We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 482 - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Episode Date: May 5, 2020On this week's episode, the gang gets Pirate Fever as they kick off the 2020 Pirate-thon with the 2003 blockbuster, Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl! Why did they insist on makin...g this movie so damn long? Who needed to try so hard to make those two goofy pirates a thing? And who's on which ship when? Stop ship-switching! PLUS: We pitch the next History Channel edu-tainment classic, History's Haircuts! Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl stars Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, Keira Knightley, Orlando Bloom, Jonathan Pryce, and Jack Davenport; directed by Gore Verbinski. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program. Wait, we're doing five weeks of what? It's Pirates of the Caribbean. Curse of the Black Pearl. I'm Andrew Jupin.
Yarr, Stephen Sadeg. Eric Siska. Yo-ho, Chris Cabin. And y'ar, we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. This week, we are kicking off five straight weeks to talk about Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
is Chris Kevin
Chris Kevin hanging himself in advance
This is another one of our classic bad ideas
Yeah I think no I think Chris took the
The microphone in the bathroom with him
Alla naked gun
Yeah oh yeah that's a rough one
Rough C's as they say
A dude did that at some
Oh man where was this video
Was some like local government meeting or something
P videos? It's not a P video
No it's a dude he was wearing like a lava
ear microphone and he went into the fucking bathroom like he excused himself from the meeting and this dude was just taking a shit with the microphone
I thought you were talking about Robbie at the uh the end of the jinx oh no no no no not killed them all of course
no it was just this dude and you just hear like and like all the people the meeting are trying to keep together
and then they all just start fucking laughing at this guy and then the greatest humiliation is the dude comes
back into the meeting and they're all trying to play cool.
Oh, fuck.
That's a perfect way to introduce this film.
Absolutely.
I wish there was more farts on hidden cameras.
Real quick, I want to say, it's okay to like a movie.
Like, it's okay to like do like a film series and, you know, we're going to have fun with it.
Yeah, like, let's just fucking relax.
All right.
It's Disney pirate movies.
This is a relaxed fun show, folks.
Also, also important to note this fucking sucks.
this movie fucking sucks
in this whole fucking series
this movie is aggressively okay
until the towards the end
where it becomes unbearable
what are you trying to say there Steve
I never liked this movie
a lot of people around me
like this movie
and I've always been okay
with people who like this movie
but once we get to the sequels
I'm like guys what are we doing
guys I want to say
so this first one
this was weird
and Cabin maybe you felt this too
because this was like
I was still working
at the multiplex when this came out
there's a summer of 03
and so it was like
everybody was fucking excited like working at the
theater it was super busy
you know it was like one of those things so
rewatching it for this it brought back all those
memories but then I was like
why was I so like
hyped for this movie though because I remember
like really liking this one
and then I thought the second one
was good also
and then the third one Cabin I think you and I
saw it at the Regal Union Square
I fucking fell asleep after the first
like half an hour. I will tell you
something about this movie. I was at the
time that this, the weekend this came out, I was
working at Siena College. And on
my break, I was eating my lunch
and I was just browsing it
and I saw that it was expected
to do huge numbers. And I just remember
in my head being like,
pirates? All
the world is going to come into a
theater in the year of our lord
2000, what? Two? Three.
2003.
and watch Pirates?
This is what it is?
I was two things.
One, I'll go backwards.
One, I was at that screening where Andrew fell asleep.
Were you really?
That's the only one of these movies I've ever seen in theaters.
And I was, I was just bored out of my skull when the fucking, when, when all the ships are in the toilet spinning around.
Oh, yes, that's the toilet flush.
The other thing I will say is Andrew Drupin totally had Pirates.
Fever, because I was your
sophomore year's
sweetmate in the year of
2004 when this came out on
DVD, and you were like, guys,
I got the Pirates movie.
And everyone was like, what?
And you're like, we're all, everybody
get your fucking popcorn
out because we are watching Pirates
Tonight. Oh, no, shit. You got
shipwrecked with Gabriel Byrne.
Oh, awesome. Let's watch it.
I remember liking this movie
when it came out. I saw it in the theaters. I was like,
Okay, this is great. We're getting back to like
fun adventure stuff. It reminded me
a little bit of like Indiana Jones or something.
Sure. But once you had like a
Squid Man in those sequels, I started
to really feel the fatigue.
You're talking about Bill Nihy as David Jones.
Yeah, yeah, the Mon Calamari villain
of the next film. I should
say also, by the way, directed by
Gore Verbensky. And for
goreheads out there, our
Patreon offering this month on
the We Love Movies feed is the
ring so that's going to be exciting we needed to get out get off a pirate ship for at least a little bit
the month of may now this is the craziest fucking thing though because you want to look at this
fucking filmography dude uh leading into this movie i mean we're talking the ring which he had the
year before the year before that he had that fucking brad pit julia roberts james gandlefini movie
the mexican oh yeah and then way back in uh in 97 he directed fucking
house hunt with Mr. Bean.
That's a great one.
Is Mr. Bean in that movie?
No.
You're thinking of Lee Ebb, Lee something.
Yes, Lee Evans is exactly.
You're thinking of the movie Bean.
Remember the movie Bean?
I do remember the movie Bean.
That's where he gets the turkey on his head.
Yep, it's him and Peter McNichol hanging out.
I remember Bean coming out in like 1997 and I grew up watching Mr. Bean.
And it was like, oh, they're making like a Mr.
Bean movie? Like, I went to the movies that I was
confronted. I was like, what the fuck is Mr. Bean doing
here? You know what I mean?
It was just like, coming
this. It was just him, like
an enormous
standee. And you're like, hello.
And I'm like, get out of here, Mr. Bean. That's a lot
of Mr. Bean, dude. Yeah. The TV stuff
was funny as hell, man. I love
the TV stuff. Never watched it.
Oh, man. Him with that little teddy bear, and then
like driving his car on top of his car
for some reason. It was adorable.
It's hilarious. Especially when you're a little kid.
I had nothing against it.
I'm just saying I never watched it.
But I was just like, Mr. Beans here?
Yeah.
The one thing I realized about this movie and all of these movies,
and you're talking about Gore Verbinski, who I, you know, he's,
I, you know, this movie, I'm not the world's biggest fan.
I really like The Ring.
I think he's got, you know, he's a good, like, Hollywood director.
But this is a Bruchheimer family production.
Oh, absolutely.
It feels so fucking Bruchheimery.
Like, you can just imagine.
imagine Nicholas Cage walking by looking for a fucking artifact and like another Nicholas Cage and
Sean Connery looking for something else.
We're going to have to get the cult of bloom.
It's the color palette.
It's all like reds and oranges and yellows.
It's yellow.
It's yellow and it takes fucking forever to get anywhere because everyone's fucking around.
That's the Bruchheimer family style.
And the thing about it though, this is the yellow and shit though in this movie, it's all faded
as fuck.
This movie is so dark.
We were just watching it.
And I said to my wife, I was like, can we close the curtains?
I cannot fucking see this movie.
And then we did it.
And I was like, oh, it's still just totally a dark, muddy-looking movie.
I should also point out, my wife loves this movie.
Like, loves it top to bottom.
So I do understand the fan of a little bit.
I did scream at her for like 30 minutes.
Don't scream at her, just yelling at your wife.
This reminded me a bit of the Mask of Zorro, Martin Campbell's movie.
yes it has that kind of like that almost faux
prestigious like this is an important action movie
I say that because I rewatched like 30, 40 minutes of it the other night
and I fell asleep
the classic quarantine greenout but yeah
I remember I remember liking Masca Zoro better than this
but I was younger too so that probably helped I think you're right
because Antonio Banderas is least you know
cognizant person versus Johnny Depp's role in this movie
Oh, you know what though? I was totally, because you guys are talking about Mask of Zorro. I completely, because I'm just done this fucking Vibinsky filmography. I was confusing that with his The Lone Ranger with fucking Army Hammer and Johnny Depp. Yeah, good luck charm. Should we do that after we're done with all this? Oh my God. No, that movie fucking sucks. And we thought like this was long and drawn out. Dude, that movie is long and drawn out.
the thing is this movie there i mean again like i remember you know you were like you andrew i'm pointing at who i
always blame for making this movie uh who made me watch this movie uh you know i was just i remember like
being into it and then just sort of drifting away going away at sea like it's still happening and
like if this movie is like a hundred minutes and a little tighter it's a totally fun solid blockbuster
absolutely and that's what you needed to be dude like the scene where johnny dep and orlando blue
in the blacksmith shop and have
this sword fight that lasts for 10
minutes. Yes. Are you
kid? And like there's a there's a point
where like you think it's over
and you're like that's cool. And then
they're like fighting on top of shit and I was like
no, this one's over with.
This one's over.
I do like that there's a donkey
in that sequence.
Sure. Big into donkeys in film.
It's the bombasticism that won't
stop. It's like what if we kept pushing it?
No, you're done. You've done
you need to do in the scene move on and in that fight sequence they try to set up things too
because it's like oh look orlando bloom can throw a sword and it will lock a door and then at
the final scene where he saves him from the gallows it's like he throws the sword again and it's
so firmly in place that he can stand on it it's just like we don't I would have believed it
it's a fucking crazy movie anyway I would have believed it set up I don't need one time would have
been totally fine yeah I don't need a sword chuck to be set up
I would say something that I really hate about this movie and it has a
to do with the actual movie itself
but this was
around the time where Disney
started really having a full stranglehold
because they got the boys with
this movie. It was always
more of like Disney sucks
because Barney sucks and Childish shit
sucks for most boys. But all
a sudden Pixar and Pirates
comes out and boys are like, yeah, it's
kind of good. And then Marvel and Star Wars happened, they're like,
I need it. Women love this movie.
Like your wife, girls, this
sexual awakening. They love this.
movie. I'm not saying specifically there was all the sudden this opens another door for Disney, I feel
like. I looked up the screenwriters and it made all the sense of the fucking world. These guys also were
the screenwriting team of a million people that did Aladdin, the 92 Aladdin. And it makes so much
sense. All of like the kind of the way this, the movement of the characters and so on and so
forth. It just, it feels very like that. Except like. Without the music. Well, one, yeah, without
the great music and the great Robin Williams
performance and Gilbert Godfrey performance.
And the 79 minute running time.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And that's what I'm talking about, though.
Like, in that movie, it's never like,
okay, now Aladdin is stuck in the palace
and Princess Jasmine's out trying to do something.
Like, the way that they just exchange, like,
locations of characters in this movie repeatedly,
like you're watching some dude on the street
doing one of those, like, guess the ball under the cup game?
Yes, exactly. I don't know which, I don't know which ship anyone is on at any given moment.
And people are fucking sneaking off ships and going underwater to sneak off ships.
Get out of here with all these fucking ships, which is.
Look, guys, it's three ships.
Yeah, I know.
Give it a break.
It's three fucking ships.
Follow the eye.
It's three ships.
Here we got.
Here we'll make some money.
Find the black pearl.
Find the black pearl.
What a dollar.
Find the black pearl.
Oh, white sales under that cup.
There's just moments in this movie where like, Karen Knightley will get kidnapped.
for some reason. And then like
and then like three minutes later
she's not kidnapped anymore.
Like the scene where they, she
and Johnny Depp gets stranded on that island
and you're like oh fuck they're in for the long
haul now. And literally like
the next fucking scene she's like well
nope so Jeff or Jonathan Price
is here to save the day. Guess we don't
have to work. And I'm like well then what the fuck
did you go there for
in the first place screenplay? Just cut it
out of the movie. You filmed and it looked good
put it on that DVD extra.
