Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Twitter Blue and WWDC!

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

In this episode Marques and Andrew quickly cover stories like Twitter Blue, top grossing iPhone games, and a huge internet outage caused accidentally. After that we dive into our full blown WWDC 2021 ...coverage! Links: Subscribe to the pod & share with friends: http://bit.ly/WaveformMKBHD Subscribe to the pod on YouTube for full videos: https://bit.ly/WVFRMPodcastYouTube https://twitter.com/wvfrm https://twitter.com/mkbhd https://twitter.com/andymanganelli https://twitter.com/AdamLukas17 https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ shop.mkbhd.com http://discord.gg/MKBHD Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC WWDC Coverage: https://bit.ly/35lndVH Fastly Outtage: https://bit.ly/3ivNqII Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:26 take a Craig dive into that WWDC hole, we're just going to check out a couple quick stories we have beforehand. Do you like that? I thought of that right before. The Craig dive. I swear he does it for the memes. It was too good. Okay. The first thing we have here, I
Starting point is 00:01:41 wrote this down because I wanted to just present some numbers just to hear it. just so you guys can hear the numbers. There's four iPhone games that each gross more than a million dollars per day. Yeah. And I just want you to think about that. Just like, okay, there's obviously a lot of people that use the iPhone. There's a lot of people that play games on the iPhone. And there's a lot of microtransactions and ways for those developers to make money from those apps.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But the top couple, I think I'm going to, I think we wrote this down real quick here. The number one, Roblox, makes an estimated $3.01 million per day. Cha-ching. That's... In revenue. I know how popular Roblox is. I feel like it's similar to Minecraft Fortnite levels of hype. And it just really is proving that this whole microtransaction free-to-play platform is a moneymaker.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Oh, yeah. It's wild. What do people buy in roblox i don't even know skins and just straight skins wow that's what i think i don't know it wouldn't surprise me i don't think it's a game that has a whole lot of competitive modes to it so i don't think there's much you can get in the game that would actually give you a competitive advantage over anything um usually microtransactions in pc xbox stuff games don't give you uh any competitive advantage you just get like aesthetics yeah but mobile games are one of those games where you can get a like if you think of um i don't know if you ever play like clash of clans or boom beach there
Starting point is 00:03:18 there are a lot of these games where beach it's called boom. It was pretty much like you develop an island base and you go around and attack other island bases. Tower defense game. Similar, but the thing about it is, imagine in a tower defense game if you built one of your towers and then you have to wait 24 hours before you can build
Starting point is 00:03:40 anything else until that tower is complete. But if you're willing to spend tokens or whatever, spend money on tokens, tokens you can make that you can build it in a second and then get better at the game by paying small money so it's generally a lot of these games are time-based i think claire was even playing like the sims and in the sims you can like do an action or build something in the house and then you have to wait x amount of time and you can pay to do it faster. So there are actually these like competitive advantages in a lot of these mobile games, which is probably why they're making so much money. So Roblox is number one, $3 million a day.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Then you got Clash of Clans in a distant second with an estimated $1.8 million of daily revenue. Then Candy Crush Saga would be your number three, and Pokemon Go at number four. Yeah, those are like, they didn't put how much they make, but there is another number here that is the top 10 iPhone games generate almost $11.2 million daily. Yeah, this is one of those great stats where like, okay, if you were to separate, you know, sometimes remember how if we separated Just Max from Apple?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah. Just Max would be like a Fortune 500 company just because of how much revenue they make from Max. I feel like if you just separated the top five to ten games on the App Store by itself, that company by itself, $11 million a day, we do the math. That's a lot of money. Now, so the first thing I thought of this when you posted this is we've talked so much about Apple taking 30%. I had to crunch the numbers because what's 30% of 11.2 million? That means Apple in profits just from selling. I mean, it sounds weird to say just from selling this. They're clearly doing other work. They're doing customer support and processing transactions and everything,
Starting point is 00:05:29 but they're making $3.3 million daily in profits just off the estimated top 10 games. I mean, we're talking hundreds of thousands of apps on the App Store, right? But there's a couple. That's wild. A couple of huge ones that just make them a ton of money. Well, you know what good for apple good for good for apple for building such a massive app store that they can afford to give that platform to everyone but yeah wow that's a lot of money good for them good for roblox
Starting point is 00:05:56 actually i didn't realize i had that much that much active user base uh all right we want to talk about twitter blue though okay Okay. We have to. Twitter Blue. How do I describe Twitter Blue? I've been asking for a bunch of paid features
Starting point is 00:06:10 actually from Twitter for a long time and I'm still sort of hunting for some of those premium features that I would like as a creator
Starting point is 00:06:19 but as of right now Twitter has announced their subscription service called Twitter Blue and they're starting to roll it out. And we are hoping, maybe, at least I was hoping, maybe, editing your tweets after a brief period would be one of the features. For those who are already typing into your keyboards why it's such a bad idea to allow editing tweets, you can watch my dear Twitter video where I explain exactly how I think editing tweets should work, which was, you know, it should be a very limited amount of time they were able to edit tweets. It's a
Starting point is 00:06:53 limited amount of characters you're allowed to change and tweets show a change log and a history. Yeah, change log is huge. If a tweet's changed, then you know if I retweeted something and it gets changed, obviously I can see that. Anyway, so what does Twitter blue allow for Twitter blue will cost about three hours and 49 cents Canadian or 449 Australian per month so we're guessing well I'm not good at conversions but I'm thinking that's around three dollars a month USD it's only only available on those two because those are the two only two regions it's out in right now. Right, where it's launching. It gives you a bookmark folders feature to let you group saved tweets to make them easier to find later.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Do you save tweets? Not really. No, like if we ever really need them, we screenshot them for like a video or something, but I don't think I've ever saved a tweet. I didn't know you could save a tweet, to be honest. I also use Pocket for free. Oh, Adam was just teaching me about that
