Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Rolling Phones, Twitter Stories, & the Coronavirus Cancels Events Worldwide

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

This week we ask you, our audience, to offer input and follow our journey as we set up the new Podcasting studio. Next, we take a look at Twitter's new stories, a.k.a. "Fleets", TCL's introduction of several folding & rolling phone concepts, and how the Coronavirus has already caused cancellations of numerous tech events in 2020. Lastly, we wrap it all up with another Q & A from Twitter. Links: https://twitter.com/wvfrm https://twitter.com/mkbhd https://twitter.com/andymanganelli https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ shop.mkbhd.com MKBHD Mac Pro: https://bit.ly/2wsORBL MKBHD Mi Mix Alpha: https://bit.ly/2ToXExI The Verge Mac Pro: https://bit.ly/2PNKQ1K TCL Rolling Phones: https://bit.ly/2IrcMUI Gus Johnson: https://bit.ly/39rfNR7 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're your hosts. I'm Marques Brownlee. And I'm Andrew Manganielli. And that's our intro still. Yeah. That's it. We were talking about this the other day. I feel like, I guess I mostly think of intros as like Austin, as like, as like hey guys or phil defranco's like

that was not nearly enough hey guys to be an austin intro hey guys there it is okay um yeah i don't think no we think our intro is kind of boring well i have the mkbhd video intro which is pretty clean right now you recognize the hey what's up guys mkbhd here yeah but for the podcast maybe we should come up with a different intro. Maybe we should have people on Twitter just give us ideas for an intro for the Waveform podcast. Yeah, help us out. We need something a little more unique.

If it can roll into something about Waveform or about tech, that would be awesome. But we just want a cooler intro. We like the music already, by the way. Cameron Barlow sent us that after like episode one and we found it and fell in love with it but let's get a a new intro what's up guys welcome to waveform let's form the wave let's let's let's yeah no please help us you can see our brainstorming has been going really poorly so far so we'll figure it out thanks if twitter wvfrm

let us know what it should be all right uh i guess we'll go right back into recap we always go over the past couple videos since the last episode and we have our big three since the last waveform which was s20 ultra mac pro and xiaomi mi mix alpha yeah i think last episode we talked like about samsung-stop. So let's give everyone a break. Yeah. I mean, if you want to watch that, it's the 18 minute long full review video of the highest end S20 Ultra. We're still gonna, I just started using the regular size S20 today as you start listening

to this. But the S20 Ultra being the flagship, the highest end phone that people expect the most out of. I think generally people were feeling like, and I don't blame them. You want like a perfect phone for $1,400 starting price. And obviously there is no perfect phone. So every single little thing that's a little bit wrong with it or not quite

the best, you tend to feel like, Oh, that's such a letdown. You know, it's not the best camera in any phone. It's not the absolute longest battery, but it's got a lot of things going for it. So I think people who watch the review will get a pretty good understanding of all the ups and downs. Yeah, for sure.

So that's the S20 Ultra. We also had the Mac Pro review finally. And the Mac Pro is, it's a tough thing to review. Also, the Verge also just came out with their Mac Pro review this week. Did you watch it? Yeah, they kind of came out from a different angle, but it's the same. I liked the angle they said they were going to go for. Yeah, because the problem you have with the Mac Pro is there's a bunch of different specs. We've talked about this with the iMac Pro and with the MacBook Pro, but there's a bunch of different specs and with the Mac Pro with dramatically different prices. So it's almost impossible to just review the Mac Pro when someone

might get the base Mac Pro. Someone might get the 16 core with 92 gigs of RAM. Someone might get the $40,000 28 core Mac Pro. How do you review all of these things? My original idea, which we didn't end up getting to do, was going to be to like review it from the perspective of like five different ideal people to buy a Mac Pro Like the youtuber the Final Cut editor the Redditor the Redditor the professional internet commenter, you know a bunch of different perspectives and to sort of get expertise from other people who do have different workflows for me because I'm not a Yeah, after effects editor pro photographer or developer or any of that So we'll be cool to get those different people. But that's what The Verge did.

So we can link their review as well down below. But our Mac Pro review, it was just coming from my perspective, which is I'm a Final Cut editor. I'm not the perfect candidate for like an afterburner card yet, but it might be upgraded to take advantage of that later. I have a very CPU and GPU intensive workflow when I'm in the workflow. So we went over all that. And it's future-proofed. Like it might be overkill,

but you're ready for this. It's modular. You're ready to have this for a very long time. Yeah, I'm hoping to. I mentioned at the end, I want to have this for a decade. And that sounds insane to have one piece of tech for a decade. Sounds bad for the channel too,

because it's less content to make. That's true. But like if any one piece of tech for a decade sounds bad for the channel too because it's less content to make that's true but like if any one piece of tech is equipped or able to be modular enough to last a decade it's this desktop computer so i'm hoping that actually that actually happens hopefully yeah and then there was one other thing we saw a lot of comments on which i think was a fun little behind the scenes snippet here but um there's one shot in the review if you watched it where marquez is raising his hands up and the oh the case seems to float up with it and there's lots of speculations as to how we did it are we revealing that i think we should reveal it that's what the podcast is for right weird tippets little snippets we do from behind the scenes kind of stuff if i wasn't easy to think of yeah if i

hadn't been involved in making it and i just watched it i think i would have just thought we'd put the case on the mac pro and reverse the shot yeah and we tried that right it just didn't look like as if you didn't put it down perfectly like level like once i'd started and then it didn't really slide very well and it never hit the bottom like evenly and was uneven in terms of speed. It would like start falling really fast and then really, really slowly at the bottom. So we couldn't, and we were like adding

in camera movement too. So we couldn't do some weird green stream. I think a lot of people thought fishing string, but like it takes some force. Yeah, I don't think you could do fishing string clear, like a test line enough that's like, would be able to pull that without seeing it. Have we ever used fishing wire for a shot?

Maybe one shot ever? I actually don't know if we have. Because I bought fishing wire. Yeah, I remember we bought it. And I have a bunch of it, and I think we've tried using it before and then figured out like we could tape something or use some other adhesive somewhere,

double-sided tape. It's something we thought we could use, but actually I can see it on the cart right now. Yeah, we have some. And it looks brand new. So what we finally wound up doing is we grabbed a suction cup car mount. So we have this two suction cups linked together into an arm that you could probably put something bigger than a GoPro on.

I would say maybe an RX100 or, at best maybe like an A7. If you're feeling, if you're feeling very bold. Um, but we basically suction cupped it to the back. I kneeled down behind the table and just kind of pushed it up using the suction cup. So that way we didn't damage it at all. Um, that was actually the one we have to send back. So we couldn't do anything that would actually like cause any deformities to it. So two suction cups I pushed. If you look really closely, you can actually see my shadow kind of like. Were you pushing up or pulling down? Pushing up.

