We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle - Our Most Hilarious Episode EVER: Embarrassing Stories Comic Relief!

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Pod Squad, we’ve been doing a lot of hard things—so today, in the midst of all of it, we’re offering a little comic relief to keep us laughing, keep us dancing, keep us going. In this episode..., we’re sharing our most mortifying, cringe-inducing, please-let-me-disappear moments… along with your voicemail confessions that had us cry-laughing and peeing our pants in solidarity. We promise you: you need this. We needed this. - Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share their most humiliating, unforgettable stories - Pod Squad voicemail confessions that will make you laugh until you cry - Why normalizing our worst moments is the antidote to shame - Our new go-to strategy for surviving humiliation (spoiler alert, it involves a prosthetic penis) Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. Okay, I'm really excited about today because we need it. We have been discussing some very serious and hard things lately on the pod as we should, but we should also laugh. So today we're restoring some balance by revisiting our most embarrassing stories. I have to tell you that this episode is an episode that I think made the most people the most joyful. We are sharing today some of the most mortifying moments of our lives, along with your voicemail confessions that had us all cry laughing, literally peeing in our pants in solidarity. Our theory is that when we share the stories that make us want to disappear, we realize we're not alone at all. We really hope that this hour gives you a good laugh because you deserve it.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And if you've got any new embarrassing stories, please, please God, you must tell us. need this. If you have a new embarrassing story, leave us a voicemail at 747-200-5307. That's 747-200-5307. Here we go. Today, we have a real experiment to do, which is so exciting and fun. We had Jenny Lawson on, brilliant, hilarious. Jenny Lawson recently. It was our 100th episode. Go back and listen to it. And she talks and writes so much about the power of humiliation, the power of sharing our mortifying moments
Starting point is 00:01:50 with the goal of connecting us further and making life funnier and more universal. And it's so funny. And clearly we could use some LOLs at the moment. But also it made me think of the Brunei Brown episode where she was talking about how she talks about all of the horrible things she thinks to her kids. Yes. Because she thinks that normalization is the antidote to shame. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And it's so interesting because our mortifying stories, often make us feel ashamed, but sharing our mortifying stories normalizes that and is the cure to shame. Right. Exactly. So that's what we're going to do. That's our experiment. We asked a long time ago for the Pod Squad to send us their most embarrassing mortifying stories. What you need to know Pod Squad is that Abby and Sister and Allison and Dina and I have been listening to these stories. Yesterday, we could not. We weren't. recording, all we were doing was listening to your stories one at a time, peeing. The best.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I haven't laughed. You know that kind of laugh that just like makes you feel like you're a kid again? And just like you actually are not. Who needs a juice cleanse when you could just laugh like that? Exactly. It's a cleanse. It's a cleanse. I do think that laughing hard can be just as much of a cleanse as crying hard.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Is kind of what I figured out yesterday. So we're hoping our experiment is we're going to tell some of our mortifying stories. We're going to hear from the pod squad's mortifying stories. And we want to see if at the end of this hour, you feel a little bit more connected, a little bit more joyful, and a little bit less sucky. Okay? Just a little less sucky is what we're going for. It's a low bar people. Yeah. Okay. So who wants to start? Who wants to share their embarrassing stories first? Sister, why don't you go? I like how I was, I was, Voluntled. Okay. So I have one that just happened a couple months ago because it's hard to narrow down my embarrassing
Starting point is 00:04:11 stories. So I'm just going to go sequentially. The most recent one was I was on a call with our accountant. And what we need to know about her for purposes of this is that she and her little doggy are thick as thieves. Like he has airline statuses. He's definitely cared for better than my children. So we're on this Zoom meeting. It was when I was in the process of adopting our dog, Shamus, from this rescue group that rescued golden retrievers. And so we were in the process of applying to rescue him. But he wasn't actually Seamus.
Starting point is 00:04:53 He had a different name. And she's so excited because she loves the dog. and so she says, what's his name? And I, for no ascertainable reason, proceed to go into a diatribe in which I said, I promise you the things I said were, don't judge us, this is not going to be his name. We would never choose this name.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It's the most pretentious name I have ever heard. I'm mortified by it. It's dripping with waspiness. I am allergic to this name. So don't judge me when I tell you. Okay? She says, well, what's the name? I say Jeeves.
Starting point is 00:05:43 At which point she pulls the dog into the Zoom screen and says, this is Jeeves. So that sucked. And so then I'm doing the thing where I am trying to. dig myself out of the hole instead of just like not digging anymore. Right. And I, if you can possibly believe it, I make it worse for all of us, including the Jeeveses. And that is the story of why we're getting audited this year. Because that's what John said when I told the story.
