Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - The Pixel 10 Event: The Good, the Bad, the Jimmy Fallon

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

This week's episode the crew discusses the most recent Google Event. Between a bunch of great phones, a new watch, and an uncomfortable amount of celebrities, there's a lot to talk about. We also take a quick look at Meta's new glasses, Apple's can do blood oxygen again, and someone turned their Apple watch into a phone! Links: Made by Google Event Meta Hypernova Glasses Apple Watch Ultra Case Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, everybody, it's Andy Roddock, host of Serve podcast for your fix on all things tennis. The U.S. Open's coming up and we're covering it on our show. Can someone knock off Algarazan Center? Can Cocoa Gauph win her second U.S. Open title? Can Sviotak win her second Grand Slam title in a row? Can Sabalanka break through and win her Grand Slam in 2025? You can watch our coverage of the U.S. Open on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcast, brought to you in part by Amazon Prime.

I'm Chris Hadfield, astronaut and citizen of planet Earth. Join me on a journey into the systems that power the world. No politics, just real conversations with real people shaping the future of energy. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. But yeah, okay, we should talk about this Google event. Yeah. Or is it a Google event? Okay, look at us.

We are the Google event now. We are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it because that event was pretty brutal in terms of the event. It was a combination of a... a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers, everyone is here, intro cutscene. And your infomercial. Yeah, the QVC.

So let's just talk about the phones first. And then we can talk about what the f***ing hat. Um, so. Yo, what is up? People of the internet. Welcome back to another episode of the Wayfarm podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez.

I'm Andrew. And I'm David. We're back. We're all finally back in the same room. No, we're not. Adam's not here. But we do have Mariah. We do have Mariah.

We're almost all back, and Mariah is here as well. Yeah, we've got a lot to talk about today. The pixel event was, as of the day of recording today. Yes. It's hard to even call it a pixel event, but it happened. And we've got to talk about that. We've got to talk about some other stuff. But first, I just want to show you guys this.

This is the thing that I was going to get for the two weeks that I was not here. Can you bite it? I could. It's kind of heavy, though. I don't want to break my teeth on it. It's a metal. It's a gold medal for Ultimate Frisbee

in the World Games, which was held in Chundu, China. This metal means a lot to me, obviously, but it's also panda-shaped. You can see the ears on it. Oh. I have a couple notes from China. One of them is I've never seen a city

lean more into a single animal than I have, Chundu, and the giant panda. panda statues, panda artwork, panda souvenirs, panda metals, panda, everything. It was very cool. We got to see a giant panda. They mostly sleep, so it wasn't super exciting, but we got to see them. And yeah, a lot more electric cars in China, I also noticed.

And this is one of the things I knew I was going to see. I'll probably end up going back to China at some point to check the stuff out, but a lot of BYD cars. Oh, yeah. A lot of fun. Bring your dollars, build your dreams. Yeah, they all say builds your dreams on the back and you kind of have to know. we called lots of there's no uber it was called dd lots of dds are b yd cars so that was fun i do want to say marquez that we're actually very proud of you well thank you yeah i

miss you guys it was it was a lot of uh we were in this uh athletes village the entire time i guess similar to an olympic village essentially but uh they kind of turned this international hotel complex until like a place where all the athletes from all the sports from all the countries all stay wow and uh there's this huge dining hall where you kind of just show up every day and there's everybody wearing all their warm-ups for whatever sport they play, and you could meet people who play different sports

or try to guess what sport they play. And I learned a lot about how Tug of War works and what corf ball is and fistball and other sports that I didn't know about before watching these. World Games is not the Olympics. World Games is essentially the Olympics for sports that are not yet in or not currently in the Olympics. Olympics to Ocho.

Yeah, it's like just like the Olympics. It's every four years. It's in a new location. Last cycle four years ago was in Birmingham, Alabama. This time it was in Chundu, China. And they have this, yeah, this village. That's crazy, two different. Well, yeah.

I've heard Birmingham is the Chendu of the United States, okay? That's not crazy. That's not a crazy take. But yeah, we, on our quest for this medal, we played five games in five days. We had three pool play games. We played Japan. Then we played Germany then we played China the home country. It was very exciting thousands of people there very loud crowd super cool then we had semi-finals against France

and finals against Canada. Wow two games that went to we call it universe point I'm saying I haven't played this in forever but next point win pretty much the Germany one was crazy because you guys are on defense right which is much harder to to score and then the Canada one you pulled it through you were on that point also universe point hold and universe point break yeah we kind of saw everything yeah the Germany Well, I wasn't on the D-line for the break, but we got a break on a universe against Germany, and we got a clean hold on universe against Canada. And you were on the final point.

Yeah, that's pretty sick. There is a really cool sort of inset topography thing on the middle. Yeah. Do you know what this is supposed to be? I don't know if it's a specific topography. It looks like topography, but I don't know if that's like the country or the town we were in. Chengdu does have a lot of mountains, but I don't know if that's specifically the area we were in. It was very fun.

I will probably be back. Congratulations. Thank you. It will be in the Olympics eventually. And when it is, they'll know who to call. The IOC, the International Olympic Committee, watches all these events. Oh, hopefully they liked what they saw. Do you know why?

So for the audio listeners, inside of the metal opens up and inside the metal, there's a mini metal. Oh, wait. And it's got a magnet on it. No, and it does. Oh, right. And it's got like a little thing that pops out of it when you shake it. Tiny medallion. Oh, you can open it?

You can like have a little thing to put a. Oh, yeah. You can, like, put it on a key chain. Yeah, put on my keys. Oh, your Lubbubu could have its own metal, too. If you want it, yeah. I should say there's two animals that they lean into. It was kind of the pairing of a giant panda and the monkey.

And so the metal is shaped like a panda with the ears. You open it up, and inside there's a tiny metal magnetized to it with the monkey. Do you know why they did that? Just because you can. All right. But yeah, okay, we should talk about this Google event. Yeah. Or is it a Google event?

Okay, look at us. We are the Google event now. We are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it because that event was pretty brutal in terms of the event. It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers, everyone is here, intro cut scene. And an infomercial. Yeah, the QVC.

So let's just talk about the phones first. And then we can talk about what the f*** happened. So there's a bunch of new phones. There's a pixel 10, pixel 10 pro, pixel 10. 10 Pro Max and... Sorry, cheese, yeah, Pixel 10 Pro XL. And the Pixel 10 Pro fold. Yeah.

Lots of really great names, easy names. They're all the same prices as last year. And frankly, there's not that much that's actually different about them. There's a couple interesting things, like the foldable now is IP68 rated. Che2. Che2. In all of these phones. Pixel snap.

I actually think that's my favorite feature. That's probably the biggest thing. There's magnets in all these phones. and so now they can attend and they're strong too they're like actually firm and so they have these accessories like they're called pixel snap there's a charger there's a little dock you can throw it on but you can also throw us on mag safe accessories

and it firmly sits on them the clip you used in the impressions video is like nerve wracking but it was so good flips it with his hand and it just stays out of like ring thing the whole time I asked Google like why did you brand this pixel snap because now is if opo adopts

Che2 is it going to be Apo clip they're going to do that. And Google said that it's just the Chi-Chi standard, but they optimize the magnets and everything, which you can, you can't tell because they have, they have a ring adapter, like one of those ring things. And you put it on the back of the phone and no matter which way you turn it, it stays sturdy. Like, it seems like they have done a lot of optimization to make sure that the magnets are very strong. And like the friction of the, of the little felt in between them. Like all of that, it seemed very well thought out. And it worked in my, you know, hour or two of hands on very well.

