Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Waveform Episode 300: Livestreamed!

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

We're back with episode 300! This is a bonus episode that we livestreamed, so we apologize for a few hiccups at the beginning and end that may have cut people off. But we had such a great time answering questions from our first ever live chat! Thanks to everyone for tuning in and we hope you enjoy hanging with us for this episode. We'll be back Friday with the regularly scheduled program. Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I was like, was that that loud? Okay, now we're going live. Okay. Going live on Marques. Wait, we're not live, right? You want me to count down? wait, we're not live, right? You want me to count down? Well, we're already live. Oh.

No, no, but they can't see you yet. We still have the technical difficulties. Can they hear us? So let me know when we're live. I see you live on the thing right now. Oh. Yeah, we're live. Yeah, okay.

Okay, great. Yo. Welcome, welcome to the super on time, super impromptu but definitely live. You obviously can tell it's really live. Waveform episode number 300. Like the movie. It's good to be here.

Guys, why are we late? Yeah, well, you know, going live is always an adventure and you guys are setting up OBS, and wanted to plug it into this channel, and we were testing it on another channel, and we went live in OBS, and it wasn't live here, and we had to connect the dots, and now it's all good. We were going live to Adam's channel, our test channel,

for a little bit there, so that's what was happening. Oh, that's funny. But we're here. We're here, we're your hosts, I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. So we had a lot of fun at the last live thing that we did, which was South by Southwest,

but that was on stage for like a, technically a closed event where you had to like pay to have tickets to South by and then go to our thing. This, we just wanted to have fun and do an episode for everyone. And episode 300 was a good opportunity to do that because we've come a long way. What do we want to do? Because we have

chat gone pretty crazy right now. We can talk to them. I want to tell you a story really quickly. Sure. Wait, before you do that. Okay. Start asking questions in the chat, please. Most of this episode will be us answering them. We have people grabbing questions from here. Dave is going to tell a story. Okay, then we're going to get a little sappy about the podcast and then we'll answer That's nice. Cool. Okay last night. I had a dream Okay, I want to tell you guys about my dream. Okay, so this is right before I woke up by the way So I still remember the whole thing. Okay, incredible. Okay. I was rollerblading to work I don't know why I don't know how to roll our boy the commute. I think that we were we were like in another city

I was really being it was super fun. I was like, this is so sick to do this live podcast Uh-huh, right? Okay, so I get to the office and we're in this other room But you guys were like, okay in order to do this live podcast We only own one camera so we have to We had this small round table that was like it was like this big. It was not big. And we're all kind of crowded around it with this big wide angle lens. And we're like, OK, guys, we're doing the live podcast.

And then we had like Sundays, you know, like ice cream Sundays. And they had banana splits in them. And Marquez tried to convince me that the way that you make chocolate like hard on the top of ice cream is by putting like melting butter and pouring it on it. And I was like, that's not how that works. He was like, yes it is.

And then we fought about it for like a while. Your brain. And then I woke up. Your brain is not very much safe in me. That is wild. You were triggered by the conversation the other day about whether it was read or read receipts. Yeah, we did have a whole test stream

where then we went into this 40 minute conversation about read receipts versus read receipts. By the way, I put out a poll on Twitter and threads. Is it read receipts or read receipts? Wait, you mean you put that out on Twitter and threeds? Well, I put- Threed receipts. So threads said red receipts won the poll,

but on Twitter, read receipts won the poll. Yeah, but how much did it win by on threads? So it won by a higher percentage on threads, but less votes were cast on threads. So I had to do the math because there was 50,000 more votes on Twitter, even though one by a smaller percentage and overall total between all of the votes, I think read receipts slightly edged out,

no, read receipts slightly edged out, read receipts, which was a bummer because that's incorrect. But anyway, that happened. Chat has gone crazy. I see a lot of you guys saying the volume's low, so I think we're gonna try to bump that up a little bit. Is it live or pre-recorded? It's live.

Threeds, thank you. Shout out to everyone who is actually doing your dishes. This is super new, but David, why do you think the RX1R that just got released is? $5,000? It's $5,000. Cause they can. Shout out to Sony.

Shout out to Sony and tariffs. All right, so small retrospective, then we'll go all chat, cause we wanted to just sort of recap how we got here to episode 300. That's true. So Waveform started as just Andrew and I and just audio.

And that was 2019, August 2019, when we first started. And the idea of the podcast was pretty, it's kind of the same as it is now, which was we have a lot of these conversations about tech that don't make it to videos, or are kind of like the run-up that turns into videos, et cetera, and we just wanna capture those because they're actually really interesting conversations

maybe people will enjoy them. And sometimes it's like the conversation we're having for the first time so you can almost see all our brains working on like how this could there have been conversations on the podcast that we've turned into videos because we've had a good enough conversation about it. Yeah, Unfinished Thoughts. Yeah. Getting into the weeds on stuff.

It soon turned into a weekly podcast and we had two years of basically getting up to weekly by January, 2021. Yeah. And then Adam joined as a permanent producer of the Waveform podcast. Shout out to Adam. That was episode 50. Adam is also currently live camera switching right now.

So he is locked in. But that was Adam's joining. David joined as a guest host for the first time ever, also in 2021. And actually, this is the beginning of trivia. So it was episode 54, do you remember this? I remember doing the trivia thing. There was like a trivia segment of us,

and he was the host of the trivia segment. I think it was before video, but that kind of was technically the first trivia we've ever done on the podcast. Yeah. We had the second table. The weird table in here. Yeah. That's also the first time we did a long form episode which is when you told us the the story essentially of how Boosted Boards rose and fell and we've done some many more really interesting long form storytelling type episodes since then, which is awesome.

Looking here, between episode 45 and 62, a lot of stuff happened. We leveled up. We decided it would be a real thing, basically. Because that was episode 59 for Rise and Fall of Boosted, and then episode 62 is our first video podcast. Yeah. So then we fast forward a little bit.

Tim starts making a sort of a, a Thumbnail, Wow, Thumbnail template. We can't redo that. Thumbnail template. Thumbnail. A Thumbnail. We have Thumbnails now. And we also started, we added Ellis as a full-time producer.

His first episode is 2022 in May. That was episode 116. Can I tell a funny story from that? Please. Because when you get hired here, there's like a short period where you're not on camera. You're so like finding your way and like you're just sort of, you know, get used to the vibe before you're like, and there was no producer cam at this point. So it wasn't like I was going to be on camera.

But on my first wave four episode, before I had any idea what was going on, like still learning the ropes, I'm like sitting back here in the corner and like you turn around Marques and you just go, Ellis, what do you think about that? And I was just like, I don't exist, I don't exist. No pressure. Yeah, this is a pretty classic intro.

But then yeah, by the time we get to 2023, David is a full-time permanent host. We are doing videos, we are cooking on YouTube. That was 23? Yeah, and it's been growing. It's for like permanent full-time, because you were on plenty of episodes before then. That's so crazy.

You hosted so many, so this morning I asked ChatGPT, how many episodes did David host before 2023? And it said 297. It has no idea. Considering there are 300 total episodes. It has no idea. It has no clue. Yeah.

But long story short, we're halfway through 2025. We're closing in on six years of this being a podcast. 300 episodes, lots of thoughts, lots of dishes washed, lots of trivia questions answered. I would love to know the stats on how many dishes have been washed. I think about that a lot. I think Spotify wrapped.

That would be an awesome section of Spotify. You washed 800 plates while listening to Waveform. But yeah, thank you for subscribing of course and for listening and for watching and for being a part of Waveform. Now, I'm locked in on chat. I'm just watching chat now. I wanna know what you guys wanna know.

Chat, are we good? I think we should just read from questions. Yeah. Yeah. I've just seen a lot of nice shirt, David. Oh, thank you. This is my party shirt for the live episode. Tried to make it colorful. Here's a random one.

Fittarista, will Fairphone 6 get a full review? Maybe. Oh, this is perfect. We would normally not keep talking through the, I don't know if you guys can hear the lawnmower. The air rake, what do you call it, air rake? Or lawnmower? Air rake? Air rake?

I've called it, I grew up on air rake and everyone else says leaf blower, but I grew up on air rake. I've never even heard of that. That sounds like what they called it. I thought that was a Twitch streamer. Airac, Airac is a YouTuber. And Airac sounds like what they would call it in the 50s

to like wow. Yeah, but it made so much sense. Cause as a kid I was like, yeah Airac, that makes perfect sense. What do you call the other one for like edges and- The trimmer? String trimmer? Oh, string trimmer.

Or weed whacker. The hedger. Oh the weed whacker, yeah. Wax weeds. Yeah, weed whacker's more on point. But yeah, we normally. This is our first debate of the month. We would normally stop recording when that makes noise,

but it's live. I normally would've cut that whole section, but now here we are. Yeah, exactly. Well, Fairphone 60, the full review. I don't know. You should. David says I should.

David has one, I do have one as well. Yeah, maybe. I think you should. That's a good idea. Let me know if you think we should. I need you to experience the Switch. True, we've been talking about this Fairphone 6 dumb phone Switch for like three episodes now. Yeah.

Good to know. Yeah. All right. Let's see, how old were you guys 300 episodes ago? So 2019? Yeah, 29. I was six years younger. 25?

