Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Unpacking Galaxy Unpacked 2024!

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David go over a few quick news stories including YouTube adding an audio eraser feature, the CMF Phone 1, and Spotify adding comments to podcasts, but most of the episode is about all of the new Samsung devices that were just announced! They talk about all the new devices and even unbox all of the gadgets live on the pod. Of course, we wrap it all up with some trivia. Hope you enjoy! Links:  MKBHD Samsung Devices Impressions: https://bit.ly/3S3zAy5 MKBHD CMF Phone: https://bit.ly/3S4HdnU Android Authority Pixel 9 Fingerprint Sensor: https://bit.ly/4cXDPDG YouTube Eraser Tool: https://tcrn.ch/4cWuonN Spotify Podcast Comments: https://bit.ly/4cNSktA Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Shop products mentioned: Galaxy Fold6: https://geni.us/BcPm Galaxy Flip6: https://geni.us/BVt9ur Galaxy Ring: https://geni.us/87sh Galaxy Watch Ultra: https://geni.us/wQHfS4 Galaxy Watch7: https://geni.us/qhlC Galaxy Buds 3 Pro: https://geni.us/Z6oNEXA Galaxy Buds 3: https://geni.us/BQIUGS Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, David. Now we're talking. What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I'm David.

And we had some stuff happen this week. We had an event. We had a Samsung event that we can talk about, unpacking all of the unpacked things. That was bad. I feel like we made that joke every six months. It's evergreen. I can't help myself. Pixel 9 rumors, CMF phone,

final thoughts, that $200 Android phone that came out, and some comments on Spotify podcasts. Yeah. Some fun variety. We have comments on Spotify podcasts, or there are comments on both. We have comments on the comments on Spotify podcasts. That's right.

Wow, good job talking. This is an all-time intro. But first thing on the list I have here is YouTube Eraser Tool for Copyrighted Music. I want to test this because I'm suspicious of it working well, but I want it to. I think the announcement of this is suspicious of it working well as well. I'll just say what the announcement is, and then you can decide for yourself if you think it's going to work well or not. But I haven't tried it yet.

If you have copyrighted music in a video, you can just mute that section of the video or just mute the whole video to maintain normal status of the video. Which is lame. It kind of sucks because if it's the intro, for example, and you talk over the end of the music you just have to mute that section yeah so if it's the first 20 seconds it's just completely blank and then it just suddenly has audio again and that's the

solution that's been available right now this new tool is supposed to be able to use AI you can see where this is going, to just remove the music itself from the video and leave everything else. So if you had sound effects, if you had other noises like your voice, it would stay in the video. I think it should be able to work, but

I'm highly suspicious. There might be some artifacting on the edges and stuff. Probably. The way it works is when you get that copyright claim in your YouTube studio, it'll say claim is from 0 seconds to 15 seconds, right? And I'll take that part of the video and have a select actions button so you can either get rid of the song, you can replace the song with something from YouTube's copyright-free library.

You can just cut the segment out. I mean, it's better than nothing if it's dead quiet that's true or you can mute all sounds in that segment yeah they also though say that like in the announcement they were basically like you can just the reason i cut the segment out or mute all sounds is if it doesn't work that well yeah that's That's why. I'm also like wary of it working well because do you know the blur feature that they have? Boy, do I. The blur feature for us has gone extremely poorly. If anyone wants to go back and look at the ROG 6 phone review,

I believe it is. There was a part in it where you had to blur out the- Email address or- It was a calendar event, I think. If you go back now, that blur has like spread to other parts of the video. What? Where rather than just that, there is now a floating blur around random parts of the video. Someone, Mark, has his face.

It's like an infection. It literally is like infected. Yeah, you're supposed to be able to do a tracking blur. Like the tool is actually pretty good in YouTube. You're like, here's the box. You draw the box, and it's like, track it from this time to this time, and then it would seem to work, and then you hit save, and then YouTube processes it, and then

you come back a few hours later, and it's like, here's the tracked blur. And sometimes it works. Sometimes it tracks the wrong thing, it tracks outside of the times you suggested, it's all over the rest of the video. It's going on for almost a full minute in this video oh my god yeah that's just what it does it just like oh my god and when you first did it it was perfect it worked it was just like covering your face everyone go watch the rg phone 6 review because this is so

funny it's so if this is what happens who are we to say that it's not gonna like take out how is it this was correct at first and now it's just completely changed and now it goes on for a full minute i don't know it just blurs the entire phone we haven't even got to the part that it's supposed to be blurring oh my gosh um but yeah so you should say that by new comments and see if anyone's no no they do this happened because of... That's so funny. It was on Reddit one day and I saw it from a few months old. And yeah, now there are a ton of comments like,

why is part of the screen blurred? And then more people talk about it later. But who's to say now the music isn't going to cut off at 15 seconds first? And then next thing we know, there's just going to be like... The whole video is silent. The whole video is silent? Or you replace it with the YouTube library and now it's just going throughout the entire thing? know, there's just going to be like... The whole video is silent. The whole video is silent? Where you replace it with the YouTube library and now it's just going throughout the entire thing?

The noises, yeah. We'll see. I have faith. You have faith? I do. Do you think the technology is there? I think the technology is there. Do I think the technology is there?

Absolutely. Do I think YouTube possesses it in their arsenal? Time will tell but like i just set up a little a little demonstration here on my computer like if i were to play and this is not youtube's tool this is these are ellis's tools uh but if i were to play like others aren't i know it's a weird question but stick with me dialogue and music together you know what i mean sorry i was kind of loud i'm gonna turn that down a little bit. I was going to say, I know my headphones are hot, but wow. But I believe I can take out almost all the dialogue pretty easily. Wait, why is there someone just gurgling?

Because it's not perfect. You know what I mean? And then vice versa. Oh, man. Is the same true with speakers? Well, it could take out 90 percent of the music so that's the artifact sound bang and olufsen explore it's not the same size about the same weight but totally so it's not okay perfect i like also remember that how well it'll go well also remember this

is this is real-time processing this is not render ahead of time so if it did that though and then yeah did put the youtube copyright free music on it, even though that music's not going to be great, if that music can cover some of the little artifacts and not perfectness of it, it'll be way better. Wait, can you now take that and only take out the audio from that? Or the dialogue gurgling? Never mind.

We're way too deep in an episode already. Can you be like this? Yeah. Yeah! Now do that a thousand more times and we've got a studio video. Bangers only. If anyone's curious,

the plugin I was using is called Extract Dialogue by Akon Digital. Akon. They do everything. I love Akon. Digital. Akon. They do everything. I love Akon. Yeah. Akon big music. Anyway.

Okay. Next thing on the list. I can't believe nobody picked up on that. Akon. Yeah. I just can't remember a single song that he did. Beautiful Girls? He's the featured verse on Gwen Stefani's, what's that name of that song that's every acon song

you know that one you know the acon one it's the one about about breaking the law oh smack that every yeah that's an that's the big one sweet escape sweet escape by gwen stefani has an acon verse sweet beautiful is that not the right one oh that's a different sorry okay i don't know no that's someone sorry that's someone i messed that one up sean kingston sorry okay speaking of okay this is a challenging one speaking of things that are um speaking of things that are where you thought they would be that didn't work at all I'm gonna have to try that one again

later but hey speaking of things that you cover up like the music that you stole crimes crimes pixel 9 is rumored to finally get the ultrasonic fingerprint reader

finally i found this funny because we talked about this last week of like one of the things on our wish list was either top of the line ultrasonic fingerprint sensors or physical fingerprint sensors we don't want this in the middle crap and it looks like we might be getting that for the pixel um i agree i just want to point out that samsung used the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor in the galaxy s10 and you know it's funny and nobody ever does it there's a lot of things that samsung has been doing for many years in a row unchanged on our last few phones that are just fine that are still totally fine the ultrasonic fingerprint reader is one of them yeah it's

fine it's quick it works with water and conditions like it'sasonic fingerprint reader is one of them. It's fine. It's quick. It seems to work in most conditions. It's one of those things. That's fine. Please bring to the Pixel. It's just crazy that it's taken this long to get to other phones. Hopefully they're using the bigger Qualcomm one that came out a few years ago.

They upgraded it. So you have more spot to put your finger on in the phone. Something else reading this article that I don't think we've talked about, and David seemed to know a little bit when I asked him about it, but there's supposed to be three different Pixel 9s this year. Yeah, like an Ultra, but not called the Ultra. Well, so I think it's a little different. From what I read from this article was there's a Pixel 9, Pixel 9 Pro, and Pixel 9 Pro XL.

But the Pixel 9 Pro XL would just be like what the Pixel 8 Pro was. And rather, the Pixel 9 Pro would be the same size as the regular Pixel 9, but getting the extra features like the third camera. And I'm guessing like higher refresh rate. So it's just not a bigger screen and battery. It's all the features of the Pro pro but in the smaller form factor and okay you'll also have the pixel 9 pro fold which is just the next fold with better naming worse naming worse naming well okay because we had pixel fold so is the pixel pro fold gonna be better than a regular pixel fold or is that just what we're calling the fold we're just calling the fold that now because it's expensive yeah okay just because it's expensive

okay marketing and then there's gonna be an a so then we're gonna have five different pixels okay this is my gripe about this we're gonna put the folds number to match with everything else but are we still gonna be a whole ass number behind on the a well we're like six months we already have the a but we will be six months behind for sure yeah which is dumb yeah i imagine they're worried that they wouldn't sell enough of the pro models if they launched the cheap model with the pro models because a lot of the time it's like it's like the 8a is very very similar to the 8 yeah very very very similar so i think that after six months or so go by they're like all right now will people will buy the cheaper model i think my gripe is just like in the calendar year there's an eight

and a nine coming out yeah where like i would love to see in the calendar year the numbers match up. I don't know why that makes me sad. I agree. I'm excited for Pixel 9 Pro, the smaller, better feature version. That sounds great. If it's exactly the way you're describing it, it's just all the Pro features but not bigger. But not a huge screen, yeah. Yeah, the thing is it's already big.

