We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 460 - Gremlins

Episode Date: December 24, 2019

On this week's Christmas Edition of We Love Movies, the gang is chatting about the all-time Christmas/horror classic, Gremlins! How about the great Dick Miller in this movie? How much does that Burger... King stick out on the town set? And why is Phoebe Cates serving the Gremlins alcohol? PLUS: Country Funk's Hoyt Axton being fed full meals while sleeping is a thing that's discussed! Gremlins stars Hoyt Axton, Zach Galligan, Phoebe Cates, Corey Feldman, Dick Miller, Frank Welker, and Howie Mandel; directed by the great Joe Dante. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, it's Gremlins. I'm Andrew Jupin. Dun dun Dun, Dun, Steedek. Chris Cabin. I'm Eric Siska. And we love movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the program, as always. Thank you for tuning in. Yeah, like I said, up top. We're talking Gramblins, man, from 1984, directed by the great Joe Dante. I'm just glad Duntada could be here today. Dun, Dan, Dan, Dan, Steven Zana. I got to say, what's the music kick? is a jerk this movie fucking kicks ass
Starting point is 00:01:03 once that music kicks in it does once it happens you're like holy shit that's the music yes it's very exciting but the music I was noticing at this time watching the movie the music makes the movie sort of like winky winky like looking at the camera because all the
Starting point is 00:01:20 gremlins are singing the fucking song and I was like the gremlins know that this is just a movie and that means the gremlins transcend reality absolutely that happens a lot the second one. Come on, Hulk Hogan versus the Gremlin. Well, that, yeah, that in the second one, you were just acknowledging up and
Starting point is 00:01:35 down that it's a movie. This actually, I think similarly to our Terminator episode, I saw this second. I saw Terminians 2 in theaters. Oh. And then I saw Gremlins. Were there any gremlins in the projection booth?
Starting point is 00:01:51 No. Grimlins, you get out of that projection booth. But did it scare you? You were like, oh, they're here in the theater? Honestly, but when the fourth wall broke. I was like, was that the first time you'd ever seen that happen? Yeah, I had no idea that you could do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 No, I surprisingly saw, I didn't see Gremlins 2 in theaters, but I did see these in order. It was like rented them in the order of existence. I think I saw them in order but then I saw two, 10,000 times and I saw this like five. That's me because I don't, I remember
Starting point is 00:02:23 rewatching this like right after college and I didn't remember any of it, but I could say, gremlins two line for line throughout the movie easily well i think two was much more of an HBO movie for whatever reason yes yeah yeah this is but it's christmas so we got to talk about the gremlin's the ogy i think it's a superior film we'll get to that to what two two gremlins two the new bow really okay i mean they're they're both good yeah i'm just gonna be that's a terminator terminator two situation i don't think it is i think it's much easier yeah yeah so you're
Starting point is 00:02:56 number one as well i think one is a better movie two is sure sure fine, but two's like, it's a bit much sometimes. They dial it up as much as possible, which I kind of appreciate because this is like cartoon stuff. But this is like, I don't know, like this movie, like it's a small town movie and it's like a small time
Starting point is 00:03:13 movie at the same way. I don't know. This one's more also horror-esque because it's like, they're actually kind of threatening when they're going after the mother and whatnot. Oh yeah, it's getting terrified. But they're still cute and fun. Of course, so we have fun in the bar. Even though the bar gets a little dicey too. Right, yeah. Yeah, we'll talk
Starting point is 00:03:29 about that. Chris Cabin, I cut you off, though. What were you going to say? About... A Gremlin's 2V1, maybe? Or now? Oh, too late? It's just gone out of their head. I didn't know it was being cut off. I will say, I owe to a rewatch and actually watching this mix of one. I haven't seen it a really long time, but it's not or... No, it is
Starting point is 00:03:45 a Christmas movie also? No, it's not set a Christmas? Is it summer? I think we're just set in the big... I think it is summer. I think like Dick Miller, Mr. Futterman goes on vacation to Manhattan and that... Hot town summer in the city. The building explodes. You could simply says that there was a fat gremlin on it
Starting point is 00:04:01 and you couldn't get him off. Do do. Do. Do. Gremlin's do. Mr. Futterman, climbing down a cable onto a boat. Dude, he just falls into the river instead. He totally misses it all. So he's dead.
Starting point is 00:04:20 This movie starts out a way. Duck, gremlin. Gizmo is about two steps shy of becoming a full blown alcoholic. He stepped on so many toes in this department. One stop. One stop. Well, somebody
Starting point is 00:04:37 ate dinner after midnight. All gremlins don't know how to use guns, you racist mother. So Simon Gruber unleashes the Gremlin's into the bank. To fuck with the security systems. Dude, that's like the dark night.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I was going to say This movie starts in a way It has no business starting with Which is the dad narrating this movie It's always been a thing where I'm like Get the fuck out of here, text, whatever your name is It's Hoyt Axton By the way, he's an okay country musician
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah I've only heard like one or two songs by him honestly There's a great compilation How do you come across just one or two songs You either listen to that dude's music? Well, I could tell you. Like greatest country hits of something. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:28 There's like a two LPs set, country funk. And it's good. And he's on like part two with like California women or whatever. Did that come with your house? Yeah, it did. It's like, oh, you're buying, you're moving to the country and you have a lot of weeds. So those actually grow from trees. Were they calling it funk tree?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Sure. But actually, Hoyt Axton, a little tidbit, wrote three. dog nights joy to the world get out of town yeah so he's responsible for that terrible song yeah it's not a great song wasn't he playing a sheriff in what the fuck was that movie we did oh i think with tim matheson buried alive is he in that probably is he the sheriff in that movie sure let's say he is because he has come up at some point on the show before um and i i was just i was trying to guess without the use of the internet so now i'll just confirm it now audience i got a story to tell you jeremiah was a bull
Starting point is 00:06:24 frog and he was a good friend of mine he uh that in that intro apparently this movie there was a two and a half hour like rough cut of it so the lock got cut out is that one of the things that like fans are demanding be released i've never heard of the i mean the dante cut no no i mean it was just a work
Starting point is 00:06:42 print you know what i just released the work print but um there was a scene before this that they cut out that is necessitated the intro narration being a little clunky i kind of like this intro narration because Because it's like film noir-esque, it's like really weird. I'm a traveling salesman. Some dame sent me up the river, so now I'm down here in Chinatown.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, that's true. Also, I didn't need another scene of him, like, selling to someone. Because that's what you know, that's what it was. It was him trying to get the bathroom buddy to somebody else. Sure. And then my heart breaks every time I have to fucking watch him to do this shit. Failed inventor. Dude, I, listen, I have a really hard time respecting someone who's like,
Starting point is 00:07:21 my main profession is sitting at home being, quote, an inventor. No thanks. That's some silly ass shit, dude. And your wife fucking hates you for it, Hoyt-Exton. Well, I mean, like, those jobs are usually like, oh, you know, I was an electrician, and then I had this idea while I was doing this thing and I rerout it. The actual light bulb was above my head. And I made the George Foreman grill and sold it to George Foreman or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, those are things. Yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 people who it's like, oh, I just came upon a thing because I came up with an idea, of course. Like, that's how, like, innovation happens. But sometimes, guy who's like, I'm going to sit in my garage and just think of inventions. Right, because he's got like an egg cracking invention. He's got an orange juicer. He's got the bathroom buddy. The notion of like shit that's totally fine and you're making inventions to make them better. Like the mom has like the remote control to answer the phone. Just pick up the phone. Yeah. It's totally fine. Well, this family lives in terror of this guy because they all have to use his garbage and like they don't want to. It's all just like polite
Starting point is 00:08:24 smiling and grinning. And you can tell they're much more at ease when he's not in the house. Oh yeah. They're beginning around much better. They love his month-long business trips. Oh, you're going to one of your conventions,
Starting point is 00:08:35 so I see you later. Dude, this Inventors convention that's happening on Christmas Eve? Okay. Well, this is, I, I had the same thought as you, but then I realized that having an inventors convention on Christmas Eve cuts down the holiday suicide rate right in half.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Right, you're getting them all together with, like, might be my big break. Exactly. You get them something to do on the holiday. It's a lot easier. Because those all are people that would fucking jump off a bridge. The bathroom buddy definitely has like a razor that comes out to slit your wrists. Hey man. Hey man, just talk to this robot. It's okay. Things are going to be better. There's a robot who wants to talk to you. Roby. The robot is in the movie. Doing a deal. He's doing a deal over the phone. I mean, now we're just jumping to this convention. Is that okay? Is that all right? This is what WLM is. So at this convention when he's on the phone, in the background, fucking H.G. Wells is the time machine from the 1960 movie is in the background.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. And then when they cut back, they cut to the mother, he's talking to the mother and they cut back to Hoyd Axton and time travel worked and the thing is gone. Oh, I noticed that. It's so good. I wasn't paying attention that it was a time machine though. I was like, oh, they just moved that car. Well, it's kind of great. He's like, oh, yeah. He's like, oh, yeah. The whole convention's really good. A lot of really good ideas here. I'd probably do better next year. He was like caught with a Benster. Like the fact that everyone's got good inventions but him. Yeah, I showed a broken egg cracker
Starting point is 00:10:01 earlier today, hon. We're going to get you that hamburger for Christmas. Confirmation. Sheriff Sam Eberley in 1990s buried alive. That we definitely did an episode on. He shows up at this place in Chinatown. He's trying to sell, I think he's trying to sell businesses
Starting point is 00:10:18 his, you know, hey, here's not just a one-on-one, basis like hey look take the bathroom buddy sell it in your shop i have a question which chinatown great question yeah i mean i guess this is all america usa yeah i mean you can almost assume that's just what he calls china well like when they cut to the town it's just kingston falls yeah i was on a plane for 18 hours to get to china town that's why he's a bad fucking salesman no strategy just fly into china it is yeah and this is you get your early 80s Asian mysticism boom that we had going on there.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Well, they all have these secret basement stores, dude, haven't you been to Chinatown? Complete with kid in Yankees cap, by the way. I'm looking at you fucking Steven Spielberg. Yeah, totally. We're fucking sharing the prop department, dude. That's what I think this is about. So I guess that confirms this would be New York's Chinatown. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Or at least an approximation of. Maybe it's flushing. I feel like there's something in... Oh, it would be a Mets hat if... Yeah, probably. Greenleins 2 is definitely the city and I think there's something about later in that
Starting point is 00:11:24 like they're like oh in upstate blah blah blah where I grew up Oh you're right but it definitely is New York because Gizmo is in the New York City Chinatown That's right
Starting point is 00:11:34 The start of Grimals 2 I thought they moved though I mean I would fucking move With this fucking nightmare machine You got here This fucking world killer That you're fucking jacking up with I haven't seen it in forever
Starting point is 00:11:47 But I believe there's like They're gonna bulldoze the shop They do bulldoze the shop in the beginning. To build a tower. Yeah. Right. One of my favorite things that Hoyt Axton says in that narration, though, is the way he says Chinatown, where he's just like, I was walking the streets of China Town.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Like, it's a fucking alien planet. Like, he was so confused to use Chinatown. So he goes and he meets this guy named Mr. Wing and his young assistant or nephew or grandson. I think it's a grandson situation. It's a basement shop like we. said, and he's like, oh, what? Basement. You're going to kill me down there, boy?