Starting point is 00:06:17 He's like, why would you say any of that? Oh my God, she's your accountant. Like, that's the worst person you could have completely offended. Also, his name was not Jeeves because you can't fool me 30050 times and I am not saying it out loud again. Because then all y'all with the original name are going to call in and tell me. I think you should. I think you should tell us the original name because I actually, it will balance each other out because I love the original name. Same.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I wanted a name. If I had another, if we rescue dog, I might name it this and tell us what it was named. This is a bad idea. It was Bentley. Outed. You're not allowed to out people. This is the 90s. The dog thing was Bentley.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I think that's the cutest freaking name. And I know it's a fancy car. That was just why you hated it because it was a fancy car, right? Yeah. It sounded like a frat boy who was like, I don't know. I think I want a Bentley. I want a Bentley car. Not even a dog.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Bentley's Summers in Maine. That's true what this is. Okay. So I'll tell you, I'm going to tell you two quickly of mine. Okay. Okay. So I taught third grade for a long time. It was the joy of my life. Okay. I still think I'm a teacher just like on a very strange hiatus where I talk into a microphone. I'm waiting to get back to the classroom at some point. But I taught at a school where barely any of my kids, my students had English as their first language. So that's an important part of the story. A lot of them were very recent immigrants. We did a lot of communicating by body language by a lot of things in the beginning. Okay. I had this one kid. I'm going to call him Oscar. Okay. Call him Jeeves. Okay. So his name is Oscar. He was, we're definitely not supposed to have favorites, but one of my all-time favorite kids. He had barely any English. So,
Starting point is 00:08:20 Valentine's Day, he comes in, he walks up to my desk and he says, Miss D, present. And he's wrapped it with the construction paper from our classroom. So it's all like smushed up. And so what you need to know real quick about Oscar is that he had an older brother who I loved so much. I was only a few years younger than me. He was gang involved, had some stuff going on. But you would take such good care of Oscar and like bring him to school. Oscar was always stealing shit from his brother.
Starting point is 00:08:46 So I opened this construction paper present. And it's this very thick. gold chain, like a rope gold chain, like heavy, heavy, heavy gold chain. And it has this huge medallion on it. And the medallion says, number one sex machine. Number one sex machine. Okay. Now, he, Oscar, I'm looking at this gold chain. Oscar is looking up at me with the most sweet, I mean, just precious, like she's going to love this. She, probably loves gold, the more gold, the better. He doesn't know what the hell this thing says, right? She loves letters. Look at all these letters. She likes numbers. She likes letters.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Right. So then Oscar says, are you going to wear it? You're going to wear it, right, Misty? You bet your number one sex machine ass I'm going to wear it. Exactly. Nobody looks at Oscar's eyes and says, no, I'm not wearing this. So I did walk from my classroom. down to P.E. And then to the cafeteria with my teacher dress on, my little ducklings behind me, Oscar proud as shit with a gold chain that says number one sex machine through an elementary school. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And, you know, the teachers who are my friends in the hallway were looking at me like huge eyes. And I was just like dagger eyeing them. Like, I dare you. You just look away. Just look away. They knew it was true. And the irony of number one sex machine being my gift. That's what we should have called silent sex queen.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Exactly. Number one sex machine. Oh my God, I just thought of another one. Okay, what? So when I was working at the law firm, there was this huge case that came up and there were like boxes and boxes of documents that we had to review for the court case. And it was too sensitive to even send by a courier. So they sent me over to the client's office to pick up these many, many boxes of documents.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It was like a really big deal. I was like, oh, I'm being trusted with this very, you know, confidential, important thing. It was only like a mile away from my office. So I get in my car. I drive over to the client's office, walk in, meet the general counsel. He's very nervous about all of these things that are happening. I'm like, don't worry, you're in great hands. We're going to take care of you.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I have this huge dolly, like one of those not like hand dollies, but the big lie flat has two sides dollies. And I have to take all these very sensitive documents and stack them on the big dolly. There's like 15 bankers boxes worth of documents. I have to take the elevator back down to the parking lot. I'm like, rest assured, you're in the best hands possible. You can trust us.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Okay. And I get to the parking lot. And I'm like, I can't find my car. That's odd. So I'm like, I'll go look for my car. But I can't leave the dolly anymore. Right. Because it's very important.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So I'm rolling this giant dolly through the parking lot. And I can't find my fucking car. It's not there. And I have to go all through the five levels of the parking lot to look for my car with this giant ass dolly. I am seeing people like over and over again as I go up with the dolly, down with the dolly, up with a nut. I did this.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I am not joking you for two hours. Two hours with the dolly. I was just about to cry because I'm like, I don't know what to do. I can't leave. Right. But I can't stay. And I can't very well go back upstairs to the general counsel of this client. that I've just told he's in very good hands and say, I can't find my car, but don't worry, I have an acute legal mind.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So after a while, I was just like, I'm screwed. There's nothing I can do. I can't call my law firm and say, thanks for trusting me with this case. Can you come help me find my car? Dude, where's my car? I just keep doing it. I just keep going up and down and up and down and up and down. Three hours later. I'm not joking. The elevator comes down to the garage. Who steps off the elevator? The general counsel of the company.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Steps off the elevator. And I am kidding. He's going home for the day. He's going home for the day. I am standing with the dolly that he has left me with three hours prior with no explanation as to how and why this would. this would possibly be the kid. Oh, no. And I just had to make some shit up.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Like, yeah, I just got to do some legal things here with these documents for a minute. Where was your freaking car? I had to wait till everyone left. I had to wait till everyone left. For what? So I could find my car. See, what is the only car left? There's no explanation for it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 It doesn't make any sense. But I swear to God that thing happened. Okay, thanks. I am machine. And I am Craig. Craig here is my big brother. We are so excited for you to listen to our brand new podcast. It's called IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. Together, Craig and I are going to take your questions about the challenges you're grappling with in life. So get in touch. Send us your questions and join us. On IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. Subscribe wherever you get your podcast. So our friends at Gatorade for sponsoring this episode. Okay, I have to tell you about something from a brand that I'm pretty familiar with. And I think that all of our listeners must try.