Yeah. But it's not going to be even bigger. That's true. I mean, the rumors are that the it's not going to be even bigger. That's true. You know? Yeah. I mean, the rumors are that the new iPhones are going to be even larger. Isn't there supposed to be a thin also? Or slim?

That's going to be the 17, I believe. Slim. Because they have a new battery technology. Slim, not small, Ellis. Calm down. Why? Why? Yeah.

Apparently, all of the Apple products are going to get like a thinness downgrade because for some reason every time we invent new battery technology that holds more power in a slimmer profile instead of just giving us better battery life they're always like we can make it thinner with the same battery life which is yes not what anybody wants. But it's so much more appealing. Is it? To look at. It makes a better ad. Bro.

It makes a better poster. This MacBook Pro, the thick boy, is the best thing they've ever done. Making it thicker. No, I agree. I'm fully on your side. I'm just saying, if you're a company that needs to make a few headlines, or make a few posters or billboards. But are we at the part of thinness becoming so minute?

Like this is like DxOMark's getting one more better score every year. Like it runs out and now nobody talks about DxOMark anymore. Are we that much more interesting about 0.1 millimeters thinner? We were for the iPad. I mean, if they are making it significantly thinner that's sexier than significantly more battery life like can you make a poster is it is it i feel like i yeah but for like impressing right armies yeah what really i think saying two day battery life versus yeah 1.5 millimeter versus 1.4 millimeter it's not the the millimeter number. It's just look at this razor thin thing.

That's true. But see, here's the thing. It's like if we just keep making it thinner and thinner. Crumple phone. Eventually it becomes a knife. And then we have to be worried. A razor? Yeah.

You said razor thin, but it's like, where does it end? Yeah. I do think that the regular consumer, I'm walking into a carrier store and buying the newest version of the thing and I didn't do any research beforehand. People, which is probably like 85% of consumers, are more drawn to the fact

that it looks a little bit different than the fact that it has better battery life because they probably don't even know that. But can you just make, okay. You know know remember the duracell phone yeah that was like 20 000 20 000 million hours or something and it was like this thick yeah and like couldn't even fit in your pocket it's like that eraser if they could make that battery capacity but in the size of like a regular phone or slightly bigger than a regular

phone that would be sick or that phone but like a hundred thousand billion hours let's talk about that charge my car yeah charge reverse wireless charging a kilowatt in your phone yeah wouldn't it be epic if you never had to charge your phone it's i agree but also when you like think of like movies and like futuristic tech you never hear anyone go like oh yeah i bet those things have infinite battery life. It's more just, Oh, it's transparent.

So thin. It's basically see-through. It's like a piece of paper with a computer in it. Cause they do a photosynthesis to get power. Yeah. Yeah. We're supposed to ignore the power part. Yeah.

Yeah. Can I ask you guys a question as the real experts in the room here? No. All right. Who are you talking to? All three of you. And, uh, but I feel like you have, so in, in, in sound, in the room here? No. All right, let's move on. Who are you talking to? All three of you. Oh.

But I feel like you have, so in sound, there's this scientifically documented phenomenon where the louder people hear something, the more likely they are to enjoy it, regardless of the actual content of the thing. And I'm curious if you guys think there's a smartphone equivalent. Like if someone who has never seen

a particular device before just holds it in their hand is there a particular facet that just makes their brain go this is good there's like three or four of those weight for sure weight weight up weight down weight up heavy good there is a tipping point but generally heavier feels more premium premium i think that's showing a lot of things i think think camping equipment also gets to this point where things get so good and expensive, they're supposed to be light, and those things feel cheap because they're lighter.

Yeah, when they manufacture really expensive, ultra-thin material, you're like, I could rip right through this, even though you can't. Soccer cleats, the more you pay, the less material you get, which is really funny. The size of the screen, generally. And the brightness, I feel like. Yeah, and the brightness of the screen.

So if you're able to give someone a big, bright screen, it feels like you're getting good instead of small, dim screen bad. Which I think is really easy because most people are walking into that Verizon store with their own phone that is destroyed, and they're like, this looks bad. And there's screen protectors bubbly and half falling off. They look at that, and they're like, wow. This is very good. I get good. Good product. But is thinness one of those things do you think i think when you're looking

at it not holding it yeah visually i think though that's my argument with this is i think thinness is one i think the the what we're doing to thinness right now is so minuscule that i don't think someone picking it up is gonna be like this is that said that much thinner when you pick up the new ipad that everyone is like wow this is thin really i don't think the average person would know i don't know i think i think this is a video i think if we get like 10 people who just do not care about smartphones and just start handing them phones and be like you know like, like John Morris, we get 10 seconds with them, you know, just be like,

John Morris. It did something really interesting along this line. Back when the iPhone promotion 10 R came out. No, with the, like, remember the like low PPI screen. Yeah.

And he put two next to each other. I don't know. He put it on. It was like, this is the new iPhone. What do you think? And everyone's like, this looks so good.

But everyone online was like, it's 348 PPI. That's such a crappy screen and uh yeah good video nerds i do have lots of video ideas of like man on the street style handing a person in new york city a piece of tech and being like and not even saying anything just being like what do you think notice anything yeah because i i have my theories about whether or not people notice high refresh rate but every time i think think of doing one of those videos, I think someone would just grab it and run away. I was just going to say, that video is not going to work when it's just four people stealing phones. If you do it, you have to wear the Dyson headphones and the Vision Pro at the same time. Well, then no one's going to follow up to me.

Touch these pieces of technology. Give me your thoughts. up to me. Touch these pieces of technology. Give me your thoughts. Yeah. We'll figure out a way to do it eventually. Speaking of really expensive phones. Not this. Yeah, not this one, baby.

Oh, that's a good style of segue. Speaking of A, not that. The CMF phone is out. We were talking about this last week the cmf one by nothing two weeks ago it's kind of confusing yes by nothing it's confusing how we've covered this we talked about it two weeks ago because there was supposed to be the announcement of it and then we recorded last week's episode on tuesday and then wednesday cmf was just like let's show everyone it so we

didn't get to talk about it at all and then we did our whole video so that's now out go watch it on the main channel but we have some last thoughts and also like I took down some things people were saying in the comments that we can final thoughts it out you mean wrote down we didn't take

down your comments we took them down I delete comments every day it's my favorite part of the day. He's lying. I do not have that power. I guess I'll just start with high-level thoughts on it. I think it's a pretty interesting phone and a possibly pretty compelling phone for a lot of people.

It is a big phone, big bright screen. Big, bright, good, yes. It's a $200 phone, and it's basically it's giving you like some basic specs and a plastic build and a replaceable back and a small accessory ecosystem

that could possibly grow and that's unique that's like pretty interesting I do really wish since you can take the back off I wish they let you swap out the battery that's what most comments are saying that would have been a huge opportunity for them.

I wonder why they didn't do that. I've got to assume that just like... Because they all knew that. They used to do it all the time, but no one makes batteries like that anymore, so it probably... But you can buy the battery from the manufacturer to glue into the phone.

Yeah, but it would have to be the different type of connection point on it, right? Like it used to be these pogo pins that slide in. I just miss having infinite battery life on my phone like you would wait until it was almost dead you just swap in a new one that you had fully charged and you put the dead one on the charger my galaxy nexus i would walk around with like four batteries on me like they should get on a plane what are those that's because the galaxy nexus needed that i had an extended battery on my Galaxy S3, actually. It had a thicker back,

and then you could buy a thick plastic back to it, so it made the phone thicker, but you had a bigger battery. So it was like, this is my mod for him. When we were doing research on this phone, I was looking into it, because we were talking about Moto Maker a little bit, which, for those that don't remember, when the Moto X came out,

which was an amazing phone made by Motorola, but it was basically a Google Play edition in a lot of ways, you were able to like choose all of these different things about the phone. They were, they made this whole big deal about how it was made and it was made locally in Texas. And you could change like all these different materials of the back of your phone. You could change like the colors of the buttons and all this different stuff and it would be shipped to you and it'd be a unique phone that was yours and i was doing research on this because we were comparing it to that um because you can swap out the back with the colorways and stuff the moto x was also 200 dollars but it was a flagship at the time which is crazy a I saw a diplomat crazy that was a nice factor

that was an amazing for factor I got my sister to buy it when it first came out because I was like I got to get everyone to buy this phone and the first day she dropped it in the toilet oh so they sent her another one next biggest comment I saw on our video was people very upset about lack of NFC on this. Yeah, I think it's a huge, huge mess. Depends on the market. So this phone is not coming to the US in the normal way. It's like, it's $200 through a beta program.

