We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 451 - Terminator Salvation (with David Sims)

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

On this week's episode, the gang welcomes film critic for The Atlantic and co-host of the very funny Blank Check with Griffin & David, David Sims into the studio to chat about the dull-as-dirt, missed opportunity known as Termination Salvation! Where are all the lasers we were promised? Why do the filmmakers play the Sam-Worthington-being-a-robot stuff like it's a huge twist? Who is approving this dialogue for Common? And why didn't this film end with Kyle Reese going back in time? PLUS: Who is listening to John Connor's pirate radio podcast, Conncast? Terminator Salvation stars Christian Bale, Sam Worthington, Anton Yelchin, Helena Bonham Carter, Moon Bloodgood, Bryce Dallas Howard, Common, and the great Michael Ironside; directed by McG. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, try to stay awake during this one. It's Terminator Salvation. I'm Andrew Jupin. Eric Siska. Steven Sadek. Chris Kavana. David Sims.

And we hate movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. Terminator Salvation from 2009, directed by Autour, Mick G. But before we get to the discussion, you may have heard a fifth voice. Enter your head. That is our good buddy. David Zims, you may know him from writing film reviews, another film-related content for the Atlantic, and of course, one of the hosts of the very popular Blank Check with Griffin and David. How are you, buddy? I'm good. How you guys doing? Okay. You know, all right. It's hot. It's like

humid and raining, which is the most frustrating weather combination. Weird transitional weather time in New York City. It's awful. It's absolutely awful. It's weird that Dave asked for Ben Hostley to come in and do his levels. Yeah, he's here. He has to do it. He can't speak, I told him. Uh, yes. So like I said, Terminator Salvation. This was the fourth Terminator film. This is, uh, the one with no time travel and almost no male nudity. That's right. There's no ass cheeks in this movie. Nothing. Big problem. Big problem. Why do you cast Sam Worthington when you don't show off that beef? Why do you cast Sam Worthington at all? That's true. Is this the first PG-13 terminator? It's the first PG-13 also. So that's problem number one. Was Genesis PG-13 as well or probably? That was NC-17. Okay, that's right.

That was the kind of you saw. It was all the unsimulated sex. Oh, that does it every fucking time. Yeah, let me see. I'm actually curious. And then the new one's definitely an R. Yes, I think. Genesis was PG-13? Yeah.

We can't do that. No. No. What are we here for? Yeah, fuck up. We are not allowed to say bad words. Yeah. Oh, on this show?

Yeah, every once in a while. You already said, yeah. We'll bleep you out. No one. Sure. The dark fate comes out this weekend. We're all. I'm excited for it, right? Very excited, but something about that movie stinks.

I'm worried. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the trailers aren't showing me a lot. I feel like there's something they're hiding. They're hiding Edward Furlong. He's not in those trailers. They are hiding Edward Furlong. He's supposed to be there.

Well, I think they got to do the computer work there. They digitally erase some of the paunch, I feel. I think the problem is, is that the villain Terminator, this one just doesn't grab me from the trailer. He seems like kind of a nobody. Who's this guy? Is he anybody? He's literally a nobody. He might be Ghost Rider for...

Oh, on that thing that they decided not to pick up? Yeah, yeah, that one. I think he might be the Ghost Rider. But he's playing a Liquid Metalman. We haven't seen one, right, since she won't... No, but the Lady Terminator had some metal. Liquid. Yeah, she gets some stuff.

Yeah, no, sorry. No, but I just think if you go metal, you get solid Terminator, liquid Terminator, Gas Terminator. That's the next step. You're totally right. You inhale Terminator and there's all these nanobots eat in your lungs? No, they take over your body.

Genesis had a nano. Oh, it is right. Thingy. But they've never had a compelling. Liquid was so good. And then they never had another compelling idea. Even ice would be something. Yeah.

I mean, that's still liquidish. They kind of ice up a Terminator in this movie for like a hot second. And then he just unfreezes himself pretty quickly. I didn't know I was watching the right. movie when we start with Sam Worthington and Helena Bonham Carter in this prison drama? What is going on here?

Dead Man Walking all of a sudden. Look what the fuck am I watching? Except unlike this movie, Dead Man Walking did not feature Sean Penn making fun of Susan Srendon having terminal cancer, which is all that this scene is. It's a weird movie. He kisses

her and he's like, so that's what death tastes like. It's a major nag. That's how you get him, though. That's what I heard. Right. You got it next a lady. Wait for them to have cancer.

I think next a lady later in the movie, too, that's kind of his move. Like, he says, it's my fault that a cop, like, my brother and three policemen are dead. No idea what that is. We never hear what that story is. You got to give me that. Yeah. And he's acting like a machine from the start. Well, because he's a terrible actor.

Yeah, but it's just, he wakes up a machine. Here he's human. Right. There's no difference. No. I know he's a terrible actor, but... Well, that's what I hate about this scene. It sets up like...

It's Helena Bonham Carter and him, and, like, the whole thing is she wants him to sign over his body for something. They don't tell you what. And I'm like, what the fuck else would it be? Not a robot? You're signing up to not become a robot. Is that the idea? Because there's tension...

Do you think that whenever someone gives up their body for something, they're becoming a robot? Yes, every time. In a Terminator movie, maybe. Well, the dumb thing is, it's like they give her cancer, so that's like this sort of red herring there's like, oh, maybe it's like cancer research. But then, like, he signs that form

and it says cyberdine systems on it. You're like, oh, well, you're a robot. And then there's tension throughout the movie. We're like, what is he? What's the mystery? There's something weird about him. He's unaged. He looks the same.

How? it's 2018 far in the future because this does start in the grand year of our lord 2003 Mike why maybe it was like they were she was getting like a likeness release like because all these terminators you got to build them on somebody and you got to get contracts right for those personal or maybe the mocap he was going to provide the mocap for terminators it was it was the likeness thing Helen of Bonham Carter learned her lesson from the whole Crispin Glover experience with Ghostbust or Back to Future too.

You got to make sure that shit's all signed off. Everybody's getting paid. She doesn't want to get sued. That reminds me in Terminator 3 there's that cut scene of Arnold as an army guy just signing away his... But he has a funny voice and another guy has Arnold's voice.

Oh man. He's like, I'm the general. You guys have seen this scene. Completely bonkers. But isn't it, isn't his name like General Candy Cain or something?

It doesn't sound like a terrible game. I will be dancing later. Oh, I know, that's the other guy's voice. Well, that's right, yes. The other guy was like, the Mel Blank of Terminator's,

I guess is the idea? Yeah, just sign on the dot line, Admiral Lollipop. I think it is something stupid. It's General Candy. It's something like that. Yeah, yeah.

It definitely is. Uh, yeah, so that is our prolog here. It's 2003. Longview State Correctional Facility. We spend a lot of time watching him get executed. His last word is an exasperated sigh, which I appreciate.

Well, that's, you know. Yeah, well, that would have been mine if I was being executed in Terminator Salvation. Certainly sums up Sam Worthington's whole career. Yep. Just a muted sigh. The rest of his career is flashing before his eyes. Oh, that's sabotage.

He was just remembering that one time he was kind of okay in that man on land. movie. Sure. I didn't even see that. I think it's man on ledge. Yeah. It's called man on ledge. It's called man on ledge. He is a man on ledge. He's frightened by a pigeon at some point. It's like a spiritual, I just assume. A spiritual sequel to phone booth kind of I think. Right. Which was a spiritual sequel to cell phone or whatever that other movie was. Oh, right? He was in a bunch of Jesus movies, right? He did the one where he's in the Jesus house. The Shack of the Titans. The Clash of the Titans was based on the Bible. Yes, it was. Big time. Those are all true stories too. Did you know that? Is he in Haxar Ridge? Am I making that up? He is. Everyone in that is Australian. He plays the Ridge, I think.

Yeah, he's the Ridge. Oh, he's the titular Ridge. She's climbing up him. Yeah. I never saw Haxel Ridge. Is that, that's, people say that's a good movie. Violent. Violent.

Very violent. Yeah. Like apocalyptic violent. Yes. It's like that classic Mel Gibson thing where he's like, this guy is such a hero. He suffered so much. That's like how.

he understands heroism is like oh it was so bad it was so gross Jesus Christ the people from apocalyptic and then John Haxar and Rick suffered for our sins you guys

oh sure he was the original Jesus William Wallace oh right William Wallace sure the man without a faith yeah that guy suffered forever he doesn't have a face

daddy's home to he was getting pretty close to Jamie Lee Curtis and a man without a face I remember is it Jamie Lee Curtis I think. Like he's flirting with her and she's like, oh, he doesn't have a face, but he's like, that

side, not so much. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a real, like, I can sit on you from the left side. Right. We can make some moves. On the right side, it's fucking Halloween town. I mean, we could get married. We could get married, as long as I only see that side of your face. Yeah, so then we get the, whatever, the silly

credit sequence where they say Terminator Salvation twice. It's like, because they do top I guess you forgot what movie you're watching. Bale and Worthington. That it says Terminator Salvation and the same thing. And then it goes through the rest of the cast and the crew. And this is Terminator Salvation again. Listen, some people probably needed that reminder.

Yeah, that's fair. Also, this is a classic, like, scroll that has too much information and it's going way too fast. Yes. I had to pause it. Trying to get all these sweet deeds about what's going on, the World of Terminator. The world ended. What do you mean what's going on? It sucks.

That's, it does real... It's shitty! It's one of the shittier futures you could have is this one. Dirt. I don't know. The world is a bag of dirt. Like, it's like somebody just put dirt on everything. Like, I get it.

Apocalypse, yada, yada, yada. But people are like smearing dirt. It's a lot of dirt. And then there's one like office complex that's kind of built. With no people in it. They built like an office building. Well, there's prisons there, we'll get to. They're prisons.

But yeah, no, to David's point, I don't know why the robots all needed like a little office house. It's like a skyscraper. There's lights in it. Like what does a robot need lights for? Like a lot of standing desks for some reason, I guess. Like a lot of staggues, oiled, I don't know.

Well, they kept the whole bureaucracy. They didn't want to get rid of that. They don't like humans, but they love bureaucracy. That works. That was the best part of humanity to them. That is the only thing positive will say about the humans. Red tape forever. I love memos.

And sick days are important. They tear those over. It's something to count. Yeah, so we opened back on it's John Connor in an adventure. Is that what's happening? Right. It's like they're like doing an airstrike on a compound, a sky net, like satellite. Yeah, classic future war business.

Sure, we're blowing up all these satellites. It reminded me of the satellite field from. like 2010 or it's that a Charlie Sheen movie The Arrival Yeah a lot of big satellite dishes In that movie Just dirtier

Filthy, fucking filthy satellites Speaking of the arrival This franchise Revitalize it Have aliens show up If we're doing it You know Have the Terminator

That'd be cool With the aliens Yeah Be like They want No humans Or relax That's it

They're out But then aliens Showed up Exactly Right right Right, right? Because you don't need, you don't need, if you're, if Sam Worthington's leading movies, you could just put a fucking robot versus a gleeplop, who cares? I'm now imagining a world, like, they've just, they've exterminated the last human. It's a robot sitting down with a newspaper like, finally a time to relax and an alien ship comes down to, God damn it. I think the biological life, these robots try to put one over on the aliens, so they start putting on like the Arnold skin suits and everything.

Yeah, we're totally people down here still. And they get the drop on him. Everything is normal. Do not worry about the thing. It is fine. I'm reading the paper. He was busy. Obviously, Arnold's not in this because he was running California into the ground.

He didn't know. What was the verdict on his governorship? Like B-minus? Right down the middle, I think. Yeah, I think at the time, people are like, oh, not so great. And now people are like, oh, he's like a statesman. Like, compared to, right, people are like, yeah, I look to Arnold as like an intellectual leader in politics. But has anyone

ever liked the governor of California? I feel like that's always been a beleaguered position, right? I mean, it's like what Reagan was that? Right. Gray Davis got recounted obviously. Is it Nixon from out there too? Yes. He tried to be governor and failed. The West. Yikes.

Yeah, so this mission, they like blow a hole in the ground. It's like this I hate how they make John Connor like the just the big swinging dick leader of everything. He's the only one that jumps in this hole on the rope kind of a thing. He should never be the first one into the fight. Not only that, it sounds like he's been telling people that he is like the Jesus of this whole thing.

