Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - The Android Show Recap!

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

The Android Show was this week and gave us a bunch of things to talk about! With Andrew and David out this week, Marques, Adam, and Mariah break down everything that Google showed off. Then Ellis and Rufus came up with a game for everyone to play by combining Family Feud and...Reddit? Then they wrap it all up talking about the new Fitbit Air! Links: Google - Android Show I/O Edition Google - Fitbit Air Follow us on socials: Marques: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd⁠⁠ Andrew: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli⁠⁠ David: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@davidimel⁠⁠ Adam: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17⁠⁠ Ellis: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/EllisRovin⁠⁠ Mariah: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/totallynotabusinessacc/⁠⁠ Rufus: https://www.instagram.com/rmullhaupt/ Waveform Threads: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast⁠⁠ Waveform Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en⁠⁠ Waveform TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast⁠⁠ Join the Discord: ⁠⁠https://discord.gg/mkbhd⁠⁠ Intro/Outro music by 20syl: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/2S53xlC⁠⁠ Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I tweeted just a screenshot of the Google slide that just said, book two floor seats to this concert. And then in the video, the person just clicks it, and then that's the end of the interaction. And they're like, yeah, got the tickets. What? No, that's not how this works. Yeah, what is up, people of the internet?

Welcome back to another episode of the Wayform podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Adam. I'm Mariah. I've got a new setup today. This is, you know how when there's like a new, sorry, it's an NBA podcast already? You have like a new lineup that's not played in the playoffs.

Like for the first time, the six probably did this. You have a lineup of like a group of people who have never played at the same time together. This is like the current arrangement. Yeah, I'm supposed to be on the bench, but for some reason they put me over here. But you've been, I think it's been there. Mario's here. No, David was here. You were there.

Yeah. So it's like a shuffle. Yeah. Listen, we're down by 30. It's the fourth chord. We got to try anything. We're trying. It's a Tuesday.

It's great. Today we watch the Android show, so we've got all sorts of thoughts on all of what they've announced. We also can talk a little bit about the death slash rebirth of Fitbit, because that happened. And also we have a game that I have no idea what we're actually going to do. Me neither. But there are buzzers here. Yeah. So it surely will be fun.

I asked Ellis yesterday like, hey, how's the game coming along? Do you need me to like prep anything? And he's like, don't worry about it. That makes me a little bit nervous, excited but nervous. It's good. Exactly. But first, did they even test this? This is a...

I hear Ellis has one. Yeah, Ellis special today. Well, now I'm like scared to do... Did they even test this? Because the last time I did it, I was the one that did not test it and was proven wrong. But I have recently switched back from Apple Watch to Garmin as my fitness tracker of choice. So you're on Android now?

Hey, hey. Oh, boy. I don't know. After the Android show today. Yeah, buddy. So I've been trying to link it with my straw. and which has just proved to be like a death-defying nightmare. It's been a mess for so long.

And it just results in this thing where this like endless loop where I go into the Garmin app and try, or I go into Strava, the Strava app. I have to be released with here. Go into the Strava app. Hit connect device, choose Garmin. It opens the Garmin app. The Garmin app is then like, okay, let's now connect your Strava and Garmin accounts. I'm like, bet.

Then it goes to Strava.com where it makes me see. sign in for some reason. So I sign into my Strava account on Strava.com. And then it goes, great, we're in. Now we need to go back to the Garmin app. And then I go back to the Garmin app. And the Garmin app and the Garmin app goes, it failed. So did you get in? No, I've done this about 50 times, like hoping that it goes differently. You're still not in? No. Oh my God. So they were supposed to have fixed this like a few years ago. They did like a whole announcement post about it. Yeah, like literally like two or three years ago. They were like, we're now connected with Strava. You no longer have to worry about this. But I guess, I guess it's still an issue. Damn. Yeah. Damn. That blows for you.

Nobody tested it. There is one other thing that blows for me. No. No. No. He's wearing a shirt already. Guys, after several weeks of a funeral of hopeful bliss, I would say. The Philadelphia 76ers have been knocked out of the NBA playoffs. After an amazing first round, they were swept in four games by the New York Knickerbockers. You could be sad, or you could choose to revel in what an amazing year we had. We watched Vijay drop 30 over and over again as a rookie. We watched Andre Drummond to learn how to shoot three-pointers. We watched Kyle Rowery say goodbye to the NBA, I think.

Damn. Maybe. We watched Nick Nurse develop complex systems, and most of all, we watched the greatest hero in American history. Joel Embedde. Lucid. Overcome countless obstacles and ascend to basketball greatness. Philadelphia 76ers, I love you. How did you time that so perfectly?

Did you practice this? No. Also, for all of our Scandinavian slash Nordic audience members who are confused why I used a Christmas hymn for that, I just like the way it sounded. And they don't know anything about that stuff. Nice. Wow.

I don't know where to go from here. I'm trying to make a broom pun to move to the next thing. I don't know if I can think of one. You know, who else swept the stage? Ah. Smear. Samir from Google. Okay, so the Android show, the pre-I.O. Android show is this week.

And we talked a little bit about it before how they were sort of hyping up. Samir is one of the ones on Twitter who was like, this is going to be one of the, I think they said, the biggest update to Android yet. Asterisk. It's a lot. It's a lot of hype. A lot of promises. But we finally did get that promise and they gave us this wonderful 45 minute video of very human presentation and a ton of new features through Android. Android Auto through Gemini intelligence and through some B.

So we'll talk about all of that. Yeah, we got a sense of you saying Brees though. Yeah. Leap that out. Why? Because that's what they did during the event. They bleeped out Google Books? Right at the beginning, he tried to leak Google Books and he said it and then they bleeped it.

And he was like, we could fix it in post, right? And it was like one of those like, Uh-huh, I'm a person too. I make mistakes. So, quirky. So human, Google. Yeah. That was great. Anyway, so let's talk about Android first, maybe. Sure.

Because that was, so we were looking forward to Android updates. Android 17 is what the new version is going to be called. They did the thing, first of all, that they do every time where they're like, all the stuff is coming first to pixels and Samsung GalaxyS. Yes. So some of us in here are very happy about that. They tend to do that. They tend to put Samsung right at the forefront of a lot of the software.

stuff. Cool. How do you feel about that as a one plus boy now? I'm a one plus 15 user. I do have a mention of that later in this, but yeah, it's fine. We'll get that stuff eventually at some point. At some point. Yeah. So here's a couple of things that we got. We got some slightly updated aesthetics. We got a lot of the Gemini stuff is what's updated aesthetically. So a little new animation. It's a little bit glassy, but not really when you're talking to it and when it's thinking, then when it's executing. Yeah, that had me nervous for a second. I thought they were doing a whole, redesign. It seems to be just for Gemini, right? Yeah. That's like whenever you long press the button and Gemini pops up or you're doing something with Gemini, that's what the redesign is.

Yeah. And spoiler, a lot of what's new with Android is Gemini related and that's why they're calling it the biggest update yet because AI big, AI very important to Google. Some of the stuff that was interesting, screen reactions I thought was a cool feature. So you know how you see one of those Instagram or TikTok real videos where it's just a person in front of whatever they're talking? about, that's like a mode built into the camera now. You can just do that. It's great. Unfortunately, built into Android.

Yeah, I think this is going to slap. It's going to just make that format so much easier for so many people. Yeah. It's great. Listen, do you guys follow Cardi B on Instagram? Cardi B. I don't think so, actually. Okay.

Well, she has these, like, weekly rants where she's just talking to the camera on Instagram and just going off about whatever's going on her life. Just loves this. It's very entertaining. She is going to use the hell out of this, assuming she ever leaves iPhone. Yeah, she probably won't. Is she going to have an Android phone? Yeah.

People that do that kind of like content, this is going to be insane. Paris Hilton's going to be making videos with this for sure. Surely. Yeah. Paris Hilton was on the street. Yeah. There's also some more plugs with things like Instagram. So some of this has existed already in the past, but some more native integration with

using the camera built into Instagram. You can have HDR content supported. You can have all of the processing supported, which is nice. I remember they did this a few years ago with Snapchat, I think it was, where they, like, implemented the Google camera directly into Snapchat so that it wouldn't be such, like, it had a name. Yeah, they had a name and everything, and they were very proud of it, and it was just a pixel, and now they're doing more of it, so. Also, Samsung. And Samsung as well. So great.

They're there. That's coming to the forefront. There is a feature called PausePoint. Yeah. It's an interesting implementation. What you've probably already seen on the iPhone is screen time. where you can specifically decide to limit the number of minutes, let's say, in a day that you can spend on a certain app.

I mean, Google has this too, though. Yeah. Yeah. What is it called? It's digital well-being. Thank you, yes, digital well-being. When you get to the end of that timer, it takes you out the app, you can't open it anymore.

Or unless you decide to bypass it, whatever. This is a new version of that that is a little bit more of a 50-50 split. It's you open the app that you want to have restrictions on. And then it shames you into closing the app. Once you're in it, it pops up this pause. screen and it tells you like just remember why you're here remember what you meant to do when you opened your phone and I think some of the examples where like you can scroll through pictures of your head or something while you remember there was like a cool down timer first yes and then

20 seconds or something I don't know if after that then it shows you pictures of your loved ones yeah so like think of who you're disappointing here as you dooms scroll yeah for one that was like have you have you thought about your goals yeah like I know you're about to open subway servers but Have you thought about grinding right now instead? Yeah. Don't you want to be a productive person? It is a different take on limiting your screen time. I don't know.

I'm not going to use that either. I like it. I know you're very anti these features. I guess if I was someone who was already trying to rely on screen time, I would find this maybe refreshing or at least interesting and different. I try it. I'll report back in a like a way. You can try it?

The digital well-being restrictions literally do nothing for me. Same. I think they mentioned something about it also restarting your phone to, like, disable it or something. So like another thing to have to bypass it, it makes it harder. Yeah. I don't think this will stop me. I'm not going to lie. I thought if I was a Google lawyer, that whole section would have made me sweat bolts.

