We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle - Our New Book & Tour! The Secret’s Out (password for tour in pod)!

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

392. Our New Book & Tour! The Secret’s Out (password for tour in pod)! Today is a huge day for the We Can Do Hard Things Pod Squad! Abby, Amanda, and Glennon wrote a new book – We Can Do Hard Th...ings: Answers to Life’s 20 Questions.   Please pre-order the book now wherever you buy books or at treatmedia.com! Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are also going on tour for the very first time together! Come, please. Bring a friend. This is what’s needed right now— to gather together—to be in the same room, to celebrate, to truth tell, to comfort each other, to create an evening full of joy, compassion and connection.   They have ensured that you get the chance to get tickets before the tour goes on sale publicly, so please secure your seats today using the password/code thetour at treatmedia.com.   Click this link and use password/code: thetour *the password/code “thetour” is case sensitive, so please type it in all lowercase, no spaces* To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As the weather warms up and spring is in the air, it's the perfect time to escape the usual routine and take a refreshing getaway. I recently discovered how special a spring retreat can be when I book an Airbnb instead of a hotel. We found a peaceful cottage, so cute, tucked away in the countryside, surrounded by so many blooming flowers
Starting point is 00:00:21 and the sound of birds chirping. It was exactly what we needed. A quiet little escape with all the comforts of home. We had the whole place to ourselves with plenty of space to cook breakfast and enjoy meals at our own pace. Unwind with a good book and a cozy corner and even step outside to relax on the porch.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Whether you're with family, friends or flying solo, Airbnb gives you the home away from home experience with the space and freedom to truly relax. If you're looking for your own spring retreat, Airbnb has the perfect spot waiting for you. ["Spring Retreat"] Who is excited? I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and I think I like it. I do think I like it too. And I haven't been this excited in a long time. Years. Why are we excited? Tell the good people while we're excited. Okay. You haven't been this excited for this long.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I have never kept a secret for this long. I am not a secret keeper. I am a truth teller, and I have been harboring this very exciting secret for so long. And today we get to tell you first, sweet pod squad, we have written a new book. Amanda and Abby and I have written a new book which we have been secretly and diligently and very excitedly working on for years. Yeah. The book is called, We Can Do Hard Things.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh my God! It's happening! The subtitle is, Answers to Life's 20 Questions. Okay, we're going to spend this hour telling you the beautiful story of how this book has come together and why I believe that this is the book that will make the biggest impact on the world that I've ever released. I believe that with my whole being. Before we get into all of that, we're going to tell you,
Starting point is 00:02:32 it would mean a lot to us if you would pre-order this book right now. There are many reasons why pre-orders actually matter in a big way to authors, and I have told you that a million times before when I've asked you to pre-order my friend's books. Today, I'm asking you to take a moment and pre-order We Can Do Hard Things, Answers to Life's 20 Questions by Glennon Doyle and Amanda Doyle and Abby Wambach. You guys, I'm so excited because I am on the cover
Starting point is 00:03:07 with Amanda Doyle and my wife, Glennon Doyle. Like we are co-authors of something. Yeah. Do you have any idea how fucking awesome that is for me? I just cannot believe this is happening. I know. It's finally happening. So it means a lot to authors for many reasons.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Please, if you can, you can pre-order this book right now anywhere where you buy your books. Simple, simple, simple. Just go to wherever you buy books and press Pre-Order. Or you can go to treatmedia.com, T-R-E-A-T media.com, and find all the links to preorder. I'll tell you what the hell treatmedia.com is another time. That's a whole nother huge situation.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Today we're gonna focus on we can do hard things, answers to life's 20 questions, which is our big, beautiful guidebook for being alive that will be in your hands in May. Okay? The release day is May 6th, but you can pre-order now. Please pre-order the book today. Pre-orders help us so much. There is a second thing I have to tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:28 This is why it's so exciting because it's not just one surprise. It's two! Because I so believe in the sort of life-saving power of this book. And this community. And because of this very interesting moment we're in in this country and world we have decided to hit the road to take this beautiful book and this beautiful message on tour to your cities to gather, to be in the same room together, to celebrate, to truth tell, to comfort each other, to create an evening just full of hope and joy and unity. So, Sissy, can you tell them what they're supposed to do about the tour?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because what's going to happen is what always happens, which is probably this is going to sell out fast, and then people are going to be sad that the tickets are gone. Can you tell them, Amanda, how to get tickets now first? Yeah. And how we are trying to do our best to protect them from the people who gather up all the tickets and then jack up the prices. Absolutely. Okay. So yes, thrilling, thrilling. The first time ever that the three of us will be on tour together. And it's just so exciting. I can't wait. Can't wait to see y'all there. So right now the only people who can actually buy tickets to the tour are the people who
