Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - YouTube Sues, Elon Tweets, and Apple Has Battery Problems

Episode Date: August 23, 2019

This week's episode of Waveform quickly recaps some feedback and videos we love, before diving into a few big headlines including YouTube taking on copyright abuse, Elon Musk wanting to nuke Mars, and Apple having a few issues in the battery department. After all that, we take a few listener questions to wrap everything up. Enjoy!  Episode sponsored by 1Password: https://1password.com/mkbhd/ Don't forget to follow us at: https://twitter.com/wvfrm  Original Music by Kamren Barlow: https://bit.ly/2ZaLddo  Links discussed in the episode:  MrWhosetheboss Smartphone Fails: https://bit.ly/30lOlj3  Sam Sheffer Deadmau5 Tour: https://bit.ly/2L5qygG  Samsung's iMessage gifs: https://bit.ly/2ZfJHG7  Louis Rossman on 3rd party batteries: https://bit.ly/33TdZhp    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Marques Brownlee. And this is Andrew Manganielli. And today we've got a whole bunch of stuff that is pretty much never in the news. So we've got YouTube controversies. We have Elon Musk tweets, Apple exploding batteries, and we'll go ahead and wrap it up with a quick Q&A from you guys all in about an hour's work. We got a lot to talk about. We're going to do these podcasts, first of all, every two weeks. So I think Friday is the day we're picking, Friday morning, every two weeks to drop these episodes. And a lot has happened in the last two weeks since last Friday. So I think I'll just start with the main thing that we wanted to focus on, which was improving the actual quality of the

podcast. We got a lot of feedback from you guys on Twitter, in the comments section, on the waveform Twitter. Mainly the quality of the audio itself. that's something i was trying to focus on we've done a little bit with that yeah we've done a lot with that hopefully you can tell i think people with headphones will notice the most because the main thing was there was a hiss the noise floor was i don't know if it's up or down but it basically was causing a hiss in dead spots the noise floor was pretty high we We had some background noise. We had the jellyfish server right behind you, which is being picked up by the mic. That's off now.

So those fans aren't spinning. And we had some other like noise stuff that we've eliminated. The Shure microphones that we're using to record this are often sold with what's called a cloud lifter. And we just got the microphones and set them up and didn't have a cloud lifter and turns out they're amazing they're essentially amplifiers for these mics that will help bring much more volume adding adds like 10 to 15 decibels yeah they're sure sm7 bees are quiet they're definitely made everything I've been reading now because

I've been the last two weeks I've been reading a bunch on audio which is super fun they're definitely studio microphones Right now we're just kind of set up in the middle of our studio, which has pretty good soundproofing, but not totally ideal. Yeah. We are looking for a studio, a separate podcast room in the new studio for next year. So I cannot wait for that. I'll just go ahead and say, I was just in a little bit of a radio interview earlier today with NPR. You guys have already heard that by the time this goes live. And they had a whole entire room, of course, dedicated to just recording audio. And I learned a lot just sitting in that room looking around. You don't want parallel walls. You want tons of sound isolation. The room itself is pretty small. Either way, small teaser,

the 2020 studio will have a dedicated podcasting space to sound amazing and for the video version for subscribers on the channel will look pretty good too. So that's in the future. Yeah, that's a bright future ahead. But the main thing right now is people who listened on headphones, they heard a hiss in the last episode. I heard it.

Yeah, I definitely heard it. I think a lot of people in cars maybe didn't hear it because you have some car noise and it might have not come through. If you had your volume up really loud, you probably heard it, but hopefully everything is fixed. It should sound way better now. Yeah. Up to our standards. I think hopefully we'll just get better. Yeah. A lot of people on Twitter and on our subreddit gave advice. It was fun reading all of it. Did a lot of of research so since the last episode a couple videos have gone live on the channel and i want to give some updates to those that's what i think the podcast is going to be primo perfect for first of all the apple card so a ton of attention you

wouldn't think like a little uh little piece of metal little titanium card would get let's get some let's get some card as here. A little titanium dropping. It makes a pretty satisfying noise. But the card itself is just a physical version of the Apple credit card that you could already apply for and get in the Wallet app. Small fact check in that video. I said you couldn't use the actual physical card unless you used Face ID for secure login. That part is not true you can use

the card itself because that is a chip without face id but also i'm holding the card here looking at it it wears okay it's an all white card so it's like you see this little scratching on the back and the magnetic strip i think it's been swiped to maybe like six times yeah you've had that for like two weeks so yeah it's gonna scrape down there i mean every credit card does but if you're just if you're looking for this perfect white apple credit card pure aesthetic and i just shared i just retweeted it's a hilarious account but a johnny i've parody account one of the best accounts on one of the one of my favorite accounts um where he tweeted a matte black photoshop of this card and it looks great and there's other matte black metal cards out there too but i would have liked to have seen that. Yeah. I think what was interesting

about us posting it when we looked the only other video about an Apple card on YouTube at that point was a guy shooting it with a 22 caliber pistol. I couldn't believe that. I literally like looked it up. I was like, is this the first video of an Apple card on YouTube? I don't know. Looked it up and yeah, sure enough, it's a, it's a durability test with a couple of bullets in it. That's the only other video. It did surprisingly well. Yeah, it did good. But yeah, a lot of people watch that Apple card video. I don't really have any other updates other than if you're thinking about getting one,

because it is out now, it is actually shipping to people who are applying and getting them. Think about the ecosystem. It's not an amazing credit card it has the one percent uh rewards for using the physical card two percent for anywhere there's apple pay which is pretty common in the united states and then three percent with uh i think it's uber is their partner now oh really and apple.com i think it's actually or all i thought i read all apple products it is all apple products and apple.com, Apple stores, Apple, whatever you use this card for. I don't buy that much stuff from Apple, so it's not a huge deal to me. So it's mainly a 2% off type of program.

Hey, I mean 3% cash back on whatever the hell this Mac Pro is going to cost. That's a great point. That is a great point if this ends up being a very expensive computer. But I have what, five bucks? I have $4.64 of Apple Cash now that I can add to my iTunes account if I want to. Pretty psyched about that. Okay, the other video that went live

that I thought was a lot of fun was the 5G Explained video. This is a super fun project to actually work on because we kind of got the idea and we had some other versions of this floating around before we actually did it. Yeah, we were potentially... I think the main thing is we've been seeing on twitter all this time like just screenshots of look at these speeds it's all the same yeah every single one is you see

a person outside with a picture of their phone getting 1700 down yeah well how do i get that because that's amazing and it's always verizon took me to chicago to test the latest like it's always the same thing and i was like well i would love to have gone on one of those trips i actually remember saying no to one because we had other stuff so i think it was retro tech actually oh yeah so now that the galaxy s10 5g was on sale and i could just do it myself that became the plan i mean it wasn't even the plan was go to test it we were thinking of flying to chicago oh yeah something came up and then we're like oh we'll push that back to another week and then marquez and i were sitting here on like a wednesday what video are we gonna

do next like we can't do note yet uh the note 10 5g doesn't come out till later. So you couldn't do Note 10 5G. But I had ordered, spoiler, I spent, what was it? $1,600 something with tax and shipping on the Galaxy S10 5G. And I was like, you know what? Instead of going to Chicago, we looked up Verizon 5G cities. And turns out Providence, Rhode Island is one of those hotspots. Yeah, and just a measly four-hour drive away. It helps that I like driving. I really like Apollo. I really like driving. is one of those hot spots. Yeah, and just a measly four-hour drive away. It helps that I like driving. I really like Apollo.

