Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - We Skipped the Pixel Event

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

This week, it's all about the Google Pixel 11. First, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about the Made by Google event itself before getting into the new HiLight glow feature. Then it's all about the new Pixel 11 phones. They wrap it up talking about the new Pixel Watch 5 earbuds and the Google Pixel Tag. Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia. Enjoy! Links: 9to5Google - Google Assistant shutting down MKBHD - Pixel 11 Impressions video This episode brought to you by: Framer: https://www.framer.com/waveform Quince: https://www.quince.com/waveform Glaze: https://www.glaze.app/waveform Follow us on socials: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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People of the Internet, welcome back to another episode of the Waveform podcast. We're your host. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. I'm David. And this is a jump scare if you're not on the audio-only version, because we are definitely in a different place. We are in a very different place. We skipped the pixel event and we're in Spain. For good reason. For good reason. Maybe not the reason you expect. You'll find out very, oh,

we'll probably talk about it, but you'll find out very soon. We should just say, you posted it on your story. Yeah, yeah. We're in Spain because we wanted to go watch the total solar eclipse that came through here as of the day of recording yesterday. Not only did we watch it, We recorded a podcast episode right in front of it. And it turned out pretty incredible. I'm very excited for you guys to see it. It is why you will see that very soon in not the same location, but the same country anyway. So you're subscribed.

So yeah, definitely if you haven't gotten subscribed, this is a great time to get subscribed because that will be showing up in your subbox very soon. But we still got to talk about the Google stuff. We still do have thoughts on the tech event of the week. But first, did they even test this? I have one. Speaking of Google stuff. Speaking of Google stuff, this is extremely relevant.

I'm ready. Okay, so I've had this written down for a while, but this actually, timing-wise, works perfectly. So my, did they even test this is that my Android Auto has switched to Gemini, which at first I was like, fine, whatever. It's just a different voice. But lately, it has been not... Famously, just a different voice.

Nothing else is different about it. Yeah, different voice, different name. it's been messing up left and right for me. And I think it's partially because of that I'm speaking to it like the assistant. I'm not like Gemini. So when I first got it, I was like, I don't like this. I don't like change, but I gave it a shot. And it did some pretty impressive things.

Like I mostly use Android Auto for when I have an idea of something that I need to do in the car and I can add it to my task app. You guys all. I'm still a task app user. Google task. hard and probably the most I add to it is like in my car because I'm like I have to do this thing today I have to do this thing when I get home and the other day I realized like I need to start my snowblower once a month just to make sure it continues to run for winter and I said to Gemini hey can you set a reoccurring task for the last Saturday of every month to tell me to start my snowblower

done I was like whoa Gemini rules in your car in my car lately I've never done anything that complicated it from my car so lately It can't get anything right. I wrote down, I went back in the history because that's a fun thing with Gemini. And as soon as you can see your history, and I wrote down a couple of the things I asked it to do. So in the old speak, what you would do is you would say, hey, gee. Yeah, remind me. And I would say, what would you like me to remind you of?

And then you say the next thing. So I said, hey, remind me. I said, what would you like? I said, find ice cream cake for Claire. And then it said, I can't find anything right now. Erred out. It got confused. It got confused.

Then the next one. one I said, remind me, what would just be reminded of? I said, message Nathan about podcast outlines, said, I don't find, I don't see a Nathan in your contacts list. And then I did it. I was taking, okay. And I did another one. I said, set my discol roster.

This is something I do for a weekly fantasy league I'm in. And it just erred out. It didn't do anything. So my thought, you do know a Nathan. I do know anything. Okay. I just don't have a montext. But so what I think is happening is with the old speak, if,

the first word of the task is an actionable word. It's forgetting the context of the conversation that we're having and just trying to then do the action. Right. Have you tried it all as one man instead of two. I haven't, but I'm pretty sure the new thing should be able to do what the old thing should have done. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's the new one's supposed to be like, I mean, they're all supposed to be this, but they're supposed to be like natural language. Yes. You just talk to it like a person. So instead of the old speak, as you say. First, let me queue up the reminder thing and then let me give it the reminder. You got to talk to it like a grandma who doesn't know that that's the old speaking.

You just go, hey, send me a reminder to text Nathan and blah, blah, blah, blah, and then maybe it'll work better. So I've thought of that and I agree. But also, the other thing New Gem and I's supposed to do is understand context of conversations better. And when the conversation is you ask me what you want me to remind you of and I say the thing, if you were like, Andrew, can you, after work, I really need you to remind me something. I was like, cool, what do you need me to run me of? And you're like, go to ultimate practice. And then I said, where's the ultimate?

Yeah, where's the way. I said, like, how would you like to get that? Like, I completely forgot that you just asked me to remind you of it. And then I'm just like talking about ultimate. If that's not natural anymore. And especially when like the whole thing is like context, it's supposed to remember full conversations. And we're not even.

Yeah. Yeah, we're not even stopping the conversation in there. I'm answering it. That's totally valid. You know what this reminds me of, though? In the Google presentation, because we've seen this before with some demos, but the Rambler thing, where you'll be talking to it and it's supposed to do speech to text. And I thought about this.

There are several things that you can do that are purely natural language where you'd be like, hey, I just wanted to say thanks for coming. I mean, it was cool to have you there. and you start talking and then deleting things and then saying more things and it realizes you didn't want to say that and then takes it back and then adds a new thing because of the way you're talking to it

and that's really cool but I always wondered what if you wanted to what if you wanted it to actually say the delete thing part I had that problem already I think that's what's happening to you in like a different way where it's supposed to hear

set a reminder okay and then oh this guy just realized he doesn't want to set a reminder or he actually wants to message someone. Instead of it's like one big command. So it feels like that's what's happening, I guess. In a funny but impressive way, the one time I just like snapped, I think it was the like, what would you like to be reminded of? I said send Nathan podcast outlines.

It said, I don't have a Nathan in there. Would you like me to do or would you like me to text something else? And I said, no, I want you to set the reminder like I asked you in the first place. And then said, set a reminder. And then it did it. Which is hilarious, but apparently you just have to get angry. This is like imagine if you could no longer Google things with SEO speak and you had to only talk to things with natural language, which is like using Google when you know how to Google is way faster than talking to an LL. 100%.

Because you have to type out everything. And then wait for it. Yeah. And if you can just use keywords with like six keywords, it's so easy for me to find stuff. I just use the main big words and then it finds it automatically. But if you have to type out everything, it's like that's something. much less efficient. That's so funny to think about though that so we we learned Google comes we learn SEO speak yeah natural language comes with Gemini but when that takes over are all are we all going

to be like this would be so much faster if we could just speak to have SEO and then we redevelop SEO speak into LLO yeah SEO speak is just keywords right yeah and we if you use keywords you are dropping all the irrelevant stuff yeah but now we have to talk to it like in that all I would like to find and... Yeah, I wish you would also have... Now, I understand that for most people that never learned SEO speak, you know... Under certain age, people are like, I don't know, I'll just ask it and it'll tell me... Exactly.

Like, I get that and I totally understand that. And even with the Rambler stuff, because, oh my God, I've had older relatives, like, try to talk to these, like, home assistants and stuff. And they just, they're like, hey, gee, could you turn my lights on, maybe, I guess? like maybe tomorrow at three. And if that works, that's amazing, right? That's incredible. But honestly, like, to your point,

Mark, because about the Rambler thing, like, I've tested this on a pixel. And when I'm trying to text somebody, like this kind of more complex thing, it takes out, like, all of the flare of your sort of conversational tone. Yeah. Sometimes you want to use, like,

a very specific kind of, like, lingo. And it makes it a lot more, proper. Which you don't always want to do. Yeah, that was not an issue, but that was something I found, which is, and I've been thinking about this a lot, that like the humanity of, this is so randomly deep. The humanity is our imperfections, our inefficiency. Yeah.

The personality. They kept using the example for Rambler as, like, texting people. I actually don't think that's ever what I'd use it for, because it doesn't, it removes all of the me from the text. Yeah. I would use it for, like, a really, really long reminder that I want to set for myself where it removes ums and oz and it's very efficient but for texting which is what they kept using as a demo it's so like robotic yeah proper perfect and that's not what i want necessarily from

text totally totally i did use it to say what up my g and it did keep that it did okay did keep that so i was happy that's very yeah i do think like for texting the times when i would be using speech text is when I'm like on the run doing something where I'm like I'm not probably putting much personality into it anyways. It's just like you need information and I need to speak it to you as fast as possible. So then in that case I don't care. But I'm sure there are lots of people no matter how good Rambler gets where when you get that text message, you're like you can tell person typed this person speech that this like periods capitalization. Everything proper. You're just like, okay, they just yelled that into their phone. It's like you put too much effort into it.

Yeah, yeah. You need to put less effort because that's how I know you care. Yeah. Also, it's, everyone's always, oh, did you write this with an LLM? Did you write this with AI? If you use Rambler, is this now in the gray area of like, well, you did write this yourself, but you refined it. Kind of. You refined it.

You also kind of used, yeah. Yeah. They made a weird really big deal, and we'll get to the Google event in a bit. But they did make a weirdly big deal about the fact that you could add an emoji with your voice, which you could always do. I've done that a lot. I'm always like heart emoji or like, I think a lot of people didn't know you could do that before. I guess it's just reintroducing features. It's like the Apple thing.

And you can also, it's like, well, you could do that for years. Your iPhone can send text messages. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Real quick, to go in, the first story I have here relating to the did they even test this is all people who had Google Assizant got this email over the last week. That's starting September 4th, Google is starting the process of removing access to Google Assistant on your phone. tablet or paired devices.

Once the ability is removed, you won't be able to switch back to assistant. RIP. RIP. There are a couple of funny things about this email that I thought. One is the intro sentence says, Gemini, our next generation AI powered assistant is now the assistant experience on Android asterisk. Gemini is AI and can make mistakes, including about people. So great start to the email.

