We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle - Start a Daily Delights Practice with Abby, Glennon & Amanda! (Best Of)

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Glennon’s hilarious misunderstanding with a TSA agent she’ll remember 'til she dies; Amma’s delightful response when Abby rushed onto the soccer field; and the delight Amanda experienced the day... she switched it all up by not freaking out. This episode was inspired by our conversation with Ross Gay – if you missed it, check out: Episode 216 How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:23 We rolled the dice one last time. Landman, new series now streaming exclusively on Paramount+. Hello, loves. Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. I think that you are going to find today's show a delight. And that is because your little team here of Amanda, Abby, and me decided that we're always trying to find ways to make life a little easier, a little better, a little juicier, a little better, a little juicier, a little more beautiful. And we thought, well, after last episode with Rasque about the power of delight and joy
Starting point is 00:01:11 and gratitude in our lives, go listen to it if you have not. We decided we could keep working hard to add beautiful things to our life, or we could just notice more the beauty that is already in our lives. We could just pay closer or different kind of attention to the things in our lives that cause us spontaneous delight. We did that, y'all. We have done the homework. We have concentrated day in and day out for the last several days. To day in and day out for three consecutive days.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Well, it was hard. It's fucking hard. Look for joy. All right. I'm so glad it's over. I'm exhausted. I'm so glad it's over. I am delight exhausted. I'm so glad it's over. I could get back on my wah wah train.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Exactly. Do you? No, actually it's been, look Abby's looking at us like we're nuts because she is delightful. And she- Yeah, she is. Yes, and she has loved this exercise, right? Yeah, it's so wonderful.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yes. I feel like people in the world are continuingly putting in our lap that we just have to follow this methodology of joy, go towards delight. And to me, it was just like so fun. Yeah, to you, it was just like life. I was just living. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So I'm so excited to talk about these things because I'm joking a little bit. Actually, I agree. It's the idea of what you seek, you shall find. Right? If you are out looking for what to be delighted or what to be grateful for, that is what you see. And if you're out there looking for things to be pissed off about, that is what you find.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's right. Roske says that the more you study delights, the more the delights there are to study. Yes. That is why I think everyone is out there pushing the whole gratitude journal dogma. Because it's that the more you study it, the more there is to study.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's not like it's actually adding different things. It's just the noticing of the things that are already there. Yes. I don't know if I've told this story before. If I have just, oh well. So when one of my kids decided he wanted to get on Instagram, and so we were like, okay, well, why do you want to get on Instagram?
Starting point is 00:03:46 He said he takes, he loved taking pictures, okay. Well, that's actually a good reason. Like you want to get on there, put your art on there, that's cool. But what he noticed, and we talked about a lot, is that the beauty of being a photographer, being a writer, being a gratitude noticer, being a joy seeker, is
Starting point is 00:04:05 not like the time that you sit down and write in your journal. That's not the benefit of it. The benefit of it is the rest of the day. Okay? So if you are a photographer and you're out there looking for beauty to snap, then your morning, noon, night, everything, a walk becomes a search for beauty. walk becomes a search for beauty. Everything becomes a search for beauty. And so your life changes because of what you're looking for, not because of the end result. So this is why pod squatters, we feel like this is an important concept for adding, for having more aliveness, more joy.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It costs nothing. This is maybe why the wellness industry isn't selling it hard because it can't be sold. It's nothing you have- Except for the gratitude journals. Right, right, which by the way, PS, if you, I have a journal on the market. It's lovely. I also know that just a piece of paper works, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Just the voice app, piece of paper. That could also be a gratitude journal. Okay. So, can we talk, you three, about the specific delights that we identified in our lives? I would like to suggest... But... Yes, Katie.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yes, of course. I would actually like to go around and figure out from the three of us how you, your body actually experiences a delight, like the physiology or the emotion or the feeling or the reaction. I want to give the pod squad a V of like a vivid picture of like, when we tell these stories, what we would look like. This is an iconic tripod moment, I believe, because we know if we are Abby's body,
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm Spirit and Sister's mind, Abby wants to know how delight is experienced in the body, which is very cool. Yeah. I feel juicy. Oh! Okay. Juicy.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Look it, she's so proud of herself. I know. I know, I came up with a thing that's actually a body thing. And I feel. I know I came up with a thing that's actually a body thing. And I feel like I have caught myself in a moment. Yes. Yeah. I'm like, you just saw a present that was hiding for you.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And you just saw it. Yes. OK, so it's a double delight, right? Because, all right, say you see like a dog. Most of my delights are just dogs. Spoiler alert. Okay. But say you see a dog. Like say, for example, you see a dog that has slippers on.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Okay. You feel delight in your body because you're seeing a dog that has slippers. The dog is delightful, but you are also simultaneously delighted about yourself, because you are capable of being delighted. You're full of joy that you are not a robot and that you are a precious little thing that's being so delighted by this other thing, right? You're a juicy little sucker who didn't miss the opportunity to just revel in a slippery dog. Yeah. It's good. How do you feel babe? Well, I have a little