I really like driving. So Brandon came through and we hopped up in the car, brought the video gear, brought the Galaxy S10 5G, and drove into Providence. It was like a four-hour drive. We supercharged along the way, got some food. Can I say something about I don't travel very much in Teslas, and I've always thought a huge drawback was i have to sit in supercharge we we grab lunch on the way there

grab coffee and then on the way back grab just like quick top super like subway at a rest stop none of those times we were specifically waiting for charging like it was all stops we wanted to make to grab some food and we made it the whole way. So yeah, that was just new for me. I was impressed by it. The human body clock is definitely going to run out faster most of the time than the battery. So if you just stop to use the bathroom and charge for five minutes. The one thing you have to keep in mind with Tesla road trips, I know this is turning into a Tesla thing again, but the one thing about Tesla road trips is the batteries charge significantly faster from a low power state. True, yeah.

So the best stop we did was the one on the way home where we got back to that charger, which happened to be at like a quick food stop. But we got back. I think I had 45 miles on my battery out of the full 300 miles. I think we were even lower. I thought it said we were getting there at like six miles or something. It was going to be. I drove pretty like conservatively and we got there with a good amount 300 miles. I think we were even lower. I thought it was pretty low. I thought we were getting there at like six miles or something. It was going to be. I drove pretty like conservatively and we got there with, you know, a good amount of

miles, but like 40 miles left on the battery is pretty low. And plug in, I think by the time we even got our food to eat, we could have left and gotten home. We had like 90 miles on the battery. So it charged very fast from the lowest state. And that's something to keep in mind if you're, if you're ever, this is a super niche piece of advice, but you're, if you're ever doing a Tesla road trip and you're trying to figure out when to charge

low battery is a, is a good time to charge. Surprise. Back to 5g. Yeah, it was a fun trip. It was wonky. Wonky probably has to be one of the best way to describe how it worked for us. I mean, we were doing millimeter wave. It's just a pole that kind of downtown Providence, which is a beautiful town, by the way, right next to Brown University. Right next to Brown, yeah. I'm so glad we went there rather than Chicago. Nothing against Chicago, but a big city like that makes filming so much harder.

This was a super nice small town looked great and then we realized we just drove four hours to film a telephone pole essentially any regrets i don't think that was no regrets we learned a lot oh yeah the amount of times you would just be like all right get ready to film up i'm on 4g yeah but i can see it oh no i'm on 5g i didn't move or do anything and now i get 2000 down It's like, what is happening? I put it in my pocket and took it back out. And now I'm back on 4G. Yeah.

Okay. So a couple of behind the scenes things you guys didn't see from the video. One, really, truly the amount of times we switched back and forth between 4G and 5G without changing anything was staggering. I had a section I cut from the video where I just walked in circles, basically, around the 5G tower and like raised my hand when I had 5G and put my hand back down when I had 4G and there was really no rhyme or reason for like further away as 4G or closer as 5G like I could just stand in one spot and have

it switch back and forth for no reason the other thing is we were on Brown's campus and a couple people of course came by and like noticed the camera gear like, oh, I know you're a YouTuber. You said hi. I asked each one of these people, they were like, why are you here? Why are you in Rhode Island? It's this little town. And I said, I'm shooting a video on 5G. And they're like, oh, cool.

And I asked each person, did you know there's 5G here? No. No. Didn't know that. Most of them were like, I didn't even know 5G here? No. No. Didn't know that. Most of them were like, I didn't even know 5G was out or like a thing you can physically use yet. Yeah, nobody around here was using 5G, so it was super, super empty.

I mean, I'm sure a couple people heard about it or maybe were using it. But yeah, if you just walk through and just did a speed test, you could get your, in the video, I got 2,000 megabits per second down at a certain point which is insane um another thing i didn't really talk about much which is not something i know how to prove yet but when i first moved into this building i got about a thousand down on the wi-fi for this studio and i was the only person on this floor, right? So people move

in, tenants plug in their routers, people start splitting the signal going into the building. And today we get like 90 down, like in the same spot, on the same exact router and the same exact connection. I don't know if that inflection is going to happen with 5G. Because today, in 2019, almost nobody uses 5G, and I go out there to Providence, and I stand next to the pole, and I get 2,000 down. Yeah, you could probably argue that anybody taking a screenshot of a crazy download speed is probably the only one at that time

on that small millimeter wave tower. Probably the only one, yeah. So, yeah, I don't know if in 2022, when I go back to a 5G city or maybe New York City has it by then, or maybe it's just right outside the studio. If I do a 5G speed test, is it, am I ever going to get that speed again? No clue.

We did find out someone in the building does work on 5G stuff. So maybe when we meet them downstairs for lunch one day. If they're listening, yo, reach out, come through. Maybe we can, we can figure out what to do a speed test next. But that's something I didn't know exactly how to address. So it wasn't in the video, but keeping an eye on that. So that's your 5G update.

Also, the Galaxy S10 5G, pretty nice phone, even if you're not on 5G. Yeah. Yeah, pretty good. Battery life is very, very good on 4G. I'll add that. Not on 5G. Also, by the time you see this, Galaxy Note 10 review is probably live, but that'll

be its own whole separate thing, so stay tuned. Okay. Some other short topics. Some short internet news. We sort of left on that note of the last podcast that I was heading out to San Jose for Ultimate Frisbee for the ADL.

We did, in fact, win our games. That's awesome. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. So that was the final four of the AUDL, which is the professional Ultimate Frisbee League in the United States and Canada. We won our semifinal against Indianapolis in a bit of a nail biter. And then we went on to the finals the next day to rematch Dallas, who we lost to in the playoffs last year. And we avenged ourselves and got a trophy out of it. That's awesome. Dallas has been known, for those of you who don't follow Ultimate,

they've been known as a powerhouse in this league. They've been in the championship weekend. Pretty much since they came into it, yeah. Yeah. They're a big team. They're a tall team, which Empire is a tall team as well. Something you guys probably all saw was marquez had a pretty disgusting layout um it was almost too perfect oh yeah yeah people don't understand

what turf uh if you've never slid or something on turf it's miserable it hurts very bad um i think a lot of people even noticed in our last video you have a big cut on the inside of your elbow yeah that's from that one video you guys saw the thing about turf is there's like there's even different layers not layers like levels of turf yeah so i've played on like really nice soft turf fields where i'm like this feels like grass i'd lay out and slide and i'd be fine and there's turf in new york where i'm not exaggerating when i say it feels like a layer of felt on top of concrete. Like it barely qualifies as turf. Like it's really bad.

And that's like bad for your knees and you don't even think about laying out. This is like nice turf. It was in San Jose. It was a pretty, it was an overall nice weekend. I'm not complaining about anything, but yeah, that hurt a little bit. Yeah, and they always say behind every great play

is a completely mediocre throw. So shout out to Tristan Y yarder for that horrific throw you know what it had just the right amount of edge that i could make a play and my defender couldn't so yeah shout out to tristan thanks thanks tristan all right two videos i have on the internet this week that i think are worth sharing last week you had uh simone's yeah uh mantis shrimp video i ended up watching it it was great. I got two videos for you cool So first one is from mr. Who's the boss? It's not even so much the video but just about this topic I've been thinking about for a while. So mr. Who's the boss fellow tech youtuber?