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Starting point is 00:18:12 I know. Yes, that is interesting. I know. We can do hard things, but we cannot do easy things. Yeah. Oh, and one time I went to the hospital to the urgent care because Bobby had this situation. was urgent careworthy. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I go into the line and they're trying to check me in. And they're like, you know, your kid's name, your kid's birthday, all the things to look them up. I give him all the information. They're like, he's not in our system. I'm like, yes, he is in your system. He was born here like two years ago. Check your system.
Starting point is 00:18:46 This child was born in this hospital. And they're taking so long and they're saying he's not in here and now I'm getting pissed, right? Because this is the urgent part of urgent care. Like we need to get in there. It's not just care. Right. I'm not looking for care at your general convenience.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm looking for urgent care. Right. So there's this whole line behind me. I'm like getting very upset. Like get your shit in a pile people. The people behind me are like, yeah, this is, I mean, why isn't he in this system if was born here? And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:15 So I'm getting a little vocal. And they keep looking. They keep looking. Anyway, they finally find him. And I'm like, well, thank you at which point they announced to me and the whole line, because obviously they're very annoyed too, that that is not in fact my son's birthday. Oh my God. And that is where they couldn't find him because I didn't know his birthday. Wrong info. That's so embarrassing. It is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I have a doctor story. So one time when Chase was a baby, he was teeny tiny, he started to get this wild rash on his face. And every once in a while, actually be on his hand. And every once in a to, and it was like orange, like this orange rash. And it would go away and come back, go away and come back. And I was very concerned about it. And so I finally could not figure out what it was. So I took him to the doctor. So I'm in the doctor's office. And I'm standing there with the baby. I'm showing him. He's examining the orange face. I'm like, what could this be? Doctor's kind of looking at me strange. Whatever. The doctor leaves. The doctor comes back. And he looks very kind of embarrassed, you know. And I'm like, what's, oh God, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:20:25 And he looks at Chase's face and then he looks at me. And he says, I just, I want to ask you a question. Do you, it looks like from your appearance that it's possible that you might go to a tanning salon. Do you buy any chance spray tan? Do you use that spray tan? And I'm just like, it's not, and I'm not computing. I'm like, why in the fuck is this guy judging me for going? You're doing your business, Doc.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Can we focus on the kid? I have a young baby. I'm doing whatever it takes. All right. Whatever it takes to survive is what I'm doing. And the spray tanning is the least of my problems, if you must know the truth. So he goes, because the spray it comes off. Like the orange on your skin, I was breastfeeding chase.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I was dying my child's face from my boob with spray tan. I know what he was doing when he left the room. He had to go talk to the other nurses and be like, she's infected her child with spray tan orange. He's like, you know that orange chick that just walked in? You're not going to believe this shit. She's like, you know, see that fluorescent orange that's around your kid's mouth? Have you noticed that it's the same hue of fluorescent orange that you are?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Right. So I laughed and I'm like, so Craig, here's the day. deal. Our kids just going to be orange for a while. Right. Because I'm not ready to stop. All right. So, but we don't have to worry about it. Well, this is a good segue for, because this is kind of like we're, we're now easing into body functions, body parts of mortified stories. And we're going to hear, I think, a few of them in, and voicemails from pod squatters. But mine happened when I was about 14 years old.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I got off the bus. Oh, God. She's going to do it. And, you know, I didn't like. to go number two at school. Like many of us don't. We got to be in the comfort of our own home. We got our one specific toilet in the house that we like to go to. And at 14 years old, I was just assuming it was going to be like any old day. But this day, for some reason, my bowels got moving faster than normal. And so as I was walking home from the bus stop,
Starting point is 00:22:46 I lived on a cul-de-sac. And it was maybe a couple hundred yards walk to my house. I thought, well, I really got to go. And I can't run because I got to go so bad. Yes, that's the catch-22 of the number two. Yeah, I can't run. And so what ends up happening, long story short, is I shit my pants. I shit, like full-on shit in my undies. But it wasn't like die-or-die shit.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It was like big poop. Ew, oh my God, we're getting so specific. And so I go back. That's better. Yeah, I go back. I waddle into the house and try to get upstairs as fast as possible. And I go into my bathroom and I get the poo in the toilet. I flush it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But that doesn't like clean up the whole problem. Right. And I didn't feel like I was just going to throw it away. And so the mortifying part of the story. That wasn't it? It's not even shit in my pants. I don't care about that. It's that I threw my poopied undies into the wicker trash basket.
