Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Tech Trivia Gameshow!

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

With an abnormally slow news week wrapping up, Marques and Andrew battle it out in a fan-driven tech trivia show hosted by David Imel and Adam Molina! After the intense game show clash, we follow it u...p with a few Q & A questions sent in from you, our listeners. As the long, hot days of summer are finally upon us, crank up the AC and enjoy! Links: Subscribe to the pod & share with friends: http://bit.ly/WaveformMKBHD Subscribe to the pod on YouTube for full videos: https://bit.ly/WVFRMPodcastYouTube Best Mac Ever: https://bit.ly/35MUnNY https://twitter.com/wvfrm https://twitter.com/mkbhd https://twitter.com/andymanganelli https://twitter.com/AdamLukas17 https://twitter.com/DurvidImel https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ shop.mkbhd.com https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:42 And I'm Andrew. And we've got a third host. It's a special format this time it's a game show is a little bit all over the place it's kind of wild we've got questions from different sources we've got different answers and we've also got some Q&A after everything so it's gonna be a fun one but that's what waveform is all about in the middle of summer buckle up so the format for this game show is going to be David hosting asking the questions me versus Andrew Answering the questions. We both have an iPad here in front of us David's got the host iPad so he can start the countdown and we can literally buzz in whoever buzzes in first
Starting point is 00:02:20 We'll get to answer and then the questions themselves are mostly about Tech from the first half of this year. So it's June. We're right around the halfway point of 2021. We've got a fair amount of tech that's come out, a fair amount of videos and projects that we've worked on. And so that, in theory, is what the questions are about. Some of them are written by Adam and David. Some of them are actually written by you guys from the discord
Starting point is 00:02:45 So we've we've yeah pinged you guys and asked you I have not checked to that channel of the discord yet So you guys have been writing some great game show questions I hear and we'll try to answer them It's been killing me because somebody like pinged me in it, but I refuse to click on the actual channel So I don't see any I just had a notification sitting for like 24 hours and it's driving me insane I'm glad you didn't check I'm glad you didn't cheat that's good alright that's what he says at least yeah I guess I just wanna
Starting point is 00:03:12 you have all the questions already that you collected so may the best trivia buzzer win I guess yeah a lot of these are definitely from the videos that we made in the first half of 2021. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I really hope I get these then. Or at least that I know them. Even if I don't buzz first, I hope I know them. All right. Adam, you ready? Oh, wait. Do we want to... Adam made correct and incorrect sounds.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, really? So do you want to give us a little test example here, Adam? Give us a right answer sound. All right. And give us a little test example here, Adam? Give us a right answer sound. All right. And give us a wrong answer sound. Okay. All right. I know which one I want to hear.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm really insult to injury with that wrong answer sound. All right. All right. I think we're ready. Ready? Yeah. Okay. Question one.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Name one or all of the topics from the first episode of this year's Waveform podcast. Marques hit it first. Yeah, he did. I buzzed. It's got to be CES. We must have talked about CES at some point during January's first episode. No? Yeah. We didn't talk about ces at all because the first episode wasn't really yeah it's pre there wasn't really a ces and it was pre probably when i think it was because ces was like the six we skipped the very the very first friday was january 1st and then the next friday still would
Starting point is 00:04:41 have been before when quote unquote ces comes out we didn't even talk about the fact that we're having a virtual. Yeah my I get do I get a chance you gotta hit the buzzer though so I can get you points okay I think I'm gonna guess that there is a did you say I have to name all of them or you can name I'll give you
Starting point is 00:05:02 points based on how many you can I'm gonna guess there was a what are you excited for this year Q&A that's all I really have a guess for it to be honest okay there's yeah okay Marquez do you want to rebuttal no I don't remember okay I feel like I should give you one point Andrew because it was smartphone rumors and predictions, which is kind of what are you excited for? I thought it was specifically a Q&A, though. So I won't give you a point.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Don't give me a point. I won't take it. So, I mean, what's kind of funny about that, this is our first year of doing it, or we just started weekly podcast stuff, so it's way more jumbled together than it used to be. Yeah. All right, 0-0.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Okay, yeah, great start. All right, 0-0. Out of the gates. Sick. Almost. Gates are open. Question two. Wait, what was the answer?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh, right. All right, the answer was actually 2021 smartphone rumors or predictions. The Taycan sets a new cross-country cannonball record. Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow, we did that that early? Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. Yeah. And then the next episode was probably the interview. Yep. I think it was, like, directly after that. Yep. Okay. Cool.
Starting point is 00:06:13 All right. Question two. Buzzer finger ready. Ready. What was the most viewed NKBHD video so far this year? Marquez got it first air tags unboxing and demo yeah correct yeah yeah apple hard i was i originally thought f-150 that's got to be like second or the president i think yeah yeah air tags, I think 7 million people have watched that video. AirTags is nuts. 7.2 or something, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I think F-150 is like 5.9 or something. I was like kind of sad that the unboxing and demo got like 7.2 and then our actual like analysis of the market got like 4. That's tech YouTube, baby. That is always how it goes. I've said this before, companies love the fact that the first impressions are always the biggest, most lasting impression people have. So if you can make a great first impression, that's great.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Apple knows that. Google knows that. Samsung. They all know that. So, yep, that one didn't shock me. Yeah. I'm glad I remembered, though. I got it right.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah. One point. One point. Sick. Oh, look, I have a score. Oh. It says I have one point on the iPad. You can just tell me how bad I'm losing the entire time.
Starting point is 00:07:25 All righty. Sick. Exciting. All right. For the record, that question was from Rich Mondulo on Discord, and the first one was from Forsbox7. Nice. Thank you to both of you.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I hope you all have great usernames. I'm banning both of you because I got them both wrong. Wow. Dang. You guys should be scared of Andrew. wrong so you guys should be scared of Andrew I don't know how I've gotten that like everyone says Andrew's scary on discord
Starting point is 00:07:51 so like you tell like Andrew's the least scary person boss well I don't know you're talking about well now I have one place to be scary so all right ready on question three what is the first graphic slash Easter egg that Adam All right. Ready? Buzzers on. Question three. What is the first graphic slash Easter egg that Adam put in the video version of the podcast? Ever?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yes. Oh, man. So the first episode that he edited you guys not watch the video podcast no I do but I'm trying to remember the first one there's so many I know yeah the first episode oh wait the first video one was like I think we titled it
Starting point is 00:08:39 our first podcast our first video podcast um I don't know I don't know I don't remember the topics because I don't remember the tight because the title was that it just needs to be the first graphic yeah but I feel like I need to that Adam added I thought I was gonna be a trick question and maybe be like the new intro that we created that Michael created,
Starting point is 00:09:07 but I'm stuck. Do you want to work together on this one? Yeah, we might get timed out. Yeah. What is a timeout? Is this,
Starting point is 00:09:19 does the boat horn count as the timeout? That might be, we might have to have adam adam should probably answer this one you should fill us in the first one was the headshots that we all took in the studio because you guys were mentioning everyone in the studio and i had their headshots pop up in the video i never ever would have guessed that yeah i don't know if i would have said yeah it's an easter egg i guess that's why i would have guessed it was like some sort of if it was a total guess i would have guessed like a car graphic of like some some graphs that showed
Starting point is 00:09:53 like ranger zero to sixties or something just because we talk about evs all the time and that's like a nice little yeah a nice little graphic yeah that came from maverick on discord and he said to do or she the easter egg but i watched like 20 minutes of that first episode and could not find one so i changed it to graphic yeah nice all right good to know you guys are way behind hey if that teaches us anything it's watch the video podcast there is definitely way more to this trivia in the video version than there is in the audio version. Adam also edits the crap out of these to make them look really nice. This will also be in a clip as well.
