Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Samsung Galaxy Z TriFold is here fr fr on God

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

We're back with a super long episode this week! First, Marques unboxes a special birthday present before we get into the Samsung Galaxy Z TriFold videos that dropped this week. Then it's all about all of the new features that are coming to Android and Pixel phones. After that, we go over YouTube Recap and Spotify Rewind before closing it out with trivia. Enjoy! Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Links: Verge - AI clickbait article SuperSaf - Samsung Galaxy Z TriFold video Mrwhosetheboss - Samsung Galaxy Z TriFold video Computerphile - The Problem with timezones video Google - Android Feature drop Verge - DJI Osmo 4 Pocket launch update This episode brought to you by: Code Rabbit: www.coderabbit.ai/mkbhd LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/mkbhd Shopify: www.shopify.com/waveform Zapier: www.zapier.com/wave T-Mobile: www.tmobile.com/switch Monarch Money: www.monarch.com (code: wave) Music provided by: Epidemic Sound Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Turn it all the way up. I hate H-G-R. Yeah, what is up? People of the Internet. Welcome back to another episode of the Wayform podcast. We're your host. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew.

And it's your birthday. Nice. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Marquez. Today is, as of the day of recording, my birthday. My 32nd birthday. And what's your listening age, by the time? Yeah, we'll get to that way.

My Spotify wrapped seems to agree. Yeah, so in this episode, we have kind of a lot, actually, to go through. A bunch of stuff, for some reason. All happened this week in the first half of the week. Very convenient for us to talk about it on the pod. Galaxy Z trifold, for real, for real this time. Tons of Android features. YouTube also finally did the thing.

You know what I'm talking about. YouTube, we run. Yeah. Actually, yeah, I miss it. I miss it. also we're going to wrap it up with our waveform creators wrap to see how many of you continue to listen to us. So that's what we're going to do.

K-pop. I also had K-pop on my Spotify rack. So in case you nice to ask you. All right. K-pop demon hunters. Well, it is your birthday, and we thought we'd open this episode with, Adam, could you grab us that? We got you a little present.

We know it's hard to get something for the man who has everything. But last week, you told us there was something you didn't really understand. stand so we thought it would be a perfect time to get you that thing and see if you can live the magic of live the magic and then we'd also be curious as the greatest tech reviewer on earth the greatest product reviewer on earth because if you could give a brief review like a you know instant stream of unboxing this must be a booboo there's can you please explain almost no way it's not well i just think you'd have the ability to make it crystal clear what a lububu is for everyone else.

Wow. Way to ruin the surprise. Do a hands-on review. All right, I'll unboxes. I'll unwrap this. And it is, in fact, I'm pretty sure this is Labibu. It doesn't say Labubo anywhere, is that a nickname? It doesn't say Labuobu on it. Oh, it doesn't? I've also

never witnessed this happen. It says it's, well, it says, did you get a knockoff, fellas? No, I did not get a Lafoooo. Well, is, what is Laboo? They're blind boxes. Is that like what people call it as a... No, it's the real name. That is, in fact, a Lubbubu.

It doesn't say it anywhere. I think people already know what it is. It says, Exciting Macron, the Monsters, Vinyl Face, Pop Mart. It doesn't say Labibu anywhere, but here's a box. It's a colorful box. It's got pastel colors. So it's a blind box, so you can get any of those ones on the side. And there is like an extremely rare one, right?

We all know he's going to pull it. In this series, the extremely rare one is a one out of 12 chance. The rest of them are one out of six. Got it. So there's six of them on the side, and then one secret one, that's a one out of 12. So it's exactly twice as rare, or half as common. I will open it. No, that's not.

In RuneScape drop rate, that's fantastic. It's in a bag now. How do you feel that bag? He also does not say Labibu. It says exciting, like, Ron. I'm actually starting to wonder why people call these Labo. I thought they had like a tear thing on the end. This has like a sticker on the top that feels like it got tampered with already.

I went to the Pop Mart store in World Trade and purchased this. Smells kind of artificial. Smells kind of like a carpet. Okay. So this is, beige. I'm going to go based on colors. I believe there's a card in the bag that tells you what, in the blind bag. Oh, my God.

It's ugly. It's pretty cute. this card this is very like patagonia jacket colored yeah beige uh i got toffee it says oh okay so one of the middle normal rarity ones toffee is i think that's the color too uh so it's a little furry character with um it's it has like regular hands and feet and the face but then the rest is completely covered by fur uh it's got a keychain on the top so you could pitch your keys on this. Oh, shit.

Are you going to do that for the rest of the day? We would be very hurt if you wouldn't, if you don't put your keys on this. I actually don't carry any keys with me. So I will not have any keys to put on this, but it is a nice little key chain, I will say. And it says the monsters on it. So at no point anywhere does anything say Labu-Boo. I'm also good. The exciting macaron thing is that's this one's like a series, right?

Oh, yeah, but there are no. I don't macaroons. Well, I believe all of the colors are references. Oh, it's a macaron color. Or flavors, perhaps. I don't know. I think it's just macaron colors. Toffee.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I think audio listeners love that section. Yeah. I cannot say I understand any of the hype, but it is a pretty unique looking character. How's the build quality would you say? Yeah.

It feels, so it's kind of like a bobblehead. It feels like I could rip the head off. I don't want to. I'm not going to. But it kind of doesn't. Doesn't it feel, doesn't it look like I could, look at it how small the neck is? It's pretty malleable. I'm just saying.

I think that's good build quality that they're confident enough in a tight neck. Can I feel it? Yeah. Here, you can try it. Happy birthday. Yeah. Happy birthday. I know you love your presence so much and we'll never get rid of it.

Thank you. Thank you. It's funny. On the tag, they have a little area to cut it. Nice. That's smart. You should cut it off because it takes up like a lot of the space. You'll lose resale value.

Honestly, decent build quality is it soft is something I should be thinking about very soft not anymore no right already opened it

this is just a normal mass produced product that everyone can buy I can find the resale value okay there's no way it's high that's soft

how much actually is a luboo or whatever it depends on how rare it is about $30 on this whoa you spent this was

this was to be fair a corporate card purchase it was it was for the podcast We forgot it was your birthday. Which maybe makes this worse, but we wanted to do it just for the pod. And then it happened to land on your birthday.

Research, research. There was a mint green human-sized Labuba that sold for $170,000. Mint, green, but that's like a one-of-one human-sized one. Yeah. I feel like these are just regular stuffed animals. Yeah. Yeah, but they're creepy. Collectible.

With, like, a unique face that is. Like, remember the trolls? Do you remember the trolls? Yeah. With the long weird hair. Yep, yep. It's not different. Yeah.

Everything is the same. I agree. I'm gonna. Nice. Oh, we live in a circular society. Oh, perforated, nice. Yeah. Well.

It does seem that Toffee sells on eBay for slightly more than it was paid for in the blind box. So how easy was it for you to walk in and buy this in the blind box? That easy. I walked into the Pop Mart store and grabbed one of the blind boxes and took it to the register. and are we past the major hype of these of like getting the hardest the hardest part of the whole thing was that the corporate card does not have a tap chip and i had to actually physically insert it um i do believe we i don't know if we're necessarily past the hype as much as every single thing is a recession indicator yeah um but uh there there were more than four blind boxes available for purchase in the nyc oculus pop mart store yeah Yeah, nice perforated box, nice perforated tag, good build quality. I have no idea how much you spent, but without looking at the receipts on the corporate card, I'm going to, that's what I was going to guess, $30. Yeah, it was, I think before tax, it was like 28 and after tax, it was like 31.

Would you describe that as an experience worth $31? I can tell that this is not about the physical product at all because it's not impressive at all. It's definitely more about this social plug-in and, like, relating to other people who got one and, like, the Pokemon card opening type of experience. It's, like, not really about the thing. It's more about the stuff around the thing, the aura, the aura. The aura. Are you farming right now? This thing is for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. We've blessed this episode with Lubu-Boo aura. Yeah. To everyone that begged me to buy Marquezza Labubu after last week's episode, you know who, you are you're welcome you made this happen well happy birthday thank you uh i have another birthday gift for you oh that is a segue it's more dystopian bull-hs nice okay so this is actually this is actually a birthday gift for ellis um okay Ellis yes I know how much you let you love AI

overview I know that and when I said that that Labibu sold for $170,000 at auction it was an AI Overview answer. It might be a lie. I'm not sure. But because I know how much you love AI overview, I've got a really fun new headline for you, which is, in the Google Discover feed on some phones, you know, the thing where you swipe over to the left, notably, my friend actually liked the articles that were being served to her because they were about chimpanzees. They are now experimenting with using AI to replace the headlines with like four word headlines and it's going about as well as you would expect. This sounds like when Apple tried to summarize notifications and it just went horribly. Yes, yes.

So here are some of the summarized headlines. PC Gamer. Baldersgate three players exploit children. Not what the article was about. Do you know what the article was about? No. And like, if I type that in. I wasn't about that.

I think I found the article. I think I did too. It's about how Baldersgate three players have discovered that since kids are not killable in the game, they could control an army of them to make the game very easy. But they're virtual children. Maybe that's not that far off. Extremely far off. Virtual children, that's true.

Very different from real children. All right, here's another one. Chee 2 slows older pixels. I have no idea with that. that can't use Che2 on an older pixel is it that she too is oh yeah she two is on the newest pixel not the older pixels uh from the verge Microsoft developers using AI nice to be fair that does narrow down or I should click this article huh uh ars technica steam machine price revealed it was not it was well no it was not actually revealed I know that's

Correct. PC Gamer, schedule one farming backup. Probably a farming simulator headline of some sort. It's this like crazy game where you're like a, you like grow drugs and sell drugs in this town. And like you can like experiment with it and feed it to the like people around the town and they get like, they'll like vomit on the street. It was this crazy game that for like a month had a ton of. of hype so there must have been uh not the sims quite but yeah it's like drugs drug dealer simulator pretty much i'm getting flashbacks to sim city and actually one of my favorite games of all time that i almost guarantee none of you played which is called sidmyers civilization sim golf and you

could build a golf course and a business around that golf course and you had to lay it out you got you bought a plot of land this is the most market Yeah, you bought a plot of land and you had to buy a plot based on how hilly it was or a flat it was and how malleable, hell rocky, or whatever, and then you start building and it costs a certain amount, and you start off with a three-hole golf course, a little pitch of putt, and then you destroy things, and you add new holes, and you build a nine-hole course, and an 18-hole course. You build a whole business out of it until you have, and then you build a golfer as well. God, and the soundtrack to this game was so good.

This is the ideal Marquez video game. Yeah, I put a lot of hours into that game. Yeah, I'm remembering it. Dang. Wow. incredible good times well anyway last one uh from pc games and AI tag debate heats because they're just trying to use like as few words as possible

I feel like the funniest thing about AI stuff is they're like we're gonna pull all this stuff from articles that we didn't write you know into AI overviews and stuff and give terrible credit towards it and now they're like do know what else we could do better than them even though they're doing all of it in the first place rename their headlines like dude everyone online we are people like this is like a title is extremely important i think the people writing these articles know how important the titles are and that some garbage blackbox lLM is going to do it better than google forced this industry to be developed like google forced the SEO industry there are conferences there are expos that people go to

to talk about search engine optimization and now google's like We don't care that you did that. We're just going to, like, randomly mess with it now. Yeah, that is not my favorite future. Yeah. It just feels like I've never worked at a tech company. I don't really understand how things go on in there, but it just sort of feels like someone woke up some morning,

some like VP middle manager type person. I was just like, man, I haven't given anyone any new ideas in like a month. I got it. I got to think. I got it. Well, AI, the headlines. Yeah. I know we've already made all the videos and images slop.