Yeah. So I think that might be my favorite future. Yeah. But, yeah, you know, TensorFlow is in there. It's a bit more powerful. We haven't benchmarked it yet, but I don't think it's going to magically be Snapdragon 8 Elite level. That's not the focus. It's still a pixel, and all of its clever software features and AI and conversational

photo editing and all of that, that's what makes the pixel the pixel. So they still look the same. They still have a lot of the same camera hardware. They have similar battery sizes, slightly bigger batteries last year than last year. But in general, slightly brighter displays, too. But they're pretty similar to last year. Yeah, yeah. I mean, TensorFlow, at least it's TSM this time.

So it's supposed to be quite a bit more efficient. Yeah. They said the CPU's 34% faster. There's a 60% faster TPU. So that means it's got way more TensorFlow cores. It's going to be running a lot of the models natively on device. And there's a new Gemini Nano model that runs 2.6 times faster and 2X as efficiently in some use cases, they said. Yeah, which I don't know.

This year, they're clearly leaning into a lot of the AI features. that can happen natively on your phone that can sort of fetch information from other apps within the Google ecosystem. Yeah. Yeah. So if you were hoping for like a hundred watt charging or a brand new 100 megapixel camera

or like the most incredible display of all time or some other crazy raw horsepower stuff, it's not. They did call it the best display ever on the live stream now, which was interesting. It was like according to who. Some choice words, yeah. It was according to who.

According to who. They said for the second year in a row is what they said too. Oh, right. They did say that. They did put the third camera on the base, which I'm very, I'm excited for. Yeah, triple cameras. Lemongrass, baller color. Everyone was wrong about that, as per usual. Do you want to kind of really quickly just go over why then, if you have triple cameras on the 10, why you might go to the pro and pro Excel?

Because it's a little harder to see by, one, if you watch the event because they didn't say anything about it. Or two, if you're just looking hardware-wise, they all, they look exactly the same. Yeah. I mean, this is going to be similar, because I've talked about, in the past, the pixel 10 is going to be the best deal. $7.99, you get the most for your money there. For $200 extra dollars to get the Pixel 10 Pro, what do you get?

And I don't know how much better, but you'll get slightly better triple cameras, right? It's still 5X optical zoom, but they'll let you super resume into 100X on the pro. It was pretty impressive in some of the cases. Yeah, we've seen some decent shots. I've also seen some pretty bad looking shots, but I think there are

some cases where you could be impressed by the photo zoom. The 100X does AI upscaling, to be yes and it sometimes makes on anything beyond 30x it does super res zoom or pro res zoom we're pro res zoom on the pros yeah yeah um it is a slightly higher resolution display it is a slightly brighter display at its peak brightness 3300 nts versus 3,000 which logarithmically is the same yeah you won't notice that yeah um and it is in fact a slightly smaller 100 million hour smaller battery probably to fit those larger cameras yeah so it's a 4,870 million hour versus 4,970 millionth hour on the base.

Aside from that, it's more RAM, 16 gigs of RAM versus 12, and you can get more max storage. It starts at 256 instead of 128. Yeah. And yeah, they all have Chee 2, blah, blah, that's basically what you get for your extra 20s. Excel does get 2.2, which is the 25 watt.

Yes. Well, the pros are both 2.2. Sorry, the XL. Just the Excel. The Excel gets 2.2. Really? Just the XL. And the pros also have better selfie camera.

48 megapixel selfie cameras. So, yeah, like you said, the XL is 1199 and gets even faster charging and obviously the larger battery and larger screen. And that's kind of it. So I think most people will get the most value for their money out of the regular pixel 10, which is great. Then you have the fold, 1799. That's got your IP68. That's got your Pixel Snapchee 2. That's got tensor and 16 gigs of RAM and more storage.

and slightly thinner bezel, so basically the hinge being thinner on the left means it's like a more centered, normal-looking closed screen, and then when it opens, there's still a crease, but it looks fine, open,

8-inch screen, a whole punch cut out. Yeah, normal-looking phone for that. I think it's the same cameras as last year. Maybe it's a new primary camera and then the other two are the same. Yeah, it's a new 48 megapixel

primary camera. There are some small things that are different between the regular one and the pros. The pros are the only ones that get the 8K30 FPS with video boost and the nice side video where you don't get that on the regular one,

which is sort of an interesting thing to leave out. Artificial. Yeah. There's a pro-controls camera mode on the pros, whereas you don't get the pro-controls mode on the regular one, if you're really hardcore about that kind of stuff. You get a better selfie camera on the pros.

So you get the 42 megapixel dual-pd selfie camera, whereas the regular one has 10.5 megapixels. There's zoned UFS storage on the higher storage models of the pros, which I had to look up what this was. Basically, they segment out the storage for storing different types of data so that it is like faster to retrieve because when you're trying to access memory on like a one terabyte hard drive, it can take forever to like go through the hard drive and index everything and then bring it out to you. So they split it up into like different nan segments, I guess. This is only on the 512 and 1 terabyte models.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, technically, 45-watt charging on the XL. But I don't know whether or not that's actually going to charge faster. Famously on the Galaxy S-20, like, Ultra, I think it was. It technically charged at 45 watts, but in practice, it was like a one-minute faster charge. Yeah, the charging number that you see is often basically the peak number that I can achieve, which you only achieve that briefly at the very beginning of the charging curve at a few percent battery, and then it immediately drops. down as it manages thermals and fills up the battery or whatever. So you might only see 45 watts for two seconds. Right. So we don't know, we'll test that as well. The review is in the works, as you can probably imagine.

Yeah, and then LTP basically. LTP, right, versus... So you get 60 to 120 on the regular one, one to 120 on the pro. So there you go. You don't have to watch the event to learn all that about these new phones. The event, though, was... How do I even explain this? It was hosted by Jimmy Fallon.

Fallon. It was on the Google channel. It had about 20 celebrity guests. Probably more in various capacities. Like Landon Norris was one, Yonnas Santa Ticumpo was one, some photographer, Steph Curry, just the list goes on. Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn briefly. Yeah. The Jonas Brothers. If you asked Google why they did it like this, I think their explanation would be we wanted to reach the normie people. Like the tech people already know about these phones. They watched the hands-on impressions video an hour before the event happened.

But for the normal people who will buy a phone based on what Jimmy Fallon says, this was for them. And to that, I would say, I don't think that worked. I don't think that's going to work. I would say name a person you know that's not an R scene. That's like, are you ready to watch the Google event today?

Like, who do you? You know that's like a non-techie person that's watching a tech event. There's a possibility that on Jimmy Fallon's regular late night show, he plays a clip from the Google event that he's hosting. Or like some short-form content they pull out of it and they're like, oh, that's Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon. Yeah.

Lots of Jimmy's. The S2 Jimmy's. Yeah. I do think it's smart of them to bring in a bunch of new audiences like this, though. I would love to see the number on what new audiences it is and how much of the audience is just us who watch it all the time and are like, did you guys say anything about the products here? But like, think about if they got all of these influencers

and sports players and photographers and people to, like, post on their own social media accounts, then at least they're sort of like, the people don't need to watch the event, right? As long as they can clip things and, like, put it in the contract for all of the individual influencers to post about it. I still don't know if that is converting,

like they're hoping to. How much money do you think they spent on just celebrity cameos? Yeah. That was an expensive event. Yeah, for sure. We were joking that they could have spent all that money on 15 minutes of Taylor Swift

and it probably would have had better conversion. And people would watch. If she announced her new album on the pixel event instead of her boyfriend's podcast, it would... Wait. The market share would be through the roof. There was a really funny onion meme that was like, what's his name?

