We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 467 - Orphan
Episode Date: February 4, 2020On this week's episode, the gang is chatting about the ridiculous eerie kid movie, Orphan! How is this kid sitting at the absolute back of the orphanage not an immediate red flag? Why does this girl d...ress like it's 1885? And to Hell with this movie tree house! PLUS: Tune into HBO's next hit current events show, Little Dennis Miller Live! Orphan stars Vera Farmiga, Peter Sarsgaard, Isabelle Fuhrman, Margo Martindale, and CCH Pounder; directed by Jaume Collet-Serra. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program, I just learned that this was executive produced by Rick Dalton.
It's Orphan. I'm Andrew Jupin.
Stephen Sadat. Chris Cabin.
Eric Siscus.
And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies, a comedy show, where we use a movie as a springboard for a profane and oft gross conversation.
Sometimes it's an orphan.
This week on the program, it is orphan from 2009, directed by Hame Colette-Sera,
What is it, a Polish gentleman?
No, I believe he's from Spain.
Oh, okay.
The thing is he makes garbage movies.
He made, what, three movies with Liam Neeson?
Yeah.
You know, people will defend the commuter,
and it's like, get the fuck out of it.
Who's defending the commuter?
Plenty of people.
Oh, my lord, you go in Letterbox,
Stephen, the esteemed folks I follow, love that movie.
That's one of those weird movies that, like,
probably was on, like, a guy here do cinema,
like, top ten list out of nowhere.
Yeah, they do that.
Every once in a while, they'll pull something like that.
I had fun with the commuter just a little bit.
I didn't like it.
It's just the Metro North logic.
I mean, it's not a hard thing to fucking do right.
I'm with Eric.
I cannot stand fucking egregious errors like that.
And that movie posits that the commuter rail like leaves Grand Central Station and passes and stops at a bunch of subway stations.
Yes, it's like, okay, now it's 66th Street.
And then like, is Jonathan Banks in that movie?
Yes.
Oh, sorry, Walter, got to go to Harlem 125th Street because I'm, why am I in the Metro
North? They wouldn't even honor this ticket. This doesn't even, I see fucking Mike the
cleaner getting off at Harlem 125th Street. I don't know. What do you mean?
Mike the Cleaner, the character. Yes, okay, gotcha. I'm like, why is this fucking dude
going to Harlem? He's got a battle shaft. Honey, honey, it's Mike the cleaner. He's in real life now.
But look at this shit, though. Okay, yeah, I'll stop talking about
the commuter. So House of Wax
remake. Oh, that's a problem. Which I
like. I think it's okay too. I think it's a good
classic Paris Hilton
kill in them. Yes, good one.
Goal 2, living the dream.
I have not seen it. Wait, what was it?
It's a soccer move. Yeah. Oh, I think you said
Gould 2 and I was like, tell me more.
I love you.
Mother, we're watching Gould 2
tonight. We're going to skip
Gull 1. It's just jumped to... But I'm going to be lost.
You always fucking do this, Harold.
No, sweetheart. We're just going to
to jump to Gould 2.
Baby, baby, it's not a two number.
It's a T-O-O-2.
So you know how in T-Rull 2 they say you don't piss on hospitality.
In Gould 2, they say you don't shit on it.
Then-Orphan, then unknown.
A Liam Neeson movie so boring we decided we didn't want to do an episode of it.
Yes, that's right.
There's a problem.
They're going to obtain the secret formula for corn.
That's right.
I'm in Germany, I think.
I don't know, actually.
The Germans are finding out.
our secrets of corn. It looks green
everywhere. That's a movie's about corn.
It is about corn. It's kind of like that fake commercial
in the middle of Michael Clayton.
Did he also do nonstop?
So that's yes. So then non-stop.
He did a trilogy with this dude.
Run all night.
Yep. That's another. Another Liam Neese.
He did it four. It's a quadrology.
Now people say that this one is good, but
no clue because I didn't see it. The shallows.
It's a fine movie.
Then the commuter.
And, oh,
Jungle Cruise.
Jungle Cruise and supposedly
I'll believe this one I see in Steve Sadek
the Black Adam movie
Yeah oh please that movie that's a fake movie
Wait that's DC right
Yeah that's the rock
This spinoff of Shazam that is
Essentially apparently gonna happen
They've been trying to make it for 50 years
But like this guy would fit into DC perfectly
Because this guy has never used color
In his movies my God
This is some dreary terrible shit
House of Wax starting with his first feature
House of Wax has like a fucking teal tithe
hint all over it.
There is a lot of color
in the shallows, I will say.
Can I just stop the hate train for five seconds
and let everybody know that I love this movie?
I kind of love this movie.
Yeah, this was your selection.
It's a movie you love.
I'm a sucker for an evil kid movie.
I love evil kids.
Evil kids, possessed kids, demonic kids,
and like so many of those movies
don't have the guts that this movie has.
This is true.
It's usually, and a lot of these are on Lifetime, too.
with this movie is very much like a high
high end lifetime movie in a lot of ways
and those movies never have the guts too
it's usually like there's maybe one kill
you think the dad gets killed but then at the end
he just has a broken leg someone's in a coma
they come out of it it's bullshit this movie goes for it
a lot of ankle trauma
in those movies a lot of ankle trauma
this movie's allowed to go for it because
towards the end the twist
is that it's not an actual child
so therefore they can go for it.
Even last year is the prodigy.
Like, it's a similar thing where it's like
it's a haunted kid, it's a kid who gets possessed by whatever.
Oh, this kid is a twisted file starter.
That's the movie.
That's the movie. So I should say for folks at home,
you know, we record these episodes well in advance and whatnot.
We're recording this episode in January still,
which is when we did our worst of 2019.
I thought that this movie, or,
that we're doing or the orphan whatever
was that movie. That's the movie I was
thinking of. The orphan's prodigy with
guts. Yes. There's even
one kill in that movie too where it's like
maybe. Yeah. Like I think the
dad in a car.
What are you going to do for
please? This movie is bad. The first
hour is a bit of a slog. I'll let the
folks at home know that. The first of the two
hours. Two hours and two minutes.
Two hours was still
too short.
Let's do two minutes on it.
i love it was too long two hours was two shorts and they added two minutes oh i see what you say
yeah yeah this two hours and two minutes in that nineteen ninety four this would have been a hundred
minutes and would be fucking oscar that's the thing is like if this was a hundred minutes 90 minutes
i could see your idea of it being a decent film yes a hundred a hundred minutes is a much better
movie i agree and i don't think that like so i mean this we tries to do thematic stuff i'm like
and don't bother it's an evil kid movie hey fear from aga start crying it's an evil kid movie that's the
thing you want to shave some minutes off you can start right here with this useless nightmare that
she has well i mean even before that now did they think this was going to be a huge fucking movie
because they do the wb logo different it looks like the suicide squad it did i wrote the same thing
it looks exactly like the suicide squad and like you don't even at least with the suicide squad
when it does that you understand why it's doing it this is like you don't get an answer for
what the logo is referencing until like an hour
more and a half into this fucking movie.
For me, it kind of immediately was like, oh,
she's crooked. I'm like, what
would this mean? Where would it come from? It's not like
anybody here as a black light artist.
Well, of course the orphan is crooked. I don't remember
that from the trailers. No, the trailer is very
much like, there's something wrong with this kid.
What's going to happen? Is she the devil?
Does the movie pitch it as like
a potential like paranormal situation?
Because I only saw the, I never saw the trailer.
I only saw the poster. The trailer is like some things
up with this list. Let me pull up
the poster because doesn't she have like jet black
eyes like all through it. She looks like
she's possessed. Kind of sort of.
Yeah, it's a super close up on her face
and it's like, she looks creepy, yeah.
The poster, you can't see her eyes. That's probably
what you're thinking. It's like a black. Can you
see her? Yeah, you can see the whites of the eyes.
But that could be
yeah, I mean, this is an evil kid movie
we should say it's a, it's about
Vera Vermiga and Peter Sarsgaard. They
lose a child, they have two children and they wind up
adopting a new child
who isn't all she's cracked up to be.
that's that's kind of it
it opens with this nightmare sequence
where she's like reliving ish
you know the day she lost the baby
and it's like you can tell right away
that this is a bad nightmare
because like she sits in the wheelchair
Peter Sarskirt's like
oh my wife is going into labor
you know
and he's at the desk like signing in
and this nurse is like okay
we'll take care of you
and the shot of the nurse pushing the wheelchair
and there's all this blood on the floor
and the nurse just keeps going
I was like well nightmare
but it keeps going
Like the nightmare goes on for like five, six minutes.
And what I love about the nightmare, can I quickly say, Chris Cabin?
He's gearing up for something.
I see he's fucking warming up.
This whistle's about to blow.
Blanca isn't crouching and electricity is starting to happen.
Jabba Jabondue.
Chris Cabin's warming up in the bullpen.
But first you.
What I love is Peter Cyrus Guard coming out with the camcorder in this fucking dream where
she's having, like they're ripping this.
baby out it's covered in blood and he's just like filming it like oh yeah i'm just this dad that's so
excited dude i got to tell you fucking dads and parents that are filming the birth get out of here
you perverts stark memory of fucking tom ardle to nine months the other thing though is that this
hospital looks like congress on krypton it's like the biggest building and it's nice and i'm like
where the fuck are you guilty where does this movie take place i don't think
think you ever know. It has to be Seattle
right? The fucking house they
live in, too. Because it's dreary all the time.
It's Toronto. That's where they
filmed it. I mean, it's
winter and it lets you
know, which I don't appreciate because it's
winter now. I do
think that her having a nightmare
about her losing
this kid and Peter Sarskard's got the
cameras like, hey honey, everything's going to be
great. It lets you know immediately she fucking
hates this dude. She wants out
of this relationship because her
Conscious is like, I'm a dickhead.
Hey, babe, you lose it a baby?
I'm going to film it.
But Peter Sarskart is also the doctor.
Yes, exactly.
So yeah, you're like, okay, yes.
Multiple man.
These people should be a part.
It's multiple man.
He is multiple.
I would love to be.
They had this layer onto it, and this is getting a little head,
but that, like, due to the traumatic loss of this child,
she turns to alcohol.
Sure.
And it's like, in an evil orphan movie, you don't really need the weepy alcoholism
storyline.
Totally right.
Totally right.
It is the one element too much, and it's sort of a thing where, like, they use it as a device later.
It's like, oh, now they're going to, now Peter Sardsgaard's upset because she's off the wagon or whatever.
And it's like, you can write that a little quicker.
Let's get to the evil orphaning.
Well, that's a Peter.
Speaking of which, Peter Sarsgaard is Peter fucking Sarsgaard in this movie.
So we already have a hit against him.
So they need to give her a hit.
He's like, he is so unlikable in this movie.
You will be.
He seems nice.
Oh, shut your mouth.
He's a cute guy.
He's a cute dude.
I don't know.
Let's give the orphan one more chance.
Like, fucking, come on!
Here's the thing.
Listen, I'm kind of with Steve here.
I am the first to turn on an evil kid.
Like, just the slightest.
The slightest.
But he's already a father, so, you know, I feel like he has to give kids slack.
The mistake Vera Fermiga makes in pointing out that she does indeed have an evil child on her hands here is that she's open about.
is that she's open about it.
Yeah.
You talk behind closed doors,
many, many closed doors.
There's a lot of things
that should go on behind closed doors
in this movie.
The two of them,
Via Farmeaga and Peter Sarsgaard's characters
in this movie,
two the dumbest fucking people.
It's great to have an open plan house,
but when you're doing certain things,
you've got to fucking get into a room
and close a door.
If you're bending someone over a counter
and fucking them,
it better be in a bathroom
with the door closed.
Not in the fucking kitchen!
Which we will talk about,
but I cannot believe that.
No, no, no.
It's safer here, honey, there's burners.
Can we also quickly mention that this movie is just like, boom, hit out of nowhere against adoption.
Yes, it is.
It's very much like, I don't know, you're going to invite one of those into your home?
A creepy thing from Eastern Europe.
But it also, it seems like such a weird because, like, you know, you hear things about adoption.
I've known people who are adopted kids or are trying to adopt kids.
And they were stabbed the death.
Yes, one, definitely.
But, no, but like, it's a fucking process.
It takes forever.
there's paperwork, there's background checks.
The two of them go to this fucking orphanage
run by CCH Pounder like they're going
to pick up a puppy.
Yeah. It's outrageous.
Stop, it's like a big screen TV.
They've talked already.
They're getting everything ready to go.
They've got to get in the back.
I told you that 55 inches is too big for our living room.
CCH Pounder is trying to get rid of this kid.
This kid is priced to move.
I'll tell you that much.
She knows that Esther is a lemon like you wouldn't believe.
She's really bad about hiding it.
Look, this DVD player has a VHS player right next to it.
Don't you want it in 2009?
Oh, man.
So we meet Via Formiga.
She's depressed, obviously.
We see her with a therapist.
She's talking about how she beat...
A pre-fame Margo Martindale.
Oh, that's who this is.
Yeah.
Because this was pre-Her season Unjustified, right?
Yeah.
Had Justified even started that?
Justify, I think, is 2010, 2011?
Yeah.
And she's just like, you know, she's talking about how she went to a wine store.
She almost bought wine.
She wanted to.
She didn't.
So she's conquered this huge problem.
I mean, she's battling it, but she's conquered it, whatever.
And like, that's kind of where you meet.
You meet.
They have two kids.
One is just a regular douchey boy with a fucking floppy haircut.
This kid stinks.
And I recognize from something.
And while you continue talking, Steve, I'm going to look it up because I have a feeling it.
