We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle - What We’re Watching, Reading & Listening to Right Now

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

Is the most relentless question of your day (other than what do you want for dinner?): WHAT SHOULD WE WATCH TONIGHT? Here to help. Everything we’re watching, listening to, and reading on today’s pod: Yellowjackets, Succession, Calendar Girls, 90 Day Fiancé, and so much more. Let’s start a Pod Squad list. What are you all watching / reading / listening to? P.S. Succession Spoiler Alert! Skip through from ~20:38-23:20 if you need to! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. Are we recording? Yes. How many of these episodes? We've done 200 episodes and every single time, folks. Glennon doesn't get the process. That's because I have beginners' mind. You sure do. You sure do. Get the process. That's because I have beginners mind Be sure to sure do She starts talking and we haven't even hit the record button. Okay everybody. So welcome to we can do our things Where we're gonna be recording we incined to each other. Oh, okay?

This is an utterly thrilling episode because we finally get to talk about one of my favorite subjects besides coffee and boundaries and gender. And how forgiveness is not really a thing. Something tells me we're going to get to those in the course of this conversation. We're talking about TV today. We're going to talk about what we are watching, reading, all of the things that we are consuming because sometimes it feels like Abby and I spend most of our life just sitting on the couch trying to figure out what to watch.

Do you think that that is true? Well, not most, there's a lot of time spent into what should we watch? What should we watch? I go to it every night. TV series on television, 2023. Yes, just in case someone's written a new article. That's what I do every single night. And truly, what I want to say is, I think sometimes I am trying to like be more erodite. That's smart. That's smart, right? Yes. And the truth is that most of my life, no matter what I'm doing, no matter what it is, all I'm trying to do is get back to my couch to watch TV. That's it.

Like, if I'm at the most amazing thing, if I'm at a kid's thing, if I'm taking a walk, if I'm enjoying nature, really what I'm trying to do is just get back to the couch and turn on the television. Why do you think that is? I love coziness. It is your homeostasis point.

Yes, because I'm a home sexual. Okay. I am there it is. There it is. There's the sexuality. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We got it in, people.

Thank you for coming to We Can Heart. Couch is my church. And because I freaking love my family so much and I love my couch and I love togetherness with the family where no one's talking. We're all together, but we're staring, it's like the campfire. We're at a campfire, but without any mosquitoes.

I have a theory about this for you. What? Because I think that there's a small part of you that kind of feels like that isn't the best way to be living a life from like an aerodite's perspective, right? Oh, I panic. I panic when we do it too much.

Yeah, you really do. You have limits on how many shows we can watch in a row. And she says, at any point, you want to watch the next one, like my inside, I'm just so excited. That's abysexuality. It really is. My theory is, you spend so much of your day living inside of your brain and now your body.

And the way you're working through stuff internally, I think that you actually, your body and your mind is telling you, I need to have a shut off valve. To do this. And you get to escape your own personal drama and enter into somebody else's, whether it's mindless or not. Yes, you remember that show that was like wrestling

and it would be like Randy Macho Man's Savage, like that wrestling W.W.S. Right. And D.W.S. Like everyone saw they'd be wrestling, wrestling, wrestling. And then they would tap out. They would be like, I'm too tired, I'm done. I feel like life is one big wrestling match.

And I'm like struggling and like throwing haymakers and all day. And then, what for heck is a fucking wrestling analogy? I am, that's what I think of you. When I think of you, I'm like, I can turn into a lot of things. Almost exactly like Randy,

what was his name? My name is Randy Savage. The point is, life is a wrestling match, and sometimes you have to tap out. And since I think maybe some people who don't have any tap outs left, who are out of tap outs, like booze, like tap out of the face. I'm tapped out of tap outs, my tap out is television,

because being a human is intolerable after a certain point in the day. Have you read Lessons in Chemistry? Oh my god, it's on my list to discuss today. Okay. Well, do you know the part where they're trying to convince her to do that TV show and the guy explains the psychology and he calls it the afternoon depression zone where our circadian rhythms were made to sleep at night and have a siesta. Yes.

