We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle - 217. Start a Daily Delight Practice with Abby, Glennon & Amanda!
Episode Date: June 8, 2023Glennon’s hilarious misunderstanding with a TSA agent she’ll remember 'til she dies; Amma’s delightful response when Abby rushed onto the soccer field; and the delight Amanda experienced the day... she switched it all up by not freaking out. Today’s episode was inspired by our conversation with Ross Gay – if you missed it, check out: Episode 216 How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay.
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Hello, loves, welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. I think that you are going to find today's show a delight. And that is because your little team here of Amanda, Abby, and me decided that we're always trying to find ways to make life a little easier, a little better, a little juicier, a little more beautiful. And we thought, well, after last episode with Rasque,
about the power of delight and joy and gratitude in our lives.
Go listen to it if you have not.
We decided we could keep working hard to add beautiful things to our life,
or we could just notice more the beauty that is already in our lives.
We could just pay closer or different kind of attention to the,
the things in our lives that cause us spontaneous delight.
We did that, y'all.
We have done the homework.
We have concentrated day in and day out for the last several days to day in and day out for three consecutive.
Well, it was hard.
It's fucking hard.
Look for joy.
All right?
I'm so glad it's over.
I'm exhausted.
I'm so glad it's over.
I could get back on my wot-waw train.
Exactly.
No, actually, it's been.
Look, Abby's looking at us like we're nuts because she is delightful.
And she is.
Yes, and she has loved this exercise, right?
Yeah, it's so wonderful.
Yes.
I feel like people in the world are continually putting in our lap that we just have to follow this methodology of joy, go towards delight.
And to me it was just like so fun.
Yeah.
To you it was just like life.
I was just living.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm so excited to talk about these things because I'm joking a little bit.
Actually, I agree.
It's the idea of what you seek you shall find.
Right?
If you are out looking for what to be delighted or what to be grateful for, that is what you see.
And if you're out there looking for things to be pissed off about,
that is what you find. That's right.
Raskay says that the more you study delights, the more the delights there are to study.
Yes.
And that is why I think everyone is out there pushing the whole gratitude journal dogma.
Because it's that the more you study it, the more there is to study.
It's not like it's actually adding different things. It's just the noticing of the things that are already there.
Yes. I don't know if I've told the story before.
if I have just, oh well.
So when one of my kids decided he wanted to get on Instagram.
And so we were like, okay, well, why do you want to get Instagram?
He said he loves taking pictures.
Okay.
Well, that's actually a good reason.
Like, you want to get on there, put your art on there.
That's cool.
But what he noticed and we talked about a lot is that the beauty of being a photographer,
being a writer, being a gratitude noticeer, being a joyous.
seeker is not like the time that you sit down and write in your journal. That's not the benefit of it.
The benefit of it is the rest of the day. Okay. So if you are a photographer and you're out there
looking for beauty to snap, then your morning, noon, night, everything, a walk becomes a search for
beauty. Everything becomes a search for beauty. And so your life changes because of what you're looking
for, not because of the end result. So this is why Pod Squatters, we feel like. We feel like,
like this is an important concept for adding, for having more aliveness, more joy. It costs
nothing. This is maybe why the wellness industry isn't selling it hard because it can't be
sold. It's nothing. Except for the gratitude journals. Right, right. Which by the way,
P.S. I have a journal on the market. It's lovely. I also know that just a piece of person
paperwork. Okay? Just just the voice app piece of paper. That could also be a gratitude journal.
Okay. So can we talk you three about the specific delights that we identified in our lives? I would like
to suggest. But can I interrupt? Yes, of course. I would actually like to go around and figure out
from the three of us how you, your body actually experiences a delight. Like the physical.
or the emotion or the feeling or the reaction.
I want to give the pod squad a vivid, like a vivid picture of like when we tell these stories,
what we would look like.
This is an iconic tripod moment, I believe, because we know if we are Abby's body,
I'm spirit and sister's mind, Abby wants to know how delight is experienced in the body,
which is very cool.
Yeah.
I feel juicy.
Oh.
Okay.
You see? Look, she's so proud of myself.
I know. I know. I came up with a thing that's actually a body thing.
And I feel like I have caught myself in a moment.
Yes. Yeah.
I'm like, you just saw a present that was hiding for you. And you just saw it.
Yes. Okay. So it's a double delight, right? Because, all right, say you see like a dog.
