Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - The Nintendo Switch 2 is Finally Here!

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David start off by going over all of the WWDC rumors. Then they give their live reactions to the Nintendo Switch 2! After that, they take a trip down memory lane and reminisce about all of their favorite phones that they've ever used. Enjoy! ⁠Vox Media survey!⁠ Links: Bloomberg iOS 26 rumors MacRumors WWDC rumors 9to5Mac Homepod rumor MKBHD Nintendo Switch 2 video Waveform Fediverse episode Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Can I do a quick double double check sound check type beat? Nintendo switch to as well intend to switch to OLED Nintendo switch to OLED Pro XL. All right I'm gonna I'm gonna say that's good Andrew you one more time Nintendo switch to light Nintendo switch to a Nintendo switch to Pro Nintendo switch to three. Okay, can you pretend I said something really funny, please? No, I've never imagined that in my life.

What is up people of the internet. Welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I am the Nintendo Switch 2. Finally. Only video viewers will appreciate what just happened. Audio listeners think we are just exhausting this joke,

but I swear David's holding a Switch 2. I am, in my hands. His name's actually David, but there's a Switch 2 right there. Yeah, wow, in today's episode, we got some predictions for WWDC, because that's next week, so we can chat about that a little bit.

But also Switch 2 in the hand, first slash second impressions, looking at it again alongside my Switch 1 and your Switch OLED. And also we're going to have a fun little game slash activity where we're going to go through our smartphone chronology, every smartphone we've owned. It's going to be different slash difficult for some of us, but you'll see.

You'll see what we mean. But first, the great distraction of 2026. Which is that to distract the world from its perhaps slightly lackluster WWDC announcements, Apple is going to rename all of their software operating systems to 26 to match next year's year, 2026. So where we would ordinarily have gotten, operating systems to 26 to match next year's year, 2026. So where we would ordinarily have gotten, I actually wrote, I took a screenshot of this

to make sure I could remember. Where we ordinarily would have gotten iOS 19, iPad OS 19, TV OS 19, Mac OS 16, Watch OS 12, and Vision OS 3. Two I thought. Instead. No, three. Instead we will get iOS 26, iPadOS 26, TVOS 26,

MacOS 26, watchOS 26 and visionOS 26. Thank you Mark Gurman for that write up. Can I give you a hot take? Yeah. I'm like all for this in general, but also I never really understood the car thing. Like I know that it is, like car model years are always just the name of the next year.

Yeah, but do cars always come out at the end of the year? Yeah. So kind of. So to go on that, it's all matching the year, except that this comes out in 2025, but it's cause it's like the end of 2025. So I guess the majority year is the default. It's not really the end of 2025.

But it sounds way closer to the end. Think about this, it's software you want to sound futuristic. end of 2025. But it sounds way more. It's way closer to the end. The thing about this, it's software. You want to sound futuristic. Imagine using 2025 software in January, 2026. It already feels out of date, right? That's true. You might as well just name it 2026

so that all of next year it feels right. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Software. Yeah, I think this is fine. It's gonna make it easier to remember. When I make my video, I won't accidentally say watch OS nine or 10 instead of the wrong number.

It's just gonna be easy, everything's 26, cool. This is what Samsung did with their phones not too long ago. I think starting in 2020, we got the Galaxy S20 just to match the year. Cool. Well, I'm at least still glad that they're putting the place names on the Mac OS versions at the end. So it should be Mac OS 26 Tahoe.

Yeah, is it Lake Tahoe or just Tahoe? It's my hometown. Oh, cool. Yeah, is it Lake Tahoe or just Tahoe? It's my hometown. Oh, cool. Yeah, it's cool. Wow. Yeah. Didn't they have like a picture of some place you recognize or something?

It's a rattlesnip den. Yeah. My rattlesnip den. It's a picture of Chuck Yeager. Please no. That's a deep cut, Ellis. But no, I think what we're actually expecting to see, the main, maybe most exciting thing,

if we don't get many in the way of AI updates, is this new visual refresh of iOS, which has, we're expecting glass. We're expecting vision OS-like, crystal-like, foggy, glass-looking type UI across the board. A skeuomorphic, realistic. I think it qualifies as skeuomorphic, because it's material design, if you will.

If you will. It's material design, if you will. If you will. It's material. But things. Any other name. Yeah, things will feel transparent and it will change the looks and shapes and aesthetics of the entire OS. Yeah, I think it'll be fun.

Are we gonna do this with the watch OS too, or is it just the phone? I imagine it should be everything. Oh, everything. Mac OS, watch OS, TV OS, and vision, everything is gonna be classic. Yeah. That's cool. I'm like, I'm very curious in how this ends up feeling, but any big difference is kind of nice

because the last big update on the iPhone, at least, was iOS 7. So it's kind of cool seeing, you know, a big visual refresh. Tech just goes in circles though, doesn't it? Remember Windows 7? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The whole thing was Aero. Uh-huh.

Which is just glass. I feel like that's not that new. If you watch any of Microsoft's ads, they all have like that Aero glassy design. Yeah, Aero glass, yeah. So, you know. I like that they're putting them all more similar together, like the names.

Their whole thing is that they're trying to make this easier to switch between everything, which I think Mac for so long has been, the iPhone or the Mac is the easier thing to use for like non-tech people. But at the same time, I'm so interested to see what all of our like family thinks about this big update. Cause I still know like, change is very scary

to people who aren't in our world. I know people who still haven't switched to iOS 18 because the gallery change yeah, and like that one's totally fair though the new photos app This is dramatically worse. It is but like that also means none of them have RCS We did a bad job converting them, but there's someone in our office who hasn't switched because of the gallery Oh, I shamed him the other day Oh, you can you can name them Tim Tim Tim Tim RCS man, you're missing out. Yeah. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, I miss it. I'm on telegram. So it's fine

Yeah, but like yeah, I'm this is supposed to be easier Yeah, I think a lot of people are gonna be scared of it outside of our world well, we'll see cuz I mean there's a lot of like weird natural elements and Sebastian de with who makes halide and Lux and all this stuff He did a really good write-up about what he imagines that it will probably end up looking like and he was mentioning in this write-up That a lot of the stuff that it's probably going to look similar to Apple's been kind of quietly Adding to the iPhone for the last few years. If you'll remember, the shortcuts section of the iPhone on the shortcut button

looks nothing like the rest of the UX. I talk about that a lot, and it's weird because a lot of other phones have copied that since then. Like the action button looks like they just bolted on this weird UI that doesn't match the rest of the phone. And then look at OnePlus's new thing. It looks exactly the same. It just looks totally different from the rest of the phone. But you're saying this is gonna become like.

I think that that will sort of set the standard for what a lot of the rest of the UI will look like. You've also got things like the dynamic island and how it's sort of fluid but also kind of like skeuomorphic in a way, very wavy. It's a very good blog. You should go read it and we'll see how close it is to the actual. Now.

Yeah, he does some like mockups and they, they look really nice. I mean, I think it, it would be a good UI update. They look so good that I saw people that were reporting on them as leaks and everyone was like, these are not leaks. This is one of those things though. Are people going to make these really beautiful like mockups and then we're And everyone was like, these are not leaks. Oh my gosh. It was right up. This is one of those things, though, are people going to make these really beautiful mock-ups, and then we're going to see the real thing and be like,

I wish it was the mock-up. It'll be fun to compare this to Material 3 Expressive. Horrible name. But they're very different directions. So it's kind of nice to have two very distinct styles, instead of just having all technology that just converges. True, because there was a while there where everything was like flat white,

lots of blank spaces, super minimal. Like you could not tell the difference between the setting screen of the Pixel and the iPhone for quite a while. Yeah. They look the same. Yeah, so I like that they're diverging a little bit. I do think Material 3 Expressive,

despite its horrible name, is actually really nice. Yeah, for sure. Just been using it on my Pixel 9, so yeah, we'll see. Okay. Okay. Well, some other smaller WWDC rumors slash predictions. I'll write some down. You mentioned AI already. Yeah.

Mark Gurman does not seem to think we're gonna get a lot of AI from this one. He says, first of all, he says he just doesn't think new series ready yet, and he claimed he doesn't think AI will be the headliner despite Apple needing a comeback. Very stark contrast to Google I.O. Barely two weeks ago it was like, this will be an hour and a half straight

of AI advancements, go. Which is why they did the Android show separately. Yeah, exactly. And now Google, Apple's gonna get on stage and go, new designs, new names. Yeah. Don't worry about the future. It's like what WWDC used to be

before they got forced to do a bunch of AI stuff by the investors and now they're like, we're not ready so we're just gonna go back to what we know. But there have been a few little sprinkles of AI that a lot of rumors have been speculating on. Apparently the shortcuts app is set to get Apple intelligence, which allows you to create shortcuts with natural language, which I think is very cool, because even though the shortcut, the shortcuts app is not that used by normal people because

it has a very if this then that kind of structure, which for people that haven't taken programming might be a little bit confusing to use. If you could just say, hey, when I get home, I want you to blah, blah, blah, I want you to open my blinds and turn on my lights, and it creates a shortcut that does that, I think that could be very powerful. Is this vibe coding? This is vibe coding for if this then that.

For everyone. Yeah. For everybody. It's essentially, you just tell your phone what you want it to do and it figures out what you said and makes the Siri shortcut command to do it. Yeah. I think that's smart.

Yeah. They also had announced last year that Gemini was going to be an option instead of ChatGPT to use on the iPhone when it needed to check stuff. I would do that. And I think that this year might be the year where they actually introduce it. I would love that.