Starting point is 00:07:45 the other day. I've never heard of it before. So that's free. There's also reader mode which lets you keep up with threads by turning them into an easy to read group of text and mashing all the tweets together into one page. That, I think that's kind of interesting but for a reason that to me makes no
Starting point is 00:08:02 sense for paying. I have friends that just don't use Twitter. And when I try and show them a tweet thread, they're super confused and have no idea who's responding to who. And if you just never use Twitter, I kind of get it. I know it's like, we use it, we're used to it. Especially when you bring in retweeting,
Starting point is 00:08:20 because then it's like, here's the thing they're replying to, the thing underneath them. And then there's people replying to the thing above the retweet under that. So this would make sense to me for people who are not used to Twitter, but nobody who's not used to Twitter is going to buy a Twitter subscription. Yeah, it would have to be someone who uses Twitter a lot who would want to buy this subscription so they could share these tweet Twitter threads with people who aren't on Twitter very much.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Interesting. Other Twitter blue features are purely aesthetic, adds a new color theme option, as well as the ability to change the color of Twitter's app icon, and it gives you an undo feature. We have it. We have edit tweets. There it is. That's it. What do you want? This undo feature.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So it doesn't actually... It's kind of like undo send in Gmail, where it says it will let you, within 30 seconds, undo a tweet, and that undo tweet is not deleting the tweet you just sent. It just never sent your tweet. So my whole thing is when you make a typo, you don't really realize you made a typo right away. Even if you proofread, nobody's perfect. Everyone likes to go proofread your tweets.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Obviously, yes, we try to proofread our tweets. Do you think people who tweet all the time just don't proofread their tweets? Sometimes stuff slips through. You don't catch it. Somebody tweets at you, hey, you meant to say this word instead of that word. Autocorrect got you this time. And so because of that reply that I got, really quick I'll go, oh, I caught it,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and I wish I could just edit the tweet, but I'll have to delete it, and then repost, and hopefully that's all fine. With Twitter Blue, if you tweet the thing, and then nobody replies because it hasn't been sent yet, you're not going to catch the typo that you didn't catch while you were proofreading it, and then it's going to go out, and then it's going to see the typo, and then you still can't undo it anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, you're in the exact same scenario. It's, like you said, people make mistakes, and, like, I've proofread things multiple times, and sometimes, like, even in the proofreading process, you already know what you're reading, so in your head, you're basically reading it exactly how you meant to type it. And it's really easy to miss if you type of instead of off.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Or if you type the wrong there, you're saying it in your mind quickly. It's really easy to miss. And then the first 20 comments when you post it are you used the wrong word of the wrong there. Yeah. I was just at my high school for a ceremony and didn't realize until I saw my old yearbook that I had a high school yearbook quote.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I think that's why I thought of, of. And there's a typo in that high school yearbook quote. I didn't do that on purpose. I was a pretty good academic student, actually. I can't remember when I made that quote or decided to use that quote, but I, uh, it said off instead of of. Was that even my typo? Was that the person who typed it just wrote it wrong?
Starting point is 00:11:09 There's also an extra space in there for some reason. I don't know. The point being, I can already see all the comments about, like, just proofread your tweets. Yeah, well, mister, you've never made a typo in your life. That would work. Or missus, it's great for you. You don't need this feature.
Starting point is 00:11:24 But for the rest of us mere mortals we would like just the ability to add and edit a few characters how much would you pay for a full-blown exactly how you explained it edit tweet button okay just for this one feature because there's a couple other features i would like just that feature there's a couple other features i would like in twitter blue that i would actually pay for also i'd like to hear them and i'll go over those but if you could just give me this ability to edit a few characters in a tweet that I've been asking for,
Starting point is 00:11:50 I would pay at least 10 bucks a month just for that. Oh, wow. I'm a heavy Twitter user. I know that's a higher number than most people would give. I pay that much for unlimited songs in Spotify. I pay that much for basically an endless library of ad-free videos on YouTube. I would pay that much just to be able to edit my tweets.
Starting point is 00:12:07 As much as I think that's a high number, I think it is most important for people who would almost consider that a business expense because editing, like deleting a tweet and then reposting it isn't really a big deal for the majority of Twitter users. But if you're someone with a large following, you're potentially literally deleting hundreds of comments within the first minute or two. And while a lot of those will just point out the typo, it's an engagement hit that kind of stinks. Yeah, so there's other things I would prefer.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, I want to know what else you would want and what is the tier three payment per month to get literally everything you want. Oh, God. Okay. We're talking like Twitter business at this point. Yeah, definitely. I would pay for higher quality image processing.
Starting point is 00:12:55 That is coming, right? So currently you do have really good, I think it's PNG processing and it's uncropped images on Twitter and that's nice. I would just pay for a universal high-quality processing. I would actually pay for this on several platforms, like YouTube priority processing. I would already love that. But yeah, I would pay for high-quality, universal, uncompressed, not uncompressed, but really good processing images.