Yep. The paragraph after that saying, Assistant will be removed, also says, if your Android device meets the minimum, requirements and you're in a region where it's available and then just doesn't say what happens if you don't meet those parameters. So I'm not sure if assistant will stay presumably or they just yeah. It has to be that right? It's going to be for extremely old phones. I haven't used assistant in years because phones for the past eight years have all come out with this new,

maybe not eight years, but a long time, they all got an update to Gemini. So phones with assistant that didn't meet the system requirements for Gemini, I do wonder, do they just not have an assistant anymore? Do they shut down the... I don't think so. I think they'll just keep Google assistant temporarily. It's got to be so minimal at that point. Yeah. Is it like regulatory bodies? Is that the whole reason that they can't change over in some regions? Because it's sort of like how in the EU you can't use Siri AI yet. And I saw a tweet a couple days ago that was like, I entered the U.S. and I was in the U.S. for one microsecond and immediately I got the, you could now use Siri AI notification.

Oh, really? So my guess was language, actually. Because a lot of time when we see these AI things come up, it's not available in these regions yet. So they obviously, if they don't have the language supported in Gemini, can't send a forced upgrade to a region that uses that. I would imagine they'd keep Google assistant because removing a feature like that when people use it pretty consistently is kind of insane.

It is. I don't think they'd do that. But also has happened before. Yeah. It is Google. It is Google. We do have a notably large graveyard of Google products. That is true.

It's possible. There is a public website. And the paired devices that includes this wear OS headphones, earbuds compatible with Gemini, and vehicles running Android Auto. Oh, so here might be our question to the Android thing. Google, cars with Google built-in assistant will continue to be the main. Oh, that's a good spot where Assistant is a whole star or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So they're not upgrading those to Gemini? No. Or not forcing to Gemma. and I. Interesting. Which is, which means assistant

then, yeah, that means assistant can still be running. Yes. But it is strange that that's not changing. So fragmented.

Because those are so new you would think. Yeah. But maybe just hardware specs on the infotainment system. Teams not talking to each other. Yeah. Like we have cars

with Google built in. Okay. Well, we should talk about this event. Yeah. This is a, an evening event. Google did this thing

where the embargoes for the hands-on for all of our videos was at 10 in the morning Eastern time. And then the event announcing everything was at 6 p.m. that day. And so there was this eight hour gap where everyone already had seen all the stuff and we're still waiting for the Google event. Yeah. I thought that was a choice. That freaked me out because we're in Spain with the time difference.

I was looking at the calendar and I saw you respond to someone on Slack. Like they said Wednesday embargo. You said 4 p.m. because you're, or no. 10 a.m. 10 a.m. Talking about Eastern time. And I was like, that's not it. The event is later.

That's so far away and then had to confirm it. But this is, I mean, we've had, it used to be event ends embargo. Then it started being like, event starts embargo, which is funny because you get all the themes. Like, why is anyone going to watch this? Because all the reviews are out. Yeah. This now, not an hour, not two hours, eight hours before. Yeah.

Notably, event end. embargoes was always so nebulous because people technically if the public information is out there you're allowed to report on it and so i remember like the one plus six or the one plus six t and it was so awkward because they would announce the phones but the event wouldn't be over and a bunch of websites would put out their information like as soon as they said this is the one plus six t so i remember that flip being switched because i remember it would always be uh let's say the event was 10 a m and it would end at 11 a.m and the embargo was 11 a.m. and so they'd say here is the your hands on, you do the video, your embargo was 11 a.m.

So the event would end at like 10, 55, and everyone would be like, can we? And then at exactly 11 a.m., everyone would publish, as we were supposed to. And then people would like start to go a little earlier, or a little bit earlier, because the event had ended. So then I remember getting an email for a random, I don't remember which company, but it would say something like, the embargo is 11 a.m.

Or whenever the feature is announced on stage, whichever comes first. Yeah. The feature? Yeah. Or whenever the, yeah. They would have a whole list of the embargoes. Oh, yeah. And so then you would have to choose when to publish based on if your video was breaking

the embargo for 11 a.m. Or if the thing that is in your video was talked about on stage at 1048, then you could publish then. Yeah. That happened for a few years. Nobody's going to, like, call me out for this because I have a way to justify it to them, you know? Yeah. And then it became, like, people were publishing minutes before the event ended because, like, oh, my stream was faster or whatever. And it just, I don't know.

Personally, this eight-hour gap, this is, like, one of the first times we've seen something like this. I like it because... I mean, as a publisher, I'm totally cool. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Because, like, people just read all of our stuff, watch all our stuff. Yeah. And I think the fact that, like, Samsung, you know, puts it out, the embargoes.

The more goes the exact same time as the event. Probably hurts their numbers and hurts our numbers. So neither of us are happy. I like the fact that people are going to come consume our content and then eight hours go by. People can kind of digest what we had said and then watch the way that Google presents it. And I think that's interesting.

It's interesting. I've always liked it the other way around. It felt more correct where first you'd hear the marketing packaged version and then afterwards you'd hear the breakdown of what all that really means or what people believe in what that means. That's fair.

And so if I was like a casual or just a consumer of that information, I would see the marketing thing. And I decide in the moment, do I want to look at the marketing? Yeah. Or do I just wait until I trust these people and hear what they have to say? I think that's the way I always picture. Yeah, that's a good point. Now, I mean, that's the way it still happens that, like, Apple doesn't pre-brief. That's kind of the way it still goes there.

Like, you first see the event and then later throughout the day you see the reactions of the people. But yeah, for like the Samsung thing, what I've noticed is we'll publish our video at event start. Yeah. And then you'll watch the event and 200 to 500,000 people will watch it live. And then when it ends, I will see traffic to our video go up. Like the minute the Samsung event ends and people start leaving and going back to YouTube homepage, they'll see our videos. And then you'll see the traffic go up. So there's a group of people who are not too casual to be watching the Samsung event live.

Yeah. But they're not too into it to be watching our video first. Interesting. Yeah. I wonder if a lot of those people are the people who were used to the old embargo of like, we're still yearning for the days where an event surprises us. And I wonder if some of those people are still the ones like, in my day, we watch the event. Yeah.

And we watched the reviews. This was what a release day was to me. I need to see the event. If there's anything that's going to surprise me, now all you get is some weird spider man hanging up in the corner of a stage or a celebrity. But like, yeah. Yeah. I think David's totally right.

on this actually does feel in the new age, probably the best, because it doesn't affect views on either person. The reason it sucks for Google on this one, and we'll get to why, is you say, like, we're going to watch all the reviews and digest. Well, that means now the live stream for Google is a bunch of people with pitchforks and torches outside of the Google event because they're not happy with this release, banging on it, just ready to destroy the chat on YouTube. I was thinking about that because like the Apple events, for example, people don't know anything.

And so we as like reviewers and stuff, we see stuff and then we instantly have to touch it. And then we have to make editorial decisions in the moment about what we're going to talk about and like how we're going to feel about it. But we didn't have any time to look at them, digest the information, spend time with the devices. And so it's more of like a raw reaction. And so the hype around the product is actually lower because we have more time to think, more critically and think about, oh, is this actually better, blah, blah, blah. Instead of just touching, touching, touching, I don't know if I can't, I can't, like, give you an opinion on this yet, but here it is, you know.

Yeah, I have always found companies like Apple are obsessed with controlling the narrative around their products. So if you think of it as, like, the funnel of, like, the widest group when they present and they show their event, that is the largest swap of people to be getting the message. So they control that one. And then afterwards, there is a smaller group who will hear a different version. version of the message from people like us. Yeah.

With this, it was like upside down. It started with all of us who had time to figure this out, essentially controlling the narrative in a way that seems like Apple would never want. Yeah. And then eight hours later, the nicely packaged marketing narrative where everyone goes, oh, but that's just the marketing thing. Yeah. You know?

It is weird. And it's the reverse Uno card of what Apple would do. I was going to say pineapple upside down cake, but it's too early for that. Well, the event was... I was going to say, do you think part of it also... We'll talk about the celebrity who's there, Trevor Noah, this year, but with Jimmy Fallon, was that last year or two years? Last year.

Tenser. Tenser. Yeah, it became like such a meme because it was pretty awkward throughout the whole thing. But clearly Google's trying to bring celebrities in to try and get a little more average person watching. Yeah. My thought was the people who are going to meme up the celebrity are probably the people watching our videos throw that eight hours ahead and maybe a lot of that audience has gotten their share of what's going on

and doesn't really care about celebrity doesn't watch less of a chance that Twitter's filled with Jimmy Fallon yelling about random. The people are trying to reach don't watch our videos anyway, probably. Exactly. I think the audience is so different. Now the event doesn't have to be a little clouded

by the audience that's probably going to dunk on it. Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry, can you describe this hypothetical person you're talking about that doesn't care enough about the pixel to watch a Marquez Brownlee video, but does care enough to like sit down at 6 p.m. and watch a full Google event. Ellis, at this point, I felt like I'm taking crazy pills for so long, thinking that anyone other than our videos watches these events, but every year people swear to me that they do.

So I'm just accepting that maybe that person does exist. But I also am. Are they in the room with us right now? Yeah, like Google almost feels like they're treating it. I mean, it is Google, so they could just. be pushing it to people's home pages of YouTube. So like that actually, for Google, it might make sense. They're also probably doing it for social.

The clip economy. Trevor. Yeah, we need to think about the clip economy. We think our video is big. It was interesting. Like our video had almost a million and a half views by the time the event started. So we're like, oh, great. And then the event goes on and has like 50,000 live viewers.