Yeah. And I was tweeting all the time. Actually, yeah, how old were you? Six years ago when you tweeted that joke. Six years ago I was already doing waveform for six years. I don't know what you're talking about. Nice. I was in 2019.

You were a baby. I was six years ago. So a baby. You were just born. That was six years ago. So I would have been 21 years old. Never met Marques Brownlee. Wow. Innocent. Yeah.

I think I was 27 six years ago. I was a BB. I was 24. Yeah, I'm old, Ellis. You know time Adam never gives away secrets about himself. So I've known Adam for like 11 years and I still know nothing about him And believe me I asked I

Asked what's behind the beard, Adam? A really baby face. Just saying 4,000 people watching right now. Hey, that's what I said. Isn't that what I told you? You actually said like 4,300. I said 4,300 and something. I guessed 325, so I'm happy.

All right, what else are people asking? Let's see. Watch 8 Classic Review. I did just get the Watch 8 Classic, so else people asking? Let's see. Watch 8 Classic review. I did just get the Watch 8 Classic. So that's also candidate for review. And I'm doing a video on a bunch of other things related to it. So that might be an option.

Yeah. I saw Mr. Mobile saying like, it is the most beautiful smartwatch he's like ever worn and why are there pill shaped buttons and like a circular watch and there's so many software decisions that feel pretty rough about it. Yeah.

I'm surprised that he said it's the most beautiful watch cause he's like always been in on the, the nautical version of the Garmin. The captain, the Mark captain. It is a really nice looking watch. I think it's one of the nicest looking ones but they don't have two days of battery life. It's almost as nice looking as you.

Danny says, is Notion still King? We still use Notion. Define King. Yeah, King meaning it's our King. We use it here. But there's lots of options that we could also use. We are so built into Notion now that we're kind of just, it is our King.

Yeah. Yeah, boring answer. Best emoji. This is a good question. Objectively, you guys already know. Super fun times, what is it? The HDR one that Ellis made, clearly. No, I didn't make it, I found it. Let's do best, not default, but you know, like common emoji.

Comment emoji? No stickers, because my custom emoji stickers go crazy. What is a comment emoji? I'm going with the common. Common. Melting face. Melting face is amazing. That's my top.

I love melting face. It's not even hot in here yet, but I'm gonna use that emoji soon. I like upside down face. That just feels like a like, I don't, why is this happening? Yeah. I'm gonna look at my emoji keyboard

and see what I've been using recently. Do you have one, Ellis or Adam? A little scared. Mine is definitely the salute. I use that one all the time. Salute, Melti-Face are both really good. I used the Joker recently. Joker emoji? The Joker card. Oh card. You're saying that's best emoji? No. Oh you know what's really good? The Easter Island head. That's actually interesting. I love that one. I, so it's not a common emoji,

but I'd recently obtained a sticker that's the like looking down shame emoji while putting on the clown mask emoji. Yeah, combo emojis are in with AI. Tiny Media says, why do you guys have different microphones? Well, we might've answered this before. Yeah, Marques, why do we have different microphones?

Yeah, so you might notice that I'm the only one with a different microphone. There's a Shure SM7B over there. There's a Shure SM7B over there. There's a Shure SM7B over there. And then there's a Electra Voice RE27. It's because Marques and I sound too similar, so if we had the same mic, you would never know

that we were not the same person. Yeah, right. RE27. No, no, it's an RE20 blank ND. It's the broadcast variant of the 27. It's a little bit brighter. It still has the same person. Yeah, right. RE27. No, no, it's an RE20 blank ND. It's the broadcast variant of the 27. It's a little bit brighter. It still has the same proximity effect, like caging, but. I don't wanna argue with Ellis,

but I thought the RE27 was the broadcast version of the RE20. Yeah, I don't know. You're so right. I do have a degree in this, but argue all you want. Wait, am I right or wrong? No. It says RE27 ND on it.

Yeah, it says RE27 on it. But I got it just because of the brightness and how it sounds better with my voice. And then I just got used to it, and now my voice sounds muddy. Wait, can I switch to your mic for a second? No, Andrew, you are right, I'm totally wrong. See how much muddier it sounds?

Doesn't that sound dull and... So you gave us the muddy mics? No, just, it's, I simply got used to it. That's a pro boss move right there. I think you guys sound great on it, but I wonder if you use this mic, if it would sound bad also, because it's different.

You'll just never sound as great as he does. It does sound different. This is just good for my voice. I've used your mic before when you're gone, and I will use it after you're gone. Damn. And is that a threat? You decide.

It does sound weird on my voice for sure. Who's doing the camera cuts? Bumble, that would be Adam. Bumble? He's doing the camera cuts live as we talk. I'm trying my best, so give me some grace please. Which is, it's gone really well. Le Critic, what headphones do y'all daily drive?

Interesting question. Oh. I have two answers actually. We'll start it. Powerbeats Pro for working out. And then at the moment, Sony WH-1000XM6 for traveling and flights and everything else. Wait, Powerbeats Pro the OGs?

Oh, actually I have a third answer too. Powerbeats Pro 2. The current, sorry, the new Powerbeats Pro 2 while I work out. The Sony WH-1000XM6 when I'm traveling, but also while editing, what is on my desk? It's the Sennheiser HD650s on my desk. That's what I edit with.

So those are the three headphones that I use. That's a lot. There's a lot of headphones. Yeah, I've been using the Bose QuietComfort Ultra Earbuds because they have best noise cancellation by far. They do. Sony's just, oh, for buds? Yeah, Sony's are also incredible.

Their ANC is insane. Fair enough. Okay, let's, let's tell me which ones are better. You already know, bro. They're not. They're not even close. The AirPods are not even close. Mathematically.

No, they're not. They are. They're not. They are. I don't have a degree in No, they're not. They are. They're not. They are. They're not. They are. I don't have a degree in this and they're not. It's the kind of thing where like maybe maybe for your ears. Oh my gosh. They're like the shape of your ear canals they're better but I I promise. No. The AirPods Pro 2. They're horrible. Whoa. Whoa. Listen they sound really good. Yeah. I think the AirPods Pro 2 are the best sounding

headphones I have. But the noise cancellation is not even close to the best. You might have a bad fit. Yeah, then you have a bad fit. They are really, really bad. Why are the lightning ones, are they different? No, no, you're using the wrong ear tips, that means. Yeah, wait, are you talking about the wireless

noise canceling Pro 2? Silicon tip AirPods. The ones widely regarded as best in class. Yeah, but they're not as good noise cancellation. They are, they're not. I'm gonna look this up right now. You should mess with the tip size just to see if it gives you better tips.

There's different tips? There's like four tips. Yes, there's four. They come with a bunch of tips and you probably just kept the medium ones that are on it or whatever. Probably is all my really ear wax in it too. Yeah, anyway.

I use the Beats Fit Pro for working out. Oh right. And the Sonos Ace for mowing the lawn. Sonos Ace? Yeah. I do like them, they're comfy. They are. For mowing the lawn?

For mowing the lawn and flying. Yeah, I mean it's the over ear. What's the difference? Over ear, needed to be quieter, lots of white noise. Good noise canceling, yeah. Yeah, okay. All right, this is from Sound Guys, Adam's old employer, lots of white noise. Yeah, good noise canceling, yeah. Yeah, okay. All right, this is from Soundguys,

Adam's old employer, okay? Oh, snap. They're in the chat? No. You can't have him. Oh, oh. It's like a comparison article between the two, and they use a lot of scientific data

that Adam used to spend a lot of hours. Too many hours. Oh, someone said- Is that good? Someone just, well, this isn't even a question. It's too many hours. Oh, someone said- Is that good? Someone just, well this isn't even a question. Suresh Rajan said, haven't watched Jurassic Park, but have watched Jurassic World. Come on, Marques. And I'm gonna watch the new one.

I'm gonna watch the new one too. The new Jurassic World coming out. Oh, and skip the first one? I'll watch it eventually. That's so good. I'll watch it eventually. It's so easy to watch it that I don't feel rushed. You mean the original one? Yeah. I've seen parts of eventually. It's so easy to watch it that I don't feel rushed. You mean the original one? Yeah.

I've seen parts of it. It's probably streaming on Hooboo. I unironically used Tooby the other day. Yeah, not even kidding. It's real. Tooby is still real. I was trying to make one up in my head. Is it on Tooby or not Tooby?

They should only do Shakespeare. I have someone asking what the best budget keyboard is right now. And my, that's all you. Yeah. There's a lot. There's, there's plenty out on Amazon. It like hippie a tech will tell you, but the hippie June are one, I think, or just the hippie June, you still have to build it and buy all the switches

and everything, but it's the most most unique cheapest keyboard and out of all the nice ones that I have. It's the one I still use every day So that's my uh my favorite. Sorry. How much was that one? Did you mention it already? I don't it probably when you build everything if you do a very budget focus like 200 bucks Dang, that's a budget. fortunately budget in this world there's some good cheap magic magic keyboard that's what I was gonna say I was gonna be like if you're on a budget just Mariah says do not watch the new Jurassic Park it sucks she oh she saw it already yeah and it sucks did you that sounds like it's right on my I wonder if she saw it in 40x though cuz yeah Jurassic World no I

think she wanted to watch the F1 movie in 40X. I'll be honest. I love Jurassic. I'll be honest. I don't think I can possibly dislike a movie with good dinosaur graphics. With good dinosaur graphics? I think if the CG is really good

and the dinosaurs are very realistic, I'll enjoy it no matter what. Why don't we just bring them back? Well, that's like a whole plot. We already brought the wolves back, the dire wolves. That was like a whole bad thing that happened in the movie. Have you seen the movie? Yeah but like, I don't know. It went pretty poorly. We have like tanks and stuff. That's true. I don't think we should be that worried about dinosaurs.