Starting point is 00:10:33 If you listen to this whole episode and really want to see just the trivia aspect, just do a clip. That'll be there too. All right. This next one is kind of fun. Okay. one is kind of fun okay the way this works is uh in otter in otter in honor of the oppo find x3 pro with a microscope camera oh here are three more than three here are many close-up images of random objects oh whoever gets the most correct wins okay did you guys go take these or are these the ones from our video? No, these are not even actually
Starting point is 00:11:06 necessarily from the Alphafindex. Okay. They're just microscope photos. In honor of that. Oh, I thought I was going to have to remember what we shot our photos of. No. I was actually kind of excited for that.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I could have done that. All right. Okay. I'm going to show you guys the first one. Now we just have to identify what they might be. Describe them too. Oh my God. You got to hit the buzzer. Of the first one? Now we just have to identify what they might be. Describe them, too. Oh, my God. You got to hit the buzzer.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It looks like hair. Describing it's hard because I want to hit the buzzer first. It just looks like a paintbrush tip really, really zoomed in, but there's no way. Andrew? A paintbrush tip really, really zoomed in. Adam? Correct.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Wow. Got to hit the button, baby. Wow. Gotta hit the button, baby. Wow. Yeah, for those audio listeners, someone decided to say it out loud without pressing the button. So Andrew wins. Sick. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:56 That's a good. I was thinking like regular brush. Ready? Yeah. Get ready to hit the buzzer. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Describe it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Black, textured with a white X through the middle. I'm guessing like paint. Oh, Marquez. Black X with a texture. I'm guessing like paint. No. Wait. Andrew's next.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Tile and grout? No. Okay. we want to go again I mean it looks like a piece of apparel with like rubber like letters on it but I yeah I couldn't tell you what exactly that is it's just it's an X
Starting point is 00:12:41 it's a really zoomed in X alright technically true That is, it's just an X. It's a really zoomed in X. Technically true. It's a key on a keyboard of an X. A keyboard, oh. Wow. So I was right, technically. I mean I didn't buzz, whatever. I don't deserve that point. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That was tough. Yeah, okay. Okay. All right, third one. Ready? Yes. Oh I know what that is, but you beat me Andrew ballpoint pen. Yeah. Yep. Hold on. Okay Marquez is too busy making sure it's a fun active show and I'm just like zeroed in on the buzzer right now You ready? Here we go. Number four.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's interesting. It's like kind of cliff-like, Andrew. I'm guessing the edge of a carpet? Nope. I'm gonna buzz. I might be wrong, but I think it looks kind of like the side of a triscuit. It does. It has hair on it, though of like the side of a triscuit. It does.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It has hair on it, though. I mean, maybe a triscuit that landed on the floor where Mac lays down. Yeah, yeah. It does. So it's tan. It has grooves. I think it looks like fabric because it has little pieces of hair coming off. But it's like right at the side.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I'll let you buzz again if you want to. This feels like an unfair advantage for audio listeners marquez is leaning over the table looking really closely into the screen he's trying to magnify this i still can't tell what that is i don't know all right it's a book like pages of a book oh page, page. Oh, from the side. Wait, can I see again? Oh, from the side. Like if you put the pages all together. Things look quite different when they're magnified.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Is that? Can I guess what book it is? I think it's just a random image we found on the internet. I don't know. I don't know. Cannot confirm. Oh, yeah. You guys didn't take these pictures.
Starting point is 00:14:40 These are not up-to-date. Oh, man. I forgot. I keep thinking these are things that are in the studio. No. Okay. All right. Here we go again ready what does it look like a crystal like a crystal on something? I'm going to... I buzzed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm just going to say I think it's ice. I don't know what part of ice. No. Sand? No. This is a really good picture. I know, right? But I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I buzzed again. If only the Oppo Find X3 Pro could do that. Salt? You're close. I will tell you you're close. It's very clearly a close-up shot of something that looks like a crystal. So I don't know what essentially it could be. What else did I think of?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Salt is like... It's a diamond. Nope. Salt was close. Very small diamond. Salt was close. Oh, salt was close? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah, I don't know what else could be close to salt that's close in that it's a seasoning and then... Yeah, I think I give up. Okay, do you give up? Yeah. I do. It's sugar. Sugar. The sugar cube? Really? I didn't know
Starting point is 00:16:02 sugar was that fine as close. No, yeah, that makes sense. Yep. The Opp cube? Really? I didn't know sugar was that fine as close. No, that makes sense. Yep. The Oppo Find X3 Pro could not have taken any of these. Maybe the book one. The ballpoint pen probably. If it had good enough lighting, I think it could. It did some good ones.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm hoping that eventually it gets this good, if they even make another microscope. I do remember we spent a lot of time with that. It's fun. We took pictures of everything in this studio. It's definitely fun. Yeah, I bet so if you oh if you if you showed me the photos from the video that we took I could probably identify like at least
Starting point is 00:16:34 three-quarters of the things we took photos of because I remember like wow that's what the pool table looks like that's what a pool cue looks like coffee bean match the head of a match key yeah, we had a lot. They were really cool. So, you know, gimmick feature on a phone, yes, but still pretty cool. Made for a great video, yeah. Still pretty cool. I debated using those pictures, but I thought it would have been unfair to Andrew.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, I mean, I think I recommended half of them. That was like a team effort if I was just running around throwing things at Marquez to take pictures of. Yeah, true. I appreciate trying to keep it. I tried PG. Thank you. Thank you. All right. All right Ready? Yes. Oh It's already started. Wait, is it? Yeah, I think so. Okay
Starting point is 00:17:20 Andrew was first screw Boom, yep, and I got the easy ones. Oh, Andrew's three. The fingers. It's all in the fingies, baby. Three to one. All in the fingies. Fastest in the West.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I need to buzz faster. Despite being on the East Coast. I need to buzz faster because there's no penalty for being wrong. This is true. Well, you get the other person gets a longer time to get there. Yeah, that's fair. Are you ready? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And just first? Soap bubble? Boom! Oh boy! I was gonna say that but then I got too high. I was a little worried about it because it just looks like a bunch of refractions kind of. It looks really cool. It looks really cool but I would almost expect the soap to look like that from further back, not that zoomed in.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I would expect zoomed in to be more specific on one refraction. Yeah. All right. This is the last one for this question. I need this. I need this. Whoever wins this one gets three points. Three points.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Okay. This could kill me, but yeah, let's see it. Can you turn it a little? It's very dark. It is very dark. Oh. That's Velcro. Boom.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Hey. I've seen Velcro from a bunch of weird angles. I don't know why. It's like a bunch of hooks. Yeah. It's just a bunch of small nylon hooks. Hook each other velcro what a great in vision thanks
Starting point is 00:18:48 NASA boom I just caught up on one question I can't feel that bad since my first point was based on stealing your answers yeah Andrew also won the last one so I have to give a little bit of an advantage Oh wait did you know win the last one or did Marquez win? No, we keep it fair. We keep it fair. I thought I lost the last one. Maybe you lost. It was very close. Well, I'll keep it fair from now on.