So I'm like, okay, this is a smaller part of the funnel. But then Google is going to put this everywhere. I'm sure we'll check back in and it'll have 10 million views because they paid for it. it's everywhere. It was like live streaming on the homepage as you log on. Gemini will suggest it by tomorrow. Yeah. So that's their version of the wide version of the funnel and controlling the narrative,

blah, blah, blah. They're just going to send it there. They're also going to just be clipping this like crazy. They're going to be putting it in social feeds. They're going to be putting it on TikTok. They're going to be doing everything with it. I will say. I think they picked the right person this time.

For sure. 100%. So last time it was Jimmy Fallon. We've all talked about that episode. What else is there to be said? You know, it's a guy who hosts the. show and is well-known blah blah great Trevor no has also hosted a show but he's also notably like online yeah and watches tech videos yeah you can tell he was kind of into it and also

was much more charismatic and and sort of ad-libbed a little bit which was funny and threw some Googlers off but it was also like funny it was really funny really good so so that was our our host for the the event and they of course go through all the different uh you know Googlers who contributed to different parts of the stuff that we heard about. And it was pretty informative. It was also still marketing speak, but we got to get some questions answered on the spot, which is kind of cool. We got three phones.

Four. I guess four. Pixel 11, 11 Pro Max, and 11 ProFold. We also got Pro XL. And 11 Pro XL. Thank you. They're all the same. Sorry.

And then we got the Watch Five. We got Pixel, Google Tags. Yeah. Google Tag. Google Tag. Google Tag. It's Google Tag? Wait, it's Pixel Tag.

Sorry, pixel tag. It's a pixel tag. You're right, is pixel tag. Okay. Guys, we're running on like four hours of sleep. It is. Yeah, it's, yeah. We can talk about all of that stuff.

We should probably just start with the phone. Should we take a break and then come back and do the phones? Let's just do the one so we can talk about before the first ad break. Okay. Let's just talk about the big feature. This is the feature that to me exemplifies Google in 2026. This is only in the pros, right? This is just in the pros, but it's called highlight.

And what it is is it's a multicolor or RGB, whatever, LED on the back of the the phone that is just well it's two things it's the flash and it's also multi-color to be a notification light sort of for exactly two things yeah one for while you are actively speaking to jemini while your phone is faced down while your phone is only because people do that oh like on like on a surface so even if you're holding it when not when you're holding you might be yeah seeing the back only while it's got to be face down on the table i just want to we're going to talk about. Every new thing I learn about this feature makes me more mad. There hasn't been a part of this feature that I've been like cool. Yeah. Okay. So it's it's while you're talking to

Gemini, it'll light up and it'll glow in this little multicolor orb. Or two, while you're receiving a phone call from a contact that you have assigned a color to specifically. Favorites. Yeah. So you go into the contacts, you have a favorite, you assign them a color. There's five colors. That? Five. Just learned that this morning. five colors? Five colors. Can you name the five colors for me? I think it's like, what was funny is they actually said at the event, there's no red.

There is yellow, blue, purple, white, and like some other greenish. Five colors and white is one of them. Yeah. It's white when it's turned off. So it must not be RGB then, because it can't do red. I put RGB in here just assuming. If it's white, it's RGB. So how does it not have the ability to do it?

It probably has the ability to just put it in. Yeah. Why not? It's why not give it? Okay. Yeah, this is. This is great. You get you.

There's no logical. Yeah. It can do white, which is all the colors. It can do orange, okay. Do all of the. No, they just don't let it. They just don't let it. They just don't let us.

Why? Okay. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, notably, no text messages, no custom app assignments. Like, when you hear that this new phone in 2026 has a, a custom RGB notification light. I wouldn't blame you if your first thought was, oh, great.

When I get a spam call, it'll go red. When I get an email, it'll go green. When I get a Zell, it'll go blue. When I get a Venmo, it'll go purple. And you have all these ideas about things you'll do with different apps. None of those things are possible, as of right now. None of the, yeah. Just.

We don't have the technology. Yeah, the 2017 note 8, it was like yellow Snapchat, blue Twitter, green messages. The minimal phone does this. Oh, wait. Really? Does it? The minimal phone, too, is a notification. Oh, yeah, we were talking about that.

It's the thing I've wanted back most and partially because it's so simple. I'm surprised. So when I saw this, I was like, yo, it's not the glowing bar, but like, this is going to slap. This is such an opportunity for such a win. I remember the first, like, the Nexus. What was the Nexus one? Had a trackball light? Yeah.

I missed those. Dude, on my Nexus 6 with cyanogen mod, you could design this RGBLED, that wasn't even officially part of the phone. Yeah. Which is something they put in the phone that wasn't used at all. I forgot about that. Like in the earpiece, right? Yeah, in the earpiece.

And you could just use it for whatever you wanted in any color, any notification. And we don't have the technology 15 years later. We forgot how. We forgot how to do it. We don't have the machining anymore. Yeah, it's crazy. I, to me, this exemplifies Google right now because if they were cohesive and all talking to each other and we're thinking this through. this all seems very obvious to me

that they would have done all this. They would have given us the ability to set it to certain apps and messages and lots of other stuff. The fact that you can't. Trevor actually asked during the event if they would let you do other stuff like messages, and I think all they did was

confirm that they're working on it being for messages as well. For messages. Why do you have to work on it? It seems pretty straight. I also thought that in our vibe code economy, you could just tell Gemini to make this work and it would happen.

Yeah. It is funny. But apparently not. Especially because if you're setting it for the contact, then you have the color. All it needs to do is be that color for more or less time. One blink or multiple blinks, and now it is message versus. I feel like I can see their vision, right? Because they're messaging around this whole line of pixels has been,

let Google handle the complicated parts of your life, get back to your normal life. Like a lot of the things in this event have been like stop staring at your phone, use Gemini for things and then like you know let AI do things for you so I get the vision of like leave your phone face down on the table except for when you really need it except for the base phone except for what the base except for the base except for the base one unless you're poor um so but but really it's not it's just not built out at all it's just like they need to they need to actually deliver it reminds me so much of the the Fitbit air software you are where it's completely broken.

It's so bad that you don't even need a future promise of an update because we all have to assume it's going to get fixed. Like you almost have to assume it's broken. That, yeah. This is just so not fleshed out. The current and especially early Fitbit Air actual exercise UI when you were doing an exercise looked like my computer science 101, like first Hello World project

where you just like put text on the screen on a big white box. That's all it was. And all of it was misaligned and there was like multiple different dark backgrounds. Yeah, yeah, it was bad. Two updates on highlight. There's updates.

I'm on their website right now. I'm prepared to get more, Matt. Two really, okay. One is it's not on the pro fold either. What? It's just on the pro and Excel. Are you, I told us at the event. I read a different article this morning

that said it was on profile. Well, that's because they told me that at the event. Same. They told me it was on all the phones. I'm reading the website. It says on Pixel 11 Pro. and 11 Pro XL. So that's my update.

Two is the reason it's able to do white but not red is because it's not really RGB. It's using the flash, which is still in there for white. Oh. It's doing a weird color wheel for the rest of the colors. It doesn't include red. It's in the middle for white. It's fucking Simon says.

Blue, cyan, and orange to combine to make of Gemini colors. Oh. Red. So no red. But the. That has to be more expensive than an LED. Yeah, just put an RGB LED in there. Yeah.

I just want to comment corrects me if I'm wrong, but there's really only two ways to get a white LED. You can do three diodes and a red, a green, and a blue, and fire them all at the same time, and then you get white because they combine. Or you can do a blue LED that fires at a coating that has like a phosphorus that emits white, like when the photons get activated. They're not clear, but if this is a filter, I mean, this is, I'm just going by the end. I can't know, no, no, totally. But like, there's a 50% chance that the flash underneath there is an RGV. If they just fire the right LED already. Yeah.

I don't quite, I hope someone in the comments comments, I'm sure I'm missing something, but this still feels like they just went way around the block. Sure, there's no one clever enough at Google to think of a way to make this turn. Yeah. I think that they're probably thinking about the highlight thing as like a screen because it animates for Gemini. It kind of like waves around and moves. and it's supposed to be sort of like a little bit.

Yeah. So you're saying this is all they wanted to actually do. Was Gemini. Was the Gemini thing, but they threw us a bone. I gave us the most half-based murder. I think they knew that if it was only Gemini, people would be, like, very angry about that. Well, that backfired because I'm more angry now.

Yeah. Here's a question, though. When you get calls from anyone who is not part of your favorites, does the dot do nothing? I don't think it does anything. It doesn't do anything. You have to assign, and it has to be the favorites. Can I assign a color to,

to everyone else? You can go through your contacts one by one and give everyone a color. Oh my God. Wait, you can give multiple people the same color? It can't just be phone call yellow and then mom blue. No, it is. It's in the contact's specifically. So it's not the phone app or the

messages app. You go into contacts. You select that contact and you give that contact to one of the colors. And then when they call you and only call you, you will see that color. Yeah. Carl Pays laughing so hard. He's like, I nailed the phone's try. Excuse.

I could tell that Google felt very mixed about this feature in general with how much they wanted to promote it. Because at our hands-on event, they had constructed a giant pixel camera bar on the wall where you could hit a big red button. It would glow. Notably a red button. Red button. And it would make the giant pixel highlight kind of glow and do the Gemini thing. So they had a big stand that was like, look how cool this is. but then they didn't talk about it at the hands-on event at all.

Yeah. And so... It was deep into the event itself. Yeah. And it was very short as well. So, I don't know. It seems like the hardware team went kind of hard, and then the software team was like,

oh, we forgot about this. We were supposed to do that. Yeah, they didn't use Google tasks to actually realize that they're supposed to map it to anything. Anyway, we got a lot more features to talk about, and we don't have very long in this hotel, so we should probably take a break. Let's say a quick break.

Do we also have? Whoa. We sure do. Bienvenito to Preguntas de waveform. Pregunto number one. Estabas attento? Were you paying attention? Is this to the event last night?

Indeed. By the way, we watched this event at midnight. That's when it started for us. We got back at 1147. Most of the event at 2x speed while cleaning my room this morning. And you're going to crush those. I'm so scared. My head hurts.

