Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Our Favorite Ordinary Objects!

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

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We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. And hopefully no tech this week. bonus episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts i'm marquez i'm andrew and i'm david and hopefully no tech this week this this you know usually right here is where we talk about all the tech stories we're going to talk about today is the opposite our goal today is to talk about no tech notice there's no laptops in front of any of us nothing video viewers have already

picked up on the lack of tech i mean we still have microphones but we do what's the theme for this episode so we were thinking of a bonus episode to do for this month. And I kind of came up with this idea, which we elaborated on a bit more, which was we asked every single person, including us inside of the studio to bring in something that they enjoy that has the least amount of tech possible. So this is kind of the opposite of what we do in every single piece of content we've pretty much ever made we like we like new technological things let's look at some things that people like that do not involve tech this is our tech detox episode tech detox show and tell show and tell but along that we have to make it kind of game showy so um we're giving each person five minutes

to pitch their object we are allowed to ask questions during that our goal at the end of this episode is to all vote the four of us here on which we think is the coolest but also the least technologically advanced um and one last thing ellis whipped up for us is we all have a button in front of us we're calling this the that is tech button also no one in the studio knows about this button yet i don't think okay so when they come in if their way of explaining their item involves tech in any ways we press this and tell them that is tech tech okay bad it's actually quite hard to come up with objects that are not really considered technology not only is it hard we gave you guys extremely minimal amount of time to think of this one day i think monday we decided to make

it and yesterday is when we told everyone to bring something in so yeah minimal time yeah well uh we can just jump right into it yeah let's start with us gonna start um do you want to start marquez i think you start that's a lot of pressure but i'll go first i don't actually have my item with me because it was far too large and heavy for me to bring oh and that i could okay so i little backstory went to music school have a degree in music unfortunately and um love playing music obviously it's not my career at the moment because i'm here with you lovely people but uh i okay well you know sometimes it's funny my devil my music industry friends do not consider this working in music and then my non

music industry friends just cannot tell the difference between any of the different entertainment fields so depends on who you ask anyway i wanted to play music at home i live in a small brooklyn apartment a piano was not really oh he's ready a piano was not really feasible um so i got i'm gonna use the d word i did get a digital oh that's yeah but hear me out hear me out hear me out okay okay i specifically wanted something that was not gonna go in my music studio i wanted something that was gonna go in my living room would never get plugged into a professional piece of gear would never be used on a track would never be used it's like this is purely for fun and so i sought out the only digital piano i could find that had both uh speakers built in and and but here's the thing and no screen every no i said no screen

every single every single digital piano on the market has this little like lcd screen which in my opinion makes it completely ineligible as a living room piece because then you have this little tiny like it's it sucks and so here i have i pulled up a picture i've seen this piano and it is a beautiful piece of machine yeah it like in essence it is tech but in spirit can i ask a question absolutely do you have to turn it on say it so many things are tech it's hard like not only do you have to turn it on but you have to wait for the tubes to warm up yeah that's i feel like that qualifies as not it's not tech that's tech it yes yes i have to turn it on yes it's tech but i chose that one specifically because it is the least tech the least tech without spending like eight grand on an award this is

like so if like you're smoking there's going cold turkey which is what we're talking about this is like the vape this is of technology this is like you slowly getting away from the tech aspect i know but that is a really pretty piano what's it called uh that is the korg sv2 sp73 with speakers made by a really cool company called k-array from italy it's a sony level name part of me was hoping one of the companies would have the word tech in it and i was ready for that no no no thankfully i didn't get get got that hard but yeah it's a really cool piece um if you are thinking of buying this here's what i will say it's perfect i love it there is one flaw that no one in any of the reviews mentioned like i watched so many reviews before buying this no one mentioned this so you heard it here first uh all the sounds in it are in stereo which rules because it has left and right speakers

and it sounds very alive oh okay i see i see now how wrong this is i'm saying anyway would you put the effects wow this is just i'm just gonna stop doing the button no no it's fair i just need to get this out because because no one mentioned this in any of the reviews and it really i was like how did everyone gloss over this when you put the effects on um it goes from stereo to mono a hundred percent of the time which like why can i not have a stereo chorus why can i not have a stereo flanger why does this instrument become small and fake sounding just because i yeah i don't understand how everyone anyway that's that's my rant that's my thing you know what's tough about this is like at a certain period of time well yeah but a certain period of time inventing the piano

and being like the mechanics of a hammer hitting a string and vibrating and doing this would probably be considered technology totally agree we can't go down that's where i think that's the point we should elaborate at the end all of the things we look at and i think we're going to have to dive into yeah a lot of the cameras i own are like extremely technically complex but they're all fully mechanical right i think we have to draw a clear line of what is tech and what is not and i have i have like two options right now in my head one is is there an on off switch okay and two is is there any compute at all okay can i go next as a stark contrast mine is okay far less interesting than Ellis's,

but definitely on the quote-unquote dumbest side of probably what we'll see. Let's do it. I'm ready. Let's do it. Pulls out a rock. This is my cast iron pan that I use almost every day. Okay.

Cooking with it is an absolute joy in comparison to regular pans. Nonstick pans are terrible. It is heavy. I am extremely, extremely proud of the seasoning that has been on it. What kind of soap do you use for it? None.

I mean, okay, don't want to start that argument because if you have a well-seasoned cast iron pan you can't use soap on it um that might be wrong that's not wrong how is some uh design because soap chemically do it's clean it's not it's not are you trying to say well i don't use soap on it so okay but essentially all this is is an absolute stamped piece of metal. Cast iron. Cast iron. And through love and commitment.

Wait. Isn't it cast? Oh, cast iron. Yeah, you're right. Not stamped. Correct. Oh, true. Who's got the pan here?

Ellis? I can do it too. Casted iron. But so like if you've never cooked with a cast iron pan the sears you get on them are absolutely amazing the versatility what oh my god the versatility sears okay the versatility you get out of it being able to put it into the oven and not worry about anything it will last forever this is probably seven or eight years old and it was like 20 it's just lodge lodge is not very expensive lodge rules um and all you have to do is upkeep it pretty much which is not as hard as everyone thinks but out of the things in my house that i use the most that i think fall under the dumb category this

will never have wi-fi this will never have an app. No on-off switch. No Bluetooth codec. Like I said, not the most exciting. But on the dumb scale. I like that. I'm also realizing it's still a little dirty. As it's supposed to be. That's the bottom. That's not where the food is.

It's seasoned, yeah. Not to make this about tech, but when I switched to cast iron, and this is going to be so hippy-dippy weird, but it's when I realized that heat is really energy in the same way that electricity is energy. What makes cast iron work so well is it can retain so much more heat. So when you're cooking with stainless, you can get it ripping hot really quick,

but then you put meat on it, and all of a sudden you've added this like thermal load. You're losing so much heat. And so even though you'll get like 10 seconds of sick sear, that thermal load is drawing all that heat out of the stainless. Cast iron, on the other hand, is just like this giant thermal battery. You know what I mean? You can put such a load on it and it's still able to retain all of that energy on the yeah big reason cities are like need to be redesigned right now is because so many cities are designed around like concrete and all the like sidewalks and like walls of buildings

are concrete and so during the summers they're retaining too much heat and because it's getting slightly hotter every year that's making the effective like radiation of walking around a city feel really hot we need to build cities out of stainless steel that's right cast iron or just you know return to the the forest yeah i'll see you there pal yeah okay yeah that's mine cool this is good i like that i like i think those are stark contrast there yeah should i go um i'm so excited i'm excited i don't want for yours and for mariah's for some reason those are stark contrast there. Yeah. Should I go? I'm so excited. I'm excited for yours and for Mariah's for some reason. Those are the ones I'm the most interested in. Far too much hype for mine.

Yeah, go. I can go. Do it. Mine's very heavy. Give me a second. Mine is too. I think all of our stuff is heavy. Let me give a little preamble.

So this is hard for me. Okay. I use a lot of tech in my life for everything that i do i am terminally connected to the internet and just in general use tech for everything and i also didn't want to go like too easy with like even the things that i've designed like i could have said my shoes or my wallet or my backpack like the obvious stuff that's technically not tech but i got something i did get something okay for even on camera you can't see this but it is sitting on the floor under two jackets so we can't see it

it seems heavy oh what the oh jesus the whole table just shook for audio listener what it's a large object underneath the jacket is he about to pull out a sewing machine a large object underneath the jacket. Is he about to pull out a sewing machine? Oh! Marcus, I almost bought mine one of those too. Is this the Bowflex one? This is, yes. So this is a Bowflex.

I just looked up the name and I got a, I'd been thinking about buying this for a long time. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Cause it's quite expensive. That weighs 105 pounds. I own the same thing. You just casually lifted 105. 52, each one's 52 and a half. Each, no, no, each plate is 52. No, no, no, no. The whole thing's 52 and a half. The same thing. You just casually lifted a hundred and five. 52. Each one's 52 and a half.

Each. No, no. Each plate is 52. No, no, no. The whole thing's 52 and a half. The whole thing. Sorry. Explain it. Right, right, right.