Starting point is 00:19:12 No, just keep it fair. Yeah, we're good. I just didn't want to have Marquez be too far behind, you know what I'm saying? Okay, 4-4. Back to regular questions. Okay. But first, let's take a quick break
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Starting point is 00:20:15 Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi Motors. Okay. This is an actual question, regular question. All right. Ready ready name the correct order of retro tech season two episodes and the bonus one that was youtube red exclusive is not not in there is not in there. That's the only one I'm completely positive on.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I know. Is that what they call it now? Yeah, I think it's called YouTube Premium now. Okay. Here we go. Number one, flying cars. Number two, teleportation. Number three,
Starting point is 00:21:04 this is where it's tough i think it's smart homes nope yeah do i just stop there i just can't guess anymore adam what do you think i mean i think it would be your benefit to stop there because if you guess any more than i'm giving you yeah okay fair okay all right i'm gonna here, but I don't know if I even know all. It's five, right? Five, yeah. Yes. Okay. I get to just go?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. Okay. Flying cars, smart homes. No. What? What? Beep. Flying cars was the hero.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Okay. For sure. Teleportation was the next best episode. Put it second. Loved it. Uh-huh. Then it was either smart homes or hyper, or hyper communication was the behind the paywall one, right?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Wearables is behind the paywall. Or what are we calling it? Hyperconnectivity. Hyperconnectivity, that's what it's called. Wearables is behind the paywall. So wearables is behind, so it was hyperconnectivity, smart homes. No.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Or I'm not doing the order, I'm just saying the rest of the three. Okay, okay, okay. Hyperconnectivity, smart homes, and what was the last one retro tech future wearables that was wearables you know the grass Tyson talked about flying cars humanoid robots you guys can you guys can buzz it I did it already oh you already did yeah you already got it don't just hit it again? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Oh, man. Does it start from the beginning? Okay, I know what it is now. I got it now. As soon as you're wrong, buzz it in so that. Oh, can I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I already messed this up. I already forgot the beginning ones.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I got it. Yeah, just give it to Marcos. I'm wrong. Just buzzing out? I buzzed it in because I remembered the end, but I forgot the ending already. He's tapping out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So number one, flying cars. Number two, teleportation. Yep. Number three, humanoid robots. Yes. Number four, smart homes. No. Hyperconnectivity, then smart homes.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I feel like we're at the part where we should just end this question and no one gets points. I'm giving you the viewpoints. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, getting five in a row is pretty difficult, especially knowing me. There were some favorite children in there. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:15 At least you both got four points now. Sick. All right. All right. Well, if any of you at home got that before they did, you can feel better about yourselves. That would be really impressive. Very impressive. If you got that you at home got that before they did you can feel better that would be really impressive very impressive if you got that one at home it is much harder because retro tech is shot so much different than we're used to where
Starting point is 00:23:31 it's like you're shooting all of those episodes at the same time oh yeah like you shot Neil in one day and that was for every single episode lots of overlap there yeah we're very used to a schedule of like when you guys see a video that was the last thing we worked on and it's very very very rare that we're working on something in between there so we just know like what do we work on last it was that's the last video and what we work on before that the video before that yeah so with that we shot for about eight weeks on and off in the studio and in the city a bit with the team. And when I was trying to remember the order, I was trying to remember the way the thumbnails appear
Starting point is 00:24:08 in the shelf in my head. That's what I was kind of. I remember when we were first doing all the thumbnails, we had like this, it was three on top, three on the bottom. And I was trying to imagine that. Where was Smart Homes again? Was that four? It was the last one.
Starting point is 00:24:22 The last one. I really thought I remembered Smart Homes bottom quarter, but maybe that wasn't the order. Maybe that's why I was also really messed up. Wearables was technically second, but it was the last last one last one yeah I really thought I remembered smart homes bottom quarter but maybe that wasn't the order maybe that's why I wearables was technically second but it was the YouTube premium one well it came out because it came out at the same time as the first one and they just like that paywall oh yeah for the record that question came from blood tiger XG shout out to the discord so now so now we're on the same page. It was teleportation, first episode. Sorry, flying cars.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Flying cars, number one. Teleportation, number two. Then we had humanoid robots, number three. Then we had wearables, number four. Hyperconnectivity. Hyperconnectivity, number four. Wearables, number five. No.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And then smart homes and then wearables was paywall. I'm just going to stop. Okay. I'm just going to stop. That. I'm just going to stop. That's okay. I would never be able to get this. That was a great question. That was a very, very good question.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't think I could even recite the last five things I had for dinner. That? Me neither. That sounds pretty hard, actually. Exactly. This is even harder than that. That's what I'm saying. Word.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Okay. All right. Number six. This one comes from Adam and I. We're still 4-4. Yeah, still 4-4. In the best Mac I've ever reviewed video, Mac has a few basic specs that pop
Starting point is 00:25:36 up on screen. What were they? Pop up on screen. What we talked about is specs I remember like a lot of things can I name one of them? there are three you can get a point for each one for each one I buzzed but I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:00 yeah you buzzed one of them was definitely his eyes so I'm going to say we went with like monochrome sensors up front i think i labeled that and then no we didn't yeah because i remember there was like i think we talked about that but we didn't there's a lot of things we talked about we talked about like wireless charging we talked about him just did we talk about speed like we just talked about him being fast but i don't think it necessarily i don't remember for those of if there's anyone also confused about Like we just talked about him being fast, but I don't think it necessarily, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:26:25 For those of, if there's anyone also confused about what we're talking about, the best Mac ever was a dog, not a computer. Yeah, yeah. If you're an audio listener, watch the video.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, you should definitely watch that video. We'll put it in show notes, but it was not a piece of tech. This was our April Fool's Day video, which was a blast to make. And we made a lot of jokes about, you have monochrome sensors in the front and the wireless charging on his bed and that he was fast and that he was bad at learning new tricks and stuff like that but i don't i think you guys
Starting point is 00:26:56 are overthinking it those are like the features from the video there's like one shot where you one shot yeah yeah i'm trying to think of what specifically it was on there. I can imagine the shot. Was it not the same shot that the thumbnail was? The physical shot? It was like, this is the mid-size model. Hold on. Can I buzz again? Andrew, are you going to
Starting point is 00:27:17 reclaim? I don't know. Give up your time? Yeah, I'll give up my time. You can buzz again if you want. We said it was the color. I don't remember. Give up your time? Yeah, I'll give up my time. I'll buzz again if you want. We said it was the color. I don't remember the color we made up, but we named the color. But we didn't list it on screen. We didn't? Also, I think we called it like mocha cream.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, we did. Yeah, it was a color name. That wasn't one of them? The mid-sized model? Is that the other one? No. We put his weight. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And his height. Yes. And his name? No. Man. Okay his height. Yes. And his name? No. Man. Okay, but. What did we write? What was his weight and his height?
Starting point is 00:27:51 And Andrew, you could buzz in. Oh, he's about 35 pounds. And his height was probably in inches. I just don't know what it is. Oh, weight in inches? Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't know. Like, I mean, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Huh. Andrew, you should know'm gonna weight should be weight should be 30 pounds and then height did we do 24 inches was it inches or was it feet can I do 2 feet or 24 inches you can do 2 feet
Starting point is 00:28:20 slash 24 inches was it centimeters because I have no idea 2 feet and how many inches? Oh, two foot three or something. Did we really measure it? I don't know exactly how tall it is. I think we did measure his height. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I don't remember. Two feet four inches? Yes. Oh, wow. That's pretty good. So I give you each two points because Marquez said weight and height and Andrew said the exact specs.
Starting point is 00:28:42 There's one more thing. There's one more thing there's one more thing cue the music weight height and one more spec and it's not color because we already it wasn't color it wasn't name did we it wasn't breed we didn't do the just like good boy rating right there did we that was at the end we just gave 11 out of 10 this one's a little hard so I can give you a hint but I thought it was it like model number like what model number year all right you get one point for that so but but then 2013 wow buzzin buzzin what I don't know what year 2014 yes boom got the year second try cool all right no I just like the 20 SYL. Yeah. That was incredible. I'm glad you...
Starting point is 00:29:47 It was the year after Hammerheads. Andrew's now two points ahead. It was, yeah. Eight to six. I'm sorry, Mac, if you're watching this. I promise I know you're seven years old. Don't you know how old he is? He knew your exact height and weight, so that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:30:02 That's pretty good. That's pretty cool. I don't even know my exact weight because it fluctuates. I don't know. Are we guessing? Buzz in. Damn. I mean, darn.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Okay, so question seven. Yes. How long is the longest and shortest videos in the first half of the year? You can say what the video is, and then you also get two points if you get close enough to the time code. What's close enough? You know. I'm just going to start spewing things, and you can tell me if I get any points. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Are you guessing longest or shortest? Longest. Okay. What I guessing longest or shortest? Longest. Okay. What I really think of the iPhone. Correct. Ooh. 20. No.