Trevor Noah was surprised by Liverpool legend, Stephen Gerard. But before he came out, Trevor wondered if it was actually him or Gemini speaking in what regional British accent? I'm going to write. I don't have my white word. They're a regional British accent? Yes, this one is the Liverpool. Really? The UK is so small, man.

No, it's so complicated. The UK is so complicated. What I'm essentially asking is what is the Liverpool accent called? Yeah, I got it. This is one of those things where I know one name of an accent and the opportunity of how many people are going to get mad when it's wrong. I'd rather probably just not get the pose. I'm kidding.

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highlights. I'm throwing it back on the table. Base phone doesn't have it. Not enough room question mark. I don't know. Pro fold does have it. Pro and Pro XL also have it. Yes. Yeah. I guess we'll find out in the full review. Yeah, I guess we will. Anyway, let's talk about these phones. There's a bunch of new phones. There's a bunch of storylines going around about these phones. I think the main storyline is one of the silly ones, which is, oh, this isn't a big upgrade from the Pixel 10. Yeah, true. Phones are incremental nowadays. I agree. But the Pixel 11 has tensor 6. It has a brighter display. It has slightly faster wireless charging, and it's $100 more because memory is expensive. And that's basically a new, thinner camera bar and a new primary camera sensor.

Does it charge quicker? Yeah. Yeah, charges wire and wireless quicker. It's funny. There is a, there's one feature I saw that I didn't even get briefed about, but somebody, like, tweeted a screenshot, maybe I missed it during the event about, like, an extreme charging mode. I was trying to read about it really quick. Do you know what it is? It seems like it's a software thing that can just prioritize charging over, or like pause tasks that are going on on the phone to prioritize charging? It was just funny to me because it's probably like 30 watts, which is like not extreme

at all, but you're calling it the extreme charging mode, which is their fastest possible charging, which is, you know, it's better than not having a faster charging. Well, SETA can charge the Pro XL to like 75% in 30 minutes and the pro and the regular 11 to 55% in 30 minutes if you use the extreme charging. I'm coming from the 1 plus 15 where I would look at charger and it would go to 100% seconds. So, yeah.

Yeah, it's, I, you know, welcome small incremental increases. You know, tens or six we don't know that much about it, but we'll benchmark it. We'll see if it's dramatically better at anything. I'm sure it'll be slightly faster with CPU. better with AI performance, more memory bandwidth, the classic stuff we look to for Google Tensor, not necessarily an using GPU or performance otherwise. Yeah, I have a hot take about Tensor. Can I talk about Tensor?

Hot take. Yeah, please. Okay. I think that people think about SOCs and CPUs differently than Google thinks about SOSCs and CPUs. I agree. And I think that people always look at Tensor and they compare it to like a Snapdragon chip and you can't compare the chips very much. I know... I mean, you can in certain ways. That's what I'd say if I was losing. You can in certain ways because like obviously the gaming performance, the FPS, whatever, that's all whatever.

But Google's been hyper-optimizing for TPUs for like a while, like ever since Tensor one. That's part of the reason they made Tensor in the first place was because they were like, oh, we need to do AI performance, AI performance. Notably in Tensor 6, it's 2X the memory band with for Gemini. So they're just like hyper-fixated. on this world where your phone is like automating things for you, automating tasks, doing things, you know, natural language processing, that kind of stuff.

Rambler, local model. Yeah, Gemini Nano, that kind of stuff. And I know that Qualcomm also optimizes for this stuff, but it's not the 100% flagpost thing that Google is thinking about for. So when you look at TensorFlow 6, it's like 2x the memory bandwidth for LLMs and stuff like that, you know, like 2X the TPUs. Big deal for them. There's a new ISP in there that allows them to do new image signal processing stuff

that enables the things like the 30X zoom in the regular pixel 11 and the 120x zoom and the 11 pros. So I don't know. I think Google just thinks about when we make these things new every year, how can it enable more AI stuff, whereas every other company is just like faster? I agree. More efficient. I wonder if that approach is yielding.

better AI performance in a noticeable way. The same way Qualcomm's approach is yielding faster graphics than tensor. Noticable is a great way to put it because I think that Google is sort of optimizing for the future and thinking about we don't want to hit a cap. We don't want your phone that is having seven years of updates to one day not be able to meet the AI standards that we're shipping in software. Yeah. And Qualcomm's like, I don't want you to.

ever drop a frame. Yeah. Mobile. Yeah. Like Genshin Impact at 400 FPS. My counter to that would be that Qualcomm is doing what people want, though, right now. I feel like everyone wants AI features. I'm not saying that the Google approach is correct, but I think that what Google wants

out of its devices for the future, that's what they're optimizing for. I also think I think you're right in the sense that people who watch our stuff want. I think 95% of people buying a phone couldn't tell the difference between any of these processors. Correct. And it will just run exactly how they think. 95% of people buying the pixel phone are not even going to use most of the AI features. A couple years ago, I think you could tell the difference between a tensor chip and a Snapdragon chip in performance. Yeah.

I bet most people could. You're right. It's most of us. It's us eyeballing it. But the fact that I could eyeball it means there's some amount of people to tell. Yeah. And then you play a game and you'd be like, oh, it's heating up a lot more. It's actually a way worse performance.

Yeah. So that's, it was interesting. Now I just wonder how noticeable. Like, are we going to hit a cap with Qualcomm chips where they're like, oh, my God. Yeah. Look how far AI came. Yeah. We're focusing on frame rates.

Like, we'll see. Yeah. But I did get an email last night from MediaTech's PR agency. Hilarious. That said, by the way, media tech cannot confirm this. But here's a bunch of articles that infer that media tech. is now the modem in tensor. Which was really weird.

It was like MediaTech is saying that they can't say but that they are. Well, I would like to say that. I can't announce this, but I personally handcrafted every modem. I'm inferring this, of course. So there's, the efficiency thing is interesting because people always chat on tensor

before having a terrible, like, modem efficiency performance because the Samsung modem in tensor was terrible. And so now we have a media. MediaTech one. Allegedly. Potentially. Media tech is telling me that they can't tell me that they are the ones making it. It's a guy with a media, hello, I'm Media Tech, handing you an anonymous letter.

Yeah, literally. Wink, wink. Super weird. It's like when there's a rumor about you, but it's a good rumor. Yeah. Telling all your friends. Anyway, they do say that the Tensor G6 chip is quite a bit more efficient, and maybe that's why.

But, yeah, maybe people won't be as upset anymore. I don't know. I do think certain regions of the world, like China, where everyone plays a lot more mobile games, it'll probably matter more. But they should be buying the phones they can charge at 400 watts. Yeah. There will be phones for them. This is not phones for them. Yeah.

Maybe that's why the batteries didn't get bigger on any of these phones. Yeah, they got actually smaller on the pros by a little bit. Yeah, bigger cameras, smaller batteries. But anyway, on the base pixel, new colors are honestly the most noticeable thing about them to most people. The fuchsia color is so unbelievably saturated. All of my footage of it, it looks like I'm peeking the red channels. It's so bright. It reminds me of Rabbit R1 where you're like, impossible to color.

Your eyes. There's something wrong with this. Yeah. And it looks like that in real life. It's really, I think it's cool. It's cool. It's great. So we'll test the cameras.

We'll see if they're actually better. At least the primary camera is different. I didn't get to see it, but I think the thinner camera bar looks sweet. It is a thinner camera bar. Agreed. Yeah. I have a hot take. Yeah, we were fighting about it.

We were fighting about this. So now Google offers three levels of camera bar. bars and depending on how much money you're willing to spend, you get a thicker camera bar, which is interesting. That's so backwards. But Apple, Apple kind of did this with the iPhone. Their phones, too. Triple camera is the big boy.

Yeah, the bigger the bump. The bigger the bump, the more. I think that's how most people explain the difference between the pros and non-pro. Pretty much. Oh, this is the one with three cameras. Yeah. Yeah. I get that.

I just feel like if I'm paying more money, it should feel like the more premium device, which is the smaller camera. I kind of disagree with that. Because the pixel, the pixel 9A is flush, and to me that feels like the cheapest phone costs. Well, that's because the phone itself is super cheap. If you put that on a metal, glass, beautiful hardware. I don't really think so,

because then it's just a rectangle. Yeah, I think people associate the bigger camera bump with the more capable camera. Here's the other thing. The pros have the shiny rails, and there's that rail around the camera bump as well, so you get that premium shiny around. around the camera bump and it looks more premium.

No, no, I get visually why that is the case and it being more cameras and everything. I agree with you. I feel like if I'm picking something up and I'm holding it, like the iPhone air. When you pick up an iPhone air, it's so thin. It's like, wow. Like this is a premium device. It's like it's. Yeah, it also has titanium.

It's like super, super thinness. That also has a big camera bar, by the way. Well, yeah, but it's an everything bar. The whole phone has a phone bar. Yeah. The whole phone is in the camera. It's more so like the bump is not like it. I never got over it.

Like I know we've had it for so long, but I'm still like this is annoying that we're going to have to get over it. I know. There's something there. I see both sides of this where I can understand smaller camera bar means more engineering to shrink this thing. Yeah. Therefore better.

But then I also see like bigger camera bar means better camera. Yeah. Better camera. So yeah, I see. I associate just purely flush phones that are just. rectangles with being cheap phones. I don't know. With the worst cameras.

Yeah. But it's not a rectangle. It's like a squircle thing. Like it's... I will say, I like this thought of, uh, they're physically building the price ladder. Yeah. Flush, step up pixel. Yeah.

Step up pixel 11 pro. Then I so badly want Excel to be a little bigger. And then fold to just be like a quarter inch off the back of the camera. Oh, yeah. That'd be incredible. New inch was dropped. Yeah. I mean, there's a price ladder.

