch. And most importantly, there's Apple and privacy

and those things being encrypted and super private for people that are tracking those things, which I think is fantastic. There is the two new motion sensors I mentioned earlier for crash detection. And then there is a new low power mode. So the watch currently has the same quoted 18 hour battery life,

but there's a new low power mode that disables some things like always on display and auto workout detection. And that can get you a longer battery life. I kind of do that anyway when I know I want to save battery. Yeah. Like I put it in theater mode right now. My watch is off because it's in theater mode and it doesn't have the always on display going, but it'll have a mode where it just does a bunch of things smartly to save you

battery. Yeah, I do. It says up to 36 hours of battery life on a full charge with that um low power mode but it still is giving you a lot of like you still can activity track you still can do a lot of normal things but it's just finding those more things that always need to be constantly like in tune like auto activity tracking um which it feels like you're not losing that much out of it but getting extended battery life we all know how much i love the battery life on the Apple watch. So I'm hoping this does increase it. And what's cool about that is it's available on the series for anything over

series four, as long as it has watchOS 9. So that is coming to other watch models. So they're saying 36 hours right now, the way I use the Apple watch, I get a day and a half of use out of the Apple watch, which is my 36 36 hours so if they're saying the normal battery life is 18 hours and then the low power mode battery life is 36 hours then it's roughly doubling the battery life if you just leave it in low power mode all the time hopefully i want you to test it i want you to bring it to a tournament with no charger and i want you to put it on low power mode and see if you can get home sunday night or monday morning that's a legit test i would really like two full days two and a half days okay i will do that that's a real test i will run okay all right well that's the apple

watch series 8 it's going to look very similar but we then got a new watch added to the top let's just do colors and price real quick and then we'll i know you're excited to get to uh sorry yes but let's do um midnight starlight silver red in aluminum and uh silver gold and graphite i have for stainless i think that's all the same as last year it might be i'm not 100 sure sounds familiar but 399 for gps 499 for cellular also hopefully we have all the information here we have literally gone from the event to shooting to like a 10 minute lunch to shooting some more to write into here so we have been cleaning this all up as we go i haven't stopped moving since no we have not i'm very excited to sleep tonight all right ultra ultra ultra time first off the name not what we expected okay so they said the name ultra on stage

and i i was sort of like taking my notes and i already started writing apple watch pro i was just like i was ready for the apple watch pro info. And then, uh, they said ultra and I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. That's, that's kind of the name we use for a lot of companies, highest end, most extreme things. I mean, galaxy S 22 ultra, how many other ultra products do we know about? So this is fine. It's fine. It's ultra. It it's different we did mention how like lg potentially had a trademark on watch pro but i didn't think that would affect it because see watch series 8 pro we thought it would be but it could have also been watch max so watch ultra was just i heard a couple gasps in the audience like oh i mean they already have an ultra the m1 ultra true so it's like it's

it's above pro ultra is above pro in that lineup. So maybe this is even better than pro. It is what it is. Anyway. Okay. Here's what it is. The, the way they introed it, which I think is probably the most important is it's a watch for exploration, adventure, and endurance. So when you picture an Apple watch for exploration and adventure and endurance, you picture a thicker titanium, durable, flat Apple Watch with a much larger battery and more features. And that's what it is. That's what it is. I keep going back and forth between, man, this watch is really big.

And man, this watch is really small for what it is because there are some Garmin watches, right? I'm looking at, I'm thinking about the really big, the Garmin watches, the rubberized military shock resistant, all these gigantic watches that look hilarious on my wrist. Like I don't have a very big wrist and those watches look ridiculous.

And so this Apple watch looks small compared to those. It still looks huge. You could tell the people in the event that had it on before they even like really announced it. And it was just a chunk on your wrist. It's huge compared to the watch i'm wearing now so okay all the details i'll just go down the specs and we have some reactions to these but it is a flat sapphire crystal display instead of like curving over the edges that's a plus for

durability it is their biggest brightest display it's a 49 millimeter case and it'll do up to 2000 nits of brightness which is pretty sick that actually matches the phone that we're going to talk about in a second uh but you can use literally an all white screen as a flashlight. It's that bright. That's pretty cool. And then if you were just thinking, all right, I want to make a more ruggedized Apple watch. What would I do? All of those little things that you'd picture like bulking up, uh, the digital crown, adding a sort of like a crown guard, making the buttons protrude more so you can hit them with gloves on, having a second set of speakers that are larger that can go up to 86 decibels for a siren

in an SOS situation. All these things, they did all of it. And so now you end up with a watch that is thicker on your wrist, but also has more room inside for a battery. And so the last spec, which is the battery life, is 36 hours of battery life, 60 hours with the new battery optimization setting coming later this fall. I'm very interested to see what that is.