And I don't really know how much volume they're expecting there. But I think in the markets it's intended for, which is, I think, mostly Asia and India. And those markets, NFC is emerging in a way that it's like you expect most new phones to have nfc but not every phone has nfc but it's so cheap that it's like it might as well have nfc yeah and i don't know for this 200 phone it just feels like a i just wonder how much it costs to add in this i wonder that also because it's very easy for a lot of people to say like oh it's only a 10 cent piece or something like that. But then is that piece compatible with all the things that are already there?

How many different changes? I don't know enough about creating a phone, but I just feel like it's most likely a little bit more than just one piece. They already cut so many corners to make it $200. I think $200 is such a good price on this. Yeah. And also it has a removable back. So do they put the NFC in the removable back or on the back of also it has removable back so do they put the nfc in their movable back or on the back of the phone underneath the back underneath the back yeah i guess underneath it yeah then it's just kind of exposed i still think they could have done it it feels like a big miss

to me especially if you're planning on keeping the phone for a number of years like yes maybe nfc is like growing more in those markets but do you really want to be the person who in two years when all of a sudden everything has mobile payments and you don't have the thing they can do it yeah i have a stupid question which is other than payments and third-party nfc like chips and tags yeah what does it do nfc yeah because it doesn't do airdrop it doesn't do it doesn't do data transfer it's public transportation sometimes i would still consider that a payment yeah oh no i mean like a ticket i don't know if that's why i still put that like under payment sure sort of yeah like it's but that's a big just payments is huge super cool thing about nfc um when your phone dies your nfc tag can still your nfc chip in your phone can still work that is true so if you're like in the city and your phone's dead you can still tap to get onto the subway okay

because it like stores your card information in the strip passively yeah passively so but is there that much more that it it it does am i missing no i mean it i just think that's a big thing when nfc first started coming to phones they like samsung started marketing these nfc tags that they were selling that you could just like put all over your house and the idea was that you could like you could have it next to your door so you tap your phone to the tag next to your door and all your lights turn off like that kind of thing and i have like an nfc business card that has all my uh personal information on it shout out shen um but uh i i see what you're saying i i

don't even use like tap to pay on anything so i like it even i just i i genuinely i've tap to pay has exploded like worldwide though in the last couple of years but here's the thing so you asked in the video that you're not very familiar with the indian market and if anybody has any experiences um and someone on our discord i'm gonna try and pronounce his name but i'm definitely gonna get it wrong so i am sorry anutash a-n-u-t-o-s-h um they wrote a very nice long thing in our discord about just like in the indian market and the first thing is he says uh use of nfc here is pretty non-existent in india upi has become the primary method of transaction for anyone looking to do a digital transfer of any kind whether it's

merchant payment or paying bills what is upi i do not know is that like can someone look that up like a wechat kind of thing my guess you don't need any special parts for that and the transaction can be carried out securely in a normal smartphone in fact even future support even future phones support smaller upi transactions without being connected to the internet so nfc is no loss for a phone okay an indian instant payment system as well as protocol developed by the national payments corporation of india in 2016 but i still rotates interbank peer-to-peer person to merchant transactions but is that just like a protocol that you use in an app because

it's still easier to tap something but i will say like if upi is the main reason the main way that people pay there then i'm not gonna i'm not about to be like but you have to have nfc if nobody uses it so my preliminary research and i would love to hear from our indian viewers about how wrong i am but it seems like upi the thing we can close most closely compare it to in the united states is zell yeah like it's that's what it seems like it's operated by industry representatives entire banking organization and it provides secure transfer but over classic data as opposed to yeah yeah so is it just like in an app you can't like tap your phone to anything to get it to work it's integrated into lots of apps in the same way

that zelle is interesting maybe they have qr codes that you can like scan and then it automatically opens it up and you can send money that way maybe that's right yeah anyway this was interesting yeah that was i would like to learn more about upi thanks discord yeah thanks did they say anything else that was interesting in that post um i really liked how they talked about how like carl pay at one point a long time ago mentioned that two megapixel cameras and other phones were dumb and now they've got the like basically useless camera on this um yeah it's almost that's some other useful stuff uh the like basically useless camera on this um yeah it's almost that's some other useful stuff uh

that the initial price is an introductory uh offer price and that on flipkart it seems like it's gonna be 20k inr not 16k inr okay some of this i don't understand quite as much because i just uh yeah that's something that happens a lot with budget phones for the pr they will launch at a really awesome price, and then all of the videos that come out about it talk about the phone that cost this much, and then a month, two months go by, and then the price is higher. By the way, that's about $240 US.

The difference between those? Oh, not the difference, the total. Which is still in the same range, but obviously that's a move that they're making to make 20% more money. Next comment I saw the most of and at marquez you might have you have to clue us in on here did you bend the back case yes like usbc port when you were swirling it there was a bunch of controversy about that on twitter and people was like controversy they're just wondering are you

going to address this and i was like oh yeah i it's a plastic it's a cheap plastic back yeah but it happened when you were like spinning it to show it yeah if you put in your backpack if you put in your back pocket if you just carry it around it might get bent and i like physically bent some of them on camera as well if you do that too much the thinnest part is right at the usbc port where there's like a cutout in the middle so the top and bottom are the thinnest pieces of plastic yeah it's that's probably gonna get some uh some damage if you do that i yeah torquing it like that off of the phone torque torque not twerk off the phone is probably the best chance for that specific thin part because it doesn't have any support when it's on the phone it could happen on the phone it's probably less likely um yeah but

again yeah it's a cheap plastic back yeah i love the design of this thing it's like a 30 yeah i'm not if you i dig the back to explain how cheap it is you get another one for 30 more dollars can we talk about the knob yes yeah well you mean the thumb screw yeah we were trying to guess last time what it would do or what it was turns out the answer is it's a what is it it's a screw accessory mounting point i think deep down we all knew it was more like this look the buds that they released it is a knob because they have so on the buds they have a really interesting design where the case is sort of like squared off and they have a spinnable knob thing on the corner of the case and you control volume by controlling the case which is weird like you put the buds in your ears and then you use the like the case knob to turn

the volume up and down which is like cool interesting design however i often go on runs without my earbuds case because my running shorts like only have a very small pocket in them so pick the right volume before you yeah that seems not you can still do it from your phone though i'm guessing right um yeah good point fair point well that's also just why the knob on it is kind of weird what is the scenario where you're listening to bluetooth music where your phone's not close enough to press but the case is well if you went on a run without your yeah i don't know you probably can't store music on it anyway okay anyway the knob on the knob screw the screw on the phone yeah the thumb screw the thumb screw yeah um it attaches

a bunch of accessories as we said There's a wallet case accessory, which I imagine is supposed to be because it doesn't have NFC, I guess. The cool, interesting thing about the wallet accessory, even though it's really crap, is that we found out that it has a back plate that you mount on, and then the wallet is magnetic to that magnetic back plate, and the back plate has a circular ring that is like basically magsafe it's pretty much exactly the same yeah it snaps into place and we tested it on a bunch of magsafe

accessories and it works really well so you could if you have a magsafe car mount you can use this in your car which is pretty sweet yeah that's nice i like the kickstand i think the kickstand is cool because it like only takes up a little bit of space on the bottom. Yeah. Or if you're on a plane, just keep it in your backpack. Then I don't always have to carry around this bulky case with the kickstand. Yeah. But for a plane, I just pop it down.

Yeah. How about that lanyard though? All I could think of is that song, Do Your Chain Hang Low? When like Brandon and you were walking around with the lanyard on. Like literally under your waist. Swinging about your like waist level. Yeah. There's a thick, thick lanyard. It's like climbing rope thick yeah it's wild it's weird i i know it looks weird but um a lot of people who travel will often attach their phone to a lanyard and put it around their neck so they don't get it stolen the problem with this is is at the absolute

tightest it was still probably like a foot down from marquez's like neck it felt like it was hanging so much and like yeah swinging all over the place yeah uh it has sd card expansion which is nice up to two terabytes micro sd you can have a massive storage on your phone um and that is in place i opened the phone that's the in place of a second sim card so you can have either have a second sim card or the micro SD card. Oh, okay. That's fine. That's fine.

Oh, seconds. Okay. That's so cool. And then it has a adaptive 120 Hertz display, which is cool for being this cheap. It's smooth. Yeah. It's pretty good. And, you know, when the CMF phone one by nothing has a 120 Hertz display and the base iPhone

still doesn't. Got them. Apple. I feel like at some point, well, they probably don't have to. I'm just saying like, they don't have to do it. They don't have to do anything. And normal people still don't care. But it seems like eventually they would have to take the promotion name away, but they're

just never going to do that. It's always going to be 60 Hertz. Let's be real to ourselves that's really sad it is sad i'm like pour one out i like for the base iphone users out there that's that's that's unfortunate yeah so did you get a chance to try the watch pro 2 not yet okay first gripe how do you go from cmf watch to cmf watch pro 2 i feel like it should either be the cmf watch pro or the cmf watch 2 yeah it's the same price i don't know what's pro about it the first model was a white labeled amazon product allegedly but remember when we went on and we just searched smartwatch and it was the exact same allegedly yeah it looks a lot different than the white than the white labeled product from last year allegedly allegedly i did read a uh skating a

quick good article from ben shun at nine to five google about this cmf watch and he's not a fan is the nicest way of putting it he loves the cmf phone hates this watch pro 2 essentially a lot of it was just like this software was terrible it looks bad and that when the main thing about it is like activity tracking he said he did like four hours of hiking around and it captured like 19 minutes of it and that his wife was using a pixel watch 2 i think and that it captured all of it and had a bunch of good metrics and when you're comparing it to the pixel watch 2 as the like gold standard you're not doing a good job if you're that much lower than the pixel watch 2 you doing a great job devil's advocate okay pixel watch 2 is 279 dollars cmf watch pro 2 is

about 25 of the price so it captured 25 so okay fair fair you know there's that it i don't know it's yeah these watches are definitely cheap i get people want to do activity tracking, and it's probably the cheapest option. But if it's not even doing that that great, I don't know. I'm interested if we get the chance to test it out. There's so many things going on already that were unpacked in July. Why are we talking about unpacked in the middle of July right now?