There is a reason that they associate it with a better camera is because if you have a bigger sensor, you have to have more Z depth. So they have to make it bigger. But, yeah, it is funny. It is funny. 40% thinner, though, on the regular 11. When you hold it, feel it, it's interesting. It's kind of, it's that in between. The bar.

The camera bar. The camera bar. Just the camera bar. Just the camera bar. So the protrusion itself. That's a protrusion number. The premium protrusion. Yeah, the premium protrusion.

You're paying for less Z depth. The base did the thing I asked them. Last year, I was like, Google, you messed up. Oh, you have to do 256 base and praise Google. They did it for $100 extra dollars. They didn't do it at all. They didn't really do it. Worst barrier of entry.

Yeah. Come on. So to be clear, last year, the 10 started at 128 gigs, which felt a little bit late to do that. And it was $7.99. This year, the phone starts at 256 gigs. So we started to clap. And then they said, by the way, it also starts now at the price of last year's $256, $900. Yeah.

And then we stopped clapping. So, yeah, memory is expensive. This is probably going to be a trend. This is not the only phone that's going to happen to. But that was one of the headlines about this phone. Yeah. I'm very interesting. Sorry.

No, it's fine. This is happening to every phone in the market. Like, we've seen this across the board. And that is what I wanted to say is the reason last year 128 base at $7.99 felt so bad is because the iPhone base was $256 at $7.99. Everyone. And when Apple is the better deal than you rough. So Google almost needs the base new iPhone to be $100 increase and same base store.

What is crazy. What's so crazy to me. And like I know that they have to make their margins and whatever. But a lot of these companies, especially Google and Apple, some of the richest companies in the world, if they really want to be competitive, like especially Google, if they want to grow market share, it's a pretty big win for them. And I know that they might have to sell these at a slight loss, or maybe they're not even selling them at a loss, but they're just making a little less money. And I know that's not great, but if they can sell way more phones because the PR of the phone being like, oh, it's still, it's super affordable. It might be better for them in the long run.

I think everyone watching this intuitively agrees, but when you said make a little less money, all the shareholders went, huh, what? And then it didn't. But maybe they'll make more money because more people will buy the phones. Yeah, short-term gains. would be nice in like the things we care about, but they got to make the number go up every time. It's just like the Nexus 7, like the Nexus 7 tablet. They literally lost $50 on every single tablet they sold so that they could get Google accounts.

Even a couple years ago, though, like base pixels were great deals. They were like incredible deals compared when the pro started being like $2 or $300 more. 300 bucks more. And I'm interested if now in, you know, the market's going to have to catch up, But we did start seeing, I mean, a pixel market share increase is like a couple percent, but that's like doubling percentage wise in U.S. So like we did see it go up a little bit. And now I wonder if being the same price as everything else,

we're going to now in two to three years see it start to not be as good. We'll see. It's true. We'll see what the rest of the year happens to do with phones. But yeah, I never thought I would see a $900 starting pixel. Yeah, that's a lot. That is pretty high. That's a lot.

So we got the pros as well. Yes. Slightly less muted or less exciting colors. I will mention, we mentioned the rails of the phone are glossy, except for the new Matt Black one. So they are listening. Somebody somewhere I Google did a little extra work. This definitely is damn good.

The Mac Black phone has Matt Black rails. 100%. We've complained about this every year. We've complained about this for years. They were so hoping the title of the hands-on impression was going to be like, Matt Black everything, A-B-B-N. Yeah, so the pro XL, the pro and the pro XL came out, same size as 6.3, 6.8. Again, brighter displays, I think we may be able to say.

Yeah, 3,600 nits is the highest we've seen for peak brightness. Yeah. Legitimately extremely bright in person and on camera. I was turning them up and actually I was mostly turning them down. Yeah. Because they were really bright. Well, and what's crazy is like you're not even hitting peak brightness when you turn the brightness all the way up. It only does peak brightness when the sun is shining on it and it knows it needs to be brighter.

What if there's any clips? Then it'll get darker. Indoorse it was probably not hitting the 36. No, probably 24 or something. But yeah, awesomely bright displays, which is great. Same resolutions. I think we could have a new primary camera and a new telephoto, I believe. Yeah.

Yeah, so the primary camera in the pros is the same size as last year. They told me that the main reason they swapped it out is because it uses less power than the one last year. And if it uses less power, they can fit more. They said, no, it can fit more AI features in it. Well, sort of. Yeah, the camera head, I talked to him about the camera stuff and he said, some of my favorite pixel computational photography features ever you can fit in 100 milliwats, which is the amount of power that they saved on the primary camera.

I see, I see. So I think that's the way that they think about these things. But the telephoto camera is bigger and gets 30% more light intake. That's nice. So that's nice. It's good. So we'll be testing the zoom on these new cameras. 10th or G6 as well

Less RAM On the base On the base Pixel 11 Pro Last year was 16 gigs of RAM This year it's down to 12 Yeah But if you upgrade from 256 to 512

Or a terabyte of storage You're back up to 16 gigs of RAM again Yeah So that's notably less RAM on the base pro Which by the way is more expensive 100 bucks more expensive again So they start at $1,100 And the Pro XL starts at $1,300

So crazy What's the jump from 256 to 512? In price? It's 200 bucks. It's 200 bucks. I was going to say that'd be really like if it was only 100 bucks, you would get them for extra gigs of RAM and the double of storage. But it's wild that they're still.

Hold on. But like dropping, this is the most ram-aghaned thing I've ever seen, which is increased price by $100, give less RAM than last year. While you guys look this up, I just want to put a little bit of context on something David said earlier. Google does not report what percentage of their revenue actually comes from Pixel specifically, but they do report a category of their revenue called subscriptions, platforms, and devices. Yeah, they loop it all in. Yeah.

And the numbers I'm seeing for the past few quarters seem to hover between 9% and 15% of all revenue. The subscriptions is a big bucket. I don't know what platforms means. Platforms and devices, it's like Android. It's like, yeah. I guess pixel is somewhere between zero and nine percent of Google. This is what companies do when it's either something they want to hide or it's too small to matter or both. So it sounds like they can shave a little bit of a price.

Yeah. Like sometimes we'll want to know how much money did Apple make off of this random small thing? like there's how much how many keyboards did they sell and you can never find this information because it's always just going to be looped in with max or whatever it's the best selling keyboard of all time markets they'll they'll say that on stage and they'll put a little asterisk and the fine print is like trust us we know yeah all right well I guess we'll just have to believe that um yeah so that's you know that's the story with the pros I'm still going to be trying it out still testing it still doing the thing where I believe this is going to be the phone that I use but there's so much software

you don't look happy about it it's a map flag pixel I have We do have to talk about all the software stuff, though. Yeah, there's plenty of software. But real quick, the new fold, just to get that out, the new specs. So there's a couple of interesting new things with the fold. It is a tiny bit thinner. I think it's one millimeter thinner. Did you see why?

Because of the new hinge? Because one side is thinner than the other side. Oh, that's also true. Already? Yeah. I saw that on video. It says almost a millimeter thinner. They said nearly a millimeter.

Nearly a millimeter. Big deal. it still will have, I think, the same-ish-sized battery, but some new camera. And then the back material is now this glass fiber composite, which they made a strangely big deal about to me. They were telling me, oh, yeah, it's unbreakable. You can't break it.

It's impossible. This is never going to shatter. I was like, why are you telling, this is a very confident way of telling you this material. Zach would like the word. Yeah, and we're going to find out. So we'll see. I like that it's still IP68.

Like they have gone hard with the durability factor. Samsung's are still IP 40 something, I think IP 48. You can get them wet, but you can't. They're not IP 68. Okay. So full IP 68 still and harder to crack and Victus on the front. It's a supposedly very durable full. Yeah.

I'm so sorry. Is glass fiber composite different than just like fiberglass? I guess they're not going to tell us. Yeah, glass fiber. I mean, if you ask, because this is, I don't know if it's, Is it is gorilla glass or not? This is, like, gorilla glass is already. Yeah, it's composite.

So, which is just grill glass. The back material is some other composite. I put a milk cream composite of my coffee every morning. You don't hear me fry. All composite means is it's mixed with something. Yeah. Well, what did it? You guys have to feel it.

Did it feel like glass or did it feel different? Yeah. I wonder if that's it. If fiberglass doesn't feel like glass, I wonder if it was attempting to replicate. Ceramic in there. Who knows? They said the durability was like 3x that.

That was front screen? The front screen. No, the front screen is. 2x scratch resistant. But I also saw someone say the front display was claimed to be 3x more durable. On the back, they just said, nearly impossible to crack. Something about it would have to, like, fold around the phone in order for it to actually break. That's, yeah.

I'm impressed by that claim. I need to feel the phone again and figure out. You have to be super confident to make that claim or just lying. Yeah. They also made the ultra thin glass thicker, which is really funny. They told me in the briefing We made the ultra-thin glass thicker to make it more durable.

Who knows funny? This is, I think we, would you all agree this is the most durable fold? I don't know. I mean, that's what they say. It's supposed, it's like it is. Because the only field that's ever exploded in Zach's hands during a Jerry G-Garthing test

is a pixel pro fold. I don't think it does anything. I think everyone can understand what Zach did was like, was like not something that's going to happen in extreme. Like it had nothing to do because there was a pixel. The video did blow up and sometimes that affects the way they market the next year's phone. And so maybe they'd change the back material so that the last wouldn't like shatter.

Was it last year? Maybe it was two years ago. Yeah, I'm going to need to wait for the Zach video to know if this is the most durable fold ever. Yeah. Yeah, well. I could do it for you too in New Jersey. I don't think Google's as worried about Zach's incident as like Samsung's worried about like Note 7 explosion. That was clearly Samsung's fault, whereas Zach's was like such a specific thing that happened

that will never happen to a phone. Yeah, it was a lot of chance. This was last year's 10 Proval. It was last year. Some Samsung executives sitting there just like, God, they're still talking about it. Yeah. Forever. But yeah, in general.