So 36 hours battery life. Yeah. If you think about it, how you say 18 hours is a day and a half. So 36 hours feels like it should be maybe a little longer than that, maybe underestimating. I'm going to say if this is double, 36 hours, then it should last me three days. That would be awesome. Because it's one and a half now, so three days. It's still, I would like to see how it compares to the Galaxy Watch 5 Pro.

Yeah. Because both of those were watches that I felt had very mediocre battery life beforehand compared to like a Garmin, which can have like eight days of battery life that I've experienced and it's phenomenal. Um, so both of those, we haven't fully tested the watch five pro yet, and now we're going to be testing the ultra and hopefully both of those are going over two days. I'm hoping that over two days, including sleep tracking and stuff, entire weekend is it must last a weekend. I think it has to last a weekend. Um, but then these, the 60 hours of with the battery optimization, they didn't say much about it.

It's coming later this fall, they said. I'm interested to see what it is, if it's similar to this low power mode. The whole thing about it is a lot of these new features gives you all these crazy, like, the compass on it is wild. It has waypoints you can add with the button on the side. Yeah, I'm going to get into it. Yeah, they did a bunch of stuff with the hardware hardware but they also did a bunch of stuff on top which is number one the the the faces that you mentioned it has specific new wave point watch faces with compass built in and all this cool stuff very cool it also has specific new watch bands that

are launching with it there are three new bands they're so good this is i swear this is what's going to sell you on the the watch is just the bands that are sick you don. There are three new bands. They're so good. This is, I swear, this is what's going to sell you on the watch is just the bands that are sick. It's not good enough. You don't even have to, by the way, the bands, you can buy them separately. They fit on other Apple watches.

We tested the, because it's 49 millimeters, it's much bigger than say like the 44 millimeter SE, which I took the band off of all of the ultras that we saw in the shooting area and put it on the 44. It fits. There's a very, very little, I mean, like if you put a macro lens up to it, you could see there's a little bit of overlap.

You will never notice it on your wrist. You can 100% use these bands on any watch that you have. And let's see, it's the Alpine, it's the Trail, and then the other like underwater one. Ocean Band. Ocean Band. Okay. alpine it's the trail and then the other like underwater one ocean band ocean band okay yeah the trail is the greatest smart smart watch band i've seen on any watch smart watch ever it is so we've seen a lot of bands it's everything that i love i've talked multiple times about liking the

solo loop because when i'm typing i hate anything that's like a hard piece of plastic or metal which most watches have that my wrist is sitting on. And when I'm climbing, that happens a lot. Also, this is elastic. Velcro has a really nice soft like nylon pull tab. It is perfect. It's thin. I love it.

It's durable. It's ultra comfortable. I was just wearing it in the shooting scenario for like a while for absolutely no reason. Just keeping it on. It was great. The Alpine one is also really cool that does have like a metal hook but it has a bunch of really cool loops around the whole the whole watch band and then you can just hook it in and uh adjust it whenever you want for high speed water sports no that's the ocean band yeah oh that's what i thought you said no that's

the like bubbly one with uh yeah that one was fine i'm not that into that one but yeah um maybe for scuba diving which they mentioned a lot of stuff about this watch and scuba diving i have literally zero experience when it comes to that so hopefully somebody out there can be like a scuba dive that seemed cool this is how i think they designed this watch they went to a bunch of athletes in a bunch of extreme sports and said do you use the apple watch and the ones that said i wanted to but i can't it can't actually keep up with me they talked to those people and added all the features they cared about so somewhere there were some divers who were like yeah the apple watch it is water resistant but i dive down to 70 80 90 feet and the watch isn't rated for that so then they made the watch rated for wr 100 water resistance

now it'll go down to 100 feet now there's a dive app that'll measure how fast you're going down and it'll measure the water temperature and how fast you need to come up to still be okay. All this stuff. They talk to those divers. Then they talk to people who run marathons. I think Adam did this. Adam, if you're editing this, maybe you can add a little, a little text above my head or something, but I think that the watch dies before the end of a marathon. I actually had a really fun conversation with, um, his channel is called hella good.