Correction, Mariah just messaged me personally and said she did see it in 4D. I would not think any other way. I think she's driving home from vacation right now. Wait, someone just asked, what about the new Sony phone review? Is there a new Sony phone that I should know about? That's actually- Yeah, it just came out

and will actually come to market in seven months. Yeah, several follow-up questions to that. One, what is it and is it actually out or is it not coming out for six months? And two, is it actually good? Do you care about my opinion or are you actually just trolling? You might be trolling.

You might be trolling. Damn. Xperia 1 7? I would love to do an actual Sony review, but again, it's just like they announce it and then it comes out like seven months later and it's just kind of confusing. I give them a shot every time.

Every time I see them in my inbox, I go, oh, a new Sony phone. And then literally four out of the last five times I've done a Sony flagship phone review, it just, it starts off with some promise and they have some interesting things and then it goes downhill of like, wait, it's how expensive?

And they have what as their primary features and it just kind of falls apart. So I'm rooting for them, but they haven't given me much hope lately. Somebody asked, how did you come up with the name Wave 4? Do you remember this? Ooh, the name Waveform? Do you remember this? Ooh. The name Waveform?

I spoke to you guys in a dream. Yeah. OK, so we, yeah, do you remember exactly? Yeah, we were thinking of a lot of things that were audio puns in some way. And we actually decided with WVFRM, because it kind of sounds like a radio station. And also, if we, at that point, WVFRM, MKBHD fit on top of each other

as the same amount of letters. Then we started with Studio 71 and they were like podcast searching is terrible. If you don't, if you're saying waveform out loud, you should name it waveform spelled out loud. So that's why you might see WVFRM sometimes and waveform most of the time because podcast discoverability is terrible. Live see WVFRM sometimes and Waveform most of the time because podcast discoverability is terrible. Live from WVFRM Chicago. It kind of sounds cool. 65 degrees and sunny.

Also, we did that mistake with our channels when we were making the video channels. It's like the Waveform podcast and then the WVFRM clips. And it haunts me every day. Alex the dev, still using Arc? I have a lot to say about this. Are you still using Arc? I am not, I am using a mixture of Chrome and Zen browser now.

A mixture, interesting. And are you using Arc? I've never used Arc. You never used Arc, are you still using Arc? That's a complicated question. Okay, I am full time still using Arc. Yeah. That's my answer.

I am primarily still using Arc. I have been testing all of these new browsers that are coming out because there's like all these new eye browsers launching. I wanna know how you choose, because I was on, this is maybe spoiling as something, but I'm gonna do it anyway. I was just hanging out with someone,

I won't say who, who has a lot of cars, and I was like, how do you choose which car to drive? And I have the same question about you. You have multiple browsers. Why Zen versus Chrome? Like what makes you open a certain browser versus the other one? It's the same reason I told you about my cars

when we were hanging out. Yeah. It's the same. So you just wake up feeling, I feel like Zen today. Yeah, no, so the way I split it up is work I use in Chrome because I need all that to work. And then when I'm doing personal things, I'll use Zen browser.

Okay, so it's kind of location based too, sort of. I mean, when I'm at work, I have one browser open. Personal, I'll just have minimized. So if I ever need to search something or email someone, but then work in Chrome, I have working. I'm sort of just keeping tabs on all of them because I'm trying to see if this AI Assistant future that everyone keeps promising actually matters at all or if it's just gonna be like a metaverse kind of fad

So I got access to comment which is the new perplexity browser. How do you like it? Should we care it is just D It's not they're like exactly the same but is the search better? That's what I want to know. Well, it's not really search It's like it just talks to you. I don't know it's it I don't I Might be able to be convinced in the future But right now it feels like if I'm just talking to my browser I could just it would be better if I said a tab with jet GPT or something. No, just like or Gemini rather What were prex web perplexity wants you to do with Comet

is they want you to just like, it basically has a Google search tab in the center of the page. Instead of actually going to websites. Like they do have an assistant like Dia does on the side when you're actually on webpages, but their preferred way of interacting with the browser is just to talk to Comet, and it'll tell you answers

with like little mini sources but they prefer that you like don't even go to web pages it's sort of the thing it's all ai browsers just like the trust me bro just like no no no don't look stay here i'm trying everything is right the the people who are like really into it seem to be really into it but i don't really get it yet and maybe I will at some point and maybe I'm just don't you know but I don't know I but besides that I find myself on arc all the time because I keep trying to like the best feature of arc which is so stupid that it's so useful is just being able to hide the sidebar and then swipe your mouse over and it pops out that's like

that's all I want yeah it's all I want. Yep. Add it to Dia please. Also pin tabs and stuff like that and Dia still doesn't have that. So can I address a question real quick? Sure. Fernando Loza says, Ellis, what is your battery percentage? So I took my phone off the charger at about 8 a.m. this morning so that's like three and a half hours ago. Anyone wanna take a guess? 60%, Andrew? 47. 47, 42. I was gonna say 48.

48, Adam wins, I am at 43% battery life right now. I know my boy. Is that still a 12 mini or is that a 13 mini? It is a 12 mini and to all the people asking what phone I'm gonna get next, I'm holding out till September 2027 to hopefully go straight from 12 mini to folding iPhone. Something tells me this phone is going to explode before that.

Oh, Anmol Bhatia says iOS 26 thoughts so far. I've been testing it. Stay tuned. Okay, wait. If this beta had come out in the winter, David, you would feel completely differently. Because you would have a hand warmer wherever you go. That's true.

Dude, the amount of bugs that I have seen recently. Oh my God. Do you have the YouTube bug or any video playback bug? It's in YouTube and also Instagram Reels and stuff where it like, you click on it and then the screen goes black but the audio still plays and you have to like back out and go back in multiple times. This morning, my alarm went off, made no sound.

It was lighting up and doing the thing, no sound. A couple specific bugs, one of them is the eight sleep app when the bed thing is waking me up and I open the eight sleep app to dismiss it, that is when it crashes. So I can open the eightidsleep app any other time and it's fine. But I have to snooze it by hitting the sensor on the bed

and then the Aidsleep app will open without crashing. It's very strange. The other one is my keyboard no longer shows the letters above them when I'm typing, which is annoying. Yeah, it's just, those are just. Like when you type it and it goes up, it goes up. Yeah, when the little letter shows up above.

Your finger. They don't show up. Does that matter? Yeah, it's pretty useful when they show up. Marques, so you're on the beta on your iPhone. Are you also on the beta on your Android phone? On my Pixel, I have the latest Android 16 beta. And is that the one you're dailying?

No. Okay. That was also a little too buggy to daily. Having two daily drivers both in the development beta is crazy. I can't, yeah. I can't daily beta stuff. And even with Mac OS, because I use Final Cut,

I don't put the latest OS on my computer until the first.1 update, because Final Cut will absolutely have too many bugs to use until they update it. Even when it's not on like a development beta final cut is like hit or miss. Yeah. You never know.

Someone said how much AI do you use in your daily life? I like. Outside of work. Gemini for like fun. I don't really trust it because it still kind of lies a lot. So I use like Gemini Live. Gemini Live can be helpful

and even if it's wrong, it leads me in the right direction So, you know, it's kind of fun to like show it things but sometimes it's useless That's pretty much what I do and I don't I don't use it that frequently either. It's like every few days Yeah, I use Gemini probably once or twice a day. Okay. I don't use it at all No, it's not even like necessarily I just haven't incorporated or found one that I specifically like so I don't use it at all. No AI at all. It's not even like necessarily, I just haven't incorporated or found one that I specifically like, so I don't pay for any of them. And therefore I don't,

the most AI I see during a day is scrolling past the Google AI overview so I can look at actual links and figure out the real answer. Fair enough. Also, Big Blue asks, Andrew, are you still using Google tasks? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Wait, can I see? He's deep in. Whoa. I have a question, because I can now see how many tasks I've completed. You are? I don't like that feature. You don't?

I don't really understand. I also don't like it. You don't like how many you've completed? It's just always there. It's persistent forever. It's just there at the bottom. It's like, I've been using this app for 12 years. I guess I'm always using it in the widget,

so I don't always see it unless I'm in it, but does that show, so that doesn't show, oh no, it does show, reoccurring ones, right? I'm almost at 500 completed tasks. Whoa. Someone says who is the tallest in the room, and I have to, okay, look, I'm not insecure, first off. I'm not insecure, First off, I'm not insecure.

But everyone in this room is taller than me and I'm like slightly taller than average height. I'm 5'10 1⁄2 and the US average male height is 5'9". These men are too tall. You got a tall room. It's annoying. I've completed 15,767 tasks since I started. I'm not insecure.