Most of my delays are just dogs. Spoiler alert. Okay. But say you see a dog. Like say, for example, you see a dog that has slippers on. Okay? You feel delight in your body because you're seeing a dog that has slippers. The dog is delightful. But you are also simultaneously delighted about yourself because you are capable of being delighted. You're full of joy that you are not a robot and that you are a precious little thing that's being so
delighted by this other thing, right?
You're a juicy little sucker who didn't miss the opportunity to just revel in a slipper dog.
Yeah.
It's good.
How do you feel, babe?
Well, I have a little bit.
I just thought of this.
You know the famous line from Alice Walker's, the color purple, where she said, I think
it pisses got off when people walk by purple and don't notice it.
I am so weird and superstitious that every time I see something purple, I'm like, noticed.
Got it.
It feels at the same time like a bit of a rising inside of me, like a little bit like
like I'm going up on a roller coaster or something, like a lift.
It feels like a lift.
And then it also feels like a sinking into the truth.
It feels like everything's a distraction except for this one thing.
And then I see it and it's like entering a portal.
In some spiritual traditions, they call it the thin.
places. And it's like the thin place is the place that is right. It's like the veil. It's right
between this material existence that we live in and the other one. And the thin place is where
you can get a little glimpse of the other side. So it feels a little bit lifting in my body and then
sinky spiritually. Wow. That's amazing. You want to know what mine is? Yes. Ooh.
I like your best. Do it again. Do it again for those who were used to have 1400 words.
to answer. It's like ours. Do it again. How does it feel for you, Abby? It just goes,
oh. Yeah. That too. You know, they say if you can say it shorter, you should say it shorter,
and you did. You nailed it, baby. I mean, I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong. I just think that
that's what comes into my whole being. And I know that chemically, I know dopamine, I know all that
stuff, but it just feels like, ooh. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. And also, it reminds me of the,
the life is forever tries because sometimes you can be like,
ah,
I went through this whole day and didn't access any delight and damn it,
I missed it all.
But really when you're talking about that color purple quote,
the rest of the quote is the part that I love because it's,
I think it pisses God off when you walk by the color purple in a field somewhere and
don't notice it.
And then she says back,
what does it do when it pissed off?
Oh, it makes something else.
People think pleasing God is all God.
cares about. But any full living in the world can see it. It's always trying to please us back.
Yeah, I say, yeah. It's always making little surprises and springing them on us when we least expect.
You mean it wants to be loved? Just like the Bible say. Yes, everything wants to be loved.
Okay. Yeah. Forever tries of delights. Just everywhere. It's not like, shame on you for missing that.
It's like, catch you the next round. There's going to be more. It's every damn thing walking around is just standing there.
existing, wanting to be loved.
And when you notice it and get delighted by it, it's the fulfillment of the thing.
It's like, yes.
That's what creates a connection like Ross Gay was saying.
So it's connection.
It's connection.
All right, Sissy Bear, I heard a rumor from you just now that you actually, and you've
never told me this before in the history of our lives together, but that you are so inspired.
by the Roskeh book, the book of delights, that you actually wrote a teeny essayette about a delight in your life and finding this hard to believe.
I am delighted by that.
I'm sweating and I have a red face.
You do.
Because I had just finished the book on this day that this thing happened.
And I came home and I wrote it down on a piece of paper.
It's so delightful.
Can you please read it to us?
It's so cool.
Yes, we might have to cut it because I'm embarrassed about it.
Well, we're not going to cut it.
I mean, unless your delight sucks and then why?
Yeah, if our delight sucks, then it goes in the sucky delight reject pile.
Okay.
This says it says at the top, Friday Daily Delight.
Oh, okay.
And by the way, is there just that one?
Is that it?
Friday Daily Delight.
It was a brief inspiration.
A short gratitude journal, as most of them are.
Yes.
Okay.
My husband out of town and the responsibilities of getting everywhere all at one time, all on me for the four-day sprint, I managed to get myself to the school pickup line to retrieve the children in the hopes of arriving my son to his violin lesson, which is, because we are over-scheduled suburban masochists, scheduled 20 minutes from the dismissal bell situated 20 minutes from the school. But I do it. I get there right on time. To find my kids so famished that, they strongly insist.
they could not possibly wait until after the 30-minute lesson ended to eat.
And so to my delight, I did not freak out.
I pulled into the Dunkin' Donuts, surprising myself with an acquiescence
that would not have acquainted me on a rush day or any other day when I was their age.
Our parents' household priding itself on being as full of love as it was full of puritanical
practicality and efficiency.