Okay, so. Cutting that from the episode. So this is called the Bowflex Select Tech Adjustable. Select Tech? Select Tech. Damn. Damn. Okay, well. well caught right in

but hear me out okay so this is an adjustable dumbbell so as someone who regularly does free weight workouts because they're better than cable machines or any sort of machine in my opinion not having to have a ton of different weights of every single weight from five pounds all the way up

listen to this that is satisfying it's so funny that the mic is the exact same color way all the way up to total coincidence by the way all the way up to 52 and a half pounds in increments of five or uh two and a half at the lower weights really cool uh tell me tech makes this sound. That's no sounds like a like a typewriter or something. And yeah, so you basically you can ratchet into whatever weight you want. And let's say I want five pounds. Now this is five pounds. But these like keys in the middle, I feel like I'm doing it like an ad or something. Now I'll do 10 pounds on each side, you can do uneven sides, but that's silly. Now it's 10 pounds because it's got extra weight on it. And this continues to go all the way

up to 52 and a half. I have the other one at home, which is a hundred pounds, which is in larger increments between weights. I think it's five pounds between every weight. It can go up to a hundred pound dumbbell. Wow. This thing is great. Saves me a lot of time. If I want to very quickly adjust and add a tiny amount of weight between sets i can do that or just yeah i can use them for anything they're great they're kind of bulky but i recommend them and they're like i got them like in peak covid i was gonna say extremely expensive i got them before covid so they were not that expensive covid it was like an nft like the sales of those yeah they sold out and if they were on people were

just reselling them on facebook i tried to get a pair of them and there's no i was these are like liquid gold during covid yeah so uh i i understand i have the word tech in the name okay but yeah i don't think that these are tech i brought them because they have no on button no compute they're just weights it is whole that's like the opposite you're completely right there is zero tech involved which is why it's so funny that the first thing you said was the word tech yeah in the process of it i do have to point out there's a difference between technical and technology yeah right like we kind of like combine them at the same time but like technical school used to mean that you would go to school for like a trade yes i do think that

they are using when they say select tech they are using the term technology but i think that's because the term technology is extremely overused and anything that's even remotely like innovation yeah they would call this technology that's like their weight selecting technology yeah yeah yeah yeah which you know so it happens to be red and black total it really the fact that they haven't reached out to you and made you uh what part of their marketing team yeah i think anything innovative used to be called a technology and now we associate it with computers. Especially us, who covers like tech. Yeah, but... The world, too.

The Greek root, tech, that is the center of both the words technical and technology. I was just going to look this up. It means, it refers to like a craft or a skill or like a specific thing. That's why it's technical. So we screwed up the word.

It's our fault. We command screwed up the word. It's our fault. We commandeered the word. Sort of. Yeah. Okay, I like that one. I like that a lot. Because it's like, I do like that even though there's no computers in it, it's still like, cool. It's well designed. I wanted to shout out something that was well designed and not designed by me.

I will also say during COVID, like before they got super expensive, I was trying to decide between that one and like the cheap knockoff amazon basics one i did that i'm sure they're all the same no no not according to reviews yeah it does not sound really i got the amazon basics one it was it was no it's not good the when there's that much weight applied to like a pin mechanism or not on a pin, but like sort of a key mechanism like that, like they get jammed so easily. And the mechanism of the cheap ones, like they take forever to change the weight settings of. And then also when you have that much weight on the bar, you need it to be like rubberized

to the point where it doesn't like really press into your hands and hurt you. The cheap ones will do that. And also it takes, yeah, it takes forever to change weights. And this was really difficult because I was trying to do like home workout exercises through like, I don't know, like insanity and that stuff like that. And you have to, you have to pick up different sets of dumbbells, different weights of dumbbells. So I was like rapidly trying to change the weights and they were moving really quickly and I just couldn't do it in time. yeah having that paying the extra money for that i

think is worth it okay yeah well yeah there you have it yeah i love it i'm gonna do mine now yeah uh it is predictable but it is not wait then let's guess it's a film it's sitting on the ground yeah and didn't cover it no hey come on let's i brought i brought arguably well i already know how you're trying to explain it right now arguably one of my least technologically advanced cameras in okay which i have a couple that are just really simple this one is also really simple but uses just like just like your Bowflex dumbbells, some innovative machining to make it work well and be interesting. Clever use of words right there. I think that might be one of the best parts of this is watching people slowly realize how they wanted to explain it and then changing their words.

We've talked many times about my obnoxiously long photographs so this is my most recent obnoxiously long camera that way more than the oh that's it's really heavy it's really heavy it doesn't look like it is basically just pure steel what's it called this is called the linhof technorama art 624 tech technorama interesting easy oh wait wait is it techno oh no that's you're right this was made in like i don't know a really long time that thing looks far older than it's really old yeah it looks like a porsche crest okay so this one's like before the before the 50s i'm pretty sure and they were using anyway the the brand is called toy toy yama um which uses it's

like i think it's owned by lindhoff lindhoff is a very old camera company. Anyway, what makes this interesting is it is a 6x24 camera. That's just 1x4. Correct. But we use 6x because there's so many things that use 6 that you just have to be able to compare it to everything else. Like 18x9, got it. Yeah. Like, yeah.

Like, yeah. 21 by 9. 16x9, 18x9. by 9 yeah exactly okay uh because everything's aspect ratios so it's quite literally just a box right very long box there's a film gate in here and then just a lens that's literally it so the lens in in most modern cameras a lot of stuff happens on the camera itself like you're uh you're changing the shutter speed and you're changing the ISO and all this stuff. But on this, everything happens in the lens itself because

this is a large format lens. So you have a shutter in the lens itself. You have shutter speed on the lens itself. And you also have aperture on the lens itself right here i have a question closes the aperture yeah so you trigger shutter with the lens yes how does the shutter speed mechanism communicate with the shutter like how does it know how long to open springs springs yeah tension really yeah interesting it's all just tension which is insane that they are able to get it that like precise and they can do it from one second all the way up to one five hundredth

of a second geez uh there's also bulb mode and all that stuff so like for example oh you hear that i do doesn't that sound amazing hold up to the yeah yeah that's good doesn't the spring lose tension over time though like 70 years old you would think so and often you need to get uh these kind of things cla'd but for some reason large format lenses are good can you explain what sorry cla means uh clean um lube and arson something else but it's basically just like cleaning up the insides of a camera so here's the here's the um the cocking mechanism so you cock it and then and then you have it like one five hundredth of a second and usually you use this okay oh here's the other cool part okay sorry this is long-winded but so the the back

of the camera where you put the film in secretly hides this which is a ground glass whoa system yeah and then the ground glass system goes on here and then you have to use like a dark cloak um but when the lens is all the way open and before you put the film in, you're able to see. And frame through that. And frame through that. You can't really see it from there because you have to be pointed at a brighter light source generally. And it mostly circulates in the middle. Anyway, it's an 8x10 lens with this 6x24 film gate.

So yeah, everything happens in the lens itself. And then for focus, you have this knob, which literally just moves a bellows forward and backward because you're just focusing the light on the film plane. And yeah, so you can hook up a shutter release to here, which allows you to

do it remotely. But once you cock it, you can fire it by just pressing this wow and it's it sounds very nice if you have it on one second you know you cock it and you shoot it and it's like that's the spring whoa isn't that awesome dude some good sounds on this i know it's yeah i saw you brought a camera i tried not to look that hard at first i thought it was the 3d printed one and i was gonna go off about like 3d printing you know that's i specifically did not bring that one because of that i've been like looking at every nook and

cranny of this to try and find something electrical it is there's no more mechanics by proxy of it is wild you said it's like the 30s i think there's just no way it's tech yeah yeah ben franklin hadn't discovered electricity that's good even though like there's a physical level on top like everything is above it's a bubble level though it's like yeah there's a bunch of different bubble levels and then they actually mounted you know i'm on my 3d printed camera you use the smartphone as the as a viewfinder they actually made a viewfinder that you can look through the top here. So this is more like after you've already

loaded the film and you've used the back end to perfectly frame it. Because it's going to be a little off. So okay, this ground glass is only if you want to focus. But with a camera like this, you're mostly shooting landscapes. That's fine. You're mostly shooting landscapes and if you fine. You're mostly shooting landscapes.

And if you want to focus, you can only really do it for like one shot. Because you only get three shots in a roll of film on this anyway. You can only open it for the first one. Or before the first one. You could focus it and then bracket it, which would be doing like different exposures to make sure that you get the right exposure. HDR, you say? No. Well, kind of.

Sure. Manual HDR. But yeah, there's literally nothing wiry or computer-y about this. It's a box. You're super right about that. That's sick. It's a box. I love boxes.

So protocols and boxes. That's what I like. Anyway, that's my thing. How good is the face detect in the autofocus? Are there any filters? Yeah. Yes, you could put a filter on the front. But yeah, I don't know.

I will say also, as someone who has now shot 6x24 and 6x17, 6x24 is too long. It is, I am admitting a little bit of defeat. It is too long. It's just a little bit of defeat. It is too long. It's just obnoxious to show on the internet at all. I was going to say. I was going to go into that, but yeah.

Yeah. I do love my box, though. Even though it's made of steel and it's really heavy. I feel like David is the winner so far. Oh, wow. I do like how even though none of our objects are theoretically technology. Except Ellis's. Right, yeah.

They all are very mechanically interesting. Yeah. It used to be technology. Yeah. You know? Mine's not that interesting. Making it involved technology. Mine's less interesting more

everyday useful the physics of cast iron are interesting it's cool versus a different kind of pan it's a porous metal yeah well we have many more uh of these items to show and tell to get to so without any further ado i think let's jump into those see what everybody else brought all right after the break the all new FanDuel Sportsbook and Casino is bringing you more action than ever want more ways to follow your faves check out our new player prop tracking with real time notifications

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Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. All right, welcome back. So as I mentioned before, we asked everyone at the studio who wanted to, who had something, to bring it in and maybe show us and maybe convince us why we might want that thing. Again, no tech. Just something you use every day, something you enjoy, something you can't get enough of that has no tech involved. Bring in the first person.