Sure. I'll buy that DVD and make all my friends watch the ended scenes.
Kiran Knightley's character, Ms. Swan. I was like, why do they name her after a mad TV character?
Oh, wow. Yeah, that's what's her face's old kind of racist character there. More than kind of, I think.
Was that Miss Kwan, I think was the character? Oh, really?
Did I make that out? Maybe I'm confusing. I thought it was Swan.
It was called her Cradle. It was actually a nod to Proust.
Oh, yes, of course.
Makes total fucking sense.
You know, Steve, I think another thing, though,
about, like, why in, you know,
aught four when I had that DVD.
When you had pirate fever.
Pirate fever, exactly.
I think it was just a thing where, like,
I had more patience as a younger man
for longer movies, even when the movie
doesn't call for it.
Like, I didn't have a problem with the runtime of, like,
the Irishman, because that movie,
I think, warrants.
everything that it's doing, but like movies
that didn't deserve to be that long and still
were anyway, I was totally
fine with it. And now it's like
I got no fucking time for all these
sword fights. Because the thing with
this movie. Internet ticker, it is
Miss Swan. Alex
Lerstein. I believe what she's
Lois Griffin now. Is that?
Yeah. Hey, you know what, Eric?
I'll remember to give you
$10 the next time I see you.
Oh shit.
Because I'll never do that
I'll never see you ever again
Probably not
I mean well dude you know
You could Venmo him that money
No I can't it's got to be physical money
We are lost at sea right now
I will say that the problem with the movie
Is that it all
It feels like a hot potato
Like every once in a while
Somebody else has the pot potato
The Irishman only one person has the hot potato
Hence the name
Exactly
Well it's really unclear
Whose movie this is
And I mean like
Because it's like three prongs of, is Johnny Depp, is it his movie or is he like just kind of like the roguish anti-hero that pops in and scenes and makes them fun?
Or is it Orlando Bloom's movie who's a fucking gaping hole of a nothing?
Or is it Kieran Knightley, but no, she's actually a damsel that is just a piece on a board to be moved around.
Like Jeffrey Rush, you want to give him this movie?
I would love.
Jeffrey Rush kind of rules this movie.
By the way, if you can go onto your computer.
right now. Look at Jeffrey Rush's
IMDB photo. He looks exactly
like Junior Soprano. I'm not, it's like
a Junior Soprano biopic.
Ooh, you're right.
Not great.
What is going on there? I don't know
what's going on. That hat is
terrible. And this jacket's
like way too big for him.
Look at this shit.
Yes, James, I had a
hard time playing Junior Soprano.
It was so tough, but
especially the conalingis
scenes. I mean, you know he wouldn't do that. Oh, I totally forgot about the controversy of that
character in that episode. So, yeah, Jeffrey Rush does fucking rule in this movie. I think the
thing is, though, Steve, to answer your question, I feel like what they were going for
was, like, halfway through this movie, like, they were like, you know what, it is the Orlando
Bloom film, you know, I believe some of those LOTR movies were out at this point, maybe just the first
one. Well, the trailer for this was on the, uh, was on two towers. It was on two towers. Yes.
They wanted to get the Orlando Bloom stands to show up. Right. So I think the thing they realized
they're like making the movie, they were like, oh shit, maybe this is more of a Johnny Depp movie.
Because like he gets the last line in the movie, all that shit. But I think it was originally
intended like, well, Johnny Depp's going to play this character. But they had no idea also like
how big this character was going to be. And I think like as these movies go on, one Orlando
Blune and Karen Knightley, like, aren't in one of them at one point.
And it is just, like, the full-on Johnny Depp show.
But I think, like, to your question, it was sort of, originally, it's this, like, Will,
whatever the fuck movie with this, like, big star that's kind of doing this other thing
alongside him.
But then it's just, I mean, this Jack Sparrow was everywhere.
You couldn't fucking dodge it.
This whole Johnny Depp performance is pretty crazy because it's like, it made him so much
fucking money, obviously.
But it also kind of ruined his career.
because it's almost like becoming
like Luke Skywalker at 50.
It's like such an iconic character almost.
And it's also, it ruined his career because it was like
this was the beginning of
you know what Johnny? Just Riff.
Like you know what I mean? Like before then I think
he was like working with interesting directors
and doing stuff and like finding characters
with them, et cetera, et cetera.
But now it's just like, oh man, Johnny is just going to show up
and he's going to do Johnny. And it's like,
dude, do not. It's also what he gets used to having like
a lot of comfort and like
craft services is really nice at the big leagues
Tim Burton's only giving you
like fucking chicken wings
well I mean
in what was it 05
well that's that's a post this
I would eat chicken wings with Tim Burton
just putting that out there in the world
I'm on that YouTube show with the hot wings
oh look that one's too hot
and that one's too hot
Excuse me, could you, could you give me the ghost peppers?
Oh, this one's rotten. It's a frank and wingy.
The only thing I can eat, could you just put ketchup on a chicken wing?
Oh, that was that old boy.
Now I want to search YouTube for ketchup on a chicken wing to see what crazy shit pops up.
His, um, his early part of the 21st century was interesting because,
it's like
he's in he's got that role before
night falls and then the fucking
shock a la remake there
in 2000 and then like
blow in 2001
which is a movie I guarantee doesn't hold up
but I was obsessed with that fucking movie
when it came out I thought it was the coolest movie
Hangover movie Central
it is one of the great
hangover movie I was always just like
alright with the movie if it was on it was on
I never really I wasn't out to see
going out blow. It was like Goodfellas
for babies. I think it got more credit than it
deserved because it was right around when Ted
Demi died. Everybody was like, oh, he went out
on top, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. He went out on top.
Yeah, totally. But then the role he had
right before this Jack Sparrow
was that fucking From Hell movie.
Right. That's a state tune
to the half and a half. Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, and like, that's the thing
is he was like this guy. I mean, and
you know, Ninth Gate is around.
here so's fear and loathing i think it's like 99 i want to say uh a movie i was obsessed with at the
time and all that yeah that was 98 ninth gate was 99 so he's hollow 99 yeah and all these are
like you know just like movies that he's in that mostly hold up and then you know again it turns
into this then this is there's a direct line from this to what's that morcock or what mordecai mortaicke
Mordecai, Mordecai, that movie, I was dumbfounded and how terrible that movie is.
By the way, shout out to Michael Morkock, great fantasy novelist.
That's what I was, I was trying to cast Johnny Depp in the biopic, dude.
Morcoq, the movie.
That'd be good, man.
I think the way that the slasher's should have never left the 80s, Depp should have never left the 90s.
Yeah.
That was really like only.
as of very recently does he
seem to be, he's doing a movie with the guy
who did Embrace of the Serpent
and Birds of Passage.
Oh, really?
Him, it's him and Patinson are together
for this movie. I don't know if it's coming out now,
but, you know, it was supposed
to come out this year.
So he might have been going back to it, but like, the last
what, two decades, has
been a disaster.
Personally, professionally,
just a disaster.
so yeah i mean you know whatever we don't have to go through this movie because like you know
i feel 60% of this is just sword fights which aren't really interesting to talk about but i did
not recall this prologue you don't need it you totally don't need it nope i was like her as a kid
yeah yeah the two of them like meeting his children and you've got fucking jonathan price
they're also fucking eerily you've got this commodore uh yeah by what's his face
Jack Davenport
which is actually his real name
not the character name
because it sounds like the character name
definitely could be yeah
I didn't put it together
I was like wait a second
so this dude
also so okay
to kind of backtrack but not
this sort of lumps into another question
of how fucking old
is Karen Knightley's character supposed to be
great question because we have this girl
and then this fucking
Norrington is there on this ship
as a grown ass man
in this prologue
and then when we get to the present time in the story
this dude is still a grown
ass man and now that little girl's Kieran
Knightley and he's like yes I want to marry
you. It seems totally normal
I mean we hear news stories
about this all the time
every day I remember her saying
it was eight years prior
right which is insane though because
like that little girl
in the prolog is like what like
10 years old? Yeah well no she's
no actually Kieran Ali is 18 in
when this movie came out.
Oh, really? Okay, so she's 18.
No, really? Wow.
And No, Norenton is 38.
And I just love
at some point in this eight-year time frame
Jonathan Price's character,
the governor, decides between this black wig
he has, this black Captain Hook wig
for the more staid gray wig
he wears for most of the film.
Absolutely, June. That's a decision.
No gentlemanly wig wearer comes too lightly.
You have to be forced to it
You have to have your friends
Have to tell you like
Oh don't you think it's a little silly
To have that black wig on
Do you think he keeps it just for old times
Like he wears it around his bedroom
For the ladies
Do you want the governor
Or the governor's son
Or the generalissimo
We're gonna make fun of this
18 to 36 relationship
But like honestly at the time
This was an August to August relationship
as it stood.
I want to drop the DeCaprio, dude.
Quick hot take for the room.
I mean, people listening might agree with me, maybe not.
But I kind of like that this movie takes its time to start
and kind of establishes the world and it feels lived in.
And it does, it is long.
What I don't like is that the action scenes towards the end take forever.
I kind of agree with you.
I mean, I do think this movie takes a little long to get going.
I kind of want to just get to where we're going.
But I do agree.
like i i prefer that to the overly bloated action who's carrying the pot potato at the last hour
and a half of the movie yeah and i think the other thing too is like it is i'm fine sitting with
like the first whatever this is like 45 minutes of this movie um because at least johnny
dep like strolls in early on and you're not just sitting around with fucking orlando bloom who
you know i thought i liked that dude but now thinking about
back like why i mean honestly what like i know people like him in those lord of the rings movies
i am i am one of the people out there that just thinks that those movies are totally fine
that kind of shit just doesn't do it for me like i know you guys like the game of thrones a lot more
and whatever but like i you know they're fine and he's i guess fine in them but like why did
i care this much about fucking orlando bloom i don't know why you did me because you're watching
too much access hollywood
good be i i funny enough like even though i like fantasy shit i have only seen the lord of the rings
movies once when they were in theaters original the first time i've never seen them again since
and i've been meaning to go back and i feel like it could help especially with this rewatch to do my
critical reappraisal of orlando bloom i like i like all those movies i really i actually really
like them they're their their total hangover movies anytime anytime t and t's got the the marathon going
I'll stick around for 40 minutes.
But the thing is, Orlando Bloom kind of has an Arnold Schwartz.
He's kind of playing a Terminator in that movie.
It's robotic, but it's like, oh, he's an elf, so it's okay.
Because, like, he doesn't talk a lot, right?
Yes, exactly.
It's a big terminator.
I'm going to need your horse.
I'm going to need your tunic, and I'm going to need your long bow.
And, dude, looking back, I know they wanted to cast it with, like, a certain kind of actor.
But honestly, kind of a misstep, not having Arnold.
in those L-O-T-R movies
You're going to play one of the walking trees
Austrinos. He designed the king
elf, yes.
King of the Elves soon,
exactly. That is right.
I am making out
with Kate Blanchett
the Queen of the Elves. We're all
having sex. We're coming. It's terrific.
We come in the mure pool.
I come in the forest.
I come in the trunk of the tree.
I come in the pond.
And then the tree can play.
Oh, you came on my feet!
It really needed Arnold walking around, jerking off coming on stuff.
It's true. It would have been a much better trilogy.
I will say about the world building.
Like, I get that, and I like that it does.
Like, I could take it if it was in the town, and I was learning the town.
But, like, the world building is literally on a ship that we never see again.
Cabin, you are in that
fucking port city for like the first
fucking hour of the movie. Are you kidding me?
Well, I'm saying I want that
the preamble I still think should be cut.
