We Are Chelsea - We Are Chelsea LIVE! With Jill Scott and Karen Carney

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

This is We are Chelsea, the official podcast of Chelsea Women, brought to you in association with Škoda, the official car partner of Chelsea Women and proud supporters of women's sport. www.skoda.co.uk Caz De Moraes brings you our second live show as she's joined on stage by former England team-mates and best friends Jill Scott and Karen Carney. They answer all the important questions like who would be a better MOTD presenter? What's Kaz's nickname? And can vegans eat pigs? To watch the full episode on YouTube, click here: https://www.youtube.com/@chelseafc/videos Send us your questions to [e-mail] #WeAreChelsea Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to We Are Chelsea Live. We are Under the Bridge. I'm so excited, second season, second live podcast show. This is, of course, brought to you in association with Skoda. A big, massive round applause for Skoda because they make this happen. Yeah, thank you, Skoda. This podcast is in association with them and they are proud supporters of women. sport. And I'm not going to delay this any longer. I'm going to bring out my two

wonderful guests. I'm actually going to stand up for this. She used to be a blue. She is, of course, Kaz Kani. Hello. Hello. Yeah, wherever you want to sit. Wherever you want to sit. And my next guest used to play for City. She's probably now, known as Queen of the Jungle, it is Jill Scott. Hello, hello, hello. Hello. Welcome to We are, Chelsea.

I feel a bit unsafe for you. Don't kill us. I know I'm ex-Manchester City, but I'm Kazza's friend. So she's okay, isn't she? Although I think I've seen some city supporters in here. Yes, there they are. There they are. They're hiding at the back.

It's a safe space, guys. It's a safe space. It's a safe space. Now, I don't know if you two have been listening to the podcast, but we've done so many episodes on friendships, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it, which is why we've brought you two on because you're good friends, aren't you?

Have we been loving the friendship teammate podcasts? It's been good, hasn't it? That wasn't very enthusiastic. I know. Have we? I'm looking here at the front. Yeah, have you enjoyed it? That's better.

I'm like, should we just split them up and go back to solo? It's been so funny. Now, I want to talk about you two. This is where I'm nervous, because I think I'm on the back foot here, because you've sent some stuff in and I didn't know about this. Yeah, well, I'm so well prepared. I wanted this Chelsea podcast to be, the best of a thing. You know what?

You know what? You know what? Caz did nor prep. So that is a lie because you. because she said to me the other day, Kaz, what's the brief? Can I have it? I sent it and then she stitched me up

and changed it all. That's a proper friend right there, right? I thought it would make it interesting. There we go. Great. Can't wait. Well, I want to know how you guys first met and what was your impression of each other

when you did me. Oh, see, I remember Jill very clearly not because you were way taller than me, but you were. I still am, just so. Yeah, that is really true. There's more Chelsea than City, so I feel safe. but yeah

Jill played on the right wing when I first met you at England I think we were 14 and we went my first moment of you is when we went to France Claire Fontaine and you were

I said you met of 14 yeah I've known Jill since 14 yeah and you know what no matter what anyone sees or knows about Jill from the jungle hands down

she's literally what he sees what you get the nicest person you'll ever meet and she'll do anything loyal as the day comes to her. I'm not surprised she's won all the accolades she has. And, you know, if you were going to go to war with anyone,

it would be with this one. So, you know, at 14, she hasn't changed. And that's why she's so successful. So, yeah, and she's one of, in my head, she might not say the same, but she's one of my besties. So I'm lucky to have her. Sounds a bit weird. I've got a bit emotional.

I know. I feel like I'm going to go out of 14. I'm like, oh, you haven't changed? You're going to hammer me now. Yeah. Have you noticed that there was not one thing about she was a great football. baller. She's loyal.

And she was in the jungle. She's tall. She went to the jungle. Thanks, Kaz. But you know what? I'll flip this. Kaz is all of them things as well. But when I went away with England

when I was 14, under 16s, I think I soon realized I was doing all right in the northeast, but as soon as it got opened up to the rest of the country, I was suddenly with superstars like Kaz. And Kaz was a superstar. Made your England debut.