I'll it'll be linked in the show notes You guys probably already know of his channel his video on why crazy phones fail hmm and we talked about smartphones so much on this channel because we get really hyped about all these wild new things and trying to figure out if they're gimmicks or not. And you sort of put yourself in the seat of a manufacturer thinking about making a new phone. If you're Samsung and you have this crazy new gimmick, like, I don't know, folding it in half or something wild like that, are you going to make that the newest feature on your flagship or are you going to make a separate line with maybe even

a separate name so you can try crazy new stuff and if it fails it doesn't damage your if it ain't broke don't fix it brand true and that's something i've never really put into words but i really appreciated like people are willing to take risks as he says on smaller decisions like whoa where do we go for dinner well i've never had this let's try it if it doesn't whatever i'll just take a snack when i get home but like on your three years of a phone contract coming up do you take a risk on this folding phone or this swiveling motor in selfie camera like there's all kinds of weird stuff going on. That's unproven basically. And people don't buy that.

It's kind of a, it's kind of a weird place to be. And I felt like that was a good way of saying it. Yeah. Then the other video was Sam Sheffer, good friend, New York city YouTuber doing a tour of the dead mouse cube that he performs in.

It's a new cube, right? The new cube. Yeah. Which that was, it's again, a super high tech look, but it's a behind the scenes. So if you don't know dead mouse cube that he performs in it's a new cube right the new cube yeah which that was it's again a super high-tech look but it's a behind the scenes so if you don't know deadmau5 already he's an electronic music producer he tours all the time i've had his music and videos in the past and we've hung out in a couple of times as well he he does this cube thing on stage how do i describe this

it's hard to describe it is a cube it's but it's a bunch of screens essentially it's like a 25 foot tall led wall yeah in the shape of an actual 3d cube that he's he takes a ladder up into and dj is in it and it's got these continuous moving images on the outside of it that sync up with the music and the light show and the venue it's it's a whole thing it's a we went to a show once um we we were gonna do a video with him we wound up scrapping it because we never finished it but we actually got to go up into one of his i think it was v2 i think the new one's v3 i'm not totally sure on that um and we got to go up in it. It was crazy. And we got to see the show after.

And I've never seen one of his shows. His music's great, but his show is so much more. It's great. It's insane to watch. It's a vibe. Yeah. People go crazy, but it's just completely fascinating about the music. And he does all these graphics that fit with the music that are showing

on this crazy cube under along with lights it's incredible underrated pieces he is responsible for a lot of the graphics and coding and what goes on that you see on the cube so not only is he making the music and the performance and djing and making that happen but the visuals that go with it it's pretty great i'm pretty sure he has a mini one at home that he sets on a table yes where he can test all this stuff out which is it's so cool it's wild so if you if you haven't seen that video i'll also link that in the show notes sam sheffer does a behind the scenes look and gives a pretty in-depth tour of that and you can get a little peek of maybe what you might want to see at his show all right we're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back and talk about some YouTube news, some Elon news and more.

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he wears socks and sandals. What's his name? Uh, Linus, Linus, Sebastian, Linus tech tips himself. He called us out on his podcast,

on his live stream. And we are officially racing to 10 million subscribers. Yes. Never thought I'd even say those words. Yeah. 10 is crazy. I think I started on the channel around like four and a half. So to think that the channel's almost doubled since I started is wild.

It's crazy. I can't like, I don't know. There's no way to visualize that scale of an amount of people. But right now, both of our channels are somewhere between nine and 9.2 million subscribers. I have a little bit of a lead on him at the current moment. He called me out. So there's hashtag team MKBHD

or hashtag team LTT. A little bit of merch war is going on. A little foul play maybe. I don't know. There will be foul play. It's Linus. Let's be real. I think we need to step up our foul play probably.

We're going to get crushed here. I need to troll a little bit more on Twitter, I think. I think that's what's happening because Linus is definitely on that troll game right now. Yeah, we unintentionally sabotaged someone. He posted a picture of someone at work wearing an MKBHD hoodie. Whoever it was in Linus' office wearing an MKBHD hoodie. It was a hoodie? It was a hoodie, yeah.

Wearing the MKBHD hoodie, It was a hoodie? It was a hoodie, yeah. Wearing the MKBHD hoodie. Thank you. Please reach out. We will send you 10 more so you can outfit everyone else in Linus Tech Tech's headquarters with more MKBHD merch and slowly everyone around Linus will be wearing my merch

and it will be amazing. Yeah. Linus has a lot of people on his team. You know that, right? I mean, 45... How many is... That's a lot of merch we got to send over there.

I sent a couple codes over but i'm willing but reach out again we'll hook you guys up fully willing to make that happen team mkbhd anyway um okay in youtube news and like actual news we have a bit of a youtube dmca discussion walk us through this i found this super interesting because youtube we all know isn't isn't run perfectly. We love it. It's still the best. There's lots of controversy around there.

Sure, yeah. A big thing we see a lot is people abusing the copyright system or DMCA takedown system. And for those who don't know what that is, there is a system on YouTube where if there's a legitimate copyright issue, someone else has re-uploaded your video. Someone else has stripped part of your video, and without your permission, put it in their video. You can use the system to take it down or to request that they take it down if it's not in fair use.

And if that does happen to your channel, you get something called a strike, which is not good. If you get three of them, you lose your channel. And I mean mean people work very hard for these channels i know a lot of people out there have tried starting channels you know how hard it is so recently around the end of june and into july they found somebody who was severely abusing the system i think the way it came about was there was some minecraft channels pretty much what happened was they were getting striked by this guy

I forget his name I don't want to know his name two of these channels I believe one was around 11,000 subscribers and one was much bigger I think between like four or five hundred thousand subscribers so imagine growing a channel to five hundred thousand subscribers and then having someone use this system to potentially take your channel down which is exactly what he did. He basically he striked both of them twice. And then because of that, Third Strike now loses your channel.

He was DMing them on Twitter and saying PayPal me X amount of money, which I also think is like he was asking for like 150 bucks. It's a little low. But either way, he was extorting them essentially and threatening to issue a third strike channel would be taken down unless they paid up luckily neither of them paid up and instead tweeted to youtube which gained some traction right and that's how youtube essentially found this guy after that they found out he he's not only doing it to these two he's focusing a lot on Minecraft channels for some reason. I think he himself had a Minecraft channel.

Oh, wow. So this is kind of like eliminate the competition slash extort some extra money out of it. Yeah, definitely. Nothing's going to go wrong there. And because they reached out to YouTube, YouTube looked him up, found he had been issuing a bunch of these, falsely, of course. And then not only that, but had 15 other accounts that he was doing the same thing with that they Serial abuser system this guy instead of working on his Minecraft channel. He was definitely just focused on ruining other people's channels

um, but the reason They decided or one of the reasons they decided to specifically target this guy's through information He found out in a copyright notice uh so he issued a copyright strike on the channel got personal information from that and then swatted somebody through that oh so he's just a horrible person this is just a terrible terrible person okay so just for if you're wondering i know there's almost no positive press ever about youtube's uh copyright system but there is a correct way to use it. I've had this happen in the past where let's say I upload a video.