In the beginning of July. The beginning of July. Yeah. The watch is interesting in the beginning of july the beginning of july yeah so they're the watch is interesting in a number of ways like they have these hot swappable top plates that make it look pretty different they both still look bad and i think one costs more money right the better looking one costs money my hot take that might get me yelled at is that um cmf as a brand has sort of gone for a fisher price on purpose kind of vibe and for the phone that's acceptable because it's kind of hip to like pull out a

fisher price phone but like a fisher price watch it feels less hip to me this feels this does feel kind of like this is not fisher price-Price. This is Casio. It's a classic. I think the CMF phone looks fantastic. And I don't know if I would call it Fisher-Price. You wouldn't? I think the plastic on the back is Fisher-Price-esque. It's orange.

But it looks great. I think that looks, so is Teenage Engineering and that's not Fisher-Price. Teenage Engineering is like. Fancy Fisher-Price. That's how you're going to get yelled at in the comments. Everyone will agree with me. Teenage Engineering is posh Fisher-Price. Fancy Fisher-Price. That's how you're going to get yelled at in the comments. Everyone will agree with me. Teenage engineering is posh Fisher-Price. Yeah, the style, not the quality.

They do kind of have this thing going on where they'll sell you a cheap base thing and then a bunch of little expensive markup items. To make it the same price as a regular device. To make it the same. If I get the CMF phone but I get three backs, I just spent $300. So they can make their money back with these little upgraded things. Like if I get the CMF phone, but I get three backs, I just spent $300, you know? Yeah. So they can make their money back with these little upgraded things.

If you buy a kickstand, you buy some other stuff, get a lanyard. That's kind of what I'm observing here. Love the phone. Watch To Be Decided. TBD. Also the earbuds. TBD. Yeah.

Earbuds also TBD. Yeah. So speaking of things that start with the letter T. Bro. Trivia. That was a good one. How have we done? Trivia. So this question is inspired by CMF,

not including NFC on their phone. And we all know about nearby share. Hilarious. Quick share now is what it's called really yeah i guess i don't know officially that's funny yeah uh it's google's answer to airdrop la-di-da but prior to quick share there was nearby share and prior to nearby share google there was a wireless data transfer protocol that actually did use nfc you had to take two phones and make a kiss yep i loved it uh what was it called i know this you remember this i want nexus 4 phone tell me a phone a nexus 4 nexus 4 yeah good call david that was it nexus 4 i'm picturing the nexus 4 with the like squares on the back the nexus 4 had the

uh like the stars on the back yeah like sparkly it was totally flat oh that was the one that we bought later and it was like melting yeah wow i okay dang what was it called okay i don't know i want to think about that one answers will be at the, like usual, and we'll be right back after this break. This episode is brought to you by HelloFresh. Be honest. Between meetings, workout classes, and the kids' clubs, who's got time to cook? That's where HelloFresh comes in.

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All right, welcome back. We've got to unpack some announcements and an event that Samsung held this week. Today. Yeah, actually, the day that we're recording. An hour ago. Samsung Unpacked. So I made a video with my first impressions

of all the products. So the Z Flip, the Z Fold, the Watch, the Watch Ultra, the Buds 3, the Buds 3 Pro, and the Ring. So if you want to check out impressions and first hands-on looks, first hands-on and looks at any of those things, check out that video. But the event itself was also like, we were watching it this morning,

and it struck me as just having so many generic quotes and weird awkward moments and forced applause that i don't know what's happening with events anymore it just feels kind of unnecessary investors late like i feel like it turned on it had their montage in the beginning which was like this kid skateboarding and with really bad acting all around where he keeps going to different types of like sports and activities and asking them to play through the translator on his flip yeah every scene of them playing sports felt like the catwoman basketball scene of just like really brutal acting and up close like you have to get really close to make it look like they're actually playing the sport where neither the actors or the directors have ever played this exactly yeah like

the basketball scene was the first was like two people dribbling basketballs while like dancing and then this like up close version of him like hanging on the rim and dunking a basketball or that scene in camp rock when the person goes on and plays the the dj set and it's really really bad and everyone goes she's really good yeah but then after that we had 25 minutes of just cruising through products which i loved in 25 minutes they covered the ring both of the watches and like half of the fault and i was like oh we're cruising this is gonna be a short short event and then it was an hour and 15 minutes and then they gemini comes up and just all the air gets sucked out of the room.

And I just basically fell asleep. So yeah, they had to do that Galaxy AI section. They showed us the new section at the top of the settings with all the different features, which had some useful stuff. Like in Samsung Notes, you can draw a bunch of stuff and then it'll turn it into real drawings or real art. It'll summarize stuff in the browser. If you use Samsung's browser, things like that. I like the generative fill around your image. If you change the horizon line,

you get more around what you shot and it seemed to work pretty well. But yeah, they just kind of have to do the Apple thing, which is we put all of the AI in one place. So you know where to find it and it's at the top and you don't forget that it exists. We're an AI company, we swear. So you know where to find it and it's at the top and you don't forget that it exists. We're an AI company, we swear. I'm going to look this up now to make sure that I'm right. But in that section, they talked about circle to search. And I swear in the background,

they had someone using an S Pen on the front side of a fold. And I haven't seen anything about that, but we talked about this last week. So you guys can keep talking about Gemini and let me try and find this in the stream pack. In the stream. But yeah, then we got Gemini. So was the ring also before Gemini?

Yes, the ring and the watch and half of the fold, and then that's how they got into Gemini. So I guess we can go through each of the products one by one and just give our reactions to those, because I've got hands-on time. You've seen the specs and the announcements. So the phones, we'll just start with that. Z Fold 6, Z Flip 6.

Very much similar looking to the last year of the Fold 5 and Flip 5. They're both $100 more expensive though. So it's $1099 for the Flip and $1899 for the Fold. And with that, you get adragon 8 gen 3 you get a better cooling bigger vapor chamber uh you get a new ultra wide camera and uh i think it's a slightly larger battery in the flip as well so you go from 3700 to 4000 milliamp hours and you get basically all the baseline like 12 gigs of ram and the cameras from the S24. So basically S24 interior and yeah, squared off

sides, slightly different camera housing, like slight design changes, a little bit of an update to the hinge. Apparently the coating on the folding screen is, is slightly different. It's like a little bit thicker, which allowed them, or it's more durable, which allowed them to remove some layers. I don't know how that's going to work over time but yeah basically they look very similar to last year's phones aesthetically anyway yeah any thoughts i kind of think that at this point the razor is a lot cooler than the flip in my professional opinion is this aesthetically or in general like overall um both because the flip still isn't like a full full screen display true it's like kind of got that weird like cut out it i didn't notice it as much until they like had the up on

the screen and then a bunch of screens behind what it all could do and it looks like the folder as like a mac icon yeah yeah yeah it does yeah i don't know i like that the razor the new razor especially is like full screen. And the new Razer also has this really cool feature where if you, this is just silly, but if you open it halfway, it opens up the camera and it enables like this camcorder mode. Yeah. And then you can like zoom in and out. I think Samsung did exactly the same thing. Did they really?

I think so. Yeah. I might have to double check that, but I think that they also did that. That's hilarious. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, I think that a Razr is cooler than the Flip because the Flip kind of just feels at this point, like it's the absolute default version of a clamshell foldable phone. That's probably their goal. Yeah. I mean, every Samsung phone at this point is the most boring default safest version of an android phone in any given form factor same with the fold like the one plus open is a cooler phone but the uh i guess the razor is interesting because it costs less yeah like the razor plus i

think is a thousand and the razor is 650 yeah so this is now 1100 yeah so that's interesting it is samsung and you know the build quality is really good and everything about it is good. It's just kind of boring. Yeah. Can I interrupt real quick? I found the part I was talking about. Does this, I can't tell what phone this is, but does that not look like using an S Pen

on the front of a Galaxy Fold? It does to me. It looks like it's pretty narrow. I saw nothing about it. And they didn't say anything about it. No, this was just in the background of when they were starting to talk about circle to me. Looks like it's pretty narrow. I saw nothing about it. And they didn't say anything about it. No, this was just in the background of when they were starting to talk about Circle to Search. Interesting.

I can't tell. We'll have to test it. It would be awesome if they added this because we just talked about this last week about how nice this would be. Yeah. But that might be... Can you use the S Pen on the flip interior screen?