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's what he says. What's going to go on down there? Which is a smart move by Hoyd-Axed. Dude, you get rolled real quick. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You didn't say anything about stairs. Papa's knees are pretty bad these days. Let me just remind you, little boy, that the travel buddies got scissors in it. Why don't you? I will defend myself. Oh, bathroom buddy. Why don't you get me a rug, and I can sit on it and try to roll down these stairs without
Starting point is 00:12:52 breaking my neck. This guy Hoyd Axton in this movie is a great big fat guy but he's like one of the last great big fat guys that I feel like could beat the fucking shit out of me. The reach of this guy it's like yes it's fat but it's all callous somehow. He's like the kingpin he built like a fucking doorway
Starting point is 00:13:09 dude. This dude Jonathan Winters was that way just a big like bear of a person he'll fucking break your neck with his own hands this going down the stairs reminds me of that time that I was when I was a kid trying to buy
Starting point is 00:13:24 liquor in Atlantic City and this guy tried to take me and my friend under the boardwalk to sell us. I'm like, I'm not going down there. How old were you? Like 13. No, no, it was 16. Sorry. Steve, haven't heard the song under the boardwalk? Good things happen on the other. That's right. The best things happen on.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But, so he goes down and he's like, tries to tell the guy the bathroom buddy. He's not into it. Obviously, Mr. Because it's a piece of shit. It looks like a fucking ham radio. Why don't want to carry around this Nintendo GameCube. And it's like everything is like glue. It's like everything you need in a bathroom glued onto it.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So it's got like nail clippers. So it'd be really awkward to fucking clip your nails. Yeah, the same thing with the toothbrush. And the shaver, my God, the back end of this shaver that I got a maneuver. Also way bigger than any bathroom kit bag you would ever have. Exactly. It's humongous. That's why this dad is a joke.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He's a lover. He's a loser. He's a lovable loser. but he's a loser. Family a loser. I think he's a monster. We'll get to this later. But I think he belongs in jail for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But and it's 1984, so he can be a complete fucking failure. Yes. And just fall face down on every single thing he ever invests in. Right. And still have a giant house in this beautiful town of Kingston Falls. It's, it's, you're not wrong. Even especially like, so he overhears a little noise like, oh, what's that? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's a crazy little. Hobgoblin. I need to have one of them there, hobgoblins. And he's like, it's going to be for, it's my son's present for Christmas. First of all, your son's already working a fucking steady job. I know, he's like 24 years old. This kid. Get this kid
Starting point is 00:15:04 in present. Well, you know what, dude? Because he's still fucking sitting up in his attic bedroom reading comic books. Okay. But there's a little bit of stunting going on here in this house. Also, my feeling is that is originally a grift. Yeah. Oh. To say like, oh, I'm looking for a thing for my son.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Will you buy this piece of shit for me, please? Well, then he totally gets screwed over if it is a griff because he gives that kid $200. Well, where is he getting $200 in 1984 from on this business trip where he isn't selling anything? He's taking a total bath anyway. Yeah. The motels, the prostitutes, he's way down.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Steak dinners every night of the week. This guy can't survive without a steak a day. He's like a lion. The fucking genuine size of this man. But he's like $100. No, $200. I need to have this hobgoblin. I'll throw away my life savings.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Get this hobgoblin for my little son who's 23 years old. And he's like, Mr. Wing's like absolutely not. Not for sale. It's not a, you know, it's a very dangerous thing. By the way, this could destroy a whole town. Let me tell you, it looks cute. It could destroy a whole town. You know, Mr. Wing, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'm just saying you need to be specific about what you're wanting here. If you do X, Y will happen. Well, I really want this, Grimmon. Well, it's just the 25th year in a row that Billy won't get the college fun I have for him. Here's $200. But he will love this gremlin boy. But it's, maybe not even to the customers, but to your grandson be like, look, this thing
Starting point is 00:16:36 over here, like I know we're always playing fucking games and it's great over here. You get that thing wet, we're in huge trouble. You feed that thing after midnight, the world is ending. Oh, and by that, I mean midnight, Beijing time. so 11 a.m. Yeah, what happens if you go on vacation with Gizmo? Hilariously, they actually bring that up in the sequel. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:16:56 There's this long discussion about like, it's Dante making fun of himself because it's especially a bunch of guys in room being like, well, what happened? Because they learn about Grimms and it's like, well, what happens if this happens? It's all like things logically you would think about. And like, it's Dante being like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:10 it doesn't make sense. Fuck you. Hey, that's fucking Chris Columbus's fault with this movie, buddy. He's got the sole writing credit on this. Right. This might be the best thing he's ever. done. I think so, probably. Well, apparently, like, he was in kind of a darker place when he wrote this.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like, he was just kind of like a... Just hating Christmas. Yeah, I mean, that's what's a great about to be. That's why I love that we're releasing this on Christmas Eve is it is exactly a dark Christmas movie. You're probably listening. If you are listening to this on Christmas or Christmas Eve, you're not having a great time. So good for you.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Fuck Christmas anyway. Let's hang out. Let's watch fucking Grablins. Let's watch that old lady get fucking thrown out a window. More hanging out on Patreon, by the way. Patreon.com slash we ain't movies. Don't be an Ebenezer and help us injured boys out. Don't be a Scrooge. But what is his first name? Ebenezer. But nobody says it that way.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Well, I know him on a first name basis. We go way back. We were in the war together. That delivery was much like George Costanza was like, let's play two. What a great day for ballgame. Let's like, too. Yeah, more podcasts are available on that Patreon. He winds up, he buys the fucking thing. After the grandson is like, hey, just, listen, man, just go stand outside. I'm going to deal with my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And it's clearly like, all right, grandpa, go to bed. I'll close the store down. And then he goes, grabs the basket. You've never shut the store down the full. Well, no, no, no, I'm getting a lot of older, grandpa. I need some more responsibilities. But I haven't even told you which key is the one that's, okay, that seems weird. How much you think of this $200 the grandfather's actually seeing?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Or is it going right up this kid's arm? It's just... Yep. I think you nailed this 10-year-old's arm. Wow. Hey, buddy. I'm hitting some sweet fucking scag. You should mention the two thuds in this sequence.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You kind of docks the movie a little bit. That makes it not age as well. Yes. Is there, Hoyt-Axton mentions dragon breath. And there is a gong noise in this scene. So Hoyd-Axon just says, what is the context of dragon breath? Look at the bathroom, buddy. In case you got dragon breath.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Gong. Oh, bad breath. Jesus fucking Christ, dude. That's terrible. I totally missed that entirely. Yeah. So he says dragon breath. He excuses himself, says bad breath, and then a gong.
Starting point is 00:19:31 No, the gong is in between. Oh, the gong is a corrective gong. Right. Yes. Chuck, Chuck Barris was over there. Yes. The gong is him being like, oh, racism. They got it.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. Oh, it just comes out of me sometimes. Sorry about that. I said it. your face. I'm supposed to say it later. Sorry, I got to reserve it for my secret inventor podcast. All those words, they should be in my diary. Manifesto, really, but I'll call it a diet. I got an interview with Saturday Night Live coming up. Oh, you fucking SJW's got Rand Peltzer canceled. He's a best inventor. So he sells, he gets sold the thing. And it's
Starting point is 00:20:16 the three rules which are don't get it wet don't feed it after midnight and no no direct light oh right don't don't yeah don't shed light on it well yes no sun no sunlight yeah it's no sunlight don't get it wet and never ever seriously this is the bad one because it's going to turn into a fucking monster right
Starting point is 00:20:34 and then the movie starts and we're out of like this weird cultural appropriation scene and it's like we get baby please come home and we're in fucking white America where this movie needs to take place because it's all about white people. First words on the screen. Steven Spielberg presents.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Of course. I know. I mean, that's how it works. But you know, God bless him for like giving Joe Dante this big shot. Oh, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:58 in the 80s, he was producing a lot of good movies. So I give him credit for this quite a bit. There is a, so this is like the same little town square that serves as Hill Valley and whatnot, you know. One gross difference though in this movie,
Starting point is 00:21:12 uh, definitely Zach Galligan walking right by a Burger King. Just right fucking there, there's a Burger King. And I was reminded of, what was that, Monster Squad? Oh, right. The fucking weird Burger King in that too. Also, back to the future. Oh, he, that's where Doc Brown lives.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That's right. Doc Brown lives next door to the Burger King. That's the previous episode. That's like an actual standing Burger King, though. I kind of like, I mean, I love the way that they make this town. Look, I know it's just the back lot, but the snow, like, it's like packed with snow everywhere. You can't move without snow. It feels really.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Is this supposed to be like Midwest? I don't know I have no idea we kind of maybe it's New York possibly up or New York well that's what we just discussed was the sequel I guess confirms that this is supposed to be somewhere
Starting point is 00:21:57 in upstate New York does it well it's Manhattan right right okay but Steve was saying there's something about they mentioned like going back upstate or something I don't know I haven't seen it in a while there is a Kingston New York I don't know about a Kingston Falls New York now how is Kingston
Starting point is 00:22:11 Eric it's fucking getting hip out of nowhere I don't understand it I don't So yeah We got baby please come home We're just watching this town wake up kind of a thing These are some of my favorite kinds of scenes Is like small town waking up
Starting point is 00:22:26 You have the fucking I love the crooked cop Trying to get a free Christmas tree Out of the Christmas tree cellar Why don't you throw some ornaments in there too I don't have fucking ornaments It's a Christmas tree store What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Well that's a nice pickup truck you used To deliver Christmas trees Would be a shame if it got towed You know, Owen, those DUIs could go away pretty quickly. And the bullets in my gun could go in your head. Also. Just letting you know if I don't get this tree. Give me this tree now.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You also got Corey Feldman, a very young Corey Feldman, as the little tree boy here. He's like dressed as a Christmas tree to sell them. You can't tell that it's Cory Feldman until later in the movie when he delivers a Christmas tree. Also, you can't say tree boy in a movie where there's magical creatures because there's going to be an actual tree boy. It's a good boy. We meet Billy, who is Hoyd Axton's son, and here's the thing. I mean, like, I'm, I want to be on Billy's side. He's the protagonist of the movie.
Starting point is 00:23:22 He's got some good kills. He saves the day a couple times. You can't be a grown man and bringing your dog to work. Like, this is like fucking frog in your goddamn suit bullshit. It's so sad. And it's clearly not the first time because there's, like, newspaper under his little teller station. Like, dude, it's a bank. Like, I know there are some offices out there.
Starting point is 00:23:43 that are like dog friendly my office is dog friendly I brought Marty like twice yeah sure I have a feeling this is like an everyday thing with this guy they're like oh here comes fucking Billy again he's got that goddamn dog with him I used to work at a kid friendly office I felt the same way I was like oh god he's got that goddamn kid with him like that stick of the kid under his desk
Starting point is 00:24:05 with all the newspaper and you know that kid could just be pissing all over the floor pissing shit everywhere uh Zach Galligan's car isn't starting, we meet the legendary Dick Miller is Mr. Futterman. Yeah. I love his whole thing. The sole purpose of this character is to complain about
Starting point is 00:24:23 foreign influence in American consumerism. It's just that character and he does it very well. God damn foreign cars. That's why your car won't start. It's a foreign car, but I got a fucking Kentucky made tractor. Oh, dude, the Kentucky Harvester.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But it's kind of great because it's not a It is a small town and blah, blah, blah, uh, idealism everywhere, but it is like, you're not supposed to like this guy. Like, he's like a ball because of the performance, but it's like, oh, like this guy's kind of an asshole, like even, and Billy likes him enough, but like it, it's the move, what I love about this movie is the dark edge of everything. Oh yeah. It's a perfect like anti-Christmas Christmas movie. It's like a lighter version of like a Twin Peaks Christmas. Like there is some shit in the underbelly of King.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I mean, we'll get to a scene later where we get a slice of Dick Miller's home life and my I might as well be in a Mike Lee movie. The good Mike Lee movies that he doesn't make anymore. We're introduced to Mrs. Deagle who has the best fucking death in the movie. She's like
Starting point is 00:25:29 she's one of these like oh it's the old matriarch of the town. One of these people that should be put right out of their fucking misery but everybody's scared of her. So we do get a scene with Mrs. Peltzer watching It's a Wonderful Life on television. so I feel like this character is like a Mr. Potter. Oh, definitely, right.
Starting point is 00:25:46 We are dealing with that. Lynn? Yeah, Lynn Pelzer. Isn't Mr. Potter supposed to be Mrs. Dietel? What do you mean? Deagle. Deagle. Well, no, that's an air.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's an approximation of like the, you know, the capitalist shadow that's overtaking this. Right. And it's a bank. Yeah, exactly. She's got a hand in the bank. There's a lot of things about her buying up the town kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah, there is a sign that's like the, like, like deagle real estate or something like that but like she is a piece of fucking shit man she comes into this bank and she's holding this like ceramic snowman head and she goes up to billing and is like your dog knock this down and he's he's apologetic
Starting point is 00:26:25 offers to pay for it immediately and this fucking garbage person is like no no no no I want that dog because I'm going to take it to the pound so they execute it like she could pull strings at the shot through that dude this whole fucking crooked town's in her pocket all pieces of shit
Starting point is 00:26:41 They're injecting animals and children or whatever for her every day. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the actual, the frosty the snowman's head. I found a magical beast in the woods and there's a snowman and I took his head off. She does say it's from Barbaria, so it could be a cursed object. Hey, I got a dog. Put him in the 10-day suite, if you know what I mean. Give them the 31st Day suite. Ma'am, this is a toddler.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I don't care. the 31st day's sweet. And Zach Gallaghan's like, oh, she says like, and that, it'll be quick and painless, and that'll be preferable to if I got my hands on him. And he's like, well, what would you do? And she's basically just like,
Starting point is 00:27:24 well, I torture this animal to death. So they're putting in the dryer and spin cycle. And the dog, who's like this super smart, your 80s, super smart, sentient dog, understands that this lady is talking about his death. Doesn't some guy go like, that'll do it? That's the thing. That's the thing, these fucking cowards
Starting point is 00:27:42 that just cowtow to this woman, dude. She's like, I'm going to execute this dog via torture and this fucking old piece of shit that runs the bank is like, oh, that'll do the trick nicely, Mrs. Deagle, you are a genius and may I say quite beautiful. I love this dog. Played by a dog actor named Mushroom,
Starting point is 00:28:00 a classic dog guy. What was Mushroom in? He was in Pumpkinhead, actually. Oh, really? Yeah, a storied career. Playing Barney in this movie. I don't believe he plays Barney and Pumpkinette. No, yeah. It's two different characters. Not a shared universe. It would be cool if it was a shared universe. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Then Lance Henriksen could come after the Gremlin's... When Gremlin's age, they become pumpkin heads. When they become Lance Hendrickson? Yeah, I'm just a 67-year-old Gremlin. Can't believe I made it this long. I ate after midnight. This is what I look like. Yeah, that's right. I'm a gremlin that start on the
Starting point is 00:28:35 television series Millennium. That's why he's so thin and frail. You can see all his Bones popping. I ate after midnight during the French Revolution. I was actually a flasher gremlin by trade and then sure enough that led to the
Starting point is 00:28:50 acting bug. I met Jim Cameron and here I am. A couple of years in miming school too but hey everybody's got their off years. Speaking of horny for this old lady and kissing her ass Judge Reinhold swoops in here as like the up and coming bank
Starting point is 00:29:05 co-managers. He's playing a real piece of shit in this movie. You're yuppie. It's the 80s. That's true. Like, he says something about, like, he's a junior vice president at 23. Yes. And that, like, by 25, he'll have the bank manager's job. And then by 30, he'll be a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:29:23 By working at this small town bank, okay. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever you say. Who the fuck knows how the 1980s economy worked? It's so long ago. Because, like, Hoyt Axton could have that mansion and lobsters for dinner.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Hoynex is dropping $200 on Gremlin. He's got a Gremlin budget. Well, I'll tell you. Honey, the Gremlin budget this month has blown up a bit. Are we actually using four gremlins, honey? Could we do with three? That's right, honey. I was ripped off by approximately eight Chinese men last month.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Hey, Billy, you love crypto zoology, so I got you this Griffin for your birthday. Oh, he's Bigfoot staying with us. in the Henderson's day. Honey, you got to park the car out in front of the house because the Minotaur's sleeping in the garage already promised him. It slipped the Minotor 200 bucks and he's staying with us. Honey, good news. Newt Scamander is in town and he has got a bevy for me. $600, honey, I have the pale man from Paine's Labyrinth. Coming to dinner. Billy, you ever want to meet Slender Man? So Judge Reinhold is like giving shit to Billy.