Yeah. I use Gemini all the time. Couple other things, charging estimates on the lock screen. That was something I read, and as an iPhone user, I was like, this is the typical, like, wait, it doesn't have that? I think everyone I've tested for the last decade other than the iPhone has had this.

As soon as you plug it in, it's like, yeah, it'll be four hours, 34 minutes before your phone's full. It's like, yeah. And you put it on a slow charger, it tells you a longer time, you put on a it in, it's like, yeah, it'll be four hours, 34 minutes before your phone's full. It's like, yeah. And you put it on a slow charger, it tells you a longer time. You put it on a fast charger, you're like, oh, this is better, it'll take less time.

They're not branding that under Apple Intelligence, are they? I think they might. I think they might. I hope so. Because that was one of the things I read was they're supposed to be doing battery optimizations using Apple Intelligence,

so this could easily be looped in under this, where it's like, oh, we can tell you how long your phone's gonna take to charge. What if where it's like, oh, we can tell you how long your phone is going to take to charge. What if they are just like, we are expanding Apple intelligence and they just announce a bunch of stuff that's not using AI at all. And then they're like, forget all the things that we said we were going to announce. So they can up their, we shipped it percentage. Yeah, exactly.

Do we think, how little do they mention Siri in WWDC? Since it's not new Siri we were supposed to have. I mean, unless it is ready, it could be ready. That would be the surprise of DubDub. They would have to say it is shipping in the developer beta today if they're going to mention it at all. Do you guys want to bet on an over-under

how many times they say Siri? Could you imagine a DubDub with no Siri? I think they'll say it once. They have to say it. I'm taking the over of it's one, but I think it's gonna be a few. They have to say Siri, but your points, your trivia points. Could you imagine a dub dub with no Siri? I think they'll say it once. Without saying Siri once. They have to say it, I'm taking the over of it's one, but I think it's gonna be a few, they have to say Siri shortcuts, right? Cause shortcuts is a Siri shortcuts.

Oh, is it called Siri shortcuts? I think so. It's just a shortcuts app, but I think they're called Siri shortcuts. That's dumb. So maybe they'll say Siri like four times or something. Cause they don't, the thing that we're hoping happened is they learned their lesson a little bit.

Yeah. And they won't go announcing a bunch of features that aren't ready and might not ship for months slash years. Yeah. But that also means that there's probably way less for them to talk about because a lot of the stuff they're working on is not ready and won't be for months slash years.

So if they're gonna talk about Siri, which last time they said they were having this huge update for, it better be ready. I feel like. It is funny, Apple I think needs to, they worry so much more about when they ship something, it working flawlessly, continuously, like most of the time. Because all of these other AI companies,

they'll show a demo and it'll work in the demo or it doesn't work in the demo like Google's done. And then they actually ship it and it basically doesn't work. And it's like unusable. But Apple, I don't think that they want to do that because they're just afraid of all the bad press they're going to get. Yeah. And on top of it, it sounds like not only was it not perfect, it sounds like it

wasn't even remotely close and so messed up that they couldn't even fix it. Yeah. So they're in a rough spot. I feel like there was some engineer at Apple that was just so terrified to like tell their manager that they weren't done with their project yet. And they're just like, oh, it's too late at this point. You're things in the presentation. It's good to go. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Is ready.

And then he takes a flight somewhere and never comes back. So my favorite rumor was Mark Gurman said they might be bringing live translation to AirPods, which I think Ellis has somehow created 2025 as the year of live translation. Again. Through like finally snapping at the end of last year. You're welcome Silicon Valley investors.

I did this for you. Yeah. So that sounds like you would be wearing AirPods. At least one person's wearing AirPods and you speak your language. They can't understand you, but if they speak. If I'm wearing them, you speak to me in Spanish. It sends that to my iPhone.

My iPhone translates it and then plays it out of the iPhone, I think is what Mark Gurman said. By the way, if that's the case, why don't you just do it from the phone? I've always done this, where you have Google Translate, you can just speak into it in your language, it comes out in the other language, and it goes back and forth.

What's the big deal with typing on the headphone? Totally true, but just think about, think about, you saw her, right? No, sh- Think about the, I said this last episode. I said this last episode. Have you seen her, Mark? Yes, but the platonic ideal of AI live translation

is humans just walk around speaking their language and everyone understands them and you understand everyone. So I don't wanna have to have a device out. I don't wanna have to whatever. I just got this little ear pod in my ear and boom, I have the superpower. But you do, cause it plays, it has to play out the iPhone. Well, if I wanna talk back to them. Well, I guess if, power. But you do, because it plays, it has to play out the iPhone.

Well, if I want to talk back to them. Well, I guess if, yeah, if you want to talk. Yeah, so you either are both wearing AirPods, which in which case you can- Which is Apple's perfect world. That's the Apple perfect world magic moment. Matter of fact, they might have a commercial or some ad where both people are wearing AirPods

doing live translation to each other, speaking totally different languages and understanding each other. Because that's what, that's the visual they want. I hate this. Which is like a magic, I don't know what language you're speaking, but I understand you, the human.

Yeah. They want that moment. It's just so rare that you're going to be hearing another language where you don't need to communicate back. Yeah, exactly. Which is funny, and maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but this is also, this is a rumor, so I don't even know. But like you said, if the phone is out,

you just speak into the phone and turn it, and it speaks back. In this scenario, you speak back to me in another language, into my phone, and then I listen to it on a delay, but you just watch me sit there like, I don't hear if it's talking or no when it's done. Yeah. Because I don't get the audio cue

that he's actually listening to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just listening to Creed in my headphones while you're talking to my phone. Maybe one person has the AirPods with the live translation and the other person is, like, let's say I'm a, so here's the situation, this is gonna work, right?

I'm a tourist, I go to a country that people speak a different language, I have the AirPods in, so I'm glad I have my AirPods because when I walk up to someone and go, hey, where is this street? They have no idea what I said. Nevermind, that's okay. They have something to tell me,

but I don't have anything to say to them. That's when it works. So they walk up to me and say something and I go, I understand and then I walk away. That's it, that's what you get. Because I can't communicate back. And I'm like, take my phone now. Hello, it is me, Taurus.

Please ask me a question about my city. The most magical technology can be amazing moment I ever had was when I was in the remote mountains of Japan and the taxi driver had no idea where to take me, and I was able to just speak into my phone and it came out in Japanese and he spoke back in and it came out in English. Yeah.

That helped him understand that we were having communication. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Now you can lean over and put your AirPods in Japanese and he spoke back in and he came out in English. That helped him understand that we were having communication. Yeah, you're right. Now you can lean over and put your AirPods in his ear. I was gonna say, no, the better scenario, the better scenario is you take one of your waxy earbuds out of your ear and you stick it in the stranger's ear. No. Oh no.

That cannot be the ad. I just, that can't be. I really wonder how they, because the original Pixel Buds had this, the ones with the wire. Yes. Tried to have this. Well yeah, but it was practically the same thing, right? Yeah.

Unless Apple is actually able to do something special that were some scenario that we're not thinking of. I can't wait to see this. I feel like we're either missing something or this is gonna be so funny. Yeah, I think the ad has to be, I have my AirPods in and also I have my phone out to read something in a different language.

Yeah. So I go to a place, nobody speaks the same language as me. I say it to my phone, they hear something, they reply back and I just hear it in my earbuds. Yeah. And then that's how we're talking. But that sucks.

Which is not as good. Yeah. Because they're not really fully seeing that I'm hearing what they're saying. Right. I just wanna say, if we get to DubDub and we see this commercial and at the end, little text at the bottom of the screen says,

coming 2026, I am gonna laugh so hard. Well, according to the OS number, it's already 2026. Coming in iOS 2026, how about that? Uh-oh. There you go. Got him. Got him. Okay. What?

Some other existing app features that may be updated according to Mac rumors. Messages may get automatic translations and support for calls, which I don't really know what support for calls means, like VOIP, but you can already do that via FaceTime, so I'm not really sure. FaceTime audio, I don't know.

Maybe they'll change FaceTime audio to not be called FaceTime audio, because that already is a horrible name. Music may get full screen animated lock screen art. Cool. That's like a Android thing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Apple Notes may get Markdown support, which is a lot of years in the running here. Let's go. Also, a very nice one. You may only need to log into a captive Wi-Fi portal once and all of your devices will already be logged in. So you know how when you like go on your computer and you're at a hotel Wi-Fi and it's like enter your room key number and all that and you have to do it on every

single device you have you have to do on your phone and your laptop. Apparently you only have to do it on one device. Would this work on airplanes where they want you to only be online with one device at a time? I doubt it, because you wouldn't even get, well, I don't know. Well, because in an airplane, you're paying. It's account-based on the airplane, though, and it knows how many devices you're on.

Oh, I just figured it was all the portals. It might be, it might. I don't know. Good question. Also, there is apparently going to be a lot of big Apple home updates. So there is this rumor that they may actually finally announce the HomePad, which is sort of just, I don't know if that's actually going to be the name.

