Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Apple's New iPad Pro & Top-Rated Quarantine Content to Keep You Entertained!

Episode Date: March 20, 2020

On this episode of Waveform we provide updates about how we're handling the COVID-19 pandemic, how we're helping to flatten the curve, and how you, too, can help by practicing social distancing at home. We then dive into some rare tech news as of late: Apple is releasing a brand-new Macbook Air and iPad Pro! Finally, to wrap it all up, we list off a bunch of amazing content for you to consume while everyone is staying home and self-quarantining! We're all in this together, folks. Stay safe and be well. Links (lots of links!): Dave Promo Code: Dave.com/WAVE https://twitter.com/wvfrm https://twitter.com/mkbhd https://twitter.com/andymanganelli https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ shop.mkbhd.com MKBHD Escobar Fold: http://bit.ly/2Qwr0bv Austin Evans XBox: http://bit.ly/2xbCEla Dave2D: http://bit.ly/2Wrz2WX iPad Pro Magic Keyboard: http://bit.ly/3937tFZ Doug Demuro Corvette: http://bit.ly/2U0N14l Internet Shaquille Crispy Potatoes: http://bit.ly/2xVffFj Reply All Long Distance: http://bit.ly/399AVuh Reply All Case of the Missing Hit: http://bit.ly/2QrxXdJ Netflix Explained Series: http://bit.ly/2Wqm9fF Tangle: Isaac Saul Newsletter: http://bit.ly/2wjWUkw John Oliver Last Week Tonight (ADULT LANGUAGE): http://bit.ly/2IZt2gb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The only thing not yet canceled in 2020. Still going strong. We're your hosts. I'm Marques Brownlee. And I'm Andrew Manganielli. And that's the best I could come up with for the intro. Yeah, right. We asked you guys for some new intros and we got some on Twitter. And I appreciate the creativity, but hoof saying them out loud was not great they all kind of read like the cringy kind of one that we were joking about avoiding like let's ride that wave yeah i

feel like i can only do that if i do the like hang 10 symbols like but you guys can't see that so we'll just mix it up we'll see how it goes yeah if we can land on something but yeah reading a lot of those out loud it's just like oh man i don't know if i can pull myself to doing that every other week we'll find one yeah um so obviously we're in a bit of a a weird situation that's probably with a lot of people but uh the podcast we're able to this is your hashtag quarantine content i feel like if we're all staying home We might as well come together to listen to a lot of podcasts and and check out I think online videos are another great thing. Yeah, check out but We are in a studio to record the podcast but in general we are socially isolated

We're a healthy distance from each other. Yeah, we are Which is these Mike arms go pretty far? But in general, we are socially isolated. We're a healthy distance from each other. Yeah, we are right now. These mic arms go pretty far. So I would say we've got about a meter between us staying up to CDC rules. The message I'm passing along, which I already did in the latest Q&A video, is just the same thing the CDC is saying, the same thing you've heard probably a million times on Twitter.

Be responsible, stay at home, wash your hands, and take care of yourself to take care of others. You might not be the one who's going to get sick or come down with symptoms, but preventing the spread of it and flattening the curve is the whole point of everything we're doing with social distancing. So just passing along that message, if you haven't already heard it, definitely adhere to it and pay attention to what your governor's tweeting, basically. Yeah, pretty much the science. Pay attention to the science of what people are telling you to do and we are at the channel now we're going to try and put out as much content as possible but we are this week marquez told us to stay home he's been in the studio but he's been in by himself yeah uh our

building is not fully shut down but pretty much shut down there's almost no one here yeah um i came in today just to record this but we're we're talking about also potentially finding ways of recording stuff at home and and ways that we can still give you guys content while being responsible yeah pretty much everything that has been going on in the background is sort of pausing like the studio build the construction that's sort of slowing down to a pause and the content on the channel as much as we want to make great videos for you like hashtag quarantine content we want to make awesome stuff but it'll probably just be me solo so the videos will take a little bit of a maybe not a dip but they'll just be less uh glorious third person shots and more of just us sharing

new tech yeah back to your old dorm room yeah which is not a bad thing those are fun to make bring the cheerios out. I might just do some throwback type of video style. Anyway, what we did have is a bunch of stuff from the last week, which we can go over because there was a good amount of interesting stuff. Yeah, it was a weird week of some of the

releases. Specifically the Escobar folder. We might as well start with that. Yeah, let's start with it. It's the best. Okay, Escobar fold. We finally did a video about it, and really it was more of an expose, if you want to call it that. There was a little bit of digging, a little bit of investigative fun to eventually put it all together in one place. It's weird to say investigative because it feels like when you saw everything about this,

it was so obvious, but we did see some stuff coming out that didn't seem to mention a lot of the right weird stuff behind it it was it's a fascinating phone in the sense of like what the hell's going on yeah like it's it basically if you haven't seen that video it's it's like 12 minutes long or whatever but go ahead go watch it we go over what the escobar fold is which is it's a galaxy fold with a sticker on it, and the whole why should we even pay attention to it, what's their strategy, is it a scam, that whole explained half of the video. So that's basically what we're talking about. Yeah, and I think a lot of people are actually extremely worried about us

because of it. Oh, I'm fine. Because we're all okay. I think it was the chief of assassinations in their bio that was probably giving people reason to worry. And I totally understand that, but that person, that's Pablo Escobar's brother and he's in his like 80s or 90s or something. We're all pretty sure he has almost nothing to do with this actual organization.

Is that what you want to call it company at whatever yeah like that the guy olaf or whatever his name is is using that as just a name notoriety to get some some word out there it was also interesting it came with a book like a legitimate book called what was it called how i made billions selling coke and now smart and now my phones are going to beat apple and kill apple and samsung what the title alone was enough to make me shake my head like yeah i think legitimately everyone in the studio who's seen it has flipped through it just assuming all the words were just fake and like that uh what's the name of that text that on websites just to show you oh just the lore? Oh, just the lorem ipsum over and over again?

Yeah. Maybe I should read it. Yeah, you've got some time. I do have some time now. Quarantine content. Going to read that Escobar book. No, we're good. You don't have to worry about me being assassinated because of exposing their scam.

But if you were worried, it is a scam. Just say no. It's definitely a scam. And also, for everyone sending us emails, we're not selling the phone. I got a shocking amount of emails from people like our business account has as well yeah let me let me buy that escobar fold off you got just don't like i'm not gonna sell the one i have which is by the way i think people want it just because they think they can get it for 400 for me uh just get a fold if you want one don't get a fold if you don't need a fold.

Yeah, I get people are trying to get it for cheaper. Don't buy it from the Escobar site. We've also gotten tweets of people like sending their money. It's wire transfers and Bitcoin or like cryptocurrency. Do not give them any money. If there is ever a red flag on something that you suspect might be a scam, it's the fact that they don't accept regular credit and debit cards that you can charge back. So anyway, there you have it.