Oh, absolutely. Although we would lose
a fucking hilarious line. Because like the movie
opens with this little girl
it's the younger Karen Knightley like singing
La Dada Pirates Life of Me or whatever the fuck.
And that guy with the great general
Burnside sideburns
goes like he's fucking yells at her.
And then, you know, Norrington or Jonathan Price is like,
excuse me, that's a child.
And he goes, yeah, when she was singing about pirates.
Fucking great line.
There's another great part about this scene where they've discovered a burning boat or whatever.
And it seems to be such a fucking surprise.
Yes, yeah.
It's like, I thought boats were slow.
That happens a lot of this movie where it's like, ha, a boat.
It's like, I don't know.
You saw it.
It's the fucking horizon, dude.
It's everywhere.
And Price comes out going like, maybe it blew up on itself.
That's kind of great because they're like, oh, man, pirates definitely did this.
And he's like, now, now, now, let's not jump to any conclusions.
Maybe the boat just exploded.
Of course.
Boats explode all the time.
It could be one of those meth boats you hear about.
Someone was cooking on that boat.
Ah, shit.
It's going to spill again.
And the only thing you need to fucking get out of this prologue is that little boy is washed up.
on a little piece of wood it's young Orlando Bloom he's got a fucking pirate
medallion around his neck Kira Knightley steals it bang bang boom welcome to
pirates of the Caribbean really sticky fingers on this little little fucking rich girl
here I'll tell you that much she's rich that's how they stay rich dude is he's working
class boy in the water then rob them honestly dude who's the real fucking pirate in
this movie Jonathan Price or the pirates thank you big fucking Billy Turner must
have super glued him to this rap because it is holding him up
despite him slipping into the water.
Oh, yeah, it's a motion picture.
Oh, yes, okay.
It's good to know.
Thank you, Eric.
Forget about that one important detail.
Nothing makes sense.
We should abandon all hope.
Let's go back to nitpicking it uselessly.
No, but I do think, I mean, that is the thing about this movie
that always kind of rub me the wrong way.
And I know, yes, Eric, it is a motion picture.
But it is a movie that will never stop letting you know it's a movie.
It's winking the entire time.
wants to draw you in and make you worry about any of these characters, which makes those
incredibly long action scenes all the more tedious. It's like, I know everyone's going to be fine,
so let's just go. To it, to it. At some point, right before they put Kura Knightley and
Jack Sparrow on the island, some guy says, this is taking too long. And there's 45
Five fucking minutes left.
So yeah, she wakes up and she's like, it's a brand new day and she's got to meet.
She's being like sold off to captain, whatever the fuck his name is.
Well, dude, it's so, it's fucking terrible.
It's like, oh, hey, Karen Knightley, are you still asleep?
Wake up at the crack at dawn to go watch this dude's fucking promotion ceremony.
Great use of everyone's time.
Watching this asshole get a promotion to Commodore.
What else is there to do?
in this fucking town, right?
I don't know, man.
Drink rum and jerk off.
Go swimming?
She's living under the boot
of Jonathan Price there.
It's a fucking tiny little boot, dude.
It's a pirate's life for me.
I just drink rum and jerk off all day.
I would be a great pirate.
I'm being a pirate right now.
Wait, how much are you being a pirate?
Just the first part about drinking.
Okay, okay.
This is a secret joy call.
Oh, God.
Oh, man.
All right there, Mr. Cabin.
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I'm imagining a J-O-I video
That's like
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And it's just like
Well, why wouldn't I take my pants off?
Do you?
you see that boring film The Wife
with me, an old what's her name?
Who was my wife, Glenn Close?
Well, in that movie,
no one's jerking anyone off.
And that was the problem.
You know, in Brazil, there was a lot of papers
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We regret to inform you that the Jonathan Price
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Oh, man.
Oh, dude, Masterclass Jonathan Price teaches you had a jerk off.
I was going to say it was still just about jerked off.
Honestly, it would probably be better than those fucking regular master class things.
At least you wouldn't be pissing your money away.
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I'm just waiting for, I'm
counting the days before the fucking
feds raid the master,
the master class offices for being
the scam that it is. It's going to happen. It's like
Trump University, man. Are you fucking kidding
me with these master class things? Get
out of here. It's nice
to see Spike Lee getting paid, though, because like, you know
they all got, got it, did it, and
then left. I guess so, dude.
but Jesus Christ.
Hasn't everyone been on that?
Like, Werner Herzog
teaches you how to be weird.
Yeah.
There was like an Aaron Sorkin
like teaches you how to write like an asshole.
I was like,
I don't want to take that class.
The most classless thing ever,
and I'm a big Neil Gaiman fan,
the most classless thing I've ever seen
Neil Gaiman do is somebody was like,
hey, Neil Gaiman,
I can't afford your master class,
but I really want to learn how to write from you.
And he like retweeted it and was like,
Can we raise the funds to get out of my master class?
I'm like, you fucking dick, dude.
That sucks.
Do you know what happened, dude?
Did you follow up?
I mean, I think she got the money because someone's like,
oh, she needs to know how to write about dreams.
But is Neil okay?
Like, it seems like he's in financial straits.
I think him and his wife are doing just fine.
I guess my bathroom isn't spooky enough.
I need three more of them.
So whatever the fuck, man.
She puts on a corset,
is actually very important for this. And I think it's doing something for somebody, by the way.
It looked like he was doing something where Jonathan Price in this scene, to be totally honest with you.
Because the thing is, like, it cuts off her airflow, you know, a nice little, little dig at corsets here.
And like, you know, and the fashion at the time. And she passes out at this party and falls under the water,
which is how Jack Sparrow comes to save the day. Right. Because he's, he kind of has, I think,
a great entrance into this movie
I love that he's on this little
fucking shitty skiff that's sinking
and like he's standing
on the top of the post like right
as it gets to the dock and sit like it's just
it's a nice introduction to a character
it is a really cool introduction to a character
but then it runs right into the wall
of the problems of this movie which is
the two characters I got it and I really got it
that really like have to interrogate him
and tell all these jokes
he has he circle talks them
and it's almost like a who's on first type of thing
and it lets you know that like
this Johnny Depp character is a bit fun
but this is that kind of
like jokey Disney shit
that I'm not at these movies
for. I hate these two
I forgot about these two guys and I forgot
just how much they're all over this movie
they're in it until the very fucking end
they're terrible and the two guys
that became a sensation
with these movies these two
fucking inept pirates
the one guy from the office and
the little guy from Seinfeld.
Yeah, McKenzie Crook and I don't know the other guy's name.
They reminded me of C3Pio and R2D2 in this.
Yes, but at least with that fucking duo,
one of them doesn't say anything.
Well, that's just bleeps and bloops.
One of these pirates should be bleeping and bloop.
That's the problem, right there.
The problem isn't that it's just joking,
like all these fucking Disney movies are.
It's that it's jokey and it's clearly giving you exposition out the ass.
Yes.
It's just laying the fucking ground where you're like,
I fucking get it.
this is like through these two dudes
we learned about like what the curse of the
black pearl is and it's like this
crew of the damned who
were so shitty they got spit out of
hell and this that and the other
thing and I'm just like man I don't
I really don't care. A captain
so evil yeah the black pearl
is captained by a captain so
evil that hell itself
spat him back out.
It's a good line. I'm okay with it.
Not too bad. Not too bad.
Yeah. Also so when
Kira Knightley falls in this water
Her
I keep wanting to say amulet
Her little pirate pendant
That she's wearing
Medallion
Oh thank you there it is
I couldn't tell which word they use
That all mean the same object
This medallion sends off a little
Like shockwave into the water
This like echolocation thing
And then like an hour later
The fucking bad guy showed up
I just got a text message
Oh my god
I feel like I have to shit
Oh it's a medallion
I haven't felt that in years
It must be the medallion
We gotta go boys
So you know
For his troubles
They're like oh cool
You saved Kira Knightley's life
That's excellent
Now you're going to be executed
Because I guess the rule
On this at this port city
Is like no pirates whatsoever
If a pirate sits foot on a dock
They're gonna be hung
I love their commitment to it
That they do they do it
Even though he he saves her
And then they try to do it again later, which is...
They are really trying to execute this guy, yeah.
That's right.
Any pirates show up.
Get him out of here.
Hang them.
Just hang him.
Look at my fucking big blonde wig I'm wearing.
All right.
You know who pirates are?
They're Mexicans.
They're Muslims.
There anyone?
I say...
They have the COVID more than we have the COVID because I say so.
We're shutting down the ports.
We're shutting down all the ports, folks.
If you watch me on TV, you'll be cured from the COVID.
Steve, I do have to ask you a question here.
Oh, wow.
With Honkshu Bloom, when he enters, he starts talking about Tang.
Yes.
Did you get a little excited?
I absolutely.
Thank you so much.
When Orlando Bloom shows up, he's a blacksmith.
he gives a ceremonial sword to Jack Davenport's character or for, to be given to Jack Davenport's
character. And he's like, yes, it's a perfect sword. The tang. The balance is perfect. The tang is
almost as wide as the blade itself. I'm like, oh, dude, that's a well-made sword.
Dude, but will it kill? Well, that's the question. We don't know. We got to go back.
But also, it totally, it totally sucks that I thought the exact same thing, Kevin. I was like,
Steve something, something, that's
Sword Show.
Fortune Fire or Fortune Fire
Knife or Death, which is a
superior show, which I'm actually kind of, I'll be
honest, I'm a little worried that this season
of Knife or Death might not be happening
because of COVID.
Well, a lot of those
contestants, yeah.
A lot of those contestants,
I assume, are high risks
for you getting the disease. Yeah, that's
absolutely true. Now, is
is Knife for Death exactly what I think it is, we're
specializing only in knives?
Well, no, it's a show we're in Bill Goldberg and some other guy.
Bill Goldberg.
That's right.
It's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Seriously.
It's a knifsticle course show where in the, people have to take knives either they made or they
bought and take them through a knife obstacle course and no one does well.
It's fantastic.
Wow, knife obstacle course, that's actually pretty great.
You know what show I like that was also sort of a spinoff of this whole,
forged in fire universe
and I think it's canceled now
and it definitely won't be coming back
probably with everything that's going on
I think it was called night fight
oh I remember night fight
yeah it's just a bunch of like fat
dudes put on armor
beat the shit out of each other
wait a second
that's the entire show that's the whole show
that is the entire show he's not kidding
what cable network is this on
it's on history it's part of this
like it's just the history channel
is a fucking disgrace
I learned I learned that fat guys
fall down even faster when they wear armor.
And they have historically fallen down fast.
Tonight on History Channel, Jello fights.
That's the ladies' rap.
And then at the beginning, I'm like, well, you know,
Marie Antoinette used Jello.
Anyway, here's some half-naked ladies fighting in Jello.
What, that's history.
That's history.
This did indeed happen on the campus of Duke in 1999.
There was Jell fighting in the middle of the street.
I didn't say, we've got to get that horny history podcast up.
There is, at the end of Fortune Fire, like the last challenge is always like,
you have to recreate a sword from history.
You can recreate this incredibly nice sword from,
and it'll be like the Spanish cutlass that the pirates used in 1691 to 1735,
also featured heavily in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
Like, it'll also be like, you know what I mean?
We're trying, or like, or the, you'll, you can find this.
in the history books
or the video game
Assassin's Creed.
Today we're making Dragon Scale.
You may remember this from the famous
See you.
So Jack.
So Jack Sparrow is
captured once again
and thrown in the brig
and that night
the port is attacked by the crew
of the Black Pearl.
This sequence kind of rules. I will be honest.