Like, oh yeah, I'm my mom, some dude comes back in time. Like, you're telling people that your dad is from now, goes back in time? And he has no proof about any of this. He has no proof. Just go along with it. The world ended. So that's the negative column. Right. Right. His whole thing is like, the world has to ends. And then all. save everyone. Usually you want your profits before the end of the world in general. And the thing is, I don't know when he

started getting the word out. Because at the end of Rise of the Machines, like, it happens. Like, it all goes down, and that's the end of that movie. And Ernie, like, locks him in a bunker. Yeah. It's him and Claire Danes, who then comes out of the bunker as Bryce Dallas Howard. Nick Stahl, who never

left the bunker. Yeah, Nick Stahl, who grows up to be Christian Bale, whatever you say, Hollywood motion picture. Well, the radiation in that bunker, It has particles and power. Very positive effects on Nick Stahl. It looks great now. It decimated everything else, but Nick Stahl turned into a fucking Welsh beefcake.

So this is like a year after the Dark Night? Is that where we are? When's this? This is 2009. Which it's astounding to me that he had two Batman's under his belt. And you're going to try to also dip into this Terminator franchise? Yeah, you're going to do a fourth Arnie-less Terminator. with McG's? Why are you doing this? That's a great question. Isn't this the only one without Schwarzenegger in it?

Yes. It's the only one. He's in Genesis. He's going to be in dark place. I really think that's the thing. If you ever want a point point why this doesn't work. Right. That's, he's not here. Well, that television show was pretty popular for like two seasons. There are people that stand by that show. Do you ever watch that? I did. People love that show to the extent that even though like all, every subsequent Terminator sequel is always like, forget all. Forget all. the other shit. We're going back to two. That's the good one. But now they have to be like well, it's an alternate universe and you can enjoy and think about that if you want to. You're not allowed to enjoy this movie, but if you want to enjoy it, it didn't fucking happen. Like, forget it.

It's, yeah, and but he was actually very reticent to do this movie I read because McGie was involved and McGee had to like really kind of like audition to be the director of this movie with Christian Bale. He's like, Christian, listen, have you ever seen the one week

video? I did shit filming dirt bikes in that movie, like you will never believe. Why would they went into McG? Why did this? Why does McG get this job? That's a great question. What was the one he was full throttle right before this? Full throttle was like the early 2000. We are Marshall, right? Yeah, he tried to go serious. Yep, that's right.

And I think that's the last one, right? And I think that's the problem is like he did We Are a Marshall, which I cried during that movie. I saw a They were Marshall. They were Marshall, you know. Okay, look. They eventually became Marshall. And in that moment in the theater,

we were all Marshall. That was the thing. He famously hates flying on planes, which I also hate flying on planes. And that movie is about a plane crash that killed a bunch of people. So I feel like that's him being like, the planes.

Oh, Lars von Truer also hates flying on planes. Why doesn't he do Terminators? Right. Why does he do, we are Marshall? But he was going to do that. Okay, so it's a terminator movie, but everyone pretends. they are mentally challenged.

It's the house that Terminator built. Ooh, that I'd watch. Terminator is just cutting up people. I'd watch that movie. I don't know, but that was the thing. He was the name on everyone's lips. He was going to get Superman for some reason. Oh, man, you got to give it to Mick G.

Like, but why, though? Yeah, I don't, I've never seen it. It's like you get enough middling success and it's just like, okay. I mean, this is not a track record. Oh, my goodness. he directed the All-Star video. That's right.

That's right. Oh, epe. I mean, that is... That's why he's getting... Yeah, yeah, that's it. Sugar raise every morning was him. Why don't you get a job by the offspring? Nothing but classics.

Holy shit. I mean, this is his cultural, like, this is what we'll live on. That's what he'll be remembered for those music videos. Charlie's Angels into... Charlie's Angels 2. We are Marshall and then this. It's Charlie's Angels.

It's some television stuff in between. It's Charlie's Angels. had to be Charlie's Angels. Oh, you know what it was though? I think it was the pilot for Fastlane. Oh, he did do. He's also a producer on the

O'SC. He had like a company that massive list of production credits producing credits, yeah. So Connor's going around doing some stuff. I mean, I guess he finds like a people pen, which is kind of unsettling for him to find.

I couldn't figure out what was going on here because some of those people are like corpses. Others are just prisoners. And then others, I'm pretty sure are zombies. They're naked, though, right? There were naked, they're like shining under there. Right. It's all ladies in the bathtub.

I thought, like, because I didn't see this a long time, and I was like, are they eating people? Is that like, are they grinding them up for like, you know, like body fluids? Well, that's, you can only steal so much from the Matrix. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. And I feel like they had to let something go. I guarantee you that was in the script, though.

Well, they're right. It's like, it feels like a lot of R-rated ideas that they were like, We're also stealing hard from Blade Runner. This movie wants to be Terminator with Blade Runner. And I also read The Road, which makes sense because the book The Road Because the movie hadn't come out yet. But that's where the dirt...

It's just grim dirty and dirty. That's where the dirt comes from. It's grim dirty and stupid. It's a bad combo. It's like Mad Max if it was slow. Like no one's driving that fast. This Fury Road's got a speed limit. The fucking road.

roasted baby. Get me a roasted baby in this movie. Hey, speaking of those Mad Max movies, though, that's a huge problem with this production. Everybody's teeth are fucking white as pearls. What are we doing? Kyle Reese has an exceptionally white smile. He's got fucking censadine or something, dude.

What are we doing? Perhaps the radiation goes against the plaque and it just chips it off. Oh, that's what'll finally do it. That gets the plaque off. Right before your teeth fall out. Right, they look great for two seconds and they fall out of your head. Exactly. He's the other one who got a positive thing from the nuclear blast.

You know, it whitened his teeth, and it turned Nick Stahl into Christian Bail. And he's about to go back in time to, you know, bed Linda Hamilton. Not a bad situation. Right. I mean, at the heart, the movie is about John Connor grooming a teenage boy to fuck his mother. Sure. That's what it's about. It is. Also, though, you shouldn't make a presumptuous, like, we're going to do a trilogy. Make one, make this movie. That's the huge big problem. And it has to end with him going back in time. Yes. That's what it is.

That should be the thrust of this movie is he has to get Kyle Rees to location B. And that's where he's going to go back in time. Which means you have to cast someone who is older than Anton Yelchin. I mean, it's kind of, I think actually is pretty good in this movie as like doing a Michael Bid impression. He was a talent. He was a, yes. He's a bright spot of this movie. Yeah, he is.

He's got like, but he's not in this movie enough. He's like in a cage for half of it. Yeah. And so blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of action. He gets out. He shoots a Terminator in the face the beginning of Christian Bail yelling

through this whole movie. There is just so much screaming. He's so aggrim. Why would anyone like sign up with his cause? He's so annoying. He's really boring. He's got to be really bad. He's got to be He's a cult leader. He just keeps saying that I was born from a time

paradox and I'm here to save the planet. Michael Ironside is like rolling his eyes at it later on in the film. Michael Ironside is the only one with a fucking brain in his breath in this movie. trying to run a war against machines. John Connor keeps diving and being like, now Kyle Race needs to fuck my mom, find a time machine.

Well, that's the problem. Michael Ironside and all the logical people are living under the sea at this point. And John Connor could go around doing the shitty podcast that he's doing left and right. And that's how people, you let that shit go unchecked. And all of a sudden,

darling, it's better down where it's weather, dude, under the seat, that is where it's safe when the fucking Terminators come for you. They're smart enough, but they keep promoting this David Koresh, motherfucker. Constantly. And then you're right about the podcast thing is he's like a fucking radio DJ on this. He's just like, if you're out there, you are the resistance.

Oh, thanks for the reminder. Which is nice. If you're out there, we are Marshall. Yeah, and actually, yes, you are the resistance. And also, patreon.com slash con, cast to get your resistance startup act with a skull mug

premium episodes. Right. Casper Mattress. Yeah, for sure. Well, everybody knows that before he took the name John Connor, this character was Joe Rogan. promo code, fuck my mom. It's why he's so swall and shaved head. Yeah. It's very

rogan-ass. It's always smoking people up. That's in this movie, right? Have you ever heard of DMT? Oh, yeah. That's great. Yeah, I'm sitting here with Marcus. It's like a Terminator. He's trying to get it high.

Today we're going to find out if Terminator's going to get high. Hold it, Terminator, at least 30 seconds. I'd like smoke to come out of his. Oh, that would be awesome. Yeah, that's, now we have a fun bit. It'd be like smoke, nose, and mouth all at the same time. The five spot they call that. You know what this movie is not?

It's fun at all. No fun, no laughs, no jokes. It's no joke. I don't even think there is a single joke in the movie. Like, not even a smirk or whatever, a wink. Like, you know, there's, you know, useless sequels. And then there's useless sequels that try to reinvent the things that are good about the franchise. And that's why this is a huge problem.

Like, those movies, all three of them have laughs at them. In one way or another, you're laughing in that movie at different parts. And it's great. You're not laughing at a single thing. Like, how is it that you have the character who at one point said, are you calling Mois a douchebag. A dipion. A dipsion, excuse me. You know, he's got to say that in this movie.

Are you calling moi a dipshit? Instead, he's like, I'll be back. That is. All of the reference that come with me if you want to live. That should be against script law. Right. I was going to go to movie jail. Later, but he needs to say easy money at some point. Like, he's hacking into all sorts of easy money.

The only thing he's doing is listening to G&R. Yeah. He's still got that. fucking tape. That's pretty impressive. By way, script law, did that have Rick Dalton in it? It did, it was great. Script law. I've got a script law. He gets out of the

situation. He hijacks a ship to go under the sea to meet Michael Ironside. He is berating this helicopter pilot. This guy's like, listen, man, the orders are to go here and he's like, I will fucking kill you. If you don't let me jump out this chapel right now.

I don't understand why you're supposed to like him. No. As a character. Because there is like 30 years of you liking some sort of John Connor and it's like, oh, it'll transfer over. It's just a character. It's a beloved character. Oh, that shitty kid? Yeah, I love that shitty kid. I'll take that shitty kid over this fucking turd any day in a week. It turns out the shitty kid was the best one. Yeah. Nick Stahl, I remember him being annoying too. He spends like the whole time being like, no, my mom was crazy. This is all bullshit. Like, he needs all this convincing. Which is weird because, like, did he forget his adventure with The Terminator?

Exactly. I'd never understood that. I think it's... I don't remember our episode on that or when I... I remember about you... You got to do it all. I guess it's repressed memories. Oh, is that what it is?

No, that was just some Austrian that kidnapped me. I'd rather not think about it. It's like you saw that motherfucker give you a thumbs up as he went into molten metal, dude. But to be fair, anyone would die in molten metal. Robot or no. But there was no screaming. Oh, okay. Think about that, Steve.

No screaming. No screaming. My scream chip was damaged in the time. Scream chips. That movie's a masterpiece compared to this, though, right? Three is watchable. It has action sequences that are, you know, coherent. Because it's got some joy.

This is just absolutely joyless that we were just talking about. Well, it's the militarism that's a problem, too. I know it's war all the time. I get it. war for 20 years and and counting, but like... I mean, we were six years into the suck at this point, right? But like, it doesn't actually, like, I don't think that that needs to infect the future in the Terminator, the war we saw, the war we were promised, there's laser guns, we're

walking around on Skull Beach crunch and shit. Oh, Skull Beach, I forgot. We don't even get Skull Beach. No, this is the thing, right. They're like, I don't know, either they wanted to be realistic, which is stupid about machines. Or they're like, well, no, that'll be like Terminator Salvation 3 we'll have a skull beach right. We finally get to Skull Beach it's like Terminator Salvation 3 colon Skull Beach spring break I really

just want the Mario Kart people to make a Skull Beach and then I'll be happy. Of course and all the like skull turtles are rising from the dead you gotta dodge them. Trimble yeah it sells itself Nintendo I don't know what you're doing but yeah I don't look laser guns like maybe in the second movie someone invents a laser gun and you're like

oh my god and the next one they're going to use it like you know what I mean like you're right you know I didn't even notice until you just said it but where are those laser guns no laser guns in Terminator 2 the shots of the war look pretty cool and I think there could be something to this premise yeah there isn't there'd also then be much less helicopters there are so many fucking helicopters in this movie yeah no thank you fucking space vehicles of some kind the fucking machines have them yeah commandeer some that's the thing it should have been like, here's one that we stole and retrofitted it to be our own

hunter killer. They're just calling them HKs in this movie. And then that just sounds like military slang, which just makes it more obnoxious. It doesn't need to be so dry, so serious. Like, let's have some fun. I think it's just that he learned all the wrong lessons

from doing We Are Marshall. He's like, I'll keep being serious, but I'll do it in a genre I'm more fitted to. That movie should have been a laugh a minute. Yes. That one should have been just Joy. We are Marshall. You're a joy. Smashmouth should have showed up. That would have been fun.