Her boyfriend. Travis Kelsey receives invoice for Taylor Swift's podcast appearance. This was a phone announcement event masquerading as an infomercial, masquerading as an organic celebrities hanging out and being cool and showing you the phone stuff type of thing. It was very, it was unique,

I'll give them that. It was ambitious because it was live. Yeah. And they did, to their credit, pull off some pretty impressive live tech demo. The phone call thing with the Spanish speaking influencer who was talking on the phone. Having

seen that demo in person fail many times, I was watching that intently like this could go horribly like this could go really wrong and it actually went pretty well did while I was checking the mail did they do the live translation are you serious like right when I left the room it went pretty well there was one time

where she said something and then the other end it came out I am a crazy person or something like that did say something weird yeah I don't think that's what she meant to say but every other time it landed it hit a high note at the end it landed and they said like an announcement it'll go on sale in Mexico oh wow congrats and it's like in the AI voice it sounded

kind of like Jimmy so yeah Yeah. It is impressive that they're able to generate an AI voice of you within two seconds of your voice. Yeah, with the intonations and the timing and like speeding up and slowing down. That is very impressive tech demo. It's not exactly, you know, what your voice would sound like, but it's close enough. I feel like that could also be based on the many, many hours of Google Assistant audio you are providing to your phone. Or I guess they claim the phone calls is not recorded, but that doesn't mean they don't have your voice. They said it takes only two seconds, two minutes.

or two seconds of your voice to clone it, is what they say. That is an easy thing for Google to say when they have thousands of hours of your voice. Well, it works on both ends, so the person you're calling doesn't have to have a picture. That is very true, yeah. So it's just doing it live. Actually, to be fair, most people you are calling, probably don't have a pixel. Yeah, right. If I had to give my kudos to anything in this event, I thought the set was fantastic.

The set was really well made. The set. The thing about it, though, is seeing some of our, like, tech journalist friends posting from there, the way they had to watch the event was, like, the set was pushed further, and all the cameras were in front of where Jimmy and the people, yeah. So, like, they didn't even get to feel like they were, the event was to them, it felt like. It was to the cameras. It just felt like this was not for tech journalists at all. I've watched, every time I watch an event like this, I kind of, in my head, try to picture what I think the brief was and, like, how I think it's being produced. And I could see a lot of reading off teleprompters and, like, camera to the side, like,

look at your prompts over here, then read the next prompt over here, and then a little bit of riffing in between, like Jimmy Fallon would go off script once in a while, oh, are you allowed to say Apple? Like a random line here or there where it's just kind of like keeping it on. Tenser! Yeah, I could feel some of that. And I honestly think Google probably thinks it went pretty well. Oh, definitely.

You know, just based on the fact that nothing. nothing derailed, the tech demos worked. Based on how complex getting that many famous people in one room and trying to get them to all say the right lines and nothing disastrally happening. Yeah, nothing like jiffable with like a missed handshake or anything crazy, like that last one like it. Or like when the Gemini demo failed twice on the pixel

and only worked on the Galaxy S-25. Yeah, nothing like that happens. So maybe they're happy about it. They're probably stoked. There are a couple really quick fold updates that I want to mention because they, This year, the fold is almost exactly the same as last year. And so a lot of people are going to wonder if they should ever upgrade to this thing.

And we talked about IP68, which is a big deal. But they also added, well, they added pixel snap to that, which is interesting. And there's all these pixel snap accessories like we talked about. And there's a stand. And they specifically, both in the video and the keynote and also when they came and visited and showed us them, demoed the pixel fold being open and being magnetized to the stand to try to like showcase how strong the magnets were, it did slouch very slightly to the left. I do remember seeing. But that's at least quite interesting in its own right. You know,

and how like weighted the stand is because what David's explaining is when it's open, it's only magnetized to the right side. So now it is like hanging precariously off the side, but the stand is still standing, which obviously takes a lot of precise. You don't want to to stand to be really heavy, but it still has to be able to hold it like that. Right. It was pretty impressive. I didn't see it slouching, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, yeah. They also updated the Mayju Look thing for kids where they have new animations so the kids can like, you know, laugh at the. I want to actually try that because. Yeah, you should try it. It seems like a great idea, but the amount of times I've had to like

try and get Lane or my niece of like yelling and screaming the like words that they love and clapping. Like I can't imagine a silly little fish on the screen. is going to be better than the 20 parents like basically begging the kid to just look at it. I would love to try it because seeing as it's Google

and they had it last year on their phone they had an opportunity to kill this feature or double down on it and they doubled down on it. They added more faces. I think it is a perfect thing to play at like a T-Mobile store and a parent season is like

oh my kid will finally look at the camera every time like that is a great that's going to work perfectly let's pay buy it and then see it maybe. I don't know. I want to try it. If I get a full doll.

Yeah. And then there are a couple more features that are actually taking advantage of the opening screen, which is nice. There's the new camera app, which when you take a photo, it shows the photo you just took on the left,

and it has this dynamic stacking feature where when you take more photos, it kind of like moves the photo in and it stacks them on top of each other, so you can see the whole photo roll, which is nice. Instant shot, I think, is what they're calling. Instant shot.

And then they now say that you can drag and drop images and links from like one app to another by holding and dropping. It didn't work in our demo, but they were confused why I didn't work. So hopefully that book is fixed by the time it launches. That's actually very, very helpful. Yeah. I also really liked that just like how if you have dual apps open and you can slide the

middle slider and like 80% of the screen is one. Yeah, yeah. And you can swap between them really quick and you can flip them. A lot of like really quick intuitive multifunctional like Windows. The reason I've been waiting for the trifold for so long is because I've never really seen the use of the hot dog style foldable, you know, whereas the, I see a ton of Galaxy Z flips on the subway because I think that that is a lot more, it's easier for people to like see and understand. And also it's a square aspect ratio when you do that. So yeah. Yeah, the software

features are really wouldn't make the for sure every year. The pixel. Totally. And there's some interesting stuff in there that might be tops of people's list again. So we will get to that. But of course, before we get there trivia it's been so long since I've heard that music all right guys another event which means another edition of were you paying attention I wish what we'll just have to pretend it was there is it head-to-head I know it's it's supposed to be were you paying attention but that my button broke and we're not going to fix it right now. One of us could do it. Yeah, you want to give it a shot? Were you paying attention? Good enough. All right, guys. Sorry, I got distracted. But actually, no, I need,

I need to complain while we're talking about Google stuff because Google AI overview ruined my life yesterday and the day before. That's awesome. Because I had a flight from hell where I was Did you arrive in heaven eventually? Hell Michigan. Yeah, how'd you know? Where, long story short, I had a layover through Chicago, ORD, O'Hare. And there was weather and O'Hare was shut down. And I was trying to figure out how long O'Hare was going to be shut down for, so to know if I needed to rebook my flight like that moment. And so naturally, I go to Google.com and I Google, is O'Hare shut down?

Or is there a ground stoppage at O'Hare or all the necessary things? And of course, when you Google that, the first thing that comes up is a Google AI overview that will always say, yes, it's shut down. And then you click the link, and it's from some article from 2017. Like, it's completely irrelevant and stupid information, and you can't disable that. Anyway, that's my rant. Let's get back to... Were you?

Oh. Close enough. All right. Nice. After using the A word, what did Google VP Adrian Lofton refer to iPhone users as? Oh, yeah. I got this. I think I remember that.

Were you paying a... Attention. Man. Yeah, I know. One of the rare off-script moments. Apple, can we say that? Surprisingly, when they showed a low-light camera sample, they did show it was directly from the iPhone 16 Pro.

