Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Smartphone Season: Samsung Galaxy Note 10 & Note 10+...Everything We Know

Episode Date: August 9, 2019

This is the inaugural episode of the Waveform, the MKBHD podcast! Today's show includes a quick dive into the beginning of our epic podcast adventure and our goals for the future. We take a look at the upcoming "Smartphone Season" and discuss the facts and rumors surrounding the most anticipated smartphones, including the August 23rd launch of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 and Note 10+.  For further info on what we discussed: Simone Giertz Mantis Shrimp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoPYnwPKKY  Wawa Doubles Tesla Superchargers: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-superchargers-to-double-in-wawa-stores-2020/  The MKBHD Podcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/wvfrm    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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for Waveform, Andrew Manganielli. What's up, everyone? All right, so it's finally here. We've sort of teased this sort of unintentionally, but we've teased it for a while. It's been in the works and we wanted to do it right, but I'm finally excited to say we're launching a podcast. And you know what a podcast is already. It's audio. This is episode one and sort of feels good to get started. Yeah, it feels really good. We've been talking about this for a long time. I'd say like the last six months has been like we've been ready to really shoot it. So it's

really exciting to do this. I'm pretty pumped. I listened to Africa by Toto like four times on my way here. That's what gets me pumped up. Okay. So we're ready, I think. Okay. So before I guess before we get into the main topics, because we're going to have topics and it's sort of like a chat show of a whole bunch of tech things Let's just talk for a second about what waveform is because there's a bunch of tech podcasts already There's a bunch of youtuber podcasts already. So so I'll just talk about what waveform is for a second So for everyone who's a new listener, which is everyone a

Podcast so we've had the the YouTube channel the mkbht channel just at nine million subscribers by the way shout out to everyone who is subscribed thank you um i think the best way to describe this podcast is a combination of uh my extra thoughts and feelings on the gadgets on the tech and then also uh a lot of behind the scenes so we'll have like conversations around the studio about uh things like while of behind the scenes so we'll have like conversations around the studio about uh things like while we're shooting videos or we'll make like we come into work a little bit early and like kind of rant about something and like well you know that would have done pretty great actually as a podcast i wish we recorded that yeah exactly so that's that's the sort of

thing that's going to show up and then we'll also have i think a little bit of an interview style thing they're not super formal interviews but i feel like we can have youtubers on we can have people in tech business on and it all sort of flows uh into one place so we just have a place to share it now yeah and non-formal is fun i mean videos are pretty concise and everything and sometimes non-formal is just fun to talk about yeah Yeah. Little things that wouldn't make it into a video. And now we just have plenty of time. You probably have a long commute. So get ready to listen to a lot of rambling.

Do you listen to podcasts like just during commutes as a main time? Yeah. I'd say like every other Thursday, I look forward to my commute because I know a new reply all episodes out. That is a favorite. Yeah. We live in North Jersey. The traffic is horrific.

all episodes out. And like, yeah, we live in North Jersey. The traffic is horrific. Um, so it's, it's pretty magical to actually have something that kind of takes your mind off of not moving in front of, behind a truck for an hour every morning. So, yeah. So I just want to, I just want to break down Andrew for a second, because it's not just me on the podcast, Andrew, I would call you the, the assistant producer, the right-hand man in the studio every time I'm in the studio, but also a would call you the assistant producer, the right hand man in the studio every time I'm in the studio, but also a whole bunch of other interests that are sort of parallel to mine. So you're a gamer much more than I am. Yeah, yeah. For a long time, I've been gaming as long as I can remember. So there's going to be if there's gaming stuff that's in the news or that

we're talking about, Andrew's the guy who's going to share with a like what the deal is with the gaming. There's also we both play ultimate. so that's something we might talk about on occasion somebody's got a pretty important game coming up this weekend yeah so uh yes uh shortly after we record this i'll be heading to san jose to play in the semi-finals and then hopefully the finals of uh the audl championship weekend which is the pro ultimate frisbee league that we play in. Yep. Good luck. Thank you. It's going to be a, it's going to be a good weekend. Um, but yeah, so yeah, the format of, uh, of waveform is, uh, it's waveform it's audio. I feel like that was the best way to name it is to just go straight up simple. The logo is clean designed by you. Uh, it took a long time, uh, but, uh, for something so simple, simple takes time and being not great.

Simple takes the most time. Yeah, I guess. It looks painfully simple. I'm sure everyone that looks at it is like, why did that take you a long time? But it did, but whatever, it's here. Yeah, here we are. It's finally happening. Okay, so I want to start off by introducing a couple of things that I think can be great

regularly occurring segments. Number one, I think we're going to do this podcast pretty regularly and there's going to be videos in between. We can talk about things that happened on YouTube and in videos since the last podcast. So that would make, you know, the last video was the Redmi K20 Pro and then the Note 10 impressions. We're going to dive into Note 10. But yeah, that's one thing. And then another is just like things that have happened in the tech world in the news that honestly, we come into the studio and we talk about this news

and we'll also have Brandon and Vin in here all the time and we'll just talk about like, oh, what, Tesla's adding a bunch of superchargers to Huawei stations? That's an awesome like little bit of news. And then we'll talk about it for 10 minutes and then nobody, we don't really share it or tweet it or anything so that's kind of what this will be something that's like it's too long to talk about in a tweet but too short to talk about in a video

right now we have this we have a couple minutes at the start of all our podcasts where we can just talk about what happened since the last podcast pretty much and yeah yeah so segue into that sure what has happened the last couple weeks okay perfect so uh i guess to start it off we'll just sort of go through the last like week or so of small tech tech bits of news that we've talked about first thing is actually a little bit of self-awesome shout out to philip defranco for that self-awesome promo, whatever he calls it. Just finished shooting Retro Tech season one. Now, I don't want to, I can't spoil too much of it. Like, I don't want to tell you, I'll say there are six episodes, right? Yep.