No. No. I don't think so. I don't think so. Is that an a s24 ultra it's cropped in so weird i can't totally tell and it's like with a person with gloves on so they're covering over i guess we'll test it yeah test it and see we'll find that out yeah so what um what are the interesting updates this year to the foldables that's basically it i mean so the the flip has that battery bump i think is probably the most yeah substantial hardware change to 5,000 37 to

437 to 4,000 and obviously the new chip and like the npu which does all the ai stuff and then the fold it's like yeah a lot of subtle improvements okay but one. But there are new AI features. AI stuff is right. The AI features is most of the new stuff. So yeah, if you plan on using summarization or having it write emails for you or sketch things for you. David's favorite. It can do all the stuff now and it's all at the top.

But you can just play with that settings toolbox. The video creator segment they did for the sketching and AI image generating thing was painful. It was, you missed this, so I'm gonna explain it to you. Yeah, it was like 9 a.m. and I was driving to work. You are going to hate this.

Oh no. It's a creator who I'm not exactly sure who he was, is basically parked out on this mountainside in the dark looking at the Milky Way galaxy and the stars. And so he's using that as inspiration for what he's going to draw. So he takes a photo of the stars, and he draws a constellation, and then that constellation kind of looks like the Eiffel Tower. So then he decides to enter in the Eiffel Tower

into an AI image generation studio and creates an AI image of the Eiffel Tower into a like AI image generation studio and creates like an AI image of the Eiffel Tower and that was the inspiration from the beautiful Milky Way galaxy in the dark beautiful outdoors what so he never drew anything no he did though later cut himself out with AI and drag a photo of himself into the fake AI image Eiffel Tower. Wow. This is going to be so popular. Everyone's going to use this.

It's not a Samsung event without a pretty brutal creator getting thrown to the dogs in the middle of the event. Yeah, but they got paid a lot of money, so you can't really feel that sorry for them. That other creator, too, that they had there, Sidney Sweeney um who's that sorry who is she again she's an actress right extremely popular actress right now she's created some things what's she in she's on hot ones she euphoria yeah hot ones is the euphoria still happening either she's in a lot of different things she's extremely popular

and they basically image of her or something and then we're like what do you think and she was like neat that's so cool yeah that happened as well she was in the madam web weird event i haven't seen it what was the boardroom meeting like when they decided we're gonna have her sit in the front row and then we're just gonna cut to a camera reaction of her going cool and then the crowd's gonna clap it was no more than 20 seconds i feel like i really hope they paid her a lot of money um can i say one ai thing no that i did like okay there was and this is like so simple but it was like instant slow-mo on videos where if you take a video and you're watching it back you just hold the screen and it'll slow-mo where you're holding

the screen because right now the current slow-mo mode on everything is so annoying when it like decides where the slow-mo wants to be itself yeah most of the time gives it way too much time so you're trying to do something like a golf form check and it will start slow mowing before you make any movement for like 20 seconds. Wait, I think you might have that feature on your phone. Really? Because I think I already have that feature. Let's go. Yeah.

I did not know about it. There's an article, instant slow mow is one of my favorite Galaxy S24 features. I remember when this came out on the S24 and I think some people were testing it and it kind of makes weird like artifacts. Yeah, that's from January. Yeah, because it's adding it and it kind of makes weird like artifacts. Yeah, that's from January. Because it's adding frames and it's making up frames. So I remember seeing some stuff about there being weird artifacts. Okay. Like morphing in some instances.

So I guess that's the issue is it's not doing the slow-mo video. It's doing it to regular video. Yeah. That's annoying. I'd wish just it. I took the high frame rate video and i got to do that later because dragging the little things is so annoying every time yeah okay what other ai features can we dunk on i don't see that's kind of most of the ai stuff i mean circle search is the one that by

far most people use the best one and it's the best one and it's still really good yeah so there's like translation stuff and how you can use it with the flip screen so you can see it on one side and they can see it on the other side. Yeah, cool. One-way live translate. What's that? You're just eavesdropping on people speaking another language, basically.

Nice. Sweet. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool, right? Marques, is the fold still narrow? The fold outside screen is about two millimeters wider than before. It is definitely still narrow. I thought they said it was taller.

I'm also after the dinner I had last night. I think all of the bezels are smaller. And so, yeah, it probably is a tiny bit taller. But I think they told me like, oh, yeah, two millimeters wider. Like we're trying to make it more usable. But I typed on it. It's very much still a narrow screen. Okay.

Yeah. So, yeah, that's the phones. Nice. What do you want to do, watches? I'm way more interested in the watches. I've heard. Okay, so watch 7, watch 7 Ultra both come out or get announced. Watch 7 is looking very similar.

It's got the thin bezels. It's still a circular display. It's still got two sizes and all that. display it's still got two sizes and all that watch 7 ultra is very much a one-to-one recreation of the same place in apple's ecosystem that the watch ultra lives same name actually watch ultra uh it's 650 but for that here's what you get the same 1.5 inch size screen, but it's sapphire crystal. As the bigger one. As the 47mm. 44mm. 44, the bigger one.

Yeah. Are you sure it's not 47? Yeah, it's 44, yeah. It is water-resistant to 100 meters. It is made of titanium. And it's got this much bigger body behind that circular face. So we've talked about this on the pod before. It's like a circular watch face and underneath it is just like a

kind of a squircle type shape with a larger battery. I think it's a bummer that the screen size of the Ultra is the same as the 44. I would like a bigger screen. Yeah, it's not bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would have been nice.

It's still a circle. You also get dual frequency GPS, which I think is also in the new Watch 7. And you also get this big orange action which i think is also in the new watch 7 and you also get this big orange action button i mean quick button quick button is what it's called it's not an action button it does actions thing but when you press it it says selected action so i'm stick to quick yeah i thought that was a knob dial and it's just a button. It really makes it look like it's a dial, and I'm a little upset about that.

Yeah, it's kind of like knurled, I guess, like a dial would be, but it's just a button. And if you hold that button, you can also get this loud siren, like an 85 dB siren. When we were shooting hands-on, people kept pressing it and activating the siren every couple seconds, which was really great.

Thanks, guys. Keep doing that. That's awesome. Yeah, it's like a $650 watch that looks and feels like it's matching up head-to-head in the Samsung ecosystem the same way this Ultra watch does in Apple's ecosystem, except you can only use it with a Samsung phone. All right. Sorry to interrupt future Andrew here. We mentioned and are going to keep mentioning how the Samsung Watch and Ring only work with Samsung phones. It's only Thursday. A bunch of people just got their review units and there's

been a lot of conflicting stuff where the reviewers guides all say only available on Samsung phones and people are testing it and it seems like they work on some other Android phones, but you're missing a bunch of features. So either way, it seems like the sentiment is still kind of true of there's some limits here um so we're gonna keep that stuff in but just know it seems like it does work with some phones we will be testing it more everyone will be testing it more but we're not 100 sure what is and is not available between these these accessories and other android phones okay back to the show that's rough why because a lot of android what google where android where what why am i used to be android where where os yeah a lot of where os watches you can use with any android phone it's also android where perpetually in my head although you, you know, the Pixel Watch is only on Pixels, right?

Or can you use the Pixel Watch with any Android phone? I thought you... Wait, sorry. Did I miss something? Pixel Watch versus any Android. Yeah, so like, it's kind of rough. Oh, this only works with... I just missed you saying that.

Yeah, it only works... I'm sorry, that is rough. It only works with Galaxy phones. That's stupid. I agree. Glad I have a Galaxy phone because I think this is sick. Yeah. Same, boy.

Now Samsung should get the same amount of scrutiny that Apple gets for... They should. That's stupid, Samsung. Yeah. i agree glad i have a galaxy phone because i think this is sick yeah now they same boy now samsung should get the same amount of scrutiny that apple gets for they should that's stupid samsung yeah you should feel ashamed you've got all the stuff in the health the samsung health app then just like make the samsung health app the app that you connect the watch through yeah you can just put that on an android phone i've had it on there accidentally before because i just transferred from a samsung phone to a Pixel phone and it was there. Yeah, I don't know. 48-hour battery life in exercise power saving mode and 100-hour battery life in power saving mode.

I found something on their website that I thought was interesting here. Sure. Okay, so we were trying to figure out what exercise power saving mode means. And we thought it just meant normal use of like exercising but on the samsung website and david and i looked at this it's hilarious because under this there are so many asterisks like a wild so funny but one of them says yeah in normal battery mode when power saving mode or exercise power saving mode is off battery life is up to 60 hours with always on display enabled and up to 80 hours with always on display disabled so i still don't know what exercise power saving mode means i'm assuming it's when you're in an exercise activity it turns on

some sort of power saving mode to not do other background apps and only focus on i think it's health metrics i think it's less samples so in regular exercise mode, it's sampling all the time and updating like every one or two seconds. And in exercise power saving mode, maybe you're doing an ultra marathon or something. You don't need every two seconds to be measured. It spreads out the measurements and samples way less. So it's a equivalent power saving mode for exercising.

But the cool thing here is if you are just using this as a watch and through two to three days of no different activities, 60 hours of battery life with always on display on. And then if it's off, so you're just doing raise to wake 80 hours. That's pretty good. That seems like great numbers that they just seem to not talk about at all. That's pretty much equivalent to the Apple Watch, I would say, from my experience. 60 hours being, let's say, two and a half days.

I think that's what I'd get out of my Apple Watch Ultra if I just use it like a regular watch with always on. You're saying 60 hours is what they say and you get closer to two and a half days, not? No, 60 hours. Oh, yeah, I guess that is two and a half days. Yeah, it's about what I'm getting. But I've been using Raise to Wake, so three days essentially with 80 hours. That would be great. Yeah.