He's, um, the runner who ran across the United States. And at the end with Casey, he's here at the event. I think he's super excited for this ultra. He's wild. He does some really cool marathons or like a hundred mile races,

stuff like that. He said his Apple watch usually dies. Yeah. I'm sure he's excited for this because he loves what we have always said. He loves the motivation and the streaks that you get from it, but he generally wears, he said four watches when he's testing stuff. Yeah. Um, highly suggest going to his channel. I think whatever we do on the Apple watch ultra, his channel is going to have the really intense stuff that we'll probably never figure out. But, um, he was a super nice guy and I cannot wait to see what he thinks about this watch because he's tested a lot in scenarios that i could

never dream of accomplishing so they definitely talked to people like him yeah and those people said i can't use this watch because the battery doesn't last long enough for gps tracking for five straight hours then they went on to add enough battery life to do an Ironman, which is like a, what is it? A two mile swim, a hundred mile bike ride, and then a marathon GPS tracking and heart rate tracking the entire time. And they said that on stage and I was like, Oh, so you listened to those people. Perfect. That's what they did with this watch. It seems like, I think we need to make Adam do an Ironman. Adam is going to be doing an Ironman to be testing the battery life of the Apple watch ultra. He'll have fun hearing this one.

He gets all the files to edit later tonight. He's going to do it. Dual frequency GPS for higher accuracy and better accuracy in more challenging environments. Again, it was a specific call out to like, if you run the Chicago Marathon, which is in a city with a bunch of skyscrapers blocking your view of the sky, you had trouble with GPS tracking for your run. This will solve that. I assume they're correct about that. I haven't run that marathon myself, but Adam's gonna run that too to test that.

We love Adam so much. Adam's the best. So this watch will be $799. When we were watching the keynote, we were trying to guess what the price would be. I said $899. All the rumors were around $1, the price would be i said 899 all the rumors were around a thousand and i just said i just my prediction for this is hopefully not a thousand dollars so 800 i think is

reasonable there are a lot of garments out there some of the big running watches that are right around there 699 799 so i think it's in a fair spot i think people who are i've kind of been calling it like the gopro smartwatches because it has all these incredible, really cool, super intense things that all of us think we do, but don't actually do kind of like when you buy a GoPro and then never actually use it. So I think it'll still, uh, like work for everyday life and just increase battery life. But I think there are going to be some people out there who are like, yeah, I've got night vision mode and like all this crazy stuff. And I'm just like walking around my local park. It is interesting.

Okay. So a bunch of people at the event asked me, Oh, Marquez, you're getting the, the watch ultra, right? And I'm not sure, like, I'm really not sure. So here's why I like this watch and it is small. And when I play, actually, I wear the watch on my left wrist because I don't like having a whole bunch of stuff on my throwing wrist, i play ultimate i'm throwing with my right hand um the titanium watch is lighter than you'd think it was surprisingly light so i was worried like oh man this is gonna be heavy like i do want all the extra features but i don't want a huge heavy watch on my wrist all the time but it's lighter than you think so i think i'd be okay with the weight but it is still bigger and thicker and i'm already like on the edge of like how much computer on my wrist can i tolerate and i don't know if in everyday life that isn't extreme sports i would

want to have this huge computer on my wrist thing like i can still dress up i wore it to the met gala remember like i can still dress up and Apple watch not to flex, but like, it's fine. You can wear it in like normal places and people don't look at it twice. Uh, would you wear a Garmin to a nice dinner? I don't really think people want to do that. So I don't know.

To each their own, I guess. I really don't want two watches. It is chunky. It's, it's a big watch. Um, I don't know.

I can imagine. I don't know if I would play ultimate with it. That's a lot of watch, like hanging around, like swinging at people. Um, I don't know. I can imagine. I don't know if I would play ultimate with it. That's a lot of watch, like hanging around, like swinging at people. Um, I would golf in it easy. Yeah. Cause I'd wear it on the left wrist and I'd have the GPS tracking going the whole time. And it would be great. I would, I mean, I would kill to take it hiking. There's a bunch of things that'd be great for it, but how it's like a GoPro or how often are you going to do that? You're going to have it sitting around thinking like, Oh, I'm going to go hiking every day. And then all winter you're like, I have this huge watch. Maybe it's the extra set of motivation.