Why that? Because like six weeks ago, Google lost a ginormous court case that they can be found liable for making addicting products. They got sued because of YouTube's algorithm being too addicting. Ellis, you think that the different parts of Google talk to each other? As soon as a Google employee was like, do you ever feel like you're using your phone without thinking about it or you unconsciously pull out your phone? I was like, that's kind of you admitting it's a little addictive. Yeah, but it's fine because now we can watch YouTube in the car while we...

Listen, the product people make things, the lawyers lawyer it out. That's their problem. Product people are like, I'm just going to make this. I feel like there's a couple apps that are really associated with opening it and then mindlessly scrolling and then forgetting how much time you spent. And those are Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. Yeah. You're so right. And now you can do less of that. Or you can just uninstall it to bypass all of it. The whole thing of this product is like you have this impulse to open your phone and they want to make you wait like 10, 15 seconds to just like see if that's

actually what you want to do, right? Do you know the other thing in American society that you employs that tactic? Firearms sales. And like a lot of stuff. If you want to buy a gun, they make you wait like three to ten days to be like, are you sure you actually need a gun? I was like, that is a weird thing to use the gun strat for. I guess it's an impulse buy for maybe the wrong reasons. I think we should have that for micro transactions. We should have a little cool down timer. Yeah, I wonder, can you put this per, you have to be able to put this per app, right?

Yeah. So I can like set this on, I don't know, like my text messages or something. Why would you want to put it on your text? Not that I would want you, but you could in theory. To make sure you don't text instantly. Yeah. Mom texts too. You're like, I can't.

I can't right now. And then a picture of her like comes on the screen. No, I actually like this feature because I, like you, Mariah, I've tried these digital well-being, like timer-block things. And it just doesn't work. Like I can very easily just unlock it, put my fingerprint, whatever. Giving me that little slight pause to be like, are you sure? I think that's going to work. Because I'm going to be like, no, you know what?

You're right. I don't want to do this. It's fine. Like, I have that tick, and this will stop me from doing that tick. I feel like everyone has the moment where they're on their phone and they're like, they snap out of it. They're like, why am I here? What is it? Where?

What are I doing? I think that's valid because people, they get to that point and it's been like 10 minutes and they don't realize what they're just doing. Yeah. Because I also think there's a lot of people who have the screen time thing set, but the muscle memory is just to open it and immediately bypass it. Yeah. And so you're in anyway. Now what. Yeah.

So this will interrupt you before you get to that point of 10 minutes later being like, why is it dark outside? So it's different. Yeah. What app are you putting this on? Me personally? Yeah. Oh, I have just this whole thing called like discipline.

Okay. Or I just don't. You have an internal timer that once it hits five minutes, you close the app? Well, if I have something to do, I do that. I just, maybe it's just me. But if I've pulled out my phone to do a task, I'm pretty focused on like getting to do that task and then maybe I'll doomscroll but but how long are you doom scrolling for like you don't fall down to rabbit hole and just wake up 20 minutes later uh of course I do you're done with your

task you're just chilling but it's it's not gotten to the point where it's like boy do I need a feature to show me pictures of my pets or something you mean our pets yeah so I don't know maybe I'll get there I'm like halfway between you guys like I never dooms scroll for more than like 45 seconds but when I'm having a bad no discipline day it is sort of like, I do 45 second to scrolls once every like six minutes. Yeah. It's okay. We're built different.

And you know, that's fine. See, with me, I'm like one or the other. I can either scroll for like 45 seconds and be like, yeah, I'm done. Or some days I will get on the couch and I'm like, I'm not doing nothing tonight but scrolling. Like that's it. My next two hours are going to be down this TikTok rabbit hole. I wonder how long it takes to interrupt you. If it sees you scroll for like whatever, let's say you're in that app for like 30.

seconds. You could probably set it right. Probably. Yeah, I didn't show the UI, but maybe it'll let you set the time. Do you guys have, this reminds me, isn't there a thing on the iPhone? Sorry, this is a tangent. That tells you you're holding the phone too close to your eyes. That was another one. I've never had that. Turned on. No. I think Marlena tried that once and I don't know how I feel. It's supposed to. It's supposed to protect you and probably a lot of younger people who are just like this.

Yeah. Who are holding it right up to their face. And maybe if you do that too much, that's bad for your eyes. So just sort of warning you. to not do that so much. I think the one other big feature here in Android is Airdrop support coming to way more devices. So Airdrop and Android are now compatible essentially, at least, well, in both directions, I think. And it is out the gates now for S26 series, pixel 10s, pixel 9s, pixel 8A, Apple Find X9 series, and Find N6, VivoX300 Ultra, and coming soon to a bunch of others, including my 1plus 15.

How long do you think that is? I have no idea. I'm not crossing my fingers. I literally use blip for that now. I'm not like reliant on it, but it is neat that that is one of the things breaking down the ecosystem wall. It's weird. I don't see the pixel six on this list.

Yeah. What are we going to get to older phones? Oh yeah, all the way back to 8A. That's the like oldest one. It's not bad. I wonder why. It can't be like a hardware limitation. I don't know.

You know, it's funny when we did that like shooting every single iPhone photo from every generation from 17 to 1. Yeah. getting the photos off of the iPhone was really easy from the iPhone 17 down all the way to a certain phone where AirDrop was no longer a feature. Which phone? This is random trivia question. Which phone do you think was the first one that I couldn't just air drop it to myself? iPhone 7.

I want to say, I'm just going to say eight. Eight? I don't actually remember exactly which one. Okay. But it was like the 4S. It was like really far. Okay. I got really far.

And Andrew had to go from like plugging him into the computer. That's crazy. Have you ever had to root around in like the iPhone folders on like a PC before? That's what we had to do for the first. Terrible. It was really, it's really tough. Yeah. Rough.

So okay. How many people here use Android Auto? That was the other big update. I do. Every day. Pretty big deal. Android Auto got a really big update, probably bigger than the rest of the updates to Android itself. Yeah.

The aesthetics, the visual update. So it's got this lane guidance now. It has this 3D view with way more detailed topography and mapping stuff, overpasses, bridges, all that sort of stuff. If you took Apple Maps and like Tesla Maps and make them had a baby. Yeah, like Apple Maps had a lot of this unique, not cartoon-y, but sort of like 3D look to it. And now this has a lot of that too. It's funny.

It feels like it was inspired by some of those like social media posts that are like putting Apple Maps and Google Maps on the side. So now it's got all of that. And it also has way more features like the ability to, watch full screen 60 FPS videos in whatever screen is in your car that has Android Auto on it. I hate this. But I think that's only when you're parked and probably specifically for electric cars, like when you're charging. I really hope so because otherwise it makes no sense. I'm going to test this immediately. It's a good idea. I'm going to find out. Do you have an electric car? No.

No, but like I have Android Auto in my car. So you're just going to like park it and sit there and watch a YouTube video. I want to see if it even knows if I'm in parked. It probably does. It has Yeah, well, it has GPS, so it'll know if you're moving or not. Yeah, but you can fool that. It's smart enough to, at least it turns down my media when I'm in reverse, so it probably knows if I'm in park or not. So they did have a UI thing where when you switch into drive, it moves that video off screen and continues playing the audio in the background.

That was cool. That was cool. That's the thing I have the most questions about, because one, if it's Android Auto, not like built into the car, how does it know you switched into drive? Yes. Like, your phone doesn't know that your car switched into drive. Yeah. You didn't start driving it.

Two, I thought background audio play was a YouTube premium feature. If it's on a non-premium account, does it just pause? That's a good question. I think the YouTube premium play was only when you like lock the screen and the screen turns off. Yeah, so if I'm watching a video on my screen, turn the screen off, the video pauses. But it's playing on the car screen, which never turns off. But it does hide the video. Yeah, it hides it over and like the UI thing, but you know.

In the phone world, that's kind of the equivalent of like turning the screen off. That's weird. I'm not really sure how that works yet. We've got to test that. Didn't they say it was with like certain partners? Maybe that's how it knows that the cars in park and stuff. Yeah, it was, I think there was like 16 different brands. Yeah, something like that.

We'll have to see. Yeah. But I am curious to see how effective that is. But yeah, immersive navigation with redesigned visuals and yeah, which is in the car. You can do zoom on the screen. Oh, no. That part was crazy. Are you going to be zooming in the car?

I've never, I've never wanted. do that. You can do that in Teslas already. I've also never wanted to do that in my Tesla. Long time. Never wanted to do it. I assume that's also audio only. No. Video while driving. It's not while driving. I don't think, I think that should also be, they didn't say no. They didn't clarify. But it should also be well parked. It should be, but. It probably is. But yeah, taking a meeting in the car on that car screen. They made an interesting point. They said that the speakers in your car for most people are the best speakers you own. I've never thought about that.

I knew it. I want to hear your take on this, but my first reaction to that was like, that might be true for a lot of people. Yeah, it is definitely true for a lot of people. Unfortunately, sad. So now that line with Paris Hilton of like, my car is my personal movie theater. At first, that was really cringy, but then I'm like, I mean, the screen's not good, but it is the best speakers you have. I would say that's accurate. I would say so.

But why would you watch a video on like a little four-inch screen? So the video part gets weird because the Bluetooth lag is sometimes pretty dramatic. Like I don't want to watch a movie with a second and a half of lag to the speakers. So then I guess I do want to watch it on the screen in the car, but that's never a good screen. Ever. Ever. So I don't know how I feel about watching a movie in the car. But if you're charging, you're sitting there with an EV for 45 minutes, maybe waiting for a charger and then it's a slow charge or whatever.

It's a way to burn the time. Ellis is going to watch Dune on the big screen in the car. That sounds pretty fun. Oh. Just like, you know, when you're learning how to do audio stuff, especially music stuff, like a big part is learning how to make your mixes translate to a car. The car test, baby. You want to like check stuff in a car because car speakers are like universally the weirdest.

Like this, like the way something sounds in a studio, it'll sound kind of similar in a lot of speakers. And then in a car, it'll sound completely different somehow. And so yeah, definitely hearing. But I guess compared to almost any sound bar, probably a car is like better. Yeah. Most people only have soundbars in their home. Yeah. Damn.

That's sad. Way to bum me out. So big Android update. Android auto update coming. The last piece of the puzzle, though, is Gemini Intelligence, which of course, they're probably going to talk way more about at Google I.O. Yeah. But we did get some new intelligence features.