Starting point is 00:07:13 bit, I just thought of this, you know, the famous line from Alice Walker's The Color Purple where she said, I think it pisses God off when people walk by purple and don't notice it. I am so weird and superstitious that every time I see something purple, I'm like, noticed! Got it! Noticed! It feels at the same time, like a bit of a rising inside of me, like a little bit like, like I'm going up on a roller coaster or something,
Starting point is 00:07:40 like a lift, feels like a lift. And then it also feels like a sinking into the truth. It feels like everything's a distraction except for this one thing. And then I see it and it's like entering a portal. In some spiritual traditions, they call it the thin places. And it's like the thin place is the place that is right. It's like the thin place is the place that is right. It's like the veil. It's right between this material existence that we live in and the other one.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And the thin place is where you can get a little glimpse of the other side. So it feels a little bit lifty in my body and then sinky spiritually. Wow. That's amazing. You want to know what mine is? Yes. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I like your stats. Do it again. Do it again for those who were used to 1,400 word answers like ours. Do it again. How does it feel for you Abby? It just goes, ooh. Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know, they say if you can say it shorter, you should say it shorter and you did. You nailed it baby. I mean, I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong. I just think that that's what comes into my whole being. And I know that chemically, I know dopamine, I know all that stuff, but it just feels like, whoo! Yeah. There it is. Yeah. And also it reminds me of the life is forever tries because sometimes you can be like, I went through this whole day and didn't access any delight
Starting point is 00:09:11 and damn it, I missed it all. But really when you're talking about that color purple quote, the rest of the quote is the part that I love because it's, I think it pisses God off when you walk by the color purple in a field somewhere and don't notice it. And then she says back, what does it do when it pissed off? Oh, it makes something else.
Starting point is 00:09:31 People think pleasing God is all God cares about, but any full living in the world can see it. It's always trying to please us back. Yeah, I say, yeah. It's always making little surprises and spraying them on us when we least expect. You mean it wants to be loved just like the Bible say? Yes, everything wants to be loved. Okay, yeah. There's just forever tries of delights just everywhere. It's not like shame on you for
Starting point is 00:09:55 missing that. It's like, catch you in the next round. There's going to be more. It's every damn thing walking around is just standing there, existing, wanting to be loved. And when you notice it and get delighted by it, it's the fulfillment of the thing. It's like, yes, see me, see me. That's what creates a connection like Roske was saying. So it's connection. It's connection. All right, sissy bear, I heard a rumor from you just now that you actually, and you've
Starting point is 00:10:29 never told me this before in the history of our lives together, but that you are so inspired by the Roske book, the book of delights, that you actually wrote a teeny essayette about a delight in your life. I'm finding this hard to believe. I am delighted by that. I'm sweating and have a red face. You do. Because I had just finished the book on this day that this thing happened and I came home and I wrote it down on a piece of paper.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So delightful. Can you please read it to us? It's so cool. Yes, we might it to us? It's so cool. Yes, we might have to cut it because I'm embarrassed about it. Well, we're not gonna cut it. I mean, unless your delight sucks, and then we'll have to. Yeah, if our delight sucks, then it goes in the sucky delight reject pile.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Okay, this says, it says at the top, Friday Daily Delight. Oh, and by the way, is there just that one? Is that it? Friday Daily Delight. Is it? That's way, is there just that one? Is that it? Friday Daily Delight. That's it. That's the only thing. It was a brief inspiration. A short, gratitude journal, as most of them are. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:32 My husband out of town and the responsibilities of getting everywhere all at one time, all on me for the four-day sprint, I managed to get myself to the school pickup line to retrieve the children in the hopes of arriving my son to his violin lesson, which is, because we are over scheduled suburban masochists, scheduled 20 minutes from the dismissal bell,
Starting point is 00:11:53 situated 20 minutes from the school. But I do it. I get there right on time. To find my kids so famished that, they strongly insist, they could not possibly wait until after the 30 minute lesson ended to eat. And so to my delight, I did not freak out. I pulled into the Dunkin Donuts, surprising myself with an acquiescence that would not have acquainted me on a rush day or any other day when I was their age. Our parents' household priding itself on
Starting point is 00:12:21 being as full of love as it was full of puritanical practicality and efficiency. We got back in the car, noting that we are now four minutes late as projected by the GPS. I then proceed to make up each and every one of those minutes on the drive. I should be embarrassed to admit, but I'm not, that besting the GPS projection by one or even three minutes is my most fail safe daily delight. Yes! Yes! The aforementioned over scheduled suburban masochist. Yes!
