Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - This Sony Camera Has a Boost Button?

Episode Date: November 10, 2023

This week, David is taking a well-earned vacation so Marques and Andrew talk about a bunch of the latest news from the week! They start it off with Marques giving his final thoughts on the new MacBook Pro since he wasn't here last week before getting into some EV talk. After that, they talk about some new Pixel Watch 3 rumors and Spotify adding audiobooks to premium subscribers before wrapping it all up with some David-themed trivia. Hope you enjoy! Links: MacBook Pro review: https://bit.ly/mkbhdmacbookproreview Decoder episode: https://bit.ly/decoderObama David Studio Short: https://youtube.com/shorts/zjTxDrRNowg?si=VQNi7YA1qxrh7L_2 Breaking Records in Reverse: https://bit.ly/reverserecord Ram 1500: https://bit.ly/ram1500EV Spotify Audiobooks: https://bit.ly/4675NJk Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Instagram/Threads/Twitter: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Book with your local travel advisor or at... us. We've been here since last year's sale. Hey, get away from my fries. Oh yeah, book with your local travel advisor or at... Hey, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. And I'm Andrew. And so I'm back. David's out this time. Yes, we're ring around the rosier. Well, that just means we'll just have to... It just keeps... We're your hosts. I'm Marques. And I'm Andrew. And so I'm back. David's out this time. Yes, we're ring around the rosier.

Well, that just means we'll just have to- It just keeps- But we got a whole bunch to talk about. We've got some Final Cut Pro updates, some new- Oh, a new RAM pickup. I didn't even know about that. That's on the list. It's an interesting twist on its electrification also. Okay, I'm interested.

We also want to talk about a new Sony camera that has a literal boost button and makes the craziest sound effects because of this boost button. You'll see what we mean. But first of all, I just want to say, if you didn't hear at the end of the last week's episode where I chimed in on FaceTime, I do want to issue an apology, a correction, for two weeks ago now at this point

when I mentioned that I didn't think the Nissan GT-R was a track car, I was wrong. Whoops. Very wrong. It's clearly, I was well educated on the history of the Nissan GT-R and how it was actually a really impressive track car. It set production records at the Nürburgring. It has this whole rich history of many different versions of the GT-R

that were awesome on a track. So my perception of the GT- that were also on a track so my perception of the gtr was totally wrong at the time so if you went off into your life after listening to that episode thinking that the gtr was not a track car i'm here at the beginning here to tell you people will be very mad at you for thinking that so now you know the gtr nice little track heritage well played nissan uh also want to shout out real quick, the Decoder podcast, Nilay had on President Obama,

and he had a lot to say about AI. They talked about AI, AI regulation, the new tech waves coming up. They're sort of like the wave of social media and then the wave of AI being some of the most disruptive technologies ever. And really, really insightful questions and answers. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, I think Nilay did a good job at asking a bunch of questions and referencing like you said um regulations based

on social media and how it didn't really do very well so how do they adapt to make sure that obviously former president obama isn't the one in there doing stuff like that but he's working towards different things and still has organizations moving forward with it um it was really really good last week david and I briefly just mentioned the bill that got passed or the executive order that got passed about AI, but it was very vague because we didn't know much. And if you want way more information about that

and AI regulations in general, that Decoder episode is great. Yeah, it has a lot of well-fleshed out thoughts that I have not even been able to like fully put into words yet. And just listening to him like sit through and think through them in real time is great. So we'll link it below. One other thing, remember a few weeks ago, we were talking about, would you take a driverless taxi? Yeah. Well, David did. He's in San Francisco right now. And he said he would, right?

Yeah. Okay. He made a studio short on it. So if you want to see his experience, you know, maybe he made it out alive maybe he didn't you'll never believe what happened he's not here that's why he's not here but it's on the studio channel if you want to go see it very nice very nice okay we did get some new macs so we should talk about the new apple announcement and the max that we got out of it i mean i'm sure you guys talked about a lot of that stuff. I just kind of have now, we have them in-house, and we want to sort of give a little bit more of my reactions to it, specifically M3, M3 Pro, M3 Mac stuff.

We have it in person now, the matte black, sorry, space black MacBook Pro. And it's gray, is basically what I wanted to say. It's gray. I canceled my order. Really? I canceled my order. I had ordered a maxed out 16-inch M3 Max space black MacBook Pro. And then we got our review unit here. I was flexing because it's such a Chad computer. It is a serious computer. I had

$7,000 committed ready to go on this computer. We got a review unit, which is also a maxed out matte black 16 inch space black MacBook Pro. And don't get me wrong, it's an incredible computer, very impressive, very capable, nice GPU improvements. By the time this podcast episode is out, hopefully the full review is also live and you can see everything i think about it but basically the two new things with the computer are the new chip and the new color and i was thinking the new chip by itself might not really be enough of a reason for me to upgrade and the new color by itself super cool but not really enough of a reason for you to upgrade but maybe combined they will add up to a computer that i really want i like how the performance and color are the things that might combine together yeah

it's the only things no you're right you're right so i i stacked those on top of each other i was like all right new color new performance this will be worth the upgrade for me and then we got it in hand and the performance it's yeah it's better but in in a lot of the same reasons we've been talking about before, like the quantum leap was from the Intel MacBook Pros to the Apple Silicon ones, this is a small bump from the M2 family and a decent bump from the M1 family. Okay, yeah, you're using an M1 currently, right? This right here is my M1 Max MacBook Pro. I can't believe there's a day that I'm working with you

and you are two generations behind on something with computing power. And it's totally fine. And it's a really good computer. Again, because I edit most stuff on the desktop. And when I do take a video on the go, like when I edited the impressions video on this laptop, it handled it super well.

So I don't need the upgrade. If I was doing like full-on projects, maybe I'd think about it. But the other thing is the color is not that different either. It's just enough darker gray that I noticed that it's not space gray, but it's definitely not black.

