Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Samsung Galaxy Unpacked: No Peeking!

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

This week, it's all about the Samsung Galaxy S26 lineup! Until it isn't. After Marques, Andrew, and David discuss everything about the new phones, they dig into the Nothing 4a teaser video and new Mac...Book rumors. Then, Marques gives his weekly winter weather update (along with a new app suggestion). Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia where people actually get points this time! Enjoy. Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Links: MKBHD - S26 Impressions video Becca Farsace - S26 short Snazzy Labs - MacBook Pro video Snazzy Labs - Cloth Pro Max Music provided by: Epidemic Sound This episode brought to you by: Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/waveform Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 on March 13th this year for another live episode of the Waveform podcast on the Vox Media podcast stage. Last year, we had a ton of fun fielding some really smart questions from the audience. And a couple dumb ones. Yeah, okay, maybe one dumb one, but I think that actually came from David. Either way, it was a lot of fun and we're excited to do it again. It's all part of the Vox Media podcast stage at South by Sondon. Southwest, presented by Odu.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Visit Voxmedia.com slash SXSW to pre-register and get 15% off your staff by badge purchase. So that's Voxmedia.com slash SXSW. Hope to see you there. It's just like what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are. I need to know what it's going to be. I can go outside. Casual. Can you link up with other people?
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Starting point is 00:01:45 I'm Andrew. And I'm David. It is Friday again, just so you know. So those of you who watched the last episode, if you didn't, it wasn't a Friday. But now we're back to our regularly scheduled programming. I know how everyone else feels because it's actually Wednesday here and you just said it's Friday. So for us, that's very confusing. Right. Yeah, this is just to lock us back in, so people listening know what day it's coming out.
Starting point is 00:02:06 The dishes we're going to get done anyway. Today's episode, we've got Samsung Galaxy S-26 official unveil. We've got nothing phone 4A partial official unveil, and we've got some weather talk. But first, there was a blizzard. Yeah, but first, we're doing South by Southwest again. It's happening again. So for those of you who don't know, or if you're new here last year, we did our first ever live waveform podcast in front of a in-person studio audience.
Starting point is 00:02:36 We did it at South by Southwest in Austin, Texas in the spring, and it was a lot of fun, and we got invited back to do it again, and we're going to do it again. So if those of you who were like on the fence about going to Southby, or if you're already going to be there, we'll see you there. We'll try to put the official, do we know the time slot? 10 a.m. Friday, March 13th, 10 a.m. Vox stage. We're doing this on a Friday of 13th. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 There's two Friday the 13th. in a row. There's one in February and March. That's good luck, right? Yeah, for us. Oh, yeah, double negative. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so the second Friday of the 13th in row, we're going to be on stage at 10 a.m. in Texas, uh, on the stage doing podcast things. Come say hi. Yeah. Ellis will run up and down the aisles again, and it will be beautiful. And I'll trip up the stage. If there's one thing I know to be true, it is that Ellis will be running up and down the aisles. That's right. It was genuinely really fun last time. It was awesome. We had a Q&A section. We had some more engaging back and forth with people in the audience.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It was fun, so we're going to do some of that again. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. All right. We have a new, did they even test this? I hear it's Adam's turn. It's my turn. Okay, finally.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I have been waiting for this moment. Wow. So, on WhatsApp, I use, I have a group chat with my friends, and we send each other mainly voice messages, because we have, like, long updates. So every once in a while, you'll just see, like, a 10-minute message. And it's like, all right, like, next time I'm commuting home. or on the subway and I have like 10 minutes. I'll just, you know, just listen to this short little podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Wow. So I'll press play and then it'll just like pause randomly when I put the phone back in my pocket. So for the longest time, I have to press play on the voice message and make sure that it's still on the message before I put the screen to sleep. And then I can put the phone in my pocket. And I thought this was a pixel or an Android bug. Turns out I think it's just a pixel bug because the other day I was using the S-25 edge I borrowed from the office just to play around
Starting point is 00:04:39 and I was leaving a voice or listening to a voice message as usual and fully expecting to have to do this weird thing where I put the screen to sleep before I put in my pocket because the proximity sensor messes up what it thinks is happening and everything and it just worked perfectly on the S-25 edge. So I think this is a pixel issue specifically where...
Starting point is 00:05:02 Like flip to hush? Yeah, like the proximity sensor just gets messed up and even if I'm wearing headphones it'll just like stop playing or it'll start playing through like the earpiece of the phone instead of like...
Starting point is 00:05:11 Oh. It's very, very annoying. It's very weird. So it doesn't just stop. It just plays through another source. It plays through another source. Like it thinks that... What?
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's weird than just weird. That's weird. Like I'll press play, put the phone on my pocket and instead of playing through my headphones like it normally just was it'll start coming out of the ear piece on the phone.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Hmm. Very weird. So I'm just wondering if they even tested this. Wow, they probably didn't test it on a pixel. Yeah, WhatsApp. These messages on the pixel. Yeah, I don't know whose fault this is. Pixel, Android, WhatsApp.
Starting point is 00:05:42 There's many people at play. I'm happy to blame meta. Yeah. I'm happy to blame it. That's true. I'm always happy to play that. Yeah, could be meta's fault. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I was like deep in the forums and everyone was like, this is the only hack that works, and this has been happening for months. Wow. Damn. But like leave it on the screen where the message is playing. Put the screen to sleep. And then when you put in your pocket, the proximity sensor won't mess up. What do you think most people blame in a scenario like this?
Starting point is 00:06:04 The app maker. The app maker, right? Yeah, probably the app maker. I think that's true. So, like, the app maker kind of has to fix the issues, even if it's potentially from a different phone because they're going to be the ones. Yeah. It's like a settings issue or like a feature of the phone.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And people are smart enough to blame the phone maker. But if it's just an app maker, that's easy to just be like, fix your app. Yeah. What's app with that? Hmm. Crazy. All right. Has that Slack issue, fix it. itself yet. WhatsApp is a meta product. I thought you were just randomly bringing it. It was like
Starting point is 00:06:35 same here, bro. I mean, for every other reason as well, but yeah, it's a meta product. So now we have two on the board. The Slack thing is not fixed by soon. Uh, no. I also, people said they liked the segment. No one said they had the same issue in Slack. So I'm really wondering if it's, it feels like just you. Well, I have, I pulled up and also had the same thing. Yeah. Well, remember last time I did this and I was like, oh, I have this thing that unlocks my front door and it's crazy that they don't have a widget, and then the next week, they were like, David, we made you a widget, and now it's a feature. And I'm like, well, I can't complain anymore, I guess. I don't have anything else. There was one person who commented, I'm starting my Slack internship this summer. This is the
Starting point is 00:07:12 first thing I'll bring up. Yes. Big summer project. Fixing that icon. Yeah. Sick. All right, well, we did get a new Samsung Galaxy S26s. And for video viewers, you can see I'm holding the S26 Ultra. You might not have been able to tell that it's an S-26 Ultra because it looks exactly like an S-25 plus But I promise is the Ultra It's the new violet color That's violet? Yeah, it had like a two-word name
Starting point is 00:07:38 That feels blue to me. Something violet. Cobalt violet? Yeah, that's what it is. Cobalt violet. One of the new... What's shiny colors? Violet.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You're turning violet. Two colors now? Yeah, cobalt violet. Cobalt violet. Anyway, yeah, so we know all the things now. All the specs, all the features of S-26, S-26 plus, and S-26 Ultra. Quick story.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I didn't get to go to the event. Yeah. So here's the thing. Here's the thing, maybe a little inside baseball, but for those of you who are also tech YouTubers, you know about this. So Samsung, when they're coming out
Starting point is 00:08:12 with a new phone, for example, will first reach out to all of the tech media, whoever it is, and go, hey, we've got something to share with you. We have a briefing slot for you, and we have a content capture slot for you in this nearby city. and, you know, we kind of have read the rumors we've deduced.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We kind of figure out what it is and we'll go, oh, okay, yeah, this is going to be the S-25. And we'll go, okay, we go on the briefing. They'll explain all the features and specs and price and we can answer any questions. And then we'll go to a content capture session. So if you're a video creator or a social media creator, whatever it is, you have time to get hands-on and make your video. And that's what you'll see all the YouTubers publish at embargo time or when the official announcement goes out, right? they've had one in New York many times. They've had one, I'm assuming, in California many times.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I think there's usually one in London somewhere many times, so that creators from all over the world can just sort of fly to these local places. And then lastly, they'll have Unpacked. And then Unpacked is their big event where they'll do the whole unveiling for everyone else in public to see. And they always ask us to go to Unpacked, but I don't know. By the time I've made my video, there's nothing really more for me to see at Unpacked. So I typically don't actually go to Unpacked. impact. That also, that always hasn't been the case of the, like, briefing right before. And then