You've seen like a lot of us shooting it around the studio. I got to see the shooting of a couple of them and they're fun. They're a lot of fun. They're a lot of fun. There's some great guests. There's some great YouTubers. there's some great guests there's some great youtubers there's some great interviews and the six pieces of tech that we chose because again these are like milestone like really important pieces of tech i think are a nice like healthy variety of some of the most important pieces of tech ever made very much so yeah yeah

so we finished we shot well, almost two months for those six weeks. And now it's going into sort of the post phase and editing. But I've mentioned in the past, this is all coming out in December. So RetroTech season one episodes will start coming out in December. And that's pretty exciting. That's really exciting. Yeah. Do you have any favorite pieces of RetroTech that aren't as old as the ones that we did aren't as old i mean yeah even i've got a couple years on marquez and still everything that i saw we did was before my time actually the only thing i can really think of is the game boy which we can talk about because that that episode is out if you haven't seen it it's great uh check it out but something that's important that i mean mean, I'm big on gaming. My first game system personally was a PlayStation, the original PlayStation.

I did grow up playing a couple other ones. I remember the old Super Nintendo and playing Paperboy and that fun stuff. Do you think more people started as gamers, as console gamers or as PC gamers? Because I feel like as a kid, you start to get into console gaming first. I think console gaming's that easier way of, oh, my parents know I like playing video games, so they don't go like... They don't know what to do,

so they just get a game in Walmart and it's the console. I mean, and honestly, I remember when Xbox first came out, I wasn't even that excited about it. And my mom, who's incredible, got me one for Christmas, heard that there was this game called Halo. I'd never heard of it. I've been a first-person shooter gamer since that's happened. So that's the formative years, yeah.

Yeah, pretty much my mom chose my genre of gaming that I like so much, which is interesting. But it's different. Yeah, PC. I have heard a lot of people get into PC gaming young. Usually that's from, it's different yeah pc i have heard a lot of people get into pc gaming young usually that's from it's been around longer so usually that's from a parent who games on their pc yeah um i'm sure everyone knows shroud shroud's dad apparently was a played counter-strike a lot so he started playing counter-strike early now he's like a counter-strike savant that's another thing you got to keep me in touch with because we talk about youtube and videos all the time but streaming

and twitch and mixer and all these other things that are happening in the streaming world that I also don't follow as much I mean the fact that you just said mixer out loud is Something that's been in the news recently. We all know ninja just went to mixer and that's all I know Yep So the fact like that just proves that all these people are saying on ninja made a bunch of money moving to mixer Well Marquez just said Mixer out loud. That's why they paid him, because people who don't know the streaming platform saw that news. Now they know Mixer's a thing.

It exists. Yeah, it exists pretty much. And so they did exactly what they're looking for. Yeah, I will say I was in the green room of a shoot that you'll see what show I was a part of very soon. you'll see what show i was a part of very soon but that's like half of what we talked about was tesla for a while and mixer and ninja and what that meant for media for a little bit it's a fascinating conversation but yeah you'll have to keep me up to date on we'll do on that okay uh one other little piece of news that i kind of sort of hinted at earlier that i loved is first of all tesla we talked about a ton on this so i have a Tesla. I've been driving one for a while.

Brandon, we got to get him on an episode coming up soon, but he drives a Model 3. Plenty of friends with Teslas in the area. We just naturally talk about the company a lot. I think ever since we interviewed Elon, that was kind of like a popular topic naturally. Yeah, definitely. And something they're constantly ahead with is supercharging

and if you're if you're in the tri-state area you've probably heard of wawa if you're in the northeast if you haven't you need to oh yeah that's it's popular and uh a lot of them have tesla superchargers specifically at them actually the one closest to our studio here in new jersey is a tesla supercharger in a wawa lot. And so one piece of news we'll try to include in the show notes if we can, like the links to the exact articles we talk about, but in New Jersey and Philly area, they're doubling down and adding, I think they said they're doubling. I think doubling. I think there's around 16 Wawas right now with superchargers, which doesn't sound like that much. Wawa is everywhere. Yeah. But doubling is awesome.

Wawa is also around down in florida surprisingly it kind of hits this like new jersey to delaware area and then just skips all the way down to florida but and for those unfamiliar a lot of wawas have gas stations yes right now yeah all the new ones yeah so people so if you're at a wawa and there's a gas station right there they'll also put superchargers sort of tucked away in the corner of the parking lot. But I just love seeing new superchargers get built. It's sort of a constant reminder that they're moving forward with it. Yeah, and it's cool just seeing a company coming out and saying, hey, we want to double this.