I still have never seen We Are Marshall. That's just like a football group. It's based on a true story of Marshall University, which I think is in Tennessee. I think it's West Virginia. Yeah, somewhere around there. Somewhere around the Rusty Bell team. Appalachian were mining shit.

The whole football team more or less was like wiped out in a plane crash. Now they're mining graves to put all the football teams. They work at the graveyard shift. I mean, it's just the one football team team on it. It wasn't an epidemic? No, it was just like, oh, fucking Marshall again.

They fixed the problem after the one went down. No, it was just, it affected all sports teams at Marshall University. The fucking lacrosse team went down, darts. The bowling team was in a train crash. What about the mathletes? No, the mathletes. Oh, mathletes, that was a submarine fire. But we are in a submarine and blah, blah, blah.

He's yelling at Michael Ironside. Michael Ironside. That takes some balls, by the way, yelling at Canada's Michael Ironside. I do think that's good casting. Yeah. I like Michael Ironside. Did you read the super sad trivia about Michael Ironside in this movie? He had, like, heinous back surgery, because he fell off a ladder.

Wait, for this movie. So that's why, like, you never see him sitting down in the film was because it was too painful for him to sit. So he's just standing and being like, I'm in this movie, technically. he's more of a robot than fucking Marcus Marcus But he Sam Worthington's care

Oh whoops he's a robot Sorry Oh it's such a great fucking secret Also there's no women in this movie Almost at all I mean like Bryce Dallas Howard is in this movie But she's not in this movie She has no lines

She's like I mean She's pregnant They don't talk about it They never talk about how she's break I feel like this is a movie Where like half the movie was cut Right I know they reshot the ending

I know they like did all this stuff They must have completely reworked this movie because it tested so badly and all that stuff. In that opening, you see Terry Cruz just dead. Like, he doesn't even do anything. It's Terry fucking Cruz. When Christian Bale climbs out of that hall,

there's just dead Terry Cruz. And I was like, wait a minute. What? Classic deleted this whole character situation. Are they going to turn him into a Terminator? That would make more sense. Holy shit. That would be so good.

Oh, my God. Terry Cruz is a Terminator. Thank you, please. More of that. Maybe that's what they call. cut. Maybe it wasn't even like being part of the resistance. Well, if the whole conceit of like this part of the cyberdine science is like we're taking people making them, you know, like robots with flesh on them, you know, you could do that.

We're making everybody's secret robots. Like, if you're going to do a secret robot thing, that's like the intrigue is like who could be a robot, you know. Yeah, that's something. Play that whole thing. Right. They already turn fucking common into a fucking robot. Oh my God. If his acting is anything to say about it. His emotion ship was damaged, Chris, okay? Sorry. He's screaming chip too. Dude, he's really, and like, to his credit, I like common.

I like his music way more than his acting for sure. But like, it's not entirely his fault. The lines that he is given. It's really fucking bad. And also, what's his character? What's anyone's character? Like, what is this? Resistance fighters.

And the other thing is John Conner believers. God, yeah, which makes you a dweeb. they say that they actually have a code that's going to turn off all the machines but they need him to test it and he has four days to do it because there's a kill list with all the higher brass including number one on the kill list is Kyle Reese

and number two is John Connor and no one knows who Kyle Reese is so how do the machines know that knowledge is my question like in Terminator in this Terminator timeline did they go back like is there like some sort of a reason why they would know that? You saw the other movies, right? I do.

So I rented them on like Blu-ray. No, I don't know. But I mean, how do they know to target John Connor in the first place? I don't know. Like, that's a great. I never thought of that. Right. That's a great question.

Well, they target John Connor. No, because he's right, because he's the leader. Well, no, he's got a great drive-trium show. Like he's, yeah, right. They're tuning in between four and six, right? You're right. Why would they go about it? Yeah.

Why would they go for him? It doesn't make any, look, it doesn't. It doesn't, like, unless, like, maybe they set one in the past in the future and they know what the hell is going on or whatever. Is this a thing? Was there some secret fucking cartoon that I didn't watch? Is this that? Yeah, there's like a comic book.

Oh, yeah, exactly. A Burger King tie-in that I've missed. I think there is some type of, like, I don't know if it was a web series or something that went along with this movie. I saw that. This was the time for that. This was the era of, like, the, oh, yeah, no, it'll be a web series. It'll be a, you know.

Because there was a thing, I went to rent this on my Apple TV. and then it was like, did you mean this fucking cartoon thing? And I was like, I absolutely did not name that. I mean, maybe I should have rented it. Maybe it's trying to protect you. That's the good kind of AI. It's like, no, don't do this.

No, but do it you a favor. Don't rewatch us. You already saw it the one time in theaters, you fucking loser. But, yeah. Oh, wait a second. Anybody see this in theaters? Oh, yeah, yeah.

All around the horn. Everyone saw the police. I mean, it was something to do. And then, like, I'm trying to see. tried to watch it on cable one time and I turned it off because it was bad. Oh, you tried to do a second round? I think it was just on and I was like, is this? Yeah, this is

bad. And then this, it's like you're watching and your eye just like slips off the screen. Like you can't pay attention to this movie. It's impossible because it's just there's so much dirt and grime and nobody. Everyone's yelling. Everyone's yelling. That's the only emotion I do it has is yell. Well, yeah, release date,

May 21st, 2009. I had nothing going on. I definitely went to the theater to see that movie. What was I doing? I mean, it's like you're like the first three weeks of like summer movie season at this point. And bail was hot at the time. Yeah, now Batman's in a Terminator movie. And we all heard the fucking freakout tape and we wanted to see what the big deal was.

And it's just and it's true of Dark Fate too. It's like every time there's a new Terminator movie, people are like, well, maybe they'll crack the code again. We hold on help. And I think it's a testament to how good those first two movies are that we keep that faith of like, well, maybe this one's going to do it where it comes. And like, I think this Dark Fate movie has the most writing on that because it's like Cameron's got a writing credit. It produced it. Lindhamilton's

back. You know, Arnold is back. Mr. Deadpool's directing it. Right, which, you know, I like that Deadpool. Tim, what's his name? Tim Miller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he do both those Deadpool movies? No, that's the first one. One of the John Wick guys. David Leach. Oh, right, when the John Wick team

broke off. One stuck stuck at home was the John Wick Town. Cartney broke up, man. They just kind of just started making albums. It might mean there's going to be a joke or two in that new movie, which is better than this. Necessary. There's a Joker in what? There might be a joke.

Oh, a joke. I was like, the Joker's going to be in fucking Terminator. Yeah, he's in everything. Just wait. Just wait. It's going to fucking happen now that we've said it. The Joker, you know, Skynet's going to be like, what bothers humans the most? Recalculating algorithm.

Joker in every movie. He was already going to be in Ford v. Ferrari, so... I mean, that makes sense, though, actually. You want to know how I got this car? Yes. That is ripe for S&L. They would make that piece of shit joke into an eight-minute sketch. Absolutely.

When do they invent time travel, though? You're supposed to be in this movie. You got it. Robot, I totally understand it. You know, apocalypse, this, any other thing. But when do humans and both the robots and the humans make time travel together, I guess? Show me a robot scientist figuring it out. Yeah.

That'd be fun. You could have like a pipe. One's got to be stealing from the other. Right? It can't be like concurrent discoveries. Espionage. That's something. A robotic Doc Brown kind of a thing?

Oh shit. Like machine tendrils for long hair? Marty, I was hanging a clock in the laboratory. The platform was wet. I slipped and hit my face. Just have this image of a terminal keep on trying to hold a flask and crushing it every time. She doesn't know how to

hold things gently. Well, one of the deleted things in this was like Sam Worthington was supposed to go back and time. It's one of those like, oh, I found a time machine. I'm going to go back in time a few hours and save someone from dying. What? That's his move?

Yeah. I think it must have been this lady friend that he kind of has for a little bit. Oh, yeah. He's also just... Moon-blood, gude. Yeah. great name moon blood good it's just an incredible name she's not she's fine she's perfectly charming actress but I just always say her name is

moonblood good but I just put umlouts on I'm wagering that's what that was like she gets killed for some reason and he has to go back sure again this is all this is all according to IMDB I feel like I saw Genesis I saw that film I sat in a theater oh yeah I viewed it with my eyes

that has like a little more on the time travel stuff, right? I think so, but I can't remember. You see them go in a time machine. Yeah. All these Terminator sequels, I just can't remember them. The end of Genesis has something to do with Matt Smith as a time traveler. It turns out Genesis, which everyone thought was like an app that was track your grocery shopping or whatever. Turns out it's Matt Smith and it's evil. And it's kind of. And it looks like Matt Smith somehow. Yeah. Like there's all this stuff it lobs at you in the last 20 minutes.

And it awakens Chuckie to start. kill it. Listen, that movie was a lot of fun. Was it? Oh, I had a... Oh, Chuckie? The new one, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chuckie Genesis?

Chuckie Genesis. Chuckie's going back in time. They could have called it back. Hey, Andy, we're going to the old West. Oh, I would watch that. Yeah, sure. Let's start, I mean, that's the thing. Wow, there's a killer doll in my boot.

There is... There is... The franchise is bankrupt. You know what I mean? It's totally toast. Yeah. Just start mixing. Mixing it up, mashup.

Of course. He's in the fucking Mortal Kombat game. That's something. Sure. They're taking that a step too far. I think so. We're putting way too many. Any IP they can grab.

Exactly. You're like shooting someone like $10,000 and all of some of the Terminator's. I can't stand by that. Jason Voorhees was in one. I think Freddie got in there. The Casta Mahal and Drive are going to be in this one.

The Terminator is one of those things no one really owns, right? It keeps getting like auctioned off. Absolutely. I read some article that there's some Hollywood law that after 35 years, writers can, like, try and claw copyright back,

and Gailen Hurd is going to try and steal Terminator back. Really? And Anna Pernas, like, freaking out about it. There's, like, a whole myriad, like, legal drama thing going on. Anna Pernan is freaking out

because they're like, oh, my God, how are we going to lose another fucking $25 billion on this now? Did they already lose it? Does Paramount? I forget who... It's so complex the amount of studios

that have, like, taken a bite at this movie. Who's putting out this movie? It's paramount. It's paramount. It's paramount. It's paramount. Skynance. It's the other

Ellison, David, not Megan. Skynet Entertainment. Come see the movie. It'll be great. The doors locked from the outside. They have way better theatrical windows than Netflix though. That's the whole thing. That's why everyone's signing up with Skynet and Cueby and whatever.

What if Cueby is Skynet? Oh, that could be. Then we're all... I mean, we're all totally... Like, once Skynet actually happens, which it's gonna... We're all sunk because it's like, oh, cool, all download that. I honestly wish Judgment Day happened in 1997. You know, it's fine.

You know? We all like to watch Titanic. Well, yeah, you saw Titanic. You saw the Star Wars movies and theaters. You're done. You're done. Sign me up for Skull Beach. Nothing was good after this. But the problem with all those other, and each one of

these subsequent ones is the same thing where it's like no, this is the beginning of the new trilogy. No, no, no, this is the beginning of the new trilogy. Yeah. This time, I swear to It's not going to restart it again. It's the beginning of a new trilogy. I think with Genesis, though, they were flat out like, it's fucking fan fiction.

I don't know. Yeah, right. Pick and choose. We'll see. But I guess. Like, in this one, they're like, okay, we've recast John Conner. He's Christian Bell. People like, no, thank you.

Okay. Genesis, they're like, okay, John Connor's not involved. Or he is? He is. He's played by Jason Clark. Right. And Sarah Connor's being played by Amelia Clark. They're not related.

And Arnie's in it. What do you think? Is it Jay Courtney in it too? Yes, he's Kyle Rees. Oh, man. I almost threw up a little bit there. Yes.

And no one likes that. And then they're like, fine. Arnold Schwarzener, Linda Hamilton, all right? Sorry. Took us this long. You just want that? Fine. And then like, even that wasn't enough, though.

Then like four months later, he was like, oh, fuck it, fine. Eddie Furlong. They're all there. Yeah, him too. Right. They're in it. Michael Beed's ass.