They kept calling it an, what did they say? An intelligence. It's not an operating system, Marcus. It's an intelligence system. It's intelligent. Okay. So what's new? So what's the intelligence system?

Okay. There are more agentic features from Gemini. It can take action for you through your apps and use your apps for you. And also some smaller things like auto fill, like better speech to text, where it removes a lot of the filler words and you can speak in two different languages and it'll work at the same time. Those were probably the best use cases of these new features. the smallest ones for the best ones. Yeah, like they should have leaned hard into those because that's like everyday life things versus their weird examples that I'm sure you'll bring up. But like, yeah,

using Gemini to book concert tickets or something is just insane behavior. That was my, okay, that was my take. So I tweeted this. I tweeted just a screenshot of the Google slide that just said, book two floor seats to this concert. And then in the video, the person just clicks it and then that's the end of the interaction. And they're like, yeah, yeah. Got. the tickets. What? No. That's not how this works. That's also not even how I want it to work. I want to shop around a little bit. I actually want to engage with this. Pick the seats I want. Pick the best deal. Like there's way more nuance to it. Now I tweeted this and Dieter replied. He said, well, there's only so much we could fit in a sizzle reel. Of course, Gemini Intelligence leaves the user in control

for the final checkout process. He linked the article that describes it, but I also don't see anything about the final checkout process in here. So I'm curious to see what the rest of the checkout process looks like. Because like if they're showing this while you're driving your car, they're showing you can do all of this while you're doing other things. How thorough could it really be? That's the other thing is how much do you trust it? Because look, I've grown up now in the age of AI making lots of mistakes. Old. And it's getting better, yes, but I'm very familiar with AI hallucinating things and making lots of mistakes. So when when people say like booking airplane tickets as a big screen activity.

I think what they really mean is like, I want to make sure I'm doing this right and actually getting what I want here. And doing a single button press in Gemini and then maybe two or more steps in a checkout process still doesn't feel like quite enough. It feels like when people have like a Google Home or a different like home device and they're like, I don't know, buy me this thing. And there's no follow up. It just feels very just like, I want it now.

Yeah. For some people, that's going to be fine because they don't care which version they just bought or how much it costs or whatever or how fast the delivery is going to be or any of the other steps. But yeah, I don't feel like I would do this. This is just going to be weird too because there's so many concerts

where you end up like waiting in a queue, you know, like you have three hours of waiting before. There's not even going to be any tickets left anyway. It's buying these scalp tickets. Gemini is going to be on ticket master like refreshing like the rest of us. I guess. They need to come up with better examples.

So they had a couple others. Yeah. One of them was look at the syllabus and buy all the textbooks required for semester. No. I'm like, ah, man, I don't know. It's not fun to shop for the best deal for textbooks, but I don't want to just buy the default. You know who can just pay anything a student? Yeah, yeah. I really, I think I'm going to look at the listing and then go look on eBay or look on Facebook Marketplace for last year's semester, like students who are selling it. Like, I don't know.

No, just wait until you get to class, ask who has the ebook. Yeah. And then get the drive link. Allegedly. Yeah. I'm very interested in the demo they had for the food delivery where they were like, you know what I order from the restaurant. Send me that, but double it. You know what? That one might work for me.

That one was close for me. That one was the closest because I do have a restaurant near me. And I have two things, one or two things that I always swap between that order from there. And I have this whole ritual where if I'm like 15 minutes from home, like do I feel like like cooking today? Not really. I will. Not while I'm driving.

But at a red light, I'll open. open the Uber Eats app and go put in the order and go for pickup. And then when I'm at a certain light, the same exact light every single time, which is exactly eight minutes away, I hit order at checkout. And then when the light turns green, I know that when I arrive, they're finishing my order. That's crazy. You have it that well time? Yeah.

So this is a routine enough thing that in theory I could just be driving in the car and just say, hey, gee, order the thing. Yeah. And it could do it. Which I think could be helpful. There's been times where I've been on like a road trip and I'm like, I am driving still and I can't stop because this is like a nine hour drive. And it would be nice if my food was waiting for me at a future destination. But that's pretty infrequent.

And also, I guess it's picking this information, I assume, from your email or from texts or like receipts. I would imagine past orders as well, right? What's up? I would imagine past orders as well. That's what I'm saying. Is it pulling the information from your email? It has to be pulling it from somewhere. because how else would it know?

Like, it doesn't have access into DoorDash or does it? I think it's Gmail. It has access into wallet, Gmail, photos and some other Google services. But they did say they were partnering with Select Food. It was like Door Dash and someone else.

So some kind of backdoor into DoorDash, I'm not sure. Before they did all the featurey stuff, they did the sort of that sort of like sizzle reel, you know, that intro cinematic. And a lot of the features they were sort of talking about in that seemed to be almost like open claw-y. Like when the command was like, keep an eye on this merch thing.

That's the kind of thing that in order to do accurately, I would assume it would need to get prompted twice a day, three times a day in the background, which is like sort of what an open claw product is for. But they never actually said, like, it can do heartbeat style. Agentic prompts.

And so I'm curious if that's sort of like something they're planning on adding. I feel like it should be able to. I've had GPT do that sort of thing before. You can say like just recurringly do this and let me know. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. And it would like twice a day give me a like a notification of the thing that it checked again. Yeah. Oh, interesting. So it's possible, but yeah. Another example here was buying, what was it, buying all the things like tours with no. Oh, it was just like look at my Expedia like booking and like book a tour for five people or something. Yeah.

Like just pick the best one, Google. Yeah. You might get like the one that has open seats, which isn't very good because the good one is full. I'm not really sure what it's going to pick for you. I want to do that. No. I will never get... I don't think the technology

will ever get to a point where I will have it plan an entire trip and me just be like, sounds great. It seems like it's the example every time. I want to go for a trip. Let's plan a trip to France

and it just starts doing stuff. I simply cannot imagine doing that. But that's the future of Google's ads business. I believe it, but I just... We're already seeing like the birth of the AI SEO sort of industry of these ad agencies that are like, we will boost your rankings on GPT and Claude and stuff like that. And I think this is the future baby.

It's like, buy this thing. And then the AI goes, who paid me money to say buy this thing? I feel like I want the AI to kick in like one step later in the process. Like I want to do some of the research and I want to decide which exact item I'm going to buy. And then throw the AI in, which to be fair, that's one of the things is the improved auto fill. Yeah. Which it's going to be able to take information from what it knows about you from your wife. from your photos, let's say it needs a random driver's license ID number or something for some

random purchase. I don't know why it would do that. Your passport. Your passport ID. That was one of the examples, but like it could throw that in there because the improved auto fill. It can take of that for you. So that's the point where the AI I think would be very useful for me. Yeah. But that's just one step later. That auto fill to that. That auto fill thing looked really dope because I spent way too much time filling out different addresses. Even with the auto fill by Chrome and all this stuff, it still takes too long. Yeah. So if there's a way to just have AI do all these generic things, go for it. I feel like the thought of this would freak my parents out.

Like, I don't think, there's some people who I feel like would not want to have their personal information. I assume there's ways to opt out of all of these, or is there? You would hope so. I don't know. But I don't know. I think it would be opt-in. Well, at least the way it's been treated so far is I had to tell it to access my Gmail

and all that other stuff. So it was opt-in. I had to give it access to everything. Yeah. My calendar, my Gmail, all that. But I mean, hey, it's there already. Use it. I've taken a picture of my password before.

That's the thing, though. Here's the thing. I have my current driver's license that I've taken a picture of. I also definitely have a picture of my old driver's license. Is the driver's license number the same? Maybe it is. If it pulls from the old one, is that going to be a problem? I don't know.

Well, that was my question with they had an example with Magic Q, and they were like, oh, I'm going on a hike, and I was going back and forth to this person, and they asked, they text me the address. And with Magic Q, I could just press the button and send them the address. And that has not worked for me once. Yes. Every time, because it's like I'm going back and forth with the person and we're discussing multiple places. Like, oh, do you want to go here? What if we meet there? What about this place?

And every time that magic cue button that pops up, it gives me one of those places and not the one we settled on. That is, that's why I don't trust it. I don't trust it. That's one of those things like that where it's not going to understand that we, I just said, yeah, let's do that one, instead of putting in a whole address. Yeah. And it just doesn't understand. And then when it gets it wrong, it's that one little thing where it's like, now we don't want to trust it anymore.

Where the person literally is like, where are we meeting? Oh, Magic Q, I just send the response. And then you get there and they're like, I'm 15 miles away because you sent me an address. Yeah, they went to the wrong airport like David. Oh, my God. So TBD on testing all of that stuff. But the last thing we got a little bit of a sneak peek of is Google Book. Yes.

Google Book is, they hyped it a lot like it's a brand new concept, but to me it felt a lot like ChromeOS Plus. Okay, yeah. It's a Chromebook with ChromeOS. It has Android apps. It has a premium build, as they say, and it'll have a little light bar. It'll be made by one of several OEMs, HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, and it runs this more Gemini-centered version of Chrome OS,

where it has essentially the magic pointer on the top of it. it which you wiggle the click the cursor and it becomes a little multimodal portal into Gemini you can click a photo learn about it you can click several photos combine them together with nanobanana you can ask it to rephrase some text that you highlight with the cursor it's just that your cursor becomes this portal into Gemini it's a cool concept um but why a new product category yeah this is it's confused about it's just yeah it's just an update and the chrome os Chromebooks Like the more recent ones that were really good already could run Android apps. Yep.

In the Play Store. Yeah. So I'm like, why do a whole rebrand? I think there may be a distinction between emulating the Play Store from your phone and actually running the app on the laptop. Okay. Like, you know, you can mirror your iPhone on your Mac. Same thing with like, you can use apps that are on your phone and access files that are

your phone from the laptop, but I think that might be a slight distinction here where it's actually running the app on the laptop instead of running it or mirroring it from what your phone is running. But then how does it have the data from my phone? Some other extra connection between your phone. Is that not? Okay. I don't think that part is new.