We got back in the car, noting that we are now four minutes late as
projected by the GPS.
I then proceed to make up each and every one of those minutes on the drive.
I should be embarrassed to admit, but I'm not that besting the GPS projection by one
or even three minutes is my most fail-safe daily delight.
Yes!
Yes!
The aforementioned, over-scheduled suburban masochist.
Yes!
We pull in triumphantly at precisely the appointed time, only to learn from our sons
incredibly lovely, talented, if communication challenged violin teacher, that there is in fact
no lesson today. And to all of our collective astonishment, I do not freak out. Instead, I take them
to the Italian store around the corner where we pick up spaghetti and meatballs. And at the checkout line,
I notice a tall rectangular red Lazarusini tin, which brought my whole body immediately to my
seven-year-old self in my Aunt Peggy's house. Aunt Peggy, whose home was full of deliciously
frivolous things, like that red tin full of Amaretto cookies, like time to sew me a queen of
heart's Halloween costume, like constant laughter that defied her two divorces, like time to learn to
fly a plane like her father, and pilot all over the nation with the 99ers, her woman's pilot
friends, and to take us up in it so we could see the world from an inspiringly selfish perspective
of a woman who does what she wants. Her life and home so delicious, full of treats and frivolity,
that could not be found in our more stable, but supremely practical home and pantry. And so I told
the lady at the checkout how much I used to love those Italian amaretto cookies at my Aunt Peggy's.
She said, you still love them. So I bought a few, wrapped in parchment paper and turned and squeezed at the
edges like a bow. Later at home, with an unexpected boon of 15 frivolous minutes, minutes that I didn't even
need to steal from the GPS. I sent Aunt Peggy a message about the amaretto cookies, about every
fanciful, delicious treat I could find in her home and her life, and about how the lady at the checkout
had concurred that ants' houses are the best houses and how I agreed and knew that I had the best
of those houses and the best of those ants. And then I ate the amaretto cookies and I still love them.
What fuck with you two in your writing? It was my sincere delight when I saw that
red tin can. I was like, oh my God, Aunt Peggy and her Amaretto cookies and everything else.
There's so much. There's so much. I mean, can we just stop for just a second? And the woman at the
Italian store says you still love them. Somebody in our life needs to remind us that the stuff that we
used to like when we were kids, we probably still like now. And I said it like, I used to love those
when I was seven.
Like, isn't that silly?
She was like, you still love those cookies.
You still love them.
I love that.
And I was like, oh my God, I wonder if I still love those cookies.
And I do, by the way, still love those cookies.
I ate them all.
To what do you owe this uncharacteristic not freaking out,
which led directly to all this delight medication?
I don't know.
I think sometimes when John is out of town, I'm like...
it's a wonder I'm getting through any of this. Godspeed to us all. It's like the standard has lowered or something because it's just me and we're just going to get through it and I'm just doing the best I can.
Yeah. Rather than they're like, we got to be there and that never be late and on to da, da, da, da, da. I don't know.
I totally get that. I'm not sure. Also, it was a beautiful day and I had the top down and I was like, fuck it. It's Friday.
Fuck it.
I mean, it's so amazing how our people around us, we think we have to be so perfect and like on time and all the things.
And what they want more than anything is sometimes for us just to be like, fuck it.
That's what they probably remember is the fuck it moments.
So flipping beautiful red tin cans.
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my delights have to do with misunderstandings with strangers, okay?
Which I have always considered annoying and strange about me, but now I'm reframing as delightful,
okay?
For real.
For real.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you why, because, okay, so last weekend we took the little one to a soccer
tournament. And we had to go on a plane because that is what the soccer requires.
I have thoughts about that. Suburban masochists. Right. Exactly. That's a different podcast.
So we're going through TSA. Now, the TSA line is a lot of things to me. Number one, it's not
my favorite place. Okay. Because I don't like things that are like go very slow, but pay attention
because soon it's going to be vast. You know, that's why the credit card machine buying.
there's me with all the waiting and don't do it and then suddenly do it. And then they give
you your change. You don't know what to do it. The change. The lines behind you and you just want to
throw all your money and run out of the store. The cash register. Yeah. At the cash register.
It feels like that moment, but like there's more at stake. There's people behind you.
Life and death. It's life and death. Yes. I'm like, I guess we're just all pretending that we're not
taking our shoes off and walking on this filthy. There's a lot you just have to not think about.