But we're one of the only cultures that refuses to allow ourselves the rest. So our body needs it. So we zone out in front of the TV in the afternoon depression zone. And that's why they make those shows just barely engaging enough so that you can kind of disassociate from yourself. Basically, that means you should just be going to sleep. Well, it's so true. Abby does that. Abby takes a nap every afternoon. And my God did it. Did it for the first couple years the first couple of years, to like a couple of weeks ago, make me want to die because it was like, what are you doing? You are just resting at me. That is the way it's supposed to be. This CS that is what's why Abby is such a happy person. And that's why we all why do we all need the caffeine right at 2.30 or

3 o'clock or why do we all start crashing because we're supposed to crash but we fight our natural rhythms. Sister, what is your relationship to television? Also have you read lessons in chemistry? Or did you just read an article about it? I, well, I had to bring it up because it's the only second book that I've read outside of this podcast in the past 24 months. How to raise an adult. Yeah. For three years, they said the show is sponsored by Adorez and adult because I've been reading

him for six months. It's like three entertainers long. And that's how long it takes me to read that month. The good news is, uh, Sissy, by the time you're done, Bobby Niles will be adults. And so it will still be applicable. That book. I'll be like, I didn't. Okay. So I'll tell you what, for this podcast, you told me I had to watch a TV show, so I did watch it and I will tell you what TV is infuriating because they don't let you watch

it at like 1.5. So I listened to all audio books and I listened to podcasts and I'm like, why are they talking so slow? Why is TV so podcasts and I'm like, why are they talking so slow? Why is TV so light? They're like, hello. I am Mary. And I realize it's because I'm so used to 1.5 on everything that I'm like, oh, no, I guess that's how people normally talk. Sister, I think that this is a metaphor for you. I think you are used to 1.5 in most things. That is my normal human beings and our rhythms drive you

batshit crazy. Yeah. Because the whole world to you sounds like, hello. But I didn't. It was odd. But I don't just watch TV. I don't know. But also, do you think that it's because

it's a different intention? Like you're just trying to get through something. So you speed it up, whereas some people are using it as like an actual decompression time. So the speed isn't the problem because they're not trying to just like finish it. Yeah, I'm sure if you're trying to like make your brain

go slower, probably doing it in double speed is not conducive with that. So you do not like, but if everyone else can watch this episode in an hour, I can watch it in 35. Do you think that there's any evidence or something that is like really positive around tapping out because I actually think that that's like a really important thing for people and realize that watching TV is a privilege for some folks, right?

Oh, wouldn't I have little kids there was not? It's just a huge privilege. But I do think for high functioning people who need to go at 1.5 speed, do you think that maybe it would be helpful if you had like this one hour every night that you slow down? Honey, can you talk faster so she can understand you? Okay, yeah, I'm like,

God, you could have said that a lot more efficiently. I like a family movie night. We do those sometimes. Yeah. Like we went through all the Star Wars during COVID and that was really fun. I really enjoyed that. I like to watch the sports.

It's like a bonding thing with BMI we'll watch baseball games. And that's fun. So it's like a point five. I'm like, you know what? You know what? The support of baseball is underrated. I feel like baseball is an analogy for a human.

You look on the outside, it looks like you're doing like three things. But you are actually doing a hundred things. Oh, really? Every one thing that you see. So I'm into baseball now. I also, the March Madness, really fun. So it's a thing with some intention, like we're doing a thing here.

Exactly. Rather than like the mind-based thing. Check. It's like a communal experience. We did that. It's a communal experience for sure for you. Yeah. In terms of the tapping out from being human,

I think I may have mentioned this before that I'm obsessed with this, but you know those circuit breakers, you know those boxes in the garage that have the the row of things that when you're like, yeah, yeah. So being human is like one of those boxes and everybody just has to like, you get to a hot and then you have to flip it to stop being human for a while. And then if you don't, the whole house burns down. Right. So like, what are your, I'm done flipping the circuit break or switch thing.

If it's not TV and it's not booze anymore. Crickets. Oh, she doesn't have any. Oh my God. I should look into that. I'll make that a project. If anyone has any podcasts about relaxing that sister could listen to at point 1.5. Yeah, I want your 10 minute meditation, but make it three. I have a follow-up question. Do

you wear that? Do you wear this as a badge of honor though? Like truly? I mean, probably, but I'm I'm thinking I'm getting over that now. I think I feel over it. Okay. Your kids are also now at a certain age where you get to actually tap back into it. Like when the kids are young, you can. It's hard.