Yeah. But yeah, now it's like, oh, I'm writing an email. Let me just attach a file that's from my phone. You can just drag it from your phone. So this might be a stupid question, but did they kill Chromebooks? I was wondering. I don't think so. It didn't seem like they killed it.

So this is just a new addition. They never mentioned Chromebooks, so I assume they didn't kill Chromebooks. But this is a new concept, Google Book. Okay. I do like the idea. Like when I saw it, I was like, oh, that's cool. Like, premium hardware. It's the same reason I was excited for like the old Chromebook pixel, like the nice premium

laptops that are tied into all my Google stuff. I already have the Android phone, the pixel phone, whatever, like just put it all in one place. I like that idea. I'm just confused about the whole new branding around Google Books specifically. Who is this for? Who's buying this? That's what I want to know. That's another good question because we kind of know what a Chromebook is. And a Chromebook historically has been a cheaper like entry into the Google ecosystem for students and a lot of people who just need like a web browser and that's basically it. And they have some apps on their phone. A more premium version of that means higher price tag, potentially higher performance, more interesting features. But what does it do? If you're having a higher price tag, I need it to do. real work things. It's an AI machine. Yeah, it's built. It's the first laptop. Wait, let me take the exact quote. Is there a price point for this either? I didn't see. There's no price yet. This,

the first laptops designed for Google Gemini intelligence from the ground up. Does that mean that it can run Final Cut or Adobe Premiere or definitely? I really doubt that. Or even outside of like the creative video editing workflow. Like can it do, I don't know. No. Like this is not, it doesn't feel like a competitor to the MacBook Neo. It doesn't even feel like a similar. Because that's like their budget item and this feels completely different category. This is the

I want to use Gemini more than the average person in Chromebook. Which is me. I would like to do that. But you need a whole separate computer to do that? Yeah. Like I should be like why can't I just install an app on my current computer that does all this? Yeah. Why do I need a whole new? Why is this not a software update to an existing

Chromebook? Yeah. That's what I would like to know. Like what is the benefit of me buying into this hardware system. Because it's like I'm buying a whole new laptop. The globe bar. Which they didn't even say what it does. What is the globe bar? It just glows.

It just looks nice. All right. If it literally just glows, I'm here for it. I think it literally just a nice looking glow. That's not the only thing it does. And then they like didn't elaborate. Did they say that? I could be misremembering.

It seemed very ominous. I was taking notes so I might have missed some parts of that, but it seems like it just glows. If it literally just glows, I'm here for it. That's so, just, why not? Why not? Yeah. But I'm just, like, I'm just confused about this whole thing.

Yeah. I'm not sure what the use case is, and I really want to know how much this is going to cost. I would try to get my hands on a Google book. I don't know who's going to make the first one. I don't know if it's going to be HP or Sos or Samson. Probably HP. Yeah. We'll see if I can get my hands on a Google book.

Well, what was the first one? Wasn't it ACER? The C-140 or something like that? The CR-48? That one. That was unbranded. Wait. I don't think they ever said like an O-Ber.

I thought it was literally a logoless matte black featureless laptop just what you want oh no that was azer that was aeser it was azer ACER okay ACER made it was there a logo are you looking at pictures of it yeah I'm looking at picture I don't see any this this is like the first ever Chromebook oh you can see how they got me into Chromebooks because they made a featureless matte black sleek Chromebook to start it off and I was like I think I could get into this and then you tried to use it yeah it has like one gig of RAM in it yeah yeah it has like one gig of it yeah So, I love Cromics. I used one for all throughout college.

It was awesome. But then I graduated and I had to do things for work. And I was like, now I can't use this computer. I need a new computer. And if I'm going to spend like, I don't know, let's say it's, what, $1,500 for a premium? They kept saying premium. So I'm assuming it's going to be expensive. That is expensive.

Too much. I picture when they say premium, I pictured a thousand. A thousand. I mean, that is premium, but I mean, you get a MacBook Air for that. For this? And they didn't announce any other specs. No, but the MacBook Air, don't just. Jiggle, baby.

Doesn't have a glow bar. I mean, premium could mean anything. The typical Chromebook range is like 250 to 550. Yeah. 650 maybe. But this isn't a Chromebook mark. This is a premium hardware. Right, premium hardware.

But that could just mean more metal than plastic. That could mean like a better keyboard deck and a brighter screen and stuff like that. It doesn't necessarily mean like high-end specs and tons of RAM. I think that's exactly what it means. I think it just means metal. Yeah. Yeah. $7.99.

$7.99? I don't know. I don't know. It's going to be interesting to put this alongside a Chromebook and see what they actually do differently. Yeah. That's what we'll see. It doesn't seem like it'll be much. We need David to test this.

David come home. Speaking of David, you know what he's not here for? Trivia. Nice. But Mariah will have to, wait, so you get. What am I plan for? You played for Andrew last time? Yeah.

So you'll keep playing for Andrew. You're in David. You're in David. I think you should play for David. Okay, sorry. And I'll play for Andrew. Okay. Okay, you play for the person who seat you are in.

Yeah, yeah. I'll play for Marquez. That's fair. Adam will play for Andrew. We can swap seats. Do you want to play for David? No, I want to play for me. I want to play for me.

I need points. I need points. All right. There's going to be a Price's Right Rules question. Awesome. So closest without going over. 1799. Sony is known for choosing very bad names for their products because the names are

overly complicated and filled with crazy numbers. Google has the opposite problem where their names are so simple, they often overlap with one another and become confusing. That's funny. They do do that. How many Google products and services have the word book? No. Oh, God.

Is there a limit? What's the biggest number it could be? Price is right rules. Price is right rules. And I'm just going to give you guys one hint right now. The Chromebook pixel is only one. Even though the 2013 and 2015 Chromebook pixels are different devices, I'm counting those. as one device because they have one Wikipedia page.

Yeah. Okay. These are products and services. So remember, just to kick it off, there is now the Google Book and Google Books. And these count, like these current releases. You're adding these. Yeah, like I said, both Google Book and Google Books is on the list.

David, you're not going to get any points today. I'm sorry, brother. David is somewhere yelling at his phone because he actually knows the answer. This is the one he was made for. I'm not even going to write anything down yet. Service does not have to be alive still. No, it does not. Oh, no.

Great. Chances are it is not alive. That's also true, statistically speaking. And remember, there can be letters immediately preceding or immediately succeeding the word book. It can be like, blank, blank, like book or book, blah, like. Like book later. All right. All right.

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And you know us, we thought, what better than a game? And today, for the first time, I have my compatriot, Rufus, who came up with this amazing game many weeks ago and we have put it into effect. Do you guys remember when we did Family Feud and we asked the waveform audience to answer a bunch of questions? Yeah, we did. Yeah. Will we bring you today? Uh-oh.

An even better version of it called... I didn't time this one very well. Reddit Family Feud. That's like Reddit Family Feud. We found nine Reddit posts on Reddit.com that had answers that we thought were funny, interesting, bad, uninformed, informed, whatever you wanted to be. That's just Reddit.

You just described Reddit. We gave them to... I don't remember which AI model. It might have been Alibaba's Quen. Quen. I think it was Quen. We gave him to Quen, and we said, Quen, perform sentiment analysis.

And let us know what the most common or upvoted answers to these questions asked on Reddit were. So the way this game is going to work is we're going to read you the Reddit post. You guys are going to have to guess what is either the most commonly answered thing or the most commonly upvoted thing. And we'll let you know before each question. This is an upvotes one. This is a sentiment analysis one.

And I'm just going to give you a quick example. This first question we're going to do is, why do people hate Apple so much? The number 10 answer on the board, so this is a most commonly answer one. The number 10 answer is lack of innovation year over year. Nine people. That was number 10?

That was the least, that was like of the top 10, the least answer ones. This is like daily tens, but in real life. Yeah. So if I had answered that, I would get how many points? So I'm glad you said that because I was about to bring that. The last time we did Family Feud, we used a linear, straightforward answering system that I think we stole from, I can't remember how they do scoring on the TV show. But, you know, like if you answer the 10th answer, you'd get one point.

If you answered the top answer, you get 10 points. This time we said, increase chaos by a lot. And the points are based on how common that answer was. So if you had gotten that answer, lack of innovation year over year, you'd have gotten nine points. If you had gotten the number one answer for this question, which I will not read right now, you would have gotten 58 points. Oh my God. Damn. This could get out of hand. This will get out of hand. This will get out of hand. That's kind of the point.

Okay. So the way we're going to do it is you hit your buzzer. It locks everyone else's buzzers. And then you've got the chance to answer. You'll either get it right or you'll get it wrong. If you get it right, you get to make another guess. and if you get it wrong then it gets unlocked then someone else can buzz in and steal it I'm gonna go nine for nine you guys are not gonna be able to answer the segment will be over in about three minutes

and if you guys are somehow like prime brain redditors like you just can guess what reddors are doing then we'll turn on that you could get three guesses and then you're not like a guess on that question anymore but I think we should be good as is we might need to test this out and just see what the... I don't know how to decide who I guess I've done a good amount of redidding in my day

Yeah, so why do people hate Apple so much? Someone buzz in, though. You buzzed. Me, Adam. Why do people hate Apple so much? Because it's expensive. It's expensive. Ding, ding, ding.

That's, yeah, number one answer. Number one answer. 58 points to Adam. Yeah, that's right. Catch up. That's crazy. Eat my bubbles. All right.

All right. Oh, we're just, you just. No, no, you got it right. You don't have to buzz again. Oh, okay. So I can just keep going. Okay, okay. So then the next most common answer by Redditor,

is because it's ass. Because it's bad. Because it's bad. I don't think anything... Oh, sorry, was that preemptive. It was, but Mariah, we'll let you answer. Can I say they break easily? Like of repairability? That's funny. So that's people...

No, yeah. But Marquez, you did... But is in and you did say not repairable, which is the third most sad thing on this question. There you go. For 36 points. Wait, so did I not get any points? No.

What the fuck? Wait, you just said yes to all of that. And then... No, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't change your mind. It was...

Yeah, what he said. I've been feeling the whole game's going like that. Yeah. Are we still going? Yeah, are we still going? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I think Marquez got that right. Oh, you keep going.