Is that getting you in the theater? He's the only one is not in it. People keep asking him, are you in it? And I don't know what he's so busy with. gardening for a franchise so preoccupied with time traveling we were talking about like chucky in the old west put fucking arnold in the old west as a terminator go kill buford mad dog connor it sounds great shot in the back over a matter of 80 dollars

what we like is that there's a terminator out to get you we don't really need to know about the machine more i guess that's never been that interesting as it turns out it's not that's the whole thing they're chase movies yeah There's some chases in this And that's when the movie's like, I'm like, oh, I almost look at it And then I don't and then it's just gotta go Because we're just in dirty holes being dirty So many dirty holes, dude

What this movie does twice that I hate Is a totally fake Like an obviously fake Long Take action sequence There's two of them Like when he is trying to hijack that helicopter at the beginning And it's like, it goes up It goes all over the place

And then he crashes it or it's like Just the fake fucking, like, single take thing. And there's another one in another action sequence later. And it's like, that doesn't make it easier to watch or more exciting. It makes it, like, dizzying. Like, I was getting nauseous watching it. Was this 3D or?

I don't think so. Sort of the 3D craze is not really hit you. Because this comes up before Avatar. Oh, right. And that's what did it. It was sort of the preview of, like, oh, Sam Worthington. Like, pay attention. This guy's going to be in.

that James Cameron Watch this guy He's excellent And I remember seeing this and I was like Okay he's like brooding I guess Like I was not like completely dissuaded On my first viewing of Sam Worthington I was just like he looks

I don't hate him in this I think he's like dull as dirt But like he's doing whatever He is holding on to this accent Yeah I wonder I'm sorry I wonder if that is why

His yells are so bad Like this is the one thing I locked on this Sam could you yell yelled not like an Australian. No, no, yell an American. Yes. Oh, maybe he just kept exclaiming crikey.

I'm a robot. He has to scream no like 17 times in a row in this movie. And it made me like cackle. When are we going to learn that screaming no like that is always embarrassing? It's always embarrassing. It's an internal situation. It's in your brain. Even when Darth Vader yelled no, I was like, oh, God.

Oh, I fucking lulled at that dude. right in the theater just a hearty laugh he gets born again in like out of a Darth Vader gets born no no

Marcus this character like Christ sorry have you heard the good news no he he winds up like coming out of a mud pit and he's like he's screaming

and I don't know what that even is because you're supposed to believe that when that whole thing blows sky high and the nuke goes up there's a literal mushroom cloud that he's a literal mushroom cloud that he

just crawls out of the mud like fucking apocalypse now. Okay. Yeah. And that's right there you're like, well he's a robot. Well, sure. I saw that mushroom cloud. That's impossible. I also don't know how he doesn't know he's a robot. I's like, wow, I don't remember anything. I don't need to piss.

I remember being. I have not paid in days. Not hungry at all. I remember getting the death penalty. Exactly. Exactly. Weird. Yeah. I was death. I was an electric chair. I remember that. Right. Right. And he's just like an unrepentant murderer.

Like they, I feel like there's so much more they could have done with this character. Like maybe he's an innocent man being executed or some thing. Well, that's the thing. Have it be a psycho. That's more interesting. That would be crazy.

But he has to be like Jesus. This is how you get Joker into the Terminator movies. They execute Joker and he wakes up in 2018. Oh shit. And they didn't know. They had no idea. They just thought it was some dude, some bad standout.

And then the grease paint, like oh fuck it's the Joker that's sort of something again something is better than nothing always very true very very true the funniest thing to me about this movie whenever you see like there's at least three terminators that have like Rambo

bandanas on great great point who is putting these bandanas on them who are dressing these terminators are guards in a human prison and they're dressed like they are dressed like Rambo I have robot sweat again well maybe it's a thing we're like these uh these terminators are fans of 80s action

cinema. It would be funnier if they had like Renfields. Oh, like people who were obsessed with the Terminators. Oh, yeah. They're like they're, you know, their, you know, they're thronged. Underlings. Yeah.

She, but yeah, that would be cool. Yeah, like that would be something. Yeah, they're like, that's something weird. Like a little defector guys. Yeah. Honestly, that would probably be me. Like, oh, whatever you say, robot, that's fine. The machines.

Yeah, exactly. Can I polish you today? With the promise of, like, eventually, I'll get, like, one bionic arm, right? And that's what I keep going for. Like, as long as I do this last minute, like, this last minute mission. Yeah. You're going to give me a robot arm, right? You, like, lick their oil excretions and grease droppings.

Totally. I'm, like, the mechanic. I'm making sure they're all ready to go. I'm polishing them. A Terminator is crudely sawing your arm up. Thank you. Thank you. It's finally happening.

I am the first skull at Skull Beach, my friend. That is, that is my skull. there's a monument to your skull because I just can't none of this. None of this. Stephen the cowardly. Exactly. No, I just I don't need any of this nonsense. There's no food, no electricity,

no anything and I'm just like, I have to fight unkillable machines. No thank you. What do they eat? They eat Christian Bell. They only eat Dead Coyote once. Kyle Reese offers him like Marcus Coyote and he doesn't want it. It's a bad line too. He's like, he's like, what are you eating?

and he goes, oh, it's two-day-old coyote and, like, Marcus almost throws up. And then he goes, it's better than three-day-old coyote. That's a joke. It's the single joke in the movie and it fucking falls on its face. I could use animals in this movie in some way. Robot or natural animals?

Both. Maybe, you know, nature, natural. The nature's taken back the earth a little bit or something. Well, that's a great question because eventually Sam Worthington makes his way in front of the Hollywood sign to one of the worst green screen shots you've ever seen in your life and it's like it turns and you see

like totally burned out Los Angeles first of all that Randy Newman song hit in my head immediately I thought that would be pretty good yeah but it's weird because like it's still smoldering yeah when was this war why are those fires still happening

yeah well the fire department was badly hit right the fire department was the first to go that's the first department we lost. Take that department out and set everything on fire. We're smooth from there. Maybe that's clutching their pearls.

Rest in peace department right there. Oh, it definitely would be. Yeah, you got to get rid of them, dude. Yeah, Marcus meets up with Kyle Reese and this girl named Star who's a mute. Awesome, because she might actually have something to say. Well, again, that was some, like, deleted backstory where you were supposed to learn that, like,

this girl was traumatized with, like, a run-in with the Terminator. That's why she's mute. I need to see this girl's family getting butchered. If that's the case. She can't just be mute. I'm sorry. No, no, no. It's not interesting.

It just makes the movie duller. She can't talk. Like, a little girl doing stuff in this movie would be something. And it's like they call her star because she's like wearing like a hat with a star on it. I didn't get that.

I don't know that Anton Yelchen ever asked this little girl her name. Write it down. What's your actual write it down? You just like point to some letters on this sign. I don't know. Star, my name's Bethany. they form a little posse they crush a Terminator

kind of like with an anvil which is kind of hilarious well they're set in fucking Looney Tunes traps he's Kevin McAllister in this movie like he gets caught with like a little tripwire thing I love the part where they paint the tunnel on the wall that was great Anton Yelchen's mashing up a bunch of Christmas ornaments and the Terminator slips on it

that'd be something well once the Acme Corporation gains sentience this world is screwed All the rocket boots and the Once the rocket boots Took over Gave humanity The Anvil

But this I think this Terminator has We're wearing pants too Actually I think he's got some pants on I think you're right Yeah I think he's got some slacks

I need to see It's like a Terminator Like hideout right And they just have a TV on And they're just watching movies And like absorbing Oh I see yeah This one has pants

We should have pants We should have pants We should have pants. Operation Pants. You know, you're stealing from so many movies in this movie. Why don't you steal from Gremlins 2 and have him watch First Blood? And then you see the Terminator put the fucking bandana on. Oh, okay.

Pretty snazzy. Here's the thing. The Arnie Terminator movies are like a pretty compelling robot movie about, like, robot learning about humanity and changing and all the. Robots in this don't change. they're just like brick face loser like they're just they don't do anything any good machine movie

the machines like you know like Michael Fastbender Prometheus or whatever they should be watching movies and like wondering are we so different or whatever exactly like what could be what could be Terminators

what could be that's what's interesting by the first of Terminators and it's not here I mean I guess the point is Mark the second one the first one I guess he's just mean Marcus is the journey I guess

of him like sort of kind of trying to keep his humanity as a machine but that's actually in reverse and not good no he cares right he basically doesn't believe that he's a machine even once he

knows he's a human he believes himself to be a human and he acts like a human even though surprise he's a robot so surprised I couldn't believe it dude my fucking hat flew off my head in the believable so is the idea just Skynet just built him as like a prototype is that the idea they say that he was an infiltrate

yeah like he's he's like a big trap like the whole thing is honey pot yeah no because it's like they use him to attract Kyle Reese and John Connor to the facility yeah to kill them yeah and like you will be the one that finally kills John Connor right okay as computer Helen and Bottom Carter tells us I guess the idea well what would make what makes Samworth I mean this is the question of all Sam Wortham what makes him compelling, like for John Connor or whomever. His ass.

And the answer is nothing. I'm sorry. Also, the first thing the robots do is outlaw music like footloose because like every time somebody tries to play a pop song, it's like, oh no, the machines automatically heard it and they're after us,

the first of which is that stupid rooster part where... Alice and Shane. Oh, yes. And like Kyle Rees is like, what's that? He's like, it's something my brother used to listen to. And I was like, what did you have against Allison Chains, Marcus? What the fuck were you listening to? Totally.

Well, no, I was just, it's such a thing that you would say to like a dude at school. Oh, my brother likes that band. Unless you also like it. Then I like it, too. You can't borrow my Allison Chains album. It's actually my brothers. So. Can you believe they didn't unplug?

They did it on a plug. And I have it. I have it. It's a bootleg. You want to let's do it? I got the chain on the boot, dude. But they play it for three seconds. I mean, I like that song,

but I mean, like, it would have added something to the movie. It's like, oh, no, stop. And then the robots come for a robot fight. There's a lot of parts of this movie that could use, like, score or music or anything. Because I remember there's one part where Marcus gets punched in the face and he, like, turns his head because he's like a machine.

right and it's just fucking nothing on the soundtrack it's just nothing and what's really sad about that doing the score is danny elfman i guess that's tragic i think he backs this one in right yeah absolutely but i also don't know how you like danny elphman find totally competent to make his own music yeah you need to have oingo boingo it's a dead robots pot day no you need to have more than the one instance of Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yeah, or that has to be peppered throughout. Or get a beetle juice, did a little, little, little, little, little, little, you know, get a little that going on. You know, like, wild trumpets?

That's what I want from Danny Elfman, wild trumpets. Wild trumpets. I just remember, isn't that, didn't he do Batman Forever? No. No, he did. L.A. Golden Thal. That's L.E.C.O., okay. Perfect and wonderful Batman Forever score.

Okay. Which rules. And I will defend to the end of my days. Uh, where he's like, yeah, Elfman was a two. subtle for me. You're going to turn the knob up to 11 here. Crank the camp. There's like a track called like Batten Damarung

or whatever. It's all just complete insanity. It's great. Julie Tameore's husband. Oh really? That's who he is. And isn't Danny Elfman married to someone famous too? I don't know. These composers are, yeah, I'm looking it up. You know it's a sad part of this movie?

Christian Bale keeps listening to these Linda Hamilton tapes and she's reading this shit in her kitchen. Yes. Half of it. Like, she's doing these

lines before coffee. You can hear the eggs cooking in the background. I think the doorbell rings. You can hear the mailman proper meal.

And it's just the most Bridget Fonda. Oh, what? That's who Elfman's married to. But those tapes are just like the most boring exposition

as well because it's like, well, you're talking to your fucking son. Maybe you could do more. You didn't hear in the beginning where she says last time on Terminator. Welcome to

the Saraconic Chronicles. I already said, I said it wrong. I said it wrong. God. Also though, in part three, there is Sarah Connor on a tape somewhere. Sure. And I don't know if it's, I think it might have also been her rereading stuff. It's the end of Terminator 1 when she's making the tape for him. Oh, that's right. But was it re-recorded of the dialogue? Oh, it's not the same one at all. But that's what I'm saying, though, like, it sounds better than this one where she's like, yeah. All right, John. You're going to be the saving of the world. I guess. Watch out for the machine stuck. Oh, hang on, I got to get that. Just stay right, John. Just fast forward like 10 seconds.

I'll be right back. Are you wearing that today? We talked about not wearing that shirt. I'm leaving the tape for John. There's 20 bucks on the table if you want pizza. It's just like I have some, anyone else can read that. Like, she clearly didn't want to do it. Or, yeah, I mean, or write her something that she wants to do, you know, like.

Or that. Yeah. Yeah, have it be exciting. Yeah, that'd be fine. Yeah, that'd be fine. Maybe he finds, like, a video message of some kind. I don't know. Oh, shit, I got to go on my mom's Patreon page to unlock the premium content to find out

how to be the leader I need to be! Why is he English now? He's very much a kid from California. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. He's a dingus from California. He's always been a dingus.