Starting point is 00:09:30 it's weird, the embargo coming out at the same time as the event. So our video is totally made by the time the event comes. So it's like, what else is the event for? Yeah. Yeah. That always hasn't been the case. But it has been lately. I've gone to unpack a few times and been like sitting in the audience waiting for the event to start and published my video from the seat at the event, which is like, that's, they just, they've done it all us like that like the same time. Uh, So, but lately they've just been like, please come to unpack, please come to unpack. But also here's all the stuff ahead of time, so maybe you don't have to go to unpacked. This year, they're like, yeah, there's no content capture sessions anywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You have to go to unpack to your content capture session. I said, all right, I guess I'm going to unpack this year. It's in California. And then we get two feet of snow, and it shuts down two straight days of flights. And I booked and rebooked and rebooked and rebooked and had two straight days of flights canceled, and I just literally couldn't go. Brandon did go because he flew out of a less snowy city and he was actually able to get there.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So he shot a bunch of footage out there while I got the footage back here. I got my briefing still. I got to combine all of my information and the footage. And so I've seen the phones and I make the video and the video still goes live at the usual time. But yeah, that's sort of backfired where Samsung finally got me to go to unpacked.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And then the blizzard was like, no, it's not going to happen. Can you tell the story of the phone arriving this morning? Oh, yeah. So then, you know, on Pact, you also are supposed to, you know, pick up the review device so I can make my review. And since I'm not there, I said, Samson, can you ship it to the studio? I said, sure, yeah, we'll ship it to the studio. It'll arrive on Wednesday, which is today.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So I'm editing this video this morning of the, you know, Brandon's footage and putting this whole video together. And I get like a knock on the door. And the door slides open on the studio. and there's a guy standing out of breath holding a huge pink bag in his hand like this is you and he's points at the bag and it's got a label on it and I'm like what I assume this is not for me he's got to have the wrong address but I go yeah can I like maybe help you find the right place and I look and sure enough it is our address it says MKBHD it says our sweet and everything and I go oh okay yeah no this is for me so I sign for it he goes sign write your name And I signed it, wrote my name. And then he dipped, and that was it. And I opened the huge pink box, and there's a smaller EPS box inside. I opened that box, and it's the Samsung Galaxy S-26.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Was he out of breath because it was, like, by 10 a.m. He was out of breath because he was, like, a courier, like a local service courier. So maybe he was, like, stress in trying to get it here on time or something. Maybe he had a deadline, but he definitely was out of breath. He was in shorts and a t-shirt and boots. There's a lot of snow. outside. It felt like he ran here. He probably sprinted through
Starting point is 00:12:23 mounds of snow to get here on time. I don't... Yeah. It makes outfit. Also, I don't think you're understanding how big the pink bag was that he came back. It was like gigantic. It was like four feet tall. Yeah. It was like this huge zip around the middle of it. So it just really didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, it's outside. We can take a picture and put it on the pot. It's gigantic. It made no sense. I was like, this cannot possibly be for me. Tim and I were getting water in like the lobby and saw him walk in She's like, what is going on? And then we walk back and he's in the office talking to me. So it's just for the phone and the buds?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yep, just for the phone. Just a phone. That's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, now we have it here. So shout out to that guy because now we have the phone and we can talk about it in person. And I want to issue my disappointment to Samsung. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Okay. Is this for all the phones? No, just for the ultra. Oh, okay. They've just slowly made the ultra look just more and more like the plus. And, you know, I understand that when it was like really sharp edges, Maybe that was like not the best for your pockets. I get that.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But I feel like the more aggressive design was very much like, it's ultra, it's the ultra. The S-21 Ultra is the best designed of all of them. I'm just going to put that out there. So I'll just run through real quick so people know what's new or different about this Ultra. Because you're totally right, and I have a lot of the same thoughts.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. First of all, they slightly change the design. It's a tiny bit thinner. It's a tiny bit more rounded, so it's a little bit less square. It gets a little more rounded. They updated the camera rings to now also have this like plateau around them,
Starting point is 00:13:51 kind of like the rest of the S series lineup, and they switched back from titanium to aluminum rails. That's what everyone's doing. Everyone's like, oh, it's bad thermal. I don't think other phones have had that plateau. The base phones, or sorry, not the base phones. No, you're talking about the folds. The folds have had this.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yes, and now the whole lineup has this. So now they all look the same, as David is saying. And, yeah, they're like a couple new colors, and there's still $1,300. Still has the S-Pen, still has the bright screen on the front. And the one big, interesting new feature is on the display, which is kind of insanely complicated. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they did this, but it's the privacy display feature, which is, okay, video viewers are going to see this in person. You can clearly see, like, the viewing angles of the screen are pretty good normally.
Starting point is 00:14:42 But you've seen those privacy screen protectors people put on their phone sometimes where if you put it at an angle, it's pitch black. Those are kind of annoying because they, like, ruin your screen usually, and also you have to take it off if you get annoyed by it. This is built into the phone. You can turn on privacy display, and now, when I tilted off axis, it blacks out the phone. And this works from vertical axis, horizontal axis. It's very effective. And not only is it very effective, but you can customize exactly how it works,
Starting point is 00:15:15 so you can have a blackout the whole display, or you can have it only black out certain apps you can choose those apps or you can only have it black out password fields and notifications if you want like it's very specific to Can you do the password fields? I swear I remember them showing a thing for that
Starting point is 00:15:31 but I don't remember them showing it in the event. So password fields it says pin pattern and password that's just lock screen and settings and secure folder. Okay, so it's not in a bunch of other apps but if you just black out your whole banking app like that's probably yeah. Yeah, you should do that.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So, yeah, that it seems to work incredibly well. It only dims the display a little bit when I turn it on. It's really good. Yeah, it seems like they're doing it by directing the light only directly up out of the screen instead of letting it kind of emit. Almost like a pair of washers over each individual pixel. Yeah, lenses. That, like, goes higher to narrow the width of the light.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah. It's a cool idea. Which is really cool. I want to, like, see, you probably can't see it up close because it's so. Think of that on every single pixel. And that you can like turn it on and off. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Well, yeah, I guess so then they come back down all the way to the bottom so it doesn't interrupt the width of the light emitting. So it raises. But like the little animation they showed was like, oh, there's just, everyone's got an animation for everything, like the Fort Knox animations 800 times. Like this means nothing. But this I was watching. I was like, oh, wait, that's really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah. Yeah. And I wish I could see like the mechanical. aspect of it seems to be hardware right it's hardware it's display innovation when you turn it on do you feel like something moving inside like how does that even no so essentially samsung i thought you want a kid joke samsung i was waiting to see the the how they explained it in the keynote because my briefing didn't have a lot of technical information on how exactly they're achieving this but the way they seem to describe it in the keynote is they have half of the pixels are regular wide emitting light pixels