Okay, sorry. The board is yours. User hostility. Explain what you mean by that. Ecosystem wall. Yep. Now, walled garden ecosystem. Number five?

Number five. 29 points. Interesting. What about like not available in my, or yeah, not available in my region. Unfortunately, I do not see that. No way. They're too global. They're trying to get themselves into every region.

They're ugly. The design? I'll go back. I feel like Reddit would say that. I feel like they would. No. People think they look great. Sims.

Lack of customization. That's a good one. Give me that. Give me that. No. No? Come on, Reditors. Markets.

Lacking in, like, updated specs. They never have the biggest batteries or the highest numbers or any of that. No. No silicon carbon, you know. Okay, wait. Hmm. Let's see, let's see. No games.

No games. Just Reddit. No way. Yeah, gaming limitations. Let's go. Number four, to answer for 32 points. Gamers spend 12. $1,200 on GPU alone counter argument.

Sure. Thanks. So gamers cannot afford this. Gamers cannot afford that. A lot of these are, you're answering these questions as if the redditors would give the actual answers. Yeah. But a lot of these are just. LLM.

Redit responses. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's things like a lot of these are, I don't care. I'm going to talk about something else. I could have said that. Okay, so I'm gonna, I got that right. So I'm gonna answer.

So think about if you said, why do Apple products suck so much? You know, what is the second highest answer on the board would be? Your mom. Because they always have. Not quite. Mariah, I see you itching to buzz in. I don't know. They don't like Tim Cook.

No. Okay. Would it be they don't suck? No. We didn't buzz in. I just buzzed. Which one you want to give them? Oh, I thought.

This is an example. I just give it to six. Okay. There's the number two answer on the board. It's sort of a slight variation on that, but it's slight enough that I think it deserves its own thing. But next time, let's make sure we're using the buzzers, folks. Okay. Got it, got it, got it.

I need to think like a Redditor. Wait, so what was your most recent answer? What did you just say? It doesn't suck. It doesn't suck. And the answer on the board was build quality and reliability is actually excellent. So we have both sides. We have, we already say like.

Mariah. So we have it doesn't suck, but we already have it sucks, right? Question mark? But why does it suck? It doesn't matter. They just say they don't like it. Not on the board. No?

Siri is goaded. Not on the board. I don't think anybody thinks that. I think they would say something about the pretentious attitude of presenting everything as a revolutionary when it's not. That, I would say that is seven. tribalism slash platform wars that feels that feels on point. Can we say like explicitly better than Android?

Nothing. That might have, I might have given you tribalism for that. Okay. What was this Reddit post again? What was the question? It was why do people hate Apple so much? I thought that was an example question.

Yeah, that doesn't count. Were we getting points? Were we getting points for that? Yeah. And it's a closer game than you would think. Oh, really? Whoops. Okay.

Let's do it. Oh, boy. Guys, after that first question, you said this is a close game. Adam, you are in second place with 90 points. Marquette, you are in first place with 110 points. And Mariah, holding up the caboose with zero points. It's okay, Mariah. The questions you guys left on the board were number nine.

People think hating popular things makes them smart. Number eight was an HP elite book comparison. And number two, the variation on they don't suck is people who hate it haven't actually used. Oh, that's a good one. By the way, 14 people commented about the HP Elite book. Wow. What forum was this on? Reddit.com.

R slash Mac. Oh, yeah, we should read the subreddress. Yeah. You're probably talking about the NEA or something. Guys, this next question. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

No. Wait. I'm ready. Guys, let's just give it up for Rufus. This is one of my favorite games we've ever done. Pick it off this next question. Very similar. This is on R slash computers.

Compuda. Why does everyone hate Windows 11? The ads, bro. Number 10 answer? Ads in the OS. That's number 10? Yep. There's worse.

Okay. The really hate Windows 11. The bugs. The bugs is not. He's just going to run down the list. Yeah, that is number eight. Oh, damn. Okay.

That's really not the high. It's worse than Windows 10. Okay. The aesthetics. It's not very clean or polished or good looking. No, I'm not going to get this here. Okay. All right.

Privacy. Yep. Privacy is, yeah, what number is that? Four? Five, the number five answer worth 27 points. Damn right. Adam, you control the board. Okay.

Next up after privacy. The obvious answer is build quality. This is Windows 11, which is an operating system. Yeah, it comes on laptops, does it not? It comes on everything. AI. We hate AI. AI is the number two answer

38 points she is officially here folks Bray you have control Oh no We hate McAfee Good answer Good answer Good answer

No one said that Adam I'm gonna go Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Oh no no no Bloatware and AI features were bundled into one Okay Okay unfortunately yes Adam I'm sorry you

Yeah no it's fine yeah whatever No Mariah gets to go so she has control No I went wrong I was wrong because I said. Yeah. Oh, we're bundling it? Okay, okay. Oh, man, I never thought I'd make it this far.

We hate Windows 11 because of the, we already, did we talk about the tiles? We said, you said design or UI, right? I did. Tiles, we see in tiles on here? Star menu. Okay, we got to explain this. Marquez, you said the design and we said no. However, UI changes are on here.

But I do believe tiles was brought into Windows picture in Windows 8. Yeah, that's old. That's old. So. But honestly, just to make it a more competitive game, let's keep Mariah the points. We're so back. David, I'm going to make you proud myself. Okay, Mariah, you have to control the board once again.

Man, other things that we hate. The number one answer is still on the board, folks. That's right. I got this. I got this. I know it is. I feel like we've said all the main. I feel like we've said all the main things that we don't like.

We did not. What else is there? Right, I'm going to start as five seconds. So many things. We don't like the game hub. It's terrible. I don't see Game Hub. I know, no one cares.

We actually do like Windows. Good guess? That was my guess. That was my guess. Unanimously hated. There are no left turns in this one. Unbelievable. Can you read the thread again?

the title of it? Fred again? Why does everyone hate Windows 11? Okay. Co-pilot. Bundled into AI features. Ah, okay. Because they all use Macs and they're too dumb to learn Windows.

I'm trying to think like a Redditor right now. Wait, okay. Great point. Think like a Redditor. Because Linux is better. Oh, yeah. Should be there, but it's not. We miss Windows 10.

These are all... Damn. We're better Redditors. Redditors. Yeah, that's crazy. We're thinking too small. Okay, wait. Mariah.

What's that weird thing that, like, screenshots your whole history. We don't like that. Copilot. Okay, never mind. No, that's, um, is it not? It's called recall. Recall. It's also written down in that same answer.

Okay. We've hit the number two answer like five times. We haven't hit number one? Nope, still number one. Damn. You're missing a few textbook classic Microsoft complaints. Mm-hmm. Oh, we said AI already.

because they didn't add, I don't know. We don't like Microsoft now. System requirements. There are two answers on the board that involve Microsoft, but not, it's a little too general. We don't trust Microsoft. No, it's still too general. What does Windows do that you hate?

That I hate? Yeah. What does Windows do that you wish it didn't? Oh, because it doesn't. Oh, that's a different. I was going to say it doesn't have all the Apple apps in FinalCode. Stuff like that. Too many pop-ups.

What does it do that? What does Windows do that you wish it did not do? It's incompatible with things. Random forced updates. Yes. Is that number one? Number nine. What?

What is number one? Number one's going to be. I have three points. Something insane. What is number one? It has to do with my... Related to Microsoft? Yeah, wait.

Okay, maybe we should brainstorm. Marquez, you said bugs, right? Earlier, I think that might be the number four answer. I think that because it's talking about, I think. I, but he, we already gave him an answer for it, so we can give him double the points. That's true. What about Microsoft? So either somebody gets the specific.

Yeah. What do we not like about Windows 11? Oh, yeah, Windows 11 specific. Andrew's like screaming at home, right? Yeah, yeah. This is. Oh, oh. Markets.

Drivers. Oh. driver updates? I hate drivers. System requirements. But perhaps... What about, explain? The minimum system requirements

are always so high. Yep. Yeah, we'll give it to you. That's number one? No, the number three answer was hardware requirements forcing e-waste from older compatible unsupported PCs.

Whoa, shout out to Reddit for caring about e-waste. Redditors love the environment. Yeah, that's awesome. We still don't have number one. That's insane. That's crazy. They're all banging on their keyboards right now. What's...

Yeah. It's gotten too expensive. I think we're at that. Damn it. Yeah. What do you need to run Windows? Marquise. You need a GPU.

Can't get one of those. RAM. No. Damn. What's funny is that this is something that you also need to use a Mac. Huh? No. No?

I'm confused. Are you sure about that? You do not need the equivalent thing from Apple. Never mind. The equivalent? Guys, I think it's time to wrap this one at. I don't know, man. We don't know.

Tower, PC tower. Number one answer, forced Microsoft account requirement. Oh, God. Also still on the board. Number four, broken updates and system crashes after patching. And the number seven answer, we hate One Drive. Get rid of One Drive. Nobody likes it.

What's so funny is the number one answer is the reason my dad won't use it. He complains to me all the time. Should have listened to the elders. How did I not get that? That is the number one thing I was annoyed by when setting up a competing video's piece. It's so fleeting. It's just for such a short period of time. It's like an hour.

It's like the first hour. You own the thing. So we're going to move on to our next point, our next question. And to round out the points we have Marquez in first place with 187. Adam in second place with 117 and Mariah rounding out the back with 61 points. All right. We're not that far behind. If we combine our forces, we can beat him.

Real quick. I just want to make sure something, I just want to make sure everything's right. Adam, can you look at your camera real quick? Jesus Christ. Did you do it? Bring Andrew home.

Bring Andrew back. Oh, God. What's the next question? This one is the one that David will be sad. He missed because it is from our solo traveler. I thought it was from R slash analog. Solo traveler. Why are you laughing?

As he's solo traveling right now. travel right now. That's funny. Of course with the subreditor. Our slash solo traveler. Solo travel, excuse me. And the question is, do, peak design backpack.

All right, well. No. No. Damn. Does anyone else want to try and RuPaul this one? There's no penalty. There's no negative.

Lonely. Nope. That's all there? Okay. Too expensive. No. Okay. The question is, do you bring your laptop on trips?