With the screen. But yeah, it's basically the HomePod with the screen, which is their response to the Nest Hub Mini that launched a bazillion years ago. But twice the price maybe. Yeah, but at least twice the price. I mean, but this potentially could be the robotic one that they were talking about, because remember they were working on one

with a robotic arm that would turn and move with you. Yeah. Which would be quite cool. I just don't see them ever doing that. It does seem not very Apple-like to me. It's like the least Apple- sounding product that I've ever heard They would use software. They'd be like our continuity camera is 2mm has a 2mm focal length and it just zooms in on anywhere in your yeah

Can I tell a funny home pad story that I realized I've never told in the podcast before? Oh, wow Sure. I am so I have this family friend who is a home automation consultant professionally. Like you are really rich and have a giant home and want it automated throughout the entire thing. You call him and he like, we'll make sure it's set up properly for you. That's a great job. And I was in his really beautiful home one time

and there was this amazing, like he obviously had set it up for himself too. And he had this beautiful screen in the wall. And he like, it was the software that I think he had wrote himself to like control all of his own things. And what was so beautiful was that the screen was completely bezel-less.

It was just like wall to pixel. And it had the most perfect sort of like bulge. Like it was sort of like rounded and just barely protruding out of the wall in this like really beautiful way. And I was like, where did you find this beautiful display? He was like, oh bro, that's a second generation iPad and the battery is just swelling really bad.

Oh, beautiful bulge. Oh. He's like, I just mounted it in the wall really well. Dang. Oh yeah, putting iPads in walls. Putting a bulging battery in your wall is. Yeah, that's not very smart. Don't do that at home.

I mean, I'm sure he had it figured out. You know, he's a really smart guy. But yeah, that was a funny anyway. Yeah, 9to5Mac was like, this may happen. And the only reason it may happen is that they are planning a pretty big refresh of the home system. And so it would be nice to have hardware that actually runs Apple Home because they don't really have dedicated Apple home hardware right now

I think Mark Gurman was pretty strong on saying he didn't think any hardware was gonna be here But I don't even use any Apple home stuff But like an iMac g4 as the home pad with that like rotating arm would be the sickest thing ever There are a lot remember we used to shoot in breathers or like random studios? Like there's a lot of iPads on walls. I feel like if they just wanted to make a dedicated product that was super premium and designed for that environment, they could do something cool.

Easily, easily. Yeah, I mean, everybody has been making third party software to basically control your Apple Home anyway. So it would be smart of them to sure luck everybody else like they always do. Home OS 26. Home OS also, they could just move forward a bunch of projects that are like kind of ready

just because Apple Intelligence is still not ready. I was gonna say, that's what most of this feels like. It feels like everyone else who's got something going on, we're shipping it this year. Can we ship it? Because the AI thing isn't here yet. Can we move that up by six months, please? Yeah.

So yeah, no, we'll see. This is going to be next week. So if you're listening to this on Friday, literally in a three-day span, we'll be listening to them on stage on Monday, hearing what they have to say. Which is crazy. It's happening quick.

And then the last thing we talked about it last week, but just the dedicated Apple gaming app that replaces the Game Center. Games. Games. You got games on your phone? I got games on my phone. Velatro, not gambling.

Well speaking of games, we have some- Certified by who? Certified by me. We have some gaming stuff to talk about. Well hear that creak? Oh my gosh. We got some gaming stuff to talk about pretty soon. Does that creak?

Not at all. See, there's another bit. I mean that's eight years old. We got a lot more to talk about there. So we're going to do that after the break. But first, trivia. Ooh, it's quieter. That sounds very quiet.

It looks like there was a delay, too, between hitting it and... Wow, guys. Just tell me what else I did wrong. I think that your brand new system is kind of trash. The people watching the video podcast may have, Tell me what else I did wrong. I think that your brand new system is kind of trash. The people watching the video podcast may have with an eagle eye noticed that a few things are different on the producer table. We have switched off of the road caster.

Switch? Yeah. And we are now controlling the lights with a stream deck. So yes, you may see a few kinks that need to get ironed out over the next few days. But so far, I'm pretty stoked. I can do this now. I could do it before, but.

There was a delay. One quick question. Speaking of kinks that need to be ironed out, this is a question that I was asked in a group setting last weekend, and I now need to ask all of you. Do you own an iron? Raise your hand if you do.

What? Wow, that felt like you're exactly. Now raise your hand if you do. What? Wow, that felt like you're exact. Now raise your hand if you use it regularly. What do you consider regularly? Every week. You all own irons? No, I don't use it every week. I use it every time I wear a dress shirt.

Yeah, there are shirts I won't wear without ironing. Okay, question, do you own a shower? I know where you're getting, but that's a far less efficient way. My answer, by the way, was no. I don't use an iron ever. I have a steamer. Anytime I need something that I was gonna iron,

I have a steamer for that. The steamer for most stuff is easier, but there are a few things you can't get done with a steamer. I probably don't own those things. What, like the collar on a collared shirt? Yeah. Steamer's kinda tough to get that.

Or pleated pants are often better. I'm gonna go with that and it'll be fine. Well, I just put it in the shower. Anyway, sorry to distract. Sorry to distract. That was just a random question. David just wastes 50 gallons of water to steam his shirt. Trivia, yes.

Or I could make one AI corner. It would waste the same amount. Yeah, exactly. Guys, it is obviously the day of Switch 2. That's right. And I wanted to ask a trivia question about my favorite thing Nintendo has ever made, which is the Mii.

I think the Mii is a genius idea. I think every part of every piece of Mii software ever released has been perfect. Mii software, Mii-topia. Mii-topia, all the Japanese ones, I can't remember the name of the og me creator The the the street pass was a pass three pass. I think I just think me's are terrific Anyway, so this is like what is a me?

It came out on the Wii yeah, it's a portmanteau of Wii and me, okay Yeah, that's right Anyway, as the Mii sword fighter or the Mii archer on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. This is true, this is true. Everyone, but especially Marques. Marques, you're not getting any of these. Starting in 2007, Nintendo would occasionally release

what they called special Mii's. These were famous Japanese entertainers and celebrities as well as the occasional Nintendo executive. And these me's were not editable. You would get them on your console and they would just live on your console. Other than being uneditable, what visually made a special me distinct from a normal me?

They were ungovernable too. It's like when you hit the button on the Wii to make them all like stand in formation, the one of them would just like roll through. Wow, I know almost nothing about these other than if you like swung your arm back in bowling and looked back, they would all jump in the screen. Yeah.

Do you know about the other Wii bowling little Easter egg? So there was like a practice, like I loved Wii bowling. It was like, but yes, there was like a practice mode where you would start with like a 10 pin thing and move up to a 100 pin thing. On the 100 pin go, go around. If you moved all the way to the side, threw your ball and got the ball to ride on the rail,

because there were no gutters, there were rails. If you got it to ride on the rail all the way to the end, like you'd hear a muffled explosion sound and all 100 pins would knock down. And you'd get a big- What? I got that, I think I did that. Because my friend had Nintendo Wii and and I didn't so anytime I went

over to his house it was like, we gotta do the bowling thing, we gotta do the golf thing. Yeah, I spent a lot of time in Wii Sports. Wii was amazing. Good times. Generational. Well, we'll think about that. Answers will be at the end of the podcast like usual. We'll be welcome back.

I'm holding a Switch 2. Ideally you've already seen our unboxing by the time you're watching this pod or listening to this pod. Is it ideally because you're not sure if you've gotten the edit done yet or ideally because maybe they haven't watched it and they're listening to this? A little bit of both. We're pretty unsure about when that's actually. I'm gonna try.

Anyway, but yeah, we have it now. It's out the box, it's here in the studio. We get to do whatever we want. It's not tethered to something and you can only play like one game on repeat. We can actually jump around the settings and compare them to our other switches, which is I have my Switch One, which was color-wired,

I've had this forever, you've had a Switch OLED, and so you're curious if we'd notice more differences there. Yeah, we can just jump right in. So if you watch that impressions video, there are some things that we noted. My main two things about the Switch Two, it's just bigger and it's more comfortable because it's bigger. The Joy-Cons are bigger, the buttons are bigger, the screen is bigger, the battery is also

bigger but probably doesn't last much longer. But the whole thing is just bigger, which is nice. You have much bigger hands than me. Yeah, I mean, I think people will all generally like the bigger Joy-Cons and bigger buttons. Is that a terrible thing? When I hold that, I feel like this is a better size to just hold like that feels very large Huh when I just hold that the joy cons are great what are better when you're like using them sideways, but yeah It is pretty big. Yeah

And then I guess my slightly more nuanced take is like in this the same thing as the world of smartphones Where people in our world will have a lot more to say about the fidelity and the sharpness and the contrast ratio and the pitch black blacks of the OLED. I think a regular person just sees bigger, brighter, higher refresh rate and that looks better. And so if you are in the more nuanced crowd, I think the switch to OLED that eventually comes out

will speak to you more. But for most people, I think the Switch 2 O-Web that eventually comes out will speak to you more. But for most people, I think just this being bigger is it just feels like an upgrade to all of the Switches. That came before it. It feels a lot like a Steam Deck, to be honest. It's size, yeah. Size-wise, I almost wonder if they were like, oh, well, we can make it bigger

because look at how well the Steam Deck did. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure it was probably well into development by then, but. Yeah, fair. And also just just like how do we make this console where we've kind of nailed the form factor of it already different Yeah, then the switch before so like figures the most yeah, we did this off the pod But Marquez can we compare the unlocking sounds? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna do a magnet sound I just want to feel the magnet so bad. That's all I care about. So this is not the switch OLED

Yeah, this is unlock the switch OLED. Yeah, this is going to be switch OLED, right? It's pretty iconic. So good. Now here's the switch two. No. What the heck is that? It's so wet.