Starting point is 00:13:22 That would be great for someone like me who uploads a lot of high quality files especially thumbnails and i would i would probably want let me pick one more good idea here well that would be great i'm pretty sure we all just took new headshots in the studio for like our profile pictures and all of them just got destroyed that's mainly where you want high-quality uploading. It just absolutely destroys. If you've ever looked at your own Twitter banner, it's been ruined. It's been ruined.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And your profile picture. YouTube banners also are really, I get it, they have to be all over the place, but come on, it looks pretty rough. So the features you have here in Twitter Blue are okay, but honestly, totally should be built in for free to Twitter. They're not that special or serious um so i would not if it was available here i would not be paying twitter blue
Starting point is 00:14:13 i do think there's one other thing that could kind of fall into like quote-unquote business aspect of this payment is that there's like some sort of advanced customer service if you do do twitter blue so if you need help, I'm assuming copyright stuff or harassment or imitation and things like that. I'm guessing you would have a little quicker jump to the line on trying to figure stuff like that out. So that actually could be beneficial. It's just not fun.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like it's not a fun, you're not excited to pay $3 a month for that. Yeah, I guess this is a, this is a fair introductory price. Um, it's lame, but I'm not, I'm not paying for it. Sorry. Yeah. It's not the one. Uh, what else? I have one more article that I, I kind of read this morning because I heard about it yesterday and I just thought it was kind of interesting. It's, it's pretty quick though. Okay. Um, so yesterday morning around five 30 our time. So we probably five 30 AM our time. So we probably didn't even notice this, but, um, huge websites went offline, uh, Reddit, Twitch,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and even Amazon were down for like a little bit. And it's apparently because of, they all go through this web platform called Fastly. And I guess Fastly was having some issues. Well, the verge posted an article this morning that I'll put in the show notes. It was actually, Fastly came out with a comment saying that it was triggered by one singular user and it was accidental. They were, they quote, was triggered by a valid customer configuration change
Starting point is 00:15:38 on their end. So this customer is trying to configure something different with their like completely legal thing. We're doing the right thing, but they did an update in mid-May. And for whatever reason, this configuration change hitting that new update caused this massive bug that shut the entire. I don't know if it was the entire platform down or something specific. But if you're shutting down Amazon, Reddit, Twitch, like something big went down and we're past like one single,
Starting point is 00:16:07 or that's a rough buck, I guess. That's pretty impressive. Do we know who did it? No, they didn't say. I think the Verge's like subline was actually just like, fess up, who was it? We want to know.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But it even got to the point where some UK government sites were actually on the same platform and they were taken down and people were like having trouble accessing It even got to the point where some UK government sites were actually on the same platform, and they were taken down, and people were having trouble accessing government things they had to turn in. It's funny because sometimes large swaths of the internet all go down at once because they all use the same services, like AWS or something, Amazon's web services. A lot of sites use that, and as soon as AWS goes down for a little bit, a lot of websites
Starting point is 00:16:44 all at once don't work or barely work for a while um so it's kind of funny that amazon would be one of the large sites to go down because someone else's service is going down and twitch is owned by amazon i guess i don't know exactly what fastly does um but yeah i just thought it was crazy that someone uh you see i mean usually usually when you see those places go down, though, it's a targeted attack. And they like explain that it's a targeted attack. They have to figure it out and try and stop it. But this was just some poor customer. Like imagine calling back like, oh, yeah, that bug you you inherit, like figured out
Starting point is 00:17:17 the other day or you couldn't make your configuration change. Yeah, you took down Amazon in the process and some UK government websites. Yeah, 530 in the morning. That's a that's a pretty brutal mistake to make um bragging rights i think i guess yeah i just thought that was pretty funny all right well we got to talk about wwdc it's after the break let's do it bet mgm authorized gaming partner of the NBA, has your back all season long. From tip-off to the final buzzer, you're always taken care of with a sportsbook born in Vegas.
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Starting point is 00:19:54 expectations really high, but it is a developer conference like Google IO and like others. So we can't be shocked when there isn't hardware. And this was an entirely software show. Yeah. I'm always surprised when people say they're like underwhelmed by it, but it's like, So we can't be shocked when there isn't hardware. And this was an entirely software show this time. I'm always surprised when people say they're like underwhelmed by it. But it's like, it's a developer conference. You're not going to get some crazy stuff. What was it? Last year, they mentioned M1 Max, but not like specifically the product based on it. So it's like kind of a hardware announcement.
Starting point is 00:20:22 The Mac Pro got an unveiling at WWDC. Like that was cool. Just an unveiling at wwdc like that was cool just an unveiling like we didn't get to buy it that day or anything but this was just software so but we want to go through all these because apple makes a lot of software they make ios they make watch os they make ipad os they make mac os they make home kit they make everything in between so they updated pretty much all this stuff stuff. We could just start with iOS 15, right? That's the, that's the big, that's usually the, the big one, the fun one where smartphone reviewers, that's usually, uh, that's fair. This is what we'll, this is what we'll see on the iPhone in September or whenever the newest iPhone,
Starting point is 00:20:58 the 13 comes out. This is what we'll like launch on the new iPhone. And I'll be honest, there was a lot of stuff. I think there's a lot of good stuff and a lot of really thoughtful updates put into iOS 15, both some of some of which that I was expecting some of which I saw it and I was like, Oh, that's an interesting idea. I didn't think they would do that, like the FaceTime stuff. Matter of fact, let's start with the FaceTime stuff. So FaceTime got a bunch of like smaller things and then a couple big things. Yeah, I think one was like spatial audio added to it. So you can kind of make it feel like you're more in the room, I guess, with people.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Sounds fine. Sounded like one of those things that's like kind of cool, but you won't really use too much. Yeah, it'll also have portrait mode so you can turn on blurring your background, which we've seen in others like Zoom. You can just blur your background. I felt in the actual announcement announcement the example they were using like the edge detection wasn't that great her like whole shoulder was kind of like weirdly i don't know it was a little off i have i have never seen good live video portrait yeah exactly so i'm not shocked that it doesn't look that great
