Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Samsung Galaxy Unpacked: No Peeking!
Episode Date: February 27, 2026This week, it's all about the Samsung Galaxy S26 lineup! Until it isn't. After Marques, Andrew, and David discuss everything about the new phones, they dig into the Nothing 4a teaser video and new Mac...Book rumors. Then, Marques gives his weekly winter weather update (along with a new app suggestion). Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia where people actually get points this time! Enjoy. Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Links: MKBHD - S26 Impressions video Becca Farsace - S26 short Snazzy Labs - MacBook Pro video Snazzy Labs - Cloth Pro Max Music provided by: Epidemic Sound This episode brought to you by: Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/waveform Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome back to another episode of the Wayform podcast.
We're a host.
I'm Marquez.
I'm Andrew.
And I'm David.
It is Friday again, just so you know.
So those of you who watched the last episode, if you didn't, it wasn't a Friday.
But now we're back to our regularly scheduled programming.
I know how everyone else feels because it's actually Wednesday here and you just said it's Friday.
So for us, that's very confusing.
Right. Yeah, this is just to lock us back in, so people listening know what day it's coming out.
The dishes we're going to get done anyway.
Today's episode, we've got Samsung Galaxy S-26 official unveil.
We've got nothing phone 4A partial official unveil, and we've got some weather talk.
But first, there was a blizzard.
Yeah, but first, we're doing South by Southwest again.
It's happening again.
So for those of you who don't know, or if you're new here last year, we did our first ever
live waveform podcast in front of a in-person studio audience.
We did it at South by Southwest in Austin, Texas in the spring, and it was a lot of fun,
and we got invited back to do it again, and we're going to do it again.
So if those of you who were like on the fence about going to Southby, or if you're already going to be there,
we'll see you there.
We'll try to put the official, do we know the time slot?
10 a.m. Friday, March 13th, 10 a.m. Vox stage.
We're doing this on a Friday of 13th.
Yeah, yeah.
There's two Friday the 13th.
in a row. There's one in February and March. That's good luck, right? Yeah, for us. Oh, yeah,
double negative. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so the second Friday of the 13th in row, we're going to be
on stage at 10 a.m. in Texas, uh, on the stage doing podcast things. Come say hi. Yeah. Ellis will
run up and down the aisles again, and it will be beautiful. And I'll trip up the stage. If there's one thing
I know to be true, it is that Ellis will be running up and down the aisles. That's right.
It was genuinely really fun last time. It was awesome. We had a Q&A section. We had some more engaging
back and forth with people in the audience.
It was fun, so we're going to do some of that again.
Yeah, it'll be fun.
It'll be fun.
All right.
We have a new, did they even test this?
I hear it's Adam's turn.
It's my turn.
Okay, finally.
I have been waiting for this moment.
Wow.
So, on WhatsApp, I use, I have a group chat with my friends, and we send each other
mainly voice messages, because we have, like, long updates.
So every once in a while, you'll just see, like, a 10-minute message.
And it's like, all right, like, next time I'm commuting home.
or on the subway and I have like 10 minutes.
I'll just, you know, just listen to this short little podcast.
Wow.
So I'll press play and then it'll just like pause randomly when I put the phone back in my pocket.
So for the longest time, I have to press play on the voice message and make sure that it's still on the message before I put the screen to sleep.
And then I can put the phone in my pocket.
And I thought this was a pixel or an Android bug.
Turns out I think it's just a pixel bug
because the other day I was using the S-25 edge
I borrowed from the office just to play around
and I was leaving a voice or listening to a voice message as usual
and fully expecting to have to do this weird thing
where I put the screen to sleep
before I put in my pocket because the proximity sensor
messes up what it thinks is happening and everything
and it just worked perfectly on the S-25 edge.
So I think this is a pixel issue specifically
where...
Like flip to hush?
Yeah, like the proximity sensor
just gets messed up
and even if I'm wearing headphones
it'll just like stop playing
or it'll start playing through
like the earpiece of the phone
instead of like...
Oh.
It's very, very annoying.
It's very weird.
So it doesn't just stop.
It just plays through another source.
It plays through another source.
Like it thinks that...
What?
That's weird than just weird.
That's weird.
Like I'll press play,
put the phone on my pocket
and instead of playing through my headphones
like it normally just was
it'll start coming out of the ear
piece on the phone.
Hmm.
Very weird.
So I'm just wondering if they even tested this.
Wow, they probably didn't test it on a pixel.
Yeah, WhatsApp.
These messages on the pixel.
Yeah, I don't know whose fault this is.
Pixel, Android, WhatsApp.
There's many people at play.
I'm happy to blame meta.
Yeah.
I'm happy to blame it.
That's true.
I'm always happy to play that.
Yeah, could be meta's fault.
Yeah.
I was like deep in the forums and everyone was like, this is the only hack that works,
and this has been happening for months.
Wow.
Damn.
But like leave it on the screen where the message is playing.
Put the screen to sleep.
And then when you put in your pocket, the proximity sensor won't mess up.
What do you think most people blame in a scenario like this?
The app maker.
The app maker, right?
Yeah, probably the app maker.
I think that's true.
So, like, the app maker kind of has to fix the issues,
even if it's potentially from a different phone because they're going to be the ones.
Yeah.
It's like a settings issue or like a feature of the phone.
And people are smart enough to blame the phone maker.
But if it's just an app maker, that's easy to just be like, fix your app.
Yeah.
What's app with that?
Hmm. Crazy.
All right.
Has that Slack issue, fix it.
itself yet. WhatsApp is a meta product. I thought you were just randomly bringing it. It was like
same here, bro. I mean, for every other reason as well, but yeah, it's a meta product. So now we have
two on the board. The Slack thing is not fixed by soon. Uh, no. I also, people said they liked
the segment. No one said they had the same issue in Slack. So I'm really wondering if it's,
it feels like just you. Well, I have, I pulled up and also had the same thing. Yeah. Well, remember last
time I did this and I was like, oh, I have this thing that unlocks my front door and it's crazy
that they don't have a widget, and then the next week, they were like, David, we made you a widget,
and now it's a feature. And I'm like, well, I can't complain anymore, I guess. I don't have anything
else. There was one person who commented, I'm starting my Slack internship this summer. This is the
first thing I'll bring up. Yes. Big summer project. Fixing that icon. Yeah. Sick. All right, well,
we did get a new Samsung Galaxy S26s. And for video viewers, you can see I'm holding the S26 Ultra.
You might not have been able to tell that it's an S-26 Ultra
because it looks exactly like an S-25 plus
But I promise is the Ultra
It's the new violet color
That's violet?
Yeah, it had like a two-word name
That feels blue to me.
Something violet.
Cobalt violet?
Yeah, that's what it is.
Cobalt violet.
One of the new...
What's shiny colors?
Violet.
You're turning violet.
Two colors now?
Yeah, cobalt violet.
Cobalt violet.
Anyway, yeah, so we know all the things now.
All the specs, all the features of S-26,
S-26 plus, and S-26 Ultra.
Quick story.
I didn't get to go to the event.
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
Here's the thing,
maybe a little inside baseball,
but for those of you who are also tech YouTubers,
you know about this.
So Samsung, when they're coming out
with a new phone, for example,
will first reach out to all of the tech media,
whoever it is, and go,
hey, we've got something to share with you.
We have a briefing slot for you,
and we have a content capture slot for you
in this nearby city.
and, you know, we kind of have read the rumors we've deduced.
We kind of figure out what it is and we'll go, oh, okay, yeah, this is going to be the S-25.
And we'll go, okay, we go on the briefing.
They'll explain all the features and specs and price and we can answer any questions.
And then we'll go to a content capture session.
So if you're a video creator or a social media creator, whatever it is, you have time to get hands-on and make your video.
And that's what you'll see all the YouTubers publish at embargo time or when the official announcement goes out, right?
they've had one in New York many times.
They've had one, I'm assuming, in California many times.
I think there's usually one in London somewhere many times,
so that creators from all over the world can just sort of fly to these local places.
And then lastly, they'll have Unpacked.
And then Unpacked is their big event where they'll do the whole unveiling for everyone else in public to see.
And they always ask us to go to Unpacked, but I don't know.
By the time I've made my video, there's nothing really more for me to see at Unpacked.