There was some other stuff this week, though, too. We had the Oppo Find X2 Pro. Had a first look at that. And that's like a weird, not a weird phone, but they did some things that put it on the radar for me right after I reviewed the Galaxy S20 Ultra. They one-upped it in a couple of ways. And I've always said forever, Samsung's got the best displays in their flagship phones that came from the Galaxy Note and from the Galaxy S.

And that I happen to say again for the Galaxy S20 Ultra, huge high-res 120-hertz display. res 120 hertz display the uh find x2 pro will do 25 or i think it's about 3k by 1440 and 120 hertz at the same time okay which samsung will not do and i i tested that for a couple days while i was putting together the video and i got okay battery life you can do variable refresh rate or variable resolution but i just locked them both at the top because i was like why not not? And it was pretty cool that they could one up Samsung in that way. So that was cool to see. But it was just a first impressions video of a phone that I think caught a lot of people off guard. It was pretty cool.

You put that as your daily for a little bit, didn't you? Yeah, I had my SIM card in it for a while. I again started to get a little bit annoyed by the curved screen over the sides because you know, Samsung flattened it off and I was really pumped about that and then i had the galaxy s20 which was smaller and also had a flat screen and in between those i use this find x2 pro which had the curved screen and you you really notice it every time you pick up and use the phone yeah this is the content spills over the edges and you get a lot of it's just a different feel in the hand so i did use it for a bit but i haven't stuck with it i i was curious if people wanted to see a full review of it's just a different feel in the hand so i did use it for a bit but i haven't stuck with

it i i was curious if people wanted to see a full review of it because i still haven't reviewed the z flip and i'm still waiting i'm still waiting for my razor actually that's supposed to have shipped like a month ago now which maybe we should look back into that possibly yeah but uh a lot of things in the pipeline but we did get to see a first look at the find x2 pro and then we also reviewed a collaborator review yeah with your average consumer fellow new jersey youtuber um just before quarantine started locking us down yeah we had the galaxy s20 uh that was a fun review too it was fun that was a fun day just in general oh yeah we changed it up a little bit i think the main reasoning behind that was s20 ultra had a lot of the new features that you would see already so this is like we still wanted to look at the cheaper version but we wanted to make it a little fun because there's gonna be a lot of similarities so

judner came over he does his day in the life series which right we'll link in the show notes as well just more con we're our show notes this week is going to be full of stuff hey we just want you guys to just kill all the boredom you're doing at home. We want to give you a reason to make sure you don't go outside. But anyways, he came over. We just spent the entire day together and shot some B-roll, ate lunch, checked out the new studio, did a bunch of stuff while testing the phone. I think both of them came out pretty good.

Yeah. I like his day in the lifestyle. It's pretty sweet. you get a better idea mainly the things he's testing in his day in the life are the stuff you're curious about after a first impression which are how how well will the battery really hold up uh so it gives you sort of updates throughout the day about that and a lot of camera testing so going around the studio and of course taking photos of things it's funny when people walk around the studio they they like pick up on things that I didn't even realize were like good photo subjects. Just like, you know, the Roadster die cast models over there or just like, you know,

he parked his car next to mine in the parking lot. So it was kind of a cool photo op for those. So just a bunch of stuff to test the cameras. And that's what his video had. So you can check them both out. Yeah. And one other thing that a lot of people have been asking about was our dbrand plug in that one.

Oh, that was the best one yet. We had a lot of fun doing that. People are also like, they can't believe what we did. I mean, so if you didn't watch it, pretty much there's a quick clip. This is the most fun I've ever had in a video probably. Marquez calls for the phone,

which has the dbrand grip case on it with the new teardown skin, which is sweet. It's a collaboration with Jerry rig everything. Oh yeah. They kind of take almost a photo of the internals of the phone and then make a skin on it. So it looks like you have the clear back kind of what Zach does on his channel for real.

But instead of having to make it clear back, you actually destroy your phone yourself. Much easier. Much, much easier. But anyways, we're in the new studio. Marques calls for the phone, and I literally just toss it. How far do you think that is? That's got to be, I think it probably went at least 40 feet.

Right? Like the whole studio length is about 125, right? Yeah, over 100 feet. And I tossed it from one of the far rooms to about within like 15 feet of the back windows so yeah so a pretty good and it like i was i was kind of curious if it would like bounce and like topple and roll or if it would just slide and the way you threw it was kind of everyone was like he threw it like a frisbee i was like you don't realize how long we both yeah that's like that's how we throw things.

Yeah, exactly. That thing skidded for a while. It skidded, man. I picked it up and you know, the best part is that wasn't the only time we shot that. Oh no. We, seven or eight times probably. We started from a closer, okay. First of all, Dbrand reached out to us about doing this.

I think they wanted us to like throw it on a table or something. Yeah. And so then like, we'll one up that. Trust me. Yeah. Well, so we come in and they brought the phone over and they said we were going to throw, I hadn't heard about this. You and them had been talking about tossing it.

And then, uh, they were like, oh yeah, we're going to throw this. Right. And I was like, what? And then I was like, oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, you got to throw this phone to me and i was like i'm throwing it i was terrified i was gonna break it i like i don't know man there's i know the case is good i've actually been using the case which i really do enjoy um yeah the new buttons they've added are great but not to turn this into a hashtag ad slow down right here but like i was terrified of throwing it and we started off with a closer room maybe like 20 25 feet i threw it yeah and it survived and actually my first throw

just saying was like perfect like landed right at your feet you should perfectly i was gonna put them in the end of the video as bloopers but i didn't but you should totally put like post these the uh the alternate shots that we didn't include in the video yeah people can see i'll post on my twitter i'll post okay should i just edit them all together or should i just i'll just just one long clip of how many times you tried i'll edit them all together and i'll post them on my twitter so perfect follow me show notes show notes anyway um i tossed the first one it was like perfect it got up and it worked and i was just like i could do that better and then we're like we could do that further. So one toss of being terrified turned into me

just launching this phone across the new studio for like 20 or 25 minutes. One went a good 15 feet past me. I was like, relax, maybe take a notch off of that throw. But we had a lot of fun with it. Frisbee came into play there a little bit. I really realized how often, for people who play Frisbee, if you throw anything flat, you understand you step out. You automatically put spin on it.

Automatically, yeah. That was a lot of fun. It did work. I think the worst that happened to it was there was some dust because they're still doing a little construction down there. But I was very surprised at how well it held up. I mean, it hit the floor hard. You can hear the noise it makes when it hits the ground.