Starting point is 00:30:38 follows him to, like, the bar after where it continues harassing this guy. This is where he's, like, humble bragging about his promotions. This is the most amazing thing because Phoebe Kates, the great Phoebe Kage. Oh, my biggest crush of my childhood. Mine, too. She comes in, and she's, like, in love with Billy. It's so clear from the, from the get-go. But then Judge Reinhold is trying to get her to, like, come over there.
Starting point is 00:31:04 He's like, come on, man, I got cable. Dick Miller has cable Everybody's got cable What the fuck I have a fucking soda machine Because let me tell you dude Like back in the day Like in the mid-80s
Starting point is 00:31:17 That was still a selling point It wasn't an everybody thing But poor fucking Phoebe Kates man The only half decent dick in this town Is fucking Zach Galligan Who lives Who lives Who wants to be a comic book artist
Starting point is 00:31:29 But works at the bank Kids back then It was cable and chill He by the way A little legendary Gary cameo in this. This is weird. The scene starts, he's at the bar and he's like drawing. He's actually drawing
Starting point is 00:31:43 Mrs. Deagle for some guy. And this guy's like, oh, that's the old batch never look better. It's Chuck Jones. Yeah. Really? Mr. Jones. What? He's like, well, thanks a lot, Mr. Jones. I got to get going. Well, at least in the Wikipedia, as Mr.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Chuck Jones is Mr. Jones, Billy's drawing mentor, which I think that's like, welcome to drawing class Billy. Let's start with fucking bottle of scotch. Yeah, why don't you draw this still life of me drinking? Now, Billy, how many uppers you bring
Starting point is 00:32:14 today? Why don't you draw me a sexy picture of that bartender, Billy? Why don't you draw me that, Bill? Why don't you draw me one of that bartender at that kissing, Mrs. Deagle? You know what hentai is, Billy? Let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Mrs. Squidd Eagle, Billy. He sees all the gremlins up, and he's like, My dream is come true. Oh, yeah. Hey, I'm Hoyt Axton. These are pretty good, Billy. I'm going to invent a website called Deviant.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, so, like, yeah, we, we, we, the bar is kind of going on. We see the bar, you know, she, she works, and I kind of, this is, I kind of agree with Judge Reinhold here. Yep, absolutely. He's like, oh, what do you, she also works at the bank with Billy. That's where they flirt all day. And they also work at Judge Reinhold. And he's like, what are you doing, working at this? bar is like, well, I come in here on
Starting point is 00:33:07 Wednesday nights just to fill in so that they don't have to hire another waitress and he's like, you work for free? She's like, yeah, it helps the town. Like, no, dude. No, and that's the whole thing. Like, when Phoebe Kates enters the film at the bank, she's trying to get Billy to sign a petition
Starting point is 00:33:23 to make the bar a landmark because the very bank they work for and Mrs. Deagle or whatever are trying to like pull the lease and shut them down. How fucking valued is this? Well, then he's like, actually, the best line of this entire movie is they're talking about this bank
Starting point is 00:33:38 and Zach Gallagin's like oh I'll definitely sign that petition because whoever's tavern is where my dad proposed to my mom to which she responds that's where everyone's dad proposed to everyone's mom
Starting point is 00:33:51 yikes Kingston Falls maybe unpopular opinion I want this place bulldozed what? Because the fucking idiot guy the guy who owns it comes by in a Christmas fucking hat and is like
Starting point is 00:34:02 hey you see all those people around the billishable another round free on the house I want to burn to death in my own fucking generosity yeah I mean you got to charge for a drink you got to pay your fucking waitresses pal hate to break it to you
Starting point is 00:34:17 yep exactly what are we doing here what are we doing giving rounds of beer for free and you know Chuck Jones is a tip in anything he's a doodle it's worth five bucks here's a cell of the roadrunner it's worth like 10 grand but it's just his leg but imagine the rest of them there.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Can you actually give me change back for this? It's going to be really worth something. It's worth 10 grand. The beer was like 20, so that's 900, 9,000, 980 old me. Just give me a Speedy Gonzalez back. We'll call it even. Yeah, so then we, we, we, Billy goes home. You know, he's hanging out with his mom a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:57 We see the house. We see all the crazy. I do like that he's an invent, he's a crappy inventor, which is an early 80s trope. But he's not a Rube Goldberg inventor, like your Doc Browns and your fucking... No, but dude, it is so close with that fucking egg cracker. You know what does the job?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Your hand and the side of a bowl. Later in this movie, this lady, Mrs. Peltzer, is using his... The gag is it's always terrible. It explodes. It usually gets all over you. She's making hot coffee with this thing. Stare clear. You're taking your own life in your hands.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Dude, it looks like fucking brown poop going through. like a Play-Doh thing. She's like, I don't think I can drink this. And he's, he, like, Hoyd-Exton grabs the cup of coffee and he's stirring. And they're joking. He's like, oh, you don't think we could drink this? And I'm like, this is your livelihood, sir. Nothing you create and I guess attempt to sell, works at all.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You're a fucking scam artist. It's a joke. This shit is a hobby and you are not providing for your family. It's like when Krusty the clown approves all the merchandise that's like on fire and shit. Yeah, this is all fine. Hoyd Axton comes in, he's like, oh, Fala la la la la la la. And she's like, oh, did you make any sales?
Starting point is 00:36:10 I got real close. And Billy and her share a glance of like, Hey, mom. When are you going to leave him? When are you going to leave him, mom? Well, the glance is not only because he didn't sell anything, but he smells like J.D., like real bad.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh, JD and cheap perfume, dude. Absolutely. And we're just turning our heads, aren't we, Peltzer family? We're all just pretending like, Fala la la la la. Christmas time is here. Guess it's another week of Wonder Bread and Butter Sandwiches for us.
Starting point is 00:36:40 That's what we call Christmas turkey here in the Peltzer household. Fifteen, Wonder Bread and Butter Sandwich. Hey, kids, you want some ice cream? I'll take a bowl out to the snow bank. And he's like, well, Billy, oh, he's just like putting salt on fucking sugar. Sugar on snow.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Both. He's putting salt and sugar. Yeah, a little texture for you. A little pepper. The pet shirt. dessert it's a new thing now he uh he gives he's like oh this this pressure won't keep billy boy and it's it's uh it's the gremlin it's right it's the mogwai right uh which is gizmo played by howie mandel of all people that's right that's right that's right the uh the the 4k disc and it's probably on
Starting point is 00:37:22 the blu-ray also but there's like commentary and it's like jodante zach galligan and it was like howie mande was like the fuck and then i'd look it up i forgot right you know who but do you know who else is on the voice list right right the adversary playing stripe, right? Is Frank the motherfucker Welker. Fucking finally a substantial role. And they were running buddies apparently at the time because Frank Welker suggested
Starting point is 00:37:45 how he been del for the part of Gizmo. Oh, I thought you meant they were literally jogging partners. They might have been. No, running buddies, you know, you're at the fucking, they're at Studio 54 getting gacked on yay. Oh, totally, dude. Yeah, they're just getting fucking... They're getting sucked off at the same time,
Starting point is 00:38:01 giving each other high fives. Oh, whoa. Yeah. I'm going to go fucking audition for Gramblons tomorrow. I'm going to set you up, brother. I'm about to turn it to a gram. So he's like, oh, wow, cool. A totally new and, like, I would, if I saw this thing, I would fucking freak the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That's an interesting thing is the reaction to this creature is not realistic in the slightest. Except for mushroom. Mushroom. What the fuck? Mushroom understands. Right. The dog. Zach Allegan can't, like, at all be impressed that this thing is, like, mimicking the tones of his keyboard and starts just singing.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like, come on, man. How about a little wonder? It's not like it's just like another hamster. It's a good-looking puppet, obviously. I mean, the puppetry is fantastic. All the puppetry. The stop motion in this is awesome, I think. But it is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah, but that's where I would go with this. I would put a pillow over it said. Rand fucking Peltzer gives these rules. Like it's the fucking terms and conditions agreement on iTunes. He's like, yeah, maybe don't get it wet, I guess. Lights bad for it. Just press agree, Billy. It just doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He's like, oh, yeah, I almost forgot. Here's these three crucially important things that I should have told you the second I walked in the door. Now, here, Barney, here's some chocolate and grapes. Keep them out of sunlight, number one. Number two, give me JD, Jack Daniels. Number three, don't look, don't check my collars now. Number four, I've been inventing a kiss machine.
Starting point is 00:39:34 That's why the lipstick is there. Hey, Billy, I was working on the kissing machine. I invented the flesh light. We're going to be billionaires. Number five, feed me after midnight. Number six, don't feed it after midnight. Don't get those two mixed up. I want to be woken up at midnight and fed.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Put some ham in my mouth, Billy. You know what, don't wake me up. Just put the hand in my mouth. The whole thing doesn't have to be in my mouth. I'll suck it in as the night goes off. I snore anyway, Billy. Just get the ham, snoring ham. Billy, feel free to get creative.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Just put, you know, some snoozing spaghetti. Never hurt anyone. You can just squirt a bunch of mayonnaise into my open y'all. I do not want to wake up hungry, Billy, and I will know if I have or have not eaten while I slept. Look, the littlest thing you can do for me, Billy, just a little open-faced sleep sandwich. Number seven, don't expose me to life.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Number eight, don't expose it to life. That's the same rule. We both sleep in most days. I have approximately zero meetings to attend. I will die. It's hung over. Oh, actually, I mean, it will die. I'm hung over.
Starting point is 00:40:47 But so he's like, oh, wow, great. I'm 23 years old. Let me go up to my room. And again, I lived, look, I lived at home until I was 25. I'm not shit on anyone who moves home after college or doesn't even get out to college. It has to live with their parents. It's fine. But you got to figure shit.
Starting point is 00:41:04 it out, dude. And what you're doing is not figuring shit out. See, I think this is a town problem. This does not look like an apartment happy place. This seems like it's all zoned for houses. That's the thing though. Judge Reinhold dude, maybe then with your logic, Chris Kevin, he's living outside the city limits because he invites
Starting point is 00:41:20 Phoebe Cates to his new apartment. Oh, that's right. Well, here's what all that Billy needs to do. Because you're right, Steve. People have to live it home for various reasons. Totally fucking fine. But if you find yourself in a position where you are Well into your second decade on this planet,
Starting point is 00:41:37 you need to update the decorations in this bedroom to be age-appropriate. He's living in a fucking 10-year-old's room. He does have a road warrior poster, which I thought is pretty sharp. Yes, exactly. And you know, you do have to change shit around if you have to live with your parents after all, you know, after you're getting into adulthood. Sure. Number one is like you have to start feeding your dad when he's sleeping.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's important. Now, Billy, what you want to do is get in the corner with a little. a bag of M&M's and just toss those suckers into my mouth. If you get them in the nose hard enough, Billy, it will go down into my mouth. Trust me on this. You feed me when I'm sleeping. I'll eat when I'm awake.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ha. Oh, man, he must have put roast beef in there last night. Oh, my God, honey. Oh, I got some dream gravy on my shirt. It's a wet dream, dude. so he's like instantly best friends with this thing I do appreciate Mushroom his acting here
Starting point is 00:42:44 does a good job at like you know conveying that he's a little bit jealous of the situation there's a new fucking sheriff in town this dog is acting with his eyes like nobody's business this dog is tremendously good yeah giving Merrill Streep a run for her money absolutely like he's just you can tell he's thinking about things
Starting point is 00:43:01 he wants stuff like those dogs wants yeah yeah but so at this point like cori feldman shows up tree delivery he delivers a tree you know there's a lot of breakfast stuff blah blah and he's like oh wow mrs pelter can i go hang out with billy he's like right under a tree yell and push push and he delivers the tree oh i got you just like jesus christ was born this very night that's right he was born from a tree called old tenenbaum Oh, he was born from a tree, and to a tree he was delivered at the end. Nailed to, for sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It turns out he was the decoration. I did a school play kind of a thing about three trees that influenced Jesus' life. Oh, here we know. Are you shooting? And I played a tree. I think I was a tree that was the boat that him and Matthew were fucking around on. Some pagan stuff, dude. Yeah, but not.
Starting point is 00:44:01 A couple of young, sexy guys fucking around on a boat. dude, little donkey punch action there? No, it's like a talented Mr. Ripley. Oh, even better. Jesus kills Matthew, it takes his identity. Oh, right, he hits him in the face with a bodeore. I bet one of those three wisemen who were riding a donkey punched it at some point. But my teacher said that my performance was riveting.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Really? Wow, so that means like the rest of the auditorium burned to the ground? Well, Stephen, everything else caught on fire and died. You were the best of one. And best out of all the trees, too, huh? Well, it was a really cool play. It was sort of a new class performance, you call it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Oh, yes. And you stood out. So expectations were lower. Oh, yeah, definitely. It was the middle of the day. It was right after lunch. We just got to burn some hours here, man. We can only watch Free Willy so many times.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And so this is the other weird thing, though, where Billy, who's like 23, is like, hey, Corey Feldman, come up to my attic bedroom and hang out and read comic books. You know what? How about not being friends with kids? How old is Corey Feldman in this? Like, this is a young kid. 12 or 13 maybe yeah no i'd say he's a little older than that yeah but yeah like there needs to be more of a connection for this friendship like they're both in mr jones's drawing class yeah that makes
Starting point is 00:45:15 like that and like hey guess what billy you want to hang out with this kid that's something but you got to fucking keep it in the comic store pal and if he's if he's coming over to your house it's in the living room only we're not going up to and then billy's it getting changed it's okay daddy's my bathroom buddy you like that dad mentioned your invention i don't care man so long as you keep the the midnight chips in my mouth i'm all right now this is the most interesting part of the bathroom buddy here now you've obviously you got your razor here now here you got your dildo never know when that's going to come into play that's more of a short one's a more of a butt plug i'll be honest with you billy call him stubby stubby and eric siska as the voice of
Starting point is 00:46:00 Stubby the butt flow. I would do it. Dude, if they did another like brave little toaster movie, you could play Stubby the buttflop. I'm going in, boys. Seriously, 50 bucks I'm there.