So I typically don't actually go to Unpacked.
impact. That also, that always hasn't been the case of the, like, briefing right before. And then
it's weird, the embargo coming out at the same time as the event. So our video is totally made by the
time the event comes. So it's like, what else is the event for? Yeah. Yeah. That always hasn't
been the case. But it has been lately. I've gone to unpack a few times and been like sitting in
the audience waiting for the event to start and published my video from the seat at the event,
which is like, that's, they just, they've done it all us like that like the same time. Uh,
So, but lately they've just been like, please come to unpack, please come to unpack.
But also here's all the stuff ahead of time, so maybe you don't have to go to unpacked.
This year, they're like, yeah, there's no content capture sessions anywhere.
You have to go to unpack to your content capture session.
I said, all right, I guess I'm going to unpack this year.
It's in California.
And then we get two feet of snow, and it shuts down two straight days of flights.
And I booked and rebooked and rebooked and rebooked and had two straight days of flights canceled,
and I just literally couldn't go.
Brandon did go because he flew out of a less snowy city
and he was actually able to get there.
So he shot a bunch of footage out there
while I got the footage back here.
I got my briefing still.
I got to combine all of my information and the footage.
And so I've seen the phones and I make the video
and the video still goes live at the usual time.
But yeah, that's sort of backfired
where Samsung finally got me to go to unpacked.
And then the blizzard was like, no,
it's not going to happen.
Can you tell the story of the phone arriving this morning?
Oh, yeah.
So then, you know, on Pact, you also are supposed to, you know, pick up the review device so I can make my review.
And since I'm not there, I said, Samson, can you ship it to the studio?
I said, sure, yeah, we'll ship it to the studio.
It'll arrive on Wednesday, which is today.
So I'm editing this video this morning of the, you know, Brandon's footage and putting this whole video together.
And I get like a knock on the door.
And the door slides open on the studio.
and there's a guy standing out of breath holding a huge pink bag in his hand like this is you and he's points at the bag and it's got a label on it and I'm like what I assume this is not for me he's got to have the wrong address but I go yeah can I like maybe help you find the right place and I look and sure enough it is our address it says MKBHD it says our sweet and everything and I go oh okay yeah no this is for me so I sign for it he goes sign write your name
And I signed it, wrote my name.
And then he dipped, and that was it.
And I opened the huge pink box, and there's a smaller EPS box inside.
I opened that box, and it's the Samsung Galaxy S-26.
Was he out of breath because it was, like, by 10 a.m.
He was out of breath because he was, like, a courier, like a local service courier.
So maybe he was, like, stress in trying to get it here on time or something.
Maybe he had a deadline, but he definitely was out of breath.
He was in shorts and a t-shirt and boots.
There's a lot of snow.
outside. It felt like
he ran here. He probably sprinted through
mounds of snow to get here on time.
I don't... Yeah. It makes outfit.
Also, I don't think you're understanding
how big the pink bag was that he came back.
It was like gigantic.
It was like four feet tall. Yeah.
It was like this huge zip around the middle
of it. So it just really didn't make any sense.
Yeah, it's outside. We can take a picture
and put it on the pot. It's gigantic. It made no sense.
I was like, this cannot possibly be
for me. Tim and I were getting water
in like the lobby and saw him walk in
She's like, what is going on?
And then we walk back and he's in the office talking to me.
So it's just for the phone and the buds?
Yep, just for the phone.
Just a phone.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But yeah, now we have it here.
So shout out to that guy because now we have the phone and we can talk about it in person.
And I want to issue my disappointment to Samsung.
Whoa.
Okay.
Is this for all the phones?
No, just for the ultra.
Oh, okay.
They've just slowly made the ultra look just more and more like the plus.
And, you know, I understand that when it was like really sharp edges,
Maybe that was like not the best for your pockets.
I get that.
But I feel like the more aggressive design was very much like,
it's ultra, it's the ultra.
The S-21 Ultra is the best designed of all of them.
I'm just going to put that out there.
So I'll just run through real quick so people know
what's new or different about this Ultra.
Because you're totally right,
and I have a lot of the same thoughts.
Yeah.
First of all, they slightly change the design.
It's a tiny bit thinner.
It's a tiny bit more rounded,
so it's a little bit less square.
It gets a little more rounded.
They updated the camera rings
to now also have this like plateau around them,
kind of like the rest of the S series lineup,
and they switched back from titanium to aluminum rails.
That's what everyone's doing.
Everyone's like, oh, it's bad thermal.
I don't think other phones have had that plateau.
The base phones, or sorry, not the base phones.
No, you're talking about the folds.
The folds have had this.
Yes, and now the whole lineup has this.
So now they all look the same, as David is saying.
And, yeah, they're like a couple new colors,
and there's still $1,300.
Still has the S-Pen, still has the bright screen on the front.
And the one big, interesting new feature is on the display, which is kind of insanely complicated.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they did this, but it's the privacy display feature, which is, okay, video viewers are going to see this in person.
You can clearly see, like, the viewing angles of the screen are pretty good normally.
But you've seen those privacy screen protectors people put on their phone sometimes where if you put it at an angle, it's pitch black.
Those are kind of annoying because they, like, ruin your screen usually,
and also you have to take it off if you get annoyed by it.
This is built into the phone.
You can turn on privacy display, and now, when I tilted off axis, it blacks out the phone.
And this works from vertical axis, horizontal axis.
It's very effective.
And not only is it very effective, but you can customize exactly how it works,
so you can have a blackout the whole display,
or you can have it only black out certain apps
you can choose those apps
or you can only have it black out
password fields and notifications if you want
like it's very specific to
Can you do the password fields?
I swear I remember them showing a thing for that
but I don't remember them showing it in the event.
So password fields it says pin pattern and password
that's just lock screen and settings
and secure folder.
Okay, so it's not in a bunch of other apps
but if you just black out your whole banking app
like that's probably yeah.
Yeah, you should do that.
So, yeah, that it seems to work incredibly well.
It only dims the display a little bit when I turn it on.
It's really good.
Yeah, it seems like they're doing it by directing the light only directly up out of the screen
instead of letting it kind of emit.
Almost like a pair of washers over each individual pixel.
Yeah, lenses.
That, like, goes higher to narrow the width of the light.
Yeah.
It's a cool idea.
Which is really cool.
I want to, like, see, you probably can't see it up close because it's so.
Think of that on every single pixel.
And that you can like turn it on and off.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, yeah, I guess so then they come back down all the way to the bottom so it doesn't
interrupt the width of the light emitting.
So it raises.
But like the little animation they showed was like, oh, there's just, everyone's got an animation
for everything, like the Fort Knox animations 800 times.
Like this means nothing.
But this I was watching.
I was like, oh, wait, that's really, really cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I wish I could see like the mechanical.
aspect of it seems to be hardware right it's hardware it's display innovation when you turn it on do you
feel like something moving inside like how does that even no so essentially samsung i thought you
want a kid joke samsung i was waiting to see the the how they explained it in the keynote because
my briefing didn't have a lot of technical information on how exactly they're achieving this but the way
they seem to describe it in the keynote is they have half of the pixels are regular wide emitting light pixels
and half of the pixels have this sort of a focusing hardware on them.
I don't know if it's hardware or lenses or whatever,
where they are very narrow emitting just forward.
And so when you've turned this feature on,
all of the wide emitting pixels turn off because it's an LED.
And you're just left with the narrow emitting pixels.
Oh, so it's not all pixels that have this like screen over it.
It's just the random.
It's half of them.
Got it.
And so if you have just those narrow emitting pixels on,
I assumed I would see a big hit-to-screen brightness.
And I'm sure maximum brightness is lower,
but it still looks totally fine when I look straight at it.
And, yeah, then you can customize, like, which pixels turn on and off.
So if you just have a notification come in,
you can just turn those narrow pixels on,
and I'll leave the rest as wide-emitting pixels.
Does that mean your resolution is worse when it's on?
Yes, yes.
I didn't think of it.
So half your pixels are off, so half your resolution is gone.
And all of them are on when the privacy protector is off.
Correct.