Starting point is 00:12:54 We pull in triumphantly at precisely the appointed time only to learn from our son's incredibly lovely, talented, if communication challenged, violin teacher that there is in fact no lesson today. And to all of our collective astonishment, I do not freak out. Instead, I take them to the Italian store around the corner where we pick up spaghetti and meatballs and at the checkout line I notice a tall rectangular red Lazarusini-rosini tin, which brought my whole body immediately to my seven-year-old self and my Aunt Peggy's house. Aunt Peggy, whose home was full
Starting point is 00:13:32 of deliciously frivolous things, like that red tin full of Amaretto cookies, like time to sew me a Queen of Hearts Halloween costume, like constant laughter that defied her two divorces, like time to learn to fly a plane like her father and pilot all over the nation with the 99ers, her woman's pilot friends, and to take us up in it so we could see the world
Starting point is 00:13:53 from an inspiringly selfish perspective of a woman who does what she wants. Her life and home so delicious, full of treats and frivolity that could not be found in our more stable but supremely practical home and pantry. And so I told the lady at the checkout how much I used to love those Italian amaretto cookies at my Aunt Peggy's.
Starting point is 00:14:13 She said, you still love them. So I bought a few wrapped in parchment paper and turned and squeezed at the edges like a bow. Later at home with an unexpected boon of 15 frivolous minutes, minutes that I didn't even need to steal from the GPS, I sent Aunt Peggy a message about the amaretto cookies, about every fanciful delicious treat I could find in her home and her life, and about how
Starting point is 00:14:36 the lady at the checkout had concurred that aunt's houses are the best houses, and how I agreed and knew that I had the best of those houses and the best of those ants. And then I ate the amaretto cookies and I still love them. What the fuck with you two and your writing? That was my sincere delight. When I saw that red tin can, I was like, oh my God, Aunt Peggy and her amaretto cookies and everything else. There's so much.
Starting point is 00:15:08 There's so much. I mean, can we just stop for just a second. And the woman at the Italian store says you still love them. Somebody in our life needs to remind us that the stuff that we used to like when we were kids, we probably still like now. And I said it like, I used to love those when I was seven. Like, isn't that silly? She was like, you still love those cookies.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You still love them. I love that. I was like, oh, my God, I wonder if I still love those cookies. And I do, by the way, still love those cookies. I ate them all. To what do you owe this uncharacteristicistic not freaking out, which led directly to all this delight? Medication?
Starting point is 00:15:51 I don't know. I think sometimes when John is out of town, I'm like, it's a wonder I'm getting through any of this. Godspeed to us all. It's like the standard has lowered or something because it's just me and we're just going to get through it and I'm just doing the best I can. Yeah. Rather than like, we got to be there and never be late and on to ta ta ta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I don't know. I totally get that. I'm not sure. Also it was a beautiful day and I had the top down and I was like, fuck it, it's Friday. Fuck it. I mean, it's so amazing how our people around us, we think we have to be so perfect and like on time and all the things. And what they want more than anything is sometimes for us just to be like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That's what they probably remember is the fuck it moments. So the Lippen, beautiful red tin cans. Hey friends, I'm Sharon McMahon, host of Here's Where It Gets Interesting. Each week I speak with authors, experts, and thought leaders on everything from American history and democracy to how to be a better person on the internet. And don't miss my extremely popular Dacu series, which educate you on things you never learned in history class. Follow and listen to Here's Where It It's interesting on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:17:27 ["Heroes Work"] ["Heroes Work"] Okay, I'll do one next. Great. Okay. So I have had a very interesting experience with the Delight project. I noticed that a lot of my delights have to do with misunderstandings with strangers,
Starting point is 00:17:55 okay? Which I have always considered annoying and strange about me, but now I'm reframing as delightful, okay? For real, for real. And I'll tell you why, because okay, so last weekend we took the little one to a soccer tournament and we had to go on a plane because that is what the soccer requires.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I have thoughts about that. Suburban masochists. Right, exactly. That's a different podcast. So we're going through TSA. Now, the TSA line is a lot of things to me. Number one, it's not my favorite place, okay? Because I don't like things that are like, go very slow, but pay attention because soon it's going to be fast.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You know, that's why the credit card machine bothers me with all the waiting and don't do it. that are like, go very slow, but pay attention because soon it's going to be fast. You know, that's why the credit card machine bothers me with all the waiting and don't do it. And then suddenly do it. And then they give you your change. You don't know what to do with the change and the lines behind you. And you just want to throw all your money