You need to get out and do that and stop playing Valorant every day instead. So yes, that might be still no group. What do you still know? Group fitness competition. Um, what do you think of overall design real quick before we get off of this of the, of the ultra? Yeah. Cause basically what it is is it's a bigger it's 49 millimeter apple watch but yeah it has like you said bigger digital crown it has a like big chunk coming out of the side of it like a protrusion and then it has an extra button on the side which is orange which actually didn't even mention that okay yes i i do like the design i'll just say like on the left there is an extra button it's called the action button it is orange all of the watches of the ultras are the

same they all have cellular they all are silver titanium looking and they all have an orange action button and i kind of like that about it like it it seems to signal just the way it looks is sort of ruggedized look but you can customize what the action button does so if you just hit the action button from your watch home screen you can start a workout with it with no countdown, just instantly start a workout, or you can have it fire up your flashlight, or you can have it fire up a different app. There's a bunch of different things that I showed in the settings

of the hands-on video. I like that about it. So I think design-wise, I think they took an Apple Watch further towards durability instead of taking a Garmin and pulling it towards Apple Watch. I think that's the right move also. Yeah. And they did have stuff like

you can do waypoint tracking with that action button. You can do markers if you're doing running. And I also do believe it had similar of the like satellite GPS stuff. So if you do get lost, you can use it to contact emergency services, which is awesome. Another thing we will not be testing. don't think so only adam needs to test just throw adam in the woods i guess because they talked to people hiking mountains and they were like uh you ever needed uh to like track your waypoints in case you're in complete whiteout

conditions and need to find base camp and you can't see there is benefit of waypoint tracking i have used it on other watches before not because i've gotten lost but sometimes when there's a lot of trail heads and if trail heads are really sharp with a lot of brush and stuff like that you can very easily just like walk straight past it wonder why you're not hitting the trailhead that you mean to hit and then i've looked back seen that i've gone past the waypoint and then realized i should double back instead of keep walking miles away from where I need to be. So you hit the action button to mark your waypoint and then you'll be able to come back to it whenever.

But yeah, I guess what we've learned from this is Adam's going to do an Ironman. He's going to hike a mountain. He's going to do a desert run in extreme heat just because it can go up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit. We got to, of course, make sure that's true about it. And all the other features will, of course, be pushing to the limits with our incredible podcast. I think Adam needs a raise. I think it's I think it's a good watch. I think it's a good watch.

It's not for everyone. It's the ultra. And that's why it's called the ultra. But it is a good watch. I like it. I don't want to try it really bad. I also want to see if I if it will get messed up climbing because I have like a perfect score of destroying watches. It's titanium, which should be okay.

And the Sapphire. Oh, are you already scratching the glass? I think it's the same glass. It's just flat instead of clear. It has like a little bit of a lip though that it might be able to protect you from. We'll see. Okay.

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So it's a new lineup this time. It is iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus,hone 14 plus iphone 14 pro and iphone 14 pro max which means no more new mini iphone although it's still being sold on apple's site for 550 dollars just a thought still there noted is it 550 it's five something anyway i'm not sure it's it's a very different lineup this is not a lineup we're used to here. And I think like while there maybe aren't as many changes on the 14 and 14 plus, besides it being a completely new product, it's really interesting to see where Apple might be going, which is how they do these launches in the future and how they're doing stuff.

Because we're jumping right into this. The first thing we saw is the A15 Bionic and the 14, which is the same chip. Yeah. Okay. So the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same A15 Bionic from last year. They have the same screen sizes, 6.1 inch and 6.7 inch, as the larger ones from last year. And they have basically the same displays, slightly higher peak brightness. They're in the same design. They're going to look basically the same displays, slightly higher peak brightness. They're in the same design.

They're going to look basically the same. They have one new chalky blue color. If you can see my shirt right now, if you're watching the video version, it's kind of like that, or you can watch the hands-on video. But it's going to look mostly the same. But the improvements are, there's three main changes I want to go over. One, connectivity. There is no more physical SIM card tray on US iPhone 14s. Only eSIM. Which to me was interesting. eSIM's fine.

eSIM works really well, especially when like upgrading between phones with eSIM or even swapping between carriers. But I wonder if that acts kind of like a little wall in the ecosystem. If I wanted to move from an iPhone to a different phone, most new phones support eSIM, but to a different phone that I'm going to be thinking about that. That's interesting. But eSIM is there. Then there is a SOS connectivity through satellite, which was cool to see. So this is another edge case that you'll hopefully never need.

