Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Favorite YouTube Videos Ever

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David jump right into all things YouTube! It's the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video upload so everyone takes turns talking about what their favorite videos are before getting into the big antitrust news of the week regarding Google. Then they talk about Nintendo Switch 2 pre-orders and Apple and Meta getting hit some huge fines. After that, it's time to pick the Crown and Clown of the month before getting intro trivia. Enjoy! Links: 20 years of YouTube Blog David's favorite video Marques's favorite video Andrew's favorite video Ellis's favorite video Adam's favorite video Search Engine episode Verge - Google's antitrust trial Verge - Apple and Meta DMA Fines New Atlas - Record breaking pixel density Digital Foundry - Nintendo Switch 2 article Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No, in today's episode, we got some updates. Actually, it's a lot of updates to things. Blue Sky, Apple Intelligence, what else? Switch 2 pre-orders are on the list. Multiple antitrust lawsuits, because those are gonna keep getting updated. So the tech move, so the tech world, so tech moves fast, and lots of updates happen, so we're gonna keep covering updated. So the tech move, so the tech world, so tech moves fast and lots of updates happen,

so we're gonna keep covering them. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, but yeah, if that sounds interesting to you, make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform podcast here on YouTube, because it turns out a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them

and enjoy them, but then they don't subscribe. And it would be cool if you did. But if you don't like us, don't subscribe. That's very important. Because it'll be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed. Very important. Every week. And you don't like us. Yeah, I'm sorry.

No, it's okay. And we make a lot of inside jokes. We do make a lot of inside jokes. Then you gotta subscribe to figure out what the inside jokes are. It's true. One day we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and that's it.

I bet we could reference that episode if you want to know what we're talking about. As a footnote every time we make the jokes. But we have two small things first. The first one is within like a couple of hours of last episode, somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to watch YouTube videos, which was crazy. Yeah. Pretty insane.

I didn't see it working, but I, I'm going to take their word for it. They just actually, they only posted pictures. Right. I'm going to throw it out there. If you could post a video, that would be awesome. I would like to see that, but it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that literally within 12 hours,

someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game. That's like crazy to see. And really cool. Please do not bring any of the others to life. Please. For Smark has to be cool up on the street and watch that horrible, listen to that horrible song on Spotify.

You don't need it. There was a comment that was just like, how dare you for playing that that long? on Spotify. You don't need it. There was a comment that was just like, how dare you for playing that that long? I was like, I can't think, I can't think. But the second thing is actually a question that I have for you guys listening and watching, especially here on YouTube.

So a little backstory for the last couple of almost, actually probably more than a year, last couple of months, we've been working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently dubs in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English you may know a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English speaking regions and watch videos in English but if you live in a Spanish-speaking country you might not watch these videos mostly live in English-speaking regions and watch videos in English. But if you live in a Spanish-speaking country, you might not watch these videos unless you have

captions or maybe a dub in Spanish. And so it kind of unlocks availability of these videos. So we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things. We found something that works pretty well for captions. The dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with humans who speak both languages, both English and say Spanish, doing a direct translation, but they don't really sound like me. And- They also take a long time. They also take much longer and obviously are pretty pricey,

but then there's also AI dubs, which are a machine that sounds like me, but isn't necessarily a perfect representation. You know how Google translates a little awesome times, but it actually does a voice dub of something that sounds like me in that other language, which is really interesting. It's faster, it's cheaper, but it's not as accurate.

We've been playing with this a lot in different videos, different timing, different sorts of things. And the question that I have for you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country, which Pop Quiz is. India. Is India. A lot of people in India speak multiple languages

or do speak English or speak Hindi or sometimes switch back and forth between the two. And some of them watch videos in English or Hindi. I don't know if you've watched tech YouTube in India. Sometimes they switch back and forth as well. And the latest video which was a Light Phone 3 review, we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in Spanish and Hindi. I thought you learned Hindi. No yeah I didn't learn Hindi. This was actually a dub. And interestingly Spanish mostly positive feedback. People

watching the videos of Spanish speaking regions. What happens on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language. And a lot of people I saw on Twitter were very excited. Like, oh wow, I can watch the video basically in English on this channel or in Spanish on this channel. And I saw mixed feedback from India

because a lot of people in India, like I said, watch videos in English, and so when they opened the new video, it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub, when they actually are pretty used to watching videos in English. And so some people were saying, oh wow, this is Hindi, I like this better, I'll watch this.

A lot of people were like, no, I don't like this, I'd rather watch in English like I usually do. And so I had a small sample size, this is why I'm opening it up to the waveform commenting audience. What, if you live in India and watch YouTube videos, what do you prefer? Do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi?

You can dive into the settings and change it on a per video basis, but I'm curious what your default is in what you watch on YouTube. I can see that's a, I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region. Cause we've already shown that India is our number two, like most watch country. So they clearly are enjoying it in English.

We wanted to do Hindi, so it might branch out to some more people. Um, but it defaulting, if you were already a subscriber and used to it, that's probably annoying to now check it off every time. I think that's why it hits. So like in a lot of countries that are not on our top countries list, they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in English in those places.

So if you just pick a random country that doesn't speak English and then give them a dub, that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the videos in that country. But in like US or bunch of places here that speak English, they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to. So that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback.

Yeah, our other question is the difference between a human created dub or an AI dub. It's not even really the price that's our issue. It's that I think a human one usually takes about five days, four to five days, where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time. So we're not sure if like, we've been testing both of where does it, is it a good benefit for us?

Because is five days after the release kind of too late? Most of the time, yeah, it's a great point because most, if you look at the curve of an upload, it's like this, and usually after five days, it's there. And everyone's watched it, who's gonna watch it? Tech videos have a really short shelf life a lot of times. Evergreen videos, maybe the people watch it longer down the road, that's cool.

But yeah, I do think we got some feedback about the dub, the AI dub, not being as accurate. Oh, for sure, I'm sure. Which was, and I can't fact check that because I don't speak the other languages. Right. So, TV. It's definitely a pickle we're in but would love to hear some feedback on a larger audience than

Just Twitter, I guess so that's why we're posing it to you all but Next thing speaking of YouTube audiences ha I got that one good We're recording this on Wednesday, which is the day of the anniversary of the 20th Year since the first upload to YouTube. I could have phrased it better. That was the longest. Phrase that, process. 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video.

Rewind, rewind. This is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Me at the zoo by Jod. Yeah, 2005. Yeah, the thing about those elephants

is they have really long snouts. Do you remember the script for this video? Yeah, I watched it this morning. Oh, is that what he said? It's also like 20 seconds long. Could have been trivia. That could have been- It's chaptered off now too.

What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? I noticed that this morning, I was like, these chapters are flying by because it's 19 seconds. Yeah, it's like 19 seconds. You're like, intro. That's funny.

Wait, it's true. Chaptered, but they're just all called intro. I'm very a 19 seconds. You're like intro. That's funny. Wait, intro? Chaptered, but they're just all called intro. I'm very, intro the cool thing end. They must, do they just like test half their features on this video? No, I think he logs back in. Oh, he logs back in. Yeah, he's notoriously like changed the description

of the video multiple times and like pinned comments because he was a founder of YouTube. So he adds something there. It's like the founder of YouTube just said something as he changed the description of the video. Did you see that on the video? There's a little birthday cake. Yeah.

Just for today. It might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast, but I thought that was pretty cool. That video can almost drink just one more year. That's in the US. It can drink basically anywhere else. It can already enlist in the army. That it can too.

I have some interesting numbers I'd like to share with you guys, 47, that are pretty crazy. So number one. That's a pretty crazy number. Number one is this was the first video uploaded to YouTube. It was 2005. Since then, over 20 trillion videos have been uploaded to YouTube.