Allegedly. So I think Marques is the tallest in the room right now. Is he taller than me? Oh yeah. No, no, yeah, I think. Pretty close. Cause Andrew, I think you and I are like about the same height. Yeah, Marques probably has like an inch on me.

But Alex probably has an inch on Marques. No, Alex is the tallest one in the studio. I think it's really funny cause I, like as a universal reaction to meeting Marquez they're like He's so much taller that is the number one most common comment that I get in real life is You're taller than I expected when we go to CES I used to be able to like

Find you easily because I could see over the majority of the floor and just find Marquez But at the same time that means everybody always sees where Marquez is on the floor. This is true. Someone told me once after meeting me and being like, wow, you're a lot taller than I thought, they were like, you know, on the podcast, you give really short guidance.

Interesting. And what does that mean? Yeah, hey buddy, watch it. Wow, as a true said, I've completed 29,989 tasks on Todoist. That's serious. Okay, wait, I have a question about this now that we're down to Dramacole. Is it one of your tasks, drive to work every day?

No, it's a calendar event. It's a calendar event, totally different. Okay, my question is, you guys don't clear that out? You just leave it there? What? Every time I complete a task, I hate seeing it on the bottom. Like I always go in and like remove it.

I had to go into the settings to look at my account to see how many I had completed. Oh, okay, so it keeps them forever? Yeah, it's got this organization, shows you which day of the week you're most productive and like how many times you miss. Oh, to do is. This is tick tick for me.

Oh, tick tick. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I was thinking Google tasks, I was like, where is that? Oh, no, no, no, no. Tasks is a sort of baseline functionality. Yeah. Okay. Somebody said, thoughts on Elmo.

Did you say that? Oh, it happened Elmo yesterday. Wait, what? You can't say that! You should! Elmo got hacked yesterday. He got hacked. It's probably not the best day.

He said some stuff. He said some bad things. That's not what I thought. I was just gonna say, go. I love Elmo, but yeah, his Twitter got hacked. Okay, I did not see that. I was like. F1 movie was great.

Okay, people, oh, the studio. The studio is saying F1 movie was great. Have other people seen the F1 movie? No. No, my friend texted me on Sunday of Silverstone and said, did you see F1? And I was like, yeah, that was such a sick race. One of the best ones I've seen.

He's like, no, the movie. And I was like, I don't want to talk about that right now. I've not seen it yet. I may watch it soon. Gizmo sauce wants to know what's everyone's favorite cheese. I knew Ellis was going to find this question. So for those that don't know, we've there's been many a cheese related argument in the studio about like blue cheese's efficacy about whether stinky cheese is good

Period about whether certain cheeses belong on burgers. This is like a pretty common lunchtime argument I think the last one was what is your Mount Rushmore of cheese? Yeah. Yeah, that was a long conversation Rushmore that's for it. Yeah. Wait the Mount Rushmore conversation was about nuts. It was what was your- No, it was about cheese. Was it? Pistachios. Pine nuts up there. Pine nuts are definitely up there.

But that's crazy taking. What? Dude. Whoa. Hear me out. Wait, Marques, you don't like pine nuts? Olive oil, pine nuts, pizza. Hey everybody, this guy doesn't like pesto.

Yeah, pesto too. Pesto with pine nuts is like... How about- Well, I was gonna do cheese. Cheese, are you doing Rushmore or just favorite cheese? I guess. Rushmore's a lot. Rushmore's a lot of thinking. Rushmore and you have to compare each cheese

to one of the presidents. I think I'm going just basic mozzarella. It has to be on your Mount Rushmore if it's not, I don't know what your list is. Low moisture or high moisture? High as hell. Throw it on a sandwich in Mount Rushmore. If it's not, I don't know what your list is. Low moisture or high moisture? High as hell. Throw it on a sandwich, it's versatile. You can take it down, put it on a chicken parm or whatever.

I like just mozzarella as a solid. But parm is parmesan. Yeah, but you put mozzarella on it too. It uses several types of cheese. Maybe I'm a bit weird with the mozzarella and parmesan. No, that's what it's chicken parmesan. If they can do four cheese mixes. Oh, pepper jack, wow. Great point. Okay, I

Love pepper Jack pepper Jack and and mozzarella. I won a and one B for me where you add on Swiss. That's fine Okay, it's not necessarily a good mix. It's a fair take. I just like that as holes. I Like provolone I want to just get past problem is fire provolone I think is my top but it's really hard to not put American in. Everyone's gonna hate on American, but the Primo melty cheese. Yeah, the Primo melty cheese. Also the American variants like Cooper Sharp.

That's a man's cheese right there. Some said I'm not sure. Marquez, if you like mozzarella on your parmigiana, pasta bake stuff, let me recommend Fontina for you. Oh, I've had that. I could see you really, really enjoying a big slice of Fontina. He loves feta and it's pretty cool.

No, I do not like crumbly cheeses at all. Yeah, it's because he hates the feta verse. That's tough for me, because the feta verse is pretty cool, but feta is bad. Blue cheese is trash. What is feta rated for you? Brie can just, if it never existed, I'd be totally fine. What's your Fedda rating?

Fedda? Yeah, your Fedda rating. The cheese? Am I Fedda rating? You're making a weird pun right now. I don't know what's happening. But I wanna know where it is on your list. I don't know, Fedda's like-

Your Fedda rating. Boo. Oh brother. This guy stinks. Someone said favorite podcast episode, but I don't know if they mean out of ours or like. I think they could mean out of ours. Out of ours.

Or I saw someone else ask. I think sacred history. I know, I can episode, but that's because Alice and Adam and I got to drive to Virginia and stay in a small hotel. That's true. Oh wow. Someone just said, my name is Marquez. So I should like queso.

Duh. Oh nice. Also Claire just texted me and said, I'd listen to this podcast more consistently if there was cheese conversations every week. I feel like we have them fairly frequently. My favorite, she's my favorite podcast episode was whichever one had the infamous egg argument in it.

What the? It's a frittata. That was, I was missing that week, and I watched that episode and I was like what the hell is going on? Yeah. Sometimes we just go off the rest a little bit, that's fine. Marques, have you had a Frittata

since engaging that argument? I don't think so, no. Okay. Someone asked if I've tried the new Telegram to-do list feature, which I did not know existed and I'm very excited about. I also have to tell you Becca Forsachi friend of the show she had a problematic fave PowerPoint presentation party at her apartment a few weeks ago and my presentation was telegram problematic fave. The thing you love

even though it's kind of problematic. It gets used in problematic ways. My new neighbor works at Signal and when they told me like, cocotte, I pronounced it wrong on that episode, it's oof cocotte, but when my new neighbor was like, oh yeah, I work at Signal, I had to pause for a sec and I just asked them, I was like, is that the evil one or is that? I mean, they do have hootie war plans, so.

All right. Okay, Chengdu do says Marquez's favorite EV. I might also have to go Mount Rushmore cause there's no top top like favorite I've ever driven. I think is the lucid air Sapphire. Just overall capability range performance suspension. It's like a dining room built into a missile. It's incredible. It's a luxury experience room built into a missile. It's incredible. I agree.

It's a luxury experience on top of a missile. Yeah, it's awesome. But if you need a truck, then I'm thinking Rivian R1T. But if you need a sports car, there's not that many EV. I mean, I like 5X. What do you know? Fire. The Rivian.

Porsche Taycan. Taycan, sick. I still haven't gotten to drive the Taycan Turbo GT, which Miles got to review. I'm very curious about that, but I think it's probably awesome. And then, what was the other one? You just mentioned a different one.

Oh, Fisker Ocean. No, you said, it was a different easy. I guess I'll, whatever. Which I see a lot of Fisker Oceans. The canoe. I've started seeing even more. Car, sedan, truck. Didn't you like the EV6 a lot?

I like the EV6 GT. It's not like buyable. I mean you can, it's fine. It has trash range, but it is really fun. Someone asked my favorite cameras or dream cameras. I personally right now think still for now that the X100 VI is the best digital camera ever made. What?

Best digital camera ever made. David, I can't help but think this is a- David, it has a fixed lens. Bit of a hot take. I love it. You're crazy. Have you ever used a T3i? Wait, okay David, let me dig into this a little bit.

Objectively the best or your favorite ever? Cause there's a difference. Yes. Okay. Cause objectively there are cameras that are better. Isn't this your joke David? Objectively it's the Hasselblad. Yeah, yeah.

Let's just take the Hasselblad X2D for example, interchangeable lenses, larger sensor, more megapixels, more detail, better color, better color. No, sorry. I don't know the X106, I've been thinking about this a lot because I did a review of the X106 after I had the X100V for four years and the X6 is like it has a few minor upgrades and at at first I was like, yeah, you know. But now I'm like, yeah, I know. It's like, it is like so much, the IBIS is really good, the 40 megapixel sensor, it's BSI now, everything about it.

It's freaking amazing. Do you ever wish it was interchangeable lenses? No. Do you ever wish, I could take an ultra wide right now? Well, I have two lens adapters for it. So Fuji makes these adapters that turns it into a 28 millimeter and a 50 millimeter. 28 and a 50.