Let's see what they brought. It's very funny because Tim can't hear the welcome music, but all of us can. Oh, there it is. Yeah. I also think it's funny that when I hear clapping, I instinctively want to clap. Please clap. That was clap. Please clap. I have to make noise with my hands. Is that why they started hiring all the Apple people to clap?

So that Tim Cook doesn't have to tell people? I have laugh track in TV shows. For people who don't know, who is this? Oh, sorry. Hey, Tim. No one knows who I am. Have you ever been on the podcast before? Also, get closer to the mic.

I've been remotely. Well, welcome. I was welcome my bedroom so tim you so i don't know if anyone's things that we've brought so far i've had anything to do with what we do here but i figured some people might do that so you do graphics you do some design on the channels what have you brought to show us today right so i'm going to post some questions real quick david okay you're someone that likes to go out in nature, right?

You appreciate nature. What if I had something that you could appreciate on a deeper level and feel more of a emotional connection, right? Even more than nature. Yeah. No, just something to feel better,

like a deeper connection to nature and appreciation on another level, right? Bring mushrooms in the office, bro. Andrew, I'll skip you. Okay. okay marquez is also a danger boy you like puzzles right wordle you play word oh right sure yeah yeah yeah things that you know tickle your brain oh right critical thinking that kind of stuff right what if i had something that

would appease that as well i'd be into that yeah. Yeah? I think so. You're also athletic, too, right? A little bit. You can rip a frizz. You got strong forearms. Rip a frizz. Yeah. Rip a frizz. Yeah.

I'm using that. All right. Okay. I love that. What I brought today. Oh. Oh. Yeah.

So, for the listeners, these are a pair of La Sportiva Finale climbing shoes. Climbing shoes. Climbing shoes is what i brought today yeah yeah this is about a hundred dollar product maybe 130 if you don't get them on sale is it carabiner yeah that's right either views like backpacks climbing shoes real they are yeah i used to climb a little they're like the epitome of load low tech will also be like they are the most uncomfortable shoes you were they're so uncomfortable yeah every sport i play has specialty footwear that are all uncomfortable uh most specialty footwear is uncomfortable because they're specialty they're like designed

for a purpose rather than comfort you know climbing shoes are like if you took your ultimate cleats and it needed to form your big toe into the spike that went into the ground yeah imagine that the whole time you're wearing the thing though i mean yeah they're all uncomfortable this is probably the most comfortable like they're pitched as one of the more comfortable like endurance shoes like you could wear these for four or five hours if you're out in the you know the woods or the you know so the technical the technical prowess of like what are they designed around what is the benefit of climbing shoes grip more toe on edge you're trying to get a better edge that's so angles like back in the early days they used to just have like streetwear shoes

like converse whatever and they would just tie them so tight that their feet were you want your toes to curl so you have toe downs you can grip it right whoa but over time they've adapted the shoes to to have a little bit more of that edge and to be a little more comfortable so you have toe downs you can grip it right whoa but over time they've adapted the shoes to to have a little bit more of that edge and to be a little more comfortable so you're not literally you know like buying so they're flexible around the toe area they have a little bit of toe flex but they're meant to be stiff so that your toe doesn't flex too much so more of the work is kind of in the shoe and not so much on your muscles so you do the toe flex and marquez does the bow flex nice okay do you own a bow flex he brought in his bow flex so wait i haven't heard that name since high school tv commercials yeah anyway yeah um cool i mean and climbing is a good one in this because especially outdoor climbing is generally like one of the least technical things possible.

You're climbing on something that is nature. It's like not even built. You have to put your phone away. You have to be social. You have to really think and like, you know, yeah, you got to be in the moment too. It's pretty in the moment. That's true. That's true.

I do like them. And they are just like, you know, know you've made adam shoes and how much of that was based on comfort and style i was gonna say andrew he skipped you but now that you've seen these are these good they're they're good shoes there's like a lot of different types of shoes like he was saying as uncomfortable as those look those are meant for more comfortable like people generally use that for more traditional climbing where they're up on a wall for a really long time where like bouldering shoes start getting a little more of like turn your foot into an eagle talon because you're usually doing things at a little more of an angle. So it benefits if your toes bent down a little more to be able to get things at this level. I didn't bring those in.

i didn't bring those in um i mean like a lot of people and it gets to the point where and this is for like the professionals who are using the smallest holes possible uh like holds to put their feet on they'll their shoes will be so tight that they can't fit their foot inside them they essentially have to put a plastic like grocery bag in them i shouldn't be putting my hand inside tips climbing shoe that's not great but and then they'll they'll put the plastic bag so their foot can slip in and then you pull the plastic bag out so it's like yeah oh my god they're wearing like two street sizes down or like whatever their street size like if you're a size 13 they're wearing like basically size 11 oh that's crazy like yeah so i'm i think i like i'm down one whole size of what my street shoe is dang that. That's why it has twice as many. You pull it.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Interesting. That's my non-tech item for you guys. Yeah, I like it. Even in the shoe tech, it's a niche tech of it. But yeah, for normal shoes,

it is not following any of the standard protocols. I like it. Thank you, Tim. We're going to get you on the wall. I like it. Thank you, Tim. We're going to get you on the wall. I know it. One day. Don't give in, Marques.

Do you know what the tops of the shoes are made of? What is that soft material? Oh, be careful, Tim. Suede. Suede? Yeah, this is literally like suede, polyester laces, and rubber. Rubber. Yes. Well, suede is just laces and rubber rubber yes well suede is suede is just polyester

is a blend they're they're extremely comfortable cool all right thank you very much tim it's been a pleasure we appreciate you i like your shoes this is a wizard of us. I love this. All right, next up, Vindang. I see the item already. He brought one for all of us. Yeah, this is a little bit of a show and tell.

Okay. Oh, wow. So you can inspect these. Oh, wow. These are gloves. Oh, wow. Those look nice. So my item is my lacrosse stick.

But you don't need all the extra stuff. You know, you can play by yourself or with friends. And you don't necessarily need the default ball. But there's two different balls technically if you uh feel them up this one is the traditional one and this is a newly manufactured ball even though it looks a little bit older that's not actually made of the same rubber it doesn't grease up the same as if the original ball. So within a year, because there's a lot of kids playing and the ball gets tossed around a lot through weather,

they traditionally get slick and oily to the point that the rubber gives out and you kind of can't throw the ball consistently. So the newer ones are manufactured differently. Different construction. So this is our second sports item of the day yeah so tim had climbing shoes tim climbs i imagine you're playing a good amount of lacrosse uh little known fact i played one season of lacrosse a very long time ago in high school uh around the high school age yeah uh yeah yeah i think early high school and i realized i didn't like getting trucked all the time yeah so i stopped playing do you get bodied is that what it is you can yes you can get stick checked but you can also get body checked like in hockey you can have someone run right up to you and just absolutely i don't like that i

don't like because i would not do it to other people. I was stick checking a lot. But check this, right? You ever play catch with a parent or an older sibling? For sure. I've been known to. Maybe with your friends. Maybe if you don't have friends, you could play against a wall. I've never thought about that. Because those balls are really bouncy,

right? So you can just rip it out of a wall and then receive it back. Lacrosse has always been interesting first of all this glove is really hardcore actually look at this like well careful about engineering has joints the the civil engineering it's like for such a protective glove the ventilation and the movement in it is like say those words really impressive i'm just making a joke oh yeah we should explain that you're allowed to say whatever you want then this is a native american sport if y'all didn't know really this is like yes wow so that's awesome the reason why

it's called lacrosse it sounds kind of french right that's because french canadians coined that term after they took it from the native americans. Do you know what it was called originally? I don't know the exact name in the language, but it was called the Creators Game. There's a really cool, I think it's a YouTube channel, of a person who still makes the original lacrosse sticks of taking from a tree, slowly benching the top, and weaving the netting out of it. It's really interesting. That's awesome. Vin, we gotta ask. When did you start playing lacrosse i started in middle school but well i started casually in middle school but i got a stick in fifth grade from my friend marshall rhodes shout out fifth grade birthday present oh that's for a sick birthday present. Yeah.

I think this definitely is not tech, and this definitely qualifies as an interesting and potentially very useful and fun. Also sports-related. I have a question. Do you have a lacrosse activity on your Apple Watch? Yes. Mmm.

That's going to hurt. That's going to hurt the notch rankings. your apple watch yes that's gonna hurt that's gonna hurt we're like we're like attempting to find the absolute the holes the holes holes also this glove says vapor which is like vapor wear or just like regular vapor so that's gotta be strong i will say so this one is pure scandium but if you look at the top of that one, I left the head off. You can see a little insert, and around that insert, do you see any layering? I mean, yeah, it's like white and then black, right? That black part, it's carbon fiber.

Oh, also great. Back in my day, when I started, I played competitively in high school for a couple of years, and carbon fiber was not as popular. But now, after some advancements, and non, non, I'm not going to mention the word.

Some innovative structural engineering. No, no, no. They did make general engineering. After some time, they figured it out cool and so nice cool yeah there's been a lot of improvements over the years it's cool to come back and see what's changed where we're at awesome all right thank you very much this yeah this falls under the non-tech category then you did an excellent job thank you very much for coming in appreciate it go ahead and play and good luck at your next game.

Or match. Or whatever it's called. Match? I think match, right? Game? Game. Lacrosse game. Lacrosse match. Yeah, I've seen this on your Instagram story recently. Looks fun. Very nice. Didn't have tech in the name. That's good.