This is going to be pretty close to a real world example. I upload a video on the Colorware AirPods. They've painted the AirPods and they look like custom colors basically. A company who is basically making knockoff colorful AirPods that aren't colorware decides

to rip my footage and use it in a promo video to promo their knockoff colorware AirPods and then pays lots of money to spam this video everywhere where it looks like basically because of my footage, I'm modeling these knockoff earbuds when it's just ripped footage from my ColorWare AirPods video. So what I will do, because it's basically them just ripping my footage, is this is not fair use. They're actually trying to profit from footage that they've not even asked me if they could use. I can use this copyright system to put in their video, put in my original video link, and basically swear under, not even under oath. No, there's a box you have to check when uploading. Under penalty of perjury, you have to say that this is a correct usage of the copyright system. You put in the

address, you put in everything, and you submit the timestamps to make sure it's all accurate, and click go, and it sends a notice and it will take down the video that they're not allowed to use. That's also how they'll see, they'll get an email with my information saying this is the person or the channel that decided to send a DMCA copyright strike. That's all the information right there. So that's what that guy's getting. But yeah, that's a correct way to use the system. I almost never use it. People re-upload my videos all the time and I don't really care. I just, whatever.

But like that particular case was a pretty egregious spam use of it. So, but yeah, there's tons of negative press about using the system incorrectly. And like, you know, big, big, big record labels hearing like somebody hum three seconds of a bit of music and it gets manually claimed. Another bit of verbiage people often hear but might not know what it means. A manual claim versus an automatic claim. YouTube has a system where it automatically detects copyrighted music. And if you're a business that's a part of that system you can upload all of your music and youtube will recognize it and if someone else uploads music or videos with your music in it automatically it will get a copyright notice yeah and then i think

you can dispute it and go to manual review after that right but there's been this rash of manual claims of like people who work for these companies going in and finding youtubers who've uploaded videos with like a split second of music in the background or like literally they'll like hum part of a song or like say the lyrics without singing yeah like a car drives by and has the window open blasting music and you'll see it and you'll get the time stamp and it's just like really this is why you claimed it and then you have to go through the speed process and in that time the adsense revenue is held. So this is this whole problem for creators who rely on that revenue where the big companies

really don't like, why are they even? I don't know. Anyway, so the abuse of the system is far and wide and in all kinds of weird ways. I've always dreamed of YouTube totally revamping the system. But I'm almost wondering if this is going to potentially help start something like that i did hear uh phil defranco went over this and he did mention towards the end that they were working on a new thing that if music's heard in the background for exactly reasons like that someone hums something you hear it in the background i think it's up to like five seconds

of a song would be allowed i'm not totally sure on that um but yeah this kid he has he went over the top you have to think they're kind of using him as an example yep he's an example he's a little bit of precedence so youtube actually filed a lawsuit against him they sued him and setting an example like you if you abuse the system you will not be treated well i don't know what's gonna happen to the kid but i mostly hope that this is people who are going to attempt to do this in the future, see what's happening and get scared before doing something like this

because it's a terrible thing. I'm glad YouTube has a bit of a spine here. They could just sit back and be the huge company and be like, hey, listen, we'll make it stop. We'll change the system. But yeah, I appreciate the extra little action to create or to protect the creators in that little bit so good luck yep our boy elon musk our boy elon in the news a little bit elon's

in the news really yeah he's never in the news if you had to guess where he said something to get caught in the news what would you guess probably either linkedin or i'm gonna go with tiktok because he's usually on tiktok right, he's definitely for sure on TikTok. No, he probably tweeted. Of course. Yeah, let's be real, which is always. Yeah. What did he tweet?

I just my favorite part about Elon tweeting is his tweets are never that long. And they the amount of articles I read about this one single tweet being pages and pages long. It's incredible how little he can say and how much doesn't how much you can write yeah it's that's yeah yeah i kind of we were we were sort of in the middle of this when we first did that elon interview and he was in the middle of like a whole bunch of other twitter it wasn't even the funding secured tweet it was some other tweets before that no no yeah that was like literally like you can pick two tweets if is and there's probably like an encyclopedia written about like the implications of the companies he runs.

What did he tweet this time? Let me find the exact tweet. This is the tweet. Nuke Mars explanation point. Oh, he's talked about that. Oh, yeah, he's talked about it before. But he's bringing it up again. He changes.

He's changed it. First of all, he changes his profile picture like every day. Yeah, it's like- But it was that for a second too. It was Nuke. Right now, it is a metal dragon holding a sphere. Yeah, I don't know what that is, to be honest, but it did say Nuke Mars for a bit. So if I'm remembering correctly, he's talked about if you had to move humanity to Mars, the first thing you'd have to do is stabilize the temperature to something Earth-like.

And right now, Mars is a little too volatile. So you nuke the poles and something, something, bring the temperature down. Yeah, that's the super brief way of explaining it. We're going to go a tad more in-depth, which is probably still like 2% of in depth of what this could be about. We are not scientists by any means. Disclaimer. Yeah. So I'm going to try and I read a lot about it yesterday.

I'm going to attempt to explain it a little better. Okay, I'm excited. Go for it. So he first mentioned this about three years ago, actually on Stephen Colbert's late night TV show, which was hilarious because Colbert was asking him about, you have billions of dollars and you're doing things to the planet. Are you a superhero or are you a villain? And after his nuke Mars statement, villain would seem to be the consensus.

That's a great answer to that question. So everything I've read is that essentially, yes, Mars is too cold. At certain times in the summer, it can reach up to about 70 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, really? But for the most part in the winter at night, it's like negative 100. I think the average is like negative 50. I only know that I used to be a huge space nerd. I know that Mercury, when facing the sun, is like way too hot.

And then right when you cross into the shadow on the other side, it's way too cold. I know that about Mercury. There's no atmosphere on that planet, so it's kind of rough. I don't know how atmosphere is measured exactly, but I believe that Mars is like 1% of Earth's atmosphere. Oh, not much of an atmosphere. I mean, you have to have an atmosphere to stabilize temperature. Mercury is so close to the sun that it's just burnt up. And if you're in the sun, you're getting roasted.

And if you're on the other side, you've lost all your heat. It's not holding anything in. The atmosphere holds the heat in. Earth has some atmosphere problems. You know, people talk about that all the time. So I guess the next logical thing is to mess with Mars's atmosphere. Yeah, so pretty much if the difference on Mars is that the poles, the ice isn't made out of just water.

It's made out of a lot of carbon dioxide. So if we nuke the poles, we're essentially evaporating. Releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Exactly, into the atmosphere, creating a greenhouse gas effect and potentially starting to warm it. It's not like nuke the poles. Oh my God, it's warm. I can wear a bathing suit outside.