Really? Yeah, it's the right. I thought we used the shot we used. I'm not sure which one it was, but I thought it was a reversed shot where you assisted the downward motion of the Mac Pro with the suction cup. I'd have to go back and look into it. Because the way the camera moves

is VIN going from down to up, and I feel like coming up to down would be a harder, harder like fluid movement to get it to feel like going. I'm not sure. Now I don't know. We don't even know. So yeah, I think we tried both, but I think pushing up worked the best

because I remember my shoulder being like, oh man, this starts to hurt after. It's not light. Yeah, it's a heavy shell of the Mac Pro, but that's how we got the shot, is that we made a plunger out of a video tool. Yeah, all this like camera magic you guys think we're doing is usually actually

pretty simple in the background. It just is hard to think of the idea but we have effects yeah practical always works the best all right what else do we do me mix alpha that was a it's just a wild phone i'm really glad we live in an age where those weird concept phones in like 2005 where we're like what if the future of phones was this insane thing from the movies I'm glad we're actually kind of trying it that's what's crazy to me is like we're holding them in our hands we see all these crazy

renders from like on twitter of like the new iPhone and stuff and you know they're like rendered and stuff like that so we're getting to this point where we're filming stuff like this and you're holding it you're like this looks fake all of this looks fake I can't believe the audience thinks this is real but i can't believe it's real because i'm holding in my hand right now yeah i remember when we were shooting with

it because we we we got this memix alpha and if you've seen the memix videos before this is always where xiaomi pushes their design yeah the limits i remember the first memix video which uh i think there's maybe six million views on that video too. It's just people getting really excited about bezel-less design. So this is where they do that. So the Mi Mix Alpha is this wraparound screen all the way to the back. And I remember as we were shooting this video, I just kept looking at the footage. This doesn't really look real. It almost looks like I'm clickbaiting my own eyes. You know what I mean mean it doesn't look right um but the more we shot with it the more I like my brain got used to this being like a real a real phone yeah actually I went home that night and Claire asked me what like what we did at work

and I was like I don't I don't know how to like explain this phone fully so I just said she didn't know she's never heard the term like screen to body ratio. So I explained that to her and I was like, all right, your phone is, she has a one plus five. So her screen to body ratio is probably like 70%. 75. Yeah. So I was like, yours is like 75%. My pixel is like 80%.

What if I told you we shot a phone that was 180%? She's like, does like the screen fold on top of itself and Pretty pretty close somewhat. Yeah like that to be honest. It wasn't the most Practical idea like not at all right off the top It looks amazing and a lot of times when something looks amazing like that You sort of forget about the practicality of it and the practicality trade-off is you are always touching screen when you're holding it and that's a really big challenge for engineering for software uh and so yeah as we were using it you know they gave us the phone they were like you know it's a functional prototype don't judge it too hard this isn't

a final product this isn't something we're shipping uh you know this would take a lot of software updates to get right but even as i was using it i was like this is never even if that phone was perfect yeah there's like so many weird things you would have to change of just using a phone that was all screen all the time yeah it yeah linus could literally never use it it would be broken in like a day oh you can't drop that thing yeah you can't drop it yeah uh best thumbnail thumbnail of the year, though, in my opinion. Yeah, well, that's because literally the coolest thing about that phone is what it looks like when it's charging. Charging animation.

It's so good. So, yeah, if your main goal for buying a phone is when you plug it in and it's charging and you want it to look as cool as possible, the Mi Mix Alpha is for you. If they ever sell a phone like that and that's your goal, there you have it. I don't know how much it would cost either, but that was a fun video to make. I mean, those were the three videos.

I was super into the thumbnail and just excited to see how people would react to it. And sure enough, people really got curious about the idea. So there you have it. All right, content we liked. Yeah, this one. So Vin actually showed us this one uh he posted on our

slack channel the other day i'm sure most people here know who gus johnson is if you don't he's like i don't know if i want to call it sketch comedy but like short comedy videos i he really reminds me of do you remember man i don't know if it's ProZD or ProzD, another YouTuber who makes like funny sketch things. But they remind me of it because all their sketches have like nothing to do with the other ones. You can watch them completely by themselves. And they're always on the front page of Reddit. Like 30 seconds to like two minute videos

that are on the front page of Reddit. That's how they're sketches. Yeah, sketches. But so Gus did, what was the name of this? Every student film set. It was startlingly accurate because I've been to a lot of film sets that aren't student film sets. They're just poorly run film sets that had a lot of the quotes that he sort of brought

up that were all- They're so good. So I don't want to spoil it that much, but yeah, he's hit every quote. I mean, I think the one we can all assume is he just constantly says, I'll fix it in post. I think I could probably add that in post. We'll fix that in post.

Now, I don't know what that means. I don't know how to add things in post, but we'll fix that. We'll fix it in post. So I highly recommend it. We'll put it in the show notes. It's hilarious. He has a bunch of other funny ones

if you've never seen it. I think one of my favorites is he went to Sub and there was like he's convinced that they chopped the jalapenos and leave the stem part on the top and he went to like a bunch of different subways to see how many steps were in his sandwiches he bought a ton of yeah yeah goes in depth for it good job gus watch gus if you have like hour to kill, you could probably watch 50 of his videos and be crying at most of them. They're hilarious. So that's, yeah, that's our content, content of the week.

Did you hear about the bad guys not using iPhones story? This might be my most, this might be my favorite thing that came up in the news lately. This is, this reminds me of like, they say when you go to film school it ruins movies for you because you like start thinking about like too much of how things are done this is now the if you're into technology you can potentially ruin movies yeah okay so here the the breakdown is this so you've seen product placement in movies you've seen like the sprite canon transformers this is all like obviously planned stuff um you are allowed to use other products in movies even if they aren't paid for as long as you get clearance

or you get permission from the company to use their brand because if you use it without their permission they could sue you if they don't like the way you portrayed it so if you show a a bad guy driving a real uh mercedes and the mercedes logo shows up and then the bad guy shoots somebody Mercedes could sue you because hey dude you can't you can't you know we didn't let you use our brand like that now it looks bad for Mercedes so Apple that's not a real thing that was just an example by the way for everyone yeah so Apple has this sort of long-standing rule where they just perennially green light, you can just use iPhones in movies,

and they're cool with it. So obviously you see a lot of ambiguous blank phones in movies, and they're trying not to show any brands, but we all know what phone that is. Apple's like, yeah, go ahead, show the iPhone, show the Apple logo, it's cool. But if someone uses an iPhone in a movie, they can't also then go use it in a bad way and be portrayed in a negative light.