Starting point is 00:17:16 and half of the pixels have this sort of a focusing hardware on them. I don't know if it's hardware or lenses or whatever, where they are very narrow emitting just forward. And so when you've turned this feature on, all of the wide emitting pixels turn off because it's an LED. And you're just left with the narrow emitting pixels. Oh, so it's not all pixels that have this like screen over it. It's just the random.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's half of them. Got it. And so if you have just those narrow emitting pixels on, I assumed I would see a big hit-to-screen brightness. And I'm sure maximum brightness is lower, but it still looks totally fine when I look straight at it. And, yeah, then you can customize, like, which pixels turn on and off. So if you just have a notification come in,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you can just turn those narrow pixels on, and I'll leave the rest as wide-emitting pixels. Does that mean your resolution is worse when it's on? Yes, yes. I didn't think of it. So half your pixels are off, so half your resolution is gone. And all of them are on when the privacy protector is off. Correct.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So it's using the narrow and the wide one. normally. Yeah. Huh, that's really cool. I guess if you're somebody who really wants just privacy on some things, then you don't really, no one cares if they have 4K Bank of America app open, I guess, but, um, yeah. So you do lose, I wonder what the resolution is. Is just, so the resolution is the same. It's still a 1440P display when it's maxed out. So yeah, it's theoretically half, half your pixel density is gone. And I mean, I'm looking at it like really up close because I maxed out the screen resolution right away and I turned it on. And yes, it does get a little bit more pixelated from this angle is crazy because I saw you looking at it and then
Starting point is 00:18:54 when you turned it on it just went blacked out. That's hilarious. Perfect angle. Yeah, I don't mind that resolution loss for that feature. You should show Ellis the, because I think you missed that part of the event where like a notification comes up and just the notification is like black. You did see it. That's cool. That is like one of the cooler demos I've seen. In a while, I... Yeah. I mean, they used a lot of the keynote talking about that for sure. It was the first thing that they talked about during the keynote.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So, to Samsung's credit, and they've done like a bunch of crazy display innovations in the past, they've done the note, they've done the Galaxy Mega, they've done the Galaxy Round, they've done the tri-fold, the regular full. They've done a lot of crazy screen stuff, so this is right up Samsung's alley. But also, to your point, David, the rest of this phone feels less unique than ever before. Yeah, for sure. I think my review, I feel like I have to say, feels less like an ultra than ever before. Yeah. It does have a S-pen,
Starting point is 00:19:47 but it's kind of just like away the Bluetooth than the S-Pen. It's like a bigger S-26 plus. I think to David's point, like the boxier display, like it still all kind of felt like a note to us, right? Like it felt like the note was just released at the same time and they called it ultra. Now this just feels like an S-26 lineup.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, like plus plus or, yeah. I mean, my theory is like last year for Q1, 2025, of all the Samsung phones sold, the S-25 was the third highest selling with the two before it being the cheap phones, like the pay-as-you-go phones, which sell a crazy amount. And so I think that they probably
Starting point is 00:20:22 just want to make the ultra more appealable to more people and seem less aggressive so that more people are content with it. It's really interesting. Because everyone in the United States, not everyone in the United States, but a large chunk of the United States just buys phones through carriers anyway
Starting point is 00:20:36 on carrier plans. Yep. And so most of these companies are selling the most expensive phone to the most people. So at least in the United States. The iPhone 16 apparently did sell more than the 16 Pro Max in the Q1 of 2025, but the Pro Mac is always near the top. Yep.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So I don't know. I'm assuming they're just trying to sort of like make it a little more simple, so it appeals to more people. Well, you know, they also narrowed the difference in price between the base phone and the max or the Ultra. This is. Yeah. Did they at least raise the storage?
Starting point is 00:21:05 So they did. Because iPhone did this too. Yeah. So last year. S25 was 799. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I got confused, I think. They, technically the S25 is the same price without the 128 gig option. Which is exactly. They keep doing this. But it didn't Apple. Apple was the same price as the year before, but you just got the more storage. That's what Samsung should have done. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Samsung just took away a cheaper option. Yeah. And kind of like played it off with like, well, you get more storage. storage it's like yeah but you could have gotten that same phone for the same price so there is no storage is crazy right storage like have the cost of the phone so there is no 128 gig version of the of the S26 at all it starts at 256 gigs okay and that phone is nine is eight is nine hundred dollars eight ninety nine for the regular one regular S26 whoa that's garbage so then it's two fifty six gig
Starting point is 00:22:04 eleven hundred for the S twenty six plus no way eleven hundred and then it's thirteen for the Ultra. That's crazy. So, yeah, they're all expensive phones. And when you look at what other phone companies are calling Ultra, with these crazy fast charging, like, silicon carbon batteries, and these massive display and camera arrangements, like all these insane features that they're doing,
Starting point is 00:22:25 this doesn't feel as much like an ultra phone, like the way those do. Yeah. You know? They're really trying to sell the Ultra, though, because when you go to Samsung.com and you go to shop, it just lists Galaxy S26 Ultra. and then from there, when you go to that page,
Starting point is 00:22:41 you can pick GalaxyS 26. And it's like a tab on the top that's really easy to miss. It's like, you're going to buy the Ultra. You're going to buy the Ultra. Wait, does the, do the regular ones come with the privacy screen, or is that an Ultra feature? Nope, UltraFutri. That's only Ultra.
Starting point is 00:22:54 So that 26 and 26 plus is... They're the same phone. It's the same. And they're kind of terrible deals compared to like the Pixel and the iPhone. And those phones really didn't change much. Like, I think the battery went from 4,000 to 4,300 on the base. otherwise it's like same phones, same cameras, slightly different design,
Starting point is 00:23:13 mostly everything else is the same. The most boring looking phone I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, it's a generic standard phone. It's honestly not even a, it's not, Pixel isn't even a better deal because pixel 10 is 800, but that's at 128. Inside you, there are two wolves. So it's 256, you're at the same price. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You're either the S-26 standard edition or you're the trifold. Yeah. The two wolves of Samsung. This, the Ultra, all you needed, all you need to do. If the S-26 Ultra comes out with the privacy screen, Chi-2 and like a silicon carbon battery, it's like phone in the air, right off the, like, that's bad your phone.
Starting point is 00:23:55 What an actual upgrade. Instead, they're like, Hey, here's a pretty cool thing. Let's give you that. Nothing else and just yap about AI slop for a while. Didn't you say they would have, you thought it would have magnets? I do have to issue in Nepal. to all of our listeners.
Starting point is 00:24:09 We thought it would have next. We strive for accuracy at this podcast. That was a prediction. I gave you. A very confident. Fake news. And I apologize. But next year,
Starting point is 00:24:19 we got it next year. Because we all said it wasn't going to have Maxx. Well, my uncle works at Samsung, and he said that next year, they're going to go cheat you. Yeah. But he's going to ban you if you know?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. Bigsby stick or something like that. Yeah. Speaking of Bixby, you know, a lot of the other features that they talked about with these phones and that are new are software.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So a bunch of AI stuff, a bunch of Bixby, a bunch of integrations, Gemini here, perplexity there, a little bit. You know, there's a new, the new Bixby technically, technically LLM powered. It used to be a small language model. Now it's a large language model. So I'm going to be trying out to skip the Bixby. So, yeah, we'll see how that goes. But yeah, it's just, they manage to import or build their own versions of a lot of the same features that have made pixel phones, pixel phones. It's like they have call screening now.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And they just have a different name for it. But they have like that. They have, God, it's like the image. A nudge or something? Yeah, now nudge. Now nudge, which is essentially magic cue, which is both meaningless things to say out loud. But it's basically built into the keyboard
Starting point is 00:25:22 will give you suggestions of things to type based on the context of the conversation you're having. When they announced that, I was like, AI power. I had that for 50 years. I was like, Marquez, is this that thing Google has? And both was for like, I can't remember the name of it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You looked it up. And then I went. I honestly don't know if that's working on my phone because either I just don't use it and skip by it all the time because it's so useless or it literally doesn't work. I couldn't tell you which one it was.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, I hardly use it. It doesn't really work on the pixel. It's supposed to be a fun pixel feature. Yeah, it popped up once for me and it was wrong. Unfortunately. So yeah, maybe now Nudge will be a little better. Maybe. They also have this image playground thing.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I think it's called Creative Studio where you can AI generate whatever thing image you want. They had endless AI generated images as features of cupcakes, basically. I think Allison Johnson posted an article that was like
Starting point is 00:26:18 Samsung is on Slop Watch for unpacked 2020. They called it an AI phone in all caps. Are they AI agents? Oh, yeah. Didn't they call it AIOS? Samsung just invented iOS. It's an iOS. It's an iOS. They didn't invent an iOS.