Starting point is 00:30:52 How long was that video? Ooh. 42 minutes. That's my guess. 46 minutes. And you can tell me if the ballpark, I don't know if I'm. 46, 20. Whoever's closer.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Andrew is way closer. Really? It's 47, 58. Wow's closer. Andrew is way closer. Really? It's 4758. Wow, nice. Okay. So it's one for each? We both got a point. We each got a point.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Okay. So shortest video is the other one? Shortest in 2021. In 2021, yes. Okay. This one usually gets me. I don't usually remember the shortest. The Mac video was pretty short.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I don't think it was Mac video, though. It's going to be an unexpected one. I'm guessing AirTags. Definitely not. AirTags had a whole demo and everything. It's got to be just an unboxing. Let me go with the, oh, can I buzz? Is it the iPhone 12 purple?
Starting point is 00:31:36 No. That's a good question. That was the second shortest. Shorter? Oh, wow. I know. I was actually really surprised that this was shorter than that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Wow. Did we announce anything? But we had like a two-minute like Luminar thing in the iPhone 12 thing. Oh, that's true. That's true. So that's why. It would have been the shortest. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Did we announce anything like channel specific this year? No. Like video podcast came out, but we didn't. Oh, that was like we threw that at the end of the video, right? Yeah. Think of it's six months.'s quite a while yeah a lot of stuff has happened that seems really old but isn't that old if you think about it yeah but what was small in the last year it doesn't even necessarily need to be a small thing it's just yeah that's video short i'm just trying to give you hints yeah he's like this
Starting point is 00:32:25 came out in january which makes me think it's not necessarily large no no it's not necessarily large small in terms of like importance is what i'm saying it's not necessarily small in terms of importance just because the video is short it's also hard because like we didn't do a straight up ios one we did like an ios the shortest videos one yeah the the shortest videos are typically unboxings because not much happens after the unboxing unless you get into first impressions there's event recaps but those are usually pretty long reviews are usually pretty long so maybe ooh maybe it's the i'm buzzing yep maybe it's the uh front facing camera behind the glass video that was pretty short no no that was a pretty short one though yeah yeah yeah that was that
Starting point is 00:33:12 was the third shortest really yeah oh my god i'm all over this one yeah i'm getting warmer i'm like pretty injured do you have a follow-up no do you Do you want to go one more hint? Okay. Do you want to reset the button and go one more hint? Okay. Sure. It was a phone. Mm-hmm. A video about a phone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And remember, six months. Was it the... So it could have been any time within the last six months. The Find X3? No. No. I wasn't sure if maybe we just did the most of the microscope stuff quickly and here's another hand it was a video did you did before I was
Starting point is 00:33:49 around before I was born before I'm just going through the phones in my head Sony was pretty long Samsung impressions I'm gonna go Samsung s21 impressions correct yeah that's how I started thinking of that cuz there's so many of them and there's gonna it's mostly ultra and then you kind of like yeah all right yeah and then and how long was it how long was oh I need this I need this to tie you right yeah how close do we have to guess first how close do we have to get whoever gets closer feel it out. Whoever gets closer. Whoever's closer.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yes. Whoever's a closer delta. Impressions. Six minutes, 55 seconds. Five minutes. No, six minutes, 54 seconds. Oh, this is savage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What was it? Six minutes, 28 seconds. I was going to go like 550, so I'm glad I waited. No, I think that still would have been closer. Okay. Yeah, Six minutes, 28 seconds. I was going to go like 5.50, so I'm glad I waited. No, I think that still would have been closer. Yeah, that would have been closer. I'm glad I remembered. That's the only reason I'm not playing. Can you buzz, Marques?
Starting point is 00:34:52 I can give you a point. Oh, there we go. Boom, 9-9. I told you it was going to end in a tie. Well, we have one question left. Oh, we do. Wow, okay. Actually.
Starting point is 00:35:00 How convenient. We have two questions left. Okay. Did we miss? That question came from ForsBox7 again. Great question. Great question. Yeah, these are Discord.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm really proud of y'all. They're pretty good. Like, I'm sure it was a total mess when we first started that channel, but, like, these are really good questions. Eventually it got good. Shout out to Discord. This is one of the questions. This might not be one of them, but I think it would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We found the most and least time. We we found the most viewed what was the least viewed do you remember the least you remember wait the least viewed video the least viewed video from the first half of this year oh oh man what is the least viewed from this i can find out right now i feel like there was one we were specifically watching and it was like having a hard time cracking a million and wait but you can't. This isn't points. We're just doing this for fun. Yeah, I know. But it's not a retro.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Like, let's not. Yeah, yeah, not a retro tech. Because, yeah, those didn't. I think it's actually Sundar's interview. Sundar's interview. I think. That's going to be, you're going to have to look through a lot of stuff right now.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That was 2.5. I think we have lower. I think Max is lower. The OnePlus watch and Sundar's interview had the same amount of views, actually. I'm going to weirdly say it's best Mac ever. I actually. I think it's like 1.6 million. 1.9 is best Mac ever.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Is it up there? But that's still kind of low. Yeah, that's one of the lows. There's one lower than that. In the last six months? Yep. One less than Max video. Actually, there's two less than that, the last six months yep one less than max video actually there's two less than that at least yeah there's at least two less than that i don't know what were they one was the one plus
Starting point is 00:36:34 nine review because the pro video did 3.5 the one plus nine did 1.8 the one that did even less than that was the ultimate custom playstation 5 oh right man that was like one of the best thumbnails though that thumbnail was so good and whatever happened to playstation 5 seo just being crazy well look at the other playstation 5 stuff and that's why i think we were a little later with that with all that stuff so that's probably why the the ps5 hype was kind of died down yeah I mean it's still still crazy but from what it was and people were starting to get their ps5 already by then so they're products and Mac's unboxing impressions has 11 million views insane okay all
Starting point is 00:37:19 right all right back to the official actually visit questions all right hit the yeah right boom all right this is last question right now there's two more the official questions. Back to the official questions. Um, alright. Hit the... Yeah, right. Hit the qualm. Boom. Alright. This is the last question, right? No, there's two more. Okay. Alright. Estimate the total length of waveform episodes from this year, from
Starting point is 00:37:37 the beginning of the year. Like, combined? Yeah, and you can do... I'll give points for minutes and hours. Oh my god. Estimate the total length of all of them from this year. So, wow. I bust. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I wish there was a noise. 70 hours? 70 hours, 20 minutes. No. You're way over. Way, way over. It's six months months and six months times four weeks each is 42 weeks
Starting point is 00:38:08 so I'm gonna go 42 hours wait oh yeah I am how are we closer but still way over oh my god I know I did that that would be total because this is episode 69 nice thank you and I just did on that so
Starting point is 00:38:23 yeah you're at 40 something. We're just doing this year. Yeah, just this year. I thought we renamed episode numbers for the start of the year, but that makes no sense. We have a lot of like 45 to 50 minute and then a couple 90 minute. It seems like we only do one or the other. To be honest, I would just average it at an hour.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That's what Marques just did. And I was over at 42. Yeah, but we haven't done 42 episodes this year. True, we're not fully through June. This is the second to last week in June. Oh, wait, because there's only 52 weeks in a year, so it should be like 26 hours. And February only has three weeks.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yo, Andrew definitely gets a point for that. 25.73 hours. Oh, that's lower than I thought. Wow, that really, though, just proves that both of us are really bad at math. All right, now this is a speed round for how fast can you do this math? How many minutes is 25.73 hours? This is Marquez's. He went to a smart school.
Starting point is 00:39:17 How many minutes? I went to film school. I have no chance. I haven't taken math since I was a sophomore in high school, I don't think. It's just multiple occasions. 24 times 60. Yeah. 25.73 times 60.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Well, okay. 25 times 60. 26. How did I do that? It's 15. 1, 5, 0. 1,500 plus. Adam, you got to do the math thing in front of us.