No. You got to give me more, though. No, it's too heavy. Wait, wait, that is the number one answer on the board. No travel light with just phone slash tabloat. That's what I do. Nice, Adam. That's the only answer.

Thank you. I have nine more. Number, wait, I said, oh, sorry, I got excited. Yes, I need to work. That's the number two answer. Let's go. Only for work trips. Yep.

Can't stop working. Let's go right down the list. Number three, sometimes depends on the trip. Yep. Which one is that? You got to give me more info about the trip. What's the differentiator? Am I visiting family or not?

Nope. Damn. Markets. Yep. Sometimes depending on if I need to write a lot on this trip, type a lot. Keyboard. No. Keyboard.

That would be the answer. God. Can I get a big e-word? Big business? No, that's kind of the only number two answer, only for work trips. Oh. If I have a meeting. No, it's still work stuff.

Fair. It's the biggest screen I can bring with me, so I'll watch a movie on it. That's pretty good. No? Watch a movie? Make a movie. I mean, you could edit a movie on it. Okay, that is...

What? The number... Yep, the number six answer for photography slash editing needs. That's way higher than I thought. Oh, for solo travel. Okay, what else would they say? They would say, um... I forgot we're doing solo traveling.

They would say no, they don't even own a laptop. That's good. Nerds. No. These are right. Sorry, Brian. They're like, no, I don't want it to break on my trip. Oh, that's a good answer.

I don't have that. You don't want anything to happen to it. There are other reasons. that people said they would not bring one, but breaking is actually not one of the ones listed. That's like my number one reason. I don't want to bring your places. No, I don't want it to get stolen. No, I don't want to get stolen is the number five answer.

Thank you, Mariah. Yes, how else do I game? Surprising to you. What? Nerds aren't gaming. R slash solo travel. What would these people? Gameers don't solo travel. Digital nomad.

Yeah, for work. Nope. I hate that. You know what, Mariah, just to keep a competitive. we're going to give you the number eight answer on the board long trips only Months not weeks Digital nomads she said

She said digital nomads I don't want the points Different type of nomad You already have the points We literally cannot subtract them from your score Also Yes that is what you said Nomad implies you're traveling for

Digital nomad is different Digital nomad No that is a It's like Tron The comments will agree with me Okay What else? I won't bring it because...

How many answers do we have left? Yeah. What's left on the board? Five? The bottom five? Wait. Super quick tangent. Just before I forget, we were...

Everyone was talking about the Google event after it ended and someone was like, yeah, I keep trying to do this Gemini thing with voice and it doesn't work. And someone was like, well, do you think it trained with the voice? And I was like, Ben-A-Jeserate talking to Lisan Al-Gaib. Oh. Oh, trained with the voice. Thank you. All right.

I don't remember who is up. So buzz in. Well, you gave Mariah the digital nomad. Then Mariah has the board and no one should buzz. I don't know, man. Why aren't we bringing laptops? This is we aren't bringing laptops. Well, do you bring your laptops?

What do you think the Reddit community responded to the prompt? They said, yes, I have to day trade. No, it's still business. Stock exchange. My laptop doesn't do anything that I want to do on this trip. Yes, I will quantify that as regretted. bringing it slash barely used it. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. And then... Marquez. It's just another thing I have to charge. I don't want to charge it. Good. No.

Mariah. Did we already say like doesn't fit in bag? Travel light, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think that's the number four answer. Bring an iPad slash tablet instead. Okay. Nice.

Sure. Sure. That's different. Excuse you. Whatever. I thought we said that already. You. Wow.

Okay, so now we have three answers left. Three answers left. The number three, nine, and ten answers. Not a lot of points left. Laptop. What are the Redditors thinking? It's because I brought my tower PCs. Solo travel.

Number three response on Reddit would be where are you going? Oh, like people are asking? Yeah. Now you're thinking with portals. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Um. I think we can see. Why? Are they like, why do you need it? Use case scenario. I think we can sweep this one up. I think we have it up. We have three ads on the left on the board.

This one up. Seems sweeping on your mind, Ellis. Interesting. I'm sorry, Ellis. I love you. You okay? You guys made him sad. So number three, yes, but only a cheap or a cheap laptop or a Chromebook.

Number nine. My phone got stolen. I'm glad I had a laptop as a backup. Number 10. Read a book. Okay. Just read a book. Whatever.

Touchgrass. No, that's not the same. Branding out the points, we have Adam now in the lead with 241 points, Marquez with 214. And Mariah with 92. Let's go. I want it before we do. Good game, guys. We can end this here.

Thank you. I think we should do this one next. Yeah, I want this one. Okay, good. So our slash retcond is the subreddit for the Mandela effect, but it's different than the Mandela effect subreddit because in the rules, it says you have to approach this subreddit with the assumption that the Mandela effect is. real and the past actually is changing.

Okay. So it's pretty... So it's like conspiracy theory? It's like conspiracy theory, but not like, oh, what if these conspiracy theories are real? It's like, this is happening to me. Got it. I have submission for the Mandela effect. Fisher Price car.

Never been about it. It's never been a Fisher Price car. It's Little Tykes. I had one as a kid. Everyone thinks it's a Fisher Price car. Wait, the one you reviewed any of fools? It's not Fisher Price. We have one in the studio.

You can go look. Yeah, but who makes it? Little Tykes. Is Lil Tikes not a subbrand? Nope. Oh, I can see myself getting that wrong. Guys, someone asked R-slash retcond, can your phone read your mind? Oh, yeah.

What did the conspiracy theorists of Reddit respond? They responded, they have to be listening to you all the time. Yes, that's number four answer. Phone listening through microphone slash AI pattern recognition. Yes, you have the board. Which is a Jeopardy thing. I know I'm mixing up my games, but everyone's shut up. Yeah, that's fine.

Can you're filtering your mind? It seems like it's reading your mind based on how much it knows about you, but it just knows so much about you. Real. No, I think that might be the number two answer. Oh. Yeah, coincidence slash algorithms are just really good at prediction. That's the number two answer.

Jesus Christ, Marcus. Why does it think that's running? Add tracking, maybe that's just the number two. No, I mean, there's no. It knows where I am. How does it know? Can we call that the number one answer? I don't know.

No. No, no. No, what would, what would so? Honestly, Mariah, I'm giving you the number nine answer. The number nine answer is spiritual slash psychic abilities explanation. Yeah, this is Amazing. Basically from here on out, the number one answer is kind of reasonable, but everything

else is crazy. Okay. What would Redditors, what would a Redditor type into their keyboard? What was, remind me the prompt again? Sorry. Can your phone read your mind on R slash retcon? Uh-huh. Neurlink.

Yeah, no. The number six answer. The number six answer, Brainwave slash EMF with phone technology. I was literally going to say that next. Okay. Adam, it is, you have it. Conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories.

All right. I'm going to go with Bluetooth. Oh. I do not see Bluetooth on here. Marquez. Eye tracking. Eye tracking is not on here. I'm surprised.

So not like facial recognition. How does it know to unlock my phone? Facial recognition is. Thanks to not on here. How does it know what I look like? Where's the one about the... How does your phone know what you think? Does your phone read your mind?

I'm a redditor. Those are fun in your mind? Um, actually. No, it doesn't read your mind. Uh, that was, oh, skeptical slash dismissive responses. Okay. Wow. Way to go, Marquez.

Okay. Um, it does read your mind. It's got to be one of those. You want to say more? What else would, like, yes, and? Yeah, it's, um, it's reading your thoughts. I don't want to give him those points, but only because he's,

I'm going to be a little strict because you're ahead. Okay, okay, okay. It's reading your emotions. Uh, no. I haven't seen that movie, though, so I don't know. I, I think I.

Mariah. Did we already talk about targeted ads? I think we might have. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We only have a few more. We can,

we can wrap this one up if you're, if you're curious with the, with, yes, Mariah. That's your answer. We don't have number one yet, right? We don't have number one. Can I include like Facebook conspiracy related things on this? No.

Well, what do you mean? I don't know, man. Just Facebook. No. There's no, no, no, no, no. I got one. If you were a Rediter, what would you, what would you write? Market.

The Illuminati. Secret, secret group knows where I'm at. That's pretty, it's kind of like this, but not. I think that's closer to, I thought that's closer to that. I thought that's what that movie was about. Honestly, this is like something, this is the movie. Who here has seen the movie don't look up. I don't think so.

Oh, yeah, I've seen it. Was that the- Give Adam the points then, just automatically. Because I haven't seen it. Have you seen it? Does he need these points? I haven't seen it, but I know a little bit more. It's four points.

I know someone who needs points. You can have a voice. We're just giving Adam points. Yeah, Adam, you have the board. All right. Reasons. Say more. Say more.

So, because they want to sell you things. No. I feel like I've seen this on Reddit a lot. This one time I was talking about something and then I got an ad for it. Personal story of phone showing exactly what they thought about was the number one answer on the board. We didn't want to give it to you earlier,

but that was just two on the nose, Marquez. Yeah, I've seen that on Reddit quite a bit. The Michael Jordan of Reddit guessing. From the logo. Let's go one more guest from everyone here and then we'll wrap up this one. All right, so this one is, is my phone reading my mind?

Yeah. As answered by Reddit folk. All three of the three. remaining answers on the board are insane. Okay. Mark it. The artificial intelligence is simulating a human mind. But we cannot give you those points, unfortunately.

Is there one we're just like we're in a simulation? Yes, the number six answer. We are living in a Truman show-like simulation. Amazing, Mariah. All right. You have control of the board for this last. Way down down. Name another conspiracy theory.

One of these is another conspiracy theory, and I'll give you a hint. This one is for the girls. It's for the girls? Oh, no. Birds aren't real. What are we, what are we lying about? I'm not supposed to tell. Yeah, what did you guys talk about at the last convention?

What was the last meeting? Gwyneth Paltrow conspiracies. Goop? But what's the conspiracy? Come on, give me something. She like, I already said Illumani. Aliens. Let me help.

Pirates of the Caribbean? Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory. The blood of the youth. No. Atrina grove. Pizza gate. Sorry, got that.

Can your phone read your mind? Conspiracy, conspiracy. I got nothing. I can't think of anything else. What did we miss? That's okay. I think we wrap this one up. What is it?