Starting point is 00:24:00 In your bedroom. In my bedroom. Not even the bathroom. And so my cousin who was living with us at the time, who was living in my bedroom, we had two little beds in there. She calls me out on it when she gets home because my room smells like actual poo. because it's a wicker basket. There's not even a plastic liner in it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 You just put it in an open air situation. You're like, that should do it. She goes, Abby, I have a question for you. And I think to this day, we still have never talked about it. Abby, I have a question for you. Did you poop in your underwear and then you throw them out in the wicker basket? And I was like, no. To your grave.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I was like, no. Take it to the grave. I don't know where these. She's like, but they're your underwear. I know what your underwear looks like. I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. This is a case for the FBI.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Abby's finally admitting it was her underwear. It was. I pooed in my pants. I couldn't make it back. Okay. It's happened all the time. I know. And you know when you get closer, the urge gets worse.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It does. Let let ye who has not pooped her pants throw the first son. Do you remember, sister, when you, I'm just, I'm having so many mortifying flashes right now, it's just all coming back to me. It's all coming back to me now. Do you remember when you were driving home from high school? Yes. And in the Creseda, in the Creseda that we used to start with a screwdriver.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That none of my friends' parents would let them drive in because they had sense. Because it was like a death trap. Yes, yes, it was. But remember when you just, you just got. stuck in traffic and you just... No, I wasn't stuck in traffic. You just sat in the front seat and just peed. I just did the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Full on. Wait, gosh. What? Gosh pee. Yeah. Well, I was driving home and I did the calculus. I was driving home from school. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And there was just zero chance that I was going to make it home. Right. In time. It was just, and so I just, I just peed. But quick cue. I just full on. Quick cue. Full peed.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yes. Did you think you could just pull off the road? real quick. No, here's the problem. Here's the problem. So the high school got out, right? And it was one route out of the high school. Everyone's leaving on the same road. There's no way around the situation. It was like high schoolers in front of me, high schoolers behind me. There's there's not like a inconspicuous place to stop. Like I thought about it. I'm like, I could pull over in Tracy. Like no, no, no, no. No. And like getting to a gas station was beyond the pale. I only lived half a mile from the high school.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I couldn't even wait a half a mile. She pulled on. I full on. Like, the amount of pee that goes in the toilet is what went in the Crescenta. Not just like a dribble. Because you can't stop. And then the weirdest part is that you're looking. So it's like a mullet where it's like business in the front party in the back.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It was like half of my body looked normal. I'm like waving to people like hi. Have a great nice. you tomorrow. But the other half of me is just gushed pissing all over my car. And I'm like, how weird that none of these people know I'm pissing myself right now. What did your parents say? Did you tell Bubba and Tisha? I remember telling me. We probably didn't even put it up. No, I'm sure I didn't. And also, it's not like the crest that could be damaged. I probably just let it air out and got back in the next thing. Yeah, that was like the cleanest part. Oh my gosh. All right. I'm going to tell my pee story and maybe even my poo story.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You have a poo story? You have a poo story? Can you start with that? No. Okay. So they all have to do with my one long-term ex-boyfriend. We're going to call him Joe. Okay. The first time I hope-
Starting point is 00:27:58 Let's call him Jeeves. Okay. The first time I was very drunk. Also, all of the other times for seven years. Every time, including the first. Yeah. Yeah. Super drunk.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Okay. And so it was in college. I slept over at his house for the first time. And so I woke up at like 11 or something. And Jeeves was not in bed anymore. And the reason that Jeeves was not in bed is because I had pissed like, like it was like I was on a water bed. Like I was in the middle of the pond. It was like you were in the Creseda.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, it was like I was in the Crescent. I had peed everywhere. And then I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do and I was still kind of drunk. And so I real quick just gathered up all of the sheets and the blankets from the bed. And I just stole all of them. I just walked from his house all the way to my dorm. So it was like the middle of the day.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And I was walking through with like my heels and my black leather pants and like a shit ton of sheets. Yellow stained sheets because you know after a night of drinking, that shit is a high. So it's like neon yellow. There had just never been a walk of shame that was more shameful, you know? Just picturing you in your tube top where everyone's going out for brunch and you're just carrying a comforter. Yeah. Just a comforter and sheets. And then his whole fraternity called me puddles for like an entire year.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Rightfully so. Rightfully so. If you pissed in the vet, I'd call you puddles. Yeah. Okay. And then just I'm going to tell the poo story just because I feel like this is, I'm, And it feels like I show. Just for a little background, though.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I don't and never have farted in front of Glennon before. No. Yes. No. Yes. Because she wants to keep some things a mystery. And that's one of them. The mystery that maybe you're a person who doesn't fart?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Look. You mean the lie? She wants to keep the lie? Yeah. She wants to stay attracted to me because she sees as a farter. I think that she deems us less attractive. So we don't. talk about poop stories or fart stories.