It's not too bad. I have to say
dude, Orlando Bloom's character
will,
almost said will scarlet will whatever the fuck uh will turner turner thank you uh just like his
diaries um those get dark he gets into this fucking fight immediately and not with sword play
friends oh no look out disney movie he's definitely throwing an axe into this dude's back it's
great i love bomb pirate the best oh that dude's crazy guys are like centa bites man they are
one of them is Cano. Did everybody notice this?
I did. I think this was his last role, by the way.
I did not.
R-I-P-D. K-N-O-D. Accidental O.D.
Burial at C.
Did he really?
No, I mean, if this is his last movie, it's kind of like,
no, he was buried in Outworld, actually.
I'm sure he was lovely if his family is listening.
Yes, I'm sure.
Steve Carrell took his whole,
body back to
Outworld
had to Barrier.
What was that?
It's called last flag flying?
Yes.
You're making a last flag
flying reference?
I'm doing it.
You're the only person
that saw that movie?
No, I saw it
and I think it's
incredibly underrated link later.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I liked it.
All right.
Also, a butler gets shot
in the face right here
which was pretty fucking awesome,
dude.
There's like,
they storm Kira Knightley's house,
basically.
And this dude answers
at the door like,
yes.
And she's like,
like running down the stairs to be like, no, it's Pirates.
And you just see this dude like, mother totally drops dead, man.
It was awesome.
That is a good one.
And I think that that's fine because these movies are totally bloodless, which is fine.
I'm not talking about it.
It needs to be like blood and gut.
But like towards the end of the movie, it's just skeletons, which I love skeletons.
Don't get me wrong, but they're immortal so they can't die.
And it's like, well, what the fuck are we fighting for?
Absolutely no stakes in this movie at all.
because like of your big three
of your Orlando Bloom, your Kieran Knightley
and your Johnny Depp, obviously none of them
are going to Davy Jones locker.
And like worst case scenario, it's Jeffrey Rush
and you're like, all right, that's fine.
But like kill some of these fucking nobodies.
Like the only time people are dying
are these when like the red coats are attacking.
Like when it's the fucking, you know,
the British Navy is going after these skeletons.
And the skeletons are getting the drop on these guys.
But like, we've never met any of these guys.
like at least with some of the pirates like you get to know the actor's faces throughout this long as hell movie you're right so that norrington guy should not make it through this movie he's in the future movies not only is in the future movies dude i do believe he fucking becomes a pirate at one
i think in the third one he becomes a pirate because he's like oh care at nightly is this what you actually like pirate dick oh dude she's in the pirate play man oh shit dude definitely out there norrington because
comes cuckbeard.
Cuckbeard's the pirate.
Excellent.
All right, kiddoin nightly, I'll stop washing my balls.
Oh, you need $100 for your date with your boyfriend.
Well, okay.
Yarr, cuckbeard.
This is a million-dollar idea.
Absolutely it.
Absolutely.
The action figure of Cuckbeard comes with a glass that he puts up against the door to listen.
and pull his arms to make him cry.
This is where we do meet Jeffrey Rush
as Captain Barbosa.
Killing it in this movie.
He's so fun.
It's a classic, it's like a fucking C-Captain Simpson's voice,
but it's, you know what I mean?
It's like, but it's Jeffrey Rush, so it rules, you know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Like he's not doing it for, I mean, I guess he's being a little silly.
He's playing a cartoonish pirate,
but you know what I mean?
He's like playing it as a menacing sort of,
whatever, you know, the sea captain
as far as I recall is not that menacing.
He's not sleeping on it.
That's what's really, and like when the menacing
parts come, you do feel it with him.
Like, it's not just like,
oh, like, oh, Hardy Harri Parat fart.
Yeah, because he's a pirate.
He's a guy. He's affecting
the role of fucking Johnny Depp is fun
in the movie. I think he's good in the movie, but
he's like playing like a comedy, Jonathan
Davis.
Yes. Thank you for
remember. You texted that to me last night.
I was so thrilled.
I mean, we both,
they're both suffering from fucking white guy dreads, dude,
and that just has to stop.
It's going to stop.
But boom, bachabooka, baca, bacharit.
Well, there's historical precedence for white guy dreds.
You know, you can remember it from the 1600s
or the movie Pirates of the Caribbean,
Coling the Black Pearl.
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Oh, you cut that
you cut that bang at an angle.
Damn. Damn. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. What a tragedy. Looks like you mixed up your stooge and clearly gave your subject the Larry Fine.
It's bloody raw.
So whatever, a lot of stuff happens. McKenzie Crook and this other guy, they do like a quick Halloween riff with Kira Knightley. She's in the closet.
Yeah. That's true.
Because I mean, again, these guys start off as menacing.
This whole movie starts off as menacing, but you have to wink at the kitties to let everybody know everything's going to be okay.
Well, the second this asshole's fucking eyeball falls out, dude, you're just like, all right, well, that's the end of that.
Oh, it's even before that, like, so a guard opens the door for the pirates, and the pirates put a fucking gun right in his face and pull the trigger.
It's not fucking, you know, Rainbow Road or anything like that.
It's just fucking dry as hell
and he just falls to the floor
in one piece. What a Mario Kart
Maude are you using with blood everywhere?
That's I misspoke there.
So Kieran Knightley, the first
of like three times in this movie she's fucking kidnapped.
Happens right here. Well, she invokes
the right of parlay because she's such a pyrofile.
She knows about all the pirate lore.
Total pyrofile.
Site precedents and shit.
Yeah, she uses a parliol.
she puts money on the tip off that Kevin Garnett's going to get it and then
I would love it if in this movie dude those two fucking goofball pirates got shot in the head
to fucking vestibule or alternatively pirate Mike Francesa she wants parley in there in the back
of an Italian restaurant well all right what do you what do you what you do you you you can't
put money on the on the sheltics right now it's ridiculous
I ever heard.
Look, when you get out there
on the high seas,
the first person you
kiss cannot be Captain Jack Sparrow.
It just can't be.
That's the second part of that.
So she
gets on board the ship and she's like,
hey, asshole, I got this fucking medallion.
It sure looks like something you'd want.
He's like, yes, as a matter of fact,
I do. By the way, the parlay is bullshit.
Now you're kidnapped.
and we're sailing off into the night.
It is important she does lie here.
He's like, what's your name?
And she's like, oh, I can't say Swan
because that's the governor's name.
He'll definitely kidnap me.
Bad Improv.
Turner.
And he's like, well, that's exactly who I be looking for.
It's like, oh, fuck.
Exactly.
And so they go off
to their Isle of the Dead,
which is also like their hideout
or whatever.
and so at this point basically like Will breaks Jack Sparrow out of jail
and they sort of just like team up to steal a boat and go get Elizabeth back is the idea
that's like the that should have been really the only kind of part of the movie
yes and instead there's like you know tons of detours and shit
but I mean like if they just go to get her back and then get her back and then the movie ends
that's like a movie right it would be a fucking excellent 90 minute movie yes
But it's like, I mean, it is so bloated because like Jack Sparrow's in the prison and, you know, the cannon fodder from the Black Pearl frees all the other prisoners except for him because then we have to get another scene, this other scene where pirates confront him and they turn out to be the mutineers that dropped him off.
So you establish that.
But it's just like, it is a lot of padding.
Totally.
So they sneak aboard a ship and fucking, this is the first of a couple of ship switches here.
because Norrington is like,
oh, they're trying to steal my boat.
Are they?
Ha, ha, ha.
They go out.
And then, like,
these British Navy men
jump on board this ship.
And then fucking Jack Sparrow
and Will Turner just, like, sneak back
out of the other ship and just fucking steal it.
Ship switching.
Yeah.
It's all over this fucking movie.
I'm assuming it's going to be throughout the series.
Yeah.
It's perfectly fine.
You never been to an oar party?
Dude.
Sigourney Weaver throws them all the time.
It's very classy.
Alice and Janney's there.
Look, we put all these.
We put these oars in the fishbowl, dude, and you got to fucking fish out your oar, man.
That's a big fishbowl.
It's an enormous fishbowl.
It takes an hour.
You get on the ship.
And then your wife gets on a rope and swings over to the other ship to fuck a guy.
I like this.
You, wait, you become cuckbeard?
It's a cuckbeard simulator.
This is the origins of cuckbeard.
Got it.
I do like the idea of the oars.
You know which one's like, oh, that's a really nice looking ore.
I want to go with that one.
It's got like a little pearl handle definitely.
Sure.
That's a nice looking oar.
That looks like, oh, that ore right there.
That's the oar of a carpenter.
I'm going to be honest with you.
That looks like the oar of a man who has an awfully young bride.
He chose patelli.
And then you die because it was a paddle.
Oh, dude, no, no, no.
Ready, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Dude, he chose orly.
I'm going to, you know, by the way, this is, if you just throw those away, you have yourself an orgy, FYI.
Oh, right.
Or an orgy.
About five minutes ago I was being made fun of for talking about Last Fat Flying.
Everybody is listening.
I just, I don't know.
I'm sorry, I'm sure it's a fine movie, but you couldn't pay me for that trailer.
I'm in the same boat.
Did you guys ever see the last detail, though?
Yeah, I love that movie.
The sequel.
It's a direct sequel.
Yeah.
The book is, well, it's the book is based on the.
sequel to the book. Well, why don't you mail it to
1975?
Get Jack Nicholson in there. Maybe
maybe you got some of a movie here. Sure, sure.
I'm just not watching Steve Carell in a dramatic performance
after Dan in real life.
No, no, no, no, no.
I will say
this movie is not fucking
Dan in real life, dude. That's what it looked like
from the trailer. I'm sorry. I didn't see any
pancakes in the trailer. Yeah.
There's an area of fucking pancake, dude.
And as far as I can tell about Dan and real life,
he wasn't a fucking traumatized
Vietnam veteran.
Oh shit.
Is that why he made Marwin?
Made his town of Marwin.
Now that Steve Grell drama fucking sucked.
I'm sure Marwin and that movie is fine.
So we got a sale to Tortuga,
which as far as I can tell
is kind of like the Scali Wag hangout.
Yes.
It's pretty cool.
The Sodom and Gamora of Pirate World.
It's like Pirate Town, dude.
They're fucking doing all types of shit.
Right when they get there,
right when Jack Sparrow and Lander Bloom are walking
around. There's this fat dude just
double fisting all this ale, pouring
it all over his fucking body.
It's disgusting. Is that a mirror?
Now here's my
question though. So all you guys
had fat slob chugging
the beers? Yeah.
What platform
did you watch the movie on?
Disney Plus.
Did it. All right. So good. I thought for a second
I was getting a classic Disney editing
something out. I must have just looked down on my iPad
at the wrong time. Oh, it's like a half a second
long, but it's like a glorious half a second
that you're even thinking Jabba the Hut
could show up in this movie.
Oh, you know, did this movie cut out Jeffrey
Rush's cock? Because...
Oh, no, that's Quills. That's Quills. Sorry.
This movie, the cock was in,
but they just put a bunch of CGI pubes
all over it so you couldn't tell.
A bunch of particles.
If they went the other direction, they had
a whole, like, banner section, like,
cock classics. It's like
Bad Lieutenant,
quills,
the piano. Again, to
repeat. You and McGregor's
career pre-1999.
The film Wild Things. Oh, yeah.
Dude, that's a quick cut, though.
No, not in Wild Things. Dude, Kevin Bacon
slowly gets out of that shower at the end
of the movie. Do for a rewatch.
Oh, yeah, dude, you got that.
You got Bill Murray in the neck brace in that movie.
Pretty entertaining movie, like I say.
Piece of shit, but very entertaining.