Eric's got something.
He's charging up over there.
Well, listen, I can't tell kids.
apart. So I wrote down the name
Daniel and the girl
is Max and then the adopted
kid is Esther. That's true.
And Max is hearing
impaired. She's also
speaking in the entire movie and actually
the actress is also hearing impaired so she was
obviously doing and I think Vera
for my good is a good job with
ASL stuff. Yeah.
She doesn't. Oh, you know who he was?
This little kid. Actually, big year for this little kid.
Jimmy Bennett is the actor's name.
he played young Kirk in that
J.J. Abrams. Oh, that makes so much sense. He's the one driving the car to the Beastie Boys.
He says James Tiberius Kirk to the Robo Robo cop. That guy's kind of a free scum.
That dude is a total RoboCop. Robo truancy officer. That is why he wanted to leave the earth so bad is because after 2090, it was all the robocops that showed out.
That's true. There's a robocop at every street. And it will truly be a plan.
of RoboCaps.
Ooh.
Planet of Robocops?
That's something?
That could be a dumb comic.
They could like ride Ed 209's as horses.
Yes.
Oh,
you know,
that's what it looks like
when like Robocop's having a nightmare.
Imagine Robocop like went fucking nuts
and started turning all the cops
into the force into Robocop.
Stabbing dudes
and like reconfiguring their corpses into Robocop.
Not a better Robocop movie,
but a better Robocop sequel.
Like evil Robocop.
Yeah.
And he just doesn't,
no, no better. Like, he's just trying to put a fax machine
on a guy's head. Right, he's just like, I am
merely making him more efficient.
Just shoves a Super Nintendo in this dude's mouth.
Now I could play games on him or fax him.
Come, my brethren, just corpses
everywhere. Just corpses with
like, with appliances next
to them because they already even affixed any real
way. It's just like
it's a room full of like
electronic equipment and dead people. No, no, no.
There, it is a room of cyborg.
My army of robocops.
This cyborg can bleed or make popcorn.
This guy with no eyeballs has a TV on his lap.
It's all right. I tied it.
Question about Vera Formiga, who I do like as an actress.
Has she ever been happy?
Is there a role in which it's good?
She ever played a happy character?
I'm sure as a person, she's having a great time.
But, like, I've never not seen this woman, A, put through the, not put through the ringer.
She goes to the ringer every movie she's in.
Yep.
Like, in the beginning of up in that.
the air. Yes, she's kind of happy, kind of like doing it with Clooney. But she would never
open a ski resort. You know what I mean? Like, she's not the fun ski instructor. She's never known
hope. That is for certain. That is 100% on Vera Formiga. Yeah, I'm really trying to find something.
I really, I don't see it. It's a lot of ghost children. It's a lot of ghost children. She deals with a lot of
dead people in and around her life. You've got the departed where it's like, oh, okay, I'm just a
therapist, you know, stuck between these two
handsome dudes. But even when she's about
to fuck, Leonardo DiCaprio, she says
one of the, the line that
sticks with me in that movie more than anything else,
which is, your vulnerability is really
freaking me out right now. And then
the fucking, and then the band
pipes in, and they start fucking. Oh,
that's weird. I don't remember that line at all.
But I do remember, because this
movie, this whole time I was watching this movie, I'm like,
there's something fishy about
Via Farminga being in this movie.
And it's this. She was,
in another eerie kid movie
just two years prior to this
called Joshua. What's Joshua about?
The arrival of a newborn girl
causes the gradual disintegration
of the Karn family, particularly for
nine-year-old Joshua, an eccentric
boy whose proper upbringing and refined
tastes both take a sinister
turn. So it's like a murderous
little Frasier. But it's Sam Rockwell
in the Peter Sarsgaard
goal, I think. Step up.
Step up. A little bit. A little bit.
it so yeah i mean like and their marriage is going so well there's like a moment when they're about
to have sex and she's like yep not having it and like you know um they start talking about like
but that's not because she's like mad at him that's still like a whole like i'm not ready to get back
in this what with the losing the baby yes no exactly they're they're they're sexually frustrated
and they're just kind of sitting because it it comes into play later oh yeah i mean i mean this is also
shit i don't need in an evil orphan movie just adopt the kid i don't
need to know about your sex problems
I don't need to know about your alcohol problems
in the ultimate evil kid
movie the Omen
Gregory Peck ain't sitting around with
whoever played his wife talking about
you know this job of mine is
really taking us away from trying to start
a family they just adopt that fucking
kid yeah my dick doesn't work
so well also
you only need one other kid
I feel like these like rich white people
just scooping up kids I'm glad it was
a fucking murderous little
person well here's the thing that they're sitting around like it's just the two of them and they're
like and like peter stars goes like do you think we're ready for another kid i'm like why don't you
ask the kids you currently have because clearly the boy is not into it the boy is totally not
into and it's like that boy character's just used for like he's barely a character he's used to be he's
like he's tormented later on by esther but like you could just torment the torment the other
kid he's also just a piece of shit it's just another character that i that's just patting the run
time that you don't need in the narrative in my opinion also steve parents don't ask the
permission of children if they're going to add more children to the family i think that's a
reasonable thing especially like everyone's talking like this kid's like it's you got to have
that conversation would you like a new little brother or sister that we're going to adopt and
actually because then what you get it happened to me twice steve and fucking no one consulted me
about anything yeah but that yeah i'm saying like the natural way sure that things happen
But like, when you're buying him wholesale like at Costco.
Well, Steve, you got brothers and sisters.
I was the last, I am the last one.
Okay, so when they were, did they consult the creation of you?
No, I think, I mean, I'm sure people were consulted.
There was, there's some planning meeting.
You think so?
Like your parents sat down with Mark and was like, what do you think of this idea?
So we pulled a plug.
Now, others were consulting.
You know, they got a PR guy on the team.
Yes, certainly.
An executive producer was brought in.
The dogs had their way in.
So they go to CCH Pounder's Orphanage.
Anytime CCH Pounder shows up, I'm in a good mood.
Sure, she's awesome.
She's great.
I wish she was in more of this movie, but it is the thankless, like, the person who, like, oversees the child management or whatever.
Like, she will have later in the movie the fucking ubiquitous check-in scene where she's murdered immediately afterwards.
The one who knows.
Yeah, she's got the info.
They show up and she's like, all right, now.
You, Vera from I, I got laid down here.
Peter Saiz got laid down here.
We're going to do a face-off surgery.
Oh, fuck.
I watched the wrong movie.
This is Morgan Freeman?
No, it's a similar kind of a thing.
Yeah, I do see.
She talks.
It's almost like Catherine Hepburn.
She does kind of sound like Catherine Hepburn.
At first time, I was like, what is he doing?
But, no, I think Steve is correct here.
It's all bad impression.
founder's pseudo mid-Atlantic accent.
CCH Freeman, got it.
Here's a thing that, listen, when you have an Erie Kid movie and you're not getting to the
Erie Kid part of the movie, you know what's really obnoxious in the way you try to make
up for the fact that you're supposed to be putting on a horror movie?
All of these useless jump scares.
Via Farminga almost gets into a car accident, like a truck drives by, that's a big scare.
There's a scene where she's like taking medicine and she closes the medicine cabinet, and
it's, ah, Peter Sarascar is right.
And I'm like, stop with the truck.
Jump scares.
It is just too much
because there's even moments
of the film
like before we even
get to the orphanage
where it's just like
oh here's the
young son Daniel
and he's got a
porno mag in his tree house
and he's looking at
pornography which they show
it goes there Steve
it does go there
but is this from
1998?
Is this a period film?
Where did they get
this perfect 10
magazine from?
I'd rather watch
that movie
called Perfect 10
and it's about this little kid's horny journey
trying to get the magazine
and one of the kids really dings him too
because it's just like they're looking at
and he's like hey look this is cool right
it's hot and he's like hey man this looks like your mom
is like fuck my mom's Vera Farmerga
she's really good looking god damn it
well you're right Rusty
and also before we go to the orphanage
they're like playing guitar hero or something
that's after
oh is it after that's after yeah that's at her like
coming home party but like Peter Scarscar
doesn't give a fuck
about his son because
it's like oh hey dad look at this wow
cool oh dude it is the most
sarcastic shitty it is fucking good
super awesome buddy
and it escalates later though because he comes
downstairs and another city he's like turn that
shit off
I'm fucking sick of hearing the same
fucking twisted sister song
over and over while you fuck it up
you're sick and tired you're not good enough
for the blue button okay it's the easy
ones only red green and yellow
don't put blue or orange you're nowhere to
near it. You've ruined Boston for me, okay? I'm going to say it. You've ruined them.
Dude, that game was a phenomenon. It absolutely was. And that's why like this movie dates itself
so specifically because that was, it felt like an eternity, but it was a really short window of
people caring about those games. I kind of appreciate all like the iPhone ones in this movie.
Yes. Because it's just like, oh wow, it's sort of like now, but not really. They just went a bridge
too far with that, with the old pornography. Yeah, exactly. He just had to have to have.
like a dial-up modem maybe
if you're gonna go
just a little later guys do you think
this movie should have been set in like
1999 where that have helped things out
make a lot more sense
you get some corn in there
oh sure shit definitely
corn should have been on guitar here
or Esther knows how to play corn on the piano
what do you mean you know how to play corn
I've been teaching
you and you've just been lying
this entire time
so they're at this orphanage
And there's, you know, looking through the kids and whatnot.
And the thing is, much like with most retail situations,
stick to the front of the store, man.
Because Peter Sarzgard hears this little girl singing all the way up,
but he's like, oh, let me see what's in the back.
Like, that's the discount merchandise.
That's where the deals are, Steve.
What are you talking about?
Deals are not.
That's where the deals come from.
You're just going to buy the first thing they give you?
Because there's all these.
That's the new stuff.
That's expensive as shit.
I would love a scene of him haggling with the nun.
Listen, listen, listen.
I am not.
But the thing is also like there's not like here, here's the thing.
Adopting a child makes you a good person.
Absolutely.
Of course, yes.
Adopting an older child, which even CCH pattern points out, makes you a great person.
Sure.
Adopting a girl who is already isolated and dresses like a nun in her own right
and is kind of creepy.
And is singing his song made face.
famous by Jimmy Durante.
There's something up.
Now there's something up with this little orphan.
Now you are showing off, okay?
And that is when you get into trouble.
When you show off.
That's, well, because they still spend too much on this kid altogether because it's a town.
Did we see a bill?
Esther is a talented kid.
Like she can paint and all the, you have to look for a dumbest shit kid in the attic.
That's where the real deals are.
Well, that's where the, you could mold them in your image.
And Esther's already a solidified person, which is a big problem.
Not a good thing.
Chris Gavin, the first person to bring a coupon book to an orphanage.
Oh, you get the coupon for the orphan.
Oh, man.
Also, here's another thing.
Like, super talented prodigies, like once in a lifetime.
Sure.
Right?
The prodigy.
So, yeah, exactly.
So here's the thing.
He walks into his room.
this painting that she's working on is incredible right there it's one of two things
this is some eerie demon child or it's a fucking adult that looks like a kid for some medical
reason because kid artwork is garbage yeah i don't i i want to see the girl playing
in candy land by herself scribbling with a fucking crayon and it looks like shit
dumb as shit you guys are right dumb as shit is what you're looking for because you look at that
painting you're just looking at a price point going up exactly and now that's
the third you know she's a little genius
there's going to be therapy bills but i got anxiety
now i'm paid for her medicine special
schools to
to foster the talent is what you're going to have to pay
for ladies and gentlemen
so cc h planners like oh i've seen
you you've noticed esther why don't
you take her out of here immediately
what do i need to do to take this kid off a lot
today she like gives them
$500 she's like
yeah just buy her some new clothes
she looks like a fucking American girl
doll in that shit look she's a fixer
rapper is what she is
and uh listen
I'm gonna include weather stripping which I
usually overcharge for
we'll pay
the water bill you pay the heating
uh but so she's like
oh you know she is she's from Russia
um she's like you know
big problem
turns out later we find out she's from
Estonia which is like a smaller
eviler Russia
that's what the movie tells you
yeah but
No, she's like, oh, she's from Russia, and her previous family burned in a house fire, and she's the only survivor.
Yep, I'm going to stop you there.
You know, let's go back out to the main floor.
The showroom.
Can I test drive one, maybe take one home for a?
That's all I need to know, man.
First of all, I don't trust anyone, adult or child who is the sole survivor of a house fire.
Never trust a sole survivor of anything.
Are you kidding me?
Because they're either in on it
Or like oddly cursed for some other reason
Yeah, I mean we were doing cocaine down there
And you know I went down to the corner store
The fire was on
And I just didn't know I didn't think
Oh my God
She was the one that made it out of Manchester
By the sea
It wasn't Michelle Williams
It was her
But yeah I mean yeah I agree
Stop you right there
I just like oh she's this house fire
Blah blah blah
Oh and she's the other other weird thing
is she's got these ribbons on all the time
and the only trouble we've really ever had,
which comes to be proven to be a lie later on, by the way,
because they said that she was in all sorts of trouble.
Like, CCH Pounder is lying here.
Oh, right, yeah, she's really claiming
that this girl's got like a spotless record.
Yeah, and she's like, oh, and then, you know,
the only thing is like whenever we try to take the ribbons off,
she gets a little cranky.
It's like, no, she gets psychotic is what she gets.
It's a little stabby.
Also, you're telling me you never washed under those ribbons?
Exactly.
Buddy, that's that what the smell is?
I mean, we, we, we, we,
We've already said that it turns out that this kid is an older person with a metal condition.