Yeah. Let's make the headlines slop now. Anyway, the Verge did reach out to Google about this, and their official statement was, we are testing a new design that changes the placement of existing headlines to make topics easier to digest before they explore links from across the web. I want articles to be harder to digest by just the title. Literally.

And I want you to have to click it and go into it. The more you still is, the more you flatten an idea, the more it's going to be misinformation spread across the internet. It's one of the best things Twitter has ever done, which was the... Please read this before you share it. Yeah, before you retweet it, it's like, are you sure you want to? Because you could still read the article. That actually is one of my biggest gripes about AI overview just in Google is

I can read it and be like, okay, that is exactly what I'm looking for. I just want to double check it because it's an AI overview. And then you click the link and then it shows like three articles that I possibly pulled that from. I just want to be like, I just want... Which one? Where did this quote come from? Yeah. This would actually be helpful.

Because it is right some of the times. And when it's... I just want to make sure it's right, because I will never take it at face value. Yeah. And it makes that part really hard. That's my biggest frustration. Well, hopefully people will hate this as much as I do,

and they will not end up shipping this full time. Because it's just an experiment right now. How long until this comes to YouTube? And we don't have to think about titles anymore. That would hit so much harder for me. Because, like, I... the packaging is part of the product in and that's like a generic statement about like every industry and every product but also with articles like the headline and the opening like in the newspaper this is true and now about online articles the packaging is a part of the product and for us videos the thumbnail and the title even though you can ab tested or whatever it's still very true that the packaging is a part of the product it leads you in the thumbnail sometimes is the opening scene of the video things like that for AI to just gobble the that up and summarize it.

Like, we've seen that go poorly so many times, which is no way that that works well. I think for people listening to us or even maybe in our shoes sometimes, it feels like it hits harder for if they took this to YouTube because it's so much easy to be personal on seeing a face. But, like, we probably know some of the people that wrote these articles. This is, like, 9 to 5 Google, this is Verge. You just put an article on the Verge. Like, this could have been yours up there that you took time to doing.

We know people at 9 to 5 Google, Android, everywhere. And, like, these are actual people that think the same way we do. It's just a written form and you don't see their face. You guys are stuck in the past, man. You're stuck in the past. Don't you realize that all Google's doing, they're lowering the barrier to entry, bro. It's like, what if you really want to be a journalist, but, like, you're really bad at writing and you don't want to learn how to write?

Now you can just have the AI do it for you, dude. What if you want to review a phone, but you just don't have the phone. It's just like AI can just see how the phone's doing online. Get with the Times, guys. Like, you should be able to do anything without trying and give Google money in the process. There was a part of my brain that was, like, trying to reason with, like, the old skill that we had growing up was we wanted to find information on the internet. So we had to learn how to Google something. Yeah, SEO language.

And, not only that, then, like, how to navigate the top couple links to figure out, like, which sources you trust and, like, how to gather the information to find. find the answer. Yeah. And over time, that became, like, the established thing that we all had to learn. And now there's kids growing up where they're going to Google something and they have to have a totally different mindset about how to find the right answer to their question, which is going to involve, like, a lot of times looking at an AI overview and then, like, clicking all of the links that it references and, like, gathering that together.

I don't know. Like, I want them to also have some sort of process that they can trust to find reliable answers to questions on the internet. and it's definitely going to be different today versus how we grew up 10 years ago. But, yeah, it just doesn't seem like it's better. What Google wants is they want to make an answer engine, not a search engine.

They want you to be able to just type a natural language question into a box and it just tells you that you don't have to go to a website. It just wants to be like the answer to everything in one little... Which is fine, but then let me go one level deeper. But it's not fine. No, if I... Nobody's going to make the information.

If I Google like, okay, Samsung Trifold, I don't mind them taking the top 10 articles summarizing it and being like, this is a thing that happened. But I should be able to click that and see all the actual articles. Like, give me the answer, sure. But then when I click it, just pop up. Yeah, but I just think like the lowest common denominator is people generally are not going to go to those articles. You are because you grew up in an era of skepticism. It's kind of like commoditizing surface level knowledge.

So it lets you like speed run the beginning of learning about something into the middle. Like at the beginning of like, let's say we know nothing about what do we know nothing about. Lemurs, whatever, like Labuboos, right? Yeah, the first, the first four or five Googles of me trying to figure out what Lubbos are in 2003, where like, what does the word mean, where do they come from, and like figuring out all the stuff, and like going to Wikipedia and reading a bunch of stuff. Now the first four to five Googles is just giving me an AI answer where I just go, what is a Lubu, and it has the OAA overview, and then I Google, why are they so popular, and it gives me an AI

overview, and then I just read the first three or four, and now I've just speed run all of the like probably very useful understanding to just getting the high level stuff and to Google that's a success for them because they keep you Googling and that's great well that's true yeah that's true in everything that they're making I mean even with uh anti gravity with the coding stuff it's like yeah you speed run learning how to code yeah you you're you're understanding the very very high level things of like oh I need a Google Maps API key it told me that but it did it for me so I don't know how to implement it. You don't know what that means or how it did it or why it did it or what it means to do that again or improve upon it. You just know that you did it. Right.

Tough. Not great. Not, not better. Not fantastic. Definitely not better. Um, well. Man, you sound old on your birthday. I know. Oh, these kids. New title, old man yells at cloud. I feel like old man yelling at cloud, but I do think there is some. Yeah, the cloud, literally. I just want to throw out there without getting to. Too late. Yeah, without getting too late. We're all in. It's just like, you know, there's all this talk in the United States about how, about China's

censored internet. You know what I mean? And how crazy it is that you can't Google certain things or certain information is just unavailable to you in certain countries, you know? And, you know, when we live in the world where there's just an answer machine and there's no transparency as to where it gets its answers from, that's the same thing. That's, that's exactly the same thing. All of a sudden, you could be like, what's Google Plus?

And Google could be like, there's no such thing as Google Plus. We've never done anything. That's stupid. You know, and then there'd be no way to fact check that. And that's... We do ask it for sources. Like when they sort of start to put the... They sprinkle the links in now for where...

You can clear that right now, there are sources in all of this. And it also is the top of a Google search where you can scroll past it and all of the normal links in it. Also, eventually all of these companies do want what David's describing. Like a text bot that does not take you to any other places. I'm just making sure we all, right now that is not the situation we're in. Yeah. It's where we're going, though. That's where we're heading.

It's the direction we're pointing. It doesn't mean we have to go all the way. It's definitely the direction we're pointing. No, but that's like we've already seen it with Grockapedia. You know, that's literally the entire point of Grogapedia. I don't take GROC seriously in the lease. Side note, I found it. You have to click the little icons and it shows you all the articles.

the little little little tiny button that you have to remember if that's there no that button's the thing I don't like about on browser is it's like I wish it just brought me to the exact article but it's usually when you click it I'm clicking it at the end of a sentence which probably should be just a sentence from an article and then it shows me like three articles so now I have to go back and find it in there like it should direct me to the sentence in the article I feel like and that would actually make it useful because then in one minute it can be true or false and I can confirm, and it did actually help you search. And so does AI overview.

If you click on us. No, AI, I'm talking about AI over. Like, it has the link, and then it shows me three articles by the sentence, and then I have to go find it. Like, it should just show me the article that it brought me to. In Gemini, when it shows you sources on the side, if you click one of the sources, it automatically brings you to the part, and it highlights it, too, where it took the information from.

I wonder if we are in different stages of AI over, because my AI overviews do that, too. Like, when I click on the little chain, it'll take me to the, the exact sentence in the article. Yeah, I just did that as well. It's still wrong most of the time. Yeah, I just Googled Sid Meier's Golf release date and the AI overview is correct. And then I click on it and it says it's pulling from Wikipedia and a fandom.

Oh, and it is correct. And it's correct. Nice. Yeah, that's good. Wikipedia is correct. So that was easy for them. That's true. Well, I looked up the millie-amp hour battery life of a phone that I'm going to ask you about

a trivia later and it linked to the Wikipedia thing. and it just made up a number. It leads to... Is the Wikipedia right? No, no. The Wikipedia number was right. But the number it gave me an AI overview, despite linking and highlighting the number of Wikipedia,

was a different number. Wow. Nice. All right. Well, I have something positive to talk about. Really? Have you ever wanted to consume YouTube shorts, TikTok, and Instagram Reels at the exact same time?

With three different scrolls happening in three different rates? Do I have a phone for you? You ever wanted to watch Quibi, Tube, and Phoebe at the same time? Bring back Quibi. Samsung. Too early. Too early. Galaxy Z trifle.

Z trifle, baby. We finally got an announcement. We were waiting for this. They were saying by December, they technically did it December 1st. Yeah. So to be clear, we got some information. Yeah. We didn't get a price yet.

No. But we got to see the device. Oh, we did. Korean price. And we got to see the device in action. There's a couple of YouTube videos out about it now and some specs, and we can see how it folds. So there's the single display, and then there's the unfolding, the inside for the triple display. Explain how it folds to audio listeners.

Okay, so picture one of those pamphlets, one of those trifold pamphlets, right, where you have like a left, a right, and a middle, and just go ahead and fold the left and the right over each other. So you have a single column. that single column is a six and a half inch screen single screen setup and then you open both at the same time and you have a 10 inch tablet on the inside. So there is no like two screen version because

there's only a single or a try but it's like one of those pamphlets you know like a map. Like a map. Yeah like a map. Yeah like a map or like I'm thinking of like the souvenir shop and like a at the zoo. Like a brochure. A brochure. Thank you. Yeah. That's what I'm picturing. They should call

Should have just called it the Samsung Galaxy Zs brochure. Yeah, so TRIFLE. Z brochure. So this phone will have a Snapdragon 8 Elite for Galaxy, which is the last chance. It's not the 8 Elite Gen 5, but Snapdragon 8 Elite for Galaxy. It will be, like I said, 6.5 inches on the front, 1080p, 120 hertz ammo lead. It will be 10 inches 16 by 11, 120 hertz, 2160 by 1584. Which feels low resolution?

A little low, a little low. But I think that will work hand in hand with its 5600 million-amp hour total battery, which is not huge. It's a 10-inch screen, so I think having less pixels will be better for battery life. We're spoiled. Triple cameras, you have a 200-megapixel main camera. Seems like a flagship camera. Haven't tested it myself yet, but that's a good sign.

Also, a 12-migixel ultra-wide and a 10-megapixel 3-X telephoto, which to which a lot of people replied to my tweet, how will a 10-migixel 3-X telephoto be better than punching in on the 200-magixel primary camera? to which I replied, eh, I don't know. The optics and the lens of the 3X telephoto could make it feel better than the crop on the primary. The photo sites are much larger on a 10 megapixel. Yeah, so maybe in lower light, it will be better.

So we'll see. Yeah. We'll see. Ironically, because usually the telephoto is the worst at low light. Exactly. Titanium hinge, aluminum body, IP48 rating, and all the way unfolded, it's all the way down to 3.9 millimeters.

Just the thinnest Samsung phone they've ever made, even thinner than the Fold 7. I don't know if you realize how thin three millimeters is. Like when we talk about the thinnest phones that we've seen so far, we're in the range of five to six millimeters. And those are, that's like iPhone Air, that's the S25 Edge. Those are five millimeter phones. 3.9 millimeters is crazy thin. I haven't held this yet. That's true.