Hey, Adam from the future here. So I'm editing this episode and it turns out that YouTube actually updated their blog to say 20 billion YouTube videos, not 20 trillion YouTube videos as we say here. Okay, back to the episode. If I had a nickel. You'd be pretty wealthy my friend.

I don't know if you understand. What? You could pay off the US national debt. Like the amount of storage space. Yeah. The amount of content. Yeah. 20 trillion, not one trillion.

Yeah. 20 trillion. I would like to know how much storage YouTube is currently actively hosting. Wait, 20 trillion? Would you? 20 trillion. Yes. Would you like to know that?

Yes. Because it would probably blow your mind. That's why I would like to know. I would really like to know. The crazy it would probably blow your mind. That's why I would like to know. I would really like to know. The crazy thing is 20 years, 20 trillion. So obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year. Yeah, there was exponential growth though.

On YouTube, fittingly on their 20th birthday, they found that there are roughly 20 million new videos uploaded every day. 20 million new videos. Carefully entered. That's another crazy stat. JGBT is notoriously not great at math. Wait, this is really easy though. Sorry.

It'd be $1 trillion. It's 20 trillion nickels because. Oh, you did. You had a nickel. I had to use ChatGPT. Because a nickel is a 20th of a. That is correct. Yeah, you'd have $1 trillion.

But yeah, 20 million videos uploaded every day. Plus we can't. And YouTube users upload, or sorry, YouTube users average over 100 million comments every single day. 100 million? 100 million comments. And I'm sure there's a graph somewhere of like 99% of the videos have zero comments and 1% of the videos have all the comments.

Thanks to the waveform listeners for that. That's crazy. 47 of those are useful comments. That to the waveform listeners for that. That's crazy. 47 of those are useful comments. That's where that number came from. So you said 20 million a day? 20 million videos get uploaded a day. How many comments per day? And 100 million comments are posted on YouTube every day.

And 999 million of those were waveform comments. You mean 99 million? Cause there's 100 million total. We just, we broke the scale. I'm sorry. Math is hard. The last thing is they discovered that creators, you know, you can heart a video, you can like a video,

you can pin a, sorry, a comment. You can heart a comment. Creators hearted 10 million comments every single day. Wow. There's a lot. That's Wow. There's a lot. That's crazy. There's a lot of heart engagement going on. You know what's an interesting thing about YouTube?

The like feature, I don't like that the like feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist. Same. Yeah, because sometimes I'm just like, I'm supporting my friends. Like I was looking through my liked videos on YouTube today and mostly I just like videos that my friends upload

just to give them a boost. But I don't actually like the videos that I like, which is actually stupid of me. Do you have playlists? Have you made your own playlists? No. That's what I do. My liked playlist is just me trying to like

support people that I like. And then I make the disc golf workout, whatever documentary playlist, and then just save them to those instead. But if you use YouTube music, I believe. No one does that? Wow. Well, if you like something like a song,

it also still saves on your liked playlist. Or even shorts. I've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos. That's why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes. And it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them. What? The shorts. Oh my God.

The backwards pockets. Where would we be without them? Dude, I was running with the, did I show you them? That might have been the deepest inside joke we've had in a while. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I would like to see them later. I will bring them in next week.

Yeah, they're backwards. I have a bizarro backwards sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah. I would like to see them later. I will bring them in next week. Okay. Yeah, they're backwards. I have a bizarro backwards twist. I wanna do trivia. Okay. It's not for your trivia. It's for, I have trivia for you guys. Just curious if you know the answers.

Because obviously I know the YouTube trivia, but if you haven't already read the blog post, we'll see what you guys think. Okay. You remember when the first ever YouTube video hit a billion views? Yeah. You remember which one that is? Which one is that?

It was Gungham style. That's what I thought it was? Correct. Okay. There are now how many videos in the billion view club? One billion. On YouTube. Closest delta?

Closest delta. Closest delta. Yeah. 20. No, I'm going with a hundred. A thousand. 20, a hundred, a thousand going with 100. A thousand. 20, 100, a thousand. 100 is the closest.

There are 300 music videos. Really? 300 music videos. They're all music videos? I think there's a few more random like kids videos that are also in the billion-view club. Oh, I would assume they're all kids videos. But 300 music videos.

And the fastest, which took 88 days was which one? To a billion. Justin Bieber. Fastest to a billion was that Justin Bieber song. Despacito. It's not kids' videos. It's not Despacito. It's not Gangnam Style.

It's not Baby Shark. It's not Baby Shark. Baby by Justin Bieber, right? It's not Baby. Baby was the first to a million dislikes or something else. It was one of the most dislike videos ever. Until 2019. Until YouTube rewinds.

Joke's on you guys though, it's still a view. I'll give you some hints. I'll give you the countdown of the four, three, and two. Okay. Four is Rosé by Bruno Mars, 105 Days. I don't even know that song. Oh, that song is a banger. Three is Mejente by Willie William and Jay Balvin under three days

That's a good one. Then there's a tie at two Ed Sheeran shape of you and despacito tied at 97 days What and this one beat them all in just 88 days getting a billion views was it recent like an I feel like in the past Year, no, maybe no, it's not in the last year. No You all know the reviewing every iPhone so it's just Yeah, it's a music video song happy give us the genre It's pop. I will tell you is it pop with a letter in front of it. No My last hint is that the artist name kind of sounds like a tech company. Bruno Mars.

Jay-Z. I'm just assuming Pitbull's part of it somehow. Pitbull. He's probably solo. He's a part of it, not a tech company. Man, this is a lot. This is hard. Solo artist.

Okay, give us another hint. She is the only one in the video. Ariana Grande? No. Can you play the first note? She is the only one in the video. Oh. Oh. Ariana Grande? No. Can you play the first note? Yeah, give it away. The first note?

100%. I mean, we're not getting it. It seems like we're not getting it anyways. I wanna hear just the first note. This is just the first note. I can't wait to give it away right now. This isn't like Friday, is it? No.

Is this Adele? Oh. Hello? Oh yeah. That's the fastest to a billion views? Yeah. Really? You know how I know that? You didn't. Sorry.

You did not know that. You know how I know that that is true? After hearing that it is true, yeah, now I can verify. My economics professor played it, played the music video for us as we walked in and he said, this song is a banger guys. I just had to let you know this. Wow. That's my, the only teacher who has ever played a music video for me in class. 88 days. And now has 3 billion views. You know what? There were like a hundred of us in that class, so it actually has three billion one hundred

views, but it only got one view from the economics professor. Nice. And he probably watched it a few times. Definitely. Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, there's your random trivia from Marques of the day. Are we down to keep going semi off the rails here? Because I have a question.

We're already so far gone. Because it's the 20th year of the first upload, I wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube and say it out loud here. It can be funny, educational, anything, just one you really enjoy. Okay. Whatever reason. Do you want to go first? Yeah.

Okay. So this is really, really hard, obviously. It is super hard. But one that really sticks out in my head pretty, pretty strongly is the Vsauce video that's called Do Chairs Exist? I feel like we've vaguely talked about this before. I think I've mentioned this video before.

I really liked this video. I think it goes, I think it's like 40% too long, but. Right for Vsauce. Yeah. 1.5x speed fixes that. I think it goes, I think it's like 40% too long. But. Right for Vsauce. Yeah. 1.5x speed fixes that. Well, I actually recently hit three. Let's go.

React. Yeah. New PR. I can only do it on my phone, but I've been doing everything at three recently. Except for Hank videos. Diabolical, dude. Because he already talks fast.

Hank Green already talks very fast. Yeah. Can you watch Philip DeFranco videos? except for Hank videos because he already talks fast. Hank Green already talks very fast. Can you watch Philip DeFranco videos? I have not watched one since like 2015. Yeah, you wouldn't survive long. 3X would just be like a fire hose of information. I will say, so in the spirit of this YouTube thing, I think that's one of my favorite videos.