Starting point is 00:39:42 1,500 plus 70 times. 60 times .7 you said? Hey Google. .73. Is there one around here? Siri. Just give me 1540 ish.
Starting point is 00:40:00 1544. Okay. Close enough. Can you buzz in? 1544. Can you you buzz in 1544 can you also buzz in I just want to see the points you have oh you're both at 10 let's go
Starting point is 00:40:08 there's one last question mental math oh man okay if only this iPad had a calculator on it well I think I could have had that
Starting point is 00:40:17 last one wait is there a widget on the beta yet no alright last one alright you guys ready last question yeah
Starting point is 00:40:24 this is for it all. It all comes down to this. All right. How long to the nearest minute was WWDC? One hour, 59 minutes. I was going to guess one hour, 58 minutes. I was actually going to guess that. Well, you did this to me already, so I can't even feel bad. But I was actually going to guess one hour, 58 minutes. I was actually going to guess that. Well, you did this to me already, so I can't
Starting point is 00:40:46 even feel bad, but I was actually going to guess one hour 58 minutes because I feel like we downloaded it and I thought that's what it was. One hour 46, 49, so Andrew wins. The crowd goes wild. That's pretty savage, dude. Well done.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You have no honor sir I wasn't trying to do it like that I actually thought that's what it was I guess you could have guessed one minute over and Marquez still would have won true yeah I could have won both ways so you had a 50-50 chance of winning I guess you always had a 50-50 chance of winning yeah basically
Starting point is 00:41:18 literally whatever you guessed alright well that was close wow that was good that was really fun you both won one trivia did uh whose question was That was close. Wow. That was good. That was really fun. You both won one trivia. Whose question was that? Was that from Discord? No, that was one of ours. That was from one of yours. But the length of all Waveform episodes
Starting point is 00:41:33 comes from Discord user Luna Norton with a little duck. That's creative. That was creative. Yeah, again, Discord, big shout out to everyone on there. If you're not on Discord, it's linked in the show notes.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I think I have it as always in there now. Discord.gg. Definitely go check it out. Slash MKBHD. Yeah, pretty easy. There it is. I'm in there sometimes. Sick.
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Starting point is 00:43:33 We'll do both. We'll start with the video questions. We'll move on. But this is just a little Q&A because we like to bring this back on the podcast once in a while. We have David with us as well so we can all answer questions
Starting point is 00:43:42 and whatever we feel like answering. Let's do it. Yeah, I have stuff up on my phone so I'm just going to play it and then we'll... Okay. Do you think Google will ever reach the Apple level of ecosystem? Given the rumors of the new Google Pixel 6 with the Whitechapel SoC, which is made in-house in Google, damn, it would be awesome if Google had the level of integration such as Apple did. And also, which phones do you have in your pocket right now?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Peace. Okay. Bunch of parts to that question. Do I think they'll ever reach the level of integration of ecosystem Apple has? Just in the phone, I think they can do it with their own SoC, and I'm really looking forward to it. But their ecosystems are very different, actually. If you just look at
Starting point is 00:44:25 all the services that that google does that apple doesn't like gmail google search youtube google calendar that whole thing uh versus like what apple builds which is a bunch of different hardware products i don't see them being congruent anytime soon. But if we're just talking about the phone, which I think is what he's referring to, I do think they can basically match the level of integration. It just depends on how much we trust Google's Pixel team. Yeah, I was going to say, if you watch the video about
Starting point is 00:44:58 why Apple's features are always late, it's kind of that reason. It's like Google has all these teams that don't really work together and they just make random weird cool stuff even though it's slower now than it used to be. So they don't really work together to have that level of integration. And like Mark has said like hardware wise Apple's always just making their integration crazy. Google's hardware is, you know, they don't really have as much of the personal hardware. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So I don't really see it happening on either an app side or a hardware side, to be honest. I kind of feel like they're going to release the Pixel Watch and it'll have one or two integration features and then they'll forget about it. That's the thing, too. How long will it last? Because there are a lot more canceled Google products than there are uh canceled by google
Starting point is 00:45:49 yes i mean i think white chapel is the most excited we've been about like getting close to that in a long time because now we're just one more step closer to all the hardware being together and mutual like mutual but it's still like you said there's just so many different things and and android's whole thing has kind of been they work with a million different companies and like that's just it's never going to happen to the point that like apple has their walled garden thinking about white chapel for me is i think that it's going to be more about optimizing the phone and just making the apps run smoother and making everything feel smoother. But even though technically that would make the integration
Starting point is 00:46:29 with other hardware products that run Whitechapel better, I don't think Google will execute on that very well. So I think the phone will definitely feel smoother. Google Apps will maybe feel smoother. And maybe they'll be able to have some sort of like AirDrop thing that works between devices. But again, they make Chromebooks like you can unlock your chromebook but like it's not like there's a macbook pro from google and an apple watch from google and a home pod
Starting point is 00:46:53 from i mean they make a google nest max thing yeah it's not quite the same so audio yeah there's just not a there is some overlap which is why we view them as competitors but you know how well will they execute on it? I don't know. Probably not well. We'll see. I want to be optimistic. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I would love them to pull it off. Yeah, we should be optimistic. Can I insert a question or an answer? Yeah. I think that Google's going to take a cloud approach, and Apple does a lot of things hardware-based. But with Stadia and Google Drive and Gmail and all that stuff, they're trying to make all of their devices
Starting point is 00:47:28 seem congruent in an ecosystem but in the cloud. If Stadia is any indication of that, I'm not looking forward to it. Well, it's very true. Stadia, yeah. But that's the review. Stadia, yeah. Stadia, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 But the Whitechapel thing is interesting because if they do want to have this incredible level of hardware integration with a really powerful, well-optimized CPU, then that would work directly against this cloud computing thing that they're so good at. work directly against this like cloud computing thing that they're so good at so i don't know if it's just because they've seen it work really well on the phone that they want to attack it on the phone and then work with the cloud through other platforms and maybe there's like a multi-faceted google doesn't talk to each other approach where we'll do cloud over here and we'll do local processing over here but i think it's a combination because like a lot of the a lot of the way that apple stuff works well together is through icloud too yep like when you when you do things when you send out like i message and you do airdrop and you do like unlock your mac with your apple watch those all have to be logged into your icloud account yeah so that is fairly tied to a cloud
Starting point is 00:48:42 true we'll see uh this question I think would just be fun to do on the podcast. Can we see a behind the scenes shot of the setup for the video podcast? Yes. I'm going to take a selfie and Adam can just post it in the video. Boom. There we go. We're done. Now you've seen it. You've seen the scenes and now you've seen the behind
Starting point is 00:49:00 the scenes. Sick. Alright. Next video? Next video? You mean next question yeah video questions oh yeah go for it all right let's let's see i don't know what this question i have two questions one is do you think that the future of tech is going to be uh unbelievably large and super reliant batteries that just never need charging like uh what tesla is trying to do or do you think that it's just going to be uh super fast over the air wireless charging everywhere it's just that you can have like a little bit of battery but that's just always constantly being filled up uh like what you're seeing with a lot of xiaomi phones that's uh number one and number two um why don't you guys have brandon ward on the podcast like he's super dope and the bromance between him and david is actually i'm cutting that off out brandon will
Starting point is 00:49:57 now never be on the podcast because of this he's already been on the podcast what did you cut it off there um yeah brandon has been on the podcast though. Actually, we almost debated getting them on this week, but expect Brandon and Vin to be on whenever we do like really, really intense like robot shots or something like that, or a really fun intro. And they'll usually come on and describe it, but they'll definitely be on sometimes. Back to the question.