Starting point is 00:22:03 if you have you ever tried zoom's automatic background blur is hilariously bad like you it'll it'll generally work because it'll cut you out because you can see your outline but like you'll turn your head to the side and it'll just leave like a blotch that's not blurred out that's the thing is like zoom's i didn't know they had that but it makes sense because they have to like replace background but generally when you're replacing the background you kind of understand this is already a meme and I'm okay with moving my arm and it just appearing out of the beach at the like sunset I have set behind me.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So yeah, I'm not expecting that to be great. I don't expect many people to use it really either. There's a couple other features that I think I'll tie in that I could see people using all at once. But yeah, it's just kind of like a thing you can turn on if you want to. SharePlay. This is a cool one to me.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I did think this was cool. So with SharePlay, you know how you can screen share inside of Zoom or screen share inside of Google Meet or screen share inside of Skype or screen share inside of Teams or screen share inside of whatever you're using. Instead of just screen sharing something,
Starting point is 00:23:05 you can actually all pull up the same content at once by using SharePlay. So if you have Apple Music or a TV show or Apple TV or something like that, or since there's an API now, any one of the supporting services, you can all be watching the same content at once. I say all because you could have a multi-person FaceTime.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And it'll all be synced up for all of you. So you know how people do this thing where they'll FaceTime each other and then watch a movie at the same time and hit play? I've done it with my family and stuff, especially during the pandemic. You were making up ways to do things with people. Yeah. Now you can watch the movie on your phone or watch it on your Apple TV while you're FaceTiming. And so you'll have the same playback controls and you'll be able to fast forward and pause
Starting point is 00:23:49 for everyone at the same time and everything stays in sync. That's pretty cool. I think that's really neat. That's pretty cool. You can screen share now inside of FaceTime as well, which is obviously very useful for family tech support. Shout out to fellow family tech support. I'm with you guys.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I understand the struggle is real, but now you can screen share, so you can show people how to do things, which is cool. And now also, FaceTime is available for Android. That's definitely going to be the clip title for 100%. Yeah, kind of, barely. FaceTime links, I guess, is the easier way.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Honestly, I can say that FaceTime is available for Android. It will functionally do almost all the same stuff. You can't initiate a FaceTime call, I guess, is the easier way. Honestly, I think I can say that FaceTime is available for Android. It'll functionally do almost all the same stuff. You can't initiate a FaceTime call from Android, but if you start a FaceTime call or schedule a FaceTime call, you can send people a link to that FaceTime call where they can join. If they open it on their iPhone, it'll open in FaceTime. If they open it on the web from their Android phone or from their Windows desktop for example they can
Starting point is 00:24:46 still join the facetime call yeah so you can join literally a facetime from android and they use the ugliest possible android phone in their little facetime demo on stage and on their website to this day i don't know what phone that's supposed to be but hey you can now hop on a facetime on android which is i never thought I'd be able to say that yeah right I wasn't expecting that it is like a kind of side way of doing it like it's not actually FaceTime for Android but the fact that you can still do it and honestly most people who are like having FaceTime calls and trying to get a relative or a friend on it like sending them the link is probably the easiest way of doing it rather than making them download FaceTime and everything so I mean there's never going to be a FaceTime
Starting point is 00:25:27 app for Android that's never going to happen yeah but if there was like that one family member who has an Android phone who's been left out of all the holiday group FaceTimes because he doesn't have a Mac or whatever well now he's in now they're in now they can uh like they can join the FaceTime as well which is exciting but to me all this stuff together feels like apple sort of responding to how often we see this like work from home type culture or basically everyone doing everything virtually now we're like people are very familiar with zoom like zoom didn't really have a place in everyday life until 2020 yeah and now everyone knows how to Zoom. And so as long as
Starting point is 00:26:05 people all know how to Zoom, Apple might as well just build in a bunch of those features into their video chat app so you can just keep using FaceTime when you want to do that sort of stuff. Yeah. And I think FaceTime is way easier for the consumer and everything. Zoom has a phone app, right? But it's like, I've never used it. FaceTime is that quick, easy, consumer-based. And people are using Zoom for that now. And I think in the future when we're not always stuck at home, but maybe one of your friends is home and one of your friends is out, phone is going to be the way to do that. And FaceTime is going to be much, much easier.
Starting point is 00:26:37 So it makes total sense. I wonder if they're going to start doing Apple briefings and FaceTime. For those, this is such an inside thing, but like briefings right now are all happening virtually and they'll do it in like Zoom or Microsoft Teams maybe. Or WebEx. Or WebEx and
Starting point is 00:26:54 I don't know. They just do FaceTimes now. Group FaceTimes. They wanted to. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it just to keep in the Apple ecosystem, but it still seems a little. That would be hard when there's multiple people on it. I mean, they have multiple people FaceTimes. How many are generally in a briefing for Apple?
Starting point is 00:27:12 It wildly varies. It could be five. It could be 25. Because like 25 would be very hard to keep track of. Everybody meet yourselves. All right, this next feature, this is actually, I think this is my favorite feature in iOS 15. So what is it called, actually?
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's called Live Type? That's not what it's called. Live Text. Let me see if I can figure it out. I think it's called Live Text. Live Text sounds okay. Yeah, okay. So inside now of Photos in iOS 15, it will, and actually in the viewfinder of the camera,
Starting point is 00:27:40 you'll be able to copy and paste and select and do things with text, whether it's actual text, like you pointed at a document or a label or handwritten text. If you see something on a whiteboard or on a we have a whiteboard table, so a whiteboard table, you can yeah, you can literally point your camera at it, take a photo. And then on that photo itself, you can just copy. You can just hold down long, press the text and you can copy and paste it. You can look it up with Siri. You can translate it if it's a different language.
Starting point is 00:28:10 If it's a phone number, yeah, you can literally just copy it and tap it and call the phone number right away from the gallery. Pretty sweet. As I mentioned in our last video, that is exactly what Google Lens does. Like, everything that does, Google Lens has already been doing.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But I really like that it's just one less step and one step closer to being easily accessible by regular people. Where it kind of feels a little bit like magic where if you take a picture of some building somewhere and it happens to have a name and a phone number on it, it would be like trying to explain to your parents like, oh no, you can't actually just like grab the phone number from that building.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You'll have to like remember it and switch over to the dialer. Yeah. And they'll just be like, why can't I just like press the phone number in the picture? Well, now you can. Yeah. Like you can just press the phone number in the picture and it'll just work. I thought that was really smart. Do you know what would be sweet if they could figure out what to do?