And then the poor TSA people, I cannot imagine how much shit they deal with day in and day out because it is a cranky making situation, which is decidedly not their fault.
So, you know, it's a powder keg.
And I'm just trying to do my best.
I really am.
I'm trying to just not do anything that's going to make anyone's life's harder in the next few minutes.
All right?
So I start putting my things in all the many bins.
And there's this woman behind, the TSA agent behind.
You know, there's the one that's like telling everybody over and over again to do the same
thing over and over again forever.
It's like a mother of a toddler.
Yes.
Did you brush your teeth?
Did you brush your, you need to brush your teeth.
Yes.
Yes.
So I'm just trying to not cause any problems.
So I'm listening to her.
I'm looking at her, like, trying to make sure that I'm doing it right because it's different all the time.
I'm about ready to walk through the thing.
Oh, for the thing, she calls to me.
She makes eye contact.
She calls to me.
And she goes, what was your last drink?
Okay.
I look at her, process what she's just said.
And I say, back to her.
I don't know exactly.
but I've been sober for 21 years.
It was probably like a Captain Morgan or something back then.
Right, I'm sure it was.
It was probably a Red Bull and vodka.
It's probably what it was.
Or a phronsia.
My last drink was a box of Franzia.
Anyway, she looks at me.
This woman who before looked like maybe she hadn't slept for eight days,
looked like she was having no funny business from anyone.
She looks at me, she looks very confused for a second.
And then she says, I said, what was your last been?
It's all happening very fast, okay?
And I look at her and go, oh, yes, yes, that makes more sense.
And then she looks at me again, she goes, what was your last been?
And then she cracks up.
She breaks.
And this is all happening in five seconds.
She breaks character.
She breaks character.
She turned into her human self.
Yes.
And I'm telling you, she, her eyes sparkled.
Her mouth got so, she cracked up.
She was laughing.
And we didn't have any time to resolve it.
I just moved right along.
I was like, I can't cause any more problem.
I can't explain why I just said that.
When I got to the other side, I was thinking, okay, what I thought was.
was, I know this is ridiculous. This is even worse, but I was thinking I know we're not supposed to bring
liquids. So maybe now they're checking how far back our last drink was because we're not allowed
to have liquid in our body. You better not have an accumulation of 12 ounces of liquid in your
body either. I thought it was going to be like surgery when you go in there like when we're
It's your last meal.
So that's why I was trying to explain.
I'm going to be fine because it's been 20 years.
So, okay.
So I get to the other side.
One of the girls was in front of me.
So she's seen some of it.
She's like, what just happened?
So I explained it to her.
Abby didn't see or hear any of it because she was behind me.
But later, when I was explaining to her what happened, she said,
God, I thought that.
That was the happiest TSAG and I've ever seen.
She was so,
she actually noticed how happy this woman was.
Yeah.
So my point is that I loved that moment so much.
And it was a moment of not stupidity,
but like mishearing,
misunderstanding you.
But the going off script thing,
even when it's an accident,
causes this moment of humanity and delight between two people
that are strangers. I was thinking yesterday about how I will never forget that moment forever the rest of my life.
Because it was so weird. I don't think she will either. The way her face happened. So how weird that two
complete strangers who will probably never see each other again who met for five seconds will have this weird shared memory.
Yeah. That's delightful. That is delightful. There is something to be said about having somebody who's like in a position of,
I don't want to say power, but in a position where they have to be serious and their job is serious and to get them to forget about that for just a brief moment.
And it's impossible.
I have never seen that at a TSA agent before.
That kind of joy, right?
Because when you try to do it, it's not good.
I mean, she just was like this.
When I was putting my stuff on the, on the conveyor about she was just looking.
She was shaking her head.
She's just shaking her head. Big, big smile on her face.
I was just like, oh, my God.
Imagine saying what's your last been for six days in a row.
And then someone looking at you and saying, I've been sober for 25 years, which is dead of it.
And then in my head that night, this is like my bookend of the delight of this experience because I was delighted by it all day.
And then when I went to bed, I realized I was making up scenarios in my head.
For example, in my head, that woman needed a sign to get sober.
She was like for weeks and months trying to figure out like, maybe I should have she.
get sober. And she was like really trying to get sober. And then she was like, send me a sign that morning. And then this
woman's like, I've been sober for 25 years. But then I'm like, wow, I'm, you know, an hour and a half into
this instead of going to sleep. And instead of being like, why are you doing this? I was like,
my brain is so delightful. Look, I am just making up a story for this lady. That's delightful.