Starting point is 00:50:21 The original question. The original question. The battery question. Yeah. I think the first question is really interesting so i immediately when i said that i was like no i i firmly i don't know why i really believe that the the future is going to be like almost no batteries batteries will be super efficient and super small and very quick to charge and it will be available like everywhere you go
Starting point is 00:50:43 to charge up this is like really far future i'm talking so like you're obviously you think about it now on your phone like it's got this little battery cell in it and everywhere you go you just put it down on the table and it tops up and you put it in your car and it tops up and you just always have battery someday in the future imagine your electric car has like a 50 kilowatt hour battery. It's no big deal. But like literally everywhere you go, you just park in one of these designated spots and it's just inductive charging your car everywhere.
Starting point is 00:51:11 So do you still have to stop for it? It's still a stop spot? Probably. Because he almost made it sound like in the future, it's like you're just literally connected all the time. And at that point, is it even a battery or is it basically just like a wireless plug it's like a small cell that powers you you know it it doesn't necessarily need to be a huge battery to get you right now we have huge batteries because we go a long time without
Starting point is 00:51:36 plugging in yeah that's really the basic equation so the the the smaller of a time you go between plugging in the less battery power you need yeah yeah i guess in this a battery always has to have a charge and that gives you power but that charge ends and then therefore needs to be recharged did it almost sound like he was talking about like a a future which would be even further than the very distant future where like they're almost you are charging all the time they're like everything in the world there's demos at ces every year of like wireless power where they like in front of like your tv they've just got a transmitter that it's doing like a low voltage thing to your phone yeah and like they work yeah i think that like early yeah barely
Starting point is 00:52:23 and it's also kind of like at what point should we be worried about this um yeah there's a lot of questions here yeah there's that there's like what happened do you guys remember the solar freaking roadways video that blew up a few years ago those like tiles that just neglected that like the roads dirty that they get dirty yeah yes but i mean yeah i mean stuff like that i like that and then and also if you think about like ikea is putting out like a ton of furniture that just has wireless chargers in it all the time yeah and that's something i've thought about a lot recently is like at my apartment michael and i have wireless chargers everywhere and i don't think i've plugged my phone in
Starting point is 00:52:58 for like eight months my car is almost the only place i plug mine in even my car is a wireless charger yeah it's crazy. So your house is closer to the house of the future where I guess someday you won't even have to put it down on the coils. It will just be near an area and that will always be topped up. And so you'll have a 5,000 milliamp hour battery, but you'll always be at 90% because everywhere you go, you're near something. It's kind of like that Xiaomi wireless charger that moves the coil to your phone. Like every table will just like those coils in it yeah that was a super basic physical solution to the tech we don't have yet but yeah someday i think that would be pretty
Starting point is 00:53:34 i feel like a kind of realistic way to look at this would be i could see in still in the distant future but everything in an area that is maybe our own or a place where you stop at for longer would have wireless but slower charging whereas therefore when you are on the go that's where you get plug in hyper fast charging and like in terms of cars and stuff like that too like it wouldn't surprise me if your garage could get fitted with some sort of a car wireless charger but they're not going to go do that at like wireless charging is always a step behind wired charging and no matter what even with tesla superchargers and 20 minute charging like that's a number they're going to want to get down till it's at one minute or whatever or you're going in there equal to what a gas station would
Starting point is 00:54:19 i think just matching and beating gas yeah exactly So I think the much more realistic would be potentially slower wireless, easier charging at home or in a place where you would park your car longer, but then still on the go needs to be that wire. Flash charging. It's going to be super fast. I think I could see that being a feature where the only reason I don't see it with cars is because they're still so huge compared to every other battery we have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And when the battery is that huge and you lose a lot of wireless charging efficiency to heat, and that's like okay for a phone because the phone is so small, but when you're charging and you're spending like significant money on electricity, you really want to just go straight into the car. Oh, you're saying less efficient?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah. So like your electricity bill would be higher charging your car with wireless charging because of how much energy you lose to heat unless the technology though i mean i'm assuming this is a technology we haven't invented yet and maybe it would become more efficient someday yeah i could yeah yeah it makes sense i would love a future where we don't plug things in it would be nice to just park in your garage and you start every morning full charge. Yeah. That would be awesome. Here in my garage. Here in my garage.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Here in my garage. All right. Here's a question. Yeah. Which company do you think will be the next most successful company in creating their own ecosystem similar to Apple's? So I guess one, the first question for that would be, is there a company that has like a, what's the second best ecosystem next to Apple?
Starting point is 00:55:45 Weirdly, it's Samsung. I mean, it has to be Samsung. But it's like, just because of sheer hardware and products. But none of them are fully congruent enough to like really match each other. Like if you just mentally go, all right, Samsung's number one because nobody can match Samsung's TVs,
Starting point is 00:56:02 refrigerators and appliances, then no matter how good Apple stuff is, you'll never match that. But since we're referring to Apple's as the number one, can you ever match Apple? Then we have to say, OK, can Samsung make a phone? Can Samsung make a tablet? Can Samsung make laptops, speakers, and a bunch of the services that tie them all together? Can they make smart speakers? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:56:23 They've been working on that thing for a while. Maybe. So it's tough to compare directly apples to apples. I guess that is a pun intended. Yeah. But yeah, they've got iCloud. They've got like the seamless transition between the Mac and the iPad
Starting point is 00:56:40 and they've got the M1 chips. Like that is a very tightly knit, well done integration in an ecosystem that's hard to match from anyone. But it's hard to argue anyone has a better shot right now just in terms of pure products that you could get connected together. LG would have been one, but now they don't have a phone. Yeah, and they never really tried
Starting point is 00:56:59 to make their products integrate. They did a few things where you could see your watcher's cycle on your phone, but it was just an app. But just in the sense of having but just in the sense of having phone smartwatch tablet computer refrigerator and literally everything and then it's a software thing i might actually say xiaomi personally they've got a lot true they have a lot of products and whether or not they integrate as closely as apples do they are trying and a few of their stuff does do that like they have their they have laptops that people And whether or not they integrate as closely as Apple's do, they are trying.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And a few of their stuff does do that. Like they have their they have laptops that people don't really know about. And you can do stuff on your phone with the laptop. There's Quick Share, that kind of stuff. Huawei has Huawei Quick Share, all that stuff. I think if Huawei had not gotten kind of like kneecapped, they might have been a runner up. But I think Xiaomi is like, especially because they just have so much freaking stuffup but i think xiaomi is like especially because they just have so much freaking stuff yeah they make everything and really high quality hardware
Starting point is 00:57:49 i would say the what was i gonna say oh apples is the one ecosystem that seems to get modeled after in a way where they don't really talk to other ecosystems at all they kind of just pretend the others don't exist so like you'll see the home pod come out and it's like you have an android phone that's a useless product to you where like if you have uh i don't think huawei makes a smart speaker but if you just insert any like nest hub or like any other some of these products that are part of other ecosystems you could still have an iphone and work with them you could have an lg phone and use a Huawei tablet and an LG laptop and a Samsung fridge, and they'll be okay, and they won't work great together.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But I bet you if Apple makes a fridge, you won't even be able to open it with an Android phone. So it's a different mentality that they take to it. But yeah, closest, if I were to just give one name i would say samsung actually interesting yeah interesting do you guys have another one i think i have another video oh sweet hi marcus hi andrew i was wondering what do you think are some of the biggest dangers that technological advancement and progress might entail? And what solutions would you implement to prevent them from happening? Wow. I actually have a really niche one here
Starting point is 00:59:11 that you and I were talking about pretty recently. Okay. And that's with, and I don't think this is exactly what he's going at, but right now, technology and electric cars is pushing us to these like zero to 60 times that are just like unheard of especially and we've talked about it before the model s is a just like regular everyday car and it's going 1.9 now with
Starting point is 00:59:33 plaid at what point is this getting to a dangerous aspect of potentially needing like a specialty license to drive a full-size sedan like like I said, this is very different, I think, from the question, but I think that's a reasonable worry. At what point, you see all those videos of people crashing their Mustangs because they have way too much horsepower, and maybe that's mostly because rear-wheel drive where most EVs now are four-wheel,
Starting point is 01:00:02 or all-wheel, whatever you want to call it. But those are enthusiasts also in Mustangs. I have some potentially controversial thoughts about these things. What's your most controversial thought that might get you canceled, Marcus? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So speed limits and the way our infrastructure, and not just the U.S., but a lot of countries, safety-wise, the way the rules are built are pretty old. our infrastructure and not just the US but a lot of countries like safety wise
Starting point is 01:00:25 the way the rules are built are pretty old so this like you know speed limit 50 speed limit 60 thing is designed because it was literally dangerous to drive your car faster than that there were no safety measures there were no airbags there were no things like if you crash at 50 miles an hour that's a major problem but i guess today the the level of what's like safe by most people is higher than it was before at least so you know you see like people crashing a mustang because it has way too much horsepower but that's just because they're a bad driver like if you crash a new car in 2020 you you are a much worse driver. And it's going to be much, it's just, it's much safer in today's cars than it ever has been.