Alright, we're ready for our next Didn't have tech in the name. That's good. That's good. All right, we're ready for our next contestant, question mark. It's Brandon Havard. Brandon. Brandon. Welcome. Thanks. Welcome, welcome. Tell us us and then before you tell us anything you may notice we have buzzers here these are our that's tech buzzers so at any point if any of us get a whiff of technology you might hear a sound yeah no pressure anyway go on concern continue what is your item brandon well i mean

i think a few people would probably not be surprised by this information but i really like writing on paper i really like writing on paper specifically dotted paper because you get some nice clean lines on dotted paper started Dotted? Like, okay. Yeah. Like a dot grid kind of situation. Okay. I like storyboarding because I don't really like to think too much up here. I like to put it on paper. So I have a few notebooks.

This is just from the past year. And these two notebooks are paired with the Ridge pen. Interesting. I will say, I think the benefit of something like dotted paper is... You kind of have built-in measurements. Stop.

I don't like that you're good at everything. He's like, oh, here's like a casual drawing of the CMF phone. I get rather bored sometimes when I'm waiting at a doctor's appointment or something. Well, you're not doom scrolling? You're using your notebooks? I'm usually using my notebooks.

How dare you do something so productive for your mental state? Or go to a coffee shop and draw a storyboard. I don't like it. And it's fun. What's the name of the notebook? You know, that's a great question. I, um, I'll try and find the link, but it's, it's just a notebook. Like it's, it's more so the category.

The fact that it doesn't have a name feels so much more in line with like it being the most basic, simple thing that we're asking for. What kind of drawings do people do with dotted paper? I mean, usually you're looking at more creative drawings. Would you call them technical drawings? To a degree so what i think is interesting and maybe this is what helps with that is like it's like dotted in a grid pattern so it's less obtrusive than full-on just lined paper because you know like art kind of looks bad on line paper but it has more reference points somehow still than line paper so you can go diagonally up and down

in a much more consistent manner so like when you're doing storyboarding you have a very set grid pattern of how you're setting that up also what i like is that they're not like the dots are not really like dark they're very soft so you can you know draw over them and this was i mean they go back quite a bit but yeah this was the was the first page, which was the M2 MacBook Air intro. That was such a good intro, too. Thanks, bro. As the person who's generally controlling the robot for a lot of these ideas, like,

it is so useful to have stuff like this. I remember, like, when we first started doing it, it was just like, a close-up of the left side of this, and then, this is my fault this is not brandon's fault but i see that robot the robot so it has but like brandon being able to say like this is what i want and it looking exactly what it's supposed to look like in frame makes all of our jobs easier because a little faster yeah it's so much faster yeah but yeah that's that's my pick that's awesome caveat to this yeah if you want to enjoy what brandon does you have to be talented right i'm out that's not true i agree with that it's

not true the dot that dots help actually also there's the adams this is definitively not tech and uh definitively useful and we all can vouch very good 10 vouch um okay i expect to hear back from you guys very shortly thank you thank you very much brandon see you later brandon bye everyone's doing really good with this yeah except except us hey what's the name of the notebook? Not tech, obviously. Oh my gosh. To be fair to mine, it's called the Techno Rom. So like, no tech,

you know? Techno. Oh, no. I gotta say. Mine's just dead. I think, up next, at least according to my list, we have someone who's got something pretty interesting. So without further ado, I think it's time to bring on MKBHD editor, Mariah Zank.

No way. Oh, you're just using the box. I don't think it's what you think it is. Okay. Mariah always goes unhinged. She, uh... Oh, it's not. It's probably gonna be something different.

It's much heavier looking. Oh, gosh. There's Bowflex in there. There we go. Hello, sharks. Today, I'm looking for a $1 billion stake for 10% of my company just go to peter luger yeah and i know you love an unboxing experience i do so i will let you open the

apparatus okay i'm so hoping it's not what i think this is fintech and i hope it is it's not fintech related okay never mind bummer okay so there's several things in here. I'm just going to take them each out. What are we looking at? Okay. You have to dramatically open the item. I see. Okay.

So we're looking at a scroll of sorts. Like fabric on two wooden blocks that is being unrolled. It's a little tangled. This is table tennis related. I think I know what this is. What do you think it is? Is it the foot hammock for under your desk? Wait, this is fine.

I think I know what this is. It's a foot hammock. What do you think it is, David? I also thought it was a table tennis net. What do you think it is, Marcus? I think that's a table tennis net. I no longer think it's a table tennis net. What do you think it is, Marcus? I think that's a table tennis net. I no longer think it's a table tennis net.

I'm sticking with it. I like where your heads are at. It's a table tennis net. It could double as it. Well, Andrew unfortunately knows how my brain chemistry works. He gave it away. And it is a foot hammock for under your desk. And it is clearly a white-labeled amazon product from a nondescript company

uh for an unknown price because i did not purchase this but i have become converted really i would say oh so uh so these go it has two clamps and then you loop it over oh yeah probably tie it in it okay it might be hard to sway you because i feel like this is a product potentially for short people and you're all very tall if you could please list your heights for all the audio listeners i'm the shortest one on the podcast i'm seven foot nine 180 inch vertical i'm five ten and a half so six two yeah i think everybody could be converted into using this item potentially um for anyone who needs to fidget if we like to all collectively fidget at our desks you can kind of swing your feet i do like that idea yeah yeah it's more of a swing then than a hammock right

um yeah yeah it's whatever you want it to be okay so your feet rest on it like on your desk all the time wait whenever just not all the time just whenever you want we have to explain something to you you might see marquez holding a buzzer right now oh yeah this is our button that alerts if we're sniffing some tech out inside of it so if the button gets pressed it means we're on the path to breaking the rules i would say this is probably as low tech as you could go does the foot hammock have an app no good answer um there's no app there's no uh subscription service um there's no electronics in fact that might surprise you no on off button um yeah no rgb unfortunately no rgb that is a bummer you buy it on amazon prime

she did not buy it i didn't buy it so i don't know how did you not it was uh it just appeared in my home so you know it's funny these desks that we have and also my desk and some others in the studio are made by x desk i think that's what they're still called and one of the options that you can buy is and i think it's called an artisan bar or something like that but it's like a support bar that's under the desk that you can rest your feet on and i'm always resting my feet on that oh so this would serve the same purpose but for desks that don't have that bar and you get to swing if you have yeah yeah oh my god i'm just realizing this table has one of those and my feet are always that's what i'm saying guys sharps one billion dollars four billion um i do think i could use

this because my desk is up against the wall and if you were to look at that wall that is painted white it just has foot scrape marks up and down it because i'm putting my feet out so often it's using the wall to do it. Yeah. You could probably easily make this at home if you really wanted to. You probably have to cut this off. There's no way to change the foot fabric. So once this thing's dirty, you're kind of hosed.

Do you know what it looks like? The back of like a director's chair. Yeah. That's true. What if I just steal a director's chair? A small table tennis net. Just a really, really small table tennis net just a really really small table yeah yeah anyway no this is good cool i i didn't press my buzzer once and didn't even think i needed to yeah so

i thought you were gonna try and make her describe the desk and then go that route but well yeah but i mean survive the button yeah do you use this at home yes this is an at home apparatus did we describe what this looks like already um it is basically the back of a director's chair with rope with rope mariah what do you what sits on top of your desk that while you're using this what do you mean is it just an empty desk you just said it's your architecture desk like i'm just sitting at an empty desk swinging my feet that's what i'm asking no that's what i do that's what i do on a hammock this is a foot hammock what's on the desk what's on the desk mariah no my kids don't please i need this i'm just wondering sharks i really don't know this

no yeah okay it's a pen and a piece of paper just like Brandon and more electronics thank you so much for joining us you've been wonderful please take your weird foot thing and leave I'm requesting we get all of these for the podcast desk

because we are in here for a long amount of time there will be a foot cam in the next episode thank you thank you yes thank you mariah fun fact this desk did have the bar we just didn't attach oh yeah threw it out also i would like it mariah i really thought your cat was in the box first i would love that oh my god and then it didn't move and i was just like push the desk she put it down very softly and like it looked like it was really heavy and i was like that would have been the best thing ever oh my

god all right so we've also had two sports things so far that's so clearly healthy work-life balance um let's see what the next item slash person yes. Because up next we have special, I don't know his title. Special agent? He makes stuff happen. Special agent John. Makes stuff happen guy, Jono. Welcome. Welcome.

Awesome. All right. All right. Jono, tell us what you've brought for us today so i'm really big into disc golf right and i've been developing my technique a lot and that means farther throws more risky shots and unfortunately enough they go into water sometimes especially on the course they're near me so today i brought you what's called a disc retriever and this one specifically is called the max distance and it has 42 suction cups and i love this thing holy crap yeah so it looks like a bunch of suction cups arranged in a ball at the end of a stick that I assume goes a very, very far distance.

Can we pull this out? Yeah. How far? Just start sending it. I want to see how far this goes. It goes. This one goes to like 29 and a half. That's how thin the-

Oh my goodness. I just want to say, I've played Disc Golf with Jono many times. The course by him he has a lot of water carries oh my gosh okay well this room won't fit it it won't fit it it won't work in that sense i can touch it's so good losing a disc in the water you know they're like 15 to 20 bucks it's not the end of the world but getting it back is nice i think i have like this one costs about 160 dollars oh really yeah this is so funny. Okay. Yeah. I've like honestly retrieved like 40 or so discs.

Really? Yeah. So it's paid for itself. Yeah, paid for itself. Wow. That saved like three of mine. Yeah. And I know you love carbon fiber and it's carbon fiber pieces.