Starting point is 00:46:11 No, no, 200 so I could buy a Gremlin. Oh, that's about 800 now. 2984, pal. Fucking Reagan. Corey Feldman fucks it up. Zach Allegan's got like a jar of paint brushes that are in water.
Starting point is 00:46:25 A bunch of it spills on Gizmo and we start popping fucking mug-wide eggs. here and he's like oh wow this is amazing i'm not like you're not throwing up immediately looking at this thing stomping on these things dude stomping it right out burn the house down i say it simply burn the fucking house what is the smell like when this thing excretes it's young is my question it's a great question steve because it can be any number of horrible smells and you know it's not a good smell there's a popping sound which which you know infer is wet to me you see a slight
Starting point is 00:46:57 mist yes but they're not wet themselves no Stuff gets real wet later. Yes. It's downright sloppy. I mean, Gremlin smell like absolute garbage. They have to. There's definitely burnt hair being involved. Like, it smells like that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:47:11 You ever meet somebody has a chinchilla. It's like that, but worse. No, I never have. Yeah, it's a smelly little bit. Billy and Corey Feldman put the fingers under the nose with that stuff from Sonsal Lamps. Wrongful death. So now, and he's like, oh, hey, cool. why don't you take this you're totally irresponsible 13 year old kid
Starting point is 00:47:32 why don't you take this thing and somewhere Mr. Wing is like those fucking white people I fucking knew it man I just got and he's like berating his grandson like I know because you've got to get it wet and he's going to give it some stupid kid yep yep and here's where he's a monster because that morning next morning fucking big motherfucker comes down he's like you that's what happens when you put water on him oh I could this could be the peltzer pet
Starting point is 00:47:58 yeah this could be i could set up a road sign this could replace the dog that's what he says yeah magwai's out of iraq out there in the front yard freshly popped magwai was it out of ira like as in as in the country no a rack gotcha no it's like uh you know billy this is appealing right so it'll be like every day's a garage sale at our fucking house wouldn't you like that son billy i figured out a a way to combat this aggression against Kuwait we'll just fill Iraq with
Starting point is 00:48:32 Gremlins. Oh dude, it would crumble in days because these things are fucking terrorists. Yeah, but then you would just have to nuke it, dude, because otherwise, like, here's the thing, gremlins, very intelligent so much so, they don't recognize borders. Oh, that's true. Yeah, this should end like a dream catcher or something where like the government comes
Starting point is 00:48:48 down to fucking kill everyone who knows about Kingsen Falls wiped off the map, dude. Now just a parking lot. Put it under the dome, maybe. Oh, the dome, of course. Grimland Dome. They were going to wipe out that outbreak town. I think they wipe out this place too. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, he's like, oh, well, you know, I better take this to maybe it's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I got to take it to a doctor. The only thing I know is my old science teacher, Mr. Hanson, who I'm still calling Mr. Hanson. And, like, Mr. Hanson needs to be like, Bill, you know, my name's Jeff, right? You know, you can just call me Jeff. Like, I'm only nine years older than you. It's not that big of a deal. Billy, you've dated my daughter. You can just call me, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That's really okay by me. The Mr. Hanson thing. It was cute when you're 17, now you're 23. I'm just like, no, man. We're skipping over one of the more twisted parts of the movie. So Billy notices that there's one with like a Mohawk and he keeps, he says this like four lines, at times in this movie the same line.
Starting point is 00:49:48 The one with the stripe is their leader. Oh, yeah. He keeps saying it. And so there's a quick scene where it's like the middle of the night. Zach Allegan wakes up. He's dressed like Bill Belichick's game day uniform,
Starting point is 00:49:59 this fucking cut off sleeve sweatshick that he's got. And he's like, where's the dog? Where's the dog? And the one with the stripe is like, he he and like pulling the covers up like all innocent.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like Billy opens the door and this dog is outside in a snowstorm hung from Christmas lights. Poor mushroom did its own stunts. It's like, oh, this scene sucks. There's another scene where mushrooms fucking doing his own stunts at the end, dude. And let me tell you something,
Starting point is 00:50:23 I don't think mushroom knew he signed off for that one. Nope. I mean, Joe was great. I'm not going to say Joe wasn't great, and he was helping me get up in there into the Christmas nights. He was very hands-on,
Starting point is 00:50:34 and I liked that about him, but I won't say that the insurance did not go over that. And also, honestly, he was very kind of me. He gave me some of Hoyt axed's ham. Hoyt was very upset to get it. We actually got a battled over it for a second.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Joe. Joe, did I see right? You just gave a canine some of my Hoyt ham. There's hoit ham and there's non-hoit-ham. You'll notice the non-hoit-ham pile is much larger because I've eaten all the other hand. I will eat that dog, Joe. You may also notice the hoit ham has a big H-branded into the side of the ham.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I'm going to be going to sleep in my trailer, and that dog better be in my belly when I wake up. Had to eat eight hams? That's not, didn't you? Fuck it up today. Joe, if I am not shitting a skeleton in the morning, and I'm walking off this set. So he goes to the science teacher and science teacher's like,
Starting point is 00:51:28 wow, this is a totally new sentient being that can kind of talk. Pretty interesting. You might have run some tests on it. And he's like, sure. Also like, what test? You're a fucking science teacher, washout, dude. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. It's like, you're not a science guy. You know that? You play film strips. Yeah, totally. You're setting up a fucking projector in the middle of the class. That day.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I think the other days he might be teaching a class. He's a world famous science. science teacher, according to his cabin. Yes, that's what I said. If I need someone to explain what photosynthesis is, I'll ask Mr. Hansen. If I need somebody to run gremlin tests, I'm going to a fucking lab.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Go to a gremlinologist, dude, they're out there. I'm a gremlinologist. Yeah, so, oh, there's a weird, he's walking with Phoebe Kates, like, I don't know if it's home from work or whatever. Oh, this is the second night when fucking Dick Miller is shit hammered at that bar?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Maybe. Yeah. He's fucking wasted because he's devastated and he's devastated and he found out there's foreign auto parts on his fucking snowplow
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yes But this is where they have And his Trump bear was made in China He's really upset about it Yeah totally His Trump tie was made in China too No so he is lamenting that
Starting point is 00:52:40 They like carry him out or whatever And then so he walks her home from the bar He's trying to drive home And they almost let him And then if BBKs is like Maybe not a great idea Yeah because it'd be really bad If that snowplow like crashed into someone's house
Starting point is 00:52:51 Wouldn't that be a tragedy. This is this one he's talking about the gremlins in the plane during World War two? Yes, he sets that up. He's like, oh, we saw those gremlins in there. Gremlins in the planes. Yeah, he says that. You got to say that, right? Yeah. That's where this is all from.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's where it all stems from. Yeah. Right, there's a gremlin in the White House, too. Yes, yes. Everyone's a gremlin. No, but this is where Zach Allegan, it's the first of two conversations. Why don't you like Christmas? And she's like, yeah, fuck Christmas or something like that. And he goes like, what are you
Starting point is 00:53:24 Hindu or something? Well, which is like, are you fucking kidding me? Also, the answer to fuck Christmas is okay. You know what I mean? Like it's totally what are you Hindu? What are you worshipping something different than me?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Christmas is an American holiday. What I got to say? Happy holidays at the bank for? Exactly. It's fucking crazy. But her Christmas story is laugh out loud. Amazing. It is tremendous. But that's why you don't say, what do you hate Christmas for? Because someone's like, oh, yeah, you want to fucking know?
Starting point is 00:53:58 And you hear this story and you're devastated. I was actually technically the first silent night, Deadly Night kid. So fuck you. But somehow, and this must like attest to the low level of talent that's in Kingston Falls. But even after that awkward exchange, she agrees to go out of a date with him.
Starting point is 00:54:16 That's him say, he's the only half decent dick in this town. It's him or Judge Reinhold who you just don't want to be dealing with? You know what I mean? Because he's too smarmy. Mm-hmm. Like, Zach Gallaghan's not smarmy enough, but he's definitely too smarmy that Judge Rinehold. And you can drop, you could put your drink down in front of Zach Gallaghan and reasonably put it, pick it back up. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Judge Rinehold's character, not so much. Yep. No, no, no, no. Judge Rinehold, you're taking that cocktail into the bathroom. I'm just going to go to the bathroom and fresh it up. I'll be taking my drink. Pick up your drink after Zach Gallagin? Gallagin.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Had it? There might be a doodle there of you and Mrs. Keith. Man, get it on. So it sucks either way. Why is Mrs. Stiegel an octopus? Yeah, you show her, Bill! That's Chuck Jones. That's legendary animator Chuck Jones.
Starting point is 00:55:04 She actually turns back into a person, too. So it's technically okay. So then we have the big night. There's two instances of Maguai's eating after midnight. The first one is this fucking science teacher. They give him one of the Maguire. Because Zach Allegan goes and he's like, watch this. Drop of one.
Starting point is 00:55:22 and it only makes one extra one. So the teacher has it in a cage and it's like 2.30 in the morning. He's eating this sandwich and he's like, well, I'm gonna call it a night, buddy. Leaves a mostly whole sandwich on a table and leaves a room and turns the lights off. What planet is this guy on?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Teacher has it up on the fucking peltsers though by one point because you know what he thought of. A fucking cage. Yeah. They have the fucking thing roaming around. Well, it's like you got illiterate dogs. Dude, it's just in a cardboard box. It's the only one of its existence, you skin idiots.
Starting point is 00:55:56 He's made five more. Oh, well, yes, now. Well, did anyone notice the really interesting movie language that they're telling you a lot about the science teacher? He's actually really stupid and disheveled, but he didn't cut a sandwich. So it's telling you what kind of a guy this is. The slob is going to fuck it up. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:14 They're letting you know that he's a moron. Weird thing, though, with that, and Steve's being a real jerk. This is propaganda. The thing that was unsettling, and it should be unsettling to my sandwich colleagues on both sides of the aisle, this guy doesn't take it entirely out of the Ziploc bag? Yeah, that's true. And his teeth are coming so close to this sandwich bag. So, if you ate some of the bag, are you kidding me? Well, you don't eat the bag, idiot.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You looked more scared of that than most diseases. No, I kind of agree with Andrew here. Just you take a bite of your sandwich and there's fucking plastic in it. Look out. Yeah, and then you spit it out and then you continue. This can be avoided. Take it out of the bag. How dirty are your hands? This is the new invention here, Peltzer bag, where it bites back.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Our bags bounce back. It's a Peltzer Sandwich Cutter, because it's so fucking difficult to cut a sandwich, apparently, it takes an hour and a half. It kind of is. It's the Peltzer Sandwich Repair Kit. If you accidentally cut your sandwich in half like a fucking moron, this sandwich kit will help you sew that sandwich. back together.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You would do that with you. The best thing about making a sandwich is obviously creating dishes. Right, Steve? Oh, great. Now I'm going to fucking wash all these knives. Now, the sandwich cutter, it might look, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:35 it's hard to set up the assembly line that comes with it. But it will, it will cut the sandwich. See, the most enjoyable part of a sandwich, I would say, is washing a knife afterwards. It's fun. It's what everybody wants to do.
Starting point is 00:57:50 your knife is getting greasy too right there's mustard and mayo all over it why even wake up in the morning why we're great boys that's a great question thank you I wish I didn't wake up one of these days you'll get your wish I know maybe Christmas
Starting point is 00:58:05 so the other the other side of this is Billy is watching invasion of the body snatchers the OG one the 50s one and he's the gremlins are getting hungry which guess what two fucking bad mag wise that's right
Starting point is 00:58:22 you just punch him in the face like honestly they're like clearly hungry and he looks at the clock and it's 1140 even still playing way too close like okay I got 20 minutes I could feed them and then in 20 minutes I have to start
Starting point is 00:58:37 feeding dad he's sending all sorts of reminders for himself and he's got like Nicola Tesla's first alarm clock it's old piece of shit maybe you want to check if it got unplug maybe Billy, feed me. To this, I will just say, how often are you checking your appliances for a grambling cut your cable?
Starting point is 00:58:59 But even still, like, dude, I'm not, if I'm told, like, do not feed this thing after midnight, I am not feeding it after 8 o'clock. I'm not getting close to this thing. Listen, I'm not saying that your argument is wrong. I'm saying that there's more factors going on here. There's more fuckups happening than just not checking a clock because you're right. you know what once the sun goes down that's enough magwai that's enough because this old chinese guy didn't fucking explain the time zone situation yeah that's true so as soon as it's fucking midnight anywhere you're not eating anymore i'm not feeding them at all let i fucking starve but oh were you
Starting point is 00:59:34 that kind of tomagatchi owner what's it tomahs oh that's a little virtual pets no i never did it neo pets they call nano no there's there's multiple things oh really okay tomogachi was like one and nanopet was another there was like different brands that's when they're shave their hand. One was on a keychain. They were all on key chains. Oh, they were all on. No, I was never, like a little box. Honestly, I was never exposed to any of this stuff. I had a time of got you. Kids in my class had and
Starting point is 00:59:58 never did. This was, how old were we? Probably 12-ish, maybe a little younger. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I had a slinky and straightened it. But, Billy, more movie, more movie telling you about what's going on with how food is prepared. There is
Starting point is 01:00:14 just a fucking plate of fried chicken uncovered in the fridge. I don't know what we're doing here. And it's piled high to Shangri-Lah, this chicken. That's the thing. I think, well, dude, clearly this is the Hoyt-Axton plate. That's the midnight chicken.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Dude, that's Twilight chicken right there. Now, Billy, with the fried chicken, it gets a little tricky. You got to put it in my mouth and then wait 40 seconds and then remove the bone. I cannot pass the bone, Billy. I know you think I can't fit
Starting point is 01:00:43 all those drumsticks in my mouth, but I'm telling you you can. Just push them in. Push them all in. With these digestive abilities, I'm just for whatever picturing Hoyt Axton as the monster and the host.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, that's not right. I don't know why. But it's just a plate of fried chicken piled like... Sounds good. Six inches high. It looks pretty good. It does.