My favorite thing
is so they get into
Tortuga and they go to
find Mr. Gibbs, who
and this is one of the more confusing parts
of this, was the guy in
the preamble who was like taking care
of Kira Knightley. He's the guy
who yells, she's singing about pirates.
Yeah. And he has, for some reason,
he's also the best friend of Jack Sparrow
and he's sleeping with pigs.
Well, I think the thing is,
a lot can happen in eight years.
In that time, he becomes a
crippling alcoholic because he's
like, his whole character trait is like,
I need me booze, like all the
time. I know that can.
Yeah
fucking seriously, dude
Here's to all my friends
All my friends
But you're totally right though
Like how does this guy wind up here
And now he's so pro-pirate that he is a pirate
Yeah they are
Well there was this virus you see
And they had us in this quarantine
Was it and every week I would go out
And get a bottle of rum
And I'd say well this is for the week
But then it'd be come Wednesday
And be like well I need another bottle of rum
And sure enough, I'm a drunk pirate forever now.
Time to sleep in big shit.
It's so stupid, though, because, like, whenever it is that Kira Knightley meets up with this character again, she goes, Mr. Gibb.
And then this dude is like, oh, fuck, I'm found out.
But, like, nobody fucking says anything.
And it doesn't matter.
It's not like, oh, you know, like he doesn't redeem himself.
He sort of does DM and not really.
It doesn't matter.
but it's not like, oh, remember when I taught you how to do this, now use it or something.
No, there's none of that.
There's no even, like, he doesn't even really acknowledge, like, y'ar, hello, Elizabeth.
Yes, I remember when you were a little girl in the prologue of this movie.
Like, none of that.
He doesn't say a word to being recognized.
And you're just like, then what is the point?
Ar, have you seen my twin, my twin who lived with you all the time?
Yeah, exactly.
I was the bad boy twin.
became a pirate.
I ate the fishers.
I did.
Yeah, so they pick him up.
And at this point, Johnny Depp, you know, and the other thing, too, it's the double
triple cross.
Too many doubles, too many triple cross.
Because he's like, oh, I'm only bringing Orlando Bloom so I can get the black pearl.
And once I give it to him, he's a Will Turner's boy or Bootstrap Turner, which is a great
nickname.
It's bootstrap's boy.
So once Barbosa sees him, he's going to go apeshit and I can use it.
to barter to get the Black Pearl.
Right, right.
So he's not exactly as noble as you think,
which is a fine thing.
By the way, we should mention Johnny Depp nominated for an Academy Award for this movie.
That's right.
Yeah, I was distracted by the Battle of Fallujah that year, I guess.
Jesus.
What did he lose to?
I'm pulling it up right now.
I believe it was Sean Penn and Mystic River.
Oh, well, that's the best actor.
his best lead actor, by the way, not
supporting. Oh, Jesus.
Which is ridiculous. Johnny Depp lead
lead performance in this movie, they thought.
Yeah, it was lead. The
cast was, or the crop was,
Sean Penn, Mr. Kriver, the winner.
Ben Kingsley House of Sand and Fog.
Bill Murray lost the translation.
He should have won.
Johnny Depp Black Pearl
and Jude Law Cold Mountain.
Call that a weak year.
Jesus, dude. That Cold Mountain's one of the most
forgettable films of all times. I am sure if I
we went through this, we'd find much better performances
than those five, but
probably, yeah. Although I'll
say as much as it should have been, Bill Murray,
still, Sean Penn
in that movie is awesome. No, he is.
And it's not, it's not a, he makes a movie.
Oh, you know what, Paul Giumani was nominated for
American fucking splendor?
Oh, man. The black
fucking pearl, a Disney movie.
Really? It's like a shit of playing a
fucking pirate, PJ. You fucked
it up. Well, maybe I will say
yes to that showtime deal.
You know, I just, you know, you're doing these independent movies, man.
You get nothing doing a movie about myself called Cold Souls.
Yeah.
He could be in a movie called Cold Sores starring him as Cuckbeard, the Pirate.
Oh, my wife.
All right.
How many de balloons you need for your date?
Oh, my God, I can't believe it.
I'm sitting here.
This guy's railing.
my wife, I have to keep my jeans on.
Why are you going to see Davy Jones?
Okay, I won't ask.
I won't ask. I'm sorry. I won't ask.
Oh, man. Yeah, I'd watch that.
Yeah, I would watch Paul Giamatti be cucked.
So there's a weird fucking dinner scene in this movie with Jeffrey Rush and Karen Knightley
where he's like, yeah, I invite ye to dinner.
Yes, I love it. And she's like, yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
and he's like, fine, then you'll be dining out here with the crew, and you'll be naked.
And I'm like, all right, I mean, I'm a bit of a shock, jock, you see.
Yarr, we need you to sit on the Sibian before dinner.
You don't understand, honey, I'm a feeder.
I like to watch you eat.
Now, eat.
He is.
He's like, oh, eat, you like, because she's like trying to eat daintily, and she's like,
oh, you're hungrier than that now.
And she goes, like, really after this ham hawk.
And he's like, yeah.
Oh, keep doing it.
Oh, keep doing it.
Just keep, oh, God, keep doing it.
I got to say, you know, Disney major motion picture here,
clearly a large budget, lots of IRL explosions,
which I did appreciate, a lot of good stunt work,
all that good stuff.
This is the fakedest, worst-looking prop pig
I have ever seen in a movie.
They put this fucking thing down in front of her
and I was like, yep, ghosts did make this.
Because this is a famous scene
where he kind of explains to her what happened
and like why they wanted the Dubloon
and all this stuff.
And it's like they stole Aztec gold
and they need to bring it all back
with blood of the betrayer
to be able to lift the curse
because, and she's like, well, I don't believe in ghost stories.
And this is when he tells her,
you best start believing in ghost stories.
You're in one.
Oh yeah
As he's walking
Walking into the moonlight
And reveals himself
To also be a Skellington
And then you see the whole
Skeleton crew
And it's you know
This part's fun
You know what I mean
It's totally fun
These effects all I think
Hold up nicely for a 17 year old movie
They do
Like all of them like
In the final fight with Barbosa
And Jack Sparrow
When they're like dancing
In and out of that one big ray of moonlight
And they're switching back and forth
It all looks really nice
yeah i feel like they also do too much of it because when you see the whole crew
become skeletons and then they fight and then they fight and then they fight and fight and fight
and fight and fight and fight yeah it just feels like it goes this is when the movie starts to drag
for me well totally everything with geoffrey rush feels good because it's like a full cast
that he's working with and he like is uh reacting to everybody that is on his ship whereas
in comparison when it's just when it Orlando bloom and
Jack Sparrow get their
fucking crew together. It's still
just Orlando Bloom and
fucking Jack Sparrow. There's still
the focus of the whole thing. Well then they do
get a crew together including a very young
Zoe Saldana by the way. Yes.
Yeah, totally. Which
was a thing that like it was one of those like I
remembered it at the time and just like
she's been in so many huge
movies since then that I completely forgot that
she was in this like at all.
But yeah, she's one of the pirates here
that they pick up
back at Tortuga, I guess.
And there's, of course, some previous history with her and Jack Sparrow
that never super gets resolved.
She just, like, slaps him a bunch, which is fine.
He's into it.
I got slapped in fucking American Splendor, you know.
I get an Oscar for being slapped.
Oh, fuck.
What is this?
Another movie based on a small play, no one's heard of.
Great, PG.
You fucking did it again, you oaf!
Well, I feel like PG, you know, he went for the ape roll and it just didn't, it did not land.
So he was probably very cautious ever since.
I swear to God, if Daniel Close draws another one of my fucking movie posters, I'm going to fucking lose it.
Okay, I'll, I'll make the movie with, what is it, hunting a dangerous magician?
Oh, God.
Oh, dude, that movie.
Wait, what movie is that?
The illusionist?
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
I didn't mind it.
Really?
Yeah, it's fine.
yeah so we finally get so it's like I timed it it's 76 minutes we finally get to this fucking barbosa and friends hideout where they're keeping all the treasure oh yeah there's like gold stash island well this is where like they get there and they're about to sacrifice her and all this stuff and I'm like okay so if they pad this out a little bit that'll get you to 9095 minutes and then the movie ends you know what I mean that's that's the thing Steve you're exactly right this sequence yes this is the like the five
final act of a movie
that's a normal runtime. This is
the conclusion. We are at the
conclusion. I feel like I'm at
Jerry Seinfeld at the dinner
with Banya like, no, this is it.
This is your ending.
You got soup.
Pirates of the Caribbean, that's the
meal. Lifting the curse
is the dinner. I'm sorry.
Yeah, dude,
we are not going back to Mendez
for more of this fucking movie, man.
We're going to go back for five more fucking helpings.
I guess, wait, no, there's only four more after this.
Only three, no, four more after this.
Four more after this.
There might be a fifth eventually, right?
Is that the rumor?
If we ever get out into functioning society again?
Yes, I think so.
A movie.
The sixth pirates in the Caribbean.
A movie is not a 90-minute thrill ride.
It is a two-and-a-half-hour fucking drag, okay?
And that's what I want.
What they should do is they should just,
drop Johnny Depp, drop the entire
thing, and just not
make it a reboot, but just do
another thing, different character names
under the Pirates of the Caribbean banner
and move along. You're totally right.
Because you know what all you'd have to do to still make
it a Pirates of the Caribbean movie? Because at least
through the few that I saw,
this is straight throughout them.
Keeping what I think is
a legitimately awesome score in this
movie.
Like the main like theme like
bum bum bum bum butta.
It repeats a little too much for me, but I agree.
It's also a Brookheimer score.
It's like the rock.
Like the fucking racist thing through San Francisco.
You're totally right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is when, I mean, and this monkey has been around the whole movie.
The monkey becomes a big character, I think.
This monkey that you find out jokingly is named Jack later on in the film.
That was pretty funny.
I'll be honest, man.
I'd be so fucking nervous acting with a Capuchin monkey.
You just show up on set and they're like, oh, no, the monkey.
No, the monkey's fine.
Just put it on your shoulder.
The monkey's fine.
No way, dude.
Because all that has to happen is some fucking set person off frame drops a chair.
Exactly.
And this monkey's eating your fucking face off.
Are you kidding me?
Look, look, look.
They only snatch one out of 45 people's eyeballs.
Okay?
Trust me.
This monkey was raised in captivity and was very rarely beat.
Trust me, these got very few triggers left.
Left. Look at these fingernails. They can barely slid a throat. Come on. Dude, and I have no sympathy for that shit. It's like the shit with like Tiger King and all that. Those people too. But I remember years ago, this was like at least at least over 10 years ago locally. It was a woman like Connecticut or maybe I think it was like Greenwich. Maybe Westchester. I don't remember. This woman had her fucking face eaten off by a monkey. And it was like.
Like, well, yeah, you're owning a fucking monkey, man.
Like, what are we doing?
Buy the ticket, take the ride, my friend. That's what happens.
Exactly. Like, you know what?
You're a little fucking your friend's obsession, watching Ross of his monkey.
Like, oh, isn't that cute? That monkey was a trained fucking thespian that had handlers everywhere.
Hey, Mike, Mike. I know, I know you should don't say, but the day finally came.
The monkey ate my face.
Can you believe it? We've been talking about it for years that this might happen.
actually did it. I'm dying.
I'm dying.
You can't let this fucking monkey be with Jeffrey Rush and the
sequels, man, because you're just tempting fate.
Well, speaking of the future installments,
did anyone stick around for the stinger scene with the monkey?
I did. Oh, sure.
Yeah, it's classic.