My most influential channel for me was a channel called Nerdwriter1, which was like the original video essay guy on YouTube before they became... The OG. Before the category became popular. Very nice. You looked pretty excited this morning when you were thinking about... I thought of two. One of them, to me, is the goofy murder trial comic video. But that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it.

I had never seen it until I started working here. I think I've watched it at least 10 times. What about the Evanescence goofy cover? I've watched it. Pro-steam. That's a good answer. But I'll recommend another one that I think most people haven't seen,

which is about 10 years ago, and I shared this on Twitter when it went up, there's a video that got recommended to me called Nobody Tells Us to Beginners. And it is a purely motion graphics video, which is basically just walking through an Ira Glass quote, but it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind,

there's always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is good. And the more you work and close that gap, the better your taste gets and you're always chasing that. And nobody tells that to beginners. So you just, as a beginner, assume you will never reach the level of your taste. But if you zoom out enough, you actually have passed your previous best.

Anyway, it's a minute and a half long. It's very inspiring. We'll link it below. I rewatch it probably at and a half long. It's very inspiring. We'll link it below. I rewatch it probably at least once a year. It's a banger. That's a good one. That quote is great. Did you, he did a,

Ira Glass did an interview recently on that podcast that started from the ashes of Reply All. Hyperfixed? No, the other one. Oh, the PJ Vogue. Search Engine. He's done a couple. Is it on Search Engine?

Search Engine, yeah. He did a podcast called Is It Okay to Just Work All the Time? And it's basically just an interview with Ira Glass, but it is a very inspiring, very interesting interview. I think you should listen to it. I'm gonna download it right now for my flight. Do it. What's it called?

It's called Is It Okay to Just Work All the Time? And the going down there right now. Yeah for my flight. Do it. What's it called? It's called is it okay to just work all the time and the podcast is called search and search engine. Yeah This reddit post about it just says a podcaster interviewing another podcaster about making a podcast It's crazy how reply all ended and birthed two Awesome podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a neutron star Yeah, he has a really good ira glass has a Sorry nerd Ira grass has a glass has a really good quote in that where he's like he's like

Why would I put out anything unless it was incredible? There's enough mid shit on the internet already Let's go Anyway, Andrew, what's yours? unless it was incredible. There's enough mid-sh** on the internet already. Damn. Hell yeah, brother. Let's go. What a bar. Anyway, Andrew, what's yours? I'm kind of between two, but I'll only say one to not make this go on too long. There's this 25 minute documentary

called Remain Seated, Please. And it's just a story about these two friends who loved this ride at Epcot Disney so much called Horizon, which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like. And then they started finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets and they videotaped it

with like an old VHS and then they uploaded it like way later. And it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full-grown adults just like walking around this set of this like futuristic ride and they had to like duck behind so when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it. They spent like years doing it. And it's like this it's this 25 minute documentary where you learn almost nothing, but keeps you entertained the entire time.

So you don't need to be like super. You watch it on 3X. It'd be like seven minutes long then, but yeah. I think it's one of my favorite videos on YouTube. That's a good one. I'm gonna play Ellis' next, cause he's out sick today, but he did send in a video. What is up, pod people? As you know, I'm sick, but he did send in video. What is up pod people as you know I'm sick

But couldn't miss out on this opportunity to drop my favorite YouTube videos out there a Lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the defunct land Disney Channel theme video or The John Boyce Dave Steve video. That's a good John Boyce video my favorite YouTube video That I feel like needs no context is it's called nightclub for deer. I do like You're good, you're good. Yeah, come on. All the deer, come on through. All the deer. All the deer at one time.

Come on, all the deer. More deer! Give me more, more deer, come on, more. Give me some more, even more deer. Come on, come on, all the deer. Wait a minute. Are deer just funny? Because two of the videos I thought of for this

was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband's uses and she's like, thanks Ron. He's like And then there's the other one where the guy's the guys dog chases all the deer Fenton! Fenton, no! Jesus Christ Fenton! I'm gonna need all of these links Cause I don't know what they're talking about No Just in the background Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! Fenton!

Fenton! Fenton! Fenton! That's a lot of deer. That dog saw an opportunity and he took it, dude. He's hurting them. He was like, this is what I was born to do, man. I've got to do it. Somebody got to do it.

He's literally hoarding them like sheep. I changed my answer to that. Jesus Christ, Fenton. Oh, thanks, Ron. I'm glad, sorry. Those are quality. Shout out to YouTube, the purest form of social media. Do you have another one?

I'm crying. That was so funny. Yeah, I think mine is probably, do you guys know Tiny Desk and PR Tiny Desk? Yeah. My favorite one is the Mac Miller one because Mac Miller did a Tiny Desk before passing and he played a couple of like my favorite songs and it's just a beautiful performance overall. So a lot of times I'll just play that in the background while I'm like cleaning the house

or doing things and great performance, highly recommend it. He's got Thundercat on bass, it's pretty epic. But yeah, that one's mine. Hell yeah. How far into the pod are we already? Cause we haven't touched a single news story. We're celebrating YouTube. We are.

We are like 30-ish minutes in. Oh my God, okay. Almost all of these are updates so we can like. We can speed run them after the break, how about that? Okay, cool. It's a long break, but yeah, let's do it. After what break? Alright, we gotta take a quick break. But before we do that, we do have more trivia.

Trivia! Dude! Boop, boop, boop, boop, boom! Yeah. Okay, so, Ellis is out sick again, but I have an Ellis-style question because of it. Oh no. These are all real Google services that I grabbed question because of it. Oh no. These are all real Google services that I grabbed from the Google graveyard.

Oh no. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests? A, grasshopper, B, streams, C, poly, or D, shoelace? Man, they'd just be taking whatever they want. Whatever they want. Polly or D shoelace T bo Yeah, to boo you want to hit scuba. It was 11 months old when when they Wow, it's definitely not Polly I know that let it get to the end of the year Wow Yeah, okay. Well, we'll think about that and let it get to the end of a year. Wow.

Okay. Well, we'll think about that and answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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All right, welcome back. We got a couple more updates to speed run through as we mentioned. First update, which is just kind of a random but funny headline, which is Apple was forced to drop the available now from- Not quite forced, recommended. Strongly- They were recommended to

and smartly complied. The national advertising division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim The company recommended to and smartly complied. The National Advertising Division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim from the Apple Intelligence website. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's super fair. Half available now, but also most, it's a bunch of different things, whatever.

Apple defines Apple Intelligence however they want. Some of it is available now, some of it is not. And so they were recommended to modify or discontinue the claim. They said they disagreed, but they followed. But they went. But the only part of Apple Intelligence that I consider truly available now is Genmoji.

And the writing modification thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it. So I just really, you know, it's just bad for everybody. Image playground. I forgot that would exist. Yeah, that's about how it's. Taking up storage on my phone. I would like to forget about it.

Yeah. So that's all. Just kind of a funny random. Just one more thing, right before dub dub, we'll probably see Apple Intelligence completely. It's been over 10 months since they announced Apple Intelligence and like all the Siri updates and stuff.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They also shuffled the leadership that's handling Apple Intelligence very recently because they're just like, oh God. It's like they brought in a bunch of the Vision Pro team, right? I think that's what Mark Gurman said. Yeah, because regardless of your stance on the Vision Pro,

at least it's a product that is out. It does exist. It does exist. It is available now. It is available now. So, yeah. Shout out to available now. Yeah, that's why they brought it in. But speaking of things on the internet.

Nice. Is it? You could do better. Apple intelligence. I could do better. Surprise Fetiverse corner. You didn't expect that. Yeah, that's what the Fediverse updates, David.