How old were you? 17. 17. I went along to the Eddie had stadium. As a fan, I was the same age, obviously not in the England set up, seeing Kaz score in a Euros, the winner, three two against Finland, took our football boot off, give it to the crowd, then had to ask for her back because she only had one pair of football boots. And they didn't give it me back, you know? Did they not? Nah. That's why you were rubbish for

the next one. So true. I'm joking. But no, Kaz was an absolute superstar. And for me, it was good because I wasn't ready yet. I didn't get selected again until I was 18. and I always say for kind of the next generation coming through it might just not be your time and I think at that point you decide do I keep working hard or do I just give up so players like Kaz motivated me to be better and it was great for me playing with Kaz

for so many England games because I'd win the ball back and then just give it to her and she'd score a goal or do something. So I didn't defend did I? No, she did all that running but yeah she did all the skill and the goals so it was a good team work.

Do you know what Millie mentioned last season about timing because she said that Chelsea came and made an offer and she said no first of all because she was like the timing was wrong blah blah blah I just feel like layman like me would never we would just go no the timing's right

the timing's right we want it now we want it now right that's what we do that's probably why I think the first three times I played against Millie two of them I ended up in hospital Everton versus Doncaster Bells I think one I might have had concussion

I definitely had concussion and yeah the second was blow to the ribs but such a competitive player and such a great person as well so you always want you say about going to war i wouldn't take tall skinny jill i'd take millie brine very good fair point actually yeah very true so back to you two when you were 18 i'm guessing you were at loughbara uni together yeah oh no and what have you sent in and what was your relationship like at loughbara did you live close to each other.

I don't think we spoke, did we? We didn't speak. As much as I said, I knew Jill at 14, we didn't really, can I be honest? I just used to see, I look out my window

and Jill, you'd be going off getting coffee. And it's obviously done you so well now. I don't know, I don't know, we didn't really connect. Maybe, I don't know, I was quiet and went to uni

and did your work? It did my work, yeah. What did you do, Jill then? No, it is a bit of a regret of mine. They say have no regrets, but Kaz was working hard. Well, only, she stayed in this room. There was a doign between us. I can't remember who it was.

And then I was with Carly Telford in the room up from there. But we didn't, I think we were kind of different things. So Kaz was working hard. And I think we were probably going out a little bit, actually, me and Carly. But I'll tell you, the day, I'll tell you quickly, that kind of changed everything. We were we in the Euros, which was 2000 and, what, yeah, 13. 2013 in Sweden and basically it was so harsh

it was like we're going into a game I think it might have been the quarterfinals maybe and three of us just got took into a room and the manager was just like yeah you're all dropped for the next game and that was it and I remember being absolutely devastated obviously you're weird and you rose

you played the first three games and I came out and it was one of them moments where I like walked out the room and I could just feel myself crying and I was like Jill don't cry it's just football, it's just football. And the first person I bumped into was Kaz. And you were so good in that moment.

She was just like, Jill, it's all right. She was playing, so she should have been focusing on herself. And she just give us probably five minutes of our time just made us feel so good. And I think from that moment was when we became good friends. And that's why I always say in teams always be there for each other because it can be one moment that kind of gives you a friendship for life. So that was a moment where I was like, yeah, she's going to be my mate.

So it took about 10 years, but we got there. You guys are going to make me really emotional. I'm going to tear up in this. You've already made me like almost there. And you, the tears are coming. They're coming. It'll get funnier. It's a podcast deal.

Come on. Earn your money here. Come on. No, I love it. I was going to ask about, is there a bar named after you at Loughborough? Oh, yeah. You know what? We're the worst people for a bar as well.

We have got a bar in Loughborough named after us, Karni and Scots. and um what's it called karnie scots karnie and scots yeah why's you on him first well i was going to say that maybe it's alphabetical yeah it must be we'll tell ourselves that um but yeah so but the thing was when we went to the opening they were like oh do you want anything and i was like i'll have a cup of tea

and you what were you having yeah i think i was driving so i had a cup of tea so we literally had like it was like our bar and they were like have whatever you want like we you could have got absolutely smashed and we're like the wrong crowd i was like yeah I'll have a cup of tea. You were like, oh, I'm driving. I'll have a cup of tea as well. And they were like...