Starting point is 00:06:09 are part of Glennon's newsletter community and part of this pod squad. I'm going to walk you exactly through how you do it. So you can pause and come back, but we just want you to hear this because this is to make sure that this community gets access to the seats first and to make sure, as Glennon said, that we protect this community from aftermarket secondhand price gouging situations where the prices go way up because we're really trying to make the seats in these awesome venues be as affordable as possible in those venues. So here's what we do. If you're signed up for the newsletter, you already have that code in your
Starting point is 00:06:52 inbox. So look for Glennon's newsletter, a little treat, and the code will be there and the links to buy will be there. So if you already have the newsletter, you can follow these directions, but it's already in your inbox. If you are not part of the newsletter, first of all, you better get yourself on the newsletter. Second of all, you want to go to treatmedia.com. There will be a place at the top where you can preorder your book and right under that is a place where you're going to get your tickets. The book and the tickets are being sold separately. So when you get to the place where the tour dates are, you find the city you want and
Starting point is 00:07:39 you click on it and it's going to ask you for a code. This is the code. The code is the tour. We're trying to be really sneaky with that. The code is the tour. It's T-H-E-T-O-U-R. There's no spaces, it's all lowercase, it's case sensitive. So just all lowercase, the tour, no spaces.
Starting point is 00:08:00 That's the whole ball game. We have until Wednesday around noon where the pre-sale goes on, but this is for the pod squad and the newsletter to have early access. So do it now before Wednesday because you are the most important people to us. So yeah, treatmedia.com. Find your city, put in code the tour, and if your city isn't there, come visit. If not, hopefully, maybe, hopefully we don't know, maybe we'll come back around.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Wouldn't that be fun? We're gonna tell you the whole story of how this beautiful life guidebook, this beautiful book came together. But first, what I'd like to ask you to do. If you're a listener of this pod, if my work has meant something to you in the past, if you believe in our work and you want it to continue, here's where I ask you to do something. Please pre-order We Can Do Hard Things, Answers to life's 20 questions. Pre-orders matter. Pre-order
Starting point is 00:09:06 this book right now anywhere where you buy your books. Simple, simple, simple. Just go to wherever you buy books and press pre-order. Or you can go to TREATMedia, T-R-E-A-T-M-E-D-I-A.com. TREATMedia is a place we're going to be keeping all the information you need about this book, about this tour, about the community. So pre-order the book today, wherever you order books, or go to Treat Media for all the links in one place. So for those who live maybe in the Midwest or up north, like in in Rochester where we say the word tour differently. I just want to make sure that I'm saying it right for all the people so that they know
Starting point is 00:09:51 what the code is. Baby, tell them how you say tour. Tell them your way of saying tour. Tour. It's tour. And that's what I'm going to die by. Okay. So that's what we're going to brand it.
Starting point is 00:10:02 We can do our things that tour. Yeah, the tour. Welcome. can do our things that tour. Yeah the tour Welcome come visit us on the tour So if you want to order your tickets, you have to put in the code the tour the tour So some people might write T O R E for the tour But that's not it. Oh, I see. Okay. So what you're saying is if the word is spelled T O R E it's tour and if the word is spelled T-O-R-E, it's tour, and if the word is spelled T-O-U-R, it's tour.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So for example, that would mean, how many stops are we making? One, two, three, four. Okay. So I just wanted to say it's the tour or the tour, but it's spelled T-H-E-T-O-U-R. That's the code in order to get your tickets for the tour. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Let's tell our beautiful people how and why and what this gorgeous book is. Why don't you start with just how the hell it all started? Yeah. Tell that part. OK. First, we have to tell them my life affliction, which I have spent my whole life thinking
Starting point is 00:11:15 was only my life affliction. And now I know it's a lot of people's because of the process of writing this book, which is that the amount of times I've sat with Abby and said, why every day of my life do I feel like I'm Dory from Nemo, right? I feel like every single day of my life, since I have had consciousness, I am faced with the exact same issues, the exact same questions over and over and over again every single day. Why am I like this? How do I figure out what I want? How do I know what to do? How
Starting point is 00:11:52 do I make peace with my body? Why can't I be happy? Am I doing any of this right? What is the point? These are the questions I face every single day and every day. I just blink at these questions as if I am brand new here, as if I have never learned a damn thing. I am freshly clueless every single morning and I think to myself, I am almost 50 years old, I know that I have learned a whole hell of a lot along the way. Why do I wake up every day having forgotten everything I know?