So it's using the narrow and the wide one.
normally. Yeah. Huh, that's really cool. I guess if you're somebody who really wants just privacy
on some things, then you don't really, no one cares if they have 4K Bank of America app open,
I guess, but, um, yeah. So you do lose, I wonder what the resolution is. Is just,
so the resolution is the same. It's still a 1440P display when it's maxed out. So yeah, it's
theoretically half, half your pixel density is gone. And I mean, I'm looking at it like really up
close because I maxed out the screen resolution right away and I turned it on. And yes, it does get
a little bit more pixelated from this angle is crazy because I saw you looking at it and then
when you turned it on it just went blacked out. That's hilarious. Perfect angle. Yeah, I don't mind
that resolution loss for that feature. You should show Ellis the, because I think you missed that part of the
event where like a notification comes up and just the notification is like black. You did see it.
That's cool. That is like one of the cooler demos I've seen.
In a while, I...
Yeah.
I mean, they used a lot of the keynote talking about that for sure.
It was the first thing that they talked about during the keynote.
So, to Samsung's credit, and they've done like a bunch of crazy display innovations in the past, they've done the note, they've done the Galaxy Mega, they've done the Galaxy Round, they've done the tri-fold, the regular full.
They've done a lot of crazy screen stuff, so this is right up Samsung's alley.
But also, to your point, David, the rest of this phone feels less unique than ever before.
Yeah, for sure.
I think my review, I feel like I have to say,
feels less like an ultra than ever before.
Yeah.
It does have a S-pen,
but it's kind of just like away
the Bluetooth than the S-Pen.
It's like a bigger S-26 plus.
I think to David's point, like the boxier display,
like it still all kind of felt like a note to us, right?
Like it felt like the note was just released at the same time
and they called it ultra.
Now this just feels like an S-26 lineup.
Yeah, like plus plus or, yeah.
I mean, my theory is like last year for Q1, 2025,
of all the Samsung phones sold,
the S-25 was the third highest selling
with the two before it being the cheap phones,
like the pay-as-you-go phones,
which sell a crazy amount.
And so I think that they probably
just want to make the ultra more appealable
to more people and seem less aggressive
so that more people are content with it.
It's really interesting.
Because everyone in the United States,
not everyone in the United States,
but a large chunk of the United States
just buys phones through carriers anyway
on carrier plans.
Yep.
And so most of these companies are selling
the most expensive phone to the most people.
So at least in the United States.
The iPhone 16 apparently did sell more than the 16 Pro Max in the Q1 of 2025,
but the Pro Mac is always near the top.
Yep.
So I don't know.
I'm assuming they're just trying to sort of like make it a little more simple,
so it appeals to more people.
Well, you know, they also narrowed the difference in price between the base phone
and the max or the Ultra.
This is.
Yeah.
Did they at least raise the storage?
So they did.
Because iPhone did this too.
Yeah.
So last year.
S25 was 799.
Right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
I got confused, I think.
They, technically the S25 is the same price without the 128 gig option.
Which is exactly.
They keep doing this.
But it didn't Apple.
Apple was the same price as the year before, but you just got the more storage.
That's what Samsung should have done.
Yes.
Samsung just took away a cheaper option.
Yeah.
And kind of like played it off with like, well, you get more storage.
storage it's like yeah but you could have gotten that same phone for the same price
so there is no storage is crazy right storage like have the cost of the phone so
there is no 128 gig version of the of the S26 at all it starts at 256 gigs okay
and that phone is nine is eight is nine hundred dollars eight ninety nine for
the regular one regular S26 whoa that's garbage so then it's two fifty six gig
eleven hundred for the S twenty six plus no way eleven hundred and then it's thirteen
for the Ultra.
That's crazy.
So, yeah, they're all expensive phones.
And when you look at what other phone companies are calling Ultra,
with these crazy fast charging, like, silicon carbon batteries,
and these massive display and camera arrangements,
like all these insane features that they're doing,
this doesn't feel as much like an ultra phone,
like the way those do.
Yeah.
You know?
They're really trying to sell the Ultra, though,
because when you go to Samsung.com and you go to shop,
it just lists Galaxy S26 Ultra.
and then from there, when you go to that page,
you can pick GalaxyS 26.
And it's like a tab on the top that's really easy to miss.
It's like, you're going to buy the Ultra.
You're going to buy the Ultra.
Wait, does the, do the regular ones come with the privacy screen,
or is that an Ultra feature?
Nope, UltraFutri.
That's only Ultra.
So that 26 and 26 plus is...
They're the same phone.
It's the same.
And they're kind of terrible deals
compared to like the Pixel and the iPhone.
And those phones really didn't change much.
Like, I think the battery went from 4,000 to 4,300 on the base.
otherwise it's like same phones, same cameras, slightly different design,
mostly everything else is the same.
The most boring looking phone I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, it's a generic standard phone.
It's honestly not even a, it's not, Pixel isn't even a better deal because pixel
10 is 800, but that's at 128.
Inside you, there are two wolves.
So it's 256, you're at the same price.
Yeah.
You're either the S-26 standard edition or you're the trifold.
Yeah.
The two wolves of Samsung.
This, the Ultra, all you needed, all you need to do.
If the S-26 Ultra comes out with the privacy screen,
Chi-2 and like a silicon carbon battery,
it's like phone in the air, right off the, like,
that's bad your phone.
What an actual upgrade.
Instead, they're like,
Hey, here's a pretty cool thing.
Let's give you that.
Nothing else and just yap about AI slop for a while.
Didn't you say they would have, you thought it would have magnets?
I do have to issue in Nepal.
to all of our listeners.
We thought it would have next.
We strive for accuracy at this podcast.
That was a prediction.
I gave you.
A very confident.
Fake news.
And I apologize.
But next year,
we got it next year.
Because we all said it wasn't going to have Maxx.
Well,
my uncle works at Samsung,
and he said that next year,
they're going to go cheat you.
Yeah.
But he's going to ban you if you know?
Yeah.
Bigsby stick or something like that.
Yeah.
Speaking of Bixby,
you know,
a lot of the other features
that they talked about with these phones
and that are new are software.
So a bunch of AI stuff, a bunch of Bixby, a bunch of integrations, Gemini here, perplexity there, a little bit.
You know, there's a new, the new Bixby technically, technically LLM powered.
It used to be a small language model.
Now it's a large language model.
So I'm going to be trying out to skip the Bixby.
So, yeah, we'll see how that goes.
But yeah, it's just, they manage to import or build their own versions of a lot of the same features that have made pixel phones, pixel phones.
It's like they have call screening now.
And they just have a different name for it.
But they have like that.
They have, God, it's like the image.
A nudge or something?
Yeah, now nudge.
Now nudge, which is essentially magic cue,
which is both meaningless things to say out loud.
But it's basically built into the keyboard
will give you suggestions of things to type
based on the context of the conversation you're having.
When they announced that, I was like,
AI power.
I had that for 50 years.
I was like, Marquez, is this that thing Google has?
And both was for like,
I can't remember the name of it.
You looked it up.
And then I went.
I honestly don't know if that's working on my phone
because either I just don't use it
and skip by it all the time
because it's so useless
or it literally doesn't work.
I couldn't tell you which one it was.
Yeah, I hardly use it.
It doesn't really work on the pixel.
It's supposed to be a fun pixel feature.
Yeah, it popped up once for me and it was wrong.
Unfortunately.
So yeah, maybe now Nudge will be a little better.
Maybe.
They also have this image playground thing.
I think it's called Creative Studio
where you can AI generate whatever
thing image you want.
They had endless AI
generated images
as features of cupcakes, basically.
I think Allison Johnson
posted an article that was like
Samsung is on Slop Watch for
unpacked 2020. They called it an AI
phone in all caps.
Are they AI agents? Oh, yeah.
Didn't they call it AIOS?
Samsung just invented iOS.
It's an iOS. It's an iOS.
They didn't invent an iOS.
AIO.
A.O.
Okay.
There are other iOS.
Yeah.
Apple IOS.
Yeah.
Your grammar is wrong.
Shouldn't be an AN iOS?
Yeah.
It was tough.
Yeah.
It was tough.
So, you know, take it or leave it.
Some of that stuff, I'm sure, will trickle down to older phones as well.
But if you're thinking about S-26s, you now know that they're very similar to S-25s.
And then the Ultra has this one sick display feature.
Charges at 60 watts now?
That's a big thing.
So the whole lineup charges a little faster than before.
25 watts on the base, 45 watts on the pole.
plus 60 watts on the ultra.
I wonder if it's,
because I remember,
this is either the,
I think this was the S20 Ultra
when they set it charged at 45 watts
and it only charged at 45 watts
for like two minutes.
This will be similar, I think.