We want to increase it. I mean, it's probably great for their business also because you're sitting there for an hour and they sell food, so why not go in and grab a hoagie? Yeah. I don't know if everyone knows what a hoagie is. I think that's a pretty regional term. a bunch of names sub hero you're gonna start to get our lingo as we do this podcast more often of words we say that you might not have heard but yeah i think hoagie

is one of them hoagie is like a submarine sandwich if that's even what you call it but yeah a sandwich on top of news we ourselves we watch a lot of content online. A lot. I think it's safe to say that. Yeah. I mean, I know Marques does because every time I ask him if he's seen a new TV show, he has no idea what I'm talking about. Here's the thing.

I have a Netflix account. I have not logged in in months. I don't watch Hulu. I have TV, but like I really only watch live sports. I hope you're at least letting people in your family take your Netflix account. Yeah, I have an account. I watch a lot of on-demand content, and that's YouTube for me. So I watch tons and tons of YouTube.

So I think what we're getting at is another awesome segment to regularly have on this podcast would be like what we've seen and enjoyed on YouTube in the past little bit. Videos that really stood out. Phil DeFranco does something very similar to YouTube. Yeah. Videos that really stood out. Um, Phil DeFranco does something very similar to this. He goes through a lot of things. I think we're going to pick one or two, maybe a week or every other podcast and, uh, talk about it. Today's is probably not anything you'd be expecting. And I'm almost positive you have not seen it because you just flew in and sat straight down here. we all know simone yurts i believe is how you pronounce her last name yes um shitty robot girl i hope people still call her that or i feel really offensive saying that no that's her channel yeah cool um she just made

a video where she got a chance to fly out to new zealand and work with the people who did all the costume design for lord of the rings. So that's pretty cool. They asked, they told her, we will build you a costume, any costume you want. And, you know, they're the Lord of the Rings costume designers. They're going to create something incredible. So her idea was a business mantis shrimp. A business mantis shrimp costume professionally made. Do you know what a mantis shrimp a business mantis shrimp yes costume yeah professionally made so i'm imagining do you know what a mantis shrimp is i think i know what a mantis shrimp is but there if you don't

know what a mantis shrimp is you have to look up a video on it because they're the most fascinating creatures in the world don't think of like a shrimp you eat like in a shrimp cocktail think of a tad bigger think of the most insane colors you think of the galaxy note 10s back right now that's basically the colors this thing is feeding off and it's violent like the shrimp it is a nasty little creature okay um it essentially has these little it has claws or it has these little like pummeling balls they call it that to hit snails for it to eat essentially it can create so much force punching these snails that it creates a vacuum in the water that like super heats the water when it's hitting these things it's incredible

oh my god it is also a super fascinating looking animal i need to look crustacean i don't know yeah um wait let me pull one up oh wow so i'm looking at a mantis shrimp right now it's kind of it looks like a an insect underwater it is it is exactly that aura glow note 10 color and it's uh it's not a friendly looking crustacean either it's poised it is standing upright arched back and ready to mess your day up if you're a snail she gets a costume that looks like this like full size it's it's incredible i can't even describe how good it is how much i was laughing and still bewildered at the end of it of like it's basically the arms and the head features of this with, uh, like an old crusty suit, like a, like seventies lawyer would wear something like that.

That's awesome. It's incredible. It's about 20 minutes long, but the video is, it's so good. I will have to check it out. This is part of why we're going to do this is like either Andrew will share a video with me or I'll share a video with Andrew. We'll pass back and forth. And you know, if you guys have good stuff that you want us to share that you don't think we've seen definitely

pass it our way the waveform twitter is always open yeah uh but speaking of uh aura glow i think that that jumps us right into our big topic samsung galaxy note 10 um is this the death of the headphone jack is this it it's hard to say no i mean like after it samsung's kind of our was our savior for so long they were the no compromises what you called the note 9 what's the phrase you either you either you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become yeah a. Well, that's where we're at with Samsung right now. They've dropped their first flagship without a headphone jack. So now that we've declared that Samsung is the villain, you did a poll recently on Twitter just about the headphone jack

that I thought was pretty interesting. Do you want to share the results of that? Yeah. How about we'll take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk all about headphone jack and Galaxy Note 10. Sounds good. Alright. to 90 days in advance. See Uber app for details. This holiday season, the Center for Addiction and Mental Health is counting on your support.

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But generally Galaxy Note 10 got a lot of attention. The main thing that I think we're just sort of still lingering on is the lack of a headphone jack in a Samsung flagship. I think a lot of people thought they might have waited till the s11 to drop it that's what i would have guessed if they were going to yeah but they they ended up doing it pretty quickly here uh first of all are you a headphone jack guy or nah uh not really anymore uh i'm lucky enough to have bluetooth in my car uh so i've been get i got used to that i surprisingly don't put headphones in that often true um it's strange now with like google home all over my house i'd rather just blast it

until claire yells at me to turn it off and then uh i don't listen to headphones too much more i barely run either so maybe that's a big reason but so i did i did a poll on twitter uh it was a 24 hour poll and it was just i had a sort of a theory on the headphone jack, and I wanted to see how far off I was because I feel like in this tech world, we might be in a little bit of a bubble sometimes about things like headphone jacks. But I tested it.