Starting point is 00:12:30 It's like a really, really bad system. So all I end up doing is just facing every effing problem in my life as if it's the first time I've ever faced it. I just have to learn everything the hard way over and over again. Just keep swimming, just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. And what I really want is to stop learning things the hard way. I just want to remember things an easy way. Okay? I want to remember things that I know. And you both know I have sort of glossed this
Starting point is 00:13:01 phenomenon into calling it beginner's mind. I just say, I have beginner's mind. But what that means is I can't remember shit. I know I learned this already, but I guess I'll learn it freshly. When we wake up clueless and afraid, the three of us have sort of turned out to be each other's compasses, right? We check in with each other, we help each other
Starting point is 00:13:20 remember what we know, we are each other's mirrors. As this pod squad knows, all in the span of one year, the three of us hit a really bumpy spot in life all at the same time. Okay, I was diagnosed with anorexia, Amanda was diagnosed with breast cancer, and Abby lost her beloved brother, Peter. All of this happened right around the same time. breast cancer, and Abby lost her beloved brother, Peter.
Starting point is 00:13:45 All of this happened right around the same time. I mean, as many of you know, the harder life gets, the more clueless we feel. Now, I'm just gonna repeat that as another part of this very bad system. That the harder life gets, the more clueless we feel. The harder life gets, the harder it is to remember what we know, to gather the wisdom that we need to enter that hard time. When we need it the most, all our wisdom is gone.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And we learned that together. We would just sit with each other and just stare at each other and say, how do we go on? What do we do next? What is the point of all of this? And so what did we do during that time? We started writing down every single bit of wisdom we could remember.
Starting point is 00:14:49 We started having deep, deep conversations with each other, asking these questions of each other, conjuring up every glimmer of wisdom, every treasure that we remember learning that would help us through this time in life. And then when we had mined each other for every bit of wisdom we knew, we turned outward and we started asking people on this podcast, the most brilliant, beautiful, wise guides, we trust the same questions. We asked them for the wisdom that they had gathered along the roads that they'd walked. We asked people, our friends in
Starting point is 00:15:29 emails, we asked people in frantic texts in the first thing in the morning and last thing at night. And we did this, Pod Squad, the wild thing is we just did this for ourselves. And Abby would be like, I feel like that episode we did with So-and-so, and she would just listen to it and come back from rocks and be like, I feel like that episode we did with So and So, and she would just listen to it and come back from her walks and be like, I just re listened to that episode we did to try to figure out the hell's going on. Like, how can I forget? I was present for the freaking conversation. I was there. Yeah, but we'd have to write it down because we'd be like, yeah, we forgot that thing. That was really super smart that that person said. Yeah. But isn't that what happens?