Yeah. But it's such a nice bar, isn't it? Unbelievable. I know. I couldn't... I thought it was going to be, you know, just like in the corner, like one kind of pull and pint,

like maybe a rubbish coffee machine. Like, it's so nice, so nice. But Kaz did bring her mom, didn't she? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I don't know what I said to you. So we got behind the bar.

We started working, like, pulling pints and pulling everything. Did you actually? You got behind... there's a podcast it was just pints it's just pints promise i was there yeah um but yeah so but the guy went karen can you stop and i was like he's like you're terrible and you're wasting all the money of the beer so like i got kicked off i don't know it was wasting all their their stuff but yeah i think like the head of the beer's meant to be about this much and yours was like three quarters of the glass i think so yeah yeah but it was a good day wasn't it yeah it was good and i think we're going to

a little bit of a reunion. So if you actually think back to who went to Loughbury, you had Carly Telford, Steph Horton. Chauvonne Chamberlain did about seven degrees. She rinsed that system, didn't she? She did. She was still going to uni at like 28, 29. Who else?

Did you beat her in a 1% club the other day? Yeah, I did. It did. Degrees don't bore you that, though, did I? I didn't want to mention it. Like, anybody watch a 1% club? It's good, isn't it? It's good.

Yeah. Caz couldn't work out. There was an Anagram. wasn't there I probably shouldn't be seeing this because it's coming out for charity yeah you know what

when you're at you're at home right and I proper play the 1% club got the app and everything I'm like yeah I'm confident in this and get there and then like everyone's around you and like it comes up on the screen and I'm like I can't even read what it says

and you know like the pressure and you know the like music it's Papa like and I'm like this yeah yeah yeah and it was like simple like an A and B it was so obvious and I can I swear

I'd proper shit myself And I went And you know what I did try and look at Ian's I thought I'll have a quick look He was like this You know at school We got those people

That cover their homework And they're so annoying Who was it Ian Sterling? Yeah So I went with that And I got it wrong So I was out I was devastated

And then like Lee MacCombs to Didn't you see There was like four S's In Lionel Messi or something No I don't know It was definitely that I think I was out Before that one

She's like S S S S S The pressure gets to you, honestly. Yeah. Well, in it... Not to Jill, though. Well, some people can do it. Pressure's not a thing.

You know, you know, call under pressure becomes diamonds. There you go. Look at that. What a knob. That's going to be the podcast headline. Jill Scott. I just went more a knob. Good.

I still can't figure it out, but hey-ho. What? We'll explain later. All right. So I didn't make it. Right. Let's head to it. to the game i want to do a friendship game with you so i want i'm going to ask you questions

and i want you to tell me you can just shout out who like i'll ask you a question like i don't know i'll use an example who likes sunsets most and then you'll just shout out which one of you and the audience you can jump in as well so i'll ask the question you shout out who you think but although this one's an obvious one because kaz answered it who drinks the most coffee Jill. Jill. Do you want to put a plug out? Yeah.

Box-to-box coffee shop if you ever in Manchester. Even though you'll pour you a good flat light. Who's better on a night out? Yeah, Cass. My guy, yeah. You know what? Can I just say it quickly?

Sorry, I keep telling the stories. We went to Marlbair together. Oh, if we were going to say a different story? We want to hear that one. She was home every night, having a cup of, tea probably about 10 o'clock and I was my bear me Millie bright Laura Bassett you were there yeah I was definitely there so me Millie Carly we were actually partying at the time she was like back home cup of tea but then when we were in the Olympics 2012 I was coming out now got knocked

out in the quarter final obviously we were very sad but we stayed in the village for like a week after and didn't you do like seven eight nights in a row with yanks every single night you know what stays on tours usually meant to stay on tour jill no but you did you actually did you know what i think carly came into the room and i don't even know about this is possible she's like wow your room stinks of vodka yeah i'm like vodka doesn't smell yeah i was gonna say vodka doesn't smell and i was like wow we're that bad but i think when you get knocked out at the Olympics usually the first people that go with the swimmers so you kind of like latch onto the swimmers and you go right where are the swimmers going and then you but it got to the point was the whole team was there and you think

you know, you'd go to Gio, where you go and where you're going. And after like five nights, they're like, no, it's Kaz and Yanks. Like, they're the people to go to to find out where the parties are. And I was like, oh, you've underestimated us for like 10 years. Proper party and she had all these freebies. I kept seeing her. There was a McDonald's, which was all free, like in the village, in the village, which is brilliant. And you and Yanks were there, I think, every single morning.