Starting point is 00:30:14 We don't talk about farty. No, no. You guys, I have issues with body stuff. Like bodily things. Oh, do you? That's so odd. I know, but isn't this... Sister, what do you have to say about women who have issues with body stuff?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Oh, Abby, I'm so glad you asked. Okay. Let's do our little five minutes of feminism. It's Whon. And then we're going to get to Glenn and shit. It's woohoo. It's woohoo. It's woohoo.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Let's go. Let's go. You feminist kill joy. Okay. Okay. So here's the deal. Mortification. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Original term is the Latin word meaning to put to death. Wow. This is literally, it's still in mortal. Okay. Yes, mortal. Exactly. Okay. Still in medical terms, mortification refers to,
Starting point is 00:31:10 the death of one part of your body while another part is still alive. So it's necrosis, right? Where like maybe your hand, but maybe. Necrosis. She says it like, that's an everyday word that we'll all know. So, so, and this is the reason why when you have a mortifying situation, you feel like part of you has died. Yes. I am dead because this happened. I am now dead. And I actually regret the fact that the rest of me is still alive. because I have to keep living in this untenable situation that I have created. Yeah. Continue. But in Christianity, mortification, it's a whole Christian tenet that is the mortification of sins and the flesh.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Right? Stay with me. I'm getting. I'm getting there. Okay, okay. So it's this concept of self-denial. You put to death the deeds of the body in you to repent for yourself. sins. So that self-denial, the discipline, it's the fasting, it's the abstinence from sex.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It's even in its most extreme form, the self-flagellation, whipping yourself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, wearing hair shirts. They used to wear hair shirts to punish themselves. Exactly. This is all mortification of the flesh. Okay? And that sounds absolutely insane. Right. But how is that different from what we do, especially, as women, I'm looking at you, Glennon, when there are natural deeds of the body, like the farting and the pooping and the peeing, all 100% natural of the flesh, for some reason we deny, self-denial, that they're a part of life. And when they show up, we proceed to self-flagellate for being so evil as to let our bodies do what
Starting point is 00:33:06 they do. Oh my God. That's why everyone's most embarrassing stories are about like pooping. or periods or farting or peeing and they're all just totally natural thing. So farting and pooping and the discussion of it is an actual act of feminism. This is what you're saying, sister. I am saying that the body does what the body does. And if you have shame around the body or self-denial, like for example, that your partner
Starting point is 00:33:30 farts, then it's possible that you are trying to put to death what the body does, which how Is that any different from the self-denial? I feel like people are going to be so mad at me about this one. I think they forgive me for a lot of things, but I think they're going to be really mad at me for not letting you fart. And I just want to say to the pod squad, I don't need you to be on Abby's side about it. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I know, I know, and I'm working on being less mortified about having a body. That's what my whole eating shit is. And it's not about a shape of a body. It's about having a body. I'm mortified at these things we live inside of. I would have designed them better. Okay, go on with your poop story. It's not about them being better.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's about you being okay with them. I know. I know. All right. But I'm just saying why with all the farting and the pooping? Okay. Why not? I'm saying, why not?
Starting point is 00:34:27 So I'm away. Why not? I'm away with Jeeves. Years later. Damn it. I was hoping so bad that this is a story that I was involved in. No, and I've never told you the story. She hasn't pooped since she met you, Abby.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But I want you to know that I don't want to talk about the story after the podcast. I don't want you to bring it up again. I don't want it to be part of our familial canon. Okay. I just, I want to tell it one time and then I want it to be down. It's the cone of pod. Poop boundaries. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It's just the three of us and several million people. Right. That's it. That's where I'm most gone to roll. Okay. So I'm on vacation with Jeeves' family. Jeeves' family is very fancy. I am in a hotel room.
Starting point is 00:35:14 We have all different hotel rooms. Jeeves and I have our own hotel room. I have never admitted to pooping to Jeeves. This is not something that he knows that I do. Okay? Also, to know Jeeves is very gross. Jeeves had no problem pooping. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Anyway, I had to poop. Okay. Which is hard for you on trips. Yeah, super hard. So I go into the bathroom and I poop and I come out and I sit down on the couch. And then Jeeves, it's a very small hotel room. Jeeves' whole family comes in because we're all going out to dinner together. So there's like seven people in this room.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Jeeves' mom, Jeeves' dad, Jeeves, all his little brothers and sisters. He's got this teenage brother. His teenage brother walks into the bathroom. We're all dressed up, ready to go, his little brother, busts open the bathroom and goes, oh my God, who took this humongous shit? Left a floater? I fucking forgot to flush the goddamn toilet. And Jeeves looks at me.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And Jeeves is not the type to take one for the team. Okay? That is not Jeeves. Jeeves looks at me with the most joy I've ever seen on. on his face before he wants to go look at it. No, because he's so excited that this has happened to me. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:36:44 He delights in your mortification. And he just goes, it was her. She shit. She shit. And then all the family just stared at me. And I had no, I'm sweat. I'm sweating. I'm sweating so much.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I can't. I had no idea how to, I didn't say any words. I just stared at everyone. There was no ending to this moment. No. And truly 80% of me died and the 20% shell of me had to leave that room and go to dinner with those people. Maybe this is what the real issue stems from. This is the trauma.
Starting point is 00:37:23 She did it. She did it. So did you flush the toilet. How did the poop go down? What happened? I don't know, baby. I don't know. I just, I went.
Starting point is 00:37:33 She backed out after that. Yeah. I just. Good job on taking a big shit. Thanks. Go bigger, go home. Wow. Yeah, I'm excited that I made it through that story and that time of my life.