Starting point is 01:01:11 There's a recent Doug DeMuro video about this actually. I guess all of that is to say, yeah, you shouldn't drive your car crazy. You shouldn't drive your car to the limits. That's what the tracks and the recreational spaces are for. crazy. You shouldn't drive your car to the limits. That's what the tracks and the recreational spaces are for. But you've always, not always, you've lately had the ability to do unsafe speed things for a long time. There are lots and lots of cars out there that can go way faster than anyone's ever supposed to go on the road. And we're just not supposed to do that on the road. I would argue there that the power power is becoming the initial power that's
Starting point is 01:01:45 potentially uncontrollable is becoming way more accessible to people who aren't buying right now it's not accessible to get a car that goes that fast unless you are specifically seeking out right a performance car i would say we're looking at model three yeah you're going three seconds zero to 60 like you're starting to get, and we know Tesla, they're going to chip that down farther and farther. You're getting to uncontrollable speeds. Not uncontrollable, but way more dangerous speeds for people who are bad drivers,
Starting point is 01:02:14 which will never be eliminated. I would argue it's not the speed. It's the acceleration. It's the acceleration, but if you floor it in a Model S in a straight line, it is way faster and way more safe than if you floor it in a Model S in a straight line, it is way faster and way more safe than if you floor it in a straight line in a 720S. I floored it in a straight line in a 720S,
Starting point is 01:02:32 and you are wiggling. But that doesn't take into consideration variables on the road and roads. No, it does. It's still unsafe for people who aren't used to controlling power like that. Yeah, both are unsafe. And you're talking about bad drivers here,
Starting point is 01:02:44 which will never stop. I mean, we have people crashing cars all the time now. You're taking those people and giving them an ungodly amount of power, which feels very dangerous. It's true that the price to performance has come down constantly over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I just feel like we have had dangerous levels of performance for many years yeah it's just more accessible now to more bad drivers uh more so than before yeah i don't see we've had mustangs for years yeah but i feel like you're generally a like that's something you're seeking out for because you want a performance car. A Model 3 is $150,000. Yeah, I know, but a Model 3 is still going 3.5, and that's going to chip down. What happens when a Model 3 is going 2?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Is it less safe because it's going 2? Yeah. Is the Mustang more safe because it's slower? That's different because of the rear-wheel drive versus all-wheel drive. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like them going faster is necessarily less safe. I think it's about other things.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That's why the Mustang's reputation is not great. But there's still an acceleration curve when you're on gravel or a loose road or something like that, that no matter what, that's going to be unsafe. There are ways to make the speed. And there's other variables on the road
Starting point is 01:04:00 like other drivers, animals crossing the road, pedestrians, all of that is very unsafe. Maybe not to the person in the car, but maybe to the person walking across the road like other drivers animals crossing the road pedestrians all of that is very unsafe maybe not to the person in the car but maybe to the person walking across the road that now you're going two seconds zero to 60 across that intersection rather than seven seconds across that yes i just think it's something to be wary of and i would i would still argue it's getting less safe i would say a minor minor counterpoint
Starting point is 01:04:26 is like if you are a good driver and you are aware that zero to 60 also helps you avoid accidents yeah it's true i don't think there's none before i don't think there's no pros i've had someone that has almost hit me and i've just been able to just like i think there's a ton of pros to it i think merging on highways is going to get way easier and safer because of that. But I still think there drives the factor of there are a lot of people I would never in the world want a car going that fast. So to his question, is there a solution to any of this? I don't know. All driverless cars all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we get regulations on some of these things.
Starting point is 01:05:01 On max speeds? Legal regulations. Not on max speed. Or on fastest acceleration? I don't know where it would happen. I have two on this to be honest number one uh this is just a fun fact is plaid model s is now actually too fast to go flat out at a recreational drag strip because there is a minimum quarter mile time before which you need parachutes to legally be able to use wow the drag strips yeah and if you go flat out you will be able to use the drag strips.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And if you go flat out, you will be banned from the drag strip from going too fast without a parachute. That's pretty hilarious. Real quick, before your next thing though, that is open to somebody doing on a highway right now. Yes. But that's a highway versus a prepared drag strip straight line. But what's the safety measure of that that you're reaching the out outside of the if you need the parachutes to not go off the track at the end yes so that
Starting point is 01:05:50 means on the highway you need the parachutes to not crash into someone potentially stopped on the so that's also older the parachute is an older rule like this these parachutes came from like cars from the 90s needed a parachute to stop and now we have a model s with the biggest brakes i've ever seen but the second part of that is if there's any car that i want to be able to go zero to 60 really fast it's the one with the best safety rating the one with the biggest crumple zone the one with the newest tech the one that's least likely to get hurt in which is the one that good but the one that you're inside that has nothing to do with the other person i'm just saying best case scenario best case scenario if you're saying there's going to do with the other person. I'm just saying best case scenario,
Starting point is 01:06:26 best case scenario, if you're saying there's going to be a car that does zero to 60 in 1.9, which card do you want it to be? Uh, I guess I want it to be the safest one, but yes, no matter what happens on the outside, you're at least making the inside variable safer,
Starting point is 01:06:38 but yeah. Okay. So now that Andrew did his, did his answer, do you have a, do you have a piece of tech that you think is going to be scary in the future? Yeah, I feel like this is pretty dangerous. He was probably looking for like AI robots. I've got a couple thoughts, but I want to let you go if you have a...