That's cool. Okay. So that's one of my delights. Babe, what about you?
Oh. Well, every morning, I'm a routine person. Yes, you are. I love my morning routine. I do nearly
exact same thing every morning. And part of my morning routine is that I go work out at the gym near a house from 7 to 8 a.m. almost every single weekday. Yes.
And when I first started going there about a year ago, I started noticing something that was happening. And where we live, there's like this.
liquor store that opens up at 7.30 every single morning. And that's early for a liquor store.
Yeah, it is. It makes me kind of sad. Do you see the TSAJ? I did not. But they sell like conveniences and
stuff there. But anyways, I started noticing this older gentleman would pull into the parking lot.
I do not know this person. I've never seen him. I don't know his name or anything like that.
But every single morning, he shows up right as that place opens up and he walks his little
rear end into that store and buys a lottery ticket every single day.
And there is nobody on the planet that has belief that good things can come to anybody
who believes it for themselves.
This is my daily morning delight.
You know that scene in Goodwill Hunting when Ben...
I knew you were going to say that.
We need to review this pod for how many times we've referenced for different reasons.
That scene from Goodwill Hunting.
Tell it, baby.
You guys can probably explain it better.
Do you want me to do it?
Yes.
So Ben Affleck picks Matt Damon up every single day to take him to his construction job.
Yeah.
Will is like this mathematical genius who should probably be working at MIT.
to or whatever. So Ben Affleck explains as his best friend that every single day when he walks
up to Matt Damon's door to pick him up for his construction job, he has a second where he
hopes and prays that Will will not answer the door because he's gone off to do his life and gotten
out of this town. Yeah. Yeah. And went and got to be able to like do his dreams. So for me,
my dream and hope is that this gentleman who is buying this lottery ticket stops showing up
because then I know he's won the freaking lottery.
And it is a delight.
And I work out with 10, 12 people different every morning.
Every single person knows about my obsession with this person who is going to win the lottery one day.
All the trainers that they're like, there's your guy.
There's a lotto guy.
And I love it so much.
And one of my superpowers is like when something delights me, I want to like share it with people.
You are so good at that.
You're very good at that.
So that's my little daily delight that I also like, I really love a good lottery ticket.
You do.
You're so hopeful.
I don't do it anymore.
Abby Wombach used to get an every time she would be absolutely positive that she was going to win.
Yeah.
And I just, I freaking love that about you.
Yeah.
I mean, shocked, shocked when she doesn't win.
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Okay, I have one.
Okay.
Recently, I escorted the fifth grade trip to Colonial Williamsburg.
Oh, my God.
Which was a 13-hour endeavor that included riding Henson Yon.
To and fro.
Two and fro.
On an autobus.
with like 100 fifth grade kids to colonial Williamsburg.
And then we walked around.
And then as if there wasn't enough injury already suffered,
we were waiting for the bus.
And then this guy's just open up.
It is a total deluge.
And we're all standing out waiting for the bus.
And then it's like this moment where everyone's trying to decide how to respond.
Exactly.
There's that moment where everyone's.
trying to decide whether to be like super cranky and vocally angry or just like quiet and
fuming frustrated or just to like resign ourselves to the fact that we're going to be sitting
on a stanky bus for three hours home with a hundred fifth graders. And then so after this
moment passes there's like 25 of the kids like run over to this corner and they're splashing in
the puddles and they are doing the arm pump, you know, the universal signal of honk at us.
And each car that goes by, probably 85% of them honk back at the kids.
And it is as if every single honk is like a goddamn miracle.
Every honk, they start screaming and jumping up and down.
Like they have just like one Abby's lottery.
And then again, they wait for the next car.
They do it with equal gusto.
Yes.
And then they honk.
And then they're just as freaking delighted the next time.
And it happened because we were waiting there for a long time in the rain for like 40 minutes.
And you just could not help but smile because all of it.
The finding a fun thing to do in an uncomfortable situation and making it more fun,
the fact that it's creating them that they're doing it.
And then this universal language we have, which is so odd of just pumping your arm up and down.
The honk in your horn is so weird.
And then everyone being like, I got you.
I got you.
Yeah.
Why is this universal sun?
Because it's trucks.
In trucks, they're used to have their horns like a little strap that they pulled down.
It also works with boats.
We used to do this.
This is how we get the big liners to honk their horn.
And we'd go, honk your horn.
But I think kids have so little control and power.
The honk.
The honk as a response is why does that elicit such delay?
Because it's like I see you.