Like your laptop is black. Do you want this one? That one has a lot more fingerprints on it. And I will give Apple credit. I think they realized like they couldn't get any darker than has a lot more fingerprints on it and i will give apple credit i think they realized like they couldn't get any darker than that without starting to take on remember midnight midnight was just an remember jet black the iphone yeah iphone 7 i think it was had a jet black which is glossy pitch black that thing looked amazing out the box and then immediately got covered i would argue not even amazing out the box amazing as the box and then immediately got covered. I would argue not even amazing out the box. Amazing as the box has like a quarter of an inch open and then the minute it's open.

Yeah. So I think I realized that stacking the new performance and the new camera still wasn't enough to justify that upgrade for me. So I canceled it. Wow. There you have it. Awesome. You heard it here first.

So it sucks. No. I mean, I'm sure someone would love to write the headline like MKBHD cancels an order. It's just I have a great laptop here. I just wrote that. The article's out already. No, I think it was good. So I'm going to keep using this one.

It's been a great laptop for me. My battery life maybe. I think people were asking for like my long-term review of this laptop. So far, it's like the only thing that's maybe dipped a little bit is battery life. And I think I expected that out of M1 Max. Other than that, it's been great. Yeah, I think David and I were trying to debate on if we thought you would upgrade. And I think both of us thought you would do the double, the jump because you skipped one already.

I would have agreed with you as I placed the order. Because I did place the order. I did place the order i did place the order but i it did not ship and i canceled it i mean i think that's so many people listening right now if marquez is still using m1 macro pro it's probably it's a real shame you can't really get them anymore right you have to get like a refurbished version yeah that doesn't mean go buy the m1 max right now uh because it might not be priced correctly. I haven't even looked up how much it would cost. I don't think you can get it.

I was talking to a friend the other day about that and he specifically wanted a MacBook Pro and I was trying to convince him to get an Air and I was like, well, maybe you can find an M1 MacBook Pro somewhere, but we could only find some refurbished versions on Best Buy. We didn't look that long and that hard, but I could not find one.

I don't know that the price difference going down to the M1 would be that great. I feel like these hold their value pretty well. So a refurbished M1 is probably almost as expensive as the M3. So I would just get the M2 or the M3 and that's fine if I didn't have this already. But yeah, that's where I'm at. Wow. All right. A couple Final Cut Pro updates.

Yeah, I had this in here because you posted it. At first, I read it as just iPad Final Cut stuff, but it looks like it's for Mac and for iPad. But you were excited. Mariah's excited. Adam's excited. I'm just excited. I don't use Final Cut,

so I'm interested what the new things are. I was excited when anything got improved with Final Cut for the iPad because it's Final Cut for the iPad. That's my... I was hoping they would do more, but it wasn't actually. So that keeps being my question is like, we've we wanted final cut for ipad for so long it came out

i don't know if anyone in the studio really used it maybe tried it for a very short amount of time um yeah we keep seeing that adam said he wants to try and uh edit an episode of the podcast on the ipad but is this another update that's gonna happen and i'm just not gonna hear and the next time it comes out you guys post in slack and. And then I'm like, oh, cool. Are we going to do anything? No, it's like it added some useful new features, better timeline tools, and that's great. But I still use so many plugins that I can't really do a full edit on the iPad because it doesn't support the plugin. Have you done a autofocus edit on the ipad because it doesn't support the plugin have you done a autofocus edit on the ipad no that would work though that would make that would that would be

a cool video but an autofocus edit is actually so simple i don't even need final cut like i could do it in imovie weird flex so it's like final cut is like it's like a weird in between okay yeah i mean i'm sure it would work great. Yeah, that'd be cool. But in the new updates, was there any like one thing for Mac or for iPad that you were specifically excited about? You literally said, yo, when it came out. Because I said, yo, to the headline

and I saw that there was an update for Final Cut for iPad. So I was very excited about the prospect of a powerful new update, which is like how they phrased it. And then i opened it and that that energy was not matched okay so before the slack message you needed the like twitter thing that's like are you sure you don't want to read this article before you post this quote tweeted that just been like yo i would have been very disappointed okay yeah it was it was a

pretty minor update that's funny um all right next in here i have the ram 1500 i have it in quotes ev um you said you haven't heard about it it's it's really interesting i think whoa whoa whoa whoa we're not going to talk about 32-bit float point recording coming to logic pro so the new ram ev exactly the reaction america needs um okay so the new this new pickup truck it is not a full blown ev it is essentially a do you remember like well the chevy volt did this previously but also i'm pretty sure the karma rivero did something where it has a battery pack it has electric motors this has 145 miles of electric range that you can completely use but also has a battery pack it has electric motors this has 145 miles of electric range that you can completely use but also has a gas tank and then a 3.6 liter v6 engine that can use the gas to then

send power generation back into the electric system of the truck and then with both of them together fully you can get 690 miles of range so it's a hybrid it's a hybrid with all the benefits of an ev because you're using ev motors so you have like the zero to 60 you've got better torque i mean better instant i mean all right so i guess the question is are the like with any hybrid the question is are the motors powerful enough to like really be all the benefits of an ev like the what do you mean like the prius is this exact no no but this is different because um this is the drivetrain is only electric oh it does not connect the yeah that's what like the karma rivero i'm almost positive it's really hard to find information on the karma rivero because now karma is a new

company that's a little different and there's not a ton of information on the older one, but that was a battery with electric motors, and there was also a combustion engine, but it was not sending power to the wheels, I believe. Maybe not the Karma. That's what this does. It's essentially continuing the charging of the batteries and letting you use electricity. So it's an electric car that also has a gas generator inside