Just the character can't be portrayed. The character can't be portrayed in a negative light. So your villain, your murderer, serial killer, bad guy in the movie can't be using an Apple product. See, it's funny. You think about it in movies like that, like in a superhero movie, but I think of it as like

if I'm watching Law & Order SVU or something and I'm trying to figure out who the person is. I don't think CSI is even on the air, but kind of like a criminal TV show where you're trying to figure out who's the person that's the bad person, and I'm like, oh, it's him, and then he whips his iPhone out later.

Now it's like, oh, he's him. And then he whips his iPhone out later. Now it's like, oh, yeah, he's not guilty. Yeah, because those shows, you're supposed to like try to think you know who it is. And then 10 minutes in, you're like, maybe it's not him. It's the other guy. And then 10 minutes later, you're like, I think it's the first guy. Yeah, so now if you see someone using an iPhone.

This is a very good chance they're not the bad person. Yeah, they're not going to go do anything too bad later in that movie. Congratulations, you've now had all movies and TV shows completely spoiled for you. Yeah, they're not going to go do anything too bad later in that movie. So, congratulations. You've now had all movies and TV shows completely spoiled for you. Sorry, a little bit, but also it's pretty funny. But it's also really funny, and we had to talk about it. Alright, so

how about before we go into some of the news stories, if you can't hear right now, there's some beeping behind me because we're... Do you think that's legible? People hear that? I don't know if anyone hears it but um you've probably heard in some of our some of our podcasts i think we get the audio pretty solid but we're still in a big room and we're in a big room next to a very high foot trafficked area we've talked about the new studio plenty of times um and we're

starting to move into it which we're very very excited about yeah the podcast studio in the new the whole new space that we have we have several spaces inside i think that's the room that will be probably done first yeah priority one probably and it's going to be the one that i'm most excited to start using because our biggest issue is audio yeah uh i mean like even like one of the things is is like there's this elevator beep and when I'm editing, I try and get rid of it. But sometimes I think it's just the elevator beep also happening while I'm editing. So it sneaks into the podcast sometimes.

We apologize, but we're, we're at the point we ordered flooring. I think we literally right before recording this got the rest of the flooring. We're also now talking to people with sound dampening products and very very excited about that we thought it was going to be pretty we were mostly focused on it sounding good now with these people coming in we're focused on it sounding good and looking good yeah which is gonna be really cool so basically what we want is we started an instagram account w WVFRM Podcast. There's only one post over there, but go over there, follow it, and we're going to give you guys updates.

And we want everyone to kind of give us some suggestions as well. Like we want this to be awesome. We want it to be awesome for you. If we ever do a video podcast in the future, we want it to look great. Functional. You know us. We like high quality content. We want this to be high quality.

So if you're interested in the progress we're making, if you're interested in how we're doing things, maybe why we're doing some of the stuff to make it sound good, go check us out on Instagram. I think I'm going to be spending a lot of time down there in the next few weeks building stuff. So I figured I might as well grab the account and show everyone what's happening and maybe just not bore myself to tears

while I'm putting carpet in for hours and hours. Yeah, this is gonna be, this is a culmination of a lot of the things also that we've learned from number one, being in the space we're currently in, and number two, from other spaces that I've seen. I was on NPR a couple months ago and went up to their studio to be interviewed

and was just looking around the room learning things as I sat there and talked into the mic. Stuff we already have that's already set up is the double-paned glass is soundproof on the outside and there is sound dampening material inside the walls. So already that room is isolated from the rest of the studio, which is isolated from the rest of the building. So it's sort of double isolated.

Then we're adding flooring, as we mentioned, which is something we've already done in here, but that's gonna be starting to take away the echo from the top to the bottom, the bass traps in the corners, which we've done in every room we've ever shot audio in. Then we'll probably have some ceiling stuff and maybe not foam, maybe more of like the hanging fiberglass type of acoustic dampening.

It's something we just we forgot about and then when this this company reached out to us about this the wall stuff they had all of that so yeah the rest of the site had a bunch of other good ideas yeah like we were getting ideas just looking at stuff like that so they're sending samples um and when the samples come in we'll let you guys see it on on the instagram page and yeah and you can get an idea for where we're going with this and hopefully it would be sick if it was done in the next month the only the biggest problem right now is there is still construction going on directly above it so no matter how sound dampening we get the room what we can't do it till the construction is done but if you'd like to

follow along on the journey check us out on Instagram yeah all right so that's a good long recap how about we'll take a short break when we come back we'll talk about fleets uh tcl foldables and coronavirus canceling tech events be right back bet mgm authorized gaming partner of the nba has your back all season long. From tip-off to the final buzzer, you're always taken care of with a sportsbook born in Vegas. That's a feeling you can only get with BetMGM. And no matter your team, your favorite player, or your style,

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about it like 50 times in the last day. And I have no idea what it is. That sounds like Sam. Okay. So, you know, different social media sites are always testing new features and trying to figure out what they want to do, namely stealing features from each other and trying to see if they can do their best to. Speaking of, I think LinkedIn is trying to do stories now. Well, that's a perfect segue because Twitter is now testing its own version of stories called fleets,

which are tweets that disappear after 24 hours and cannot accumulate likes. So they'll just be out there in the ether for 24 hours and then disappear. And this whole disappearing thing is fascinating to me. It's like Snapchat has it, then suddenly Instagram does stories and has disappearing media, and now Facebook has stories, and now LinkedIn is going to me it's like snapchat has it then suddenly instagram does stories and has disappearing media and now facebook has stories and now linkedin's gonna have stories and now twitter's gonna have fleets and uh i don't i guess that's another way to enable people to share but tweets are already pretty great yeah like tweets to me feel like an in the moment i just thought of this i'm sharing my mind kind of thing where it's like instagram turned so much into like the photos became something you really preemptively think

about whereas the stories are like this is what's happening to me same with snapchat snapchat always was a like i'm in the moment i'm showing things people my yeah mainly my friends what's in the moment then it turned into more of a social media platform but uh yeah like unpolished things they kind of are casey almost tried to like start a whole beam was like totally unpolished but youtube has stories now they disappear after seven days i've i've literally never watched one so yeah but like they all have the same philosophy, which is that you have this much more polished, curated content that you spend a lot of time on that you want to live forever,

and then you just have some other things you wanna share just to share and they'll disappear. So allegedly, I guess, people will start thinking of Twitter this way. So you have Instagram, you spend a lot of time on your photo, you edit it, you post it, let it live forever, but also like, hey, I just went and grabbed lunch, here's a photo of it on your photo you edit it you post it let it live forever but also like hey i just went and grabbed lunch here's a photo of it it'll be gone no one really cares tomorrow what

my lunch was today uh now people are going to spend lots of time on their tweets and apparently they're already carefully crafting tweets and not making typos and then if you want to just check out some typos you know hey you got fleets. They're testing it right now just in, I believe, Brazil, and there's an article about how they've been messing with it in other markets, but I found that fascinating. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. I just feel like my Instagram,

like when I'm going into that, I'm expecting to look at stories. I almost feel like I enter in Instagram for two different scenarios. Here I'm gonna go watch stories, and then probably get out of Instagram. Or here I'm going to scroll through my feed. Yeah, I have two different modes too. I will do one or the other.