Yeah, okay, so Blue Sky has added verified check marks. Wait, have they actually rolled it out? I thought it was only for certain organizations. Well, that's So they they are very it's okay if you remember how Verified badges used to work on Twitter before verified badges across the internet just became pay-for-play It used to be on Twitter that you could apply for verification People at Twitter would decide is it important that your account is verified so that people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account and someone is not

just impersonating you? Which when it changed to pay for play was very funny because many brands got impersonated by people and caused markets to dip. And that was really funny. It was, it was quite. It was. I'm not disagreeing with you. So now Blue Sky, after a long period of time, has started rolling out their own form of verification, which looks practically exactly the same. They did say that they had gone through many, many iterations of different things like different colors and different shapes, but they landed on the blue check mark because it matches their brand identity

and they said they tested things like green, but that it looked horrible and did not really relate to the Blue Sky brand like at all. So for a little back backstory here, Blue Sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on Blue Sky to just be domain name verification. If you don't know, on Blue Sky there's a thing where if you own your own website, you can basically go into the DNS settings of your website and say, Blue Sky, please use my website as my handle, which is the verifying portion of it. So then when people see your handle, they can see davidnwell.com and kubht.com, and they know that you're the person

that is posting because you own the website. Clearly, that's not super scalable for everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website. Also. No one has their own website. Well, technically you're leasing it from the IANA or whatever but.

Well yeah, but I just mean like we're not the normal people that would have our own website. Yeah, very few people have their own website. My mom does not have a website. Right. I think it's also in general, just scrolling through the app, harder to tell. Because like display name still is bigger and bolder

and easier to see. So something near there versus the handle part of it is more obvious. Right, the handle is kind of there. So they decided, okay, we're officially going to roll this out. Now the way that they are doing it is more obvious. Right, the handle is kind of there. So they decided, okay, we're officially going to roll this out. Now the way that they are doing it is,

number one, Blue Sky themselves, which is Blue Sky the company, which is not the same as Blue Sky the public benefit company, which makes the AT protocol, because Blue Sky the company makes Blue Sky the app. I know it's confusing. They are basically verifying important people that they deem important so that they can make sure

that they don't get spoofed, right? Having it been hit up yet. Yeah, yeah. Flawing the system. I was just looking at my following page. The Onion has a verified check right now. The Verge has a verified check on my page right now. Yeah. There's a journalist

I follow, a tech reporter from New York Times. She has a check. Yeah, I do not have a check. I don't think I've been impersonated yet. Are you MKBHD? Yeah. Can you prove it? No. Yeah. Well, so there's a couple of ways that they're going about this. One, Blue Sky, the company is just verifying people but they're also Rolling out something called trusted verifiers And the idea of this is like, okay If you're the New York Times and you have a lot of reporters and generally when they start verifying people This is the same thing they did on Twitter

They start with journalists and politicians because are that those are the two people that the two types of people that spread news the most the fastest Say Twitter was also very dominated by journalists and politicians Before it even got big so what this does is they basically give an organization like the New York Times the ability to verify People on their team so they say okay We verify the New York Times the New York Times verifies their journalists that sort of allows Them to verify people much quicker And so that's what they're doing right now They surprisingly got a lot of pushback on this a lot of people on on bliss care. We're not too happy about this

Many people said it creates a caste system of popularity. Lords and peasants of lords and peasants, which is what you said. And that's just what he made it pay for play. Why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants? Yeah. How will we solve it? Yeah. So, OK, I talked to blue sky a little bit last night about this because I was like interested in how this worked.

Technically, the verification system is on protocol. It is on the AT protocol. So that means that if you start up another Blue Sky-like application that uses the AT protocol, you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification on your app or not. So part of the differentiating factor of an app that uses the AT protocol could be

that they don't want to show verified badges. If people really are that against it, they can just use something else. It is cool that it's like built into the protocol. Yeah, it was interesting, like Twitter used to have, they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach. I don't think they do.

One of the main complaints I'm seeing here, and just to start, is like, whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach, I don't think they do. I would hope so. One of the main complaints I'm seeing here and just as a starter is like, please don't only put like verified stuff at the top of replies. Yeah. That, cause then it feels like really only catered for. For sure.

Like Twitter, I got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me and I put in like a complaint that was like this person was impersonated me and I put in like a complaint that was like this person's impersonating me and then Twitter verified me. And in like 2013, that was like a big deal. So everything I ever posted had like much bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified

on Twitter way back then. But that's not the case here, I don't think. So I don't know, I don't really see it as that big of a deal, but people don't want there to be a cast system, I guess. Yeah, I think it makes sense on any social network where people are spreading information slash news and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system.

I think a lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the Twitter one that they hate. It looks exactly like it. Which is a blue check mark, whatever, I get it. But yeah, I think it's important to have this system and the fact that it's posted with a protocol is a good thing, so I think it's a win.

I feel like the blue check mark has just outgrown Twitter. Like now it's also on meta. It's everywhere. The hashtag started on Twitter, but now it's everywhere. And the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore because even meta, it's just you pay for it, that's it. On Twitter and meta, you pay for it.

And that's- YouTube has it also. Yeah, it does. But you don't pay for that. No, you don't pay for that. I'm still confused with the music badges though. I feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately.

I see that a lot too. And I don't know what that- I think it just means you're like a verified artist on YouTube that uploads to YouTube music or something like that. Yeah, I think it's fine. I think it's fine. I think it's, yeah, don't make it pay to win.

Yeah. The one thing right now is like, you can't request to be verified and they are just kind of going through the people that they think are worth verifying. So I think it's pretty much, at least in this initial wave, just going to be politicians and journalists because they're verifying all the publications

and the publications verify their journalists. Hank Green's verified. Yeah. Yeah, well. He's Hank Green, though. He's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky, so that would make sense. Yeah.

In other news, we have the official pre-order date for Nintendo Switch 2. Nintendo Switch 2. In the US. Oh boy. And if you were listening to this on Friday. It already passed. You probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2

if this is news to you, because it is Thursday the 24th. Yeah. Big thing about this, pricing $449, there are some price increases on a bunch of different accessories ranging from five to $10. I think Joy-Cons and Pro controllers are both $5 more expensive. Some of the cameras are more expensive. So yeah, your little bundle you buy when you buy one is going to be pretty pricey.

Yeah, but they didn't raise the price of the console, which is good. I also read that most GameStops are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles, which is, that's a lot. That's a lot. That really feels like a lot. I think I read somewhere on Twitter that eight years ago, they were getting between like five and 30 consoles a store.

There's also half as many GameStops as there used to be. So that could be part of the reason. Your local GameStop may have a line. It's like 11 a.m. in store. But still like Walmart, Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th. Yeah, so it's midnight ET on the 24th in the United States. Was it, I thought?

Yeah, midnight ET. GameStop is different. But the other ones. E-T phone home. So tonight, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well ones. E.T. phone home. So tonight, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's tonight at midnight, which is kind of crazy. And speaking of GameStop, they actually do have some pretty sick trade-in deals. You can get $125 for an original Switch, which, considering they originally only costed $300,

and that was eight years ago, is a pretty good trade-in. I would say I think it's awesome because we're all complaining about the price. If you trade one in, you're getting it for about the same price as this as the switch one 325 instead. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. If it's good. Do you do need to bring in the original HDMI cord is said, which I thought was funny and might pass a lot of people out. Which I don't know if I have. I don't have. That is hilarious.

Wait, so you need the original HDMI cable. I don't know, it just listed the stuff because it needs the console, the dock, the power cord, which also could be a USB-C cord if you lost the original. There's no way anyone has the original HDMI cable. I think I do. I mean, some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it, so they probably still have it. Oh, okay, yeah, I guess if that's the one you're using, then maybe that's HDMI cable. I think I do. I mean, some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it, so they probably still have it.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess if that's the one you're using, then maybe that's the cable. I have a way longer cable. It's like 15 feet long. Yeah, like I had a cable already, so I definitely, I don't know what I did with that cable. Yeah.