She having like a Mackey's breakfast. So the life of an athlete, a professional athlete. That's why I never got gold. Did you come back and play for Chelsea then, no. Birmingham? Yeah, I don't know. We'll see at Birmingham. It's also turned me vegan now as well.

Oh, yeah. Don't stitch me McDonald's days up. Oh, yeah, sorry. Are you vegan now? Yeah. Is it hard being vegan? She's like, yes, I'm a vegan who eats meat sometimes at Christmas, maybe. Flexy.

Am I what, sorry? Is it hard to be vegan? Because you have to check everything, don't you? No, it's all right, once you know. You're right, yeah. What do you miss the most, though? cheese. Do you not have cheese?

No. God, how do you live? Cheese is like life? Did you think vegans could have cheese? I'm not, I don't really know that much of. Can I eat fish just testing, you know? Can you eat fish? Yeah.

Vegan. Oh, see, they're split people? No, no. No, yeah, you're right. So what do you actually eat? You can't have burgers, sausages, cod, salmon. No, you can have vegan sausages. They're all right, then.

Oh, okay. But what are they? the made out of plants this is who would have thought with this podcast would go this way anyway

is anyone else vegan in here see cars I think it was just a bit of a fad and now it's gone out the window here we go yeah get her a burger

yeah sorry you were in the middle of a game we've gone through one quick fire question is meant to quick fire oh you too who is loudest on the pitch

I would say so but you had a temper yeah I'd switch yeah you did have a temper I was even one or the other but more consistently I'd say Jill was more vocal very positive do you know up into the German I've got that tattoo I've still got the tattoo yeah give the crowd what they want

no I'm joking I don't think I can take my t-shirt out but yeah I did get a bit aggressive in that moment Do you know what? When I was watching it, I was like, oh my God, like I've never seen you like, since I've known since I was 14. I've never seen you like that hit you. And I was like, we're going to win this. Even Jill's gone.

Can I just say, though, the camera angle did not do me a good favor. You've been hoping with Roy too much you have. She had my leg like trapped in between hers and you know when you can't get up. So I was getting more and more annoyed. And then I don't even know where their words like came from. because I don't even swear. I actually don't swear. That is very true because you don't.

You're very nice. I know. I know. But that's what you won't go, Jim. Well, I don't think it was just down to me going, F off you. I think it was down to the girls putting in a good performance. Do you know what Kaz's nickname is off the pitch?

No, tell us. Mute. Because she used to sit at the back of the bus and you just wouldn't hear from her. Like the back of the bus is usually like the loud people having a laugh and we'd be like half an hour in are you all right car she'd be like yeah and she'd just be sat in the corner like listening to our music taking up a seat do you know how many people tried to get me out of that seat because I apparently offered nothing yeah it's true it was one of them they're like

she doesn't even bring to the back of the bus and then I'm like I've been here since I was like 17 so I'm staying here until I'm kicked out you didn't add any value to the banter you just sat there. No, but the thing was, how can you add when you've got the people at the back of the bus, like you guys, you couldn't even get an edge word in? But you could have to give your seat up and put someone else in. He didn't have to sit there. Haven't you got a WhatsApp group called Back of the Bus? Yeah, but it's only me, Kaz and love Basset. It's like three of us. Yeah. And I think it's just Bass putting pictures of the kids in, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so Kaz doesn't offer anything in the WhatsApp chat. She doesn't reply. She doesn't reply.