that you can use to fill the battery it has an engine that sends generation power into the electric drivetrain so i think it's cool because in the pickup truck world specifically i think there's first of all like when the volt did it only had 50 miles of EV range. This has 145 miles of EV range that you can do just plugging it in, which should be for most people plenty for your everyday commute. But when you have a truck and you're towing and you're probably going to lose quite a bit of that range in just pure electricity, having the backup tank of 690 miles, which is probably less towing a high payload

i think the ability to if once a month you're towing something maybe like a boat far away to a lake or something yeah i think it sounds like an interesting in between that's fascinating it's a fascinating solution yeah i think when you like ask people what they think of evs i think a lot of people's most question is like so what happens when you run out of electricity or what happens what like how there's no gas tank what do you mean there's no gas tank so this is kind of the like it's almost the thing that they would describe without knowing that they're describing it they're like what if i could just like have a backup gas gas yeah and that would replenish my battery yeah and i think for a pickup truck it

makes the most sense in here because those are the things that maybe do take them on longer than 145 mile trips or like i said when you're towing or have a high payload you start losing range pretty quickly um so having that to be able to just like complete those longer trips if you're still somebody who's towing a huge payload all of the time and we're neato towing capacity higher than this i think it's 14 000 pounds um nice a gas is still going to be your better option yeah but this feels like a better in between now for i want to pick up truck for some reason as my daily driver which is way too big in my opinion but anyways if you still want that but then maybe you're towing your heavy boat somewhere every once in a while like yeah we've seen the the the nocturne range that a lot of evs get when towing like zach zach jerry rig

everything's video is a great example he did a rivian tow test and basically towing crushes your battery you're using way more torque way more constant power so this pickup truck is a pretty ideal type of vehicle to get this sort of treatment where like a normal suv might not actually benefit that much yeah and most likely 90 of the time you're only using the ev battery here that you can plug in every night wake up to a whole 145 miles of range and then on the on the weekend it has the gas the gas is just sitting there in case something happens and then you're good to go knock yourself out i think it's pretty cool question sure so basically it's just it just has a generator to like replenish the battery right that's the best i think that's

the correct way to think i think that's the easiest way to put it i'm sure there's something more complicated in there but like but like so if the power in my house goes out can i use it as a generator i don't know if you're saying so like like kind of how the f-150 lightning you could just i don't know into it and i don't know if it has the ability to push the power out yeah it would be really cool to be able to have your whatever kilowatt hour battery that can do that plus turn the car on and the gas and continue to power that but yeah i don't know i didn't see that feature request ram if you're sure you open your garage when you do that yes because with that one no lightning you don't have to you're very right you know it's a little

different newbie question here yeah it is ram right is the company yes it's not a dodge ram anymore that's what we i made that mistake a couple of weeks ago on the pod, I think. I thought it was a Dodge. I made that mistake like a year ago. Yeah, we thought it was Dodge Ram. Funny enough, you know, out of all, like, listen, we get stuff about weird tech people who enjoy cars. I think that's very obvious.

When I said it like a year ago, I have to say the Ram people were the nicest people in correcting me. So many people were like, it hasn't been named Dodge in years. It's just been its own company, but like just letting you know. Very nice.

Like I know it used to be that. I know it's just Ram now though. It wasn't like jumped down my throat, like the majority of the mistakes that I make. It was 2010. Okay. You have an excuse for missing 13 years of pickup trucks. I will say the logo is still that like big horn

thing that's what it was when it was the dodge ram right oh man i don't want to go any further into this because the potential of me making a mistake is through the roof right now marquez is just trying to direct the vehicle hate to me what do you you think about the GTR? Talk about the GTR. I, I liked, I liked the GTR. Oh, weirdly. On like the road or like a tracker? I think, I think it looks good. I like how it looks. Little mid episode, mini trivia. I've got a study here in front of me. A study? A study. a study. Whoops.

I've got a study here in front of me. What percentage, and this is by Strategic Vision, an auto research firm, what percentage of Ford F-150 owners rarely or never tow anything? I heard this from Ford. Dude, the Ford guy told us this. I don't remember exactly what it was,

but it was so much higher than you expect incredibly high it's never gonna be over 90 i think it's like over 80 rarely or i think it might be over 90 though i think it's probably over half never and then i think rarely would include most of the rest of owners i think it's 90 my here's my the people who would answer that are they answering answering the survey, answering a survey? Yes, this is self-reported. People, if you tow at all, I would assume would never say rarely. They want to pretend to do it more.

Self-reported would be a bunch of people who do towing, so maybe it's higher or lower. It's 63%. Never or rarely? Never or rarely. But what's even crazier is that 52% of f-150 owners use them as a daily commuter no it's true anyway this is all to say that while in our brains towing might be important for a truck uh and another another thing on that though is a lot of people who tow and are towing a lot

will go for 250 or three like they'll an upgradedbertruck. Yes, that's the towing dream. Yeah. All those real Cybertrucks out there. Coming soon. Wait, okay. My favorite track car news of the week. I tweeted this. The Ramat Navara set a new Guinness World Record.

You know how they set like the fastest 0-60 of a production car, the fastest 0-100, the fastest 0 to two hundred they had all these acceleration records in a straight line they set another straight line acceleration record that i guess they maybe forgot to think of the first time oh it's the top speed record backwards oh it's the fastest production car ever backwards with a top speed of 171 miles per hour in a straight line backwards and i need you to just i don't even need you to picture this i actually will put a link below where you can watch them blast this car backwards at 170 miles an hour in a straight line and it is one of the most entertaining i don't know why we're watching it for like half an hour this

funny video because they have the same exact shoot type where they're like action shots and it's just this car you just picture the guy like didn't you say they originally posted it in reverse which made everything look like it was going forwards and then they said gotcha yeah this is all reverse they opened with this montage of the car going really fast in a straight line and they were like all those shots were played backwards because this car is hauling backwards at 170 miles an hour is this useful no no it's not is this practical is this ever going to be a reason anyone buys a car no i did uh i'm trying to remember what car i reviewed on autofocus that was the fastest reversing car i've ever tested and i accidentally