The last two on the board are the number three answer, Manifestation Theory. We're creating these synchronicities. Or number seven answer, haptic feedback reading energy vibrations through hands. The crystals. The frequencies and the manifestation. The points. Holy crap.

Okay. Okay. The point standings now are Mariah with 116 points at the back, Adam with 260 points in the middle, and Marquez with a whopping 368 points in the lead. Is this a tech podcast? No. It's about to be because it's time.

It's been weeks. to hit you guys with the absolute banger of this game. Okay. The question is, this is an R-slash Android. Oh, let's go. I'm ready. Fitting for today. I've spent enough hours.

I was in there this morning. Let's go. What is the worst Android phone you've ever owned? God, there's so many. That could be number one. HTC, Thunderbolt. Number three, answer. No way.

Really? Okay, good. Worst Android phone. I want to go with a Nexus. I was thinking something similar. Nexus 4. Nexus 4 is literally on there, I apologize. What?

Okay. Worst Android phone I've ever used. Samsung. Galaxy S-25 Edge. It's probably not on there yet. It's probably too simple to get there. Galaxy S8 edge or S7 edge I forget which one it was

Mariah Pixel 6, no reason in particular Pixel 6 is on there From experience Specifically noted were the battery life And overheating issues Let's go Oh my God

Galaxy S8 Oh no no yes I'm gonna say that one No No Worst and iPhone I've ever used What's the real? the really, really thick is it Motorola phone?

Oh my God. What's the big daddy phone? Motorola. I don't know. I don't know. Motorola. Come on, just name a Motorola phone. Any Motorola phone.

You can do it. What does Paris Hilton have? I don't know. You know the one I'm talking about? I don't. She had a razor fold today. Can I Google this? What is this thing called?

Galaxy Nexus. No. Oh, that one never would love. I loved it, but it had some problems. Uh, LG. Wing. Oh, there's a lot of LG phones. I can here.

Marquez. Okay, LGG8. No, that one was awesome. Okay, LGG9. Okay. LGG6. The Note 7. Yes.

Oh, why are you Googling this? I couldn't remember. I couldn't remember. Listen, this isn't my life. I don't know all these phones. 7 noted for its explosion risk. Yeah. That makes sense.

That one did explode. What's the one that, like, exploded the Samsung phone? That was the note 7. Was that the one? That was the one. Great. Okay.

Yeah. Hmm. You know, another Android phone. Yeah. Is there like a, like a razor situation in here? Yeah. Y'all give that one to you. Razor M was on there.

Hell I am. I'm only giving you that one because. Because you're so Bonds on. What number was that? Just Razor M. But we still don't have one, two, or three, right? Oh, yes. You have three, you don't have one or two.

Okay. Okay. One, two, five, seven. Worst Android phone. Ever. Ever made. Ever made. Ever made.

Or ever used, right? Owned. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Guys were getting close to it for a little bit. Can I say the Samsung fold one? That is not.

No. That is good. So bad The bad phone The Z flip one I'm gonna think of like phones that were bust of the year Like it's not gonna be this saga Salana It's not gonna be upvoted a lot

But something is a lot of old stuff on this list It has to be a phone that people have old This is not upvoted This is how many people actually wrote this down Oh Yeah this is not upvoted How many people wrote it Yeah

I was gonna say red hydrogen But nobody bought that So that's not gonna be up there Um, Hmm. Okay. Start naming phones, man. What's the phone that a lot of people said?

That's what I'm thinking. A lot of people bought it and a lot of people didn't like it. The Motorola Droid X. I love that film. It was lumped in with Motorola Droid series slash Razors. Oh, okay. That's one answer. What's that Windows phone?

Not an Android. Not an Android. Mandela effects? Right. You just got retcon. Android phones are the worst. Guys, we can wrap this up if people are getting slow,

but I will say, I don't know what of Android phones, Adam and Marquez, you guys were circling the drain earlier. When? LGG3. No. Damn.

LG wing. I said to that. No one cares about the phone. LGG5. No. LGG1. Markets. LGG4.

Oh, that's a lot. The number one answer on this. The G4 was sick. The G4? People said that it had boot loop issues. Oh, right. The G4 was, yeah, it was, yeah, it was bad.

I was gonna say G flex. The G5 had, like, the modular, like, pull out the battery thing. But the G4 was, was, that was number one? That was number one. That was number one. Guys, I think we should wrap it here. There is no possible way. Oh, wait, no, I could get one.

Although, no one bought them. Like, Sony Xperia one. All Sony Experian bones is the number 10 answer. What? Who even knows those exist? Six people apparently. Wow. This is a small thread.

Yeah. Okay. Okay, wow. That's it. That's all of them? That's all of them. Oh. Guys, the answers left on the board include the number two answer.

The Samsung Galaxy J-series slash Samsung budget phones noted their laggy, terrible experience. The Samsung S-21 and S-22 series for overhearing and people were upset about Ex-Nos. S-20 Ultra? Just 21 and 22 series is what Quinn decided to sum up for us. At number seven, 12 people put one-plus early models, including the 3T and 7 Pro for software issues. Seven Pro is on my favorite phones ever. Yeah, phone's awesome. Interesting.

Wow. Okay. I think. So I won, right? Hear me out. We're combining our points into one to beat. I still still would win. You still wouldn't beat him.

There's surely there's no one. Surely it's not possible. You would still be about 30 points short. Oh. Wow. Do you guys want to- Okay, Marquez, I have a proposition. I think we got to wrap this game up and we'll pick it up maybe as a segment

of the next trivia extravagance. Guys, ooh, the lights are being really weird today. Anyway, thank you for playing Reddit Family Food. our final score is Mariah the caboose with 153 points, Adam carrying the one with 297 points, and Marquez, absolutely dominating the field with 446 points. Thank you for playing. Thank you, Rufus, for coming on today's little segment game thing.

Andrew David, we miss you. Come home. Come home. Come back, David. You can't be far. The lights are so bright at the big table. Come back. I miss my corner.

You can bring all the new ones with you. The little ones. Guys, with that, we have our actual trivia. Oh, no. Okay. I'm ready. No one hit your buzzer because it'll mess up the computer. Is there another question?

There is another question. It's also about Google. No. Guys, Google's official blog, the keyword, which is notoriously wrong about Google things all the time, has a convoluted and frankly confusing article about how Gemini got its name. I've read it several times and I'm still not sure where they got the name Gemini

from. But you know what is not mentioned on this confusing article? What Gemini was called when it was first released? Because if everyone remembers, they changed the name to Gemini after a little bit. Oh, I remember. Yeah, I remember. What was Gemini called upon its release? I know everyone's

going to be like, oh, what was released? It was a chat bot. Now it's like a different. Shut up. Like, I don't care. Not that. I don't care. Tiny man. Got it. Tiny man.

What are those tiny guys doing? Yeah. They're stepping on your computer. They're inside my computer. Yeah, they're working on. Anyway, we'll be right back after the break. Yeah. This week on Net Worth and Chill, we're diving into another edition of Am I the Asshole, Finance Edition?

And trust me, these money dilemmas will have you questioning everything. I'm breaking down real stories from real people who are navigating financial situations that range from mildly awkward to absolutely. unhinged, and I'm giving you my unfiltered take on who's in the right and who needs a serious reality check. Because let's be real, when it comes to mixing relationships and finances, someone's always asking if they're the asshole. Learn how to set boundaries, protect your wealth, and avoid becoming the villain in your own financial story. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube.com slash you are rich BFF. All right, welcome back to our last little segment here. Chaos of the game show is fun, but we actually do have a little bit more tech to talk

believe it or not, it's a tech podcast. Yeah, we probably should have been just before the game not, I think. Yeah, but it's fine. For those of you who are dedicated, who are really making it this far, we do actually want to chat briefly about Fitbit Air, which is a new announcement, technically from Google, who bought Fitbit and then turned Fitbit into Google Health. And wait, so what was Google Fit?

So Google Fit is no more. And there was the Fitbit app, which they moved into this beta, which was all this new stuff, it is now the Google Health app. Yeah. So the Fitbit Air, this is their new screenless, we saw the leaks of this. We talked about it like two or three episodes before. There's screenless fitness tracker that is supposed to compete directly with the Whoop and all the other screenless fitness trackers, but the Whoop is a big one.

It's official now. It is, it's really interesting. I think they're coming straight for Whoop's lunch because I think the number one thing you'd probably hear from Whoop customers, but what they don't like is that it's a subscription. And it's not cheap. It's like $250 to $350 a year, depending on which subscription level you get. So the Fitbit is $99 unlike the whoop, which was 50,

but that is in addition to a $9.99 per month subscription to Google Health Premium, which is actually not necessary to use the Fitbit. So you can use the Fitbit without the subscription and does basic stuff, calorie tracking, heartbeats, stuff like that. But for all the features, 10 bucks a month. You just don't get like the AI health coach and stuff.