And I feel like when I wake up and I'm checking my phone for whatever happened in the past however many hours, I start with stories because that's more of things that are just going on in the world. Maybe people just tweeting about whatever's in the news or not tweeting literally just sharing what's happening Yeah And and then I'll go through and scroll down and see what what sports highlights happen and what other posts have been accumulating So I guess that's the way I use Instagram but I'm curious how people would use Twitter's also weird for me because I consider it on more of the like, I don't want to say professional level,

but I follow way more like news and like professional things on Twitter companies and stuff like that. Whereas Instagram is more like friends or specific people I find interesting. So like, I don't know if I want to see a bunch of stories from like political stories and stuff like that. Like Twitter, I get this mix of here's some tech stuff.

Here's some political stuff, which right now is like blowing up. And then I also, to me, Twitter now is kind of what Reddit used to be for me. Reddit used to be on the front page. Once news broke, I always saw it first ondit and that does not happen anymore

whereas now if there's something breaking in the news like weather or pretty much anything i always see it on twitter for twitter first yeah i think that's probably true so i just don't i don't know i feel like stories would get too clogged up with news and political stuff and not the like specific people i'm following and the like the off the cuff kind of stuff i would want to see but personally i'm way more into tiktok stories right now i hope they make tiktok stories let's go uh do you think they'll enable tweet editing if they enable fleets everywhere because clearly twitter is we're dead in the water gosh i know whatever know. Whatever. No, it's all right.

But also, can we say one more thing before we switch? There's a lot of talk about people supporting Jack Dorsey and stuff on Twitter, and I've never had any issues with him. He won't let us edit tweets, but I don't take any super ill will towards that. I've grown to really love Twitter. It's something that I've become a part of since joining here

because I felt like I needed to. And now I check it more than any other social media. I bet if you took all the social medias I check, I'd check Twitter more than all the other ones combined. It's interesting. Yeah. I think Twitter is one of my, if not my favorite social platform outside of YouTube. It's the only thing where I

have a separate app for it on my desktop I have a Twitter app yeah and I don't have that for any other app on my desktop so yeah I'm a fan of Twitter kind of as it exists right now yeah so unless we could edit tweets I'd like it more edit tweets full full support still on edit tweets but but we like Twitter a lot I would be be a little scared if some super big corporations came in and took over. Please, Google, don't kill it. Please, no one kill it. Okay, cool. What do we have next?

I got sidetracked. I was going to share. So we were talking about that Xiaomi Mi Mix Alpha before. And in this world where we have all these crazy, wild phone concepts. TCL also, and this is just kind of like being tossed out there, has a bunch of other concepts of folding phones that aren't necessarily coming to market. One of them's a tri-fold. I'm looking at it right now.

Mr. Mobile, yeah, if you check out that image. Literally, like. We'll post that in the show notes as well. Yo, dawg, I heard you like hinges. I heard folding phones were in, so I've created this. It looks like an inchworm on the table, like it's gonna crawl away from you. You can accordion fold it in this weird way,

but when you flatten it out, it's a triple pane that flats out into one big flat screen. What I didn't notice, okay, yeah, okay, here's something that's interesting. So if you're imagining right now, imagine the Samsung Fold, the first one, that opens up like a book book and now almost flip it on the other side and add another pane going the opposite way yeah so instead of opening like a

trifold like a menu you're opening this is what the z flip should have been if you wanted to name it the z flip and have the the phone look like a z because if you fold it correctly, this will look just like a Z. But the cool thing about it is it changes the problem of not having a screen on the front of the phone when it's folded because now the screen that makes up one third of the inside screen is the screen on the front of it.

It's the outside screen now. Interesting. I think that's kind of cool. Yeah. I don't know if they're going to actually make something like this or if they're going to actually make something like this or if anyone's going to make something like this but it is pretty hilarious

as a phone. We can just try this stuff now. I don't see any reference to size. There's no hands holding it or anything. I'd like to see how big it is. It looks just like a Samsung phone on the back. Well, just like a TCL phone but they look very similar to last year's samsung stuff with the uh horizontal camera array but yeah

coming up into it look it looks like it would be hard to touch the middle i feel like if you were totally opened it would be more of a setting down on the desk oh yeah it's a tablet yeah it's a full on tablet it's a full-on tablet here's the one i really like though is uh the rollable display It's a full-on tablet. Here's the one I really like, though, is the rollable display. So if you can imagine, again, it's hard to explain this stuff on a podcast, but it's like an accordion that slides out

and rolls the display open into a bigger screen. And then when you want to compact it, you just sort of squeeze it, and it squeezes back to another place. Do you notice, like, instead of saying, accordion makes me think folding, imagine, like, old ancient scrolls. Yeah, and then instead of opening it

where it's like you're opening it and the rolls are facing down, flip the scroll over and roll it out, and that's what it looks like. It's just extending the screen by pulling the whole thing apart. This is the one I hope they kind of work on. I'm the most curious about this.

I don't get where it's going when it folds. When it folds closed, like when it compacts, where's the screen going? I tweeted this animation that they've shared. Oh, it's like under me. It's typically behind the screen, so looking a lot like the

Mi Mix Alpha when it's closed. But screen so looking a lot like the me mix alpha when it's closed Mm-hmm But if you can imagine like taking the me mix alpha and stretching the back of it rolling it unrolling it then that whole screen I got a fruit roll up almost that whole screen that was on the back will come around and be the front screen and now You have like a sort of a mid tablet So what's exposed on the back side of it when that screen is now... Probably just some metal paint. Sorry, everyone. We're watching a video, so I'm trying to explain it as best as I can.