discovered that it was within i'm just imagining me backing down my driveway at 50 miles an hour i'm just saying this would be very useful in every zombie apocalypse movie where they're all going backwards incredibly where they hit a dead end and they need to exactly yeah just hop in your hop in your three million dollar hyper car and if there was a car or vehicle i had during a zombie apocalypse i think the rivera would be the last one i would pick cybertruck is top of the list no cybertruck is probably the top of the list it's it is the top of the list yeah you'd pick an ev in a zombie apocalypse what if the electricity's out you have a better chance of finding gas reserves but doesn't people don't people always say that gas pumps run electricity so if electricity is out you're doomed anyway yeah well i would siphon it with my mouth you can siphon electricity with your mouth if you try hard enough

we should we should take a quick break we're going but before we do we should of course do trivia trivia i would use the moto compacto as my zombie apocalypse vehicle that's a great option what is so in honor of david not being here these are both questions that david would probably get if he was here oh that's you guys questionable we'll see first question wait that's really unfortunate because what if david does get to phone in trivia i will not allow it yeah oh okay great great great great great first question you have to ask david questions that i would probably get right what is andrew's middle name okay laika the camera giant is actually a portmanteau of two words lights the founder's last name and

blink can we get a reaction of david i actually listening to the question i didn't even hear the question because i was imagining david's face watching this like on the plane ride back being like i know that it's so easy it's so easy everyone should know this um okay you'll repeat the question a portmanteau what was that word portman a portmanteau is when you smash two words together i like that so laika is a combination of the words Leitz, which is the founder's last name. And I think the name of the parent company. Oh, I knew that. His last name was Leitz. L-E-I-T-Z.

Oh. Yeah. It's different. I was going to say camera action. Yeah. No, that was his full name. His first name was Leitz. Yeah.

Wait. Speaking of people who have a great last name for what they do, I found these amusing. I don't know. Lights. Yeah. Wait, speaking of people who have a great last name for what they do, there is, I found these amusing. I don't know. Totally. Like there's a frisbee player. Like Ball Ball being a basketball player. Exactly. Yeah, totally.

Eagle McMahon is a disc golf player. His first name is Eagle, actually. Eagle. Perfect. I mean, last name is even more impressive because he couldn't choose it. At the Worlds tournament that I was at, I saw a Canada jersey that said Frisbee on the back. What?

It was his name. No way. No way. Yeah, F-R-I-S-B-Y. Yeah, that's still fire. That's pretty sick. That's incredible, right? His life was chosen for him.

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see what i did there no um it's a it's a camera though that you would shoot track cars with oh sorry that was a stretch but you know it works in my head i thought it was pretty stretchy the sony alpha 9 3 it was announced this week there was an event for it it was earlier it has some really cool features probably primary of them being that it's the world's first full-frame global shutter camera yes which is actually super cool and impressive i know very little about global shutter so can you explain it fully i think i have the general idea about it but a couple examples of why it's yeah it's it's very useful especially with fast moving subjects or frames basically if you think about a camera sensor being a bunch of lines of pixels let's say you have a let's just

say a 50 megapixel camera line by line technically the computer inside the camera to take a picture is reading all of those lines one at a time like a curtain from top to bottom yeah so it's not capturing everything at once and that's usually fine because it's extremely fast and nothing's really moving fast enough for the top and the bottom of the frame to be different unless you have a particularly fast object that's like flying through the frame where when you scan the top half it's in one part of the frame and you scan the bottom half it's in another part it'll actually mess up the image yeah or there's a phenomenon called rolling shutter where if you just like swipe back and

forth you can kind of see a little bit of a lag, a little bit of a jelly as it scans the lines from top to bottom. Okay, it's funny because I didn't think of it in terms of video, but it still affects video. Because like video, we get that jelly effect all the time. If you like whip pan something a little too hard, it's like catching up with it.

Which technically still applies to photos. If you're shooting a track car passing by and you're whip panning really fast and you have rolling shutter come in, it'll distort your image. Yeah. And the other example I saw was like taking a photo of like a helicopter that's flying. The blades can turn into kind of like this warped you almost because they're spinning so fast. Yeah. It doesn't capture it all in one thing. Yeah. So global shutter is opening everything at once. Global shutter is reading the entire frame at once. It takes a lot of computing power,

and hence you usually don't see huge sensors able to do that. You'll see smaller sensors able to do it. This is the first full-frame Global Shutter camera. So even our red cameras are all not Global Shutter. Actually, the one that is Global Shutter is the smaller sensor. I believe the Komodo is Global Shutter. So yeah, full-frame Global global shutter is a big deal.

And so that's going to be awesome for people basically who are looking to take advantage of that fast moving stuff. People who are shooting sports, people who are shooting helicopters, birds, cars, things like that. Fast moving stuff. They're saying people who might need a button that can turbo boost their camera. This is also a feature that would be interesting to those people funny you mentioned that this camera has a turbo boost button um i remember the days when i when a camera that could shoot like 10 frames per second was really impressive it's almost like video yeah you take it you hear and like, dang, 10 shots in one second. I could just spray and get every single part of this moment and pick the perfect photo.

And that's kind of a strategy, and people do that. Now, this photo camera can shoot 20 frames per second with a special speed boost button, where in the middle of it, if you press press and hold it will shoot 120 pictures every second with as long as the lens is compatible yes full continuous autofocus as well yes pretty incredible i guess technologically speaking in my head it makes sense if you have a video camera that can shoot 120 frames per second and it's global shutter then it should be capable of 120 photos per second but opening and closing a shutter a whole bunch of times getting that fast of a shutter speed that's extra math that's extra processing but it does it i don't believe it has a physical shutter at all it probably just leads it

leaves it open and exposes over and over again really fast yeah what i was reading online is that it just it's literally just the sensor turning on and off and on and off like there's nothing physical which is also why there's no banding at um high shutter speeds too yeah up to uh an 80 an 80 000th of a second shutter speed i don't know what you're shooting, but that's incredible. The noise that it makes, which I guess is like you said, just it turning on and off. Sounds like if you had like an RC car

that was broken and you just like pressed it. Did you hear the noise of it, the turbo boot button being hit? Maybe it does have something physical. You should find the noise. It's horrible. I'll play it right now. If anything I owns made the noise that that makes, I would just immediately assume it was broken.