Starting point is 01:06:57 Dangerous. I think generally tech has done a good job of staying safe because number one you don't want the bad pr number two anytime you get anywhere near unsafe you have to deal with the ftc and or fcc federal trade ftc so obviously there's been exceptions to that samsung had battery problems as we all remember um but those are exceptions to the rule so when i look at the most dangerous tech or the tech with the most potential to be dangerous it kind of has to be sort of like low-key behind the scenes dangerous like is all of your data
Starting point is 01:07:29 being sold that type of dangerous accessibility through like the internet or through like a place that has a common area that somebody can gain access to I think is what would scare me the most access to all of your data through someone with poor intentions right yeah yeah i don't know if i have a good like single product
Starting point is 01:07:52 or something where it needs this solution that i can propose but ai is definitely one that's i think ai there's also and before david answers like similar on there it's just like i feel like boss dynamics is one of those ones where everyone wants to be scared. But to me, that doesn't worry me, really. Not yet. Maybe I should. We see all these. I might be slightly worried about those
Starting point is 01:08:15 because if someone got a hold of one and put guns on it. That's the thing. So Boston Dynamics is being very careful at the very beginning, which is who can even get their hands on the robot in the first place. Talking about putting things in the hands of the public. You cannot buy a Boston Dynamics robot without talking to Boston Dynamics
Starting point is 01:08:30 about exactly what you're going to do with it, them approving it, and them having you sign a contract saying, if you do anything else, we're taking it back. Is it that, or is it just they stop software updates and no more... I'm not sure the specific... The customer service, I think it was so like
Starting point is 01:08:45 they definitely can still run it but it basically is stopped but it's not like your your crazy uncle can buy one and send it off to do something crazy for you because he will not be able to get his hands on one so that's what boston dynamics is doing which is smart and i think a lot of companies who make products like that probably think about this type of stuff a lot we don't want the liability we don't want any products to be dangerous. But, yeah, I don't know. What's the solution other than do good? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Work for a company that make thing? Do good. It seems to be the best solution for all of these is be a good human being, which will never happen. I have two. One of them is kind of cliche, but I think it's like unregulated social media and just the way that it is probably screwing with a lot of younger people's heads right now and
Starting point is 01:09:32 just the lasting effects that that will have on people's self image within the next 10 years I think there are people especially when you grow up with it and like your entire world view is the entire world and everyone looks perfect all the time I think that's gonna be i think there's gonna be a pretty major mental health crisis in about five to ten years
Starting point is 01:09:50 is this a bad time to plug that you should subscribe to the video podcast on yeah so that's a obviously that's a that's a kind of a cliche one but i know i totally also firmly believe that's gonna happen and it the fact that it's just the platforms are driven around engagement and staying on the platform. And because of that have just kind of gone out of control. I totally agree. And there's attempts at solving it that I don't think. Yeah, I don't think they're working very well at all. Because at the end of the day, these companies still need you on their platform for as long as possible.
Starting point is 01:10:22 The other thing is CRISPR, which, do you guys know what CRISPR is? Is that the DNA manipulation type stuff? Yeah, it's gene editing, basically. They take this cutter protein virus and it goes in and the way that your genes are laid out is like a sequence, right?
Starting point is 01:10:39 So if they can identify certain sequences that cause certain diseases, they can literally cut one of the sequences out and replace it with another one. And then you won't have the disease. And while that's like incredible and amazing and they've been working on this for a long time, there are very scary implications of this. Because while, you know, some people have in the past thought that there was like superior genetic humans that didn't exist now there actually will be and it's going to be i mean if if this got sold if this like became available on an open market only the richest people would be able to
Starting point is 01:11:18 afford it and if only the richest people could make the most superior human babies then the rich would be genetically superior which would keep them rich which would keep them genetically superior and it would just become this like so it's a whole thing and what's the solution to hit him with your car that goes really hard problem because like if we could eliminate cancer yeah yeah it's one of those questions actually a worldwide ban right now yeah I think it currently currently but it's it's a really interesting topic but also very scary because it could easily cause like a ridiculous amount of like classism there's a lot of genetic classism which
Starting point is 01:11:59 is scary as hell anyway I read a book about this but yeah potentially yeah yeah yeah They invented it at my college, that's why. What college is that? UC Santa Cruz. Shout out to UC Santa Cruz. Changing the world. Yeah. Okay. Anyone else have more? We're pretty far in here.
Starting point is 01:12:17 We are fairly far in. Okay, this might be fun. If you could only live with three pieces of tech for a month, what would they be? Oh, that's such a hard question, because how do you define a piece of tech? Also, you're done. You have a phone, car, so two. Well.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Yeah, three is a lot actually. I could live without my car for a month. Actually, this is an interesting question. Yeah, what would you. What is a piece of tech? Yeah. What is technology? Are you saying like using your lights at home would be tech?
Starting point is 01:12:42 Is that. That's. There are a lot of gray area pieces of tech in my life that i would not be sure if they count or not um my house has a nest thermostat do i have to not use my thermostat correct i okay let's okay hold on let's this if it is a smart object let's assume in this month within the snap of a finger you can turn it back to the old version the dumb version of it the non-tech version so of a finger, you can turn it back to the old version, the dumb version of it, the non-tech version.
Starting point is 01:13:08 So if you're a thermostat, you can still change your thermostat, but you can't do it from your phone and you can't set it from beforehand. Because that's funny, because all we're really doing is not connecting it to the internet, but it's still a thermostat. But it's one that you can set.
Starting point is 01:13:20 You can still use it. You can set things for it. It controls the efficiency and everything like that. If you're to pay. Yeah. Okay. Let controls the efficiency and everything like that. Yeah. Okay. Let's just say internet connected. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Well, I was going to say the internet was one of my things in tech, so I wasn't sure. Yeah, my router. I think your laptop would be. Yeah, I mean. I don't want to live without my router. I don't know, but then you'd have to be like my router, my modem, and my laptop. And the wall. That would suck. No, I'm going to go then you'd have to be like my router, my modem, and my laptop. And the wall.
Starting point is 01:13:45 That would suck. No, I'm going to go handheld. I'm going to go three pieces of tech. Yeah, phone is one. It would be a challenge to try to pick three and not include the phone, but I'm definitely going to put my phone as one. Then piece of tech. then piece of tech so for a month i'm gonna need a camera and i'm gonna need a computer of some sort just because are you going to attempt to create make videos for that month
Starting point is 01:14:16 it's like we're gonna have real bad audio yeah so i'm doing like just one echoey audio i guess when i say camera i'm going like camera setup. Echoey audio in your videos from now on. I guess when I say camera, I'm going like camera setup. The stuff plugged into the camera counts. Wait, so what camera? Because like what a. R5, A7S3. I was going to say with like a C300 with it. Does that have the onboard microphone on it?
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't know if I want to edit that on a laptop. I'm just going like laptop is the computer. Because my three things are phone, laptop, and camera. Oh, yeah, just laptops you can bring around with you. Yeah. because my three things are phone laptop and camera laptop you could bring around with you yeah so if I can edit on 16-inch MacBook Pro and I've got let's go Sony a7s III with a mic plugged in so you're gonna nasty card month without music my phone my phone can do music yeah yeah Spotify I guess yeah I mostly use not had a phone yeah that's fine. You could just be one of those people that plays it out loud.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Would you go headphones over one of those two things? I think I would, yeah. Oh, interesting. I think I'd go phone, headphones, and I could probably even go without my, probably, I guess, laptop. Laptop. Phone, headphones, laptop.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I think that's easy. I think I would do phone. Three is a lot. Phone, Avi. I don't, I would honestly not do a laptop. headphones laptop i think that's easy i think i would do phone three is pretty is a lot yeah yeah phone obvi i don't i would honestly not do a laptop i would probably do my computer at home because i like to play games at night and that's one thing right now i haven't i haven't played valorant in like a month and it's i'm so all the peripherals and all the things that connect to it are part of the computer yeah in this example yeah example. Yeah. Right? Like, is that?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, yeah. That's a tough one. That is really tough. If I can go SD card and microphone, then you can go keyboard and mouse. What if they all, yeah, like, they're all part of the computer because they stay at the computer and they don't go anywhere else. So, like, my headphones, my keyboard, mouse, like, I don't bring those around for anything else. I would say because they're plugged into it.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But that's only two? Yeah, that's only two. Honestly, I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:16:10 To be honest, I kind of don't want my phone. The problem is I literally couldn't survive without it, which kind of sucks. I do most of my internet stuff on my phone unless I'm at my work computer or I'm at my home computer. I still barely even do stuff on that. I rarely carry a laptop. I was going to say I could probably swap out my laptop for something, but if it was going
Starting point is 01:16:30 to be for a month and I got really, what's a computer? For a month and I got really bored, I guess I'd want to play Dota or something so I could do it on my laptop. Yeah. A month is a long time. A month is a while. Well, that's a good one to end it on, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:44 That was pretty fun. Yeah, a month is a long time. A month is a while. Well, that's a good one to end it on, I guess. Yeah, that was pretty fun. Sick. All right. Well, this has been your semi-annual game show slash video Q&A. Next time,
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