I was surprised about that. Oh, really? Yeah, because usually they just say competitors' leading device. There was someone recording the Jonas Brothers at that party at the end with an iPhone in the background? Epic. Sure they loved that. Yeah. Well, we'll think about that.

And the answers will be at the end, like usually. So we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant. You're building something big. And Square's there for all of it. Giving your customers more ways to order, whether that's in-person with Square kiosk or online.

Instant access to you. your sales, plus the funding you need to go even bigger. And real-time insights so you know what's working, what's not, and what's next. Because when you're doing big things, your tools should to. Visit square.ca to get started. Your business doesn't move in a straight line. Some days bring growth, others bring challenges. But what if you or a partner needs to step away? When the unexpected happens, count on Canada life's flexible life and health insurance to help your business Keep working, even when you can't. Don't let life's challenges stand in the way of your success.

Protect what you've built today. Visit canadalif.com slash business protection to learn more. Canada Life. Insurance, investments, advice. Toronto. There's another great city that starts with a tea. Tampa, Florida. Fly to Tampa on Porter Airlines to see why it's so terrific.

On your way there, relax with free beer, wine, and snacks. free fast-streaming Wi-Fi and no middle seats. You've never flown to Florida like this before, so you'll land in Tampa ready to explore. Visit flyporter.com and actually enjoy economy. All right, welcome back. Let's talk pixel software. The thing that makes the pixel the pixel, there's a couple interesting things that were announced. Some of them are exclusive to the pixel 10. Some of them are just going to be available for everyone, but they're getting to.

getting announced with this phone. So that's great too. The one that's Pixel 10 only, that seems interesting that I think might not forever be Pixel 10 only, is called Magic Q. It's very Google. Google knows everything about you already, right? It knows your calendar events, it knows all the emails

that you get, it knows your flight reservations, it knows your hotel reservations, it knows your lunch reservations at the restaurant because you get a confirmation email for everything. So if you get a text message with someone asking, asking about one of those reservations, you'll get a little magic cue card thing that pops up at the bottom that is just a prompt to answer the question for you without you having to dig back in and find the email.

Kind of like the auto reply is there and you can press it and it can... Yeah, it's an auto reply that's pulling from some other service in your Google account somewhere. It seems to work pretty well. There's a couple instances where it makes perfect sense, like someone asking about a flight info hey when does that flight land oh okay well i're not the answer already because i know the last email you got about that flight says it would land at this time boom here's your answer somebody was surprising to me about it is that in like text messages if someone asks where are we eating or what's your flight info it grabs it and it just puts it in like a regular string so it's just like we're going to cracker barrel

it just says cracker barrel yeah but i i feel like doesn't dress it up i'm surprised that they don't do that plus a Google Maps link or something. Yeah. Actually, that would make sense. You might usually just say the name of the place, but usually when I send someone a location, I send them a Google Maps link. If I'm asking you, like,

where is the reservation we're going to tonight? I would almost definitely want to know where it is. Especially if I don't even remember, yeah. Yeah. The feature demo we tried just was like typing the name of the restaurant. Really? That's all it did? Yes. Oh.

That's two points of failure. Like, it could already grab the wrong email. Like, like I said, if it's grabbing, If I Google is Chicago airport shut down and it's pulling things from six years ago? Yes. You know, who's to say it's not going to pull a reservation from six years ago? And then who's to say, well, pull the wrong Google Maps link to? And then all of a sudden, theoretically, your plans are ruined.

That's theoretically, though, you've seen, you know the restaurant you're going to or like, or like you sort of know your flight number, kind of. There are a couple. But you just don't remember the, like, specifics, right? So you can, like, verify whether or not it's right. I think, like, in terms of a restaurant, it would most likely be like, well, if you're asking for tonight, you're in New York, it's probably going to be the one in New York or the one that's today, you know, like, I'm asking for today.

I asked Gemini yesterday about a today thing. AI overview is a lot weirder because it's using the whole internet where this is all using the stuff like in your calendar email. It's very, it's so much more niche of what it is. I'd be more confused of what if I have two reservations. What if the amount of times you have probably three different flights booked. at some point, and as long as it's not like, if you're just like, what flight are,

when's your flight this week? You might have four different answers for that. Yeah, that's true. Right. Those things get confusing. I wonder what the ordering is. Will it give you options? Because like you said,

you kind of know what it is or what that person might be asking about? There was a screenshot in the event of two different options. Oh, really? One of them had two options and you can pick one. So I'm going to have to test this a little bit. I mean, we tested the couple set up versions they had for us, and obviously they worked because they were set up.

Yeah. But it seems like one of those things that Google can pull off because they know a lot about you and they can just surface that information and it's convenient. It's the type of thing that Apple would like to do with Siri, but they haven't been able to figure out how to do it yet. Yeah. So. Well, and also Apple's so gung-ho about privacy and it's been the whole thing that they kind of set themselves up for failure here. Because Google's always just been like, we use your data to create magical experiences. Whereas Apple's like, we don't touch that at all.

We don't look at it. We don't know what it is. It's just a random string of numbers to us. And it's also like Apple, it's not an Apple email that you're getting. It's a Google email that you're pulling into your mail app for Apple, but Apple doesn't see that information. Well, unless you're on ICloud or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, it's like, it's like, quite one-to-one with, like, what Google can offer because Google has a calendar that you're putting events into. Google has Gmail. Google has all these other things. Yeah, this is definitely Google at its best, like, showcasing that Open AI wishes it could be this. Apple wishes it could be this. Anthropic wishes it could be this, but Google has always been the best positioned to be able to be this agentic, as Rick Oster-level will say, and try to explain to Jimmy Fallon. I will say the calling an airline and it automatically populating, like, all your airline, the information in the phone app is so nice in the phone app. So you're not

like on speakerphone digging in your email, typing United and Google, Gmail search sucks so bad. Yeah. It's one of those extremely specific things that I think I'm going to love that feature. I often and this is so specific because I carry two phones. Like I'll go in and I'll call with one phone and I'll pull up my calendar on the other phone and I'm like

man this would suck if I had to do both these things on one phone. But this is like perfectly designed where it's like okay I can pull up the exact information I need and it's going to show it to me when I need to see it. Yeah. Great. It's great because every time I have to pull up the information to talk to the agent about it. I have to either put it on speakerphone or risk not hearing them speak to me back. So, yeah, it would be very nice to have it. I'm wondering if it does any of this Magic Q stuff and any other apps, because the main two apps that they showed were the messages and the phone app.

Yeah. But I would love to see this in Gmail and other apps like that. Yeah. I think it'd be cool. Yeah. I think that's probably their biggest one. So that's Magic Q coming to PixelTems at first and maybe some other stuff later. Yeah. The other thing that I thought was really interesting was conversational editing. So you can use a text box to edit a photo. Instead of going into the actual tools and hitting edit and going, all right, saturation, oh, let me crop, oh, let me turn brightness up, let me do all these other things.

Or even some of the magic editor stuff, like erase a person in the background, you now have this text box that you can type into or talk to, and you can go, hey, make this photo look better and brighten it up and delete that plastic bag in his hand and it will semantically parse what you said

understand what you said and then take action on the photo using the tools built in and it will do what you said. I tried a bunch of stuff. It did what I asked. I was very impressive. It was very good. You can get kind of carried away and just be like add a hot air balloon in the photo. It'll just do it.

I think that the only thing it doesn't want to do is adjust faces. So kind of the same as magic editor but the fact that it understands what I'm saying and does is really convenient and good. And it can do a lot of local editing, too. Like the demo we had, she had, she said, Turn My Dress Red, and it just did it.