Here's the noise that it makes when you go turbo mode. So I can be shooting at the speed of a 9 Mark II, which is 20 frames per second. I can be shooting at the speed of a... And then I can just press that custom button to be able to go to 120 frames per second. What is that noise? There must be a...

So I guess the reason i thought it sounded weird because i didn't realize it was the switching between them like changes the pitch of it and that changing of pitch is what sounded really strange to me but it is a constant between when you separate both of them now i just feel like i'm misunderstanding some part of this camera though because that's a lot of noise for for an like for something electronic to make it is a lot of noise but i don't think that's 120 noises in the second so that sounds about like a hundred really yeah you think that was yeah i do oh 120 hertz because i have no idea below 20 hertz is when your ear begins to be

able to hear individual pulses 20 20 below 20 is when you hear that and then above 20 is when you're okay so you're saying i'm not hearing it but that doesn't mean it's not yeah making it might be also a difference between trained ears and non-trained ears also what's making the noise someone let me know please because now i i feel like i don't know anything that is a cool feature though i think that i mean i'll literally never use it but the example of like someone mid-action trying to capture the exact moment that something happens like lighting a match or i don't know something compressing over time or whatever i totally get it i i personally think the hockey example they used was

bad because it didn't seem like anything was that minusculely different between them but when i brought the a7r out to yellowstone and the tetons like some of the birds i was shooting i was i saw them and they would take flight and i go like i'd be like i definitely got a sweet shot and then scroll through all of them and be like you have 120 out of focus shots no not even 100 not 120 because it's far less than that and they were in focus but just like none of them were like the perfect wingspan or like everything matching up perfectly every time i was like i wish his head was looking this way and his wing was in this position from different ones you need either this camera or google's magic editor to to reposition things in the picture for you.

It's clearly the camera's fault and not mine. It's the bird's fault. So that's why I need 120 frames. Also, side note, I don't think I've ever heard a hummingbird in person until last week. Have you ever heard a hummingbird flying? I've definitely seen them, but i don't know if i can specifically think of the noise well under 20 hertz you can't actually hear the what you hear it you just hear the individual the individual pulses i thought i didn't see it at first so i

thought i was being attacked by a giant wasp oh it was that close to your head yeah it like flies by and it's like and it sounded like a wasp. That's a horrible impression, but it sounds like a bug because it's beating its wings so fast. I just thought that was worth sharing. That's interesting. I mean, this camera would be a great camera to take a photo of a hummingbird.

That's a fact. If you could mute that loud sound, though. Yeah, you might scare it off. Yeah, animals don't like that. Yeah, well, you need the super telephoto lens also, so you're kind of far yeah animals don't like that uh yeah well you need the super telephoto lens also so you're like kind of far away can't hear you then you get why was that not the example why was a hummingbird not the example why was it a hockey player listen i love hockey but that was a bad example he's pretty fast moving i mean the shot that they showed in the

video was just a guy shooting a puck but they should have done something crazier like someone checking someone in the glass or something that would have been so the glass shattering someone's teeth falling someone's teeth leaving their mouth in slow motion that would have been cool but they went with a pretty vanilla example anyway it's a it's a six thousand dollar camera it's coming out spring of next year if you're interested we'll also leave a link to sony's a9 mark 3 if you want a camera with nos that's your camera. Yeah, I'm impressed. Pixel 3.

Yeah. Pixel Watch 3. Oh, I didn't even know. What's going on with Pixel Watch 3? Wait, what did you think it was going to be about with the Pixel 3? I was like, what happened to Pixel 3? Did it just get CyanogenMod again? What's going on?

Pixel Watch 3. Sorry. Pixel Watch 3. Yeah, we did just review pixel watch two um but there was an article out the other day because of a um patent filing that looks like a potential for a future pixel watch excuse me possibly having a touch sensitive bezel on the outside what could go wrong what could go wrong nothing a lot a lot um yeah i thought i thought it was kind of interesting one because yeah we just did see the pixel watch too but

this looks like kind of an in-between of well one i'm confused because i don't see the digital crown in the photo of the patent anymore but maybe that's just missing there just a patent i think they'd probably yeah put in the pen the crowns i liked the crown the crown personally. It's not as good as the Apple Watch crown, but when I was using the Pixel Watch for a little bit, I enjoyed the crown. And I think you can have both here because this kind of reminds me of the Touch version of the Galaxy Watch Classic,

which has the physical bezel that you can spin. Now, the reason I like that better though on the Galaxy Watch is because that also acts as kind of like a buffer between your screen and surfaces. And I think that's super important. And I think the Pixel Watch couldn't do that because of the way it's shaped, but also because of the way it's shaped, I would want protection on it. But yeah, it says the sensors could respond to press, tap, squeeze, and swipe gestures, and then could potentially have use for specific apps, depending on what you're inside of. It's interesting.

I guess I have a couple of things that come to my mind when I see this. One is it's a patent, so I don't know that that means Pixel Watch 3 as much as it's just like, hey, Google had an idea. Bro, this is the podcast. This is the speculation. I mean, it would be nice-

It's 100% confirmed for the Pixel Watch 3. If it goes from patent to confirmed in a product in nine months, that would be so dope. But you know how these timelines are, so that's why I'm just throwing that out there. Listen, we're getting close to the end of the year. We gotta take whatever news articles we can get. Fair, we'll have the headline of the podcast.