It's so like, staccato. No, it's goopy. It's cleaner wet. It's so like, staccato. No, it's goopy. It's cleaner. It's like goopy and wet and resonance. But it shouldn't be clean, it should be like, huh. Wait, on the home screen, flipping between apps, what does that sound on yours?

A little high pitched, this is the Switch 2. What the heck is that? It's clickier. I think I like that, that almost sounds more like the unlocking of that. Yeah. Yeah? It's clickier. I think I like that. That almost sounds more like the unlocking of that. Yeah. Yeah, it's clickier. Switch ASMR.

Why is this? The thing that really matters, okay, the thing that really matters, remove and reattach a Joy-Con. Whoa. Was that from the speakers? That's from the speakers. Oh, I didn't realize that. No, it's really cool. That's pretty cool. Joy-Con. Whoa! Was that from the speakers? That was from the speakers. Oh, I didn't realize that had a sound.

Yeah, no, it's really good. That's pretty cool. Oh, because your screen is on probably. Okay, hold on, let me see. Let me do the same thing on the Switch 2 now, with the magnet. Yeah, it is. Ooh.

That was kind of nice. I like the like... Sorry, sorry. I messed it up. That's so funny. I like the momentum... Sorry, sorry. I like the momentum that that sound had. Dude, can you do it one more time? Yeah. And there's a there's a little just watch the display as well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's an animation. Yeah.

Oh, it like and I bet and the right side's orange. I'm assuming the left side's blue because of the joy cons are orange or blue. That's kind of nice. And it kind of mirrors the, the sounds, the sound mirrors the sound of taking it off because it's like push the button, pull it out, click. And it's like, it's nice. Yeah. I also think the, despite that sounding really good, David,

from the OG switch, the process of that is like the worst ever. I hate sliding it on. Yeah. This has a lot of animation. I wanna try this so bad. I just wanna try the magnets. This is Andrew, this is your first time actually holding a Switch.

I watched you unbox it, but I tried not to like really hold it. So this is someone who's seen the videos, but is now holding a Switch too. Yeah. So there's definitely gonna be a much, much, much, much, much bigger difference between Switch 1 and Switch 2. There had been rumors that the Switch OLED

was originally going to be like a Switch Pro or some sort of Switch Pro, but they like couldn't get an Nvidia part in time or something, so they ended up just keeping the same internals but changing it slightly. That is funny branding because only like enthusiasts are going to care deeply about OLED display. Funny enough, all three of these switches have very different kickstands. So the original switch has a horrible kickstand, which is just like a tiny little nub that

comes out the back that breaks off really easily. Yeah, I don't like it at all. Wow, yeah, it's horrible. They out the back. Yeah, that breaks off really easily. I don't like it at all Wow, yeah, it's horrible. Yeah, they made this switch OLEDs way better It's a big piece of metal and it like swivels really far back kind of like a surface pro And allows you to do it at like all different angles with the switch to they sort of did a in-between Where they still have that the angled? Kickstand, but it is now sort of like hollow. It's full width, but it's, here, I'll hold it up.

Also, is that plastic or metal? Metal. It is metal. Okay, this is also metal. This is obviously much like whiter and thicker and fuller, so I'm on the OLED. So I'm wondering if the OLED's more sturdy, I don't know. Okay, the Joy-Cons are so good.

This magnet aspect is just such, and it's so interesting that it literally is just magnets and then like one little physical lever that basically is physically pushing it away, but it snaps in so nice. What do we call this thing? The grip. Yeah.

The like the grip to make two joy cons into a singular controller. It sucked on the first one. It was so bad. And this is so nice. And this mouse thing is actually kind of nice. Does it give you hand pain? A lot of people are talking about it.

I mean, I haven't used it long enough. I haven't done it for very long. It's pretty good though. But like, I love these magnets. These magnets are the best part about the Switch 2. Remember when we got all excited because we were thinking that the button like reversed the polarity?

Yeah. It turned out though, this is like a very elegant solution. Like it's just the perfect strength magnet and just the exact far enough push off of the Switch that it will separate. Yeah. Which I'm sure took a lot of development time but ends up feeling really satisfying

to attach and detach. Yeah. And then, yeah, I honestly think that's, the two hugest things, no pun intended, about the Switch 2 upgrade are the way bigger display and the Joy-Cons just being awesome. I will say these bezels are way bigger than I thought they would be on the left and right side.

Yeah, they're still pretty big. I don't mind as much. I kind of feel like they're leaving room for, are the OLED bezels smaller? Yeah. Yeah, it's got a bigger outer bezel, I don't mind as much. I kind of feel like they're leaving room for OLED bezel smaller. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a bigger outer bezel, but a smaller sub bezel by a lot. Yeah.

But I'm thinking the switch to OLED is going to be pretty sick. Yeah. And expensive. I like how this has gone from, since we first talked about switch to like, they will probably make a switch OLED. And then like throughout this day of having it, you basically like when the Switch 2 OLED comes out in 2027. Look at them next to each other. I mean the Switch 2 OLED is way contrastier, way better viewing angles. It looks, sorry yeah Switch OLED, it looks way better. It kind of looks

better. Fidelity wise it's just smaller. It looks much better. Yeah it does. So I feel like there's no doubt they got to do an OLED version of the Switch 2. But the other thing though is... What was I about to say? The Switch 2 OLED... Like I'm not gonna cancel my pre-order? Oh, the price. But yeah. The price. $449 for the Switch, which means an OLED version is gonna be even more.

That is... Gamers can afford this. That's true. If you're a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry. To be clear, I was talking about like a gaming chair or something, but yeah, that's a yeah. And then you got to buy the you got to buy the micro SD express cards. But look at these speakers.

They're very large. Speakers are big and nice and loud. And the second that's the first thing I noticed when I started playing with it is all these speakers are quite loud. Yeah. So they announced a bunch of updates I think even today they announced additional updates and they showed some reporters new games the updated version of the new games and Apparently the newer Pokemon games Scarlet and violet run like exceptionally better on switch 2 and apparently they don't lag like at all

It's like a stable 60 the whole time nice, which you know, kind of probably should have been the norm But here we are. Yeah, there are a bunch of things, a bunch of games I want to run and test for a full review. The other interesting headline that we saw, remember, there is a built-in screen protector on the Switch 2. And if you look right on the very corner, you can actually kind of see it.

It's not as bad as like I was having flashbacks to the original Galaxy Fold, which is like, it looks like someone installed one in the store after you bought it and it's like, I should just peel this off. It's not that bad. So it is a pre-installed screen protector

and you're apparently not supposed to remove it. So I did, I removed it. I'm just kidding, no I didn't. Don't remove it. We left it on. If you want to install a screen protector over the top, it would literally install it over the top of this. I would never know there's a screen protector on that.

If you didn't tell me, it is really close to the edge. The article I read said that the instruction manual says not to open it because it will prevent glass shattering from going all over the place. Which to me just feels like it's not a cyber truck. It's a laminate layer. It feels like, yeah, it's like a windshield. But like also, I mean, that's nice that glass shards

wouldn't go anywhere if I broke it, but like I'm probably more upset that my screen is broken. Yeah, it's broken already. That it's not broken on the floor now. Yeah, that's a pretty big bezel though, is it not? It's a big bezel. Yeah. It's bigger than I thought it would be.

It's a bigger screen and a bigger body and everything is bigger. The thickness, the Z axis thickness is the only thing that's roughly the same as the previous switches. Otherwise you just feel like you're holding like a switch that someone just like stretched in every other dimension.

Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty excited to be able to use these Joy-Cons and not have my hands cramp like crazy, especially because I'm now 30 and have pain everywhere. That's when it starts. Yeah. So, but these are made of what, steel?

I think there's steel. The buttons, so the, yeah. Let's see that. The buttons on the left and right in the inside of the Joy-Con are steel because the magnets inside the Switch are magnetizing to the steel. They're so much bigger. Like, look at this. inside of the Joy-Cons are steel because the magnets inside the Switch are magnetizing to the steel.

There's so much bigger, like look at this. So much better than the old Switch. I don't know if you can zoom in on this Adam, but like here's Switch OLED buttons and here's Switch 2 buttons. Look at the size difference. The old Joy-Cons. Keep it closer to you, closer to me,

cause it's in focus. The old Joy-Con, the bumper you would put on with the wrist strap would give you a bigger button that would, it was literally just a piece of plastic that pushed down on the really small button. These new bumpers now are just even out the, putting the wrong one on, just even out, you know, the top part of it and gives you some feet

for the mouse features, but you're still using the buttons because they're actually good buttons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, SR and SL. Yeah, yeah. It has this nice matte finish too, that's like a sprayed matte. So I'm curious how long that's going to last.

My Color Wear Switch one, I also have matte paint on it. And let me just say, it's a choice. Whenever I get something color-weared, I have to think about how it's going to wear. And if I use my Switch a lot more, it would be more obvious, but there's shiny spots. Same thing on a laptop, with a matte keyboard, like you get shiny spots.

So we'll see how this ages. It's obviously currently in pristine condition. Yeah, I'm not very careful with my Switch OLED. See, it's not just me. I'm not very careful with my Switch OLED, and it's definitely got a lot of scars and scuffs all over it, so we'll see how it goes. I'm not very careful with my Switch OLED and it's definitely got a lot of scars and like scuffs all over it. So yeah, we'll see how it goes. But um, yeah, very exciting.