Starting point is 00:16:05 I just want to take a moment and say that sounds wild, but that is what happens. When I feel lost and clueless because I'm facing some part of my life that feels unprecedented because everything always feels unprecedented to me, even though everything is precedented as shit. I've been through all of it already. Mm-hmm. We turn to our friends and books and podcasts, and we turn towards people who save our lives with something that they say. I mean, how many moments have we had in this space,
Starting point is 00:16:37 on this podcast, on couches with each other, on phone calls with friends where we say, I'm lost. And our friend says something that saves our life in the moment and reminds us of who we are and reminds us of what we know. And it's like a flashlight that helps us step into the next thing. And then it's freaking gone. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:01 That's the thing about podcasting and conversations that are the hardest for me. Because I'll be walking and I'm an avid podcast listener and somebody will say something and I'm like damn that's so good. And I just keep walking. Yes. And it's like gone. It just keeps walking right out of your head. It's gone. Yeah. And that's why this book is so profound to me because it's all of the juiciest, good, golden nuggets in one place. Yeah, I mean, we realized we are constantly turning to each other and friends and podcasts and books to save us. And there's just a time where you also need it all in one place so you can save yourself. You just need every bit of it. We were talking about how when you go to a new country, you need a guide. People take with them something that is a guidebook that is made up of tips and wisdom and things to see and things to not miss and things to concentrate on and beauty of that
Starting point is 00:18:06 place. And it is made up by people who have been there, who have been there and who have walked those roads. And if you go to that new country without that guide, you will miss a ton. And you will not know how to make your way through that place as well as you would have if you had the guide. And we wanted that for life. We wanted a guidebook that when we entered new spaces that felt new, grief, loss, parenthood, love, joy, all of those, the roads that we walk onto each day, we wanted a guidebook made up of tips and wisdom
Starting point is 00:18:45 from people who had walked those streets. And by the way, sometimes it were us. We were the people who have walked those streets. We needed the wisdom we had collected the last time we were on that road. We wanted it all in one place. We wanted a guidebook for life. And we are the people to have written that
Starting point is 00:19:01 because on this podcast and outside of this podcast, we have been so lucky to learn from each other and to learn from the wisest, most brilliant, bravest people who have walked this planet. And so what we did is we created a guidebook for life divided into the biggest, most beautiful, juicy questions that every single one of us asks themselves each day. And then we collected every glimmer of story, idea, wisdom, tip that had been collected by us and by other wise guides who have traveled that road before. Because listen, when life gets hard, which is most days, right?
Starting point is 00:19:51 When life gets hard, which is as soon as you open your eyes. Yeah. The most important thing to do is to remember. We have to remember what we know. We have to remember what we know. We have to remember what we have learned along the way. We also have to remember the other thing that remember means. Remember means to recall what we've already learned. But it also means to come back together.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Remember is the opposite of dismember, right? It's like, yes, we can make it through by remembering what we have learned personally, but we also make it through by coming back together with other people and saying, tell me what you know. Inside this book is a remembering of everything that we know, and it's also a remembering of everything that the wisest people that we know have taught us.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yes, and it's a remembering of who we are individually and a remembering of who we are together. You know, the stories that Abby tells, I would never have experienced those things in my whole life. A whole different experience. But when I read her stories in the book, there is a truth in her story that I'm like, oh, that's like me. Yes. Even though the details are totally different or it's a remembering of who we are at the deepest sense and what on earth it is we're doing when we're doing all the things that we're doing down here. Yeah. The Dory from Nemo feeling is that everything feels brand new. Every time a hard thing arises, it feels unprecedented, right?
Starting point is 00:21:56 But there is nothing that you are walking through that someone else has not walked through. That's right. You are never alone as alone. Life is wild because we walk it alone, but we walk it alone together, right? Whatever road you're walking right now, grief, horrific loss, problems in relationships, the state of the world, you're walking it alone,
Starting point is 00:22:27 but alongside a million other people who have tips to help your journey. You are never doing it alone. That's the we. If it was, I can do hard things, I would never, I wouldn't be no. The we. Yeah. Super, super important.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Shared responsibility. And I think something around what we've done with this podcast and with the conversations we've had with each other and our friends, we realized we're just kind of all circling around the same 20 questions, you know? And I think that that's something that's so beautiful about this book because the truth is I really do want to understand more of why am I like this or who am I really? Do we really ever spend quality time thinking about the question beneath the problem or the hard thing that's happening. Because I think that that's where so much of our suffering lies is that we don't know that we're actually asking ourselves a much deeper more important question than the problem or the hard
Starting point is 00:23:36 thing that's happening in our life. Let's tell them the questions. Let's tell them the 20 questions. Yeah. First of all, I want to say that we were all keeping this sort of personal survival guide for ourselves. It was for me and Abby and Amanda during that time. You know how you write down things for your friend that quotes that you think will help them. We were creating this sort of treasure chest. It's like a communal journal. Yes, a communal journal. That's a good way of saying it. When the three of us were actually in crisis together at the same time about different things. We're like, well, we're fucked because usually one of us is doing okay.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Exactly. This is a real problem. Well, it kind of was like that, right? Because we're used to one of us being steady while the other two are losing it. And then that person can kind of guide us. But when we all lost it, we needed some outward source of truth. Yeah. We can't ask each other. so let's ask the words.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. What do the words say? We had lost sort of a compass, so we needed a map. Right? We needed something outside of ourselves. That's good. And so we kept this communal, between the three of us, journal until one day, one of us, I don't remember who it was, said,
Starting point is 00:24:45 this has to be for everybody. This is so freaking good. We can do hard things. It's a guidebook for being alive. And the wild thing that we learned during the creation of the communal journal was that we seem to just ask ourselves, the three of us, the same 20 questions every single day, over and over again, repeat forever for our entire life. Now, the really cool thing is we thought that that was just us, but the more we asked all of the beautiful guides on this podcast, we discovered they too
Starting point is 00:25:23 asked themselves some versions of these exact same 20 human questions in a million different ways every day. And so the cool thing about that, y'all, is that we figured out, okay then, if we can organize this book into those questions, this guidebook for life into those 20 questions, then we have ourselves a source to go back to no matter what we're spiraling around every single day. We have a gift to give our friends that they can come
Starting point is 00:25:55 back to throughout their day no matter what they're spiraling around. We have a gift we can give our kids to say this is what life is going to feel like and here's how to find yourself no matter what you're spiraling around. And the beauty of that is I feel like so much of our shame and fear comes from this place of thinking that we're the only ones struggling with this thing. Even before we get to the fact of like, how do we stop struggling from this thing? We're in a place of feeling shame and fear that it's just that we're totally messed up and broken that we're even asking this question.