Starting point is 01:01:06 What's your problem left is? It's great. Not on a sandwich? No, you've got to cover it with aluminum foil or saran wrap or something. Also, it's a weird prop placement thing where there were so many drumsticks. It's like a plate of drumsticks on a homemade kitchen
Starting point is 01:01:20 chicken meal. I know you're probably. They're not cutting the chicken. I'm sorry Steve. I'm sorry that they didn't cut the chicken for you. Steve also like cut Snickers bars in half and shit. Oh, he's eat I do I saw him eating almond Eminem's with a spoon. Oh this is a lovely steak. Could you cut in half for me please before you serve it to me? Jesus Christ. Now that's what should be by the way. You're having a steak and eating it how halving a steak. H-A-L-V-I-N-G. Steve puts a a tuxedo on for breakfast. Dude, you eat that steak like it's just a fucking
Starting point is 01:01:50 sandwich. Yeah, there you go. Jump right in. Oh, I've done it. So, but the, the gremlins eating this fucking chicken is disgusting. It is. The stickiness of it is. Oh, all the bones are like, you see the bones like flying up over the top of the box? I'm sorry, I keep on them. They're mogwis.
Starting point is 01:02:06 They're currently mogwai. My first reaction to a mogwai wouldn't be to feed it meat. No, definitely not. It'd be like fucking plants or something. Exactly. Pellets or some bamboo. Pellets. Sure, yeah. Vegetarian chili. Birdseed asshole.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I wouldn't even give a dog fried chicken. Again, the bone, it's going to choke. Hey, you know who should have provided the information about what a Magway should eat that fucking old shans? He didn't want to sell it. Yeah, he didn't want them to know about it at all. Oh, I guess that's true. So the young kid with the baseball hat should have done it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I don't think he knows. Yeah, no, that kid's dumb. This is all a problem. Yeah. I mean, we should just exterminate his things. Well, really, Hoyt Axton should be exterminated. He's the problem. At the end of this movie, he belongs behind fucking.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Oh, my God, yeah. The government needs to get involved and fucking lock everybody up. So they wind up turning. He goes to bed, he wakes up. They're in cocoons. Yeah, they're in cocoons, like gross fucking green,
Starting point is 01:02:58 gooey little eggs. And you know what? Right here, this is where you fucking pick them up, immediately take them to the backyard and buy the fucking peltser flamethrower fucking burn this shit. Which he got from doing that Nazi movie
Starting point is 01:03:12 back in the 60s. What was it? The 14-fist of McCluskey. Yes. I yeah I honestly like this and it's just in his bedroom it's like ma come look at this whoaie zoe he's like no dude this is disgusting and again the smell Chris
Starting point is 01:03:28 and you got to start stomping I immediately just break him right the fuck open and this will do the job this time we should mention also that by this point Hoyt Axton has gone to this fucking inventor convention it is now Christmas Eve by the way which is happy Christmas Eve to you all right and that's you know
Starting point is 01:03:45 Merry Christmas, especially to those out there at inventor conventions. And also, if you're not celebrating, what are you, Hindu? Well, yeah, Hoyt Axton had to go see Brandein and his other family. Oh, that's right. That's fucking it. Oh, yeah, I'm not an inventor convention on Christmas Eve, but I'll... He's an unreligable... He's a total unreliable narrator.
Starting point is 01:04:08 He's a fucking Robbie the Robots here. Yeah, exactly. He Wells' time machine. This is all fucking fake. This is what she's imagining It's like Homer is like And then I said to the president It's fucking bullshit
Starting point is 01:04:22 You're right Yeah You're 100% right I'm pretty sure I'm bad Other things going on On Christmas Eve The bank is open shore
Starting point is 01:04:32 Kids have school today Like what Is this is this Maybe I'm a Catholic school kid I don't know I think there's early dismissal Maybe you were at school Yeah really on Christmas Eve?
Starting point is 01:04:44 Day? No, Christmas Eve. If Christmas Eve fell on a school day, I think it was early dismissal. Early dismissal sounds really. Wow. That read like crazy to me because I was like, no way, never. But we see here on the other side,
Starting point is 01:04:57 we got Jewish holidays. Have you heard about those? I have heard. Do you get them at Catholic? No, not at all. Okay. I mean, so there you go. Dude, you don't fucking go around saying the J word in the Catholic
Starting point is 01:05:07 school. Is that like 30 lashes for saying the J word? I mean, I was anti-Semitically bullied one time because they found out that my grandfather was Jewish yeah that was a lot of fun. Yeah, by the teachers.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Did you go out into the courtyard and start screaming coward? That's where they held you back, the eugenics laws of the fucking school. So all these eggs start hatching. The score really picks up right here
Starting point is 01:05:36 which is great. One of the many moments that score picks up, but it just happened to know it. It's the first time, I think, right? I think so. And it's the simultaneous. Well, the hatching happens in the classroom. The teacher's like showing some hilarious instructional video
Starting point is 01:05:50 about like what hearts from different animals look like. I really like this because like... Because when you grow up, you're going to Bovine University. You know it. No, because like there's a good ominous like they start talking about blood and like how it pumps out and stuff like that. And you just know this guy's about to get fucking murdered. I mean, this is when the movie really because,
Starting point is 01:06:09 I mean, like, it's been cute so far. We're laying a lot of groundwork. We're meeting all these characters. But from here on out, it's the Gremlin show, and it's fucking awesome. Like, it's just, it's all puppets. It's all just, like, really cool. Also, there's a great, I think it's when, I think it's when the Gremlin gets wet, or when Magma gets wet, there's a great Dutch angle shift.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Like, it's just like a really, like, it's just Billy and Corey Feldman, and it's like, whoa, what the fuck? Like, it's a really, when Gizmo gets it right at the start. Yeah, when it gets wet, it's a great Dutch angle, and a weird kind of like, you know, when the smelly pops start. The Smelly Pops. This is just like Star Wars, man. That's what I call my farts.
Starting point is 01:06:47 They're the Smelly pops. Well, there goes another Smelly pop. Smelly pop. Oh, man. I mean, it is. It's just like Star Wars. When you feed a baby Yoda after midnight, it turns into a jar jar. Oh, fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Then you set it on fire immediately. Now, Billy, remember, do not mind the smelly pops when you're feeding me after midnight. Those are going to be there. It's the only sign I'm going to get. give you that I'm still alive. Now, if you hear a smelly roar, maybe you want to get a towel under them for me. Smelly roar, feed me more. Rule number 11.
Starting point is 01:07:23 So this teacher tries to, like, bribe the gremlin with a baby Ruth, like he runs and grabs at a candy bar. A weird thing of, like, he doesn't turn the lights on. Yes. Like, listen, if this thing hatches from a fucking gross egg at this point, turn the lights on, dude. Light rule is damned at this point. Exactly. You've got to find this thing.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And he searched around. It's kind of hilarious because Corey Feldman is trying to ask him about the mogwell. why like when class ends and he's like yeah yeah no it's great have a great christmas get the fuck out of here uh and yeah so like you don't see what happens to him like it's he's trying to find it's grabbed and he reaches his hand under the desk and you hear him scream and he makes a gremlin noise they do it minus 10 points by the way minus 10 points for the first uh character to die and you would be a black guy just just an FYI you can't you always lose 10 points for that is he deaf dead though i mean you see him like he got poked in the butt with the thing that he used to knock
Starting point is 01:08:09 the gremlin out has seems like he hasn't moved for many hours. I think he's dead. Apparently, that was a reshot scene because apparently it was supposed to be a bunch of syringes in his face. Oh. And they found out to be way too graphics.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Oh. The one in the butt. Well, yeah. Then he'd definitely be dead, dude. He looks like pinhead. Definitely dead. I prefer one in the butt.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Do the gremlins go to centibite hail afterwards? I don't know. I get like... Well, centibite hell is the Christian hell, my friend. Yeah, probably not. they go to a Hindu
Starting point is 01:08:44 gremlins go so then the mother's like hearing all these like gremlin-esque noises best scene of the movie by the way it's the best sequence of the movie because she's not really talking she's not like who's there there's none of that she's just walking around
Starting point is 01:08:58 how she grabs a fucking knife like Laurie Strode style immediately great jump scare here of the gremlin is this or no this is when Zach Allegan's looking around the school for the gremlin it's the first time It's before the mom.
Starting point is 01:09:11 The first time you see a full-on gremlin, the cabinet door swings open. Yeah. And it's a fucking total jump scare in this movie, too. It's awesome. I mean, this whole,
Starting point is 01:09:19 this whole sequence specifically is very horror. You know what you mean like this? But then the mom is attacked right here, so she starts getting in on killing all these things. You get a great, the gremlin puts on, do you hear what I hear?
Starting point is 01:09:30 Which is awesome. Gremlins and their knowledge of like our technology is pretty impressive, I have to say. They know, they don't have to read later in the movie. They can read. They're queing up Elvis.
Starting point is 01:09:40 her killing of these Grimlins are, it's fucking great. It's totally great. She throws one into the fucking peltzer orange juicer. Yep, that's a great one. She stabs the one right in the heart. She stabbing is the one. Holy shit. I'm watching Gremlins right now. The microwave is my favorite.
Starting point is 01:09:56 The microwave is great. And there's a great thing that the actress does where she hears more gremlins like in the other room after the microwave and she steps to like go follow them or follow the noise. And then she looks back and just looks back at the microwave to make sure like this thing's definitely dead and then continues on.
Starting point is 01:10:12 But this one, the one that's hiding in the Christmas tree makes like the whole Christmas tree like fucking attack her. Yeah. So scary, man. I mean, like, this is like what Christmas is all about. It's like getting really stressed over the holidays. I remember one time wanted to kill people in your own home.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Exactly. Bitten by a tree. My mother was doing a bunch of Christmas stuff. She just put the Christmas tree up. And like my cat jumped into the tree and knocked it over and she just screamed out, Is this the answer to no one? Because that's what Christmas fucking does, man.
Starting point is 01:10:46 It drives you fucking nuts. It really does. You sometimes will spend years praying for gremlins to destroy your town. I know, like, people say they do, but has anyone ever liked Christmas? Oh, yeah. I still like Christmas now. I dislike it. But, see, we have a thing now, like, everyone in the family has grown, and we're out of state where it's like, we're not going Christmas crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:10 It's like if I see you, if we're in town, that's cool. We get gifts from the kids, for the kids and mail them, like the nieces and nephews and whatnot. And it's like you get stuff for the parents. Maybe we do a secret Santa with the siblings, but not really. And that's just kind of it. It's just it. It's finally, finally, it. That sounds too much.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I would like nothing and I would like to give nothing. Well, I'll tell you, the greatest way to spend Christmas, I think, and Chelsea and I are doing this for the second year in a row. Lady and cheaper food. Just going to a restaurant, just the two of us, like Christmas Day night. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's right where you want to be. I've done that a couple times on Christmas Eve. It's a nice situation.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Christmas Eve, though. Yeah, Christmas Day, I got family local. It's just never going to stop, period. See, I was Christmas Eve was when I saw the family. Christmas Day was just like me and my mom. What do you do? You know what I mean? You go over to your family and you're like,
Starting point is 01:12:07 oh, I mean, I'm going to do this thing. You don't like it. And then you sit around and look at each other, you play the goddamn music and then you go home. I mean, I guess you eat. You eat at some point. But like, Eric? Entertainment is like.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Sometimes people talk to each other. I don't like that. Yeah, this is just you against socializing. In general. It's got nothing to do with the holidays. You every day. Since I moved to the country, there will be days where I don't talk to anyone besides my wife. But I get my talking in here.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, that's it. But that's all I need. You're talking to hundreds of people right now. You're the most social person out there. I think it's down to 50. Oh, no. So Zach Allegan's like snooping around the town trying to find these gremlins and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:12:53 So she's getting attacked. Oh, yes. A very visceral scene that the fucking thing is in the tree. It's going to get her. It's clawing her face because it's not like it's it's both. And the dude you hear and I hear is funny. The gremlin like exploding is kind of funny. This is kind of scary.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Zach Gallaghan comes, there's swords by the door, don't ask. Oh, no. The answer is two words. Hoydakston. This guy, he's buying these fucking swords, he thinks it looks cool. They constantly fall off the wall, by the way, whenever anyone enters the house. It's another gag to show that
Starting point is 01:13:26 this family's full of losers. And Peltzer skewer, you can put five whole sides of beef on this sucker. Yeah, the Peltzer family, we invented hentai, and we got swords on the wall. What else do you need to know? he comes and grabs the sword
Starting point is 01:13:41 decapitates this gremlin in one fell swoop and the thing goes into the fireplace screaming as it burns a plus yeah you see that skull fucking cooking up in the fireplace that might be my favorite gremlin death actually that the cut the decapitation of all time of all time
Starting point is 01:13:57 how is it screaming while it's burning if it's decapitated because it's it's a grimlin's movie yeah we're having fun it is cool we get eventually we have to do grimlins too we do so we could talk about that the gremlin that gets thrown into the cement by Dick Miller. Oh, right. Mafia Gremlin.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It becomes a gargoy. Big boy not the best. Big boy not to beath. But then, so then Spike shows his face here and just totally jumps out a window. Like through the glass and everything. And so this brings Zach Gallaghan. Zach Gallaghan takes his mom next door
Starting point is 01:14:29 to the doctor who lives there. And she's, you know, fucking bleeding. He's like, here you deal with this, veterinarian. And then so he follows the trail of Graham. Or Spike's trail to this YMCA. There's a bit of a scuffle. Another jump scare here from Spike. And he throws him in the pool like Chud too.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yes. And this is, it's a great, like, the movie is changing. The light starts, like, going green in the pool. It's like it follows. The fucking water's going crazy too. I don't know if it's the score or if it's just the orgasmic sounds of a gremlin. Yeah. But there's this no, like, ah, ah.