But watching the videos, it seems crazy. And to fit like meaningful compute and battery and storage and all that in this. phone is genuinely impressive well it's funny though because then when it's folded it's apparently stupid thick right so like this doesn't even feel like a normal phone yeah exactly folding this thing up is going to be its weak point it's going to feel like a chunk like a 12 13 millimeter thick phone yeah which you guys probably haven't used a phone that thick in many years but unfolded is is kind of the point big chunker unfolded it's yeah it's it's 4.2 the fold 7 was 4.2 So it's slightly thinner than the fold seven.

Yeah, which is crazy. The first iPhone was 11.6 millimeters thick. Yeah, this is the thicker than that. This is thicker than that. It does do 45 watt wired charging, which is kind of surprising for something that thin. I'm curious about the heat dissipation. Yeah, what kind of heat dissipation? What kind of...

Three millimeters thick you can't have very much. Yeah. 309 grams, it's very heavy. The Z Fold 7 was 250. So just add another third to that as you would everything kind of steps up in thirds right 200 something grams for the dual screen the battery capacity did not quite step up in third true true true yeah price did so what was the price so okay people are expecting this to cost $2,800 that's about the conversion rate from from the Korean price okay which a $3,000 phone but think about it

You have a 10-inch tablet in your pocket now. Yeah, I know. I can get an iPad and an iPhone. But then you'd have to carry an iPad that you can't fold up and an iPhone. What if you could get an iPad and a MacBook? What they need next is they need to make some sort of like omega-thin keyboard and mouse. Because the whole point for me for this is that I can just have a little laptop in my pocket at all times. Interesting.

Like a 10-inch laptop. Yeah. You can use, obviously, a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with it, and it has decks. I would like to see your decks, Adam. Yeah, now Adam's in. Okay, I'm all in. Wait, can I? I have this huge screen so I can plug it into a bigger screen?

No, but can I, like, fold it so that two of the screens are a screen and the third screen is... You can't. You can't. You can't. But it does have a really interesting form of decks. So there's the traditional decks where you plug it into a monitor, and then you can use it as a second display and it's like a 10 inch second display so it's pretty big but it also has a on device dex mode where you enable decks mode and it becomes basically like the tablet where

everything all apps become windowed so you can just like throw apps around instead of it you know taking up the full screen they're all windowed so it's sort of like what happens when you attach a pixel to a display and it becomes like the the android on computer type thing but it's just on your phone as a little tablet other cool thing you can make app groups with it now so you can make it so two to three windows always open up at the same time in certain um orientations so if you're always like working on google docs on one and then you've got youtube on another and you've got another thing on another you can pin that to your task bar and when you click it opens all of them at once in the same positions perfect which is very cool adam isering ah on the inside yeah i don't

Yeah, so there was a Mr. Who's the Boss video that went out about this that was like probably the first video that went out. I think maybe him and Super Soft put the same video at the same time. Aaron said that the inner glass is so soft that he leaned it against a vase, which I don't know what kind of vase he was looking at, but it's it produced very deep gouges in the screen by leaning it against a vase. I mean, it's that like soft screen where like, I mean, we've seen fingernails. that kind of stuff, produce, like, dense. So I guess weight of phone, plus leaning on a thing for a shot, I'm guessing, is... But, like, deep gouges? Yeah, that's...

I mean, like, yeah. Red flag. It's kind of spooky. It kind of... It gives me Galaxy Fold 1 vise. I was thinking the same thing. Like, this is a super, super limited thing. This is two YouTubers who got to, like, play with it hands-on in Korea, and that was it.

And it'll slowly start to show up later, I'm sure. But there's the type of thing where it's so expensive and it's so limited that they probably aren't going to have the masses really approaching this thing and they can kind of handle the crazy crisis stories better than maybe the first fold which was everyone getting excited and then a bunch of YouTubers trying it and then a bunch of people breaking it. Yeah. We think it's any different from the fold screen? Like why would the material have to be different? It is different. I think because of both folds and folds in I guess the same direction. I should. I mean it's like still only a hundred degrees fold. But it doesn't matter. I think it doesn't matter. I think it

does. I think the key to like when, so we saw this with a razor, right? So they had this like little piece of the chin where when you unfold it, it would slide a little bit more screen out because when it folds, it like pulls it up and when you unfold it, it stretches it over that crease. But that's, why would that make a difference in what the material is rather than just how much room it has to move? The razor is just it gave itself more room to do that. Right. Well, all these songs have some level of stretching over the crease to flatten it out. I'm saying when you have two creases you have to stretch it twice as much and so you probably need to do accomplish that in the same amount of room you have to make it softer yeah so it stretches

you have more total malleable yeah not just that but like the when you like when you fold the screen you're you're applying tension like because the screen is being stretched out right that tension is then dissipated over the entire rest of the screen it's not like there's like a hard wall where the screen is clamped somewhere and the rest of the screen is not under tension, but right next to the crease. So when you have two creases, there's now way less room for that tension to dissipate. You're applying all of that force into a much smaller area. Yeah.

Well. I went to music school. I don't know if I believe any of you. I'm picturing because the first fold, the issue that they mostly dealt with was that layer that they put on top of the soft glass was like not close enough to edge and people would pull it off. Well, yeah, we pulled it off. But like that, they have to put that.

on top because that is harder and when you have that fold unfold that hard layer on top is essentially eliminating the crease like we've seen some get really close to having no crease now but i just feel like this one i mean if you've seen the video there's a ton of crease in these and it's inherently not as hard because it has to stretch twice instead of once uh yeah intuitively it makes sense my brain i can't really explain it very well but i guess that's tbd on how durable this actually is. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Cool. Perfect. Maybe it's because you're 32. Maybe that's why. It's also IP48

is kind of crazy. It's not yeah, it's not great. It can withstand one millimeter or larger particles. Yeah, the dust part, I'm not expecting much. I'm a little worried about that. But the 8 is full submersion, no?

Like one meter or something? Yeah. I can dunk this underwater. I mean, that's more about the seals. They know the dust will break it before it goes into water so at that point. Exactly. It's funny because I'd be more worried about larger particles because... Dude, you don't want to see my pockets.

I mean, like, folds generally... What goes on in there? I wouldn't want to be in there. I feel like fold generally the issue is not that it's getting inside, but that, or inside the hinges, it's that it's getting inside when it folds. So now you fold it once and you have a particle in it, and now you fold it again and smash the particle in, even more.

Yeah. So now every piece that's inside your screen gets closed twice. And... And if it's... If it's on the second one, so it's either getting in between two screens and fold it again or one side folds in and then it's between a screen and a hard piece, which means it's not getting absorbed by both sides. It's only getting absorbed by the screen side. For those that don't remember, the Galaxy Fold 1, the screens were breaking immediately

and they had to do a little recall before they actually sold the devices and then they put a screen protector on it or whatever. I don't know, man. I feel like they would have learned their lesson by now, so I'm going to, like, look at this with optimism. I tweeted this phone out. It feels sketchy to me. It definitely does. I ended my tweet with, like, you know what? Shout out to Samsung for being insane enough to try this.

Because they don't have to try this. Well, they did try it. Try. Yeah, try. I got it. But, yeah, they are crazy enough. Thanks. One thing I thought was cool was, so in order to fold it, unfold.

fold it, the screen that has the camera on is actually a little bit wider than the other two screens. So it creates kind of a lip. So as you're holding in your hand, you can press your thumb down on that lip to then pop the first fold open. And then when that happens through a magnet, the interior screen kind of opens up a little bit, which gives you then a lip to pull it open. Isn't the front screen that has the lip? No, it's the back screen. Oh, it's the back screen. So you can kind of like hold it open. And then that part pops up a little. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a neat way of doing that because if you're just digging your fingernails into it to open it up every time, it's probably not great. Yeah.

So it comes with a case, and the case has a little kickstand on it. Back to the kickstand phones. Thank God we back. That's nice because you're going to be able to use a mouse and keyboard with it. It also comes with a 45 watt charger, at least where it's on sale right now. Chee two? I don't think it has Chee two. It does have wireless charging, but it's 15 watt, so I don't think it's Chi two.

So it's coming out in Korea earlier, but it is launching in the U.S. in Q1 of 2026. Pretty incredible. I'm going to work to try to get my hands on this thing. I'm very curious about it. The Huawei Matexte was a fascinating phone, but at no point would I, like, buy one or recommend one to anyone. We can't write Google services on it. Yeah.

But even just, like, as a hardware concept, it was, like, kind of insane. Yeah. This is Samsung. It's going to, like, really launch and really go on sale. Yeah. Real people are going to be able. to buy it. So I'm just curious to see how this goes.

I'm going to try and see what kind of usability that actually kind of wheels for people. It is ironic that the Huawei Matexte actually folded like a Z. And this is called the Z tri-fold, but this folds like a U. Like a, yeah. Like a G when it's fully folded. Yeah, it's true, like a G.

Yeah. Like a G. Six, seven. Jesus. Don't do this. Your joke age is 12. Guys, we... The life of a meme.

Every year, we inch closer and closer to hell. To Crumple Phone. Hey, not wrong. Can I share something someone sent on Discord about the TriFold, that was funny? This guy, Elliot, on our Discord, said, Samsung TriFold inboxes are out. I showed my grandma a video, and she said, I'm getting better at spotting AI.

That one was pretty obvious. To which I say, kudos grandma. I'm glad you're really. looking for AI. I'd rather you err on that side, honestly. I would say that the AI is probably more prominent for more people than foldable phones are. Oh yeah. So it would make sense that she had just never seen a foldable phone. I'd rather her live not knowing there's folding phones and be very wary of AI. Although remember that granny in the in the airport that I saw with the the foldable phone? Do you think this granny knows more about the Applevision Pro or the steam deck? I can ask. I'll ask. He'll

Probably listening to this episode. Probably neither, man. There's probably Vision Pro in the store she bought the phone in. Did she go in, though, or did she just have her daughter, her daughter buy it for her? I think people go to stores in the U.S. A granny, though? Yeah. Dude, grannies love dinosaurs.

That's true. Dinosaurs? Stores. No, the dinosaur experience that comes with, the only thing the Vision Pro does. Oh. Wow, most exciting product of the year, huh? That's why I said it was the steam deck. And still more than the steam deck.

I'm standing on it. Oh, yeah. That was obvious. is anyone who disagreed with us is a morrow. ChatGPT was the correct answer. It was the most boring answer. We were thinking of physical gadgets.

All right. Well, we got a lot more to talk about soon. We were going to put it in this section, but I feel like we should move it to the next section. So maybe let's throw it to trivia. And then we got a ton of Android features to talk about after that. Let's do it.

So please don't leave retention. Guys. 3,600. How did you know? That's just a shot in the dark. Nah, I'm just kidding. How many seconds in a day? Guys.

What's that from? The office. It's a song. It's a song. It's a song. It's a song. It's a song. It's a song.

It's a song. Or is it in the heights. I can't know. No, it's rent. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. A few weeks ago, I asked if you wanted to do a question about socks or batteries and you guys

went with socks. And today, I'm going to finally get around to asking my dope-ass battery question. I was hoping for socks too. What was the sock question? It was about which sock is the cheapest or the most expensive. Oh, yeah. And it wasn't the iPhone sock or was it, I don't remember. Either way, guys, the new one plus 15, a fan favorite around the office.

I guess that doesn't make it a fan favorite, a favorite, a regular favorite, just regular old favorite. Marquez's favorite. Marquez's favorite. It has crazy battery life. Everyone knows this. But you know what does not have crazy battery life? Oh, this is iPhone 12 mini? My iPhone 12 mini.

Yeah. How many times larger in millie amp hours is the one plus 15's battery than my iPhone 12? Are we going decimals? Yeah. Yes, and we're going to do Delta. Okay. How many times larger? So you are encouraged to get as specific with decimal points as possible because it will likely.