So the monkey takes one of the
the golden de blooms and now is also cursed,
or the curse stays. I don't know.
We'll see next week.
Well, I think that, like, the way I would
work with a monkey as an actor
is if I'm like, okay, cool.
So then what I want is a red assassin's light on the monkey's forehead the entire time.
You can remove that in post.
But if that monkey goes crazy, you're going to shoot it, right?
You're going to murder it?
Yeah.
I've got eyes on the monkey.
I got, all right.
Exactly, dude.
What they should have had to pay for was digitally removing the fucking sniper's laser from that monkey's forehead.
Exactly.
Because that shit was being surveilled the entire time.
it was on Jeffrey Rush's shoulder.
That's an expensive face, dude.
It totally is.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, so the thing, the sacrifice doesn't work right
because it's got to be Will Turner
and not Elizabeth, so she's got bad blood there.
They escape after Jeffrey Rush,
the second of two times in this movie,
he fucking punches her in the face.
She gets hit by one pirate
and then she gets hit by Jeffrey Rush here.
And it's just like, all right, enough of that, please.
They, um, Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom intercept them here and then they get captured as well.
Well, no, Johnny Depp does.
Oh, right.
And Will saves her and they escape back to that fucking boat.
This is what I'm talking about.
We're just like strategically moving characters in and out of Jeffrey Rush's captivity.
I think the problem with this is also like, okay, so it's a movie about pirates.
okay so they go to that boat
to this boat to that boat oh I can't write
you know I can't write rooms or buildings
yes exactly I guess I have to write to this
boat and then that boat and then this boat
right but then like this is where
there's a moment to kind of mix
that up a little bit dude and they don't
take advantage of it because this is where Jeffrey
Rush is like
uh like all right
there's some back and forth negotiating here
or whatever but they wind up
making Kieran Knightley and
Jack Sparrow Johnny Depp walk the plank
right here and it's it's barbosa being like yeah this is that fucking island i left you on last time
motherfucker you're like that well there you are again and off they are in this island and i was like
finally we have some characters that are off a boat again like this is great but this is the scene
it's like johnny dep tells her about like oh yeah i got saved after three days the last time i was
here because these rum runners used to hide booze on this island right so they start drinking
the rum but real quick before they really get into that scene
Jeffrey Rush tosses his sword and pistol into the drink, as the pirates call it.
The ocean.
And Johnny Depp runs and jumps after it.
And to get it, you want that once you're on this island by yourself,
while with Ms. Swan, the Mad TV character.
He goes down to pick it up.
And it is a shot of the bottom of the ocean.
and he picks it up
and pushes his foot against
the bottom of the ocean.
I understand it must be shallow enough
near an island,
but it seems really shallow
for him to be able to do that.
You're totally right.
I didn't even think of that.
This enormous fucking ship as well.
I don't know if that would work so well.
Just see the boot hit the fucking bottom of the ocean.
It's not a skeleton man.
They had to digitally delete
all of the tourists in the background
who were scuba diving,
trying to fucking pedamanta ray
while this fucking guy was doing
this shit. But we have a little
bit of a detour here in one
scene that lasts about
47 seconds
which is
Pirates drunken horny
in the Caribbean. Yeah man
because the two of them get fucking lit on this
rum and I thought it was a thing
first where she was faking it like
pretending to be drunk with him
but I think she's literally just wasted
with Johnny Depp right here.
and she regrets it the next day and then burns the fucking rum right and dude him having this
fucking freak out about all the rum being burned is kind of funny but this is i mean it's so
dumb because it's she's just like okay i lit this fire all of the british navy is looking for me
because of my dad the governor and i guess my betrothed the commodore so don't worry they'll be here
soon enough and it just fucking cuts and they're on a boat with jonathan price yeah you're like okay
journey. Well, you don't get anything because the whole thing
is like, they build up this island
is the place where Johnny Depp went mad
and all this stuff and that's why he is
the way he is, and Orlando Bloom does a really
bad impression of him.
I thought it was all right.
All right. Different opinions.
I mean, he's not fucking taking
it out on the road, dude. It's not
that kind of an act, but I got what he was
doing. And
by the way, did you know?
Hey, Eric, did you know
that Johnny Depp
based this performance. Did you know this? That he based
this performance. Of a Keith
Richards. What?
Wait, wait.
Did you read that on the IMDB Tribune trivia?
I read it off of everywhere. It's literally.
They wouldn't shut up about it. Doesn't Keith Richards appear in one of the
sequels? Yes, he plays his dad. Yeah.
Oh, isn't that fun? It's so fun. We got something to look forward to
do, don't we? I'm telling you, I told you not to look at it and don't spoil it like I did.
That fifth movie has an obscene cameo that I can't even imagine what they fucking do with this guy.
Now, please, folks, be cool. Don't tweet it at us. Let us get there. Let's have the conversation together.
I mean, exactly. I mean, it's, I mean, like, he, Johnny Depp is eventually just a living corpse who's drinking. So it is Keith Richards. I mean, I, he's a fucking Hollywood vampire.
The name is right there in that great band. It's him and what?
the Aerosmith guitarist, and I forget who else?
Joe Perry and, yes.
Yeah, there's two other dudes.
I forget who the other of the three tenors is.
No, it's a super group, dude.
Oh, nice.
So, but no, but to your point, like,
they kind of like build this up as like this great island
that like things are going to happen and nothing happens
and it kind of is totally inconsequential.
It's like they ran out of money or something.
Like, what happened?
Which can't be the case.
no it definitely cannot be the case
but yeah I just I don't
get it it's very frustrating
I know I've brought it up like four times now
this episode what what
just bitching about how they don't do anything with this
island so the island
it's burning and all and they're like oh
she's like oh miss swan I'm not gonna do the
impression of Miss Swan for Mad TV
I'll draw the line there
she says oh they'll see us in
in an hour or whatever
because everyone's looking for me I'm so important
and you'd think that would not be the case
and this would be a long adventure on this island.
But Johnny Depp walks down the beach
and sure enough, Jonathan Price
and everyone is fucking already there.
It's another instance of, oh, fuck, a boat.
You know what I mean?
Like, again, like, you would have saw that
coming for an hour already.
I don't understand.
Like, the boat, I know.
Maybe some nautical guy will get at me at Twitter,
but, you know, like, it just seems like these boats
just appear out of nowhere and everyone's like,
whoa, what?
Like, these boats keep sneaking up on this.
Also, I spent the last three hours,
watching it get here.
It's coming.
By the way, here we go.
Hollywood Vampires, this is straight from
Wikipedia, is an American rock
super group formed
in 2015 by Alice Cooper.
Johnny Depp and Joe Perry
to honor
the music of the rock stars
who died from excess in the 1970s.
The band name
derives from
that we're honoring these people.
Yes.
Derives from the
Hollywood vampires, a celebrity
drinking club formed
by Alice Cooper in the 70s, which
included but was not limited to
John Lennon, Ringo
Star, Keith Moon, and
Mickey Dolans. Wow, Mickey
Dolans. That's kind of the
surprising one. And touring members of
this band include Duff McCagan
and Matt Storm of Guns and Roses, as
well as Steve,
you'll appreciate this, Robert DeLeo
from STP. Oh, good for him.
Yeah. Getting out there on the
road with the Hollywood vampires playing bass.
No, he's still, you still, you still, uh,
black pearl. STP still fucking, uh, doors.
Oh, you best start believing
in ghost stories. You're in one.
The moonlight shows that they're all skeletons.
What do they, what do they do for singing?
I don't, I mean, it was, but that's the thing because it was,
it was first with Scott Weiland, and before he even died,
they got Chad, uh, Chester Bennington in there.
Yeah. But like, it's a fucking haunted ship, dude.
you gotta let it go.
Like,
you know what I'm sorry.
I don't want to hear
anyone but Scott Weiland sing those songs.
Exactly.
It's also like Queen now has Adam Lambert
as their main guy.
Sure.
I'm like stop.
It just feels like a cover band
or something at that point.
But quick question,
I don't,
I'm not familiar with the music
of the Hollywood vampires
and it seems like other esteemed hosts are.
How is it?
Oh, I don't know.
I've never heard a song.
I just knew that they do this.
It is,
it is,
It is
New Fart Rock.
Oh.
And that is NU.
Oh.
New Fart Rock.
It is garbage.
Supergroups, like, and I, you know, I like enough.
You know, traveling Wilburys have a few good songs or tin machine.
But it's like, it's like that, that Simpsons thing of all the virus is going in the door at the same time.
It's just.
Three Stooges Syndrome.
Yeah, exactly.
As we're in quarantine, if you want to have a, and I mean a good laugh, look up the Wikipedia entry on SuperGree,
groups there it's it's
all of the names are hilarious
it's an amazing
listing of and like
you'll be super groups you never heard of
and all sorts of like wait that guy was
at a super group it's fucking fantastic
it is a tour to force Wikipedia page
the problem interesting
the problem with it though is that there are
situations like the Metallica Lou Reed
partnership yeah where you could have
had an amazing dumb name
that would have had the stupidest
name in the world if they actually picked a name
for it but it's just Metallica and Lou Reed
and I'm like fuck
God damn it
well I guess in a way
like what like foo fighters that's even kind of a
super group it's a bit of a super group
well because he got Pat Smear and then
there were two dudes from fucking Sunny Day
Real Estate were in that band originally
oh and that guy Dave Grohl
yes yes obviously and then Dave Grohl
anyway Pirates sort of like
what am I going to do now
it was a what am I going to do now group
so pirates back to pirates sure we're we're switching boats dude we're sword fighting
oh yeah they they they now uh both elizabeth and will are on the interceptor which is jack
davenport's bit boat and they're like oh we're gonna we're gonna go back case closed thanks for
bringing her back and it's like oh no no no for some reason we've got to save johnny debt because
he's our friend and blah blah blah so they kind of like trick him into like going back
for the black pearl as well
that's how this kind of works
I guess that's the idea
yeah like the Commodore
and Jack Sparrow
go down to Werto
and yeah
when they come out the other side of it
Jack Sparrow is the one
who's fucking like stuck with Barbosa again
and they're getting out of there with
Elizabeth and Will
and I'm just like again this movie is just fucking running in circles
but this is where they're like
I think this is
I think finally the fucking
beginning of the end of it
because this is where Johnny Depp's like
Hey Barbosa
He'll be rad
Was if you went out there before we break this curse
And you become humans again
Why don't you go out there
As invincible skeleton
Monsters and murder all those
Navy dudes and we have
kind of a badass
Barbosa line here where he goes
Gents
Take a walk
And this is, I think, I think
the skeletons walking on the bottom of the ocean
is cool. It is. I like
this part. I also think that like, I need
to be convinced as to what the problem
with being an invincible skeleton monster
is. You know what I mean? He does
kind of say it though, dude.
Where she's eating that fake pig.
Yeah. He can't eat apples
anymore. Yeah, he's like, everything
that I eat tastes like ashes in my mouth.
I can't feel the wind
on my face. I'm like, dude, if you're a fucking pirate
man, and you can't taste boo.
and you can't feel the wind on your face man
like what are you in the game? What's the fucking situation
like what's that feeling? Oh it's also rotten dick
dude when the moonlight comes out his dick turns to ash.