1899 for that one. Expensive. Yeah. Obviously still. But all your same stuff, 16 gigs of RAM, TensorFlow G6, slightly larger interior display, slightly thinner bezels, slightly brighter screens, all the pixel. stuff. Yeah. It's all still here. So looking forward to test. Two new made you look animations. Yay. Oh, really? Yeah. Nice. If you don't remember, a major look is on the, on the screen, when you have the phone open, the front screen will have like little animation guys that are like, oh, so if you have kids, they'll like stare at it and smile.

I did watch it work for, really? I saw in real life. I went to the aquarium with my friend and his daughter. And we sat her and Lane. this little turtle statue and getting both to look at the same time and he just walks up and goes and then he told me that he hates the camera so much most of the time he does it he uses that why his wife takes the picture with their iPhone oh oh god google was about to clip this out of the podcast like yes yeah oh no but it did work it did work very well but Trevor said that the pixel is the best low-light photography in the industry that's rough yeah I'm sure those animations will never come to older pixel folds. Yeah.

They forgot how. You need the RAM. Yeah, you need the tensor for sure. Yeah. All right. Well, I want to talk about all the camera stuff and the software, but I think we need to take one more break. We also got to talk about the Pixel Watch and the Pixel Tag, which is the AirDrop competitor. I can do that pretty quick.

You want to take it about the pixel tag now? Should we do it real quick? Let's do it. Okay, you guys have heard of air tags, right? You know, like the, what's the little, what are they based on? air tags oh find mine circles no but they're based on tiles yeah so you've heard tiles you've heard of air tags well now google makes one same price same concept yeah same thing it's a little longer though you can find it with jemini yeah it has a google g on it yeah it's uh very small

what is it's wider jemini mean it just meaning you can be like hey jemini find my luggage tag and then if you named luggage tag it'll be like boob it's in nova scotia somebody stole it oh that's gonna be so because people use these for like kids amusement park so it's going to be so funny like Gemini where's Lane you know the smudge tool in Photoshop where you can it's like the finger thing and you you smush the thing to the it's like if you took an air tag and used that tool on it you smushed it in a direction does it yeah because it's elongated like then there's an area where the battery can go in on the back and that's this a circle and that's basically the size and shape of an air tag and then for some reason they just elongated it by like

almost twice the length it's thinner it's thinner than an air tag but it's long It kind of looks like the Fitbit air thing. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little wider than a fitter. Yeah. And so yeah, it's $30. Can you replace the battery? I was just going to have. Replacement.

Yeah, it's the same as an air tag. Cool. This is cool. I'm probably going to cast off the back. You just, well, what do you, how? What do you put it in? It's a coin battery. A watch battery.

I don't own any air tag. Literally, the air tag is like a coin battery with a little casing on it. That's literally all it is. Swag. It's pretty awesome. Four pack for $100 bucks. I'm weirdly the most excited about it. Pixel tag.

out of everything here. Yeah. Well, the Moto tag has already existed. The Moto tag is good too. Yeah. So then there's the one. But does it have highlight? No.

Then there's the watch, the Watch 5. The Watch 5 did get some interesting substantial improvements. Much more accurate GPS. They actually named dropped the Apple Watch Ultra and Garmin Phoenix on stage.

This is more accurate GPS than both of those. Which was kind of crazy that they did that. Usually you don't name drop like that. We'll find out. They name dropped models. So it said, It is more expensive, but it is more accurate. It has more tracking, generally more data collection, but obviously for more accuracy for all the health tracking stuff.

They said 15% better sleep tracking, or more accurate sleep tracking, which is a really, really hard metric to actually contextualize. And that also makes me think, damn, how bad was the sleep tracking before? And I guess like what part of sleep tracking? Like falling asleep waking up, REM deep, blah, blah, blah, yeah. The falling asleep and waking up parts. Whenever I read that, I just kind of read, they're sampling 15% more frequently. Maybe.

That's kind of what I assume is happening. I don't know how else you make the claim of 15% more accurate. It might just be like our algorithms to create this score is better in some way. I don't know. Maybe. It's mostly saying nothing. Yeah. I mean, design-wise, it looks the same.

It has a slightly higher-clocked Snapdragon W-5 Gen 2 chip. inside. Better memory bandwidth, more on-device Gemini capabilities, which I know that you wanted in your watch. Insulin resistance detection is their big new headline feature this year. Insulin resistance trends specifically. And what was the other trend? There was another trend. There's a blood pressure. Blood pressure. Oxygen levels. Well, so there's a like breathing emergencies. Breathing emergencies was one of the other things for like choking toxic inhalations or drug toxicity accidents. If they drop, if your oxygen drops, it can call emergency. services. Yeah. By the way, a friend of mine's dad got in a bike crash recently and he got

knocked out in the bike crash. He had a pixel watch on and it did call 911. Oh. And it actually did help him. That's probably so crash detection? Yeah, crash detection. Yeah. Okay. So this stuff does work. Yeah. You know, that's why they use it in the ad every single year for the Apple Watch. They're about to ask you what is when the bear comes in your house. Yeah. The bear's in your house and your watch can call 911. Um, yeah, it was, uh, three gigs of RAM from two gigs. level storage to 64. Oh, I was thinking about more ramming the watch, huh? For Gemini.

I also... How much is it? Did we say? 399. US. Oh, my God. Well, to give them credit, and I hope I'm right about this, just to leave it. If I'm wrong, and someone will tell me...

I think this is the first increase on Pixel Watch since the start. Of price increase. Oh, price increase. So... I think so, yeah. Fine. Five generations in and you raise it, 50 bucks, I think. Yeah.

Okay. I don't think that's as bad compared to all the other things. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, $3.99 is in line. Does it have highlight? It does not have highlight. It does also have blood pressure trend.

No, it just tells you who's calling to it. It's a whole screen. But yeah, that's essentially it. Yeah, a better fitness tool. Oh, we also got a new color of PixelBud, and they're pushing an update to it. PixelBud Pro 2, which are really old now. And I don't know why they haven't really

at Gen 3, I guess, because they just think that it's fine and they can make new software updates, which is what they're doing. They're pushing a big software update. It's supposed to have better hands. It has sleep detection now so that when you fall asleep and music listening, it'll like pause and stuff like that. Has something to do with, like, matching up with your watch to do something as well. I thought the watch is what detects if you're asleep.

Maybe that was it. I think that was it. Oh, and then pauses your music. The buds had something. Were you paying attention? It was 1 a.m. So I don't know. But yeah, I don't know.

You don't need to buy new pixel buds, but they did have the new olive color. So it's the same color as the pixel pro green. Are any of us fall asleep with earbuds in people? Sometimes. Really? I stay in? I live in the cellar, notably on the busiest street in my neighborhood. And sometimes there's construction that happens in the middle of the night.

And it's really loud. I also have my AC running right above my face. and that can get annoying sometimes. So sometimes I do wear noise-canceling earbuds to fall asleep. I also use them on the plane to fall asleep. Same. Yeah, the plane is the big one for you. They do not stay in.

Really? And then I lose them and then I find them. Are you a side sleeper? I sleep every direction. I am. Sometimes I go backwards. I can't imagine your earbuds. I would lose those so fast.

No, I'm a side sleeper. I sleep in them. Not like every night, but if I'm somewhere loud, I'll use them as ear plugs and they stay in all night. Wow, you're lucky. I'm a big white noise wall. sleeping person. I slept. So I lived in Hoboken for five years and my apartment there had right outside there was a bus stop. There was a hospital. So always got ambulances, blah, blah. So I always

just put a fan right in the window and just turned it all the way up. So I always fall asleep to that noise. Now in a hotel like this, it's too quiet. I like play white noise machine or something. Wow. I just so much better. Actually, no one cares, but I hate white noises. Because we have to play it for when Lane was a baby sleeping in our room and now Owen and I can't wait till the white noise. You're more of a pink noise guy? Dead silence. Brown noise.

Brown noise? Dead silence is crazy. I love dead silence. Better than live silence. Actually, you know it's funny? This is so off topic. Okay, I had a, this is so stupid. I had a Spotify, I just looked up like rain sounds.

There's like a 50 track like rain sounds thing that I was playing. Yeah. So like last night, we're super jet-liked. I started the rain sounds thing. And then I went to sleep. And then I woke up and the rain sounds had stopped playing. And I was like, that's weird. It stopped playing.

So I went over to turn it on. And right before I turned it on, the shower just started like making noise of like random water coming out of it. Yeah. And I was like, my shirt of that too. The hell is going. I was about to play water sounds. But then water. I was freaked out for like five minutes.

I was like, who is in this room right now? Who turned off my water and made water? So none of you guys watched YouTube ever to fall asleep. I've never. I do. I always turn off. I use the sleep timer. The autoplay algorithm when you're sleeping?

It's great. It's completely different. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, they will show you things that you did not even know. There's a really good reply all episode where spoiler alert, this person was playing like white noise, but it happened to be this one like white noise thing they got, had like footsteps and then like a person like mumbling so the the person was living in the like

basement of a house and thought someone had broken in in the middle of the night and like freaked out yeah yeah that would freak me out one more slight tangent uh while we're here my friend is a musician and makes decent money in his band with his band it's a full-time job dude shut out about street light manifesto that's not they do not make decent money i'm sorry i'm sorry he probably makes more money than they do. Anyway, and he recently, a few months ago, started making, like,

ambient sleep music to go to sleep to, and he's put out, like, five ambient sleep albums. It's probably a good hack. He said he makes, like, 30 to 50,000 a month. It's like, with ambient sleep music,

but he's like, I know for a fact that Spotify in the next, like, year is just going to start AI generating all this music. Because why would they give that money way to other people when they could have it for themselves?