It's gonna peak at 60 watts,
but I think this stat that's maybe more informative
is it's like zero to,
or 10 to 80% and half an hour
or something like that,
which is decent.
Can I complain about something
that's only for us?
In the spec sheet that they sent us
for your briefing,
the way they describe charging
is the S-26 has super fast charging
the S-26 plus has super fast charging 2.0
and the S-26 Ultra has super fast charging
3.0.
Oh my gosh.
No wattage numbers, no, no.
This is exactly the how something else.
This is how Apple does it too.
I had to get that.
They just give you this bad branding
without any of the technical.
That same sheet has an option,
like it shows all the storage options
and then it says microSD.
Not available, not available, not available.
Like, why even have that back back?
Just get rid of that column.
Yeah.
Let's be going to bring it back.
I don't know.
Anyway, yeah, it comes in Cobalt Violet, which I don't know why they called that.
That's my favorite Microsoft product.
Cobalt.
Microsoft Cobol Violet.
Oh, Copilot.
I was going to say Duolipa hates that call.
I didn't get it.
Thank you for spelling it out.
I didn't get it.
You're going to keep that in the podcast?
Hey man, you had a lot of bangers last week.
You can't win them all, okay?
Sky blue, which I did like that color.
Black and white did not like those colors.
No.
Black is the one.
Are there any online exclusive colors?
Yeah, there are.
Silver shadow.
Whatever that means.
Wait, that's the exclusive.
It's like gray, basically.
And pink gold, also exclusive.
Not rose gold?
Not rose gold.
That's patented.
Yeah, fair.
I don't even see.
Oh, I almost forgot.
How could I forget?
Slightly wider apertures in the Ultras primary and telephoto cameras.
Never mind.
I'm all in.
How could I forget?
Yeah.
They do have like an action mode now that they had that like straightens the horizon.
And Becca did like a short on it.
And it actually did look very good.
She was able to like rotate the camera like this and the image stayed like exactly the same.
It like did not move it all.
It's clever.
It's similar to what Apple did with the selfie camera on the iPhone.
where if you are recording a small enough section
of that rectangular sensor,
then you can fully stabilize the center portion.
The whole thing based on whatever the orientation is.
I'm just explaining that poorly,
but it's clever and uses the hardware well.
Marquez, we are locked in because I was about to bring that up
because I was so mad that they did not steal that from Apple
with the S-20.
The square sensor.
Yeah, like, why not?
I was just hyping this feature up yesterday to Just
because she was asking me how that selfie feature worked.
And I was like, it's so good.
I can't wait for everyone to steal it.
There's actually an event tomorrow that maybe we'll see what the S-12.
And nope, no stealing.
So they didn't do it with the selfie camera,
but that one feature of like super-super-stabilization horizontal lock
allows you to like literally flip your phone upside down
and the horizon stays locked because it has that much degrees of stabilization.
Yeah, which is cool.
Well, that's boring.
So Samsung phones for you?
We should, should we do the nothing phone before we take it a break?
Or should we do it after the break?
Let's save it for after the break.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
But you know what we should do before the break?
The MacBook.
Trivia.
Oh, okay.
Little teaser there.
Head fake.
The MacBook.
There's a new...
We're going to talk about a MacBook.
What?
Later.
Why is that not in the outline?
It is.
I have nothing about this MacBook.
You have nothing?
All right.
Well, the question...
Ellis hit it.
Were you paying attention?
I knew it.
The most boring keynote to all time.
You guys were not paying attention.
Oh.
This whole keynote could have been a press release, but at the end of it, they showed off an expert
raw mode feature that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and
fish and stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean.
Yes.
What is it called?
And actually, this feature is not new.
Apparently, I was looking at it up.
It was released an S24 Ultra, which is funny.
They just brought it up again.
They just brought it up again for reasons.
I think I remember what they called.
That's these companies' favorite things to do is to reintroduce a feature as if you're hearing it
for the first time.
Yeah.
They do that a lot.
There's so many times when we're like writing scripts on stuff like that,
I have to just go back and check things again and be like,
I know in the briefing they just like claimed it seemed like this is brand new.
Yeah.
And then I'll be like,
that happened already.
I mean,
they showed Circle to Search twice in this one event.
This is the 40th time they've showed Circle to Search.
I swear.
Yeah.
All right.
I think we'll remember.
We'll think about it.
Manatee node.
I swear I was bad intention.
I wasn't.
I don't even remember the question Adam as.
He wasn't even pay attention to this podcast.
All right.
Which pixel came in coral?
Oh, that was three.
In the biz, we call that a callback.
No, three of a sand.
Answers will be at the end like usual.
Four.
We'll be right back.
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All right, welcome back.
We got to talk a whole lot about nothing.
I think we've used that joke like 70 times.
And I will continue to use it.
No, it's funny.
That's my bad.
I should have done a little, I should have made it better.
No, it's okay.
But the Nothing Phone 4A got unveiled, I guess, is the word, because they always do like several
different unveilings.
They showed us the design for the first time and confirmed exactly one spec because they
mentioned the periscope camera.
So for those of you who are on the edge of your seat about what type of telephoto lens
they would be using, confirmed.
It's a periscope camera.
It's a tetraprism lens.
Anyway, I think it looks pretty good.
It's desaturated red.
Understatement of the century.
You guys seem really interesting.
to the aesthetics.
I think it's really nice looking.
It's the best nothing fun.
It's the best nothing fun.
Really?
Okay, so I think the 2A
was probably their best so far.
I think it looks as good.
It's a better version of the 2A.
It's like less aggressive than the 2A.
Sure.
And it's de-saturated red.
It's got nice, okay, so the, yeah,
it's got a lot,
I guess I'll try to describe it.
It's got a lot of the same silver,
white, and red aesthetic,
the clear with the, like,
textures and text underneath.
And then it has the glyphs on the top right side.
which is just a stack of seven large boxes.
I like this part a lot.
I do too.
The bottom most box is red,
and then each one of the boxes above it is white.
And so they played with different animations
of things that they can indicate,
whether it's a timer or a notification,
where those boxes move in stack.
Recording light is the red one blinking.
Cool stuff there.
Every phone should have a red blinking recording light.
And the AI glasses.
That's what I was thinking watching this.
I was like, this is important.
I feel like everyone needs this.
Even harder to agree on glass.
The glasses.
Every pair of smart glasses when it's recording should be blinking red.
It's crazy that it's not.
I think why I like this better than the 2A is the 2A had the two cameras in a little cutout with a big circle around it where this is the longer bar more like a pixel and the like silver lining around it matches it.
It doesn't get any pixel.
It's kind of like nothing X pixel.
Yeah.
It's got the bean.
The bean.
It's got that bean.
The bean is back.
cameras. Yeah, it looks good. It does look good. I think it looks really good. The LEDs, like you said, are
awesome. It's a seven by one vertical to the right side of the camera bar. Bottom one is red. There's
some pretty cool ways of using it. Like, if there's a timer on the nothing phone three, that had
this stupid little spin the bottle thing. That would be like sand falling into an hourglass.
That was cool, though. So this is just like slowly, it'll blink at the top and then slowly fall down to the
bottom and stack up as a timer.
Yeah.
The camera shut, like if you're doing like a camera timer, yeah, it'll blink.
And then when the shutter goes off, yeah, like top and bottom connect like a shutter.
Yeah.
It's really awesome.
I wish, and this is probably not a wish for a, this is, you know, the A series or the cheaper one.
If all of those were different colors, that would be awesome.
Because then my, like we all want with notification LEDs, my emails are blue, my text messages
are green, my whatever.
Like having that, this I think you can do stuff similar,
but you're learning like patterns of how the glyph works.
Yeah.
Which is harder.
Do you guys think this will be cheaper?
Because it is the A,
but he also made that announcement.
The blog post about cheaper?
I don't think it'll be cheaper.
He made that big blog post a few weeks ago about how all phones are going to be more
expensive this year.
No, no,
I think it'll be cheaper than like the three.
The three series.
Oh, yeah.
Because there will be no four series,
but that's also in the A series.
Well, they won't be a four series this year.
This year, yeah, sorry.
That's true.
Yeah.
But, I mean, he made that big blog post
about how all phones are going to get more expensive,
which has not really came true yet.
How much was the 3A when it came in?
Which one?
Bam, you're right.
3A glow in the dark edition.