Oh shit. I think there is
there is some kind of line worked
into his little monologue there where he says something
about like that
but it's like oh and women are less
exciting or something like that. His lust could not be
slate like he couldn't like he's always
horny but he can't be not horny
Like even going with like a prostitute
Didn't make him not horny
He's horny
But he can't get it up
That's where he's Ashcock
And he's destined to fight cut beard
My dude just needs some Cialis man
Hook him up
Yarr just the little blue chewy
Ought to do it
It's actually kind of cool
That like Jack Sparrow's like
All right here
Skeleton guys like
Why don't you go kill all these cops
That are after me
Pretty much dude
And then like
this is when you're talking about the color palette of this movie being totally washed out
and like absolutely nonsensical when uh elizabeth swan decides to get to the fray here after a lot
of business she's wearing this red coat which looks super purple because it's nighttime her hair
looks green she looked at the fucking joker at the end of this movie i swear to god as she kind of
does dude i didn't think of it until you just said it but as you were putting it together i was like
yep by the way trailer line right about here right
great trailer
Yes I do
Why don't you take it away Steve
Oh no I wouldn't want to
Yeah she hits somebody over the head
It's actually bomb pirate shows back up
He's about to get the goods on Will Scarlett
He's like I'm gonna show you what pain is
And she goes
You want to know what pain is
Try wearing a corset
Knock on the head
I will tell you dude
You said Will Scarlet by the way
But yeah
I've been fighting off saying Will Scarlet
this whole conversation
theater
exploded into a round
oh that's what you gotta have
yep and that line it wasn't just the ladies
my friend the dudes were in on it too
everybody yuckling the whole time
Chris was right we got the dudes
the dudes are here to party
I like that Chris is just like
the year 2004 when Disney
finally took the dudes
but I understand what
I do know
because outside of like animated movie
when you were a little kid, like, you didn't give a shit
about Disney. I mean, I cared about Disney. I mean,
I will say, and I will push back
a little bit, Aladdin was that.
Aladdin was the way to get dudes.
I think, yeah, I think Aladdin actually
did for me, right. But that was... Duktales.
Dooddales. Dude babies, dude.
I think all those... I think all
those are pre-the-backlash, like
Barney era where like
fuck anything that's childish, I'm a man
as a teenager. But like Barney
wasn't a Disney product, wasn't?
But he was a kid thing. And like,
kid's shit was immediately lame for teenage boys.
You can blame Nickelodeon for shoving that down our throats.
This is also true.
So yeah, this is like the fucking 40-minute fight scene in this movie.
It's exhausting.
It is.
And again, because there's a lot of, there's funny business with Jonathan Price fighting a skeleton hand.
That's sort of something.
Dude, him being fucking freaked out by this thing hand.
Pretty hilarious.
And I don't mean John Carpenter's thing.
I mean the Adam's family's thing.
He puts in a drawer.
It's very fun.
Now what you want to do with the monkey hand
is you want to wrap it around your cock.
You see, you do that and then you go up and down with it.
Up and down, ladies and gentlemen.
Yes, yes, yes.
I'm sorry, just gentlemen.
You want the monkey hand the fucker?
Sorry.
No, that's our thesis.
We're done.
I'm sorry, this quarantine is now finally broken.
Oh, I did it.
Oh, dude, yeah.
Oh, also, the hilarious thing about, oh, fuck, I had something, now it's fucking gone.
Oh, Steve, you're talking about a fucking little bomb guy.
His fucking hilarious thing is she takes the bomb and shoves it inside his skeleton rib cage.
And then they walk out of the moonlight and he becomes a person again and explodes.
Now, here's the thing.
Are we missing out on a scene where that guy pieces himself back together?
Absolutely. That has to be what happens.
Right? Right? Because there's supposed to be these invincible undead monsters.
Unless you could like, unless you bury him across the globe. That's how you fucking take care of this Barbosa fucker.
Like, oh, cool, you're invincible. No, I'm going to cut off all your limbs and scatter them.
You know, if this had like dead alive level of gory shit, like we would all love this.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, if this was Peter Jackson's, you know, like 1999 Peter Jackson.
and kind of thing, you'd be,
you'd be way into it. I just saw
some of those fucking completely
unwatchable movies of his are on Amazon
like kind of restored, I think.
Yeah. I mean, you would at least
get one cool shark death.
Nothing. I guess that's all for the second
one is when you get to sea deaths.
I mean, that's a great point, Chris. Where the
fuck are the sharks? Where are the critters of the ocean?
I think it's the second one.
There's a rad shot.
It's, I don't remember
where it comes in the movie, but it's like,
you're looking up from underwater
and there's a ton of sharks
like swimming around
I think it's when they're pulling into like
scallywagg fuck island or something
Ah never mind
I'm full up I already had a brodie
had a brodie this morning
Well in the second movie Eric
I think you might appreciate this in part two
I believe there's a cracket
Oh I'm excited we'll see
we'll see that next week
I would like the brodies to be established
as like Commodores of the
1600s and they had like a
tit for tat with the local
sharks and it became this blood viewed
for centuries. That makes
a lot of sense. It was a curse.
Commodore Brody
took the last piece of Aztec gold
and now all these sharks are after forever.
And the sharks like, my babies
are going to eat your babies one day.
Forever and ever an endless circle of violence.
Somewhere
in this fight scene, just looking at my notes here,
There's another great moment where a skeleton fires a gun. Yes, please. Totally, man. You know,
the skeletons look good enough for, you know, like you said, a 17-year-old movie, but
I feel like a part of it, they don't look good enough to keep them on the screen this goddamn
much. Yeah. No, you're totally right. I just, the image of a skeleton firing a gun is just
one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. It's one of the best things I've seen
in my life. To exemplify how long this thing goes on for, there's a lot of business with
McKenzie Crook and the other guy
dressing as ladies
and if you are a dad in the audience
your knee hurts from the slapper
your knee is raw from the
slapping. You took me to the urgent care after
the screening. I hurt my fucking knee.
They don't have
bad.
Blue my knee out laughing
at the movie.
Yeah, can't
no, can't play
flag football with you. Johnny, ever since you
Pirates of the Caribbean, 2003, blew me my knee out.
He did their pants.
Did that pair. Unbelievable dresses out of our fans.
Mackenzie, McKenzie Crook has some line right here where he's like, oh,
reminds me of the time we were, like, somewhere.
I don't remember what the exact line is, and it's like, man, oh man, this is rich with comedy.
I do want to mention something, because people are going to comment if we don't mention it.
now apparently there's like an ammunition shortage or something and eventually someone
puts silverware in a cannon all right yeah and it shoots out and a fork gets one of these guys
in the eye oh man that's dumb that is so fucking dumb it's too much it's just too much
like you're trying to sell me you're trying to preemptively sell me on some bullshit straight to
DVD spin-off special feature fuck around and I don't appreciate it I see right through that
It's like the Pirates, Harry and Lloyd, what are they up to now?
Exactly.
It's the same logic thread.
It's only they didn't do it.
It's almost like this was adapted from an amusement park ride and had no earthly business being anything but that.
It's been an hour and a half, but we haven't talked about that yet.
But yeah, this is, it's exactly in a fucking amusement park.
Come to life, dude.
And I think that's fine, but you know what?
That ride is fucking nine minutes long.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's a thrill ride.
It's a thrill ride.
This is fucking like, thrill, be.
Thrill be.
The movie, the thing that's killing this movie is the fucking runtime.
If they cut every scene in half in terms of time.
Yep, absolutely.
I would be like, this is a fucking great movie, guys.
No doubt about it, dude, absolutely.
I'm just saying, if you're going to do that, I want a Splash Mountain movie.
I want a Triceratop spin movie.
Well, you were going to get a Jungle Cruise movie and then, sadly, the COVID pushed it back.
Well, you're right.
Now, Jungle Cruise was another ride.
I believe so, yeah.
I've never been to any Disney iteration whatsoever.
I really want to go now that Galaxy's Edge is around,
but I know everything's closed.
But anyway,
so I have no frame of reference for any of this type of shit.
I didn't do, I think when I,
I've been to Disney World, the one in Florida,
one time.
And I think at that time,
we're talking, let's say,
2000, maybe 1999.
I think
the Pirates Ride
might have been closed
at least when I was there
I don't know if like
for good or something
there was humigation
I was on
I went I went in 2000
and I want to say
12 or 13
I was working
for a Disney property
at the time
so I got in pretty cheap
me and my wife
so we like had a whole
whole week there
we had a blast
and we went on
the Pirates ride
in Disney World
and guess who's there
Cap Jack Sparrow
no they updated it
they updated it
my friend
I want the 1950s one
that's like super racist
Exactly
Oh no
More rum and less Chinese
Like what is this
I think I also remember they'd like
They'd to cut part of it out
Because like
Like there's like pirates like running after women
And like grabbing them and shit
That was a classic thing
Did they get rid of that?
I don't remember I wasn't grabbed
Nor was my wife
No horny pirates
No no not grabbing people in the audience
Oh but just grabbing other
Yeah, I don't remember it.
Yeah, that only happens in the Mad Men ride.
Welcome to Mad Men World, the carousel.
Life goes round and around.
Would you like to...
Would you like to...
Would you like to bungee jump into the credits?
You could use Pete Campbell's rifle to shoot at little things.
You get to drunkenly drive that lawnmower around, cut that dude's fucking foot up.
My favorite part of the Pete Campbell section of the...
ride is when he's fucking getting horny in driver's ed
up in Connecticut.
That episode rules.
Just to actually watch that episode.
But yeah, so like whatever.
Like Johnny Depp is, you know, you're like, oh, is he a bad guy?
No, he winks at Orlando Bloom, that he's in on it with him, that they're going to fuck
over Barbosa here.
This is when Barbosa thinks he's got Johnny Debs him in the heart.
But uh-oh, he actually has some of the pirate gold.
So now he's a skeleton man
Absolutely
And dude Johnny Depp's skeleton man
Looks because like I think it's one of those things
Where it's like of course
For Jeffrey Rush and Johnny Depp
Being Skeletons
It's like we got to put the most work into them
Yes
Like they got to look the best kind of a thing
But they really go overboard with Johnny Depp
And dude it just looks like the Cripkeeper
Yeah
Cripkeeper looks better
It does
Crip people look better
Is that what you said?
I think cryptkeeper looks better
and I guess it's probably because it's just practical effects
Yeah, because it's got actually lights hitting an object
Yes, that's yeah
Yeah, so this was the fight scene that I was talking about
Where they're going in and out of the moonlight
Turning from Skeletons and Not, you know, but again, like
This would be cool if it wasn't the 14th fucking sword fight
Exactly, yeah
I'm just exhausted by the time I get to this fight
And you know, Barbosa gets,
Johnny Depp shoots Barbose in the heart
and he's like, ha ha, I'm a skeleton, but uh-oh,
Orlando Bloom has already reversed the curse,
so now he's a real man and he's dead.
And then you cut to this pirate ship
that were like killing all these British
and they're killing a lot of British dudes.
They start getting murdered.
And I'm like, okay, this is a movie.
This is some weird logic here, though,
because I'm like, okay, so Jeffrey Rush could shot.
Then the gold with the blood hits the chest
and then it's just like, oh yeah,
whatever injury you had is just what you have now as a mortal.
And everyone starts dropping like flies.
It's like, no, no, no, double tap.
This is the part where you kill them again.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think what you're seeing is a lot of dudes like that at the time of the curse
breaking had like a sword in them or something like that.
I guess that's fair.
But you're totally right, dude, you got to be cutting fucking eyeballs out of skulls at this
point.
These are skeleton pirates, dude.
You don't know what's going on.
Mass decapitation should happen right when the curse lifts.
and then fucking burn those heads, dude, just like John Carpenter's vampires.
But you're asking for another fucking...
This is like Sepirov having two forms.
Like, you're asking for another fight.
There's going to be another sword fight.
Yeah.
That's going to happen.
It's going to be long as fuck.