I'm pretty excited to replay Breath of the Wild because I never actually finished it. I just got close to finishing it, but I didn't want to finish it because I didn't want to have to start over. And then I did never, I never played Tears of the Kingdom. So I want to play that as well. I am currently still stuck in a temple in Breath of the Wild. It glitched in a weird way that I can't revert out or get out of it. I'm just completely stuck.

So I have to just start completely over. Well maybe the Switch 2 update will fix that bug. Maybe. Yeah, throw it on the Switch 2, it'll find you a way out or something. Sick update. The big questions I'm going to have are battery life. Yes.

How is battery life? That's gonna be a big question. Uh, also I would like to know how Mario Kart world is. Cause I was told by many people that this game, I have a lot of friends who have played this already and they've said that this game is like much bigger than just racing around in Mario Kart. It is like the open world aspect is actually there's something to it there. Here's, I heard this like the open world aspect is actually, there's something to it there. So.

I heard this about the open world part that sounds like kind of a bummer, but you still have, you still get the same, like slowness on non-tracks, which in free roam, sounds like such a pain in the neck. Like in your race, when you go off the track on the grass, you go slower because you're racing.

You have to take that. But if you have, I saw that you get the same slowness when you're like wandering around, which when you're doing that, you're only not on the track. So you're just driving maybe when you're not like in a race, it would tear that off. I heard it was in the free room. I'll try. Also, what is a crab side stepper? Nintendo, please make an update for Super Smash Bros.

Ultimate on Switch two, because I don't think they've announced that yet. And that's crazy. There's a lot of Mario games. That's not a Mario game. I mean, that's kind of what the OLED. It's coming with OLED. Yeah. Yeah. Considering it's going to be another eight years until Switch.

How long was it between Switch 2 and Switch 1? I think you were right. I think it's eight years. It's been eight years since the original one. OLED release date. I think that was only like three years ago, oh 2021. Side note, I've been getting into Forza lately and Ellis had to explain to me the difference between the games and your whole Super Mario thing going off-road and being slower, that's kind of how it also works

in Forza, in like Horizon worlds. When you're off. Forza is like road. Forza is like. You can like drive off the road and then you're just like going slower. Is there, is there a free roam area? Yeah, like the Horizon world.

So I just learned it's like two days ago, Ellis had to explain this all to me, but there's like a free roam part of the game and when you drive off road, it's just slower. It's also a crazy realistic game. And this is an Italian plumber driving a go-kart. Which makes it better. Which is realistic.

This was the conversation we were having in the car. Forza Motorsport is a fairly realistic game. I would argue Horizon is like one step above Mario Kart, as far as racing goes. Like there may as well be a drift spot. You can be Pokey as a character. I didn't even know that was its name, but the like the tall guys from the desert levels

in Super Mario, or not Super Mario, in Mario 64. You guys ever play two different racing games in the same day with drastically different levels of realism? I don't really like racing games. So no. Anybody, just me? What are the two?

So if you go from like Forza to Need for Speed or back to Forza, like you play on Forza and you get like one tire on the gravel and you're like, you feel it in the controller and you're like, no, I gotta get back on my line. And it's like, it affects your speed and then you do Need for Speed. You literally just drive in a straight line.

It doesn't matter. It just hit the nos on it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's a really funny dichotomy. But anyway, yeah, Switch 2. I'll be testing this. I'll be gaming. I'm on a couple flights soon.

Big flight to Europe. Maybe I'll have a just Switch 2. You're going to Europe? Yeah, the whole thing. Woo! You're going to the whole of Europe? Yes. You're going to Europe?

No, just kidding. But the whole flight. European tour, baby. Hopefully it can last the entire flight. It probably won't though. It probably won't. That's what I'm most nervous about because I use the Switch 2 mostly not in docked mode.

So it's gonna be interesting. I've been playing Majora's Mask on my OLED, which is a Nintendo 64 online thing. And it's fine, it doesn't lag. So if this is not significantly, if the battery life on this is significantly worse, I don't know. Yeah.

There are a lot of characters in Mario Kart world. A lot of them you have to unlock. Yeah, there's eight billion. There are. That's why it's called world. Yeah. Nice. There are a lot of them and a lot of them are just like kind of there.

You can be like the penguin. Yeah. Um, the penguin from what they added the penguin that you raised that like you lose against it in Mario 64 yeah I don't I wasn't born yet you weren't born in 64 it's year-based yeah just like the OS versions that would be wild yeah all right where are we before I just literally start playing this game instead of talking, do you want to talk about the Fed-a-verse?

Oh yeah. Okay, I forgot. Do you? Do I, indeed. Okay. We got a little Fed-a-verse corner for you guys today. It's exciting. If you didn't hear, which you probably didn't, because it's really niche,

Fed-a-forum happened. What? Yeah, Fed-a-forum. The Fedora-kong? No, Fed-a-forum. No, Fed-ee What? Yeah, Feti Forum. No way. The Fedora Congress? No, Feti. No, Fedi. Fetiverse Forum.

So much cheese. It's an online conference that has happened. When we did our Fetiverse episode, which you should go back and watch if you did not watch it back when we released it, we talked a little bit about something called Bridgifed, which was this little project by a guy named Ryan Barrett. And the whole point of Bridgifed was being able to bridge an account from one platform to another where they did not support the same protocol.

So a few months ago, Bridgifed expanded and turned into this project called A New Social, which is sort of this extension of Bridgifed, but they're getting more funding, they're getting more people and community involvement to try to actually be able to, you know, bridge accounts between social media platforms with non native protocols, so that people never have to be tied to any social media platform. Okay, so at Fedi Forum, they come on guys, it's cool. I promise a great name. Feddy Forum, they announced a new feature called Bounce. And the idea of Bounce is this platform that allows you to jump bounce between one network to another. So the demo that they showed off was from basically if you have a Blue Sky account, and you decide you want to make a Mastodon account, and basically not have to just start from scratch,

move all your followers. The problem with this, obviously, is because the dream of Blue Sky or the dream of Activity Pub is when you're moving to a different platform, it uses the same protocol, but because Blue Sky and Mastodon did not use the same protocol,

this bounce feature effectively creates a Mastodon account for you based on your Blue Sky account, but it creates it within this like area in between that feeds information between the two. So when you are, when you have a Blue Sky account, you create the Mastodon account, all of your followers sort of stay on blue sky. They're all following you. But you automatically follow all the same people with bridged accounts on Mastodon.

Right now, they're still very early stages, obviously, and the demos that they're showing off are kind of useful. They're really useful if other people have bridged accounts. If you can get all of your friends to bridge their accounts, then it's amazing, but that's obviously not very possible right now. So it was just a little exciting demo that they showed me that kind of like shows the future of the Fediverse, which I think was cool. And I just wanted to call that out because we're on Team Fediverse over here. I can't even get Ellis on Blue Sky. I am on Blue sky. I'm literally on blue sky. Right now, I'm blue skying right now. No, I'm not on blue sky, I'm at work right now.

That's true. Anyway, that probably didn't make a lot of sense, but I hope that they succeed. It's still the world I wanted to say. I think we should take it to trivia. I think we should bridge to trivia. Oh, another word for a segue is a bridge. Take it to the bridge.

Take it to the bridge. So, yeah. I'm just gonna hold it like this, why not? There are no rules anymore. Feels like a static. Is that an extra bike port on the back of that mixture? Don't worry about it. So.

No, it's not happening, it's not happening. What was the first Super Mario game where Mario would take a nap when the player was idle? Was it A. Super Mario Odyssey? B. Super Mario 64? C. Super Mario World? Or D. Super Mario Kart? Marques, you're welcome for the multiple choice. You have 25% chance.

It's literally exactly 25% chance because I'm gonna throw a dart at a board and it's just gonna hit one of them and maybe you'll get it and then the story would be great. You remember when I was like there's 25% chance and you're like why? I was like because there's four options. Well we'll think about this one. Answers at the end. We'll be right back. Ugh. ["Skyfall 2"] All right, welcome back. I asked all of you to do me a favor because we had a post on our subreddit who someone made an infographic

of just the chronological list of all of the phones they've ever owned, period. And there were like 100 plus comments of people just listing all of their phones. So I asked all of us to list our phones chronologically and we're gonna go through them and I guess rate them or you guys can tell us how stupid we are by the phones that we've had

or ask questions about specific ones. But. When you own it, if it was an absolute banger. Come on. Do you wanna go first? Wait, I have a question before we start, which is what are we gonna do about this guy to my left who literally switches phones every six days.

I asked everybody to pick- Marquez is right there. You are worse than him. I asked everyone to pick the phone that they used the most for that year. So one phone per year max. Yeah. Okay. Pro max.

But yes, because between Adam, Marquez and David, we would be here for three hours if that was the case. Name all the phones. Oh, you're into phones? Oh, you like phones we would be here for three hours. Yeah. If that was the case. Name all the reviews. Oh, you're in the phone? Oh, you like phones? Name all of them. Name every phone. I think I change phones every week for like five years.

So. Yeah. Yeah. I have a feeling, Ellis, and I have the smallest lists. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to start? Sure. I mean, do you want me to start?

I feel like I have kind of the most boring one, too. Ellis was born with an iPhone 13 mini in his hand. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear it. And then I downgraded the 12 of the most boring one. Ellis was born with an iPhone mini in his hand. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear it. And then I downgraded to 12 mini. No, okay. Gentlemen, my first phone is a phone I loved so, so dearly.