Starting point is 01:15:06 those noises in that pool I thought we were watching cocoon Oh God A cat couldn't scratch it Yeah this gremlin pool Is cleaner than that cocoon pool Definitely Oh they're all popping off of me
Starting point is 01:15:21 Ah It's got to feel a little good To expunge some of that shit Oh yeah Of what What are you The Gremlin's popping out Okay not Wilford Brimley
Starting point is 01:15:32 Coming in a pool No not Wilford Brimley Yeah, you're going to want to clean out the filter there, if you know what I mean. God damn, who my come shoots off my back. When those old guys in cocoons start, like, getting horny, the Gremlin's theme would be perfect. Yeah, somebody do that. Somebody make that. That's what the aliens don't tell them in that movie.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Okay, you can live forever and you'll be younger, but you can't be out in sunlight. You can't get wet and never, ever eat after midnight. Well, I'm done, God damn it. They turned into fucking gremlins. It's Wilfer Brimley as a gremlin. Don Amici as a gremlin. Wilfer Brimley ate after midnight. Don Amici had Conalingas after midnight.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Somehow it counts. Oh, it counts. Oh, shit. See our previous episode on Cacoon, right? What was that? A thousand years ago. It's gremlin town. This is the Dick Mood.
Starting point is 01:16:35 scene where it's like we said previously it's a Mike Lee movie it's just him it's Christmas Eve it's just him and his wife's like goddamn TV foreign parts and he's just like drinking and she's like I'm having fun what is this thing that they're watching it's like a Santa
Starting point is 01:16:51 Claus falling off the roof it's like a sitcom yeah I was trying to figure out what this was because it looked kind of entertainment it looked great it actually looked good like it's Santa Claus with like a bunch of was the character having like presents in his pants because like his pants keep falling down. That must have been it. I just thought
Starting point is 01:17:07 he was an oaf. Yeah, I don't know, but it looked pretty entertaining. The TV goes out. Right. Oh, God damn. We should have a foreign TV. We should have got a zenith, which is pretty late. Oh, God damn it. I have to talk to her now. I'll take my life into
Starting point is 01:17:23 my hands by going on the roof instead. But then he sees some gremlins. He freaks out and the gremlins drive his truck into his fuck, into his house. Is this the Kentucky Harvest? Yes, no, not a truck, it's a tractor rather, or a plow? Or what is it? I guess it's a tractor.
Starting point is 01:17:41 He keeps saying he's got this snow plow. And to me, a snowplow is a truck with a plow on. Or like one of these big city, the city plows that we have where it's like a garbage truck and you have a plow on it. This is, yeah, it's like a little construction site thing. It was very weird. Which I guess could plow. It theoretically could. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Oh, Dick Miller was in Diehard 3 and he got all the gold with his little plow. That's right. They both get steamrolled. You don't see what happens to them. But they're dead, right? I mean, like, they're not because they're in the next movie. But I feel like in the, in this movie, they should be dead. I think in the next movie, he's just like, oh, I got a conk on the head from those bastards.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, it's like, no, he's dead. Well, yeah, because when the drunk police in the next scene, like, get the call that the Gremlin has driven the snowplow through the house, he's acting as if, like, he's getting news that they've been murdered. He's a freak accident or whatever it is. Well, this great Jonathan Banks is in this scene. Oh, yeah. Jonathan Banks is one of the drunk. Cops, fucking hilarious. Billy is like, oh my God, what half I rod?
Starting point is 01:18:39 I better tell the local police who are smashed because it's Christmas Eve. Oh, yeah. And yeah, this is great Jonathan Banks' drunk acting. Oh, man. Yeah, they're acting. And they're just like, oh, yeah, Griblins. And they get the call.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And it's like, oh, my God, we have to get over there. And this is like a nice sequence with these two cops. Because, like, Jonathan Banks is good at doing comedy. And he's very funny in this movie. Like, they see, this is when the. like driving down the street and they're like still drunk and this is when like the old lady flies
Starting point is 01:19:11 out the window and they see it and they're getting freaked out and then the gremlin like pulls up to like the side of the car or whatever and like I almost called him Mike the cleaner Jonathan Banks like he's doing good job at like being comedically scared of a gremlin well he goes oh my God it's Christmas
Starting point is 01:19:27 how could this happen which is just a great line we do need to talk about Mrs. Deagle's demise oh yeah it's awesome which is the best death in the movie like person death, which is just her being a rotten shit in her house. And like, she's like, oh, great, it's Christmas carolers. I can't believe it. My favorite thing is all of her cats are named after different kinds of currencies.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yes, which is fantastic. Cash money. Dinar. Dinar was, like, the 15th cat. The Dinar is the fake cat that she has in her house died six years ago. Kopeck? There's a weird. Oh, Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:20:06 There's a creepy thing, though, because she opens the door, and it's the Gremlin's, like, caroling. And then they just start going, Deagle, Deagle, which is fucking stupendous. Well, because Spike sees her house, and he reads the side. He's like, oh, Deagle. And I'm like, wait, what? You can read the... Yeah, they're totally intelligent, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And also, and this is a note for the whole rest of the movie. sure what doll shop did they ransack for all these adorable gremlin clothes see this is the stuff like the sequel gets right is like they would have shown like a tailor grimlin or something that's like fucking doing it all
Starting point is 01:20:47 the hats for them I wish people could see what Chris was mining of the measuring tape it's pretty funny so they fuck with her chair she's got an assistance thing that'll take her up and down the stairs sure and it
Starting point is 01:21:03 fucking shoots... Just launches her. The saddest, most amazing, like, actual cool character arc is like, she's a piece of shit, like, doesn't care about anybody else. But as she's about to die, she's like, I'm not ready yet.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I'm not ready. Yeah, you are too bad. You fucking get ready, do you go? Can't take it with you. You'll be in hell by Christmas morning. I'm not ready yet. Oh, no, I'm not ready yet. This would be a nice end to him.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Oh, dude. A gremlin's death? I haven't opened my. Jars a piss my Christmas morning piss
Starting point is 01:21:37 they're just in there hiding in his hamburgers there was a scene that was cut or not
Starting point is 01:21:44 filmed where they were going to go to go to McDonald's and eat people instead of
Starting point is 01:21:48 hamburger I would love to that see I don't like hearing stuff like
Starting point is 01:21:52 this because it's too much no it's just enough go for
Starting point is 01:21:57 yeah if this was like a hard R yeah stupend then it
Starting point is 01:22:02 would be like the tone would be everywhere. Yeah, I kind of, I like exactly the right where this is because like,
Starting point is 01:22:08 but the deagle death is pretty brutal. It's funny and threatening. Yes, yes. It's not just like complete goal. But that's the thing is I don't think they would have been showing them
Starting point is 01:22:16 literally eating cheeks. Yeah, they would just be on them. The patty. Yeah. You know, but it's like a thing where it's like, oh,
Starting point is 01:22:23 what did they get, where'd they get this sandwich meat from or something? And then there's just like someone's Burger King uniform is on the floor. And the sand, like what the Santa Claus is going through. Like they would just be on them.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Like, it wouldn't be gross. Yeah, now we got, we're going to the town. There's like, oh, my God, that's Tom, whatever. He plays Santa Claus every year. There's a gremlins on his throat and shit. There's the mail, the mailbox scene, which is pretty great. Oh, the priest is trying to mail a letter, and then, like, it gets shot back out. And then there's other guy, I think it's the Christmas tree salesman comes up.
Starting point is 01:22:51 And it's just like, the priest is like, oh, what are you doing there, Bill? You're trying to mail something? Yeah. Why don't you? Why don't you give it a shot? But then this guy, like, sticks us. He's like, yes, I'm marrying a, a mess. Mailing a package to my granddaughter, whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:23:06 And, like, the guy's arm gets chewed off. Yeah, it's pretty great. And, I mean, like, this is, like, just a mealy of all sorts of stuff. When we end up in the bar, basically. Oh, yeah. The gremlins have taken over this bar. Which, like, if she's still bartending. And she's serving the gremlin.
Starting point is 01:23:20 So not only are you getting paid. You are fucking putting up with a gremlin invasion and serving them with a smile. I don't think so. Well, it's the only thing that keeps them at bay, dude. The gremlins want beer. They want cigarettes. Also, by the way, this is a fucking bar I want to be at. Gremlin bar.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Podcasters are Gremlins of the 21st century. What do you call a group of podcast? A gremlin. Gremlins. It's also, you know exactly what kind of bar this is because there's popcorn there. You've been there.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Popcorn in those tiny wooden bowls. There's a shitty TV up in the corner that's got a hockey game on with bad reception. I do kind of want to be here just not while the gremlins are in town. Tiny nerd point here. The song playing, not on the soundtrack. It is a rare
Starting point is 01:24:04 Peter Gabriel one-off that he wrote specifically for this song with Nile Rogers, and it kind of sounds like a Peter Gabriel talking head song. It's kind of great. It's a great song. I don't know what it is. You can listen to it on YouTube. It's called Out Out. Yes. It's great. It's a great song. It's an awesome.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And we're just kind of, we're seeing all the gremlins. The gremlins are just drunk. We've got my favorite gremlin here, which is Jack Daniel's Gremlin. He's got the hat. Yeah. Oh, dude. That guy's awesome. This is when it turns into, like, it's such a bizarre, like, there's a bunch of little bizarre gremlin shots
Starting point is 01:24:36 here and there, but this is like a slightly extended bizarre gremlin sequence where this guy is just like doing his thing, there's jazz music playing, he's drinking jack, he's got a hat on and sunglasses, and then the other gremlin slowly comes up and is doing this puppet show.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Yes. It's so absurd and funny, and the movie like stops dead to allow it to happen. That's Clint Eastwood Gremlin. And then there's FlashDance Gremlin. Flash dance gremlin's great To super madness Which also rocks
Starting point is 01:25:05 Yeah that's a great tune Flasher Is that the same Yeah he flashes Phoebe Kates Yeah She kicks in the balls Right Or in the
Starting point is 01:25:14 There's also Burglar Grimlin Who has actual gun on Dude that guy is scary Man Where did this guy get the firearm It's just the I got to put on a ski mask
Starting point is 01:25:24 To hide my Grimlin face Yeah dude like I don't want to Even as a gremlin This is going too far I must wear a mask and become a symbol. Sure, they'll think it's another
Starting point is 01:25:35 Gremlin. They just won't know it's me. We don't know who did it. Who could let this happen? And then Joe Pesci Gremlin who's playing cards and then shoots the guy next to him. Oh, yes. That's pretty great. Is there a Gremlin at the start of this that's doing a Ray Charles bit?
Starting point is 01:25:53 I think you're mixing that up with part two, possibly. Because there's... I counted two sunglasses wearing gremlins. You know, and it's right. You know, and you feel it, baby. The Gremlin's just drinking an ice cold Pepsi. Oh, no, that was just Jamie Fox. Yeah, I mean, this scene's awesome.
Starting point is 01:26:13 There's just so much, like, gremlin stuff. And this is when the movie sort of changes into, like, total gremlin madness of, like, there's just a gremlin in every shot, and it's just a gag per shot. Like, this is a funny thing to do with this gremlin. Speaking of shots, there's a great one. It's after the YMCA pool incident.
Starting point is 01:26:31 there's an awesome shot. I don't know if it's like stop motion or if it's actual animation or what, but it's like the shot of the street and it's like one gremlin walking and then all of them come up like behind him. It's fucking perfectly constructed. It kind of looks like the raisins from the,
Starting point is 01:26:47 I heard it through the grapevine video, but it's fantastic. Yeah, it does kind of look like that stop motion actually. And to get out of this situation, Phoebe Kates starts flashing her camera at them. She also realizes, because that one gremlin, I don't think he knows what he's doing here, has like five cigarettes in his mouth.
Starting point is 01:27:05 And she, being, I guess, the generous pro bono barmaid that she is trying to like light the... She lights a match and she's trying to light his cigarettes and he gets so freaked out, he falls off the stool and she's like, say. And yeah, she grabs the camera right here. That's it. I'm giving you a 5% tip. I just like putting them in my mouth. I don't smoke them.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I don't smoke them. You said no problem. instead of, you're welcome. That drives me crazy. Yeah, she used a bunch of flashes. I was dining with my companion and he finished his meal before me and you took his plate away while I was still eating.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Boy, that drives me crazy. Water glass was half empty for an awful while. People complain about that? The water not being filtered? I love water, but like... There are people out there that will find fucking anything to fuck with service people. And just to justify that too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Well, I don't know. She was a little rude. She's a little rude. And these fries didn't literally burn the roof of my mouth off. Grimlins are better than people. Absolutely. Oh, sure. So Billy kind of saves her, but his car won't start.