I guess that's the thing is that's why this whole plot could be condensed a bit.
And like half an hour ago, we could have gotten to this and then had this sort of fight with a now caporeal Jeffrey Rush.
Yeah.
Exactly, dude.
Because then, not for nothing, you'd have a fight scene with some fight.
fucking steaks in it. Exactly. Exactly. You know. So
Johnny Depp's like, hey, I saved the day. Uh-oh. Now you're arrested for
being a pirate. Dude, he gets arrested fucking six times in this movie. I can't
stand it. Lifted a fucking mystical curse. Yeah, you got priors, dude. I'm sorry.
So the last-ish scene is Johnny Depp's hanging,
which I'm sure people are excited for, but sadly he doesn't go.
we get to see some bird shit
falls on to the I guess the same
fun guards from the start of the film
dude those guys are in this movie a lot
they're explaining the ending
they really are
the guy's like I think he may as well
have just leaned over to his other buddy there
and he's like well you know we've had
a lot of fun here today
on Pirates of the Caribbean
to just do a catch up
we met Captain Jack Sparrow
we met Elizabeth Swan
we met our good friend Will Turner
they had quite the adventure
a bird just shit on my sheldon what's that a tropical bird
here in the tropics oh no it must be pirates
dude it's like insane how
before this whole hanging scene happens
you're like fantastic this movie is over with
I don't think so 15 minute epilogue scene
and it's another fucking to do
where like Will comes up and he's like
oh by the way Elizabeth I've loved you this whole time
yep this is a suicide note bye
and like runs to
fucking save Johnny Depp
there's a bit with like Johnny Depp
and the executioner
that's not really that by the way
the sword thing that was set up
that I explained earlier
guess what happens
it happens right here dude
there's some rope fighting here
a little bit of rope fighting
and I'm just sitting here
some dudes
I'm just wondering
when the fucking credits are coming
I'm like the dude waiting
for that boat on the horizon
like come on get here credits
I can see you
when is the curse
going to be lifted
the curse of the movie seriously and so it's he's finally you know freed and whatnot and you know
kira nightly is just like oh by the way jonathan price uh i want to fuck will turner i do not want to
fuck this dude uh who i believe is like 18 years older than i am but that's the thing is he
cuckbeard here he goes like because like at first it's like i want every pirate dead
and then it's like well i want to fuck a pirate well then all pirates are all
right, I guess.
It's like, no, that would only make you matter at pirates.
Now, I'm a pirate.
I'm a pirate.
Well, that's what happens, Kevin. That's what happens.
But I think it's a thing where it's like, he truly
loves her, you guys. So he wants her
to be happy. Got it.
So it's like, well, if she's cool, pirates,
I'm cool the pirates. It's like him giving,
yeah, giving her up, like, well, you know, treat
her right or whatever. But he really should have just been
like, you know, the government
I work for taxation is theft, actually.
It's kind of like I'm a pirate
He goes to full libertarian
Commodore Ron Paul
And Jonathan Price is just like
Well my dear
If this is what you want
But you do know
He's a blacksmith
And she goes
No
He's a pirate
And they just start fucking tongue kissing
Right in front of this old fucker
I mean they are living in a future tax haven
Right
They're all pirates
Yeah, and like Johnny Depp gets away
And like at some point
The guy with the killer sideburns takes over the black pearl
And they're like, are you gonna go save Johnny Depp?
And he's like, no
And then later on, oh, here he is, he saves Johnny Depp, that's great.
There's this all this, yeah, well, because it's all this horseshit about like the pirate code
And that's like with parley and it's also with like if a pirate gets left behind like you don't go back for him.
Fuck that guy.
But like pirate code is like college rules pretty much.
Oh, dude, you, you spilled that beer.
He got to lick it off the floor, brother man, pirate code.
Oh, man, I've fucking been there.
Oh, boy.
A lot in common with old school.
There's definitely characters in both movies named Frank the tank.
Yeah, and it's the same era of filmmaking, right?
I think they were both the same year.
I think they were both 2003.
Sounds right.
And so, yeah, then it's, they come back for him, surprise, surprise,
eyes because Johnny Depp, like, to
escape, just kind of jumps off of this
keep wall
or whatever. The very keep wall
that Kura Knightley fell off of.
A little symmetry
for you. Look at that. Now Orlando
Bloom wants to fuck him.
Yeah, exactly. This bookends
at the Orlando Bloom
wanting to fuck people. I'm
sure Tumblr was or whatever
or a live journal
must have been going crazy with the slash for this
movie. Someone hit me up with great
Will Turner, Jack Sparrow,
Slash, maybe we'll read a segment.
Oh, I like this idea.
Oh, absolutely.
We got four more movies to get through.
We got to do something.
I want Sparrow and Barbosa,
if we could.
A little anger, a little tension.
What about a little bit of cock beard?
Like Norrington's putting his fucking finger in your ass to do that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, excellent.
So, yeah, Johnny Depp gets fucking control of the Black Pearl once again.
He says, yeah,
yada yada, the pirate's life for me.
Yo-ho, cut to credits.
And then the stinger scene, yeah, the monkey, the monkey steals the gold.
And I think it revives Jeffrey Rush's the idea.
Yeah, that's something, something.
But I do appreciate that this monkey, man, this monkey like swims back to this hideout.
Because the last time you see this monkey, it's in skeleton form.
And Kira Knightley like bashes it over the head and it falls off the boat.
But this monkey, when it gets up to the little treasure pile,
you definitely just see Jeffrey Rush's corpse
still just lay down on all this fucking gold
It's sad for the monkey because he doesn't understand
Like you
I know I was trying not to think about it
Because listen dude you can finally taste bananas again
Dude you're back
You're back
And then he's going up to his little friend Barbosa
He's like oh Barbosa look
I can taste bananas again
Barbosa
Barbosa why are you sleeping
I just
He takes the gold
then at the end and he's cursed again
by the quote unquote heathen gods
by the way. Yeah. I just
feel really bad
for the fucking like paper
pusher in hell who's like
I just put his soul
with the fire wolverines
okay. Fuck, I have to get
him back up now. Fuck, shit.
Okay. You know what?
Why am I the guy that volunteered to take
the animal souls to hell?
No more curses, guys.
That's it. I'm serious.
Barbosa 2. Fuck. God
damn it. Yeah, I'm transferring out of
curses. This is ridiculous.
I'm putting in for a transfer.
It's ruining my home life.
You know, I wanted to do this because
I wanted to work for Beelzebub.
Okay? That's who I wanted to work
with, but this is bullshit.
Oh, fuck, man.
Wouldn't anybody recommend this way too long
movie? It's kind of, I mean, and you know,
it's only going to get worse from here. This
whole enterprise, in case you're wondering,
is kind of like when you're on a long car trip
and you're like I don't know man
let's just put on a fucking let's put on
a long audio book to get us out of this
this is kind of what we're hoping to do with the coronavirus
but I don't think it's gonna work
exactly dude we're gonna we're gonna hide under a pile
of Pirates of the Caribbean DVDs
and everything will be fine exactly
but no I this is kind of a
it's a god tier hangover movie
because like it has to be like
you have to have been pirates
drunk the night before
because it's so long and so quiet
it's got that stuff going for it
and there are little drips and dabs
Deps performs is good enough
Jeffrey Rush is really good in this
and like some of the cinematography is fun
the pirates you know what I mean like if you're
not paying super attention
it's okay but it's
but it only gets worse from here
I yeah I definitely agree with that
100% because if you
fall asleep during
a sword fight you can wake up
to another sword fight.
Or maybe the same
fucking sword fight, dude, I don't know.
It could be. Yeah, so I agree
in that term that it is a very
good hangover movie and that you could miss
whole parts of it and it will be reiterated
at some point so you'll be fine.
Eric Siskin. Well, I want to start this really quick
by apologizing for violating
the credo of it's okay to like a movie.
I hadn't seen
flag last flying. I didn't know it was
Linklater actually. Oh, yeah,
I would say solid wreck
dude? Yeah, I'll maybe look into it and, you know, I just wanted to say that. I was, I was dunking on it and I feel bad. Anyway, Pirates of the Caribbean. My thoughts begin as such. Of all the things to apologize for. What? Of all the things to apologize for. That, well, that's the only thing, yeah. In this episode, anyway. All right, I'm going to skip a head here a little bit. I think Jeffrey Rush is good. I think Johnny Depp is pretty good. He's a little too much at times. Orlando Bloom and Kira Knightley are just like window dressing.
props to this movie, really.
But I would definitely
agree that it is a superb hangover
movie because it's almost like it was inspired
by the serials to such a degree
that it's become a full season of television
that you're watching.
Right? Like, it's really fucking
over stuff. But I remember
liking it when it came out on re-evaluation.
I did not hold it
in such esteem. I would probably
never put it on again unless I was
hungover.
Yeah, I mean, it's fine.
You know, I agree with everything that you guys said.
I do think, Steve, I think Godtier hangover movie is a great way to describe this.
Although, probably wouldn't recommend it after a night of rum drinking specifically.
A little loud?
Yeah, it might not want to touch the stuff.
But yeah, it's just like, especially if you can get this movie on TNT, the Super Station.
Or, you know, I mean, they're all just like flopped onto Disney Plus now.
So you can even marathon this whole thing.
and just pound vitamin water
until you're feeling better
but it's just
if you fall asleep during sword fights
or when someone's switching ships
and shit in this movie
you might be a little lost
but it doesn't really matter
because it's a Disney movie
and everything fucking works out
in the end anyway
and there's no stakes.
I will say these movies
I think like the villains
are the thing that really hold it together
from the ones that I've seen
and I do think Bill Nihi
also in the next movie
is a lot of fun
so I guess stay tuned for that
maybe is what I'm leaving
off my comments on the first movie
is I guess just wait till the second movie
I don't know but yeah we are
keeping it going man all five
pirates movies are going to be covered on
this feed we got some special
guests coming in to do some of these
it's going to be a lot of pirate related
mania here on we hate movies by the way
if you're not down for that obviously we already
mentioned the ring is coming to
the Patreon patreon patreon.com slash
we hate movies but also tons of
archived episodes tons of we love movie
episodes it's not like we're not putting out
tons of other stuff all over the place, including
on this very totally free
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210, right, Steve Sadeh? That's right.
That's another thing that your dad's putting on to get
you to this fucking goddamn resort
that's taken forever,
which is out the outside world. It's a
podcast wherein on Mondays
we review an episode of Barely Hills 902.
I know the original. And on
Thursdays we review an episode of
Melrose Place, the original.
The original. Oh, yeah.
So lots of stuff.
lined up for you, but this has been Pirates of the Caribbean, colon, Curse of the Black Pearl,
from 03, directed by Mr. Gore Vrbinski, all that Patreon stuff we did mention. It's all there.
Patreon.com slash we hate movies. Go check out that stuff. And no reason to,
to announce what it is, you know. Next week, we are Pirates of the Caribbean, colon, dead man's
chest, I believe. Yep, sure. This is the, uh, Nihis coming to town. Nih is coming to town.
It's a movie about a rib cage.
Looks like, he's got like a fucking octopus face.
It's pretty ridiculous.
And I think a boat straight up explodes in this movie.
Actually, great call.
Davy Jones, octopus face.
Send me the slash with that fucking tentacle shit in it.
Definitely.
That exists too.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely, dude.
All fucking tentacle shit you need or you have, rather.
Send it our way because we need it.
So until next week with.
Pirates of the Caribbean. Dead man's chest. I'm Andrew Jupin.
Yara Steven Zadak. Captain Siska.
Yo-ho, Chris Cabin. Take it easy.