And it's 40 megapixel sensors you can also crop in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But if you had a 70 to 200 on there, bang. Then it would be this big. Yeah, fair. Well, you know what they say, the best camera

is the one you have with you. No, it's not. It's the iPhone 12 mini. This is embarrassing, but over the 4th of July break, I day-lead a Sony A7 for the first time after being a longtime Sony camera hater. A7, yeah, they're good. The A7 one is pretty legendary.

I had a A7R Mark III and bro. I know there's faster burst modes now, but on the first day I took 15 gigabytes of stills because I just I was just only like 15 gigs yeah I think the best best film camera is the Fuji TX one okay we're done all right favorite Taco Bell item oh I mean cheesy cheese potatoes cheesy potatoes. Oh, good choice. Thank you. Have you done the spicy potato soft taco?

No. Is that new? Next time? No, it's been around forever. It's just like a cheap thing that nobody sees. For me, Taco Bell is like the first four generations of Pokemon, you know? Perfect. Like, I don't know anything after that because that's when I stopped.

Taco Bell, the last time I ordered Taco Bell really it was like 15 years ago so I don't know any of the new items. What'd you like 15 years ago? I mean the the circular thing was amazing. The Mexican pizza or the Crunchwrap? Crunchwrap Supreme I think is supreme but I also used to love the seven layer burrito okay because I was vegetarian for like 10 years. Do you have one Alice? Of course, of course I have one i i know there's so many good wild things on the menu you know what i mean but the thing that 100 of the time just like puts a smile on my face is the i forget do they call it supreme or deluxe the supreme the Doritos Locos taco supreme with the sour cream no do but do a cheesy gordina crunch with Doritos Locos.

They're speaking another language. Wait, you can do that? You can make the inside of the Gordina Doritos shelf? Then that is my favorite. I can't pick, I love all my children the same. Peter says. But actually it's okay. I'm gonna do a couple of rapid fire ones. Marquez, when is the Samsung unpacked review upload?

Already happened, check the channel. Adam, I love your tattoos, can you show them? I mean, I guess. This is gonna be very weird for audio listeners. I wanna tell a story about Adam's tattoos. Okay. What story? Because, so when I moved to New York to take this job,

Adam and I were neighbors. I moved into the same neighborhood in Brooklyn as Adam. And so for the first year of me working here, Adam and I would carpool to work every single day. It was super duper fun. We hung out so much. But it was the kind of thing where Adam and I, I had just met Adam and now we're carpooling

every single day. We had no prior relationship or friendship. And so I see, I'm like, I'm sitting shotgun with this like, you know, dude, Adam had sort of like really short buzz cutty sort of hair at the time. He's got tattoos all over his arm, you know, grew up in New York. I'm like, damn, this dude's hard.

Like this dude is like a real, a real, a real fucking guy next to me. And then finally I'm like, yo, like what's that tattoo? Like asking about his sleep. And he's like's like oh the whole arm is Harry Potter tattooers I was like oh this guy's a big softy amazing yeah it's all Harry Potter sleeve yeah but what if he was really into Voldemort then he wouldn't be a softy you know yeah what if you had the dark mark? Yeah. I debated it. I debated the dark mark, but I did not get it. Yeah.

I have a dark mark on my lower back. And we'll move on from that. It's just a natural thing. No one ever asked about my tattoo. You have one? Yeah. Do you want them to? I mean, I don't really like that.

I'm surprised you didn't know you had a tattoo. Ellis, tell us about your tattoo. Marquez in the chat says, Ellis, tell us about your tattoo. Ellis. Marquez in the chat says, Ellis, tell us about your tattoo. That'll be episode 600. Oh, all right, Marquez, that'll be episode 600. Yeah. I looked at that, I would just be turning 40

for episode 600, probably. I know. Miss Queen says, will there be a segment where they answer questions from the audience? Jesus. Can I, there's been a few audio questions. Can I rapid fire those real quick? All right, what's the best way to get into audio?

Buy a cable, an SM7B and a Focusrite 2i2 and record literally everything and then just make it better every time. Why did we ditch the Tascam Model 12? Because it had this weird bug where if you accidentally overwrote an existing recording on there, the clock would get weird and you couldn't sync anything and it made Adam's life really difficult.

Also now we have the Sonic View 16, this absolute beast of a board. I think those are the only. I can barely see you back there behind that thing. Oh my gosh. No, but I think that's, I think those were actually all the audio questions, so. That's so, yeah.

Someone did say what degree do you have? Cause you were asking. I have a degree that sounds made up from a school that doesn't exist anymore. I have a bachelor of science in music, business, entrepreneurship and technology. Business is not science, Alice. I know, neither is entrepreneurship or technology.

Technology is very science. Yeah, well the joke is that every year they would change I know neither is at entrepreneurship or technology Yeah, well the joke is that every year they would change whether there was that first comma there So some years it was music business and the others years it was music comma business But why would you need comma business when the next word is entrepreneurship? doesn't make any sense to me anyway, the school is called the University of the Arts and It's spectacularly exploded last year. Not with like a literal explosion. Oh geez, I thought that was bad. No, no, no, it was pretty amazing though.

It was like the president or CEO, whoever the highest person at the school just emailed everyone and was essentially like, Friday, we're done. Teachers, you're fired. Students, transfer. Peace. Dang. That's what I would do. Mic drop. Mic drop, yeah, transfer, peace. Dang.

That's what I would do. Mic drop. Mic drop, yeah, so that's my life. It's pretty good. Anta Seb says, any chance of getting a Xiaomi SU7 for review? I do want to, I've been working on that. Also, I saw people asking about the Model Y.

I've also been working on that, so both of those are on the list. We wanna check those out. Someone asks, how has Ultimate Frisbee been this year? Can we get an update? And also, what is the next Google product that you think will get killed? So, Ultimate's been going well.

I will be telling people more about Ultimate this year in an upcoming video because there's gonna be a lot more of it this summer. The next product that Google will kill is, I feel bad speaking this into existence, but it's probably Google Chat. Is that even what it's called? Sorry, Google Talk is what it's called right now.

And it exists still. No, it's Google Speak. It's called Google Chat. No, Google Talk still exists. No, it doesn't. It's inside of Gmail. It's Chat. Is it called Chat now?

I believe so. So it was formerly Talk, but Chat. They use it for Enterprise, so I don't think it'll ever go away. Then it's probably Tasks or Keep. I'm done with Tasks going away. Hey. Whoever said I give off five, seven energy?

Keep that to yourself, man. Oh no, they meant in centimeters. Oh, wait, that's even shorter. Someone said Hangouts, Google keep, Google drive. Yeah, let's see what you guys think Google's killing next. Pixel tablet they say. Somebody has been asking us a hundred times, favorite Pringle flavor.

Ooh, so I just tried the Miller Lite beer brought once. No way. Excited for that? They have that? Yeah, they're fine. They're like not great. Here's the thing with Pringles, right? For years, for years, I sat there with my hand

halfway down a tube, just praying that one day they would release a spicy Pringle, because I love hot chip. And for years, there were no spicy Pringles. And then they did. Now you can get spicy Pringles, and it turns out they're not that good, actually. That's like a chip form factor

that never needed to be spicy. So I'm gonna have to go with, oh wait, this is actually insane, are you ready? Day to day out on the town, sour cream and onion. Same. Okay. With my coffee in the morning. You eat chips in the morning? Only, I think- Just pull me out of a can.

I think a cup of black coffee and a mini can of cheddar cheese Pringles. It's like such an awesome combination. No, no, the orange ones. This is how I know you lived in Philadelphia. I think you're thinking of Ruffles. Those are the cheddar sour cream. No, in Philadelphia you can get,

it's the chip form, chip cast now, but in Philadelphia you can get a hers cattle cooked chips that is cheddar and horseradish Oh, they're so good. They're so horseradish II like your nose will run by the time you're done with the bag. It's amazing Alright, I'm team pizza Because they put a little dried basil in it there's like just a hint of herbaceousness that it's so Gets the Italian in me. It's so good Um, can I pick zuri up a sheet? No, it's it's zuri time

so those of us that were those of you that were in the the chat before the episode may have seen my uh, Dog my my dog foreshadow and uh, there is a dog right here Although I have no idea how we'll get her elevated and you should take the headphones off if you're gonna pick her up Underneath her arms her fun pause We're orchestrating. I wonder if you could just put her on the chair Every time we put a dog in a spinny chair, it never goes Someone asked if I was gonna start a camera channel and I know if I should or if I should just not all right chat

This is the way we haven't said chat yet. You could try that chat I started separate camera channel or do I put it all on my oh, oh, that's the question. That's the question I think you keep it on the same thing so I Think so we'll see what you can decide if you trust me or 5,000 random people on the internet or Sounds like I tried to pick her up, up and then she just turned into a mat. Oh my God. Favorite technology connections video. This might be like this is targeted towards me exactly.

I've watched them all too. My favorite technologies connection. Well, I think this, this, the RCA CED series is really, really good. But the one that like really changed my life the first time I saw it is the one called there's magic inside Your VCR. I watched that and then immediately scoured the curbs

of Philadelphia until I found a VCR. Wait, that was the first time you bought a VCR? Yeah, I mean, I was doing a lot of cassette stuff at the time, like I was taking apart a lot of cassette decks and repairing them and fixing the belts and stuff, and so I thought I understood how a VCR worked. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I gotta mess around with this.