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Starting point is 00:40:53 This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Do you guys want to hear some? Yes, let's do some voicemails. Okay, let's do it. Hello, I'm calling to share a mortifying, embarrassing story. When I was 19, I had an internship at the Met Opera Guild in Manhattan. And I went out with a coworker. I never really drank before and got really, really drunk.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And she put me on a subway train to send me home at about like 3 a.m. And it was the only one on the train. And I was sitting there just concentrating so I didn't miss my stop. There was one of those ad posters in the train right across me. and I was reading it, and it was a picture of a woman in like a sweater looking forlorn out a window. And the text said, someone on this train has lupus. And I read it and I looked around and I was the only one on the train and I decided that it was me. I was going here.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It must be me that have lupus. And I was so concerned that I like called my roommate at the time and his mom and some folks that I worked with and what messages on office zones, letting everyone know that I had Lupa. Obviously did not, but good time. Someone on this train has Luper. She looked at the train. Oh my God, it's me.
Starting point is 00:42:34 She called her friends to raise the name. And it said her coworkers. She called her coworkers at 2 a.m. and left them voicemails that she had. That the train just informed her diagnosis with Lupus. The train diagnosed her. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And I love, I was just concentrating so I didn't miss my stuff. I relate to that part, too. Oh, God, yes. I just tell myself. I just tell myself. I just tell myself. As much as a person who can't concentrate because they're messed up. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:43:09 All right. That was amazing. All right. Let's hear from Michaela. Oh, that was good. My name is Michaela. I was dating a man who is in the Army. He brought me to an Army ball.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And there is a segment of this ball where everyone stands up and raises a glass and the Commissioner of the ball. They stand up there and they say a bunch of toasts. And you have dedicated responses in your program to these toast. So for example, the commissioner might say, I propose a toast to the USA and everyone says to the USA. And then there might be one that says, I propose a toast to field. artillery and everyone says the king of battle. So there's all these responses and they're written in your program. So I'm standing. I'm holding my glass. I am running through these responses. That and a thousand. Feeling so confident. Loving this, feeling like a part of something, so cool,
Starting point is 00:44:00 supporting our armed forces. I'm loving it. We get to the last toast and the commissioner says, a toast to our fallen comrades. And I scream out. Moment of silence. because I was reading the responses in the program. And probably 1,500 people in this ballroom looked at me with such disgust and disdain. Because not only had I just disrespected all of our fallen comrade, I was truly just an idiot reading out the words, moment of silence, so proudly, so proud of myself for going through these posts so well. So that moment haunts me to this day.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Oh, my God. And I love you all so much. Bye. We love you. for Michaela. Moment of silence. That's something I would have done. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I would have done that. Yes. I'm very like, I would love the order of it all reading. I've got a goal. I've got a job. There's one more response. And I would have also said, begins now. Moment of silence.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Begins now. That's good. Oh, that's really good. It's not good. It would not have cover. Yeah, because then you can pretend that that was your job to announce the moment of silence. Yeah, or at least acknowledge the random lady who's dressed up at table 38. That's her job.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I don't think so. Moment of silence. Also, can we just imagine the 1,500 people turning and looking at this woman who has just screamed at the top of her lungs, moment of silence. Oh, God. I don't know why, but I would have paid a lot of money to see that. Me too. To see that in real life, I would have, too. I would have paid a lot of money to see something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I love seeing other people in their mortifying moments for some reason. Is there like some science behind that? Well, I think it's gratitude. I love when people like add relief moments like that to like rigid things when like humanity and humor and absurdity get inserted accidentally into rigid situation. It's life saving. When people fall down in the airport, I just can't. not love it more. Obviously, no injuries.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Right. That was the whole basis of that. Remember America's Funniest Home Video? Yes. That we used to watch every night. And it was just random people getting kicked in the ball. Yes. The entire show.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's totally right. That was the whole basis of this. Do you remember, okay, I'm just remembering, do you remember when I walked around for months in that padded bra that said, it was like a sports bra that was padded, but it had a sticker on it that said padded, bra and I just walked around it forever. And then I was just remembering, remember when I moved to that new neighborhood in Virginia and they were having a potluck and we got a little, a little, a little, what, not an interview,
Starting point is 00:46:58 was an invitation, right? I don't get a lot of them. You have more interviews than you have invitation. Exactly. So it was an invitation. And it said, bring a dish. And so I had never been to a fucking potluck before. And so I brought a dish, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:19 A dish, an empty dish. What did the host say? Well, I do remember vividly the host's face because I was like, what's wrong with this person? Like, what's- She doesn't like my dish? She doesn't like my dish. Maybe I was supposed to bring a certain kind of dish. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:35 But I just, that was a moment in like, you know, just say what you mean, people. If you want a dish with a food on it, say it. If you want a dish with a food on it, say it. If you want a dish. It feels like one plain thing. But I just have a question. Let's just get to the root of what did you think was going to happen with your dish? Well, I thought somebody else was going to put food on it.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So you were just bringing like plates? Yes. To a serving tray, like a serving dish. I thought maybe my job was to bring the dishes and someone else was going to bring the food. I did my part. That's why I didn't get a lot of invitations. Oh, God. Okay, let's hear from our next pod squatter.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Hey, y'all. Love the podcast. Love, love, love it. My name is Allison. Seriously, the most fucking embarrassing moment of my life just happened on Friday. I was at lunch with a friend from high school. And we had just finished eating. And I leaned forward kind of just to lean into the conversation.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And I thought I farted. But no, I sat in my pants. Sitting right there, my 55-year-old. self, not just like regular poop, but diarrhea. Die die, die. Yeah. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:54 So I just leaned in and I said to my friend, I just pooped in my pants. Like, I just pooped in my pants and I don't know if I can get up. So I got up and like soaps to the bathroom quickly. And, of course, there was a line. And I got in there, and sure enough, there it was. I threw my underwear away in the trash can. And you could see poof on the back of my pants. My pants were wet.
