We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 468 - Cruel Intentions (with Angelica Jade Bastién)

Episode Date: February 11, 2020

On this week's episode, the gang welcomes back Vulture writer and friend of the show, Angelica Jade Bastién to chat about the outrageous teen sex romp, Cruel Intentions! Was no one considering the fact that these characters are like 18 tops? What is with Ryan Phillippe's terrible duster? And did we really need this horrendous Joshua Jackson character? PLUS: Chris Cabin falls down a paranoid rabbit hole trying to connect the dots in The Rise of Skywalker! Cruel Intentions stars Ryan Phillippe, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Reese Witherspoon, Selma Blair, Joshua Jackson, Sean Patrick Thomas, Christine Baranski, Eric Mabius, Swoosie Kurtz, Tara Reid, and Louise Fletcher; directed by Roger Kumble. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on the program, there's only one thing missing to make this full-on pornography. It's Cruel Intentions. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Siddak. Chris Cavan. Eric Cisca. Angelica J. Bastian. And we hate movies. Hello everyone. Welcome to the program. Thank you for tuning in, as always. It's a very special episode. We are coming to you from the brand new, beautiful and still newly smelling headgum studios in Brooklyn, New York. And we are happy to welcome back our friend of the show. Vulture writer, Angelica Jade Bastion. Hello, thank you for coming back.

Thank you for having me. I feel pretty fucking honored. Like, I'm in such a good mood and so full of myself right now. I've been on We Hate Fucking Movies Two Times, Bitch, with some 90s movies. Hell yeah. Absolutely. Those are the prime slots. The 90s ones are really like.

Yeah, that's the magic style. Sean needed to have She's All That, and we obliged him. Right. And you've been on Species before. this is one that we've been circling like sharks for a little while so I'm glad we got to it because it's just that movie I've seen this movie or a part of this movie quite a few times you break a VHS tape with the rewinding possibly snapped it I'm the right age for that I'm sorry no that that scene was on repeat although I will say rewatching this movie I probably hadn't seen it since like the early aughts but watching it I realized I've seen this movie a lot of times not just just the, you know, girl-on-girl kissing. But it was a cable movie. A lot of very on cable. And this movie was

kind of a phenomenon. Like, everybody was talking about it for a little bit. Oh, yeah. I remember. I remember seeing it for the first time that kiss. In 99, it was like this, the Matrix, Star Wars, Episode 1, and that's it. That's all you need it. I mean, that's

crazy. To get you through. Anybody see this in theater? By any chance? No. No, it was a straight-up rental. Yeah, same. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I went to a lot of movies in 99. Oh, congratulations.

Thank you. We should say this is directed by Roger Cumble. Great name. Is that a real person? I don't know. I'd be using a fucking alias if I made the movies this dude's made. Because he directed this. He directed the sequel to this.

What were we just talking about outside? The other movie he did? Just Friends. Oh, Just Friends. Yeah. Ryan Reynolds is fat. That's the joke. he also did furry vengeance

which is that it's about a convention that went wrong I wish I fucking wish dude a revenge film set inside the world of a furry convention

I'd watch it I would so watch that movie like radio land murders and they're just killing them off all the people who are putting the thing together that makes perfect sense everyone's got a mask

you don't know who to trust those are big bulbous costumes you see one of those guys in the corner it could be empty he could be dead in it and it's standing up you don't know he might just be taking arrest

too. Like, oh my God, that purple horse has been stabbed in them. Ferry Vengeance is Brendan Fraser as a land developer and sentient, like, talking animals come after him and I watched it when I had salmonella poisoning. And I will never forget it.

Yikes, that is a double bill to never forget. I just remember being like at debt store being like, this is terrible. Dude, what if it was the last movie you watch? Yeah, that was a gamble. Did you just watch that? Did you watch anything else or just that?

Unrepeat. I know it was that and then other stuff but that's the one that burned into my my brain. Gotcha. But like how embarrassing is that Steve? Like you are straight on your way to hell having died from salmonella poisoning and the devil's like, Stephen, what was the

last movie you watched? And you were like very vengeance, sir. I mean that would be the thing. It would just keep going. The devil just pulls everyone who comes in. Oh, totally. Big Sinophile. The devil loves movies. Absolutely. Come in and shit out.

So, so, what do you watch it these days? Most people just say Woody Allen movies, but okay, furry vengeance. Wait, so the animals are also talking in that movie? As I remember it. Or were you just really fucked up? No, no, they're talking.

They're talking, happen in animals. So, Steve, just because I've known you for the better part of 20 years, I know that you've probably seen this movie the most. You are the resident pervert. That's not fair. Hey, YouTube didn't work back then exactly all this to just say if you had to quickly condense this movie

for the folks at home who may not have seen it been around in 99 what is this movie uh it's tiny tunes dangerous liaison yes yes yes or it could have been produced on the wb like as a like tv movie movie like honestly because it has some w b folks which is why i was upset it's the w bness but then it's like it was for folk who were watching those w b shows with those actors, but then it's like there's also thrusting in this movie, like, get on it, these scenes, these scenes. It could

have used the WB. Frog Yeah. Oh, sure. To get involved. What was his name? Michigan J. Frog. Kind of incest on the W.B. Tonight. Does he name that because he was conceived in Michigan? I guess. I don't understand why

that the frog is named the fraud name. Okay. But it's, yeah, prep school kids are playing dangerous liaison. and getting into all sorts of sexual misadventures. My thing that I realized watching this movie, why, if the whole thing is like, oh, it's a dangerous liaison,

Senator Prep School, but we're never at the prep school. Never at the school. It's so fascinating when shows or movies do this where it's like high school kids and they're not doing a lick of homework. They're never sending foot on the school except for, I guess, the very end.

Yeah. Well, this is, it's summer break. Yeah. Which is so dumb. Like, why involve the prep school this much in the story. Now that country manner they go to towards, I guess is that towards the end?

Is that the school? Is that what we're led to do? No, no, that's the head. The aunt's house, right? Yeah, that's the one Nurse Ratchet lives. You mean, no, when the funeral stuff is happening at the very end?

No, before that, when they go, when they're like riding horses and shit? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's at the aunt's house. Oh, my Lord. There's only like five settings in this entire movie, honestly. It's an aunt's house,

the New York apartment. And the New York apartment is so ornate, so wealthy. Every single scene of this movie, I feel like Napoleon Bonabar could walk into it and you'd be like, it doesn't change. It looks like it looks like it fits. Yes, no, totally. And I mean, like, it's one of those things where a lot of the stuff that they tried. And I'm not a dangerous liaison to expert.

Now, what is that? Is that like a board game? Yeah, yes. Based on the hit board game, dangerous liaison. It's sorry trouble and dangerous liaison. I thought this was based on hungry, hungry hippos or thirsty, thirsty hippos. You might as well, it's suggested by hungry, hungry, hippos. I hate that credit.

The suggested instead of based on is like it's so fucking loose we can't say based on so it's suggested. But it's European smut. Have you read the book or no? Yeah, I love how you guys look at me

like I'm cultured. I don't, I don't, what do I do most days? Like smoke weed and watch Bob's burgers. I'm not smart. If you guys think I'm smart out there in the world like I'm a dumbass. I just hide it very well. I didn't need to look at these guys. I know we're O for four.

So I was going to the new element. Producer Mike, have you read Dangerous Liaisons? That's a no. All right. That's six around over six. What I know about it is the Stephen Fier's movie with Malcovich and Glenn Close. And Michelle Pfeiffer. Right.

Is this not Cicill, she's the Annette. In that story, Chris Cabin, are they like, is it the same? Like sex games, kind of like if you get her in bed, then I'll have sex with you, stepbrother. It's woo, that's the thing. It's all sex games, except for they add the step sibling element in this movie. This is the ground zero of today's modern pornography. The er text, I would call it. Just like the stepsister phenomenon that is gripped the country.

It is gross and it doesn't make any sense. It just makes it gross for no reason. there's so much gross about this movie like as now an adult like watching a movie that they're supposed to be teenagers and they're all like sweaty and like grinding on each other or losing their virginity or giving their stepbrother

a hand job while teasing him because that's just a thing you do you know in between getting your manicure and pedicure I guess I don't know talk about filling time I mean that's how they do it yeah that's how I feel time too I just give out handjob I couldn't even say it with a straight food But, like, you were watching this movie, and, like, my wife and I last night were, like, total tops.

They're 18. Yes. Total tops. And, like, Selma Blair's character, which is hilarious because she was the, like, oldest actress playing the youngest character. And she's sort of playing her, like... A child? Yeah, like, infantiles. I was curious about that, too.

It's really weird. Like, she's wearing that koala shirt, and I'm like, what game are we playing here? There's, that ticks somebody's box because it's very strange because she's, like, you know, supposed to be a teenager. but she acts like a really young child and she'll sometimes do these weird things like she'll blink really hard and she'll just smile randomly and you're just like, is she okay?

It's like living is hard. Like every moment is awkward. It's so weird. The red sweatshirt is like really big for her and I thought like that was another little thing. It's a game. But the weird thing is like, so then if that's the case

and we're not going to high school ever, why not just set them as a bunch of sexy 20 year old kids that are getting into no good because for Roger Cumble gotcha that's not as hot a CEO in the 80s porno Roger Cumble

yes Cumble soup dude that's what I meant though about there's only one thing missing from this movie to make a pornography and that is like actual penetration scene in genitalia because like the music like the score to this movie is 100% porno music

you get some butt you do get by butt philippe stunt double butt do Oh, really? Don't even try to tell me that that's Ryan Philippi's ass. Don't break my... You don't see his face. Did you research this? Are you just like doing a truther thing right now?

No, it's neither. I will say, I just... It's a crisis actor's ass. No, because like when she looks like Sarah Michelle looks across the room, it cuts to this dude. His back is fucking jacked. And his shoulders are so wide. He looks like...

The dude does look like the Wolverine from the back. I do agree with that. That's the thing. And when you see Ryan Philippe in this movie, he's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. You realize how tiny of a person he is? Well, it was the 90s. We had to be tiny, tiny.

If that's true. If that's true, they also gave him the stupid Justin Timberlake Ryan Felipe haircut. Oh, sure. Whoever this guy is. Oh, his hair is so jelled. It's so ugly. It's really offended me. I was like, y'all are supposed to be rich, and I'm not rich, and I look good.

And his name is Sebastian Valmont. Yes. Vampire-ass name. That is a total vampire name. I can go get the garlic. get this guy. Later on when he's trying to like, you know, he's like trying to break up with Reese Witherspoon to like

get her away from him because he's such a bad guy. He's like, you were nothing but a conquest. And I wrote down in my notes, is he a vampire? Vampires use the word conquest. Quite a lot. Sure. Well, part of that I think is also what they're doing in this movie in the way it's written. They are

they're like in, they're pushing 30. Everyone in this movie is pushing 30 playing teenagers who act like they're all. 60 years old. And speak like they're 60 years old. And it makes no fucking sense and just makes it way more confusing to listen to what they're

saying in this movie. It makes less sense because it's so isolated. There's not like sense of a world around them really at all. Where are the parents? They're in Bali. Oh, I miss that detail. They call at one point and we get the classic line. Oh, the parental unit's called.

Oh, parental unit alert. That was an expression in the 90s. Absolutely. I hated units not into it but the only like parental figures you have in this movie is Christine Baransky

who is a racist she's a total racist Selma Blair's mother yeah completely shitty to the dude from Save the Last Dance Sean Patrick Thomas that poor bastard in this movie you will always whenever you say his name

it's like being on a weird bike because I'm like Sean Patrick Flannery or Shaw Patrick Thomas Sean Patrick Flannery or Shaw and the handlebar goes nuts. I wish people could see the handlebar acting out right now. It's important to do that. It's proof that Steve never learned to ride a bike.

I'm riding a bike. Oh, and Nurse Ratchet is the aunt of Reese Witherspoon's character. Yeah, she also played Kai Winn on Deep Space Nine. Yes. Got to give you some Deep Space Nine deeps, y'all. You know how I do. Philippe. She's, uh, Philippe's aunt.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then is, uh, Reese Withersman's character is like just there for the summer for some reason. Rich people, I guess, know each other. Yeah. And they're like, my daughter is like, going to be around other rich people. So let's hit them up. I don't know.