Starting point is 00:26:35 AIO. A.O. Okay. There are other iOS. Yeah. Apple IOS. Yeah. Your grammar is wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Shouldn't be an AN iOS? Yeah. It was tough. Yeah. It was tough. So, you know, take it or leave it. Some of that stuff, I'm sure, will trickle down to older phones as well. But if you're thinking about S-26s, you now know that they're very similar to S-25s.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And then the Ultra has this one sick display feature. Charges at 60 watts now? That's a big thing. So the whole lineup charges a little faster than before. 25 watts on the base, 45 watts on the pole. plus 60 watts on the ultra. I wonder if it's, because I remember,
Starting point is 00:27:09 this is either the, I think this was the S20 Ultra when they set it charged at 45 watts and it only charged at 45 watts for like two minutes. This will be similar, I think. It's gonna peak at 60 watts, but I think this stat that's maybe more informative
Starting point is 00:27:21 is it's like zero to, or 10 to 80% and half an hour or something like that, which is decent. Can I complain about something that's only for us? In the spec sheet that they sent us for your briefing,
Starting point is 00:27:34 the way they describe charging is the S-26 has super fast charging the S-26 plus has super fast charging 2.0 and the S-26 Ultra has super fast charging 3.0. Oh my gosh. No wattage numbers, no, no. This is exactly the how something else.
Starting point is 00:27:50 This is how Apple does it too. I had to get that. They just give you this bad branding without any of the technical. That same sheet has an option, like it shows all the storage options and then it says microSD. Not available, not available, not available.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Like, why even have that back back? Just get rid of that column. Yeah. Let's be going to bring it back. I don't know. Anyway, yeah, it comes in Cobalt Violet, which I don't know why they called that. That's my favorite Microsoft product. Cobalt.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Microsoft Cobol Violet. Oh, Copilot. I was going to say Duolipa hates that call. I didn't get it. Thank you for spelling it out. I didn't get it. You're going to keep that in the podcast? Hey man, you had a lot of bangers last week.
Starting point is 00:28:35 You can't win them all, okay? Sky blue, which I did like that color. Black and white did not like those colors. No. Black is the one. Are there any online exclusive colors? Yeah, there are. Silver shadow.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Whatever that means. Wait, that's the exclusive. It's like gray, basically. And pink gold, also exclusive. Not rose gold? Not rose gold. That's patented. Yeah, fair.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I don't even see. Oh, I almost forgot. How could I forget? Slightly wider apertures in the Ultras primary and telephoto cameras. Never mind. I'm all in. How could I forget? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They do have like an action mode now that they had that like straightens the horizon. And Becca did like a short on it. And it actually did look very good. She was able to like rotate the camera like this and the image stayed like exactly the same. It like did not move it all. It's clever. It's similar to what Apple did with the selfie camera on the iPhone. where if you are recording a small enough section
Starting point is 00:29:32 of that rectangular sensor, then you can fully stabilize the center portion. The whole thing based on whatever the orientation is. I'm just explaining that poorly, but it's clever and uses the hardware well. Marquez, we are locked in because I was about to bring that up because I was so mad that they did not steal that from Apple with the S-20.
Starting point is 00:29:50 The square sensor. Yeah, like, why not? I was just hyping this feature up yesterday to Just because she was asking me how that selfie feature worked. And I was like, it's so good. I can't wait for everyone to steal it. There's actually an event tomorrow that maybe we'll see what the S-12. And nope, no stealing.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So they didn't do it with the selfie camera, but that one feature of like super-super-stabilization horizontal lock allows you to like literally flip your phone upside down and the horizon stays locked because it has that much degrees of stabilization. Yeah, which is cool. Well, that's boring. So Samsung phones for you? We should, should we do the nothing phone before we take it a break?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Or should we do it after the break? Let's save it for after the break. Okay. Yeah. All right. But you know what we should do before the break? The MacBook. Trivia.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Oh, okay. Little teaser there. Head fake. The MacBook. There's a new... We're going to talk about a MacBook. What? Later.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Why is that not in the outline? It is. I have nothing about this MacBook. You have nothing? All right. Well, the question... Ellis hit it. Were you paying attention?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I knew it. The most boring keynote to all time. You guys were not paying attention. Oh. This whole keynote could have been a press release, but at the end of it, they showed off an expert raw mode feature that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and fish and stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:09 What is it called? And actually, this feature is not new. Apparently, I was looking at it up. It was released an S24 Ultra, which is funny. They just brought it up again. They just brought it up again for reasons. I think I remember what they called. That's these companies' favorite things to do is to reintroduce a feature as if you're hearing it
Starting point is 00:31:25 for the first time. Yeah. They do that a lot. There's so many times when we're like writing scripts on stuff like that, I have to just go back and check things again and be like, I know in the briefing they just like claimed it seemed like this is brand new. Yeah. And then I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:31:39 that happened already. I mean, they showed Circle to Search twice in this one event. This is the 40th time they've showed Circle to Search. I swear. Yeah. All right. I think we'll remember.
Starting point is 00:31:49 We'll think about it. Manatee node. I swear I was bad intention. I wasn't. I don't even remember the question Adam as. He wasn't even pay attention to this podcast. All right. Which pixel came in coral?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Oh, that was three. In the biz, we call that a callback. No, three of a sand. Answers will be at the end like usual. Four. We'll be right back. Support for the show comes from Shopify. So the early days of starting in business are equal parts, exciting and terrifying.
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Starting point is 00:33:26 I think we've used that joke like 70 times. And I will continue to use it. No, it's funny. That's my bad. I should have done a little, I should have made it better. No, it's okay. But the Nothing Phone 4A got unveiled, I guess, is the word, because they always do like several different unveilings.
Starting point is 00:33:40 They showed us the design for the first time and confirmed exactly one spec because they mentioned the periscope camera. So for those of you who are on the edge of your seat about what type of telephoto lens they would be using, confirmed. It's a periscope camera. It's a tetraprism lens. Anyway, I think it looks pretty good. It's desaturated red.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Understatement of the century. You guys seem really interesting. to the aesthetics. I think it's really nice looking. It's the best nothing fun. It's the best nothing fun. Really? Okay, so I think the 2A
Starting point is 00:34:09 was probably their best so far. I think it looks as good. It's a better version of the 2A. It's like less aggressive than the 2A. Sure. And it's de-saturated red. It's got nice, okay, so the, yeah, it's got a lot,
Starting point is 00:34:20 I guess I'll try to describe it. It's got a lot of the same silver, white, and red aesthetic, the clear with the, like, textures and text underneath. And then it has the glyphs on the top right side. which is just a stack of seven large boxes. I like this part a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I do too. The bottom most box is red, and then each one of the boxes above it is white. And so they played with different animations of things that they can indicate, whether it's a timer or a notification, where those boxes move in stack. Recording light is the red one blinking.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Cool stuff there. Every phone should have a red blinking recording light. And the AI glasses. That's what I was thinking watching this. I was like, this is important. I feel like everyone needs this. Even harder to agree on glass. The glasses.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Every pair of smart glasses when it's recording should be blinking red. It's crazy that it's not. I think why I like this better than the 2A is the 2A had the two cameras in a little cutout with a big circle around it where this is the longer bar more like a pixel and the like silver lining around it matches it. It doesn't get any pixel. It's kind of like nothing X pixel. Yeah. It's got the bean. The bean.
Starting point is 00:35:29 It's got that bean. The bean is back. cameras. Yeah, it looks good. It does look good. I think it looks really good. The LEDs, like you said, are awesome. It's a seven by one vertical to the right side of the camera bar. Bottom one is red. There's some pretty cool ways of using it. Like, if there's a timer on the nothing phone three, that had this stupid little spin the bottle thing. That would be like sand falling into an hourglass. That was cool, though. So this is just like slowly, it'll blink at the top and then slowly fall down to the bottom and stack up as a timer.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. The camera shut, like if you're doing like a camera timer, yeah, it'll blink. And then when the shutter goes off, yeah, like top and bottom connect like a shutter. Yeah. It's really awesome. I wish, and this is probably not a wish for a, this is, you know, the A series or the cheaper one. If all of those were different colors, that would be awesome. Because then my, like we all want with notification LEDs, my emails are blue, my text messages
Starting point is 00:36:31 are green, my whatever. Like having that, this I think you can do stuff similar, but you're learning like patterns of how the glyph works. Yeah. Which is harder. Do you guys think this will be cheaper? Because it is the A, but he also made that announcement.