You can also get $175 for Switch OLED trade-ins. I have an OLED, but I'm probably not gonna trade it. You can get $100 for Switch Lite trade-ins. So I was just gonna ask, are you guys gonna pre-order? I literally go back and forth every single day, dude. I'm like, I don't know. I bet at some point tomorrow, I will look at one of the pre-orders and if it's available,

I'll have a very hard time not doing it, mostly because FOMO right there. Yeah, yeah. I think I'm in the same boat where I'm not gonna try really hard to pre-order but if I happen to Stumble on one that's available. Yeah happen to go to best buy them Game stop and that's what happened to me when I bought my switch

Oh lead because they were literally impossible to find for like weeks and I randomly went on best spy comm and I was like what? Available near you and I was like, huh? So I put in my cart for pickup and I showed up to Best Buy and the guy's like, oh my God, how did you get this? Like when he was like checking me out, he's like, how did you manage to, did you use like an app to,

and I was like, are you a botter? It was just on the internet, my guy, it was just there. Another interesting note is that Nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in Japan because it got 2.2 million applications for pre-orders for the Switch 2. For reference, it sold 360,000 in Japan in the first month when the Switch 1 came out.

So this is about six times that demand, which is absolutely insane. And it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on June 5th. Yeah, so they just kind of, you just fill out a form. And it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on June 5th. Yeah. So they just kind of, you just fill out a form. This isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything. This is the like, no, no, no, no.

This is like registering interest through the My Nintendo Store to pre-order. Oh, well, that's something. Yeah. Wow. Andrew, I had a question for you about this that you might know more than me about. Doubt it, but let's go. My question is, like immediately after the announcement video, you were able to sign

up for pre-ordering it through the My Nintendo Store thing, but it was signed up for interest. And then there was that whole thing where like you could, if you had 50 hours of playtime and you had one year of Nintendo Switch Online, you would be able to pre-order. Yeah, I thought there was like a sign up for the pre-pre-order. Like it almost feels like the like capital one early ticket thing.

Yeah, what was gonna happen was that you were gonna be able to, those people were gonna be able to pre-order a day before everybody else on my Nintendo store, and then they stopped pre-orders in the US altogether and pushed them to tomorrow. So my question is, is that whole thing just gone? That's the last I heard of it. I haven't seen anything about that.

I'm not like, you know, refreshing every day, but I have not heard anything about that. Because I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-order. No, I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit. I very well could have missed it. I like every couple days go on there and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on. But yeah, I don't know if they ever got to do anything with that because of all the delays. Interesting. Interesting. And then you had one more thing here. We have a couple more. Oh, that's if you're interested in trading in, I was just reading that I thought it was interesting. If you have like the OG Switch one, if you're interested in trading in, I was just reading that I thought was interesting.

If you have like the OG Switch One, apparently they're super popular in the modding community because they're like the only one you can mod. So I've saw people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks. So if you need a different way to make some money for Switch Two, that could be a way. I think like the modding thing only works

if you hadn't like updated the software past a certain amount. Could be, I'm not totally sure. I just thought it was. What if I just used the money to short GameStop instead? Guaranteed. This is not financial advice. You couldn't tell.

All right. But speaking of financial advice, Google could probably use some, I don't know, that's terrible. I'm available, Google. We got an antitrust update in the US versus Google case. And what is that? So we all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly.

And they're in the process of figuring out how the US government's going to fix it. So the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things. One is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement. Reference to how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually. Amazon has their own search engine. I missed it.

No, you just said prime search engine placement. Oh, you very much confused me. I was like, wait, what? But yeah, we, we, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple to be that. They want Google to divest Chrome. The judge said it's the starting point of 35% of all user queries and has over 4 billion users. And then they also would like to require Google

to license its search data to competitors that would want it. So obviously they still make money through that, through the licensing fee, but obviously Google wants that information for themselves. Monetarily, it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get to do, even though they could make a ton of money off of it.

So Google's pushing back to almost everything they said above. However, they did kind of agree with parts of the striking deals and not being like a, a exclusive default search engine, which is, but the DOJ is like, cool, you can kind of agree with us on that, but you already have created such a like impossible lead over through these like created such a like impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics that like I think we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable. Yeah, this is place that you're in right now. This is the interesting part to me, which is always like, okay, Google's established this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead or whatever now they are like the search engine that people choose and

Google still continues to pay Apple 20 billion dollars a year to be the default search engine in Safari What if they didn't? Would what would Apple do? I think the concern is that Apple would just Turn on their own search engine. They've had ready for a very long time. I think that's a possibility, but I don't know that, like, does Google really think that that's what's gonna happen? I just don't know that people would,

well, would iPhone users be cool with, oh, I just typed in a search box to Google something and this other search engine came up for some reason. I don't think they'd care. Really? I really don't. I think there would be a lot of memes, if it was Bing tomorrow,

like how many people would just be like, what? I guess Bing to be fair, looks a lot like Google. I think Bing has a lot of negative connotations for everybody at this point. So I kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from that. I think the biggest thing is if we're talking just like average person who has a phone, how many of them would know how to change the defaults?

They might literally be stuck in whatever that, and that's hundreds of millions of people. And I just don't think a lot of people care. I don't know, because a lot of people still buy Microsoft computers and they open up Edge to download Chrome. There's also a lot of people who have Microsoft computers and just use Edge because it's there and Bing is the default

and they have no idea. But Chrome is the most popular browser. Yeah, it is. It's not the default on any computer other than Chromebooks. Where it is the OS. So people do seek out Chrome and seek out Google. That is true. So I just feel like if Google stopped paying Apple tomorrow,

obviously Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain it at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing, but I just wonder, would people, well, I think it would, my point is, I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while. Sure, but I think it's also, the fact that Google's paying them $20 billion a year

proves how important that defaultness is. Well, more so like- Google's an ads business. So why would they wanna not pay 20 billion to find out? You know, like, I'd rather just pay 20 billion. That's how important it is. There's also 20 billion a year. How much has a 20 billion been negotiated where it was like, give us 100 billion,

and Google's like, no, we'll give you 20 billion. Yeah. All right. There's also, I think it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits necessarily. And if they're getting more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google search,

if that dropped by even 20%, all of a sudden, like Google searches dropped by 20% looks terrible in their stock tanks. Yeah. It's just a lot of nuanced stuff. How much would it drop? That's the question. It's just a lot of nuance. How much would it drop? That's the question. I think by a lot, honestly.

My mom would not go to Google.com on her iPhone. But if they open up search on the iPhone after Google stops paying, what does Apple do? Do they just leave it at Google? Who knows? I think they just leave it at Google. They default it to something with the options of doing it in the settings, which most people never find. Or they take money from someone else, I don't know.

I do think that Apple has an incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now. Yeah, by far. Compared to Bing. Yeah. I feel like they clearly are willing to do something else though because they're getting paid to do it.

Yeah. Yeah. I bet Apple has like a fully fledged, really good product that is just ready to go. That's gotta be. That they just don't think would make more than $20 billion. Yeah. And they don't wanna get into the complexities

of running an ads business. With privacy way more at the forefront in their eyes. Because that's what a search engine is, it's an ads business. So we think, so we think Apple has the ability to launch a full fledged search product tomorrow. Yes. But doesn't do it now because taking 20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is fine. I think that to them, that's less complicated than like getting into the advertising business

and they could do it and they could make it probably make a lot of money but in the like you said like the security stuff and the data privacy. I feel like if the government just told Apple you can no longer have Google be the default they would just make like a super private browser. I don't think it would be we're not dealing with this at all. I don't think they would tell them Google can't be the default. It would be Google can't pay you to be the exclusive. Well, either way, I just mean like Apple,

I don't think would wanna be bothered with any of this. Well, also think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser that is the default. Because they would definitely come after Apple and be like, you can't do that. Well, not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising monopolistic things. Yeah, right now, Android., you can't do that. Well, not if they're not doing any kind of advertising monopolistic things.