The light or the 3A, the 3A,
3A, pro.
3A was 370.
What's the 3A pro?
What about the CMF pro light?
3A pro.
launch price was $459.
I think it'll be in between those.
Yeah, that's about right.
Yeah.
400.
425.
Do you think they'll launch a 4-A-Pro?
Yeah.
I think if you're not...
Yeah.
I'll say if there's no 4-series,
do you think this is going to be
nothing's only phone launch of the year?
For the year.
That's what they said.
I mean, unless they do a pro.
Yeah.
I feel like I can also just based on
how they've done this in the past,
like, kind of guess the rest of how this phone's
going to go.
Mm-hmm.
Like, you can see the triple cameras on the back.
Right.
It's probably going to be a solid Qualcomm mid-range chip.
It's probably going to be 120 hertz, OLED.
Probably 1080 OLED or something at the front.
It's probably going to have this nice, quirky, nothing OS with a couple new features in there.
Maybe some AI stuff, maybe not.
It doesn't seem like they lean into it that much.
They have a new AI thing, yeah.
They haven't leaned super super in like Samsung, but they do have maybe like mine space or a couple things like that.
I expect that to happen again.
Essential space.
And then, oh yeah, that.
And then, yeah, maybe a couple of, I mean, average speakers probably, probably some fun.
Vibration motor stuff.
Decent, yeah, I don't think anything else too crazy.
Yeah, they do have that, like, instant app thing now where you can describe the app you want,
and it kind of makes it for you.
Whoa, right?
They have that in the song.
Didn't they do that?
What?
I do not remember that, but the nothing lineup couldn't be more confusing in my eyes.
I'm looking at, like, their lineup right?
now and the 3a, the 3A Pro and the 3A light are three completely different phones.
None of them just look like an offshoot of one of them.
Like if we're talking about how Samsung, you know, the Ultra Plus and regular all look
exactly the same, this is the exact opposite of this.
These are three completely different phones.
Yeah, that's true.
Fairly recently they released the essential apps, which is where you can describe an app or
widget and it will make it for you.
Apparently it's pretty limited right now and you can have up to six of that.
but I know that some people had played with it and it was like semi useful for extremely basic things
but for anything you know more complicated it's going to be a few years down the line didn't
I was going to say I could see that making any app in their little dot matrix thing because
it'd be the easiest thing possible but didn't they ditch the dot matrix uh like whole design vibe
from the three I just thought like nothing in general is not doing the like I think
you're doing dot matrix anymore I thought they're
we're still doing that in the software.
Like their fonts still have dots and boot animations and random things still have dots in there.
Yeah.
Is this right?
They changed the logo?
There's a cool essential apps store you can go to now with the essential apps that people have made where you can try different ones.
It is kind of interesting and fun and cool.
I think once this gets better and builds out, it'll be more interesting.
A lot of dots.
They'll probably have that, a lot of dots.
A lot of dots.
They'll probably have that on this phone, I'm sure.
Gotcha.
They have a five-second rule one.
So I guess you have to start it once you drop something.
It tells you whether or not you can eat it or not.
Wait, get your phone.
Don't pick it up off the floor.
Don't pick it up off the floor. Start the timer on your phone.
But then it's been like 10 seconds by the time you do that.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, it's pretty simple.
Unfortunately, today is Wednesday.
We're recording on a Wednesday.
And tomorrow morning is the time at which everything about this is revealed.
No, no.
Isn't it next?
Next week, March 4th.
The day after that.
I'm so wrong.
I actually think they're doing this because they saw.
oh, we're a day after Apple stuff and a week after Samsung stuff.
Let's get something in before Samsung stuff.
Nothing mug Samsung.
Oh, no, but they always do this long drip.
Yeah, new feature, a new spec.
They'll next tomorrow they'll tell us the processor,
and then the next day they'll tell us what the camera specs are,
and then the next day they'll tell us the battery size,
and then the next day they'll tell us the materials,
and then they just keep going.
This is one of the best pieces of content I've seen nothing put out.
I thought this was informative.
Yeah.
I love.
The video is great.
I learned what a tetrapism periscope lens was.
I did it the presenters killed it.
The presenters did really well.
I loved the shot at a pink phone just being desaturated red.
It's true.
Yeah, there's some funny stuff.
And the pink, I think we opened this up with the pink and I didn't talk about it.
The pink looks fantastic.
It's so good.
I want to wait to see it in person.
That's true.
Because I have seen pictures and video of it and it looks amazing.
But that always like, it comes out the box and you're like, oh, so that's what it looks like.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm waiting.
But I am excited for it.
It does look gorgeous.
Yeah, I have to see it in person.
Nothing's mostly design, right?
We saw the majority of what we care about of this phone.
Just need a price tag now.
That's, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last thing we'll probably find out.
Yes.
It has Chee 2.
No.
Absolutely nothing.
You think this transparent phone has Chee 2?
Yeah, you'd see those coils.
Okay.
Another quick story that popped up yesterday, which is quite interesting.
Apparently, later this year, there's going to be a touchscreen OLED MacBook Pro with a dynamic island and redesigned macOS controls.
So crazy enough, in one week, Apple is rumored to release the M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook Pros, which are really nothing more than just spec upgrades to the current generation of laptops.
Yes.
But reportedly near the end of the year, probably around late October, November, which is when they usually do this kind of stuff, they're going to release this whole new generation.
of MacBook Pros with M6 Max and M6 Pro.
Yeah, it's a big deal because they're going to be getting rid of this notch, I guess, that you could say,
that in the current design of MacBook Pros, they're going to be having the dynamic island similar to the iPhone.
What that says about whether the iPhone is going to have dynamic island for another few years,
as opposed to just making it transparent, I'm not sure.
But apparently, when you touch different aspects of MacOS, it is going to expand to be more touch-friendly.
So it'll be able to be used with both a keyboard and your hands, kind of like whenever you want, and it will change a little bit for that reason.
MacOS has been sort of being slowly restructured to be more like iOS and iPadOS in general.
They look very similar right now anyway.
So I think the main things Apple is going to really have to kind of focus on are making sure that it doesn't wobble every time you tap it.
and then maybe also making the screen
a little more fingerprint resistant.
Quinn at Snazzy Labs
put out a pretty banger video this morning
about maybe why they're doing all of this stuff
and he was talking about like the RAM shortage
and everything like that and they're keeping the prices
the same for a lot of these things.
So he was estimating that
the reason they're launching
a M5 Pro and an M5 Max
and the M6 Pro and M6 Max
in the same year is so they can create
huge product line differentiations
where they still sell the M5
M5 Pro and M5 Macs computers, but then the M6 Pro M6 Macs are way more expensive because they have a way better display, touchscreen, and they're more powerful.
So that would be one reason to release two lines of laptops in one year.
I see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I might just be one of those people that kind of is along for the ride for the better specs and better display, even though I don't want a touchscreen.
And I don't wonder what that does the rest of the MacOS experience.
Hopefully not too much.
I'm kind of, because like Windows right now
you can either get a touchscreen or not touchscreen computer
and Windows is the same.
Yeah.
It sounds like you're saying there's maybe going to be some differences
to the touchscreen version of a Mac OS potentially.
Well, the rumor is that it'll be about the same,
but then when you go to touch it,
it will sort of like reformat itself on the fly to be more touch.
Okay, so if I never touch the screen,
it would just behave exactly the same maybe as a regular.
Maybe a slight redesign.
I'm sure we're going to see more of this at WWDC.
in June.
Yeah.
So I'm on, so I've said for years,
I've never really wanted a touchscreen on my laptop.
I've had laptops with a touchscreen.
I rarely ever touch the screen.
Anytime there is the ability to touch the screen,
I'm annoyed by how much it wobbles
and how many fingerprints stay on the screen,
and I wish I never touched the screen.
So, I don't know,
where are you guys on touchscreen on the laptop?
I'm sort of in between.
I mean, now that we have these enormous track pads,
it's less of a problem.
I don't know if you guys remember,
but laptop track pads used to be really small
and really annoying to use.
And so now that they're that much bigger,
I really do think that they should have just
added Apple Pencil support to the track pad
and that would have solved a lot of problems.
I will say in Photoshop,
it's really nice to be able to pan and zoom with your fingers
and I used that on my Surface Book 2
back in the day when I had that a lot.
But besides that, I don't need it.