Yeah. She's 33 years old. So we find out that there's scars under those ribbons. Yes. Right.
Because she, because they strapped her in a straight jacket and she would pull it so hard that it scarred her. Okay. I mean, fucking twisted, dude. Great facility, dude. Like you see someone doing that. Maybe there's another way to like put this person, you know, strap this person.
down or whatever you're trying to do. She went to Estonian
Arkham it seems so it's a little
different. We get a look at it. It looks
like it may. It looks like where you like
keep your ski equipment like it's not a great
place. No. Where the hell do you keep your ski equipment?
Like in like a garage I imagine. All right now everybody
stop for a second and picture Chris Kavan
ski. There it is. You'd have to go back many
a year but it was very funny. I feel like I would break both my legs
immediately. If I put on skis at all
Split you down the middle.
Yeah, no, just break them both.
Steve would somehow just do a bone tomahawk on himself.
Just torn in half.
I grew up between two ski resorts and I never went skiing.
I've only been cross-country skiing.
I kind of want to do that.
It seems relaxing.
Yeah, I mean, I was younger.
It was on like a golf course in the winter upstate.
Like, it was fine.
I tried downhill.
It took me two hours to get down that hill because I kept on crashing.
Like constantly
Every time
I played that
Windows video game
Where no matter how good you do
The Abominol Snowman comes to the YouTube
Yeah didn't you hate that
It's like I'm doing okay here game
Let me continue enjoying this
But that is true of skiing
You can get eaten by abominable snow
Yeah that shit happens all the time
So they bring this kid home
She's in the car like practicing sign language
To meet the sister
There's a nice little sign language greeting
the older brother
like hates her immediately
like that's the whole thing
that's why you fucking ask
that's why you talk about it
I mean
I don't know
I don't because here's
and I understand like
you shouldn't get a full vote
like you know what I mean
like I understand that
but I mean it should be brought to committee
and also like take into into
consideration like oh he's going to make her life
a living fuck
A we've got a shitty son
Vera Formiga and Peter says
well you know he's going through
the little shit phase right now
yeah acknowledge that you're
kids sucks. I mean, part of the problem is
like you're adopting a girl that's like
his same age or...
Possibly even older. Right. So it's like
he needs to still feel like an
alpha or whatever. So you need to get
a younger girl or... Yeah, like
exactly. I agree with that. It seems
a bit too much, especially if the kid's resistant.
So yeah, he hates her. This is the
guitar hero scene and like they're giving her all these
presents. Oh, they give her, what is it? Oh, like
an easel. Yeah. She likes painting.
And there is a grandmother who
kind of comes to nothing but just keeps popping in.
Dude, it's hilarious, though.
I believe it's supposed to be she is Peter Sarsgaard's mother.
This scene, because, like, this is, like, he sort of yells at the son, and this is
where he goes out and the buddies are looking at the porno in the tree house and whatever.
And so Vera Farminga is watching the younger girls, the younger daughter, and then this
Esther outside playing, and she's like, oh, look at her playing by the pond.
Like, nothing happened.
By the way, this movie, the establishing shot of this house, like, it starts.
with like thin looking ice
in the foreground and I'm like well
someone's going through that by the end of this movie
we need to talk about the house the house is
incredible and insane
and the inside though
looks like it's unfinished
yeah it just looks like there's a bunch of like
bare wood you know I think
Frank Lloyd wrong
did this house
oh man how long you've been sitting on that
I just thought of it
nice I'm a genius
but yeah
it's all this open plan
shit and like this and like
a lot of awkward angles and like
sloped glass roofs. Perfect
murder house. It looks great. I would
live there. Oh, of course I would live there.
Do they also appear to have no neighbors by the way
just say. Well, do they own all the land
around it? Like ex-Moxina?
Yeah, of course.
It is, but I don't think it's that much property.
It's a lot of property around. It's in the
middle of the rainforest. Peter Scarsga
instead of XMachina, he's making robocops
in the basement.
now what all i have to do is put the telephone up his eyeball socket and that will make him a robocop he's a robot cop honey
but she says this to the mother-in-law and then this woman i don't know i don't remember what it is she says
but she it's like incredibly fucking shitty and this woman walks out of the room like not breaking eye
contact with vera farmiga it is hysterical oh it's something about like it's a religious thing isn't it
No, because she's like...
Oh, with the booze?
Yeah, so it's like, oh, it's like, you know,
that everyone needs their moment of clarity.
And, like, Viramara's like, well, I don't...
I didn't, because I'm not in AA.
I didn't do AA to get sober.
She's very much...
Also, this movie, I think, is a little anti-A-A-A.
Because she's like, that's a fucking AA term.
I don't go to that bullshit.
Steve, orphaned superfan.
What is the exact backstory here?
Now, she was drunk and passed out
when Max, the daughter, was almost drowned in the pool.
And Peter, Sarzgard,
Save the day he came in.
It's not how the other, she lost a child in childbirth as well.
Yeah, she lost a child and childbirth.
I think because of that, she started drinking really heavily.
Yes.
In that time, she got wasted and, like, was supposed to be watching the kids.
And they fell in the middle of this fucking, also, like, put up a fence at that point.
But it's also like, if your kid can't fucking get around a pond, maybe, maybe this is just Darwinism.
Natural selection, dude.
Exactly.
Actually, though, I thought the movie was sort of.
with a cliff in my backyard.
I was going to say,
I would love you as a cop
and like a dead kid
comes out of a pound.
Well, I mean,
honestly,
the best thing for him,
really,
right?
I mean,
sink or swim,
you know?
I thought the movie
was saying that it was
the falling in the water
and the most drowning
that also made her death.
I don't know if that's,
it's not because she does
clarify later.
She's born that way,
yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Oh,
also kind of around here
because it is wintertime.
I've got to talk about this.
There is some bad
CGI snow throughout this movie. Yes, there is. Good grief. And some bad
CGI breath as well, I believe. Sure. That's never looked right though. No, it's
there. We still haven't cracked that code. We have not. Right around here, one of the,
again, in this movie, I'm like, I am here for the weird kid and nothing else. It's like
Vera Farminga, like, feeling great. It's been a great day of like Esther fit in and everybody
had a great time, blah, blah, blah. The mother-in-law was only like mildly shitty, whatever.
So she gets all horned up
And she goes in bed
And climbs in from like the foot of the bed
Under the sheets and just starts fucking
Suckin Sarsgaard's cock
And like Esther has like a blowjob alarm
In her head she like sits up
Immediately what is that supposed to be
And I guess that this is a part of the movie
Where you don't know if it's supernatural or what
Wait wait the blowjob alarm
Oh dude was speaking of supernatural blowjubs
That's an old ghostbusters gag
Oh my blowjob alarm is going to
Off.
Esther, wake up.
Let it be.
Oh, let it be.
But it's kind of weird because, like, she starts blowing him,
and Peter Starsgarde's, like, laughing.
And I'm like, dude, you know what you don't do?
Don't laugh during a blow job.
That's, I think she can hear him being like, ooh, ah.
He's receiving the loudest blowjob in the world.
But it's not from the sucking.
It's from him laughing and getting blown.
Well, you don't know that.
There could have been a brass band down there.
What?
I don't know.
Like a fucking...
I thought you meant like a cock ring.
No.
You meant like literally an actual...
Wait, the whole band is under the sheets with her.
And trombones, like hitting his nuts.
Well, the music she's making, I'm saying, could be just as loud.
I feel like as a parent you have a conversation like, when you can't have sex.
When you can't have sex?
When are we sucking in when I'm...
Are you saying we should bring the kids in
And the committee
Should dad get a blow job tonight?
Could we vote on this?
But also you have like quiet sex
Yeah
It's quiet time
This is a base
Or put on the radio
Yeah, exactly
Sure.
I don't know
Anything but laughing
Pipe up the surge Gainsburg
And do whatever you want
You know what I mean?
And also maybe
I don't know
Lock the bedroom door
Great call
You idiots!
These are two of the worst parent cinema has ever seen.
So, Esther comes like, oh no, we're afraid of the lightning.
And she's like, I want to sleep next to Daddy.
And he's like, not right now.
I sort of was remembering what the twist was of this movie.
And when she says that, I was like, oh, yeah.
This movie's going to get weird, probably.
And he makes a thing, too, where he's like,
Uh, just a second.
Like, he's still laughing, like, don't want my adopted daughter to see my erection.
Let me think about severed heads of dogs now.
Hold on.
Wow.
Things got to go down quick.
Oh, fuck, it's going back up.
What's wrong with me?
Well, I have to suicide lake, I guess.
Oh, fuck.
The next day she's going to school, and Esther, as we kind of talked about, she wears these ribbons,
but she also wears this, like, really, like, old school style.
Looks like an American girl, though.
She does.
Like Pollyanna or something.
She looks like she's like from 1890.
Yes.
And Vera Formica's like, now, don't you want to try those jeans I bought you?
And she's like, what, you don't like the way I dress?
And she's like, well, no.
She's like, do you think the children will make fun of me?
And I'm like, yes, obviously.
What, do you think I look like a character from Meet Me in St. Louis?
She also says in my like, but it wasn't it you who told me?
me that being different was okay?
Like, yeah, it is.
Crocko Jack.
It's kind of great because Farmeek's reaction
that is like, you're right, little girl.
Nice head fake.
You know, we don't do want to do,
we do want to be different, but we also don't want to
paint targets on our backs.
You know, you know, you got the ribbons.
I'm giving you the ribbons. You got the accent.
That's going to be, this is middle school,
sweetheart. These kids are going to eat you
a lot. Exactly. That's the thing.
It's tough because as a parent, you just want to be like,
look, these kids are going to kick the shit out of you.
I say go the entire other way.
No, honey, it's great that you look like Charlie Chaplin's first wife.
Fantastic. It's a great look.
About the same age, too.
I mean, and it's just like she knows what's going to have.
Why, like, why doesn't she just keep her head down and not make waves?
She gets to school, and immediately one girl says she looks like, like, oh, she says actually like,
hey, a little bo peep wants her dress back, babe.
Is that working for anybody here?
Coming up next, we've got the yeah, yeah, yes.
Middle school Dennis Miller.
Oh, man, Lil Miller.
Does anyone have an esoteric word for boogers?
This would help me out.
Yeah, this here is Rob.
He just goes around with me and plays a tape of everybody wants to rule the world.
Whenever I enter a room, he plays.
It's great.
Next to me on the other side of Rob is Carol.
She just walks around following me everywhere
with large blow-up black and white photos of things
from the newspaper.
I make comments on them from time to time.
Oh, geez, babe.
Charlie got fat over the Christmas break.
His chair is buckling worse than Neville Chamberlain
is all I'm saying, babe.
Speaking of a little bo-peep,
did you take a peep at Monica Lewinsky's dress
has been all over the news?
This gets weird.
So did you hear that Principal Smith is dating
dating Mrs. Johnson over there.
Thank God they're not in the White House, huh?
Woo!
Some kids love it in the back.
That kid's great.
It's all the kids who write for the school paper.
They love it.
So, you know, day of school sucks.
Vera Farmersy yells at the kids for playing on the ice for a quick second.
Because Christopher walking comes in and it's like,
The ice is going to break!
Oh, that's right. I forgot about them.
Then he shakes Esther's hands and realizes she's going to be a terrible president.
Actually, I mean, this is a great idea.
We should be dead zoning all orphans.
I mean, there's good orphans, I know.
But we need movie orphans.
Yes.
I mean, even that, listen.
Yeah.
Movie orphans, it's tough, man.
Even that fucking little Annie, she was a troublemaker.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, she should have left her.
Christopher walk and touched her.
He could have seen all that musical.
shit coming a mile away.
The song is going to suck.
She has to be stopped.
It's all fucking mental about it.
It's fucking little redhead orphan Annie and Martin Sheen about to turn the keys on launching
nukes.
There is nothing funnier than at the end of the dead zone.
Martin Sheen uses a child as a human shield.
Oh, man.
It is such a special moment in cinema history.
It predicted the Trump presidency.
I'll say it.
I have the courage to say it.
But I will also say that last year at the Burns Halloween Marathon,
I played that movie for like it was like a 305th anniversary, I think.
And I was sitting in the theater because I wanted to see the end scene.
And I'm in there.
And I'm kind of off to the side so no one can see me.
But boy, did I laugh hard when that end?
I was like, oh, shut up.
You're not at home watching this?
It's a great movie.
It is a great movie.
Yeah.
So she's like, you know, we don't play on the ice.
We know this.
Of the, by the way, the tree house we should talk about.
It's a movie tree house.
I hate it.
It's 90 feet in the year.
I don't know what.
It's like three stories high.
And it's also like way too far away from the house.
Also, I say whenever like even whether it's a child of your own that starts acting eerie or if it's an orphan that's acting eerie, the minute the eeriness starts, you got to get rid of that fucking tree house.
Yep.
Because that's the whole base.
Have you seen hereditary?
Have you seen it?
This is the perfect example.
You got to get rid of them.
Like, this shit always happens.
And this one, too, was also cursed.
Wasn't there a tree house in the good song?
There is a tree house.
Cursed one, too.
I think a kid almost died in that one.
The Simpsons Bartow almost always dies in that thing.
They named, the horror, the yearly horror thing is named after the tree house.
That's true.
Cursed.
Homer, it's getting pretty bad out there.
Can you check on the kids?
They're fine.