Starting point is 00:18:54 and run out of the store. The cash register, yeah. And the cash register, right. It feels like that moment, but like there's more at stake. There's people behind you. Life and death. There's cranky people. Yes, I'm like, I guess we're just all pretending
Starting point is 00:19:09 that we're not taking our shoes off and walking on this filthy, there's a lot you just have to not think about. And then the poor TSA people, I cannot imagine how much shit they deal with day in and day out, because it is a cranky making situation, which is decidedly not their fault. So, you know, it's a powder keg. And I'm just trying
Starting point is 00:19:33 to do my best. I really am. I'm trying to just not do anything that's going to make anyone's life's harder in the next few minutes, all right? So I start putting my things in all the many bins and there's this woman behind, the TSA agent behind, you know, there's the one that's like telling everybody over and over again to do the same thing, over and over again forever. It's like a mother of a toddler. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Did you brush your teeth? Did you brush your, you need to brush your of a toddler. Yes. Did you brush your teeth? Did you brush your teeth? You need to brush your teeth. Yes. Yes. So I'm just trying to not cause any problems. I'm listening to her. I'm looking at her like trying to make sure that I'm doing it right because it's different all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm about ready to walk through the thing. Over the thing, she calls to me. She makes eye contact. She calls to me and she goes, what was your last drink? Okay. I look at her, process what she's just said and I say, back to her. I don't know exactly, but I've been sober for 21 years. And it was probably like a Captain Morgan or something back then. I'm sure it was.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It was probably a Red Bull and vodka. It's probably what it was. Or a Franzia. My last drink was a box of Franzia. Anyway, she looks at me, this woman who before looked like maybe she hadn't slept for eight days, looked like she was having no funny business from anyone. She looks at me, she looks very confused for a second and then she says, I said, what was your last bin? It's all happening very fast.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Okay. And I look at her and go, Oh, yes. Yes. That makes more sense. And then she looks at me again. She goes, what was your last bin? And then she cracks up. She breaks.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And this is all happening in five seconds. She breaks character. She breaks character. She turned into her human self. Yes, and I'm telling you, she, her eyes sparkled. Her mouth got so, she cracked up. She was laughing and we didn't have any time to resolve it. I just moved right along.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I was like, I can't cause any more problems. I can't explain why I just said that. When I got to the other side, I was thinking, okay, what I thought was, I know this is ridiculous. This is even worse, but I was thinking, I know we're not supposed to bring liquids. So maybe now they're checking how far back our last drink was because we're not allowed to have liquid in our body.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You better not have an accumulation of 12 ounces of liquid in your body either. Yes, I thought it was going to be like surgery when you go in there like, when was your last meal? So that's why I was trying to explain, I'm going to be fine because it's been 20 years. So, okay. So I get to the other side. One of the girls was in front of me. So she's seen some of it. She's like, what just happened? So I explained it to her. Abby didn't see or hear any of it because she was behind me. But later when I was explaining to her what happened, she said, God, I thought that that was the happiest TSA agent I've ever seen. She was so happy. She actually noticed how happy this woman was. So my point is that I loved that moment so much and it was this moment of not stupidity,
Starting point is 00:23:29 but like mishearing, misunderstanding, but the going off script thing, even when it's an accident, causes this moment of humanity and delight between two people that are strangers. I was thinking yesterday about how I will never forget that moment forever, the rest of my life. Cause it was so weird. I don't think she will either the way her face happened. So how weird that two complete strangers who'll probably never see each other again, who met for five seconds, will have this weird shared memory. Yeah. That's delightful. That is delightful.