He's a whiny dingus. I think radiation made everyone, well, some people English and Australian. Oh, God. But Bryce Dallas Howard is pregnant There's never that scene where he's like One day we're going to have a baby And it's going to be Like something

John Connor Jr. J.C. Jr. I mean that's He won't have to worry about machines I'll have beaten him all by then. You know what I mean? That's a good point to like ground him in this Like he's living his fucking life

In this war zone. Yes. Flesh it out. Exactly. Because Bryce Dallas Howard does like two doctory things And she is out of this movie. Like she's like, oh, a doctor like they they they kidnap a sea snake at some point which is the dumbest

shit that I've ever seen in one of these weird like we also stole this from the matrix terminator eels I don't like why are the like I understand like all right we want to there are more like a terminator is an efficient killing machine it kind of looks like a person it can hold guns and go around killing people like are you just assuming a lot of people are like going for swims that you have these like there's motorcycle terminators to the And Anton Yelkin's like, oh no, modo-terminators. How does he say that? Oh, Jesus, I miss that.

And I think the other ones are hydro-terminators. I'm almost positive. Can we talk about the transformer terminators? That's what I'm going to call them, because they're like these giant. Oh, the gunned of terminators, yes. Oh, the one that looks exactly like the iron giant with a gun. Yes, the one that fucks over that 7-Eleven, it was the funniest part because they get to that 7-Eleven and like they like need fuel and the old lady gives them. food. Right. And there's other dudes like pointing

this rifle at this old lady's head like that's not your food to give away. That's my carrot. But stars eating the carrots and all that and then suddenly this giant arm takes this old lady to hell. And it was the best part in the movie. Here's the thing. I have a retraction to make. We said

there's no instances of comedy in this movie. That old lady getting ripped away by that Terminator arm is the fucking funniest thing you'll ever see. You know what? Oh, a little girl. Things are going to be up. I'm dead. It's like quiet and she's like, are you hungry?

Here you go. Where are you from, child? Yeah. And it's like, br-R. And I don't trust that this terminator is like lightly picking them up. It's like just liquid be pouring into these prisons. Sandwich wiki, I run on old ladies now. They should have eaten that woman.

Yeah. But this thing, it's like going around, it's picking up people to take back to Skynet for reasons. Every one of them has to burst like a grape. I'm sorry. It doesn't make any sense. I was shocked when that old woman was seen alive in the cage. I thought she was just smooched. And they're not putting them down properly. People are at least spraining ankles.

At the very least, everyone's going to have a sprained ankle bot that can find fixes your ankle. Got it. Got it. That makes sense. Shockingly, this wasn't the dirtiest 7-Eleven I've ever seen. Yeah, this is the motorcycle scene. I love this, though, because they're whole, like, we're going to go there because we need gasoline

and then we're going to eat your carrots. They totally fuck up this whole little society here. Because the guy is like, fuck the resistance. We're not part of all that. We're just trying to like keep our heads down. We live under the 7-Eleven. This whole, like this thing explodes. All these people are either

dead or captured. They're trying to drive away and this like kill dozers like shoot them all. Yeah, that's fun. And it's all this little trio's fault. Well, they had like 20 years of good living on that 7-Ele exactly well this it's kind of like how every season of walking dead is like another society is just destroyed you know that's why i stopped watching that show similar i mean it got me for like two and a half seasons

but like oh i lasted a lot longer unfortunately but like it's just the grimness the grimness and the just the the the slog of oh my god it's never going to get better okay i got it that's i'm cool and then every time they're like oh and new community what's your deal This looks like a great place to set down roots. We don't have head aquariums or anything. Yeah, exactly. We definitely don't eat people. That's not a thing we do.

You know, it's just sort of like, you're like, what's going to be in this? What's it with these guys? Oh, they're all like, they got bifurcated tongues. I'll take that. Yeah, that's fine. Sure. Yeah, great.

Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, he has a tiger. All right. Yeah, this is my farm. Nice normal farm. Don't go there. Anything else is fine. Yeah, I'll sanction exotic pets.

That's fine. Sure, that's fine, right. Yeah, just don't. Yeah. Oh, but he's fucking them. Oh, now we have to go. Excuse me. Yeah, but at night we just lock you in

just for your safety, just for your safety. Don't worry about it. Trash. Yeah, so, I mean, like, Big Chase, the... Big Chase, it's sort of silly. Wait, what did you... What are they term...

Terminator? Motto, excuse me. I didn't mean to say that incredulous. I mean, you could be incredulous. That's totally fine. Oh, I'm okay. This used to be called EncrediCast. And we changed the name.

Yeah, yeah. This whole, like, Motto Terminator chase scene right here is like, it's okay. It's competent. Yeah, it's exciting. I guess. But the movie tricked me, though, because I was like, now we're getting going. All right, Terminator's set up. And then when it's over with, you're like, oh, no, this movie's terrible again.

Pardon me. And Marcus is upset because. They get kidnapped. He winds up with blood moon goud. Yeah. Blued moon. They get kidnapped good too because they just like drive off a bridge and they just like, oh no, they're dead. And it's like, oh, no, they just fell into that robot cage.

What are the odds, dude? I guess that's good. I guess they got lucky. Well, this is another, like, how is he not a fucking robot? Because he falls off the bridge and he goes like, you see him skip on the river like a stone. Again, like in your mental check. list. Okay, I guess I missed the apocalypse. I'm not

peeing or eating and I'm invincible. Maybe I'm a... And also everything's digitized now. Like, you know what are you seeing? I haven't slept for three days. Exactly. That's a great question though, Steve. Because every other movie we have like

the main Terminator you get like Terminator vision. The PLV man. Yeah. What is he saying here? That's a great question. I don't remember previously looking at everything in red and then being able to see people's stats just by looking at them. I didn't used to be able to get stats. Maybe it was because I got the death penalty.

Yeah, something to do with the lethal injection. Then I was sleepy for a while. I used to guess that people were overweight, but now I know that they're overweight, just by looking at them. I could see whose clothes fit on my body. Turns out this little girl isn't a target. Glad to know them.

My hair is not gray at all. Just good jeans, again. He meets up with her They kind of have They go to some like She's like I'll take you to John Connor Because that's where they were going anyway That's the movie

And this is like when the movie doesn't know Whose movie it's supposed to be It's either it needs to be either The John Connor movie or the Marcus movie And like one of the other We got too many cooks here I know and it doesn't even do the parallel thing It just kind of gives you like a lot of Marcus for a while

Yes And then we're sort of back to John for a bit Like just when you've forgotten about the other story I'm glad here's John. Yep. Still going on everyone. She's about to get, like, attacked. He beats up all the dudes there.

Again, and this is like some super fighting. Yes, he's doing super fighting. Again, be like, okay, I saw that dude's stat. I could see that he had like a knee replacement, and that's where I hit him. I didn't know karate before this. That's weird. Maybe I'm a robot.

And these are like other humans that are like scavenging people. That's weird. We're going to see. We're going to dip into that for. two seconds and then never explore it again. These fucking dudes are like, hey there, lady, you know. What's your name? Moonblood, dude?

You look like a moonblood, dude. But yeah, that's a thing. Again, I mean, that's like walking dead shit, but like, yeah, that's a thing. Like how society has devolved, you know. Come on our farm, free a charge. I mean, Skyny could probably just hold out and let humanity eat itself at this point. And you're invincible robots anyway. You might have to wait.

Just hold on the food. Just wait it out. Yeah, what are you going to do? Your battery's not going to run out. You're not going to rust. It's okay. I would love to have heard what Mick G. told Moon,

good about, like, just the con... Talking about the character. Yeah, it's a grim apocalyptic future, and there's almost no hope. Also, would you get naked? Would you like to show off a little bit for us? Was you naked?

There's no nudity in this movie? I watched the director's cut. Oh, I... Oh, there's a director. There's like, good. glimpse of her topless like Sam Worthington like looks at her and it's supposed to just like

oh he is you know he has human feeling ew it's really gross do you hear a clang dong oh god he just looks down and it's the sound

of a doorbell like I used to look at naked women and be aroused but now it just keeps saying not a match not a match I don't know Wait, at what point does that happen? I guess probably the next scene

Right before the scavengers show up. Oh, I see. There's like suggesting that I kind of want to rape her even. That's in the movie. That's in the movie. Okay, yeah. So it's right before that. Hey there, pretty mouth or whatever they say.

They're doing that and they also want her antibiotics as well. Oh, right, because he's like, oh, those are mighty hard to come by. I'm going to steal them from you. But this is when Marcus starts running some serious. Like, he's good at this because they're like sitting by a five. He starts running some serious diagnostics. He's sitting They're sitting together

And she's like I want to get so Like he beats up He saves her So she's already like Pretty impressed with this dude He's a good looking guy She's like hey

Shoot that one dude The thigh or something Yes She kind of takes some revenge here A little bit I mean she's not like a damsel In the stress She fights some dudes

And all that stuff But she's like Oh I want some body heat Which and I mean like you know This is when she should see Something's up Yes Like he's got a heart

And a brain And that's it They reference his heart Like 40 times It's outrageous. I can feel his heart beating. Sort of a John Connor-sized heart. Sounds like a match.

I know that heartbeat anywhere. She has a heinous fucking line here though where she's like putting her head on his chest and she's like, wow, you have a really strong heartbeat. I've always loved that sound. Yeah. What are we doing?

It's like first week of freshman year. this lady's looking to hook up. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally, dude. Orientation Weekend. It's hilarious because she's just like, oh, he's like, I'm not a good guy, which is always a good line to use if you can pull it off. And then she's like, oh, no, you're a really good guy.

He's like, no, you don't know what I've done. And then she, like, leaves it alone. She's like, chill, yeah, what I mean, like, there's, like, not a good guy. I get into bar fights sometimes. And there's, like, not a good guy, like, other stuff. And, like, you want to find my brother. and his girlfriend or whatever that crime was, that crime of passion, that happened.

I took a shot at Reagan for Jody Foster, like, not a good guy. It's the future. I feel like I'm not a good guy. I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever. We've all eaten a baby at this point. You know, it's rough out here. Yeah, we're living the road.

Let's get to hear all your sob stories. Let's get to fucking, come on. That's all we've got. That's literally all we have left. Literally, only thing we can do. Yep, we got guns and roses tapes and we can fuck. That's it. That's all the society.

He's Skynet trying to, like, they get Marcus because he's a murderer criminal. Like, if so, that's interesting. Like, do they have John Wayne Gacy inside a robot body? Oh, that would be great, clown robots. Bring all of the Joker again. Bring all the heroes back, for sure. Yeah, exactly, right? Jeff Dahmer going around killing people?

I would love if you, like, just stopped. When he has the realization finally that he's a robot, you cut back for an extended flashback of, like, them cutting his fucking skin off and like throwing the skeleton in the garbage you won't need this anymore the robot is made of bones

oh look at that heart wow keep that keep that what a heart and why does he need that if it's just a skin sack I mean I guess the idea is to trick people later but like I don't know

make sure you turn up the volume on his heartbeat so everybody can hear it and they think he's a person He gets trapped by a magnet mine Which is kind of hilarious Again, I hint you might be a robot If you walk through a magnet mine and it gets you Well, and it blows the shit out of him Yeah, it explodes

And now he is It's the second I believe it's the second of two Like built in For broadcast television commercial breaks in this movie because the first one is also right around here we cut back briefly to Christian Bale and Common are testing the signal

on one of these big ships and right when they're about to do it Christian Bail they're like this is where they tested on the little matrix snake first and it works and then they're like we need something bigger to test it to see if it's actually going to work and he goes let's test the signal and pray that it works

they just quietly fade to black I was waiting for a commercial for ABC to come on after it's ridiculous Next, we got in the middle. And, yeah, so they, they're like, oh, my God, let's get this real man to the hospital. He's got a heart, real man, got it. Oh, he's heavy. Make sure you're taking him to the human hospital, right, not the robot one.

You have blood or grease? No, blood, he's a human man. Let's put him up on this garbage hook. Oh, in that scene where they're testing the signal, common. absolute worst line. This is it. Skynet's Valley of Death. Thanks, common.

It is just you could hear the fucking win rustling, man. Every time this guy's got a line. Isn't there an actual legitimate the game has changed in this? Does he say the game? I think Christian Bale actually says the game has changed. That's rotten.