Although, isn't it a tree house that helps?
defeat stupid and
Ernest scared stupid
he doesn't have the high ground
he has the high ground
was the demon name stupid no he was just
scared scared stupid this came up
on our episode because for years
before seeing the movie I thought that stupid
was the name of the monster
that's what I thought too
what's the name of the monster
I think it's just like droogie or whatever
yeah yeah yeah yeah the little
kid's got a paintball gun
and just fuck this scene
he's firing a he's firing it on
he's having a fun time
This kid is way too young for solo paintball, I think.
Paintball in general.
This kid is fucking way too young.
Like 10, maybe, maybe 11.
No.
I mean like 35.
Also, super dating itself.
I think the paintball wave has crested.
Well, the paintball thing, this weird thing that came up in trivia,
not only are they obsessed with telling me what the fucking make a model of every goddamn gun that's ever been used in that fucking side is,
They now have the paintball gun make and model on there.
I mean, who can't, who the fucker?
If you're typing that in IMD, just put it in your mouth.
You can paint the back wall your throat.
Eat some paint.
Yeah.
Eat some paint.
So he's like he's obviously getting off his frustrations.
He's like shooting all those little action figures.
And then a pigeon lands.
And the pigeons like, do it.
Do it.
You don't have the fucking guts.
Dare you to fucking shoot me.
You're small.
I'm above you.
You fucking shoot.
Shoot one pigeon tomorrow, a thousand more to send on your home.
I can fly.
What the fuck you do?
Dude, this pigeon's quickly becoming my favorite character.
Until.
I'm on Esther's side.
Yeah, that's right.
Oh, well, she's not on this pigeon's side.
He shoots it because he gets tempted.
He shoots it.
And then he's like, oh, no, it hurt the pigeon.
I can't believe it.
Classic fucking gun nut shit, dude.
Like, it's all fun until it gets real and then fuck you,
little kid. So this pigeon like drops
down. And the poor thing, man, I'm like
all right, little kid. Now I hope you
go fucking ice skating on that slush
that's out there.
And Esther comes with like, what do
to do the pigeon? And he's like
Oh, I didn't think it was
going to happen. She picks up this brick
and she's like, finish it.
It's Safaris. She's like, if you don't finish
it, put it out of misery. It's
going to starve. No, no, no. Pigeon, you're going to be okay.
You're going to be okay, Pitchin.
He's doing CPR with his index fingers.
Are you a pigeon doctor?
Give me my little black bird seed box.
But then she takes the brick and smashes it because you won't.
Oh, dude.
And she's like, don't worry.
It's in heaven now.
Dude, this thing pops like a grape.
It's amazing.
I think it was like a, like a, they put a water balloon filled with red paint and then like
like sewed a pigeon puppet around it.
Because it just explodes.
It's very funny.
Oh man, if that was Gallagher's new thing,
it's like, that's it.
We're moving on to pigeons.
Dude, do you think he did that?
Like, he put in an alternate timeline somewhere,
like back in like the 1980s,
Gallagher played Madison Square Garden to a sellout crowd.
Sure.
You know what?
This city's got a lot of a bunch of pigeons around here.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to help you clean up the street splat.
Oh, my God.
Then he keeps upping the ante.
He's like, here's some frogs.
Splat.
Some rats.
I went to Times Square and I got a couple homeless people.
Get up here homeless people.
There's a guy dressed his Mickey Mouse.
No, no.
Yeah, we went to the Madison Square Gone Gallagher show.
It was two hours of him killing rats with a hammer.
Also pigeons.
Some frogs.
He was dragged down by police.
There were no other bits.
I got to be honest.
Oh, my God.
Gallagher is escalating.
He's no longer butchering
innocent fruit.
He's just fucking doing a tour of cults
and he's like doing it to kids
in front of them.
Yes, exactly.
So it's tub time.
Yes, there's taking a bath.
And she's like, she locks the door
Vera from Michael's like, hey, we don't lock doors
in this house. And she's like, but what?
I got you, don't need the privacy.
And she's like, all right, I'll let you do it this at one time.
she uses the excuse to sort of go into her room
to do a little bit of light snooping.
Just a little bit.
And she looks at these dresses that I'm thinking,
I'm with Vermiga here, man.
Like, this is all dry clean only shit, dude.
That's why you get these kids jeans and cheap shirts.
A load of laundry will be done.
She even says earlier in the movie,
she's like, don't you want to put on that pair of jeans?
I bought you?
No, all right.
Do you want anything with the brats with the Z girls on them?
it's 2009 she might want it
nothing but delicates huh
alright okay all right
guess I gotta send out for Esther's fucking
clothes now she's gonna wear
it every day oh god
where's the wine the stupid
thing that like
sets the clock for the snooping
and she's like look let me lock
door and then I promise just
like in orphanage I will sing
song so you know I'm not drown in tub
yeah and she's like singing
the Jimmy Durrani song
again.
I sing Chattanooga
Chucho for you
while you hover.
And she finds, Vera Vermega
does this Bible
with a photograph of a man in it,
a grown-ass man.
It's true. Well, she...
Mystery. I don't know. She's
a Gen X or she's born in
19776. She should be singing like, I don't know,
like a pearl jam, possibly.
There's a photo of Eddie
Vetter in her Bible.
I will sing,
Jeremy.
This fucking favorite song.
You know, I was snooping through Esther's Bible,
and the only thing that fell out was a CD copy of the singles soundtrack.
I don't know, something is wrong with Esther.
No little girl should be into grunge music.
I love Soundgarden.
So it's like cut to the very next day.
She's in school.
She's getting bullied once again.
and it's this girl that comes
This is the little bo-beep girl.
I don't know, man.
This girl is just a little piece of shit.
Is this over the Bible now?
Yeah.
Like Jesus freak.
And then I don't know what's going on with this, though.
This Bible explodes in this hallway.
Well, she's getting it from both ends, by the way.
She's getting it from Danny, her brother, quote, and pig child, Brenda.
Because she's like, oh, he's like, you're not my sister.
You suck anyway.
She falls over
and he's a loser and then her Bible
falls over the place. But like these pages
are like George Costanza's wallet
there's paper flying.
It's like fucking Brazil. I expected
her to disappear.
What a dumb effect.
Just let it fall on the floor.
Robert Deere just comes out of it. We got to get
you out of here, kid.
Got to get you back to Estonia.
Exactly.
So now I, in night
outfit I fight the big thing. I have
wing.
We get a freak out here though.
We get to see what happens
when you try to touch these ribbons
because she's trying to pick up all the papers
to the Bible and this other girl's like
oh, what's that, your collar doggy
and like touches it.
And it's a really dumb shot of this girl
screaming like she's fucking
banshee from X-Men.
I thought you know glass was going to break.
Cars were going to explode.
Do we not, did I just imagine this?
Do we not see like a just ever since like
briefest sound wave?
No, we did not see a sound wave.
Because the camera does kind of like a
It might do a distortion.
In and out.
Kind of like vibration sort of thing.
Something you would have seen in a Marilyn Manson video.
Yeah, okay.
Do you like, maybe it's a thing that like,
you know, people that have this.
I love Madeline Manson.
That's a great video.
It is.
I also like the dope show.
It is a very good video.
We are all stars now in the dope.
show that's someone trying to give maryland manson directions in moscow
boy when it went in moscow look up the dope show for a good time um no like maybe it's a medical
condition you know like this this whole uh condition she has of where she looks like a child even though she's
growing older. I need to re-watch
the tin drum
to see if that kid has any sound waves.
That kid's a screamer, that's right.
He can break class. He does. He goes,
ah! Maybe it's a thing.
Oh, yes.
What does the doctor call it
proportional dwarfism? Yes.
It's like, oh, all these people
afflicted with proportional dwarfism can also
scream and shatter glass.
You know, I,
Professor X, like to call them mutants
and I want to put them in a special school.
No, they're just people with a condition.
No, they're mutants.
All of these mutants come to my house.
I don't know, that guy just, he's got nine fingers.
Sounds like a mutant to me.
Yes, the X-Men.
How about X people?
X-Men.
Professor Xavier, give me my child back.
He's just dyslexic.
No, no, mutant.
And I'll call this one.
No, your name's not Esther.
You're orphan.
special name, you're an ex-man.
That's right, and you with dyslexia
will call you jumble.
Colorblind will call you
grayishke.
Well, no, I'm just, I literally, it's not
even like that bad. It's just I have problems with reds
and greens. No, no. Special
mutant school for you.
Check out this mutant we got.
It's a real interesting one.
Okay, he's got all
bad grades. So I call him
F.
That's it.
He's a muted.
He's an F-man.
Orphan, F-men.
Assemble.
Folks,
orphan, F-man, I have some terrible news.
On our last mission to space,
Jumble was killed.
Why was I just sending
small children into space?
I thought, your powers could help you,
but it seems like they're just
actually just inconveniences in your day-to-day life.
Yes, we at the X-Men found out
that there was something going on
at the World Trade Center
and we dispatched orphan in EFman.
And it didn't, I don't know what happened.
I'd like you to meet your new leader,
The Kid from Wonder.
Oh, God.
That was another movie I watched someone watch on a plane.
That was more than enough.
What is Wonder?
It's the Jacob Tremblay, Julia Roberts movie
where he plays a kid that has a physical face thing.
Well, that kid.
Owen Wilson is the dad.
Yes.
Julia Roberts is the mom, I want to say.
He's a mutant, for sure.
That kid, I think, is secretly 35 years old.
I think so, yeah.
I'll call you often number two.
And he can break a car over his head.
Oh, 2 instead of X2.
I like it.
So we have
And then this is another
It's a scene where like
You could not have it
And it will be fine
Except it does kind of pay off later
There's a scene where
They have this like
It's the dead of winter
They have this gorgeous greenhouse
And she's in the greenhouse
Esther is
With Vera Farmiga
Whose name is Kate
Yes
And Kate is saying
You know oh yeah
You know
This is a little plaque we have
To our daughter
She was stillborn or whatever
and we keep her ashes in here
and this plant grew
and so long as these flowers are here
it's like a part of her is still with us
if you were looking to emotionally terrorize me
this would be a very important thing to know
this is all she's letting her know
she also is like oh here
I think she has a problem
when she sees them
later on I think it's maybe the same night
everything's going so well
this is when we start fucking in the kitchen
it's the very next scene
because my notes are kitchen makeout
very next line kitchen fucking.
It's like 7.45 at night.
The kids are maybe in bed.
Seinfeld reruns are still playing.
It's like maybe playing video games somewhere else.
And like they're right.
It's not too late for guitar here.
The prime time lineup hasn't started yet.
That's for sure.
They're cleaning up from dinner.
Right.
And like they're next to the, they bump up to each other.
Sar's Garden for my gosh,
but they're bump against each other in the kitchen.
And they're like, hey.
And they start making out.
That's a little something.
They make some dinner for their genitals.
They're fucking
What a disgusting way to put that
Because it's like
Baby are you chintels hungry
Because mine are starving
For dinner
Oh my God
Stop that
So yeah
It's like they're making out
Making out making out
And then the next thing you know
She is bent over the counter
And they are fucking
They both take their shirts off too
It's like you need
If you're doing
First of all you can't do this in a house
With three grown
walking around on their own children.
And two walls, apparently.
Well, to be fair, this house is humongous.
This is a castle.
It is.
It's a castle with an open floor plan, my friend.
You can see this kitchen from all sorts of angles.
Go into one of the guest bedrooms or the second salarium and fuck there.
You'd think they'd have a sex room with how big this house is.
Sure.
And a door that locks.
Well, it was, but that was Esther's bedroom.
Oh, damn it.
We certainly can't fucking our own bedroom
I can smell it in the room
You must have had fun
And Esther comes down and sees
And I mean like yeah
We're thrusting
We're making noises
Dude there's like
There's like you know
Like
sound effects happening
And I was
Let me tell you I was laughing
You want assert your dominance
Just both of you stare at Esther
And keep fucking
You're like yeah what
Go to your fucking room
Do you need something missing
Listen
and welcome to the family.
We love each other.
We love each other here, okay?
I mean, setting those boundaries by screaming at this child,
maybe it's the thing that this kid craves discipline.
So she, for my guy's like, listen, what you saw last night,
sometimes mommy's daddy's love is, they fuck.
And she's like, what?
I said, I know, they fuck.
Are you deaf?
And she's like, freak it out.
Sorry, she's like, I don't know, there's something wrong.
It's not even that she said the word
She knew what it meant
She said it perfectly
And I was like
I don't know
Kids pick that shit up
Kids know how to use that shit immediately
She's in fucking middle school
The funniest thing I've ever seen
My 7 year old nephew
We were just talking to him
In one room
And then his mother was like
She called him from the other room
Like you know
There's something that wrong here
Blah blah blah
And it's like
Oh fuck
The way he said fuck
The tiniest little kid
Fuck
Kid swearing is hilarious
It's amazing
Always will be. You want to ever explain how good boys did as well as it did?
That's the whole reason. Yeah, it's like two hours of that joke.
Speaking to Jacob Tremblay. I forgot that even happened.
So do you see it, Chris Gabby? I did. And it made a lot of, that fucking thing made money.
Did you like it, Chris Cabin? I did not. Okay.
Because that, as I said, at a two-hour movie is not good. That has a five-minute experience.
Okay, picture this. Instead of the good boys, but they're small 30-year-old Russians.
They should definitely be smoking more.
They're playing fucking cards.
They're all like sleeve tattoos.
We're Russian Mafia.
Oh man, Eastern Promises, but with all little kids?
Yes, I'd watch that, except for that fucking steam rooms.
Well, you'd have to blur all that out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because then you go to jail.
Maybe it's at a pool.
Yeah, everyone's got bathing suits.
It's a pool party, a birthday party.
Larry Clark's Eastern Promises.
Oh, Jesus.
Yikes.