On the video, though, it looks like the screen is tucking underneath of something because it's showing that green part as coming up around the top, but there's a space. There's a lip over it. Is the back of the phone not exposed as a screen? Is the screen coming from a channel underneath the back of the phone not exposed as a screen is the screen coming from a channel underneath the back of the phone all of these are very good questions huh that I don't have the answers to I mean I would I would ask Michael about like his experience was not even like a working screen it's like

a you know a fake screen on it but just like a demo of the mechanism see what that looks like yeah but I don't know't know it's kind of cool I think getting this to go from a small size to an even bigger size would be interesting because obviously the whole point of the mechanism is to give you more it sort of starts off like a normal screen size and gets to like a kind

of bigger screen the coolest thing about that though is that it's not making the screen size of the the footprint of the phone is very similar to a regular phone. Like the original Samsung Fold folded in half and then was twice as thick as a regular phone. That is the same thickness and the same size as a regular phone, but you're still getting a like four by three photo when it's all the way pulled out. And like a big square resolution like the fold without the thickness of it so i think that's why i'm interested in it yeah it has the

least sacrifice that looks like the hardest one to pull off true but the the best model if it could work i have no idea if that could actually work but hinge manufacturers you heard what i said about you guys last time you are the most important part of this whole concept phone coming to life project have a load of that one get get get a someone's got their work cut out for them and i already respect them for even trying um all right so next something in the news you may have not heard of um the coronavirus it's not out there it's been on my twitter feed once or twice once or twice uh we talked about how MWC got canceled for it. I don't want to dive too deep into coronavirus and if it's a pandemic or anything like that.

We're just going to focus on it in this tech aspect, but I do think all of us should be washing our hands a little more. Safe to say nothing has really been such a topic of conversation, especially in the most different communities I'm a part of, quite like this. I go home from work and we were talking about it and then I go to practice for my ultimate team and everyone there is talking about it.

Then I go home and we're talking about it. That's because the first case of it is right where you practice. That's true. The first case around this East Coast pop-up right where you practice. That is also true. That's a fun one. It's everywhere. Or the first case around like this East Coast pop-up right where you practice. That is also true, yeah. So that's a fun one.

So it's everywhere. Yeah, wash your hands, try not to touch your face. I guarantee by saying that, someone listening right now is touching their face. I do it all the time, and I've noticed how much I do it recently. Yeah. And if it comes anywhere close to me, I'm screwed.

So a big downside of a slightly pandemic sort of virus is people really don't want to get sick and the best way to do that well it's not a downside that's obviously okay to not try to get sick i mean we still go to ces every year yeah and get sick all the time um but is uh canceling tech events and canceling just events in general where large groups of people would all come in from all these different places all hang out together and then all fly home. I mean, that's how you spread whatever germs, like that's what CES is, is everyone internationally flies, descends upon one convention center, mixes up for a couple days, and then all goes home.

If you ever wanted to prevent the spread of a virus, you should probably stop doing that so much. So we didn't have MWC earlier this year. We didn't have Facebook's F8 conference. Yeah, that just got canceled. There was a game. Which game conference was it? GDC?

No, there was a game development conference or something. GDC? Oh, yeah. That's GDC. Sorry. GDC got canceled. I'm looking at our notes. Yeah, Geneva Auto Show is what I was looking at.

And Google I.O. just got canceled. Go ahead and pull up isitcanceledyet.com'm looking at our notes. Yeah. Geneva auto show is what I was looking at. And Google IO just got canceled. Go ahead and pull up. Is it canceled yet? Dot com. It's so funny. I just saw this on Twitter before and forgot to answer or like add it into the notes. I think Como code posted it. Right.

Yeah. Is that where you found it? It's just. You're our favorite, by the way. But it's a site where you can just go down the list and see like, hey, South by Southwest. What's the deal? It's been sort of upgraded to not sure what's going on status but you can see the long list of things that uh have not happened this year and

it's given it a sort of that are getting canceled or not so it's like so you just open it up google i o yes south by southwest no microsoft build no wwdc no the olympics that's not tech related but that's going to be the the big that's a wig yeah who yeah who that's gonna be a tough one because what is the olympics all people are coming from literally almost every country on earth yeah to one place hanging out in one small place for a couple days weeks and then almost quarantined into place yeah but together oh man yeah olympics could be bad but i think the biggest thing we're like kind of worried about not so much worried about but like the event we're always most excited about because of how well they do is apple events

right and we have wwdc coming up pretty soon so here's it's a curious thing because uh google ios was canceled facebook fa was canceled those are those companies' biggest events of the year. Apple's biggest event of the year is WWDC. And it made sense that Google is able to cancel IO because they do so much of it remotely anyway. They have all these remote sessions. They always stream everything. And they're slowly transitioning to just holding the whole show online. And so much of it's software based also. So there's not a whole ton of like hands-on stuff there. I mean, there is, but not quite as much. So I actually don't think it would be that big of a deal if WWDC, as much as people want to go to something like WWDC, all the developer sessions, all the classes and things like that that they all host there can be hosted online and not too much would be missed. can be hosted online and not too much would be missed. But something like a product announcement where, I mean, we'd have to go all the way to September

when we really expect to see something like this, but there is an anticipated March event that Apple would be holding for the new iPad and some other stuff, and perhaps a 13 or 14 inch MacBook Pro, that we, I don't see how you host a, an announcement event of hardware. You want to show people without bringing people in.

Yeah. Uh, so there's some questions about that. Uh, also the other thing that has been brought up, that's, this is just something that's sort of been all over my feed is the Geneva auto show was canceled,

but all those companies that had stuff that they were going to unveil at the auto show, they're like, Ohil at the auto show, they're like, oh, all right, let's just unveil it anyway and show a press release and maybe bring some people, some video makers in to show this. And so there's still been all kinds of new cars all over my timeline. Volkswagen, BMW, Bentley, Hyundai, McLaren 765LT. Oh, that's all stuff does Wow that's all from Geneva and connect the Koenigsegg Gemara a lot of people have shared so sick the

craziest stories you've ever seen on a car I mean Koenigsegg's always got these crazy dihedral doors but 1700 horsepower four-seater hybrid three-cylinder just like a wild car in so many ways. All this stuff is still being released and revealed because they're not actual products that people can buy at. A lot of stuff is concept cars and just stuff we want to show people. But when you don't have the physical show to bring cars, something that like I would love to like you want to step up to it and see it. Yeah, it's a lot harder on video to to get a good feel of things like that.