Starting point is 00:49:27 So I'm like, what's that fuck? So I'm like pulling my shirt down. I go back to the table. I'm like, girl, I got to go. I just left. She paid for my lunch. I just freaking left. I have a long purse, put it, covered my ass, and just like got out of there.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I've never done that in my life. I've almost pooped in my pants, but never like this. I'm a great day. Never like this. I hope the trash can was not wicker. All right, let's hear from Ann. Hi, this is Anne from Minnesota, and I am calling to tell you one of my most mortifying moments.
Starting point is 00:50:02 This was years ago, and I went to the movies with my boyfriend, and it was a really intense movie, but I was dying for popcorn. So I was sitting on the end of the row, and I knocked out. and got my popcorn and came back in and got in my seat and kind of cuddled up and was looking at the movie and I started to feed him some popcorn and play footsees and just catch up on the plot. And then all of a sudden I noticed that my boyfriend was sitting three or four rows ahead of me. I'd actually sat down by some random guy who was all of a sudden more interested in me than the movie. So I was so mortified. I just dropped the popcorn and saw the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Didn't work out with that guy, but boy, it's a fun story later. Oh, so good. Okay, that reminds me. The wrong dude just reminded me of something that I'm going to admit right now. Okay. So during my drinking days, I was out at night with a bunch of friends and I decided to take a cab to my boyfriend's house. So I had the cab. I told the cab driver my boyfriend's address.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I got delivered to the door. but when the door opened, I realized that I had gone to the wrong boyfriend's house. This was my old boyfriend from like a year before. And I had forgotten that I wasn't dating him anymore. I had forgotten I had a whole new boyfriend. Okay. And then, do you know the worst part, the most mortifying part? You stayed there, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:51:35 I just fucking stayed there. Oh, what? I just stayed there. You slept with the old one? Oh, my. I was like, well, you know, I don't want to make this awkward. I'm just going to act like I came here on purpose. I came here for a reason.
Starting point is 00:51:49 He looks happy to see me. Well, let's just do this. And I need a bed. I just need to go to bed. So, yeah, I slept with him that night. Oh, my gosh. So like the popcorn story, but just like much sadder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But the difference is you saw it was the wrong boyfriend. And you're like, oh, fuck. Oh, let's go it. Yeah. A guy's guy. And didn't know when she was putting popcorn into the mouth of her boyfriend
Starting point is 00:52:18 that it was in fact a stranger. I know. I got sober. Okay. It's fine. It's all of it ends well. Jeeves was delighted. Okay. Let's go with Andrea. Andrea. I was in a public stall. My door wouldn't lock.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And so, you know, I was doing the balancing act of trying to hold the door closed. and go to the bathroom. But you know, you can't hold it the whole time. Right. Before I knew it, another woman had come in to my stall, not even seeing that I was there and pulled her pants out and sat on me.
Starting point is 00:52:52 No. It was mortifying. I don't know who it was more embarrassing for, me or her. But, yeah. I mean, I can only imagine a little tinkle had to have come out. Oh, my God. I mean, a stranger naked woman sitting on your lap. How would you not notice that maybe she was drunk?
Starting point is 00:53:14 Oh, I could, you know, you would, you could totally do it. Sometimes she was back in there. Yeah, that's true. You back in a little bit. I would never walk into a stall without looking in the first. No, that's fair. That is a truth. Maybe she was drunk.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Maybe it was me. Maybe it was me. Yes. Yes. I'm going to need Andrea, please, for the love of God. Can you call back in and give us the rest of that? story because what I need to know is when said naked woman who's sitting on top of you realizes that she is not sitting on a toilet but sitting on you. Yes. What happens next? Yes. I need to know more.