You can. I'm looking forward to it. It is in the three year plan. For sure. Hold on. Here's what I have to tell you. You can do this in three days. You can figure this out in three days.

If you feel like this is something that would benefit your life, I can give you a much longer list than we're going to go through today of how to best optimize your relaxation one-hour period at the end of the day. I mean, Abby, I'm like, I have 99 problems. And a lack of a list is not one. Okay?

I got a lot of lists. That's why I don't have a lot of. But there's not a list of things that you can be doing to fucking relax and to enjoy life. I think this is another pod. I'm so upset by this because there's nobody on the planet that deserves it more than you and your sister Like you work so hard and we will always think that you are the most worker

Like you want you when I'll send you the metal. I will make a metal and I'll send it to you and also PS It can't just be forever that there's so many lists so you can't relax, because there's always going to be so many lists forever. It's true. It's not like you're just about to run out of lists. It's true. All right, come on. And that's what the psychology goes. Okay, I'm not in trial here, people. I'll hear people. I'm Jonathan M. Hevar. I'm a podcast producer and someone who likes fancy things.

But I grew up working class. My parents were immigrants with factory jobs. And because of that, I think about class a lot. And I wanna talk about it. That's what we're doing on my new podcast, Classy. And what did you all eat? You know, trailer food. And I was like, girl, we're not doing that anymore.

You'll hear from people who told me awkward, embarrassing, and strangely intimate things about what class means to them. She said, you know, for the house cleaner, I hide the tag on the $6 bread. And I just thought, don't you think she knows that you're wealthy? You're hiding the tags from yourself. Classy.

A new podcast from Pineapple Street Studios. Available now, wherever you get your podcasts. ["Pineapple Street Studios"] Let's talk about what we are watching. Also, all of you type a perfectionist over functioners. Could you please help us with maybe some things that we could send to sister for ideas? And if you could camouflage them as productive.

Just help us. Okay, some things we're watching. And we're just going to go through a few things today, because we actually watch a lot of shit, but yellow jackets. We're watching yellow jackets. A lot of people are watching yellow jackets. Now, first of all, what you need to know about yellow jackets is it's a good then diagram of Abby and I genre's because it's gross and scary and horrifying. So it's in Abby's genre, but it's also like kind of feminist. It's like Lord of the Flies, but for a girl soccer team.

For a girl soccer team. Which maybe that's why they call it yellow jackets as a nod to the flies, Lord of the Flies, they're both insects, maybe not. Okay, this is what's gonna happen. I'm gonna say things that are gonna have nothing to do with anything, but their conclusions I've made from these shows.

Okay, high school soccer team, they go to nationals on an airplane, airplane crashes on an island, or I don't know, I don't know where the hell they are. Neither do they. Neither do they. There's the show, and it's a group of girls and then a couple guys. It's very strange and eerie and confusing. I would say it's very confusing.

It's riddled with more questions and answers. Right. And I've almost given up on it a couple times because of the grossness and scariness. But it's cool to me because it's a bunch of girls together that are not in the male gaze at all. There's no male gaze. So all of these girls together are just being fully human with each other. They're just the subjects of the show. They're not objects. And they are fully human with each other in ways that we don't normally see women, like animalistic ways, like fully human as animals, almost. And they all have these fatal flaws,

their personalities that are strengths, but you can see later, because we go into their middle-aged years, it's like back and forth from the islands. There's still an island. They're on the island as teenagers. It's a flashback. Oh, okay. They're not middle-aged on the island. No, that'd be awesome. But you see the connection between these terrifying bonds that they made with each other. When it was the worst experience of their life, but maybe they were the most alive.