The honk is like offensive.
But in this context, it's like, yes.
Yes.
We're all in this together.
Strangers.
Connection with strangers, man.
There's something to it.
So good.
So good.
Okay, a couple little ones.
Can I do like a couple little ones?
Yes.
So we have a golf cart that we used to drive around our.
town. We don't have it for golf, but people have those. And sometimes I drive it around in
early morning and the same people are out, like walking their dog. This one guy walks his dog.
This one lady is always speedwalking. And in my head, what I sing over and over again is,
these are the people in my neighborhood. In my neighborhood. In my neighborhood. Yes, these are
the people in my neighborhood. They're the people that I meet when I'm walking down.
the street, they're the people that I meet each day. And it makes me really happy. And I don't know
any of their names or talk to them ever, but they're part of my song. And then a little one is,
I was walking on this big sidewalk that we have where lots of people walk on by my house. And
the roses are all blooming. And I do find myself very delighted by flowers. And the flowers. And
things that grow. I don't understand it. I don't understand why we don't freak out about it more.
I will never understand how a very small packet of seeds that is as big as three inches turns into
a hundred foot garden where one piece of cucumber is a hundred times bigger than the little seat.
I don't understand why people don't freak out about that miracle all the time. It's so fucking crazy.
I'll be like, you guys, this seed that you can barely see on my finger became that thing.
And we're all just like, yeah.
Yeah, standard.
It makes me feel bad for Jesus when everyone was like, show us a miracle.
And he's like, look at that fucking watermelon.
Look around, asshole.
Look around assholes.
So anyway, there's this one flower garden that these people have.
And it's, the whole thing is full of apricot colored roses.
Ooh.
They're the most beautiful color.
I kept thinking somebody loves this color so much.
It's really doubling down.
The gardener's like, what about some blues or some green?
She's like, no, pretty much apricot.
Pretty much all apricot.
Apricot.
And this is what I'm thinking.
And they're so beautiful.
When you think we have enough apricot, add more apricot.
More apricot.
Right?
And that's what it was, it was delightful, right?
Like, that's delightful.
People who like something so much that they're like, no, all apricot.
I don't care.
I don't care if other people like a little red.
No.
As for me and my house.
Me in my house.
We're apricot.
We choose apricot.
Okay.
So I'm having all of these thoughts, being delighted by these flowers, being delighted by the apricot freaks who planted this garden.
And I run into a lady.
Okay, like literally, literally, yeah, literally run into a lady.
So you're walking or are you still in the golf girl?
I'm walking.
No, I'm walking.
Thank God.
Right.
Did you run like, was she walking the opposite way or were you walking in the same direction?
Unfortunately, I had apparently drifted a little bit over to the left side, like to the place where the people were walking forwards.
And I was, it's not a law, but it was everyone's walking.
But it's customary and.
And courteous.
Walking on the right side of the...
Everyone was walking.
I veered.
In my delight, I veered towards the apricite.
That happens to me on treadmills.
Okay.
Wait.
When I'm watching...
No, when I'm watching something on TV on a treadmill,
I literally almost fall off.
Anybody who ever watches anything on a treadmill.
So like you, you were like, oh, delight.
And I went towards a delay.
And then I ran into a lady.
Or she ran into me,
depending on how you look at it.
I was in her spot.
Okay, I was in her spot.
And then I was like, oh, I'm, you know, whatever I said.
I don't know.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I've been sober for 20 years.
Did you say that?
And then she goes, pay attention.
Okay, listen.
I have not stopped thinking about this.
I didn't say anything.
She had a point in her own worldview.
In her non-apricot-focused life perspective, she had a point.
It was so fascinating to me because I felt like a little bit offended in my soul walking away.
Because what I was doing was paying attention.
I was paying such close attention.
I was paying much attention.
I was paying more attention than any of the other undelighted assholes who were walking by Apricot Village, not even noticing.
I was not paying attention to the things that avoid pedestrian collisions.
Well, it's like that meme, not all wanderers are lost.
Not all those not paying attention to you are not paying attention.
Right.
And we're going to move on in a second, but I'm just going to put a flag in this because what I'm saying is that I feel like there's something here.
I feel like we are paying attention.
It reminded me of when I don't close the cabinets or whatever.
It's not that I'm not paying attention.
I'm actually paying attention to something very important and beautiful.
I'm just not paying attention to the thing that gets the things done or avoids problems.
Do you know what I'm saying, though?
Yeah, you have a different.