Most of the things today have been carbon fiber. A lot of carbon fiber in here. Most of the things today have been carbon fiber. There's been a lot of carbon fiber in here. So because it's suction cup, if a disc is in the water and generally flat on top, if you have like, the one I have is just like two hooks, which you can kind of drag with, but underwater, if it can't get like over it or into that spot, that suction's really well on the top of it.

And as long as you move slowly, it'll just slowly pull back. So you don't have to push into the water. This is Cadence's dog disc. Oh, okay. You go in. I can't believe you didn't bring an actual disc golf disc. I forgot. I literally forgot. Whoa.

That works really well. Even in the water, it works well? It works even better in the water, I would say. The thing is, when you're going in the water because of light refractions, it does take a little bit of like... I've used this in core strength....fine strength and eggling no it's actually not that bad it's only like in uh under two pounds i believe do you think this would work better if there were rgb leds on the end no because that would be tech you could see better no no it's all right too easy too easy yeah it's funny that because said $160, which sounds expensive for what it is,

but the ratio of that, like, so I play golf, and the ratio is flipped. Like, if you hit a golf ball into a lake, it's pretty much always gone, unless it's near, like, the edge. That's like $3, $4 a ball. Yeah. And so as you play around in golf, you will probably lose a couple of golf balls in the woods, in the water, whatever. And that might add up to a certain amount per round.

But in disc golf, the disc is also like the club. So you reuse it many times. And so if you lose your putter like that, that's like worth a lot more than like a $3 golf ball. So I'm not going to go retrieve my $3 golf ball from the middle of of a lake but i will go retrieve with this gigantic telescoping carbon fiber pole yeah my putter and disc golf was also one of those things is that you as a player fall in love with your discs as you kind of break them in a little bit and those become kind of irreplaceable in some points like the clubs yeah or it takes like a ton of effort to get it back to the like sweet spot. Yeah.

And I actually have two of those. So that's a 29 and a half and I got like a 15 feet one for Jillian. So. Well, you know, we got to this end part here and this part are 3d printed. Yeah. It's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Since it's disc golf and you've got a couple minutes left favorite what is one disc that you would like go to extreme lengths with that or just straight up in the water to get if you needed to actually i've told i i texted you when this happened oh yeah i'm pretty much if i can get out of work early enough, can I go home early? I might actually go swimming for one because it is in a lake, but unfortunately there's a lot of fallen branches around.

You know where it is? Yeah, I know exactly where it is, but because of how all the branches are arranged, it's kind of making it into a little jail that I can't get it out with that. Dang. I might have to do that. It's a disc graph of dino go swimming it's like animals in this lake they're all probably leeches but also audience members still water is disgusting yeah standing still do not have any cuts when you

get in it yeah leeches will get to you so all right i was thinking something disc golf related but i was just thinking of some discs and i haven't played long enough but that is a really good way of doing of saving discs yeah also what a goofy object it's so silly looking yeah it's like it sticks out on my bag like a flagpole and people just go that's a sick retriever man it's one of those things though where when you're playing disc golf people outside of disc golf you're like i hope they're not making fun of me and that in a bag is almost guaranteeing you should paint it gold so that you can call it your golden retriever oh that's that's that's good that's it that's innovative one last fun thing with those is if you have a friend who

has one when they're walking you can kind of throw your disc sideways and see if it'll stick to it when it's sitting on their bag um that's always a fun game yeah that one works incredible dang wow that's good yeah what suction you don't miss yep so that's mine cool awesome cool thank you very much distance is the name of the product and the company? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, Max Distance is the... Wait, what does that say underneath there? Dot com. Max. Max Distance dot com. Where's the buzzer? They have a website.

All right. All right. That is good. Thank you, Jono. Fabulous. Guys, you know what one of my favorite smells is uh it's related incredible transition it's like like golf course or like amusement park water like the super chlorinated like super why do i feel like you're thinking of like mini golf course or golf courses have a different smell

like sewage i've never been to a golf course so oh I've been to a lot of golf courses I mean I think the mini golf course with the little like water thing can smell like a chlorinated interesting I like mini golf yeah anyway real

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All right, Alex. All right. That would be so funny if that's what I pulled out. Alright, Alex. I feel like I've seen your item before, but tell us what you brought today. I brought a Wilson NBA grade, apparently, basketball. Okay. Alright.

I'd say that's third sports item. We're an athletic bunch. Actually, fourth. An attempted athletic bunch. Right, because Jono did the stick. Oh, fourth. The stick.

Yeah, Tim did the shoes. Climbing. Climbing lacrosse. Vin did the lacrosse. Golf basketball. Fourth. Wow. So the basketball itself.

We do one non-tech thing and everyone goes full jock. Would you believe we play sports here my camera is heavy and i lift it so that's so this is so what is it called by the way because i don't actually know it's a wilson wilson nba authentic series so this is actually one that we had in the studio um that you used for the short with the 3d printed basketball which i would never bring in here because that is very much tech correct this one is just a regular old basketball now mine is a little more worn than this but i figured just for the camera make it look pretty i would use the one that we just had hanging out here okay with a 3d printing one that's so cool sure it is but you know it doesn't really fit the assignment or else i would have brought i think the reason we think it's cool is the exact reason why it shouldn't be in the tech detox episode.

Yeah. But it doesn't have a processor. You could also include a hoop or really anything in basketball because it's not tech. And then you just have the entire. But yeah, this sort of illustrates that. NBA, some of the floors now light up, right? That's true. Well, yeah, there are high tech versions of like every every part of basketball only in the all-star game they did that just for

the contests what about that new stadium that um the clippers old microsoft ceo yeah clippers yeah they have a new state it's pretty safe that's crazy wait alex yes what makes an nba authentic basketball different than any basketball i would get get it like a Dick's Sporting Goods. Branding. Wait, are you serious? Yeah, that's pretty much it. I mean, money. I mean, no, this is it or size or really serious.

This one is mostly just the same size and weight and whatever is an NBA basketball. But this one is actually made for indoor outdoor. So it's a little more durable of a material. So but yeah, mostly it's just branding. No, wait, I totally thought there was a different grip composite and like... The way that the

ball is fused together... Fused? Yeah, whatever. I don't know. I'm reaching. There's been a lot of reaching in this episode. Alright, so have I officially been buzzed oh no no no you can see my rant now what is the rant thank you guy well i have one i haven't prepared if you want what's the rant if we decide it's tech yeah if you guys decide it's tech i have a very strong rebuttal so it's tech all right well you have 27 seconds left okay oh my god

all right here everybody look at this image look at wait you Oh my god. Look at this image. Look at this. This is how much the basketball has changed in 130 or so years. Barely at all. Do you think James Naismith had an iPhone? Do you think that he decided to draw

this on an iPad? No. He didn't. He woke up one day and he said, I want to be a Hooper. And I want the world to be hoopers. Who is James Naismith? James Naismith invented basketball. I want a hoop. Who said that? Who said who's James Naismith?

What is wrong with you? Everyone knows basketball was invented by Jonathan Basketball. Alex, I just have a question. David, could you read what this says right there? Oh, I printed it off a computer. Gasketbaloney.jpg basketball is this is alex i just have a question david could you read what this says right there dot jpeg resolution 1280 by 760 pixels it is actually really cool how little it's changed though

the old basketballs look like rugby that looks like sort of football stitching almost basically yeah well i mean that's how you had to do they even bounce so that's that's the question okay back in the day they were stitching it together like this now they're making it with some sort of fusing okay so you know what's funny famously back in the day 2006 if you look at that basketball they tried to change the nba basketball and make it not leather and make it a composite material. The players find woven. Yeah, they made a fine woven basketball. Yes.

Yeah. The players hated it so much that they had to change it midseason. Same. And completely cancel like all of these basketballs that they had. I think they just freaking threw them away. Wow. So, yeah, they had to do that. So just to illustrate how non-tech basketball is the smallest

amount of tech was added to basketball a composite material and the players revolted you know that is sports a lot that is a lot of sports i think golf is i keep coming back to golf because i play it but it's interesting because there's a lot of tech and it kind of went both ways it got really really good really fast all the drivers got bigger all the golf balls got bouncier and every shot went further and spinnier and everybody loved it and then it kept going and now it's kind of at like this can we go back a little bit moment where everything is too good and too forgiving and too easy um interesting this is great i i was gonna make the point that the 3d printed basketball is just further along this line sure i don't think it's ever gonna actually get used you don't think so's ever going to actually get used.

You don't think so? No, that thing would cut your fingers off, dude. If you're trying to reach in for a steal on that. Okay, but if they had stuff around it, you know. I guess, but then what's the point? Isn't the whole point of limbo? It's quieter and bouncier. For people like me.

But when you wrap stuff around it, it's loud again. Yeah, you wrap stuff around it, it gets loud again. Because then the sound doesn't just go through it. That's the whole thing with that ball, is that the reason it's quiet is because the air is going right through it if you wrap it in something then it's having reverbs got it alex i have a story to tell you before you go okay uh i got a basketball recently on the street like it was on the curb so i was getting rid of it and i was playing around with it and you know i'm pretty bad at basketball don't have like the

biggest hands in the world and i was just handling like i was i was james harden with this thing bro through the legs behind the back doing stuff i've never been able to do before and i was like damn this basketball is is sauced bro like i can i am ripping right now and then i came to work the next day and realized it was a child size i was about to say it's a size five basketball just a minuscule basketball that is a kindergartner basketball yeah it was it was really, I'm not talking like Nerf basketball size, but, you know. Slightly bigger than a palm ball. Slightly bigger than a grapefruit.

Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing to realize I didn't. Anyway, Alex, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. You've been wonderful. Thank you. Alex followed the process very well. Number one Joel Embiid fan. Does everyone get their own theme song?