Yeah, right now, Android. Because they wouldn't do an advertising business. Yeah, Android phones, Chrome is the default. Google is the default search engine. Yeah. And that, obviously, is a big point of contention with Chrome. But let's say Safari is the default, and Apple Search is the default search engine.

And they're not the biggest search provider, so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet. Is that fine for now, I guess? It seems like that'd be fine. I just don't, I don't know. It seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new business today that is that massive, that has threatened their biggest competitor,

but doesn't do it. Well, you know, the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with the Internet Explorer. I could totally see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like, you know, never explaining the Google Chrome thing, but just being like, we have this new browser,

super private, on your phone, doesn't go anywhere, and they're just like, we're just not gonna deal with this. It could be the same browser, just search engine. It could be the same browser, but just like the search engine, we've built a search engine. Yeah, or like, just to like, get around all this. It could be the same browser. We're just not gonna deal with this. Just search engine. It could be the same browser, but just like the search engine. We've built a search engine.

Yeah, just to like get around all this. It could be under, I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like, yeah, we've got Siri. Oh god, that's Siri search. So if you wanna search for stuff, there's Siri search. And it's super private and no one can sell you ads

based on what you search, et cetera, et cetera. Wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you, would you? Exactly. Use Safari. True. Well, the rest of this is pretty much about data. Satya Nadella testified during this.

I don't know why. I think that's so funny that he's like, the only way to build a great search engine is with unobtainable amounts of search data. And Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves, which no s***. The CEO of Microsoft is like, yes, please let me buy that data. Yeah. And then what's also funny is, kind of related to Microsoft is, during the trial, the head of product from OpenAI

mentioned that they would be interested in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale, which now is very funny because is their boss not in the room with them? Who makes Bing? Satya's like, you'd what? You would what? Shame if something happened to our investment. I just thought that was so funny

and also please God no, open AI, don't buy Chrome. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, speaking of antitrust suits. Another one. Let's keep the good times going. BJ Cowell. Apple and Meta just got hit with really big

DMA antitrust fines. If you remember, the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like, you cannot do these things. The big thing for Apple was third party app stores was a major thing, where Apple eventually complied, but they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible to the point where It basically penalized you a ton if you were willing to put your app on a third-party app store in the European Union

And made it like worse for most people so The EU is not happy about that malicious compliance and they find Apple 570 million dollars for violating the DMA, which is crazy. And it says that has 60 days to basically remedy this. So that's not too good for Apple. We'll see what happens there. They're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just fully open it up without any consequences. It'll be interesting to see if Apple actually complies with that.

The EU's actually also not happy with Meta for a very similar reason. It was charging Facebook and Instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to get rid of all of the ads that were being shown there, or they could use their personal data to kind of like have ad-supported versions on the platform. And Meta's solution was to, in the EU, was to allow free users to see fewer unskippable

full-screen ads. But the EU is not too happy about that either. So both of them got hit with huge fines. Apple's fine was 570 million. Meta's fine was about half that, but they could basically be continue, they could continue to get fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days.

It's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine, yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to Google. 20 million to Google. Yeah, it doesn't feel like such a big fine. That's crazy. Yeah, so I mean, most of these companies will take the fines if it means they're making more money

by doing the thing they're not supposed to do. That's just generally how it works, because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrents. This seems quite a bit bigger, 570 million that they have to pay right now. They're going to appeal it, obviously, but that seems like a bigger deterrence than they usually get hit with.

So we'll see how that plays out. This is like when you see like a Ferrari parked in like a do not park thing and it just has like four tickets on a dash. I don't care. It's more convenient for me to be parked illegally. And then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies. It came out that Google pays an enormous amount of money

to Samsung to have Gemini pre-installed on its phones. This does not shock me at all. Yeah. Yeah. They seem to be very close partners in a lot of ways. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, at the Pixel event,

they literally showed Gemini on the Galaxy S24 Ultra. At Google I.O., they regularly demo exclusive features on Samsung phones. They'll probably do it again this year. We knew that they had a very close partnership, but it seems like it's been getting closer and closer, and now we have actual evidence that they have been paying them a lot of money. So apparently Google has been paying Samsung an enormous amount

of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's phone. So that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series. It also gives Samsung a percentage of revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in the Gemini app. Me neither. So I'm not really sure what that means. It could be a future thing. It could be a future thing.

But the judge actually ruled that this violates antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior. So Google's not in the best situation right now. This coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of the search engine. Yeah, you know what? They're just doing it with AI instead.

Yeah. You know what I just thought of? What? Open AI has been working on this search product. Maybe if Google wasn't paying. Careful Marques, careful. Maybe if Google buys. If Google wasn't paying Samsung,

Samsung would just like switch it to Open AI's product. This says they had offers from OpenAI and Microsoft as well. Yeah, so maybe in a world today where Google stops paying Apple to be the default search engine in Safari, OpenAI is like, I want that deal, I wanna be the search.

We know it's funny is like Safari kind of got dumber when they added, not Safari, Siri, sorry. Siri kind of got dumber when they added, not Safari, the Siri, sorry, Siri kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration. ChatGPT integration. There's been like multiple cases that people post online of like, Hey Siri, what day of the week is it? And it'll be like, do you want me to ask ChatGPT for that? It's literally the Bixby April Fool's video we did where it's like, it can't answer it. I'm literally gonna ask someone else. Yeah.

We were ahead of our time with that joke. Yeah. So. I just wanna say, my chat GPT experience lately, it's few and far between, and it has been miserable every time. Really? Every time it's like,

hey, can you do this thing? And I'll do it, do it, do it. And then I'll be like, can you do one more? That's against our policy. Why is it against your policy? And I'll do it, do it, do it. And then I'll be like, can you do one more? That's against our policy. Why is it against your policy for this reason? Cool. Do it without that reason. That is against our policy. Perfect example. I was like trying to explain to Tim a thumbnail I wanted to make. And it was just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all

over the place. Okay. So it did a pretty good job at creating that. And then I said, can you make this in, look like a YouTube thumbnail? And it throws the YouTube logo on and some texts that looked terrible. I said, can you please take that off and change the text to this? And then first it says, you've run out of requests

for today, because I don't have pro. Please come back in 24 hours. That was Friday. I come back Monday. I ask it to remove it. It says, you've run out of requests. And it's had to do that three times. I said, that was three days ago.

I'm past the time limit. It said, you're right. And then it, and then it said, let me try to do that generating image. And it said, this is against our policy. So I said, why? And it said, there was a logo involved in it and they can't do anything with logos.

So I said, you put the logo in. In fact, I'm asking you to take it out. Said, whoa, you're right. I did put that in and you are just asking to put that, take it out. What should I, let me get on with that. And then it says generate an image, says that is against our policy.

And then I just gave up. I'm like not doing this anymore. So yeah, that was my last chat GP experience. Wow. It's terrible. That sounds horrible. If only you had a Samsung phone that you could just. So yeah, that was my last chatupi experience. Wow. It was terrible. That sounds horrible. If only you had a Samsung phone that you could just. If only I had an image playground.

Yeah. Yeah. Then you can make a good cartoon. All right. Yeah, okay. Well, we will take another quick break. We do have, of course, our trademarked, have we trademarked it?

No. Our trademarked. I mean, just kidding. We have. Don't look. Our patent pending final segment last month called Crown or Clown. And Clown.

Crown and Clown. So we're gonna get to that after the break, but of course we should do one more round of trivia. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, ba, ba, ba. Okay, trivia. Trivia. Question two.

Twitter announced a public verification system. In what year? Asterisk, it was discontinued that same year because they received too many requests. Oh, but when did they launch it? The public one. Oh, like you can request it publicly? Just being able to request or like, oh.

Is that where there's like a verified account and you had to like, what happened? Like what was the point? They got too many people requesting and they were like, we don't have that many employees. In the settings, there was like a form you could fill out. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.