I saved up, I think I've told this story before, yeah. My parents did not want me to have a cell phone, so I saved up for like years. And in the beginning of eighth grade, I finally had enough money for the phone and for a year of service. Commit crimes, do it. Don't know if it's a crime, but maybe it was, who knows.

It was a Samsung Intercept. It was specifically the Virgin Mobile version of the Samsung Intercept, which did not support EVDO revision zero, which means it was slower than the Sprint one. It had a, I believe a three megapixel camera, which was perfect because the screen was only 240 by 400 pixels.

And I believe it ran Android 2. I had that for a few years. And then in 10th grade, no, a few years later, I dropped it so many times that the slide out keyboard hinge stopped working. So that's when I switched to the Kyocera Rise, another phone I loved to death, amazing. I was a slide out keyboard person.

Like that was the only thing I needed on my phone, so it was a slide out keyboard. Kyocera Rise had pretty similar specs. I don't think it's even worth going through them, but it did, I think by the time I left that, I was running Android 4. So I was a real trailblazer, played a lot of Pokemon in trigonometry class.

I'm sorry, Mr. True. And then after that, I began my journey on the iPhone, starting with the iPhone 4S. And we all know about these phones, so instead of talking about them, I'm gonna tell you the, back, I was a real music guy. I still am, but like in my teenage years,

it was like my whole personality. And so my iPhone 4S, my first iPhone, had a Flying Lotus case on it with the Art, the, the Orchard album Cosmograma. Oh my goodness. Then I had a iPhone five with an Earl sweatshirt phone case that I loved super dearly. Then I moved to an iPhone eight, which no one in here knows what this is,

but there's a plug in called Antares Autotune. And I took the the picture for that plug-in and then slapped that on a Redbubble phone case, so I had an Auto-Tune phone. That was also the only phone I ever bought refurbished, and it did not last a year before literally bricking itself. It lasted about nine months before it was bricked. And I have not bought a refurbished electronics since then,

which I know is an outdated and bad opinion, but after spending $600 on an iPhone with no warranty, that was a brick. I was like, all right, well that was stupid of me. After that, jumped a few years ahead, got the XS, which I always called the XS because it was in gold. And I had the idea of having a gold phone that had the word XS in it.

It was really funny. Definitely. A lot of reviews did that too. I thought that phone was fantastic and I thought the camera in it was my favorite iPhone camera I've ever had. Which I know it's not as good as my 12 mini's camera. I hate the seven camera on the iPhone.

The iPhone 7 is the best. It was just so good. Then I went to, I think I told the story in the pod so I'll make it really quick. But iPhone XS, loving that thing, was living in Philly. There was a hurricane scheduled to come through. And my friends and I all had the great idea

to drive two hours to a theme park called Dorney Park, which is in Pennsylvania. And we called Dorney Park and we were like, are you guys open? They were like, we're open, but the first lightning strike or thunder, the whole park is closed. And like, you're not getting a refund.

And so we were like, bet, let's try it. So we drove two hours, we get there, the park's still open, it's pouring rain, no thunder, no lightning. We spend the whole day at Amusement Park with literally being the only people there. It was the kind of thing where you'd finish a roller coaster, there'd be no one in line, and you could just be like, again.

But because it was pouring rain all day, every ride was a water ride, regardless of whether water was involved. And so that phone, the iPhone XS, did not survive. Oh really? Did not survive, which was funny, because that's when I went on my Boost Mobile pain arc where it was this like completely brutal few weeks where

I, my bank locked me out of my accounts and needed me to confirm my identity, which you could only do on your phone and I didn't have a phone because it was broken and I couldn't buy a new phone because I didn't have access to my bank accounts. And also Boost Mobile only lets you buy phones with a credit card already associated with your account. So I couldn't start a new card or like ask my parents to help me out and what they're like. So for like a month and a half, like six weeks, I had no money and no phone and was just like trying to figure out how to go.

Eventually I took the SIM card out of the XS and put it back in the Kyocera Rise because 3G towers were still operational at that point. And so I was rocking the Kyocera Rise for like the last like three weeks of that experiment and freaking loved it. It was like my first dumb phone foray. And even though it was running Android 4,

I keep this thing on my keys. That is a, it's a dummy 3.5 millimeter plug so that if you have like a dongle, like a splitter dongle or any kind of dongle, you can just plug it into there and it like stays on your keys and stuff. But the Keysteria Rise was so light that you could just plug the phone's headphone jack

into this and wear the phone on your belt like an accessory. That sounds dangerous. That sounds like you're never gonna find that phone. Then I eventually got the 12, the famous purple 12 mini, which I now split my time between the 12 mini. We see the Kiyosera rise until the iPhone 12 mini.

Well, no, there were lots of phones between those, but then I came back to the Kiyosera rise because I had no money and no phone. Nice. Then. Oh, my gosh. Sorry. The funniest part of this boost mobile thing is like there was a Bank of America who at the time I was banking with and there was a boost mobile store and they were like four blocks from each other in Center City, Philadelphia.

And so while I spent so much time but going to one, they'd be like, you need to figure this stuff out at your bank. Go to the bank and be like, you need to do this on your phone. Go back to the boost mobile store. They'd be like, we can't do anything like without your cards. So one day I went to the boost mobile. Like this whole thing exploded. The boost mobile store is like, you got to come back tomorrow.

I went back to the boost mobile door the next day and it had closed. They had literally shut down that location, which is the most boost mobile thing in the whole world. I know I'm making the story take way too much time anyway This is all to say now. I'm like 75 25 iPhone 25 minimal phone 75 and I'm so happy to be back on a physical keyboard and that's my phone journey Aren't you glad I went you're not gonna stay on the middle phone right I? Doesn't have to be on it now

the reason I'm not gonna stay on the minimal phone is because My really kind nice generous boss Marques Brownlee is actually paying for my separate phone line On that phone which is only is only gonna be another two months So what if you just put your phone line on it. Visible is not a supported carrier for the minimal phone. Otherwise I would, otherwise I would. Or I wouldn't have opened up a Boost mobile line anyway. But yeah, so back on the physical keyboard, back on the dumb phone.

With the little. Back on the Boost. Yeah, back on the. Back on the Boost, baby. Anyway, yes, I feel like this was not very interesting, but thank you. Thank you for listening. And someone, I'm I feel like this was not very interesting, but thank you. Thank you for listening. And someone am just going to do this.

Nice. OK. Yeah, I'll go. OK. I had originally this really it was a knockoff razor because I don't know, the razor was expensive or something. I don't remember. I remember going to the Verizon store and they had the razor and it was really cool but it couldn't afford it so they gave me the like really cheap like knockoff like Samsung one or something and it was but the battery life was amazing it was thick it was thick boy very nice it lasted it lasted about two

weeks I think on a charge yeah and used mini USB. The iPhone came out the famous plug that I make that I was in the audience there okay and I was like it's cool but it was only on AT&T and also it's really expensive or I guess it was singular at the time and I couldn't afford it so I was like well boohoo. Then Android came out and I was like, hmm. And so when the Samsung, the HTC Thunderbolt got announced, which was the first 4G phone in America, I was like, oh my God, there's finally an Android phone on Verizon. Cause I've-

Worst battery life I've ever tested on a phone. Oh my God. Not only, okay. So I had it for about a week and it was amazing. It was sort of a precursor to the like the HTC one M6 M7 M8 M9 stuff. So the build quality was amazing. It was like made of metal. It was super nice. Had a really good screen. But not only was the build quality like horrible, I mean, not build quality, the battery life horrible. It literally burned my hand because I was trying to do Skype

and one other thing at the same time. So it burned my, it was so cool, look how cool it looks. It looks so cool. The old clock widgets on Android are. They're peak, they're just amazing. And it looks so cool, it had front-facing speakers, it had a kickstand built into it, it was dope as hell, but unfortunately it burned my hand

and so I had to return it. So I switched as hell, but unfortunately it burned my hand and so I had to return it. So I switched it out for a Samsung droid charge and the build quality of Samsung droid charge was doo-doo water. Much worse, it was made of plastic, it was flimsy, it was crappy. Yeah the droid charge, it was pretty bad. I don't honestly should have just dealt with the pain. But then the Samsung Galaxy S3 got announced and that was like a big deal in the phone world. Everyone was super, super hyped for that phone. I think it was like one of the first one gigahertz processor phones. I think it was the first one gigahertz processor phone. It's a big deal. I was really excited for that. I pre-ordered it was the first phone I pre-ordered

It's a big deal. I was really excited for that. I pre-ordered it was the first phone I pre-ordered And that was amazing Galaxy s3 that was the first one to introduce the like touch whiz like water droplet sounds when every time you would lock it would go like You know HTC very nice LG G3 was the next phone was the first 1440p phone and it came with all these demo videos on it that was like look at 1440p resolution and it was like all those youtube videos that you watch where it's like sweeping through vistas and it was like bright and it was like show this to your friends and buy more lg stuff and that was great because like that was an awesome lg phone it had uh the volume

rockers were on the back underneath and the power button was right in between It was super cool at a huge screen, so I really liked that Next so Nexus 6p gets announced or sorry Nexus 6 gets announced Shamu Shamu Previously I had wanted to have Nexus phones because they were all so cool and so affordable like the LG like the Nexus 4 Was the sparkly back and it was like $300, it was so awesome. But it wasn't available everywhere. It was not available everywhere, definitely not on Verizon.

Most of the Nexuses were not on Verizon and I was on my family's plan and I could not get off and it sucked, but the Nexus 6 got announced and it came out and it got announced at $650, which was unbelievably expensive at the time. There was all this outrage on Droid Life, the comments section were going crazy, and I was just like, wow, I can't believe they do this.