Also, by the way, this scene here, it shows you immediately the kind of parent that Vera Farminga's character is, because it's like, this poor little Esther has one transgression, and fucking Vera Farminga's like, you know what, we need to get her to see the shrink immediately.
And Peter Sarsgaard is like, what?
What?
Really?
Because she said fuck.
Come on.
I got to fucking pay this copay now.
Also, she said fuck.
Well, also she saw your dick there, Pete.
Yeah, exactly.
How about that shit?
That's the thing.
She saw thrusting.
You know what I mean?
During the thrusting and like the reveal that Esther's watching them, there is a definite jump scare there.
Yeah.
And I'm like, again, you can't have a jump scare when there's also thrusting in the same frame.
I don't know.
Like I think, you know, some people are afraid of planes.
I'm afraid of little girls and fucking American girl dolls watching me fuck.
I'm still planes.
I'm still planes.
I'm still planes.
So the next scene is the park
At the park
There's this woman that's like
Openly like fucking hitting on Peter Sarsgaard
Like he's fucking I don't know
Dean Martin
I could smell it through the television
The horniness
Why don't you come over my house
And move a chair with me
Look
They've already fucked
Yes I'm 100%
They've fucked already
You do not come up to somebody
That you are trying to fuck for the first time
And just put out all the fucking signals like that
why not i don't think i don't believe that's what you're looking for and that's all you want is that
instant gratification you will say something as dumb and obvious as move at chair i don't know i think it's
a familiarity there's a familiarity to the discussion do you think the first time she hit on him
it was like do you want to come over and have dinner uh for our genitals
esther sees that and then she sees her nemesis her schoolyard bully in this oh right
this little bouncy house she goes up there we got another kind of jump scary kind of they're in a bouncy
About the house. What he called? It's a
wooden...
Oh yeah, like the wooden castle playground.
Yes, yeah.
We had one of those in my grade school.
Someone burned it to the ground.
Really? Oh shit, dude. The orphan showed up.
I know.
So she shoves
this girl out of the house and
like she hits the slide wrong and this leg
goes crooked.
It's crazy. And also
like figure out what
you're doing here movie because this effect
is really great. Like her one leg hits
the slide and it's like a
but then later we're told
she just like broke her ankle
no fucking way dude that's a compound
fracture I mean because like
in that that's what the second
the pigeon is one thing
the little girl out of the house and I'm like
okay this movie might be for me because
this is we're really doing stuff
and finally though I mean this is like an hour
into the move it is and this is when
we're sitting down to dinner and like
Esther starts like saying grace to herself
and everyone's like what the fuck and I mean
like this has to be like the 10th time this has happened like this girl's been in the house for a while
right yeah it's not dinner one so she does that and the boy is like why she's such a fucking
freak or whatever he's like freaking freaking out he's calling her the r word a bunch also like he says
fuck like that and vera for mike is not immediately like well now he's got to go see margo martindale
too uh and you know on the sort of the other little girl uh the the daughter sees it max
Max and like she basically is like
Don't say anything or they'll take me away
Oh right
And so like they're in on it together
But like what has she given this kid like a Wothers
I mean they're inseparable
Even during the whole pigeon smash gate thing
The fucking little girl's not telling on her
They're like inseparable and it's kind of like
Why?
Because she's like excited to have a sister
Sure but like at the same point
like tell your mom something
I mean yes but like I think
the movie is saying like she's excited
to have his sister Esther
endears herself to the girl by learning the sign language
reading and so there's stuff
and maybe Max you know Eric Max is
in an arc okay yes
I learned the sign language
in army in Russia
also she's
I learned that in the war in Kosovo
she's smoking a cigarette
she's been fucking live with Danny who is a
piece of shit top to bottom
I would take Esther's side on this one.
I guess that's fair, but
I mean, that's the thing is Danny
doesn't need to be in the movie.
No, definitely not. You could put these characters
together. Esther's out here breaking the legs
of pig monsters.
And like Danny is just like...
Brenda seems like a totally
fine young lady. Look at Alec Baldwin
over here. That's right.
Also, if I'm this other family, I'd be
suing the shit out of this family. I'm living
in this big house. We're fucking swapping
House, pal. Here's the thing, like that now
is the movie. Sorry
Spookatacular Orphan Tale.
Now it's a fucking lawsuit situation
with two feuding sets of parents.
Because I just feel like, you know, oh my God,
somebody hurt my little girl. Who hurt my little girl?
Well, it's actually the daughter of,
you know that family that lives in that castle at the end
of town? I'm like licking
my lips, like, oh yeah, here
it comes. Lawsuit
shitty. It would be like, what is, I'm looking
it up now, what is the movie, it's
Jody Foster and
Christopho? Oh, Carned? Oh, yes.
Isn't that a thing where it's like two feuding parents?
Yes, they're sitting down. Their kids
had a fight. And like they're
trying to adjudicate that. And it will truly
be Carnage.
Yeah, it's a me mover, baby.
So the next
scene
from magazines at the grocery store, she gets a call
from CCH Pounder and it's like,
this is hilarious. Listen, your warranties
almost up on that kid. No, she's
Six months or 60,000 miles, whichever came first.
She's just like, oh, you know, I just wanted to check in, see how things are going.
And she's like, well, actually, and she has, and now, because the fucking little girls are inseparable,
Max is reading the lips of her mother on the phone and, like, reporting back to Esther, what's going on.
Like, oh, they're talking about you.
They talked about the broken leg.
Oh, my God, this had the other thing.
This is also, sorry, Kevin, were you going to say?
Well, no, it's also, Farmeag is kind of like.
starting to think about turning
on this kid because right before the grocery
store scene it's a very awkward
Kate walks in
on Esther playing Chikovsky
perfectly on the piano
just like a fucking Russian
assassin would
oh you're having trouble with
Esther are you well it sounds like
somebody should have bought the three year insurance
plan that I offered when you made
your purchase
what that what's that I can't
you're breaking up Kate
hope things are going well
girls we're going to move the orphanage everybody pack this up
there's a reason why I gave you that very long
receipt there is because it has all the information
all right girls grab your go bags
John Law is coming here
but so no actually CCH Pounder is like
I'll stop by tomorrow so we're sitting around
our enormous palatial estate
CCH Pounder shows up
And she's like, Esther won't let her in for a second, which is like, what are you doing here, you bitch?
You stupid non-bitch.
And she comes in and like, she's like, well, remember what I said?
There was no problems with Esther.
Well, here's a laundry list of them.
This is cross-cut with this fucking Esther playing Russian roulette with this little girl.
She like grabs Maximi's like, we have to fix it.
else they'll still take me away and she's like
well let's go it's like let's find your dad's
keys to the tree house oh that's right because
the dad because he
the kid called her an R word and
swore he's locked up the tree house
oh big old padlock on that fucking
pornography den this is like grounding
in this house right you don't get
your separate house in addition to your regular house
the guest house is closed for business
that tree house is huge oh dude
that's bigger than my apartment now
all right Tommy the cabana is
locked until summer break
No more pool parties.
Yes, I mean, only one skiing trip this year, Tommy.
So she's looking for the keys, but she also finds, she finds this whole ring of keys,
which leads to Peter Sarsgaard's revolver, which, yes, she's playing Russian roulette with this kid.
Dude, great point bringing up the keys, by the way.
The key that opens Peter Sarsgaard's gun safe is a fucking skeleton key from Resident Evil.
Did you get a look at this thing?
It's like, she finds, like, the little girl finds this key chain.
I need to push stash.
statue, soft riddle,
get key, and then
unlock gun. Oh no, I'm
running law on ammunition, but
I already saved the game.
I have to start over.
Didn't you just hate that?
Yeah. Give me more goddamn ammo, Resident Evil.
I just, I only played Resident Evil too.
Yeah, I think. I played one end to.
And it was frustrating as hell. It's a frustrating
game. Very frustrating.
But yeah, I mean, that key chain, it's all
normal keys. And then this huge
skeleton key. And also, like,
I don't know, maybe hide the safe a little bit
under something. Yeah, it's not even
like, there's no, like, it's just
the closet's open and the safe is there.
I will say the neon sign that says safe
was out of taste. Now, Ralphie,
stay out of my secret closet
of mystery. What's that fucking Wigam line?
What is your obsession with my secret
closet of mystery?
Whatever that Wiggin.
It had ride gear in it. That's what I remember.
Did anyone else have the kid in your school? You go over
his house? He's like, hey, you want to see my dad's
gun? And I'm like, man, I really
don't. I didn't have that. I had. Do you want to see my dad's
pornography collection? I wish I met that kid. I knew
there was one kid that was like, yeah, my dad's got a shotgun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That kid's in jail now.
Surprise. We were doing a school project. This kid's like, hey man,
and it was literally on top of like a wardrobe. He just reached up. He's
like, look at this. And I'm like, oh, man. Oh, was a firearm?
Oh, yeah. Of course it was. You had a little.
The Bronx in the 90s.
Always with the firearms.
How about an ice arm?
You know?
I'm with some ice cream.
Yeah.
You want to see my dad's ice cream?
Yes, I would love to.
I'm a little macion.
Actually, it would be a thing where it's like,
oh, this is my dad's ice cream.
He never lets us eat it,
and it's like fucking THC-infused ice cream.
Well, these days.
That's going to be a horror movie any day now
because everyone's just like, oh, my God,
let's Pearl Clutch over the fact that
edibles and things like that exist.
Dude, yeah, that screenplay
written by Maureen Dowd.
People are like
people are going to give all their drugs
to children. That is the
dumbest fucking Halloween scare
tactic. Like, oh, people
are putting edibles out for kids? Are you
fucking crazy? I'm not just giving away
that shit for free. They're acting like kids
are coming home with fucking bottles of Jack
Daniels. Because you know what? That
fucking never happened because no one's
given away any type of... You're not giving away
bottles of liquor. You're not giving away weed to
kids. Exactly. Well, now I got some ideas.
It's Halloween, thank God.
I'm going to your house to trick or treat that.
I have to say, I never went and saw a guy.
I was next to a guy, like, it was me and like six other guys.
And the one guy said, like, we should go over to my house.
My dad's gun safe is open.
What?
That is the thing is that the guy.
I like going to a second location.
This kid just gets a peek and, oh, my dad's gun safe is open.
No, I mean, it was my neighborhood.
Like, he was just there.
This kid's running down the street out of breath.
Guys, it's open.
Good news, Chris.
We don't have to crack the safe.
Like, we're fucking thief.
Well, that's just my point is that the safe is like he says this.
Yeah.
And like, everybody gets excited.
I'm like, I'm going to go home.
But then like another guy, like, saw all the excitement he made.
He's like, you know, my dad has a sword.
Oh, my fuck.
And then another kid just blurt's out.
Shut up.
And then they all go to see the gun.
Take that sword.
Oh, my God.
That's like the little kid version of that scene in Indiana Jones.
My dad's got a scythe.
Oh, shit, nice.
My dad's got some grenades.
My dad's the Grim Reaper, yeah.
So she's packing up.
She's like, we'll play with these later.
And then she grabs like a hammer and loads up this little kid backpack.
And it's very much like the omen, actually.
Doesn't this happen in the omen?
A guy's driving away from the house and the bees get him or whatever?
Well, there's the thing with David Warner.
Yes. Well, he gets impaled by something.
He gets his head cut off.
Yes.
He's the one who's driving in the car.
Oh, right.
It's like wacky races.
And he crashes into the bag of everything.
And a pane of a glass comes flying and cuts his head off.
But so, like, there's this bridge.
It's all icy anyway.
And CCH Pounder is the cool kind of nun that smokes.
Bad ass.
You orphans can have fun here at the orphanage.
Just don't do it outside.
Do where I can see you.
So she's like, she looks away to smoke and then she's like,
we're going to scare her so she never come back.
And she shoves this kid into the street.
I think Esther's going for a two for here.
Yes.
Oh, totally.
Because it's like, well, it's or it's like a one of the other situation.
Or the nun, yeah, the nun goes to jail.
Oh, that could be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a win-win for Esther, it looks like, from all angles.
That's true.
So she pulls her, the CCHPath, she doesn't, she swears, she doesn't hit the kid.
She comes out and, oh, my God, sweetheart, are you okay?
And this girl and this movie starts slamming this woman in the head with a hammer.
You get it once.
You get it once.
And I was like, okay.
Okay, movie.
Like I put my phone down.
I was like, okay, movie, I'm listening.
and then there's a crazy
like they're trying to pull her body
out of the street because a car is coming
Asher's like we have to move party
just like that one operation in Kosovo
You take saw
and saw off head
I'll get acid
Listen if we do not make a message
The other gangs will move in on territory
What? Don't worry about it
Trust me there are other kid gangs
in this snowy town
They're going to take over in seven days.
So they just toss her body down a hill, which is pretty funny.
But then she wakes up, and this is when she starts to really...
Finishes the job.
It is a rough scene.
It's truly something.
Something I did not expect from this movie.
But again, the twist of this movie kind of ruins all of this.
I agree with Eric.
And here is the thing that is a problem is you see her, and I mean, there's like 13 blows.
Yes.
This head has turned into gravy.
And later, they decide they have to show it.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no. It's in one form.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, this would have been a hamburger helper.
It's a mess down there.
So they hide all the murder weapons.
The murder weapon in the treehouse.
And she's like, you will go to jail just like me.
We're both in it together.
Right, because she says because she helped her move the body, she's an accomplice now.
I'd be like, look, I'm a baby.