And I'm going to add something here. no calculators well yeah we're doing long division today boys in your head you can do long division on the whiteboard

I have no idea how to divide these numbers make the house make the house make the house you don't square roots over here you guys rich or something

you're not long what were you hit with these rates you guys need to go back for second grade what were you born in 1948 it's been 20 years

since I'm manually divided numbers you know what honestly honestly real quick let's do a mini rapid fire trivia round. Okay. Which of the following is the

answer to a division problem? The dividend, the divisor, or the quotient? The quotient. I knew that. Yeah, I knew that. I didn't understand what I was. Devinend. Devisor. Dividend and divisor numerator. He's cooking. He's cooking. The quotient is the answer. Wait, okay. We had a question a couple weeks ago, and I was like, Marquez would know

what the difference is. And now you're here. Okay. What is the difference between an ocean and a sea? Didn't we talk about this on the podcast? Sea? Yeah. Well, he was gone. Yeah, he was gone that week. Oh.

A sea. I don't know that there's a formal... Oh, there is. I don't know if there's a formal difference. Oh, there is. I know that a lake is an enclosed body of water and that an ocean is not enclosed. I mean, it's closed by here. But a sea, is that different from an ocean?

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That's 50% off first year at Monarch.com with code Wave. All right, welcome back. We got a bunch of new Android drops. Kind of out of nowhere, they are trying to make Android drops much more frequent so that there's big platformer, like, instead of big platform releases where it's like Android 16, Android 17, There's just big new feature drops that come out through Android. Love it. And kind of out of nowhere, I believe it's yesterday as of time of recording, maybe two days ago.

We got a lot of new features. So we're just going to run through a lot of them. Some of them are Android wide and some of them are pixel drops. So it's kind of those like, oh, this is on pixel only maybe for now, maybe forever, but probably just for now. Kind of like airdrop. Kind of like AirDrop. Until it gets an iPhone only for only 15 years. Yeah.

So let's just go through this. circle to search scam detection upgrade to circle the search dope now you can circle a scam or what you think might be a scam which adam's mom apparently needs and it'll bring up a little thing that'll that guides you through why it may or may not be a scam it it references it against all known scams and then it'll tell you oh yeah this is a common scam that does this blah blah blah you know so this is great if it works yes because imagine you circle to search an actual scam but it's so new that it's not referenced yet for sure it's not a scam my other concern is that the people that will make the most benefit of this is the people that are not good at knowing what a scam is on their phone and that demographic probably also does not to use circle to search but they probably have a nephew that can be like hey real quick just circle to search by doing this one two step and it'll tell you i will say that i just did circle to search on the message that my mom sent me the screenshot of the obvious scam. And it said, if you were not expecting this message or do

not have a paid cloud subscription, it is likely a scam. So it does do it. It's also like people search scams all the time. I got a letter in the mail the other day that looked super official to where like it had three perforations where you tear it kind of like that usually means like check or it says open immediately. Yeah. Yeah. And it was. The funny thing was that initially got me is there was clearly a placeholder text in one part that it didn't change because I think it was supposed to know who my lender was and it just said

lender in bold when it just didn't replace it. But anyways, I searched the exact thing and just in Google's a million search results of like letter, same exact amount, same exact font. So like people search these. So it has the database to be able to find a lot of you can't circle search a letter. But I'm sure plenty of that

happens. You can use Gemini Live. I think it's huge. if it works, Facebook about to be real sad that all their scam things on Facebook aren't going to sell. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly. But yeah, what was it, like 10 to 30? Somewhere between 10 and 30% of their business,

allegedly might go down to. Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, because that many people are going to use Circle Search. I don't know about that. They watch them make it so Circle to Search can't work inside of Facebook. Oh, my God. Yes, I want to, these are, first of all, these are the Android-wide features for the,

phones that have these capabilities. Emoji Kitchen is getting new, expanded sticker combinations. Not useful. Wow. But fun. They're different people. I love emoji kitchen. It is fantastic.

You can make monkeys hug each other on emoji kitchen. That's the example they used. Cool. But I'm saying not useful. All right. Call reason. This is interesting. You can now mark a call as urgent so that when the other person is getting the phone call,

it will say it's urgent on the call. So that is useful because sometimes people call me while I'm busy and I'm like, I'm not going to answer right now. But if it did say urgent, I would pick up and be like, what's wrong? I can't wait to call Ellis at 3 o'clock in the morning with an urgent tag. And he goes, what? And I'll be like, you know nothing about C's. So the caller, just to be clear, the caller marks their own call is urgent. Yeah, so that the receiver sees an urgent tag.

Yeah, it'll have a little tag on it. This is urgent. I think it has to be Android. But then you can circle to search the call screen and... Is urgent the only tag? Yes. I would so much rather have one that says not urgent. So when I call my mom and she doesn't pick up, when she sees that later, parents have to assume the worse about every single phone call.

So that can just be like, I just wanted to. Lane just wanted to say hi. Like, you don't have to stop everything you're doing to call me back. Well, I saw something online that was like, I mean, if you're calling me, instead of texting me, it's probably urgent. So there is that. They did call it call a reason and not like urgent call. So I'm wondering if they're planning on potentially adding more reasons later.

Like, did you pick up the groceries? I don't know. At this point, just sent a text, I guess. Yeah, yeah. I thought this was going to be just because this happened to me recently is I got a phone call from a number I didn't know. But rather than say probably spam, it just said potentially medical because it was, a new doctor I'd went to calling me back that I didn't have their number.

And I was like, whoa, wait, that's actually really useful. I never pick up calls that I don't know the number two. And since it didn't populate, I was like, oh, this is probably who I think it is. And it was. Right. There's a new safety check feature in Google messages. So if you've ever been added to a group chat in Google,

which you can now get added to in like Google messages, which is like usually it's like a Bitcoin group chat, like a thousand people in it. This happens in WhatsApp all the time. this is why WhatsApp is not very good has never happened to me but okay well telegram though

I never get telegram every other Tuesday do you pay the I pay for it anyway okay so now if you get added to one of these spam group chats it will identify that and it will immediately have a little pop-up that's like do you want to leave and report this immediately

so it just assumes that you can sort of identify when things are kind of spam spam group chats, which is nice. Chrome on Android is now getting pinned tabs. So if you're a big Chrome on Android person, you can now constantly have certain tabs that are always at the top of your tab groups.

That's actually nice. I like that. They're now expressive captions across videos. So when you're like watching captions on like YouTube or something, it will be like joyfully and then it'll put the caption, which is interesting. And they're like colored and it's trying to like help you understand the energy that's coming from.

from the speaker. Sarcasm and videos is going to get way funnier. That would be so useful sarcastically. Or just like it not understanding it. It's going to be like joyfully, but like Marquez is saying something super sarcastic about like a new feature on an iPhone. Yeah. So that's coming to YouTube across all devices like immediately, which is cool.

The guided frame feature, which is sort of the people with disabilities who cannot really like have trouble using their phone camera. speaks out to them and says like where to move it so that they can center on the thing that's getting a lot better um you can now tell jemini to make uh changes while you are voice typing so you can type out a message and if you decide you wanted to change something you say actually change the part that says this to this and it'll do that wow i would never that's the type of thing that i would like see my parents do and i'd be like stop you can't that doesn't work it doesn't and then just starts typing it starts typing what they were saying

Yeah. But the fact that it'll actually do that now would be kind of awesome. Stop. Like, so you write the whole, you speak the whole message out. Yeah. You have to then stop and then say, change this part. Or not completely sure. I think you can do it, I think you can do it fluidly.

Yeah, so can I be like- Identify when you're saying certain things. Hey, Marquez, I'm going to be a little late to work. Oh, way to erase that part. I'm going to be really late to work. Like, it will do that mid-sentence and not just type the whole thing out. I thought it already did that. maybe I don't I don't use textual specifically because the text of speech is really good

the text speech is really good but I haven't had I haven't been able to go back and edit parts of what I've already typed I think it's specific like key phrases that will trigger it like that like what you said Andrew it would actually do that actually wait actually like it'll go back and yeah yeah that's pretty awesome so that's pretty cool there's now better voice dictation that lets you edit certain words or shorten messages automatically and then there are also better parental controls that make it easier to be a parent, I suppose. Boo.

Boo. Boo. Lane. 32. Okay. We're adults. All of those are coming to all Android devices. Yeah, that's like the platform-wide.

And then there's Android 16 QPR to pixel drop. There's too many acronyms. Okay. Actually useful notification summaries. So now, allegedly, we'll see about that. Yeah, right, I'll be the check. So this is like a more thoughtful version of Apple's notification summaries.

If you either have a very long message or you have a notification from a group chat, it will summarize it. But then you can click the little drop-down menu and it'll just show you the whole thing. It'll also show you like the messages from the group chat in the little drop-down thing or it'll show you the whole message. But overall, it'll just summarize it if it's a super long message or if it's a group chat. So it doesn't do, like, all notifications. It's just, like, per app. It's... And, like, group messages.

Yeah, it's, like, in messages. This is going to hurt so much more when you get broken up with over a text message, and it's a really long, thoughtful thing. And then Google's just, like, chain into you. Well, there's that famous, like... Because you know how IMessage will do the, like, animations when you say certain words? There's, like, this famous screenshot where someone says, congrats, you threw away our entire relationship for a guy,

and it's got the streamers, yeah? on samson it's like the wacky waving like inflatable arm guy like it's tough okay there's notification organizer so now your notifications get separated into categories which is so useful so now it'll be like news it'll be like it'll be like offers that kind of stuff so you just I love that I think that's amazing

where is this in your notification shade so they're just turning into like Gmail kind of the old inbox that used to do that sort of like I mean like pre-made you can kind of think about it in a similar way okay your notifications are just your inbox your whole phone yeah basically yeah which is different types of stuff and it'll silence lower priority ones so that you don't have to deal with like random little offers and stuff like that which is nice they now have custom icon shapes so you don't have to just be circles anymore you can be like little weird x thing you can be like squircle yeah just different there's like a triangle one like a one that's like flat on the bottom but then like a half circle on the top very strange they're kind of just you know they're just they're leaning into the material you kind of a lot of other launches have this too so just like one more customization for your home yeah yeah uh expanded themed icons so before it was like you would you would theme all the icons but there would be of course like one or two apps that didn't support it and it looked

horrible now they truly will force it on every single app so it will work for every single app Are we sure? The amount of times I've heard, this will for sure work. It does work. But I will say it doesn't work in the drawer. The drawer is still just the regular. Yeah, which is. I'm a little, I'm more okay with that, but.

Yeah. There will be one icon that does not work somehow. Well, Doolingo famously changes its icon all the time. Really? It does have, like, it did work on Doolingo. So if it worked on Doolingo, I would imagine it works on everything else. Yeah. We did it.

We're here. There's now an option to force. dark mode on every app as well. So apps that don't have a dark mode, it'll basically just like invert the white colors to black. But it does it in a like smart dynamic way. You know what happened to me recently? I saw a screenshot on Twitter of Spotify light mode and I went, wait a minute. I've never seen Spotify light mode. And I actually went into Spotify and started digging through settings. I was like, is there actually a light mode in settings? I found that there is not. Somebody just inverted Spotify.