It's a big phone, man. And it's not pretty. I'm glad it survived. It made for a great little clip in there. It really did. So that was all on the Galaxy S20 review. Then last but not least was our Q&A video, which was

i'd say the beginning of quarantine content which is uh hey let's talk talk tech on twitter and just see what you guys want to know we had a bunch of cool interesting questions in there as we typically do uh and i think one of them was just like oh but the main one was really talking about like this rollable phone concept oh yeah which we talked about on the last episode and just what people think of it and got a lot of interesting comments about that wait speaking of kind of bring that watching that again so do you remember i had mentioned do i think the screen goes on the back side of the phone or not right now like looking at i looked at it again in the video it specifically looks like the way the screen folds in there is a piece over it on the

back side so are we do we not think it shows on the back anymore i don't know if everyone remembers this conversation from last time but i believe it it folds that screen underneath some material on the back so there will be no screen showing on the back okay when it's closed and then you open it and of course it's all in the front there yeah uh but again i've been talking to tcl and we're trying to see if we can make a hands-on of that concept happen so i can go in depth with that which would be pretty sweet i want to show that but uh as of right now yeah right yeah it's kind of tough to get that overseas but either way we're looking into that cool but yeah that was all yeah and speaking of that q a we we've regularly been doing the Q&As on the podcast. What we're going to do in today's episode is normally we talk about content we like here and Q&As at the end.

Since we don't have a Q&A, we're going to give you guys a ton of content we like at the end of this episode. Once again, social distancing, want to give you guys plenty of stuff to sit at home, have fun with. So stick around until the end of here and we're going to give you guys a ton of recommendations for things to keep yourself occupied with. Perfect. All right, so let's take a quick break and then we'll come back

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hands-on with the xbox it looked really cool yeah actually it looked really similar to that new nzxt case that yeah it's vertical it's vertical it looks nice i actually like that form factor a lot uh depending on where you can put it i guess if you're one of those people who has like a little slot under your tv it's. But like if it's standing on a stand somewhere or like on your TV stand, it looks really nice. Yeah, you know, those slots are all kind of designed with the same form factor in mind, right? Like a VCR, a cable box, a PS4, you know, whatever, like a PS3, an Xbox One. They're all the same shape. If you had to guess the amount of people listening to this podcast, right? The people listening right now who had a vcr growing up a vcr yeah did you

have a vcr growing i had a vcr yeah i'm 26 but i feel like if you're any younger than about 22 you probably either didn't have one or didn't know what it was never used it yeah but like i'm just thinking everything that ever connects to your TV like that is either behind it, like a Chromecast, or it's in that rectangle shape. So it's kind of interesting that they're making the Xbox much different. I know they're going really deep into having... Xbox and PlayStation now are having specs very similar to computers,

which is crazy and great and awesome but i'm surprised they haven't gone for like the really do you remember like ps2 slim like how they started getting to that really really small form factor i'm surprised we're not getting to that form factor of like stick it onto the back of your tv and that's where it is and doesn't show up anyway like i think the the main push is less about like smallness and portability and more just about like graphics and power. Yeah I think competing against the PC market. Yeah if you want like a small like a switch or something like something

where the graphics aren't as important you can always get that but I think they're trying to. I think that was Austin's whole shtick too. Half his video was like because it's a PC. Okay. Yeah like he's super hardcore on this is just a computer guys so hey show notes. check it out awesome video i think he uh i think he was pretty proud of like that entire hands-on experience i

know they were all really proud i saw jimmy i saw ken i saw them all like matt talking about it and and how pumped they were at seeing yeah and it's really cool today as we're recording this they're revealing the playstation 5 specs so that's probably also in the show notes. Just keep scrolling, guys. There's a lot down there. Lots to look forward to. Yes. Also, speaking of tech events, WWDC was finally, not canceled,

but moved to online only for Apple. So that's their big event every year. And that's typically, what, June, I think? And sometime in the summer, May or June. Is it usually pre-IO or? I think it's a little after IO. Okay, IO is usually end of May, I think. sometime in the summer May or June is it usually pre IO or I think it's a little after IO okay I was usually end of May I think yeah okay so that was moved to online only

there was also yeah there's also a suspected March event like last year there was a March event where Apple gave us iPad Pro and a bunch of other interesting stuff there was a suspected March event this year we didn't get it it was a it was never you know. We didn't get it. It was never announced, but we suspect Apple

was planning one and canceled it. But that didn't stop them from dropping a couple new products on us super recently. Okay, I haven't gotten a chance to look at it, but I had a friend in Slack just be like, Apple's releasing stuff right now? That's the last thing I expected. Yeah, if you go to Apple.com

right at the top, it says, we just closed all of our stores for the foresee thing I expected. Yeah, if you go to apple.com, right at the top it says, we just closed all of our stores for the foreseeable future, but also here's our new stuff. Sweet. I like it. They're getting right along with it. And we're also maybe expecting some more stuff

in the near future too, but the stuff we have now is a new MacBook Air and the new iPad Pro. So which one do you want to hear about first? I like iPad better. Okay. Let's see. Start with iPad? As someone who doesn't have either of them and isn't really planning on getting either of them, the iPad still absolutely fascinates me. I will say the MacBook Air,

we could probably just breeze through first because it's a smaller update. Okay, do it. Let's breeze through it. The MacBook Air is the most popular laptop Apple makes. It has been for a while. They've updated it so it's the new scissor switches on the keyboard now. So if you've typed on a MacBook Air lately, holy crap, those are some shallow keys. It's got those really shallow keys. So they've updated the keyboard, number one.

It's got a new processor, 10th Gen Intel Ice Lake Y up to a quad-core chip now on the MacBook Pro or MacBook Air if you want one. Much improved graphics performance with Iris Plus graphics. They doubled the base storage to 256 gigs and it's shipping next week. It starts at $1,000. I'm looking forward to the Dave2D video about this just because honestly

if you look through his channel, all the laptops he's reviewed, there's usually a pretty heavy focus on what you're getting for the money and performance. MacBook Air has never been the strongest performer and it's always been pretty expensive. So as they come up in performance and down in price, I kind of wonder if this is fair now, like if this is a reasonable option for people who are in PC world, maybe thinking about switching. But for Macs, this is easily

their most popular laptop and it will continue to be for a long time, I think. Can we all agree that Dave2D is the best laptop content on YouTube? Easily my favorite. I mean, my favorite. First of all, my favorite thumbnails. Shout out to Dave's thumbnails. Wait, wait, wait. And now even on another section.

Did you see this is something that happened on Twitter yesterday, I think. He posted just like a picture of his wireless mouse dongle breaking. I thought it was a thumbnail. It looked good. His stupid pictures online are better than 99% of YouTuber thumbnails. Some people are just that aesthetic, man. I hope he didn't set it up.