But theoretically, you're in an area with no, it's actually really cool. You're in an area with no cellular connectivity. You're usually a few miles or so from a cell tower. You don't see anyone near you. There's no cell towers, but you still need to send a message. It will be able to talk to the frequencies of satellites overhead. Typically to do that, you'd need a larger radio or something bigger. You've seen a Starlink dish.

With like an extended antenna. With a big antenna. You need a clear, unobstructed view of the sky. And ideally, you're actually pointing it at a satellite. All of this is a lot. With the iPhone, there's actually UI on the iPhone 14 to help you point at a satellite. So if you have an unobstructed view of the sky it'll assist you to point at a satellite and actually get a message

sent ideally within 30 to 30 to 60 seconds maybe more ideal it's also shrinking the size of your message with the proprietary format it's doing a lot but you can still send that message with no cell connectivity and i think there were two really cool things that I liked about that and just like problems they had to solve to make sure that works. One is that, um, just in case you are, if basically if you were sending something that is a text, you're usually sending text things through there. If it is at an emergency services that can accept text messages, it'll do that. If not, they have relay centers set up that will incorporate the text message you send relay to a place through a phone call, which is really important and pretty awesome. And then also they basically have like an FAQ that will come up because they know that those

text messages take a little to send. And rather than having to ask a bunch of questions, you can input what kind of distress you are in, answer a bunch of questions and it can send it in one. So whoever you're sending it to only needs that one message so one of those features you hope you never need but it is pretty cool and it is added for iphone 14 um so that's connectivity one thing about that though they also said free for two years oh yeah which i was a little confused about i don't know if it will be a paid app later one i'm assuming it's only on 14 and future phones um yeah i don't know in terms of if it's a subscription service or anything after that i have they kind of skipped over that pretty quick yeah i have a feeling they're still figuring that out so it'll be

fear-free two years it's also launching in november in the u.s and canada only to start okay um from there we'll just stay tuned because uh not sure yet yeah in terms of being acceptable in other places other u.s and other than other than the US and Canada, it's obviously like way more than just a phone. It's like with all these relays and different ways they have to contact emergency services, there's so much logistics that they have to do. So it makes sense. It's going to take a while to roll out for everyone else.

Yeah. But really the biggest upgrade I think with this is going to be the cameras. There is a new camera system and it is a larger 12 megapixel rear facing camera, larger sensor, larger, wider max aperture. And there also is a new 12 megapixel selfie camera with autofocus. To me, and there's also sensor shift image stabilization in the main camera. To me, this is basically an iPhone 13 Pro minus the second, the third camera, and then dressed up in aluminum and minus promotion. So they, they just take the same chip, you know, the, the better cameras, all that stuff,

which is a really good phone. And one year later they can ship it in this lower price point in this aluminum body. And it's a perfectly reasonable phone for most people. So it's going to be very familiar. Same notch, same design, like we all said. That's all fine. So that's 14 and 14 plus. The benefit, as much as I wish it had 120 hertz, the benefit of having a bigger iPhone with the A15 Bionic and a 1080p 60 hertz screen, is they're saying it'll have the longest battery life

ever in an iPhone. It will definitely, I have no doubts it will be the like battery champ going forward. I mean, you already have like the iPhone as one of the like idle battery champs and then you just make it bigger and have more in it. I also really, I thought it was kind of funny and kind of appreciated it,

but mostly thought it was funny how long they took to show us what a bigger screen means and how you can see more things on a bigger screen. And it's just like, you can see more text messages. You can see more in your album. It's like, yeah, we know you can see more stuff. Yeah. You can see more stuff. It's bigger. Yeah. Well, if there's anything I know about people and screens, it's they like the bigger one if they can pick between two yeah so i think that's going to be a hit low-key um so 7.99 in september for the iphone 14 8.99 in october for the 14 plus then we got the pros okay the pros have a little bit more going on that are visually distinct

from last year's pros and not just visually it's got a new chip in size, the A16 this year on a four nanometer process, which is pretty cool. There is also a new purple color. Did you like the purple color? I really thought it was green. I'm just mad it wasn't green. We got all these green badges and we saw a lot of green hints and then we got a purple phone.