Starting point is 00:24:05 There is something to be said about having somebody who's like in a position of, I don't want to say power, but in a position where they have to be serious and their job is serious and to get them to, to forget about that for just a brief moment. And it's impossible. I have never seen that at a TSA agent before. That kind of joy, right? Cause when you try to do it, it's impossible. I have never seen that at a TSA agent before. That kind of joy, right? Because when you try to do it, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I mean, she just was like this. I can't say it when people try to do it. When I was putting my stuff on the conveyor belt, she was just looking. She was just shaking her head. She was just shaking her head. Big, big smile on her face. I was just like, oh my God. Imagine saying what you last been for six days in a row. And then someone looking at you and saying, I've been sober for 25 years, which is a bit. And then in my head that night,
Starting point is 00:24:50 this is like my bookend of the delight of this experience. Cause I was delighted by it all day. And then when I went to bed, I realized I was making up scenarios in my head. For example, in my head, that woman needed a sign to get sober. She was like for weeks and months trying to figure out like, maybe I should get sober. And she was like really trying to get sober.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And then she was like, send me a sign that morning. And then this woman's like, I've been sober for 25 years. But then I'm like, wow, I'm, you know, an hour and a half into this fantasy, instead of going to sleep. And instead of being like, why are you doing this? I was like, my brain is so delightful. Look, I am just making up a story for this lady. That's delightful. That's cool. Okay. So that's one of my delights. Babe, what about you? Well, every morning I'm a routine person. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I love my morning routine. I do nearly exact same thing every morning. And part of my morning routine is that I go work out at the gym near a house from 7 to 8 a.m. almost every single weekday. Yes. And when I first started going there about a year ago, I started noticing something that was happening and where we live, there's like this liquor store that opens up at 730 every single morning. And that's early for a liquor store. It is. It makes me kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Did you see the TSA? I did not. But they sell like conveniences and stuff there. But anyways, I started noticing this older gentleman would pull into the parking lot. I do not know this person. I've never seen him. I don't know his name or anything like that. But every single morning he shows up right as that place opens up and he walks his little rear end
Starting point is 00:26:41 into that store and buys a lottery ticket every single day. And there is nobody on the planet that has belief that good things can come to anybody who believes it for themselves. This is my daily morning delight. You know, that scene in, um, goodwill hunting when light. You know that scene in Good Will Hunting when- I knew you were going to say that. We need to review this pod for how many times we've referenced for different reasons that scene from Good Will Hunting. Tell it baby.
Starting point is 00:27:17 You guys can probably explain it better. Do you want me to do it? Yes. So Ben Affleck picks Matt Damon up every single day to take him to his construction job. Will is like this mathematical genius who should probably be working at MIT or whatever. So Ben Affleck explains as his best friend that every single day when he walks up to Matt Damon's door to pick him up for his construction job, he has a second where he hopes and prays
Starting point is 00:27:40 that Will will not answer the door because he's gone off to do his life and gotten out of this town. Yeah. Yeah. And went and got to be able to like do his dreams. So for me, my dream and hope is that this gentleman who is buying this lottery ticket, stop showing up because then I know he's won the freaking lottery. And it is a delight. And I work out with 10, 12 people different every morning. Every single person knows about my obsession with this person who is going to win the lottery one day. The all the trainers that they're like, there's your guy. There's a lot of guy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And I love it so much. And one of my superpowers is like when something delights me, I want to like share it with people. You are so good at that. You're very good at that. So that's my little daily delight that I also like, I really love a good lottery ticket. You do.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You're so hopeful. I don't do it anymore. Abby Momock used to get an, every time she would be absolutely positive that she was going to win. Yeah. And I just, I freaking love that about you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I mean shocked, shocked when she doesn't win. For real. Okay, I have one. Okay. Recently I escorted the fifth grade trip to Colonial Williamsburg. Oh my God. Colonial Williamsburg, which was a 13 hour endeavor that included riding hens and yawn to and fro on an autobus with like a hundred fifth grade kids to Colonial Williamsburg. And then we walked around and then as if there wasn't enough injury already suffered, we were waiting for the bus and then the skies just open up. It is a total deluge and we're all
Starting point is 00:29:55 standing out waiting for the bus and then it's like this moment where everyone's trying to decide how to respond. Exactly. There's that moment where everyone's trying to decide whether to be like super cranky and vocally angry or just like quiet and fuming frustrated or just to like resign ourselves to the fact that we're going to be sitting on a stanky bus for three hours home with a hundred fifth graders. And then, so after this moment passes, there's like 25 of the kids like run over to this corner and they're splashing in the puddles and they're doing the arm pump, you know, the universal signal of your honk at us. And each car that goes by, probably 85% of them honk back at the kids. And it is as if every single honk is like a goddamn miracle. Every honk, they start screaming and jumping up
Starting point is 00:31:01 and down like they have just like one Abby's lottery. And then again, they wait for the next car, they do it with equal gusto. And then they honk and then they're just as freaking delighted the next time. And it happened because we were waiting there for a long time in the rain for like 40 minutes and you just could not help but smile because all of it, the finding a fun thing to do in an uncomfortable situation and making it more fun, the fact that it's training them that they're doing it. And then this universal language we have, which is so odd, of just pumping your arm
Starting point is 00:31:36 up and down. The honking your horn is so weird. And then everyone being like, I got you, I got you, hunk hunk. Yeah, why is this universal sign? Because it's a truck. In trucks, they're used to have their horns like a little strap that they pull down. It also works with boats.