I'm not really sure why they're doing it.
Maybe it's just because OLEDs at this point are cheap enough to be able to make them touch capacitive?
Yeah, I don't know.
David, it's such a good point.
Like all the cool parts of the touchscreen experience, which are gestures.
You can do on the track pad.
It's built in.
Yeah.
On the track pad.
Also, who is it for?
Like, I'll be, like, no one, if you're buying a MacBook Pro as you're, like, cuddle up and watch some Netflix on the couch computer, like, dude, chill out.
You know what I mean?
And then it's like...
It's iPad.
Yeah, exactly.
So if you're buying a MacBook Pro,
you're intending to do something professional with it, I would assume.
You don't have to only do professional things with it, though.
If you're spending that much money,
it still should be able to function as your curl up and watch a movie.
MacBook.
It is going to be thinner too, apparently, which scares me.
Have you all ever sat on the couch like this?
Hold on.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, let's go.
Like this.
So, Andrew.
Do you know how hard, like, knees up, you know, on the couch?
Andrew's feet are on the chair, knees up, computer wedged in between, screen at an obtuse angle.
Look how easy it is to scroll like this?
Oh, true.
Oh, because your hands up there.
And then my, you know how hard it is a scroll like this?
That's crazy.
I never, true.
I just got proven wrong.
Y'all just need some more comfy position.
No, no, it's because my computer spends probably like 80% of its on time in clamshell mode, like in a dock.
The other 20% are between my knees and my chest just like that.
That's true.
If you're reading.
Yeah, being able to just kind of like flick with your thumb.
I love potting like this.
My thumb's sometimes right here and I'm just like scrolling on that.
I know I can scroll too.
Listen, I do it on both.
But when I used my surface for a long time and I got really used to just occasionally like doing this scrolling or like, yeah.
And then I come back and not have it.
And I'm like, oh my God, I do that way more than I thought.
Yeah.
Scrolling is not a big deal if the main place you use a laptop is your desk.
I think every time I'm on the couch, when I'm on an airplane, when I'm in the backseat of a car, scrolling like that in a touchscreen is so much nicer.
Yeah.
And you don't have to use it.
It's, yeah, it's option.
If I see an on-screen keyboard pop up in my Mac OS experience, I swear.
That's, yeah.
I'm doing something terrible.
That's where I draw the line.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think Apple needs to release some sort of display coding that stops fingerprints.
Yeah, fingerprints are going to.
It drives me insane.
We should come out with like a special finger.
Like what did Quinn do?
He has like a cloth.
He's like the polishing cloth.
He just launched it.
Like XXL or something.
It's like the bigger version.
Yeah.
And it's like the same.
Polishing cloth market's about to go crazy.
Yeah.
Oh, true.
About to go crazy.
Oh, that's smart of him.
That's smart of him.
Think about it.
Corner the market early.
So when everyone's touching their computer screens.
Yeah.
You know where to clean it.
Yeah.
I will say touchscreen with the kid is awful.
because I'll just be like...
They don't clean their fingers.
Well, no, no, it's not even that.
It's just like every time I have my computer up
and Lane runs over and she wants to play with it.
And it's easy enough to defend the keyboard with one arm.
But then it's just...
And all my windows are all over the place now.
Lord knows where.
And I'm just like, oh, no.
So it happens to Claire more often
because she's using a Lenovo.
But yeah, it screws that computer up all the time.
When I was teaching,
what happened to me all the time
where a student would be like,
can you help me like figure out this Ableton thing?
and I'd sit down
and be like
oh you just click right here
what have I done
yeah
so I guess we'll see
how expensive that ends up being
I mean you got me wondering David now
do you think that they'll do gestures on the screen
because they already have them all
like being able to I mean yeah yeah like an iPad
yeah like an iPad
like on the iPad you can like take all of your fingers
swipe across and it move it to the next app
but not like the gestures from the track
iPad gestures. They're strikingly similar. Yeah, they are quite similar. All fingers does, yeah, it's
very similar. Can you tell he has a Galaxy tab? It's funny. So I have an iPad and a MacBook Pro,
and I very distinctly use them differently for different things, and I just feel like a touchscreen
laptop would blur that line. This has always been the argument. Like, why would you need both?
I guess it's for people who don't have both. It's for people who don't have an iPad and don't want to
buy two things. Now you have one thing that does both. I wonder how much of this is just that the technology
is so much cheaper now.
That's what I keep wondering.
Might as well.
You know.
It's been true for a while.
It's just there's been such a philosophical argument against a touchscreen Macbook.
Yeah.
For forever.
Well, there was that famous like Steve Jobs keynote where he says that your arm's going to turn
into a gorilla arm if you do that and you're going to like break your screen or something.
He said a lot of things that they've gone back on though before.
Yeah.
He said style.
Who wants a stylus?
Ugh.
Remember that?
He hates stylists.
That 10 perfectly good stylists is right here.
To be fair, I think that was for phones mostly.
Introducing Apple Pencil.
Yeah.
I guess it's never to the eyes.
Honestly.
Yeah.
We'll see how this goes.
Yeah.
So that's a rumor mill thing.
We all know, well, we all expect a whole bunch of new laptops and a bunch of other stuff that I talked about last week.
Next week.
Yeah, we're going to get that cheap MacBook next week.
So if you haven't already subscribed away for them.
Promise?
Get subscribed.
My uncle said that it is.
We'll get all that info very soon for you.
Yeah, okay.
Quinn's, it's called, sorry, going back to that, Cloth Pro Max.
He really went all out.
So like packaging itself really feels like an Apple product.
It also has a compatibility list.
That's incredible.
That has a bunch of iPhones stuff and then says there's also dusty Nintendo Switch.
Nice.
Old cinema display.
CRT TV.
Nice.
This is awesome.
Very cool.
All right.
Well, we're going to wrap it up with a couple more stories after the break.
But before that, we have some more questions to ask us and potentially not get any points.
like usual.
T for trivia.
Oh, I thought you were going to say time out.
That's what I think.
Trivia.
Trivia. That's what that means.
Samsung.
The one.
The only.
They have a lot of products.
Oh, boy.
Is it a tractor again?
A lot.
No, this question is about two Samsung products that we know and love,
specifically the Galaxy Buds and the Galaxy Z-fold.
These are both staples.
of the Samsung lineup.
However, which one came out first?
And I'm talking original buds or original fold.
Interesting.
Would we call them staples?
They're both products that Samsung sells.
Staples.
The buds are, I think,
Buds can buy it in a staple.
The fold is starting to get there.
It's a stapler.
It's out there.
The fold we're on the Z-fold 7,
and we're only on the buds 4.
but that doesn't mean anything.
Yeah.
It could be...
That doesn't mean nothing.
Yeah, we could have had many, many years.
We didn't even talk about the buds.
Yeah, by the way, it was new buds.
I kind of like them.
We didn't talk about the design.
I wrote this question as soon as we were going to talk about the buds.
We didn't talk about that.
The buds are sweet.
I have them actually.
I'm going to start testing them more.
They look like, I mean, they all kind of look like AirPods from the front, but from the back, they
redesigned them.
They have new drivers.
They have new features.
The brush metal.
The brush metal, the flat back.
It looks pretty sweet.
It looks like if an AirPods had the clip of a pen glued to the end of it.
for a flat thing when I'm like controlling like a squeeze,
like a round like barrel thing is,
it's kind of annoying actually to squeeze.
Well, that's why they like chamfered it on the side.
Yeah, but like a fully flat thing.
I like that.
I like that better.
That's just me.
Anyway.
Yeah, we'll be testing those as well.
Anyway, okay, yeah.
So trivia will be at the end.
Answers like at the, uh, answers that be right back.
The usual at the end.
All right, welcome back.
We got to talk about weather a little bit more.
I was waiting for someone to say the dad joke.
Whether or not.
I couldn't think of one fast enough.
Whether or not.
Mostly because, okay, so I've talked about weather in the past on this podcast,
mostly because I think a couple weeks ago I was comparing tech YouTube to weather YouTube,
and I'm sticking by that.
There are so many parallels between the two, especially because we just had another blizzard.
I don't know if you guys are, did the weather stuff hit your feeds at all?
You know, definitely hit my block.
I'm the only one?
My feed's been filled with other garbage.
You didn't go to YouTube.com during the Great Blizzard of 2026?
The one two weeks ago or the one?