Starting point is 01:28:26 God, damn. He sucks. They run into the bank. Well, it's not his fault. It's that damn foreign car. It's these damn foreign gremlins. This is the greatest scene, which is where she tells her, why don't you like Christmas? Right. And it's just like her dad fucking went missing on Christmas Eve. They called the cops. Five days went by. She decides she's going to light a fire in the fireplace. And I sort of misremembered this because she's like, I lit this fire. And then I was going to light a fire.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And that's when we noticed the smell. And all the corpse juice fell down. Well, it's like the dude's rotting in there. But I remembered it as they lit the fire. And then the dude was cooking. And they were like, oh, what's that smell? Oh, that's dead. She does say, like, he was trying to climb down the fucking chimney,
Starting point is 01:29:20 dressed his Santa to surprise everyone and then broke his neck. Yeah. Fucking Darwin Awards right here. It's fucking insane. Well, how crazy do you? you have to be, and this is Christmas people, my friends. Yeah, oh, totally. People go fucking ape shit for Christmas. This is the
Starting point is 01:29:35 thesis of the movie. It's like Christmas is too much. It's killing people literally. Yeah. Now we have people getting stomped to death at Black Friday so that's, you know, what that is. She delivers this perfectly, by the way. It's so dark. It says like that's how she found out there was no Santa Claus because her dad
Starting point is 01:29:51 fucking died and it's crazy and apparently they wanted this removed from the movie and Joe Dante fought for it. Yeah, which makes sense. Good job. Joe Dante. also there's no end to the scene either like Billy is like hey she stops yeah there's no reaction from him hey you know every now and again
Starting point is 01:30:09 like no nothing because he cannot be a supportive boyfriend he's not boyfriend he's not boyfriend material I'll say even in that second movie it's like what are you doing hang around with this puts Eric you're sounding very jealous right now well of course wouldn't you want to date Zach Allegan look I'm keeping the story
Starting point is 01:30:26 you can take the syringe face or I'll take the French face, and you could take the story. Steve, didn't you mention you saw him in Manhattan once? No, my brother used to run into Peter Gallagher. Different guy. I may have mentioned this on the air before, but Zach Gallagin used to come into the burns all the time and try to get free tickets. He'd be like, he'd come in and be like, oh, one for whatever. And they'd be like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Oh, I just drop my Gremlins card on the day. Oh, he would drop his fucking sag card, dude. He'd be like, I'm a member of SAG. And we'd be like, cool, $9, Zach Gallaghan. I'm in the movie. You know, that's a fucking lie. I was in two episodes of bones. You know, I'm doing a lot of softcore pornography these days.
Starting point is 01:31:15 He was fucking, no, in the late 90s, it was a dark time for Zach Gallaghan. Retrieu diaries? Yes, it was a lot of Zalman King productions. Oh, is that right? So he was sexy enough, huh? I mean, like, you know, he's all right looking. He's a good-looking dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:31 He looks like a Peter Park. If there was a Spider-Man movie in the 80s, he would have been a great Peter Parker. Yes, that's actually true. I'm looking at his more recent film, I'm going to talk in a lot of bad horror movies. Oh, sure. Yeah, that's how you trade it on your name.
Starting point is 01:31:44 You do the cons, and then you do the bad movies, and it's all just one cycle. You know what he's in that's really weird and it's probably a stay-tuned. Wax work. Yep. Wax work is fucking nuts. He's in the second one, too,
Starting point is 01:31:55 which I believe has, like, time travel or something in it. Yeah. Yeah. So like all the gremlins decide to go to a movie theater. This is a Warner Brothers movie. It's totally weird. There must have been some deal between Warner's and Disney. They're watching Snow White. You know what this is? What's that?
Starting point is 01:32:10 I think this laid the groundwork for what settled the rights issues for Roger Rabbit. Oh, I see. It was like the beginning of the talk of the talks. Sure. Yeah. Like let's see if it can work this way. And I was actually astounded dude. It's 1980.
Starting point is 01:32:26 when we're making this movie and putting it out and everything like that. This movie theater, this movie theater is playing Snow White and the Seven Doors. Back when Disney let their animated films out of the vault for movie theater. It was pretty pre-DISD Plus, man.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Right? Is everything on, is that movie on? Oh, yeah. No, but like you can't, no matter what kind of a theater you are, book those vaulted animated classics. They do not allow. The fucking vault.
Starting point is 01:32:52 There's no vault. When I was a kid, I was like, oh my God, there's a child. bank door and everything. I always thought that too. It's a folder. There's a bullshit IMDB trivia thing where it's like, you know, I don't think,
Starting point is 01:33:04 and like, it's IMDB trivia is trashed these days. You know, one person went into the vault once looking for one of those movies and they were trying to break in and then the vault door closed behind them. They died. Bob, it's not a vault. It's a quadrillion tetra byte fucking hard drive, okay? You'll take a tetabyte out of you too, buddy.
Starting point is 01:33:21 They, they wind up, It's like, oh, Walt Disney, if he were alive, he died before this movie came out. He would have been 81 when it came out. But I don't think he would have liked this snow white being shown in this movie. I'm like, what the fuck trivia is this? Get the fucking personal opinions out of there. It's not like Jews are in the audience.
Starting point is 01:33:44 So they're all fucking having a great time. The Gremlins get the projector to work. Good for them. And the sound? Listen, here, as of former projections, I was astounded that the Gremlin's one, got it laced at all two the sound was impeccable three started that reel up totally in frame
Starting point is 01:34:01 everything was perfectly masked a gremlin could do that job and the gremlins are going abe shit it's adorable it's a lot of fun the song hi-ho hi-ho Billy gets the idea if he blows up to the movie theater no more gremlin trying to do it in glorious bastards yes exactly putting out fire with gas
Starting point is 01:34:20 and then they fucking Billy poses as an Italian an usher. Phoebe Kates and the dog of a machine gun Gremlin Hitler.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Oh yeah. Oh, Gremlin Hitler. He's one of my more favorite ones. Phoebe Kates' face just comes up on the screen. Zach Allegan has really great line delivery here when he's spies what the gremlins are doing
Starting point is 01:34:47 and he's like, they're watching Snow White and they're loving it. I've always laughed heartily at that delivery. They locked the gremlins in. Spike, by the way. Good guy, Spike is like to get snacks. Oh, for my buddies, too. He sees a candy store across the way. He's going to go check it out. And again, this is that gremlin reading the sign that says candy. Oh, candy. Yum. Yum. Yum. Yum. They wind up. So this is a weird thing. This is a weird thing. Zach Allegan says to Phoebe Kates, something. Something. to the effect of like where's the gas line in this movie in this building or something and she goes oh in the back of the theater I was like
Starting point is 01:35:32 wait what I think there's one line I used to go back there and huff it she just knows where all the gas lines is she's a she's a Ignore all the empty ready whip cans Yeah that was the move Was it not Chris Kevin That was the move
Starting point is 01:35:47 Concession stand whip it I never did whip it Oh you're not missed time It's fine stinks it's cool when you're like 17. Don't do it. Don't do it. It'd be cool if you did. Yeah. No, my kids, just smoke weed.
Starting point is 01:36:02 There's a lot of kids listening, and I'm their role model. These kids are fucking finished. Do not do whip it. No, just eat the fucking whipped cream out of the canister. Sure. That's fine. Just eat. Just get nice and big. Eat your big.
Starting point is 01:36:17 While you're sleeping, eat. Papa Eric says, we've got to fatten you children up. Got my 2 a.m. whipped cream feeding, boy. I forgot to tell you, Billy. Another thing is after you feed me after midnight, 2 a.m. dessert. That is mandatory. And yes, pancakes count.
Starting point is 01:36:36 No ice cream. That wakes me up, which I hate being woken up while I eat. Now, you got to slas the pie and put one in at a time. Cookies, you got to blend those first. Well, now, pizzas are the tricky one because you call it a pizza pie, and I call a pie a dessert, so it works. You can give me pizza. So, boom, these gremlins get blown sky high.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Poor Spike has to watch all his friends die. Great explosion. Great, totally great explosion, man. This movie theater goes up. There's the gremlins. And also another great piece of animation here is they light the fuse. The gremlins figure it out.
Starting point is 01:37:16 They're chasing Billy and Phoebe Cates. And you see the back of the screen and you see all these gremlin shadows. It's awesome. It's just animation, but it looks really cool. Because, yeah, they're behind the movie screen while the reel is still playing and they rig the thing.
Starting point is 01:37:29 And then the real ends, this amateur hour gremlin projection is shit and missed the real change. What an asshole. And then they see... Focus! The light just goes on and they, I guess, see them,
Starting point is 01:37:42 which wouldn't happen, but whatever. But then, yeah, the cool animation of it. It's just like... This movie, like, wears that shit so well that, like, even 35 years later, it's like, nope, this all still works because you fucking owned it then. We're not talking about it because every shot is like puppet mastery. Like, you just see these things.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Yeah. You believe them in every single shot. Yeah. You just do it. Oh, that's cool. And even when it's like animated and shit, because they're just like owning it and they're up front, they're not trying to hide it. You're like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:38:12 That's the world of this movie contains stuff like that. It's fine. Well, that's what I love about that because you do make an agreement with the audience there. And these days they're like, no, no, no, it's real. Yes. The computer shit? Yeah, that's real. No, no, no, it's, it's real stuff. Yeah, the Four Realms or whatever, fucking horse shit.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Oh, the Nutcracker, dude. Yeah. Four realming it. Yeah, so they're all dead, but then they spy Spike. And this for like the eighth time in the movie, Zach Allegan's like, oh, hey, Kate, check it out. That's Spike. He's their leader. Anybody see that there wasn't supposed to be a spike in a Gizmo was only supposed to be Gizmo?
Starting point is 01:38:47 Like, Gizmo was supposed to turn into Spike. There was no, like, there's no supposed to be like a good mob. Gremlin, they were all bad. See, that would have been heartbreaking. I've been calling him Stripe. Oh, you're right, it's straight. Okay, I thought it was a Crandall situation. No, no, I've been calling him Crandall.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I might be wrong. No, it's Stripe. I have striped in my nose. Sorry, sorry. Spike would have been cooler, but whatever. But, yeah, Stripe is, was supposed to turn, like, the Grimma was supposed to turn to Stripe, essentially. No, I'm glad this was course corrected. So they get, it's the final actor,
Starting point is 01:39:22 or in this mall. That's just a department store. It's not a mall. This town doesn't have a mall. Billy is like, hey, Phoebe Kates, find a way to turn the lights on. The father and the dog just so happy to be driving back
Starting point is 01:39:35 from this adventurous convention. You took this dog to the convention, by the way? Yeah, I guess so. Because Brandein thinks this is her dog too. You better bring the dog, you piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Dude, but in the... Also, where's my medicine? You were supposed to go to the truck store. Are you bringing the car? And the cigarettes from Canada, honey? You're not getting those cigarettes because you didn't feed me right last night. I woke up knowing immediately I missed a 2 a.m. dessert.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I think I only had one ravioli. I need at least 20. Yeah, I had those cartons of marb bread right under the tree for you, Brandein. But I'm sorry, but there was no taste on my tongue when I woke up. So I snuck out with the dog and the cigarettes. Guess what I got you for Christmas, Brande. got you to Jack Daniels and it comes with the two glasses with it.
Starting point is 01:40:26 It's a big... You didn't give me what I wanted all, which was five pounds of veal. Yep. Now I've got to go. Goodbye other family. It's an inventors convention on Christmas Day.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Flipping around, dude. Exactly. Oh, man, this guy... This guy's inventing family. I got robots to talk to. That's his only invention that work, dude. This family invention he's got going on. That sperm is fucking working.
Starting point is 01:40:51 So as the dog sees what's going on. I was like, well, I got to get to this department store. Sure. And this is like a great like cat and mouse thing. There's a shot of the, of Stripe being on all the TVs, which is fun. That one, classic 80s move. He's face pops up on one and Zach Gallaghan hits it with a baseball bat, which is awesome. This is also the, it will never not be funny.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Zach Gallagin falling into a wall of tennis ball containers. Well, Stripe rigs up the fucking pitching machine To hit him in the back Yeah, it's awesome Knocks him out And then gets a fucking chainsaw Which is amazing I want to know what this baseball bat
Starting point is 01:41:31 Is made of by the way Because the chainsaw hits this baseball bat And sparks may as well be coming off of it I thought it was aluminum But it's got a wooden handle, right? It's wooden. It's a wooden baseball bat But I think the thing is
Starting point is 01:41:43 Gremlins aren't that strong physically You need to be able to push that into it. I guess that's true, yeah So it's a shitty chainsaw is what Yeah, yeah, also true. It's as if the chainsaw is leaning on the back. Exactly. The peltzer chainsaw.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It doesn't work. Can cut a sandwich. Can't cut much else. This is when Gizmo gets inside of a little, like, toy racing car and scares the bejesus out of this fucking dog, man. That's what I was talking about, dude, with the un-agreed-to-stunt by poor mushroom. Because they fucking are driving this Gizmo puppet in this... motorized car, this is a radio car, and the car hits the dog in the leg, and the dog's like, what the fuck? No, no, Joe didn't tell me about that shot, actually, and it really fucked me up, but I used that.
Starting point is 01:42:30 I used that in my performance. As a dog actor. As a dog actor. Behind, into the dog actor studio. Now, Mushroom, in the famous scene, was, were you aware that was going to happen to you, Mushroom? Woof, woof. Genius. And, yeah, yeah, I should support.
Starting point is 01:42:50 tag doctra. Now I'm just picturing Hoyt accident eating all of his kibble on. It's a good cereal you got here, Joe. Tastes like dried fish, this cereal. There's a meat in here, actually. Hey, hey. Hey, meat cereal.
Starting point is 01:43:09 All right. Holy fuck. Why haven't they invented that yet? I would eat meat. I mean, that is just dog food, but I would eat meat cereal. Well, that's the next Peltzer invention right there. Actually, the closest, I think,
Starting point is 01:43:18 human society has come to meat cereal is canned corned beef hash. That's meat cereal. I guess so. It's more of a meat oatmeal maybe. I don't know. Snapcrackling pop fucking making some steaks for you. Spellie pops.
Starting point is 01:43:34 You know, also like hashtag meat cereal on Twitter. Let's get a trending this holiday season. Sure. Just some shredded chicken and your cornflakes. Well, I mean, the thing about meat cereal is, you ever had that dog food that you'd have to make gravy with, which is just like pouring water on it, and it smelled like ass.