Oh. And it kind of looked decent. I'm sure album art looks weird, but yeah, there is no light modes for Spotify. Interesting. Yeah. I'm interested in this one because without that, I already have this issue where sometimes on my pixel, it decides that, so like the notification bar on the top that has my time and battery percentage, it won't invert that correctly with the mode of the app that I have

open. So let's say I have YouTube open and it's got a white background. it won't change the time and battery to now invert to black so now it's just fading into I showed you this the other day or sometimes yeah like it's supposed to be black text

and I have a dark mode thing and I just lose my battery percentage yeah because it disappears yeah and I'll close the app and open it back up and that'll fix it but like I have very little faith in this if it's already screwing up that normally yeah yeah

there's kind of just a lot of features that they announced a long time ago but they're like I swear it works now on God for real No cap, no cap. You have expanded split screen options to, like, have multiple apps up in, and now you can, you can, like, drag one to, like, show the amount that you want the app to be open. There's even a 90-10 split, so you can have an app open 10%, and then have the other app open 90%.

Just like a sliver of the top of the app. Yeah, you got your little app ticker. 90% waveform podcast, 10%. Homework notes, you should really be studying. exactly so that feels like they are putting it in it to prepare for more foldable stuff to be honest just to be able to be more more malleable in that way one of the biggest changes which adam actually posted about on threads you can now or no not on threads he posts about this in the slack you can now adjust the intensity which hdr content displays there's a slider now so it'll show

you like the brightness that the hdr content comes through dragging it all the way up Marquez. I'm dragging it all the way. That's what it was. I want to be scrolling with low brightness. And I want to see your picture on Instagram and just boom. Markes wants that flashbang in his bed. I want that impactful media.

I just want to turn it all off. Turn it all the way up. I hate H.GR. And then I wrote, think, think, below that. Okay. There is a new remove toggle when you're removing apps from your home screens. Now you don't have to like click and drag to the

the little like x in the top or bottom or whatever um when you like when you press on it there's just a little remove like like option so lots of other lunchers have that already also yeah it's faster yeah wait no just dragging it to this trash is faster i don't think so because you have to you have to like long press it and then drag it that's always been faster for me because there's always like five little there's like uninstall view info and then the short whatever shortcuts there are so it's a calendar event it would be like if it's if you long press on the calendar icon it'll show new event view calendar uninstall close remove and I have to find remove every single time so I just found that just highlighting and just dragging them to the trash is faster hmm Adam do you have this yet yeah it's

awesome it's just like um not smart launcher is there a change you could accidentally press remove can you show yeah it's you have to find it you long press the icon and it just pops up like one of the little options there is just remove So that's just a long press. Yeah, a bunch of other. That's one of those things where I'm going to love that, but when my mom tells me like, Facebook is off my phone,

it's like you probably accidentally long pressed and hit remove. Oh my God. I have to find remove. It's the top. It's the first one. I know, but it's in different place every time. Like in Instagram, it was, it's the top this time.

Things change. There is a new quick adding of app shortcuts in that same menu. This is awesome. Yeah. So, Adam, you want to explain that since you haven't on your phone? I have this. already and this is basically the same little gesture if you just like long press something certain apps have like quick functions you can do like for example du lingo if i long press will just say

do you want to open dalingo or do you want to like jump straight into a lesson so instead of always clicking dolingo always clicking to my most recent lesson i can do one of these app shortcuts and just hit do a lesson and it pops up as like a little shortcut on my like home screen so and i can remove the actual dillingo app and just have that there so i can just go straight into a lesson every time. That's nice. There's a bunch of other apps that like also have similar things like YouTube. You can jump straight into shorts if you want for some reason. You could jump into subscriptions. Wow. Of course they would add that. I know.

There's a reason I chose YouTube. But yeah, there's like a not all apps have this. I think it needs to be like implemented by the developer. But like the WNBA app, I just have it straight up to give me the schedule just like the games. Show me the next games. That's it. I don't need to go in through looking through the whole app. yeah it's pretty cool that's nice if instagram has a shortcut to go straight to reels we just brought back IGTV that's essentially what it was yeah yeah there's a separate app just too really yeah um okay there's a new widgets view so if we remember android only decided to care about widgets again after apple started doing widget stuff but better because they hadn't updated them

since like 2012 now there's a very rich widget showcase that has two little options there is featured tab and there is a I wrote it done here where is it yeah featured tab I'm sorry there's a featured tab and there is a browse tab the featured tab will show like the richest most fun most interesting widgets that it assumes you want to use and then the browse will just like kind of showcase all the widgets what's nice about it is that it's rich so it shows them sort of moving and doing the things that they do instead of the old version of adding widgets where it was just like you know to select from a number and you didn't really know what they look like and all this stuff and yeah it's much better now um quick share now allows you to do

the tap thing that you can do on iPhones where you tap your phones together so if you have quick share on you can tap to connect to another work with an iPhone no oh just do you think it does like a cool animation no really it doesn't I saw someone demo it doesn't do an animation how have I never realized that like the tap to share things kind of like two phones dabbing each other up or like Send me your contact info. It works to me. A lot of these features, this is the first time we've seen Google do Android stuff

that iOS had already implemented and not the other way around. No, no. This has happened many times. They steal from each other. I thought it was always Apple just copying. It was at the beginning. And then they would innovate and then Android was like, this is almost Google copying other launchers.

They're making a pixel launcher just like straight up. fucking other lunchers. Yeah, just like, oh, you wanted this? Here it is. Now, if I could just get rid of the At a Glance widget, that'd be great. Oh, my God. Yeah, how is that not? I would return all of these just to remove At a glance on my home screen.

Oh, my gosh. It's insane. What is At a glance? It's, okay. Oh, God. I know what it is. But Ellis, this is why it's insane. It takes up a part of your home screen and can be a bunch of small little notifications or the weather

or time. You can turn it off. But it keeps it there. Just it doesn't give you the notifications. You can never take it off of your home screen. It's permanent real estate. And it's just like permanent. And then it just goes like the date and time, which I already have.

In the corner. In the corner. And I have my clock widget that I like. Clock widget is almost unnecessary with that, but I still prefer a bigger clock. But that means I also have to have at a glance. If there's something I can't wait to be on killed by Google.com, it's at a glance. Okay, there are expanded biometrics options, so you can select apps that you want to force to use, like, face detection for phones that support, you know, face their version of face ID, which is, you know, not usually not IR, but you can force it to have additional security through face unlock, which is helpful. And then, a little small thing, there's now a time zone changed notification that you can enable.

so if you live in the European Union, you love trains, and you're not sure, as you know, as you do, and you're not sure if your phone has updated the time zone yet, which is important for when you're setting calendar appointments and you're doing all that kind of stuff, you can now make it so your phone will give you a notification saying the sign tone changed to this time zone. That's sick. Yeah, very useful. I immediately thought of a short where you go on the line of a time zone difference and you jump back and forth between it and see how many notifications you get.

That's another one of those things. That's like oceans and seas. Like, when am I actually in the other time zone? Like, I know that there's a time zone line on a map. But is it really like a two foot difference between time zones? There's no way, like, I can step two feet over. Time is unreal, Marquez. I mean, I know that.

I think I'm... Talk to Arizona. We know. I think I'm developing this too much as, like, that one spot in Arizona where you can jump between, like, four states. Which that part is real, which is super cool. I just wonder, like, I know... But states aren't real.

Whenever I land at an airport in a new time zone and I take my phone off airplane mode, it takes like 10 seconds and it goes, oh, you're on a new time zone. And it just changes the clock. Nothing happens. So it's like cool that it'll tell me I'm in a new time zone. But I do wonder where exactly does that switch over? Yeah. There's probably, there's got to be a little.

I want to know. I don't want to know. What do you mean? It's just the state lines. Yeah, but is it? In the U.S., it's the state line. So if I, because when I'm driving on a road and I see the welcome to. New York sign, that's not the exact

state line. It's not only, like, Texas has two times. If there's no people in a place, it doesn't matter what time is. Actually, multiple states have, and it's not the state line. But there's a time zone line, let's say, in Ohio, right? Michigan. Michigan? Michigan's the farthest one. All right. So if I live

on one side of the line, and I drive my car to the next town over on the other side of the line, my phone will switch. at what moment is my phone triggered to switch? Is it when my GPS coordinates are exactly one meter past an exact line, which is somewhere? I would imagine so, yeah. And then can I just ping back and forth over that line by like two yards and switch my time zone back and forth?

This is a huge case. No, I would imagine so, yeah. I just want to check. I don't think it's state lines. Really? Are there states in multiple time zones? Many. According to this map.

And this is not an AI overview. Yeah. But it's funny because I didn't think it. Then you said that was like, that would make the most sense. Yeah, it's not. Because it's weird to be in the same state on multiple lines. Time zones in general don't make sense. Tom Scott has a great video about this from like a decade.

That's all you have to tell me, and I agree. I just would like to, this is like, this is something I would do for a YouTube short is just go to the line with my phone and just walk across the line and see what happens. Well, what's confusing, though, also else is it looks like sometimes it uses a state line and sometimes it doesn't it that's wrong it seems like Texas Kansas brutal for more than that reason I'm not about time so I should I was right Michigan is the far I mean unless you count that little sliver of Indiana yeah but that's why Michigan is so fun in the summer because it's so far west that the sun doesn't set

until like 9 or 10 p.m. That's nice. That's awesome. It's so fun. Wow. Isn't there a city in Michigan that you yelled that a couple months ago? Anyway. Detroit?

That's really funny is I talk all this smack about Detroit, which then gets cut from the podcast, I really hope. But my safari, my, my safari, like when I open Safari, the default background is Cade Coddingham. So play off Cade. All right. That was a basketball reference. Caves are really good right now.

Yeah, Chris Paul, too. too soon that's going to age really poorly if something crazy comes out in the next two days before anyway okay okay anyway sorry time zone change not going to answer to that time zone change on android biggest feature um that's about it for that so so if you got a pixel or you're on android exciting times it's kind of i'm kind of jealous i've been on iOS for a little bit now and i'm pretty jealous that they just get like random feature jobs like this. I will say it has been very nice being on Android this time around.

Every year I jump back and forth and I stand by it that iOS I think has better apps. But Android as an operating system is so fun. Dude it's so much more fun. Liquid acid is so bad. It's so bad and

Material 3 expressive, horrible name, is great. Or like material P expressive. I got a it was on brand yeah that's a girl well it's good material lemoncello right right lemoncello do you want to talk about YouTube recaps why don't we make after the next ad break all our recap all the recap stuff because it's all recap news yeah all that's true all right just to wrap it out uh related to last week last week we talked about how DJI or maybe it was two weeks ago I don't know it was either last week the week before I don't know what time zone I was in

Um, so we talk about how DJI might get banned from the United States before the end of the year because of this, they have to do a security clearance thing that they're probably not going to do because they're lazy. And, uh, if that happens, that would be weird because the Osmo Pocket 4, which if for those that don't know, the Osmo Pocket is probably DJI's most popular product for creators. Uh, it's this little tiny thing that's basically a smartphone sensor, but I don't know why people buy it, but they like it. Um, it's pretty good. It's good. It's popular. The Pocket 4 just passed the FCC, which is the Federal Communications Commission in the United States. It was just certified by the FCC, which means its launch is usually quite imminent after things passed the FCC, like within a month or two. But they're going to be banned within three weeks. So the options here are like they pass the FCC, but they just never sell it in the U.S. Or it passes the FCC and it sold for two weeks? If it passes the FCC, would they revert it? Because once it's banned everything, everything they make, period, is banned?

They can't import any devices into the United States after that. So unless they did the Nintendo Switch 2 thing where they just fly as many in as possible. I was picturing a timeline where they're like, this just got approved, everyone's scramble ship as made to the U.S. as possible and just storm somewhere so that when they get banned, we can at least profit from selling the ones that we made it over the line before the door closed. It is possible. That's crazy. It's crazy. So it's kind of like a will-day, won't-day kind of thing. Or we'll just go to Canada.