Even if he did, it's incredible. He makes the best thumbnails. He makes the best laptop content. I'm looking forward to his review of this MacBook Air. We will be getting our hands on it soon. I mean, it comes out next week, so eventually it's going to be in our hands. And the other thing is iPad Pro. Okay. So, all right. I'm looking at this on my iPad Pro right now. I have an 11-inch iPad Pro with cellular. I use it all the time, and I use it specifically as a tablet. I don't have a keyboard

folio. I don't have a case that props it up. I just, I just, I just use it to slam the microphone. I just wave it around as a tablet and that's all I, that's all I really need it for. It's just so light. Yeah, just swing it around. So, uh, iPad Pro update has a lot of things that, I'll just go through them and you can see how it's moving it towards computer territory. Okay. What is a computer? Okay. iPad Pro added the round camera bump on the back, so they've put in one more camera. You know the back of the iPhone has that rounded square with the cameras in it? Same rounded square on the back of the new iPad Pro,

but you have an ultra-wide camera now. And I don't know if these are all updated cameras, but there is also a LiDAR array in the back. So there's no telephoto camera, but that third bump is LiDAR, and that's for better depth detection for portrait mode, maybe, but also mostly AR. I have to admit, you're not exciting me about it quite yet. This is probably the least important update.

There's also some improved studio quality mics. That's in air quotes. There's a lot of stuff we gotta test. I'm fully game with better microphones on it, because I think it's a great way of um like facetime or or right now um conferencing with your your work remotely it's it's something that microphones i think are super important um and like the back camera i just don't get it does wow this is gonna be a dumb question that's a front-facing camera right it does okay have they updated that at all? They didn't mention it,

so I would believe it's the same, but again, we'll probably test this stuff. I feel like, would you agree that the front camera would be way more beneficial to upgrade? Because I can see it as an incredible way of video conferencing. Okay, so as much as I rag on people for shooting photos and videos with the iPad,

we've all seen the grandpa in the back of the school and videos with the iPad, we've all seen the grandpa in the back of the school play holding up the iPad, blocking people's view. I mean, I've seen people on a trail in a national park taking pictures of animals. Oh my God. As much as I rag on that, I think the back camera on the iPad is still very useful for a lot of people, whether it's for scanning documents or just capturing media, whatever they're doing. But yes, the front facingfacing camera is probably equally important

for a lot of people. I completely agree with you in terms of scanning documents. I just don't think you need to take a portrait mode photo of your W2 that you're scanning. A lot of the other stuff was just about they do so much with AR now that you need a bad camera to do AR, and there's AR games. Okay, that makes so much more sense now. Like if you're working with something, I mean, just as an example, like Apple does their

AR stuff where you can look and see, like remember when Mac Pro, they first showed it off, like you could see it. That makes way more sense. You put objects into your environment. A lot of the demos they showed is like Ikea, you know, show what a couch would look like in the room in front of you. Stuff like that. I can see that making, good job yeah so they're so they updated that that's that's

cool to see i don't lidar is an interesting choice i mean it's it's kind of along the same lines of the depth sensor and on some other smartphones we'll see how well that works uh but i'll take any improvement there cool that's cool studio quality mics is cool uh also, A12Z Bionic. The fastest chip ever in an iPad. Fastest chip we've ever put in an iPad. It's a small bump from what I believe was the last gen's A12X Bionic. So it's just another letter, I guess. It's already a great performer. I have literally no complaints about my iPad's performance.

So it's still another step up from that. And just so you know, ahead of time, price is going to be7.99 for the small one $9.99 for the big one And then there's this new floating magic keyboard accessory that's stealing all the attention that I did see a picture this one. I am fascinated by because it it changes sort of their positioning we've had surface tablets and two-in-ones and everything forever and iPad has always been sort of their positioning. We've had Surface tablets and 2-in-1s and everything forever, and iPad has always been sort of hovering around this market, but Apple's never really leaned into it this hard. Yeah.

So this Magic Keyboard accessory has, if you can imagine like an iPad, you just magnetize it into this keyboard case. Yeah. It has scissor switches, full-size backlit keyboard. Okay. It has a hinge strong enough to float the iPad over the keyboard. Okay, so before we get into the next thing, how to describe that.

Would you agree with me? A lot of small businesses, whether it's a coffee shop or even our bistro downstairs, they have those kind of iPad-esque registers where they type it in, they spin it around to you. They just slot an iPad in a metal stand. It looks like that, right? Like that's maybe four inches off the ground and kind of lean back a little bit and has a base where I'm assuming now that's where the keyboard is. Yes. So it'll be kind of like that, but a little more flexible because you can just close it. Cool.

So it hovers it maybe two inches above the keyboard, which is getting it closer to eye level. Cool. How sturdy is that hinge? I don't know. Hopefully very sturdy. And then on the side, there's a little USB Type-C pass-through port.

So this whole magic keyboard is connecting to the iPad through the pins on the back. You can plug in with USB-C on that corner of the hinge, and that's full power pass-through. Awesome. So you open up the port on the side of the iPad through the pins on the back. You can plug in with USB-C on that corner of the hinge, and that's full power pass-through. So you open up the port on the side of the iPad again for another accessory, like a card reader or something.

Or your pencil. Yeah. Well, the pencil's already on the magnetized side, so thank gosh it doesn't have to use a pencil. But that's pretty cool. USB Type-C. And then it has a trackpad. Nice.

I get it. I get what's to make fun of it, but I get it also. So the whole accessory starts at $300 and is coming out in May. And I think just this whole thing brings up a lot of questions about, well, why would they make something like this, first of all? And what is that experience like using an iPad with a trackpad when it's typically a touch-first environment? We've seen mouse support little videos about hacking into the accessibility settings

and getting mouse support on the iPad, but now they're fully on embracing it. So what is that like? Number one question I've seen is, is this Magic Keyboard still backwards compatible with the old iPad pro? The answer is yes. The current iPad pro I'm holding with the same design, it will work with it. Okay. That's as far back as it goes.

Doesn't work with the first gen iPad pro. But number two, Logitech alongside this is also launching a $179 keyboard case with a track pad for the new iPad Pro and this one you know it doesn't float or anything and it doesn't have the USB type C pass through but it's still a backlit keyboard with a trackpad for the iPad Pro and this

one they're making even further backwards compatible so generally there's going to be an iOS 13.4 update that I think it's coming out next week that's going to give improved track 13.4 update that I think it's coming out next week that's going to give improved trackpad support to all iPads. You can hook up your magic trackpad from your iMac to the iPad and all this cursor support is coming in a new iOS update. So that brings a question, what the hell do you do with a cursor on the iPad that you couldn't already do with your hands?