And it was very, very local to her dress. Yeah. Which was why very surprising. And this is, like, great for not people like us, but for normal people who don't know how to use Magic Eraser or don't know how to use all the different, who don't even know that there's an edit button really right there, but they can click that and just the, like,

chat box comes up and they can just say, like, could you zoom in on this a little bit and like get that dog out of the background? Like anyone can do that. And it seems pretty good. One of the people showing us our demo said pretty much every photo they take that they care about at all. They just say make this look better to every photo. Just see what happens.

Yeah. It tends to just like kind of brighten things up and like crop and put your subject in the middle and just generally make it look like a better photo. It's pretty good. Yeah. On top of that, if you want to do that before you have to run it through an AI model, they now have the camera coach feature. Yeah. And this is basically Gemini, it's effectively like Gemini Live basically talking to you about what's going through your viewfinder. Yeah. So if you're taking a photo of a friend or something like that and you're off center, if you're to the right or if you haven't straightened the horizon line, things like that, it will talk to you in real time and be like, turn a little bit to your left, get a little closer to the person, do this and kind of teaches you how to take, I guess, a better photo. Yeah. It was cool to walk through it once.

I hate this one so much. I don't think I would ever use it again. No, you wouldn't because you know what you're doing. But even if I didn't know what I was doing, like I just feel like I'm taking a picture the way I want to take the picture. And if I wanted a coach to help me take a professional picture by that point, I just have someone else take it for me. Yeah, I think the people who don't care about how well framed a picture is

don't care about getting coached to frame it well and just like the memory of the photo rather than the... This is the feature for boomers for sure. It is, but like, it's slow. It takes a while to do it. And, like, I'm just imagining you're at, let's say, like, Disney, and you're now all these parents, their kids are meeting the characters, and each parent is now doing camera coach.

This line is now a 10 hour away because each person's taking 10 minutes to, like, slowly listen to it and adjust and tell the kid to smile and, like, turn it. I don't know. This feels like a flop. The pitch in the event was Alex Cooper saying, like, you no longer have to teach your, like, boyfriend or spouse or whatever how to take the perfect picture of you. Now the camera coach will teach them.

Maybe that's cool. I don't know. Is this something you have to actively turn on? Or is it on by default? Yeah, you have to. There's a little button in the corner. Because, like, I feel like most people wouldn't go out of their way to actively turn it on. Yeah.

But the pixel now already, it'll tell me, you need to. to raise the phone higher. And I didn't ask it to tell me that. Oh, it does that automatically? Yeah. And it does some automatic suggestions. Like if the lens is blurry, too, it'll tell you to clean it off. That's great.

Stuff like that. And it has the level, or you can at least have the leveling thing on. Which I think is great. Some people, but I just don't know what it is. It has a nice vibration motor that vibrates when it hits the level. Yeah. Yeah. And if you still are not good at taking pictures, it has an improved best take mode.

True. Which was a feature from many pixels ago, which basically samples many different moments over the course of before you took the photo and after you took the photo, and then combines different photos into one with all the best aspects of each photo. Yeah, I think they were saying, like, it will either choose the photo that is the best if there is one that just everything works out. Or if it happens to be like, this is the closest one, but we had to pull a face looking from one photo. Like, they'll, it will do that. Yeah, yeah. And let you choose. And still,

I think it'll still have the carousel of all the photos taken and you can. It like highlights what it thinks the best one is, but it lets you choose between all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, ADMI got better. It'll do pets now. Doom pets. That's cool. That's good. Also, apparently it works with more people. Actually, you know,

it's funny. I think ADME is probably best with pets. It takes so long. Remember how many group shots we've tried to do with the dog and a dog is never looking at the camera? Everyone else is looking at the camera, but the dog's never looking at the camera.

But that's different, though, Admi is where you take the photo and then you swap, right? Yeah, but I'm saying, like, I'm going to take this photo with everyone else, and then I'm just going to get the dog. Like, there's no way I can get the dog to look at the camera, so I'm just going to do me, or you take the photo of the dog, and then you... No, I'll take the photo of everyone else, and then I'll have someone else.

The dog takes a photo of you. I guess I'm thinking, like, I have a group shot, and I want the dog in the shot. So I'm going to take the photo of everyone else, And then I'm going to have someone, you know, take the picture with me. So we got all the people, and then I'm just going to do the dog. Yeah. Because the dog is going to be distracted in some way, so I can just focus on getting the dog to look at the camera.

I think they might. I hope they don't know. They're going to have it soon. Because of all these AI features, I do want to note they did not say this in the keynote, but this is the first phone to integrate C2PA content credentials into the phone. If you don't know what that is, we made a video on the studio channel about it, like two years ago with the Lyca M11P. We talked about contact credentials.

What's the five second TLDR? Five second TLDR is that there is a metadata history of every edit that has been made to the image. And you're able to see all the changes that were made. So because all of these AI features are being integrated into these photos, now there is a trail that you can follow back unless someone takes a screenshot and then you're screwed. So updated Pano mode supports the 5X lens. There's a new feature called Take a Mosaic. message and they were talking about we all get phone calls sometimes unfortunately and when you don't answer them and then people leave a voicemail you never you never read the voice mail and this is why

visual voice sorry not read listen to the voicemail this is why visual voicemail even became a thing it's great yeah visual voice was amazing where it transcribes the message now not only will it transcribe it but it also send it to you in a message is that what it was just one more step so I can like treat it like a message and actually get to it instead of being like I wonder what voicemails I have yeah because I don't like to check my voicemail absolutely not um notebook lm is now native on the phone pre-installed app pre-installed app it's another little piece of bloatware for you yeah a little notebook lm yeah that if you don't know what nobody lm is it's it's that google AI app where you can basically feed it a bunch of different sources of information like documents and

stuff and then you can ask it to make you like tests about things and it will create an AI podcast there's a very funny YouTube video where the two AI podcasters just say they took they talk about a document that just says pee-p-poo about 100,000 times and they get really philosophical about it it's very funny huh and that's interesting you bring that up because it's pretty much that way yeah we will like that in the show notes yeah um also pixel journal app they didn't even mention this in the keynote. It's true. What they did mention the keynote is that they're trying to make it as easy as possible to switch over from an iPhone. That's what this is about. I think the only reason they made

this was because I don't actually know anyone who uses the iPhone Journal app, but if you do, I think that they're just trying to make it so that it's as seamless as physically possible. This is kind of the sneaky, low-key reason for a lot of things that happen in the smartphone world where it looks like they're copying each other, but a lot of it is just companies trying to give an equivalent experience on their own device to make it easier for people to switch. So if any one of these things is an ecosystem wall, oh, I would switch,

but I like the journal app and there's no journal app on this other phone. Well, okay, we made a journal app and we have some Googly stuff in it. So now we switch, they just try to offer as many equivalent experiences as they can. And this is a pretty blatant example of that. For sure. Yes. Can we go into Ellis's

tinfoil hat corner for a sec? Of course. We'd love to. What's up, Joe Rogan? Yeah, what's up? My name my name is uh no i'm not going to make that ellis rogan oh oh my god i'm here all week the first trivia point is on the board um no i've see i always thought that the apple journal app was because apple has access to lots of information about you right they have access to where you go and how many steps you took to get there and uh and if you use apple maps they have access to what your favorite modes of transportation are and if you were an apple watch they have access to a bunch