I don't know what they do. It's kind of, it's that plus like it's very clear like an old French thing that never got excised from the novel. Like, it's like, oh, mama will, we'll put you up for the summer over there while it takes me an, a year and a half. have to traverse the globe. It doesn't make sense in modern times. Put this girl in a fucking hotel. I think the other thing though is because they just have these sprawling estates, which I

could never figure out, is it Westchester or is it Long Island? Question mark. I believe, I think I saw one of the locations they filmed that was Long Island. Okay. Because when she's driving out of the city at the end of the movie, she's like driving north to Westchester. But I think at the beginning of the movie, when we see Ryan Phillip by driving into the city,

he's supposed to be coming from Long Island. Not that they ever specify. They don't mention any real locations. Also, don't set most of your movie on the Upper East Side. It's the dullest fucking place in Manhattan to set anything. So can just anybody write an article about not getting laid and get like taken to one of these castles? Wait, what? Are you trying to hatch a scheme?

Yeah, I actually, as a young girl, wrote an article for 17 magazine about how I would never have sex before marriage, which. Oh, no. Take that 17 magazine. You got scammed. Also, the threat of it is like 17 is going to take that away at some point. Like, if she ever has sex. It's a crown? Exactly.

It's just a yearly thing? Yeah, it's like there's a lot about reputations in this movie, which is I get it on some level because they're like rich white kids and their reputations are very important. But on another level, it does seem like it's cut from a completely different society. Yeah, exactly. And you need to see that. cachet being spent with other people like not just these four characters

you don't get the circle of their there's no like ball scene that they could go to or something like the summer the summer ball gala Eric yeah it's a gala thank you or some end of summer party something totally it's weirdly claustrophobic it is

for a movie that's set in all of these big like Yorkville mansions and shit up town like a masquerade ball would have been really sexy right well this was 99 wasn't that also the year of eyes wide shot yeah wow this is like eyes wide shut junior fidelio cindy pollock plays like the gym teacher lil fidelio tiny tunes version of eyes wide shot that's true tiny tunes by the way another instance where you can't really tell if they're in high school or college yeah except for

the fact that they go to a lunaversity so you're supposed to i guess clean college but they're like little kids because they also have a really cool spring break so i feel like that's more of a college thing. Killer spring break that those cartoons had. So we start with Philippi and Swozy Kurtz is his therapist and we get like really bad 90s therapy

gags. You know what I mean? I'm billing you by the hour. Blah blah blah. I'm kind of surprised there was no like Valium jokes. Yeah. We loved antidepressant jokes in the 90s also. Instead they do the what about Bob book joke. Yes. Which is bullshit. The great

She has written a Ha ha she has written a book that's great parenting And she books him for the book After being like this will help you do everything Although it's not like he's becoming a parent No I guess she just wrote the book And he's trying to unload it and is just going to bill him for it Yeah

That's one way to sell copies of your book Yeah And pretty unethical as a therapist Yeah that's like a really bad therapist Yeah Does Swozy Kurtz play a similar character In Dangerous Liaison's with John Malkovich? Because she's also in that movie.

No, she plays Salma Blair's stand-in. Oh, the other way around. Oh, is that right? Yeah. That's not Michelle Pfeiffer? No, Michelle Pfeiffer. Is Reese Spoon? Yeah.

Oh. I love that this is a proud tradition and heritage. Like, she continues to play roles in. Yeah. Leasons. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they went to John Malkovich numerous times that he said absolutely. Maybe that's why there's no, like, you know, like school headmaster or something,

because that's the Malkovich role. Get any of his ass with that movie? I don't believe so. I wish. Back of the man, I wish. I think you finally get some in being John Malkovich, I think. Oh, really? I got to rewatch that.

There is some fail on that. Me too. Totally overdue for a rewatch. Yeah, so what is the deal, though? So he screws over Swozy Kurtz because he posts pictures of her daughter online, nude photos. Let's talk about this for one motherfucking moment. I wrote down in my notes, Sebastian is a sexual terrorist. This is revenge porn.

Yes, it's one of the earliest incidents I think of revenge porn in movies. It's insane and they're playing it for laughs, but it's like he took pictures of her and put them up online to ruin her reputation and also ruin her mother's reputation. Right, like it's more vengeance against the mother, but like this daughter's the victim. And it's like, the movie's like, ha ha, isn't this great? look at this cool dude and this duster that just fuck this lady over

he built a real deal like kind of fancy for 1999 website around these pictures there's animations you went to an animation studio this guy is like the Osama bin Laden of revenge porn and we the audience are Al-Qaeda because we're supposed to

enjoy it fair enough Al audience but no yeah he does so many things in this movie that are not okay and to the point of like really reprehensible and like he changes but not really when he dies I'm kind of clapping it's great oh I was tackling we will get to that being hit by car

ragdoll flying that that was beautiful it's not quite on par with meet Joe Black and Brad Pitt oh yeah you know I think that still has the trophy yeah totally but yeah it's it is weird the nudie thing and you're supposed to be like got her You know what I mean? Like, you as the audience, like, got that bitch. Yeah, I love seeing a girl cry to her mother. Yeah, what a cool dude.

This guy's the hero of the film. Yeah, they do position him like that because then the mother is like banging on glass. Like, you're going to be like screwed over you little shit. And then he's like looking up and then a girl comes up to him and she's like, hi, I'm like Clarissa. and he's like oh really yeah let's like do stuff that's pretty much the extent of it like she's got like googly eyes for this dude from the jump they immediately start holding hands oh do they i miss that way they have their hands hold swave as far it was 1999 he was five foot seven and 91 pounds you had to be like holy shit i want to fuck that dude yeah look at that

duster again i say the duster in this movie it's summertime it's summer in new york city you wearing a huge fucking duster dude what are you doing and he's wearing this mustard or not even mustard it's like shit brown like shirt and tie combo because they have to be the same shimmery kind of color yeah the whole and like the suit jackets are also kind of like fucking uncle fester or something and he's the most popular guy in school like the guy that wore a suit all the time was a weirdo in your school. Am I wrong? He's a weirdo. He is a weirdo. I feel like people would actually think he's kind of skeezy

considering his reputation is that he like tends to screw not just screw women but screw them over in the process. Right. So I don't understand his popularity. Catherine's popularity played by the great, the amazing, the beautiful, the 5-3

there Michelle Geller. Oh yeah. I can see how she could be popular. Right. because she's fine and I would like totally be trailing around her but she's also like two-faced like purposely like right

but he's just like I'm an asshole deal with it and it's like okay how cutting ooh you're really aggressive I like that so he leaves this therapy session and this is we are introduced to

Sarah Michelle and Christine Baranski is using her as like a introduce my daughter Selma Blair into the school's, you know, social pool kind of a thing. And again, that's something that makes sense

in fucking 19th century France. If you're like, this is my daughter. Show her so that she, where the nearest taverns are as opposed to like, my fucking daughter's going to school and I need to like prepare her the summer before. Well, I guess it's, I guess, you know, for like 1999 New York City Times, it's like, well, she's the senior

and Selma Blair's going to be a freshman, like take her under your wing kind of a thing in the big city. this kind of thing, I feel like. Sure, yeah. You know their parents. You just like, hey, talk to them for that. Exactly. Would you help me out?

You attended her coming out ball, you know, prepare her for the next level of social sophistication or whatever. Your virginity masquerade went to hell. And this is, I mean, this is, she is just playing a little child. She's wearing the koala t-shirt and said that like her and her father went on a vacation down under and he's like, oh, how are things down under? Blossoming, I hope. He looks up her skirt in front of.

Also, Christine Burinsky, she drops a line about like, oh, and at that time that Sebastian traumatized the school nurse, I didn't think he'd be going back after that. What happened there? What was that? What the fuck was that?

I think it's the same thing that Hannibal Lecter did to the nurse that bent over him. Oh, he bit her face off. But he's rich, so it's fine. Exactly, he just got a little slap on the wrist. He got sent home early from school that day. But that's something, too, that Angelica's point that I'm going to bring up again is that he's not, it's not like he's just a ladies man. He, like, destroys people and gets off on that more than even the sex.

Yeah. And that seems like a difficult thing, again, for the hero of the movie. But that says kink, Stephen, you have to support it. It's a James Bond thing. Like, this is the greatest spy. He fucks everybody, tells everybody his name, shoots all the time. and yeah and nobody knows who he is he's a mystery man

but I don't think like it's a mystery as to what Sebastian's getting up to but they all act like that they all act like because that's dude that is the rich strata it's just like turn a blind eye to everything money will fix it all kind of a situation you know I guess so the

the thrust of this movie pun intended is they come up Sarah Michelle and Ryan Philippi's characters who are stepbrother and sister come up with this this sexual bet that I kind of am still trying to figure out the stakes

and if you think about it too much your head starts to hurt like we had to consult Wikipedia to figure out all the angles of this movie I mean it doesn't really make sense for the basis of a movie because it's not high enough states oh god that sounded terrible

but you know what I mean it's just like he he shows her the article in 17 magazine of Reese Witherspoon's character and he's like now that's a conquest because she wants to ruin Selma Blair's character because her ex, oh my God, this is confusing. Wait a minute, you're totally right.

Her ex, the lesser O'Connell. Oh, right. Has anyone checked in on that dude lately? Is he a lot? He is. He looks like he's been in a house fire. Really? Charlie O'Connell?

Not like he was. So he could play Freddy Krueger? He just aged poorly. And Jerry O'Connell is still, you know, a handsome young man. Young? Yeah. in his 50s. I just hope he hasn't gone

like full Aaron Carter at this point. I really don't want that. What happened to that young guy? He's just gone crazy. It seems really unfortunate. He just went like Amanda Bynes or whatever. Similar,

but like he's also blaming his backstreet boy's brother over things. Yeah, there was a whole thing where he was like, I caught off contact with my whole fucking family including that back street boy. I don't really know. I just know that Chris was very distressed

because he's a huge Aaron Carter fan. Love that. that music. Well, what are these boys doing on the back street anyway? I would cut them out of my life, too. You're right, Eric. You're right. You know? I don't know. So Ryan Philiby, the stakes are, and I guess the timeline is

he has until the end of summer. Sure. He has to sleep with Reese Witherspoon. If he does not, he has to give Sarah Michelle his awesome car. If he does, Sarah Michelle will have sex with him. And he can put it anywhere. Yep. Thanks a lot. 18 year old girls. saying this in this movie what are we fucking doing i mean i was such a stupid i was like what you're like your hand what when you were watching this last night no no like the first time i saw it

you know the question i didn't think you meant my ear what do you do is flopping against the ear it's his kinkman you have to support it i didn't take this to heart yeah he makes this he makes his face they're like oh yeah yeah that's the one that cinches it he's not gonna do it And then she's like, put it anywhere. And he's like, yep, yes, sir. He goes in the bathroom and fucks her lufa. And he's like, that's it, I did it. You said I could.

But then also there's the detour of like he finds out that Christine Baranski was talking shit about him to somebody. And then he's like, I'm also going to fuck Selma Blair and ruin her life. The Selma Blair-Beransky thing has nothing to do with the bet. It doesn't. And that's what's confusing about the movie is you're like, Why is he spending so much time on this other thing? So then I was trying to figure out what stake Selma Blair was in the bet.

And then eventually Chelsea was like, no, there's nothing. It's just a side. There was Sir Michelle Geller just wants to get back at her quote-unquote Nazi ex-boyfriend, which is Charlie O'Connell or whatever. And I think there's like one shot of him in the movie, right? He's just like laying on a bed and that's like it. She heard that he liked Selma Blair. Yeah.

So this gets added into the. Oh, dude, totally missed that. To break that up, even though that's not even what we're focusing on. And they make sex, again, like vampirism. She's like, I'm going to make her into the premier slut of the school by having sex with one guy. And I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, is it going to lead to more sex, I assume? It doesn't really make sense.

No. You highlighted the language there, Steve. The thing that I, that it was like a mystery to me for about five minutes. During the, I'm sorry to bring us back to it, but the, the web page he makes about Tara Reid sure it highlights the word slut

and it's like saying it at first just saying that and then it cuts it comes back all the sun it's saying you are a slut

you are a slut by my book I'm like you've done enough I see the freaking word that's right I go to a website that calls me a slut

that's the internet that's all it is 1999 internet that's a big thing meanwhile this guy this website, which in 99 wasn't as easy as today. You didn't have

these services. And he's saying, only people who use email are geeks and pedophiles. Classic line of dialogue. So they only communicate with written letters like we're in France in the 1800s. So fucking dumb. Or a 1940s movie.