Starting point is 00:26:41 So for me, when I see you two struggling with the same thing and admitting it and the people that I respect the most in the world naming the thing for them that they're struggling with, it's not just that they're telling me how they got through it or what they learned. Half of it is just being like, you too? You for real? This person that I thought would have it figured out. That is a huge part of this is just the kind of universality of like, oh, it's not that there's something wrong with me that I'm asking this. Maybe it's that this is part of being human to struggle with this thing. And the other part of being human is to struggle together in a way where we can use each other as lighthouses through it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And so that has been a really beautiful part of this journey for us. Yeah. It's like we thought that the fact that we spiraled around these questions every day meant that we were doing life wrong. And what we realized is that the fact that we spiral around these questions each day just means we're doing life. Right? This is it. This is it. Good news, bad news, y'all. This is it. The good news is it's not you, it's life.
Starting point is 00:28:05 The other good news is, wow are these beautiful, beautiful stories that help us feel less alone and find our way. And to me, it is so grounding reading it. I've gone back and read it, seriously flipped to chapters like six times in the past two months where I have felt like in a parenting thing where if I'm like, oh God, suddenly I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And it feels chaotic and I feel scared. I've gone back to reread our own chapter on parenting and felt like, okay, I feel grounded now. Now I know what it is I'm doing here. Yeah. You remembered what you knew. And I have never in the history of my writing career ever looked at a book that I've written Ever I've never picked up carry on warrior. I've never picked up love warrior. I've never picked up untamed when I'm done. That's it It's like looking at an old yearbook picture for me. I don't ever want to see it again You're missing out. I've heard they're good. I've heard they're fine. Now. Listen, I've read them seven trillion times before they go into print
Starting point is 00:29:02 Of course this book I have opened maybe, I don't know, I'm trying not to exaggerate, at least twice a day. It's wild. Wow. Like I'm using it to remember. It's so grounding. It gives me hope. It feels like it makes the chaos of life feel absolutely un-chaotic. It just makes things feel clear. So here's some of
Starting point is 00:29:31 these questions. If you find yourself in any of these questions, just take note. Are these any of the swirling questions in your brain? Why am I like this? Who am I really? How do I know when I've lost myself? How do I return to myself? How do I figure out what I want? How do I know what to do? How do I do the hard thing? Oh, that's such a good chapter. That's my favorite chapter. How do I let go? How do I go on? How do I make peace with my body? How do I make and keep good friends? How do I love my person?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Sex. Am I doing this right? That's going to be, I think, a popular chapter for our people. Parenting. Am I doing this right? Ha ha ha ha. You should know, Pod Squad, that the working titles we had for those chapters for about a solid year was just sex colon WTF.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah. Parenting colon WTF. So we just softened it to am I doing this right. That's good. But as you read it, no, WTF. That's the real question. What the fuck? Why can't I be happy? Why am I so angry? How do I forgive?
Starting point is 00:31:18 How do I get unstuck? How do I feel better right now? And what is the point? Okay. I want you to know that probably about three quarters of the way through the creation of this book, I think Amanda was right about to go into her double mastectomy. Abby was just buried in grief. I was so just stunned with confusion and stress and overwhelm. And I wrote to Valerie and Allison and said, it has to stop. I can't do it. I cannot.