Starting point is 00:31:52 We used to do this. This is how we get, we get the big liners to honk their horn and we'd go, honk your horn. But even that, it's like, what is it? The honk, the honk as a response is why does that elicit such delay? Because it's in their contacts. I see you. The honk is like offensive.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But in this context, it's like, yes! Yes. We're all in this together. Strangers, connection with strangers, man. There's something to it. So good. So good. So good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:26 A couple little ones. Can I do like a couple little ones? Yes. So we have a golf cart that we use to drive around our town. We don't have it for golf, but people have those. And sometimes I drive it around in the early morning and the same people are out like walking their dog. This one guy walks his dog.
Starting point is 00:32:43 This one lady is always speed walking. And in my head, what I sing over and over again is, these are the people in my neighborhood. In my neighborhood. In my neighborhood. Yes, these are the people in my neighborhood. They're the people that I meet when I'm walking down the street. They're the people that I meet each day. And it makes me really happy.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And I don't know any of their names or talk to them ever. But they're part of my song. And then a little one is I was walking on this big sidewalk that we have where lots of people walk on by my house and the roses are all blooming. And I do find myself very delighted by flowers and things that grow. I don't understand it. I don't understand why we don't freak out about it more. I will never understand how a very small packet of seeds that is as big as three inches, turns into a hundred foot garden where one piece of cucumber is a hundred times bigger
Starting point is 00:33:52 than the little seed. I don't understand why people don't freak out about that miracle all the time. It's so fucking crazy. Like I'll be like, you guys, this seed that you can barely see on my finger became that thing. And we're all just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Standard. It makes me feel bad for Jesus when everyone was like, show us a miracle.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And he's like, look at that fucking watermelon. Look around, asshole. Look around, assholes. So anyway, there's this one flower garden that these people have and it's the whole thing is full of apricot colored roses. They're the most beautiful color. I kept thinking somebody loves this color so much. It's really doubling down. The gardener's like, um, what about some blues or some green? She's like, no, pretty much apricot. I pretty much all apricot.
Starting point is 00:34:50 This is what I'm thinking. And they're so beautiful. You think we have enough apricot? Add more apricot. And that's what it was. It was delightful, right? Like that's delightful. People who like something so much that they're like, no, all apricot. I don't care. I don't care if other people like a little red. No. As for me and my house, we choose apricot. Okay. So I'm having all of these thoughts, being delighted by these flowers, being delighted by the apricot freaks who planted this garden. And I run into a lady.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Okay, like literally, literally. Yeah. Literally run into a lady. So you're walking or you still in the golf cart? I'm walking. No, I'm walking. Thank God. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Did you run like, was she walking the opposite way or were you walking in the same direction? Unfortunately, I had apparently drifted a little bit over to the left side, like to the place where the people were walking forwards. And I was, it's not a law, but it was everyone's walking, but it's customary and courteous. Walking on the right side of the- Everyone was walking.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I veered in my delight, I veered towards the apricot. That happens to me on treadmills. Okay. Wait. When I'm watching... You ran into you on a treadmill? No, when I'm watching something on TV on a treadmill, I literally almost fall off. Anybody who ever watches anything on a treadmill.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So like you were like, oh, delight. And I went towards the delight. And then I ran into a lady or she ran into me, depending on how you look at it. I was towards the light. And then I ran into a lady, or she ran into me, depending on how you look at it. I was in her spot. Okay, I was in her spot. And then I was like, oh, I'm, you know, whatever I said, I know I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I've been sober for 20 years. Did you say that? Yeah. And then she goes, pay attention. Okay, listen, I have not stopped thinking about this. I didn't say anything. She had a point in her own worldview. In her non-apricot focused life perspective,
Starting point is 00:37:03 she had a point. It was so fascinating to me because I felt like a little bit offended in my soul walking away because what I was doing was paying attention. I was paying such close attention. I was paying such close attention. I was paying more attention than any of the other undelighted assholes who were walking by Apricot Village, not even noticing. I was not paying attention to the things that avoid pedestrian collisions.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Well, it's like that meme. Not all wanderers are lost. Not all those not paying attention to you are not paying attention. Right. And we're going to move on in a second, but I'm just going to put a flag in this because what I'm saying is that I feel like there's something here. I feel like we are paying attention. It reminded me of when I don't close the cabinets or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:10 It's not that I'm not paying attention. I'm actually paying attention to something very important and beautiful. I'm just not paying attention to the thing that gets the things done or avoids problems. Do you know what I'm saying though? Yeah, you have a different, your priority list of what you want to put your attention on is just different. Perhaps we pay attention on different dimensions. But attention is being paid.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Do you have any more you'd like to chat about? Well, I have one that I thought was so touching. This last Sunday, our son was competing in a half marathon and we were on this soccer trip and I wake up at like 6.50 in the morning and I see that there's a notification on my phone FaceTime from Chase. Now in our world, that's like alert level, whatever. Cause he's not awake. And we are on a road trip with Emma.