Like, it is so, I was like, is this a letter to three wives? Like, everybody is writing like these long letters and it's really funny to watch. because I'm like this movie would be so different if it was made today like yeah with the same angle of we're doing it for teens because I'm like there's no phones and it's just really weird with the letters and I'm like yeah I think a letter from Iwo Jima was in there

yeah why was like that's in the mail you know what you know what it is is that the original book is an epistolary uh novel so it's in letters yeah yeah damn you learn something every day. Wait, so Chris Cabin, are you trying to say that cruel intentions has something smart about it happening? If you want to call it that word. Somebody call Mr. Cumble. Honey,

you won't believe what these four fat guys said about me. They said I'm smart. Until someone said it. So, yeah, so her side mission is to destroy her life and Philippe goes up to and again, like, going to Long Island's

a fucking hassle, man. It's a total Slok. I don't care if you're in a car. Yes, exactly. Whatever. It fucking sucks to get out there. And he goes and he meets Reese Witherspoon. Who, I mean, like, I think that you could tell that she was going on. Election was the same year. So she's like good in this. Wow. Right. Yeah. But like she's got nothing to do. This is like a paper thin character. Like she's not even like the bad girl. Like I guess he's the good girl, but there's nothing to play with this. You know what I mean? Like because you need to see her much like election actually like swimming in the student population like interacting and seeing like how she is at school kind of because that's what they sort of portray her as is like

she's sort of like nerdy cares about class kind of stuff the headmaster's daughter the new headmaster and when she got published in 17 magazine that said she was from Kansas City Kansas yeah so it's like a she's from a prep school out there and is now the dad is now taking over this prep school they go to and that I guess I get it sounds like a fucking French thing like the new head master yeah i think like a huge problem with this movie and we've touched on this is you know we don't really get to see there michelle geller and reese witherspoon play off each other and to do a whole good girl bad girl dichotomy which is it's trying to do you need to see them play off each other you only see it like that one scene like you know

when they're in the bathroom towards the very very end of the movie yeah and so that's a big problem and they're pretty good in that scene too like to your point like that's actually like one of the best scenes in the movie that you're like, yeah, I would watch all of that. Absolutely. Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing. And I was like, oh, this movie's got like four minutes left. And it finally found the thing after like an hour and a half.

Or even have Reese Witherspoon interacting with Selma Blair. Like she only interacts with the aunt and Ryan Philippe. And that's it. She's just locked down in his aunt's home. Which I feel is another kind of outdated. Like, you're not leaving the grounds. He'll stay here with me. and he comes in and he's like

Philippe is being like two-faced to her right to the end he's like oh aunt whatever I'm my man yeah is this where she sets them up to like go volunteer with no that's a little is that in her okay one of the things that kind of get started around here but it does go throughout the movie

is the just rampant homophobia that you have yes I was just about to bring that up like in this scene where when he first meets her and like he hits on Reese Witherspoon and she's not having it he's like oh I got it gay and she's like what and he's like oh sorry it's getting real lesbian vibe from you.

In the late 90s and white people love that fucking the word lesbian was a total punchline. Watch that friend's season. It's very close to friends almost entirely. You have one black character in the movie set in New York City. Ramping in homophobic.

Mansions. The only thing you're missing is somebody in a fat suit. That's the only thing you're missing and then it would just be friends. I would kill for a coffee shop in this movie. just some other people around just yeah please go to his second location well we would never be caught dead in a coffee shop

with all the peasants we're not going to central perk today no no no man's central perk so he finds out that somebody wrote her in advance another handwritten letter with perfume on it

is sealed with a wax stamp that said I should comfort him on the front that said that he was a scumbag it's dear clear of him and he doesn't know who it is so he goes to Joshua Jackson again welcome to homophobia town Joshua Jackson with his hair dyed

like peroxide blonde oh man is this something and he is vamping it up and it is so uncomfortable I'm like there's moments in there also it's a weird thing and I feel like if you thought about it

like this is definitely coming up in other movies too but like he's the gay guy who's also the drug dealer and it's just like the conflation of that it's like well he's got to go to his dealer who's also gay obviously it's the 90s he's also the only other character who's like out other than i guess christine baransky who's out and out evil like he's like i'll do this sure i'll take money to like set up this honey pot for this guy oh right right there's a blackmail scheme going on yeah and so what is the deal here it's like so this dude is somebody's greece wetherspoon's best friend best friend oh that's right yeah that's maybe is who is

second or third crow i lost count no really yeah he was a third crow i just remember him on ugly betty yes he was on that oh yeah and he's on all those hallmark movies but steve it's third crow uh excuse me it's the third i apologize i want everybody know who is the third was the second one for a long i think no it's oh right yes yeah maybe it sounds all maybe was this guy the that trailer by the way i haven't watched it yet but what a surprise he kept his hair cut from Blade Runner 2049. Morbius, I'm sorry.

I'm thinking of Morbius. Oh, yes. Jared Leto. I don't know, oh, God, why I watched that trailer. I watched that trailer to, I know exactly why I'm wearing a comic book t-shirt right now. I watched it, and I did not enjoy it. Is that right?

Yeah. What is this comic book t-shirt you have here? It's a saga. Oh, I read a couple of volumes of that. I did two, and then stop. It's hard to keep up. It was the thing I get into with comics where I'll buy, like, two trades, and I'm like, this is amazing.

can't wait to continue oh what's that it's been four years yeah comics are hard to keep up with they're also really expensive hobby which is why like go in and out so like if i'll be i'm sort of in right now and i'm like reading a few things although some of the things i'm reading i think i'm to stop like the batman book i'm like totally oh is it not is it not as good i'm not really feeling it yeah i'm not really feeling it i've been off that man for a little bit what's the batman up to these days i don't know the joker's back He's gonna be back, and I'm like, oh, this bitch, man, you know, this bitch got some finty red lipstick on. I could beat his ass, like, please, like, come on.

Is he extreme or does he have, like, a suit on? He has a suit on, so he's not, like, you know, as- Stapling his face or anything. Oh, God, that was a dark period. That's what I stopped. I was like, the face-off Joker thing, I was like, no, thank you. That sounds pretty extreme. Yeah, the Joker, I'm just, is a character that I feel works in smaller doses.

and the problem is people are so obsessed with that character that you won't be able to do the smaller doses like I don't really think he should be seen that much no and it should be he shouldn't run his own thing it should be like drips and drabs a little dabble do you it's almost like a two hour feature film about the character is weird and doesn't entirely work and could have been a piece of shit

a piece of shit so what is the deal how does Joshua Jackson know that this dude is on the down low because they've been hooking up. Yeah, they've been pulling around before and like, you know. So he's like, I'm willing to have him come over. You can conveniently pop in. At the stroke of midnight as I rub this phallic object. Which is a, I mean, it is a pretty horrific.

I mean, like, the guy is like outwardly homophobic. So he's not like a great guy, but like he is closeted at it. You know what I mean? Like it's a shitty thing to do. It makes him like, well, this is his kink and you got to support it. Yeah. like a really shitty thing but what's also shitty is the fact

that he calls himself the Gregster yes absolutely complete with personalized license plate wait there was a personalized license plate there is you see like I think it's when this sequence starts and it's like Ryan Philippe is going to Joshua Jackson's and the Gregster

has parked outside and it's like Greg something like is the license plate and then there's some other sticker that's like totally awesome or whatever it says And Ryan Philip he like rips it off the bumper Before he goes in the house Like just another fuck you

Like this dude gets like maliciously outed And he's like well at least I still have my bumper sticker I'm like I miss that beautiful moment Because I was probably lighting up And it gets whooshed away Because he's like got the duster and you know But yeah there is some sort of personalized license plate situation That lets you know the Gregster is in town

And he's got a shitty DV camera So he's taking video footage as well of their hooking up kind of a thing. And it's like, you know, 1999 digital video, so it looks like garbage, like all of those dog movies. Yeah, I would just say,

that wasn't me. What are you talking about? Look at that resolution. You can't tell. I could be anybody in there with Joshua Jackson. Can you get some more lighting in here? This is not going to work for me.

Some overheads. This was the 1990s and we wanted Joshua Jackson to be in movies, and I don't know why. Because he's Joshua Jackson. I don't know. I have a weird soft spot for Joshua Jackson.

like watched way too much and wrote too much about the affair partially for him. Oh, see, I haven't seen any of that, but we were a big fringe household. I love fringe totally. So it was that, you know, he is forever Pacey. He's forever, you know, the

main kid from all the Mighty Ducks movies. This is like six years after the Mighty Ducks, I think. Mytex is like 93 or something like that. But never translated to film. That's, yeah. He's a TV guy. And there's nothing wrong to be a TV guy. Absolutely. But you can, I mean, there were these TV movies like we think of like broadcast

you know movies being broadcast on television but like movies released theatrically in the 90s you know like Angelica you said it was like a WB movie that's like you had this like something like what was that movie with Urban Legend is another like just populate these movies with television actors teen dramas were the rage on TV and we had to populate like Party of Five Dawson's Creek I don't know what tiny

The Vampire Slayer. Yeah. Which I was surprised just doing like the timeline math here. Buffy was in its third season when this movie came out and it's like, well, she's top bill. She is. No, I know. But it's weird.

It's like you're in this big TV show. Like, and you're doing this shitty movie? Well, she tried to do some movies with this. She did that. You ever see Simply Irresistible? Okay. Yes, I have. Which one is that?

That's a magic chef one. Yes. What was that one? That's a romantic comedy, right? I'm not like going. crazy. It's her and Sean Patrick Flannery, not Sean Patrick Thomas. Right, and he's like a magician that cooks food?

No. I mean, I'm trying to figure out. No, no, no. She's a chef. Okay. And all of a sudden, like, she gets like magical powers or something. She's like talking to a crab or something in that movie? Wow, I do not remember this movie. I know I have seen it more than once, but I really don't remember that. You may have even seen it more than once, but you haven't seen it more than Chris Cabin.

I vaguely remember it. I remember her in like a chef's coat. That's what I remember. I've never seen it. Should I show my simply irresistible tattoo now? Please do not. Are they playing simply irresistible throughout the movie?

They got to play at least once. No, I don't think they do actually. What the fuck? Palmer must have been pissed. I think it's like old Django Reinhardt songs and stuff like French feel kind of thing.

Is it a remake of a French film? I think it's a remake of an Italian film. Oh, that's weird. And she also did the Scooby-Doo movies, which people... Those are like in the 2000s, right? Those are movies. they moved, they did some movie. Hey, it was 24 frames

a second. That's the nicest thing you can say. I know. When I come out of like screenings and like I don't like the movie, I was like, that's a movie and a movie I guess. It's kind of the same response I give to publicists at trade screening. It's like, well, it was a movie.

It was a movie. You got images on a screen. Congratulations. She is in one great movie, which is Southland Tales, like all of you. At this point, At this point, I mean, this fight has been rehashed. And all I have to say is, I guess I should go back and rewatch it. I should go back and we watch it.

What do you think of that movie, Angelica? I didn't care for it. That's how I felt, too. I saw it with Chris Cabin. In the back of the planet Hollywood. In Times Square. It was kind of the perfect place to see that. Hold on.

Is it a screening room or some hobo's basement? It's a screening room that smells like chicken tenders. Okay. I had to cut my hand and squeeze the blood over the evening. entrance to be got it nice yeah so what do you mean we're opening this planet Hollywood New York City there's no screening room how am I going to screen all of my movie yeah all these got a point man we need a screening room in here what the fuck are we do it's the two of them just yelling at contractors

arc nine I didn't mean the screening room I meant a screaming room I want to come here out to New York and scream I mean I think Jackie Chan is like the fourth investor in that franchise is like yeah I guess it's fine go ahead but a screening room in it's amazing what they use that space for the like press screenings of stuff like that I went to like a

opening of a Broadway show after party that was where I saw Adam Durwitz eating the chicken tenders oh Jesus Adam Turwitz's coming up later that oh in one of the most romantic sequences ever put to film so he finds out that he gets Eric Mavius on his side is like you have to

run interference and tell her I'm a good guy or else you know the jig is up kind of a thing Or else. I got a website waiting for you, buddy. Exactly. You know me in my website. It's going to be me and this fucking shitty real player application. And it is going to play a grainy, fucking constantly lagging video of you in bed with Joshua Jackson. So let me get this straight on this next one. You want me to just have a flashing, you're not a virgin on top of it.