It's not that easy. It's potentially starting to warm the planet up, which could start letting microorganisms start to develop. And then we all know microorganisms, they feed on carbon dioxide. They release oxygen into the atmosphere. Exactly. So it's kind of a, I mean,

you don't know how many variables are in something like this, but it's kind of well thought out. You have a planet that's cold and uninhabitable, but you have lots of gases to contribute to the greenhouse effect. Now, when you say nuke, does he mean literally like fly a rocket

with nukes in it, into the pole explode i don't so what he's what he said on the original interview was the way of doing that is thermonuclear weapons you didn't exactly describe how i think he recently tweeted something along the lines of let me see if i can find it he had a follow-up tweet recently that says nuke mars refers to a continuous stream of very low fallout nuclear fusion explosions above the atmosphere to create artificial suns much like our sun this would not cause mars to become radioactive oh so even just that is is a lot different than originally kind of thinking what he said it's wild what this guy thinks about like the fact that he's thought about yeah wow yeah so yeah don't nuke mars because then it

becomes radioactive nuke right above the atmosphere create a whole lot of radiation that doesn't make it in but makes like an artificial sun that melts the caps and then releases the carbon dioxide and then creates microorganisms and then makes oxygen in the atmosphere and warms it up and then we can live there yeah if all that goes to plan yeah there's definitely absolutely nothing wrong to plan yeah there's definitely absolutely nothing wrong with that um there's not hundreds and hundreds of comments on reddit talking about how dumb of an idea this is and how it'll never work so as a non-scientist okay it sounds totally reasonable yeah but i'm sure there are a million variables as to why this would never work as

someone who's followed what elon's done for a time, I find it very difficult to bet against him actually making something happen that he's legitimately putting money into. Once he starts putting money into it, I feel like that's a legitimate claim. But if the second he puts a date on it, I can bet that he will not do it by that date. So if he said, we're going to nuke Mars by 2022 and we're going to have it habitable by 2025, I would say he's going to do it. It's just not going to happen until 2030. But if there's no date and there's no money in it yet,

it's just kind of a good idea. So he's selling t-shirts. So is this kind of a... Oh, it's just merch for Tesla. Is it a Boren Company flamethrower raise money for tunnel kind of thing it's not really connected to any one company yet i guess spacex could sort of claim it i think space spacex is the one selling the t-shirt the funny thing is spacex is doing the best out of any of elon's companies financially which is kind of crazy i

actually don't i'm not aware of yeah which is doing the best i mean tesla's i mean car companies haven't done great for a while, but they're just sort of teetering around like sustainable where SpaceX is actually doing great. Okay. So if I were to imagine an Elon company needing to fundraise, I would not have guessed SpaceX, but you know what? I also can't imagine how many t-shirts you would have to sell

in order to new cars. Yeah, that's a lot of t-shirts. You got to either sell very expensive t-shirts or a lot of t-shirts you would have to sell in order to yeah yeah that's that's a pretty that's a lot of t-shirts you got to either sell very expensive t-shirts or a lot of t-shirts i think they're 25 bucks so i guess they're trying to sell a lot so a good couple million t-shirts will take care of that just as well nice uh so next up we have apple in the news apple loves to be in the news pretty classic mostly yeah i feel like people this is apple is the most love-hate relationship that we at least see in the tech world i feel like oh yeah they're they're one of the most loved companies in the world because of the iphone they're also one of the biggest

punching bags of the media for all kinds for sure for tons of reasons tech people i'm sure a lot of people we have a lot of android fans oh there's plenty of legitimate reasons yeah there are plenty and there are a lot of non-legitimate reasons. So either way, battery issues, everyone's favorite. I heard about this. Yeah, a couple of them, which is interesting. Imagine having two different battery issues in the news within the same couple of weeks. It's kind of funny that Apple, I mean, yes, you can be in the news for battery issues, but I feel like nothing will ever quite live up to Samsung's exploding phones.

Like I'm carrying a Note 10 right now and I still think about it every once in a while. but I feel like nothing will ever quite live up to Samsung's exploding phones. I'm carrying a Note 10 right now, and I still think about it every once in a while. This is a company who made phones that exploded because of the battery. That's very true. Yeah, looking at any of this, if you see battery stuff in the news, it will almost never compare to the Note 7 fiasco. So what did they actually do?

So right now, we see a lot of controversy over Apple apple adding i believe it's a software feature or feature uh if you replace your iphone battery with a non-first party battery you're going to lose out on your battery health section of your settings right much and that's a that's a non-apple battery or a non-apple certified replacement service yeah so i think it's gonna be like that no matter what because i'm 99 sure that if you're a non-authorized seller you cannot buy first party right which is i think actually more of the big news story here or why this is bringing up because we have a there are a lot of people who are really upset with stuff like that we see right to repair all over the place yeah apple seems to be the main target of a lot of that aside from that yeah so if you go to a third party uh repair shop or do

something yourself you have you know we we all know i fix it at this point they offer a lot of tools to be able to get into all of your technology pretty easily. They'll sell you a kit to get right inside the iPhone. Yeah. And I've actually, while reading this, it seems like a fairly easy process. I mean, it's not old easy where you just pop the back off your plastic phone. It's not as easy as it used to be. But you still have to heat up the glue and pry it open. But you can get inside the iPhone.

Yeah. And because of all the resources we have on YouTube and stuff like that, it's pretty easy to figure it out. Yep. Zach. iFixit. Have you ever heard of Louis Rossman? Yes.

He's super interesting. I could listen to him rant for hours. He's got a hard stance on this, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I watched a couple things because of this, so I would highly suggest going to watch him. He is very, very opinionated. My problem with this one is I don't think this is as bad

as everyone's making it out to be. Okay, here's how I'm feeling. Yeah. I understand right to repair, right? This is one of those issues where you try to see both sides of it, right? So if you're Apple and someone's trying to get into the iPhone and replace the storage, and you're like Apple, you're like, oh, our products are so flawless, they'll do it wrong. They have to be certified.

And if they aren't certified, it won't work. We won't sell them the parts so they can't do it. Like, you're trying to protect your thing. But on the other hand, like, you're gluing it down to the board, you're, like, doing all these things to, like, actively prevent people from repairing it, which is not a good look. But when it comes to batteries, specifically, like, if you mess up a battery, it could explode. Like it could hurt you. So when you talk about giving people the right to replace their battery, on one hand, yeah, you want to be able to go in and look your iPhone battery health isn't so good, but you heard about a new battery being able to speed up the iPhone and things going well. So you want to do it yourself.

Yes. speed up the iPhone and things going well. So you want to do it yourself. Yes. But if you mess up a battery installation, like that's, that's like a risk you'd never be willing to take, like the things that could go wrong. Like if you think about reading the side effects of a medication, like if one of the side effects of the medication is possibly exploding in your pocket, you probably think twice about taking that in the first place. So I fully, in this case, understand Apple's position of do not let people who aren't certified and trained by us replace the battery it's dangerous and it's a bad idea and if we do it right we'll give them all the features everything will go great and you'll have your new battery and it'll all work out it still seems kind of like

who who even uses the battery health section that's what that's the main thing i feel like it's not that big of a deal if you put a third-party battery and it's still gonna work completely fine it's still gonna work the phone and that's actually probably more than it should like apple i could see them in another universe going look if you even take apart the iphone and replace the battery and it's not done by us it won't even turn on because it's too dangerous because you you replace the battery and that could horribly. The fact that it turns on and works and they just take this one little thing out of the section, whatever, I guess that's kind of a bummer for headlines to write about it,

but batteries are tough, man. Yeah, so Louis Rossman talking about this, his main thing was that third-party batteries, while not being able to, pretty much maybe they're not made quite as well, yes, you might not get the best performance out of it, might not get the best life out of it. He doesn't believe that third-party batteries

are necessarily that much more dangerous than first-party batteries. Lithium-ion's been around for a very long time. Yeah. In his mind, I mean, this is him. He knows more than I do, but he seems to think that first-party batteries are equally as dangerous as third-party batteries

and that it's just more of a performance that you're risking at this part. Apple's personal stance is exactly what you just said. We don't want, I mean, and I also kind of understand from Apple, not so much, I mean, yes, they're worried about safety of their customers, but the main thing they don't want is