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm just thinking of this now. How could that really, really help my everyday life? If I am on a busy city street and I see a parking sign, I want it to be able to look at that parking sign and just say, yes, you can park right now. Oh my God. Or no, you can't park. So I don't have to decipher the freaking national treasure code on it that is impossible to figure out.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like, yes, I can right now. I think you might have just had a great app idea. Can I park here? I don't, not even, like, someone take it. I don't even care about, if that makes a billion dollars, someone just please develop that app because it would save so many people. There's probably some city lobbyists who wouldn't like that because you're just destroying city revenue but send part of the revenue to the city i don't care like if they make money from tickets which is like such a dumb way
Starting point is 00:29:54 of like i get that you have to make money but honestly just the fact that people can't park in certain places if you live in a city or anywhere near a city you're familiar with this this is probably very useful yeah just let me point it at even i just want to say yes or no maybe not even a sign just look at where i'm gps located right now decide based on the signs of like people have taken signed pictures near here in the past look at those pieces of information and then tell me if where i'm sitting right now can i park here yeah and how long can i be when i have to be out yeah yes that is a great app idea i'll take one percent i don't even care i thought of it and you're taking a percent i'm not even taking your i just named it i just named it that's all i did can i park here oh can i park here yeah it's gonna be like the
Starting point is 00:30:40 not hot the hot dog app from uh silicon valley it just says yes no yes or no yeah at a time i love that all right but yeah no that's that's super useful i i think google lens because right now in an android phone you can open up google lens or or in the viewfinder you can hit the lens button and you can point it at stuff and use visual lookup and that's been better for me i've only had the beta ios 15 developer beta for a day and i've tried it on some things it can sort of try dog breeds and cat breeds we tried mac which is like the hardest one possible because we don't even know it but um google lens this is a little gripe off of wwdc i just found out yesterday i think david showed us if you long press in the regular camera shutter, it'll take the picture and then do lens on it, correct?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Or I think you long press the viewfinder without the shutter button. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. In the viewfinder. Yeah, yeah. You long press there and it'll bring it up. I've always went to the lens thing and then had to like scan a QR code or something like that, which I think is really dumb that it's not in the default. So if anyone out there is like me and needs a quicker way to
Starting point is 00:31:50 do lens, there it is. I always wonder why QR codes aren't bigger in the US. And I think it's taken way too long to make it a quick one to like punch of getting it. So I think this will hopefully help word. But there you go. AI can read text and photos, can decide what's in a photo and look it up for you. Just sort of makes photos live, basically, which is pretty useful.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think it's pretty useful. It's very useful. That was my favorite feature in iOS 15, but there is more. There are some small things like you can now use the wallet app to store your ID as a like a photo ID or driver's license. I actually think that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Well, it's yeah, it's for airports, I think right now, or that's where they'll implement it first. But one thing I always do when I go to the airport is I want to take my wallet and my keys out of my pockets and put them in my bag. So on the plane, it doesn't fall out because like when you're traveling state to state that's the worst place to lose wallet and keys but i have to keep my wallet in my pocket until i get past security so if i can just pack it when i want to and still be able to make it through security i think that would be really nice yeah hopefully it works they say it'll work with the tsa and the tsa understands what's going on yeah i think it's participating states right now, or will be participating states, so we'll see. We'll see. We shall see. But I look forward to that.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And there's a couple other small things, like Safari has a sort of a new look to it. There's tab groups. A bunch of these things to me were like, I'm never going to use them, but they're sort of tucked away enough that I never have to care about them, which is fine. So it just adds features for the sake of having some new features. And if never have to care about them, which is fine. So it
Starting point is 00:33:25 just adds features for the sake of having some new features. And if you ever want to use them, cool. I never use tab groups, so I'm never going to decide to start using them on my phone. But they exist now, so that's cool. Are we like, well, first sticking on iOS with tab groups, they did move them to the bottom of the screen. So at least they're easier to touch. I do think this is something Android did recently, or maybe it's just, I use the Firefox browser, or no, Chrome browser. Chrome browser, yeah. Chrome has messed with this in the past.
Starting point is 00:33:52 They put the tab bar at the bottom in one of their betas and then moved it back to the top, and it never made it. That's weird. I still get tab, I can do tab groups on the bottom of Chrome. Okay, yeah. But I also do think part of the reason they did tab groups is because they at the same time changed they kind of move tabs up so now instead of having your like forward back
Starting point is 00:34:13 url uh what's what do you call that the url bar yeah navigation bar and then usually tabs are under that now it's like all on the same one so your url has to take up half of the top of your window and you have less room for tabs um so i'm assuming tab groups is part of that but it feels too much like a bookmark sidebar it does look like a bookmark bar yeah i don't think i would ever want that to be honest yeah but it's there it's a little it's a little refresh of safari which is neat um this also applies to the desktop which we we'll get to. But other than that, iOS basically just new notification stuff, which I thought was pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Now, I've always thought iOS notifications are bad, and they still kind of functionally are the same as they were, but they do have some sort of new organization priority happening here yeah so number one you can get a notification summary of all of your low profile low priority notifications at the end of the day which to me is a good idea but i just don't know exactly how it works like do apps does it just know which are the low priority ones is it only communication apps that will get through during the day and then all the things like your random weather notification or news notification or some random headline or a promo thing they'll just all show
Starting point is 00:35:34 up at the end of the day do app developers have to say that their app is a low priority notification or high priority like why would you ever pick your own if i'm a low priority yeah exactly if i'm an app developer i'm never gonna say my apps are low priority notifications so i don't know exactly how it works but i like the idea of at the end of the day not having like all the random news stuff for just like uh hey it's gonna be hot tomorrow like i'll i'll get the the majority of that stuff out the way just all at once then the other thing is focus modes. This was cool to me. This felt like almost like profiles kind of, not quite, but pretty close. So if you set them up, you'll see it's pretty cool. You can set a focus mode of like a personal versus work. We'll just use that as the
Starting point is 00:36:20 example. Yeah, that's the easiest example. Yeah, a sleep one or do not disturb entirely. But let's say you have a work focus mode. When you set up work focus mode, you can have it only send through notifications from your work apps and whatever contacts you want, probably only your work contacts. And then you can have certain home screens show up just for work and hide the ones that have the personal apps on them. And then it'll only trigger when you're at a certain location or during certain times of day. So you can have it only go nine to five or you can have it go when I am at this studio. It'll be in work mode. All of that is super cool.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And then when you're in work focus mode, when other people on iMessage try to message you, they will get this little away notification or this focus notification. So they'll know that your notifications aren't on because they're in work focus mode. And then they can send it through anyway if it's important. But that's pretty cool. That change gets distributed through all of your iCloud devices at once.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So if I have this work focus mode on my phone and I turn it on or it gets enabled when i'm at work now my watch now my ipad now my mac all of whatever devices i have in the ecosystem are all in work focus mode at once that is the next level cool part of this this feature where it's like your profile for all of your devices it's not just your iphone that i thought was pretty cool yeah i think i mean it's obviously Apple and integration between all their products is like what they do best. I'm also realizing as I'm looking through our notes, it's very hard to organize what we want to talk about because almost everything they announced was available on
Starting point is 00:37:56 everything else. So like we're talking about iOS and I've already talked about on Mac Safari and now we're talking about focus Focus which is available on like all of these different things so I mean it's a problem for us right now with notes but it's kind of the best thing about Apple. Yep. So I thought that was super cool. You can make custom profiles