Starting point is 00:32:02 It's, I know we can do hard things, but everything is too hard. And I don't think that we can finish this project. Like it has to go on hold. And Valerie and Alison are on our team, just so the folks know. And a few hours later, Valerie wrote me an email back. And I want to read it to you because it's one of the reasons why you're hearing this message and this book is actually going out into the world in May. Here's what Valerie wrote back. I understand. If you ever want to begin again, know this.
Starting point is 00:32:35 This book is it. This is the life guide I want to hand to my daughter, to help her make sense of her life, her people, and her world, to help her make sense of her life, her people, and her world, to remind her that she already has all the wisdom she needs inside of her, to help make this hard, beautiful life just a little bit easier for her. This book is the guidebook for life I want to leave her with so that she remembers she can always find her own way.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Because that is what this book has done for me. So y'all, I received that email and then spent a few nights with my eyes open wide staring at the ceiling because I knew that that was true. I knew that this was also the book that I want to leave my kids. I wanted to leave it to them. I want to give it to everyone I know because life is so hard. But the good news is we don't have to do it alone and we don't have to do it freshly every morning and we don't have to figure it out by ourselves. That there is so much help and wisdom and clarity out there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And now we've gathered it all up. And it's right inside this book. And I've never been so certain that a book is going to serve this gorgeous world that I love more. I think one of the things that I feel, especially now in the time that we're in, we talk about this book being the great connector, knowing that other people are going through similar things that you are. Me too, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Oh my gosh, I can't believe that they're writing this. This is a love letter to every one of us. That's why the tour or tour is going to be so fucking beautiful because we are going to be together in theaters around this country to be able to actually feel the experience of what it is to do life together, what it is to be wondering and spiraling around these questions that we're all having. Maybe this book can be your guide. I know it is for me.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I know it's been for you, Glennon, and you, Amanda. And honestly, I've done a lot of really, I would say impressive things in my life. And I'm certain that this is a thing that I feel absolutely the most proud of myself for. 100% because it's like, and this is like, makes me feel a little bit emotional. As a soccer player, I was so one-dimensional in so much of myself. And the past 10 years since retiring has gotten me to this place, to this moment. This book has been co-authored with my two best friends. And it's been made out of love and desire and grief and this excavation.
Starting point is 00:36:03 This podcast and this community and the pod squad. I feel like we've gone on a journey together, but it's kind of been in the ether in a way. It's been like, where is it? Where do we live? Yeah. So here- Can't hold it and touch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And this is the best we've got, the best we've been through on our journey holding and touching and being able to come back to. And babe, can I say one thing about why I think it makes you so emotional because it has made you very emotional every time we talk about it. My guess is in soccer, you were just like admired for this shiny version of yourself that was very, you felt it was a bit talent based. It was a little superficial.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It wasn't your full self. And now on this podcast and in the book, it's like your insides are out. You're showing people who you really are and being seen. This is why people love to write. You're being seen for who you really are on the inside, which makes you feel known. Yes, but it's also an offering,
Starting point is 00:37:04 because I don't think this is just about me, you, and Amanda. This is all of our stories. This is the map. This is what we get to hand to ourselves. I needed this book more than anything for myself. Yeah. You know, so many people have said, what are we going to do? This is such a hard time. And it is a hard time. I don't know. I don't have all the answers. I have an answer.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I know what we're going to do during this hard time is we're going to remember. We're going to remember what we know in this book, and we're going to remember as a group, meaning we're going to come together. So go pre-order the book, please. I'm asking you to do that. And then we're going to remember in person. Okay, we're going to
Starting point is 00:37:46 come back together as a community, we're going to be in the same room, and we're going to get through this hard time together. So is there anything else that you two want to add before we sign off and ask these people to do what we need them to do next? Well, I think if you've had any takeaway, if you've been walking on the street and you've been listening to this podcast and you've had moments,
Starting point is 00:38:16 because I know that this happens in the conversations that we have, you have moments where you're like, oh my gosh, it's so amazing. And then you forget to write it down or you're in a conversation with your friend. This happens to us all the time. We're in a conversation and they say something