I said, how much does a headphone jack weigh into your next smartphone buying decision? And I tried to give sort of a positive, neutral, and negative. Yeah, can I take a quick guess? I haven't seen the results. I voted, and saw the results like right when you posted it but just yeah so i feel like your poll like you said we're in this bubble your poll is not going to show what the average consumer thinks i think we all can agree on that that doesn't mean yes it should something should take away i would assume that the poll is going to be very pissed off that the

headphone jack is gone it was actually sort of surprising so the top option of none i don't care i already lost a headphone jack versus it would be a nice bonus like sort of a meh in the middle versus i 100 need a phone with the jack the winner was i don't care i already lost the jack at 40 that's interesting but then right in the middle at 36 was meh would be a nice bonus and then pulling up the rear at 24 was i need the headphone jack so the smallest amount of people need the headphone jack and the most amount of people are over it my my theory at the beginning of this was the headphone jack dying is becoming a meme. Okay.

Kind of like, you know, you know how everyone disliked YouTube Rewind, even if they didn't actually hate the video? Like, it was bad. Yeah, it was pretty bad. But, like, people decided to become, it became a meme that this would be the most disliked video, and we just hopped on board and disliked it. I feel like lately I've sort of observed everyone just gut reaction. Whenever you see a phone that's $1, bucks, you have to say it's too expensive.

Whenever you see a phone with no headphone jack, you have to say, I'm not buying this because it doesn't have a headphone jack. Like that's the gut reaction. And I was just curious if that was actually true or not. It seems to me, you're right. It's not a sample of the world. But I feel like it might actually sway it a little bit both ways in this tech enthusiastic audience there's a lot of people who have these specialty

needs who are really nerdy or into you know creativity or just need a headphone jack for certain applications you dj off of your phone you you edit video off your phone you just you're an audiophile you have a separate DAC all these things these are people in a small group yeah that are a vocal minority but the group of people who are really into tech who have gone totally wireless is also present in our audience sure like I went wireless five years ago when Apple started to rip the band-aid off and get rid of it in the first place so I don't know i feel like uh what do you think is the headphone jack sort of overrated at this point i don't know about overrated i mean like so we definitely there's a couple things you just touched on there's all audio files out there yeah we still

have lg we're assuming lg is probably gonna have yeah like lg has a dac i know we don't mention it much i think it's a small portion of people who are really that big of an audiophile that they want the DAC. And LG is there for you. And it's nice. Yeah. That's awesome. So if they take away the headphone jack, they're really going to piss some very loyal people off because they have a very loyal fan base for that. It's almost like the headphone jack with LG is going to start to become that niche feature that they hang on to that keeps that small market

share like what what's another similar thing uh because cameras everyone loves cameras i mean if you want to go really niche the note 10 it has an s pen the s pen sure so that's another thing like not a lot of people need or want an s pen today but it's not like the thing is it's we were never in an age where everyone had a stylus and now everyone's getting rid of it. So it's this weird it's this weird thing. We're sort of moving on from it. But people who are, quote, lagging behind always have their reasons. But yeah, one thing I find really interesting with Samsung ditching the headphone jack is we've even people who have like Bluetooth headphones and are ready for that wireless thing.

You hop in a car. It might not even be your car. It might be an Uber. It might be your friend's car. They have an aux cord. Always. I don't have my headphone jack anymore. I feel like that's the biggest point into where losing headphone jacks sucks.

I get offered the aux cord in the Uber all the time. Yeah. I've tweeted it before. Yeah, that's a thing. But then what I find interesting is Note 10's not giving you a dongle either. Only USB-C headphones. So like, yeah. Yeah, only USB-C headphones in the box.

No dongle included in the box. I know a lot of guys switching to no headphone jack are at least including that dongle. Yeah, Pixel 3 did at least. So the Note is in a sort of an interesting place. And that kind of brings us to the rest of the Note because there's a sort of a feeling about the Galaxy Note that it's less of a power user's phone. But here's my stance on the Note because there's a Note 10 and the Note 10 Plus.

And I didn't have enough time to really talk through all of this in the video. This is perfect for the podcast. Instead of seeing it as a Note 10 and a Note 10 Plus, like a normal phone and a big phone, it really, really is, to me, the Note 10 Plus, like a normal phone and a big phone, it really, really is, to me, the Note 10 Plus is the next note, and the Note 10 is an additional note that's smaller. So it's like a Note 10 and a Note 10 minus, or light.