Starting point is 00:38:17 so you can have a work one, you can have a personal one but maybe you also have a golf one where you have only certain people can contact you while you're golfing and only your golf apps can notify you about how How many golf one where you have only certain people can contact you while you're golfing and only your golf apps can notify you about how you're – How many golf apps do you have? I have like four, which is – Wait, what –
Starting point is 00:38:31 I don't know. Like score tracker, fitness. I have one to help book courses. It's called Golf Now. It'll tell you what courses are open with tee times near you. Are you ever booking a course while you're on a different course? No. Okay. But, you know, just leave you're on a different course? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:45 But, you know, just leave all the golf apps open just in case. I'm on the 18th hole. I'm like, I want to book another round right now. No, yeah, that's focus modes. That's probably the gist of it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Other than that, iOS is sort of just like a I think that's most of iOS, yeah. Fresh coat of paint, you know, bigger pictures, next to notifications is cool. All right, well, there's a lot to iOS,
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Starting point is 00:40:50 this was the thing that I think a lot of people had the same general consensus, which is, okay, you've done it. You've made the most powerful iPad possible. It has way more headroom than you can ever need. It has 16 gigs of RAM. The thing is crazy powerful, but I can still do exactly the same stuff as I could
Starting point is 00:41:08 with the last iPad. When are we going to get some sort of extra functionality to take advantage of this horsepower? So there's a lot of hype for this WWDC, specifically around iPad because of that. Right. Yeah. I feel like they did halfway what I was hoping,
Starting point is 00:41:30 which is they did make multitasking a little a little bit more intuitive and a little bit faster but they still it doesn't feel different and now we're talking on discord actually with renee uh we had a stages a channel stages event where we're talking about wwdc stuff and he brought up a really good point, which is I've been so iPad Pro, iPad Pro, iPad Pro for so long that I keep forgetting that, like, there's all the other iPads that also run iPadOS, and regular people don't really think too hard about that extra horsepower and extra functionality unlock because they want it to be a simple tablet, and it is.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And the second you add all that complexity to multitasking and slide over windows and file systems there that shows up on everyone else's ipads who doesn't really care about that sort of stuff so they do have this weird they never want to fork it i imagine there's never going to be separate software on the ipad pro no i don't think so but they do want to take advantage of, I imagine, all that horsepower. So, anyway, here's what we got. You can now do widgets on all of the home screens everywhere, and there's some new bigger widget formats, which I think are really cool.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I am planning a video on all of this, by the way, so we'll have our full thoughts and everything, but this is just the first impression. So widgets everywhere is cool. You can now build apps with Swift Playgrounds on the iPad, which is cool, and then test them on the iPad and demo them and run them on different resolutions and everything. I think you could probably build a calculator app on there if you wanted.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I think you could build a calculator app. Imagine that. Maybe even a weather app on the iPad. That would be pretty tight. And then, yes, there is a new multitasking UI. It's kind of hard to explain just with words, but if you've seen the videos with Keynote Demo, basically instead of just being all swipes,
Starting point is 00:43:13 you can do a lot of that same multi-window stuff with taps now because when a multi-window app shows up, you get three dots. You can tap it, move stuff over, create multi-window events more easily it definitely a little more intuitive because each of the little like taps that you would press show like a little graphic that kind of shows what it's doing so it's definitely easier to be like and not accidentally swipe stuff into who knows where and yeah yeah a lot of the questions i see about this are like well marquez what were you expecting like what did you actually want them to do? And the more I think about this, I'm like, I guess I do want, I don't want macOS on the
Starting point is 00:43:52 iPad, but I do want freeform windows. Like this slide over thing, I've never been into slide over apps, basically, which are these column apps that have their own floating area that they can multitask within on the side and then swipe away and hide. I've just never been into that. But I just want the ability to have like three windows open where I can do things in each of the three windows and resize them and full screen and then drag it over and move this thing. And I guess I just, I don't think we're ever going to get that on the iPad. If this is where they're at and this is the modification they're making with iOS, iPadOS 15, then If this is where they're at and this is the modification they're making with iPadOS 15,
Starting point is 00:44:26 then I don't think they're planning on free window movement on any iPad. So I think that is what it is. I'm not disappointed. I'm more just like, let me try this for a little bit. Let me get used to it and see if it helps at all.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But as far as using the horsepower of the M1, it doesn't seem like it added them. You're not touching the... It's going to be a while yeah i think people were expecting their minds to be blown and apple does that sometimes this just wasn't quite one of those uh yeah it's not gonna blow our minds right yeah that's totally fine but it was good i i'm gonna keep using it like i said i'm using the the developer previews right now for both ios 15 and ipad os 15 so i'm living that beta life right now that potentially brick your ipad life yeah we'll see we'll see how long it goes we'll see now for both iOS 15 and iPadOS 15. So I'm living that beta life right now. That potentially brick your iPad life?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how long it goes. We'll see how long it lasts. Then, I don't know. You're not a heavy Mac OS. I don't use almost any Mac stuff. Or I use my Mac Pro at work. I don't use iPhone. I don't use iPad.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I think both of them are great. I just don't use them. It's very strange. Me, all my points given here are all outsider perspective stuff. Yeah, I use a Mac pretty heavily, and the one thing about macOS Big Sur that I was really
Starting point is 00:45:40 getting annoyed with is notifications. Oh yeah, I can tell you. It's very annoying so i'm hoping that sort of stuff is fixed but this is the one beta i haven't switched over to yet but there is a new mac os and i keep forgetting the name monterey monterey monterey so it's m-o-n-t-e-r-e-y two e's yeah i spelled that wrong a hundred times in these notes um but it is a new version of mac os which again gets a little bit of a sleeter sleeker fresh coat of paint is it the same way spelled as like the cheese monterey jack and we have a cheese grater mac pro oh oh where's the tinfoil hats
Starting point is 00:46:19 where are they at i didn't even think about that we just got the confirmation monterey i didn't even think about that until just now but you're right so we got monterey cheese yesterday i pointed the uh the beta camera at the mac pro and asked siri what it was and it said this is either a cheese grater or a mac pro it Yeah. I love that it got it right and sort of, but still wasn't quite sure. Yeah, it gave me both. I wonder, did you try Google Lens? Google Lens said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Same thing. They both said Mac Pro first, but then also cheese grater, yeah. So I think it was a Google Images thing because on Google Images, there are some cheese graters that look exactly like the Mac Pro. Actually, has anyone made a cheese grater
Starting point is 00:47:02 that looks like a Mac Pro? That's a business idea right there. Do you know how many people would buy that? The thing is, people have literally grated cheese on Mac Pros. Yeah, so it sounds like it would work flawlessly. Flawlessly is a stretch. Just shop mkbhd.com. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Look out for it. Look, if we can charge $500 million for them like Apple does, then sure. No, it is definitely a refreshed version of the OS. Safari got the biggest change because it's got that like new sleeker look with the tabs at the top and that like bookmark looking thing on the side
Starting point is 00:47:36 with your tab groups, whatever. I'll give it a shot. I'm hoping for a little bit better notification support, a little bigger click area to get rid of things because the tiny X is really getting annoying. You do have a new Mac OS beta. A lot of good Maps features,
Starting point is 00:47:52 which again are across everything, which have a new Street View, Street View AR mode. A lot of these select cities will have these 3D models of landmarks in the cities, which are super detailed, and that's really cool. Like I said, a lot of the stuff is catching up to Google Maps.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It's still not Google Maps, though, so who cares? I mean, I care because competition is good, and even if you don't necessarily get harmed from using Google Maps if they're a monopoly, you still want to see a reason for them to get better. Google Maps, I feel like, hasn't gotten better. I appreciate Apple Maps being the meme. Yeah, like I feel like Apple Maps started off
Starting point is 00:48:27 as the one that obviously was awful because it had so many problems and all the headlines were hilarious about it. But now that it's getting better and more useful and usable, maybe it'll actually make Google Maps get better. True. So now that I really think about it though,
Starting point is 00:48:43 I could see it when cars start integrating CarPlay more and more. Like, I guess I could see like improving Apple Maps will just benefit the CarPlay experience. I think you said you can use Waze and Google Maps through CarPlay, but the more first party things you do, the better. So Android Auto will have its Google Maps and CarPlay will have Apple Maps and all that integration more and more will just make cars in the future way nicer with all that. Yeah, I'm a fan of that competition.