We'll happily go crazy. Brand new Pixel Watch 3. But then number two, I like this. We have it. What was the last pixel you could squeeze this must have been four right i think the four i don't think the five had it and then i don't think i brought it back the squeeze feature was interesting and they got rid of it for a reason but the squeeze feature to activate the assistant was decently useful i loved it it was not as sensitive as potentially having a bunch of extra like swipe

functions or tapping functions it was mainly just like squeeze it hard enough and you get the assistant quickly very like rudimentary sensor frame type stuff that's actually that's a good point on my old garmin i think it was the Active 3. It had a place where you could swipe on the side. And if that happened to be on my wrist near the top of my hand, if I reached back far enough, it could activate it and wind up moving things around. Exactly.

That was going to be my third thing, which is the physical bezel on the Galaxy Watches is like ideal for me because once you, I do the accidental button press all the time. I've actually looked down at my Apple Watch and I was like about to call emergency services because my wrist or my hand was pressing the action button

or whatever the dial for too long. This seems like potential for accidental presses would be very high. Now all I can think about is the squeeze feature on the Pixel and how much I miss it. It was pretty sweet. I loved that. But they got rid of it for a reason. is probably not a lot of people use it and it was costing extra money and they decided it wasn't worth it but i used it that's very true i actually use it too i don't even use

a pixel anymore but yeah now it's a swipe do you swipe up from the corner now so what i used to use it for all the time was when it's cold out and i would wear gloves and i wanted to um like most of the time it was like telling claire i was on my way home that i'm leaving work walk outside squeeze text claire i'm on my way home super useful perfect yeah you can you can hold the power button to do assistant now on the zen you have a zen phone yes hold power power button is assistant i think you can map actually holding power button double tapping power button and maybe even triple tapping oh no it can't do that because its fingerprint is there and it just automatically brings me into

but if you're wearing gloves wait wait go into the power go in your set well yeah i can just use a different finger now yeah i think you have oh i can change it you can activate that in the settings you can go to turn on power button long press because this is what i did i think i had double press for camera and long press for assistant on my zen phone i'll let you do this you're the master you're the master of my phone smart key that's what it's called they call it smart key so you can long press change that to wake up google assistant or what did we take what did we take away from here it was your power menu because when you hold it it was but i can still turn it off from just okay oh yeah or from your uh or your swipe down oh there you go you can still do the same thing it's just a smaller

target instead of squeezing the whole phone it's just the button all right yeah wasn't happy about that but so yeah you know i i see this feature it's kind of cool i wonder how much of it they plan to implement in a future product but i do think seeing it in a patent application looks like google had an idea yeah it i feel like it hopefully would make sense. Although the thing I would like about the Pixel Watch, a new one the most, is to get rid of the giant bezel that kind of just folds over.

Like if the Pixel Watch could have the screen really like moving into the folding sides, it would look so good. I think it already does look good. So I guess rather than eliminating the bezel, they're trying to make use for it, which is a good option. But I would rather see that like be a full domed suite screen.

I don't think the hardware is the issue with the Pixel watch. For this feature? Yeah. I think battery a little bit is, but I think the battery in every smartwatch except for Garmin is horrible. That's true. Yeah, I think that that was, I might be wrong about this as far as how late they used it but i think it was literally just a sensor inside of the metal frame where when you squeeze it you're physically bending something to move inside yeah that's with the

phone yeah it was from htc that was htc way so you didn't need extra battery or processing it was just a new button on the phone it was was just in the phone. Yeah. It was like another sensor. Yeah. But I mean, just in general, the pixel watch, I don't think the reason, like, I don't think the hardware and how it looks is the issue. Oh, totally agreed. It's one of the best things about the watch. Yeah. There's a, there's bigger fish to fry with the pixel watch, but I still think it's pretty good as is. I just, it's cool. I was going to say, do you remember the Moto 360? With the flat tire? Still one of my favorite looking smartwatches ever.

I think it's one of the best examples that nostalgia doesn't always sell because they tried to make two more of those and no one gave a damn about them at all. But they didn't go OG thin bezel aesthetic because I really don't mind the flat tire. It's not the worst. Look at this thing. It clearly could be could be so much better well because it looks like a watch yeah i can't believe it's very funny to me seeing you look at this and be like this looks so good and wearing a square apple watch on your oh i've never said the ultra was good looking i really don't like the way the

apple watch ultra looks anymore it's just the battery life is so much better than the others I've used. I think the Apple Watch Ultra is the best-looking Apple Watch. I think it looks fantastic. The best-looking Apple Watch. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not as good-looking as a Galaxy Watch. Or a Garmin FX Gen 2. Or a Moto 360.

That's a good-looking watch. Kevin O'Leary would wear that. I think he would. I'm just kidding. No, he would never wear this. But all that to say uh the patent application is interesting and we'll keep an eye on it for pixel watch of the future confirmed let's take a quick break and let's do some trivia All right. Welcome back to the David Hour of Trivia.

Our next question, long-time listeners of the show will certainly know. David famously worked in the server center of what tech company? You don't remember? Oh. The minute you said worked, I knew what the answer was. I think I know. I think I remember we'll be back after the break

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waveform. netsuite.com slash waveform netsuite.com slash waveform welcome back we have a new youtube feature which i'm excited for that do you know what it is no okay whoops calm your excitement um i just thought it was funny it's called the play something button and it basically remember we talked about stumble upon a few weeks ago yeah do you remember what stumble upon was is that where it would just take you to a random website yeah so imagine you're on youtube and you're scrolling through your home page this is how it works and you get a an option that's just like can't decide what you want to watch try to discover a new video and

then there's just a button that says play something and it just picks a video for you to watch so you don't have to make the choice interesting now i know you have questions and i don't think i have answers we'll try first question this could be a video or a short i don't know okay i didn't think of that either second question this could be it would be rough if it's a short if you're so desperate to see a video that you're willing for it and then it gives you like 60 seconds it's unclear it could also go to full length videos okay okay so here's i'm gonna i'm an ipad kid i fully admit it if i'm home alone and i make food it will sit and get cold while i find a video to watch. I will not start the play until something is playing.