I'm probably going to have to reuse a few, but for the most part, I still have a bunch left we haven't used. That one was a point. He didn't even hear the music and he was doing it. That's a good point. Look, I feel like my...

UC Berkeley. Jamad Jacomagas. Camden 76ers. is doing yeah that's a good point yeah look i feel like i feel like six four center uc berkeley jama jacob camden 76ers no yeah i feel like my my prime what i bring to the table as an employee is if you give me an assignment i will always go above and beyond in the silliest way like coming up with 10 original music cues um but up next we have how how do we introduce this guy oh you don't know who it is no it's either eric or rich right no we got three four people left oh we got eric rich and miles yeah it is. It's Miles. Up next is Miles. Okay. Up next is Miles. He needs no introduction. He's the fastest in the studio, both running and sitting.

He's got curious. What does that mean? Oh. Well, he hasn't raced me before. I could be faster. Miles, welcome. Yeah. We got a theme song for you. It's a good one. And a crowd, welcome. We got a theme song for you.

It's a good one. And a crowd, apparently. What have you brought to show us today? Okay, so we've seen quite a few items already, you know, varying in sizes. You know, I don't have some really big gargantuan item to show, have uh some really big gargantuan item to show but it does have a lot of heart and also may have some long-term detrimental effects on my heart in the future but that's neither here nor there so no lady and gentlemen i introduce to you fair performance nutrition in the prickly hair flavor it's pre-workout? Pre-workout.

Oh, my God. Now. Are we jocks here at this company? Crazy. No, what? This is for the everyone's bringing sports and workout stuff. Now, give me a minute to try to sell this, all right? So, I chose this product not only because it is as far removed from technology as a lot of the other stuff you've seen today.

But since it has entered my life thanks to resident pod god Adam, who is not here. I thought Adam was here. He's not here. He's sick. He probably drank too much of that. Yeah. Get better soon, Adam. Probably because of this. Get better soon, Adam.

It has vastly improved my fitness journey in the past three, four months I've used it. But I'm not asking you to believe me. I'm only asking you to believe the numbers. My muscles. Which I have I mean I have some numbers

to show you today. Six. The Shamu baby. I don't know if you guys want to show you today. Six. Six is a good one. The Shamu baby. All right. So I don't know if you guys want to pass this around. You're familiar with like the Apple Fitness. Yes. The what?

You can swipe two times to see a February and then a March for just like mile times, right? Nothing crazy. Mile times? Yeah. Like you can just look mile times, right? Nothing crazy. Miles times? Yeah. Like you can just look at the first mile time. Okay. So in two months you went from seven minutes to 630? Yes.

Or no, 730 to 630. So you went down one minute. Right. So that is pre-BPN. Wow. That's super impressive already. If you want to go to the slide after that, June, July, August, you see a substantial improvement in the mile time. 522 in July.

Wow. And then 449 in August. Jeez. So you... Wait, let me see. Sorry. Significantly... That heart rate. I didn't look at the heart rate, though. What is the heart rate going up to? Yeah, a little bit. 173

BPM. But you gotta do that to get to a 440 mile. No, yeah, 100%. I mean, what? I don't think I reached any crazy numbers here. No, you know, 170 in a full sprint isn't... I think if I was like 210 or something like that, that'd be a little concerning. Kids, don't do drugs.

Look, you can buy this on Amazon. I think it's, you know, if it was not supposed to be. There is a significant amount of caffeine in it, which is probably the biggest thing. So obviously, which is why I don consume caffeine marquez is making a face making this every day how much it's like 300 milligrams and when if anyone remembers dr

mike coming on the show i think he said you shouldn't consume more than 400 milligrams a day right so when i have this that's this is my only caffeine intake for the day no coffee no celsius red bull anything this is it so try to do it responsibly that is uh over three cups of coffee like espresso shots right not just like yeah i think a general cup of coffee is around 80 milligrams uh i saw 90 on google but um but yeah that's all 90 on so to conclude right um you know my fitness journey is one of the ways i tried to like push myself and self-improve and so bpn bear nutrition performance it means more than just bear nutrition performance it means boldly pursuing new opportunities it

means not only believing in progress, not perfection. Get what I'm saying? Is this a presidential run right now? I just have one question, Miles. Okay. Yeah. At the top, it says,

flight is our pre-workout supplement created to boost your power output, improve focus, and increase energy without the crash or jitters. Yeah. Is that actually true about it? I think so.

I mean mean you've seen me function day to day i'm not dead i yeah yeah i mean this is i no crash i took some this morning around six o'clock you know no crash if you really wanted to pitch it to us well you would have taken it right before you joined us yeah i would have been done like two months ago yeah okay no yeah um that's a good vouch then that's a good vouch i didn't see any i read the entire label i didn't see any of any tech right there were any cpus and the ingredients no no power no on off no snapdragon yeah interesting okay all right thank you very much miles yeah you're the only person that brought

in a controlled substance so so far so far i think i will feel alone probably um so yeah that's that's it wait before you go miles where can people find you in our content because you're in videos now quite a fair amount um yeah i mean i've been on like every channel at this point um but autofocus that's the main one that's where and that's where iofocus, that's the main one. That's where I live. That's my corner of the internet. Studio stuff as well.

If you want to see what Miles is like on 300 milligrams of caffeine with a Ferrari V12, you can see both those things together on youtube.com slash autofocus. All right, now get out of my podcast. Thank you very much. Very nice. Don't forget your daily driver. Oh, sh**. Can't forget. Don't worry, that's fine, Mike. I can't live without that.

Alright, up next, we got... Eric! It's my fault. I'm sorry. Oh, I like this one.. There we go. Oh, this is... Oh, I like this one. This is good music. Oh. Welcome.

This is some like ACDC kind of stuff. We have theme music going. If you... Oh, it's over. You missed it. Yeah. You'll have to find out what it is by watching later. Could you sing it?

It's about how it went. Cool. Should I introduce myself or something? No, yeah. No no just straight to what can you i wait for viewers have never met eric yeah they haven't met eric hi ferric i am eric i am miles's personal trainer i i mean i turned that ship around real good. And then he was like, Eric, if you can turn me, this skinny little sack of bones, into the muscular man I am now,

I think you could also co-produce for our studio channel. And so that is like what I do for like money. But like my soul is in the personal training. For sure. So I have spoons is in the personal training. For sure. For sure. So I have spoons. I'm already terrified. Okay.

Spoons. This isn't going to be one of those like cupping things, right? What is that? Cupping. People like, it's like a weird massage thing. Does that involve spoons? Oh, yeah. It can.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. You guys want to guess what the spoons are for? Eating something. At this point point now we all have spoons it feels like you're gonna make us eat something that'd be awesome oh no oh wait i should have seen this coming a mile away okay this wait this is something you use frequently yeah okay i talked about it every day. Yeah, I've talked about it. Okay, sorry.

It's not even open. Explain it. Explain it. Yeah, I bought a fresh one just for you guys. That's nice of you. Yeah. What is it for those of us that are audio? So for folks, this is Kewpie Mayo.

This is, by many standards, many objective measures as well as subjective measures, the best mayonnaise that money can buy. In a blind taste testing in the Chicago Tribune, Kewpie Mayo was rated as the best mayonnaise that money can buy in a blind taste testing in the chicago tribune cupi mayo was rated as the best most delicious mayonnaise by a large wide margin in their most recent mayonnaise low bar low bar um so okay so why do you say it's a low bar well most delicious mayonnaise winner kind of feels like, I don't know. There are a lot of mayonnaisees out there. What are you trying to say, Parker?

Uh, maybe I don't appreciate mayonnaise to the level that these people do. Wait, are we going to eat this straight? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, we're going to do mayonnaise straight. Oh my gosh. On the podcast. What, do you want like a chip?

Like. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. I will say, uh, Japanese mayo and Japanese barbecue sauce are both elite. This is Japanese mayo? Yes. Yes, this is Japanese mayo just from a build quality perspective. Pass this around.

That's true. Did you say build quality? Yeah. Like bottle build quality? That's not technology. It's a squeeze bottle, so it's flexible. How is this mayo different from regular mayo okay so a little bit of history this company was originally founded in 1919 for

its first five years it was a salmon packing company in japan they did like canned salmon yeah and then the founder who had like lived he had interned in the u.s was like man the u.s has like mayo on lock and so he went and he created his own take on japanese mayo where they only use the egg yolk so it has this thick nice like custardy kind of texture and then it's mixed with rice rice water vinegar or rice water to give it this kind of like umami kind of like almost asian flavor it's not necessarily overpowering but it just gives it a little bit more of like this sweetness. It's fun. It's just capital F.

It's fun. It is so good. Eat it, David. I will say. All right. I'm going to try some as a non-mayo enjoyer. At first I was like, I'm going to do this for the pod.

Then I held it and my stomach got a little queasy. I'm still going to do it. No promises. Because it's straight mayo and I already just don't like mayo. I will say, another cool thing about this is that if you open it regularly, you squirt it out in like a tube shape. But if you just open the top, it is star decoration shape. Yeah.

Oh. So you can do it on a cake? Why would you need that? Well, for decoration. For fun. You can decorate with it.. Oh wait, there is that Swedish fish cake, isn't there? Swedish fish cake.

They did it on Bake Off one time. Are you a mayo fan? I have to take that thing off. No, I'll take yours for you. No, we all gotta taste it. I'm not forcing my boss to eat something he doesn't like. I'm not doing star. I'm not forcing my boss to eat something he doesn't like. I'm not doing star.