Yeah, there was a Reddit, a really good Reddit, not article, comment calling it the Note 10 and the Note 10e, which you would hope, though, the Note 10e would be a bit cheaper, but that's what it feels like. It feels like the... Yeah. I mean, it's a knockdown in price,

not by a ton, but it's $950. It's a 1080p screen. It doesn't have expandable storage. It has less RAM. It has all these things that are just a little bit knocking it down, but the size is really what they're doing is they're offering a note to people who are,

I don't know if intimidated is the right word, but they didn't really want that gigantic phone. Yeah. The only problem I see with that is like, there are power users who want that version of a smaller phone too. So it's really unfortunate that let's give you all the specs in the big one, but if you want the small one, you're going to lose and you're not just losing one or two things. There is a big difference between the specs they have in the plus in the big one, but if you want the small one, you're going to lose. And you're not just losing one or two things. There is a big difference between the specs they have in the

plus and the specs they have in the regular. Yeah. Your RAM, which I don't know if you'll notice the difference between eight or 12 gigs, but that is 33% more RAM, right? That's a good amount of RAM. Your storage can go from 256 to 512. So double your storage on the big one. Expandable. Expandable with micro SD. And here's the thing is when you go to one of these Samsung briefings, and I don't really talk about this much in the video. So I guess this is also great for the podcast. When you go to these briefings, you're sort of given a presentation by Samsung. And it's up to you to parse that information and share it the way you want.

So they'll tell you, hey, no headphone jack, but we're doing this because we wanted to include a larger battery. And I hear that and I'm like, well, Samsung is already just taking the wind out of the no headphone jack articles by saying bigger battery. But to me, like this phone has a giant pen in the side of it, like all the way down the side,

like they could have included a headphone jack and had a slightly smaller battery, and that would have been okay. But they sort of choose how to present to you all this information. So I think one of the things was 90-something percent of Note users, they figured, would be okay with that amount of storage because they didn't have that much stuff on their phone. Like half a terabyte was enough, which is probably true. But for those people who needed expandable storage, the note 10 plus is the only way to go it's a tough one it seems the price difference is only what about 150 bucks 150 for the for the base of the for the base note 10 versus 10 plus it seems like a hard sell to go note 10 right because at that smaller phone for 950 bucks you also have the s10 plus sitting right there which is lower it's cheaper now so you're you're probably going to be

swayed to the cheaper phone and then you're going to have s11 come out at probably around the same size uh it is a tough sell but when i played with it this is always what happens like the one that's like tough to convince you to buy you actually use it and it's like a really nice experience like I could actually reach the corner of the screen and it was a sort of a comfortable pocketable size you have a way bigger screen in a body the size of the s10 mm-hmm so it's a really comfortable phone to use but yeah as far as people who are sort of spec peeping and and checking what's what you're getting on paper that is a tough sell it's a it's an interesting choice i think something that's

also interesting you see all these people on i read reddit a lot our android we read you all the time we know some of you like us we know some of you really don't like us hi our android yeah what's going on um but the s pen yeah do people use the s pen and i think we sent out or we must have said in last year's video or something wondering if people use the s pen and we got a lot of feedback well you had a note for a couple months i don't know eight for a little bit i liked it a lot uh how much i use the s pen uh grocery list that's about it uh or when snapchat was popular it was it was fun drawing on drawing on things i'm a terrible artist so but finger painting versus a stylist that's much different much different did you get any props for like your quality artwork like no i was too

embarrassed to send it to anybody so that's hilarious okay yeah i no i'm not a big s pen user um for me it's screen-off memos. Okay, yeah, yeah. So I didn't use, like, I take notes already in Google Keep, but if I wanted to, like, take a quick note or write a phone number down or something quick, I would just take the S Pen out, write it down, and then at the end of, like, every couple days, I'd just check Samsung Notes and have my screen-off memos and then just transfer them to Google Keep.

Other than that, I don't really draw on things i mostly sign documents on my mac or my ipad or something like that so not a huge one for me but there are groups of people out there who love that yeah we we got a bunch of emails and some tweets about people who do things uh like landscaping or plumbing or or construction and stuff like that where for them it's a really easy way to take a picture in real time pull it up in front of their client and draw on it right what they want to show the client yeah that's awesome so there's really uses for it i mean there's there's always going to be that uh that small group that's that's going to cling to it the tightest but my my favorite feature of the note 10 we've talked you know, there's design and there's the specs are all high end.

Snapdragon 855, the RAM, the design, the display is beautiful, but it's only 60 hertz, only in air quotes. But my favorite feature is honestly that Aura Glow color. Oh, yeah. And I say color, but it's like seven different colors, depending on how you look at it. Now, this is going to be an impossible phone to shoot a video of pretty much i hate how hard this is going to be to make a video of because it's just a mirror it's reflection city um but wow that's a crazy looking it's really cool it's one of the coolest features that you will cover within 10 minutes of purchasing the phone oh yeah that's another thing like colors phone manufacturers are making some really cool

colors yeah except it's gonna get covered by a case almost immediately that's something else i need to pull i need to figure out how many people really put a case on their phone i feel like it's a lot higher than i think it is but yeah i think it is but is it clear cases are people just putting there are clear clear cases are becoming a big thing and you see a lot of phone manufacturers putting clear cases in the box now because they're making these awesome colors. I think colors, it's mostly marketing. This looks awesome. This is going to look awesome in a commercial.