Everything can look good on video, but when it comes to cars, there's so many little aspects of it that you want to just walk around the car, sit inside it, get a good feel for it. So canceling that, I feel like it's rough for content creators that want to go out to stuff like that and show their audience. And just enthusiasts in general. When you consider the type of person who might live near there or just want to go to the auto show

or maybe the type of person who would just go to CES or MWC, now you don't really get that hands-on, exciting new tech everywhere experience. You just kind of have to rely on the content. Yeah. It also kind of, in terms of what we're doing and how it affects us is we weren't planning on going to MWC or South by Southwest is still apart, but like half the companies have dropped out of it already. Yeah. That's in limbo right now. Yeah. But since these

companies are planning to announce stuff at that, it really, really messing up some of the stuff we do because they had all these embargoes pretty much set for the announcement and then they completely threw them away because that didn't happen and some of them the verge was talking about how they had a product that they were all ready to go with and then they asked for when the new embargo was and the guy said i don't know yeah i had the same exact yeah we we have a product that we've had for a very long time and we're still not totally sure i think i have a new one we have a yeah okay very long time and we're still not totally sure. I think I have a new one. We have a.

Yeah. OK, it's nowhere near the show. Well, the show is supposed to be a while ago. Right. So there's there's a lot of questions and I think we're all sort of figuring it out as we go. But I think, yeah, if we look back at 2020 is like literally the first year MWC was canceled, like a whole bunch of different events had to go online only. All these questions all being spread on social media it's really interesting just like taking a step back and looking over it all so let's say i don't want to i don't think it will happen but what would you say

if this somehow lasted long enough that the iphone event was canceled but we're totally hypothetically speaking here for anyone listening. I'm just interested. What if this hit later on in the year and we're losing? So the hypothetical is it gets all the way to September and there's still concerns about people traveling and there's a potential of canceling a September event. I think then it just turns into, and if anyone could pull this off, I guess it's Apple,

but I guess it just turns into them doing a webcast, going on stage, doing their keynote in front of Apple employees only. So you still hear people clapping. Yeah, you hear the applause still and they still go through everything and they're like, that's why we've unveiled the greatest iPhone

we've ever made. And everyone goes, wow. The fastest biomic chip ever. Everyone's very excited. But then of course, they're probably still going to try to fly in a couple people to have it, or I don't know if they will ship it out.

I can see a lot of private briefings on the side and stuff like that for creators. So if the content is still available and you're still able to get a good idea of what that phone's going to be like before you buy it, I think Apple could pull that off. I think a company like maybe a Samsung or a OnePlus could kind of pull that off. Some of them company like maybe a Samsung or a OnePlus

could kind of pull that off. Some of them are a little less organized or a little less able to do all that. I almost wonder if it would put them on a more even playing field because Apple blows it out of the water by just offering these, it has Apple Park. Like you said in a previous episode

that the place where you shoot in is just a giant softbox. Everything about an Apple event is so great, so now you just put this to online it might even even the playing field and i mean even in the playing field it's all just an event it's ultimately the product that wins out but yeah it's just interesting to think about if we lost that this hands-on as a creator you'd lose so much creator content and and people who trust creators to bring content to them that we're relying so much more on the companies if we're, so let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

Yeah. I just, I just really hope they are still able to get the product in people's hands as that's like, that's like the one thing I actually care about. So yeah, hopefully ultimately it's something not to like super panic about. I think we just wanted to talk about it hypothetically here. So just wash your hands a bunch and if you wash your hands every day we will have an apple event in september you know how to make it happen people there it is that's it all right let's take a quick break

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All right, we're back, and we're back to answer some Twitter questions. So I tweeted on Waveform, WVFRM, what do you guys want to know? What do you want to talk about? And you guys had a bunch of questions, so we'll get right into those. This is actually, this is turning into one of my favorite segments. So we don't do that in the videos anymore, but you guys have some good questions. I think what's more fun about this is in the videos, you would answer it, where in this, it's like we can have a conversation,

and sometimes that conversation gets derailed, which is kind of fun. I mean, it sucks for editing later, but there'll be times where I'm like, oh, is this a segment? Oh my goodness, that was a question like 20 minutes ago. Yeah, and we don't have to edit it down or anything crazy. One of the top questions I have here,

do you think you will ever have to upgrade your studio again for the rest of your youtube career slash life and uh i think gut answer yes i mean yeah the new place is huge and it's hard it's hard to think about us even moving into it right now with but here's the thing here's the thing i start and every look every level you look at it it's kind of the same thing like when i started with one camera i was like this is. I'll never need another camera. Two years later, I'm like, I need a T2i. Then I'll probably never

literally... This is a joke that John from TLD and I had where some commenter was like, you guys are all shooting with red cameras. It's really overkill and everything, but YouTube compression is pretty serious. The most camera you could ever need on YouTube is a Canon T2i.

And that's sort of a running joke between us. Like, you know, we don't need these cameras, right? We just need a Canon T2i. I mean, you just use the onboard mic for it also, right? Yeah, you're pretty much good with just the T2i and the stock lens. But yeah, sure enough, a year later, I'm like, I need a 6D. Then I need a 6D. I don't need these new cameras. No, T2i is great, by the way. If you have a T2i, that was my first DSLR. Oh, you too? I love the T2i. But yeah, the same thing happens with the studio space where I started recording in half my bedroom. And then I was recording in my college dorm room. And then I was recording in my apartment. And then I moved to this studio space. And this 3,000 square foot empty box seemed like the end all.

Like this was the biggest space in the building. I was like, I can't possibly fill this whole space up. Then sure enough, we need another space down the hall and another one next to that. And sure enough, we're expanding again. Well, yeah, like we made it to the point where we had the two down the hall. And we're like, which means we can keep the main studio space super clean and have plenty of room right now i'm looking at my desk if i turned around and walked like three feet i would bump into a box we just have so much stuff that just comes in here right now and we're we're losing room i mean i know it's a lot of stuff but

we actually use a lot of this and it's to make videos feel as fresh as possible all the time. And I hope you guys all appreciate that. I think if we didn't, we weren't doing that, it very quickly would look like the same thing over and over again and get bored. Yeah. And I also think another part of that is building out the team a little bit. So when you have more people, you know, when I started in my, in my college apartment or something, it's not like I was expecting to have other people helping me with videos in my college apartment. Yeah. Yeah. If you hired me when you're at the apartment, it would be a little weird if I just like set up a desk at the foot of your bed. It's a different dynamic. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, having the space means not only more room

for activities, but more room for people. So that is the long answer to your question is yes. Oh, so Levi Green says, has the Tesla battery efficiency update added extra miles to your car that you've noticed? I know we haven't talked about Tesla yet in this episode, so I had to bring this up. So Tesla threw out a range update for the long range cars. The Model S long range went from, I think, 358 miles to 390 miles with a software update, just unlocking the extra optimized range. I have a performance version of the car, so I have not gotten a range update yet, and I don't think I expect to. Okay.