Because this girl is really young
She's like three or four
She's like and she's a really tiny
And I'd be like no dude
I'm gonna roll over on you
I'm gonna be just fine
But I think Esther's got a good point here
That crime is too
Like not crime
Like laws are too harsh
Like so what if someone moves a body
Or helps with something
Exactly
You're trying to weasel out of something
Aren't you?
I'm just saying
It seems excessive
To go after everyone
I mean I only did it twice
I mean, like, this kid, this young kid, knows enough about the law to distrust it severely and side with Esther.
I mean, I think that's just a systematic problem.
I just want to throw out all law.
That's it.
There you go.
That's it.
So they're walking back from the tree house and the little boy spots them.
And Esther, again, it's another dumbass jump scare in this movie.
She, like, quickly turns her head.
There's a huge audio cue.
And he, like, ducks out of the way.
And we cut to that night, and she sneaks into his room with a fucking knife.
Yeah.
And puts it to his neck and is, like, you know, threatening him or whatever.
And then she moves the neck, like, down to right over his crotch.
And she's like, I'll cut it off if you tell on me.
Before you even know what to do with it.
Oh, right.
I'll cut your picker off.
Your picker.
So they agree to go take her to see Marco Martindale.
and it's a classic, like, she's gaslighting everybody.
Also, Margo Martindale is not a...
She can't be a fucking Vera Formigis therapist and this girl's therapist.
Is that how therapy works?
But if it's family counseling like that, absolutely.
She can't be this girl's therapist if she's such a sucker.
Yes.
I mean, look at this.
Yeah, how can you not see right through this?
Margaret Martindale's like, well, she's a perfectly nice young girl
and hasn't murdered any nuns to hear her tell it.
I mean, she's so articulate for a young lady, too.
dropped a glass of water on the floor in my office
and yelled, fuck!
I can tell you this, she is no master pianist.
That is for 100% sure.
And she's like, well, is it because
you're a disgusting alcoholic?
And she's like, wait, what?
And she's like, well, because you're a gross drunk
and nobody likes you. It's like, you're my therapist.
And she's like, no, no, you're terrible.
And like, and like,
SARS guards giving her a high five, kind of.
You've been drinking today, haven't you?
You drank before he came to this meeting.
They're like teeming up on her.
And she's like, this fucking.
ridiculous. Smells like scotch
to me. Is this where they like
you have to go to rehab? No, not yet.
No, that's later. Oh my God. That's even
fucking crazy. And like, so she
comes back and like they're all pissed off
at each other because he's like, well, I
guess I was right. She's like, you're a
fucking asshole. God damn it, Peter
Sarsgaard, just keep your mouth shut.
And she's like, I'm never going back to the
therapist again. He's like, well, that's weird.
I'm like, of course not. Like, the trust is
totally gone in that scenario.
Also, she was bullying me about my
alcoholism. She's just a moron. She believed the little fucking con artist.
The nun is proven to go missing. This is the other nun that keeps calling. Oh, right,
they get a phone call from the nunnery. Like, hey, CCH Pounder left like three days ago.
Our best salesman is missing. We've got a lot of units we need to move this month. We can't do
without our employee of the year award winners. We can only have so many in the kill shelf.
Right here.
are the Glengarry Orphans.
But I don't give these to you.
If I give them to you, I'm throwing them away.
First, first prize, you go to heaven.
Second prize, set of sake knives.
Third prize, you fired.
A, B, C. Adoption B. Closer.
Just cuts to CCH Pounder in the Chinese restaurant
across the street.
It's raining outside.
eating alone
I went into that adoption agency
and I asked
I said get me something from the sideboard
I didn't even know there was a sideboard in the house
sister machine
Levine
yes
yeah so the cops come to the house
like just you know not suspecting
the parents or anything like that just doing some
routine questions and shit
and then it's like she
the cop leaves
and then it's like wow that was close
and you hear this like click click click
and it's like upstairs
Esther's like sitting in her room
looking at a picture she's
drawn flicking a black light on
and all right and it's like sinister
drawings on this one little painting
oh no no no she's just high
she's really high
it was working for me
the black light will be a window into her madness
just why even bother
I know I guess
That was like one element too many.
Big time, because it's just like, I don't know how this kid,
I mean, I know this kid's 33 years old.
Yeah.
How did they, how does black likes work?
What kind of paint is this?
Special ink too.
Yeah, like, I feel like this is a lot.
Yeah, sure, but like you're posing as a 13 year old girl.
Right.
Where are you getting this shit?
It's a good point.
No, it's a good point.
I mean, because also there's other thing,
her plan is really short-sighted.
At some point, moving,
on a little quicker, Peter Starr's
like, oh, let's go to the dentist, I got to take you
to the dentist, she's like, we cannot
go dentist, I have tummy ache.
And we find out later, when she, like, full-on
orphans out, she removes, like, these fake
teeth, she's, like, rotten teeth underneath.
And I'm like, how long is that going to last?
Like, at some point, people are going to figure this
out. Yeah. How old does 33,
how old does this movie think 33 is?
Dude, this is fucking weird. Russian
33 is different from USA 33,
and Estonian 33, don't even add.
Catching up, dude, as a country.
I'll take that much.
But this movie's 10 years old, by the way.
Take a look at the big book of Orphan Smiles.
But then also, like, even if you go to the doctor, the doctor is going to look, you know, you get any kind of physical, like, excuse me, are you 33 with a hormone problem?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that's why I didn't, like, the fucking dentures thing, I was laughing my tits off.
But when she didn't want to go to the dentist, I was like, oh, well, naturally, because the dentist.
will look and be like, say, you
surprisingly don't have any baby
teeth, little girl. You have the liver of a 40-year-old.
Why is the dentist looking at that?
Some teeth are in the liver, you see.
I like to go above me on in my job.
Kidney dentata. I'm ambitious.
Her and the little brother are kind of sniping
at each other at this point a little bit back
and forth, right?
Oh, no, this is a part when, no, she has a nice moment
She plays hockey with Peter Sarsgaard
And she's like
Oh you know what
I want to do something nice for a mommy
To make her like me again
And he's like well I think that's a great idea sweetheart
It's like I have idea
So she cuts all the flowers
That's on the grave
It's like here mommy here is present
And she's like you fucking cry
She starts screaming at her
Loses it
It's all the Vera Formiga acting you want
She's crying she's upset
But again though like dude
I know I just watched it for the first time last night
But if I'm at the theater in 2009
And I'm going to see this eerie kid movie
Get this grief-stricken shit out of here
Sure
I keep it eerie
Don't make it sad
I think it's fine as long as you don't give as much time
As you do
Mommy I picked you flowers
Is what she says
Now I saw this like when it came out
But not in the theater
Like at home viewing
Were you guys there?
because we were living together
Steven is this a subway DVD situation
I don't know I just know I feel like we watched it
maybe I think I didn't see it because it's the first time I
watched it last year because my wife's been talking about
since we've been dating
I definitely saw it like 10 years ago
yeah and
but not in the theater this is like a fucking mystery
now I've done rather my wife saw it in the theater
at 42nd Street on like opening
weekend and she said it was the most
the most raucous theater experience
They turned on it?
No, they were having a blast, like screaming and hooting and hollering.
Oh, that's cool.
But not like scared of.
No, no, no, really.
They were laughing out loud.
Oh, my God, it's like they were laughing at it.
Yeah, that's what I meant by turned on it.
Esther's coming out of the screen at me.
It's scary.
But to be fair, also, I had people hootin and hollering at my hereditary screening.
Yes.
Like, not even at the parts that are kind of funny.
Like, just all throughout it.
The decapitation, real fucking laugh, right?
Yeah, I actually, there were a few.
According to my audience, Uncut
Gems was a laugh right.
Isn't it so great to be so fucking jaded?
You just laugh at fucking horrendous shit
like that girl being decapitated.
It's so cool. It's so cool.
And to let everyone else know and ruin their experience
by performatively laughing.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Because it's a, I mean,
wherever I go, it's about me.
Oh, definitely. I'm breaking out the Max
Katie in all those World War II dramas.
So, whatever.
She puts her fucking arm in a vice
Because it's like
Vera for me kind of grabs her a little bit
Like what are you doing blah blah blah
And it's like now I'll get back at her with
Next part of escalation
And she like goes into the garage or whatever
There's this clamps it around
It's a vice I don't understand what Peter
Sars Garden is doing
You know what I grew up with one of these
I never used it to break my arm
Nice well that's good
It's just you just to hold stuff in place
While you saw shit I guess
I don't really...
Maybe they don't address it in the movie.
He appears to be an architect or something,
but maybe he also just built this house with his hands.
Oh, shit, that's why it's all wrong.
Welcome to your new master bedroom.
Well, that's the thing is that every idiot dad has like a room
where he's got wood and all the tools there.
It doesn't mean he uses any of this shit ever.
Man out of carpet, we had to paint the dirt.
I see.
Yeah, she puts a little arm in this,
and just starts turning it till it fucking like pops it's wild man and then she like screams
for her father and he's like what oh my goodness also like you got to get your story straight
if you're taking a little girl to the er with a fucking broken arm yeah that was a weird
iron clad yeah we should say also while this is all going down Vera is out at the liquor store
yeah and she's but and here's the thing she's buying two bottles of wine whoopty do right
she's up at the counter and she's like
I'm having guests for dinner
yeah and I'm like here's the thing
people who run liquor stores
and liquor purveyors of all kinds
they fucking built this country
and they don't judge you for anything
that guy at the liquor store doesn't give a shit
when you're buying two bottles of wine for
and then also looking at me and I'm like
sometimes I buy like four bottles of wine
at the same time you never know
well it's also like and I'm sure there's
severe well she's a recovering alcohol
oh right
Hey, I am participating in dry January.
There you go.
Or did.
It's over with.
I hope I made it at the time this aired.
Yeah, no, Andrew's now dead from alcoholism.
But I need it.
I'm sure there's wine alcoholics.
Oh, sure.
Of course.
But this is a good step it up a notch lady.
She's got a fucking crazy killing kid here.
Totally.
Get the brown stuff going.
Exactly.
But no, she, and it's amazing too.
So she brings it home.
She's like, you know, she's,
devastated about this whole situation
and she like pours herself a glass
too and I'm like I don't know I wouldn't be
and you know she's obviously trying not to do it
she wants up not doing it obviously she
pours it out good on her she
but also pretty expensive wine I guess
if it's been a year you want to
you want the good stuff you want the good stuff you want that's
she listened to Eric her alcoholic coach
who said go beggar go better
better better red wine
better everything Johnny Walker blue and that's it
no red or black on my fucking watch
She pours the whole bottle down the drain and...
We see her do that?
Yes, we do.
Okay, I missed that.
So when she was saying it later, I was like, you're a fucking liar.
Because she simply doesn't drink and then blah, blah, blah.
The next day, you know, so I just go, it's like, well, you broke our daughter's arm, you jerk.
And here's our therapist to talk to you about it.
You're in trouble, not just with me, but with our therapist.
You met this girl a week ago.
Exactly.
My daughter.
Yeah.
Honey,
Honey, show me your metal arms.
It's okay.
You got metal arms.
You clearly did because, I mean, you crushed the bone.
I mean, I don't know how you can do it.
We got another mutant.
Metal arm lady.
This is also right around here is where,
I think this happens right before the showdown with Margot,
Martindale.
Esther puts the fucking car in neutral.
Oh, that's what starts it.
Yeah.
And the little girl, yeah,
because like the little girl's in the car still
and it fucking rolls down a hill.
And it does just crash into his,
snowbank but then it's like they come home from that
and he's like so
you got a call from the school today
had a little parking lot mishap
you get drunk
and that's when yeah it's like you know what
you go to rehab or I walk
I give you a week to go to rehab
or else me are two kids
and this Russian spy
are getting out of this weird house
we're going to be helping someone move a chair
if you know what I mean
you do this I'm going to take
Danny, I'm going to take Max, I'm going to take Esther and her Ouija board, and we are getting
out of here. Actually, yeah, I also think just in looking at the poster for this movie 10 years
ago, I expected at the time a Ouija board to be involved in some way. Well, there's another
haunted kid movie coming out right now with what's her face from Halt and Catch Fire and Finn
Wolfhard. The Turning. Oh, McKenzie Davis. Yes. I just saw the trailer for today for the first
time. It doesn't look very good. It's like an updated
turning of the screw.
No, this seems to be ghosts involved.
Oh, really? Yeah. Ghosts and go. Because I got the invite
for like a trade screening and it mentioned something
about like a modern take on the Poe classic.
Oh, I guess. I mean, but this is definitely, at least
the trailer has got some ghost and goblins. Oh, really?
Yeah. It's in Wolfheart, you say.
It's coming out soon. Yeah. But more
importantly, McKenzie Davis, you say. Yeah.
Well, there was one reason I saw a Terminator Dark Fate, so there might be
One reason I see this one.
Did it take the Boy 2 slot?
Oh, maybe it did because the boy two's coming out fairly soon.
Oh, is it?
Because I got the invite for that too.
I've had my heart broken too many times now, Andrew.
I don't want to.
I will say that at the last time when they kept bumping it,
there were no invites for trades.
So now there is an invite.
They got the date lock.
They are desperately trying to get people to book this movie in their theaters.
So that's right.
So like the boy goes, not the boy.
not Chris Cabin's not not Brahms no Danny goes up to Max he's like listen you have to tell
me what's been going on Esther did somebody in the car didn't she she was the one and because
we're in trouble and she's like if if I tell you she's gonna kill everybody well because right
because the little girl Max is spying on the Margo Martindale intervention and Esther just
comes up to her and goes I'll shoot mommy if you tell yeah nice so yeah but
But this is another Esther singing in the bathtub situation.
Yeah.