Starting point is 00:36:46 The blog post about cheaper? I don't think it'll be cheaper. He made that big blog post a few weeks ago about how all phones are going to be more expensive this year. No, no, I think it'll be cheaper than like the three. The three series. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Because there will be no four series, but that's also in the A series. Well, they won't be a four series this year. This year, yeah, sorry. That's true. Yeah. But, I mean, he made that big blog post about how all phones are going to get more expensive,
Starting point is 00:37:11 which has not really came true yet. How much was the 3A when it came in? Which one? Bam, you're right. 3A glow in the dark edition. The light or the 3A, the 3A, 3A, pro. 3A was 370.
Starting point is 00:37:25 What's the 3A pro? What about the CMF pro light? 3A pro. launch price was $459. I think it'll be in between those. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah. 400.
Starting point is 00:37:36 425. Do you think they'll launch a 4-A-Pro? Yeah. I think if you're not... Yeah. I'll say if there's no 4-series, do you think this is going to be nothing's only phone launch of the year?
Starting point is 00:37:49 For the year. That's what they said. I mean, unless they do a pro. Yeah. I feel like I can also just based on how they've done this in the past, like, kind of guess the rest of how this phone's going to go.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Mm-hmm. Like, you can see the triple cameras on the back. Right. It's probably going to be a solid Qualcomm mid-range chip. It's probably going to be 120 hertz, OLED. Probably 1080 OLED or something at the front. It's probably going to have this nice, quirky, nothing OS with a couple new features in there. Maybe some AI stuff, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It doesn't seem like they lean into it that much. They have a new AI thing, yeah. They haven't leaned super super in like Samsung, but they do have maybe like mine space or a couple things like that. I expect that to happen again. Essential space. And then, oh yeah, that. And then, yeah, maybe a couple of, I mean, average speakers probably, probably some fun. Vibration motor stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Decent, yeah, I don't think anything else too crazy. Yeah, they do have that, like, instant app thing now where you can describe the app you want, and it kind of makes it for you. Whoa, right? They have that in the song. Didn't they do that? What? I do not remember that, but the nothing lineup couldn't be more confusing in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I'm looking at, like, their lineup right? now and the 3a, the 3A Pro and the 3A light are three completely different phones. None of them just look like an offshoot of one of them. Like if we're talking about how Samsung, you know, the Ultra Plus and regular all look exactly the same, this is the exact opposite of this. These are three completely different phones. Yeah, that's true. Fairly recently they released the essential apps, which is where you can describe an app or
Starting point is 00:39:22 widget and it will make it for you. Apparently it's pretty limited right now and you can have up to six of that. but I know that some people had played with it and it was like semi useful for extremely basic things but for anything you know more complicated it's going to be a few years down the line didn't I was going to say I could see that making any app in their little dot matrix thing because it'd be the easiest thing possible but didn't they ditch the dot matrix uh like whole design vibe from the three I just thought like nothing in general is not doing the like I think you're doing dot matrix anymore I thought they're
Starting point is 00:39:58 we're still doing that in the software. Like their fonts still have dots and boot animations and random things still have dots in there. Yeah. Is this right? They changed the logo? There's a cool essential apps store you can go to now with the essential apps that people have made where you can try different ones. It is kind of interesting and fun and cool. I think once this gets better and builds out, it'll be more interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:20 A lot of dots. They'll probably have that, a lot of dots. A lot of dots. They'll probably have that on this phone, I'm sure. Gotcha. They have a five-second rule one. So I guess you have to start it once you drop something. It tells you whether or not you can eat it or not.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Wait, get your phone. Don't pick it up off the floor. Don't pick it up off the floor. Start the timer on your phone. But then it's been like 10 seconds by the time you do that. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, it's pretty simple. Unfortunately, today is Wednesday. We're recording on a Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And tomorrow morning is the time at which everything about this is revealed. No, no. Isn't it next? Next week, March 4th. The day after that. I'm so wrong. I actually think they're doing this because they saw. oh, we're a day after Apple stuff and a week after Samsung stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Let's get something in before Samsung stuff. Nothing mug Samsung. Oh, no, but they always do this long drip. Yeah, new feature, a new spec. They'll next tomorrow they'll tell us the processor, and then the next day they'll tell us what the camera specs are, and then the next day they'll tell us the battery size, and then the next day they'll tell us the materials,
Starting point is 00:41:21 and then they just keep going. This is one of the best pieces of content I've seen nothing put out. I thought this was informative. Yeah. I love. The video is great. I learned what a tetrapism periscope lens was. I did it the presenters killed it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 The presenters did really well. I loved the shot at a pink phone just being desaturated red. It's true. Yeah, there's some funny stuff. And the pink, I think we opened this up with the pink and I didn't talk about it. The pink looks fantastic. It's so good. I want to wait to see it in person.
Starting point is 00:41:50 That's true. Because I have seen pictures and video of it and it looks amazing. But that always like, it comes out the box and you're like, oh, so that's what it looks like. Yeah, exactly. So I'm waiting. But I am excited for it. It does look gorgeous. Yeah, I have to see it in person.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Nothing's mostly design, right? We saw the majority of what we care about of this phone. Just need a price tag now. That's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The last thing we'll probably find out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:13 It has Chee 2. No. Absolutely nothing. You think this transparent phone has Chee 2? Yeah, you'd see those coils. Okay. Another quick story that popped up yesterday, which is quite interesting. Apparently, later this year, there's going to be a touchscreen OLED MacBook Pro with a dynamic island and redesigned macOS controls.
Starting point is 00:42:35 So crazy enough, in one week, Apple is rumored to release the M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook Pros, which are really nothing more than just spec upgrades to the current generation of laptops. Yes. But reportedly near the end of the year, probably around late October, November, which is when they usually do this kind of stuff, they're going to release this whole new generation. of MacBook Pros with M6 Max and M6 Pro. Yeah, it's a big deal because they're going to be getting rid of this notch, I guess, that you could say, that in the current design of MacBook Pros, they're going to be having the dynamic island similar to the iPhone. What that says about whether the iPhone is going to have dynamic island for another few years, as opposed to just making it transparent, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:43:20 But apparently, when you touch different aspects of MacOS, it is going to expand to be more touch-friendly. So it'll be able to be used with both a keyboard and your hands, kind of like whenever you want, and it will change a little bit for that reason. MacOS has been sort of being slowly restructured to be more like iOS and iPadOS in general. They look very similar right now anyway. So I think the main things Apple is going to really have to kind of focus on are making sure that it doesn't wobble every time you tap it. and then maybe also making the screen a little more fingerprint resistant. Quinn at Snazzy Labs
Starting point is 00:43:57 put out a pretty banger video this morning about maybe why they're doing all of this stuff and he was talking about like the RAM shortage and everything like that and they're keeping the prices the same for a lot of these things. So he was estimating that the reason they're launching a M5 Pro and an M5 Max
Starting point is 00:44:13 and the M6 Pro and M6 Max in the same year is so they can create huge product line differentiations where they still sell the M5 M5 Pro and M5 Macs computers, but then the M6 Pro M6 Macs are way more expensive because they have a way better display, touchscreen, and they're more powerful. So that would be one reason to release two lines of laptops in one year. I see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. And I might just be one of those people that kind of is along for the ride for the better specs and better display, even though I don't want a touchscreen. And I don't wonder what that does the rest of the MacOS experience. Hopefully not too much. I'm kind of, because like Windows right now you can either get a touchscreen or not touchscreen computer and Windows is the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It sounds like you're saying there's maybe going to be some differences to the touchscreen version of a Mac OS potentially. Well, the rumor is that it'll be about the same, but then when you go to touch it, it will sort of like reformat itself on the fly to be more touch. Okay, so if I never touch the screen, it would just behave exactly the same maybe as a regular. Maybe a slight redesign.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I'm sure we're going to see more of this at WWDC. in June. Yeah. So I'm on, so I've said for years, I've never really wanted a touchscreen on my laptop. I've had laptops with a touchscreen. I rarely ever touch the screen. Anytime there is the ability to touch the screen,
Starting point is 00:45:34 I'm annoyed by how much it wobbles and how many fingerprints stay on the screen, and I wish I never touched the screen. So, I don't know, where are you guys on touchscreen on the laptop? I'm sort of in between. I mean, now that we have these enormous track pads, it's less of a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I don't know if you guys remember, but laptop track pads used to be really small and really annoying to use. And so now that they're that much bigger, I really do think that they should have just added Apple Pencil support to the track pad and that would have solved a lot of problems. I will say in Photoshop,
Starting point is 00:46:05 it's really nice to be able to pan and zoom with your fingers and I used that on my Surface Book 2 back in the day when I had that a lot. But besides that, I don't need it. I'm not really sure why they're doing it. Maybe it's just because OLEDs at this point are cheap enough to be able to make them touch capacitive? Yeah, I don't know. David, it's such a good point.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Like all the cool parts of the touchscreen experience, which are gestures. You can do on the track pad. It's built in. Yeah. On the track pad. Also, who is it for? Like, I'll be, like, no one, if you're buying a MacBook Pro as you're, like, cuddle up and watch some Netflix on the couch computer, like, dude, chill out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:49 And then it's like... It's iPad. Yeah, exactly. So if you're buying a MacBook Pro, you're intending to do something professional with it, I would assume. You don't have to only do professional things with it, though. If you're spending that much money, it still should be able to function as your curl up and watch a movie.