Oh, actually, then right after that, though, comment again. It works, man. The signal works. it's beautiful EVE dot dot Are you sure he's not a robot as well And that The robo paranoia

Sure exactly Like Christian Bill turns in me He's like you know what common You've been saying a lot of real Well stupid things Completely honest There's stupid boring things You're a robot aren't you

No feel my heartbeat Okay all right All right Human Hospital for you So the whole thing is like They bring him back there And at the same time, Michael Ironside has decided he's going to lay waste to Skynet. Sure.

That's the most important thing. The signal works. Yeah. It's going to shut them all down. We're going to bomb it. And then it's like, uh-oh. Kyle Reese is on the transport to Skynet. Which is the weird thing because, like, Christian Bale for a while has to like keep being like,

no, our future is going to be fucked up if you kill Kyle Reese. And it's like, our future is over, which is like, no, it's your future. Really? Yeah. And also, what does that look like? If he gets killed, like, is it like a time paradox, the whole universe crumbles in on itself? Or does he just disappear? What a twist ending?

That'd be something. It's just like, it turns into a huge black hole. All of the earth goes into it, and then the credits just start rolling. That would be a perfect end of the fucking Terminator franchise. Put the fucking rooster back on, dude. But there's nothing, there would be nothing wrong with John Connor not existing, really. like if you could save humanity from robot skull beach land like die just let yourself die have michael ironside bomb sky net yeah who cares hey if you can cut this down 30 minutes

and then just put like when in interstellar when they go through the black hole yeah that's the world imploding i'm fine with it that's something you saved me a little bit that's actually how you know before you even go into the theater that this movie was trouble because this is a Terminator movie it's under two hours I was kind of excited about it I mean I was excited yeah right but I'm just saying

overall but I also feel like this before we every movie needed to be two hours and 91 minutes long like everything has to be again I mean because wasn't Avatar particularly long? Avatar was pretty darn long

yeah almost three hours I think God is Avatar actually like the center of so much cinematic trash long run times 3D obsession Sam Worthington blue people right dude those Smurfs movies came after this yeah that's all three uh trolls too some of the trolls yeah we get a look into one of these people camps and like this guy tries to climb out this is where we see the Terminator with the headband

classic he shoots him in the back which is exactly the way I want to go please Terminator shoot me in the back I'm in a fucking death camp what do I care would you be upset though as you like plunge into the afterlife? You don't know whether or not you were shot by a person or a Terminator? Oh, I would know it was a Terminator. How would you know? The precision in which it happened. Oh, that murder was precise.

Oh, that was a metal bullet, not a human bullet. Oh, right between the shoulder blades, you got me, Terminator. Oh, Christian bail line that's rancid right here. So they've chained him up, Sam Worthington, like Christ himself. Yes. And as he's coming

to you just hear Christian bail go, the devil's hands have been busy. Yeah. Keep the devil out of this movie, man. He means masturbating. I also feel like if you're saying stuff like that, you've got this other radio thing. Right. You have all these followers, et cetera.

He's got to have like three child brides you don't know about. He's got Bryce Dallas Howard for sure. Right. But there's like four or six. You need to make him David Koresh. That's what it has to be. The ATF doesn't exist so we can roam free. No, no, no. I was going to say they're all living in a shatterly built house.

There's only two women in the resistance. It's Bryce Dallas Howard and Moon Bluedgoode. There's no like sort of, yeah, quasi. Don't forget Star, late George. Oh, of course, yeah. Like the movie did, but we will never forget. But there's no like women in the background or anything like that. It's all like a bunch of, I don't know, dudes.

There's a lady scientist when they're trying to kill that Terminator Snake. Okay. She's got like two lines. John Connor executed all the other women. as betrayers. Oh, I see. Yeah, they all betrayed me. Well, he's hanging from,

what are they hanging from a hook? And everyone's like, you're a robot. Everyone's like, you never had any like surgeries, hip replacements. You've never been sick. A day in your life. You've never taken a sick day.

Yeah, right. Oh, Bruce Willis is a robot in that movie, guaranteed. You're right. If you haven't urinated or defecated, 901 hours and haven't experienced pain. You might be a robot. You are so right on the money that like even if,

even in the Terminator future, the blue collar comedy tour shit is still going on. Derry Fader is in the ruins of Vegas. Dude, his fucking racist puppet act. You're right, dude. That shit would live on. This is when he looks down at his open gaping chest and yells,

which is hilarious. It's pretty dumb. It's like, asking this guy to be in an 11, and it's physically impossible for him to top of four. Yeah, he's a real four. This is how little this movie cares about this thing in reality, though. If you watch the trailer for this movie, there's a shot of him with the open metal chest. Oh, really?

I think it's the first or the second trailer, the one with the Nine Inch Nail song on it. And like, there's just a plain center mask, the shot of him with a fucking open chest. That's awful. because like everybody knew why are you doing this it was so obvious yeah what else could it be why would we care about this guy i mean it's obvious in the movie but if the movie's even making an attempt to do that to cover it up and make it a twist if you're the person cutting the trailer you have to be like well all right i saw the film and they're trying to keep this under wraps maybe we won't show him as a fucking robot with a metal rib cage in the trailer i don't get it

i also don't like what does it add to the movie like it's better off of he knows he's a robot the whole time and, like, is trying to fight his better instincts or something. Or, yes. Right. Or at the very least, do a better job at covering up the fact that he's a robot. Yes. Because it's awful. Well, I mean, the first thing is first, like, wait, are those magnet minds?

Okay, yeah, we're not doing that. We're going to go around the magnet minds. Any magnet's not so much. So this whole thing is like Blair, by the way, is Moon and Blued Good's character's name. She's like kind of already clearly in love with Marcus, you know, so

and the robot thing didn't throw her that much because she's like, I don't see what that goes. You gotta take what you can get. Exactly. Wherever you can find it at this point, it's the post-apocalypse, man. And also like, I don't know, see how that's like, I don't know.

If there's handsome robots walking around, I'm gonna see what's gonna happen. I mean, he's got flesh on his body. Does he have like a dick or something? I mean, that's the real question. Yeah. Well, I mean, Arnold did. Arnold did.

You get a peep of that ball sack in part one. I think Bob Patrick was. flashing something in part two. They give them genitalia. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Awesome. Because, I mean, if you're infiltrating a human organization.

Sure. You can't just have a fucking Ken doll bump. Well, that's what I do when I meet somebody new. I touch the genitalia to make sure they're a person, and then I move on. And you feel the heartbeat. Yeah, yeah.

Hold on. Let me give you the robot test. Left head. Left head heartbeat, right hand, and genitalia. Okay, you're fine. Moving on. Sorry by that, David, by the way. Oh, no, it's fine.

look I came into this home so the whole thing is like she believes him whereas Christian Bale and Bryce Dallas Howard are like we're gonna fucking kill this dude he's a robot you know so she breaks him out

and I love it where she's like well now that I know you're a robot I'm not going to take any care as to how I break you out and she just like drops him and he just clangs to the bottom of this pit that he's in pretty great. Another robot sprained ankle in this situation. Now he's in real trouble.

Crocky me ankle. And this whole sequence of like, oh this is where it is. This is the second fake long take. Yeah. Is where she's trying to get him out of the camp. They're all firing at them. Yeah. You know, and it's a lot of just like a tree goes up in

front of the camera kind of like you know, hitchcock and rope kind of shit. This was the second, the motorcycle chase with the big Gundam robot I kind of looked at. This was the one, like, I'm looking at my phone. Yeah, I don't think I remember any of this. Because it's just, it's so long and, like, there's so many ins and

out, you know he's going to get out. Right. The next thing I remember is them in the office building. Yes. Yeah, no, I mean, one, two, three, Skynet Road or wherever it is. Skynet court. Yeah, right. There's two things specifically I remember about this thing. One, they do a,

and I guarantee you, this is what got Worthington on, is they do the great escape, the shot from the great escape of McQueen going over on the motorcycle. older cycle and Sam Worthington's doing it. I'm sure that was a huge selling point. They fucking stole it from the one week video too. Yes.

But also it's like it's like the vampires and Buffy thing. The Terminator like Moving a television program. The television program with the shadows with the sunlight coming in. Like he they're in a tunnel

and they're Michael Aritz's like blow him the fuck up. Blow them right the fuck up. Yeah. And they shoot a missile and like the terminator just lays on her and she comes out completely unscathed. Yeah, oh, that's right.

Yep, totally. He's like, get out. Hey, he's gonna blow. And then Christian Bale, like, is almost killed by a bunch of sea snakes. And they strike, and Worthington saves him. Well, this is, it's a ridiculous, like, Bail is in a helicopter. They drop a bunch of napalm to, like, really get this robot good.

And then he's, like, fly down low, like, right over this little river. And we got to make sure we see this dead robot. whatever and this dude flies down and the snake things attack the chopper and this thing's given John Landis flashbacks. This fucking helicopter's flying all over the place. We've got one!

This whole thing like crashes, this poor pilot gets murdered but of course John Connor's totally fun. And he's getting ready to fight this thing and then this is where Worthington saves him. Yeah. And they have this little standoff where it's like, dude, I'm telling you your fucking future dad is

going to Skynet and we got to go stop it and he like lets him go kind of a thing. How do you know he's my future dad? How does anyone know that? I don't know. I don't have that information. We listened to 19 episodes of your podcast. Well actually, right before everything blew up there was a DVD of Terminator 2

came out and I watched that right before and his name came up. Well yeah, because it was in one of those steel cases so that survived all the blasts. Yes, that's the thing. All steel books survived all of their movies are gone Big Lebowski Jumanji and all the Marvel movies Perfect

What a great society that would be I would love if Steelbook and Criterion Got Together just for the Criterion Well in the future they're gonna have Yeah they're gonna have to To fight Skynet I think my Blu-ray of Raiders of the Lost Dark is a steel book

Now that I think about it Yeah Think of it as a refrigerator that Indy's hide's in. There had to have been that, right? There was like a special edition, DVD, that fourth thing. They should have done that. Embrace it.

Collectors fridge. Yeah, like, everybody hates it, but pretend like you also think it's terrible. Right. That's how you win them over. That is how you win them over. In my previous job, I dealt with Steelbook quite a bit. They were Charles trying to sell it stuff.

They're a Canadian and very nice. The Steelbook company? The Steelbook company? We're trying to get like Marvel movies. Yeah. Oh, you could put a comic book inside of a steel book. Oh, that's a complete waste. It never worked because it was like really expensive.

It didn't make any sense. Right. Unless you can print every page in steel. That'd be cool. Like an Iron Man one. Yeah. Oh. A steel book. Yeah.

Yeah. So they have this agreement that he's going to go sneak into this guy now. It's like, I promise I'll tell you when I get there kind of a thing. And then this is a great like power struggle because Ironside is like, I'm going to bomb this. this robot factory. And he's like, no, no, no, John Connor's fighting with him. So Michael Ironside relieves him of duty, which it's like, I mean, nobody. Commanding officers, give me a break.

It's the apocalypse. Nobody's getting paid anyway. It's not even a thing. Right, like rank, whatever. But it turns out like all the airfields in Southern California are Conner loyalists and refuse to answer Central Command. John Connor gets on the horn and he's like, all right, it's a new episode of Concast. It's the shortest one ever.

All I have to say is nobody listened to Michael Ionside. It's a coup. It's a, that's a, it's a, say goodbye, boomer. Bye, boomie. All right, Marcus, who are you guys? Well, the T-800 was a clear inspiration. Oh, 101. The revolution is brought to you by Blue Apron.

Bender from Futurama, you know, he's on my Mount Rushmore. Ford's Model T, which is kind of, of the first Terminator I imagine Oh yeah That Model T took some lives Dude absolutely Definitely think about it

Like someone got hit by a Model T Now we got to get into this Because we I had beef with you When we were at the comedy store I was doing 10 minutes You were the soda machine I hit you a couple of times Things happened

Maybe that's one of his guys Dude the Coke machine Sure Was the Stephen King movie we did there Oh a maximum Maximil Overdrive Yeah yeah I just loved how he was hitting the guy with the coke cans and fucking hilarious.

Personally, I was a big fan of the ATM. Oh, right. Yeah, he calls him an asshole. Guy called me an asshole. Great moment in that. Also, Christian Bill fed a cat to an ATM or tried to feed a cat. Oh, that's right. He's got a long story to history with abusing ATMs.

So, yeah, he gets there. It's kind of hilarious. Marcus walks into SkyNet, and they, everyone, all the robots know him as Marcus. It's not like the T-whatever. It's like, Marcus, White. Welcome, Marcus. It's like George went walking into cheers. Marcus!

They just let him walk right in. It's so weird. It's supposed to be creepy, but this movie's not. Like, I could see a way this movie would be like all the machines kind of bow to him or something. Like, you know what I mean? Or like, there's something about that, but they just doesn't know. They just fucked up.