Why? No. Why? Because I know that through appearances, I'll just bump into Jill, so I might as well just know that I'm seeing her, and then I'll just speak to her there. So you just leave her on grey tics, blue tics. We spoke to Laura, who's in the back of the bus group,

I spoke to the other day. She was like, if you and Jill actually tempted to connect like me, it would never work. So our agents blatantly play us off now. So I get a message saying, Jill's doing this appearance, and I'll go, oh, Jill's going, all right, then I'll do it. And then they'll go to Jill.

Caz is doing it. And then you'll go, okay, and then we know we're meeting, so we don't, like, we've not communicated, and then we just rock up. And then we're like, hey, and then we guys separate ways. They told me, Kaz had a podcast. That's what I thought I was doing today. Well, I mean, you're on, that proves that you didn't read the brief from the beginning of the show. See, I told you. They said you want Kaz's podcast. And I was like, oh, Kaz's got a podcast.

And then I seen a clip. Different Kaz. Yeah. Not as fun. Not as fun as this Kaz. Caz with a K. Cas with a C. No, I get it now. You'd be better at the back of the bus.

I would be, Jill Can we be friends? Yeah, can you add me to the WhatsApp chat? Yes. I'll bring value. She'll kick me out, watch. Good job. Caz with the sea, takes Caz with a K's spot.

Yes, you're in. Okay, this is a question for the audience before I ask you guys. Who's got the most red cards? I only got two. Can I just actually? How many did you get? My whole career, two. It's just level, then.

Are you two? Yeah. You only got two, so it's a draw. Look, look how shocked she was as well. You only got two. Yeah. No, but can I just say because I seen Rebecca Welsh the other day

and she was the only referee to send me off twice. And this is no word of a lie, I'm going to be honest. Community Shield, obviously, you guys weren't there because it was in COVID. Can you remember City v. Chelsea

and you guys won. and G was about to take a shot on the edge of the box and you know one then where you come from behind but you get a nick on the ball and I was like it's not a file she gives us a yellow card anyway my next one was definitely a yellow because I slid in and my knee trailed in and she said to us you know what

the first one wasn't a yellow card she said it to us the other day we were doing deal or no deal randomly for charity again and then she said yeah the first one wasn't a yellow and I was like so why did you give us a red for the second one? if you knew the first wasn't, so... What did she say?

I'm upset about that. But what did she say? Well, Emma Hayes isn't here, but she was stood over as going off, off, off, off, off. Yeah, because you tackled her golden girl, G. You don't touch G. I know. I think I nearly wiped Emma out as well

because it was right on the side of the pitch, but it wasn't. So Kaz has got to have that one. Mine's actually quite bad, my story. And Emma was the manager at a time. My first one, yeah, two. who thought someone, yeah, definitely should have got sent it off. Street red? Yeah, 100%.

It would have been three reds. It's really bad. I had butted someone as well. Wow. Yeah, you trumped that. The second one, though, I was playing from Chicago and Emma was the manager and we're in this really big stadium like, was that 80,000. There's no one in there though.

Nevertheless, it was a really big game. And Abby Wambach right, does everyone know who Abby Wambach is? Yeah, of course. She's massive, she's bigger than you, ain't she? And I thought she failed me, and I didn't get anything. So in my head, I lost my head.

So I, like, scissered her hand, brown the knees, which is really bizarre for someone so small like me to take on this giant, right? So then I got a straight red, and I realized a consequence of that. But the most embarrassing thing was, I went and stood in the stand, and was like, no one there. I was like, I just want my mom. So, like, I called my mum from the stand in America back home.

I was like, Mom, I've just been sent off. It's the most embarrassing thing ever. And, like, yeah, it was just, oh, I was good at you. I can't believe you scissor kicked Abiwamba. Apparently it's on YouTube. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gemma Davidson used to take the Mick at me all the time.

She's like, how did you, little cars, do that to her? Little cars. Yeah, it's mad. You know what I'm just thinking of when you're telling them there's this, Eniola, Aluco, obviously, Chelsea legend. Oh, the Germany thing. No, can you remember when she was playing in America and she'd just gone over there and she scored a goal

and forgot she was on 4G and did a knee slide and she just stopped and just got like face plants of like you need to watch out on YouTube it's the funniest clip I've ever seen Should we just put all the links up later? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it in a group. I want to hear, yes, ad me.