Okay, I guess like they're obviously trying to turn this more into a computer. You know what I mean? I mean, that's what they're thinking. What's a computer? Which I think is really dumb. Aside from that, I can totally understand it. The laptop I have in front of me right now,

Surface, the Microsoft Surface, I have a Razer laptop at home. Both of them have touch screen on it and i literally never touch that's what i was gonna say i there's there's two things there's two things in this world there is an ipad with a keyboard and a trackpad or there is a macbook with a touch screen okay and if i play Devil's Advocate, what's the difference? To me it's just apps. And the general UI of like a mouse and multi-window support versus like,

if you watch the video on the way this cursor interacts with the iPad, there is no actual arrow, but there's just like a blue, a clear, like white circle around the screen, sort of like your finger would be on the screen. So you move it around and it's like that little circle instead of an arrow. And then that circle will snap to like whatever UI element

you're hovering over. So if you hover over the compose, you know, button in email, it'll like turn to a square and now you're there. Dude, I was like actually kind of, I thought this like trackpad was a good idea and that would drive me insane for no real reason, but I would watch this. You watch this video though

it looks like it works pretty well and then the other thing is there are a bunch of gestures for the same things that you would do with your fingers on the iPad screen so instead of doing that squeeze in to bring all your apps in, now there are three finger gestures on the trackpad for the iPad. This is insane.

So you swipe over on the iPad trackpad with three fingers and it moves you between apps. And you swipe up and down and it'll go home. You bring the cursor, air quotes cursor, all the way to the bottom and it brings the dock up from the bottom. All this is just like a Mac.

Kinda. Sorta. It's a really blurry line now. Yeah, it's not quite... It's like if a two-in-one was focused on the tablet first and giving you an accessory to turn it into a computer. It almost reminds me more of like, dare I say Dex, of like this is you have an iPad, you're using this mostly because it's an iPad,

but then at times you want to hook it up so it's more like your your laptop. Yeah. It's like, you're not using this all the time. You want to sit down and be productive and have your full keyboard and you want to type something up. I think, I don't know if we mentioned this in a podcast episode or if it was a conversation I had on Twitter, but more and more people who are writing blogs or journal entries, like journalists are using iPads more and more for just typing up their basic stuff. And it's super easy to use all the time with your finger, whether you're on the train or something,

but every once in a while, just want to crush out a full article. And that's so much easier on a keyboard. On a real keyboard. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess really it all will come down to like, if you're thinking about,

okay, I have X dollars to spend, do I get a fully decked out iPad pro and the $300 magic keyboard or do I get a MacBook air? The question will come down to what your usage mostly is. iPad is amazing for like casual use, like media consumption, grabbing Netflix, watching YouTube videos, swiping between like just random apps, Twitter, the web browser, stuff like that. Pinch to zoom. That whole experience is great. But the second you have to do like file management and just a couple like you got to sign a PDF and send it like all these little things will start to add up when you really need to get real work done but on the other half there's like the macbook air which is like always set for that always has a real computer always ready to do productivity work it's mac os 10 but if you just want to like casually sit around and watch youtube videos or if you just want to swipe around on twitter like maybe it's more enjoyable on a tablet so you just got to think about what you do more often. I also wonder, I would always pick,

if I traveled all the time, I would pick an iPad for the majority of that work. A laptop is just so much extra space. When you set it up on the, if I was traveling and I wanted to watch a movie on a decent sized screen that's not my phone, I would always have to like put the tray table down and set up my laptop.

Whereas if it was an iPad, if I wanted to just like, oh man, I don't want to get into the whole leaning back argument on a plane for God's sake. But like I can just hold it in my lap or you know the part where you're taking off and you can't put your tray table down. It's so hard to watch something on a laptop

where I can just hold my iPad. It's so hard to watch something on a laptop where I can just hold my iPad. It's so funny. To me, I love my iPad for everything except the productivity stuff. So if I was just like watching videos or if I kick it up here on a stand and I'm just reading off of it, like that's fine. But for me, when I travel a lot, I want to bring the laptop because the hinge is sturdier. So if I just want to watch like netflix or watch a youtube video it just sits there and holds itself instead of me having to hold it for an hour okay and if i ever want to like quick out real quick and like answer some emails if you know the wi-fi on the plane will let me i can actually do that pretty easily on on the laptop rather than the ipad but so now coming into this 300 floating if that hinge is great wouldn't that solve all those problems and then to me

yeah i think so so i think that's a perfect example of where this could bring people more it's just another step forward for the ipad to bring people from ditching their you know classic laptop being more into the ipad section where now you have the choice now do i want to just hold in my lap am i on just uh am i in an uber ride and i just want to watch a youtube video or now am i on a plane where i'm watching something oh now i want to answer a bunch of emails strap it onto my my keyboard and now I can type and now I can face it so I don't have to hold it it hopefully has a sturdy hinge and now it's also kind of like a dock for you to watch movies on so here's what I think it's here's why I think

it's not going to sway me okay there's a couple things that have always prevented me from using an iPad for everything and that's one, when I hold the iPad, you see I have no case on it. It's got a skin on it, but I just like having this thin boxy profile. When you have that magic keyboard on it and you're not using it, you have to fold this whole thing

over to the back of the iPad. And for me, holding all of that and the way it constantly falls off the back if you don't hold it up, that, I hate that. How easy, do we know how easy it attaches and detaches? Just magnets. I mean, so to me that, it's funny that you say that.

In my entire scenario, I just played out and man, this scenario has evolved so much that if you're all trying to think about this in your head, you're probably lost by now. So I apologize. But I guess to me, I always saw that as like I would keep it It still counts as a case so when it's in my backpack my screens not getting scratched But as I take it out of my backpack if I'm just doing iPad stuff I would probably just detach it just pull it out And then when I wanted to snap it back on to the case if it's just magnets And then I have either propping it up to watch movies or I have my keyboard for yeah more work-related stuff

Okay, so that's the one thing and I guess that's that's perfectly reasonable. I just snap it out with the magnets it up to watch movies or I have my keyboard for more work-related stuff. Okay. So that's the one thing. And I guess that's perfectly reasonable. I just snap it out with the magnets. I don't know why I thought that was such a big obstacle. But the other thing is the hinge is never really that good. True. Okay.

Yeah. And the lap ability, when you put this thing in your lap, is it going to just wobble around with your knees? That's a great... In your lap, is it going to fit? Because a laptop, the hinge is pretty much always sturdy enough to just sit there and not wobble and you can type and you don't have to worry about also touching the screen. It's just going to sit there and be a screen. Where with this, it's supposed to be hovering two inches above the keyboard.