The one like three days ago?
Uh, I did not.
Or I did not have it.
My feed was full of all the YouTubers were live at the same time.
Open it up camera feeds.
Showing the live precipitation totals in different places.
Were they interviewing people on the streets?
Some of them.
Yeah, one of them, he had a feed of, Ryan Hall had a guy who was like, he had a feed of someone who was just walking through New York City during the blizzard.
Just walking around in different stuff.
It was pretty cool.
Cool.
Um, I like the blizzard is fun.
Yeah, anyway.
Wait, which Ryan Hall are you talking about?
Ryan Hall, y'all?
I can't even Google.
other YouTuber.
Ryan Hall, y'all.
I see.
Got it.
That's a great name.
That's his name.
That's the YouTube name.
So shout out to Ryan Hall.
He's got a whole thing.
But a lot of people, when I talked about weather apps on social media, like to bring up that the founders of Dark Sky actually recently came out with a new app called Acme Weather.
And I just want to point out, they emailed me right before it went live.
And they were like, hey, Marquez, this is, I'm one of the founders of Dark Sky.
And we actually got acquired by Apple.
And I left Apple.
And we started this new thing.
and here's a link to the test flight
and I was like,
this could be the greatest fishing email of all time.
Because it's so specific to what I would insta-click.
I clicked it immediately downloaded it without even checking.
Clicked it so fast.
You mean your open-clod bot?
Yeah.
On your behalf.
Yeah, man.
I immediately downloaded it.
So it's called Acme Weather.
And it is a similar in a few ways in some features,
but it also has some new aesthetics to it.
But it is a new weather app.
It's iOS only right now.
It's paid.
Many of the good weather apps are paid.
I'm just going to get it out the way ahead of time just so you know.
But it is pretty good, I would say.
And I've been playing it with it for the last couple of days.
I'm just upset that this is the first time I'm hearing about it.
Really?
That you had access to this before.
It's funny.
Yeah, we didn't.
I dropped this in slack.
Nobody.
No, I kind of assumed that we'd all seen the headlines.
Yeah.
And just we're going to try it.
Well, sure.
I can't try it because it's iPhone only.
Yeah, that's fair.
That is fair.
Well, we'll toss a screenshot or two in the pod for those of you who haven't seen what it looks like yet, but it kind of almost looks like, okay, I put a Venn diagram on Twitter of like there's the pretty weather apps and then there's the accurate weather apps.
Yeah.
The pretty ones like the default Google weather app are almost always not super accurate.
and then the ones that have like their own data and that are like the weather.com and acu other ones
are really good information but are like horrible apps and a lot of people at that point pointed out that
carrot weather which is the one that i use is kind of right in the middle because you choose what source
you have and it looks really good acme weather i think also looks like kind of like the google weather app
it's it's pretty good looking but it has a dark sky timeline underneath and it has a pretty good
radar feature, or map feature, which lets you look at radar, but also things like current
temperature, wind maps, and accumulation totals for predict storms.
So just...
Can't predict that.
I was just looking at this upcoming storm we're expecting in the next couple of days.
And, yeah, we're supposed to get some more...
Wait, when?
This weekend.
Sunday, Monday.
We...
So I never check weather.
It's one of my many faults.
I always learned about upcoming storms in this room when we sit down.
And Marquez is like, are you ready for this storm?
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
I think we need to enact an app time limit on weather apps on Marquez's phone because it's getting to be a lot.
This weekend, I was like, Sunday, I'm like, I really hope it doesn't snow that much.
Oh, hey, everyone.
And it's like, it's pretty warm outside.
There's probably not going to be any weather.
He's like, wait until the low pressure system comes in.
I was like, eat it, Marquez.
Don't worry.
It can't.
It will get.
get worse. That's my bad. It was because it was like during the day and you guys were all like,
there's not that much snow. I was like, don't we all know it's a nighttime storm? Nobody knew.
So I just sprinkled some information.
Google it as best as possible. Unrelated but related. Your Venn diagram that you posted.
Yeah. I was curious. How did you make that?
I googled Venn diagram creator and I opened a Canva template and I made it in Canva.
No. I was convinced you were going to say Final Cut Pro, but that's actually probably
Films two circles on his red.
It should have been faster if I, it would have been faster if I didn't.
Acmey says that it is focused on hyperlocal, hyperaccurate forecasting combined with transparency about forecast uncertainty, which is nice.
So, so hyperlocal weather is neat because kind of like Ways is crowdsourced where if you, if something happens and someone reports it in the app, if it has enough users, that's like really useful information.
So some truck dropped something on the road and you are literally 60 seconds behind that truck.
You'll get a notification that says object on road ahead
because somebody reported it.
Similar thing with weather.
So you'll literally, like, Dark Sky did this really well.
You'd get a notification that says, like,
rain starting in three minutes.
And three minutes later, the front would pass
and it would start raining.
And it feels like kind of this magic moment.
Maybe I'm just a little into weather or whatever,
but, like, I thought that was pretty cool
that they're also bringing that feature.
So they have a report feature.
where you can report things
like, yeah, it just started raining.
Like a bomb cyclone.
Well, it would probably be like a smaller thing,
like frost or ice or whatever.
Community, what's happening right now?
You hit lightning and then everybody knows
there's lightning nearby.
You create lightning.
I kind of assume that multiple people
will need to report it
so that it's not like one person's saying.
I don't know how many people are reporting things.
Similar to ways...
It's just Marquez is the number one
on the leaderboards right now.
I mean, I do use the ways
reports. I would say that it would be
awesome if a lot of people use this app
and reported it and it got good because hyperlocal weather
is sweet. Yeah. It says it has
an alternative possible
futures feature because
that they don't want to assume that the weather is going
to be perfectly accurate every time.
So it shows, it shows like possible
different variations. It's got the black
line, which is what they think is going to happen.
And it's got these gray lines, which is what
might happen. Multiverse confirmed.
Yeah. Yeah, they're just plugged
into all the different versions of
Carney, New Jersey. I just want
to throw it out there. Their logo is
really bad. And I would
love if somebody redid it.
It's like the umbrella
from McNamee. I thought it's cute.
It's fine. That blue gradient, it looks bad.
What? Well, it's an umbrella.
Wait, what? The umbrellas, I don't know.
Oh, is the icon different than the...
It's like the Wiley Coyoteo. The blue...
Yeah, it's like a blue gradient on the...
Yeah. We were looking at just like the black and white
look on the website. Oh, no. It's not my favorite. I will say that. It's not great. Definitely my
favorite. But it's cool. Yeah. It kind of looks like if Claude and the New York Times made an app together
because Andrew said it was a New York Times looking app and it has like the Claude color palette.
Everyone needs to stop using the Chabani font. I don't know what font it is.
But like look up Chobani yogurt like the font. Knock it off. New York Times loves Chabani.
I don't know what kind of see what you mean.
It's everywhere.
It's like all the
millennial-ass DTC companies.
I think it's the off-white background
that makes it feel.
Like the Shabani packaging.
All right.
Well,
just make our own weather station
so we can just have
hyper local weather
for this video.
That's actually a thing you can do.
So wait,
that was a question I kind of have.
That's what I'm saying.
I can't tell if this is a real thing
or I'm remembering it incorrectly.
So maybe one of you heard of it
or an audience member has,
but I swear my cousin told me
about this thing that he bought
that he puts up
his garage and a lot of people in the area have them and are connected together.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like wind and barometer and stuff and it takes down what's happening outside.
This is a whole rabbit hole in the weather.
Do you have this?
No, but.
How do you not have this?
Weather boy?
I should.
I should.
I should just put one up.
Yes.
I, and you have a weather app or like even like some people have like a dedicated display
where it's like you can plug into the data or you can plug into the data from your
own weather station.
So instead of getting a local report from the Newark weather station about like what
pressure and temperature and all that are, you'll take it from your actual weather station.
So you'll get your actual location.
We can have MQBHT-BHT weather.
For every bit of data you upload to the weather network, it mines part of the hash of a
cryptocurrency.
Weather coin?
Weather coin.
Well, no, then it would actually have some utility.
Let's do one.
Yeah, we should.
How much are they?
What do I search?
Andrew, remember when I was like, I need to find this weather thing?
Sort of similar.
You know, it is that.
It's just a thing you put on your roof and then it tells you the weather.
I thought yours was just the display.