Apple iPhone blows up in the airport, blah, blah, airport exactly their new name plastered all over the headlines no one will people might do the research but if if people find out it's a third-party battery that is not going to be in the title of yeah we've seen how badly it's going to be all the way at the bottom certain companies are punching bags and they know they're going to be and like if any tesla ever gets into a crash what's the headline say tesla got into a crash. Even if nothing to do with the Tesla, right? If an iPhone explodes, no matter what happened, it's going to be in the title. iPhone exploded, right? And people are just going to read that and assume whatever.

So yeah, I get where Apple's coming from. Oh, and we've also seen how poorly it can go when batteries go wrong and that becomes PR for your company. Like Samsung knows ask samsung about how they wish they handled batteries in the last couple years i mean they've been playing it safe since then another thing i don't really know maybe someone can tweet at us or inform me about this but i don't think apple is making the batteries i don't think samsung is making the batteries they're sourcing the batteries and they're buying what they believe to be high

quality batteries to use in their products so it it's, you know, they've chosen these, these high quality batteries. And if they don't necessarily believe a different one is high quality, they don't want you to install those because it might not be as good. But I guess to Lewis Rossman's point, Samsung picked what they thought was a high quality battery and it had major problems. So I think that might, that one might've actually been a design flaw, right? Wasn't it something? Yeah. It was the actual case of the phone enclosing the battery was pinching something.

Yeah. Pinched in the corner. Yeah. So there's, there's all kinds of variables with batteries. I guess I'm somewhere in the middle on the fence. You know, I get it. It was crazy to me. I'm like, I'm trying to find some things for the podcast.

I come up Apple battery news. Like there's something we're gonna talk about in a minute. Also that still has to do with Apple batteries. But I go in reading the comments being like, this will be easy. I can see what people think. I've never seen something so polarizing. Like this is just putting third party batteries in

and taking away a setting you probably never look at. Maybe once or twice in your phone's life. Outrage? Outrage in both. I can't believe you're sticking up for apple like this well why would apple ever want to let something like this happen and just constant constant fighting um yeah the reddit threads were fascinating i i enjoyed reading it because every i've never gone back and forth on a topic so much i'm at the point where I don't know where I stand on this. So I would highly suggest go reading. Our Apple has a bunch of threads on this.

Lewis Rossman has a video on it. We can link it in the show description. It's cool listening to everything. I think it's one of those issues that at the end of the day, it's not going to change where you fall on the spectrum of how much of a fan you are because it's not that big of a,

like similar to with Tesla. So if I use myself as an example, if I'm a fan of Tesla and I've been driving an electric car with no battery problems and a bunch of articles come out about, hey, Teslas are exploding in parking lots. They're just exploding.

Like people just saying like, oh, or writing all these articles about how a Tesla crashed and there was a fire and we just ignore all the thousands of gas car fires. It's not a big enough of a deal to where I'm actually going to change my stance on, oh, you know what? Maybe this is kind of dangerous. Maybe I don't like Tesla anymore. Like people who are hardcore Apple fans will see this and probably stay hardcore Apple fans. Look at all this over-exaggeration. It's just one setting. No one uses it.

It makes sense for them to protect them. Batteries are dangerous. Or if you're a hardcore Apple hater, it's not going to change your stance. It's not that big of a difference. Look, Apple's doing another thing that's dangerous to the, bad for the user.

They're taking away more stuff, right to repair, blah, blah, blah. So it's not really swaying me in either direction. Yeah, I actually think it'd be super interesting to bring someone who's, it sounds weird saying someone who's pro right to repair like i think most of us we're all tech heads we we like repairing things ourselves yeah but uh someone

who's really zach would be great the people at ifix it would be great um we gotta get zach we gotta get we'll definitely get zach in here yeah on the podcast 100 if you're listening zach or lewis or anyone who wants to be on this podcast you can talk about this sort of stuff yeah we're down enlighten us um we've already talked about two subjects today that we are not just raising the surface up so look i'm an expert on nuking planets fyi that's just it's your side job exactly what i do on my spare time um one other little apple thing with batteries another thing we saw with apple is some macbook battery recalls um which we're kind of getting what i think a lot of people are

calling the note 7 treatment where it's being banned from flights oh no so i mean this is this is a little shorter first of all the faa just has a rule where if a battery gets recalled it has to be put on the no fly oh yeah yeah. It's that's a good, it has to do that, but yeah, it makes headlines so much juicier when you say, blah, blah,

blah, ban from flight. Okay. This is one of those things where like, I don't, was there any like event where like a battery exploded or are they just preactive? Like,

so yes, there actually was a, it was a Reddit thread actually. Um, or one person's battery. There was a, um, as a Mac book 15, It was a Reddit thread, actually. Where one person's battery exploded? There was a MacBook 15.

It's only 15 inches, and it's one sold between 2015, 2017. So, by the way, if you have one of those, I believe you can get a free battery replacement through Apple. FYI. But there was a thread on Reddit where it's pretty bad. The guy's got it on his deck, like, outside behind his house. Oh, he showed me that video. Billowing smoke. Pouring smoke out of it. Yeah, there's behind his house. Oh, he showed me that video. Billowing smoke.

Pouring smoke. Yeah, there's like big black burn marks on the bottom. Okay. All right. So here's how this is going to go, right? Yep. One or two people have a problem with the battery. Definitely a problem, right?

Apple, to try to be safe about it, goes, you know what? All right. That's enough problems for us to decide. Let's recall the battery. If anyone has this laptop, this particular 15-inch MacBook Pro, bring it in, we'll replace the battery probably for free, right? If it's a defect, they should replace it for free. So they do the recall, press gets their hands on information

that Apple is recalling batteries after an explosion, and they get their hands on the little juicy bit that the FAA bans all products with recalled batteries, which means they can make a headline saying that 15-inch MacBook Pros are banned on planes, which is hilarious, and that's probably already a headline, and you can probably find it. You're even being too specific in the headline. I'm sure it's Apple computers banned from flights. Oh, my God.

It's really nowhere near the Note 7 when you think about it. Like that's, yes, it's going to happen. They're going to recall it. They're going to do their best to fix it. But the Note 7 was so bad. It was such a specific, like if you have a Samsung Galaxy Note 7, you cannot fly on this plane.

You can't be in the airport. You can't be anywhere near this plane. It was horrible press for Samsung. I remember shipping some phones out we sold like a year ago. Oh, you can't ship this phone? plane it was horrible press for sam i remember shipping some phones out we sold like a year ago oh you can't ship this like yeah he saw that it was a samsung box he's like oh my ups uh like the ups software said he wrote samsung phone and said like check to make sure yeah i don't know yeah they people people just boil it down because they read samsung galaxy note 7 and then they just forget all the other things and they see Samsung phone and they're like, look, Samsung phones are exploding.