Buy one from Best Buying Canada. Oh, true. Yeah, I guess we could do that. Yeah. Anyway, okay, we're going to do trivia, and then we're going to recap our years through various data tracking algorithms. And we're going to like it.

But first, I have to correct myself. One, Andrew, thank you for pointing out that I do not know how time zones work. Totally like that are statewide. I realize. I realize I know way less about time since that I thought I did. Time.gov is a really cool website I found. I love it.

The second correction is earlier I said in between 10 and 30% of meta's profits come from scams. Allegedly, I was wrong about that. The Reuters article claims that meta internal documents say that 10% of their profits come from scams. Adam. What does Arizona think there's so much better than everybody else? I mean, they're right. Arizona. Arizona Mountain Standard time.

Come on, y'all. Come on, guys. But also, we kind of are jealous a little bit. I'm pretty jealous. Very jealous. They just never have to deal with this bullshit. Basically, daylight savings. Question number two.

So, we just spent most of that segment talking about all the new Android features in the QPR2 release, right? Yeah, yeah. What does that stand for? I have an idea, but I'm not sure. Zero. I forgot.

I did know this, like, a couple months ago, and I just don't remember anymore at all. It's totally escaped me. which means I'm going to guess, and then R slash Android is going to declare me an idiot. Well, that's just what happens. That's already happened. That's unavoidable. I just was forecasting a little bit.

Fun fact, the people who make QPR2 are the same people that make the mayonnaise. You know, that was originally going to be my question, but I was like, they're not going to know what I'm talking about. I love QPie mayonnaise. Rich brought in QPie mayonnaise. Eric brought it. Eric brought it. Eric brought the QipRandies, and that did happen. All right.

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but efficient as well? Visit coderabbit.aI slash MKBHD. All right, this week, YouTube proved that they do at least hear what we are saying to them because they announced a feature that I and others, Hank Green notably, have been pitching on Twitter. for years since they killed YouTube Rewind, which is, we want RAPT. I still want them to call it Rewind. I said they should have called the Rewind, and that's totally fine.

I get it. They want to abandon the name. But the idea would be, I just want to know, like, all the stats and numbers and insights and analytics from the videos that I watched on YouTube this year. I watch a lot of YouTube.

And kind of similarly to Spotify Rapp, I feel like it's kind of like a window into who you are. It's kind of like an interesting insight into your year. So, YouTube did find, finally do that this year and it's rolling out this week almost all of us have it andrew still hasn't gotten it's supposed to be like this week globally on his google phone arguably the most google faithful here with the google phone doesn't get it yet but it's called youtube recaps and if you do have it you can open it up it's in your account page and it can

walk you through it was it's kind of like a first-gen product it's not the most insightful thing in the world but it shows you like the channels you watch the most and like the genres you watch the most and it's kind of interesting and i feel like i've had some things that that I learned and some things that were like clearly wrong in there yeah but uh it was cool it did I think my most interesting stat is I watched allegedly 1,880 channels this year oh my god so I watched 538 you watch three times as much you scroll shorts on there uh on the YouTube app yeah yeah that would count that has to count really that can I could see that fly that shouldn't well it's interesting yeah I guess that would instantly bump up the number of channels you watch

It doesn't show any shorts channels when I look at the channels, though. It also didn't. What do you mean? Yeah. I mean, like these two have shorts on them. I mean, they have shorts on them, but they're not main shorts. Yeah, but it's still going to show up in the shorts feed. This could just be long form.

It could be. I'm not sure that it includes shorts. And it doesn't say there's no, like, numbers to any of this. It's just kind of telling me, like, here's what you watched. But I feel like this could just be long form. Well, my top channel is the waveform podcast. Hell yeah. I bet some people watching this their top channels is the waveform.

podcast yeah uh so shout out to you guys maybe send us the screenshots on twitter they have oh they haven't appreciate you i would argue most people watching this probably has it as their top channel because if you watch it on youtube the hours you are putting here it's just default and again it doesn't it doesn't say how it's measuring it is it by hours is it by total views is it by percentage of catalog watched because i saw a couple channels in here that like i haven't watched that many videos of them but i'm in the top three percent of waveform viewers that's pretty definitive. You watch a lot of it and most, more than most people

and I make a lot of it. How many channels did you say you watch? Mine said 1,880 channels. Okay, I got 1,7007. Hell yeah. Do you watch shorts on YouTube? No. Okay. So, yeah, it feels like it could just be long form. And then it shows like a screenshot of like a bunch of channels and it seems like it's... So while I'm playing Dota, you're watching YouTube.

Yeah. What I... I'm saying is that, Marquez, you were not on the list of my tech channels that I watched. Oh. You were, you were categorized in my recap as a business insights channel. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah, the number one business insights reviewer in the world. Business, I mean, I'll take it.

I saw someone say that Wayform Clips was categorized under gaming. Yeah, I saw that too. We know a lot about gaming. We've never had anything wrong about it. We are the Nintendo Switch 2 podcast. Honestly, maybe that's why. There's a good amount. So it gives me YouTube Recap gave me my top three genres.

So one was tech news, two was sports. its content three was comedy didn't know that but i guess that's technically true uh and then it gives me a couple other things it doesn't show me i would say Spotify wrapped is a more developed product yeah with more interesting insights very developed but shout out to youtube for actually listening this is a good first try now next year do better build in some interesting like like number crunching or like insights like how many hours of youtube did i watch this year i want to know that I want to know something Spotify did this year with Rapt is they analyzed your listening history

and just came up with a listening age and it gives you a number of like you have the listening habits of a 20-year-old or a 70-year-old. Interestingly, today is my 32nd birthday and it said mine was exactly 32. Hilarious. I also think like if Amazon did a Rapt,

it would know way too much about you to get it wrong and it would just tell you your exact age. This is totally not because I'm really salty that I'm the only person here without recap right now. I feel like the reason Spotify Rapp works so well is because it has a singular day where everybody is sharing it. So to roll this out gradually and not have everyone having it and sharing it at the same time is just the amount of people who are going to be like, oh, I'm hyped. I want to go look at it and it's not in your profile. You've just lost. Sounds like a you problem.

Yeah, YouTube problem. Well, YouTube rolls out features in stages and waves a lot. And I almost wonder if they even have the ability to like, I mean, other than removing the like dislike button. They could do it. They're a trillion-dollar company. Yeah, they should be able to pull, they should be able to hit a button and every single thing on the second largest website on the planet should change. What was your YouTube award? Mine is the most likely to have the latest tech and still know the best local coffee shop. That is extremely accurate.

That's pretty specific. dreamly accurate mine was the most likely to know what's going on behind the scenes of a news story before other people have heard the news story wow that's also very specific that's not insinuating you just know i'm a fucking genius right he's the one that committed the crime my award is most likely to find the coolest new gadget before everyone else yeah that's mine that seems pretty generic yeah to be on are you the curious mind i'm the curious mind That's my personality type. The wonder seeker. I'm the wonder seeker. Marquez, do we have the same YouTube rat? Maybe.

Tech product reviews. Was Bad Bunny also your top listen to? No, I've never heard a bad bunny song in its entirety. That is a lie. In its entirety. Bad Bunny was yours? Yeah. On my Spotify.

Bad booney. Yeah. Do you know that line in the office where he's like, I love inside jokes. I'd love to be part of one one day? That's how I feel right now with all you guys. I don't know what any of you're talking about. You know, it's funny, after you watch your YouTube recap, it has you do a questionnaire to whether or not you think that it was good or not. It was good or not. It says, rate your level of agreement. This recap reflects who I am, my interest references, et cetera.

They're trying. The first screen, if you look very small text at the bottom, it says AI can make mistakes. So it was definitely made with AI. Damn. I mean, I don't. I'm not shocked. Microsoft uses AI. Yeah, I can make mistakes. It does say that very tiny, very small text. I'm sorry, Andrew. Yeah. Anyway, I'm so irrationally mad about this. It's kind of like, before everyone asks my, I don't have my history deleted or anything.

Like, I don't have any of the special things that would not let me have it. YouTube just hates me. Well, I still don't have my Google Photos recap, which was we were we about to talk about. No, I don't have that either. That I do have, which is. You have it? I do have that way. Wow.

So Google gave that to you. Do you want to go to that? Yeah, we'll go to Google. Are you guys done with this? We'll just finish up Google, yeah. YouTube recap? Yeah. still should have been called

YouTube Reborn. And I do want to say really quickly, I know that YouTube Rewind got progressively more cringe, but I like, I feel like there's something cultural about that, you know? Keep the name, like, own the name. I know it, they must have really, really realized how bad it was.

Corporate wanted to bury it, but it would have been way better to own it. What has changed, though, like, this is something I'm thinking about a lot recently. There's not really like a singular cultural event that everyone, like, it doesn't happen that much anymore that there is one topic that everyone is watching and seeing and talking about. So, because of algorithmic timelines and everything being curated to for you. So now, like, the YouTube rewind, you know, it already felt a little

out of touch because it would be some, like, artists that you had, and you've never heard of them before. And it was like, oh, they were really popular. That's crazy. But now it would be, like, I would not recognize literally anything that happened on it. Which is why this is a perfect replacement for it so it's just telling you about yourself and what you watch but i want to feel more connected to the world that's well the best youtube rewinds the best youtube rewinds were the first few where it was just the extremely extremely small selection of the couple of memes yeah that everyone was aware of which there are like no there's that everyone's aware of there's only like five like six exactly six seven you've all seen the only thing they've all heard you've all seen maybe like one major sports event

And one major cultural, like, event or one or two celebrities that, like, had a big moment or something like that, that would be it. But I feel like... I mean, in a tech space, even now the Android releases are not going to be like a big Android 17. I know. They're all just coming out all the time constantly. There used to be stuff every day on Twitter that we would, they would be the topic of the day. That does not happen almost at all anymore. Yeah.

Like every now and then, but not very often. Yeah. If you were in charge, if you were in charge of YouTube Rewind today and you were trying to do it the same style as the last few rewinds, you would have a list like 70 pages long of things to include and it would just be impossible. Yeah. So glad they didn't try that. Like K-pop. Yeah, I feel like it could be like. K-pop demon hunters, my name.

K-pop demon hunters. Coffee Zilla. Like kind of, I feel like this was kind of his breakout year. Or did he start? No. That was like two to three years ago. His breakout year was probably two to three years ago. I think when like the bigger

NFT crypto scammy stuff was The 2020 It might be longer than last year No no no no no no In 2020 I think he was still a coffee channel I didn't even know he was a coffee channel He was definitely doing a lot of the crypto stuff During the Metaverse wave

His most popular video Three years ago, four years ago Two years ago two years ago Yeah Yeah Yeah Because actually two years ago Was his really big year

The biggest YouTubers were still Mr. Beast and, like, the most obvious ones that you're thinking of. T-series. And that's fine. All right, tell us about Google Photos recap that apparently only you have, Andrew. Yeah, this is a pixel reward. This is my Pixel Reward, not the other Google product from YouTube. I mean, Google Photos is awesome already in that it does a lot of these, like, memories together

or, like, this day back, like, photos from this day in previous years. But it pretty much just gives you at the top of your screen a, like, 2025 year recap um and you just scroll through it and it pretty much is just going to show the people you took the most photos of i have 1800 photos of lane apparently from this year um which is then funny because then it's claire and then my the third person is just lane but it doesn't put lane's name to the face so uh but yeah it's just kind of going through all how people you've taken photos of um you know mine is just all lane pretty much but exploring new places things you've done i've gone to a lot of devil's games theme parks i guess it's another good service to have a rewind

and then it throws some videos at the end just like clips them all together which is awesome i think as a parent right now yeah this is like one of the coolest things ever maybe that's why i gave it to you first possibly um and this is really cool because i can share it just through Google Photos with other people. I think, like, one last thing about harping on being a parent is, like, when you have a kid, start a shared Google Photos album with everyone who might take pictures of them that they can then look at, and it's the best thing ever. Yeah.