Starting point is 00:47:03 MacBook. It is going to be thinner too, apparently, which scares me. Have you all ever sat on the couch like this? Hold on. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's go. Like this. So, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Do you know how hard, like, knees up, you know, on the couch? Andrew's feet are on the chair, knees up, computer wedged in between, screen at an obtuse angle. Look how easy it is to scroll like this? Oh, true. Oh, because your hands up there. And then my, you know how hard it is a scroll like this? That's crazy. I never, true.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I just got proven wrong. Y'all just need some more comfy position. No, no, it's because my computer spends probably like 80% of its on time in clamshell mode, like in a dock. The other 20% are between my knees and my chest just like that. That's true. If you're reading. Yeah, being able to just kind of like flick with your thumb. I love potting like this.
Starting point is 00:47:54 My thumb's sometimes right here and I'm just like scrolling on that. I know I can scroll too. Listen, I do it on both. But when I used my surface for a long time and I got really used to just occasionally like doing this scrolling or like, yeah. And then I come back and not have it. And I'm like, oh my God, I do that way more than I thought. Yeah. Scrolling is not a big deal if the main place you use a laptop is your desk.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I think every time I'm on the couch, when I'm on an airplane, when I'm in the backseat of a car, scrolling like that in a touchscreen is so much nicer. Yeah. And you don't have to use it. It's, yeah, it's option. If I see an on-screen keyboard pop up in my Mac OS experience, I swear. That's, yeah. I'm doing something terrible. That's where I draw the line.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, I don't know. I think Apple needs to release some sort of display coding that stops fingerprints. Yeah, fingerprints are going to. It drives me insane. We should come out with like a special finger. Like what did Quinn do? He has like a cloth. He's like the polishing cloth.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He just launched it. Like XXL or something. It's like the bigger version. Yeah. And it's like the same. Polishing cloth market's about to go crazy. Yeah. Oh, true.
Starting point is 00:49:00 About to go crazy. Oh, that's smart of him. That's smart of him. Think about it. Corner the market early. So when everyone's touching their computer screens. Yeah. You know where to clean it.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. I will say touchscreen with the kid is awful. because I'll just be like... They don't clean their fingers. Well, no, no, it's not even that. It's just like every time I have my computer up and Lane runs over and she wants to play with it. And it's easy enough to defend the keyboard with one arm.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But then it's just... And all my windows are all over the place now. Lord knows where. And I'm just like, oh, no. So it happens to Claire more often because she's using a Lenovo. But yeah, it screws that computer up all the time. When I was teaching,
Starting point is 00:49:39 what happened to me all the time where a student would be like, can you help me like figure out this Ableton thing? and I'd sit down and be like oh you just click right here what have I done yeah
Starting point is 00:49:52 so I guess we'll see how expensive that ends up being I mean you got me wondering David now do you think that they'll do gestures on the screen because they already have them all like being able to I mean yeah yeah like an iPad yeah like an iPad like on the iPad you can like take all of your fingers
Starting point is 00:50:09 swipe across and it move it to the next app but not like the gestures from the track iPad gestures. They're strikingly similar. Yeah, they are quite similar. All fingers does, yeah, it's very similar. Can you tell he has a Galaxy tab? It's funny. So I have an iPad and a MacBook Pro, and I very distinctly use them differently for different things, and I just feel like a touchscreen laptop would blur that line. This has always been the argument. Like, why would you need both? I guess it's for people who don't have both. It's for people who don't have an iPad and don't want to buy two things. Now you have one thing that does both. I wonder how much of this is just that the technology
Starting point is 00:50:42 is so much cheaper now. That's what I keep wondering. Might as well. You know. It's been true for a while. It's just there's been such a philosophical argument against a touchscreen Macbook. Yeah. For forever.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Well, there was that famous like Steve Jobs keynote where he says that your arm's going to turn into a gorilla arm if you do that and you're going to like break your screen or something. He said a lot of things that they've gone back on though before. Yeah. He said style. Who wants a stylus? Ugh. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:51:06 He hates stylists. That 10 perfectly good stylists is right here. To be fair, I think that was for phones mostly. Introducing Apple Pencil. Yeah. I guess it's never to the eyes. Honestly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:16 We'll see how this goes. Yeah. So that's a rumor mill thing. We all know, well, we all expect a whole bunch of new laptops and a bunch of other stuff that I talked about last week. Next week. Yeah, we're going to get that cheap MacBook next week. So if you haven't already subscribed away for them. Promise?
Starting point is 00:51:29 Get subscribed. My uncle said that it is. We'll get all that info very soon for you. Yeah, okay. Quinn's, it's called, sorry, going back to that, Cloth Pro Max. He really went all out. So like packaging itself really feels like an Apple product. It also has a compatibility list.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That's incredible. That has a bunch of iPhones stuff and then says there's also dusty Nintendo Switch. Nice. Old cinema display. CRT TV. Nice. This is awesome. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:52:01 All right. Well, we're going to wrap it up with a couple more stories after the break. But before that, we have some more questions to ask us and potentially not get any points. like usual. T for trivia. Oh, I thought you were going to say time out. That's what I think. Trivia.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Trivia. That's what that means. Samsung. The one. The only. They have a lot of products. Oh, boy. Is it a tractor again? A lot.
Starting point is 00:52:29 No, this question is about two Samsung products that we know and love, specifically the Galaxy Buds and the Galaxy Z-fold. These are both staples. of the Samsung lineup. However, which one came out first? And I'm talking original buds or original fold. Interesting. Would we call them staples?
Starting point is 00:52:55 They're both products that Samsung sells. Staples. The buds are, I think, Buds can buy it in a staple. The fold is starting to get there. It's a stapler. It's out there. The fold we're on the Z-fold 7,
Starting point is 00:53:09 and we're only on the buds 4. but that doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It could be... That doesn't mean nothing. Yeah, we could have had many, many years. We didn't even talk about the buds. Yeah, by the way, it was new buds.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I kind of like them. We didn't talk about the design. I wrote this question as soon as we were going to talk about the buds. We didn't talk about that. The buds are sweet. I have them actually. I'm going to start testing them more. They look like, I mean, they all kind of look like AirPods from the front, but from the back, they
Starting point is 00:53:30 redesigned them. They have new drivers. They have new features. The brush metal. The brush metal, the flat back. It looks pretty sweet. It looks like if an AirPods had the clip of a pen glued to the end of it. for a flat thing when I'm like controlling like a squeeze,
Starting point is 00:53:44 like a round like barrel thing is, it's kind of annoying actually to squeeze. Well, that's why they like chamfered it on the side. Yeah, but like a fully flat thing. I like that. I like that better. That's just me. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah, we'll be testing those as well. Anyway, okay, yeah. So trivia will be at the end. Answers like at the, uh, answers that be right back. The usual at the end. All right, welcome back. We got to talk about weather a little bit more. I was waiting for someone to say the dad joke.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Whether or not. I couldn't think of one fast enough. Whether or not. Mostly because, okay, so I've talked about weather in the past on this podcast, mostly because I think a couple weeks ago I was comparing tech YouTube to weather YouTube, and I'm sticking by that. There are so many parallels between the two, especially because we just had another blizzard. I don't know if you guys are, did the weather stuff hit your feeds at all?