Yeah, that was pretty bad for them. I'm sure Apple will find a way to quiet this one down. Yeah, it's not that bad. I think the main things to take out of this are that, first of all, I highly doubt any TSA agent is going to look up the serial number to see if you have a 15-inch MacBook Pro two from a two date to your span. Yeah, way too specific. But then on top of that, I also wouldn't doubt if you're traveling, pull your laptop out and someone from TSA is like, oh, that's a MacBook. They all look exactly the same. Like, are you sure you're allowed to have that? And then you're going to have to explain it. So if you're flying with a MacBook, get ready to explain to a TSA agent. It might happen. It's fine. There's probably a good chance that happened and then just the other thing i find kind of funny is what we talked about right

before this was apple not trusting third-party batteries and then very closely in date they come out with recalling their own first party batteries yeah due to explosions batteries are tough man yep take what you want with it I thought it was kind of funny. I know it's not just Apple. Everyone has issues with stuff like this, but you can't help but laugh a little bit. So what I've learned today is batteries are tough. Nuking planets is easy. And DMCA takedowns are somewhere in between.

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might have noticed it's August. We have done one this year, maybe. Yeah, one, maybe two. They're just, when you do so many Q&As, which we did every single month for 12 months at least, and many more previously on the channel, you start to get like the same questions over and over. Over and over and over again. Yeah, I feel like we've answered the most common questions and the more creative ones are fewer and further between. So we're not going to do a Q&A video over and over on the channel, but they might be more fun to do on the podcast to talk about more recent topics

and just sort of curious things like that. Yeah, just pick a couple. I think we were doing like 10 to 15 in the videos. This might be five or six quick ones. Yeah, but since it's a podcast, we can go like way more in depth about getting to the in the videos. This might be five or six quick ones. Yeah, but since it's a podcast, we can go way more in depth about getting to the weeds about stuff. Yeah, great.

All right. We talked about possibly shortening episodes, but this is definitely not happening. This is probably a long episode. So I hope you all had a long commute today or you're now tuning in on your way back home. Sure. So I tweeted out from Wave Forum.

We're doing a Q&A. Feel free to ask us some questions and we'll just go through them here. One of them at the top here, Jackson Hayes wants to know the current audio setup for Waveform, how we're recording, getting that crisp audio. First of all, glad you like it. Hopefully this is even better than last week. is the name of the mic. We have the Cloudlifters now, XLR cables, and I'm going to not be able to say the name of this mic stand. Mika? Mika? I don't know if Mika is the model and the brand is Yellowtech, but I know if you search Yellowtech, you can find them. And the interesting thing about these is I would not recommend, I mean, I think they're pretty expensive, but this is not a beginner microphone stand. This is a microphone stand that comes with an xlr cable built in but without the ends of the xlr cable yep that you have to solder on yourself which means you could introduce some interference or hiss if you solder it incorrectly so uh if you're just looking to just grab something from

bnh just get like a desk stand which is like 12 bucks and made of metal. This is not that, but it's been working pretty well for us so far. Yeah, it works great. I'd say if you want something quicker, Rode makes a great. They make a clamp. An arm. Yeah, an arm that just clamps onto the side of your desk for like 100 bucks. Definitely suggest those.

These are great, though. They move really fluid and everything and have the XLR cable built in, which, yeah, I had to learn how to solder in order to get it already but that was a fun small detail yeah uh plug into the road procaster and uh right into a micro sd i actually wrote it's called the roadcaster road caster yeah i searched the wrong procaster i believe is a microphone that makes yeah stop calling everything exactly the same okay so road procaster is is different from road caster yes that's the name of the mixer and we are using the road caster i'm sure there are other mixers out there but super easy setup and has usb output which if we potentially do do some sort of live stream ever for this yeah dude i'm 12 uh then we have a chance of plugging it into a live stream as well as

recording to our sd card or straight into... You can even do... What's awesome about the USB is you can plug it into a computer and record straight into Audacity, which is something we're also... No, Audition. Audition, yeah. Adobe Audition is something where I've been diving into right now,

trying to help make this audio sound better. Nice. How about this what other podcasts have you been into recently uh i want to ask you that because i don't have a whole ton i have i don't have too many either i recently got into podcasts before but uh reply all i think is both of our number ones yeah is that right it's definitely both of our number ones so shout out to replyly All. I listen to The Verge Cast. That's one of my tech podcasts. Recode Decode by Kara Swisher.

Couples Therapy by Casey Neistat. Why'd You Push That Button? Also by The Verge. Tyler Stallman's podcast, which is just called The Stallman Podcast. And Off The Pill is Ryan Higa's podcast, another YouTuber.

Cool. Yeah, I think I listen to more of the super popular ones. So all the serial seasons are incredible. There's another one called S-Town. One of my favorite podcasts I've ever listened to. It's like 10 episodes long. All of these are story-based,

so they don't keep going like Verge cast and everything. But those are serial and S-Town have probably been my two favorite. I will be on my way home and I'll park in my driveway and just keep it playing. I'll hit the next episode. That's a mark of a good podcast right there. Oh, Jeff Gordon.

Shout out to Jeff. Asks, if you weren't a YouTuber or playing Ultimate, what career would you be doing? I feel like I've gotten this question before and my answer is always like, it would be something in tech. I went to school for business and technology. So, you know, probably some marketing job in New York City or something like that.

Standard path. What about you? I'm a little older than Marques. So I've had a couple jobs coming out of school. I worked in a restaurant for a while. I've worked in the food industry for a while. That's kind of a space that a lot of people work in growing up and then after that I was doing IT at a small logistics company for a couple probably about two years super super basic level IT to be totally honest as much as that's into tech and I enjoyed working at that specific place like working with end users is the worst that's what i hear it's so bad i mean i i enjoy that i have some funny stories about people still using like aol in 2017 but it's pretty brutal uh so yeah i actually went to school for film wound up being a little artsier than i like there's not that there's

anything wrong with being artsy but i've always liked the technical aspect of film so this wound up being perfect but uh i think if something i'm good at is probably like marketing and social media stuff i'd probably do something in social media marketing got it just just for the record i have had other jobs i don't know if this is a commonly known thing i worked at the liberty science center for a year and I was a caddy At so i've worked in the service industry. I was a caddy for two summers And that's one of the best jobs i've ever had I think everyone should work in the service industry at some point and I actually think that's good advice. Yeah for sure I've i'm sure a lot of people say that but it's just first of all a great way to understand

Speaking with people and then second of all a great way to understand speaking with people. And then second of all, a great way to test your patience, because some people are miserable and patience is key to not losing your mind every day. So go work in the service industry for a little bit. Okay. So Brayden Brayden, one nine nine, whose profile picture is a great screenshot from the office asked if I message was on Android, do you think a large majority of iPhone users would switch? So many thoughts on this. Okay, number one, if iMessage was on Android, that's never happening. I'm accepting it, it's never happening.