Okay, I could do it. I mean, how much, how long do you need me to do it for you? What is this working class web designer? the first web design right after this scene is the very famous we're sitting in the park kissing scene oh yeah set the scene first she's brushing her hair oh yeah getting it going for something like all the hair people out there getting it going the weirdest part about the scene they only realized it this last time i watched it was the sara michelle gellar is like i have i'm a two face and she even like kind of talks about this lately. That's her path. It's like,

I have to you, Marsha fucking Brady all the time, but I'm really this evil person. I'm the Marcia fucking Brady of the Upper East Side. Ooh, that line stinks. And sometimes, I want to kill myself. Yep, throw that right in. That gets the fucking sentiment going. That's how it should end. I like Sarah Michelle a lot.

I like her character, her personality. She doesn't have the beef for this role. I don't know. Okay, so I'm torn about this role. Like, I I love Sarah Michelle Geller I'm like a Sarah Michelle Geller Apologist March 10th

1997 when I heard that Buffy theme song that shit changed my life it's one of the shows that like I'm very precious about I don't like like anything else Josh Sweden has done but I really have a soft spot for Buffy and there's some times where she really

works in this role and then there's other times where she has line readings that are like hilarious like they're supposed to be like a show that she's like a bad or she's not to be fucked with but it just makes you really fucking laugh so I'm torn about this role

those line readings make me think like she's just pissed off she has to say those things also probably poor direction yes also that well she has from yeah Mr. Cumble the fucking Artura she has the line that was so bad

like I had to tweet it when she's like I hate when things don't go my way it makes me so horny I was like what she says the first part and then there's some sort of like image break and then she says and it's in the and it's like those two statements yeah don't go together but like she says it that way and isn't that when she starts doing the hand jobs that is the yeah she's seated on top of him like reaching behind herself yeah it's like a reverse reach around yeah can i just say as someone who has given hand jobs i found that pretty awkward and it made me question her technique Someone's going to spray in a wrist. I mean, that's very dangerous maneuvering. That's a thumb down, like, I don't know how to work.

They should make, like, a Ford versus Ferrari, but about a hand job. I'd watch that. Like, oh, you think an American guy is going to give a better hand job than these Italians? All right. The Ferrari hand job has won the Daytona 500 every year. I guess we'll just see who comes first. It's either Matt, it's the both of them trying to get Tracy Letts off. Is that how that works?

Oh, God. I'll watch it. I'm also, also the industrial slacks that he's wearing at the time. Like, you know what I mean? There's a zipper involved. It's not, you don't see anything that's going on there. No, you don't, which is fine. Sure.

I mean, it's fine. I mean, again, because we're this close to pornography. So she's, but my thing was, is she's trying to portray this really great, you know, clean cut girl for the high school. But she's like making out with women in the park. Like, you know what I mean? Why is this happening in the park? Broad daylight. And they do like the kiss first, like without tongue.

And Selma Blair's all like, oh, my God. Wow, this feels great. Like, I don't know, man. I'm worried about her. And then they do it again with tongue. And then it's like, it gets even close. The camera gets even closer. And it is really like paying attention to those tongues.

And you even get a little like rule. Yep, just enough, just enough. Some Cumble coverage. How many cameras we got on them right now, guys? Come on, this is, it's a real production here. We need coverage for the male gays. We're making fucking cruel intentions, let's go. You got blur playing in the background, too?

Yes, you do. Noffian TV, that's a song. I've heard a lot. And it opened with placebo, which is a band I liked back then. Oh, man, Marcy's playground, uh, B-side, then to Joshua Jackson. It's a great soundtrack. Like, we can say it. Maybe people disagree with me. It's the best part about this movie by a country mile.

But again, Eric Mabius is afraid of being murdered in the street for being gay. And she's baking out with this woman in the middle of Central Park. Being the Marsha Brady of the Upper East Side, it doesn't make sense. Someone would have seen her. I feel like, you know, it just, again, the problem is their, like, social world isn't fleshed out enough. We, like, legit don't know really many people that they deal with. So it's kind of, like, hard to kind of place anything. It's all about, like, your, you know, your reputation, but you don't ever see what that even means.

You never see her be Marsha Brady at all. Like, not even to Baransky, I think. Very, very loosely because Ryan Philippe comes into that scene, like, almost immediately blows it all up. And that's a Brady brunch, brunch, brunch, the bunch. A brunch. Brady bunch reference? Yes. I'm not familiar.

The mother from the, was that the slutty one? Marcia. It's the mother. No, it's not the lead daughter. She's the oldest daughter. Marcia, Marcia, Marcia. Oh, so she's the popular one. That's what they're trying to say.

What happened to you in the 90s? You couldn't escape the Brady Bunch in the 90s. What are you talking about? There was those two movies, man. Oh, I saw those. I actually kind of liked those. I kind of did too when they came out, but I don't remember them. I wonder if those, because I saw those movies, like, when they came out,

and it was probably, like, kind of too young to understand what they were doing. I was like, well, this is just, I didn't get that it's, like, them. still living like it's the 70s but it's the 90s and that was the joke yeah as my little kid brain was like well that doesn't make any sense this movie's dumb I was too busy with the cone heads but did you guys watch the show

I saw it on reruns or something yeah I watched it I mean I probably have watched some of it at some point it's like cultural osmosis yeah I feel like exactly so I don't know any of these Bradyisms I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't watch I love the 70s you didn't watch Michael in black tell you why would I do that because that's what we're all doing.

Okay. Enjoy your shared narrative. I'll be over here. No, he was enjoying his cliff in the backyard. Yes, I had I grew up with a cliff in the backyard.

That's correct. It's a lovely cliff. It is. It's not bad. We're not live on the air. You can take the past the beer. Kevin was like a jewel thief.

My personal Rafi. Lower it. But so she's seducing her with her wiles to get her to the dark side, which is sex at all. Not, it's not like I'm going to seduce you to, you know, have sex with you.

It's like, I will make you aware of your body. It's like very bizarre, empiric way. Right. It's the vampire wanting to awaken things in you, right? Before they take you and make you a child forever. Is that what the emperor was up to in that last Star Wars movie? I think so, yeah. What fuck was that movie, man?

We're still trying to figure it out. I saw that shit on Christmas and I'm still mad. I'm like, the fuck, I got out of it, and I was like, yo, like, I ain't about Star Wars like that. Like, I don't really know it and shit, but the fuck with this movie. That is the correct opinion. My office at home is like the true detective wall with all the red. No, Kylo and big black marker. You're just building like a little statuette of torn beer chaos.

A grandfather and written in blood in the middle of it with a question mark. I just keep on watching out on a small TV screaming. I fell down and I got better. Emperor Palpatty. Now, Ray, I'm going to put my tongue in your mouth. When I do that, I want you to massage your tongue with mine. Oh, the spittle, like, trail? But it's like, because the emperor was, like, oozing oil in that movie.

There's just, like, black shit coming out of his mouth. It's okay, you are my step-granddaughters. I love that in the Star Wars universe, we still have step-relative. It checks out. But they, she's like, why don't you try on your friend Ronald sometime with Sean Patrick Thomas, who's her cello teacher? She kind of come. And again, like, I have a lot of sympathy for Ronald, but the question remains, how old is Salma Blair? You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, okay, I'm, I'm 30, so I don't remember how old I was when I came at the high school. How old are you? You're like 13, 14. Right, that's what I thought. Something like that.

I get, well, she's uncomfortable. I mean, she's playing it 8 to 16. Somewhere in there. That's where, that's how I played it because I went to one of those weird high schools. It was like a, it was almost like the schools where it's like, it's one room and everyone's in the same grade. Because I was 7th through 12th grade. Did you go to school in the Great Depression? You're like a one room schoolhouse?

Yeah, the rural areas of this country are still in the Great Depression. I was at the same school from K through 8. And I did fifth grade five times. It was like a 10-year bit. Your finest bit. Yeah, exactly. It was like out of sight when I got out. I took off my tie and I threw it on the floor.

But she's like, you know, she realizes that there's something going on there. Yeah, and again, like, is Ronald. And Ronald is told as pre-Julyard, which means he's probably like 17 or 18. And it's like, or he could be a lot older. That's the thing. I was, I don't know. I read him as a little bit older. Because he's like a cello instructor.

That's like college age to me. You know what I mean? Like that's how that reads. Which in Ronald does have so difficulties in this movie and I'm on Ronald's side, but then I'm like, no, dude. I don't know what we're doing here. As a Negro, I am not.

Go on. No, I don't trust the dude. Yeah. Like, there's this moment. This is a little like ahead. where Catherine, played by Sarah Michelle Geller, is watching a video, like, of... Oh, yeah.

Of Selma Blair and the Ronald character, and, like, she does this, like, little handstand and has her leg spread in front of them. Oh, right, yeah. And he's straight up looking at it, and I'm just, like, Ronald, like... Ronald, you can drink. Ronald, don't...

Don't do this to yourself, man. There's plenty... Come on, man. What fuck you doing? Girls weren't Coala shirts, man. They could have easily made everyone college-ed age.

I know. It makes no sense why they're not just all in college. I wish they were just in college and we got to see some college stuff. Like, I want to like this movie. Some college stuff, right? I don't know.

Whatever I didn't, I don't remember. But they kind of then did that movie when they adapted. It's a Brett Easton Ellis book. Rules of Attraction. Because I remember that being sort of like a spiritual. cousin of this movie. I only saw that movie

one time. But like they're in college in that movie, right? Chris Cabin? They're absolutely in college. It's a shitty movie, but like it feels okay because everybody's of age. That alleviates a lot of this creepiness. Exactly, but like I guess if it's not a way to fix this movie, but if the movie

in any way acknowledged that all of this was weird, which it does not, it's just all like kids playing grown up and it is very uncomfortable if you start thinking about it. I think that was the thing was Mr. was like, you know what, as long as nobody thinks about this too hard, I can get away Scott free. Part of the problem is it's like too serious. Like the way they're talking to each other about their schemes and shit. Yeah. And I think this is the same year as American Pie. Yeah. Yeah. Which is

also high school sex, but they go comedy and that makes it work more. Yes. It's like sillier. So it's like fine. Silly sex. Yeah. A big problem with this movie is that it takes itself too seriously and I wish it was like a little bit like sillier in a way and like sort of in because there's moments where it's almost campy especially with Catherine Sarah Michelle Geller's line readings. I'm like you're really amping it up

and it's just like why not just lean into that sort of craziness but then it chooses to take itself too seriously especially when it comes to Ryan Philippe and Reese Witherspoon's relationship. It's very very earnest and I was very very bored looking at them argue or look at each other or like wow we're so blonde i don't know whatever they were talking about because it's totally from just a completely different movie like

whenever they go to scenes with the two of them you're like all right well this isn't the other thing the other thing though that's really obnoxious is it's a movie who screenplay thinks it's really clever with some of the lines and there's a sarah michel line that's absolutely awful is she she's reacting to something filippe is done or said and she says something like, well, don't do this with the speed of a hurdler from the Special Olympics? And you're like, okay, like,

that's a joke. Like, it's supposed to be a joke in the screenplay. There's a Star Trek The Next Generation line, I missed it. She calls him Picard or something like that. Boldly go where no one has gone before. Picard. And it's like, does this character watch Star Trek the next generation? But I do.

Oh, yeah. Sorry. But Picard was known for Deflowering Virgin. Yeah, that is. No, don't you be spurred. It's such a great captain. I'm going to dip down into her neutral zone.

Come on. Watch this little romulan. Let's give it a kiss. You watch that show. He never touched anyone who was under their mid-40s. And that is the absolute right attitude. That's totally true. That is why I loved him.

I was like, I had a crush on Picard as a young girl. Oh, yeah. But I knew he would never look at me the same way because I was a young girl. And I respected him for that. You say that, but you've never seen the young Picard, Steve. Oh, yeah, that's true. Hello. All right, Mr. Data.

Now, I'm going to put my tongue in your mouth. When I do that, you take your robot tongue and massage my tongue with it. That's a nice picnic I've made for us. Oh, my God. Our date on the Holladeck. This is Slash that definitely exists, by the way. Oh, totally. Computer.

Coffee and TV by Blur. All right, Holladek. initiate cruel intentions protocol excellent now just that scene over and over again please computer repeat yeah I don't know

yeah so she's like trying to get Salma Blair to have sex with Ronald and Ronald wants this is when there are other more letters are being written right because Ronald that's revealed has written tons and tons of love letters to her someone in this movie needs to be like

what the fuck with all of this manual correspondence. What are we talking about? Pick up the phone. You got shitty cell phones in this movie. Use those. They're not all nerds and pedophiles. So they can't do it. They can't do it. It's so dumb. But they can make intricate website. Yes, they can.