And that takes a very long time. I'm guilty. 100% guilty. We'll admit. What is the difference between the shorts button and this button? Functionally. They both open up a random short. Well, it sounds like it does open up full length.

It does also open up a full length video. Okay. It shouldn't open up a short at all. Yeah, because that's already with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one, the amount of times that I've searched for a YouTube short. No, but that's not even what you're doing. The amount of times that I've been like, I want to watch a short about dominoes, you know, and then I type dominoes short.

It's like that's literally no one's ever done that. It is funny that when you when you search for a topic on YouTube, you do get regular videos and shorts about that topic. So if you I don't mind that, actually. Like I've watched a bunch of like reviews about a product and I run out. I will start watching the shorts about it too. My girlfriend and I do actually do this for shorts of talking birds. So yeah, actually I lied just then.

I was gonna say though, but me enjoying that coming up doesn't like mean I don't disagree with you because it just means sometimes what I'm searching can be accomplished in a short. I was looking up the other day how to lube a keyboard switch and a short came up and I was like, well, I'm just going to watch the short because it has to get right into doing it rather than 20 minutes of, which is probably also good information. But right then I just really quickly wanted to try and figure it out. So coming up in search as an option, I think great.

But going back to this button, my question is how much of your personal algorithm is this including into it? I have to assume it's gotta be something. No way it's fully random. Because if it's fully random and I'm like, oh, I just made myself a sweet plate of chicken nuggets. Let's watch some. and then i get the like

how to fix your sink drain or like a tutorial of like how to fix something on your house or 13 year old news story about something you don't care about yeah exactly so i i have to imagine but in the article that i read i didn't see exactly what it was what it's gonna play but then also if it's referencing just your algorithm is it like going a little outside the box? Like Spotify DJ does take into account what you're listening to, but try and push you in a different direction a little bit. It tries to keep you on your toes. Yeah.

I feel like this is just going to pick one of the like eight that's in your top recommended videos. It's just going to show Mr. Beast videos. It's just going to shuffle what was on your homepage anyway. Maybe. Pretty much. Wild. It's like, I'm feeling lucky for videos. It's just going to shuffle what was on your homepage anyway. Pretty much. Wild. It's like I'm feeling lucky for videos. Yeah, I don't know.

So apparently Netflix had this a few years ago and I didn't even know, which makes sense because there's been so many times I remember being in college and a bunch of us would like get together and be like, oh yeah, let's just throw a movie on before the end of the night. And then like an hour and a half later, we're like, let's just go to bed. We still haven't picked anything. I don't know what you're gonna watch. Yeah.

But I didn't even know it was on Netflix. So it's one of those things that feel like sounds like a great idea and then no one uses and Google will scrap it in six months. We should make a bet on that. How long will this watch something feature last on YouTube? Over or under six months? So first it has to fully make it.

I don't think it's fully available yet. Will it even make it that far? Those are two very different questions. I think it will make it through. I think it will be gone by June. I agree with you. There's a right way to do this feature, in my opinion.

And the right way to do it is to parody a website called Forgotify.com. Okay. And Forgotify.com pulls up a random song on Spotify that has zero plays.

Wow. So you are inherently the first person to listen to that song on Spotify. We're talking zero. We're talking not even this person's mom listened to this. We're talking not even this person listened to their own music on Spotify. I have a problem with the name. Why?

Because I get it, but when I think forgot, I think something that has been heard and then forgotten about. True. So zero views means no one can forget about something they've never heard before. Except for maybe the person who uploaded it forgot they uploaded it. I assume that if no one listens to it, what's stopping it from being forgotten? Fair. Anyway, but the YouTube version of this would be killer.

Think about all the insane stuff there is on youtube that has zero and also think about the fact that when something has zero views the algorithm will never serve it to you that needs to be the i'm feeling lucky button so a couple interesting things in there first the way i am explained the YouTube algorithm by YouTube, it will show you stuff with zero views. Really? Okay, okay. It just doesn't necessarily know who to serve it to. It's going to try.

Mariah gets a lot of really low view videos for some reason. Yeah, a lot of low view videos get showed. But also, it might serve it to a bunch of people and nobody clicks it because the thumbnail is horrible and it still has zero views. So maybe it tried. The other thing is, there is so much risky stuff on YouTube with zero views that YouTube could not make that the feature.

They couldn't do it. They like their safe, lots of views, well-reviewed content. And if there were to just build, like, just have a button on the site, just send me to something that no one has ever seen before, that's pretty risky so i think that might get youtube in some trouble so they probably wouldn't do that yeah but i still love it but we'd still love it yeah i agree alice that should be one i disagree i think it should be truly freaking random totally random totally random any video on youtube even if it's a 13

year old news totally random and you have to watch the entire thing before you watch any other i would like them to combine the truly random feature with the feature that used to tell you other people who are watching the video at the same time as you because if you got served something truly random with like six views from 2017 and then you see that someone else also arrives on the same video somehow by some other random someone else also arrives on the same video somehow by some other random pathway through the internet it's a special moment it really feels like you want live chat on video on demand videos on youtube no i just like the mystique of seeing like a profile picture and a username being like i don't know how you got here you don't want to communicate you just want to see they're there i just want to see they're there you just want to give them the little nod in the grocery store