And he uses the opportunity to come in and have a one-on-one.
And he's like, and she tells him what's going on.
And she says that there's evidence in the tree house.
And like Peter starts going to go and I'm going to work.
And I'm going to leave my mother to help you watch the kids, okay?
Because it's too much of a fucking bird and you drunk.
And like, okay, asshole.
So he leaves and his dumb mother is there.
Because also, like, would someone watch the kids?
Because what you call it?
Vera Vermeiger is trying to figure out the third act.
She's calling all sorts of orphanages overseas.
Right, yeah.
Because she finds, what is the deal?
She opens the Bible again.
And there's like multiple pictures of dudes.
The Sarn Institute.
Yeah, how does she come across the Sarn Institute?
It's just a pamphlet or something.
That's where the Bible came from.
It's like a stamp there.
Oh, okay, yeah.
She Googles it.
She bings it.
And she finds out.
and she calls it's like
it turns out to be a hospital
for the mentally
or the criminally insane
it's Arkham in Estonia
it's kind of great because
the woman who picks up the phone
doesn't speak English
and she goes and gets this other dude
and you know the guy's like
oh we have no record of her
and she's like
how could that happen
she was adopted from you
like why don't you have a record
of the adoption and he's like
you must be mistaken
Sarn Institute is not
a place for adopting children
It is home for the criminally insane.
Yes, we have a reptile, a crocodile man, we have penguin man, we have clown man.
Man obsessed with riddles?
Three face.
Hold on, hold on.
Can she control plants?
Okay, if not no, it's not her.
I was thinking of someone else.
Maybe have same haircut.
Does she have leather cat outfits?
Obsessed with clocks or eggs or large.
big hits.
Going to sound weird, but calendars?
Is she very into calendars?
Is she made of clay?
Listen, because honestly, I cannot keep track of all the people come in, they come out, they
escape.
Oh, maybe, oh, no, excuse me, I was thinking of a man, bat.
Any time, did she break the back of a bat child?
Any canisters of fear gas underneath her bed?
wearing stupid hat
do we get them all
that was not making up
oh my god so anyway this was
this is a huge problem
like Esther's sloppy here yes
why you're hanging out with this fucking
Bible like you know what just get an American
Bible exactly yeah
or at least cross out
the name on the back
and she's sloppy here too because she's like
the fucking shit is hitting the fan
she's about to get
found out by the kid and like you got to kill this you can kill this kid but you got to do it
better than this yeah slop city dude the kid walks into this fucking uh into the tree house he
opens the door or open the false floor and nothing is there and then esther comes through a doorway
which is in this tree house because there are other rooms in the tree house another huge laugh
moment for me i was like what is this door well that's the master bedroom leave it the fuck alone
The kid's got to sleep
And she's like
Oh, you have been snooping
And she starts like
She's like
I have to burn the evidence
And she's got a thing of gasoline
And she should fucking dowsing this kid too
Dude it's wild
She sets this thing on fire
It's great
Great CGI blaze
She locks him in too
Again much like a Batman villain
Oh wait
Wait
Was this little girl
Required to have body
At a very cold temperature
At all time
No
Oh, okay, I'm thinking of wrong little girl.
Oh, God, that take out my enemy.
Little freeze.
And, yeah, the kid kind of escapes.
He goes up to the roof.
Yeah.
Dude, a tree house with a roof deck.
Hot, damn, these people are loaded.
And he has to, like, jump off, and he's holding on to part of the structure.
And I guess it's high up enough that when he falls, it's just, like, lights out.
Yeah.
This was a little suspect.
Like, come on, you already have a bunch of bad CGI in this.
this movie. I want to see this kid
drop from a height. It's not
believable that he'd have this much injury.
Well, Esther keeps on yelling at him.
Like, land on head. Land on head.
Best way to land.
When the kid is on the roof, by the way, there is
some laughably terrible green screen
because it's like the fake fire and the fake
smoke and it's just this kid in front of the
green screen being scared. Yes,
your skull is biggest bone in body.
It is best to land on it.
Nothing important
up there. Nothing at all.
And the mother is reading a fucking Joyce Carole's
The grandmother's just reading
Joyce Carol Oates books, not give it his shit.
Yeah, dude, this is like the Homer's getting pretty bad out there.
They're fine.
Maybe she's drunk too.
Maybe she should go to rehab as well.
Farminga, like, notices that the things on fire, she runs out.
We're in the hospital.
The kids got, we're told, a serious neck injury.
And it's lucky to be alive.
She has now emailed the Snarn-Sn-Sn-N-N-N-N institute.
The Snuffil-Officus Institute.
The photo of this kid.
Oh, right, right, right.
Which will come back into play later.
They call her when they're at the hospital.
Right.
But did you guys catch this?
I don't know how you would have missed it.
But like there's the scene where Esther like asked the grandmother for, first of all, it's 2009.
She wants a dollar for this soda.
How about at least 175?
I have $10 for cigarette machine.
I don't know.
It's a nowhere.
Condom machine broken.
They fuck.
I mean, this is nowhere Toronto.
I don't know.
Prices might be down.
That's true.
But she's like, can I have dollar for soda machines?
She's like, well, your mommy wants you right where she wants you.
And it's like, here's a dollar angel.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Yeah, this lady's fucking clueless.
But no, the thing I'm talking about, the shot of Esther going to get the soda,
the camera comes around the corner and it is just Pepsi as far as the eye could see.
Holy moly.
Sometimes, you know, even in a haunted kid movie, you can still move some Pepsi.
There are two vending machines next to each.
other, though. It was a bit overkill.
I just think it's out of taste to actually
have her drink the Pepsi and then have her be
normal and happy. I thought that
was a little weird choice. Yeah, what was
it? Kendall Jenner, Hanser,
the Pepsi. And then she's like,
you have warmed my hat.
I will now be tolerant
and innocent. You have brought
upon world peace thanks to a Pepsi.
Well, the choice
of a new generation, end of
movie.
She uses this whole
thing, because also like Vera Farminga
and Peter Stras got are like fighting right here
and Esther uses his opportunity
to go fucking smother this kid in his own
bed with a pillow. Oh, pretty cool.
And like it gets there because they
she removes, you hear the
B, yeah, yeah, flatline.
Flatline and the kids got like lifeless eyes.
You know what? This is where the movie gets a
titch toothless for my taste.
Because this kid survives this, but I'm like,
dude, as far as movie language is
concerned, this kid is fucking dead.
Thanks for the take back.
Well, now he's a zombie, right?
Because now all the doctors come in and they revive him.
So she, Farmiga, flips out right here and runs up and Esther's coming around the corner with the soda.
And she fucking smacks this kid like it's an NBC remake of Australian hit drama.
Speaking of that remake, Peter Sarsgaard was a star of it.
Oh, was he the one slapping?
No, he was in the house when his kid got slapped.
Oh, his kid was the slap.
Yeah. Who was the slapper? I believe it was Zachary Quinto. Oh. You slap my kid. You should go to rehab. You're drunk. I mean, it's the same character. It's just like fucking, no, no. Is that show them like. Awesome, by the way. Just seeing Esther get smacked in the face was nice. It was pretty great. I laughed anyway. Is that show like also like that movie Carnage? Like, is it parents trying to settle it? Or does it get?
heightened. It gets heightened in a lot of weird ways. Is there a car chase? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Is there an Estonian orphan? No, it's just, guys, when a child is slapped in a house that you're
vaguely at at a party, it can ruin so many lives. Yeah. It could just ruin. Oh, it's a shockwaves
kind of thing? Yes, it is, like different people. Domino effect. Yeah, exactly. Suddenly, like,
eventually, like, that negative vibe you put in the world eventually gets to someone at NORAD who then
sends off a nuclear weapon because they had
a bad day. Yeah. It's just
the conversation, you know, in these
households where one person
saying, yeah, fucking thank God I hate that
kid. That's fantastic.
I would love to hit a kid and then the other person
saying, no, that's not good.
And that's what happens in every household in America
is they all have the discussion.
Hey, man, did I miss a guy hit the kid or what?
Oh, fuck, I was in the bathroom.
I said good on him. A kid sucked.
So she's like drinking.
her life away here
because she
after slapping the kid
they like they fucking put her down
like she's a fucking T-Rex
they put it they pump her full of fucking
oh right she's in the hospital
oh that's right that's right that's right
Shoot her!
Clever drunk
they really do
and like she wakes up like in a bed
and it's some
the doctor from Estonia is calling
it's like are you with Esther right now
And it's like, well, no.
She's like, get out of the house.
Run from the house immediately.
Oh, right.
Yeah, this dude added nowhere.
But this guy comes right after the biggest scene in the movie.
So, like, she's resting, Sarsgaard's like, all right, I'll just take.
Because she's still in the hospital.
Yes, she's resting in the hospital.
And the kid is saved somehow, the boy.
And I don't know where the little girl is at this point.
She comes with.
She comes with.
Okay, because then Sarsgars.
Which she should totally go to the grandmother's both.
Everywhere's going to the grandmother.
The grandmother, presumably.
has a house somewhere, she should go there.
Yes. So Peter Sarsgaard is sleeping on
the couch and he wakes up like, what's going
on? And here is this girl.
No, he drinks his life away. That's what happens.
Oh, he gets drunk. He comes home.
This is Peter Sarsgaard stars and smoking
in your house because it's like
it's been a bad couple of weeks ever since
we got this orphan. He's like drinking.
He drinks a whole bottle of wine in like
10 minutes. He's smoking cigarettes
in the middle of the house. And we haven't
seen him smoke before. Yes, we have
because he hilariously just lights us
cigarette in the middle of the playground.
Oh, does he?
Yes.
That's why he...
That just seemed too naturalistic to me that I didn't even notice.
That's why he doesn't see Esther push that girl off the castle.
Oh, okay.
Because he's like hiding over in the corner of the playground smoking.
She should go to rehab for smoking.
She'll lock him away.
But so he passes out drunk and Esther gets all dressed up in one of your...
From Hagar's dress, she cuts it to fit her.
Yeah, she puts a bunch of makeup on.
She changes her hair out of the pigtails.
Yeah.
She starts hitting on him.
She's aggressively trying to fuck it.
She says, I love you, I really love you.
And then we have a drunk vision of Peter Sarage goes like, what's going on?
It's so fucking ridiculous.
The B-O-V.
It's just like, whoa.
Yeah, like his vision's like out of focus.
I was like, what does this movie think happen?
That's a bottle wine.
I used to do this podcast when I've drinking a bottle wine.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, this is more drugged cam.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, that's what it should be, but he's just like.
Right, she should like slip in something in his drink.
Like, I've prepared the idol can powder.
And then she goes, let me take care of you.
And he like starts getting weirded out.
But then he like starts talking to her.
And he's like, it's just been so hard and everything's falling apart.
I love that he's like confiding in this little girl that is trying to have sex with him.
This is the time the damn breaks for poor Peter fucking SARS guard.
And he's got no, I mean, she says, she whispers, let me take care of you.
He does nothing.
He starts crying.
And then she's like,
no, you're a good dad.
And the handsome man.
And I think,
now here's the thing.
I rewound this.
Yeah, there is.
Is there a dick grab here?
There is.
No, there is.
It's an implied.
Well, not the actress,
again, the actress who was like 13 when this was filmed,
also way too uncomfortable just in any event.
Sure.
But it's like, it's, it's, she doesn't do it,
but the movie implies it because he kind of like looks down
of his lap it's a thigh grab and you're supposed to assume that the dick is on the thigh yeah
it's like she pushes it forward a little bit i think it's it's a little it's a trickery it's the magic
of the movies yeah he just is like whoa whoa whoa this is uncomfortable yeah he's like this is
you know what esther i can't do it esther i just can't do it you're going back to the orphanage
tomorrow did we did everybody read the trivia that this apparently this scene was much longer and
stuff was happening.
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
It just is...
Not on the set, Eric.
It just is more graphic in the script.
It was supposed to be like...
It went to place that this movie does not.
Thank God for that.
Yeah.
You'd be almost funny if it did
because then at the end of you,
oh, thank God for the twist.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm good.
No, I'm good.
Because the twist happens right after that.
So if you switched it...
Yes, yeah, that's right.
And then had that scene, you could have it kind of go.
The snorn...
snar. I'm saying it wrong.
Snarb. Snarv. The Smog Institute.
The one dude says like, you know, when she tried to seduce the last parental figure
and then it didn't go, it didn't happen. So she killed them and torched the house.
Yeah. So that's what's going to happen. That would be more interesting if we had seen like
her take one of the pictures from the Bible and say like, oh, I loved you so much.
Yeah. Like it gives you a little bit more.
more of her side of the thing, and that would be a little bit more interesting.
Well, that's the thing is, like, you don't really know, like, this doctor gives you all
this information at the end about how, like, she's just this fucking criminal mastermind or
whatever, but it's like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
Like, either she's just, like, this instinctual, like, killing kind of thing, or maybe she's, like,
a Russian KGB asset or whatever, or I don't know, like, she's, she's, like, capable of gaslighting.
But it's, like, all of them at the same time, and it's like, what are you doing?
She's, like, a Highlander, you know?
Like, she has to, every few years or months, she has to, yeah, she has to leave that life.
And you can't really, as a, if you're hiding as a child, you can't really leave the trace to that past.
Can she one day become the high father?
Because she's just killing the fathers, too, because they say no to her.
I mean, I guess she's waiting for the one guy that sounds cool, man.
She should get adopted by that, uh, that dude that was un-lost for a little bit.
I don't know that guy is.
Oh, we've talked about this guy.
Doug something or other.
Oh, oh, yes, of course.