But if you have a long range Model S or Model X even, you're going to go from like 320 to 350 or 360 to 390. I haven't gotten it yet. I don't think I will. 60 to 390. I haven't gotten it yet. I don't think I will. But that being said, I still get like 330 miles on a full battery

now, so that's pretty good. I'm going rogue. I got another one. Why not 60 FPS videos? Can you explain why you don't like it or why you think it's the wrong frame rate for video? I want to turn this just to explain why I shoot 30 and not 24.

And my hot take is you can go and say 24 FPS is, I'm going to sound really angry right now, but it's true. You can say 24 FPS is a correct frame rate, but the only argument anyone has ever made to me about why they shoot 24 FPS or why I should shoot 24 FPS is because the movies do it. It's cinematic. It's cinematic. It's because the directors do it. And so if you look up why movies shoot 24 FPS and you go back to the beginning of shooting movies and shooting film, you know, we started off with like photos and then moving pictures. And then if you move the pictures fast enough, it looks like movement. We landed on 24 FPS. Believe it or not, I read this because that was the lowest amount of frames per second that they thought were a good

idea where it could convince your eye that it's real movement and a video and not a series of photos. And when I think about that, I kind of believe it. I've seen 15 FPS and I've had cameras that are limited to that and it looks choppy. And then you get to like 24 and then right around there, it's starting to look smooth. And that's true. But that was literally to save money on film, which was very expensive. And 29 frames per second versus 24 meant you were spending that much more on every second of video. So now it's 2020. We have the ability to pick whatever frame rate we want and save money. And here's the thing.

It could be 30. It could be 35. It could be 31. But I found that 24 FPS looks choppy to me. And when I do motion, which is what I do a lot of in my videos uh panning robot shots all this stuff just undoubtedly you cannot convince me otherwise looks worse at 24 fps and I've shot 24 by accident even sometimes I think uh the Elon factory tour when we had to switch cameras out we shot that entire thing at 24 FPS and I had it interpolated

to 30 FPS because I couldn't stand how choppy it was walking around the factory with the gimbal at 24. So 30 FPS is the correct frame rate only because it's much better looking. And I would accept other off answers like 35 or 38, but 30 is such a good standard because then your audio syncs up and there's a bunch of other standards that work well with it I don't shoot 60 because I think that starts to look overly smooth and distractingly smooth when your eye is looking for a certain thing sometimes that works if you're if you're doing game stuff if you're doing other types of videos and you can sometimes get away with it in tech, but I think that starts to

get distracting. So I think my correct frame rate answer, I'm basically ranting, is somewhere between 30 and 45 frames per second. But 30 is perfect because cameras will just do it. Yeah. I mean, it's preference for you as well. And it's something you've been working in for 11 years at this point. So like, I mean, think about when you like you go rent a car, you're no one's saying the car you drive at home is, is perfect, but you get so used to it after driving it for so many years. Whenever I get a rental car and I'm like driving it out of a city, I feel so uncomfortable because I'm just like not used to how it controls or how I'm like sitting and stuff like that and i'm so focused

on the road all the time because all i'm thinking about is like this doesn't feel right so just imagine now editing and watching all this stuff you just spent filming and it just looks totally wrong to you it's not wrong everyone who does that frame writer uses that car in their everyday life yeah it's great for them it's great for you you've been doing this for so long it would feel so strange to change it at this point yeah and i don't i every time i say the correct frame rate i'm obviously poking fun like yeah there is no correct frame rate but like everyone whoever tries to get me to switch to 24 always says the same thing like come on man it's like what the movies use it's cinematic yeah and i'm just i'm done with it i'm putting my foot down on that so there you have it 30 fps for life all right so this kind of fits in with us furnishing the new

studio but someone said how many ikea things do you have mounted in the new studio i'm i'm gonna take out mounted i think that's just a um how many ikea things in the new studio uh right now none zero not a single ikea thing there's not a lot in the new studio yet Right now, none. Zero. Not a single IKEA thing. There's not a lot in the new studio yet. Yeah. I mean, there's some stuff. We have some crates and some furniture. The only IKEA stuff I actually think we have

in this studio is one table and the gear closets, like the cabinets that hold stuff. Those are pretty big, though. Yeah. We've gotten some random things here and there. I think a couple lamps and maybe... I don't even know if we've gotten any into uh some fake plants actually we may have oh yeah a couple trees or something yeah but uh ikea is not a huge

staple actually in our furniture choices we have a variety of things yeah we have one pretty close by which so it's like nice if we need to really run but we actually we order a lot of stuff online surprisingly which is why we also need more studio space because we just have giant boxes showing up all the time also as we furnish this space we want a lot of it to last and when i consider ikea build quality not always built to last very long a lot of thin plexiglass and cardboard and things like that uh i'm looking for some sturdy stuff so yeah might not be full of ikea but we'll probably still see yeah we have to trust some expensive equipment on top of it so that's very true fall over um also on so somebody said what are you most excited about in the new studio let's not include podcast room there because

we've talked about how excited we are for that but anything else specifically that you're very excited about um there's just a bunch i honestly really it's the it's the sound like when it comes down to it like the huge space is awesome the lights we're gonna get these motorized blackout shades that's incredible we're gonna have all the sound isolation that's awesome we're gonna furn, get all the desks in, conference room, TVs, all the tech, the internet, the scannable door key, like all this crazy stuff that we're just now like getting our feet wet with and planning. But when it comes down to it, every time I shoot videos or every time we record a podcast and I have to sit here and wait for someone pacing back and forth behind the window on the phone

to finish his phone call so we can continue making what we want to make, it just dries up the creative process and just puts a fork in my creativity. So I would really like to not have to deal with that anymore. Watch we move into the new studio and release like 200 videos next year because we just realized how long we've been delayed from people making noise. Because it's just going to cut the time in half of like having to wait for people. And like people like walk up to the elevator

and like have a conversation outside the elevator and then the elevator opens and they keep talking. And they don't go in. And they don't go in because they're so busy talking to each other. And then the elevator door closes and makes a loud closing noise and beeps. And then they go, oh, that's funny.