You're never going to see it when you have it, but it's going to make you think about the phone. Yeah. All right, so Note 10. I feel like we're going to have a lot of opportunities to talk about it in later episodes, especially after we review it and get it in our hands for longer but from that hour we played with it it was pretty sweet but we all know what's coming and what's coming up is smartphone season is what i like to call it is uh the beginning of the madness of all these companies dropping their hottest tracks and by tracks i mean products um for the holiday season we get tectober is what we call it that's where a lot of them end up yeah uh september we end up getting we're gonna have

how about i just go through the list right now so coming up for the rest of this year note 10 note 10 plus iphone 11 i guess that's what it's called. Yeah, or XI. iPhone XI and iPhone XI Plus. Let's just call it 11. Yeah, let's just call it 11. iPhone 11 and 11 Plus. We're going to get that ROG phone 2. We've got to talk about that for a little bit. We're going to get Pixel 4 and probably a Pixel 4 XL.

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The guide is free to you at netsuite.com slash waveform. netsuite.com slash waveform. The guide is free to you at netsuite.com slash waveform netsuite.com slash waveform. All right, we're back. So smartphone season, we got to cover all the phones coming up for the rest of 2019. First of all, we have Note 10 and Note 10 Plus. We sort of talked about it already, but they're in sort of an interesting place. $950 for the Note 10, $1,100 for the Note 10 Plus. But but obviously we've seen them now we have our impressions the rest of these are going to be purely based off rumors and speculation um iphone 11 what are you into what have you seen so far let's see i feel like the only big rumor right now about the 2019 iphone 11 is the triple camera yeah pretty much what we're all

seeing that's what we're all talking we're gonna get so we're gonna get some sort of a new chipset i guess we'll call it a13 for now um there are rumors about reverse wireless charging which was also quietly added to the note 10 and 10 plus uh but for also charging your airpods which will be pretty cool which will be nice because you don't have air power exactly so you know you just get your little wireless charging pad with your phone um and also having three models of the iphone again very similar design except for that triple camera but iphone 11 11r and 11 max is i guess what we'll call them yeah but the triple camera is what people are focused on no pun intended yeah it's it's exciting it's cool it looks pretty bad i mean it different. So we're used to a super clean Apple

look. Everyone hated the double camera at first too. So it looks rough. The funny thing is there are so many other triple cameras out right now that look, you know, more or less fine. Like the, the OnePlus 7 Pro, you know, we look at this like little vertical layout. It's fine. It's not like we're looking at the back of our phones all that much but then you have mate 30 pro mate 30 pro has a little alien look but it's a little smaller and it's in the center so yeah it's fine we get uh the note 10 that just came out triple cameras it's fine uh so this sort of well pixel 4 is also going to have it but this sort of off to the side giant array this block of like weird look it's like and also it's it's not quite evenly it's not on the four corners well so what

looks weird is that the triangle camera array might not look that weird except then you just throw this flash right on top of it which just makes it weird yeah that's what makes it weird yeah it does seem though like the reason it's in a triangle is to be equidistance apart which i'm sure has something to do with depth sensing right so i'm sure there's a reason behind it yeah there's a whole uh diagram already as google continues to intentionally leak parts of the pixel 4 of all the sensors in the front of the pixel 4 which include i think radar was one of them like a whole bunch of strange, but they're intending to do some AR stuff with depth sensing with that front camera array, face unlock, things like that. Maybe even gestures with your hand. But yeah, that whole back array will also be probably used

a lot for some VR and AR stuff. Yeah, definitely. For sure. So that's pretty much it for 2019 iPhone rumors. Again, design looking pretty similar. I guess if it broke, don't fix it. I did a video on the models that we got of the iPhone, but that doesn't mean we don't have fun talking about 2020 iPhone or 2021 iPhone when they finally start to make a little bit of a bigger change. My favorite easily is ProMotion display. Yes. Easily. when are they going to do either a 90 or i guess they should just go all in and do 120 hertz oled on the iphone god that would be great ipad pro looks so good yeah that needs to be in a phone it just needs to yeah so yeah there's already that rg phone too which we'll hit in a second that has 120 hertz oled so we know it's physically possible

and apple's never a first mover they have what's called a second mover advantage where they'll they'll work on a or they'll wait for sort of technologies to mature before they implement them but i would really like 120 hertz display in the iphone please please uh high refresh rate's been something that uh pc gamers have had for a long time and kind of hoarded to themselves. And it's really fun to see it hit the consumer market. And first of all, thank you, Razer, for being the first phone that I know of to throw that out there. Yeah. It was, the screen may have not been the best screen in the world, but it was hard to go back to a regular phone after that.

If we can give the iPhone props for moving the headphone jack, if we can give the Note props for making phones bigger, if we can give that one random Sharp Aquos phone props for thinning bezels out, we can give the Razer phone props for starting a trend of higher refresh rates. And I'm super, I'm here for that. I can't wait till every phone has this.