I'm not gonna, yeah. I'm not gonna do that much. Just do a dab. I'll put a little bit on this spoon and do something. I'll try it.

Do you do that hot once? Twice. I believe in the mayo world it's referred to as a dollop. A dollop.

I thought that was the sour cream. It is a sour cream. They're the same thing. There you go. See, just a dollop. Or a dab.

Or whatever that is. That's less than a gram i don't know the last dab i'd rather do the last how about we all eat it together yeah you guys are i almost put it on the button not gonna lie that smells pretty good honestly that smells like salt and vinegar chips like the things you don't like about mayo is it's because it's like all mass-produced factory stuff you know it's not made with love right assuming that's mass produced you know in 100% but it's like

but it's like but it's got love in it but there's certain ingredients of a sandwiches for example that are like well it's a condiment basically we're eating a condiment I don't know how to feel about this they're never like standalone if this was on a chip I would feel better alright it's on a spoon I feel like such a wuss being like all right it's on a spoon i feel like

such a wuss being like i don't want to eat mayo i feel like one of the most common condiments ever all right yeah three two cheers one it's definitely much better than regular mayonnaise eric wins from what i remember of mayo in the past it it is better than mayo. I still did not like eating it alone. I didn't like eating it alone. I also think for the sub-enjoyers, oil and vinegar is better than mayo in every way possible. Why do you say that you can't have oil, vinegar, and a little bit of Kewpie mayo?

You don't even need meat the fact that we all just ate warm mayo and no one complained i think speaks volumes to how good that is you didn't get to me yet yeah no i look next time i buy mayo i'm never going to i will buy qp mayonnaise because this is it seems great great engineering on the package qp mayonnaise because this is it seems great great engineering on the package um just one quick question uh would you say the packaging of it is separate in like an interesting way from other mayo packaging in any way not when you're holding the button like that just curious just curious yeah i before you hit that button i need to explain the logic of how this is techno this is plastic this is just cool plastic. Uh-huh.

So it's not different than any other Mayo packaging, you would say? You're not answering my question. I'm just curious. You're not answering my question. I'm not. I'm not. Okay, so it's the same. Alright. Because I just see it says easy squeeze tube there and I just feel like that might be like a distinguishing feature of this particular brand.

Well, that's innovative, but innovative isn't always technology, right? Wasn't that the decision we't that the decision yeah this is well built but if okay if you're gonna buzz this because it's well built no no everyone else needs to be buzzed that's totally fair we have a time to buzz everyone by the way that's kind of a goal i am going to win on technicalities fair okay tech tech tech, on what? Tech, technology, technology. Technology, what? No, the two-way cap is innovative. This squeezy thing is interesting. The star shape.

The star shape. Yeah, it's all packaged. It's Japanese engineering on an American classic. This is like Sony, but not technology. Why is there a baby? Because it's freaking adorable. No, because the Kewpie brand is based on a line of dolls from the 30s and 40s. That's weird.

Called Kewpie dolls. That's interesting. That's like the logo for the company, too. Oh, careful with that. Careful. Oh. All right. It's time for you to get out.

All right. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Eric. At first, that sounds like the Friends song. It's ACDC, bro the friends song am I right I'm Becky Blair alright next up

is another new face for podcast listeners it's Rich welcome Rich some late night stuff oh yeah join us welcome there's a theme song oh baby okay some late night stuff. Oh, yeah. Join us. Yeah. Welcome. There's a theme song.

Oh, baby. Okay. Oh, theme song's over. But yes, welcome to the pod, Rich. Hi. Welcome. Okay.

Well, I see you have a backpack. Is the item the backpack or is it inside the backpack? It's inside the backpack. Show us what you brought, Rich. Well, my friends, I would like to preface, this is something we all love. Are you sure? Yeah. We'll see about that. If you do not love this, you brought, Rich. Well, my friends, I would like to preface, this is something we all love.

Are you sure? Yeah, absolutely. We'll see about that. If you do not love this, you have bad taste. Wow. No pressure. Rich is from LA. If he pulls out In-N-Out right now.

I have bad taste. Can Eric just eat a spoonful of mayonnaise? I would eat cold In-N-Out from a six-hour flight across country before I eat another spoon of mayonnaise. I'm glad you said that. No way. No way. Okay. I did not bring In-N-Out. Next best okay next best thing it's an in and out t-shirt okay

with the menu oh that's only a 10 that's technology right there can i put this on yes okay absolutely but it is there's only a tenth of the menu that's true is that that i mean there's a secret the menu is pretty small is secret like 90 and then there's only a tenth of the menu that's true is that i mean there's a secret the menu is pretty small is secret menu is like 90 and then there's the rest of the in and out menu which is this stuff that you learn about after you go for the first time that is also like 10 times as much stuff yeah it always goes you're not from california to go to in and out you talk to someone california you're like it wasn't that good and then the person california goes bro it's because you don't know about the thing and this is i'm from california yeah ellis is this person you don't know about the thing that no one told you about that's not sitting down anywhere like you're so

stupid you ordered off the menu locals only bro stay off my waves so i would like to know everyone's in and out order okay double double animal style animal fries with chopped chilies on the burger. So I recently switched to one double double animal style with chopped chilies on the burger, a single cheeseburger with grilled onions, and then animal style fries. Good lord. I think mine's the same as Elle's, but no tomato.

Because I hate tomatoes. I get a cheeseburger with grilled onions. So do you guys know you can get extra toppings? Yeah. But you know there's like no limit? Yeah, no limit. So you can go like extra, extra, extra.

Didn't they impose like a 10 patty limit? No, something? No, I think you're right. In high school when I was in band, we would stop at In-N-Out on the way to band competitions. That's fire. And high school kids want to impress each other in the dumbest ways possible. And at In-N-Out on the way to band competitions and high school kids want to impress each other in the dumbest ways possible. At In-N-Out, at least at the time, it was $1

per patty that you wanted to add extra. So kids would do 20 by 20s. Are you saying that's a 20 patty burger? Yes. With 20 slices of cheese. And it would just get obnoxious and I think they might have imposed a limit,

but I'm not sure. I mean, if you're doing a 20 by 20, that's kind of insane, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, wait, what's your, what's your order rich? Yeah. Double,

double. It depends on the mood, right? Okay. So double, double, extra, extra grilled onions,

extra raw onions. Oh, I do love raw onions. And then animal style fries fries two packets of spread yeah you get the spread oh give them as packets yeah and you can just add them on after oh very nice that is a promo what mood was that for uh that's my regular order usually I will swap out for protein stuff I'm trying to eat a little healthier okay what if you're angry four by four four by four after a good workout yeah i i have gifts for everyone oh yes what are you trying to win us over or something absolutely okay rich wins yeah i brought stickers for everyone from

in and out oh if there's any that you like and that is not here i will bring it for you next time wow wow i recently became so i have a water bottle covered in stickers and i recently ran out of room on the water bottle for stickers okay and i was in australia and i got a sticker and for the first time i just overlapped a sticker i just put it right on top of two other stickers and that has just opened the door for a ton of new sticker placements on my water bottle so this is this one right here is going on my water bottle for sure classic yeah this is fire i'm bringing more stickers next time i go back to california yeah i didn't know you could get these are they free in and out company store baldwin park california oh we passed through there once when

i was on the way to a band competition so to be clear the item you're presenting is the t-shirt yeah but it's more of the idea it's the vibe it's the spirit but the spirit of in and out the spirit yeah is the food the experience the stickers the in and out vibes the secret menu what do you think allowed them to be so quick have no delay not freeze their nope no we're not i'm defending rich california we're not we're not california yeah but you didn't know about the spread packets i'm just kidding okay rich yes this is fantastic yeah thank you very much the bribe will influence my decision oh i would like to add i would like to buy you on and out next time we're in california oh that's

too nice you don't need to do that this is heavily influencing everyone should know that if you noticed in the past few months that the studio channel looks really good is shot with an artistic touch oh thank you that's rich me and eric you guys you guys are doing an awesome job so we're having a good time it's a lot very nice yeah cool all right thank you very much for having me thanks for coming on thank you rich i'm actually one of these I might steal this one. Without further ado, I would like to welcome studio production coordinator, new studio

producer, amazing soul, Harper. Oh my god. It's not a dog bed? It's not a dog bed. Is it a dog bed? Is it a bean bag? It's those huge dog. Oh. Is it a dog bed? Wait, how are they going to get that in here?

Is it a bean bag? It's those huge bean bag chairs. Huge bean bag chair. Okay. I will need to test this to confirm. This scene in the corner of this frame is incredible what's going on. I was going to say like, why do we need that camera to record but now I'm like no actually that's the perfect

camera right now we're doing so well I can't tell if they're halfway through oh my goodness it's expanding you might have to pick it up and lift it over I think they practiced this morning when was this in this is half of the office in size.

How did you get this suit? I saw a moment when I was at my desk, Harper was like, John O'Miles, can I borrow you? And I was like, oh, no. Hold on. Just watch that camera right there. Okay, but you have to sit in it while you're on the podcast.

Oh, yeah. Works really well. Right? Harper Markowski, everybody! Smoothest entrance so far. This frame is great because it really, like, it just becomes... Can we push your mic yet forward, too? You mean I look like I'm incredibly comfortable and you guys are in, like, boring chairs?

Well, this frame has a lot of headroom, I'll say. Okay, Harper, what did you bring to show us today? What is this? Sorry about that. So, I brought a lovesack, which is basically like a giant bean bag, but instead of beans, it's like cut up memory foam. Yeah. Is it made by the Bean 52s? Cut up memory foam. Yeah. Is it made by the Bean 52s? Cut up memory foam.