Starting point is 00:39:13 He didn't remind us that this was happening. So we had no idea that he was actually running. So I called him, no answer, text him, no response. And then about two minutes later, he FaceTimes me and turns the phone on. And what I realized is he is in the middle of his marathon. And he's at the 10th mile there. He and his roommate in college are running together, which I think is the sweetest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And so long in the short of it, he wanted to include me and Glennon on his run, which like, it just was so sweet. Such a delight. And it just made me feel delighted. Yeah. And he wanted to include you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 He called you. She's like, yeah. She's like, yeah, I just threw you in there. He didn't call me. But when I hung up, that was the first thing Glennon said, called you. And I was like, Oh, good. And that makes me very excited and go, Oh. And another, another kid related delight that we were talking about is that our youngest in one of those soccer
Starting point is 00:40:26 games, she got hurt and they kind of get hurt and then you wait a second, they usually pop right back up. And sometimes they don't and that's like a really scary moment. And so she didn't pop right back up. So when she didn't pop right back up, I turned, I'm just still registering what's happening. So I turned towards the chair next to me to say, oh shit to Abby and Abby's not in her chair. We're way up in the stadium thing. I looked down to look for Abby and she's already running across the field to the child
Starting point is 00:40:54 on the field. Right. So what happened after is that we're way up in this stands, me and Craig and Abby and all the parents. And she got really hurt. She's fine, but she got slammed. It was a big collision. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And so she's laying there and the trainer's out there and the coach is out there and she's not moving, which is terrifying to us. Eyes closed, not moving. Abby gets out there. She says, Emma, I'm here. And then she opens her eyes and starts moving. She said, I was waiting for you. She wasn't going to move or open her eyes until her mom was there to say whether she should move or open her eyes. But her certainty that if she just kept her eyes closed for five more seconds,
Starting point is 00:41:42 that her mom would be in that circle. And like, you know, when Abby Wambach runs out onto the field and is like, that's my kid, the trainer just is kind of like, okay, go ahead. Let me know. Let me know what we should do. I mean, it was really sweet. It was a damn delight just to hear her say,
Starting point is 00:42:06 I was waiting for you. Just the certainty knowing that, you know. Oh my God, that's so beautiful. Yeah. So, Glennon wasn't around when I was playing and I would fall a lot. I fell down a lot. I was a very physical player. And so, to make sure that my mom wasn't losing her damn mind watching me have all of these physical collisions interactions I would lay on the ground with my thumb up if I was okay and just trying to like
Starting point is 00:42:34 Dive they call it Elongate the call or play a psychological game with the referee the refs didn't catch up He's like writhing in pain, but she's got a little baby thumb up. Little baby thumb up. Or like, there were a couple of times where I just, I was actually really hurt. Thumbs down. Oh, that'd be so sad to see your kid laying on the ground and then go, thumbs down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So we taught Emma the little. All good. But I knew instantly that it was going to be a big collision. I knew she was going to be fine, like truly. But I also knew that Emma didn't know she was going to be fine. And so I needed to get out there to make sure that she knew that I knew that she was going to be fine so that she could be fine. And she was fine. Ugh, that story is so beautiful. I just thought of a delight from that moment that maybe Emma has a little bit of me in her because the trainer goes, did you hit your sternum? And Emma heard, hit your sternum. So she's just doing whatever they say.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So she slams herself in the chest while she's laying down. She was just laying there and she goes, bam. And I was like, whoa. And the trainer goes, why'd she do that? She goes, hit my sternum. She said, did you hit your sternum? She's like, well, now I did. Anyway, all right.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Do you have any more little ones, to see you wanted to say? I garner a lot of delight from the fact that the dog always knows when a kid is sad or hurt. Oh. If a kid is so sad about something you don't know what to say, but then Seamus just walks in and like puts his
Starting point is 00:44:25 head on their shoulder or their lap. And it's like, how did you know that? It's amazing to me. It is. I know we have, we had to like actually edit all of the dog because we could just sit here and talk all day long about the delights our dogs give us. The dogs, they're just our besties. Their delight reminders is what they are. Also the way Alice says specifically, pacifically, that is a source of delight for me. That's sweet. I'm gonna be so sad when she learns.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I've never told her it's wrong. Good, don't. Just because selfishly I wanted to keep she learns. I've never told her it's wrong. Good, don't. Just because selfishly I wanted to keep saying it. I love that. Possibly I would like to draw your attention to. I had two little ones. One is I was thinking about it's a delight to me every time my friend Alex comes over and I open the door