I didn't realize it was the roof.
You can only get the display with the roof thing.
You cannot get a display that just 3Gs or whatever.
I mean, now you can now that terminal exists.
Okay.
But, right.
Yeah, I don't know.
My cousin seemed, everyone I've ever heard talking about this seems super powerful.
No, if you go on Amazon and just type in weather station, they're made by, they're like 30 bucks and everybody makes them.
And I'm sure they're all, I think it's dumb.
Tell us a good.
one. I want one.
It's just like, what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are?
I need to know what it's going to be.
I can go outside.
Can you link up with other people?
And then if you get enough people in a localized region.
How does that tell you what it's going to be?
Because then when it's coming from the west, my homies to the west are speeding the
information.
My weather homies.
So here's the other thing about weather is there's all these different models that are aggregated
and computed by different computers and regions or whatever.
Right.
So those are based on the weather stations that they use.
So then if you have your own weather station that's maybe a little like, like Newark is close by,
but we're 50 miles away from Newark or something, then you can adjust yours based on how far
you are from the weather station that you're getting your information from.
It's kind of interesting.
I think you should buy me one of these because I'm on the west part of New Jersey and you're
on the east part of New Jersey.
So it's only beneficial for you if you get me one.
New Jersey is a pencil-ass state.
You're like three minutes away from each other.
Dude, no, but the coast thing is...
Distance from the coast is crazy.
You got half as much snow as we did.
I know.
Usually I get more snow than you guys, dude.
Both times this time, I've gotten significantly.
This was a coastal storm that dropped 22 inches here and eight inches there.
Like, that's because the weather stations.
You know, I know neither of you're in the dating world right now,
but you would be killing it talking about...
weather on your dates, but you'd be like,
that would not...
Oh, let me tell you.
This would not be a dull conversation.
We got to move on, guys. This is insane.
I feel like I just want to shout out
weather committee.
I appreciate it. Yeah.
Just saying, we could start one, Marquez.
I'm not against it. I'm going to start Googling weather stations.
I'll use the company card.
All right.
Let's sum up this story.
will alternate words okay individual words yeah okay all right here we go ready yeah do I
start yeah you can start okay discord is not gonna scan your face or other
children's faces yeah until later late yeah yeah almost good news if you guys are well yeah
If you guys remember our Super Bowl episode, technically true, it was after the Super Bowl.
Discord gotten a lot of heat because they decided that they were going to do age verification via scanning your face if you were a child.
If their algorithms decided that you're probably a kid using various different factors,
one of the ways they were going to verify that you were not a kid actually was to scan your face.
They got a ton of pushback on that.
A lot of people went back to the good old team speak back from.
you know, the 1900s.
And they said,
oopsie, that was a bad idea.
So they are now delaying
the age verification functionality
until the second half of 2026.
Before it rolls out verification,
it's going to add more ways to verify,
like adding a credit card to your account
because that basically just tells you
them how old you are, et cetera.
It will also include documentation
for every verification vendor that they've used.
It will add a spoiler channels option
and publish a technical blog
explaining how all of their age verification systems work.
So they are trying really hard to win back the trust of people of the kids and the adults
because nobody wants their face faces scanned, especially since they had like a data breach
before this in which everyone's data was like leaked and it was not good.
So first nightmare.
Now we can do trivia.
Trivia, dude.
Quick update on the score.
I'll keep it.
Now you know what we deal with people.
Marquez with 14.
Andrew with 17.
David with 16.
That's the same as last.
Same as the past four episodes.
In the week before.
Can you guys please let me update the graphic this week?
All right.
So, were you guys paying attention?
Towards the end of the live event,
they shut off an expert raw mode
that ensures efficient and high quality images
of underwater coral and fission stuff.
when you're swimming or diving in the ocean.
What is it called?
Realistically, it's for when you're at the aquarium.
That's mostly.
Yeah, that's mostly.
Or the one time you go snorkeling and you're like,
isn't this thing waterproof?
And then it's sea salt.
And then you break your phone.
Was this water just the example they used?
It's not specifically for water.
I think it is for water.
It's a mode for being underwater.
Yeah.
It's not, well, things that are underwater.
So like a fish tank.
It'll like pump up the viability.
cyber and see and stuff.
All right, flip them and read.
What do you got?
We all combined her.
Okay.
Marquez, what did you say?
I wrote Ocean Pro.
Wait, hold up.
We only wrote three.
Oh, wow.
We have the entire combinatoric of both of these words.
Just everyone say what they wrote.
One at a time, please.
Oh, I don't know at the same time.
I'll go first.
I wrote Ocean Pro.
Dang it.
I wrote Pro mode.
I wrote Ocean Mode.
Correct.
Oh, Ocean mode it is.
Ocean mode.
Ocean mode by one.
Oh, that's time for the lead.
Yeah.
All right, well, this next one, I was paying attention.
50-50 shot.
Okay.
Fitty, fitty.
Unless you somehow get it wrong.
That's part of the 50-50.
Yeah, that's one of the 50s, isn't it?
That's not how that works.
Big Macs.
That's why we're podcasters.
and not
not politicians
never thought of it like that
it turns out
I've just bodied
every 50 50 shot I've ever had
I didn't know losing it was an option
Oh shoot
I like that guy's what came first
The Samsung Galaxy
Z fold
Or the Gam
The Gamong sung salicy
Or the Samsung Galaxy
Buds
There's no letter with the buds
Right
It's not like the P
Buds.
Because they have the number after.
Galaxy Bud's number.
There's a galaxy, but there's numbers after the fold
two, and there's a letter there. It's the Z fold
five. That's just because they have
so many phones.
They got to separate them with letters.
Oh, wait, I thought the buds did have a number.
No, they do have a number. They don't have a letter. It's not
like the Samsung Galaxy J buds.
Oh.
But imagine?
Well, it's actually the Samsung B,
Uds.
Wow.
All right.
Guys, who would like to read their answer?
Did you guys all write the same thing?
No.
Who has the different thing?
It would be really sad.
I really like the font that you used, Marks.
Thank you.
I don't know why your writing looks different in that,
but I'd buy that as a font.
Impact font.
So I said the buds came first.
I'm so sorry, Marquez.
I know the reason.
I'm so sorry.
You can say the reason.
It's because they didn't used to be called the Galaxy Buds.
That was my guess also.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
The Samsung earbuds used to be called like something else.
What did they used to be called?
Do you remember Adam?
You were the sound guy.
Yeah, I do not remember.
They were called something else.
I picked this because it felt like the budges the obvious answer.
I know the watches used to be called gear.
Gear, Galaxy Gear Live or something.
Oh, is that it?
Yeah, earbuds.
Galaxy Gear Buds.
As far as I'm aware, they've always been Galaxy Buds.
Oh, it's the beginning.
Gear icon X.
Oh, yes.
that's what it was.
Yeah.
The Icon X.
The fold came out on February 20th, 2019.
I remember that.
The Galaxy Buds came out on March 8th, 2019.
Oh.
But the Galaxy Gear icon X.
Well, that wasn't what I was asking about.
Yeah.
It's fine.
I didn't want any points anyway.
Worked out for you then.
Yeah.
Nailed it.
The race is on.
I feel like we need to do a trivia extravaganza soon.
We really do.
The points aren't that high, though.
It's just been a long time.
Yeah, because your questions are really, really hard.
Are they?
Yes.
We never get points anymore.
Honestly, the fact that Marquez got the Excavator one.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Probably we should have just ended this.
My only thing.
I think he deserved to win.
That's true, yeah.
I think that's my only point.
At this point, we've written hundreds of trivia questions.
Like, I'm doing the best I can.
Anyway, yeah, thanks for watching.
Thanks for listening.
Like I said, get subscribed because you already know that next week.
We've got to talk about all the stuff that gets announced then.
Of course, the reviews are coming in the stuff that came out this week.
hype us because somehow
you still can.
YouTube definitely forgot about that.
They apparently did not hard code that.
Yeah, yeah, you can just hype channels
with over 500.
They were like, this isn't going to work at all.
No one under 500 is getting over 500.
Hey, we did it.
And we're still hyping ourselves.
That's amazing.
So yeah, hype.
See on the hype train.
See next week.
See you later.
Wait, form is produced by Adam Alina
and Ellis Rovin and partner with Vox Media Podcast Network
and our show after music was created by Vainzil.
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