Who married like a fucking 16-year-old girl?
Doug Hutchinson.
Wait, Jeffrey Epstein was on loss?
That's the island that they were crashed at.
That was the big mystery.
Smoke monster on that island.
You're rich enough, you can have a smoke monster.
This is an island's called Little St. James.
Hey, Chelsea, we got to go back, baby.
We got to go back.
Somehow, also Dominic Monaghan is just still in it.
Guys.
Where are we?
So, oh, this is the blacklight shit.
He goes into her room.
Yeah.
And he's looking at the paintings or whatever.
And then, like, he flips.
The black light is in the fish tank.
So he, like, kind of opens the casing of the fish tank.
And, dude, these paintings turn into a horror show.
It's a horror show and a pornography show.
Because it's, like, all these bloody people, like, Vera Vermigua
with a head cut off and all this stuff.
And there's, like, Peter Starzgard fucking this, like, adult version of Esther.
Yeah, it's, and you know what, Peter Sars Guard, not a great appropriate level reaction.
Yeah, you should be throwing up.
He just kind of walks out like, okay.
It freaked out.
I think he was a little flattered by the vizis.
It's a nice six-pack, okay.
Wow, this is what it would look like if I was a model for romance novels.
Wish I was that in doubt.
Damn.
Damn.
She cuts the power to the house.
Yes.
If you're from, I guess, speeding home in the snow.
Doing more bad driving.
Which, like, she's, like, almost hitting all of these cars and shit.
And it's like, guys, I know she's not getting in a car accident.
Like, she's going to get to the house to have this showdown.
Yeah.
Just let her get there.
She's going to have a car accident.
And this movie's going to take another fucking nap.
But, I mean, the payoff would be better if she was an actual eerie kid.
But nonetheless, Peter Zarsgaard getting fucking stabbed to death is not too shabby.
She stabs him in the back and goes, ow!
And then he falls down.
it's kind of ridiculous it's insane he falls down and again like i know she's she's 33 years old
but he's much bigger than her and she's like i stab you i stab you like kick this kid in the
face this was the part where i was like is she a kgb asset yeah because she like runs it's like a
it's like a i don't even like she runs by him like ha like a fucking ninja and just leaves this
knife in his back he also seemingly wants to die yeah he's just like okay
I'm being stabbed now.
Oh, there's another one.
Oh, that's pointy.
No fight at all.
You've got elbows, dude.
Use them elbows.
Maxine walks into the scene and says,
no, don't stop her.
She's misunderstood.
Oh, God, she's so misunderstood.
We can't ever strike a child.
Just let her get her aggression out on my chest with that butcher knife.
She's your sister.
You don't forget.
I can have maybe, like, I have five more holes in my chest, so just let her do her thing.
I forgive you.
You tell, make sure your mother knows to me.
You're not a bad person.
I'm sorry, I failed you.
I deserve this.
I mean, he really does.
I mean, you got to clap in the theater when that happens.
And Max sees it.
By the way, that's a wrap.
on max everybody like yeah she a has assisted killed a nun at this point yep all this stuff
she was in this near car accident played a rousing round of russian roulette and now she saw
her father stab to death i mean like it's over for back dude we're ready for orphan two
colon max ship her to estonia see if the sard institute's got another bed for max also by the way
not enough body count in this movie definitely not you could use
one, I think at least one more. At least one more.
Like, get like a... The fucking grandmother
should have got it. A babysitter
would be a natural target.
Absolutely. Yes, you want to
put the Max in our institute. Let me
ask you something. Does she have an umbrella
that makes her go
up in the air?
Is she rich?
Or like, fuck with the grandma's
pills or something. Oh, totally.
That's the move.
I think what you're asking, Eric, is
because the kid, the boy needed to die.
If the kid died, a better movie, for sure.
Definitely.
And I feel, because like the kid, first of all,
the kid is, the son is not seen again for the rest of the movie.
Yes, he's ostensibly dead.
And the only thing they mentioned about like reviving him or whatever is all in dialogue.
Yeah.
I think it's a thing where they fucking got cold feet and it was like,
eh, better not kill that kid.
That's test audience.
I smell test audience all over this.
I can't believe it killed a little boy.
I love that little boy.
I saw him at the Star Trek.
trailer you can't kill kirk that's little kirk and i know little kirk little kirk on a bc oh jeez
well wait is it the same year yeah 2009 yeah so people are like no little kirk that's little kirk
you leave little kirk alone uh so now we have cat and mouse in the house sure we're going all around
there's a lot of fun stuff in the bathroom she's got the gun oh oh yeah if her by a shot in the arm
Like it's fucking the end of lethal weapon.
It's just a flesh wound.
It just graced me.
Yeah.
And she knows how to heal herself too.
It's a little much for this piano teacher.
Man, again, this is another, like, I'm sorry.
These pseudo-horror family drama things, like, Hereditary does it better, but like this is a bad version of how to do this.
Because, like, she walks into the house and she sees Peter Sarsigar dead.
We're taking two minutes of her just crying on the floor.
I know.
You know?
And it's like, no, like, if this is a heart.
movie it should be like ah
but no time to grieve now
ugh but
stupid there's like
she takes uh max runs into
the greenhouse because the fucking house is a greenhouse
and for my guess on the
outside uh like a top of the
greenhouse how does she get on the roof does anybody
remember she's in the bathroom and like
um uh the little
Esther's coming so she hides out on the
whatever walkway oh I see and she
locks the window so she's stuck out of the house
oh gotcha uh and she hears
Max breaks something in the greenhouse, there's a showdown in the greenhouse, there's, this girl's got a gun, and she starts firing up with the mother a little bit, and she jumps, Formiga jumps down and lands on her, crushes this girl like a grape.
And this is when I'm, you got to break this girl's knack, you got to suffocate her, this woman, this, A, you know she's a 33-year-old woman, B, she killed your husband.
And maybe killed your son.
Here's an excuse, though.
Uh-huh.
The kid takes off the makeup and looks like the old lady from The Shining.
Yes.
I don't know what is going on with this age makeup thing.
33-year-old woman.
Well, this is what 33 looks like.
Oh, I see.
From Hollywood terms, actually, that's correct.
Estonian 33.
Well, she takes her teeth out.
She got these black monster teeth.
And yeah, I mean, like, but again, like, you've got to start, like, this is when you start to be like, you know what?
You know what it's time for?
A CCH pounding.
And she starts punching her face.
This is for CCH Pounder.
Do you think CCH Pounder says that?
Like if she's ever had to be in a situation where she needs to kick some ass.
And she's like, now you're in for a CCH pounding.
I think she does it when she's like making chicken cutlets and she's tenderizing the chicken.
Yeah, that's much more.
All right, chicken.
I don't like you and you don't like me.
Here's my mallet.
It's time for a culinary C-C-H-pounding.
So we're at the end of the movie.
Yes.
And, of course, we've come back to Death Pond.
Yes, you know.
And, like, you want to dig a dip in the Death Pond?
You don't want to go skinny dipping in the Death Pond.
You don't skip stones here.
You won't believe.
What's at the bottom?
Oh, Death Pond.
It's not just fish floating around in the Deth Pond.
Death Pond.
The plot is also murky.
I would still see that movie.
Death Pond, that's the tagline.
The plot is as murky as the death pond.
I guess I'll see it.
Or that would be someone's snarky review.
That's like the headline.
Yeah, so the two girls go through the ice, Vera Farminga.
Well, not before the tiniest, I mean, again, Max is the,
like three and a half years old.
Yes.
She's barely walking.
She picks up this revolver.
Oh, yes.
And she's like, it's like, it's like the end of like the clone movie.
She doesn't know which one to shoot kind of the thing.
And she fires at Esther because Esther, again, like Esther has Vera Farmerga, who's like
10 feet tall comparatively down and like is trying to stab right.
She's like, no, stop.
Like, no, again, close your hands.
Yes.
And start going for it.
Totally.
Punch the skin in the face.
33 year old.
Well, and this girl's got to be launched after that, like a Joe Namath in the football, like just fucking in the air.
And, but Esther actually, Max hits the ice and it breaks.
Yeah.
And then they go under and there's a lot of like going under business.
She's like stabbing her underwater, which is kind of funny.
And she kicks her in the, she kicks her down here under the water.
Yes.
And she climbs out.
And it's like, please just let this movie be over with.
No way, man.
Because I need this.
One more scare is she comes back up from the water and grabs her
and Beer of Farmingo with this fucking Timberland bootkick.
Well, she's like, Mommy, don't let me die.
And she's like, I'm not your fucking mommy!
And she fucking kicks this kid in the head.
And it's like, it's fucking Zach Snyder's slow motion.
You see your jaw like, it's fucking hilarious.
Yeah, it's not bad.
I mean, it's not good, but it's not bad.
The CG, right?
The jaws, like...
Yeah.
And then she just goes all the way under her.
All the way under.
And then actually, the movie kind of just ends right here, which is nice.
I did not expect this.
I was totally anticipating like a six months later.
No, no, no, no.
Max and...
And Bosco, whatever those other kids was the boy's name.
Danny.
Danny, yeah.
And her, like, you know, starting a new life or whatever.
No, they're ruined.
They're all ruined.
Again, we say this on this show often, like, this family needs to break up.
Like, this is the end.
This family's canceled.
You know what?
We had a good run.
We got fucking nine seasons in.
Time to call it.
That's more than the slap got, right?
It's actually true.
Give the kids to the grandmother.
You go off on your own.
Can I share with you,
since this has done,
two pieces of trivia about the girl
drowning to the bottom of Death Pond?
Absolutely.
So here's two.
Death Pond.
And this should tell you,
there's an edge to some of this trivia
on this page.
The scene of which Esther sinks to the bottom
of the pond was shot to mimic the scene
of Leonardo DiCaprio's body
floating to the bottom of the ocean in Titanic.
Leonardo DeCaprio was a
producer on this film. Well, that's dumb as shit.
I would like to see the receipts about
like, well, they shot it with that in mind.
I'm pretty sure they shot it with somebody
dying in a pond in mind.
It would be cool if they had the Titanic music
for it, though.
Slein Dion. Here's the double.
There of Formiga's character in this film
is named Kate. Leonardo DiCapro,
one of the producer of his film, known
for having start alongside Kate
Winslet in Titanic. That's right.
That's not true. Yes. No, it's not trivia. It's just
people. Making a connection
with names or actors being in the same things, like,
shut your mouth. It's not like Kate is a rare
name. Yeah, it's pretty rare.
I only know 75,000 of them.
Wow. I know 75,000 of Cates.
Wow. Ladies, man.
He's a Katie's man.
there you go thank you
would anybody recommend this movie
obviously Steve
yes it's a hard recommend for me
like I said sucker for an evil kid movie
this movie's got teeth to it
we are killing people yes like Eric I would have
maybe one or two more kills but I'm happy
with what I got I think this is a
it's a it's I saw this movie twice
in like seven months
you want to space those out a bit better
maybe once is fine
but yeah it's a fun one yeah I think I
hadn't seen this in like four years
and that's a great amount.
That's a perfect amount.
Four years is a fine amount.
I like this movie quite a thing.
Every presidential election.
Rather than watching the numbers come in, watch this.
Better idea.
I really like this movie.
I think it's creepy.
I think, again, yeah, you need...
I smelled a lot of test audience, like, let's fix this.
Let's not make adoption seems so awful.
We have to add in a couple scenes here.
Yeah. Like all that stuff. I can see it adding up some numbers where this maybe originally was a good amount of time. And then they had to add in all that stuff. But still, I didn't feel bored. I was there with it most of the time. Well, I did feel a little bored because I don't think it has any business being over two hours long. And I also feel like the atmosphericness of it is just so grim, dark. Yeah. And it's just dreary. And I just, it's a gnaw for me, dogs.
Oh, wow. Okay.
It's a no for me, too.
It was a fucking slog.
Like, the end of it is bonkers.
It's totally bonkers.
I'll say, like, rent it and then just fast forward to the last 25 minutes because it takes its fucking time.
Find a best of on YouTube.
Yeah.
If you want a fucking totally rocking, eerie killer kid movie, bloody birthday.
Oh, yeah.
Which is totally on Shutter as far as the last time I was looking at the shutter platform.
Wasn't that a side of a sleaze?
A hundred years ago, we talked about it, yeah.
So that's that.
I would recommend bloody birthday.
This is, I mean, it's fine.
There are worse.
Yeah, sure.
Weird kid movies or whatever, but yeah, I don't know.
It's competently made.
It's just so overstuffed, in my opinion.
Yeah.
And that is orphan or the orphan.
I can't even tell which one.
Is there a thought there?
It's just orphan.
Okay, yeah, that is orphan.
It's cleaner.
That was a test audience.
Like, too.
Justin Timberlick watches me.
Just call it Orphan.
From 2009, directed by Huame Colette, Sarah.
But we hate movies rolls on.
As always, next week, Steve Sadek, what jam are we discussing?
We got a guest in the studio next week, you guys.
Angelica Jade Bastien, a vulture comes back as we talk about cruel intentions.
Oh, shit, man.
A movie I've seen plenty of times.
Movie I've seen once.
Really?
Wow, really?
Only once.
Well, get ready, dude.
I'm excited for this one, and, you know, it's kind of like Valentine's Day's coming up.
It's a romantic sort of movie.
I'm very sure.
I've seen it once, and I'm going to say no on that.
But sure.
Hey, guys, get your secret cocaine crucifixes ready to roll.
I know I will be.
So until next week, where we are in studio with Angelica Jade Bastion talking cruel intentions.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Seda.
Chris Gavin.
Eric Sisker.
Take it easy.
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