I wish there was a thing, like, when he goes to the website, there was like a little counter. Or the old, like, the visits counter that just a tick by. It would just be like two. Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. A sex crime, web ring. Do you remember web rings? Yes. Oh, I do. All right. Yeah, I'm going to ruin

Tara Reid's life, which you need to do, my friend, to help me ruin her life, is to go to geocities.com, forward slash Ryan Philippi, forward slash user, forward slash Tara Reid is a slut, forward slash MPR3, forward slash. Sebastian, everyone who's in is on Angelfire now. Loser. That is a blast from the past. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, Angelfire? Are people going to know what we're talking about? Probably not.

parents. Just think of live journal, Tumblr, and I don't know, there's probably another one. Those are all old lady websites you're talking about. What do they use now? Yeah, what do kids use now? Tick-Tock. It's all TikTok. Oh, fuck. Okay, imagine you post on TikTok. There you go. Yes, imagine it.

Same shit. Someone's hacked by TikTok. Oh, man, Picard's saying hacked my TikTok. I like just watched the new Picard show, a few episodes of it. Oh, lucky. Because I'm reviewing it for Vulture.

Yes. You know, by the time this comes out, we'll be hit, we'll have been out for a while. But now I'm imagining like older Picard, so it's making all this. Even worse? Yeah, it's making it much worse. Let me show you my chateau. It's a nice chateau. And the dog, oh my God.

Oh, number one. Number one. It's so cute. I'm so jealous you've seen episodes. We're recording this the eve of the premiere. Yeah, we're going to say to me. So, yeah, I'll be CBS all accessing. Might be going to the office a little late tomorrow morning.

Watch my Picard. I hope he does the same thing as with Brandy and once upon time and I wouldn't. He's sticking him on Wharf or something? Mr. Wharf, this is the last of your bad ideas. And you are on a horsey. Number one, champ balls. Yes, yes. Computer, run, Cilio Drive protocol.

Oh, God. Stop it. Oh, I love it. Around here is when he's, so, Philip Hay is like full on, let's make this concerted effort to try to ruin Reese Withersfin's life. So he's got to do it by playing the nice guy.

This is around when they go on this date to the old folks home. Yeah, sure. Because nurse aunt Nurse Ratchet What is the actresses his name? I feel like Louise Fletcher. Thank you. I'm calling her fucking Nurse Ratchet.

Did she win an Oscar for that or she got nominated? I believe she was nominated. Yeah. Did she win? Yeah. I'll find that. She should have if she did. I just looked at the Wikipedia page that I was high.

Very, very high. This is why you shouldn't work from home kids because you don't get as much work done because you're just smoking the weeds. But it's a better environment. It is a better environment. Is your Picard write up just about the dog's fur for about it? Yeah, just about the dog's fur.

It's just about how, like, different he drinks is Earl Grey now, which I noticed. I was like, he said Earl Grey decaf. Oh, really? I was like, wow. Well, I need decaf because my fucking heart will explode. My fake heart that I have. Louise Fletcher did win the Oscar. Oh, good.

You know what, good for her. She's a good actress. She is a shit actor. In this shitty movie, but. I mean, I feel like she. She's added to give it a little oomph little gravitas getting the Academy Award Reuter in there. Yeah, so she's like, oh, I need volunteers

for the old folks home, but I've got opera tickets or some horseshit. You guys got to go. It sounded like a real line. I think we're missing a few important things, before we get to this. Oh, please. One of the things is Catherine decides to tell Christine Baranski, doesn't she tell her?

Oh, right. This is after she sees the video. Yeah, about Selma Blair and... Sean Patrick Thomas? Sean Patrick. Fucking three first names. What is he going to kill a president? It bothers me when people have three first names. I don't know why.

But anyway. Because you can be standing in the shadow of an assassin at any turn. Is Selma Blair tells Sarah Michelle Geller where she stores the love letter. Yes. Which then she can use to tell her mother. It's just a weird. It's just like, oh, he's writing me love letters. You don't have to say you hide them and your doll has.

Yeah. Which is also to leave the way. we're dollhouse out of this scenario. Dude, my skin was crawling. He's too old for that. Exactly, but it's like we're infantilizing this character. And now she's got a fucking dollhouse and I'm freaking out. I stuffed them in my teddy bear.

You might as well have said it. Yeah, the little teddy bear's back on zips and all these love letters are really. But there's like this moment where because like, so Sarah Michelle Geller and Christine Branski, they meet up when Sarah Michelle is like going shopping, which is really fucking. weird like she's just like at a store and then she's like Christine Bernanke's like is it drugs and Sam Michelle Geller's like it's words you're black man but but there's this exchange where like Sarah Michelle Geller tells her like you know I think there's something going on with Selma Blair and John Patrick Thomas and then I know she's so young and he's so and then

Christine Beranski's screened black yeah the scariest thing possible is that her daughter it could be convoying. And they're just conversing in this mall food court or wherever they're supposed to be doing the shopping or whatever. And in a movie where there might be another black person other than one, that would be almost like, oh, she's the out of touch one.

But in this movie where he's the only black guy and she's like, it's a black person. It's like, well, what are we talking about? Yeah, it's almost sounds like the voice of the crew. Exactly. The voice of the audience. Like, yeah, if it was, you're like commenting on this society level, whatever. If she was the shitty old white lady, which she is the shitty old white lady, that's one thing.

Right. But like she tries to, they quote unquote save it by trying to make it a coffee joke after this thing. Yeah. Yeah, because she's like says, oh, brown sugar. Oh, no, no sugar or whatever. Oh, right, because someone's coming to, like, fill her coffee. There's like a waiter or something. In the store. Sarah Michelle's, I think she has like a handler that goes around with her. Oh, is that what it is?

Oh, yes. Yeah, she's a Vietnamese maid or something. Which is very weird. She's just silent as all hell, just always behind the commercial killer. Was she starring in that Oliver Stone movie? What was that? With Tommy Lee Jones. Heaven and Earth?

Oh, yes. That is the same woman, is it not? Yeah. She died like not long after this, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of sad career. Never seen Heaven on Earth. It's not a long time ago, and I don't know if it's good.

It's always hit and miss with that stone. Well, yeah, it's an Oliver Stone movie, so you're starting off already. Not great. Yeah, and like, so she forbids them to see each other, and she, like, yells at Ronald, and there's like a Colin Powell joke here because it's 1990 fucking nine.

Oh, that's right. She's like, I'm not racist because I donated to Colin Powell. He's got a great reply to this. Yeah, their exchange is really, really fascinating. Christine Branski and Starr and Patrick Thomas when she confronts him. It's really uncomfortable Also like not

Not this movie Yeah You know Deal with that someplace else He says like oh I guess you put me in my place Because you've donated to Colin Brown There's also something where he's writing a musical About Martin Luther King Jr

And I'm like What the fucking fuck are we talking about? I said I like in my head I was like is that the only black person they know Like what the fuck kind of opera would that be Like the fuck? Like the fuck? When that's brought up

Selma Blair has some really corny line where she's like, what does she say? Like, oh, I love Dr. King or Dr. King's my favorite or something like that. Yeah, I love Dr. King. She says it's so weird. It's like, the fuck, the fuck. Like, don't sexually

say that name. You know, we have to sexualize Dr. King right now. It just, it really lets you know this woman, this girl doesn't know what sex is at all. So she's just like throwing sex on anything. Yeah, she throws sex on anything. And that's why Catherine has the bad

sort of get involved with her and go down on her, which happens, I feel like, before the old folks home. Yeah, I believe, yeah, you're right. Because there's like a weird moment where he's like stroking the tennis racket and licking his lips, like to remind her what happened. Well, he also, he gets her drunk. He gives her a Long Island iced tea, which is the last time I was blackout drunk. I had three of those. Oh, that'll do it, dude. And I'm, like, a 36-year-old fat guy.

You know what I mean? Not a 13-year-old girl. Oh, yeah, because she's got some line. And, again, like, this is all supposed to be, like, a joke. She's like, oh, this doesn't taste like ice tea. And he's like, it's from Long Island. Oh, you're 14. And he gets, yeah, he coerces her.

Like, now you've got to promise to let me kiss you. It's, then it's just like, no, no, no, I don't want to kiss you there. I want to kiss you down there. You're not going to break a promise, are you? Like, that's one of the things he says. Exactly. This scene reads so weird And like it's supposed to be

Again, because Solvo Blair's older than Ryan Philippates doesn't look that weird But it reads really weird Yeah Yeah So yes, those horrible things happen But that's the thing too Is he has to taunt her afterwards

It's like one thing to like Do that is like Yeah, the tennis racket's uncomfortable But she's she is such an infant Yeah She doesn't know that she had an orgasm She has to get confirmation Oh, right, Sarah Michelle tells her.

Like, oh, that's what was, that's what that feeling was. Yeah, because she describes it and she's like, oh, it was like an explosion. And it's like, oh, God, are we doing this? I'm like, am I really here? Is this really happening? I'm genuinely surprised Sir Michelle Geller

didn't have to tell her that, oh, that's your vagina. That's a vagina. That's a vagina. And what's that? Was that on the Brady Bunch? Yes, that was. Marsha also did that. Cut to Mr. Cumbull's office. Like, yeah, this is how girls talk.

Click, click, click, click, click, click, click. This checks out. Yeah, never talk to an actual female human being. Never. Yeah, so they go to Long Island. Like, they're having sort of a lunch date and he's trying to do something here. This is where Louise Fletcher is like, I think she says, I have concert tickets, which is hilarious. Because I just pictured her going to like a Springsteen show.

They've already had the pool scene, which is not famous, but it's a pool scene. This is when you see Philippi's ass And oh yeah, this is where it's Supposedly This hashtag fake asses. Dude, this conspiracy goes all the way to the top All the way to the cheek. I mean, like you see this guy from behind

It's like fucking Aaron Rogers. And like there's some like flirtation But like she very pointedly pulls away from She's like, you're not a good guy. And well, I am a good guy because I'm going to go Fuck around with old people for a little while. Love fool. They play Love Fool.

Yeah. They go from like Nazi music to like Love Fool. Nazi music. It's like grand like orchestration music. Oh, you mean opera. Yeah. What you're talking about. Opera.

Yeah. Opera. Got it. So yeah, it's like he's pretending that he loves old people. Which come on. That's a lot. If anybody tells you that, I mean, what are we doing? But they're volunteering.

And like he gets stuck with this, you know, one woman, he's assigned to this one woman. woman and he tries to like go with Reese Witherspoon and the order to Lee's like that's not how this works like you go and spend time with another person and he's like treating this woman like garbage and it's like again supposed to be funny because he's like saying stuff and she's hard of hearing so he's like I fucked your daughter last night just like excuse me it's sad because he says to her like oh we played like three games of backgammy yeah oh yes oh we played three games of back and it's like yeah and you won each time and she's

She's like, oh, my. I did. I don't remember that. Well, it must be my feeble brain. I'm like, oh, this poor little old lady serves a nice person. David in her. Not this douche novel. Definitely.

I don't trust him with this old lady. That's the one thing he hasn't checked off yet. Oh, my God. Granny shaggers, look out. Granny shaggers. Hey, Steve, did they ever put a second season of Age Gap Love on Netflix? That's a damn shame. But there is a show on We,

TV called Extreme Love, where they talk about Granny Shaggers occasionally. It's like they dip into all sorts of different... But they're like faster when they do it or something? No, no. It's an anthology show, so they're talking about a bunch of different fetishes. It's the same British lady narrating it. So what else they get into, dude? Burry talk. There was clown

sex coming up. Stop it. A joke or play. You know that exists, dude. A lot of balloon popping. Balloon popping habits. Yeah. Hot. man fucking a balloon animal

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We get some fat boy Slim coming up right here. Raise you like a shoe. So this is like at the 50 minute mark of a 97 minute movie. At this point, I should be starting to move towards that. I kind of like Ryan Philippe. Yes. For this arc to work in any serious way.

Absolutely. And he is just berating this old lovely lady and then Reese Witherspoon falls for him in this roadster. Yeah, she starts making funny faces to make him laugh. Oh, right. And that's, you know, if you make a man laugh, that's the weight of his heart. Oh, my God, that's what marriage story told. It is much more dangerous to share a laugh with someone than to have intercourse, is what I understand.

Yeah, see, I don't really agree with that. Also, she's mocking Ryan Philippi here because she's using her face, and he can't do that at all. No. Yeah, she's like, look at my eyebrows. Could go this way and that. Look at how I change the dynamic of my eyes. So it seems like I'm sad one moment and happy in the next. How dare you?