Memory foam. Interesting. Memory. I think that's what it is. It's a multi-layer. I'll be honest. I've never cut it open and looked inside, but we bought this instead of a couch for our gaming area,

and it's the best purchase we've made. I'm more jealous they have a gaming area. I mean, by that I mean you know where we put like gaming area where we like put our xbox but like yeah can you imagine direct xbox also a playstation um but like yeah no it kind of it can transform into anything it feels like you're sleeping on a cloud and most of i mean anything it can transform into a dinosaur um but like more importantly uh if it's not in the context of this room um you can like run and dive into it and it's oh yeah i mean i would it looks ultra i kind of want to try that so so it's kind of hard even for video listeners to appreciate the size of this uh chair it's really big i would say

that i can't tell how big of a car i would need to bring it in yeah i'm so intrigued by how you got this how did you get it here how'd you get this in your first of all i'm just gonna blame ellis for me actually doing this i said this is a joke and he was like but you should do that um it took uh we have a shop vac so we put it into a vacuum sealed bag, shop vac'd it, then transported it, and then put the cover on. Holy crap. Oh my goodness. That's impressive. I appreciate the dedication.

Wait, that is a shop vac. It was like a vacuum sealer. I also brought the shop vac with me in my car so I can also bring this home. Right, right. That's a good point. my car so i can also bring this home right right that's a good point see i would have maybe had the foresight to you know put it in that and i never would have brought it here to get it back home yeah my husband was like what are the odds that you actually bring this home tonight and i was like hi i think or maybe it becomes a part of the office or i get to convince you guys that we need

this in the office i would like to dive into it it may be stuck in this room um sure i would like to at least sit yeah in this segment yeah if i'm being honest i'll let you in order to okay i can we sit in together i would like to also it looks like there's room it is it is made to be at least for two adults okay oh my god i will mention that i also have one of these. No, no, it's okay. Just one of these. And it is very comfortable. You have one of these?

I do have one of these. You do? Wait, really? Yes. How have we never discussed that we both have love sacks? So mine's not nearly as big. But what I noticed about it is if you sit in it in the same way over and over again, the memory foam kind of like piles into the corners of it

and it becomes like the shape of the person who sits there all the time. So when I sit down, it's like, it doesn't move. It just like feels like a chair. But if I ever want to like restructure it, I have to like shake it out and like move it around. Yeah, like roll it over. And then it's like whatever you want.

Yeah, it like re, it re makes itself into a giant pillowy like cloud. Yeah. Do you have a dog? I do not have a dog no this smells really good we did just wash this because we just moved um but yeah this is the love sack when we get it out into like the office area you guys can take a running jump at it and enjoy that i will do that i'll be honest um my two-year-old nephew also loves doing that

it's i think i think that may be a universal uh human experience maybe even dogs too i feel like anyone would enjoy running and jumping into this right it's i mean it's like if you ever want to jump into a pillow or jump into a cloud like this is what i assume is the closest experience to that i think the next waveform studio will just be a bunch of those with microphones hanging from the ceiling just all hanging. You said earlier it could turn into anything. I did mean it. Let me add an addendum to that. I more so meant you could shape it around yourself in any way

so that if you wanted to take a nap in it, great. If you wanted to sit in it more like a chair, you can. If you wanted to sit in it in a group. Sort of like a modular type of... Sounds innovative. I would say innovative. I don't know about that i think more so just like it's like clay is clay innovative clay is one of the most ancient materials that's a great that's a great deflection yeah okay it's like clay yeah moldable moldable exactly

i don't think innovative i think multiple multiple okay funny because lovesack does make a couch with a speaker now i'm pretty sure like my husband keeps on trying to convince me to buy that and now i'm putting the kabocha is a brand yeah yeah like kleenex yeah lovesack is like a yeah it has like the subwoofer in one of the legs of the sofa or whatever yeah they got popular with this but now they make couches that are fairly popular and super module and have speakers in them i found out also today that cupi is a brand i thought it was just the style of mayo oh i heard you guys ate mayo yeah it wasn't the best experience yeah that one's not getting my

vote but i did do it speaking of which guys i think it is time you guys don't want to just leave this in here so you can enjoy it while i leave i mean you know we might need some extra testing until we're yeah i'm not harper as someone who's now gotten that in and out of here twice today um we're gonna leave it in here great i love how i started the segment out of breath because of that too okay thank you very much thank you harper be careful thanks harper thank you bye all right friends time to be mean time marquez is immediately going into the go on you don't have to wait for me oh i thought you said come on like you wanted us to join you come on i'm just the water's warm this is the, so I think to wrap this episode up, the four of us should vote on or should we collaborate on who we think is the collective winner? Yeah, or should we all four write it down on a whiteboard? And if so, what is what is like, what are we voting on? I think the vote should be the ratio of like the most impressive

of like, I might want to use that thing slash it gets points deducted for every step closer to being technological that it is. Yeah. I think that's the easiest way. I guess like I see your point is you brought in something extremely niche. So did Tim. Yeah. Those are very niche products. Even like Jono, you know. Jono's is cool, but I don't play Frisbee. Yeah, that's true. But I don't think that it should be based around whether we would use it. I think it should be how useful is it,

live in the moment, even though it has no technology. Live in the headspace of who might use it. I would like to give my vote for best best bring i'm not voting for the piano well i think i think i'm gonna have to go with brandon you know honorable mention to eric that was the highlight of my morning so far uh quick little um but no i disabled your button we're done with that it's it's ellis's turn baby um in fact i do this to you wow um but our trip uh welcome to my kingdom um yeah i like brandon i i really liked uh how can i get a refresher notebook brand was the dot no i was like yeah the whole 10 oh okay we're all we had

a bunch let me pull out my list of my notes here yeah i would like a i would like a two word uh name for each of them i remember all right miles had pre-words ready yeah tim foot thing yep then lacrosse stick brandon dot book definitely uh mariah foot thing. For sure. Jono, stick stick. Sticky, sticky. Sticky, sticky sticks. Long sticks. Orange ball. I think basketball is one word.

Miles, not drugs. Go juice. Go juice. Eric, Kewpie Mayo. Rich, best burger. Harper, lovesack. Wow. Okay, I would say i if rich literally pulled out a double double especially since two days ago we told people about this and we're in new jersey he'd be instant winner yeah but i think the t-shirt aspect of it while the bribes helped yeah the

spirit was i i did like the spirit of like the thing that makes me happy that's not tech is in and out i really get that in and out it would have been an instant win the spirit of in and out is still strong enough to almost be at the top of my list but i don't think i can give that the win my vote is to jono's stick stick sticky stick because it is something that he uses very frequently that is not something that everyone has. So it's useful and it's not technology and he uses it a lot. Yeah, I would say he did have the most concretely useful techless thing with the exception of maybe Andrew's lock and hand. Well, yeah, I don't think...

I will say I do think David's camera not only was like the most interesting thing, even as someone who doesn't use cameras but i was expecting to buzz it a bunch of times and that never got to that point so i was impressed by that aspect of it whether that means it's the winner or not i think it was really cool and i was so ready to buzz the hell out of you but you picked the perfect camera to do it did the hierarchy in my head i'm considering is i'm trying to guess how often each person uses the thing that they presented and i think the top of the list aside from the weights is possibly miles and possibly andrew's pan and possibly harper's uh love sack yeah and they use it

yeah it's kind of hard not to vote for the love sack it was super comfortable yeah so that's that's where my head is at and obviously not being tech i think those you know don't you use those weights a lot my most likely to buy would be the weights or the love sack i think i am probably going to eventually buy those weights it sounds like rich and harper are the two that we all mentioned as like i don't know you don't know i think we should decide on jono is my my personal winner i think jono i could i would feel comfortable giving it to jono it's it's useful it's definitively not tech although those 3d printed bits because here's my thing here's my thing right fiber as much as you know i would love to win on whatever yeah my camera is the thing that i do right jono the thing

that he does is the frisbee but this is an accessory that he uses a lot and isn't even technological i think that there is something to that where uses a lot and isn't even technological. I think that there is something to that where it's like it's an optional accessory that is very interesting and cool. And it's not the main thing. Because, you know, Vin brought in the lacrosse stick. That's the thing. Tim brought in the climbing shoes. It's not really.

It's kind of. No, I see what you mean. It's like you're saying a lot of people brought in sports things but they basically just brought in the sport yeah you know what jono brought in an accessory and generally accessories to sports is where we start getting into the tech part and he brought in a non-tech version right i like that explanation i'm going with brandon else picks brandon's dotted notebooks i pick jo Jono's long stick sticky stick long sticky stick

with carbon fiber I'm gonna go the beanbag Harper I think I would buy that you think I'd pick the disc golf thing you're gonna pick my camera I'm sorry

I'm also picking the beanbag killer alright two for the beanbag dang killer

there it is well thank you all for sticking around for this bonus episode of the techless waveform podcast it's been an absolute pleasure to introduce all of our friends to you guys it is i want to throw one special shout out here is ellis put in an absurd amount of work in an extremely short amount of time to get this done for your for everyone here um poor planning on our part super busy month we decided we thought of this on monday pretty much uh i pitched it else was like this is awesome and did a ton of work extra camera angles and everything to get this done and adam got sick so he really had to do all of the buttons but before adam got sick he also put in a lot of work for this so i just and shout out to everyone for bringing in their items.

No one forgot. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks for voting in the comments below. We'll definitely for sure tally them up with AI and figure out who won. Other than that, we'll catch you guys in the next regularly scheduled programming. See ya. Bye. Peace.

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