Yeah. A little sad, especially because we call it green. I actually think the space gray looks different from last year. It's darker. The rings around the cameras are darker that looks really good and the whole thing is like this dark sleek it's almost like shale gray i like i like it's way better i like it i'm gonna i'm gonna probably go for that one um but really no one's surprised that you are yeah well here i am uh same two sizes 6.1 inches and 6.7 inches but

obviously the new higher end pro displays which are a little bit brighter as well this year peak 2000 nits outdoor brightness that's i think if i'm understanding this correctly since nits are logarithmic and they said it's twice as bright as last year there should be a noticeable difference in brightness outside we'll see we'll see yeah i guess it should be better but i think the main difference here is the new camera system and the new pill cutout that has a name. What should we talk about first? Dynamic Island. Dynamic Island. All right.

Welcome to Dynamic Island. We're calling it the Dynamic Island. the dynamic island the iPhone 14 pros instead of having a normal Static Peninsula at the top have a new pill cut out for the cameras and the face ID system And they actually moved the proximity sensor underneath the display So now it'll look like a little a little oval at the top of the screen Now when I first saw this because there were rumors about it we were kind of expecting something like this yeah um i was like that's it's a whole it's a whole bunch we've seen it before like i've seen this it looks a little different neat but the name dynamic island is actually

associated with a bunch of features that they added which is interesting because when they first announced it there was like a pretty solid giggle across the audience of like 100 they put dynamic island in huge text on the screen and everyone around me went what that's the name but okay so here's what they're doing there's a bunch this actually became my favorite feature i know is there's uh there's all these little animations that extend around this pill so the pill sort of morphs and shapes so just the cutout by itself is dead pixels right that's not pixels on the screen it's cutting out around the cameras but because it's an oled you can just shut down pixels around it and so they built all these animations around it where if you have an ongoing activity a live activity uh notifications

ongoing tasks some things that are happening at the top they can show you those things in like animations around the pill yeah i think a perfect example is pretty much any audio so music or podcast it basically will show one side of the pill the pill will extend in this really really smooth animation yep one side will have like podcast cover like we had the waveform podcast up on it so the left showed our cover the right just showed a little waveform that's showing that something's playing it's such a small thing it's just a nice little playful ui touch that like if any other phone company did this we would have been all over it like oh that's smart it's annoying how good it looks it's like why didn't anyone think of this before yeah it's the epitome of apple it's like

hole punch cutouts have been around forever at this point apple does it later and they just absolutely knock it out of the closest thing we got is wallpapers i think like remember how viral all of these you know hole punch wallpapers went for like the past four years of hole punch phones we've had we've had these cool wallpaper apps which would put like like an eye around like the pill cutout or the hole punch or whatever like oh those are it's kind of cool you can like set up your home screen around it well now yeah the active ui will move around this this dynamic island i'm gonna stop calling it that because it's just yeah this this podcast will be the last time I call it dynamic Island. I think it is really cool cutout.

It's really good UI. Um, I think regular people are going to love that. I think it's going to be one of those things where you're like the people out there who don't like Apple are going to be like, it's so stupid. Stop, like stop saying this is cool.

And then you see it and it helps you like quick switch between apps. I mean, we sat there just messing with it for probably like 20 minutes. It is actually kind of low key, a task switcher for certain things. So I mentioned live activities before, like you can have things going on that just stay persistent up there. If I have a timer, for example, and music playing, all I have to do to bring up the music because it's playing in the background is just tap on that little extended part of the island.

I just tap it and it brings it up. And while it comes up, it still shows the other half, which is the timer. And if I ever want to go on the timer, I just tap that. So instead of having to swipe down and go into the timer, which is fine, it's just two clicks instead of one. It's just a one-click quick switch thing now. It's a multitasking UI. You also can hold it and get quick commands through that. If you're doing audio, you can hold it.

It'll bring up a small box towards the top of the screen in a beautiful animation again, and you can skip through songs. You can use the 15-second skip, play, pause, all those pretty easy things. I think it literally just pops up the lock screen widget without the lock screen. Pretty much, yeah, on the top.