He pulls off the road. This is called a smile. Come on, Sebastian. Do it. His head just explodes. And so, and then he, then him and Catherine kind of have like a confrontation. Yes. And that's when he said like, she made me laugh.

And I was like, reminds me of that marriage storyline. It really does. It's very similar. I'm just picturing Noah Baumbach with his laptop and he's like taking a break from writing and cool intentions he's on. He's like, say. Well, that's a part of the mayor's story

that people don't talk about a lot is that Scarlett and Ab Driver are step siblings. Oh, yeah. That movie just got a big part. Just got fucking hotter. That movie just got so hot. Meanwhile, this is taking place in Sebastian's office. What is this room?

He's got like a phone in there, a big fucking dead. where he writes his journal and it's like is this your dad's office that you like kind of dip into when he's out of town or is it like your office? I feel like it's his dad's office. Okay. He's playing, you know, he's like Millhouse like

I'm calling Daddy on the Big People phone but Daddy's out of town. I do Daddy's business but this is when she Hello Stock Market. It's like the Flintstones phone. Yeah, Bada do I like talking to you? Sell, sell

sell. You got it. Dhaba, dapper do. You're the best, buddy. This is when she try, Reese Withersman tries to have sex with him and he won't do it because he's like, I can't. Such a good guy. It's such a fucking good guy.

Oh, but first he's doing some weird reverse psychology. Like, I'm, I'm just going to leave. I'm just going to go to like the south of France or some shit. Oh, right. And like, you know, you enjoy your life. Like, just know that you're giving up on love. And like, you're going to look back at, and like, realize that's what you.

But you did. He calls her a hypocrite. Yeah, he calls her a fucking hypocrite. You're a hypocrite because you turned you back on love. You fucking remember that. I'm fucking 16 and I've known you for three minutes. I'll get over it. Yeah, like haven't they only been hanging out for like a few days?

Yes. It was like the initial meeting and then the old folks home. And then now this scene. Talking about a long weekend here. And it's old 60 hours since you deflowered a child. Get the fuck out of here anyway. fucking gross ass motherfucker nasty ass

I think he's no he's spent like just as much time with that orderly from the old folks home whose real only line is you go on with your bad self yeah sure okay thank you but yeah so then

she uh she he rejects her which gets her even more horny for him and then classic nagging right classic that's a classic bag right um and then they

what's a classic This is part of his strategy. This is his home stretch strategy. What was that dude's name Mysterio? What? No, no, Angelica, have you ever seen this show? It was on VH1, right? And it was mystery.

Oh, it was a pickup artist thing. The pickup artist. You see this? Yes, I did watch a lot of that show because I used to watch a lot of VH1 reality show. Oh, yeah, because of like flavor of love, rock of love. Like, I used to be so fucking into that shit.

I love trash. I mix up that show with those Fox specials where the magicians were telling that's trick. Because wasn't that dude also wearing a mask or something? He had a big furry hat. Yeah, a big furrow hat and tend to have like, I don't know, like Matrix wear. Oh, those damn dusters again.

Sex criminals reveal their secrets. When he tells Sarah Michelle what happened, she's got a great line here. This is one of those, like, she just cannot pull off this line. You had the chance to fuck her and you didn't. Yeah. It just lands so flat. DOA, that fucking line.

Oh, she's also fucking Ronald at this point. Yeah. That's right. Because, like, Ryan Phillips becomes home one day with some flowers or some shit. And, like, his ass is, like, hearing some moaning coming from Sarah Michelle's room. Yeah. And then he comes in and, like, no one's there. and then she's just like on the bed

and a little slip oh, I'm just here I was just like moaning because that's just what I do during the day and then he like opens a drawer under her bed and it's wrong. It's just like in this drawer nice. It's also great because he knows like the score

when he goes up to the door and he kind of has a like clever girl here we go this is our game now we're going to open the door. This is the house we live in I just walk into my step-sister's room whenever she's fucking Even though there's 30 rooms in this house Yes, exactly

Well that's just That's her fucking room It's not actually her bedroom Oh I see That's the designated fuck space I too have a fucking room It has cobwebs in it Because it happens

Fucking wild So she like is not buying You know his I'm in love story And like Then he does have sex with her Right Then like immediately thereafter It's like, we're not going to do it, then we do do it.

Yes, this is the colorblind montage. Oh, that's why he picks her up at Penn Station, which is the remote black and egg white. Are you sure it wasn't Port Authority? It might have been Port Authority. I think it's Port Authority. Oh, the most romantic place in New York. Oh, because she's going to skip town is the idea. And he shows up, yeah.

No, first of all, there's no way it's the fucking Port Authority because rich people don't take the bus. I think they say bus, though. I think it's, I don't think it's train. Yeah, it's one of those. But there's, like, a moment I got to bring up where, like, Ryan Philippi, like, after the whole, like, oh, he turns her down, realizing he can't do it, where he, like, closes the door and he's, like, looking in the mirror and he's, like, get it together, you pussy. And it's just like, what? Like, the fuck is this movie? Like, who wrote this shit?

You are Sebastian. Now, do sex crimes. Do them. You're sexual terrorists. Keep it up, buddy. uh yeah so then they yeah he picks her up at at port authority or someplace they start like making out of the platform and then they go into a bedroom and they have sex and then like he's feeling great and then uh sarah michelle gellar's like here's your prize which it's like this it's it is very

chilling the way she presents her stuff like i don't have sex with you either you weird ghoul like you know what i mean there's a weird way to there's a better way to do that Sean Patrick Thomas actually has the line that sums up this entire film this entire situation perfectly because in that scene where he's hiding in the draw and like he's gonna get out of there because it's getting really uncomfortable

he goes there's some fucked up shit in this house and I was like yeah dude absolutely these white people cry and he's like I don't want to have sexity and she gets really like you know homicidal here about like being rejected which is weird this is where the Marcia Brady line happens

Yes, I don't want to kill myself. She's calling him a loser. Yeah, she says a lot of, like, you know, there, is it that where, I don't know if the Marshall Brady lines earlier, but she says, like, God forbid I exude confidence and enjoy sex. Yeah. It's like, girl, like.

You just got your fucking learners permit. Last summer, what are we talking about? Sex learners, baby. You're a child. Please stop talking about sex. Yeah, again, if she was 25, that line would have some power. but she's fucking 15 or 25 or if this was a fucking

Blythe Danner movie now Because I feel like Blithe Danner is in like this slew of movies where it's just like It's okay for old people to fuck Like if she was doing one of those like again that line is in all of those movies And we fucked three times and I won each time That is sex winning But yeah just for her to be like this 17 year old girl like It's okay for me to enjoy sex

What are you talking about? Your white teenagers talk about in 1998 talk about mouse hunt and modest mouse. And that's it. I don't want to hear this shit. I don't know. I wasn't like maybe this is just me because I wasn't having sex in high school. I'm a late bloomer. Ditto.

Oh yeah. I was, uh, I went to Hot Topic a lot. I was kind of a metal head asshole. Nice. Yeah. No. I just mean I also spent a lot of time in Hot Topic. Man, I agree.

I, I, I, okay. buying t-shirts. I'm also going to admit something. Like, I saw some birds of prey stuff at Hot Toppian, and I was like, maybe. I was like, no, I'm like, don't do it. You're 30. I got that trade. You have like two angels on your shoulder.

Yeah, yeah, and they're both Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. I got that trade coming up next Tuesday, and I am ready to attend. Yeah, I'm going to press screening for it tomorrow. And I'm like, I'm actually hyped for this little Birds of Prey movie. We'll see. It looks kind of fun. I mean, I think she's really fun as that character. She's the best part of that dumb movie that...

Yeah, they took the best part of that shitty, shitty movie. Yeah. And gave it its own movie. Remember Captain Boomerang? Oh, yeah. I remember all five minutes of that guy. Noted Australian potato. Chi-Courtney.

That's his name. So this is when she's like, you're going to ruin your reputation as the coolest guy in school. Zach Morris. And I'm like, what... Who gives a fuck? You're graduating, aren't you? Yes, A, you're graduating. And B, this guy's the coolest guy in school, this fucking weird pervert.

He's such a pervert. Like, he looks like the, he acts like the kind of dude who'd just be, like, sort of jacking off next to you on the metro. Absolutely. It'd be cool if they, like, cut to school scenes and no one gives a fuck about either of these people. Oh, my God. They, like, or they hate them. Yeah, they're just fucking nightmare people. Can't sit here.

Be like, Catherine. that fucking cunt Hey Philippe you jerk it off for what This guy's a sex pervert I'm telling you It's like far as cum Chris Someone starts fucking rocks out of his hand That makes so much more sense

Dude can you believe it That fucking Sebastian he was shitty To the Gregster Oh my God Is Greg okay Oh poor Gregster But yeah like he's And he's like oh no

My perfect reputation I have to like now break up with her to be cool still question mark why in the most dramatic scene possible and like I just got to say it was really funny to me watching like Sarah Michelle like freak out after he turns her down and like say but I want to fuck yes I'm just like wait does that work is that what I should just get in a room and scream it see what happens it's always it's what's demanded that's the best part but she's more like but I would like to fuck That is the way I would like to fuck

That is a sexually aggressive character You have to do it Like Dennis Hopper and Blue Velvet I would like to fuck I would like to fuck It is weird She does say it very strangely And it's like have you ever fucked

Because I'd say it like that I would like to fuck Jeeves bring me a fuck The fuck you ordered Is your mother Thank you And he breaks up with her And it's a really, yes, it is an overly dramatic scene.

Apparently, it was so retching for Ryan Philippe to perform in this scene that he threw up after it. Just like me watching it. I don't even have a response to that. That's just really fucking funny. Just picture. Shut the fuck up. You should be stretching yourself on cruel intentions. Also, like, bitch, I saw that scene.

You weren't stretching yourself. Shut the fuck out. The fuck you talk about Ryan Filibbe, bitch. I can act better than that. And I'm a terrible actor. It's either that or the bad clams he had for lunch. He's not sure which, if he acted so hard or was a bad clam. It was either my craft or craft services.

But either way, I fired it. He certainly did. That director, Cumberl, he said he want clams casino for craft services tomorrow. Ryan, use it, use it, vomit on her. It'll work for someone. Help her. Oh. and so this is sort of like the end of the movie where he's like he wants to get her back

because then he goes back to Sir Michelle Girl's like now let's fuck she's like I don't fuck losers loseers even though I want to fuck I want to fuck I want to fuck I want to fuck well she says right like oh I just lied to you about I made you break up with her just to fuck with you because you were just a toy Sebastian silly rabbit it's like fucking snappy screenplay. Oh, she makes a tricks reference? Yeah, she does. And they have some champagne and when she drinks it, she's like, taste good.

And it's like, what the fuck? That like response, I was just like, like, who does that? That's not a human beings respond. Like, what the fuck is it? Also, that's not how a 17-year-old procures alcohol and consumes it in any kind of classy way. It's like whatever we can fucking sneak from dad's liquor cabinet

and go like chug it, irrespective. in a locked room or something. They're like toasting with crystal. They should just be aliens at the end of this. That would be all great twist. Yeah, they rip their skin off and it's just like fucking lizard people or some shit. It's just goop and stuff and species all over again.

It would make way more sense for the way they're talking, honestly. Because they speak like fucking Kang and Kodos You know the aliens are putting people down here to have the fuck so they know what's going on for biology classes in outer space. Note on that. Ryan Philippe has a just random bowl of maricino cherries

next to his bed. Oh my god, yeah. That's, no. It's got a big label of what we like to eat. Unless you've got one of those giant Rick Dalton fucking whiskey sour mixers, you do not have a bowl of those.

It's a big bowl of cherries. The big word that's a symbolism on it. But like, get a bowl of actual cherries. Not cocktail accoutrema. It's ins, I like gasped when I saw that because like Selma Blair takes one He's like, oh, wow.

And it's a... Sarah Michelle Geller does at one point, like, everybody's in them. It's ridiculous. Regular cherries aren't wet enough. They don't got the syrup on it. Yeah, they're not dripping. They ain't hot. Yeah, these cherries are asking.