So is it going to wobble two inches above the keyboard or is it going to sit there firmly? When I adjust the tilt, what's that going to be like? Is it going to only have a couple of tilt angles available i have a lot of questions about the hinge yeah i think i think the hinge for so many different things even laptops like the hinges that underrated thing no one thinks about and so important is the first thing that you get super annoyed that's also the reason why i'm not a huge user of laptop touch screens yeah anytime you touch the screen especially near the top, it's just going to wobble like crazy,

no matter how good the hinge is. Yeah. So, hey, I guess we're coming back to praising hinge design. I know we were talking about folding phones and how important the hinge is. Hey, hinge designers, big shout out to you guys. Your jobs are more important than you think. Yeah.

I guess all of this is to say, or to ask my question, what are the chances we ever get final cut pro on an ipad pro and if i were to guess my answer it's zero because they need to protect the macbook pro somehow but it's funny because their whole slogan on the ipad is like what's a computer like stop yeah like worrying about your computer but they also make the computer so they want you to think of it as a computer but also don't think of our macbooks as a computer yeah it's more powerful than any pc including our own but don't think about ours this is definitely not going to replace our pcs uh yeah no i just think if if they made their desktop apps awesome on the ip, it would fully sell me on the idea

that they're really convinced this could replace a MacBook Pro or a PC laptop. But then they would actually stop selling good PC laptops. I don't know. But they're never going to put a touchscreen on a Mac so the overlap is just never... What do you think comes first? Touchscreen on a

Mac or Final Cut on an iPad? Wow. Very low chance of either of those happening. I would say they will make some sort of Final Cut Lite on an iPad before they ever make a touchscreen Mac. I'm going touchscreen Mac first. Really? Yeah. Interesting.

MacBook, MacBook. Touchscreen MacBook. Which I think is what we were talking about, but just to be clear. I mean, any Mac. I don't think them. Yeah, that's an interesting bet bet we'll see i mean this is either one of these is years out just because the overlap has been such a blurred line for so long but yeah do you think if the now i forget the surface studio yeah pc did better they would ever consider doing

touchscreen on like an imac since the form factors for it kind of similar uh it doesn't have that like crazy hand yeah which I feel is like what makes it but I also just don't think surface studio did well enough for anyone to like and even if it did do really well would it be doing well because it's a touchscreen computer or would it be just because it's a great all-in-one that happens to have like some niche group of users who get a really good kick out of yeah but i feel like that that group of users would be the like design users who a lot of them like to use mac so imagine now an imac that can swivel down more and be used as kind of a tablet like a drawing tablet yeah i mean that's what the surface studio was supposed to kind of

be it was supposed to be for designers who could have their regular desktop computer, then slot it down. So you're imagining a place to draw. Yeah. So you're you're imagining like an iPad, like an iMac Pro with Apple pencil support so that it would be a touch screen technically, but it would be for the designer who's using it like an easel, that type of thing. So it'd be touchscreen, but it would be more focused

on yeah using a pencil I think that would be pretty sick I'm not disagreeing I think it would be sick I just don't think Apple would do it I don't disagree with you on that either because think about Mac OS X once you're going okay now we're going to do touch screen on a Mac now you have to build this custom like all

the controls that you're used to doing with a mouse now you have to build all of that for your hands, which Microsoft kind of did fine with windows, but like now you're doing window dragging and pinching and multitasking and all that stuff on top of all the gestures you already had on a track pad on top of all the mouse stuff you already had, which is just a lot. Yeah. But I think if Apple thought they could make money off of it, they would, they could do it. Fair. So the goal is to inflate the perceived size

of this easel market where people are just drawing on their computers. I feel like it's way too niche in order to ever actually become a product. But I think it could be really cool. I thought the Surface Studio was a really cool product that I am not artistically gifted enough to ever use.

But I thought it was really cool looking. It's definitely sick sick i've seen it used in some really cool applications actually well yeah i mean there's there's plenty of cool uses for it it's just a matter of like how many of them would they sell it's kind of like a like a gopro like you buy it you're like oh i'm gonna draw so many cool things and then you draw on it once you're like i'm not talented enough yeah this to its full potential i saw those cool skiing videos and i bought a gopro and then i was like i'm not doing anything now it just looks like i'm going a mile an hour down the hill yeah but yeah man all right well that's our new apple products we have probably more coming i'm guessing we're still gonna see a new iphone in the first half of this year something

like an iphone 9 or an iphone se2 in the first half of this year? I think so. I think we're we might see it. Really? Yeah. Because we were expecting not an iPhone replacement but basically an older iPhone body with internals upgraded and a smaller size. And we were expecting it in the first half? Yeah. I think potentially March or April.

But again timing is... Do you think there's any chance they push it back just because a phone seems like something they would want to run an event for do you think they just toss it in the the same regular iphone lineup tough later i mean there's also rumors of supply chain obviously shortages making it difficult yeah i don't know enough about that so it's like yeah there's a lot of potential delays and you can imagine if they tried to launch that phone tomorrow like how long it would take to get it on sale with every store closed and like no events going on and like yeah how would that

even work uh so i don't think it's inevitable but if it does we'll we'll have our eye out on that but so far we have ipad pro now we have macbook air and we're expecting more so that's that's sort of the the top of the tech news yeah there's not a whole lot of tech news other than things canceling and stuff going on how how places are reacting to all this man you know you we started this off by saying that's all we wanted to talk about but this is affecting literally every aspect of our life so everything it's kind of tough not to talk about it um it a lot of things are going to be drastically drastically different you know when you say it affected everything it literally so you know how the NBA season got cancelled in NBA 2K

you can play games against other people with the same teams based on like live roster updates so if I pull up 2K and I'm like let's play as the Bucks versus the Bulls it'll give you like the Bucks and the Bulls but if Giannis is injured in real life, you can't have Giannis on your team.

And the NBA season being canceled glitched the crap out of 2K because people were unable to play games for a little bit for various roster-related reasons. I have seen in the NHL some mascots are live streaming playing NHL 2K against each other oh yes in uh instead of the actual games being played which i think is hilarious i think one nba team yeah one nba game and they broadcasted it and commentated and everything yeah so you know if it's going to

affect everything might as well make the best of it yeah right like at least we can think of it as we're in a day and age where we're being forced to stay home. But technology really brings so much more to our home that can entertain us now that hopefully this podcast is one of them. But there's still a lot of fun things. I mean, I play World of Warcraft, so I've been self-quarantined since it came out in August. So none of this is affecting me at all. I've been practicing social distancing for 25 years now, and it's gone great. I'm prepared.

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because there's... We all have more time. Let's face it, you have more time. So you have a bunch of stuff, but I just wanted to start off. I have lots of different things. I'm going to start off off the top just with YouTube. In general for me, I've watched a lot of YouTube and top just with YouTube in general for me.