Your priority list of what you want to put your attention on is just different.
Perhaps we pay attention on different dimensions.
Yeah.
But attention is being paid.
Do you have any more you'd like to chat about?
Well, I have one that I thought was so touching.
This last Sunday, our son was competing in a half marathon.
And we were on this soccer trip.
And I wake up at like 6.50.
in the morning. And I see that there's a notification on my phone, FaceTime from Chase.
Now, in our world, that's like alert level, whatever.
Because he's not awake. And we are on a road trip with Emma. He didn't remind us that this
was happening. So we had no idea that he was actually running. So I called him, no answer,
text him, no response. And then about two minutes later, he facetimes me and turns to
the phone on. And what I realize is he is in the middle of his marathon. And he's at the 10th mile.
He and his roommate in college are running together, which I think is the sweetest thing ever.
And so long and the short of it, he wanted to include me and Glennon on his run, which like,
it just was so sweet. It's a delight. And it just made me feel delighted.
Yeah. And he wanted to include you. Yeah. He called you. She's like, yeah. She's like, yeah. He didn't call me. But when I hung up, that was the first thing Glennon said, he called you. And I was like, oh, he did. And that makes me very excited and go, oh. And another kid related delight that we were talking about is that our youngest in one of those soccer games.
She got hurt and they kind of get hurt and then you wait a second.
They usually pop right back up.
And sometimes they don't and that's like a really scary moment.
And so she didn't pop right back up.
So when she didn't pop right back up, I turned.
I'm just still registering what's happening.
So I turned towards the chair next to me to say, oh shit to Abby and Abby's not in her chair.
We're way up in the stadium thing.
I look down to look for Abby and she's already running across the field to the child on the field.
Right. So what happened after is that we're way up in this stands, me and Craig and Abby and all the parents. And she got really hurt. She's fine, but she got slammed. It's a big collision. Yeah. And so she's laying there and the trainer's out there and the coach is out there. And she's not moving, which is terrifying to us. Eyes close, not moving. Abby gets out there. She says, Emma, I'm here.
And then she opens her eyes and starts moving.
She said, I was waiting for you.
She wasn't going to move or open her eyes until her mom was there to say whether she should move or open her eyes.
But her certainty that if she just kept her eyes closed for five more seconds, that her mom would be in that circle.
And like, you know, when Abby Wambach runs out onto the field and it's like, that's my kid, the trainer just is kind of like, okay, go ahead.
Let me know.
Let me know what we should do.
I mean,
Isn't that this sweet?
It was really sweet.
It was a damn delight.
Just to hear her say,
I was waiting for you.
Just the certainty, knowing that, yes.
You know.
Oh my God.
That's so beautiful.
Yeah.
So Glennon wasn't around when I was playing.
And I would fall a lot.
I fell down a lot.
It was a very physical player.
And so to make sure that my mom wasn't losing her damn mind,
watching me have all of,
these physical collisions interactions, I would lay on the ground with my thumb up if I was
okay and just trying to like dive, they call it, elongate the call or play a psychological game
with the referees.
The refs didn't catch up on that.
I'm at the thumbs up.
She's like writhing in pain, but she's got a little baby thumb up.
Little baby thumb or like there were a couple times where I just, I was actually really hurt.
Oh, that'd be so sad to see your kids.
He's laying on the ground and then go thumbs down.
Yeah.
So we taught Emma the little.
All good.
But I knew instantly that it was going to be a big collision.
I knew she was going to be fine, like truly.
But I also knew that Emma didn't know she was going to be fine.
And so I needed to get out there to make sure that she knew that I knew that she was
going to be fine so that she could be fine.
And she was fine.
That story is so beautiful.
I just thought of a delight from that moment that maybe Emma has a little bit of being her
because the trainer goes, did you hit your sternum?
And Emma heard hit your sternum.
So she's just doing whatever they say.
So she slams herself in the chest while she's laying down.
She was just laying there and she goes, bam.
And I was like, whoa.
And the trainer goes, why did she do that?
you that? She goes, because she told me to hit my sternum. She said, did you hit your sternum?
She's like, well, now I did.
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All right. Do you have any more little one, Sissy, you wanted to say?
I garner a lot of delight from the fact that the dog always knows.
knows when a kid is sad or hurt.
If a kid is so sad about somebody, you don't know what to say,
but then Seamus just walks in and, like, puts his head on their shoulder or their lap.
And it's like, how did you know that?
It's amazing to me.
It is.
I know.