Stop ruining Maraschino cherries for me. They are delicious accessories to all sorts of cocktails I love. He loves Shirley temples, leave him alone. Shirley temples, Manhattan. So he gives her... Step up to the... I buy him, dude. He gives her his leather bound

journal. He gives it to her mother. Yeah, because he's been calling her right and like harassing her after this whole breakup thing. I can't believe he's using the fucking phone. And he like shows up at like when the mother is having a party and Reese Witherspoon overhears it. And yeah, he gives her

we haven't talked too much. We haven't talked too much about this journal, but like I'm sorry. If you're like committing all these heinous crimes? Why are you documenting it seriously? That makes no sense. Because he wants to get caught. And at the end

of the movie, it quote unquote vindicates him in some way? Yeah. Fuck this. And also it's going to... Well, it's his burn book is a dead at that point. Yeah. It's one thing to have a journal. It's another thing to have a collage journal. This is a bit... With doodles and it's all clearly just something made by the props

department. I hate stuff like this in movies. Make it look shitty. When they showed it, I paused it and I started to try to read it. And for Sarah Michelle Geller's entry in this, it was like it was saying stuff like like, oh, she just uses all religions

to her advantage, but she doesn't actually believe in any. Oh, that's one of the things that it says. Oh, that's right. We should talk about her, again, very vampiric, this cross that she has. A, you can't give Sarah Michelle Geller a cross to wear in a movie. No. Because I'm like, is that Buffy? What's going on?

I'm like, Buffy dyed her hair and she's like in L.A. again. I'm like, God, girl, I feel you. Like, just escape, man. The Hellmouth is some shit. I will say, props to Sarah Michelle Geller for acting. I cannot watch The Body without crying. I can't either.

Yeah, it just can't do it. It's an excellent piece of television. It is. It's the best thing Josh Whedon has ever done and he will never top it. Because he has devolved as a creator and he just gets worse and worse. The Body? It's an episode. Jesse, the Body Venture?

Yes, actually. Yeah, he appeared in that episode. Yeah, I did a guest spot on Bafi. I was Dr. Love on Buffy, the Vampire Slyer. I play her gym teacher who dies and she has to come to terms with the death of me, her gym teacher. Yop, I was also cut out of cool intentions. I played the horny gym teacher. Oh, he would call it cool intentions. It was pretty cool until I got cut.

Angelica, quick Buffy related question. How do you feel about discounting the first season? How do you feel about Angel? Very complicated feelings about Angel. I feel like Angel is a fascinating show, but it's like it's issues with race are just as glaring as Buffy's issues with race. Even though it has a black character,

please do not, don't. Oh, you weren't all in on gun? Gun and he's like, from the streets and I'm killing vampires. And then his end is, It's like the way his story ends is really fucked up. Angel, like, has some, like, when Angel was good, it was really good. But when it was bad, it was bad on levels that's just like, I can't believe people get paid for this.

Yes, agree. Yeah. But I watch, I rewatch Buffy more because Buffy just means more to me. And it's high, it's like, I don't know, it's part of it is nostalgia. I'll admit that. But I also think it does some really fascinating things with television as a medium. And again, Josh Whedon, you're never going to get better than that. You're not a movie director.

Sorry, Pat. Oh, God, you're not. That much ado about nothing thing of his. It was like on an iPhone. Like, it looked like garbage. That fucking movie is a disgrace. Because it's just like, here's a fucking rich people that are all friends in real life. Let's hang out at my house and just make this thing.

I don't know. Oh, what's that? It's theatrically released and is everywhere now. Well, what a fucking achievement. Sounds like cruel intentions. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to do that, like, hi, I'm just, like, you know, famous and, like, I have famous friends. Do, like, a weird, low-budget horror movie. Do something fun. Like, don't do that. Pretentious Shakespeare thing that you don't even understand anyway. Exactly. Josh Whedon. Come on, boo. I know you. I've seen season seven of Buffy. I know your limits. But Sarah Michelle Goa has this cross that has cocaine in it at all times. Oh, yeah. Cocaine cross. Cocaine cross. I like that. I like that.

album. Cross Cane. And so like she six Ronald on him. She's like you know by the way Ronald he hit me which is not in the movie and I don't know if it's supposed to be. No it's a total lie. It's a lie. She's a liar. She's a liar.

A bit manipulative. Yeah she's one lie motherfucker. He hit me and he also had sex with your girlfriend to seal and he's like and he rushes after him and this is after Philip he gives her the journal this is the end of the movie and she like

Annette by the way the least sexy name of all time Annette I kept thinking like who what what is the name like this doesn't seem to fit a 1999 high schooler I mean Sebastian's kind of weird too yeah all kind of weird is Sebastian a holdover from dangerous liaisons I don't know about Annette though I mean it's all their titles though it's never I don't think you even hear their names it's like the Count do something

Is he Count Valmont then? Yeah, he's the Count Belmont. Okay. And but like, honestly, you name your kid Sebastian, you're turning them into a sex criminal. It's very true. Even the crab from Little Mermaid. Oh, yeah. I've seen him do something.

That guy was a horny crustacean, man. We apologize to anyone listening named Sebastian. Apologize to Dr. Gorka, who we know. Oh, man. Fuck that. And he's quite on the level. But so like, Annette is rushing down. to like apologize or like reconcile with him he's walking along central park and

Ronald confronts him and they get into a fight this is hilarious just right in the middle of like park drive I would just yet there's like cars whizzing by them there's bikes on the other line look I'm gonna fight you let's get into the park and do that it's also a weird thing where like when Reese Witherspoon leaves her super mansion she's just kind of like wandering around like it's really like the spatial relationship between the three characters makes no fucking sense and the fact that they wind up all converging in the largest park in the city like make it a small town

make it a summer in the country if we're in Westchester like the whole time or whatever so they fight for a bit and then Annette tries to break them up and I think Ronald accidentally pushes her into the street and then Sebastian jumps in front of a cab and he goes up dude oh yeah he gets some hype

this cab it takes like when I I haven't seen this movie since it like came out and I was just like wait no he's not dead he sees him and he honks but he's I'm not going to stop doing tiny and then it keeps caught

yeah it's like that's seen in Austin Powers where the steamrollers whatever and it's just like no but I won't get out of the way he gets hit and then he dies yes I have to say I remembered this completely differently

and this was like the testament I've not seen this movie in a long ass time I remembered him getting hit by a car is in front of the church where like the funeral is like I thought that whole thing was like the end of the movie

for some reason and I also had this big totally fake obviously incorrect memory of Sarah Michelle was the one driving the car like he's the fucking

great Gatsby or something it would make a way better it would also the Wicked Witch of the East fucking music came in when she did it yes that was playing in

So this fucking baby dies. He thinks he had a full life because he had a bunch of sex. I guess. Well, he says, I love you to Annette. And if I'm Ronald, I'm getting the fuck out of town. Dude, that is the deleted scene of Ronald running from the police because that's like,

it's never addressed. Like what happened here? We just like cut to this funeral. But like, come up. Like that character is completely out of the movie. Yeah. My black ass would have been gone.

Now I'm just jogging in Central Park. I have nothing to do with that. Annette didn't know his name. He's just a guy. Oh, that's right. They never crossed paths. Again, that's why they should have had some big party scenes so people could know each other. Also, like, big party scenes and, like, high school movies are so much fun.

Yeah, totally. I never went to parties in high school, but it helped me imagine. Well, it's like, you know, American pie the same year. Ryan Phillip, you could be ejaculating and with Solo Cup. There's a lot of gags there. Exactly. I was a perennially unsexy teen. So, yeah, I also tried to envision what that was like going to party.

I went to one party once and there was a bunch of adults there, like drinking with children. And I'm like, oh, I guess I'm not going back to this. The cool parent parties were always the worst. It was like, you kids can drink down in the basement. Just don't drive. We'll be up here also drinking. This was not a cool parent party, my friend. These were just dudes hanging around town.

Oh, no, that's worse. You were in the end of society? I wish it was that wealthy, Chris. Eric walked in on the shunting. Imagine the shunting in a barn. Oh, it was a barn party? No, it was just a house. It was just as a house.

There was some cows in it, but it was a house. There was some cowplay. This paved floor. A lot of people got milked that day. Noice. Yeah, but no, so I wasn't a party guy. So this is when Sarah Michelle Geller is going to give her eulogy at the school. And we're finally at fucking high school.

Thank you. Minute 91, we're at the high school. And she runs into Reese Withers in the bathroom. Best scene of the movie. Yeah, it's like they're kind of, she, like, each one knows about the other but won't say it kind of a thing. I've been there where you know a woman and you're in the bathroom. I'm like, I know you because like you like, fuck. some dude, I know.

Reputations. Yeah, all the time. Did you have cruel intentions towards that woman, do you think? Oh, totally. I have cool intentions. Uh-oh. Oh, boy. Watch out. See, dudes don't talk in the bathroom. No. I mean, it's a bad enough experience there as it is, but if you're a dude

talking, like trying to talk to another guy in the bathroom, shut the fuck up. I am in here to use the restroom and leave. At my old office. They were bathroom talkers. Just chatter boxes in the can? Big time. Yeah, I had to stop using urinals. Oh, wow.

I'm sorry. No, well, now I urine at home. Oh, you know what? I'm saying. I urine at home. Yeah, I was going to let that go, but thank you for making the right decision. Is it supposed to be urinate? Yeah.

It was supposed to be. But we got it. Yeah, exactly. All language is, you know? Like, you guys know language. I see and read in like hieroglyphics So it comes out a little like

I'm saying you know bird Symbol Yeah Box I can't even say symbol Circle Circle with line in it Your advance apologies

To ancient Egypt Question about the Coke Cross Sure Because she's taking a bump At the start of this scene You're like wow Coke Cross I recall seeing the cross

At the beginning of the movie because she pulls it out in front of Christine Branski and has some bullshit line of like, you know, oh, when I'm lost, I just look at this kind of thing. Do we know prior to the bathroom scene that there's coconut? She does it earlier in the movie? Does she? Okay. I think I was lighting up at that point. I miss that.

When Bransky leaves, she takes a... Oh, right there in that scene. Oh, if you better look out there, she's got a colch cross. Yep, confiscated a lot of these being a gym t-shirt. You know, Cumbull, you better not give me the Coke Cross. I had some troubles back in the day. Dude, he's called the director Cumboy. Yeah, Cumboy, let's go again.

No, it's Cumbull. I'm going to need another take, Cumboy. This scene is a sticky situation. Yeah, you cast me, motherfucker. You're stuck with it. We're cutting him. He's calling me Cumboy. We're cutting him from the film.

We're calling me Cumber. You know what, this movie doesn't need a gym teacher. It's sexy enough without a gym teacher. Just call action, Cumboy. I don't got all day. Oh, do you want me to give you some respect? Call you Cumbull? Cumbull, Shoup,

good. Reggie. Like that Harrison Ford in that fugitive movie, Richard Cumble. Only I did kill my wife. No, he did it. So they have this scene.

She's going to give this eulogy. She's giving the eulogy, and as she is, the verve is picking up there. Bittersweet symphony. Ooh, cementing this soundtrack's legacy man. Great tune. And everyone is walking out on the eulogy

And she gets all upset at the end of 12 Angry Men for four seconds Boy, you do not realize it until it happens But there are fewer things funnier than a funeral walkout I was he-haw slapping my knee laughing at this It is true to be like I mean I understand like she should be like the last person giving his eulogy But is still his eulogy maybe wait till after Yeah, yeah you can spread the gossip a little bit after Yeah, I think so is this like a sort of

school related just like memorial service or is the coffin there i don't know the i can't recall there's the photo like the picture of him yeah yeah i don't remember seeing a coffin okay yeah well because it's because the movie starts with like that weird helicopter shot over the the big cemetery in brooklyn you know so yeah i'm sorry you'd think it'd be a celebration that he's dead yeah at this school it's like the fucking going crazy yeah and the return to the jedi He was fucking farting. He's fucking sex criminals in the ground. Reese Witherspoon gets a medal.

We have deactivated all of his websites. Yay! Dada-da-da-da-da-da-up. 30 years later, the dead speak. Ryan Villaville is on another planet, and he somehow made this huge army. Or whatever. He wishes.

Someone gave a shit about him. Yeah. The only time to give a shit about him is him playing the straight man and McGruber. I've never seen McGruber. It's fun. It's fun. Roll yourself a decent size number and just slip into the warm bath that is McGruber. I can do that.

So, I mean, it's dumb as fuck, but like in the best way possible. Because it knows it's dumb as fuck. It's a total classic. We're getting that television show. Is that what you're telling me the other day? Yeah, supposedly on a streaming service, Peacock. Peacock, seriously. Not enough for me.

You got to up the end. I'm not, I'm not getting there. Like Picard got me, like, Twilight's own discovery, like, got me into CBS All Access, but now Picard's, like, got me sticking. Yeah. As much as I love the McGruber film, the television. And, like, who's coming back? Is Kristen Whig there?