Yeah, and like the more detailed tracking and things like that. And workouts, automatic workout detection, all that's fun stuff. So it is definitely undercutting the Whoop price. And then for people who were thinking about getting a who we're thinking, I don't want to spend as much as I am on the whoop, maybe I'll move to the Google side of things. It'll work on iOS or Android, which is crazy to me, which is nice. That is weird. You know, obviously a lot of these things are locked to one side of the other. Pixel watch is only going to work on Android. Apple Watch is only going to work on Apple side of the fence. But, you know, these fitness trackers working with both

both is nice. And it's got some nice features. So it's going to have a seven-day battery life roughly. You saw the different colors. There's like a Steph Curry special edition, but there's also a black one. You can charge it for five minutes to get one day of battery life. Clutch. It has a regular charger. It doesn't have like that the whoop charger. It has like a pin. Well, it has a proprietary charger. It's a proprietary charger. But you have to take it off. The hoop charges like a little puck that you can like slide onto the whoop itself. That is sick. It's really cool. I like that a lot. I will say when I was using it for a bit, I would slide it on to the whoop and then just like go about my day. That thing slaps into everything. Every corner you turn around, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, hitting that. But as soon as it's done, you take it off and it's right back. Yeah, it's

super dope that you don't even have to take it off to charge it. Yeah. Really clever. So, uh, 50 meters of water resistance. It should have a haptic alarm. There's like a bunch of features you would expect in the Fitbit air. No notifications for Andrew though. No notifications. Sorry. Obviously no screen, no time. Um, but yeah, as far as competing directly with the whoop, it feels like this is just like, hey, do the same thing the whoop does. Give all the same information, but make it cheaper. I'm really excited for this because I've been using the Pixel Watch 3 for a bit and I was paying for the Fitbit premium and I had the whole AI beta coach thing this whole time and I really liked it but it required me to wear the Pixel Watch and it's not that I don't like wearing a pixel watch is just that I also like wearing regular watches so whenever I would wear a different watch I all of a sudden wouldn't get my steps I wouldn't get my sleep tracking I wouldn't get all these things and it's like it's not a big deal who cares whatever it's not the end the world but it's just like a nice to have thing and Fitbit to me was always that kind of product where you just put it on, like when it first came out, it was just like a small

little thing that you put in a strap, a band, and you can swap out the bands, just like this one of the first ones to do that and just give you like basic tracking stuff. And that's all I've wanted for so long, so I'm very glad that you're doing this. I'm just very confused that they're killing the Fitbit brand, which makes no sense to me. Like the products. It's a Google thing to do. Yeah, that's fair. But Fitbit is like, it has such good brand recognition. Like, oh, it's the Fitbit. You know, like now they're turning it into Google Health, which has like a whole different set of implications. The product is still a Fitbit. Yeah.

So you're still buying a Fitbit. But then you have to attach it to Google Health. Yes. Yeah. Not the Fitbit app. Like if I'm on an iPhone and I go to Best Buy and I buy a Fitbit, now I need to download a Google Health app, which is different. Yeah. It's surprising as like a legacy brand that they would want to rename after how many years they have been Fitbit because like, like you said, I don't think, you know, a boomer is going to be like,

Google's tracking my stuff, even though Google's owned them for years. And they know what a Fitbit is, but they don't know what Google Health is or like, you know, all these other things. It feels like a big unnecessary step maybe, but if they're trying to consolidate the brand as a whole for all their health stuff. I mean, I get why they're doing it. It's just I feel like Fitbit has such good brand cachet. It does. Yeah, I think the one thing, so whoops obviously already very popular and has been for a long time. And I think the biggest advantage I actually see between them now that I plan on testing them both at the same.

time side by side and really investigating and digging deep. You're like our little lab rat. Yeah, honestly, I'm just going to wear them both. It's going to be horrible. But the thing that Woop has going for it is there's a ton of accessories for it that aren't available, at least out the gate right now with a Fitbit Air. I'm sure in two seconds on Amazon there will be a ton of third party ones. But when you go to buy a whoop, there's like, oh, you want a whoop?

Do you also want a chest strap? Do you also want a thousand extra bands? And also we have underwear that you could put the whoop in. Like they have a ton of stuff. And the Fitbit Air, there's not even a chest strap or an arm band. It's just the normal bands on your wrist. Yet. So that's what I'm noticing.

But I'm going to test them. I'll have them side by side. So I'll literally AB test exactly how long the battery life is. I'm going to do the same workouts with both of them. I think it'll be really interesting. I also think they'll be very similar. Whoop is really good at the activity auto detection. So I'm curious if the Fitbit is really good too.

It's surprising. Well, the Apple Watch that I've been wearing for a long time is not good at that. It does it sometimes. Like if my GPS location is moving for a while, and I'm outside, then it'll be like, oh, are you doing an outdoor walk? But I could start biking, I could start playing Ultimate, I could start practice, I could start running, and it doesn't really usually auto start. So I'm curious to see how well these will like auto detect and then auto measure and then

tag them accurately. We'll see. Whoop to my memory, because I haven't used it in like a year or two, I think. Maybe like a year. But it doesn't detect it as you're doing it. Like you have to go through the activity and then afterwards it'll look back on your data and be like, oh, there was elevated heart rate here. and according to their phone, they were outside,

so maybe they're doing a run, and then it'll like tag it as a run. Right, exactly. That kind of thing. And then if it tags it wrong, you can adjust it. Yeah, but I do like on the Apple Watch and on like the Pixel Watch, if I'm doing something, it'll just be like,

it looks like you're walking. Do you want to start a workout? Like, that's pretty cool. The thing on the watch is, is when you start a workout, then it's doing this way, way more granular measuring. It's doing way more sampling and way more frequent measuring of heart rate

and things like that, which is why I start the workout manually every time because I want to get that data. So I'm curious, like, if I go start a practice or if I go start a hit workout and then my heart rate drops between sets, is it going to go? Oh, don't have to measure anymore.

That's true. Not really sure how it's going to go. But you said we'll find out. I'm going to, so my plan, tell me if you like this plan or if this is dumb. I'm going to keep the Apple Watch on my right wrist. I don't like it. I'm going to have the Fitbit Air and the whoop on my left wrist.

Okay. And then I'm going to do all my workouts wearing all three. So I have a control because I know what numbers I usually get out of the Apple Watch, but I'll do the workouts, So do the practices, and then I'll get both of the readings from the whoop and the Fitbit air and compare them. Can we get you like a chest strap? How do you feel about being chest strapped up?

I don't mind that, but the chest strap for the whoop is probably going to measure differently from the arm strap, the armband for the Fitbit. So that's why I'm keeping them both on the wrist. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. You can do that. You have fun, sir. You sound thrilled for me. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's the best way to probably test it. Would I approach you wearing all three? I might not. No. I'll be repelling people from me for the three weeks that I need to test them. But yeah, hopefully the video is worth it. Mariah, which one are you getting? Which one? Probably. I mean, I got pixel watch already. So you're not going to get a Fitbit? You're good? I think I'm good. I do enjoy a low barrier to entry. I think a low price point is good and I don't necessarily need the screen. It is interesting that it does only save the data for 30 days. Is that pretty standard for both of these? Well, I think that saves it on the device for 30 days.

So if you like forget your phone or your phone breaks or something, it'll still track for 30 days. And then it'll transfer over. Yeah, I don't think I'm to buy one. You know what's nice about, you have a pixel watch. Yeah. You know what's nice about the Fitbit Air is that also talks to Google Health. And so you can hot swap between them and they will just pick up where the other left off. So if you don't want to wear the pixel watch while sleep,

The Fitbit Air can be your sleep tracker and then you swap back to the watch during the daytime. Yeah. And it'll sort of just keep all the data in line. Which is kind of cool. I just don't think I need to track every moment of my existence and have that data. Wrong. Because I'm not trying to optimize, but I do appreciate the people that want to optimize. I need the data.

Yeah. I need to know how many steps I've taken in my life time. Yeah. It's very important to me. Got to hit that high score. Yeah. Well, there it is. I mean, yeah.

Stay tuned for the video. It's in the works, which means I'll be getting my hands on both soon, so TBD. But yeah, I'm just glad I got the points in our little game that we played. Speaking of points, though. My turn. My turn to get points. Time for the actual trivia questions. Here we go.

I already forgot all the questions. All right, everybody. Nobody asked, except for me, how many Google products and services have the, letters B O O K next to each other. And this is closest without going over. Price is right rules. Okay. Have ever existed?

Well, there's Facebook. There's the books palma. But this is Google specific products. There's Barnes & Nobles. MacBook Pro. All right, who would like to go first? I'll go because I can explain my silly little chart here. All right, what do we got? So my number is six.

Okay. I don't actually know the name of six, but I figure there's Chromebook Pixel, there's regular Chromebooks, there's Google Books, there's Google Book. That's Four. And then there's probably some sort of like a bookfinder service that they had. And then there's probably like a Booking service that they also had. There was a booking service that it wasn't, it didn't have the word book in it. And Google Books was the book finding service. But I will say, six is under the number I found. So you are technically still in contention. Okay.

I had five. So I'm out. And you don't care to list any of them. No. Mariah, what did you put? If it's seven or eight or nine, you win. Well, I'm going to make David so proud. I picked just a really round number, lucky 13.

Unfortunately, that is over. Oh, really? That is over because I just accidentally spoil the answer. The answer is nine. I found nine Google products and services. They are. Are you ready? I'm ready.

I used paper times like these. I actually made, I got a point. The Chromebook. Yeah. Yeah. The Google book. Of course. Google Books.

Yep. Google Notebook. Which is the precursor to Google Key. Notebook Al-in. No, no, no. Yeah. Then notebook L. Oh, okay.

So Google Notebook and Notebook L-L-M are two things. Then the Chromebook pixel. Okay. The pixel book. The pixel book go. Yes. And, and Google Book. Marks.

Congratulations. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Andrew. Marquez, this is a big day. Yeah. Because with that point, you have officially passed Andrew.

That is... Andrew is now carrying the one like he has for years at 24 points. Marquez is smacked out in the middle of 25 and David is still in first place with a whopping 28 points. All right. This is our chance. I'm going to tie it again for you, Andrew. Before Gemini, it was called Gemini, it was called What? Which is a little silly because it was only called this a handful of years ago, but maybe we forgot.

Maybe we forgot. And I think it was only called this for like months. Eight months or something. Yeah. And I don't know why they changed it. Because branding. They just thought of a better name. Yeah.

Like time to kill another thing. Did they think of a better name, though? I don't know that to be true. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this was a pretty poor name. if it's the one I'm thinking of. I thought it was a great name. I kind of liked it.

Okay. All right. Adam, do you think it's a poor name? Why don't you read the poor name first? Terrible branding name. Not a name. I went with Google Bard.

Google Bard. Oh. Yes. I knew that. Mark has, what did you put? I want to see what Mariah. I put Bard. Bard is correct.

Nice. Thank you. Mariah, you also put Bard. In hindsight, I did actually know that information. But I was along the, astrological sign so I put what is Zodiac killer You smelled Zodiac wrong

It's the thought It's the thought Audio listeners don't know the difference When Google When Google eventually kills Gemini at some point They can call themselves a Zodiac Killers There we go It's available

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Throw in the oven. 350. Egg? Oof. Egg. It's crazy. Egg is, A-Y-G is crazy. Egg.

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