I didn't know about that. I was verified after it shut down somehow. Oh, nice. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, because there was still a, this person's impersonating me form, and I filled that out, and they were like, oh, we're just gonna verify it.

I got verified like two weeks before they made it paid. And I was like, well, there goes that. Oh, really? And then everyone was like, look at this loser, I don't know, check. That's funny. And then you had to pay to put it. Oh no, I did not pay, they just removed it.

No, yeah. All right, well, we'll think about it. Oh no, I did not pay. They just removed that. Yeah. All right. All right, well, we'll think about it. Answers at the end. We'll be right back. Okay. Flights on Air Canada. How about Prague? Ooh, Paris.

Those gardens. Gardens. Amsterdam. Tulip Festival. I see your face. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport.

I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. I'm gonna go to the airport. How about Prague? Ooh, Paris. Those gardens. Gardens. Amsterdam. Tulip Festival.

I see your festival and raise you a carnival in Venice. Or Bermuda has carnaval. Ooh, colorful. You want colorful. Thailand. Lantern Festival. Boom. Book it.

How did we get to Thailand from Prague? Oh right, Prague? Oh right! Prague! Oh boy. Choose from a world of destinations. If you can. Air Canada. Nice travels.

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I remind the the I'm just gonna say the users. Yeah, I guess I will At the end of every month we do a crown Which is something we thought was the best thing that happened this month and a clown which is something we thought was the dumbest thing That happened this month We try really hard to keep it within the month. We'll see how we go. We need to be a little more streamlined of this and we're working on it, which probably means we won't be.

But okay. One hour later. I will pitch, I think the crown of April is the Nintendo Switch. That's what I was gonna say. It's really hard not to say it. As much as people gave it crap for pricing and there's been some delays,

I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things. Yeah, my argument is. And I'm very, it's the thing I'm the most excited about. Have they? Because it's not even out yet. What if it's just a break? I mean, we will see.

It's announced. It's always been for June. It actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet. Yeah. Yet. No, no, I know, but I mean, like, what if we get it and it sucks? Well, okay.

They could still screw up the, because they said they fixed the stick drift, but it's not hall effect, so I don't know if I fully believe them on that. But a lot of the other things were good, minus pricing and some of the game card keys, but also like, and I didn't know this, apparently a lot of Xbox and PlayStation games have been doing this for a long time without the physical key.

It's just a download code inside the box. So this is a better version of that. I totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later. So I think they did a good job. Digital Foundry did a very in-depth thing about the Switch 2 that they put out two days ago and I would recommend going to Look at that. They have a bunch of videos and also write-ups about it That is a long article. It's super in depth and they have a bunch of they have videos for like every portion of that Is it generally it's generally positive? Yeah, they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and yeah So interesting it's generally very positive. All right, David. What's your crown? Well, it was supposed to be switched to I mean It still can be switched to because we have to agree anyway

Yeah, we have to agree so you could just double up if you want I'm not saying it's good because I don't know because I've never even touched it That's what I'm saying, but I do think only one person in this room has touched it. I Have touched it Thanks for clarifying What other positive things have happened this month? Nothing, literally nothing. I have some.

Yeah, what's yours? Okay, well, I have two. One of them is not really a thing. One of them was a Volvo EX90, which we reviewed this month, but it didn't come out this month, so it was probably not going to win. But I just find something else. Nice car. In a month of April, scientists at Zhejiang University and the University of Cambridge built much,

much smaller individual pixels on an LED display. Record breaking amount actually. They achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nanometers wide. You wouldn't know about this. And it's hard to explain how small 90 nanometers wide. You wouldn't know about this. And it's hard to explain how small 90 nanometers is, but they've been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over. But this 90 nanometer wide pixel

achieved a pixel density of 127,000 pixels per inch. Which is pretty sick. Virus size pixels. Obviously, sick virus size It makes oil paintings look pixelated is how they described it now obviously There's a lot of challenges that come from Having pixels that small from running it drivers driving it rightness to whatever all these other things But I just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are. If a human hair was a skyscraper, a 90 nanometer object would be a single floor tile.

Floor tile, not floor. Like thickness? Floor tile, yeah. But like, is the floor tile standing up, or is it? Human hair, sideways, skyscraper. Well, what length of human hair? It's the width of the human hair. That's a great question. The width of the human hair. Oh, fuck. The width of a human hair is a skyscraper. Well, how, what, what length of human hair? It's the width of the human hair.

The width of a human hair is a skyscraper. Another way of looking at it, if a red blood cell were a soccer ball, a single pixel would be a grain of sand. Wow. That one seems not as crazy. Yeah. But red blood cells, you have to know how small a red blood cell is.

Right, cause I see blood, but I don't know how big this- Red blood cells are pretty small compared to a single hair. Thanks. A pool, yeah, I don't know. So anyway, yeah, 127,000 pixel wrench display is my crown of the month. Hold on, I just want to say,

you guys said it can't be the Switch 2 because I haven't seen it yet, and then you bring out this science-breaking lab only. You can see it. No, no, I'm saying you guys said it to me. No, no, no, I don't think it yet. And then you bring out this like science breaking lab only No, no, I'm saying you guys said it to me No, no, no I don't think that's a I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it because we've had previous crowns That are things we haven't seen. I'm I agree. Yeah, I never said you had to have seen it. I said I had to be out This is a lab. Yeah, it's out. Yeah, it includes one of them exists

Just okay. I see your point and Andrew, and I'm choosing to ignore it. Somehow someone can get us access to making a video on that, though. That would be sick. Just saying. I'm pretty sure we would do that. Microscopes. Yeah, electron microscopes.

I'll drop a link in the Slack so you guys can get this thing. A probe lens. Because it's pretty. That's how those work, right? The ultimate probe lens. Speaking of Slack, I'm gonna tell you what Ellis's crown is for the month.

He discovered that there are now HDR emojis in Slack. This is not a crown, my friend. He thinks it's a crown. It is not. HDR emoji. It looks horrible. If you're scrolling through on Slack, you'll see a regular emoji,

and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen, which is the other one. It looks broken. Wait, I'm gonna post it. Yeah, I'm gonna put it in Slack. Yeah, can you please post it? It's in the waveform. It just looks broken.

Jesus. It's like glowing on yours. Yeah. I think it's because I'm in dark mode on Slack. Yeah. You're scrolling and just beaming. I feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my vision. It's definitely an SDR on my computer,

which I'm happy about. Wow. Is Alex saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his blanket and just getting blinded randomly in the middle of the room? Is this his crown? This is his crown. That's what I said.

That's what I said. What? He thinks this is awesome. Okay, well I don't. I think this should be eligible for the clown. Does he have a clown separately? His clown is- It's gonna be something amazing.

No, it's basically Apple getting dinged for removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part. Oh. Yeah. That's a clown? He said that's his clown. That's a good thing. Well, that they had it up in the first place. Okay, yeah. Yeah, that's a clown. It's hard to keep said. That's his clown. That's a good thing It's well that they had it up in the first place. Okay, interesting. I Asked Gemini what are the best things that happen in consumer technology in April 2025 and it said the Apple M4 chip launched

And the just not it did not launch this month the bard upgrade Bart. That might be a three years ago. Gemini literally called itself it's old. You're asking Gemini, which is what Bard was. And it said, yeah, the Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 model. AI travel planning. Wow, this is horrible. None of these are true.

Tick. So I love AI. At this point for crown, we're reduced to the switch to or the ground breaking new technology. The 127,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji. Imagine the HDR emoji on. On that display.

Crisp. Crisp. Cooked, eyes cooked. Eyes cooked. Vectors, I would say all kinds of vectors. What about the Beats cables? That was one of those mid things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening. But I thought you said it was the biggest story of the year.