And it is the, It is the easiest, like, money hack ever. Anyway, yeah. His immediate sleep music is good. I actually use it. So, he doesn't need a plug. He's making plenty of money on it. Well, I'm not plug in.

I didn't even say. Listen to wave for him when you're sleeping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do that, do that. Yeah, which. Okay, one more slide. I had a friend tell me that the YouTube algorithm, he falls asleep to YouTube every night.

And every single night he wakes up, and it's playing our Halloween episode from last year. Really? And it's always the Halloween episode, and he always wakes up and finishes it. And he said it's every night. You can probably recite it as he's gone. It's just crazy. I know.

I know. That's amazing. Anyway. The one where I'm a minion? It was the year before this last year. Oh, the hamburger. Yeah. When I was a large language model.

You were... I might have been dressed. Oh, no, no, no. I don't think you were there, and we made you a zombie in the thumbnail, and people called it ClickBee. Because it was a joke that you were sick, I think. Right. People were really mad you weren't in the universe.

Damn. That's really funny. All right. Well, we really have to take a break. And then we got to talk about some new software stuff because I really want to ramble about camera stuff, which means it's time for tensor. I mean, trivia.

There you. Notable delay. Tenser trivia. Trivia, dude. So we spoke about highlight earlier. Marquez, stopped looking at my tablet. We still got the highlight feature, which is the new Google way of letting you see that you got notifications on your pixel phone.

No, not notification. Notification. Yeah, you're right. Notification. Notification. Yeah. But HTC already solved this years ago with a case that protected the screen. Oh, yeah.

Do you remember what this feature was called? What was called? What was it called? I made a whole video about this case. Yes, you did. Oh, no. And I was in Barcelona when I made that video. Really?

Yeah. Which is also in Spain. Wow. Very top of it. I wish I remember the name. I have an idea. I could describe it in such detail. It was cool.

Dots. It was cool. That's a great word. I'm glad you said that. No. In the name for sure. That's for sure in the name. Oh.

Okay. I was going to just mad I gave you a hint, but I didn't know it. So I may have inadvertently given myself a hand. It's like a port. Was that like a Halloween candy joke? Because Marcus does. I love Dots. Well, David's friend knows.

This will make much more sense when we hear the answer. Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll either learn something new or remember something incredible at the end. We'll be right. Like the HTCC? Incredible. Two.

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things that we think are worth talking about. Yes. Yes, go on. So I have a few camera things I want to talk about. Go on. Okay. Google added a thing called Camera Looks. I saw this. Yes. So Camera Looks is kind of like the Fuji film film simulations in a lot of ways. I did an interview with Isaac Reynolds, Google Pixel Camera Chief. Last time I interviewed him was for the Pixel 4. So it's been a while. That was their prime. It was their prime. It was, well, except for the whole solely thing, we don't talk about that. Yeah. But

at the time, when I interviewed him in 2019, it was wild because their whole mentality at Google was, if you are tapping anything on the screen except for the shutter button, it is error. That's what he told me in 2019. All input is error. The Elon approach.

All inputs error. This year, notably extremely different. There are so many settings now in the pixel camera. You have pro modes. You have manual settings, you got everything. But there's this new mode now called camera looks. Camera looks, there are four defaults for sort of like the original camera look, and then you have vanilla, which makes it a little more kind of like warmer.

And then there's a classic, I don't know, there's a few primary, and then there's a bunch of basically film simulations. So you've got the digicam simulation. But it has these built into? Yeah, it's also built in called Digi. There's a minimal one, which basically removes. So, okay, the coolest thing about all of this is that the way that they are doing this is that they are doing less computational photography dynamically. But in the most Google way possible, depending on the settings that you change with the contrast and the options that you pick, because you basically pick one of these film modes, like the digicam mode, whatever.

And then you can change settings like contrast, you can change settings like sharpness, like all of these things. depending on the settings you change, the processing will dynamically do less HDR or less sharpness, things like that. So when you do, you know, when you're taking an HDR photo, it's compositing a bunch of sampled frames on top of each other to give you better noise reduction, things like that. And the Google camera team is very, very sure that this is the best possible way to make a photo. I disagree. And apparently a lot of people have disagreed because now they have this camera looks thing. And now, when you take a photo with one of these modes, it's using less samples to actually have less sharpness, make it a little bit softer, make it have a little bit less detail in the shadows, things like that. Imperfection is.

Imperfections. They are using machine learning to dynamically give you less perfect photos, which is the most... But only in these modes, right? But only in these modes. Not like by the default camera. No, the default camera is the same. Can set it as a default, though? You can set four modes as a default, annoyingly.

This is very annoying. You can't set like the digi simulation as a default. You can only set, the only defaults you can set are like the vanilla, the like minimal. There's four options. Okay. And then there's a bunch of film options. But it's the most Google thing in the world to use machine learning to dynamically decide how much computational photography they should be doing it all.

So that's very funny. And I think it's really cool because what's been to be. It's what people have been asking for for a long time. It's clearly a direct reaction to people using a lot of third-party camera apps that give you these features. So that's pretty great. I think it's nice. Yeah, it's good.

I will definitely be messing with these. It almost opens a can of worms into a much bigger conversation, which is, I'm not going to do it. So don't take the bait. Don't do it. But are we at peak smartphone if, like, most of what we're trying to do with new smartphone cameras is give them some imperfections back. Yes.

But don't take the bait. Don't. Well, that's another episode. Okay. We'll do that. That is a great separate episode. One hour later.

I do think it's amazing that we're making cameras worse because they are too perfect. And Isaac Reynolds was like, no, we, like, we've solved the camera. Which sure, if you want it to look like ass, but, you know. Anyway. So the other end of the camera spectrum. Yeah. Because I noticed there's a lot more, when I was doing my hands on, there's a lot more

buttons in the camera mode. Yeah. Another one when you slide over to the left is just this magic capture feature. Yes. Which is, and they showed it at the event as well, all you do is, again, this is about living in the moment. So don't even bother snapping photos and videos. Whatever's happening in front of you, just open up magic capture and start it and point it at the scene. And then whatever happens happens.

And at the end, Google's magic capture will have decided on some photo frames and some videos to capture for you that are the best, the highlights, that scene. Yeah. And they give some examples which are interesting. I think a nice example would be like, I don't know, solar eclipse is happening in front of you or something. And instead of like pointing your phone at it in front of your face, you should just like enjoy the thing in front of you. And so just start a magic capture and whatever it decides it's happening. It'll capture it. But the example they use is much more action packed. It was like people playing basketball in front of you, different poses, different, you know, people looking at the camera versus not. looking. It will smartly take tons and tons of frames, sift it down, pick the best ones, and give it to you. Yeah. Magic. Yeah. You sold me on that feature. At first I was like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, no, that it's funny because in the keynote, the example, they said it was a live demo. Their example was that he was at a basketball game, and he's like, you want to live in the moment. So he has his phone just recording while he's watching the game. I've tried doing this before, and it's really hard. If you're not looking at the

screen, your hand kind of, your hand kind of just drifts. And it's really difficult. Yeah. You're not in the moment. Things still need to be in frame. I don't, you need to keep looking at your, it's difficult. Yeah. It's notably very difficult.

Yeah. So we're going to have to really try that out. What I found very interesting is that it's one of the three modes now, because previously you had, you had photo mode and video mode. Yeah. Now there's photo video and magic capture. Yeah. That's the first thing I was going to write up there.

Like, wow, a new button? This must be a big deal. Yeah. Magic capture. Yeah. Which, I think it's interesting. But I could see it being useful for like, uh, the group photo that you have to put the camera down and go on the timer.

And then every time you go back and someone blinks, just like throw a magic capture on. Yeah. Everyone get in and grab a frame. Or, or give a tripod. Yeah. You frame the video first and then you hit magic capture and then you go do the thing. I don't know. You want to be in front of your daughter as she's blowing the candles out of her cake.

You don't want to be like the vision bro. guy who's like doing this like filming her, you know, which is incredible. That's in the moment, technically, I guess just through a screen. Yeah. So there are some uses for it. It's going to be interesting to see if it actually works. You took it out of my mouth though, because I was going to say, isn't this video? It's video, but so it's Google Clips. Yeah, yeah, exactly. If you guys don't know what this was, many years ago, Google sold a small clip-on camera. You could either just like put it in the corner and mount it somewhere, but the whole point was it would, it was a little clip on camera that you'd clip to things, and it would just record for like two hours or whatever, and it would

just find random frames throughout the day when it noticed you were smiling or whatever, and it would send you like these updates of like, oh, look at all these photos of you and your family having a happy time. Now I don't think we would ever put a camera made by Google in our, in our houses that we're constantly recording. But this is effectively what magic capture does, which is funny. At least you are manually turning it on instead of just letting it do its thing whenever you,

whenever it wants. I think it sounds useful and fun. I just don't believe the live in the moment because then you're just going to get a bunch of videos of people's feet in the ground. Yeah, unless you have a tripod or something. Yeah. Or that's what you're going for.

That's, you know. Hey. Hey. Use their own. Okay. I have a really, really crazy what is a photo slash what is a video thing. Oh, no.

David. We can't do an hour on this. We don't have to... This is a small can of worms or a medium can of worm? We can make it small for now, but I want you to chew on it and later we'll talk about it again. All right. Okay, so they haven't... So if you remember, there's a mode where you can upload your footage to the cloud, and it will do a bunch of things like upscaling it to 8K and video boost.