That seems like solid battery life though i'm oh my other question is so the watch band connection point on this is looks different from this regular galaxy watches which are used to be or still are in the just regular watch seven essentially the uh metal piece that contracts in inwards goes in and then has two pins yeah yeah this looks like almost more similar to the apple watch where it slides in um if you look at the photos of it my question well first of all that sucks that you can't use the bands because i love all these bands even though they are pretty much one-to-one ripoffs of the apple watch bands because i love the apple watch bands i know marquez's answer to this already what are the chances you think you can slide an apple watch band into this galaxy

watch ultra it's probably not the same see how it goes this it looks like a similar it's very it looks extremely similar but i bet you they're like slightly different sizes. I agree. Yeah. But I'm holding out optimism for it. You're trying to use an Apple Watch band with the Galaxy Watch Ultra. I want the trail band from the Apple Watch, which there is a trail band for the Galaxy Watch Ultra,

but it is more similar to the Alpine Loop from the Apple Watch Ultra. Literally same name, different band, which I also think is cool but i love all the apple watch ultra bands i feel like that's true for musical bands too similar but same name different band yeah sorry andrew i would say hold out hope for clones i'm not i'm not i do amazon bands yeah right that's this is a year and a half old and was eight dollars and it came with I'm not. $7 Amazon bands, baby. Yeah, right? This is a year and a half old and was $8.

And it came with two. It looks brand new. It's because it's green. So it only can morph into the more nasty version of it. I have a question. Is there anything between the two watches that differentiates the Ultra other than just pressing a button? The battery. The battery. The battery is a lot bigger

okay that's oh yeah no there's a bunch it's 100 meter water resistance versus normal ip68 it's titanium it's got the bigger battery and bigger chassis obviously um dual extra button dual frequency is all it's on both okay um yeah so it's a couple things and the bands only work with that one like they're literally different bands that won't work with each other. Right. I'm very interested. I want this. 100%.

Samsung, can you send us a couple of these, please? It's weird that they did different bands. It is weird that they did that. Yeah, I think that's odd. Yeah. But I think this looks so sick. I like my Garmin, but I'd be super interested in using this and um I think I'm okay with that I want this what color do you want Adam trail band in the white color I already have it picked in

white color thank you oh the trail band is the white color I think I like um titanium I like titanium silver because I like only the orange on the button versus the orange because when you do titanium gray you get the orange on all the not the orange. Because when you do titanium gray, you get the orange on all the notches. Yeah, that's what I want. That looks good when you have the orange band. I think the other one would look better if I changed the band out to other things.

But I want titanium silver with orange trail bands. Fair. I wonder if I will ever wear a smartwatch again. I get stuck in this situation because Garmin, the thing that I like about it is that it's cross-platform. Yeah. And this is every cross-platform. Yeah. You get every notification on the iPhone. Yeah, but this keeps getting more specific.

Like, now it's only on Galaxy devices, not even just Android devices. That's messed up. Welcome to the Galaxy, my friend. Let's do it. Let's join the ecosystem, Adam. Just you and me, baby. You're already Dex-ing every day. Yeah, right? That's true. Dex-ing daily. Speaking of the next thing, if I was going to do this,

might as well try the Buds Pro 3. Yeah. The industrial AirPods Pro. The Buds are redesigned, and I think they look really good, to be honest. Even though they have that big stem, they have a triangular stem instead of a circular one, and then the blade lights on the Pros look kind of cool.

Not that I need lights on lights. I don't understand indicator lights on earbuds. Yeah we talked about this last time. You can't see it. Only if you look in the mirror. Wait one thing they told me it was maybe useful for finding them when you lose them. You can light them up. Find them in the dark. Yeah in the pure dark.

Yeah it's not nothing. Only when you're already half asleep you're like where are my earbuds. Do you know if it if it in active noise noise canceling was like glowed red so then maybe less people would try and talk to you when you have them in i feel like that would be fantastic for all the people who are like i just wear earpods like airpods so nobody talks or strangers would come up to you and be like hey your earbuds are about to die. By the way, what's going on? My name's... Yeah.

You know what's interesting about the Buds 3 versus the Buds 3 Pro is they both have ANC. Yeah. But only the Pro has ambient mode. And usually it's the other way around. Really? Maybe. I feel like ANC...

Yeah, that's true. And the Pros also have adaptive AN adaptive anc which is if it picks up on like you're having a conversation it will lower the noise cancellation or if there's some siren you need to hear it can block that out so it's a little bit smarter than just pure regular anc so if i'm the regular ones don't have it if i'm setting off the siren on my galaxy watch ultra you'll be able to hear me even if you have anc on i mean if i'm biking down the street i don't really want my my music to go away so i can hear the ambulance that's gonna pierce my ears wait no yes you do so you don't get hit by the ambulance yes that's the exact reason the answer is not i mean that that yeah the answer is not that good that i'm

just not gonna hear the ambulance that's probably i'm gonna hear the ambulance i feel like you described the one scenario on which you need that exact feature. If I'm biking on the middle of Philly, I don't want to hear the ambulance behind me. I don't want to hear

the guy honking at me. Go around me. But yeah, that's the buds. And then we finally got details on the ring. They have a Galaxy ring. Sorry.

Oh, yeah, that's cool too. Oh, and they're $179 and $249. So like the same as Apple's prices. Again. All right. Yeah. But yeah, so the so the ring okay so there is no ring in everybody's ecosystem but they added a ring to theirs and it will have all the features you'd expect from a smart ring it's got a couple sensors it measures your heart rate it has a skin temperature sensor

and it will do the same feeding back to your smartphone and like feeding into the information for your energy score in the health app so you've got an energy score the same that the watch would give you. I just want to point out Garmin was really a trailblazer on this feature. Their body battery thing they've had for a long time. Everyone is copying

it now. Does Whoop do that too? Yeah. It's not called body battery but yeah it's just recovery scores recovery scores yeah scores are fun i like that the eight sleeve gives me a number every day yeah i'm trying to have like hit a high score kind of yeah so yeah i'm into it but yeah there's three colors black silver gold um it's a little bit concave so that it's less likely to scratch if you like knock it against something well there's two there's oh no i'm thinking sorry i'm thinking

of the auraa Ring. The Oura Ring has two models that look different. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so the Oura Ring, funny you bring that up, has a $6 a month subscription.

Yeah. This one has no subscription. So it's $3.99, no subscription. But it's $100 more. But it's $100 more than the base Oura Ring. I'm so interested in this. So there you go. I'm going to try it.

I'm going to test it. I'm very curious. I mean, I use this Samsung phone anyway, so. I think you also need a Samsung phone to use this thing. Just, yeah, it doesn't make sense. If you can put Samsung Health on, just let it. They're trying to keep people in the ecosystem. Yeah, it makes sense.

I just hate it. We're getting the ecosystem we wanted so bad, and they're doing it exactly like the ecosystem we all hate so much. Apple's getting so much like criticism and scrutiny and then all the other companies are like we're gonna do it anyway i mean we should have all seen this coming i guess but like i would take it as a warning sign yeah it's if i was working out for your company i get it well that's why the companies are doing it because it's working out for apple that's true and they haven't actually gotten in real

trouble for it i just wish i can take the the best Samsung features or products that I want and use it with any Android phone, which I feel like you used to be able to do all the time. That would be 2012. Yeah, that would be 2012. Yeah, good times. The Mayan calendar and everything. The ring to me... Oh, sorry, you just answered your phone so i was no i'm converting it into a someone randomly called me and i'm answering it with bixby oh cool well while you do that

rings i totally get why a lot of people like them i just feel like if you're like adam when you're gonna go lift are you gonna wear the ring when you're lifting yeah i do and it has marks and scratches all over it oh that feels so uncomfortable it is uncomfortable especially like doing pull-ups and stuff like that i get like you do pull-ups yeah terrible blisters but eventually you uh you just get used to only you had like a wrist to put something on yes and you're a watch guy yeah i'm a regular watch like i said i get the ring i don't think i could ever use it because of climbing or uh like lifting i don't like that and also like lifting is fine climbing is a specific use case so you would have to do it

yeah it's funny i always see i never notice rings on people people's fingers but i'm always afraid to wear one because i think you have to be like a ring guy to wear a ring you know it's i used to i don't think you have to i think they're way more popular now yeah it does take a minute to get used to my wedding ring took me a very long time to get used to i used to go home and just take it off immediately because i just was not used and then i that's when i started wearing a smart watch so having a ring and a watch all of a sudden made my hand feel like heavier. Wow.

And I didn't like it. Well, my eight sleep already gives me all this information. And helps me sleep better. But not while you run a workout. Yeah, that's. Yeah, do you play sports with a ring on? Like you climb, you can't climb with a ring on. No, I take that off.

I used to not even play video games with my ring on. Yeah. I take my watch out to play. You can't. Well, you can throw with it, I guess. I don't know. I wear my ring when I'm playing disc golf, but it's on my left hand. So it doesn't matter if I was catching, if I was golfing.

No, when I when I did play a little ultimate after I was married, I used like a silicone ring instead, which isn't as big of an issue. And smart rings are way thicker than a regular like. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like this was be a fitness tracker and like a health tracker. But I don't want to wear it while I'm doing any of the fitness things that I'm doing. Yeah, that's my issue. That's my concern. Yeah.