And then I realized VCRs are way too complicated for your boy to repair meaningfully. I've done like small repairs. Yeah. Okay. Next question. Andrew versus Ellis cage match. I've seen that a bunch.

That's not even a question. My knees have been hurting pretty bad lately. I think you've really okay And you guys weigh in on this because pros versus cons I feel like I might have a little bit of reach on you. I think so And your knees are not very good. What martial art are you trying to do? Like this is like this is a street fight It's a cage match. Yeah, whatever I think then just your idea. I think you're way stronger than me.

I also think you could take a decent amount, more of a beating than I could. I have a decent pain tolerance because I've hurt myself way too many times. I think I would get hit in the face once and rethink everything. All right, next studio video. I wanna talk about fighting more.

Someone wants to know everyone's astrological signs. OK. Why? I know mine. I have a pixel in the back. That's all I know. Yeah, I'm a Sagittarius. That's it.

Cancer. Gatorade. That'd be a sex sign. What flavor? Wait, that would be awesome if it was just like Pisces. Gatorade. That's like one of, Sagittarius, Gatorade. That's like one of the coolest. What flavor Gatorade?

Mountain Dew. What's your birthday, David? They just- April 25th. Astrological. I could just tell you. Oh, you know it. Taurus. Yeah, I thought you were gonna say Gemini,

which would be crazy. That would be crazy. Why would that be crazy? Because we were just talking about Gemini before. Is anyone in here at Gemini? No. Good. No, they're Geminis.

I do, I love my Geminis. That's like a really Gemini thing of you to say, Ellis. Someone says, do you miss anything about your Model S plaid? Could have Grok right now. Yeah, that's a great question. Oh, someone says they're Gatorade too. The only thing that I really miss is the ability

to like truly go like drive itself in traffic. Like if it was bumper to bumper traffic and I just wanted to kind of sit back and stretch my legs, it would drive itself. That's basically it. Yeah. Front trunk is the same. Yeah, that's pretty close.

That's about it. Someone said, what's everyone's video game platform preference PS 5 I'm sacrilegious. I play I basically only play dota 2 and I play it on my MacBook Pro I get 120 FPS On even I know that the maxie. Oh, come on. What's wrong with it? I mean it has random horrible bugs, but besides that I know that's a crazy answer. No, come on, what's wrong with it? I mean, it has random horrible bugs, but besides that, I think it's fine.

I also really like the, I've been using a lot of emulator devices recently. They're really fun. Just like little, I have a Game Boy Advance SP one, and I've been playing Pokemon Pinball Ruby Sapphire, which I had when I was a kid, and it's freaking great. I just keep pausing and there's like such unhinged questions.

Like what? Someone says, do you have a mortgage? Do you, do any of you speak a second language? Do you speak a second language? Ellis personality does not, is this about my height again? You can't keep baiting them. What do you speak? If it's not.

Yeah, Deutsch. Deutsch? I can kind of understand some Spanish, but I don't really speak it fluently. Deutsch is German. No, I'm just saying, that's my answer. Oh, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh, what else did they say? Um. They speak, yeah. Oh, am I gonna get a dog? I don't think I'm going to get a dog as long as I have access to dogs. That's how I feel about cats, you know? I had cats and then they peed on my bed six times,

and then I, well, I was, okay, to beed on my bed six times and then I well I was okay to be clear I was fostering and returned they got they got adopted But now I'm like, you know, I could go with not peed on bed. That's good. I Do love cats. They're the best. I definitely have the brain worm that the cat gives you So I'm said Marquez when you reviewed your car, you said it was a nine out of ten of everything But what is the nine out of 10 of everything in EVs? I think, and they said not a Tesla, but the answer is a Lucid Air Sapphire.

It's actually a 10 out of 10 acceleration, but it's nine out of 10 of everything else. Not the Hummer EV, how dare you? The Hummer EV is something special. You know what's crazy? I can say this even though the video's not out yet. I'm currently testing the Cadillac Escalade IQ right now. I can't beat that, so it's live now.

Yeah, it's out there. And the auto-focus video is coming up, but this thing is, I think the title has to be like, this is a living room on wheels, because it's basically, this is a 200 kilowatt hour battery. It's 9,000 pounds, it's longer than an F-150, it has three rows, it has all the storage, all of the materials, and I plugged it in, actually when we first got it,

it had 92% battery left, and it was reading 450 miles of range. That's a lot, that's crazy. I haven't seen 450 miles of range in years. I don't think any other than the Lucids. I don't think I've seen 400 plus in real world range. So, shout out to the 200 kilowatt hour battery underneath that living room on wheels.

That thing is crazy. Interesting, yeah. Can I, I just wanna say something about that. You know what I mean? Because, frankly, Cadillac, shame on you. Just make a smaller, less heavy car, please. Well they do. They is the smallest one and they make the lyric and I was just thinking as I passed By a lyric this morning. This is the mega lyric. This is the mega like It's huge. Why can't just make a blimp if you want to make something that big make it really slow and up in the air

Where it can't hurt anybody? Yeah, it is. I'm also to everyone coming about the audio thing. I think our internet is Having having a little bit of a day today. All right, well, we'll probably go 10, 15 more minutes. Should we go, how should we end this? Just rapid fire answering questions? Yeah, I'm trying to start some sort of argument, man. We had such a good argument during the test stream. Someone said something that I felt really stupid about. That trivia question about the things that io could mean

There's literally a character in Dota 2 called io. Wow. I can't believe I didn't find that. Yeah I mean, I never play him. So oh, yeah, he's a floating orb That's it. He's the oh Is io op is io has been OP in previous metas, yeah. Not currently OP. Wait, I don't think we ever, Andrew, what's your gaming platform of choice? Did you ever answer that?

Probably computer. For a very long time it was Xbox. What's a computer? What's a computer? Sorry, I had to. It's just a reflex. An iPad is a computer now. When people say computer, I just like reflexively. Everything's computer.

Someone says, do I do wedding engagement photos? Yeah, hit me up. I have an email address. Maria Smith, Marquez, how much longer do you see yourself playing Ultimate 4? I don't know. Until I can't, until I literally can't. And then I get to steal them for disc golf finally?

Then I just switch full-time to golf golf, I think. No, no! I think. What if it was a little like both? The problem is I'm already decent at golf, I think. No, no. I think. What if it was a little like both? The problem is I'm already like decent at golf, so it would be like a hard learning curve to get good, to get that good at disc golf. I could be swayed, I could try it.

Okay, I'll try it. But you know, golf golf. Someone says what's your hottest tech? I'm convinced that Marques is just gonna retire and become a coach. Yeah. Oh yeah, that'd be good. That's my lower peruse.

So I've thought about that. I have the, become a coach. That's my lower peruse. That's not fun. I've thought about that. I have the, I go on and off with, do I have the brain to be a coach? I was a captain of my college team. That kind of felt like coaching because there's a lot of beginners on the team.

I've done some clinics where I go back to my old high school and talk to the kids, and the kids who are already pretty good and sort of give them fundamental advice on playing better. But coaching a team is like X's and O's on the field against an opponent and I'm not as like fully in tune with like, I don't do scouting that much. I'm very much an individual scout.

I'm like, here's how to guard this one player and how I'll maximize it. But the whole team thing is, I don't have that vision, visionary ability yet. Marques, I think you're gonna get into tennis after Ultimate. I have tried tennis once before. I think I was really bad at it.

I know, I know, but just seeing how good your specific brain is for ping pong, I think you're gonna watch one tennis tournament and see what those guys are doing and be like, oh, I'm kinda interested in that. That's hard on the knees though, isn't it? It is, but also people regularly play tennis in their 60s.

It's harder on your elbow. But if you're in shape, you know what to do. You got it. True, I'm gonna wanna use my cardio in some way because golf does not use my cardio. My mother, still up there in age, still playing four days a week. Of tennis, tennis. What?

And is like pickleball on her radar or is she just like anti? I'm not gonna speak for my mom, but I don't think she would ever get even close to a pickleball. That's what I hear from tennis players. Yeah. Woo woo woo! Stop.

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Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Someone said do you guys have a hot tech take for the year so far? Yeah. For the year? Like hot tech take for the year?

I assume it would be like, what's the trend this year? If the Nothing Phone 3 was $4.99, it would be, People wouldn't be mad nothing this year if the nothing phone 3 was 499 it would be People wouldn't be universally accepted over this design coldest take possible No, I think the design is like easy to make fun of because it's expensive But I think if it was 499 if it was a good phone for money people would ignore the design I don't think that many people are making fun of the I think there's people making fun of the design a little bit But most people are the true mad is not a hot enough take

then my hottest tech tech is that Apple is like in it's not good era right now. That's it's like on its way out. I agree. What kind of not good. I like it feels sort of like a dip for the company where none of their design design decisions seem to me making a lot of sense. Like even with liquid glass, they've already scaled it back to the point where none of their design decisions seem to me making a lot of sense. Even with Lickit Glass, they've already scaled it back

to the point where it's so different, and it feels like there's not cohesive leadership at the design level. And yeah, so I feel like they're in a dip right now. Lost their plot. Aura a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it just feels like they got forced to get sidetracked with all the AI stuff

because of their stock price. And then eventually they realized they didn't necessarily really have to do that. So this year they went back to just machine learning stuff, which is good, but with the design stuff without Johnny Ive or like, you know, and I'm glad we got the thick MacBooks again, so. Huge. That's good, but yeah, I don't glad we got the thick MacBooks again, so. Huge.