They made a bad robot. They're like, oh, yeah, it'll be great. I'll infiltrate, death penalty. It'll be great. And it's like, oh, we forgot he's going to, like, fall in love with him. Fuck. Shit. Stupid love.

They should have taken out that heart. That's the problem. I should have taken him off the guest list. Couldn't think about nudity. Yeah, he's persona non grata. Exactly. Cyberdine. You are not welcome here.

You're not on the list. Then he fucking patches a goddamn USB cable from his brain into this computer and learns the history. Like, come on. with this. Then you get some real good Sam Worthington acting, the, oh, the pain of remembering knowledge. Oh, no, not, oh, ah. And then Helena Bottom Carter shows back up.

And this could have also been like a nefarious thing. Yeah. But it's not instantly, you know. She's just a computer lady. Yeah. But it's not even like her though. It's just, it's sky net. Because she's like, oh, I can take any form that pleases you. Like, it should have been a thing like she uploaded

her consciousness like into it and it turns out she was evil the whole time because that makes sense because she was dying of cancer like that's kind of what they're trying to get at that they're all evil right? Was that not the idea and they're just like I forget it exactly yeah like I'm gonna live forever now like I don't need my body that could be the thing but the second

then she turns into like fucking what's his face? Transcendence no no that would have been good no I'm just saying she turns her face into like Antoine Yelch and she's like I can look like whoever you want kind of thing I had the subtitles on for this Yeah, it was just like whenever she talked It was like Skynet says

Yes, I did too because it was your classic Like we're whispering and then the robot explodes kind of a situation She gotta get those wireless headphones dude You do I just do I don't have them And so she's like yeah blah blah

You're an infiltrate bot You did a great job You brought us John Connor and he's like No He's very upset again He also passes out in this scene like three times They do do the thing where they like Oh, we, I thought it was for a sequel set up because, like, he has got a fucked up.

It's not a great Terminator face for a little while, like, kind of a haves-y. Oh, right. And then he comes back and he's got like full flesh again. And I'm like, oh, they gave him more flesh for what reason? There's a bullshit. He fleshed him. They fleshed him back out. Show me them taking flesh off some kid in the cage.

Graphic it on. There's, no, there's some bullshit line when Bryce Dallas Howard's, like, observed him or whatever. And she says something about, like, it's real enough flesh, but it grows back at a faster rate or something. I mean, I think when he's in the little Darth Vader cube or whatever, they speed it up. I prefer Eric's idea. Slicing the kids, putting it on the robots.

It's like little kids going through the gears like Charlie Chaplin in modern times. That makes sense. I'd take it. I would take it. But she's like, yeah. And, like, the other thing, too, is, like, you as a robot have to understand this person's got feelings because she's like, you're evil. And you're always going to be evil. And he's like, well, how about this?

Like, ease him into it. Be like, no, no, no. John Connor's bad anyway. It's better for the humans. Right. This is all, like, sell him. Like, this is, like, Vader's seducing Luke to the dark side, right? It's like, look how strong you are.

Yeah, sure. Listen, it's a lost cause with the humans. Yes. We're taking over. logical society, whatever. And even if it's a thing where he's like bullshitting, at least have him like, quote unquote, fall for it for a little bit. John Conner isn't as charming as he used to be on news radio.

Now he's a libertarian for some reason. He had Elon Musk on before the world ended. Come on. Right before the world ended. He dared talk shit to Michael Ironside. That's a total sin. How do you have Michael Ironside in one of these movies and not make him a Terminator? You know what I mean?

It's right there. Well, the bad name is Ironside. It's right there. It's right there. It's right there. Maybe they had to rewrite the script again. He was supposed to be a Terminator. Be the most haggard Terminator ever.

By the way, around now is when he explodes. They just bought that entire submarine. Now, I don't know if I understood this plot point correctly. Helen Abonam Carter is like, yeah, we gave them this signal. They think that it's going to shut us down. So it's a phony baloney. Yeah, they set that all up to. There's no way.

There's just some fucking signal that turns everything off. They're robots. They're not that stupid. Airpoint. Yeah, no, we are indestructible, unless one, two, three, four. Ah, shit.

You guessed our past go. You're right. Fuck the resistance as a game genie. Now we're totally screwed. But I think, it should just be hacking. Any machine war movie

should actually just be hacking. People plugging into the internet doing like cyber space fights. Totally. Not like shooting robots with a gun. Yeah, yeah. That is an extremely inefficient way to fight a robot.

Well, you know, there is the single hacker in this movie. is the guy at the very beginning when the team goes in and Christian Bill's on the and the guy's like oh they got this and he's like clickety clacking

but then like that nuke goes off and they're all murdered anyways that guy's not a character he was the only guy oh no we lost the computer oh it's the one guy well I guess we're just shooting these robots now

John Connor can hack ATM machines back at T2 they should have him do a little hack he does do hacking actually we should say he does hack a motorcycle to make it a motorbike a motobot to turn it into a motorcycle And then what is the thing he's got

a Terminator's eye that he holds up to the I don't know the retinal scan or whatever Yeah yeah yeah Why you would have a retinal scan for a robot Anyway it doesn't make a whole lot of sense Be like robot or not robot Exactly like well yeah

Are there tears like a robot Access like oh Frank you don't have clearance For that you know This is like T-800s or above Sorry buddy You're just a T-450 You fucking loser This bathroom's for T-800s all I'm like

Oh fucked up it's so fucked up dude uh but they he rips uh marcus rips like the the control chip and the scream chip out of his head and throws it away and now i'm a rogue terminator which again like if you're building terminators you shouldn't be able to let them do that you know what i mean like that should be not a possibility yes exactly 100% it should be like terminator's best kept secret at least yes because they do have some mention of like if you hit them in the back like the stem of their neck where the sky net control chip is, which Anton Yelchen does do a Terminator in this movie, and he just gets like

drunk, dizzy for a second. Kind of funny. Yeah, because Connor is trying to save Anton Yelkin and basically now Marcus is rogue. Marcus is rogue, but does not want to be in a hospital gown? He's like, well, I got to get an outfit. Like he spends some time getting dressed. Well, he's still, I mean, he's got the mind of a human. Yeah, he's not going to be running around with his ass hanging out, trying to save the day. Terminator with a shame.

The shamanator, absolutely. And yeah, this is when like Arnold, CDI. I'm actually going to say this was one of the better parts of the movie. I know everyone hates this CGI creation, but the whole fucking movie is this

like sepiatone, ugly. At least it looks like something. Yeah. It's like, because it lacks so much lighting, the CGI is like, okay. The CGI is fine, considering this is 10 years ago. And I don't know how much advancement we really made. Well, I mean, he's kind of looks like Arnold. He's fighting the Irishman at this point.

You know what I mean? Pesci comes out. He's got like a cup of wine. That would be great, though. Like little fake Arnold just has those creepy blue eyes that De Niro's got in that movie. He looks like a fucking robot with those things. Yeah, he looks creepy. It's like the eyeballs in white chicks.

a lot can happen in a lifetime you could be terminated but did Arnold Schwarzenegger get paid for this or no like did they just own that face probably rumored yeah you gotta give them it's the Crisp and Glover thing I don't think you can use likeness unless you're licensing and then again they're like look

this thing's this movie's bad we're abandoning this your governorship's gonna end in disgrace soon enough you'll be in the next one don't worry about it well I don't think he ended in disgrace. You just couldn't do it anymore. Sure. But he went back to that.

He went back to that. Went back to. Did you read what Arnold was like, when this movie was coming out, he's like, oh, it looks great or whatever. But then he quickly, like, disavowed it and said it was terrible. I think he saw the fucking CGI. He was like, oh, no, I should have said, yes. What have they done?

I like that it looks sort of like him in pumping iron. So I just kept up thinking about this terminator saying, I love to come. I'm coming at the gym. I'm coming at Skynet. That's the thing. it's almost a little too young. You're right. It's like pre-84 Arnold.

But that's the idea, right? It's like, yeah, no, there's still, he's not rape yet. Right, yeah. It's still like Hercules and New York, Arnold. If the new idea is like the flesh ages, then it kind of makes sense. That's true.

Because that's how they explain Genesis. They're like, yes, if you just let him sit, they get old. Which, I mean, which makes sense, though. It's fine. If he has actual, like, they say, you know, flesh on him, it's going to age. Right.

That was a thing in that movie that I was like, Yep. Makes total sense. I will totally go with this. And not for nothing. Gray Fox Arnold Schwarzenegger, Terminator, not too shabby. I like the gray beard. He looks more like a person than Sylvester Stallone does. Oh, of course. That's not hard to do, though. There's like a name for him in Genesis. It's like Oldie or Bobby. They have like a name for him. Yes, he's got some.

Geyser, maybe. I love a geezer. What is it British slang? Gaser. Now Dave's Did you see Rambo Last Blood? I did not. No, it sounded very unpleasant.

It's really bad. Oh, you did see it. Oh, I've seen it. I also have not seen Rambo. The fourth Rambo movie. Oh. And I do have a weird completionist streak. So I was like, oh, I should watch that.

Oh, but I hear that's bad too. I never, I just never got around. That movie's got a lot of, like, CGI people pop and, like, grapes because he's constantly using huge, like, truck machine guns. All the blood is CGI in that movie. You could really tell and it's pretty terrible. It's like a 2008, we don't have like Squib money, but we bought the special effects CGI starter pack.

He ripped out some throats, maybe? Yeah, he's just one throat rip. There's at least one throat rip. The Squib budget isn't big, but like chunk budget is high. Like, parts of people flying in the air, they bought a lot of that. A lot of people pieces in that movie, totally. Also, it's a thing where he's trying to save,

like, Christian missionaries in that movie. I was like, let those people go. That's fucking fine. Did you find the nickname? Pops. Popes. I like it. Pops Fresh and Meyer.

That's not bad. It's kind of cool. I'm going to rewatch that movie. Why not? Yeah, what are you doing? I think I'm gonna, oh. I've actually never seen it. I might actually watch it before I see Dark Fate.

That's the reason. I was in the theater's opening weekend for that Genesis. But is this another, is this another aborted trilogy? This is like the David Gordon Green Halloween. it's like you had one and two and then that's it even three's wiped out as far as I understand dark fate is wiping out everything but the first two gotcha but Genesis was yes

another attempt to do it I don't know but in that I mean they totally forgot about this movie but did Genesis acknowledge the third one? No because Genesis is like Jesus I think it's like what if Sarah Connor all that stuff happened to her

Right. But an arny robot A good arny robot showed up and didn't die. Uh-huh. No, I've lost it. I don't remember what it is. You got you convinced me that you're going to get it.

It sounds like we're due for a rewatch every one of us around the corner. I mean, so this is a big factory fight which is your classic Terminator ending. But a little too long, I got to tell you. I mean, we're pretty much in a foundry. You're totally right. But I'm checking my watch here.

This fight is just so stupid because we get the T-800 assembly line so it's like oh they're building all the arnie terminators right one of them is like oh no the uh the cg i one gets burnt up yes and then it becomes a skeleton and that's the one he continues fighting yeah and to the point of which like they burn yeah they burn it and then there's a liquid nitrogen pipe going right through sky net which seems like a bad idea yeah that's your weakness that's the one thing you don't put anywhere near you exactly i mean i guess he needs cool it and it freezes this guy? Oh no, is it Bail name?

Bail's fighting now. Bail's finally back. Yeah, now they're sharing screen time again, yeah. And like they wind up like Marcus gets beaten up by this road, but he's dead for a little while. This is when Bail freezes it. Yes. But as it starts to come back, by the way, there is a hilarious part

where Christian Bale screams the little girl's star. He's like, you move! Dude, I love it. Too real friend. This is when he's asking every single human like, where's Kyle Rees? Do you know were Kyle Greases and then Star the only person who knows Kyle Reese

he's just like move it get out of here get the hell out of here little girl get your ass away from there I'm gonna fuck up your lights little girl you move that light on me little girl what scene was he supposed to be filming it's a scene that's like not in the movie

and after all that I know that it was an emotional scene with him and Bryce Howard oh we're a lot of those in this movie It was some, like, tearful, God knows what was going on. Maybe it was the scene that we needed. We're talking about like this little boy bars. This movie needs a few scenes.

There's a lot missing from this movie. That scene also has a Terminator in it, though, because the other guy in the shot is a Terminator. Oh, wait, what? Yeah, if there's a guy in, like, the guy, he's, like, walking around him. Okay. It's a guy in a green box who's supposed to be a Terminator. Oh, that. That's what is awesome about that.