Okay. Well, it has a seven-day battery life, so I can track sleeping and track all kinds of other things. You're supposed to be able to swim with it? Yep. 100 meters again. So you can go real deep. You can go scuba diving with it on if you wanted to. So that's cool.

Yeah, $399. That's out there. That's kind of it it it has a cool case by the way if you put it on the case it's got this like pin system for charging and then it like lights up a ring around the ring showing how much battery oh cool which is kind of neat and we have a shot of that in the video if you want to see what that looks like that is really cool i was wondering what that case was yeah it's charging case clear cases are back yeah you don't need a charging case for for it you don't no the other ones just have like a little stand that you just plop it onto oh oh but don't you want to charge on the go well yeah now this is what that's for yeah yeah i like

that i think last thing is it starts at 399 did we say that already we did we did say that already that seems kind of expensive to me no subscription subscription. How much is your superhuman ring? Wait, is that what it's called? No, that's the trash can. Ultrahuman. No, that's the email app. Yeah, email app is superhuman. Simple human is the trash can.

Glad we got that. You're ultrahuman? You're ultrahuman? It's $2.99, no subscription. You're ultrahuman, yes. Oh, wow, that's pretty good. So that's the price of the Aura with no subscription. Let me just fact check that, but yeah. Is there anything that your ring does or doesn't do

that's very different from the Samsung ring? Can connect to other Android from the same can connect to other phones that's probably the main thing low key yeah that's what i was thinking about when i was when we were going over all this is that i can still connect to whatever i want but it seems like the is it good the galaxy ring yeah it's pretty good the galaxy ring does more active uh what's the word noise cancellation no sensing censoring i guess like if i want to do a workout i have to go into yeah thank you if i want to go into the app and start workout the galaxy ring will automatically do that which is nice workout section yeah i actually think that's huge because i hated on my whoop band when i wore it for a while that you had to i had to go get my

phone start the workout because there's no auto detection on things. And that's a pain in the neck when you want to just like put your phone away and go do something. So the ultra human ring is 349. So it's right in the middle. Oh, okay. Interesting. Up to six days of battery life.

Pretty similar. So yeah, I feel like a lot of these are comparable. I'm going to jump into the rings testing market. So if anyone has any other things I should look out for when testing them feel free to leave a comment let me know if you use an aura ring let me know what you like about it so when i test this i know what to look for yeah uh anyway yeah i know my ring size now so that's cool uh i think that's it oh it's the samsung okay yeah i'll i'll grab it in

a second i'll be in there in a minute and a half. Quick update for podcast listeners. Marques got a call in the middle of the podcast that the Samsung devices were delivered. So we will be unboxing them. First impressions live on the pod. And we almost didn't because he just put it to like call screening. He tried to answer with Bixby. Imagine we don't get the Samsung products

because Bixby answered something. What are those? guys what are those oh you got a bunch of boxes here oh wow samsung clause has arrived uh yeah so you'll never believe you just stopped by the phone call that i kept dismissing was actually a samsung uh so these are all the devices we just talked about this is the Watch Ultra with the orange band. Is that the one that you're interested in? That's the one he wanted. But he wanted the silver. Well, no, there's the one Adam wanted, I think.

Sort of. We got the flip sticks and the fold sticks, which I believe that would be the silver and the blue. This new little super minimal box. Yeah. Which I'm kind of into, actually. It's a cool art style. Cool design.

And Buds 3 Pro. Light box for the Buds 3. Dark box for the buzz three dark box for the buzz three pro because pro is dark classic and the galaxy ring this better be the matte black one this better be the matte black it's black on the front so i'm assuming it's black on the front yeah i think the ring on the front would represent the color okay i hope so yeah so the galaxy ring cool so we have so yeah nice we just finished talking about them. Now you can leave a comment about which ones you'd want to see a review of first.

I'm just going to put it out there. The ring got the most comments. The ring got the most, uh, interest in general. I think what I've seen, I think we should do the ring first. So it's probably going to be the first thing I unbox and test.

Yeah. But let us know if you're also interested in what else are you saving the unboxing experience for video? When Andrew asked that, what he means is, can I take it out the box right now? Is that cool? Yeah, go ahead. The watch?

Really? Can I see the buds? Can I do the ring? Both. Both. Okay. There you go. And you want to unbox the ring?

Yeah. I don't think we've ever unboxed something on the podcast before. All at the same time. At the same time. Oh, yeah. Hold on. I'll wait i'll wait sorry i did one pull tab we can pull together we can pull through this together pull through i just have to say this says don't accept the seal is broken this definitely looks like it's got one of the double seals i don't know it's chaotic i'm opening the phone as well is this not double sealed like they definitely opened it and then re-put a seal on. It seems like a typical review unit. Marquez has the fold.

I have the fold out the box. It is titanium. This is so much like the Apple Watch Ultra where it's got this box for the watch and the band inside. And it's a white box inside the black box. With the black arrows. The price is on the band inside. And it's a white box inside the black box. With the black arrows. The price is like on the box itself, which is kind of weird. Oh, this case for the Ramson.

Can I get everybody to be silent for three seconds? Yeah. Pretty satisfying considering it's the paper screen cover, which have not been as... Whoa, this is all bent on the inside. This looks like something do you see this stuff oh my god what's wrong with this oh my god he's okay okay pretty durable pretty durable this is why marquez does it we do it live wait what's oh this is not wait this is not the Apple Watch. Oh, they glow. You see that?

See that glow? Simultaneous unboxing experience. Oh, I got you. So this is the ring case closing. Ready? It's a light plastic one. Light plastic. Now, this package is incredible.

The way the lights of the device integrate with the packaging. Yeah, that's nice. Pretty cool. You see the ring? Wait, can confirm now, though, though the question before this definitely does not fit with an apple watch because it doesn't slide it snaps as the apple watch ultra these feel really light which is good i guess bad i mean no i think it's good good they feel kind of well that's the thing about certain wearable tech is you want it to be light because you're wearing it. But it's more premium.

But it feels cheap because it's light. Bad. Like a VR headset. Bad. Yeah. Headphones. Good. Like, you know how Apple makes headphones that are heavier than everyone else's?

They feel really premium, but they're also so heavy. Good. And they make a VR headset that's heavier than everyone else's, so it feels really premium, but it's also so heavy. Bad. Yeah. So now, yeah. I love this. And they make a VR headset that's heavier than everyone else's, so it feels really premium, but it's also so heavy. That good? So now, yeah. I love this. So we just unboxed everything except this next trivia question. Oh!

Well played. Damn. Yes, I'm back. Damn, I'm good. All right. So quick update on the score, by the way. We're all tied at 13. Oh, shoot.

Wow. Crazy. That seems really unlucky yeah well it's gonna change this this episode i hope so i hope if you guys get points so this next trivia question is an audio round i sent ellis an audio clip that he is going to play and the question will come immediately audio file is it in 16 kilohertz today our phones aren't just music players or web browsers they're portals to the most important places, people and passions in our lives. And yet they have the same screens they had 10 years ago, boxed in on all sides. Until now, the isn't just a new smartphone,

but a new kind of smartphone. It marks a new era in smartphone design the perfect balance of form and function art and science design and technology and it's my pleasure to introduce an innovation that will change the way you see your smartphone and everything on it the infinity display what phone was this he said it's the i love when it's bleeping sound rounds because it just sounds like they're cursing. There are so many options for this. It's not the Xiaomi one

because that would have been in Chinese. No, this is... Infinite display? Infinity display. I'm just trying to figure out which one. What was the first phone to have that well there's multiple answers to that well okay i'll give you a little hint here most the first samsung phone to have that there's also still multiple answers i have an answer that will

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Willkommen. We are going to talk very briefly. What did you say? German. It's German. Ellis, you were just speaking German a bunch to me yesterday. I know a few German expressions, but not all of the language. I don't know why I knew that.

It just sounded German. Well, a lot of German words just sound like English words. Haus. I'm right. It's true. It's true. Anyway. True.

Okay. However, butterflies. Schmetterling. That's way cooler than Butterfly. Yeah. Ambulance is notably like Kronkenwagen. It's Kronkenwagen. Yeah. Because it's the crazy car.

We are so far off topic. And crazy also meant sick. It's the same thing. But David can't hear the Kronkenwagen when his... Kronkenwagen. He doesn't have his... Kronkenwagen. His noise cancellation is on.