We had to, like, actually edit all of the dog because we could just sit here and talk all
day long about the delights our dogs give us. The dogs, they're just our besties.
Their delight reminders is what they are. Also, the way Alice says specifically, pacifically,
that is a source of delight for me. That's sweet. I'm going to be so sad when she learns. I've never
told her it's wrong. Good. Just because selfishly, I want her to keep saying it. I love that. Pacificly, I would
like to draw your attention to.
I had two little ones.
One is I was thinking about it.
It's a delight to me every time our friend Alex comes over and I open the door and she just stands on the doorstep and looks at me.
She tilts her head to one side and puts this face on her face that makes it seem like we haven't seen each other for 30 years.
And she's been on a long journey and she has finally made it.
She lives in L.A.
where we see each other once a week.
But it looks as if we have been on a long journey and have finally found our way back to each other,
which it sometimes feels like life is like that.
So Alex on the doorstep is one of my delights.
And also I have this yoga instructor who is really cool and wonderful.
And then every time I leave her class, she goes, by Glenn and I love you.
And the other day I said, I love you too, Anastasia. And I do love her.
Oh, that's so sweet.
It's like these people that show up in our lives and help us through an hour, help us through whatever.
Yeah. I love you, Anastasia. I really do. I love you.
I have a delight.
What's that?
So on Tuesday morning, I had made plans with your mom and your mom to go to my gym.
that I was speaking about earlier.
And I think she was feeling a little nervous because like...
Because she's 75 years old and she's going to the workout place that I have not gone to one time because I'm too scared of it.
And she gets in there.
And she's moving weight.
Your mom is amazing.
She's so fucking badass.
And so my delight comes when, you know, the trainer comes over and he's,
It's like, that's excellent form, Patty.
Excellent form.
And I was like, oh, my God, that's so exciting.
And then the walk home, your mom was so grateful and thankful.
And it's kind of intense and overwhelming at first because there's a lot going on if you don't know how it kind of flows.
And it was just a fucking delight.
It was amazing to me to like go and do this thing.
And also super inspiring for me.
Yeah.
It's like changed my outlook. I don't have parents that are active in their 70s, you know. So it's reframing like what my vision is for a future for ourselves, you know. It's really cool. Sissy, do you have any of you want to end on?
I feel like the small town delight delight me, the little things. Like I was just thinking about how when we go for a couple weeks in the summer to this small town.
where John grew up going and everyone's looking out for slash parenting everyone's kids.
And there's not like, don't talk to my kid like that.
There's just nothing.
It's like, please say what needs to be said to my kids.
It's just a few blocks in the shop where you can get like milkshakes and sandwiches and stuff.
And I remember calling up one time because I had to take Bobby somewhere.
And I didn't even say who I was.
I was like, can I please have an egg sandwich on bread?
And they go, wait, is this, is this for Bobby?
And I was like, yeah.
And they go, that's not Bobby's order.
We'll make Bobby's order.
And I was like, okay.
And it's the same place where Bobby came home one day and told me that unfortunately
at the market, the milkshake machine was broken.
And I was like, good for them.
The milkshake machine was definitely not broken.
They had just been like, this little boy has had.
Too many milkbooks.
So we're just going to tell him the milkshake machine is broken.
He's like, you'll never believe it the next day he went.
And he's like, the milkshake machine is working again.
Oh, my God.
I just really like that.
People can just make executive decisions about like your kid has been over served of milkshakes.
And we're just going to tell.
So good.
Just some common, some like small town common sense.
Yes.
And communal raising.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I have freaking loved this.
I think we should ask the pod squad.
I think that we should collect delights.
Yeah.
From the pod squad.
We, this is, this is like good stuff.
You know, it's like you can't add time.
You can't change time.
But you can kind of change your experience of life by focus.
I mean, let's plant some apricot roses.
Let's plant some of delacots.
And pay attention.
Yeah.
Let's pay attention.
Pay attention.
Pod Squad, if you want to share some of your delights, call in 747-2005307.
That's 747-2005307.
You're a delight, babe.
I am, I actually am.
Yes, you are.
I am, and guess what?
I think you are also a delight.
You do?
One of the things that I am most delighted by is you and your delight.
Wow.
Oh, delight of bounds.
I just love, like, honestly, if I see somebody else in a delight moment, it does something to me.
I'm like, oh.
Yeah.
Look at that person.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Pod Squad.
Oh.
We'll see you next time.
Go out there and get your old.
Bye.
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