Uh, I've watched a lot of YouTube and I don't really watch that much else. Like I know a lot of people are, Hey, firing up Hulu plus and Netflix and all that other stuff for me. It's just, if I watch like maybe half of the new videos in my sub box on a, on a regular basis, I think now it's not just like any one type of video

or any one creator that's benefiting, but I feel like I watch like maybe 85, 90% of the new stuff coming up now. Also, which brings me to a fun fact, the MKBHD channel just reached a milestone. Yeah, what's that? I was gonna ask if you have a guess of what it is, but it's Super BTS.

Super BTS. I was gonna ask if you have a guess of what it is but it's super BTS super BTS you'd only know this by being in the analytics of the channel okay I have like in the Q&A video you just mentioned that we were at it was like 1.5 billion total views or something

like that 1.7 billion total views and 7.4 billion watch minutes. Okay, so I'm assuming both of those are at like not really that close. Yeah, it's not one of those. My other one I like kind of think just because it's a little less well-known. Are we getting close to a like dislike milestone?

I know we hit that a little while ago. We hit our one million unsubscribers. It's in that category of a subset of a bigger number. It is MKBHD channel just reached one million subscribers that hit the notification bell. Apparently, the ratio is typically about one of every 10, 10%. There's a million of you that are subscribed and have hit the notification bell. So big shout out to y'all for that notification on the channel.

There's still 9 million of you who have to catch up, but hey, that's a good start. That's a good start. Ring that bell. Ring that bell, hit that red button. No, in content I liked, I had a video. So Tesla Model Y is starting to ship, actually, like ahead of schedule, like we keep talking about, which is super cool.

So there's a Tesla Model Y video starting to trickle out there. If you just search Tesla Model Y delivery, you can find a bunch of them. Check those out. But I'm gonna recommend waiting for Doug DeMero's because I think it's gonna be great. Yeah, he had a picture, I think, of one.

I think he's shooting with probably one of the same first ones that a lot of other people are with. Until then, you can check out his 37-minute Corvette C8 review. A lot of people were waiting for the mid-engine Corvette review. He finally did it. It is number one on trending right now. Congrats, Doug, on your first top trending video. So check that out.

I watched a 37-minute video about a 37 minute video about yeah he's one of those ones who's like i love what doug does but they're so long but yeah what else am i gonna do yeah 37 minutes no big deal that's so that's that's in the show notes it's corvette review all right corvette review for everyone you know in case you were thinking about dropping some extra i don't even know how much it is but um oh man. Okay. I'm going to give you, I have a lot of different suggestions here. I have a podcast, I have a Netflix series, I have a YouTube channel, and I have a newsletter. What do you want to hear first? Whoa.

Okay. Hit me with the YouTube channel first. Okay. This one I'm really excited to talk about actually because I don't think he's very well known. He pops up on Reddit every once in a while while and i actually think he's like a perfect channel for the situation we're in right now of being home all the time is it a binge channel like you'd binge a bunch of them um you could but i wouldn't recommend it because it's it's like an instructional channel almost it's entertaining but okay it's a cooking channel okay i'll start it there so i feel like you wouldn't binge it because you would want

to watch something and then you would want to make oh okay what he he teaches you how to make right uh okay so the channel name is it's very strange internet shaquille okay like shaquille o'neal spelled just like that um if i could sum up the channel it's like have you ever wanted to go make a recipe you find online and like you find the blog post of whatever it is there's like 30 paragraphs of the story of why they're so excited to make this and then you have to get down into the ingredients past like 10 ads and and all that and it's a pain in the neck this guy all of his videos i would say are like averaging around five minutes he's just super to the point here's how you make it here's why you should make it like

this instead of all the other ways that you should make it and like it's all really really good like i don't know if i would say full-on gourmet but it's like above average cooking tips on how to do different things and he's just stupidly entertaining this this sounds like the type of video that you know how if you ask you know the Google home nest mini with a little screen on it Yeah, this or then the nest hub Matt whatever. It's called Yeah, you know how when you ask it for like instructions on how to make something It'll sort of try to walk you through it based on what you have in Google search. This sounds like this should be the default Video it shows you pretty much for any given recipe that he's covered some of the things he

does are like very specific um like he doesn't have a giant channel it's not his full-time thing as far as i know so like he's just making things when he has the chance to um but very very entertaining very to the point um like i have binged them even though i haven't made anything just because i think he's very funny and i'm super interesting yeah but great knowledge on how to cook things why things why different ingredients or why different types of like oils and seasoning and all that are beneficial and just some really really i've made a bunch of his stuff and i feel like it's a perfect time to watch his stuff now because you're probably sitting at home with a giant stockpile and your your refrigerator and your pantry and a lot of the stuff he does is stuff you probably have at home already I think

the one I want to recommend is called why aren't your potatoes crispy enough and in like a three or four minute video he teaches you how to make these like really really outside crispy but inside light and fluffy potatoes and all you need are potatoes and some oil and some salt okay so that's that'll be the one we put in the show notes then yeah i'll put that one in the show notes i appreciate anything crispy so this will be exactly yeah definitely try these at home um they're super easy and i've made them and they're delicious it's kind of like french fries but nowhere near as terrible for you because you're not deep frying them in like a ton of oil you're using a little bit of oil but um i'm actually going to try one he does he talks about

how to make like the perfect burger patty which is this absolutely insane way of taking ground beef and layering it so you're getting the least resistance in your bite as possible and cooking it like a day before this is like science it's kind of like that and you know since i'm going to be home the next couple days i plan on actually trying it out but super super suggest internet shaquille if you even if you want to just try cooking something a little different because you've got plenty of time to make dinner, let's face it. All right. Podcast next?

Yeah, let's do the podcast. It's Reply All. Oh, okay. Come on. It's Reply All, their newest episode. Oh, is this the one about the song that they couldn't quite find? Okay, this one is really satisfying. I honestly think it's one of my favorite podcast episodes