Yeah. Anyway, I'm going to be playing with that a lot, but that's pretty cool. That's the dynamic island. There it is. I said it. Okay. But the other thing is the new cameras. And I am very interested in testing these because these are theoretically now the best cameras ever in an iPhone. I've been shooting autofocus videos on the iPhone. I want to check out the new sensor and the new stuff here, but we got three new cameras here and they're all bigger than the iPhone 13 pro. I hold them up next to each other. Oh, like physically bigger, like on the phone. Yeah. Yeah. They extend further out the back and they like, you can look at it until they're all three bigger sensors, which is cool. Um, the 48 megapixel main sensor first

megapixel bump in an iphone in like a decade i think i tweeted actually the last time they bumped up it went from 8 to 12 megapixels a long time ago and we've had 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 every year 48 megapixel main sensor it will bin and spit out normal 12 megapixel photos but obviously with a lot of detail but yes you can shoot 48 megapixel photos in pro raw so if that's the question is there a high res mode yes you switch to pro raw you'll get 48 megapixel shots which is sweet um and then there is a new uh larger ultra wide and an improved telephoto as well all this stuff i definitely want to test they say the the new larger sensor

ultra wide is three times better in low light. Takes better macros. Yeah, and I think the other two are two times better in low light, which is the theme of the event. I don't know what that means. I don't either. Two times better in low light. What is two? Two what?

I don't know. Don't question it. It's better. We'll see. We'll find out. Overall. Wait, wait. One thing I'm really excited about though

and which you mentioned shooting autofocus now is the action mode i believe it was called which was like the crazy stabilization in video that's gonna be good to try i can't wait to try that and the amount of people i saw on the event floor like jumping joanna stern and judner were just like you gotta jumping up and down trying it we did not get a shot of that, but I can't wait to test it. I have a feeling it works best in certain situations. Because again, there's new sensors in the eye. There's a new improved gyroscope and accelerometer. I believe it takes advantage of those.

But the shot that they used to demo was like a follow shot. So you're like running forward and there's a bunch of axes of stabilization needed to run forward and stabilize your motion. I think it's going to be shots like that that see the best improvement. Maybe if you imagine sort of the rig that we have on the back of the truck to like shoot car stuff, all of that micro compressed into an iPhone camera. Hopefully you can kind of see that sort of before and after.

We'll check it out. No astrophotography feature. i was very surprised by that we were we all kind of thought that was going to be the event thing i guess that's just what the stars look like two times increased low light if you did a prop bet on like will there be an astrophotography mode i would would have lost a lot of money on that. I would have guaranteed a special mode for that. Um, so far out, so far out, what does that mean now? Far out was the, was the name of the event, I guess. Far out, far out. If you're far out enough from cell service, you can use, there you go. You can get picked up as long as you're within the two, three years of satellite connectivity. That's far out. That makes sense. Okay, fair. The redesigned flash was low-key kind of amazing unless it's not actually going to be able to notice it.

It's, okay, they showed an animation and I watched the animation and it looked really cool. And then I thought again about how small the flash is and how unlikely I am to ever notice a difference. But there's different flash patterns with the nine leds built into the flash of the phone so if it recognizes that you're taking a macro with the ultra wide it'll use less of them yeah and be less harsh cool maybe i don't know i think it'll be nice for all of our parents and older generation who don't turn the flash off rather than try and teach them to not use the flash maybe it'll just be less annoying but like how many times have we seen like a ring

light on the back of a phone and we're like holy smokes that's way different and then just looks like a normal flash yeah so i'm i'm skeptical but you know that's something else they mentioned on stage um but yeah that's that's the new phone so the lineup is remember when we predicted the prices phone so the lineup is remember when we predicted the prices i think you were spot on i nailed all of them so 7.99 to start for iphone 14 then 8.99 for iphone 14 plus 9.99 for the pro 10.99 to start for the 14 pro max up to a terabyte again um if i were to pick now i would pick space gray 14 pro and i think that would be fine and i would get a terabyte because we're shooting a lot of pro res video now and my god does that eat your storage fast fast so we're sending studio video stuff back from the event from pro res and it's probably still uploading 30 40 gigs just easy drop of a hat so that is the new iphone lineup i think that's a pretty good

pretty solid lineup again it doesn't it's there's not a lot of like huge design innovation happening it's a it looks the same as last year most of the phone is very recognizable especially the base 14 nothing's folding in half nothing is like changing materials in any drastic way like these are these are iphones you know what you're getting with them, but these little refinement details, especially, and it sounds so dumb when I'm not using it, but like try the dynamic Island, look at it, use it for a little bit. And you're like, wow, this is really thought out well thought out. And I wish every phone had something like this and maybe someday they will. Who's going to copy that first? Samsung. Yeah. Yeah.