And you see them not able to let go of that in their middle-aged. And you see... So it's like about attachment theory. It's about attachment theory. Yeah, but the juxtaposition between being in survival mode and that these young women are trying, they're having to become in some ways animals to survive. I think it's really such a beautiful story. And then you flash forward into their middle age

and how they still have that in them. And they're still in survival mode. And it's like about like all in survival mode all the time. And it's like girls together and it's like how we just like love each other and hate each other and protect each other and kill each and each other and eat each other and protect each other and kill each and each other and eat each other up. But like it's just. And how they have to play certain roles in their middle age and like you can see the internal

conflict. So it's like they had this opportunity to become really untamed in a crazy way. And then fast forward to their middle age and then they have to do this reverse taming. Which yeah, and they can't get away from each other. Like they hate each other, but can't find meaning apart from each other. They're trauma bonded. Yes, which is life, right? It's just being a girl, being a woman, like they're trauma bonded by life. And Melanie Linsky, she's so freaking good in it. They're also good. And it's very cool when you think about like, in a world of all we want to do is take Buzz

Feed Quizzes and figure out who we are. We are always talking about Tish and Abby and I watch it together. We're always talking about like which ones, which tragic flies and then most relate to us. Yeah, that was a horrible question. They post to me the other day. Tish was like, who do you think I am and who do you think mom is? Which character? And I was like, this is a trick question.

Yeah. I don't know how to answer this. But we decided that you were a mixture of Van and Taisa, because your beautiful tragic flado flaw is loyalty and leadership. These beautiful things that can go either way loyalty can save you or kill you. Leadership can save you or get you killed all of these things. And then Tish was Juliet Lewis. There's this one character that just beats to her own drum the whole time and is like individualistic. Her name's Natalie. And she also has a very like just constant what the

fuck is going on vibe where everyone else gets eased into this new reality and she's like this is not normal. And that's Tish. So yellow jackets, check it out. Good. Maybe. All right, succession, we have watched succession religiously. We are into succession, which is so weird because, well, succession is about this family that is based on

both the Murdoch's and the Fox News Empire and kind of King Lear. It's like a King Lear story. Who's going to take over this empire and this man who's just this Murdoch-lear type, just ruthless, soulless, but it's also very billionaire world and capitalism and what happens at the top. And on the surface, it's about wildly wealthy people, but if you were gonna make an anti-capitalist commercial, you would make succession because this family and world is so void of,

it's just soulless and vapid and lack of love. It's fascinating. I never know what's going on because they're always doing every minute. I'm like, what's happening now? Because it's all very like businessy language. But I get the vibe. Okay, so I never, what's happening now? Because it's all very like, businessy language. But I get the vibe. Okay, so I never know what's happening really,

but I know how everyone's feeling. And there was the scene in the last one, spoiler alert, all of this is a spoiler. Logan Roy, the dad, dies. And I think that this last episode of Succession, which the Pad Squad will be hearing this behind, it should win awards because the whole show is based on sort of this,

the controllers of the world. They control the whole world. They think they control the whole world. Everything is black card, a black card, a jet, to whatever, like making all these deals, control, control, control, kings of the world. And then Logan Roy dies. Just unceremoniously, immediately. He's on the floor of a plane. And it is the scene where they are up in the

air, the dad has died. And the three kids who have spent this entire series just trying to get control, trying to get power, power, power control are rendered powerless. They're trying to undo this death. There's this scene where one of the kids is outside saying to the people on the plane, no, no, no, this is not going to happen. Get me the pilot. I'm want to talk to the pilot. And the dude's like, you can't talk to the pilot, he's flying the plane. Can't control death. And it's like this moment where capitalism and control and whiteness and power rendered completely impotent by death, by like the ultimate truth. It's just this proof of like all of this shit is just

rearranging chairs on the Titanic. And the visualization of all of this fake power that is just absolutely powerless. ["The Best of All World"] Abbey and I are obsessed with documentaries too. Documentary makes me feel like it's the best of all worlds because it's like reading a book together. Like TV 1.5.

Yeah, yeah. It feels like I'm making myself smarter, but I'm still just sitting here. So I watched a documentary recently that I want everybody to watch. I thought it was really wonderful. It was called calendar girls. And it's about this group of women who are probably in their like 60, 70s, 80s, who start a dance group. Imagine like a drill team from high school. Like your drill team. Okay, they do choreography. They travel and perform at retirement homes and local fairs, and they are so serious about it. And it's so beautiful. And there's this dynamic in it where the men

and their lives and some of their lives can't deal with it. It's too much. It's too much. Their careers are taking them away. Well, yes, but it's like sad and serious. On the surface, it's this adorable thing. And then deeper, it's the story of like what happens when women actually reclaim togetherness and power and joy and want to be the center. Anyway. And some of these are lives are retired. And so they're in retirement with their husbands and their husbands are like, I want you to be home with me taking care of me.