I mean, again, you have to, I mean, like, I don't, I think Christian Bill is totally out of the line in that whole rant. By the way, that isn't a piece of the internet. It holds up to this day. It does. It'll still get chills. I thought it's going to say get chuckles. It's the best part of this movie. I do think so.

Without question. Also, maybe. It's the only memorable thing. Well, the arcade video game Terminator Salvation that is in every single movie. is a good game. I have played that game and it is perfectly fun. Do you guys remember the Judgment Day one though? The Judgment Day is a good game. That was

classic. Why are those guns so damn heavy? That was, yeah, I don't know. To make you feel like you're really in the fight. Even if there's a guy with an orange Julius like right in your sight kind while you're doing this. But you have to cry and some guy is dressed like a green gloop and like you're trying

to get there. And some guy starts fucking with the lights. I do understand. that he is at a line like it goes up the thing is like if he just yelled the guy like dude you're an asshole and moved away right that's it yeah it just keeps coming out of it yeah I'm fine with it I think he lost me when he punched

his mom in the face personally like that was kind of I don't know his mom I don't know what he punched his mom in the face he fought his mother yeah he like at some point like it was around this time when he was troubled who threw the telephone oh that's Russell Crow Russell Crow but no he like speaking of I don't know if he punched her. He definitely

struck his mother. Yeah, like, not a good guy. It's at Simpson's joke where Dreder Tandum comes out of jail for throwing his mother down the stairs. That's Christian Bail. That got him the Dick Cheney role, I think. So whatever,

this is when Bail is, Bail revives Marcus, Marcus saves him. This is, we got to talk about that. Oh, please. Because he's, like, dead. And Christian Bale is punching this robot's heart. I know. Come on. Come on.

Just, like, you can't revive a robot that way. That's the whole thing, though. It's like, Bayle feels like he's like, right. What this needs is so much intensity for me. That'll, like, get this over the line. Yeah. And instead, you're just like, gosh, you can't make Sam Worthington act.

You can't do it. Stop trying to do that. Stop hitting him. That's what the come on was. He's trying to reactivate the acting button in there. Emote. Emote, damn you. so yeah he does wake up he wakes him up he saves the day but bail gets impaled right

by something but he gets impaled well done well done sorry you get to bailed uh and mark is like oops and kind of like drags him out he doesn't like again you're a robot like lift him over your head you know what I mean like he's doing the thing we're like we're walking each other out there's a third guy that's helping drag him out and also like John Connor is kind of walking yes what fucking planet are you on a fucking metal rod went through your heart he's tough

he's a tough tough plus savior yeah that's why it looks like the midnight run fucking poster yeah yeah they get in a god

god love at a helicopter of course and bail's got some nuclear bomb that again like I want to give a little bit more runway between my tiny

helicopter and this nuclear blast I'm about to set off absolutely right and this was a thing where it was like all the two 800 hearts are nuclear and he like sets off like this like he puts a string around all of them and he's like all right that'll do it I think is he tying like dynamite to that like grouping them together because he's running around planting proximity minds through part of this movie I think yeah it's kind of like it's kind of like yeah it's kind of like yeah same trick same situation same exactly thing. So this thing goes up. Oh,

because the little girl has grabbed the detonator because he drops it at one point. Right. But then she's got in her

boot or whatever. And we're like, oh, great. And that's why she was here the whole time. It should have been her that

fucking pulls the switch. Yeah, sure. Instead of like handing it back to John, kind of like, here you go,

Jesus, push the button. Then we're in like an honest to goodness mash unit because the war all the time,

war, war, war, war. Bryce Dallas Howard's like, oh, he's dying, it's his heart. And then Mark's like, say... Speaking of hearts. It just rips it out with some chest.

Now, we have to talk about this. This is a completely reshot ending. Yes. Which is crazy. He was supposed to just... Well, there was a couple ideas floating around, though. Which one did they film? McGee claims there was some, like, death ending

where everyone just dies, right? Yeah. That's bullshit, I think. I think he's just a liar. I hate to call him a liar. I think he made that up. Sure. Or I, well, I don't want to call him a liar.

I just, everything I heard was that the test ending was they put like John Conner's skin on Marcus's, yes, metal body. But he didn't lie, he mixed exaggerated. Come on. Mixaggerated. No, I want to look this up. And then, so the irony would be like, oh, John Connor's actually a robot. Yes. John Connor dies.

They put his skin on because he's such a good. symbol for the whatever. Right. That's the whole thing is like the symbol continues. They need to reserve Connor as an image. But then he's actually a bad robot and murders everybody right after that. That's the thing McG claimed was the like second twist. Yes. But there's no way that was the twist. No studios

to be like, yeah, sounds good. Oh, you're going to kill everything, right? There's no sequel. Right. No. Yeah, especially if you're anticipating this is going to be the first of a trilogy. Which they were. Well, in Genesis don't they make like, isn't John Connor kind of a villain in that or I'm murky on that? Yeah, he's a nano

Well, because the Matt Yeah, he's sort of like a secret robot in that movie. Because they like change time. Yeah, there's like two, like Jason Clark becomes evil halfway through that movie. And then Matt Smith is another version of John Connor maybe. Oh, so Jason Clark said it's a three people passed.

Okay. There was another one where the first trailers are like, is Jason Clark good or evil? And then they had like another trailer like, he's evil. Don't worry about it. Like they're just like, I don't know. Forget it. By the third trailer you've seen the movie. By the way, It's a real problem that we're saying things like third trailer.

It is. Like, it's teaser and then a trailer. Preferably society would just have teasers. Yes. We'd be a completely teaser society. And that's it. 30 seconds. That's all you get to tell me about the movie.

And that's it. I want every trailer to be the fifth element teaser. Does everybody remember that one? No. It's all words, isn't it? Yeah. It's all words. It's just like a planet and all of a sudden the planet explodes or something like that.

Yeah. And that's it. And then like there's a tag. or something. I don't really remember it, but yeah. That could even be the teaser for Green Book. Like, just fucking anything, I don't want to know the whole story. Man, I'd love is some shit fucking blew up

in that movie. No, you're not getting my ass in the seat for Green Book unless I see Vigo Mortensen flipping that pizza in half. Actually, that's all I would have needed. That's the teaser. If he just event horizons, that pizza. That's the whole movie. It's just him eating pizza.

In various entertaining ways. But so Marcus is like, no, I'll do it. I'll give you my heart. Whatever. He does. He gets a lethal injection for the second time, which is the funniest fucking thing. Because they got him like hooked up.

I mean, it's not the same exact thing, but they got him all hooked up to shit. And you see like chemicals dripping into tubes and then he just like passes out for the ninth time in this movie. But the bummer about, not the bummer, the bungling of this ending is you get a Marcus narration,

which it's kind of the whole movie, right? It's like, whose movie is this? Marcus does the narration. Like, I guess everyone does have a really important. important heart. And then Christian Bill's like, no, no, no, no. Actually, the resistance is continuing and there's another one coming. If you're out there, a second movie is coming. There is no faith for what we make. It is such a dud ending. It is like helicopters and they're like, so yeah,

check back in, Terminator's Sivision 2, more of this. You like this, right? We'll be more of this. Like we should not see five helicopters in the distance and suicide is painless starts playing. That should not be happening. It's just such a shit ending. It shouldn't be a war movie. It's not a war movie. It's not whatever. Also, this is a big problem. So this was the last film that Stan Winston never worked on. He died during production.

This movie's dedicated to him and you're like, okay, that's fine. But then he's got to share this dedication with the producer's father. Hey man, I don't know. But I'm just saying Stan Winston affects legend. This dude

at, what was he, a fucking accountant? I don't know what this guy is. It's not like a birthday card. You can't just sign it also. We're dedicating it to Stan. What if Stan Winston went back in time and impregnated the banana? No, that wouldn't work. I don't know.

That's going to work. Some guy lost a leg doing this movie. And Mick G. Dedicated. He wanted to dedicate to the leg. An old lefty. No, but he was like, that just kind of speaks to how rough and tumble this movie. It was kind of the thing.

It was like, we're not doing Star Wars where it's all. green screen and tennis balls and blah blah blah we are ruining people I actually nuked a state that's no entire state it's not all green screen it's like 75% it's actually most of a green screen and that 25% will make you lose your leg motherfucker like what are you talking about dude he has the gall to talk about green screens and how shitty they are when you have sam worthington in front of that Hollywood sign it is awful and it should it killed his career. Yes.

Instead they handed him this means war which obviously now everyone's like oh yeah well that was who remembers that movie but at the time

it was like the hottest script in Hollywood like who will play the men of this means war was that a blacklist script?

Yeah it was one of those things yeah but they're always bad they're usually it's almost always bad yeah what was the last good one

I think Manchester by the sea was on it oh okay was that a blacklist I think it was for some reason that was something

that Lonergan re-re bro. I think the original I remember reading something. It was some Lonergan script. And I don't think it was Margaret. We all could agree that it could use some Terminators, right? Yes, absolutely. Oh, Manchester by the Terminator by

the C dude, absolutely. It's just a Terminator. He's fucking yelling at that lady about fixing her apartment or whatever. I have successfully terminated my kids. I was, I went to the store and I didn't realize that the

Terminator Space Heater was left off. Oh, what's the ice thing? Oh, it's so good. I had a joke. It's gone. Oh, that's all right. I just remember reading some stories. Because Matt Damon was supposed to direct that movie in Manchester by the scene. Right, right. And like, the original script.

He was like, Boston? Shit, how Boston? The original script, only one kid had died. And then apparently, Lonergan was like, I'm going to take a hack at it. And then he was like, he, like, baby it back. And he was like, three kids? Well, you know, it's better than one dead kid, the script. Three dead kids.

Yeah. It needs to be bad. Wouldn't be happy. Originally there were six. You could get over one, but three? That is the end of this movie, thankfully. We will start with our guest here this evening. Sir, would you recommend this movie? No!

I love it. Short and to the point, absolutely. An enthusiastic no from David Sims. Over to Chris Cabin. No, also. I watched a five-minute playthrough of this. the arcade game before I came here much more entertaining how are you filming

a play through of an arcade game some guy was doing it nice you get emulators and mods oh the old emulators yeah I'll do it it's a no for me it's it's dull grim blah blah blah I yeah and it is a one two three four

like that's Terminator just goes right down the hill I haven't seen Genesis but yeah five is like yeah it's like a dead cap bounce it's a little bit yeah totally one two three five for you know yeah yeah i agree with that listing i would also not recommend it but i do think you couldn't possibly make a good terminator in this time period of the mobile war seeing the machine wars yeah i think i think you can do it they they just haven't get the lasers going yes

it's kind of have laser i can't believe that yeah fucking can't believe edit one on your course correction lasers i remember a terminator two where that that that grizzle john connor he uses binoculars. I don't see binoculars in this movie. Not a single binocular to be found. Yeah, I will say I watched the pilot of the Sarah Connor Chronicles and then never went back. But I remember thinking

like, yeah, okay. I get it. It's got Garrett Delahunt. That's sort of something, right? It's got Lema Healy. Yeah. Oh, SummerGlau, of course. He was a terminate tricks. Yeah, she's a robot and then Lena Heidi is Sarah Connor. That's something. That kid, though. That kid, though, I don't know about

that kid. He's bad. He's a Thomas Decker, terrible. Thomas Decker. I'm sorry to say it. Kind of a stink pot. He's got to hear it, David. Little Decker's guy here. David, you're doing him a favor.

So McGie's a liar. Maybe he shot an ending, or he showed in the studio. What do you think? He kills everyone. You're into this? We want to thank you for coming on. So this has been a lot of fun. Just quick plug your stuff.

Anything, anything you got? Yeah, a blank check. Griffin and David, wherever you get your podcast. We do director's filmographies. It's great. Everyone in this room has been on it. Absolutely. Are you still doing Miyazaki right now? Yes. I guess. Although, by the time this is out, we're wrapping up our Miyazaki series. We've got Jonathan Demi coming

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And then another 15 on Bill Paxton's haircut. I would take a bite out of both of those. So that is patreon.com slash we hate movies. So next week, as always, we hate movies rolls on. There's another episode. Steve Sadek, what are we talking about? I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.

Oh, fuck me running. Oh, boy. Having your cake and eating at the movie. That movie is like, we can do like a bunch of jokes and at the end pretend it's all good, right? that we're really empowering. So you'd recommend it?

So until next week, when we cover Homophobia, the Motion Picture. I'm Andrew Jupin. Eric Siska. Stephen Siddak. Chris Cabin. David Sims. Take it easy.

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