I want to hear about the headback. Oh, it wasn't even bad. Again, the camera angle did not fear for us. It was a gentle head bat. You've been with Roy too much? That's what he says about all these red cards. No, but, um, The girl was like punching us.

Who was it? It was Jade Bailey, actually. She was the Chelsea player. Jay's so nice as well. Yeah, I know. It wasn't like a head butt like, like this. Okay, it was just like she came towards me and I just went like that. But you know what?

I was captain and she was a, I want to say she was at Arsenal at the time. Would that be right? And we'll get and beat 1-0 and I think as captain, I took too much responsibility. And it just all got a bit emotional. Yeah. And I got sent off. miss three games important games two against chelsea actually so yeah so anyway two but we're there two red cards two red cards in how long that's that's not bad that's not bad 20 years or something

that's not too bad is it no it's not bad by the way we learned from our mistakes by the way so just just to be clear about that as coming in with the T's and C's yeah yeah turns and conditions yeah we learned from our mistakes and we didn't repeat them again yeah exactly yeah because his mom is always on the end of the phone if anyone needs a phone bill was massive by the way talking of your mum oh no who is her favourite out of you too

Jill 100% it makes no like 100% 100% like yeah because my mum doesn't you know I live in London

my mum lives in Birmingham so I actually don't see a lot of my mum anyway and then when we did the appearance at the pub I brought my mum and it was like oh I get to hang out of mum and you know it's one of them

where like you go and say if I was there you're thinking oh my mum's come and hug me and she went to Jill we're at the bar for ages and then it was about 45 minutes I was like she'll go and find cars she was like nah it's all right no proper loves Jill so yeah I love her though she's lovely she is lovely right the next one last one actually I should say who's got the best fashion sense oh thanks you've killed me there wow thank you yeah you do look great today

No, I think you look good today. Yeah, thanks. You've both gone with the same color top and bottom today. Yeah. Brown and brown. Yeah, but Shelley's always on point. And to be fair, Shelly, this is really embarrassing, but Shelley does help dressers because my fashion sense is terrible.

So if it was just me, I would say Kaz, but because I get a little bit of help, I think we're even. Okay? Even. Kaz is fist pumping and agreeing, but she's like, I don't think I agree. She's don't want to offend Shelley because she's done a great job. Who dresses you for the punditry? Me?

No. You've got a stylist. Yeah. I mean, I obviously, I'm putting pictures on and she's like, at Zara, at Reese, at Marks and Spencers. You do at, you've got your MNS deal? No, you do at clothing brands. No, I don't.

I'm sure you do. I'll find that as well. I'll post it later on my Instagram. Maybe that's an opening for clothing brands to start getting involved with both of you. Maybe. Where's this from? Zara. Yeah, Zava's good.

This is Zara as well. From Rees. Sarah. Can you? Zara's now going to get in touch with both of you. I just shout out to Paul though. He does style me. So thanks Paul.

Yeah. I love that. I was like, no. I do have a stylist, but I'll shut him off. But this was by me today, not by Paul. Okay. This is by you, not by Paul. Can you post a picture and put by me, not by Paul?

I will. But I did sense check it with him. I was like, oh, you're proud because I was like horrendous dress sense. I think we both. work yeah shocking if he did like i think so yeah i think a lot of my stuff's marks and spencers now i like their clothing range you got to deal with them check it out you have got to deal with them yeah 100% you've got to deal with next week next week they unveiled the new face of marks and spencers and it's chill i might do it no i might do a little bit for the food range which i'm so excited about

for christmas oh we're going to get in trouble this podcast always ends up in it's not just any food. It's not. It's Eminest food. There we go. You should do the voiceover. Yes, I should. Yes, you should. Talk to your people. Yes, I will. I will. You can be my agent for voiceovers. I'm with them, Percy, pig next week. I'll tell them. I could be the voice of Percy. Are you actually doing one with a like dressed up pig? No, we did it last week. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's cool, isn't it? Jill. They're vegan, you know. Well, pigs. Percy pigs.