your biometric data. And a lot of that data is like anonymized and it's not really shared cross platform. But one of the things that they did not have access to was what was in your brain because of the way I messages was structured. Like they couldn't really like get into your thoughts and tell how you're feeling and stuff like that. Because of ending and encryption. And so like Apple Journal gave them access to how you're feeling. And I have, you know, I don't use Apple Journal, but I've always suspected that at your health data and your journal data and your location data are sort of blended together to learn more things about you to help make future predictive things that are not deployed yet. Google does look and often sells

all of your stuff. Yeah. And they also, I don't think read your text messages yet. I don't think they do. So this is just a way that they can get you to forfeit how you're, feeling about certain things. I haven't read the Pixel Journal, like, terms of service and their privacy agreement yet, but I'm going to because I suspect this is so that they can sell you stuff. It's like your big sister reading your journal, except a trillion-dollar company instead. They did actually have a line, and I want to go back and make sure I get it right about how they're going to treat this data, because they did make a pretty big point to me about

the privacy of the data in the journal app. That's true. um i you know with apple i don't really know what they would do with that information because they don't still ads so there's that but i do have advertising if you're google and you have all this information it says no data collected on the on the play store i don't know what that means but no data collected it's a crazy line from google yeah but i don't know if zero people use the apple journal app but they still had to make it then maybe they just don't care you know what i mean we we basically finished up with the software on the phone you didn't

make music with Google Recorder. Oh, I forgot about this. We were trying to figure this. They said that a lot of people like to do karaoke with the Google Recorder or at least sing into the Google Recorder. And I think you were talking about the feature parody. Remember how the iPhone did studio quality mics

and they made it so that you could do the studio mic which made it in a different setting and it gave it the reverb and stuff like that. Maybe this is that. But effectively what this is in the Google Recorder app, which, by the way, Google Recorder app is really, really good. It's always been really good. You can now sing into it,

and then you can generate music of different genres that will go along with your song. My problem with that is, is that's not karaoke. You're either singing a song that exists already, and Google's generating different music to it, which makes no sense to me, or you're writing lyrics and singing it in a cadence and like a tone but you haven't made music for it yet and now Google I don't see where this works I have a counterpoint pixel studio app the AI image

generation app but that was also pointless that's what I'm saying oh that's my counterpoint it doesn't need to make sense yeah I just don't really get this one this is I'm with you and this is the tech demo that I was like, I don't get why anyone would do that. I truly have no idea why anyone would do that. Yeah. But you can. You can auto-generate music back to the background. It's also, I think, just a way for Google to show that they have music generation.

That, like, here's another thing that they can do with their AI. Like, they can do video generation with V-O-3. They can do image generation. They can do text generation. And now they can also do music generation. Yeah. I think that's all it is. Generational.

Yeah, you're private. It's like a tech demo. There's also a watch and buds. So, Pixel Watch 4 is, once again, a slight improvement in many dimensions to the pixel watches that came before it. Physically is a slightly longer battery life, slightly faster charging, both of which are great for a smart watch. And the display is slightly bigger with slightly smaller bezels, but also it's even more exaggerated in how domed it is. That's the thing that struck me when I was playing with it. It just looks like a bubble, like more than ever now.

What are those, like, compasses that you have up, like, on top of it? of like the hand compass there's the there's lots of ones that are kind of like bubbled up on top of like a maybe like a Swiss army like an army knife or like one of those like the containers that have like matches like a survival container and has the it looks like that where like the screen is domed also and it is right it's very noticeable the display it's not even just because I think people understand like that the glass is curved like that's been true for a while I mean like the display under the glass is also curved. And so when you picture this like you can look at it from all these angles then it just, it's like a bubble screen.

It almost looks like the surface tension of like we fill a glass all the way up with water and then like it's like bubbling over the top. Like it looks like that. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. So it's a beautiful watch. It is also doing the Material 3 expressive thing. It has a new dock. So the charger is on the side now instead of on the back of the watch.

So you pop it on the side, and then obviously the display lights up, and it charges faster. Which is actually kind of cool, and I'm interested to see what kind of docks they make for this, either first party or third party, because there are a few different things that can do while it's charging. It can either show just the clock. It can show the battery percentage. It can show your next upcoming alarm. It can show the weather. So there's a few different. You can basically use it as a clock that's just on your bedside table.

Yeah. What's it called on the iPhone where it's docked landscape? Oh, standby mode. Standby mode. Yeah. Same mode's awesome. This is that for the watch. And like,

if it's, you know, my nightstand, which is directly in front of my face if I'm laying in a bed, it doesn't need to be that big. A watch is perfect there. And it's a pixel watch, so you probably have to charge it every single night. Apparently the battery is 40 hours

on the big one. I thought that was very fun. It's like a true day and a half now. It was like a little over a day before and now 40 hours is like a real day. What good is a day and a half? What good is a half a day? It just means that the brief time.

It's really just, about fast charging. I really, honestly, I don't actually care how long the battery lasts, if it charges really fast. So if I have like a bit of time, as long as it lasts more than a day and I can like shower and charge it and I can like have a meal and charge it or every once and a while just pop it on the charger and it'll go right back to 100%. I'm happy. Yeah. So I think that's the more important stat to me. Yeah. It says it does zero to 50 in 15 minutes. Which is great. Yeah. That's really fast. Yeah, that's quite fast. Yeah. They now have the raise to talk to Gemini feature so unfortunately there are no Gemini nano models on the watch it does use the big models

in the cloud but it recognizes when you bring it up when you tilt it and bring it up to your face and then it recognizes if you talk to it and ask it a prompt yeah it'll relay that to your phone and that'll relay that to the cloud and that'll relay that back to your phone and they'll relay that back to you it is it it's faster than it sounds um but it is kind of interesting and kind of like works into google's whole like Gemini's everywhere thing because now you can talk to Gemini directly on your phone or directly on your watch or directly on your, I don't know, pixel book or something. It's ever.

I don't know how they're going to identify which Gemini-enabled device you're talking to when you're in a home that has like 500-400-enabled devices. I hate like saying the word in my living room and just hearing my kitchen all the way in the background being like, I can't answer that right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be in the car, too, according to that video.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they now have Gemini. Yeah, they now have Gemini in Android Auto or Google Automotor. Gemini for Google Cars or whatever. Google Play. Animal Motors. Google Drive. Google Drive.

We're going to call it that from now. She didn't even call that. Yeah. Also, something we didn't mention on the phones that is also on the watch, which is quite cool, is SOS satellite communications. The phone now has satellite access, but not just for the SOS stuff. So throwback to the iPhone 14. I think it was iPhone 14.

Where you could like hold it up and have a little UI on the screen. Yeah, which I've used in National Parks and it actually does work quite well. That's good. And Apple's whole like if you do not buy this phone, you're going to die campaign. Now Google has a phone that you will not die if you use, which is cool. And there are certain services like T-Mobile today announced that they have a constant. of star links, that's 650 starlinks, which, by the way, we talked about this in our, in our space race episode about how like all the satellites that are going on it's into space.

Now there is a dedicated T-Mobile constellation just for this, which is, are we going to have new Zodiac signs? Yeah, the T-Mobile. The T-Mobile. What's your sign? I'm T-Mobile. I'm GoogleFi. That's such a Google.

If I think this is an AT&T thing. Wow, that's almost there. Yes. But now the watch can actually communicate with the satellite too. And I would like to see that in action because you have to, obviously, you have to bring your sort of wrist up and target it at a satellite that's in low Earth orbit. I was told that there's a UI for it. There is a UI.

I'm sure it's very clever. I haven't actually seen it in action, but yeah. I'll give that a shot. And then they also added their personal health coach in Fitbit, which again is a parallel to the fitness coach. They added in the Apple Watch that nobody wants. Yeah.