And then the next day I bought one. And yeah, I really got convinced because Google Fi got announced with the Nexus 6. It was like, now it's called Google Project Fi or Project, oh no, Google Fi Wireless now is what it's called. The name has changed a few times. But because it got announced, I was like, you know what? I'm finally a freshman in college.

I should get off my mom's phone plan. Gonna be totally independent. So I got a Nexus 6. That phone was awesome. It was basically a Moto X 2013, but way bigger because the rumor was that they were gonna work with Huawei on that phone and Huawei pulled out at the last minute and Moto was like, we could just make a bigger Moto X.

And have a dimple on the back. Yeah, and so that's what they did for that. Nexus 6P was the next one. That's when Huawei came back so winging. It was basically the build quality of the HTC Thunderbolt, but even better. Many people revere the Nexus 6P as the nicest designed smartphone ever made,

and I still think that it's really high up there. I would argue the current pixels look the way they do because of the 6P. Yeah, well, sort of, yeah. It had the visor. It had the visor. It had the visor and visor. They had the visor. Sure. That's true. Yeah. It was pretty sweet. And then from there on out, because I was on Project Fi, I was able to live that Google goodness life. They announced the Pixel 1 and I bought that and I bought the Pixel 2 and then I bought the Pixel 3 XL with the Omega bathtub notch. That was pretty sweet. Then I had the Pixel 4 XL with the radar

that would destroy the battery and never work. And then the Pixel 4a came out, and I still hold that I think the Pixel 4a was one of the best smartphones ever made. It was back to like $350. It just had a really, really seamless UI, like the Pixel UI was really maturing. It had Google Assistant was really amazing at that time.

It was really light, it had one camera. It was really small. It was a small phone, smallandroidphone.com. 5.81 inch. Yeah, it was awesome. Rear fingerprint reader. Yeah, I think my review. Accent power button.

Accent the power button. That's what I'm telling ya. Yeah, I think my title for my review of that phone was like a phone so good you won't even have to use it. Because you just use Google Assistant for everything. And then the screen was really good when you did actually use it. Smallandroidphone.com is a real website.

I know. And that's a petition to be small. It's run by Eric Majkowski, which is the Pebble guy. Oh really? Yeah. He actually was really excited about the minimal phone getting the Android layer unlocked because it's a small phone.

Or is the Light Phone 3? Light Phone 3, sorry. Minimal phone is huge. Anyway, Pixel 5, also small, really awesome. It was a little bit cheaper and a little bit, it was made of plastic again, but It was that it was a little bit cheaper and a little bit like it was made of plastic again but it was that cool like they had it was made of metal but also plastic and they were able to get the wireless charging through the metal because they like carved a hole in the metal in the center. That was really awesome. Pixel 6, super exciting because it was the big redesign of the Pixel. They added material U to the Pixel 6.

Super awesome. Then I became depressed and bought an iPhone 14 Pro. And the reason I bought it, if we're going to be honest, is because it was square. And that really won me over but then I went moved to the pixel fold because that was dope and then the iPhone 15 Pro came out and it had USB-C and it was also square so it brought me back I was back on the iPhone 15 Pro Max then the pixel fold 2 came out I was on that

for a while because it was cool, it was pretty cool. And then the iPhone 16 Pro came out and it looked exactly the same as the Pixel. I love how the Pixel needs to add a whole second screen and the iPhone's like USB-C and David's like, damn it, I'm in. Yeah, anyway, that's pretty much where I'm at. I will say I reviewed probably like 200 phones

in between there and I liked a lot of them, didn't like a lot of them, but probably my favorite phone say I reviewed probably like 200 phones in between there and I liked a lot of them didn't like a lot of them But probably my favorite phone that I reviewed in between there was the Oppo Find X 2 Pro Yeah, I want to say that that phone rocked a lot of throwbacks. Yeah, so that's my chronology This is gonna be a long podcast episode mine's not that long. I can go quick mine is mostly like ha ha look He's old. I I looked at yours and I realized where I misremembered the Samsung flip phone thing, but you have one Samsung flip phone in here that when I was in elementary school was like,

if you had that thing, you were the coolest kid. Oh really? I generally, well, my first phone, so 2003, I put timeamps for this. The Audiovox CDM9100. God damn, you are old. This thing was a, I'm too old.

What the, is even that? This phone, I had the worst phone out of all of my friends, but this thing was indestructible. I have a question. It looks like it. When you owned it, were the buttons that color of yellow or is that because of time? No, that was a design choice. I mean, it was also like the backlight

kind of had this like greenish hue to it, greenish yellow hue to it, so you could see it in the dark. I believe it's a greenish yellow dew, if you will. Wait, I might've had this phone. This thing, no, my friends used to be like, oh, this phone sucks, and they would take it and throw it against the wall, and the battery would pop out,

and then I just pop the battery back in, and it was totally fine. RIP, reusable batteries. Yeah, you really had to learn T9 on that thing if you wanted to type at any sort of speed. For the young people that listen to us, T9 is when you have a number pad, and each of them have three letters on them

and you learn how to like touch type words underneath the table. Well, it's a little weird because you could either do ABC, which was like, if the two key has ABC, a is one touch. Yeah. He is two touch, but T nine was like predictive. So you would just type all the letters that were in the word. E9 was like predictive. So you would just type all the letters that were in the word. And then, so if you press, if it was dog,

you would press three, six, what's G, four. And it would either say dog, or you would press the arrow buttons to pick other words that have those amount of letters in it. And you get really fast. I used to T9 it to the table so fast. It's a pro. You really on this phone had to learn about,

it was called like button lock or, cause like if you just stuck this in your pocket, it would just press buttons and call people and you would just leave voicemails to random people when you're like on your bike. So that was a fun time. Then I got my first flip phone, the Samsung SCH-A670, whatever, it's a silver Samsung flip phone.

Had a camera on it. First time I had a camera in 2005. I was Verizon for everything. Which also, you getting your own phone line in high school is very mature. I think I was living with Claire before I got my own phone line. It was a thing that I had to like I had to beg for because I was never around

I think college is when I got my own your own phone line. Yeah, wait your own line Yeah, I was on my family plan with Verizon until college. Oh, you mean your own plan. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, that's not got it. Yeah, then I did get an LG Voyager. This is when I was like, I Like phones. I want this thing sick. Screw the iPhone and all the iPhone lovers. Plus it was only on 18. Oh my God, that's right, because this is 2007.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is, who needs an iPhone? I mean, I was also someone who didn't have an iPod. I had a creative Zen. And so I didn't like, I don't know why I didn't like Apple stuff back then. So I got the Voy why I didn't like Apple stuff back then. So I got the Voyager. It was us versus them.

Back then though, Apple was the nerdy thing. Like, yeah. It wasn't the mainstream thing in 2007. iPhone was the Android of phones. It kind of feels like that. iPhone started, I would say. iPhone was the Android of iPhones. Mac beforehand was like the coder, really nerdy.

I liked it a bit because I did video editing and like that was, but I really liked Windows better. But anyways, got my Voyager until one day I tripped and broke both screens when it was in my pocket. So then I got the Samsung alias. That's the one I was talking about. This phone was, do you remember this phone? Yeah, I do.

It's so cool. For those of you who, if there's not a picture on the screen, you could open it like a flip upways or a fold, because it had this one hinge on the top right corner. So you could either have it like regular keypad on a phone or if it was sideways, then it was like a landscape keyboard. This is the LG Wing of 2008.

No, I was looking for some and there was an LG Wing of 2008 from Samsung. I forget what it was called. Then my first real Android phone, the Droid Eris. Yeah, by the way, this is around when the 3D cameras and 3D screens were like, they were trying to make it a thing and the Evo 3D came out around that time too. Do you remember this?

I think it was Sprint only or something. I don't remember. I remember at my time on Verizon, like if you were doing the Verizon upgrade plan, your two choices were this or the droid, the first droid. And you did this instead. This was cheaper. My mom got this.

I got this. It had a little track ball on it. But again, old Android clock widget. It's so good. It's just nostalgic. That's the HTC Sense widget. This thing was awesome. I remember rooting this and thinking I broke it a hundred different times.

Then I got a Droid 2. Then I started in the Galaxy stuff, S3, S5, this is very clearly, you can tell my plan was an upgrade every two years. So S3, S5, S7, then I started working here. We got some, it wasn't a review unit, it was, I think you did something with Casey and they sent like a gift package that had a Note 8 in it

and you didn't want it so I was like, I'll take it. Favorite phone I've ever had. Note 8 was fire. Note 8, best phone I think that's ever come out. Actually, it wasn't fire because the Note 7 was fire. It was, yes, this was fire though. But I think like the coolest part of this is the home button was like this button kind of under the screen.

So it was just a screen button, but it had a physical press and like a feedback to it. Yeah, fantastic. That was awesome. Then I started my pixel journey, pixel 3 XL, bathtub, pixel 4 XL, Soli, pixel 6, pixel 7, Zenfone 10. And now I am back on the Galaxy train with the Galaxy S24. This is a crazy way to tell the passage of time, because I've known you since your 4XL days. And then I keep scrolling. I'm like, whoa, I've known him for so many phones. I have a question for you, Andrew. Yeah.