We forgot to get in. And then they call it again and then they wait for it again and it's just just ah the fact we can hear all this stuff um you can hear it in my voice as as a bunch of people now come out of the elevator as i rant about them so uh long story short i mean there's a ton of tech going in there and i'm looking forward to it being like the ideal production environment like studio workspace is gonna be sweet uh but the sound actually being controllable as much as the light is gonna be huge for me yeah i actually think i'm most excited about and this is more on a like everyday thing for us is we have like a small kitchen space in our own bathroom that just like oh yeah that's we don't have to share it with a bunch of people i i don't use the refrigerator in the shared kitchen space here

because i'm just assuming everything we get lost so we have like a little tiny refrigerator i'm i'm excited to just have all of that there that doesn't get you guys hyped at all so if it's something that you guys are gonna see on video uh natural light we're gonna have a lot of it in the new space um natural that's the best light yeah i mean we've walked into the new space and not even turn the lights on some days because the light's so good coming in these like big windows we have so that's gonna be really awesome uh someone asked about uh what do you think about new tech youtubers coming in with good content but not so good video quality uh i would say that's way better than the other way around

because video quality you can work on, I think much more like, what's the word? You can sort of approach that in a much more reasonable step-by-step way than making your content better. When your content's good and the video quality's not amazing, people will still watch it because it's good ideas and good content and good flow.

And then you can eventually up the production value. That's basically what I started with was like pretty poor production value, but talking tech. And then you can add that on top later. Yeah, I mean, as long as the low level quality isn't affecting how you're getting your point across and the stuff you're trying to show on it,

like if your audio is totally not synced or it's pixelated so bad that you can't tell what's happening. But I don't think that's almost even possible to do anymore because we have phones that take good quality video. You have webcams that take good quality video. It's almost impossible to go out and buy a camera that doesn't shoot at least 1080 at this point.

So I will always watch low quote unquote quality that's good and interesting over something could be an 8K and be boring. And I will always pick the quote low quality something. Pro tip, if you have really low quality video, but invest in a pretty decent quality microphone, that's going to make a bigger difference off the bat than trying to get your lighting and your camera equipment and all the sets set up. Just a better mic, you can get away with a lot more. Fun fact. Yeah, no one likes anything screeching in your ears

when you're trying to listen to it or choppy or feedback or anything. All right, I have one. Okay. All right. Any tips for for beginning photographer just bought myself my first camera for a new hobby oh just like the vanilla like i'm a new photographer what should i try to do yeah i'm gonna let's assume that this is and i i don't want to assume but let's assume this is like a dslr that has your average like iso shutter speed uh t2i yeah the t2i let's go let's assume this is like a DSLR that has your average like ISO shutter speed. T2i. Yeah. The T2i.

Let's go back to our days where we both had a T2i and how we progressed with it. So you get the kit lens really, and that's where you learn the most about the limitations of your lens and what you want to be able to do. Is it close focus? Do you want to do a lot of macro stuff? Is it not wide enough? Is it not fast enough? Do you have a lot of like lower light stuff you want to be able to do. Is it close focus? Do you want to do a lot of macro stuff? Is it not wide enough? Is it not fast enough? Do you have a lot of lower light stuff you want to shoot? That's a lot of where you'll figure out what type of photography you really like

doing and then you make your next lens purchase based on that and then you get to switch back and forth between those two lenses and just learn a ton. Shoot a lot. Shoot a lot. Yeah, that's what I learned.

So I started with the 18-35 that came with the T2i. And, you know, that's fine for video, but on a crop lens or a crop sensor, you know, 35 doesn't really get that tight. The minimum focus isn't so great. It's also, I think, an F3.5 wide open. So my next lens, and I put it on my Christmas wishlist, and I got it from Santa Claus, was the $99 Nifty 50, 50 mil F1.8. And that lens was incredible to have, because then now I can get shallow depth of field, I can get close focus,

I can get these tight macro shots, and that opened up a whole world for me so yeah i think uh just really using it as much as possible and learning like what really makes it fun for you and then doubling down on that yeah i would say also like just shoot a lot and understand how to change how to fix your exposure and what all those different aspects do because exposure isn't just like the perfect lighting exposure the ways you change the exposure to get that perfect lighting can also change how you're taking a picture um depending on like shutter speed and aperture and stuff like that so try and learn the ins and outs of all of that before you really get too deep or you go spending thousands of dollars on eight different lenses like you need to understand the cores of taking a picture and there's so many good resources out there to find all that out now

a lot on youtube too yeah youtube's great there's just like tutorial websites online um but like marquez said find out what you like shooting another thing would be go on instagram and follow people who shoot stuff similar to that and And then next time you're out, I like nature stuff. I follow a bunch of nature photography stuff. So when I go out, I'm now looking for a way to replicate something like that. And I can learn how to make that better for me. And by working towards trying to make it better or trying to replicate something, you just learn so much in the process of doing that.

Yeah. All right. doing that. Yeah. All right. Last one. Cool. So you're stuck on an island and can only take three tech things. Okay. What are those things? And I'm going to ban a smartphone from that list.

So you can't like call home. I don't know if I would even do a smartphone because i'm assuming on the island oh wait okay can we charge things on the island or is that one of the tech things that's gotta be one of the tech things yeah it's just an you're on it like literally like an empty like 50 like the size of the studio just an island in the middle of the ocean yeah i don't think i pick a phone because there'd be no service anyways it'd be pretty useless for me typically with these questions i'm trying to like hack my way into an answer that will get me saved from the island. A submarine.

Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking like can I get a boat? But no, if I'm just trying to like I guess stay sane, that's like what you'd use the question for. Okay, yeah. We're staying sane and assuming rescue is coming eventually. You just have to not lose your mind by the time rescue gets there. Okay.

So a solarpowered grill. Is that a good idea? I didn't think of that, and now I want three of those as my three items. That's an item for me. Let me get... Yeah, you're right. There's probably no internet, so what good is any internet-connected thing? Wow.

I guess I'd take like a... It's not even like tech, just like something to fidget with, like probably just like a galaxy fold or something to like open and close a bunch until sand gets in it and it destroys it. I'd probably have something like that. What about like an iPod touch

with like 500 movies downloaded on it already? Oh, yeah, that would be good too. That's probably your best bet for like entertainment. But if you have something like that an ipad you need it if you have an ipad you got to charge it and that's your third item right so like a solar powered battery bank solar powered would be huge yeah yeah to keep it powered so yeah the three items would be solar powered grill okay something to fidget with that also happens to have 500 movies preloaded on it and then a battery powered solar powered battery that can charge stuff this is the scenario where those weird tech things that can do eight different things in one actually makes sense because you have limited items but that is also the only scenario which those make sense so let's

stop making uh like kickstarter pages of a tech thing that can solve solar powered grill with a cooler in it that also has a plug and a battery sticking out boom that's not real but if it is kickstarter i'm coming for you oh man i feel like we really just didn't take that question seriously but no i did that's 100% what I would take to the island. Next video, dropping Marques off on an island with those three things. Sick. Mr. Beast, we're ready.

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