Starting point is 00:49:13 There was a bunch of other smaller stuff too. Just announced at WWDC in general because there's always a bunch of software announcements and things like that. What should we hit first? I mean, I think Universal control is like the coolest thing. Oh, yeah. I feel like we glossed over that.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Oh, God. It was so good. I think a perfect example of how cool that is was I was trying to explain to Claire what got announced at WWDC, and it's clearly not that interesting for non-tech people. And then I showed her a clip of universal control, and she was like, that was actually really cool. Yeah, it was super cool. All right, so for those of you who don't know or haven't seen,
Starting point is 00:49:50 God, all right, picture this. So Craig Federighi sits down. He's got a Mac, and he's got an iPad right next to it. He sets them up next to each other, and without any other setup, he moves the cursor over to the edge of the Mac, and it just knows that there's an iPad next to it. The iPad wakes up and goes, hey, is there a cursor here?
Starting point is 00:50:07 And you just immediately line the two up, and now you're just controlling the iPad with the cursor on the Mac. So it's not Sidecar, where you would be extending your Mac's display onto the iPad. You're just controlling the iPad UI now with the trackpad and whatever mouse and keyboard you're using on the Mac. That's cool right away. Just immediately knows where to go, no setup, lines everything up. Great. He brings another Mac in there. He sets them all three up next to each other. So now he's got a mouse and keyboard and three displays and it just keeps working seamlessly. That is an ecosystem flex right there. But what the coolest part of that is, is not just are you controlling everything,
Starting point is 00:50:45 you can now, which I'm assuming is almost just using a quicker version of like Air... I guess I'm confused a little about how this works, but he was dragging files from one to the other. He was dragging a photo file from the iPad and dropping it in like a PowerPoint on his Mac. Yes. Which is wild, but I guess at a certain point
Starting point is 00:51:06 with a file size, are you gonna start? Yeah, so this is a bunch of different things. This is Bluetooth, first of all, for proximity. So as soon as they know they're next to each other, they're on the same, they can Bluetooth connect to each other. You could already use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse on the iPad.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So this is just using your Mac as a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for the iPad. So this is just using your Mac as a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for your iPad. So that's cool. Then you get to that dragging a file from the iPad to the Mac. That's essentially AirDrop, which is Wi-Fi. So it's Wi-Fi direct, just going straight from one to the other,
Starting point is 00:51:40 transferring the file. So yes, that will still be slower if you have a huge file, but it's an image, so it was fine. Yeah, they used an image to make it a bit quicker but i could see that being so useful for people who if there's like artists who are drawing on their ipad with apple pencil but need to bring it into uh their like macbook or imac or something like that for whatever reason and that just seems really cool yeah that's the the thing about the iPad is at the very highest end of iPad use, I feel like all of those people have a Mac anyway. So even though I'm always over here like, oh, I want so much more out of this iPad.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's so powerful, but I want a file system. I want to do everything on the iPad. But at the end of the day, this feature makes it pretty obvious to me that it's going to continue to be great to have both an iPad and a Mac, which is music to Apple's ears, of course. Oh, yeah. But yes, there's a lot of people, even in our own studio, will like finish editing a thumbnail on the iPad.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And of course, now we want to put it on YouTube. So what do we do? We airdrop that file to the Mac so that we can put it on YouTube. Well, now we're just swiping over. Do you think you'll have to be logged in as the same iCloud account? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Okay. So it does kind of, I mean, AirDrop is still nice, but yeah. Yeah, in the studio, we will still be AirDropping between different iCloud accounts. But if you happen to have something you want to finish on the Mac, maybe you want to export it in a, since we have to crush the file size for YouTube or you want to do something like that, then you would just go to the Mac and then take care of it from there. But nevertheless, very cool demo, really cool feature. It's called Universal Control. Yeah, I think that was the coolest demo they did
Starting point is 00:53:11 of all of WWDC. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. That's a, you know what's funny about these presentations is like, I feel like there's three things that always happen during an Apple pre-recorded presentation. One is they have a super cool tech demo moment
Starting point is 00:53:28 where you go, oh, that was a really cool feature. Two is they have some kind of Easter egg, whether it's like when he was pointing the camera at the whiteboard, there was all this text on the whiteboard about the next version of AirPods and how they test them on dogs and call them AirBuds, I think he said, on the whiteboard, just little Easter eggs. There's always stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And three, there's always a memeable moment in every single one of these, whether it's Tim Cook literally ripping his face off or if it's Craig Federighi and WWDC jumping through the hole in the ground to land in the privacy section under the theater. There's just some moment where they create, where they're like, all right, this is the meme one. All right, we're shooting the meme now. Okay, great. Like they always just, they nail it.