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Is it about the jungle? I've got them in your ears. No, I'll talk about that forever but I've got to ask you about the jungle because lots of people ask about the jungle and they want to know. How was the experience and secretly, be honest with us do you actually eat when the camera's are off?

No, you actually don't. Honestly, if you watch it, I think I lost about just under two stone in three weeks and obviously Nothing to lose, have you? Yeah, I know, honestly. My mom can't watch it because she could just see

like how skinny I looked but yeah, you only get about 900 calories and it's all rice and beans. So you don't have any kind of nutritional shake or something? No, you don't. Honestly, hand on heart and then it would go and you'd be doing this

not the actual trials but you know like the fun trials that you do with someone else it might be like find the letters in the water and spell stuff out and that you'd be doing that for hours and you'd literally, you might get to the end and you wouldn't win the treat

but if you did you'd come back to camp they'd be like 12 of you and you'd have like six jelly babies and you'd have to half a jelly baby that would be your treat or like half a custard cream and you could feel because you hadn't had sugar for so long

my skin and everything felt so good but you could feel the sugar like going to your body it was weird what was those like drinks things like oh god how was your stomach if you're not eating and you're not like having all that how was you yeah it was horrible so you only had like rice and beans and then I went and did the drink and challenged in none

it was like goats testicles crushed spiders like fish eyes and everything so if you think you haven't eaten like anything and then you drink all these drinks let's just say the rest of that day I might have been in the dundee a little bit do you think has would be good on I'm a Sleb? Yeah, I do actually.

Would you do it? Gads looked at me with a death stare. I can't eat any of that stuff. Yeah, she's vegan. Oh, yeah. What would a vegan? I'm a celebrity look like. A vegan I'm a celebrity.

Like, they're just pet dogs. Yeah, just, yeah, leaves and twigs. No, no, because, no. I don't think you're, we'll leave the funniness to you. No, but you find out there's like, you're sat there. Because if you don't go out for a trial, you're awake for probably like 16 hours. And there's just obviously a fire. and you're just sitting there

like boredom is like a big thing you do get bored but did it like I know that this sounds a bit mad but did it not resemble kind of being with a team on camp well not really I wasn't like sat there thinking

I'm sort of bored sometimes in a hotel like you travel you're away like go through okay you do your pitch session then you're in the hotel that night but you still have like

even things like not having your phone or anything so you're in there for you though not having your phone or yeah I think it was good mentally but you're in there for three weeks but for 10 days before that you're in complete isolation on your own

no phone, no computer 10 days before? Yeah, just by yourself I think it was about nine days I think so you're in a villa which is nice but just no TV, nothing and there'd just be a knock on your door once a day and they'd take you for a walk like a dog

and then I remember for the first three days I was like nobody's come together's so I was just like stuck there no form of communication Gosh, do it on purpose, like leave you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think it's a bit of like a psychological thing. Like, I think if you keep you used to it. And then when you go in there, you're like, want to give like conversation and everything.

But all the guys were telling us, I think Chris Moyles took a phone in there, snuck a phone into the villa. Mike Tyndall was jumping over the back fence and going to the beach for the day. And I just sat there, like thinking I won't break any rules. Like, it's ITV. Yeah? so can I what did you

what was your first thing you ate when you came out Tim Tams so yeah the chocolate the chocolate yeah but you know white chocolate

white chocolate yeah so I was waking up in the middle of the night just literally eating like boxes of Tim Tams because I'd lost so much weight and then I went into Christmas so I was like

this is brilliant cheese chocolate so yeah MNS Christmas yes M&S Percy Pigs right I am fast running out of time. I'm loving it though, but I'm going to go... I told you this is our catch-up time.

I know, it is your catch-up time. Yeah. I'm going to go to audience questions. I also want to say a big happy birthday to this lady at the front. Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

Remind me of your name. Nicole, of course. Happy birthday, Nicole. Happy birthday. She spent spending it today at the bridge watching the match. That is a good birthday, to be fair. Yeah. That is a very good birthday.

You're always on comfort for birthday. Yeah? I never was. Cheers, mate. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that. Did you? My 30th I had, we had, it was a time where a certain manager really liked a lot of meetings.