A lot of regular consumers are not gonna notice the difference until they have it in their hand maybe not even at first but when they go back to something else they're going to be like what is happening right now and that's why I'm so into the iPad so I've been using as I've said in sort of tweets

and videos of the iPad Pro with a 120Hz display all the time as my main like computer and at the same time my OnePlus 7 Pro as my main like computer and at the same time my one plus seven pro as my main phone with a 90 hertz display so in the back of my head as i'm testing the note 10 i'm like this is a great phone i know it has a snapdragon 855 i know it's got 12 gigs of ram i know it's 1440p it looks great but it just feels a little bit stuttery and maybe it's just my eye because you guys know me i i look at 24 fps video and i think it looks choppy compared to 30 sorry brandon yeah i mean we've had we've

accidentally had the camera rolling at 24 it pops up on the top down set he's like what is this what's going on why is it 24 turn it off um so i love me some high refresh rate um but that that's yeah that's usually the most exciting thing for me with the new iPhone. We're also expecting the 2020 iPhone. The 2020. 2021. Speaking of, what'd you call it? Second hand advancement?

Second mover advantage. Second mover advantage. Possibly rumors of a folding iPhone. Yeah. Is that what we want though? I don't know. The funny thing is is people have said while it's a possibility it seems more likely that it's a folding ipad that comes out

first yeah which i think is i think cool the thing about apple is apple as incredibly massive and diverse as they are as a company they're they're an iphone company yeah like they they they sell the iphone to the world and everything else sort of comes after that um and that's just a simple way of saying like going with a folding phone like drastic drastically changing the iphone design like that i feel like they would have to either make it a new line of product or like bring it down from the iPad or something like that. So there could be an iPhone and then also a folding phone that they call something else. The folding iPhone. You don't think it would have an iPhone name?

Yeah, maybe I have. Like we have Galaxy Fold. Yeah, yeah. Maybe iPhone Fold or whatever. Like it's a separate thing. But I feel like, yeah, they're going to keep that slab going as long as they can. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't think they'll ever get rid of the regular

iphone it's iconic yeah their phone wouldn't be the only iphone yeah yeah for sure uh yeah no i do miss the galaxy fold and i i think folding phones have a a place in our future in some time as that tech gets better but we've we saw that uh that royal flex by that that thing is a mess yeah i don't know if 2021 is when it's going to come out because Apple is probably not going to come out with it until someone has it down and then they're going to perfect it. Yeah, that's just going to happen.

So that's just going to happen with Apple. Why don't we do Pixel 4? Yeah, let's do Pixel. Pixel 4 has a, oh man, it's playing with my emotions right now, these rumors about the Pixel 4. So I don't know if you've seen the latest batch of rumors um it's even hard because i wrote some of this last night and i've already changed some of it this morning oh my god it's all over the place so okay the latest that

i've seen so pixel 4 we've seen is going to have as google starts to like tease this on their own it's going to have the corner triple cameras yep it's going to have uh no not i thought it was double cameras oh yeah so possibly dual i believe it's only dual cameras so possibly dual cameras and then a third sort of depth sensor and then a flash but that same design that they've shared um it's gonna have a bit of a forehead it's not gonna have a notch but it's gonna have some bezel going on uh and it's gonna have uh of course stock android it's gonna have the squeeze it's to be similar to the Pixel 3 and 3 XL. But then on top of that, the rumor that's, you know, kind of eating away at me right now that I don't think is true, but I really want to be true.

Oh, I already have the answer for you. I know what you're going to say, so go on. The 90 hertz display. Never mind. Never mind. And the DSLR attachment. That's okay. I have some answers for you really you're

not going to like okay well sorry let me just say for a second the specs i am i i'm like okay with like the pixel has not been a spec king for a while it's got uh you know not that much ram 4 gigs in the past they said they're going to be 6 gigs now you know still not a ton um usually you can get away with that if it's really well optimized, like say the iPhone is. But Pixel sort of had memory issues. So that's, you know, a little bit middle of the road. But 90 hertz OLED display, I would absolutely love. But the rumor is also slightly smaller batteries, 2,800.

Yeah, those batteries, I was surprised with those. It's also a big gap between. So what are they saying? They're saying 2,800 for the regular and 3,700 for the XL? Yeah. Is it that much bigger? It needs almost 1,000 more. I mean, when you look at the gap between Note 10 and Note 10+, it's also, what is it, a 900 milliamp hour difference,

3,500 to 4,300, so 800 milliamp hour difference. But yeah, 2,800 is a small battery in 2019 and if you put a 90 hertz display on that smaller phone and that small of a battery i'm already concerned yeah so uh yeah pixel you know it'll have wireless charging it'll maybe be water resistant it'll probably have pretty good speakers 90 hertz display would be great but yeah i'm you know sort of middle of the road about that spec sheet but then well real quick before we get to attachment if we're going to talk about cameras we're seeing double cameras for the first time which is exciting like yeah right we've only had single cameras but hey you're excited about this much it seems like it's going to be a regular and a

telephoto which i'm not as excited about yeah i don't see why you would there's there's so little benefit to a telephoto lens especially on a phone like the pixel computational photography is their forte they to be fair they had this feature that they were trying uh i forgot what it was called but it was supposed to use digital zoom and then sort of use a gyroscope to measure how you move your hands to to improve sharpness on digital zoom um so in theory a 2x telephoto or 3x or something could help with that but obviously the ultra wide would be the way to go i'll take a wide any day yeah that's uh that's a little weird to me that they wouldn't do that yeah portrait mode on the single camera on the three is so good already also really good i don't need a telephoto that's gonna help me with the depth sensing or