I think that's really awesome. Yeah. They also added a new feature to this Google Photos recap, where you can now export directly to CapCut for some reason. It's specifically CapCut, and they have a bunch of different templates where you can put, different photo reel stuff in it. Yeah, I guess it's like they really want you to make a short out of it or something. I'm sure to share it.

Yeah. The other funny thing is there's also an option called replace people or photos. So I guess if you, because I guess we all take photos of like random things all the time, maybe a receipt, maybe just like, this is where I am. So like if that happens to pop up, you can replace the photo. Replace people is really funny. I guess maybe if you take too many photos at like work and there's someone from work that you don't want

to be with all your other family members. I'm assuming it will take out the couple slides that's dedicated to that person. The tags that recognizes, yeah. Yeah. So you can edit it. I'm glad because not to go dark, but that could also be a thing

if you lost a family member this year. And then it's giving you a recap of like, yeah. Look at all these pictures. I don't want to see that right now. That might be like good to see the memories of the person but, like, if you broke up with somebody, then you don't want to see the memories with the person.

Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Well, that's depressing. Yeah. Spotify is the next one. Spotify got to kicked off this whole, like, recap thing, and now frigging eight sleep is probably doing a recap.

Wait, I want that. How do you slept this year? Wait, I want that. Eight sleep wrapped? I don't know. I didn't get the Spotify age thing. You didn't? No.

It's in the... I know. I was looking at that. In your rap? It didn't... Huh. No. I guess I'm timeless.

That's what I want to ask. I think there was two main things in rap this year that were different, that were fun. And one is it calculates your age based on music you listen to. And also the last one was towards the end, it created files of kind of like your most music listening day. It would be like the day you listen to the most different genres, the day you listen to this one artist too many times and had a little recap. But I wanted to ask what everyone's listening. age was. Mine is 47.

47. Mine is 32. 32. That's hilarious because it's your birthday. Yeah. I think David and I are on the older end. Mine was 87. I thought it was 77.

Oh, was the 72? Mine was, so mine's kind of interesting because it's also old. I believe it's 68. The only thing is, and Marquez had an interesting point about this. So maybe he's right. I listened to a lot of older music. Oh, 73. Sorry, not 87.

That was 73. That's wild. He knows you make fun of Spotify I'm the Enigma, baby. I mean, my genres are indie pop, ska punk, Minneapolis sound, whatever that means.

That's Prince. Pop, an alternative rock. And how is that 73? I think it's more based on when the music came out and when you're possibly be... Yeah, I mean, it plays Joni Mitchell when I am.

Mine's... Yeah, mine played Bruce Springsteen when it said 68, but it also said in my top genres, number four was lullableness. because of how many things I played for Lane, which makes me wonder if my age should be way higher, and that's actually pulling my average down really hard. But you said...

I thought it was interesting. Like, obviously a lot of one-year-olds listen to lullabies, but maybe they're not the ones listening to it on Spotify. It's their parents who are listening to the lullabies on their Spotify. So it knows, based on you listening to lullabies, that you are around a parent's age. Yeah. Potentially point.

They also just know how old you are. That was the thing. I think you just, it just knows. But it's supposed to just tell you you're a listening age. It's just sad that mine's the same as my age. If it was just trying to actually guess our age, it's all really bad. It's boring. I also found a very funny, I forgot to mention this.

I found a very funny bug in the YouTube recap. So as many people know, I watch almost every video at at least 2X speed. Unfortunately. The YouTube recap will play music in the background based on a side. that you've listened to through YouTube music, apparently. I don't really know how it picks it. But if the last video that you watched on YouTube before you start your recap, you were watching at 2x speed or something else, it plays that song at 2 to 3x speed.

So watch this. So if I, I don't know if we can play this because I copyright. But if I switch, let me just switch this playback speed to 3X. Okay. You're just in like a random video right now? Just a random video. And then I go to my YouTube recap. And it's like doing the recap, but it's like playing it at 3x.

Wait, can you find royalty-free music to do this? No, no, no, it only does your most played song through YouTube music as your background. Streetlight manifesto sped up just sounds like Through the Fire and Flames. I thought it was through the Fire and Flames, but I thought it was. Yeah, that's really funny. Well, that song's not technically out yet, so maybe it's not copyrighted. I'm pretty sure through the fire and flames has been out for quite some time, baby.

I played through the fire and places at a party and someone was like, what is this? And I was like, oh my God. Is that person uncultured? That's why you're listening age of 73. Jeez. Dragon Force. That was really funny.

Well, anyway, if you guys have us on your rapt or your recap, because we could be on your YouTube recap or your Spotify wrapped, send it to us. Yeah. I want to see it. Yeah, we'll see it.

I also wanted to end this with one other wrapped we got is in megaphone we get wrapped for creators which if you guys want to open the link you can we have not looked at this but this is basically our wrapped for waveform of people who listen to us I thought we'd go through it really quick I think we usually do this every year so if you guys want to pull it up at the production desk let's go 2025 this year is quite the year for you scroll down This is just on Spotify, or is this across all... Well, no, megaphone is across all audio. Yeah.

Yeah, so this should do everything. It's just that megaphone's owned by Spotify now, so... Okay. Little proof that hard work pays off. 2.3 million total plays. Dope. Again, audio only. 9% increase of total audience from last year.

Okay. 122,000. Total new audience. Wait, what? Isn't that what we just... Oh, total audience. Total new audience, 56.8K. up 350% from last year.

I'm not sure how it's... I don't know what that means. Well, this is audio, right? This is just through Spotify. Or is this... No, it's megaphone. This is all... This is what pushes to RSS.

Yeah. That's cool. That sounds like a totally wrong number. Total followers, 274,000, up 7% from last year. Is that right? 52.6 million minutes of listening. How many...

Do I have more... hours in Dota 2 then hours well here we go hours of listening 877000 hours of listening pretty close that is 36.5 000 days

5.2,000 weeks is that just this year 1.2,000 months and 100 years centennial wow we're a blues on

this is our centennial blues zone that's so many dishes It's a lot of dishes. Wait, is that it? Yeah, that's it. Oh, wait, no, no, the charts. Number nine?

We hit number... Number nine, what? The charts. Wait, form of KBHD podcast. You hit number nine. Like, total? Number nine, we're sorry. We know we had hands.

We didn't think it hurt that bad. Did we hit the number nine? I just, what is the charts? What is the charts? You were on the charts for 43 weeks. You charted in eight countries. That's that mean. What is that mean?

that mean clearly they did not put as much work into they put way too much work in the animations for all of this because they're really good thanks daddy one episode oh our most popular episode what do you think our what episode rose above the rest you already know which one is vision pro Apple iPhone yeah was it vision pro oh our live oh yeah our Apple Park event yeah 40% more than the average episode wow nice wait was that our that wasn't the no it was the one right I was to say that. We're still quoting it.

Whatever that means. Hot takes, leave notes, and everything in between. Love notes. What is that? These are all the comments we haven't enabled. Oh, no, just the comments that we barely know how to read. Well, there's hundreds of them. YouTube needs to fix this episode, got the most comments.

The most used emoji was a thumbs up. The United States left 716 comments. most comments were left on June 19th sorry we're going to say something else is that just is this on spotify yeah this is through Spotify sorry if you comment on Spotify good job we're probably we never seen it's just we don't have a process in place to like actively yeah replying yeah our listening past oh this is the most fun part they're like 158 countries reached there are 158 countries there's I can't name all the planet uh oh Oh. All right. Top countries. United States, United Kingdom, India, Canada, Germany. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Come on, man. Get your friends to listen. You're never going to chart at this rate. You're charted. You charted number nine. Your show made it to the top of many fans' lists. What's a list? I don't know. It's next to charts. You're a top ten show for 71,000 fans. That's pretty awesome. Top 5 for 55,000 fans.

Number one show for 18.7,000 fans. Shout out fans. Including me on YouTube. Your top fans streamed 2.6 times more than everyone else. I feel like this has to just be Spotify. There's no way they could collect. Yeah, this feels like Spotify only data. I don't think they can collect this data.

They don't have user data from a process. Okay. Unless they're like logging everybody's IP all the time. Minutes and stuff like that. Yeah. Total. That could probably be. This is a Spotify URL.

Well, it's a Spotify URL because it's through Megaphone, which is what pushes to RSS for us. There's a Spotify logo on the corner. Because Spotify owns Megaphone. Yeah, but I think it's pretty clear. This is all just Spotify. Then that's crazy because all these numbers are way higher because Spotify isn't even our most listened to. I don't know because Megaphone gives us. Megaphone gives us numbers outside of Spotify.

That's what I'm saying. I think that I would guess that the listening numbers are probably from all platforms because you can detect how many times an RSS feed is pulled from megaphone servers, but I don't, I don't know how they would know like our users' top shows from RSS infrastructure. It's really simple syndication. Oh, keep scrolling. These get really interesting when you scroll down. The top artists? The top artists from people who listen to our podcast. What?

I don't know one or two, which is probably. I don't know one. I don't know two. Who is four? Three is Kendrick Lamar, four is Taylor Swift, and five is Drake. Who? Pop audiobooks you guys listen to. Number one, John Green.

Everything is tuberculosis. Number two, Ezra Klein, abundance. Number three, Gary Stevenson, the trading game. Whoa. Number four, James Clear's iconic Atomic Habits book. And number five, Mark Manson, the subtle art not giving a fuck. Wow. it's there's something funny about talking about not giving a f*** and then censoring the word

on the cover yeah it sounds like you give a little bit you got a book everywhere you got to sell a book and then other top shows that you guys listen to let's just say number two number one well jerry is the most popular podcast on earth so joe row number one the wands show number two the verge cast number three the new york times daily number four the bill simmons podcast Yo, wave form listeners, no ball! You know ball? Y'all know ball? Okay.

Pretty awesome that the Jerry Wrig Everything experience is the number of the podcast. That is interesting. Who's Bill Simmons? Sportscommon theater. Just leave it at that. Sports guy. Big sports guy. All right.

Yeah, the last thing says fans listen to you for longer than 99% of other shows. So we have a show that keeps people listening for long durations. Wow. Which for a podcast, I feel like, is a pretty big achievement. That's pretty cool. Honestly, shout out to Adam for that, because if you were in the room with us, you would leave so fast. That's a good job. I haven't left yet.

Very cool. I don't know. I have to cut them sometimes where you leave some bathroom. Oh, yeah, that's true. You receive more shares than 99% of other shows? Really? That feels like something. There's a lot.

That feels like a great accomplishment. They shared all the iPhone video. iPhone. And that's it. Nice. Well, we charted. Whatever that means, we did that. Doc, I charted.

We charted. We charted. We listed. And now we trivia. Unlike Nathan Drake, who uncharted. We charted. We charted. Sea of the seas. All right. All right. Relax.

And another thing. Also, I just blinked. What's an ocean anyway. I just blinked and this animation thing was like in mind. Because it's like pulsing. I learned when I was really young. That C is for cookie. And that's good enough for me.

We could have solved that whole argument with that one. I did long division for this one. Is that the first question, though? How did you do long division? For the first question? I don't see any. In this class, you've got to show you to work, brother. I did long division.