And they're like, I'm not going to be playing golf. Exactly. They're like, I've been doing that my whole life. I need to have something for myself. And it's this beautiful, like awakening in some of these women that they're finally doing this one thing that brings them alive. And then the repercussions of women following their joy together. Yeah. And daring to have worlds without considering their partners.

But also they wear like unicorn horns and like walrus. And they're on YouTube. They're trying to like figure out how to do their blue, shot eye shadow. So they're watching like teenagers do their makeup and they're trying to figure it out. It's really special. OK. So they're watching like teenagers do their makeup and they're trying to figure it out. It's really special. Okay, I

Have spent my life telling difficult truths about who I am as a human And I have talked about sex and drugs and rock and roll But there is part of my life that I have not completely always been honest about. And now when I'm going to reveal to you that I fucking love reality TV. Okay. And I know that you're going to think less of me after you learn. And I just want you

know that's okay with me because I am not trying to be perfect. That doesn't mean you're imperfect. Trying to be honest. No, I don't think it means you're imperfect. You like what you fucking like. Well, remember when I went on Bravo, remember when I went on the anti-co and show,

I went on, watch what's happening live because Bronwyn from the Real Housewives was coming out as queer and she needed my support as a housewife does every once in a while. Okay? And so I go on Andy Cohen's show in support of Bronwyn and Andy Cohen, who made the housewives, who produced the housewives, who is the housewives person. Looks at me and says, why are you here?

And I said, well, I feel like you invited me here. And he said, no, no, no, I mean like you're an activist, you're a feminist, you know, Gloria Steinem recently said that the real housewives is bad for women. Why are you here? On air, he asked me this. And I say to him, Andy Cohen, I'm not saying I think the real housewives are good for women.

I'm just saying, I'm not saying I think the real housewives are good for women. I'm just saying I liked it. Okay. Just letting the soft animal of my body love what it loves, Andy Cohen. I don't know. It's WWE for women, okay? That's what it is. It is, and more ways than one. No.

But there's nothing wrong with that. It's like going to the bookstore and like, seeing that like juicy novel that like you've been wanting, but you're afraid to pick it up because somebody's going to judge you on it or like looking in, finding poetry and walking out. You have to consume stuff that makes you like yourself and like the life. You remember when I was trying to figure out what exactly lesbian sex was gonna be like? So I used to have this book about sex

and then I'd be on the airplanes and I'd put the book about lesbian sex inside of Jane Eyre and read it. That's what like what. That's what I mean. Same same, Jane Eyre was just, if she would have been alive a few more generations.

Totally. She was wishing she could have some lesbian sex sex right okay so what we have done is we have charged sister with watching reality TV reality TV which please understand since she won't even watch high brow TV Hi, Brow TV. Hi, Brow TV is too lowbrow for her. Charging her with watching, da, da, da, da, 90-day fiance. The other way. I thought maybe it was going to be a bridge too far. 90-day fiance. What do you think, sister? First of all, why don't you give our listeners

a quick synopsis of what 90 day fiance is about? Okay, I watched two episodes of season four, which is the other way, which I have been able to surmise contextually from the subtitle that the other way refers to a reverse of the traditional process, which is US residents partnering up with, if we can call it that, it's a stretch, partnering up with folks from other countries to get married, and then the people the other countries come to America. The other way is related to in all of the couples that we see here, the Americans are going to go live into the other countries. Right. So that's what's happening there.

So the 90 day refers to, typically, you get a 90 day visa. And so there is some, shall we say urgency involved in the consummation of these relationships, or else they will not be together. Like a lot of these people found each other on the internet. And or on travel to the other lands, they met these people, spent a couple days with them, came home, and now we meet them when they are about to return to the land. And most of them have a wedding date, which is a few days after they land, including some who have never actually met each other in person.

This is what I spent three hours of my life watching yesterday. including some who have never actually met each other in person. This is what I spent three hours of my life watching yesterday. So, what is your take? So, in the light most favorable, to everyone involved. Some of them are irreconcilably batshit crazy. Some of them I am genuinely worried and scared for. This is why I can't watch reality TV because I cannot separate myself.