So that's number one. If it was on Android, do you think a majority of iPhone users would switch? No, there's still a ton of other walls in that ecosystem. That's one of the bigger walls that people really don't want to climb, but there other things there's the apple card for example um there's other apple services uh they're really proud of their services so i don't think they would and number three i don't know if you've seen this this is actually super recent as of today

samsung making a bunch of gifs in jiffy i think is what it's called that you're supposed to use to reply to people who say that blue messages are better than green and they're like animations of green caterpillars eating blue caterpillars. Deal with it in green text. Sounds like really knows how to bring the cringe. Absolutely cringey. It's horrible.

I read through that today. It was an article on The Verge. We'll put it in the show notes. It's horrible. It's so bad. It's just really cringy. Anyway. Actually, I want to go back to something you mentioned there. Did you say Jifs? Jiffy?

Jif? Oh. I'm a Jif. I like Jif. Jif is my way of saying it. I believe the guy came out with how it's pronounced, but I will never accept it if it's not what I think. I don't remember.

Oh, you don't remember? I'm just saying if it's proven that I'm wrong, I denounce that. I think I've said it both ways but i'm pretty sure i would say jif jif yeah all right um what's the worst piece of text so far in 2019 somebody replied with my answer actually really royal flex pie royal flex by worst piece of tech and that's just recency bias i just remember like really having nothing that great to say about it. Yeah. I feel like you kind of have to give it a little credit for attempting to.

Oh, there was an attempt. There was an attempt. That's for sure. Attempting to bring new technology out. But the attempt was poor. If I had to pick worst piece of tech I've seen this year, I'm like literally looking around the room. It probably isn't still in here yeah we throw bad tech out pretty quickly in the garbage yeah um wow is it good that i can't think of something that's a good sign i mean there's there's not too much really truly bad

tech i mean if you think about it the royal flex pie is a phone that folds in half like that's pretty amazing yeah but yeah as far as like actually bad pieces of tech we don't really see too much of that it's tough i mean like i almost want to say something that just i mean air power is terrible because it never came out that's where and then bixby speaker is terrible because we haven't heard about it anyways when is that gonna come out bixby speaker or tesla roadster which is coming out first i think bixby speaker comes out first oh yeah you're probably right you're probably right i think so and then uh bixby speaker comes out first. Oh yeah. You're probably right. You're probably right. I think so. And then a Bixby speaker or what was that other? I also love how it's not called Bixby speaker,

but I'm calling it Bixby speaker. That's what I'm calling it. I don't ever know it. I'm locking it in Bixby speaker, Bixby speaker first or Samsung galaxy fold first, which comes out first. I'm going to say fold. So fold then. Fold's supposed to come out in September, right? Supposed to in a month, but Bixby then fold supposed to come out in september right supposed

to in a month but big speaker was supposed to come out in summer how about this what's the inspiration or meaning behind the mkbhd logo the logo is uh very very og to the channel i mean i really just wanted this was back in a time actually where people didn't use their faces as their avatars on youtube tech channels a big shout out to vv comp help vv super og youtuber jerry he doesn't make videos anymore but he had like an infamous infamous tutorial on how to make a profile avatar using gimpP. And it was just like a super simple, like gradient in a circle to a tutorial. But back in the day,

like he was one of those big tech YouTubers and no one used their face. Everyone had an avatar and I wanted my own like logo or avatar that just felt professional to have. And so I worked with an artist on one. I don't even remember what year, I'm gonna say like 2010, 2011. And some people say it looks like a bow tie. So I'll go with that, but it's just pretty clean overall cool

so it's basically a clean logo that I think people underestimate how How important it is to have a good logo for something i'll tell you right now just like a name of a child It is very very difficult to come up with a truly unique logo That doesn't have some sort of brother in the world that looks just like it. And I think that's one of the rare examples. Yeah, it was really interesting. We were actually talking with Cotton Bureau when we, a couple months into working with them about potentially working with other people and

a lot of other channels seem to be not going into the merch game because i hate that i said merch game out loud the merch game a little too paul brother saying that but you know like it's hard to release merchandise when you don't have a logo yeah like we have a lot of tech friends that could probably sell a lot of stuff and make some really awesome creations but they don't have a logo so it's not not that a logo is the only thing you can put on a shirt, but it's one of those core basic things. Yeah, it's one of those things where I'm walking down. You recognize it, you see it. Exactly, like when we go to CES

and we see someone with our logo on it, it's like, oh, that's awesome. What's up, dude? Instant notification, yeah. Maybe one more? Yeah, I'm going to ask one of my own questions. Okay. Actually.

Shoot, you're asking me a question? I'm asking Marques a question. Okay. This is not on our Twitter. This is what I've been thinking of. What is one thing you do with technology that would really piss off a lot of tech fans? Oh, like a sacrilegious. Yeah, like not having a passcode on your phone or your password being 000 like Kanye.

Oh, wow. What's something I do with tech that's probably sacrilegious? not having a passcode on your phone or your password being 000 like Kanye. Oh, wow. What's something I do with tech that's probably sacrilegious? I know there's probably good stuff. I'm sure it's hard to think about because it's just second nature to you. The reason people do things that are not normal is usually because it's just become a habit. Yeah. You know what I think one of mine is that I just looked over my shoulder at the Mac is my window management on my Mac.

I never full screen anything ever. Final cut is the only thing I think that I use that's full screen. Everything else is windowed and with space in between it. I don't use any window management. I know a lot of people have plugins to like do half the monitor for one app, half for the other. Windows does it natively. You can get plugins for Mac OS.

I've never even gotten close to doing any of that. I just do my own thing. You do use Spaces though, right? I use Spaces, yeah. Well, that's just because I miss dual monitors so much. As soon as I get my dual monitors, as soon as I get my dual Pro Display XDRs, small flex there, I'm so excited to have dual monitors again. Yeah, super ready for that so

poor window management that's nowhere near as bad as i thought what do you have like a good answer for yourself no it's well actually my one answer probably would be i didn't use a lock screen on my phone for a long time um actually i believe we just added something in our emails that you had in order to have our emails on the phone we had to add a lock screen and that's that's why i added it actually it's been a total pain in the neck because i started climbing and my fingers get destroyed so my fingerprint never works i always just have to wait i didn't okay i didn't say that again because i didn't realize that like you climb enough where you'll literally damage your fingerprint to the point where you can't unlock your phone anymore so it's not so much that i climb enough it's probably that I don't climb enough that

my hands having gotten good calluses on them so there's they're so soft that when I go climbing for two or three hours just between chalking up and holds that have gritty textures to them my hands are ripping apart essentially I definitely can't right after my fingerprint will never work on my phone. That's crazy. And even up to now, you can see. They're not great now, and I haven't climbed for a few days. So yeah, I'm pretty much entering my passcode in all the time.

I'm excited for if I do go Pixel 4, I'll have Face ID. But that's a very niche. We shall see. Not many people have that issue. Yeah. All right. Well, this has been our last podcast of August. Next one will be two Fridays from now in September. So on the subject of disappearing fingerprints, this is the end of the episode. Thank you again for listening. Again, if you have feedback or if you have any other questions, you just want to talk waveform, hit us up WVFRM on Twitter. We'll probably,

we'll see that stuff and we'll read it. Once again, we're your hosts. That's Marques Brownlee. I'm Andrew Manganielli. Waveform is produced in partnership with Studio 71. And that cool new intro and outro music you're hearing is by Cameron Barlow.