So this is Stephen Curry, though. No, I know. What did he say? The ad was from Steph. Yeah. We're like, Steph's working with Google now and his idea was like,

I've had coaches my whole life. I think everyone should have a coach. So I decided to help you guys bring it to everyone. Rick, how'd you get Steph? Jimmy, we're worth a trillion dollars. It was easy. Too many famous people.

Yeah. Well, before we go, Mariah, you're on a Pixel Watch one. Oh. Are you going to upgrade? No I've considered my options

I've seen the updates and I think I'm good Really? I think I'm good But it's so much faster to charge It's true, it's true And you know The Google Assistant doesn't really work On my existing pixel watch

And I don't know if it'll work on any of the other watches So I'm not super optimistic It's Gemini It's true It's true You are always talking about how much you want Gemini You know me so much You know me so well

Smaller bezels. Yeah. You should try. New charger. Mariah is a good consumer. She doesn't buy new things just because they're new. What, do you want to try it, Alice? None of these things work.

None of these things work. I talked to my friends all day about this. Like, like my friends use cursor, it doesn't work. AI over you doesn't work. I constantly get wrong stuff from all the chat bots. I just, none of them work. Why do they keep doing it? Think of the shareholders, though.

Oh, God, the shareholders. Have you thought of the shareholders? You're right. They might have to sell the 20. Before Jimmy Fallon next year. PixelBuds 2A. Yeah, it's going to say there's one more piece of hardware, and it's new pixel buds, 2A. They have A&C now.

They're very small. They are IP 54, and they're $130. And they have Gemini in them so you can, you know. We were so close. It's your favorite thing. We almost got away from it, Ellis. Yeah, so that's basically all the new hardware and software that was announced scattered throughout this event. It was a real challenge finding.

stuff if you watch the event yeah real challenge yeah but it's in there only they had it all on a table right in front of them where they could have talked about all but instead did it yeah they tried no they had they had a part where it was at the kbc yeah they just barely talked about any of it yeah sort of i'm also personally offended they didn't think the pixel watch segment was worth jimmy fallon's time but they had him just wasn't there but he was wearing a pixel watch for oh yeah they were twinning was the they were all wearing pixel watches yeah was the pixel watch section the like workout section because i have to give credit to the Google guy who had to do a bunch of

kettlebell swings why he was presenting. Yeah. He did great. I tweeted, if everyone's famous, is anyone famous? Because I didn't recognize almost any of those people. I recognized like a couple. Some of them were like very famous and in the second half were like

they're like finger snap famous, you know? Oh, I see the on my reels. The guy who scores all those three pointers in the NBA. The guy that says things on the Yeah, it's like Kevin Hartford, but it's like, the YouTuber, they said YouTube Megastar, and I looked around and nobody in the room knew who it was, but it was a Spanish-speaking YouTuber with 27 million subscribers. Wow, so cool. The Peloton instructor, like, got a big standing ovation because I'm sure people who use Peloton were like, oh, that's the guy.

But I don't use Belton, so I'd, yeah. I was like, who's the, yeah. Anyway, so yeah, that's what happened. It was a lot. Yeah, you can pre-order it now if you want, and then if you don't, you don't have to. Yeah, you can watch our hands-on impressions video. That went live this week. Check that out.

Full review coming on the good stuff, of course. So get subscribed if you want to watch that. Well, there's a couple other headlines of things that did happen. Should we get those after the break? Let's do that after the break. Should we hit one more trivia extravaganza break? Yeah, yeah, we'll do a trivia. But don't the extravaganza break.

That's later this month. Of course. Yes. We're getting the trivia. That's great. Squaked so loud. Well, I'm glad we all made it to the Pixel Watch event this year. And so you all know I'm an avid user of the Pixel Watch.

I wear it almost every day except for the days that it matters because I forgot today. And my question for you is, how many times have I mentioned the Pixel Watch in our company Slack? how many times how many times and this is price is right rules closest without going over so save your save your thoughts for later did you have to use the term pixel watch i keyword searched exactly pixel watch with only me okay so images of it wouldn't have come up but any text message with pixel watch would have come up okay this is something that only but if you use the new slack AI. It'll automatically decipher all your pictures.

The new multimodal nonsense burger. Jesus Christ. Well, we'll think about the answer. We'll be right back. Goodbye. T.D. Bank knows that running a small business. T.D. Bank knows that running a small business

a journey, from startup to growing and managing your business. That's why they have a dedicated small business advice hub on their website to provide tips and insights on business banking to entrepreneurs. No matter the stage of business you're in, visit td.com slash small business advice to find out more or to match with a TD small business banking account manager. Hey, this is Peter Kafka. I'm the host of channels, a show about the big biggest ideas in tech and media and how those things collide. And today we're talking about AI, which is promising and maybe terrifying. And if you happen to be in a very select group of engineers that Mark Zuckerberg wants to hire, it's incredibly lucrative. Which is why I had the

New York Times, Mike Isaac, explain what's going on with the great AI pay race. I'm talking to executives across the industry who are pissed off at Mark Zuckerberg because he has dumped the entire market for this stuff, right? And like, this is. is something that's painful for Open AI, I think, because they can't shell out a quarter of a billion dollars for one dude. That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. All right, so here's the deal. Take a Steelers captain who's been bleeding black and gold and playing for the Steelers for over a

decade. That's me, Cam Hayward. Add in football minds who live and breathe this game, and you get not just football with Cam Hayward. A weekly podcast where we break down the sport we all live for. We talk about what's really happening in the league. Sit down with players you know and respect and shine a line on the moment that don't make the highlight reels.

Whether it's the season predictions, sharing what's really like in the locker room, or diving into the real stories behind the headline. We've got it all. This podcast is about having fun and giving fans an inside look at what makes football incredible. Catch not just football with Cam Hayward on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

Like, subscribe, follow, all that good stuff. Let's get after it. All right, welcome back. We're going to talk about something that's not specifically Google-related, but maybe tangentially Google-related in a very interesting way, according to Rick Osterlo on the stream today. Mm-hmm. If you got that. Meta is reportedly going to launch their Hypernova AR glasses this year for about $800, potentially

next month, according to Mark German on Bloomberg. It was originally reported that these would be over $1,000, but apparently Meta is willing to take a loss to try to soup up. demand the difference between 800 and a thousand i'm not really sure if people are going to be willing to buy that in the first place well once there's a bunch more competitors in the market it might look impressive i i for one am very excited to test all these glasses yeah these interesting potentially useful glasses like google regoscelo literally said in the event uh we are going to be launching our ar glasses with google soon yeah so we know they're working on those and they're coming

soon i got a demo a while ago i thought they're amazing and i'm i just want to use them in the real world so yeah 800 bucks that's the first price tag we're thinking we might see irl yeah so sure yeah apparently google glass was like 1600 how much was that the google glass it was 1,000 or was it 14 i think it was a thousand for the explorer edition 500 oh 1500 yeah what what year was that that was 2012 800 seems kind of impressive by that standard Yeah. According to Mark German, it says there is a small screen for mini apps and alerts on the right lens, and they'll be controlled by the Orion wrist accessory that we tried last year. Okay. So this is not totally like the Orion Glass is where we saw lots of different things in like a very fully scoped. And on this is like a HUD. It's almost like an accessory to your smartphone in a way. Yeah. Like a smart watch.