It was like five meetings, two training sessions. It was probably the worst 30th birthday ever, to be honest. Who was manager? I can't say, Jill. To be fair, you could work it out, Jill. So I bet, that sounds really bad. I really want to ask this question because I'm very interested in the answer. Thanks a pivoting that.

Who would be a better match of the day presenter out of the two of you? Do you? A better what? Do you? presenter. Match of the day presenter. Oh, Kaz, 100%. No, presenter.

Yeah, you? No. 100%. How good is it? No, honestly, honestly, if you're not, Caz is so good at the punditry and everything. She's so good. You are.

And do you know what? You are. No, but you actually aren't. I think you're downplay yourself, but you really have led the way for females to be able to do that. and I think what people don't see is the amount of work you put in behind the scenes.

I'll be ringing you what you're doing. I'm doing prep. Get off the phone. Like, she's always doing prep. So I think, yeah, I think you're great. And yeah, 100% you could do that gig. Except for this podcast. That's yours.

You're the only cards on this podcast. Oh, Kass. It's all too lovely. Let's get out there and fight. Headbot, everyone. There's no way you had two red cards. Right, I love this question. Who is the most underrated player

that you ever played with? Ooh. Do you know what? Do you know who I'm going to say? Anita Asante. What a player. What a great player. 2009, 2010,

she should have had International Player of the Year. She was so good. She played a full Euros with an ACL, like torn ACL. She was so strong, powerful. So I'm going to go, Anita, actually. And she's also good to present.

and grit at doing talks, I think she was great. Do you know the person that really like straight away goes to my head is G. I know G got like a lot of plaudits, but I don't think she got a lot of plaudits. I didn't think she got enough plaudits on the world level, like ball and door level. Like, honestly, that what she could do with the ball, whether it be it from a deeper position or higher position

and you'd be in training and you'd be like, if you're on G's team, you're like, thank God we're going to win. and if you're not on G's team you'd always lose but I think because G was so like you know quiet and like unassuming and I said to her one day like gee don't you want to be the best player in the world she was like yeah I do and it's like

she should have been she is so like so good but sometimes in football and it's same Lauren Lurrin how's Luron Hemp 28th in the Ballondeur is beyond me she's one of euros went to a world court final she's out of thing she had 26 chances created this season already smashing it like but sometimes the world we don't as

women we don't put ourselves out there enough or we're not giving the applaud it's that they deserve and certainly for g and certainly for loren hemp this year i think g probably is the underrated player i think because i just thought she was mustard do you think it's like it shouldn't be this but it's almost like personality sometimes isn't it if you're not like out there doing all this stuff because i totally agree with what you're saying and as opposition we never under my estimated G as soon as there was a free kick I'm like God this is going top corner

but sometimes I do think like when you speak about hemp bone people like that sometimes it's like Mekira Walsh sometimes I think she's underrated as well great player so yeah it shouldn't be like that

if the players are fantastic on the pitch they should be getting the plaudits they deserve I think there is something in the woman and not wanting to come across as arrogant and not wanting to come across but I also think it's how women are promoted very differently very differently

and I think that's something I'm you know keen to explore for sure because I just think like again a lot I'm like there's so many players that are and that's not to be mean on people who have had the applaud it

I just think it's just women in general I think we could be marketed and promoted very better and differently because we're super yeah we are that's true yeah I love that for president I love it

Cas wants to change the world, don't you? Every time she sees a problem, I'm going to explore that. I'll be a 10 Downing Street tomorrow. Well, unfortunately, that is all we've got time for. I've absolutely loved having you guys on the podcast. I know, thank you. This is a great podcast, by the way. You're going to add me to the WhatsApp group.

Yeah. It's official. It's on there. I'm not admin, I don't think, so it's on it. Tease and scenes with that one. Tease and scenes. I shouldn't have told her that. She'll just beat me out now.

Yeah, she's getting booted up. Right. Well, thank you to you, the audience, for watching. You've been fantastic, massive round of applause. Thank you to our two brilliant guests, ladies and gentlemen, Jill Scott and Kaz Kani. And of course, thank you to Skoda, who are the official car partner of Chelsea Women, and of course they are proud supporters of women's sport. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you.