I've ever listened to. There's a couple Reply All episodes that are quintessential recommenders where if you ever ask someone, have you heard this podcast? And they're like, no, what's it like? Here, listen to this episode. And for me, for a long time, that's been the one where I was a two-parter, where they were going after the robocall center where they actually traveled the telemarketer one that one a hundred percent if you haven't heard that yeah oh god can we link

that i have it yeah i can like it so it's episode 102 and 103 it's called long distance part one and part two if you haven't listened to those that is a hundred percent my favorite podcast individual episode of all time yeah it's a little different because you don't get the full feel of reply all because only one person's reporting on it um you don't get the it's uh pj and alex and only alex is reporting on that but a lot of these those two their dynamic is amazing um so anyways i actually have that like written down as as one of the episodes you should listen to the newest episode is 158 it's called the case of the missing hit pretty much a guy remembers this song and can't find it anywhere on the internet so they they do a segment called super tech support and they do

everything they can and i mean everything they can to find this song it is hilarious it's so much work if you remotely like 90s music it is an incredible episode um and then my other one that i really like if any harry potter fans out here episode 134 is called the year of the wallop and they do this really i think this is one of the best segments on at least in podcasting that i know of it's called yes yes no where they explain internet theory yeah they're like their boss comes in with a tweet that he's seen that's really popular but doesn't understand any of it so they spend the episode like explaining every like reference yeah the like memes of it this one's not their boss it's actually jason manzoukas who's a comedian and a actor has a lot to do with Harry Potter really really good episode nice man I feel like I'm listing too many and you haven't I mean okay

if you if you gotta listen to reply all yeah listen to the latest the the case of the missing hit really satisfying and it also just because they they kind of go into tech more than a typical like podcast like they could just be entertaining and just talk about like, here we made this song to try to see if we could find it. But literally the technical details of like what SoundHound does and what like this recording atmosphere is like and just the whole format of it is excellent. So I'll second that recommendation.

I've heard it. Check that out. Awesome. Netflix series. There's one called Explained. And I think I mostly'm just talking about this because they had an episode all about pandemics oh and that i watched i think in january when we first heard about all this and i was like watching that episode leading up to way before all this has happened was like that's kind of terrifying and now we're

kind of in that fast forward so if you're looking for just more information on pandemics and past pandemics that have happened to kind of compare to what we're going in right now, really, really cool series. That's right in line with quarantine content. That's perfect. It is literally great quarantine content. And then if I'm gonna do one more recommendation here,

this is actually a newsletter, so this is reading. Okay. I'm going to open it up by saying, first off, it is written by a friend of mine, actually a friend of Marquez's as well. So full disclosure, we know this person. It is also based on politics. So his views are his own. I enjoy reading them i don't know if i necessarily agree with literally

everything he says but i find him extremely trustworthy and the whole point of the newsletter and the website he owns is to be non-partisan there are no ads on the website he just wants to get everything out that he can so he's like explaining or just like breaking down what happened in the news and pretty much and he does it in like super easy 10-ish minute reads so it's a lot this is one of those years where like it it helps to be able to break things down like that because there is so much happening and if i just log on to twitter and i see like three political trending topics and about 90 articles yeah i'm not about to try to dive into all that so i feel like that that's something i can help yeah it, it's super great.

It's called Tangle. I'm going to link it in the show notes. Like we said, it's by Isaac Saul, good friend of ours. He plays Frisbee. But I just think he, I know he pours his heart and his soul into this. And I find him extremely, extremely trustworthy in a time where the internet can have a lot of misinformation out there. So we'll link it every day, post a topic, 10 minute read. I usually read it during my lunch break,

kind of get informed about what's going on because it is impossible to keep up with everything. So just having a little snippet of something every once in a while. I just thought of another piece. I was really hoping you would think of something so that I didn't have like 10. It's another YouTube video, but it's the, you've heard of John Oliver. What is this segment called?

Oh, Last Week Tonight. Last Week Tonight. He did one on, specifically on the coronavirus. He's on two. Oh, really? Yeah, well, he just released a new one with no audience.

Did you watch it? Right, that's the one I watched. First of all, is it really strange not having? It's so strange. The delivery, just like in the world of live events that don't have audiences anymore, there is everything from, what was that? There's a WWE clip where they're fighting in an empty arena.

I haven't seen it. I know they're trying to do WWE, but no. It's rough. Every time there's a punchline, it's just like an awkward pause to the camera, and you're like, that would have been laughing, probably. Yeah, so John Oliver has his typical delivery style, and he went super deep

into specifically the coronavirus pandemic, not just pandemics in general. But yeah, it's, again, him delivering to an empty studio where you're like, that would typically be a pause for effect or a reaction, but either way. John Oliver is incredible.

I love his show. If that's something you want to binge watch, he's very popular, so I feel like a lot of people probably watch him. Yeah, but it's bingeable right now. It is very bingeable. A lot of stuff. I think I've seen almost every episode of that.

Every Monday, it is what I turn on and just listen to on my car ride to work. And then I usually watch it again later that night so I can see all the graphics, like the visuals and stuff. Yeah. It's a good way of getting kind of like an overview of some sort of important topic, but with some humor behind it. Sometimes a not important topic, but still equally entertaining. Extremely. What was that? What was that one leader that was obsessed with horses? That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. Okay. some humor behind it sometimes a not important topic but still equally entertaining extremely what was that what was the that one leader that was obsessed with horses yeah okay i'm gonna link yeah i'm gonna link that video actually you guys can go and find the coronavirus one if you want

to listen to it but i'm gonna probably the most underrated version or episode he's done is about a leader of some country who doesn't even matter horses Yeah, it's incredible. It is so funny. All right. Do you think that's enough quarantine content? That's some quarantine content for this episode. Yeah. I think that's a good start. Sorry, if any of you guys are listening to this in the car, it's going to be really hard to go find these videos.

I kind of am assuming more people are now listening to this at home. I hope you're listening to it at home. Show notes are still all links, I believe. So if you're somewhere on your phone home show notes are still all links I believe so if you're somewhere on your phone and you can open these one by one and save them to pocket or open them on a different browser all that's possible but we'll try to make it as easy as possible to find the stuff we're talking about and if any of it is like a Netflix show or just a title that's searchable so hopefully that works too do you want to potentially I know we keep our Twitter

to mostly just updates do you want to oh just a big show you want to potentially, I know we keep our Twitter to mostly just updates. Do you want to- Oh, just a big show notes tweet? Do you want to just do a thread of- Quarantine content. Quarantine content. You have to say it. You have to say quarantine content.

I have to say it? Yeah, we all have to say it. That's the hashtag. All right. If you guys have other quarantine content you want to send my way, hashtag quarantine content. Yeah, why don't we, after this releases, we'll make a tweet with everything we've talked about here

for you guys to take a look at. And then we highly encourage everyone who has anything else to post it in that thread. Yeah. Everyone can come together. And enjoy our quarantine together. Enjoy some stuff together. Perfect.

UFC quarantine. Quarantine. Quarantine content. Quarantine content. There it is. Together. Quarantine content apart, but together. There it is.

All right. Be responsible. Stay inside. Wash your hands. Enjoy the quarantine content. Flatten the curve, guys. Let's but together. There it is. All right. Be responsible. Stay inside. Wash your hands. Enjoy the quarantine content. Flatten the curve, guys. Let's do it. Thanks for listening.

It's been a good one. We'll hopefully be back soon with some more tech news and some more quarantine content and all of the above. Catch you guys in the next one. Waveform is brought to you in part with Studio 71 and our intro outro music is created by Cameron Barlow.