Why did you go back to the Galaxy S24? I feel like Samsung is the most boring answer, like boring phone right now, especially the regular one. I don't. Like you get a pixel. I don't even remember why I was like, I kind of miss Samsung and went back to it. I liked the size of it. Um, the price of it is pretty solid and from a Zen phone. So you also gained like an extra camera and wireless charging and gain an extra camera from the smaller pixel, but the new Zen phone has wireless charging.

Yeah, this one did. I wasn't too tall. Didn't they, didn't they add wireless charging to the last one that was cool? That's this one, the 10. Yeah has wireless charging. This one did have wireless charging. It's a thousand feet tall. Didn't they add wireless charging to the last one that was cool? That's this one. The 10. Yeah, the 10. Yeah.

Oh, true. Oh, yeah, oh, sorry. This did have wireless charging. That's why I switched to it. Gotcha. I beat the hell out of that phone. Oh, I also really, the real reason I went from Zen phone to S24

and didn't stay on Zen phone other than it didn't, it was small, is they got boring. I wanted a D brand case that had the MagSafe puck on it. I still think MagSafe is the best accessory on any phone period. So it has to have a case that you could, I mean, the Zen phone 10 doesn't definitely doesn't need a case. I had the sticker on the back.

It's still annoying to like hold with like this magnetic sticker on it. Let's see. But no, I think mine's still on my desk. It, uh, but yeah, mine's kind of a boring except for that audio box CDM 9100. I think you can switch to a Kyocera Rise. I might have to look for one. Also, Andrew, I just want to say in my heart, you'll forever be a Zenfone 10. That's just the phone. I can't, I see that phone and I'm just like, that's Andrew's phone. I like that. Yeah. You may think that you're a Zenfone 7, but you'll always be a Zenfone 10 to me, Andrew.

Yeah. The man of the hour. Uh, yeah. Here's how I did this. I just went year by year since, every year since 2006, I picked what I believe to be the phone that I used the most during that year. Some of these years were hard where I had two or three phones that I used a lot during the year, but I try to just pick the one that I use the most. So presented without nuance every year from 2006 to 2025, my daily driver. 06, Samsung flip phone.

I believe it's called the U340. 2007, Motorola Droid. 2008, the same Motorola Droid. 2008, the same Motorola Droid. 2009, the same Motorola Droid. Overclocked. Yeah, custom ROM, the whole thing. 2010, the Droid X. These are all Verizon phones.

2011, the first and only phone I've ever waited in line for, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. So jealous. 2012. That phone was how I found you on YouTube. Yeah, I did a bunch of videos on that phone. Yeah, that was on Verizon as well. Droid X was sick.

Yeah, Droid X was sick. Droid X was a good one. Droid X was awesome. Then 2011 Galaxy Nexus, so then 2012 Galaxy Note 2. 2013 HTC One M7 Google Play Edition. The smile on your face reading that out loud is like. That one was perfect. That one was actually perfect.

2014, OnePlus One. 2015, Galaxy Note 5. 2016, Nexus 6P, 2017 Google Pixel XL, 2018 OnePlus 6, 2019 OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition. Oh my God, okay the 7T. Also perfect, that phone is also perfect. The 7T also is perfect.

Yeah, 2020 iPhone 12 Pro Max, because I split my Android phones too much. Android, sorry, 2021 Galaxy S21 Ultra. 2022 Pixel 7 Pro. 2023 Zenfone 10. 2024 S24 Ultra. 2025 S25 Ultra. You put the Zenfone 10 on there?

Yeah. I use the Zenfone 9 a lot. I didn't make the cut over the Pixel 7 Pro, but those two Zenfones in a row were heavy for me. Yeah. That is my list. Wow. And do we think that Pixel 10 is gonna be good enough

to dethrone the S25 Ultra? I'm hoping, honestly. Yeah, Pixel 10 Pro or 10 Pro XL, whatever it, and the big one ends up being, that could be interesting. It's supposed to come out in August. Yeah, because there hasn't been a Pixel as my number one on here since Pixel 7 Pro. That's crazy.

And I remember Pixel 3 XL almost made my list, but that I think was the same year as one of those OnePlus phones that I, that was just amazing. I tried to run the regular Pixel 3 because the XL had the Omega notch. The regular Pixel 3 had the worst battery life since like... Yeah. Since like...

The 3XL was good though. Great cameras for its time. The notch was so funny. It was a ridiculous notch. It was so funny. I'm just wondering who like okayed that. It was character. Honestly, you look at phones today and they all have like some visual character thing.

You look at the Pixel 3 XL, it's like some visual character thing you look at the pixel 3xl It's like yep. That's the phone with the notch. Oh my god fine. Yeah, I wish I did more software features that with that notch anyway Yeah, Adam T-Mobile sidekick 3 Motorola droid Samsung Galaxy Nexus Samsung Galaxy s3 LG Nexus 5 Motorola Nexus 6 Shamu Apple iPhone 6s Samsung Galaxy s7 edge Google pixel Google pixel 2 XL, iPhone X, Google Pixel 3, Google Pixel 4A, the perfect phone, Google Pixel 6A, Google Pixel 7, Apple iPhone 12 Pro,

Apple iPhone 15 Pro, Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, Google Pixel 9 Pro. Big, big pixel history for this guy. Wow. Well there you have it. Loves his pixels. I think it's about time for this guy. Yeah. Wow. Well, there you have it. Loves his pixels. I think it's about time for our final trivia break. Trivia.

Trivia, dude. I think we like phones. Nah. Not anymore. Now we just like the phones. I feel like. I feel like. That was me back then.

I'm falling on AI now. Not anymore, bro. I just have a pin on me. I feel like that just made all of us realize five years ago we loved folks. Because everything we said from 2015 to 2020, we were like, oh my god, that was awesome. When you look at the pictures of these things,

they're so cool looking. And now they just look the freaking same. The grin on my face when I got to say HTC One, and then it slowly faded away. The grin on my face when I got to say HTC One, and then it slowly faded away. Like the light left my eyes. I said, S24, S25. Practically the only thing that differentiates these things now is how the frickin' camera looks.

Yeah, yeah, pretty much. That's it. And whether or not it comes in gray or. I gotta say, or like, power ranking. If I were to power ranking like phones that I could go back to in use today, the top two by a head and shoulders are the HTC One M7 Play Edition

and the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition. Those two phones were flawless. No notes, I'm bringing back. Okay, but the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition had an issue where, because they had the curved no the curved sides mm-hmm it would like have ghost touches all the time I just got used to it it was incredible software fast charging great cameras for a OnePlus phone oh I love that and it was good value I'd like 12 gigs of RAM

yeah extra I did have 12 gigs of RAM. Sorry, I interrupted. Okay, trivia time. So, starting in 2007, ending at, I couldn't find a clear end date for this, but it seems like Mii's are slowly getting phased out anyway. But for a while, starting in 2007, Nintendo would occasionally release what they called special Mii's. These were Japanese celebrities and mostly Nintendo executives,

and they were not editable. But there was one other distinguishing visual feature that signaled that your me was a special me. What was that distinguishing feature? Hit it. That the special ones were special, right? Like the ones they distributed. What?

Not the ones you made, the ones they distributed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The celebrity means? Yeah, yes, yes. Yes. Hey. Ungovernable. Ungovernable.

Ungovernable. Yeah. For those, actually even video viewers would know this, it's like 100 degrees in this room right now. It's so hot. I don't think it's that bad. We're getting, tomorrow's gonna be worse. Yeah, there you go. It's like 100 degrees in this room right now. It's so hot. I don't think it's that bad. Wrong. Tomorrow's gonna be worse.

Yeah, there you go. All right, who wants to read their answer first? I put little stars above their head. But it seems like you wrote a pun that I'm pretty stoked for. I wrote Reggie Phil's a me. I kinda wanna give him a point just for that. I'll talk about it with my host.

But yeah, that is wrong. There were no, there were no stars. Oh, I just wrote they sparkle. They do not sparkle. I said there would be some object floating over their head. Unfortunately, that is also wrong. The correct answer is they had gold pants. Very nice. Cool.

And no one else could have gold pants? No, Mii's had gray pants or if a Mii was favorited on your Wii console, it received red pants. All right quick update underscore Marquez with 25. Andrew with 15. David 29. Potentially 30. No if you were losing I would have given it to you but I can't I can't yeah you're just giving David but it could match my age. That would be ridiculous. That'd be cool. You gotta earn that point.

I don't think that would be cool. It would be cool, but still at 29. All right, next question. What was the first Super Mario game where Mario would take a nap when the player was idle? A, Super Mario Odyssey. B, Super Mario 64. C, Super Mario Odyssey B Super Mario 64 C Super Mario World or D

Super Mario carts Marques is just straight-up guessing. I'll hold it and throw the marker point at it There oh my god hurry up the time's almost out Oh my God, hurry up, the time's almost up. What did you just do? I think it hit the niddle. For audio listeners, Marquez drew like a dartboard and he threw a marker at it and picked A, which is wrong.

David, what'd you say? I said B. Andrew, what'd you say? I said 64. Which was B? I don't remember. It was correct either way, two points for both of you Let's go two points for both of us. No two collectively shared amongst both of I get both

I'm 30. Okay, I told you it'd be cool if it might score match my age Wow Cuz I have 30 points. It was a good track. I thought your birthday was like was two months ago Wait, what letter was it? It's still the same age from two months ago. Well, why are you talking? This is old news. You've been 30 for a minute now. I know, but I'm just saying

if my score became the same age as me, if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bike. What letter was the right answer? B, as in boy. I hit B the first time. I know. All right. My plan worked.

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