And it makes the low light video, it will brighten the shadows and do all this stuff because that has to run on Google's... tensor cores in their server centers, whatever. Still a really weird thing that you would do that. And it's like, I guess you're just doing it with the videos you want to and it takes up a lot of storage, et cetera. There's a new thing in it inside a video boost called a pro-stable video. And this is basically optimizing the stabilization of your video. So if you're walking, you know, you're running, whatever, it'll stabilize it. If it thinks it needs stabilization, what it is actually doing, this is so crazy.

is that every frame in the video it is using as information for a gougain splatting 3D model. Oh my God. So it builds a 3D model of the scene and it uses every frame to then gouge and splat the scene, which is a relatively new technology where you basically create 3D stuff out of 2D images based on micro camera shake and things like that because you're seeing around the pixels, etc. And what it does after it creates the 3D model of your scene, it then creates a virtual camera track inside of the scene that flies the camera through. Are you kidding me?

I'm not kidding you. And then they told me that they actually had to add some camera shake back because it just looked like a literal drone shot and people felt uncomfortable with it. So they had to add artificial camera shake a little bit back to. to make it seem like it wasn't. So now my, like, what's crazy is like, because it's using your frames as reference material for the 3D model for the whatever, you're still technically getting the same video back,

but there is a 3D model of your scene that a virtual camera is flying through and what you're getting back is kind of a 3D render of reality. Heavy mix of reality and interpreted things. Yeah. Huh. Can we just appreciate that Google, can take a video, 3D map every single frame, create a fake camera, track you, add shake

back to make it look good, and the fucking RGB light on the back. Five colors and can only do calls. Yeah. And one of them is white. What planet do we live on? I know. No, this is just the most like, what even is a video anymore? Like you're giving me a 3D.

It's almost like I'm getting a 3D animation back. of the reality that I captured. Yeah, that is very Google. Okay, I will chew on that. I'm going to try that as well. I'm going to pretend that never happened. It's so crazy. I can't wait to see it.

They said that they only... The Apple one's already really good. Yeah. They said they only do the pro stable video when it thinks it needs it. So you can't force it, which is annoying. So I think you should go on a run with your phone or something. I'm going to sprint down the street.

Yeah. I want to try it. Yeah, we got to like force it. Samsung stabilization, though, is pretty good. Different. Yeah, it doesn't do this. It can flip your camera. It has EIS and OIS combined, and it'll do as best as it can with the information,

and it'll, like, crop in so it has way more room to do the stabilization. But you'll see that it's... This is the most Google thing in the world that's, like, use software to just completely eliminate the need for hardware. Whoever thought of that was, like, how many tons of chips we got? Yeah. You've had an idea. The Gaussian splitting is a new, rapidly evolving technology.

What if we just really took advantage of it? Wow. So, I think that's just crazy. I just wanted to talk about that. Yeah. That's the main stuff. The rest of the features on the phones themselves is Android 17s. Like you've seen this on.

Yeah. Pixels. Like there's not that much stuff that I saw on the Pixel 17s that I tested that I was like, oh, this is definitely not coming to the pixels from last year. Yeah. That's the big question and that people keep asking me about too. Because there's another feature called Creator Suite that is also in the video in the video section. It's built in.

It's built into the pixels only right now. We'll see if it comes to Android 17 later because for some reason they added the like TikTok cutout reactions feature to Android. But the creator suite is a section in the video. It's a part of the video section that gives you a teleprompter. It gives you audio enhancement features. It gives you frame guides for like if you're doing nine by six. You can pick your aspect ratio.

Social media. And UI guide. Yeah. My take on this is that they were, they're trying to capture the UGC crowd, which is user generated content. the people that are like opening 20 boxes a day and just making like fake ads yeah um that's a growing huge amount of people by the way so i think that google really wants to capture those people but teleprompter worked pretty good i'm not yeah yeah teleprompter you just input and you can speech to text whatever

you can input a couple paragraphs of whatever and then you start recording with the feature on and it hears you so it can advance the teleprompter as you speak and it was which is google's bread and butter like voice dictation understanding your voice wait we should use that for the I was just thinking of that. Yeah. If we were to record our ads on a pixel, it would look great. Can we not just like put it in the tray of the two-way mirror and then just have it in advance? I don't know if it would hear us.

That feature, yes, would work well. No, I would hear you. I guess the idea is it's showing that text at the top of the display right under the selfie camera. Yeah. So it looks like you're looking at it. Looks like you're making eye contact, but you're reading. Yeah, I'm like a, I'm vibe coding this for the iPad. I'm surprised.

It probably exactly. There's probably a way to advance the teleprompter based on talking. Yeah, I'm tired of standing up. Yeah. For those don't know, we've been manually advancing. Like everyone has done since the history of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caveman manually advanced.

This is perfect for AI. Perfect for AI. Yeah. So, yeah. Otherwise, it's a pixel. Yeah, otherwise it's pixel. I just want to talk about those software features. It's pixel by the pixel 10.

The big question, the huge, huge question in the room that I, for some reason, didn't think to ask, which was really obvious, is. like which of these features are coming to Pixel 10, if any. Yes. Yeah. I don't think they're not going to tell us. That's probably true. What they will say is either.

We have no, we have no plans. We have no crack at it by the Pixel 11. Yeah. If you want it now, Pixel 11. Or we have no future plans. Or we do not disclose future plans. Yeah. They'll say something like for the messaging feature, for highlight, they'll be like,

we will work on this. Yeah. And then you'll go, okay. When's that going to? we'll see yeah yeah so yeah I don't know

I like all those features but if they come to the pixel 10 it's almost like I like them a lot more what is this phone yeah but does it have Matt Black Rails that's true

just get some spray paint Marquez that's fine you're gonna give up your insane battery life for Matt Black Rails no I do the 1 plus 15 is still you can charge it 1500 watts

it's fine yeah that phone is killer you're just charging it 2016 in the United States I want the one plus 15 with the pixels camera chops and some of the software features. I don't even think it's not going to happen. Anyway, that's what we're going to happen.

I think we should go right to the end, which is our last segment. Trivia. My laptop was muted. Did it again. We're back. We're so back. I'm never going to forget this podcast. This is crazy.

Question number one. Trevor Noah was surprised by Liverpool legend Stephen Gerard. But before Mr. Gerard came out, Trevor wondered if it was actually him or Gemini speaking in what regional English accents? Wait, are we shouting it out? Oh, yeah, wait, wait. Do we want to? Liverpoolese. Hold on.

We could slide. Do we want to do a round? want to do a rapid or do we want to slack it to me? I think that's the whiteboard. I think you're the only one that knows the answer, Marcos. Really? He knows the answer? I might know the answer.

How confident do you feel, David? How confident do you feel, Andrew? Are you going to say cock me? No, I'm starting to worry it's not a British accent. I don't know. David, are you going to submit an answer? All right. Andrew Marquez, on three, say what you're thinking.

One, two, three. Liberty. Neither of you said. Dang. Were they reasonable? What did you say? Welsh. No.

You're closer. Counts, points. I think this accent derives from a Welsh accent, but it is not. Would Welsh people be really mad that I said that? Or would Liverpool people be really mad that I said that? I don't know. Would Trevor know it be really mad that I said that? I don't think so.

Mark has you said, that's all I care about. I said Gaelic. No, that is not. Correct. Gaelic is a whole language that is not English. Yeah. Whoops. David, do you want to just throw something out there, man? He did.

Liverpoolese. That is technically correct, although not the word I was looking for. The word I was looking for was scouse. Yeah, you know, scouse. He said that? I have heard that in the event. He said, is that Liverpool legend Stephen Girard, or is that Gemini speaking with a scouse accent? I think I'm going to get the next one right

I told you we would learn something new Alright question number two Yeah HTC had a case That would cover the screen of their phone And show you little notification graphics And stuff underneath What was it called?

Should we yell it out? No slack it to me Because I don't like it when you all yellow Because I can't hear Okay Slack it to Ellis or Adam Me Also there's no way to

Like if I have you guys do it one at a time then it kind of defeats the purpose. I think it's that, but I... I'm pretty sure that I'm right. I think I'm right. All right. Let's go around the room. David, what did you say?

Dot matrix. Dot matrix, Andrew. I wrote quick dots. Quick dots. And I only wrote dots because Marquez said dots. I wrote dot matrix. Dot matrix. Definitely.

The answer is... Dot view. Really? Dot view. So is that the name of the heck? but it was a dot matrix case i believe so yes oh the case was called the dot matrix case itself was a dot i knew that that's why i thought well no one got any points marquez still with one andrew andrew with three david with three i thought it was video on this is really short it was a four minute marquez

yeah well it was just a case oh the dot view case it was a feature the dot matrix it was by the way this is one of them i was that is the one of the first like three videos i ever shot on a red camera Really? I think it's actually the first one I ever shot on a red camera because it was a rented red scarlet. And it was the first video I ever published in Real 4K, first video I ever shot in Raw, first video I ever shot in Spain, and first video I ever shot in Mobile World Congress. Wait, this is cool. Yeah, I remember a lot of stuff. No, no, no, no, sorry, sorry, that's not in Spain.

That case I shot in my college, I first got it in Spain and brought it back to my apartment. So it was on the red, but it was not in Spain. It is dot view, by the way. Dodd view, yeah. This is sick as hell. Yeah, right? And if you managed to screen record what was happening on the screen, it was just a bunch of blobs. Yeah, yeah.

But it was a really clever feature. Wait, why? Phones used to be cool. Dude, we've gotten so far backwards. It can't do red. And that is the end of the podcast. Thank you for watching. Obviously, stay tuned and get subscribed if you haven't already, because the reason

we are in this hotel room is because we shot this crazy other podcast that is in the works so so stay tuned for it it's amazing i can't overpromise but i really think it's he's over promising it's so good um but uh yeah well otherwise catch you very soon in our regularly scheduled programming so see you then my head hurts peace wait from is produced by adam malina and eclipse we were partnered with the vogue media podcast network and our intro outro music was created by vane still. Eclipse. That'd be a point.

And Brandon Havard. Oh, yeah. And Brandon Havard. It's behind the camera. Oh, yeah. Turn the camera on, Brandon. Yeah. Turn to camera.

I can do all of David's talking one. Camera look worse, but better?