That's good, but yeah, I don't know. It just sort of feels like they're just making a lot of really bad product decisions right now and it feels like they're in their dip era. Dip era I agree with, I don't think. They're not on the way out. No, they're not on the way out. They're definitely just having a tough two years for sure.

And it's so much weirder because they're usually. Also vision pro. Yeah, for sure. I have a tactic, but it's so much weirder because there's usually, yeah, Fisher. I have a tech take but it's pretty hot so maybe. Let's do it. Let's do it. It's pretty hot. IOS 26 data.

I think, I think it's sort of a two part take. The first part is that we've sort of gone over this crest in tech right now where it feels like getting VC funding as a tech company is more important than getting customer sales. In a lot of places it is. And for that reason, more and more companies are quote unquote pivoting to AI.

And my actual hot take is that the quickest way a tech company can ruin their brand image, possibly forever, is by publicly pivoting to AI. And I get that in our circle. It's like, oh, like Notion has an AI now. Like, oh, this has an AI now. Oh, the Domino's app, Pizza AI. I don't think that exists.

But among my non-tech friends, I now know five or six people who as soon as an app they like is like, check out our new chat bot, check out our new AI, instant delete, cancel subscription, get it out. Because none of these products work. I mean, look, like I use use Claude, Claude sorta works, but I would still give it only a 30% success rate

every time it's queried for giving me something that's useful. So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say it. If you're thinking about pivoting your company to AI, you will probably make money in the long run, but everyone will hate you. Dominos does use it. All right, I am now officially a Papa John.

No, I live in New York. You guys know about Papa Murphy's? What is Papa Murphy's? It's called Taken Bake Pizza. This is a NorCal thing. Oh, this is the one where like you. Yeah. Yeah.

So basically you go in, they make the pizza for you, but they don't cook it. And then you bring it home and you cook it yourself. That's kind of cute. Except, except, except you need a real solid oven. And it's still not good pizza to be clear. It's not that good, but it is better than like hot pizza. Sure.

Well it's already not good pizza and it's sitting in a box. It's better than Papa John's. It's way better pizza than like Papa John's. It is kind of shocking how much better a pizza can come out of your oven when you just put a rock in there with it. It is like Papa John's. It is kind of shocking how much better a pizza can come out of your oven when you just put a rock in there with it. It is like fascinating.

Like you ever make like a DiGiorno's rising crust frozen pizza, but put a pizza stone in your oven? Or better yet, Andrew, do you have a three rack oven? Yeah. You ever use two pizza stones, one on top, one on bottom? Yeah, racks on racks on racks. I also have a pizza oven. Oh, I'm Andrew. I have a backyard with a pizza oven. Okay. Oh, I'm Andrew.

I have a backyard with a pizza oven in it. Yeah, I live in a cellar. I think my tech take, so. Oh wait, David, you literally live in a cellar. I live in a cellar. It's better than the rattlesnake den, but. Dave, when you say I live in a cellar, I'm just picturing you behind like a cage

with a sleeping guard and keys dangling out of his pocket. You're desperately trying to convince a dog to go like, he has like a stick trying to like get the keys off his sleeping belt. Did I stutter? OK, OK. So tech take. I think Android is going to be the cool one again. That's something I've been working on all year. Again.

Yeah. Well, I guess for the first time. That's fair. It was cool to me. It was cool to me for a while. I think Android was cool for a while, and then the whole Blue Bubble thing made iMessage just like the far and away leader in Apple. The far and away leader for the past. Talking about in the US.

Yeah, in the US. Yeah, no, in the US. Well, even, yeah, I'll stick it just to the US. I did have a normie friend tell me yesterday, because she was thinking about switching to the Fairphone 6, which was like crazy. That's not a normie friend. You don't know how that sounds.

That doesn't exist. She heard about Fairphone, because she wanted to be more fair to the worldphone 6, which was like crazy. That's not a normie friend. That doesn't exist. She heard about Fairphone because she wanted to be more fair to the world, I guess, or something. And I was like, oh, there's a new one coming out. I told her about it. And I was like, but you know, you have to get off Ipe Message. And she's like, um, yeah. I mean, I kind of think that green bubbles are

kind of like counterculture rebellious now. And I was like, oh. That's what I mean. I think the pendulum swing is coming back for the green bubble. I need the pendulum swing. Ellis reacted thumbs down. Texting people that.

OK, we got a couple of bangers in a row. One of them was Dn says, what do you think about the Roadster? Are you still getting one for free? No one has any idea. There was a random Elon tweet recently that was like, just saw the coolest tech demo in the design studio and people tagged me about it, like, what do you think Marques? And I was like, are we really gonna react to a tweet

about a teaser, about a demo, about a product that's still not out? I got nothing to say. The other one was, what's your Wawa order? Oh, that's a comment. That's not a Slack message. It's a real comment. So underscore yo. Are we ordering Wawa? No, this is a real comment. I think they were. Wawa order? Oh. That's a comment. That's not a Slack message. It's a real comment. So underscore yo.

Are we ordering Wawa? No, this is a real comment. I think they were. Wawa's already ordered. Wawa's already ordered, but also people in the chat wanna know what your Wawa order is. Okay. So did you order Wawa today?

I didn't, but I can. You should ask someone if you can still order Wawa. Don't go hungry. That was this morning. I am hungry. That right. I think we did it at like 11. We have a Wawa.

He said orders closed an hour ago. Yeah, we have a Wawa orders Slack channel. 11 a.m. Just to be clear. Okay, my order is, I like the honey smoked turkey shorty with mustard and everything else. That's a sandwich, by the way. Just for those.

Oh, the hoagies, yeah. And shorty means small. Small, small size. Small sandwich. I get everything onys, yeah. And shorty means small. Small, small size. Small sandwich. I get everything on it though. Like every ingredient. Right now, Italian sub with provolone, lettuce, hot peppers, Old Bay, oil vinegar, extra of that.

And then right now there's these like crispy pickle chips that you can put on it. Fantastic. That's nice. They never put enough oil I want the button to be soaking in oil and vinegar. Yes Yo and give your that sounds disgusting The lukewarm soggy panini from law was usually what I get. Yeah, I I I change it up a lot when I'm getting a hoagie, but when it's raining outside What I do is I get the the ham and cheese panini with cheddar and pickles

so it's kind of like a grilled cheese, maybe a little garlic aioli on that and then I get a side of Tomato bisque and I hit it with it So good I'm sorry Marquez. I just I won't dive into it That's good. The brand, the tomato business kid. So good. I'm sorry, Marques. I just, I won't dive into it, but ever since you brought up that Roadster thing, it's like, the Tesla expanded universe has strayed so far from an affordable sports car.

They put out an AI girlfriend yesterday. It's like, where? Yeah. It's definitely not an affordable sports car. Well, wasn't the point originally though supposed to be like? For the roadster? Context. Yeah.

Yeah, well, yeah, context is for the performance that they promised is relatively affordable because they're matching a $2 million car with a $200,000 car. Right. But it's not out. No, and it's never gonna come out because they're not working on it

because they're too busy doing whatever it is they were put out yesterday. Yeah, they're working on other things. Someone said favorite app of 2025. So it had to come out or just be out? I think it had to have come out this year. I really like onion rings, but mozzarella sticks are climbing up the ranks for me.

Are you using anything more this year than you used before? That's a good question. I would say Pokemon Training Card Game Pocket, I'm still playing. I don't play games like almost ever, but Bellatro and Pokemon Training Card Game Pocket now are the first two games I've like ever had on my phone and I'm very addicted to both of them

and I don't like that. Coinbase has sent me notification every day for like the last five days because Bitcoin's hitting a new high every five days, so there's that I have this is speaking of not a financial device a teaser Somebody asked about the Tesla Robo taxi thing and I have the Tesla Robo taxi app here on my phone So there's a little why would you have that because yeah, you know, it's just just testing just testing it out Here's a new area that they're doing

Did they do that on purpose? Yes, of course they did everything but also Yeah, no, I don't have any like app of the year for me so far. I don't think actually No I don't think I use any apps that are new this year. I think you disk is like my most fun app that I Just for disc golf. I'm really digging the Brooklyn Public Library app. Oh, yeah What are you doing that? Yeah It has to mate like so you can browse the catalog which is really useful that's sick you can place holds on

Browse the catalog, which is really useful. That's sick. You can place holds on audio books, ebooks, or physical books, and then you can also read the ebooks in the app, in a built-in reader. And look, I'm not gonna be like, this is a phenomenal app, but I will say, for an app that is run by a city, it is so good, like never crashes. The bar is low, but that is pretty good.