Oh, I did say that, didn't I? I was lying. Damn. Elephant in the... I thought you were serious. I mean, it's hard to vote against. I feel like every time I just give up on my answer, but how about it is a pretty cool screen. I have a question.

Okay. All those pictures look like they were green pixels only. Can the pixels dotnet change colors? Don't worry about it. If it's green only, what do you mean green only? I don't know. Are they green? How about article?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Nevermind. David was looking at something else. What about Sam Altman potentially buying his own company? Clown. You already said yours. Yours is the Switch 2.

Yeah, it's the Switch 2. Okay. I think it's the Switch 2. Come on. It's probably the Switch 2. It's like the biggest, it's the most talked about thing this month. Which doesn't necessarily mean. That isn't negative.

There was a lot of negative stuff about it, but I think some of it was blown out of proportion. And some of it's totally reasonable criticism. All right, I'll fold. I'll go switch too. Let's go. Let's go. One point for Andrew.

What is the clown then? The clown. The Tariffs. Tariffs. Reciprocal Tariffs. They came out the same day actually. Very subtle. The clown came out the same day.

Damn, that's a good point. I was gonna go Blue Origin PR style. Oh yes. Nevermind, I lose. Actually, I think that's it. That was my clown. What about 23andMe selling their data? They sold it?

Going bankrupt. Has it happened yet? Did it get sold? That was not a clown yet. That was last month. I know, but remember last month we were like, April clown. It get sold? That was not a cloud. It hasn't happened yet. That was last month. I know, but remember last month we were like, April clown. It's like the buyer could be horrible, but it-

Yeah, they haven't sold yet. Okay, cool, perfect. So yeah. I think Blue Origin is the best one. I think Adam's got one, but it's a hard one to top. Okay, so my clown then is something that I just realized yesterday, which is that my phone number has been tied up

in iMessage for like two months now since I switched to the Pixel. So you've missed a thousand messages? Ellis texted me and on Slack he's like, yo, I texted you and I'm like, no you didn't. And then I saw it pop up on the Messages app in my computer and then when I opened that up, there was like 30 missed messages.

And I was like, how is this still a problem? How are we still dealing with this? This is along the lines of that tech question I had maybe two or three weeks ago, which is like the RCS thing not working on my phone. Which I think on the iPhone, you have to turn off. Yeah, I did. I didn't do it on my laptop, which is a separate thing.

And that's why it all went to my laptop. So this is why I still carry two phones. Did you figure it out? I haven't figured it out, but it has gradually started working with more and more threads I've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues I know you said you tried some of them, but there were people some of them were like Oh, I tried you had to like sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this. Yep No, I went through the comments. I tried basically everything everyone was suggesting

and nothing was working. And then a couple of days later, I tried an RCS message to someone, I usually RCS message and it worked. And I was like, oh, oh, RCS. And then I tried another thread and it's like SMS. Thank you for keeping that. Adam, that's crazy because like,

Ellis and Brandon must also have had their, I messaged things like mess up because they never respond to me either So Brandon was one of the people that I had gotten a message from him like three weeks ago And then I had to reply like sorry can can you resend all this because it's stuck on my computer now Yeah, very annoying. I didn't text you so yeah, you never text me. I just try telegram. Yeah, which is terrible You never text me. I just try Telegram, which is terrible. Clown. That's the clown. That's the true clown.

That's the world-wide clown. David's still using Telegram. I don't have these problems that you are both having, you know? All I do is get a bunch of fake spam messages every day. I like it that way. Are we in agreement? Crown is switched to clown is Blue Origin?

Yeah, I think that's April 2025 right there. Yeah, there's April. Oh, that's pretty, we should do a year long calendar. The end of the year. At the end of the year, that's a calendar and it has the crown and clown from every month. We'll collect them all. Yeah.

Gotta collect them all. June is probably also gonna be switched to. Switched to two. Switched to two, the switching. We'll see how June goes. Either way, hey, that's been it. We should do the trivia questions. Oh yeah.

Trivia, dude. Okay, let's run through this. You did not wait for it. 127,000 pixels per inch. That's crazy. Per inch? That's insane. Okay, the sphere in Las Vegas is about to shutter.

Imagine the sphere in Las Vegas at 127,000 PPI. Yeah, in HDR. No. It would look, the space would look like this slack HDR. The sphere in Las Vegas looks like an HDR emoji from a plane. Ugh, yeah. The rest of the city's kind of dim

and there's just a blasting one in the middle. It also has emojis on it, on the sphere. That's exactly it, that's what it is, it's an HDR emoji. I was in a hotel in Vegas a couple months ago and I opened my windows in the morning and it was just the giant emojis there back at me. That's it.

All right, so these are all Google services grabbed from the Google Graveyard. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others? Who share your interests? And lasted 11 months and it lasted 11 months a grasshopper B streams C poly or D shoelace A grasshopper no no was the question again Oh, which of these was an app that was used

to find group activities with others who share your interests? I'm so mad that I changed my answer, which means the first one was definitely right. Whenever I do that, I just cross it out so that the world knows that I actually thought the right answer. Nice, okay. Okay, we have different answers here.

All right. Who wants to go first? I don't know the answer so I can guess. I said grasshopper. Grasshopper? Yeah. Incorrect. That's what I had't know the answer so I can guess. I said grasshopper. Grasshopper? Yeah. Incorrect. That's what I had at first.

Andrew and I both put shoelace. You both put shoelace. Well, I put D, was that shoelace? Yeah. It was. Okay. Yeah, cause you go, you gotta lace up your shoes to go do an activity. Well, is that why you thought? That's why I thought it, right?

It's to find new activities. So I'm gonna go do my activity with my friend. I sort of remember this launching cause it was only a couple of years ago, right? 20, wait, let me find it. One second. Also what was option? 2020, it shut down.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Also what was option A? Grasshopper. Grasshopper. What was B? Streams. What was C?

Poly. Yeah, okay. What was D? Grasshopper is a thing in Google? He said they're all not anymore. They were all things about they're all dead. Well, I look they got the point All right question two. Yeah, nothing about this shoelace app screams Google at all. Really? Yeah I think it looks like it was made in Canva. Yeah Worst thing you can say. Yeah.

It looks like you made this in Canva. This episode is sponsored by Canva. That would be really funny. They probably did make it in Canva. Oh, God. Okay. Twitter announced the public verification system in what year? Public verification system. The PV.

And then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year. My pen is like not working at all, but here, just do this. Yeah, here, right over it. I'll give you an extra point if you get the month. Ooh. Okay. Okay. All right, flip them and read. What do we got? And once again, guessing. Okay. All right, flip them and read.

What do we got? And once again, guessing. Okay. Oh, I went way later than both of you. We'll go in order. I guess June, 2012. Incorrect. Are we just closest here?

Sure, sure. Let's do closest Delta. I did March, 2014. March, 2014? Delta. Okay. I did March, 2014. March, 2014? Yeah. Nope. Wow. I did June, 2021.

June, 2021. What? Wrong one. Incorrect. I think you were thinking of Elon's verification. When did he buy it? 2021? Was it 2021?

Or was it 2022? I thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like, I am blank, blank, blank, blank. That was a long time before that. That's when they brought it back. This is the first time. Yeah.

Okay. Then I was thinking that. The correct answer was July 2016. So David gets the point. Let's go. 2016, wow, that's late. That is late. I knew I was thinking of the second one.

I thought I got verified in 2015. You probably got verified before the public request. Cool. Yep, all right, that was it. Quick update on the score, Marques 18, Andrew nine, David 21, David, you can legally drink now. Let's go. I'm older than YouTube. You're older than the oldest YouTube video. That's right can legally drink now. Let's go. I'm older than YouTube.

You're older than the oldest YouTube video. That's right. That's right. Or not older. Also- You got more points? Yeah, the day this goes live, I'll be 10 years older than this YouTube. Oh yeah, everyone say happy birthday to David.

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