anything like that i'd much rather have a wide i don't want to i don't want to rant on it for too long because they might do the ultra wide but i figure when it does come out you'll hear from me yeah hear from me but uh what are you talking about with this all right so let's go to dsl i believe it was a couple days ago we heard about this dslr attachment yeah um kind of everyone's freaking out here's what red tried to do couldn't do and now we're gonna throw it on a camera that yep that has a better camera already not true not true there's a miss miss quote i guess it is dslr software enhancements oh it's gonna be a pro mode basically oh okay well that's that was way off from what i was

originally reading i was originally reading something along the lines of there will be an attachment that you can buy to give it better quality i think that's what everyone was reading that is not what's happening does not seem like it i mean i can't completely confirm that but it's let me just check i mean this doesn't shock me we've seen attempts at modules on phones before motorola might be the only one i've actually seen do it somewhat successfully, and they don't even have that great of a camera module. I actually did a pretty harsh review on their Hasselblad Moto mod a little while ago. But yeah, Red has talked about doing one, hasn't done one.

Yeah, this isn't something I was crossing my fingers for or anything. Yeah, it was exciting. And then, uh, so it seems like, uh, Stephen Hall from nine to five Google, uh, he said source reach out to me and said, I was not talking about physical hardware attachment. I was talking about a DSLR software feature for the camera app. Oh, okay. Yeah. Big difference.

All right. So you know what? That sort of brings pixel four down into phone. I'm going to carry because I love the camera, but also get very disappointed with all the time because of specs. Pretty much. Well, that sort of leaves us with, I think, the last big one. Yeah.

ROG Phone 2. This is kind of like the Dark Horse one, which shouldn't seem like a Dark Horse one when you purely just read the specs out because this is like dream phone category specs. That might be the most common thing people tweeted at me when the spec sheet came out. Dude, they made your dream phone. And my dream phone was a little more nuanced. There were some design things I would have wanted,

but holy hell, the spec sheet is insane. So let's just run down it real quick because it's a real phone. It's not rumors anymore. This is going to be coming out. I'm going to be reviewing it. They're going to make a matte black version they told me which i mean geez asus what are you doing to me uh so it's an android phone similar design to the rog phone one it's going to have what's what's the size of the screen i forgot so 6.6 inch 1080p 120 hertz amoled display yeah

that's right there. That's already pretty sick. I don't think anyone else is anywhere near that. Snapdragon 855 Plus. So a little bit faster than the 855, but you're going to have better GPU performance. 12 gigs of RAM. Up to half a terabyte of UFS 3.0 storage, which is the super fast storage we've seen in a couple other phones like the OnePlus 7 Pro and the Galaxy Fold.

Love that. 6,000 milliamp hour battery. This is the one that a lot of people are like, whoa, what's going on here? If you can fit a headphone jack and a 6,000 milliamp hour battery, it is a little bit chunky, but that's fine.

Does it have a headphone jack? It has a headphone jack, yeah. This phone is top to bottom uh it's killing the game it's it's absolutely killing the spec game it should also have fast charging it should also have uh dual cameras it should also have a 24 megapixel front-facing camera but really that that's the lineup that people were most into is the 120 hertz display the snapdragon 855 plus and 12 gigs of ram and your 6 000 milliamp hour battery that that's uh rog phone 2 for you that thing could run crisis probably of all the phones i would pick that one

yeah that's uh that's a lot going on now so who's gonna buy this phone because it's also like you would think putting all those specs in a phone would instantly make it the best phone. Not necessarily true. There's a lot of people who care about cameras, and I don't think this is going to have the best camera. Probably not. It would be easy to tear down this phone and say it doesn't have a great camera. But this is not for people taking tons of photos. Not at all. This is a literal gaming phone for people who just want

straight up the best performance and happens to be awesome in day-to-day use because of the display. This is going to be great. Yeah, I mean, probably the only things you can really pick at it with

are the camera potentially, which for the majority of people is going to be totally fine. You're still going to be able to see what's going on. Yeah. If you're sharing where you are and stuff like that, it works.

Yeah. And then design-wise, it's not quite it's very rgb very uh pc gamer does it still have that glowing logo on the back it probably does yeah and has like fan attachments for it and stuff yeah so it's it's for a certain type of uh certain type of person that wants uh all that yes and more but you're gonna get it with rog phone too and it's already coming out also later this year but i would say definitely stay tuned for the for the actual video if i want to get in my hands because again they said to me they're making a matte black version for the final one when it releases and well if i don't love that phone they

must have done something horribly wrong yeah well it seems like though software is rumored to be more like Zenfone 6, which was way closer to stock Android than the original ROG phone because original ROG was, we weren't. A lot of skin happening. The skins were rough. Yeah. So it seems like Asus has heard people not liking that. And I give them a ton of credit for probably doing a ton of work on their skin

and then pulling back real hard. But people really liked it in the Zenfone 6. So, yeah, bold move. Good response. Yeah. I think ROG 2 is going to be the dark horse flagship coming out amidst some pretty crazy ones. Right. All right.

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