All right. when his noise cancellation is on. Alright, I want to talk about Spotify adding comments to podcasts and Activity Pub. Activity Pub is not part of this, but I am going to make it part of it. So there's an update to Spotify

recently where they're now allowing comments on podcasts. The way that they're implementing this is very interesting effectively listeners can leave comments on podcast but every single comment is held for review so you only show the comments that you want to show which seems very authoritarian we like like for waveform we would choose yeah imagine if yelp was like that you only put the nice but that this food sucks that's that's already kind of a weird thing about this is like you're probably only going to publish the positive comments which is strange um and then

people can leave comments on the podcast itself which to me just is a review but okay yeah it's what apple podcast has done that forever you leave a comment on the podcast you rate and it has a comment yeah but that's a review yeah yeah that's yeah i'm agreeing yeah just calling it something different there's also other podcasts that are like on substack or something where you can do comments in there and it turns into a kind of discussion type of area so i guess that's kind of what they're going for i guess yeah it's just it's weird that every single comment is vetted but you know um they previously had a poll and q a option on podcasts in spotify that apparently got a decent amount of traction so now they're allowing for comments um and in my opinion this is just like another way for them to try to keep people

in the spotify podcasting ecosystem. Similarly to the other day when we talked about Apple Music or Apple Podcasts allowing for subscriptions within Apple Podcasts. This goes against everything that podcasts were made for. Phrase, get it wherever you get your podcasts, is a very powerful phrase because podcasts based on RSS can just go through the system. And I am consistently more frustrated at every platform that tries to make unique features in their ecosystem that keeps people in their ecosystem when podcasts as a idea are made to be gotten anywhere so this one feels like not as like the apple one was like you get bonus content for paying throughout that this is just like it is worse the people on this platform are being able to comment yeah and stuff it's just that if you had activity pub right okay so activity pub podcasts can already go through activity pub and so if you have a platform that can accept uh these federated content pieces of

content you could just comment on a podcast through activity pub and then you would be able to see those comments everywhere so you don't need to just be locked into the Spotify platform to see the Spotify comments for a podcast you'd be able to see everyone's comments for the podcast but she you said those magical words they're locked in if I'm Spotify I want people locked in yeah if you have most of the people in the ecosystem because yeah we talked about standards organizations Apple usually wants to lock people in as well but they embraced matter because nobody has apple home kit devices because they don't have that many home kit devices and there's way more google assistants and amazon echo devices out there so it's easier for them to do

that anyway i'm just saying that uh considering podcasts were originally made to be gotten anywhere it's just very frustrating to see like more and more platforms like trying to make more features that are exclusive to platform i agree with you that that's not a huge deal in this case um i'm much more angry at apple for this but it would be cool podcasting because it's a made available anywhere also makes it really hard for us to tell like downloads and listens and even like see reviews before reviews were mostly only on apple podcasts then spotify added a star system with no comments and then now there are comments but that's still annoying that they're on two like yeah our podcast could be a three star on spotify

and a five star on apple podcast that all be federated yesated? Yes. It would be great if it could be. All of the ratings, all of the comments. Yeah, because that's just everyone in the world. Why is there a difference between the people on one platform and another platform? If there's an app on the Google Play Store and an app on the Apple App Store and they have different ratings, it's like you can do the math yourself, I

guess, to get the average rating between them. With that one, it's tricky because they might genuinely be a different experience. That's fair enough yeah but if it's the same podcast in multiple places wait apple people hear our podcast differently than android people oh oh we were not supposed to sorry cut that adam cut that yeah wait the subtle messaging yeah i don't know what just happened but But yeah, no, I kind of agree, David, because I feel like content should be the universal thing. Yeah. Like comments, Q&As, polls, everyone should be able to see that.

I like the idea of everyone competing on features, not on content. So like threads, for example, under desktop mode, just put the like tweet deck kind of style thing. That's cool. Yeah. But like eventually they'll eventually be federated or whatever. And I can choose which one I want. The analogy is when the Twitter API was open and we had all the different Twitter apps

and you downloaded a different Twitter app because it had different features. Like that should be, the content should be the universal thing. And then the features around the content should be your thing that you compete on. Hypothetical. Should YouTube be included in this? I think so. Because our podcast on YouTube has hundreds of comments every week

and lots of ratings on every episode. Yeah. It's just, it's not, I mean, if we put the same video everywhere, it's the same content. Yeah, no,

I 100% agree because like right now you can put a video on Twitter or whatever and it's like you're gonna get comments so why don't why isn't there just a comment section for everything shareholder value that's actually the real answer we all know that's the answer yeah it would be great it's like imagine you have a blog and nobody goes to very few people go to your blog on your website to comment on your website's blog.

But you publish the blog on Twitter and tons of people talk about it. Why aren't the comment sections the same on Twitter or threads than they are on your blog? They could all be the same comment section. Do you remember Google Plus? comment section do you remember google plus every time we talk about activity pub marquette's like a golden look in his eye where he's like remembering the google plus days back in my day every website had a plus one button in the corner and that was just across the whole internet you could be the first one to plus one an article you could be the five thousandth person to plus one something and everything had some sort of at

least system yeah at least activity pub is standardized by the world wide web consortium and not google fair i wouldn't want a company to be the one that's running like all comment sections around the entire internet especially because it was dead two years later so if we could if we could hypothetically upload this podcast video everywhere, like Marques was suggesting, would the features that bring us to YouTube be monetization? On YouTube. Discoverability.

Discoverability. Numero uno. Yeah. How do you say that in German? Eins. That's a total guess. Eins. Eins, yeah.

But what's number? I think it's new numer just erase all the vowels pretty much all the germans are gonna yell at you yeah i'm german i'm 50% you're a vowel a-e-i-o-u sometimes why why sometimes sometimes sometimes it's it's most of the time claire and i just had this discussion though yeah it's a e i o u and pretty much all of the time why what is the y in sync of l how often is y y is more often a vowel no you don't know what you're talking about is a y at the end of l yeah i think what you're saying is yucky damn that was one one example he had two yeah little john was right all along that's i didn't mean that i didn't mean that that's my that's my age demographic too it is numa

eintz by the way i was right numer numera eins i'm gonna get canceled for vowels that's how i'm leaving this podcast is vowels numera eins america we need to end this podcast right now it's a great time to do to federate let's do get in the fediverse i gotta start testing these devices too. Thank you very much. All right. Question number one. What do they call it? Quick share? Number eins.

After nearby share, they called it? Quick share. Quick share. Okay. There was quick share. And before that, there was nearby share. And before that, it used NFC. that, it used NFC. What was Google's NFC Wireless Data Transfer Protocol called?

For anyone in the audience, I read on the internet that NFC has a standard distance limitation of four centimeters, and I could not find a single citation for that fact, despite Googling and Googling and Googling. So if you're an engineer and you happen to know where I can find the official citation for four centimeters being the maximum distance for NFC communication, podcast at mkbhd.com

is where to send it. Flip them and read, boys! Android Beam. Android Beam is correct. What else do we have? We both are tapped to share. Debuted on the Nexus 4.

I remember that. Damn. I remember that. Android Beam is such a good name. If this is a multiple choice. Wait. Android Beam is definitely something they would call it back then in the Android days where they were like really embracing the like alien vibe. And now they're like, no, we need to be.

Google boring. Yeah. Well, it's really funny because I feel like Beam implies like distance, but your phone has literally had to be touching. It only touched to get the handshake. No. They had to be touching to be used. It only touched to get the handshake, I believe. They had to be four centimeters away. Oh, yeah. You had to. Yeah.

During the entire transfer? Yes. If I was four centimeters away from Adam, he'd be like, you're touching me right now. Yeah, but now you can transfer heat, which is what the phones are doing. And data. And payment information, apparently. And contact information. Question number two.

I'm going to play you. Or, well, more accurately, Ellis is going to play you an audio clip from a Samsung Unpacked event. Phones aren't just music players or web browsers. They're portals to the most important places, people, and passions in our lives. Curious A B Jesus It's a new era in smartphone design. The perfect balance of form and function, art and science, design and technology.

And it's my pleasure to introduce an innovation that will change the way you see your smartphone and everything on it. The Infinity Display. What phone was announced with Infinity Display? That year, there were multiple phones with with infinity display but this was specifically for a single phone when they first announced it oh really yes shoot like which one were they talking about during this part must be wrong all right flip him multiple phones with infinity What do you got? Wait. David? Oh. I put Galaxy Fold 1. Well, Galaxy Fold.

Oh. Andrew? I put the Galaxy Note Edge. Nope. Marques? The real answer is the Galaxy Note Edge, but that's not the answer you want. You want me to say Galaxy S8.

Damn. Oh, I remember. Spot on. Oh, wow. But the Note Edge did it before that yeah that's only on one side exactly they didn't call it they didn't call it it only wrapped around the right side of the phone why would they why would why would a device called the edge have something called the infinity display because well both sides it was just that only one edge of it had had the essay was the folding over play curled but only on one side

no both so this was back in the obsession over screen to body ratios yeah where phone manufacturers would quote like we have an 89 screen to body ratio and then someone go we've got 90 and then oh my god 92 and this was when samsung was just like we curved the screen over the edges and it basically looks like it's an infinite screen to buy. I totally knew that. What's confusing about that sound bite though is they're like screens haven't changed in 10 years. Well except for ours like

a year ago. The Galaxy Note Edge that we're basically taking this away from. I remember that being called infinity display now. I was just confused like if you were going to call something infinity display I don't know why you call attention to an edge. Yeah, when you're looking at it from the front, it basically looks infinite because you can't

see the bottom of it. They should have called it the F. Whatever. Let's just... I'll take the point, though. Cool. Wow. Wow. Alright. Well, that was fun. Well, we've got a bunch of testing now to do. As you can tell by the video version of the podcast, we've just got boxes scattered everywhere, and we've got them

in our hands. So let us know what you want to see in the reviews. I'm going to be wearing all kinds of stuff and holding things and testing. So we'll be reading your comments. One smart ring for each finger. Are you going to double watch, Marques? I may have to have one earbud in one ear and the other in the other. You should wear 10 rings.

I'm going to have one phone in each pocket and have a bunch of rings on it. It's going to be a good time. I still think that would be a sick short. Yeah. Just starting it like this. Catch you guys in the next podcast with all the wearables on at the same time. Thanks for watching. See you guys later.

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