I cannot say, oh, it's just TV because Gabriel, I am so worried about Gabriel. I know, I know. Also, I have some observations generally on things, but I think as a psychological observation, without judging the individual people, except I will say I'm going to judge Danielle because that is not okay. What's happening? What's going on?

It's not okay. Oh, Danielle. The curly blonde lady. She is horrifying. Oh, my gosh. I mean, Johan's not getting any credit himself. I'm just saying what I have noticed is a few things. First of all, how incredibly hard it is to be family

or loved ones of people and just let them live. Yes. And make their choices, even their very, very terrible choices. And all of the, there's all these like mothers or brothers that sweet lady, um, who is just really not, it's not going to go well for Jennifer, but her sweet brother and her sister, Lana, mom, and then you've got the mom of the Alabama lady who just says, you know, a mother's where he is. And they're just letting their people go out

and really make terrible decisions. And I realized it is what reality TV is, it's just like a really blown up caricature of what everyone's walking through because we're all gonna watch our kids and our loved ones make foolish choices and we know they are and we just have to let them. And that's an untenable position to live through.

But don't you think it's so fun to watch people make tireless decisions? Outrageous. I won't even say terrible because we don't know. Right. We don't know what's right for them. Oh, we fucking know Abby. We do know.

I mean, I just don't. I haven't seen the whole show. I'm still at the, I'm actually caught up to season four. And sure when you see the whole show, it'll be crystal clear, Abby. You will see wrapped up with a little bow and everything will be fine. But what it makes me feel is like grateful that other people are showing me that outrageousness is still possible. Like, she's such a romantic. She believes. She believes. But here's what it does for me.

It's so funny to me that these people think this is about whov. It's hilarious. I know. What it's saying to me every time and the people are saying it with their very words that come out of their mouth. Is that everyone on this show, what is driving them is that they want to go get a certain life, okay? They know what it is.

My girl with Johan, she just wants to live at the beach and be out of New York. But yet we don't let ourselves go get the life we want unless it has this kind of an excuse of we are pursuing external love. What I want to say to Danielle is go fucking live in the Dominican Republic. If that's what you want. Why are you bringing your one into this? Oh, he wants to do, which is what he stated is live in New York.

Okay. So why don't you just go ahead and do that? All Chris wants to do is live for herself for the first time. Why is she bringing sweet Jamie into this? Oh, I'm really worried about Jamie. I just don't understand why people aren't just, but what about going to get the life that they want? That's a really good point, but I feel like Gabe and Isabel are in love. I know, I know, but that's, I know, I really hope so. I really, they're my favorite. Yes. I love your take. I have never thought of that. Just go get the thing. Don't say it's about love.

Say it's about self love and go do the thing. I also feel like 90 Dayfiance, which one of my smartest friends, Yaba, told me. I don't know if she's going to let us. Yeah, we'll have a little spire. She's too erudite to admit this, probably. 90 Dayfiance is an anthropological research project. Yes, it is. It is because, first of all, when you think about, we are like, oh, that's so crazy what they're doing. Every marriage is a little bit like entering

into a different culture, right? Except they're doing it literally, and then they are stunned and shocked when the two cultures clash. Like for example, the fashion designer who wants to wear a bare midriff but then marries an Egyptian Muslim and is shocked by the culture in Egypt. Neural, but he said before they got married, what you will need to do is where clothing that covers your entire body and she went to

fashion design school and all she wants is to wear vintage, 20s clothing. But this is what I mean. The other thing that it does is it just like puts in huge highlight the idea that we are all so scared of talking about the things that we're scared of. Yes. And we are all so scared of asking the questions that we don't want the answers to precisely because we already know the answers. That's right.

So they're all like, why don't I have you talked to him about this? Why hasn't he told his family he's engaged to and going to be married on Tuesday to you? Well, well I just think it's unclear. I just, it's unclear to me. Why haven't you told him that he's not going to go to New York, even though you told him he's going to go to New York? Well I just think we'll probably be able to work it out. And I know, all of us have these things.

They're littler than that usually, but contrary to all of the evidence, we're just like, if I don't look in that little corner, they won't come to roost. It's worse than people. Isn't that like the whole point of life though, is to like keep putting yourself in experiences until you learn some of these lessons.