Starting point is 00:53:54 How do you recover from that? Are you just like, oh, excuse me, sorry. And then she stands up and pulls up her pants and then leaves the rest of her. I think a lot of mortifying moments end in no language. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's not mortification is not something that can be explained. It needs to just die. It needs to be, you have to pretend that it never happened. Yeah, you do have to pretend. Right. Right. It's just, you don't explain it. That, I remember pre-COVID, landing at an airport, and getting into my Uber, putting my suitcase in the backseat, jumping into an Uber and saying, thank you so much for picking me up. And the woman saying, I am not an Uber. I am waiting for my sister. You got into a, I got into a civilian's car. Right. And then the best part is,
Starting point is 00:54:39 I was like, oh my God, I am so sorry and started to get out of the car. And she goes, that's okay, Glennon. No, no. She knew what was you. Oh, my God. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, let's hear from M. My name is M.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And I work in a workplace where we have security guards. And I've worked there for many, many years. So these security guards know me really well. And a few years ago, I was leaving from work and going to the airport to visit a lover. And I had my suitcase with me. And in my suitcase, I had a strap on. Otherwise, sometimes referred to as a dildo. There it is.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And I put my suitcase through the metal detector and these guards that I know very well said, ma'am, can you tell us what this is? And they pointed right to the strap on. And I held my shoulders back and in a very calm voice, I said, yes, that is a prosthetic penis. And I took my suitcase and I walked very calmly to the elevator where I melted into a puddle of laughing and crying and embarrassment. So that is my favorite strap-on story. Thank you. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Strap-on story. That means she has a lot of other strap-on stories. Oh my God. I love this straight in my back and said, yes, that is a prosthetic penis. Exactly. Okay, I have a little story that I need to tell. So I was traveling. You have a favorite strap-on story? I don't have a favorite strap-on story. But this is a similar kind of story that I think might fall in the lines.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I was traveling via plane. And so, of course, you know, you have to go through metal detectors and security. And I was just doing carry-on, so I had a rolly carry-on bag. And this happened to be like kind of a small airport. So they actually went through the whole bag, right? And I didn't anticipate this. And I was bringing, I brought a vibrator with me on the road, wherever it was, I was going. I think I was actually in like Birmingham, Alabama.
Starting point is 00:56:53 So the sweet older TSA agent, he starts going through my bag and finds my vibrator. So he pulls my vibrator out and says, what is this? And I said, it's a viperator. And he said, what does it do? And I say, it vibrates. And so he turned it on and it starts vibrating. And his coworker walks over and catches this moment happening. And he's like, oh my God, I am so sorry. Oh my God. Turn that off. Put that back. You know. And I'm not the kind of person that gets embarrassed about stuff like this. Right. Pro vibrations. True. Yes. You have high vibrations, high and frequent.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But I was mortified in some ways for this older gentleman for me to walk away and then him to get told what it was. On the upside, he now knows that vibrators exist and his life has gotten better. Right. I bet security people see a lot of random weird shit. Yeah, a lot of mortifying moments in that line. Okay. All right. We have some write-ins.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Great. That we have to. Okay. All right. Top 10 of the write-ins that you all send in. Yes. I once tried to flirt with a boy at work and accidentally concussed him. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:58:07 My mom caught me practicing kissing with an Abercrombie and Fitz shopping bag. What? Talking on the phone while asking Target employees to help me find my lost phone. Yes. I'm a 37-year-old woman and I shit in my car in a takeout container at a red light last week. Last week. Yes. So good.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Opened my Mac in front of my date and it was a. How to have lesbian sex YouTube to be out. A male co-worker came upon me while I was masturbating in a work vehicle. Oh, that's hard day. I pooped my pants during a job interview. I didn't get the job. I saluted my boss's bosses after they observed me. I am not in the military.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Until college, I thought a brothel was a potluck. I learned when I offered to host a brothel. I was having sex for the first time and he pulled a piece of toilet paper out of my butt. Oh, love bugs. Ooh. All right. I want to say this. I feel two things.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I feel that for me, the experiment has worked. I feel closer to everybody. Every single woman who has shared their stories here. What about this woman? Yes, to you also. What about can we fart now? I think we should talk about it another time. Okay, I just want to open the farting floodgates and then if not now, when? If not who you.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Okay. I do want to suggest one thing for our next right thing. Fart. I feel strongly about M's response when the guards asked her what her strap on was. Her whole response, the squaring of her. shoulders, the looking those men in the eye, the saying, yes, that is a prosthetic penis. And so I think we were just talking about how there's a silence after every mortifying moment. And I think it could be a forever kind of mocking J.S. bat signal for the pod squad that whenever we get to the end of a mortifying moment, we'd just say in that moment no matter what it's about, why, yes, that is a prosthetic
Starting point is 01:00:28 penis. That's good. So just start saying that. If it's a mortifying moment, do you know what I mean? I think that's how we get out of it. That's the language we have now that we didn't have before. Well, thank God. Yeah, we've got it. I just can't wait to do it now. I know, right? Aren't you almost hoping to be mortified so you can say it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you are now part of the Mortification Club. Also, I seriously, we haven't talked about this, but I think we should keep collecting these stories over time. I agree. When something mortifying happens, you please call it in. I think we should do one of these shows every six months. Agreed. It's just good for the soul. Well, it's fun for us, too. Like, we've laughed so much over
Starting point is 01:01:03 the last couple of days. And I think for us, we needed this. Like, fuck, this world, like, we needed this big time. Yeah, we need to laugh. And I do want to say, I just, let's just start with one fart and see how it goes. Can I do it now? No. We're on the air. So here we go. We're ending the show. We love you forever. And we'll see you here next time. And I'm working on my shit. I don't want anything. anyone to be mad at me or write me mean letters. I know that it's not right and I'm working on it. I'm just what I am. Okay? I love you. God bless you. Why, yes, it is a prosthetic penis. Send us your mortifying story. It's part of the revolution of normalization. It is 747-200 5307. That's mortification at 747-200-5307.
Starting point is 01:01:56 It vibrates. And don't send us your actual prosthetic penis. We already have some. That is just a general term we are using for mortification. Love you. Mean it. Bye. We Can Do Hard Things is an independent production brought to you by Treat Media.
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