Starting point is 00:54:37 You know, definitely hit my block. I'm the only one? My feed's been filled with other garbage. You didn't go to YouTube.com during the Great Blizzard of 2026? The one two weeks ago or the one? The one like three days ago? Uh, I did not. Or I did not have it.
Starting point is 00:54:52 My feed was full of all the YouTubers were live at the same time. Open it up camera feeds. Showing the live precipitation totals in different places. Were they interviewing people on the streets? Some of them. Yeah, one of them, he had a feed of, Ryan Hall had a guy who was like, he had a feed of someone who was just walking through New York City during the blizzard. Just walking around in different stuff. It was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Cool. Um, I like the blizzard is fun. Yeah, anyway. Wait, which Ryan Hall are you talking about? Ryan Hall, y'all? I can't even Google. other YouTuber. Ryan Hall, y'all.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I see. Got it. That's a great name. That's his name. That's the YouTube name. So shout out to Ryan Hall. He's got a whole thing. But a lot of people, when I talked about weather apps on social media, like to bring up that the founders of Dark Sky actually recently came out with a new app called Acme Weather.
Starting point is 00:55:37 And I just want to point out, they emailed me right before it went live. And they were like, hey, Marquez, this is, I'm one of the founders of Dark Sky. And we actually got acquired by Apple. And I left Apple. And we started this new thing. and here's a link to the test flight and I was like, this could be the greatest fishing email of all time.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Because it's so specific to what I would insta-click. I clicked it immediately downloaded it without even checking. Clicked it so fast. You mean your open-clod bot? Yeah. On your behalf. Yeah, man. I immediately downloaded it.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So it's called Acme Weather. And it is a similar in a few ways in some features, but it also has some new aesthetics to it. But it is a new weather app. It's iOS only right now. It's paid. Many of the good weather apps are paid. I'm just going to get it out the way ahead of time just so you know.
Starting point is 00:56:27 But it is pretty good, I would say. And I've been playing it with it for the last couple of days. I'm just upset that this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Really? That you had access to this before. It's funny. Yeah, we didn't. I dropped this in slack.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Nobody. No, I kind of assumed that we'd all seen the headlines. Yeah. And just we're going to try it. Well, sure. I can't try it because it's iPhone only. Yeah, that's fair. That is fair.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Well, we'll toss a screenshot or two in the pod for those of you who haven't seen what it looks like yet, but it kind of almost looks like, okay, I put a Venn diagram on Twitter of like there's the pretty weather apps and then there's the accurate weather apps. Yeah. The pretty ones like the default Google weather app are almost always not super accurate. and then the ones that have like their own data and that are like the weather.com and acu other ones are really good information but are like horrible apps and a lot of people at that point pointed out that carrot weather which is the one that i use is kind of right in the middle because you choose what source you have and it looks really good acme weather i think also looks like kind of like the google weather app it's it's pretty good looking but it has a dark sky timeline underneath and it has a pretty good
Starting point is 00:57:45 radar feature, or map feature, which lets you look at radar, but also things like current temperature, wind maps, and accumulation totals for predict storms. So just... Can't predict that. I was just looking at this upcoming storm we're expecting in the next couple of days. And, yeah, we're supposed to get some more... Wait, when? This weekend.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Sunday, Monday. We... So I never check weather. It's one of my many faults. I always learned about upcoming storms in this room when we sit down. And Marquez is like, are you ready for this storm? And I'm like, what are you talking about? I think we need to enact an app time limit on weather apps on Marquez's phone because it's getting to be a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:29 This weekend, I was like, Sunday, I'm like, I really hope it doesn't snow that much. Oh, hey, everyone. And it's like, it's pretty warm outside. There's probably not going to be any weather. He's like, wait until the low pressure system comes in. I was like, eat it, Marquez. Don't worry. It can't.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It will get. get worse. That's my bad. It was because it was like during the day and you guys were all like, there's not that much snow. I was like, don't we all know it's a nighttime storm? Nobody knew. So I just sprinkled some information. Google it as best as possible. Unrelated but related. Your Venn diagram that you posted. Yeah. I was curious. How did you make that? I googled Venn diagram creator and I opened a Canva template and I made it in Canva. No. I was convinced you were going to say Final Cut Pro, but that's actually probably
Starting point is 00:59:11 Films two circles on his red. It should have been faster if I, it would have been faster if I didn't. Acmey says that it is focused on hyperlocal, hyperaccurate forecasting combined with transparency about forecast uncertainty, which is nice. So, so hyperlocal weather is neat because kind of like Ways is crowdsourced where if you, if something happens and someone reports it in the app, if it has enough users, that's like really useful information. So some truck dropped something on the road and you are literally 60 seconds behind that truck. You'll get a notification that says object on road ahead because somebody reported it. Similar thing with weather.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So you'll literally, like, Dark Sky did this really well. You'd get a notification that says, like, rain starting in three minutes. And three minutes later, the front would pass and it would start raining. And it feels like kind of this magic moment. Maybe I'm just a little into weather or whatever, but, like, I thought that was pretty cool
Starting point is 01:00:04 that they're also bringing that feature. So they have a report feature. where you can report things like, yeah, it just started raining. Like a bomb cyclone. Well, it would probably be like a smaller thing, like frost or ice or whatever. Community, what's happening right now?
Starting point is 01:00:20 You hit lightning and then everybody knows there's lightning nearby. You create lightning. I kind of assume that multiple people will need to report it so that it's not like one person's saying. I don't know how many people are reporting things. Similar to ways...
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's just Marquez is the number one on the leaderboards right now. I mean, I do use the ways reports. I would say that it would be awesome if a lot of people use this app and reported it and it got good because hyperlocal weather is sweet. Yeah. It says it has an alternative possible
Starting point is 01:00:48 futures feature because that they don't want to assume that the weather is going to be perfectly accurate every time. So it shows, it shows like possible different variations. It's got the black line, which is what they think is going to happen. And it's got these gray lines, which is what might happen. Multiverse confirmed.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. Yeah, they're just plugged into all the different versions of Carney, New Jersey. I just want to throw it out there. Their logo is really bad. And I would love if somebody redid it. It's like the umbrella from McNamee. I thought it's cute.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It's fine. That blue gradient, it looks bad. What? Well, it's an umbrella. Wait, what? The umbrellas, I don't know. Oh, is the icon different than the... It's like the Wiley Coyoteo. The blue... Yeah, it's like a blue gradient on the... Yeah. We were looking at just like the black and white look on the website. Oh, no. It's not my favorite. I will say that. It's not great. Definitely my
Starting point is 01:01:41 favorite. But it's cool. Yeah. It kind of looks like if Claude and the New York Times made an app together because Andrew said it was a New York Times looking app and it has like the Claude color palette. Everyone needs to stop using the Chabani font. I don't know what font it is. But like look up Chobani yogurt like the font. Knock it off. New York Times loves Chabani. I don't know what kind of see what you mean. It's everywhere. It's like all the millennial-ass DTC companies.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I think it's the off-white background that makes it feel. Like the Shabani packaging. All right. Well, just make our own weather station so we can just have hyper local weather
Starting point is 01:02:20 for this video. That's actually a thing you can do. So wait, that was a question I kind of have. That's what I'm saying. I can't tell if this is a real thing or I'm remembering it incorrectly. So maybe one of you heard of it
Starting point is 01:02:30 or an audience member has, but I swear my cousin told me about this thing that he bought that he puts up his garage and a lot of people in the area have them and are connected together. That's what I'm saying. It's like wind and barometer and stuff and it takes down what's happening outside. This is a whole rabbit hole in the weather.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Do you have this? No, but. How do you not have this? Weather boy? I should. I should. I should just put one up. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I, and you have a weather app or like even like some people have like a dedicated display where it's like you can plug into the data or you can plug into the data from your own weather station. So instead of getting a local report from the Newark weather station about like what pressure and temperature and all that are, you'll take it from your actual weather station. So you'll get your actual location. We can have MQBHT-BHT weather. For every bit of data you upload to the weather network, it mines part of the hash of a
Starting point is 01:03:18 cryptocurrency. Weather coin? Weather coin. Well, no, then it would actually have some utility. Let's do one. Yeah, we should. How much are they? What do I search?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Andrew, remember when I was like, I need to find this weather thing? Sort of similar. You know, it is that. It's just a thing you put on your roof and then it tells you the weather. I thought yours was just the display. I didn't realize it was the roof. You can only get the display with the roof thing. You cannot get a display that just 3Gs or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I mean, now you can now that terminal exists. Okay. But, right. Yeah, I don't know. My cousin seemed, everyone I've ever heard talking about this seems super powerful. No, if you go on Amazon and just type in weather station, they're made by, they're like 30 bucks and everybody makes them. And I'm sure they're all, I think it's dumb. Tell us a good.