One way that Google has helped to understand like the different price tiers at this. things could come in is single lens versus both lenses. Obviously, having a display in one lens costs much less. So it doesn't look 3D or track over your environment, but you kind of can see things in a little HUD. That's the single lens experience. And then the dual lens experience potentially lets it be tracked over your real world and have more depth and look like better fidelity, which is cool, but it's twice as expensive. So this is like a lower priced version, 800 bucks and then that kind of feels like a more expensive dual lens version might be in the 2000 to $3,000 range right yeah wondering what time next month it apparently launches too

because we're getting next month September it is okay it's a it's a big the big month I wouldn't be surprised if meta was like yeah we can fight the iPhone that's a say well you kind of just want to get your stuff on the shelf before the holiday season no matter what The iPhone's going to do it every year anyway, but also here we have the Google event, and there's going to be, you know, Samsung stuff coming out. It's just the time of year to do stuff. Yeah, yeah, true. Speaking of the time of year to do stuff, if you remember from an episode many, many moons ago,

Apple was sued by Massimo, a health tech company for the light-based blood oxygen sensor in the Apple Watch. They had to remove it from the watches, and they were not able to sell the Apple Watch for a short period of time. So now they figured out a way around this. But now, and this is very funny, they the way that they figured out how to get around the patent was they will collect the data using the sensor on the watch but they will not calculate the data on the watch they will send the data to your phone so and it will be calculated on your phone I don't know if you can see that but if you open the blood oxygen app now on the phone it just goes on the watch now it just goes oh you can find the stuff on your phone yeah so so now I guess the way they get around the patent of a device that reads your blood oxygen is it takes the data, sends it to your phone, and your phone reads the blood oxygen, which is certainly a way around it and something that I'm surprised that it took Apple this long to do.

Yeah. Geniuses. I mean, honestly, it probably took them that long because they probably really didn't want to do it. I thought that they were going to try to figure out, like, a different way to vaguely calculate your blood oxygen. So this is a better solution for them, for sure. Well, speaking of an Apple Watch. Wow, we're like straight in, right straight through these things.

It's like, real quick, did you see this on, someone posted this to our subreddit, but it was a post on the subreddit industrial design. Someone made a post that says, meet my design to try and get me off my smartphone and essentially made a fully metal case for his Apple Watch Ultra to be, I guess it's, I guess it's a LTE Apple Watch Ultra where he's just using this completely independent of a phone and created an entire case. It's super brutalist. So, like, very industrial. Yeah. And just, like, milled... I forget what he said. He's using...

He's using aluminum? Yes. He said he wanted to use titanium, but it would have been a lot more expensive. Yes. He also did a stainless steel version, which was too heavy. But it's essentially kind of like an iPod Nano. It's like a very small phone size, maybe two and a half times the height of an Apple Watch Ultra and just about as thick.

Milled out a spot so you can still use the crown. and the buttons on the side, and it has a little, like, lanyard hole for it and stuff. It's pretty cool. This is not too dissimilar to recently Allison Johnson on the Verge did a article about can I just use an LTE powered smartwatch

instead of my phone for an entire week. Instead of your phone. Yeah. And she just used it on her wrist the whole time. Yeah, yeah. And it was difficult, but it was doable. Probably relying her voice a lot, I guess. Yeah, I mean, the keyboard is not terrible on the watch.

I hate poke-type. typing on it. Swipe typing is okay sometimes, but okay. Yeah. Ironically, this attachment that he put it in looks very, very similar to this bang and Olfson speaker from the 80s. Just hyper-brutalist like milled metal. Yeah. So, yeah. He did say I think he's going to make a hundred of them. Yeah. To start. For sale. Yeah. I kind of want to try this. We'll link it in the show notes if anyone wants to see it. But I mean, we're pretty bad at describing things. There's I'm not enough to describe here. It's a piece of metal.

It's a metal block. They put an watch inside in a metal block. Trivia! Data is there food. We all loved that pixel event. And at one point, Jimmy Fallon freaked out because Google vice president of marketing, whose name I've conveniently forgotten and need to look up, Adrian Lofton. Thank you for highlighting that for me, Mariah.

Adrienne Lofton used the A word. But after that, she described iPhone users as what? Sheep. Yeah, sheep. I think I remember. what's everyone doing this weekend going to the pool I think Marcus is probably gonna go to sleep you have a double practice you have a double practice man this man does not rest all right let's flip these boards oh my god we

all put the same thing and it is at one two three eye friends that would have been a great buzzer have any of you guys ever said that authentically no no neither Have you ever said it agentically? Every day. Thousands of times a day. All right, Mariah. So the question to refresh your memory was, how many times have I mentioned the phrase pixel watch in our company Slack?

Price is right. Closest without going over. A number popped into my head when you first said it and I'm ready. Did you guys already write it down? Yeah. So you didn't need any time at all. Yeah. I've got to sit through this.

Price is right. It's just kind of a guess, right? Yeah. Yeah. Unless you, unless you have slack in your brain right now. Based on pure vibes. Pixel watch. Vives.

I'm searching right now. I'm indexing. Hold on. All right. Let's see it. Oh, my goodness. We got a spread here. I can't read David's.

13? Yeah. Okay. That's, yeah. No. Well, okay. But close is that going over? 27.

27. Can't be more than that. What does Marquez have? Four. Four. What was it? I think Andrew's the closest. Without over either.

Yeah. Let's go. What do you, do you have a second guess? How many times I've said it? There's no way. You said it that many times. I said it many times. And you post a lot of like when you did the stairs in Pittsburgh, you posted the like how many

crazy steps you took that day. That should count, but I don't think it's just pixel watch in it. But did you use the phrase pixel watch? in that post. Wait, hold on. She has the Pixel Watch one. So this is three years of Pixel Watch. It's mostly when I pulled it up just pixel watch and then profanity after it.

But the correct answer was actually 45. A little, it's a lot. It's a lot. Smokes. In honor of this being the first episode, excuse me, the first trivia question in this season of Wayform trivia. Wait, is it really? Yeah. Wait, but Superhead trivia didn't count for anything.

Oh, it's been said 174 total times in Slack. Are we Team Pixel? Give it from Google. Right, hit it. Give it from Google. Can we do a third trivia question? Or are we just going to deprive? Yeah, send it.

Send it. When I don't know what to do a trivia question about, which was me until about five minutes before we started taping this episode. Oh, I do Old Faithful, which is shellfish. And we also have Mariah on the podcast, which is begging for a crawfish question. And I'm kind of still on my New Orleans food game. And so I wrote a question that incorporates all three of these things. Incredible.

What? Gumbalai. New Orleans. Gumbo. Is that an acceptable answer to this question? Jambalaya. Jumbalaya is not. Gumbbo.

but is gumbo gumbo may be an acceptable answer to this question why did you tell us what New Orleans staple food typically features both crayfish and rice that's right

jumbo I mean a gumbo jumbo I will not accept but that usually sometimes has well you didn't know the answer before you asked I'm realizing how many acceptable answers there were in here like gumbo probably works

I should have added that you have to start with blonde roo but actually that disqualifies Jumbalaya but lets gumbo still sneak by all right I'm no longer accepting gumbo because that was there already thrown out there wait so what was the question

it was namely New Orleans food that features both crayfish and rice and I'm adding starts with a blonde roo a blonde roo and I'm not Jambalaya doesn't a blonde roo all right flip them wait red

beans and rice with profit shit no next she get points for that I don't have anything does I say kangaroo yeah sweet no and Marquez has nothing the correct answer was a two fe you said a blonde rue a two fe thank you for playing another episode of Ellis's New Orleans kitchen thank you for watching the time of the way from podcast it was produced by Ellis Rovin and Mariah Zank we are part of the Vox media podcast network and our intro outro music was produced by vain still so bingo