Like I know I got re-gifted lessons over and over and over again. Like gifted lessons, that's so good, man. Until I actually learn them. And I kept making the same fucking mistakes over and over again. And I feel like these are the kind of things. Like just because this might be an inevitable mistake doesn't mean it's bad for them. And also, we have to throw out there

that maybe they just want to be on fucking TV. Of course. And also, it's just the American propaganda of it of the whole show is so crazy. Oh my gosh, people wanting to come and live in the US. All the camera angles are like, we're supposed to like be mad at the culture that they're going to and not the American,

but it's like, no, I'm always mad at the American. Oh God, I'm not mad at that at all. I'm so glad you didn't make me watch the one where they're coming to America because that's like, I don't even think in good conscience I could talk about that. I don't think you're gonna be the type of person sister who's gonna stick with these reality shows.

So we're just gonna have you pop in and pop out, okay? I'm not gonna take you to the housewives yet Also loves if oh the marvelous Miss Macyl is coming back. Oh God I love her. Marvel is actually just like that show. Oh my God. That's one of our favorite visual Experience oh and also just precious is Daisy Jones in the six Taylor Jenkins read about Daisy Jones in the six and we're watching out with Tish and it's just it's just precious. I love it because it reminds me so much of almost famous, which is one of my all-time favorite movies and Riley Kio is just

fantastic in it and I can't get over all of the swishy, swishy, swishy, Fleetwood Mackey outfits. Oh, the outfits are so good. I just love any show that has like musicians and like the backstage and how the whole rock star world is. I love those shows. I know it makes me feel cool. Check it out. And next time we'll talk about all of your zombie shows.

OK, I'm so sorry we didn't get to that. I have some reality shows to offer to people. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah, I would like to ask people to check out the new reality show called Senator Michaela Kavanaugh's seven week filibuster in the Nebraska state. Oh, for the fuck's sake.

It is fascinating. I just don't understand why we need other reality TV when we have things as exciting as that. My girl, Michaela, has for seven lifelong weeks stood there, filibustering, not letting the Nebraska legislature pass any bill because she is opposing the bill that would take away gender,

affirming care in her state. Seven weeks. She has strep throat. She's been standing up there. She's just been talking, talking about her favorite salads, talking about everything just to keep the state Senate. And she said, if this legislator decides that legislating and hate against children's our priority, then I'm going to make it painful, painful for everyone. And she said, I will burn this to the ground. And she's not stopping. Also, she is a Catholic,

and she says that it is her Lenten penance, and she is doing God's work by standing up there and doing that every time. Oh. How much longer will she have to do that? Well, they break for session in June. Oh, my God. It's going to be like 90 day fiance, but 90 day Congress person.

Yeah. I mean, she's total badass. Now, if we could just have that reality show, so she could be filibustering, and then we could have like a little confessional where she's talking about how she feels about filibustering and then she could go back. It could be so good. Also on the podcast recommendation on the issues with Michelle Goodwin, brilliant. People should check that out.

It's 15 minutes of feminism and little chunks. It completely contextualizes it in terms of current conversations, but it's from a historical, political context. You don't need to know anything about history of feminism. She really situates what's happening right now within historical framework. It's brilliant. Kids podcasts, American history storytellers. It's a 1-3 plus podcast, and it's basically American history, but accurately. And they do like all these four part series on, you know, how Hawaii became enlisted to be a state.

Women's suffrage, Tulsa Race Massacre, all the stuff where your kids can actually get the real history. Awesome. Okay. You all, I hope you have some good options here. Choices, what are you supposed to watch tonight? What are you supposed to listen to today?

You've got some choices. We mentioned lessons in chemistry. I also just finished, I have some questions for you by Rebecca Mackay. So, Philippine, good. All right. We love you. Tell us what you're watching. Can we start a week and do hard things? Pod Squad TV book. Would that be great so that we can always know what's next and we don't have to stare at each other? All right. Tell us what to watch. We love you. OK, so what to listen to? And what to listen to is it. Wait, yeah.

Yeah. OK, all things. I said Taylor, we got nothing else. Taylor and Brandy, that's the whole playlist, folks. I'm going to go, girls. Bye! If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us.

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