Starting point is 01:04:05 one. I want one. It's just like, what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are? I need to know what it's going to be. I can go outside. Can you link up with other people? And then if you get enough people in a localized region. How does that tell you what it's going to be? Because then when it's coming from the west, my homies to the west are speeding the
Starting point is 01:04:27 information. My weather homies. So here's the other thing about weather is there's all these different models that are aggregated and computed by different computers and regions or whatever. Right. So those are based on the weather stations that they use. So then if you have your own weather station that's maybe a little like, like Newark is close by, but we're 50 miles away from Newark or something, then you can adjust yours based on how far
Starting point is 01:04:51 you are from the weather station that you're getting your information from. It's kind of interesting. I think you should buy me one of these because I'm on the west part of New Jersey and you're on the east part of New Jersey. So it's only beneficial for you if you get me one. New Jersey is a pencil-ass state. You're like three minutes away from each other. Dude, no, but the coast thing is...
Starting point is 01:05:12 Distance from the coast is crazy. You got half as much snow as we did. I know. Usually I get more snow than you guys, dude. Both times this time, I've gotten significantly. This was a coastal storm that dropped 22 inches here and eight inches there. Like, that's because the weather stations. You know, I know neither of you're in the dating world right now,
Starting point is 01:05:32 but you would be killing it talking about... weather on your dates, but you'd be like, that would not... Oh, let me tell you. This would not be a dull conversation. We got to move on, guys. This is insane. I feel like I just want to shout out weather committee.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I appreciate it. Yeah. Just saying, we could start one, Marquez. I'm not against it. I'm going to start Googling weather stations. I'll use the company card. All right. Let's sum up this story. will alternate words okay individual words yeah okay all right here we go ready yeah do I start yeah you can start okay discord is not gonna scan your face or other
Starting point is 01:06:20 children's faces yeah until later late yeah yeah almost good news if you guys are well yeah If you guys remember our Super Bowl episode, technically true, it was after the Super Bowl. Discord gotten a lot of heat because they decided that they were going to do age verification via scanning your face if you were a child. If their algorithms decided that you're probably a kid using various different factors, one of the ways they were going to verify that you were not a kid actually was to scan your face. They got a ton of pushback on that. A lot of people went back to the good old team speak back from. you know, the 1900s.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And they said, oopsie, that was a bad idea. So they are now delaying the age verification functionality until the second half of 2026. Before it rolls out verification, it's going to add more ways to verify, like adding a credit card to your account
Starting point is 01:07:20 because that basically just tells you them how old you are, et cetera. It will also include documentation for every verification vendor that they've used. It will add a spoiler channels option and publish a technical blog explaining how all of their age verification systems work. So they are trying really hard to win back the trust of people of the kids and the adults
Starting point is 01:07:41 because nobody wants their face faces scanned, especially since they had like a data breach before this in which everyone's data was like leaked and it was not good. So first nightmare. Now we can do trivia. Trivia, dude. Quick update on the score. I'll keep it. Now you know what we deal with people.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Marquez with 14. Andrew with 17. David with 16. That's the same as last. Same as the past four episodes. In the week before. Can you guys please let me update the graphic this week? All right.
Starting point is 01:08:21 So, were you guys paying attention? Towards the end of the live event, they shut off an expert raw mode that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and fission stuff. when you're swimming or diving in the ocean. What is it called? Realistically, it's for when you're at the aquarium.
Starting point is 01:08:39 That's mostly. Yeah, that's mostly. Or the one time you go snorkeling and you're like, isn't this thing waterproof? And then it's sea salt. And then you break your phone. Was this water just the example they used? It's not specifically for water.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I think it is for water. It's a mode for being underwater. Yeah. It's not, well, things that are underwater. So like a fish tank. It'll like pump up the viability. cyber and see and stuff. All right, flip them and read.
Starting point is 01:09:04 What do you got? We all combined her. Okay. Marquez, what did you say? I wrote Ocean Pro. Wait, hold up. We only wrote three. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:09:15 We have the entire combinatoric of both of these words. Just everyone say what they wrote. One at a time, please. Oh, I don't know at the same time. I'll go first. I wrote Ocean Pro. Dang it. I wrote Pro mode.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I wrote Ocean Mode. Correct. Oh, Ocean mode it is. Ocean mode. Ocean mode by one. Oh, that's time for the lead. Yeah. All right, well, this next one, I was paying attention.
Starting point is 01:09:43 50-50 shot. Okay. Fitty, fitty. Unless you somehow get it wrong. That's part of the 50-50. Yeah, that's one of the 50s, isn't it? That's not how that works. Big Macs.
Starting point is 01:09:59 That's why we're podcasters. and not not politicians never thought of it like that it turns out I've just bodied every 50 50 shot I've ever had I didn't know losing it was an option
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh shoot I like that guy's what came first The Samsung Galaxy Z fold Or the Gam The Gamong sung salicy Or the Samsung Galaxy Buds
Starting point is 01:10:25 There's no letter with the buds Right It's not like the P Buds. Because they have the number after. Galaxy Bud's number. There's a galaxy, but there's numbers after the fold two, and there's a letter there. It's the Z fold
Starting point is 01:10:38 five. That's just because they have so many phones. They got to separate them with letters. Oh, wait, I thought the buds did have a number. No, they do have a number. They don't have a letter. It's not like the Samsung Galaxy J buds. Oh. But imagine?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Well, it's actually the Samsung B, Uds. Wow. All right. Guys, who would like to read their answer? Did you guys all write the same thing? No. Who has the different thing?
Starting point is 01:11:07 It would be really sad. I really like the font that you used, Marks. Thank you. I don't know why your writing looks different in that, but I'd buy that as a font. Impact font. So I said the buds came first. I'm so sorry, Marquez.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I know the reason. I'm so sorry. You can say the reason. It's because they didn't used to be called the Galaxy Buds. That was my guess also. Yeah. Wait, what? The Samsung earbuds used to be called like something else.
Starting point is 01:11:33 What did they used to be called? Do you remember Adam? You were the sound guy. Yeah, I do not remember. They were called something else. I picked this because it felt like the budges the obvious answer. I know the watches used to be called gear. Gear, Galaxy Gear Live or something.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Oh, is that it? Yeah, earbuds. Galaxy Gear Buds. As far as I'm aware, they've always been Galaxy Buds. Oh, it's the beginning. Gear icon X. Oh, yes. that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. The Icon X. The fold came out on February 20th, 2019. I remember that. The Galaxy Buds came out on March 8th, 2019. Oh. But the Galaxy Gear icon X. Well, that wasn't what I was asking about.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah. It's fine. I didn't want any points anyway. Worked out for you then. Yeah. Nailed it. The race is on. I feel like we need to do a trivia extravaganza soon.
Starting point is 01:12:28 We really do. The points aren't that high, though. It's just been a long time. Yeah, because your questions are really, really hard. Are they? Yes. We never get points anymore. Honestly, the fact that Marquez got the Excavator one.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Yeah, that was crazy. Probably we should have just ended this. My only thing. I think he deserved to win. That's true, yeah. I think that's my only point. At this point, we've written hundreds of trivia questions. Like, I'm doing the best I can.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Anyway, yeah, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Like I said, get subscribed because you already know that next week. We've got to talk about all the stuff that gets announced then. Of course, the reviews are coming in the stuff that came out this week. hype us because somehow you still can. YouTube definitely forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:13:04 They apparently did not hard code that. Yeah, yeah, you can just hype channels with over 500. They were like, this isn't going to work at all. No one under 500 is getting over 500. Hey, we did it. And we're still hyping ourselves. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:15 So yeah, hype. See on the hype train. See next week. See you later. Wait, form is produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Rovin and partner with Vox Media Podcast Network and our show after music was created by Vainzil. Bingo.
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