Starting point is 01:43:53 That's kind of what I imagine meat cereal would be. That's no good. We pour water on our dog's dry cereal. That's what I mean. It's on the dry food. That kind of smells a little shit. That's all right. You get used to it, though? Would you eat it, though? No. What about some milk or something? Oh, maybe. Then
Starting point is 01:44:08 we'll see. So Gizmo steps in. He like jumps up on a shade. He makes like the blinds. Something cracks and falls from the this is just as Spike Stripe gets in the water he's about to make a bunch right his back's bubbling up pretty
Starting point is 01:44:24 bad he's starting to look like E Honda actually now that I think about it yeah Gizmo like opens the shade and the sunlight gets him and apparently this kind of sucks for Zach Gallaghan there was a shot where Zach Gallaget opens the second shade and he really kills Stripe but Steven Spielberg's like
Starting point is 01:44:40 nah it's Gizmo's movie yeah dude fucking Maguire on Gremlin dude that's how this has to end it's like Batman and the Joker Commissioner Gordon You got to stay out of it, buddy You're not taking down the Joker Well, it's really like
Starting point is 01:44:53 This is Gizmo killing his son Yeah, that's true Yeah, oh fuck dude, yeah It's like it's a Greek tragedy shit See, this is the Gremlins is a thinking man's film Indeed, it's true So this thing starts melting amazingly It's a great death
Starting point is 01:45:10 Oh my God It just keeps You know what it starts looking like The Skeleton Turtles from Mario? Yes, yes. Pretty great. And the skeleton head is there. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:45:20 It's so great. It just fucking drops dead in this fountain. Pretty awesome. The dad comes in fucking 10 hours too late. Huh. He's like, wow. Somebody had fun. And...
Starting point is 01:45:33 Smells like my smelly pops in here. They take... They take Gizmo Hall. I haven't even been feeding here. Hold on a second. Lynn, are you stepping out on me? Is there another man eating in my bed? they take
Starting point is 01:45:49 his more home he's got like a little fun little water bottle on his head because he's sick or something and fucking Mr. Wing shows up
Starting point is 01:45:57 but he's like you fucking white idiots he's and he's fucking nailing all of American society dude he's like
Starting point is 01:46:04 you destroyed this town like you've destroyed the environment all of nature's gifts all of nature's gifts that's what it is yeah fucking great
Starting point is 01:46:13 and Hoyt Axton is just like I would like I would like to apologize I sincerely apologize I very much apologize
Starting point is 01:46:21 it's like wait a second you taught this thing to watch TV you fucking idiot you fucking ruined it yeah now it's gonna be
Starting point is 01:46:29 fucking honking off about fucking I love Lucy all day thanks a lot rerun free run so the dude is just like
Starting point is 01:46:39 here's the deal man Zach Galligan you are not ready for this shit maybe someday you'll be a grown ass man
Starting point is 01:46:46 And at that point, the Maguire will always be waiting for you. And in the most heartbreaking moment of the film, the dude turns around and he's like, oh, Zach Allegan, he's got something to say to you. And he's just like, bye, bye, Billy. Oh, my God. Oh, not a dry eye in the house. But you know what, dude, Billy didn't deserve it. Nobody deserved these fucking things.
Starting point is 01:47:07 And again, like, this family needs to move and they need to move fast. Because it's going to be that like, well, what the hell happened to you? here last night. My mother is dead. My fucking father's dead. What happened? Well, actually, you know, the peltsers, they brought this animal home from Chinatown and it seems to have destroyed our entire city. Now, here's the thing. I don't know how they reconcile this at the start of the second movie or whatever. I have not seen it a very long time. But the dude on the news says that everything is being explained away because there was mass hysteria that hit the town. No mention of grandmins at all. There's this weird moment where, because there's
Starting point is 01:47:46 There's, uh, the first shot actually after, uh, the beginning is a rock and Ricky Rialto Indiana, Indiana Jones thing. Dude, I love that dude getting attacked by Gremlins on the air at one point. They say at the end that like, he's on the radio and he's like, they're going to turn the hoses on them. And I was like, on what? On the Gremlins. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's everywhere now. Yeah, they're everywhere. And like they never really closed that loophole. Oh, so it's like the gremlin's like one of them got out and it's like attacking the countryside. It's when
Starting point is 01:48:17 they're trying to hunt stripe. Yes. They're on the radio you can hear him saying they're getting ready to turn the hoses on them. So I'm like there must be 500 of these fucking things. He gets killed right? Because there's like a whole thing like don't call him with all this war of the world
Starting point is 01:48:34 shit. It's not in the house. No that's what I think they sort of dial that or walk it back because he that sound effect is like he's being murdered by those things. And then at the ended the movie. You hear him back on the radio again. He's Don Steele. He's been a ton of shit. I loved him in, um, uh, Death Race 2000, the Corman movie. He's like the on, uh, location announcer. Oh, really? He's interviewing Stallone and Frankenstein. He's actually all over, um, the once
Starting point is 01:49:00 upon a time in Hollywood soundtrack. That's, that's what they're listening to. He's like, I mean, he's dead, but like it's all like old. Yeah. A, an L.A. radio DJ. Oh, that's very cool. Ah. The real Don Steele. So, yeah, the Mr. Wynn is like, you know what? Fuck you. Takes his to. No, really. He's walking down, he's walking down the middle of the road, which I love.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I like this mat painting. It's awesome. It's a great shot. And this is a weird thing. You don't see this too often with credits. It's the same shot. And the credits don't start up from the bottom. They just pop up like, boop, right?
Starting point is 01:49:36 Like the middle of the frame they start rolling. And he's like, well, yeah, well, we sure did murder half hour. town, didn't we, everybody? And he's like, yeah, and you know, the next time you turn a light switch and it doesn't come on before you waste money calling an electrician, why don't you check around your house for Gremlins? Or I could
Starting point is 01:49:53 have just listened to the rules. But fuck it. Did you not get fed last night? Maybe your family were battling Gremlin. And then that fucking excellent theme song kicks in once again and you get a little fade out on that map painting. It's great. It's great.
Starting point is 01:50:11 It's amazing. I will say the Grumlins 2 Gizmo is much cuter. Yes, it is. They did some work on it. They figured it out. That is the closer to the baby Yoda. He started doing like some sit-ups and shit. It's a lot of Botox too.
Starting point is 01:50:24 A lot of surgery up to wazoo. And that was six years later. It was 1990 Gremlin's two comes out. That's kind of something. Great movie. That's a nice, you know, take over half a decade, work on the puppetry. Just two movies. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:50:40 it's kind of shocking they're gonna remake it they've been trying to for fucking years and it never works there is a I mean it means nothing it means absolutely nothing but there's still a listing for Gremlins 3 on IMDB
Starting point is 01:50:55 I feel like you could trick anybody into believing that Gremlins 3 came out like 1994 oh sure yeah oh man straight to video yeah Grumlins 3 was awesome maybe the Oestevez was in it that's about right it's about right it's Billy and Fibikates is an in at you which
Starting point is 01:51:12 refused to do it. You can just make it up. You could totally make up like endless production history for that. Ed O'Neill had a great cameo as Al Bundy. Remember that one? That was fantastic. They really broke the fourth wall with that one. That's funny that you said Al Bundy, Chris, because when they showed Dick Miller
Starting point is 01:51:27 watching that Santa Claus TV thing, the first thought that popped in my head was a clip from Married with Children and then I was like, now that show didn't exist for another few years. But it is something that Al Bundy would have got caught up with his Santa Claus pants falling down while he's on the roof.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Oh, he had a lot of Santa Claus outfits. Oh, I could tell you. A lot of sad fucking Christmas is that house. Oh, absolutely, dude. And every last one of them smells like cigarettes. I think it's safe to say, but we'll go around the horn for tradition's sake. What with it being Christmas Eve and all? And a big night for
Starting point is 01:52:00 traditions. Steve Sadek, does this movie hold up? Yeah, it's kind of just perfect. I don't know. It's like a perfect like a curveball. It's not like exactly like, it's not like fucking, you know, like Schindler's List perfect Like what? No, you know, there are like great movies
Starting point is 01:52:14 that are great movies Sure. That say something. This is just like a really cool Exactly a dark comedy Which is really tough. I think black comedy is really hard to do. People try to do it.
Starting point is 01:52:23 It's really, when it's bad, it sticks. There's nothing worse than a black comedy That's not working. To be clear, you're not saying Schindler's list is a black comedy. I am not calling Schindler the black comedy.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Thank you very much. No, but and I think it's a really hard thing to put on paper this shouldn't work. All of the fucking ripoffs, your critters. your fucking goolies. They all tried to make this movie. They couldn't do it because it's just,
Starting point is 01:52:44 it's a bit of magic. I love it. No, this is really exactly like Schindler's list because it's all on black and white and then Maguire is in color. No, I love this movie. This is probably my favorite Christmas movie. It's up there with Christmas vacation.
Starting point is 01:52:59 They battle it out. And I mean, I love everything about it other than, of course, the problematic parts in the beginning there are not great. And the sequel is also great. And I love that it's just those two. I think about this all the time. You realize you're fucking cursing it right now by bringing this up repeatedly.
Starting point is 01:53:19 People have said it before. This Gremlins 3 thing has been in production since like 99. It's never going to happen. But like Terminator, I think about so many movies where the first two were so perfect. And if you just cut it out there, we would have been great. Like even the X-Men. If they do a Gremlin's 3, instead of having a radio guy be murdered, have them listen to a podcast. I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:53:43 So then who cut and released the episode? You know what? It doesn't matter. People don't think that far ahead. Maybe the Gremlin's cut it. Oh, no, wait, though. It's not podcasters, dude. Maybe it's someone doing like a Twitch stream. Oh, exactly. And you hear the Gremlin's come in.
Starting point is 01:53:59 We'll have to do that one day. Hey, this is Terry Gross. Anyway, yeah, I think it holds up. I think you guys are right by saying that, There's certain problematic things at the start, namely Hoyt X. No. Well, his dialogue, I guess, is what we're referring to. You just go to like minute three once, baby, please comes home is on.
Starting point is 01:54:22 It's a perfect movie. That's saxophone hits. You could just have him arriving with the gift and then at the end being like the guy comes around like, you fucking idiot. What are you doing? Yeah. But I guess it's a bookend. Yeah, it's a totally fun movie.
Starting point is 01:54:39 I don't know if it's my favorite Christmas movie I don't know if I have a favorite Christmas movie I can't even think of any other one Christmas vacation Die hard Yeah They're fine No those are good
Starting point is 01:54:50 What about Rudolph's Christmas special? No None of the animated ones He'd burn them No Anyway check out Grimlins From 1984 And I do like the sequel
Starting point is 01:55:00 Maybe even more I think Gremlins too is above it That might be a nostalgia thing for me But I love the insanity of that movie I like that Christopher Lee is in it That's pretty cool
Starting point is 01:55:11 I like that those twins from Terminator 2 are in it Yes they are and they're also They're like Joe Dante regulars They're also in his Looney Tunes movie Love those freaky ass twins They play the Warner Brothers in the Looney Tunes movie Oh that's funny I don't know
Starting point is 01:55:28 I'm glad that we did this for We Love Movies Month Because I have not seen this movie in a very long time So it's nice to revisit But I always stood by That one was better than two but two, like the last time I saw it too was honestly on like an HBO broadcast sometime during the Clinton administration
Starting point is 01:55:42 so I do want to check it out yeah John Lover's like the villain he like owns the business at the top of the whole whatever yeah he owns the building itself Trump type of thing but without the baggage fair enough
Starting point is 01:55:58 that is Gremlins from 1984 directed by the always awesome Joe Dante this month is of course all we love movies month here on the program. So Steve Sadek, what classic are we talking about next? Well, not what we're
Starting point is 01:56:12 talking about next. What's out right now? Oh, sure. Let's do that first. Yeah, we can talk about we've got an episode if you're on our $8 Patreon feed which usually has what's called the Nexus. For that, we've got a full episode on Star Trek First Contact, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:56:28 We've got an episode on Empire Strikes Back out on the Patreon feed. We just did Return of the Jedi last week. Now you can listen You can do the whole Star Wars trilogy if you get on our Patreon feed you can do the real trilogy. Well, that's right, because we did Star Wars
Starting point is 01:56:44 1977 last year on the Patreon feed and that episode is three hours long so checking it. Longer than once upon a time in Hollywood. That's right. There's a sinkable commentary to Predator coming out this month sometime around here.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Absolutely. There is an episode of animation damnation which is on the Rudolph Christmas special that the Rankin' Bass one. That's a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. And we started off We Love Movies Month, of course,
Starting point is 01:57:10 with Die Hard with a vengeance, yes? Yes. We were in studio with John Gabris. That was a great time. And that is on the regular feed, but the Patreon feed,
Starting point is 01:57:20 we must stress, Steve is very sick. He's, you know, he needs the medicine, whatever Tiny Tim needed. Exactly. I came in with little crutches. He did.
Starting point is 01:57:30 So please donate to Patreon and you will feel better. And you know, well, so on Patreon. Is there a Mandalorian half hour? That is right. Recapping all of the fucking episodes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:40 Every last one of them. On a somewhat weekly basis, mostly weekly. If you missed it back in November, there is the first episode chapter one, which is on the main feed. So I realize, yeah, this is like, is this the last we love movies? It's over with? No, next week. We have one more. The decade is ending in.
Starting point is 01:58:00 That is right. So what is happening then, Steve Sane? We're doing one of our favorite movies of this decade. Yeah. Mad Max Fury Road. Oh, yeah. This is great. I'm excited to break out this Blu-ray.
Starting point is 01:58:11 This will be my second time watching that film. And I loved it. I just only watched it the one time. I think I've only seen it twice, actually. I saw it twice in the theaters. Twice. I'm not a big rewatcher these days, but I love movies. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:58:23 So until next week, where we're loving Mad Max Fury Road. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Seda. Chris Cabin. Eric Siska. Take it easy. That was a hit gum podcast.

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