Starting point is 00:38:31 that changes our life. But you don't wanna break up the conversation and be the nerd that pulls out a notebook or your phone and writes it down. We've done it for you. This is a book for you, your friends, your children, for your people to do life with. For me, this is the greatest gift that I feel like we've done to give to ourselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 To the three of us. And also I want to say this, there's nobody on the planet that loves to be on tour more than this kid. I know, my god. on the planet that loves to be on tour more than this kid. I know, my God. And I am so excited to get on stage with the two of you. I'm so excited to like see the pod squad in real life. We're gonna have a blast. It's gonna be so fun.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Pre-order the book, buy the tickets, code the tour. Anything else, Sissy? It just feels like a great, great honor and delight to have been part of this community with all of you listening who have made this podcast, with all of you listening who have made this podcast, not a podcast, but a real community of like-hearted, curious, swirling, loving people. It's a really special place and special group,
Starting point is 00:40:03 and it's a really special set of wayfinders that we have in this book, that it just feels like the power of community, like the power of community of this podcast community, the power of community of the thinkers and the writers and the swirlers that are also featured in this book. It's like probably 60 to 70 percent are stories, but we felt it was important and we're honored to include a portion of this book for the people who have changed our lives and saved our lives and the wisdom they have and the different experiences they have and the way their lives might intersect with yours. And a lot of those people are folks you've heard from on this pod and they have shared their stories so generously and that feels like the power of community.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And it just feels like in this moment where it's a really frankly scary moment to be alive and to know what we should be doing and to know how to make an impact toward good and away from what feels like a very scary, bad future for our people. There is something about the messages in this book and the community aspect of this book that feel really strong for me and really important for me because it is about struggling and getting through struggling and how to navigate your way through that and how to have ground beneath your feet as you do it. And it is also very much about finding and claiming joy
Starting point is 00:41:59 and ease and your birthright of peace and sexuality and connection and friendship and sisterhood. And I really do believe that is so important right now in this moment. That there's a lot less to fight for. And if you are living according to your birthright of joy and peace and connection, and yes, struggle, because that's your birthright too, then you are way less susceptible to what is happening in the world right now because you know who you are,
Starting point is 00:42:50 you remember, and you also remember what life is for, and you also remember what community is for, and you also remember they're worth fighting for. And so just as a really big picture thing and a super most intimate thing, I'm proud and I'm grateful. It's amazing. It's amazing to me that this is what we've been working on for years because look I don't think that a book is gonna save the world I'm not saying that but I can't believe that this is what we've been working on and
Starting point is 00:43:22 that we have this offering in this particular moment. It feels bespoke. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean less that it'll save the world and more just like if it saves you, if it helps save you, get through your days to remember who you are and remember your joy, that is the only way we're gonna save the world. That's right. Yes, you save the world, you can save, as Mary Oliver used to say, yeah. So I'm thankful and I'm so excited to go
Starting point is 00:43:56 hit the road with you and see all of our people. I mean, you haven't been on the road for five years, Glenn, and we've never done it together and it's been great. And we'll keep showing up here with you together. Yeah and I'm not afraid or ashamed to say that parts of this are really a two-way street right that like if this is something that you want to go on if this is important to you we actually need you to do your thing we're gonna do our thing and show up for tour.
Starting point is 00:44:25 We're going to put this book out. We need you to vote for that by doing your part today, which is pre-ordering the book. It means everything for many different reasons that I've explained before and I can in the future. It matters that there are pre-orders that say the world cares about this book and the world wants more of it. So please pre-order the book today.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And if you want to come see us on tour, get those tickets today because they'll go fast. We love you. Hold on. Just before in case you're about to like you wanted to listen to the whole podcast, go to treatmedia.com, T-R-E-A-T-M-E-D-I-A.com, to pre-order the book and also to get your tickets for the tour, the code is the tour, T-H-E-T-O-U-R. All lowercase, no spaces. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And if you don't want to do that, you can pre-order the book wherever books are sold. We love you. We can't believe we are going to go on this ride together. There's nobody else we'd rather go on it with than you, Pod Squad. And shout out before we end to Allison, who we could have, we would be doing none of this, who's been with us since the very beginning. Without her, none of this podcast happens,
Starting point is 00:45:52 none of the book happens. The book is just dripping with her, with Allison. Thank you, Allison. Can we bring her on stage for one of the events? Of course we will. We're gonna force you to do that, Allison. And in addition to Allison, shout out to Valerie and Annie and Audrey,
Starting point is 00:46:10 who have also been just unbelievably wise and fun collaborators on this book. We love you so much. The best cheers. We're so grateful. We'll see you on tour. Go pre-order the book. Bye bye.
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