Very responsive UI, everything works, easy sign in, It is so good, like never crashes. The bar is low but that is pretty good. Very responsive UI, everything works. Easy sign in, feels secure. I would assume it's my library card. So it's like, I shouldn't say that. Probably is. Hopefully it's your library card. Yeah, but now everyone is gonna try to hack

into my Brooklyn Public Library account. I don't think my public library has an app. So that's pretty cool. Really? I think you'd be surprised. Mark, do you have a library card library has an app, so that's pretty cool. Really? I think you'd be surprised. Mark, do you have a library card? I'll check, not anymore. I have one from my hometown, but I haven't, yeah.

It's been a while. Everyone take out your library cards, do it. I have the where the wild things are one. Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's my favorite thing about the Brooklyn Public Library app is my card is in it. I don't need to carry it around physically. You're not a card carrying member.

Did you know Costco does the same thing? Oh yeah, I have it on Costco, but I change phones too many times, so I got locked out. Yeah, I went to Costco the other day and I realized walking in that I forgot my card and they were like, you can just log in on the app. And I was like, duh, obviously. We're still at 5K viewers, by the way.

That's pretty, usually they like peek up and taper off But everyone's staying strong. I think we have like it's kind of a random midday on a Tuesday, you know Yeah, just hanging out. Should we do like have one app? Just it's not new but it's one that I found recently and has been like a lifesaver and it's just local send It's basically airdrop between like any device and it's been soup I'll send local send that's yeah Jalapeño poppers because it's like chili reno, but you can eat a lot of them so awesome. Yeah, it was amazing Yeah, that's why jalapeno poppers rule. They do rule

Except for when they like burn your mouth and it's like squirt all over your shirt. That's true That happens every time that sounds terrible. That's the worst I'm hungry. Uh, but do you want to do like two more questions? Yeah, yeah Yeah, okay. I probably should have had a question ready. I said that let's see. Let's see. Let's see Uh, so has anyone ever heard of yandex guys? It's like the google of central asia. Yes, not only have I But I took a ride in a yandex self-driving car at CES years ago. Check that one out.

Little throwback video for you. I remember that. Yeah. Someone asked what our favorite SpongeBob memes are. Oh, brother. That one's excellent. What? What's the one where he's like,

like camera blurred like this? Is that Mr. Krabs? The reason I love that is because one time I was doing a Fall guys stream and ellis was watching and I like knocked my webcam and it paused to like me being like that And ellis like screenshotted it and sent it to me as the meat Uh, there's so many good ones. So many good. Can I tell the story of when you were streaming? um Valorant, I think or and you didn't know my twitch account So many good ones. Can I tell the story of when you were streaming Valorant, I think, and you didn't know my Twitch account. And so I just started commenting, begging you to come visit a fan in Utah.

My favorite Spongebob meme is the sound, the stinky sound. So much so that when someone sends me a text I don't like, or like they bail on plans or something like that, I'll just send a YouTube link to like the, brrr. I think mine is, Mr. Krabs, I have an idea. Pretty good. So said Marquez, did you switch to your iPhone again? I've literally used two phones since the beginning of time. I have an iPhone in one pocket

and an Android phone in the other pocket. There are a cave thing about it. It's crazy how in the Big Bang happened the first atoms to be pulled together in a solid matter formed a Samsung and an iPhone. And they were in Marques' pocket. Would you have, wait, which, nevermind. Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, iPhone 16 Pro.

Got it, right. Good looking out though. Yeah. Someone was gonna ask. Did we just break and bark? Dude, if the hypothetical folding iPhone had a built in A-pen, brother. Apple Pen.

I would be so, is that what the S stands for? Oh my God. Wait, what? I just assumed it was the same as Galaxy S, like it was super. But the S Pen? Yeah. Samsung Pen? Is it Samsung Pen or Super Pen?

I think it's just Galaxy S Pen. But the S. Galaxy S. I'm asking Chad GPT. The S does not stand for Samsung in Galaxy S though. I know. The S stands for Weezy F Baby. Super. Chad GPT says theezy F Baby. Supa.

Chachi PT says the S doesn't have an official meaning. Well, that's literally wrong. But it's widely believed to stand for Samsung, as in Samsung and stylus. That's double wrong. It's wrong both times. It does stand for something and it stands for super. It does stand for super.

Well, Chachi PT just didn't have one in there. This is what I'm saying. They're wrong almost every time. And I think we don't realize it because we all make the mistake of saying, they're wrong almost every time. And I think we don't realize it because we all make the mistake of assuming that they're correct. But it's like, it was wrong when I asked it about what the state abbreviation for Iowa was.

It was wrong. Did we? Smash Bros. I'm on the Wikipedia for S Pen and I command F super and it's not there. We had a whole wave form episode about this. Remember? Cause the A stands for awesome.

Yeah. Yeah, but in Galaxy S that might stand for one thing, but in S Pen it doesn't appear to stand for anything. Oh, you're just looking for what S Pen stands for? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Chat, chat, what does it say?

Chat. Chat. But I, it's phone arena. Did you know that, do you know what the S and galaxy's S line stands for? The answer is super cheesy. It stands for super smart. I think you guys are talking about two different things though.

That's galaxy S. That's galaxy S. You're saying there's S Pen. No, so that was my original question. Is the S Pen super smart like in galaxy S or is it short for Samsung or nothing? I don't think anyone knows. No, Samsung knows.

Okay. Maybe. Samsung knows. We've talked to Samsung, I don't know about that. Wikipedia doesn't, Chachipetia doesn't. Someone said favorite movie, TV show. I just want to shout out Halt and Catch Fire because everyone that watches Waveform

would really love the show because it's about the 80s computer revolution and it's really good. It's a dramatization, it's so good. Sorry, hoppin' back in here because now I'm mad. I found the 2011 PR blast from Samsung that has the acronyms for all their letters. It's S, super smart, R, royal slash refined, W is for wonder, M is for for magical and Y is for young I

Think what they're saying though is that these are for the devices as pen might be something else Even though the phone itself the s might stand for that like the gals with their tab has an s pen And what does the s stand for that's my question. I don't think there's an answer stand for? That's my question. I don't think there's an answer. Which is it not the Galaxy S tab? There's no letter on the Galaxy tab? Samsung Galaxy Tab Ultra. Super smart. They do have a Galaxy Tab S. So the Galaxy Tab Ultra is the one with the S pen.

It's the Galaxy Tab WH-1000X. Because they're all really bad product names. Alright, do you want to do the last question, Marcos? Yeah, last question. We should pick a good one? We should be good. You guys all sit in silence and pick the best question possible keyboard switches That's not it. Ionic 6 and while we wait, what is your guys's best question? I Was gonna say the TV show I want to shout out while they pick out a question is cowboy bebop

I don't know why it's me so long to watch that. Oh my God, it's so good. Someone said the S stands for stylus. Might as well. At this point it might as well. Favorite phone color? No. I have a map like everything shirt on.

That stands for sexy. The S stands for shut up ass. That's actually really good. That's good Favorite country Coffee question. Oh people are just waiting coffee. We know a lot of I think I think we should finally address this someone asked something That we've been talking about not answering So for the longest time we recorded this show

on a device called a Rodecaster, which you can plug four microphones in. And there were five people in this room. And so Adam and I just shared the mic because we don't have that much to say. You know, then- Not anymore. Now we have so much to say.

Yeah, right. So then we upgraded to the task and model 12 which did have an extra input for another mic but we just thought this was so funny and so we're never gonna change it's just the way I'm sorry like five minutes ago like pretty hard no no that was the $3,000 don't worry not my five5 skull. But yeah, so it's just hilarious. I think it's part of the fun.

Adam and I get to have our faces kind of awkwardly close to each other for colleagues, but that's part of the fun of making a show. I think it's good. I think it's a good, I think it's a great place to end. It kind of reminds me of when I had the Cheerios in the background of MKBHD videos for years. People would ask, why are there Cheerios behind you?

Why are there Cheerios behind you? And the real answer is, I actually started making videos in my college dorm in 2013, 12 or 13, and behind me in the room, there was a microwave, and I was shooting on my Canon T2i, and the one over 60 shutter speed, just looked really weird with the display, it would like strobe behind me,

and anytime I made a video with a microwave behind me, which it would be in every video, people would comment like, yeah, look at the microwave, it's strobing. So I just wanted to put something in front of it to block it so people would stop talking about it. So I started putting a Cheerios box up there. And then I just kept putting a Cheerios box there.

And then eventually I moved to a new apartment and I kept putting a Cheerios box behind me and it just stayed behind me and there was no reason for it to be there and it could totally have moved, but I just kept putting it there because it just felt right. And that's the truth about a lot of things on YouTube and on this podcast with a single mic and with our setups

and with a lot of what we do, it just feels right. And that's just the way it is for now. Enjoy it. Hey, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening and tuning in and for dropping a bunch of comments that we could answer. This was really fun. We'll probably do this again sometime.

Maybe 350, maybe 400. Maybe we'll find a good reason to go live again. But thanks for dealing with us being five whole minutes late. Yeah, it was like 10 or it was a very stressful But if you guys make it episode 1000 you might get to see Alice and I test if you can kiss in vision Pro. Yeah Not 301 Yeah, the second we get the second we get a second Vision Pro from Apple, it's going down. Science.

Should we read out? Let's sign out. Read us out, and this is gonna be a very weird outro because I'm waiting for the lag before I hit it. Then we all have to wait. Yeah. Yeah. Because... Yeah. See you next time.