Starting point is 00:45:21 and she just stands on the doorstep and looks at me. She tilts her head to one side and puts this face on her face that makes it seem like we haven't seen each other for 30 years. And she's been on a long journey and she has finally made it. She lives in LA. We see each other once a week, but it looks as if we have been on a long journey and have finally found our way back to each other, which it sometimes feels like life is like that. So Alex on the doorstep is one of my delights.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And also I have this yoga instructor who is really cool and wonderful. And then every time I leave her class, she goes, Bye, Glenn, and I love you. Oh, and the other day I said, I love you too, Anastasia, and I do love her. Oh, that's so sweet. It's like these people that show up in our lives and help us through an hour, help us through whatever. Yeah, I love you, Anastasia.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I really do. I love you. I have a delight. What's that? Yeah, I love you Anastasia, I really do. I love you. I have a delight. What's that? So on Tuesday morning, I had made plans with your mom and your mom to go to my gym that I was speaking about earlier. And I think she was feeling a little nervous
Starting point is 00:46:42 because like... Because she's 75 years old and she's going to the workout place that I have not gone to one time because I'm too scared of it. And she gets in there and she's moving weight. Your mom is amazing. She's so fucking badass. And so my delight comes when, you know, the trainer comes over and he's like, that's excellent form. Excellent form. And I was like, Oh my God, that's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And then the walk home, your mom was so grateful and thankful. And it's kind of intense and overwhelming at first, because there's a lot going on if you don't know how it kind of flows. And it was just a fucking delight. It was amazing to me to like go and do this thing and also super inspiring for me. It's like changed my outlook. I don't have parents that are active in their in their 70s, you know. So it's reframing like what my vision is for a future for ourselves, you know? It's really cool. Sissy, do you have anyone to end on? I feel like the small town delights,
Starting point is 00:47:59 delight me, the little things. Like I was just thinking about how, when we go for a couple of weeks in the summer to this small town where John grew up going and everyone's looking out for slash parenting everyone's kids and there's not like, I don't talk to my kid like that. There's just nothing, it's like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 please say what needs to be said to my kids. Because it's just a few blocks and there's shop where you can get like milkshakes and sandwiches and stuff. And I remember calling up one time because I had to take Bobby somewhere and I didn't even say who I was. I was like, can I please have an egg sandwich on bread? And they go, wait, is this, is this for Bobby?
Starting point is 00:48:41 And I was like, yeah. And they go, that's not Bobby's order. We'll make Bobby's order. And I was like, yeah. And they go, that's not Bobby's order. We'll make Bobby's order. And I was like, okay. And it's the same place where Bobby came home one day and told me that, unfortunately at the market, the milkshake machine was broken. And I was like, good for them. The milkshake machine was definitely not broken.
Starting point is 00:49:03 They had just been like, this little boy has had too many milkshakes, so we're just going to tell him the milkshake machine is broken. He's like, you'll never believe it. The next day he went in and he's like, the milkshake machine is working again. Oh my God. I just really like that where you can just, people can just make executive decisions about like, your kid has been over served of milkshakes and we're just gonna tell them. So good, just some common, some like small town common sense.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yes, and communal raising. Yes. Yes, yes. I have freaking loved this. I think we should ask the pod squad. I think that we should collect delights from the pod squad. This is like good stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Y'all, it's like, you can't add time, you can't change time, but you can kind of change your experience of life by focus. I mean, let's plant some apricot roses. Let's plant some apricots. And pay attention. Yeah. Let's pay attention. Yeah. Let's pay attention. Pod squad, if you want to share some of your delights, call in 747-2005307.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That's 247-2005307. You're a delight, babe. I am an, I actually am. Yes, you are. I am. And guess what? I think you are also actually am. Yes you are. Yes you are. I am and guess what? I think you are also a delight. You do?
Starting point is 00:50:29 One of the things that I am most delighted by is you and your delight. Wow. Oh, delighted bouts. I just love like, honestly, if I see somebody else in a delight moment, it does something to me. I'm like, oh, look at that person.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Oh, oh, oh, oh. Pod squad. Oh, we'll see you next time. Go out there and get your oh. Bye. If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you'd be willing to take 30 seconds to do these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to We Can Do Hard Things?
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