Would you ask chaty BT? Okay. Guys, the 1 plus 15's battery is insane. how many times larger in millie amp hours is it larger or longer doesn't matter how many times more in milliamp hours is the one plus 15 than my 12 mini closest delta closest oh boy delta oh wait we have really milked this piece of music for so much at this point it's incredible it's timeless i wish i remember who wrote it let's switch to Sid Meyers' Simgolf theme song next.

You guys probably haven't heard it. Sid Meier's civilization. We were both like, because everyone's heard of civilization. I heard of Sidmeier's Simgolf. Oh, boy. Oh, please give me the win. No.

These are close answers. These are close answers. It ain't 2400 million dollars. David. What is your answer? 4.2x. All right. I will tell you now that you are the farthest.

What? Away from what I can see. All right. Andrew, what did you put? 3.15. 3.15. That puts you 0.12 away from the correct answer. Mark has what did you put?

I think he's right. I know the 1 plus 15 has a 7,300 million-empower battery. That is correct. I was guessing that your phone's in the ballpark of 2,400, which I think might be too high. It is too high. That's too high. I was thinking it was $1,500. I have 3.1X, which I'm realizing.

I'm sorry, I'm going to round that to 3.10 because you do not have, oh, wait, that's what you meant by. That you weren't like X was not a variable. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no times. The correct answer is 3.27, which gives Andrew the point. So what is the millionth power of the iPhone? I believe it is, I believe it is 2,227. For some reason, I was guessing like $1,500. I was guessing more.

You know why I guess $1,500? It was the usable million powers of Ellis's battery. That's what I was guessing. Wow. It's like $800. Probably $1,500 by this point. That's what I was thinking. I was in Chinatown buying fish balls for David and I.

It's so good. The guy, the fish ball at Mr. Chang's fish ball store was like, oh, you should scan this QR code and leave a review of my fish balls. And I was like, yeah, I love it, man. I'm here all the time. And I opened my camera app to scan it, and my camera broke. It didn't work. So, like, at this point, this point, are you just going to upgrade your phone? It's a feature phone.

Are you going to upgrade it? As soon as I can get a 17 Pro for under $1,200, sure, but, like, come on, man. Are you going to get the small one? Yeah. The small one is not $1,200. I mean, after tax. It starts at 11, and then you should never buy base storage iPhones. It doesn't start at 999?

No. Yeah. Yeah? 10. Oh, it's 1099. 1099. A pro. It starts a 1099.

1099. 1099. Yeah. All right. I'm going to pass it over to Adam to do a score update and hit you with question number two. Get him. Well, that's getting cut. Why?

Quick update on the score. Marquez with 10. Andrew, after that correct answer, with 13. David, bring up the rear with 9. David, this is your chance. What does. QPR2 mean for the Android

updates that we spoke about QPR2 is when you exchange a bribe for fish eggs quid pro row one point to Alice this is it flip him and read what do you got

I'll go David first. Oh, duh. I did quarter. Oh, I think Marquez is right. I think Marquez is right. Okay, well. I wrote it means nothing hoping that it just didn't really mean anything because I couldn't even pretend to make up letters.

That would have been hilarious, but no. I wrote quarterly pixel release two. Okay. And Marquez, what did you write? I wrote quarterly public release two. It's Marquez. I think it's public, though. Neither of you were correct.

It's quarterly platform release two. Close enough. Nice work. And neither of us can claim close to Delta because they're both one word off. Because it's a word. Unfortunately, that means... How many letters are?

We could go down to letters. There's not distance between words. Actually, there isn't 3D space. Well, hey, nobody gets those points, but we all learn something today. Shout out to those of you who have a singer-wrapped or your recaps. And, yeah, because I get it wrong every week.

So I just learn something every week. Yeah, fair. And thank you for watching and for listening. And subscribing. We'll catch you very soon in our more regularly scheduled programming in Texember. No. We're just forcing it at this point.

Texember. See you soon. It's his birthday. Oh, true. You're right, Marquez. Wayform is produced in a small studio in between the Labrador and Sargasso Seas by Ellis Rovin and Adam Molina. The Catsby and C is a lake.

Bingo. Our theme music is written by Vane Sill and we're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. We're written by the VIII. Written by the box. I'm on ocean service. Okay. And they say a sea is the part of the ocean that is near land. That's it.

Oh, I thought it came after B. That's a terrible explanation. That's not. I can go to the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. So not all ocean. So not. But then there's a bay.

but all sea is part of ocean. So it's some of the parts of the ocean that are near land. It's a part of an ocean that's like vaguely near land. That's not just like far out of an ocean. So it's not like a hard line. It's like a gradient. Yeah. That's a weird way of describing.

I don't think so. But it's just like it makes you think any parts of the ocean that are near land are seas. Which is not true. Well, think of it this way is like when you're actually sailing, right, like land, these, like, big masses of stuff really affect weather patterns. So we're talking about land land. What?

Nah, I'm talking about air land. I like much that chvety definition, actually. Oh, no. Okay. And mine is personalized to give me analogies to it. So think of the ocean as the plant's giant mainstages saltwater. There's only a few.

They're immense. They're deep, and they connect continents. A sea is like a side room off of that stage, smaller, shallower, often partly enclosed by land, and commonly linked to an ocean. So oceans shape global circulation and climate with broad, uninterrupted waters, seas sit on continental margins like the Caribbean Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, they can have distinct conditions and ecosystems and are more influenced by nearby land and rivers. Do they have to be a certain size? That's a better...

Ellis has the perfect image for this. So if anyone is confused, look at the video version because I will have this image in the podcast. Do they need to be of a certain size? If you say it's the part of ocean by land, that's a confusing way. describing it? Wait, so the, because in Santa Cruz, like, that's a, like, that's a bay. Because there's Santa Cruz, there's the Monterey Bay, which is, like, the area that separates Santa Cruz and Monterey.

Yeah, wait, so what's the difference between a Bay and a sea? Yeah. A bay? We're thinking of these terms as like, you know, these hard geographical, or I guess not geographical, it's the ocean. But the reason, I would assume the reason that these terms are different is because when you're sailing on the water. The conditions, the average weather, it's going to be different when you're out in the open ocean versus vaguely near a massive land, right?

So just saying the Atlantic Ocean has these conditions is not specific enough because the Labrador Sea and the Sargasso Sea are going to be, require different sailing techniques to traverse them. Also all the, okay, so what's the, so the Gulf of Alaska, Alaska goes all the way down to the Bering Sea. Oh, all the way down? Yeah, where, like. Chilean sea. It's like the general. Like, this is a bunch of seas. Nobody's uses and then all of a sudden it's like...

Does it have something to do with like the ocean floor? Like where it drops off to deeper parts and that would be the ocean? Yeah, we could go to the Labrador Sea. I've never heard most of us. Lincoln Sea? Because we're not, you're not, we're not sailing. Like they don't, we're not traversing the oceans. They don't have meaningful differences.

Also, the Gulf of Mexico is just saying like this thing is not a sea. So it's even more enclosed? Because I'm looking at the Bay of Bengal right now. I'm feeling like that's kind of a gulf. We brought up a map that has a bunch of seas. None of us use the terms for it. But then it's also just missing a giant portion. There's a lot of seas.

That's like still land connected to ocean. Yeah. Anyway. This didn't help me at all. Yeah, this didn't help. What was your question? Wait, Ellis, what was your question? What was the difference between the ocean?

I'm just saying the original explanation was a poor explanation. and Ellis is trying to prove it with a map that nobody cares about and is still proving me right. What's the sea off California near land? It might not have a denotation because it's not necessary to separate from the rest of the Pacific Ocean. The Pacific Ocean is called the Pacific Ocean

because it's... Yeah, but all I'm... Never mind. This is a pointless conversation. What about around like Hawaii? Is there like a sea? No, it's the Pacific. I feel like that's too small.

It doesn't talk about the Gulf of Mexico at all. it's supposed to be seas which is weird that says Gulf of Alaska yeah um I'm just saying I think the saying sees are oceans near land is confusing because there are also oceans near land and I think just a step further explaining yeah is not that unreasonable apparently the Hawaii sea is the Pacific oceans surrounding the Hawaiian islands yeah but that is that might be made up so I think you're agreeing with Ellis you just wish that it was more specific exactly that's all I've ever said less he wants less specific no I want more specific i thought you didn't want the seas you just wanted no no i'm just saying the very vague

definition of a sea is ocean next to land which is what you first said right or am i wrong on that and then my whole argument it's technically not wrong but it's not actually i just don't think it's a good description wait but look at this the caspian sea is not even connected to the ocean that's a that's a lake the caspian sea is a lake you just don't see it the caspian sea is also fully landlocked really i can see how the black sea is connected i just don't see how the caspian yeah wait that that is the caspian sea isn't connected it's landline i mean maybe it's the biggest lake in the world it might have a river that connects it to the ocean like the great lakes no i know this the caspian sea is the biggest lake caspian oh you're right maybe they just named it that

before they made all these this is bullshit man this is balspian sea is you realize there's not like also the black sea like a like a like you realize there's not like some group of guys suits who are like the official government of seas and salt water that decide all this stuff. I mean, they just did that with the Gulf of Mexico. These are, these are, these are, these are terms that have been developed and cultivated over millennia of, of ocean fairing. Like, there doesn't have to be a reason. But why did you ask us a trivia question about it?

I did it. I didn't do any of this. This is Adam. I'm trying to respect that sometimes language is cultivated by, you know, over time people doing cool stuff and we can learn about that stuff and we don't need to be like that's fucking stupid

because it's not stupid. I think it's fucking stupid. My argument is if we want to learn more about it then we should have a better descriptor of it than just sea is ocean next to land. I think that doesn't give it enough credit. And I think there's a better way

to describe it. In the Black Sea? I think that we can use the simple it's near land because that will affect the ocean condition which is important because you need to know what kind of conditions your ocean craft is going to face.

I'm not doing this anymore. He's just not listening. I have an analogy. I think it's like how you still have the floppy disk as the save button. It's not actually a floppy disk. It's like an analogy for how we used to be. The C is the only one that's not connected to the ocean.

When it was called the sea, they should rename it as the... Yeah, the Caspian Lake. Did you watch the Hank Green video about fish recently? He talks about how there's, There's all this argument about whether sharks are fish, or jellyfish, fish, what actually is a fish? And the deeper you get into it, the more you realize it's literally impossible to decide a clear line of what a fish is.

I don't know why you're... Never mind. You're so mad at me because you think I don't believe you. But I believe you, and I'm just saying it would be easier for an average person to understand it with one more sentence tacked on to that conversation. And what I'm trying to say is the average person does not. need to understand it because the actual cool interesting functional truth is complicated the truth isn't complicated it's it's based on all but your answer to a complicated thing is

because you be as vague as possible as a definition of it I I honestly don't what does a I over you say that listen to God the Hawaii C is the ocean around Hawaii no it did not I googled Hawaii C though so I let it on. I definitely Does Hawaii C exist? I don't know. AI overview seems to think so. You were asking for it, Marcus. All I did was Google Hawaii C, and it said, oh, yeah, yeah, Hawaii. That's the water around Hawaii.

And I feel like that's all I need to know. All right. All right. Are you leading into the Android future? Yeah, Android stuff. Okay. Let's hit it. All right, welcome back.

There's the difference between the ocean and the sea. Oh, my gosh. I will. Chachy Bettinas. This all stem from being horrible. horribly wrong about season in the first place two episodes ago. Really? Well, I just said, like, no, season notions are different.

They are different. I know, and I know that. Oh, but you said it like joking back then. No, no, no, no. I thought they were, or like, uh... I used them as synonyms, because people say the seven seasons all the time. They're like, wait, but it also... Guys, I'm saying that was my bad.

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