I mean, no, I think it's just Forte. It's just Forte? I have no idea. What's Kristen Whig doing? Come on. He's going to be in the Wonder One movie as Cheetah. Oh, that's right. I saw that trailer.

I'm curious. I'm so curious about how they're going to pull off Cheetah. Like, I'm a huge... Chester? Yes, yes. You're the Cheetos guy, right? Yes, he's the Cheetos guy. He's the Cheetos guy.

I haven't had Cheetos and so long. Oh, I'm hungry. How about that was McGrueber? It's a perfect pairing. But I'm so curious about that movie. I really... I hope for the best because I'm like a big Wonder Woman fan.

I love Cheetah. There's some good stuff about the first movie. There's some not good... Danny Houston. Yeah. That movie. But I'm curious. It looks fun.

It does look fun. I'm curious, yeah, because it's either going to be a CGI monster fest. I heard it's a lot of practical effects with Cheetah. Okay, I'm into that. That's pretty cool. That would be smart. And that's, I know nothing about Wonder Woman. Cheetah's a villain. Yeah.

Selma Blair is handing out the journal at this point. Right. And everyone's, extra, extra. Everyone's reading it and immediately understanding the context and immediately understanding that she's bad. Like, the looks that they're giving of, like, jaw dropping. Oh my God. better extras there's these three pale white people these like Irish kids out of nowhere and they're just like oh no you didn't do it did you I would have loved it if it was like a 25

minute still shot of them like reading all the way through and then like last page oh my god Sarah Michelle Geller I feel like in real life like she would have gotten over this little issue yes I feel like it's actually not that big of a come up in really yeah not at all No, totally. I mean, by Thanksgiving break, like, it'll have passed. And even the dean or whatever finds their cocaine cross in the journal is like, messy. But I mean, it's like a Graham and it's like a rich high school. She'll be fine. Now, suspension.

I read the Wikipedia for the plot description of the film where someone who wrote on Wikipedia added their kind of their own thing. I love when Wikipedia takes their own spin on things. And then it's hinted at she gets a. expelled from school and possibly arrested for the death of Sebastian due to due to her lies that started the whole thing. It actually says due to her lies

that started the whole thing. That's not how it's in the plot's description of. But that's not what happened. Not at all. Unless like the beginning, unless it's at the beginning of cruel intentions too that they explain that all that happened. But I still don't give a shit

because it's not there. No, it's not. And it's, yeah, and I mean, like, in Dangerous Liaison's, it's a duel that he gets killed in. Oh, that's something. It would make more sense of Sebastian doesn't die either if he got expelled. You know, we have these baby stakes anyway to add this death is just like, who, you know, getting hit by a car? Yeah. Yeah.

In movies, I'm like, okay, so what, he's going to dust off in a second? It's like Russell Crow at the end of LA Confidential. I don't know. So, like, that's, and that's the move. Oh, no, actually, the last shot is, I don't know at what point. Did he die in the street? Did he make his will where he willed, Reese Witherspoon, the car, Jaguar? He got the car, man.

I don't know. I was asking the same question last night. No answers to be found. I think she stole it. Hold on a second. We got to watch Cruel Intentions, too. The plot of that mentions Sebastian Valmont as being alive. Well, no, it's a prequel.

That much I know. It's a prequel? Yes, it's like them. Why call it two then? Jesus, wait a second. So they're even younger and they're sexy times? Adams is playing the Sarah Michelle Gillar role.

Oh, how you do doing Netflix? It was a failed TV pilot or a couple of episodes that kind of mashed together as a movie. And they added nude scenes when they realized

it was going to go correct the DVD. Nice. With different actors? Yeah, did they colligula the situation? I don't think Amy Adams gets neutered or anything like that. And there was a canceled television series

in October of 2015. That Sarah Michelle is in. Yeah, I think the pilot is actually online. somewhere, because I've heard rumblings about how bad it is. Oh, I know what I'm doing when I get home. And I'm like such a Sarah Michelle Geller fan. I'm one of

those people who's like, any day now, she's totally going to get back into acting. She's totally going to do it. That's right. That means the promise of Buffy at me, come on man. I was looking at it today. She's got some stuff coming up. I don't know what it is. I'm sure none of it's very good, but she's got a lot coming up. I hope, I mean, I keep

hoping, because I do think she's actually a good actress. There's stuff in Buffy that like I think a lot of Buffy is elevated by the chemistry of the cast. Yeah, big time. I mean, because there was, there was parts of that show that. There was a fellow times. Yeah, there really were, but I stuck it out.

Yeah. See, I never watched it live. It was all, like, on a DVD watch, and I was able just kind of, like, motor through. I've watched it, yeah, I watched it in. I'm looking at you, The Three or whatever they are, season six with all those nerds. I watched it the first time through, and I've also watched it, like, three times. Yes, like I watched it. I did

not miss an episode. I recorded it on VHF. I had like a big pressure trunk of like VHS tapes. That my mom threw out to like piss me off one time. And I'm still very upset about it and I think about those VHS tapes like in some landfill somewhere.

Buffy. See, I did the same thing with Mantis. You're a huge mantis fan? You're a huge mantis fan. All 10 episodes. That's one tape, dude. That is one tape. Yeah, you put that on, you're rich boy.

It was one tape. Like TV tape, like taping TV episodes. You get all those old commercials. I know. It's such a treasure trove. I know. I was at the University of Syracuse a few years ago and did like a talk with a class. And they ended up asking me like, oh, what episode would you want to show and like talk about

since you like do TV criticism? I, of course, pick a deep space nine episode far beyond our stars. and they had like the commercials in between it. And it was so trippy because I was like, man, the 90s. Which DS9 episode is that? So it's the one that takes place in the 50s where he's like going back and like it's like season six. Yeah, I feel like I haven't gotten that far in my watch yet,

but I've heard of this episode. It's a really, it deals with police brutality. Yeah. He's like, uh, uh, captain's, Francisco plays this 1950s writer of science fiction who's coming up with a story about deep

space nine. Oh, that's pretty cool. It's really cool. And then you get to see all the characters without their usual makeup, so it's really fun seeing them without their alien makeup. And it's a really moving trenchant episode of Deep Space. Armand Shimmerman underrated actor. He's an amazing actor. Really amazing

he was Principal Snyder on Buffy. Totally. Oh, yeah. replaced Tobo, did he not? Yes. Wasn't Tobo originally the principal in the pilot? He was, but he was in the pilot that he got cut. He got replaced with this fat actor. I think it's the other Lerner brother.

It's Michael Lerner and his brother, whatever. David? Maybe Ken, I don't know. In any event, I know too much about the Lerner brothers. I wasn't aware Michael Lerner had a brother. Welcome back to Learning about the Lerner. Michael Lerner, Mayor Ebert from Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Mayor Ebert from Godzilla. Wow. Yeah, that was nice. No, no, he was not in Barton Fink. He was in Godzilla. All right. All right, Chris Cannon. Well, you know when he dies, they're going to show

Clip from Godzilla and not Bart and Fink or anything good. I mean, yeah, so that's this movie, man. Like, Reese Wetherspoon is driving up to the country at the end of it in the car. She's got the original copy of the Byrne book, like, sitting next to her, and she's just kind of like, cherish it forever.

With a smile that is a little too happy for the way. This movie's ending out. Free car. Yeah, she didn't really know that guy, but I got a free car. That would have been great if the turn was like Reese Witherspoon. Oh, that would be amazing. She was the Phantom Menace.

Like she was like the puppeteer of the whole thing somehow. And it was all to get this car. It was her and Ronald together. Oh, yes. That would be pretty great. That's more imagination than this movie has. Yeah. That is the end of this movie.

And we will start with our guests for this evening. Angelica, would you recommend this movie to the movie going public? I'm trying to think if it's a hangover movie but it's boring in spots and it's not loud but it's not that long it's like what an hour and like Yeah it's like 97 minutes Yeah so it's on the short side

So no I wouldn't recommend this movie If you're a Sarah Michelle Geller apologist like I am Then sure dive in Have fun swimming it, drink it up enjoy it but otherwise this movie is racist and homophobic and boring in spots and it doesn't lean into the campiness that it has like in like certain moments so it's not even that fun yeah so no I wouldn't recommend this movie see I would only let it slide as the seeing is believing that's kind of where I'm like I was taking note I've taken I took more

notes for this movie because every little thing I'm like what how would you allow that to happen and I'm just like okay and I remember as much milder than this when the last time I watched it I was I don't remember any of this crap and then this time I was like shocked by it so yet I think if you've already seen it do not go back to it I don't think that's worth doing but if you've never seen this thing you kind of need to see just to see where the country was at at the time it was hellscape everybody 1999 was a strange year Yeah Good year for movies

Still a Hellscape Steve Sadek It's a no for me I think it just It is a real relic of its time To Chris's point It's a historical artifact But it does

It's a little too slow For my tastes And like all the Philippe And Reese Witherspoon scenes Are dead on arrival It just As sort of weird And as much as I know this

to be back to forward it's not worth watching if you haven't seen the night i think yeah i mean i it's it's a very soft recommend in terms of seeing as believing because it's such a weird fucking thing my monocle that i usually wear fell off i was watching this movie because it's just ridiculous it is top to bottom ridiculous it's a trash movie yeah awfully made awful awful awful everything let me ask you this we were able to keep your fez on no i was not oh damn but there was i was i was seated below the vent though so I mean it's kind of a no and a yes yeah I mean I have to say I felt really old watching this oh god yeah because I mean I like I said I watched this movie a ton it was a cable thing so I did rent it before it hit television so I was well versed in this

movie and Chris like you were saying and I think we've all kind of said like I'm watching it I'm like my goodness yeah oh oh how could they get away with that that's in this movie Now they're doing what? What? Mother. Mother, come in here. I was like, I could feel it happening myself. And I was like, now you're that person.

You old piece of shit. Yeah, let the kids have sex and murder. You're being shocked by cruel intentions. Because I think it's a thing where, like, when you're watching it and you're the age that these characters are supposed to be, you're like, fuck yeah. That's living. This is coolest shit. Yeah, exactly. I want a fucking Coke Crucifix.

I'm an unsexy teen. I'd like to see what a girl looks like. I would also like to see what a girl looks like. Someone kiss me, please. I'll go to Central Park. That is Cruel Intentions from 1999, directed by the Autour, Roger Cumbull. If you would like more We Hate Movies, check out patreon.com slash we hate movies. Now, Angelica, tell the fine folks at home where they can find your writing on the internet and what you're up to project-wise.

How the fuck am I up to? I'm late on deadlines. You can find me online on Twitter at Angelica Bastien. That is Angelica spelled in the Rugrats fashion. Bastien, B-A-S-T-I-E-N. You will see lots of high tweets. You will see lots of Keanu-related tweets. I write a lot about film and TV.

You just had a rad Brad Pitt piece. Yeah, I ranked all of Brad Pitt's performances. I almost recommended a very early Brad Pitt movie to do for this instead. But maybe for another day. Oh, yeah, save it. Yeah, for another day. But that's where you can find me.

Follow me and see some fun film and TV criticism, or at least I hope it's fun. Let me ask you this on the Kianu front. How are you feeling about this Bill and Ted face the music? I'm so there. I'm so there. I have a suspicion that is going to be bad. Oh, I do too.

like there's a part of me that's like for it to be good there's too much that you're stacked against it impossible to live up to the hype maybe but we'll see it's a real just roll a number and go to the theater man and just let that movie happen to you

that's what I feel Bill it did face the music and I just I hope that it does not rear its ugly head on this program at some point that's my only wish is that we can watch it and we can be like you know what it's not an episode yeah it would be nice

to be like, even if it's not great, just to be like, oh, that was fun. Yeah, I think it might be fun. It might be fun. There, that's the perfect way to put it, I think. Now, we hate movies. As always, rolls on next Tuesday. There will be a brand new episode, Steve Sadek. What will we be talking about then? Well, pursuant to this episode, we'll be talking about teens giving into lust in weird fashions. It's Teen Wolf.

Ah. Lives from Los Angeles. That's right. But also on Patreon, we got an episode of Back to the Future, too. That's coming out. already probably one or the other either way sometime this month the bonus we love movies episode will be back to the future to you what with the michael j fox connection and all angelica thanks so much for hanging out again it's always great to have you on the show thank you for having me this was a lot of fun yes i like hearing that that's great i had a good time perfect uh come back

anytime oh that's sweet very cool so until next week with teen wolf live from the holly Improv in Los Angeles, California. I'm Andrew Jupin. Even said actress Gavin. Eric Siska. Angelica J. Bastien. Take it easy.