the little head tilt like in google docs or something where it's like anonymous lizard yeah no like someone else is here and i can feel that i can feel that we're on we're on the same place on this very small internet together you could probably just make like a chrome extension that fakes that well then everyone in the world would have to use a chrome extension which is tough but yeah i like that i like that feature idea um all right one more thing and this is something i wanted to talk about a few weeks ago but we got really busy and now it's officially out but spotify for premium subscribers is offering 15 hours of free audiobook listening per month i think that's awesome that's really cool uh as

someone who has been trying to read more and i'm putting that in air quotes because it's audiobooks yeah someone who's trying to have people read to them more yes yes uh 15 hours is surprisingly short that's so that's what i originally said but as someone who doesn't put forth the effort to actually listen to audiobooks i don't think i have the right to complain about it and also i guess if i'm listening to more than 15 hours a month i deserve to be paying for it probably probably yeah which i guess i already am paying for spotify premium so do you know how much it is to get like unlimited oh like to just have a spot oh i don't know does spotify do no i don't think

they do unlimited audiobooks as far as i'm'm aware. Yeah, books you still buy separate. And then if you pass that 15 hours, you can pay for an extra 10 hours, or you could just buy the book. Yeah. Oh, you buy the book. Like, audiobooks are like one-time purchases. So they're going to give you 15 hours of preview. Audible?

Audible has something where you pay for the subscription, and you basically get one free credit a month. So it's basically like a free book. So it's kind of the same thing. You get a free audio book per month. The way I was thinking of it, the reason 15 hours feels low is because if I have a one hour commute, which I do, unfortunately, but that's my fault. Then I'm in the car for two hours a day. So that's seven days essentially of commuting.

If I listened to it straight through like that, which doesn't seem like a lot. It'd be great if you got like a 17 hour book. Yeah, and listen to it at the beginning of the month rather than the end. I think I finally will start actually listening to some damn audio books through this. To be fair, if you're in the US,

most public libraries that you can sign up for free have audio books that you can do to be fair sometimes they're annoying because they only have x amount of copies and you need to be put on a wait list for them and then you have x amount of time to finish it um and also i think most library cards you have to like go to the library and get your library card to be part of that i've tried to do it a few times and i'm too lazy but um so this is nice for me the lazy man but if you really want to listen to a book for free there's generally ways you can do it through a public library yeah for sure well that's all our stories for this week pretty pretty quick pretty short one yeah uh also some fun stuff in there and i mean we got to see the pixel watch 3 though you got to see a car drive backwards as

170 miles an hour i think that's a pretty successful are you gonna go watch that video during lunch when we're done i might have it up in another tab already ready to go um that being said we should definitely get to the david trivia answers sorry dav, trivia time. So, quick update on the score. Marquez with 12. Andrew with 10. David with 1, 2, carry the 1, 12. It wasn't me. It wasn't you.

But you got me on there. First question. Laika, the camera giant, is actually a portmanteau of two words. Lights, the founder's last name, and blank. What is the other word that makes up the name Laika? David is yelling at his phone right now. Hey, David. Have a safe flight back.

See you soon. I'm going to feel bad when I get this wrong. Flip him and read. What did you say? I thought you'd be right. So I changed my answer and one of us is right i said camera oh sorry capture i said camera is it really yep let's go wait so you guys did a very good job at holding your face when i made the joke camera action earlier i wrote down camera i was like nah too easy erased it and wrote capture. Good job Marques. Okay. That's fine. I can take that L.

Next question. What company did David work in the server center of? Oh I think I know. I said it first. Wait what? You're furiously erasing his answer right now, second guessing himself.

What's he going to put? Watching him write. He's running out of time. What was that? My answer. I've never seen anything like that before. I'm confused. He just made a giant circle a bunch of times.

So you were circling your answer. Flip it. Okay okay we both said intel and you're both right what did you erase i was trying to so i think we both knew it immediately and i watched you write intel and i when i saw you wrote the el i was like i could tell too easily what you wrote so i was like let me write something that's obviously wrong and i just wrote a bunch of letters and i was just wanted to see your reaction and you were just like that's wrong i I just wrote a bunch of letters and I was just wanted to see a reaction and you were just like that's wrong I was just happy that I got two points this week I wasn't thinking that deeply and then I but I had already written intel so I just circled it oh okay that was fun it was

hard to erase nice you caught up with David now you both have 12 who me and david wow oh nice get f**ked david that's two bleeps this episode david i'm so sorry but also we're not no i think you need to think of two andrew questions for him oh you have no idea no i think i have andrew questions for david we have way more than no i know I forgot about that item on the Taco Bell menu top left corner go I'm shocked this is taking so long

the obvious answer is just the like taco meal well anyway that's basically it for this week thanks for watching thanks for listening thanks for week thanks for watching thanks for listening thanks for subscribing thanks for liking thanks for tuning in thanks for hanging out thanks for being a part of this thanks for making this possible thanks for supporting thanks for clicking those links thanks for subscribing thanks for being here catching the next one

peace is that like an npc stream i liked that repeat it next week waveform is produced by adam melina and ellis rovin we're partnered with our waveform is produced by adam melina and ellis rovin we're partnered with the podcast network and our triathlon music was created by Vainso. I do want someone to blind test me so I can prove that I definitely can see the difference between 60, 90, and 120. I think you could do it if it was on the phone that you're used to every day. I think if you were... I think you could do it. The best way to...

I think the easiest way to test it would be on a computer. And I think that's out of your... No, because I'm doing... Scrolling, so it would have to be three different phones. I think 60 and 120 you could tell. 90 is the one that I think that's out of your scrolling. So it would have to be three different phones. I think 60 and 120 you could tell. 90 is the one that I think is tough. I can tell. There's a phone, a singular phone you can set to 60, 90, or 120.

Right. Yeah, you can do RG. You can do Zen. That could be a short. That could be a studio short. Yeah. Yeah. Because I get so many comments of people like,

you can't tell the difference. I can't tell. Nobody can tell. It's like, bro, it's extremely obvious. Set your iPhone to 60. It looks horrible.