Easy. Okay. That was easy. Sneaky iPhone 13 still in the lineup, I felt is worth mentioning. You can still buy a 13 or a 13 mini for, I think it's like the $500, $550 range. So that's worth noting. Obviously, it's still going to be a 60 Hertz phone. But like when you spend seven, eight, nine hundred bucks, you want the latest and greatest.

You probably just jump to the pro. But that's the lineup. I think that there it is. That's about it. I just have to say, I've constantly found myself looking at these monitors. How cool we look on this. It looks pretty good. Oh, I want to again say we appreciate being able to use this set. This is a fun way to just dump my thoughts out in uh and i couldn't write off of it yeah

yeah um do we want to do trivia do we want to attempt it do you have the files i think so what i understand is they sent us video files yeah i'm nervous of what this is if you have them already it's 10 seconds it. It's 10 seconds. I already opened it, and it's Elle's playing ping pong. So do you want to attempt? Maybe take one earphone off a little bit so you can hear this. Yeah, I got transparency. Let's just go. We only have a few minutes left here.

Let's just answer. First one to answer it, or we both just give up pretty quick. Okay. Because we got to wrap this up pretty soon. Let's try it. Let's attempt this. Let's hear it. give up pretty quick because we got to wrap this up pretty soon let's try it let's attempt this let's hear it released in september of 1981 the apple profile was a hard drive

oh that was the answer i played the answer instead of the question i knew that was gonna i knew i was gonna do that i could go wrong here is if we just played the answer first instead of the question. Okay, cool. We're just going to do the second trivia question then because I completely messed that up. That's hilarious. I think I'll get a negative point on our running score. That was really embarrassing and there's way too many people watching this happening right now. Were the files labeled?

I literally clicked trivia answers, but there's a lot going on right now. Okay, that's minus one. Okay, cool. New question. This is starting with David at his computer looking at Craig looking at the MacBook Air. Perfect. The Apple A16 Bionic and the new iPhone 14 Pro includes almost 16 billion transistors, but what was the component that the transistor replaced. The transistor. I'm still so embarrassed I played the answer,

so I don't know what the answer is. This is one of those things where, like, if you know a lot of computer history, you probably already have answered this out loud. And you're probably driving your car right now, yelling it to yourself, wondering why. We don't know the answer. Transistor. Do you have any idea?

No, I'm thinking it's just a tube. Can we ask the answer um transistor you have any idea no i'm thinking it's just a tube can we ask the audience audience does anyone know the answer we've got for those of you who don't know there are people in the dark like in the on the outsides of this who are actually helping us with this camera work does anybody know the answer to this question i guarantee somebody knows it vacuum tube it's a vacuum tube it's a tube i was right let's see the uh let me click the answers let's hear the answer i said it's some kind of tube because remember cameras used to be tubes by the way yes okay what's the answer the component that the transistor replaced was the vacuum tube good job we're gonna need to adjust our scoreboard to have um we have to yeah we'll have to make sure

we know who got that from the shadows a vacuum tube was a correct answer that is uh that is incredible yes so the new four nanometer chip has is it now 16 billion transistors just something i can't even visualize that but here we are in 2022 with uh billions and billions of transistors instead of vacuum tubes very nice i like that well i think that's about it for this episode that's been a fun one i'm gonna close my laptop thank you uh for everyone for watching this episode and for watching the clips or for for subscribing to the channel of course you're here for our hands-on and impressions so go ahead and watch those videos as well on the main channels but that's been it i think uh when you see us next week we'll be in a different place again we will we'll be at another apple they're actually going to build a new set for us for sure

with a different background they're actually gonna make this screen look like our old background and then rip it and then craig burst through it Yeah. Okay. It's too easy. Cool. All right. Well, anyway, catch you guys next week. See you later. Peace. Waveform was produced by Adam Molina, Ellis Roven, and the wonderful Apple crew that let us use this space today. We're also a partner with Vox Media Podcast Network and our intro outro music was created by Vein Sil. Take care.