Starting point is 00:54:10 They just set it up. So yeah, they're consistent with it, but we did get some cool tech demos out of that. There's some other stuff. I mean, watchOS 8, a couple small things with HomeKit. You get, you know, intercom on your watch now. You get to this mindfulness app where it'll tell you to breathe and relax, kind of like the OnePlus Stress app.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I'm never going to use this. And the new health feature was like a balance kind of thing, like to help understand if people are at a fall risk. Actually, we didn't see the – and someone actually DMed me, actually. We talked about it on a previous episode. But remember we were talking about like blood glucose and stuff like that? Yeah. We didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Did not see that. So I guess that might be a hardware change. So maybe we wouldn't have expected it. But yeah, there was small health updates to it. Nothing too exciting. I did think iCloud Plus was pretty cool. Yeah. So iCloud Plus did have, I think, probably
Starting point is 00:55:06 two main features that were new and pretty cool. One is, oh, I want to get the name right. It's like dual relay something. Private relay. So it's called private relay. It's not quite a VPN, but it is effectively the same
Starting point is 00:55:21 thing as far as completely shielding your information from your ISP and from everyone else. You can't like region gate like by using a server in a different region. So you can't like unlock Netflix France or whatever from this service. But you can use this private relay for complete privacy as far as online browsing. So that's cool. So then the other one was called it's mail privacy protection. Now I don't use the stock mail app on a Mac.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I haven't in years. But if you do and you have iCloud Plus, Mail Privacy Protection will basically look at these email, you'll get an email, like an ad or something like that, and you can just like close the email and archive it and delete it or whatever. But there are these invisible pixels inside of these emails where they will respond and send back information to
Starting point is 00:56:06 the sender of the email about like when you opened it whether or not you opened it at all if you're a real person or not and all these things can be used to track you and so it'll just take the hit for you and not it'll shield your location and who you are from those who are sending the emails so i guess they'll start reporting 100 open rates on those who are sending the emails. So I guess they'll start reporting 100% open rates on people who are using iCloud Plus because it'll always just be taking that hit for you. But that I thought was pretty solid. I don't, like I said, use that app right now, but it's a good idea. It's a good feature.
Starting point is 00:56:37 A lot of privacy feature focus stuff here. And kind of proof that they are really into privacy because this is coming at no additional price to on top of current iCloud paid users. Yeah. So that's kind of awesome. Putting their money where their mouth is. I like it. Wow. We talked about a lot today. Yeah. There's not much more.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I wanted to mention one more feature on the watch. Live photo watch face. What was that? That was, yeah, that was weird. I think it's just portrait mode where if you take a portrait mode photo, it does have the depth information
Starting point is 00:57:11 to separate the subject from the background. And so then you can set that photo as your watch face. Apparently the number one watch face is photos. People just set a photo as their watch face. I didn't know this. I've never had a photo as my watch face. It'd be cool if you could set a photo and then use parts of the photo
Starting point is 00:57:27 to be the arms as the clock moving around. That might be the next step. That would be cool. But as of right now, it'll just overlap the subject a little bit in front of the time and the background behind the time. Didn't they do some weird thing where they scrolled on it and the face got really big?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah, they zoomed in a bit and the subject swelled up a little bit in front of the background that was just a weird demo that was the worst demo but like i say that because i don't care about photos as watch faces at all but i'm still kind of shocked that photos are the number one watch face yeah that that that was the last impression i got out of that is i didn't realize apparently most people are maybe it's not number one by a mile but a lot of people are using pictures as their watch face it it makes me wonder because I've always disliked the apple watch because of how much it doesn't look like
Starting point is 00:58:13 a watch but if people are putting real photos as watch faces oh but could it also be people is this just a weird way to get like a custom watch too? If you're uploading a quote-unquote photo, which is a design maybe you made. I don't think people are getting that crazy. I think they're just uploading a picture they like or a picture they took. Does it still show minute and hour hands when you do a custom photo one
Starting point is 00:58:36 or does it just do a digital time? Either one, whichever you want. I could see people probably making some third-party workaround that adds into the statistic that it is a photo as a... I think you're right, but when you think of the average everyday person, it's just a photo on their phone. Which makes me feel like the Apple Watch is less of a traditional watch anymore and more of a wrist tech.
Starting point is 00:59:01 There's a lot of people my age and younger who have never owned a watch until the Apple Watch, and it their first watch so when they say when you say traditional watch they're like i don't want a traditional watch i just have this thing that i got when i was 14 and it's what i think a watch is and it's it's not like the main use of it isn't telling time anymore adam was just on the android central podcast i was listening to the other day and they were talking about what their favorite part of watches were and someone was like no one's mentioned time like time isn't the main thing for the watch at all it's more like a it's a good traditional accessory that now is a place to put tech in you know it's funny i think i still check the time on my phone i'm pretty sure i still check the time on my phone i just look
Starting point is 00:59:41 it's just a glance i can't even like laugh at it i only wear my watch when i'm doing like hiking or exercise or something like climbing so like i'm still so in the habit of checking my phone that i do do the same thing but i would like to think if i wore a watch 24 7 i would start checking the watch but we'll see adam has the we should end this before he's a big watch guy and he's giving us the most disconcerting look right now that's so funny all right well we've talked about pretty much everything there is on the last this is all literally from a two-hour apple presentation so obviously there's a lot more to it we have videos in the works about a lot of this stuff definitely check those out on the
Starting point is 01:00:19 channel when they come out but it's wwdc week, not bad. You guys probably already know, by the time we're recording this, Tesla's Plaid event will also happen. We're recording this before the event, then Tesla's Plaid event happens, then this gets published. So we know nothing about it, but it's going to happen between now and the next release.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So maybe the next episode we'll have more to say about that. They're definitely, well, I deleted like three pages worth of stuff just based on the Elon tweet. So there's plenty to talk about. Yeah, 5 Plus getting canceled, all this weird stuff going on. We didn't want to release it when like hours later or the event would have happened and then ours would have come out a couple hours later and then it just would have been all over the place.
Starting point is 01:01:02 So next week, expect a lot of Tesla talk. But until then, this has been Apple Week here at MKBHQ. Thanks for tuning in. I am KBHT. I am KBHT. Thanks for tuning in. Stay tuned for the rest of the videos, and we'll catch you guys in the next one.
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