We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 487 - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Episode Date: June 3, 2020On this week's episode, Pirate Mania finally docks for good as the gang chats about the last (for now) entry in the franchise, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales! Why does Javier Bardem'...s character design have to have so many weirdo things going on? What's with the wacky Barbossa timeline? And good lord with that heinous de-aging! PLUS: We finally get some actual non-paranormal pirate antics! Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales stars Johnny Depp, Javier Bardem, Geoffrey Rush, Brenton Thwaites, Kaya Scodelario, David Wenham, Stephen Graham, and Kevin McNally as Gibbs; directed by Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program, it's finally over.
It's Pirates of the Caribbean. Dead Men Tell No Tales.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Land Ho! Stephen Zadak.
Eric, C-Sysick, rather.
Captain Chris Cabin.
And we hate movies.
Hello,
everyone welcome to we hate movies thank you for tuning in as always and thank you for joining us
on what is the final voyage of the pirate mania here on on the show this is welcome yeah oh no
i'm not thanking you what i'm thinking the folks at home i mean this was a long voyage
yeah it's a long voyage for everyone you're thinking it's good for everybody to have
encouragement eric but jesus christ uh you know we've had some some guests along the way we've
had a lot of laughs, but I am very excited
to watch things that aren't pirate-related
and we'll get to that at the end
of the program. But for now, Pirates of the
Caribbean, colon, dead men tell
no tales for 2017,
directed by the directing duo
of Joaquim Running and
Espin Sandberg.
Glad you took those, dude, because I was
looking at this last night and like, ooh, and what?
They did another adventure
movie called Contickey, which is actually
pretty good. It was like even
nominated for an Academy Award.
I think so, yeah. It might have been foreign, it might have, it might have been a nominated for that.
I will say that those two guys are a breath of fresh air, especially from Rob Marshall.
Yes. Absolutely. I mean, the one thing that, you know, and some folks on Twitter were giving me guff and we'll get to it, you know, I guess at the end of the program, because I don't want to bog us down now.
But one of the things I did notice about this movie, especially over that fucking last one, man, the action is way more competently put together here. No way around it.
The nautical stuff looks so much better.
It's the best it's looked since Gore Vibinsky.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, a lot of the, one of our major complaints is that, you know, through a lot of these movies, it doesn't feel like a lot of pirating moments.
And in this movie, I mean, yes, there is the paranormal stuff, of course.
I'm not saying that there's not that.
But at least I felt there were more moments in this movie where it was just like straight up, hey, it's a pirate adventure.
Yes.
even when like to the point of like in the middle of this movie when they stopped doing the pirate stuff like let's go on our paranormal adventure like can we just keep fucking around st martins for a little while like that's that's totally that you could just end a movie like if there was up and forgive me if i said this before i've had this thought like a pirate heist movie with johnny dep and and you know it's just he's getting a crew together and like that's the whole thing it's like oh tomorrow this is coming in at port and we got to grab it you know that that's something exactly um which
which we sort of get the tail end of towards the beginning of this movie,
but our prologue is the young Turner boy.
You immediately know right away that this little bastard is a Turner
because he's got dad's curse with a bunch of hash marks on his wall,
like counting down the days until Will Turner will be back on land.
And then a hilarious collection of Jack Sparrow wanted posters like it's fucking Harry Potter or some shit.
Oh, real quick, the opening, the, the,
logo pirate flag and stormy weather yes definitely yeah i actually it was a really um like and i guess
because this one is the most recent of these movies it's a really slick super hd version of the
disney opening out it's like it looked cool as hell it looked good the clouds look cool and it's like
that's just enough you know the little pirate flag and some storm clouds rolling and like oh a starms are
coming totally fun yeah there was a train that went
by and then I was like man cowboys versus pirates how about that that could happen wasn't that
Daniel oh no that was aliens yeah I guess this is earlier than cowboy times but the way
Johnny Depp has aged I'm surprised the Civil War hasn't happened yeah dude instead of fucking
1760 it's 1860 well you imagine like like kids have to have jack sparrow wanted posters
up on their well like people have like the Elvis Presley mugshot poster
And stuff like that.
He's been around for so goddamn long at this point.
John Belushi with his college sweatshirt,
checking Jack Daniels.
Eric,
we will talk about the timeline of this franchise
and it is fucking bonkers.
I was like just with regard to how
depth,
you know,
has aged,
you know,
is like $60,000 a month
of wine habit and so on,
whatever that terribly sad profile of him was.
It fits for this movie
because in this movie,
because in this movie, Jack Sparrow
is supposed to be,
it's sort of like
the John McLean and Diehard with a vengeance.
He's fucking washed out.
He's a loser.
You know, basically banned
from being a pirate almost.
You know, like, so it checks here
that he's like a drunken piece of shit.
I'm glad they did something different
with the character.
Maybe the road to redemption
could have been a little firmer,
but yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the thing is he doesn't like ever put down
the bottle instinctive,
like definitively or says,
well I'm going to do it's either I drink or I save my friends well I'm going to save my friends you know what I mean right and it becomes French along the way too
I'm Captain Jack's bell I'm going to save my friends I also I do think that this uh the beginning of this movie shows what a bad mother cure nightly turned out to be because here's the decision if your husband if you father a child by a ghost yeah you have to
not ever tell that child
that he was fathered by a ghost
and that there's a curse involved
that he could possibly break
because this is what you're gonna get into
he's the problems
much much like his father
he's chasing his death right away
he's putting a sack of rocks
around his ankle
dude he's pulling a fucking AJ Soprano
did you see this shit
oh dude fucking Orlando Bloom's
got to have a hot dog in his hand
oh no
I've always loved that
because you can sort of tell
that Tony Soprano was like
I can't believe I had to lose that fucking hot dog
because my stupid son
tried to kill himself in the pool.
It is the best.
He comes home from work,
this surprise episode,
late in the series.
And AJ's hanging himself
in the pool.
And he's like,
ooh,
a hot dog.
And like,
this is like,
not a bad day.
And then he hears like what's going on.
He's like,
oh,
fuck.
Marron,
my kids try to kill himself.
Oh,
you better be here when I get back,
hot dog.
Melfie,
this is your fault.
but yeah dude you're you're totally right
the answer is four words
your dad is dead
yes exactly or
your dad was a great guy and he's fucking dead
I or you know I got drunk one night
at the tavern there was a lot of guys
you give it maybe a Mamma Mia situation
oh totally dude
it's like it's Orlando Bloom
Gibbs
the pirate who had his
tongue cut out but the parrot was there
the little person pirate for sure is involved
absolutely
absolutely. I think Gibbs
does an SOS that brings the house down.
But yeah, so this kid
fucking rose out to some coordinates
that he's figured, and he's like a little kid at this
point, he's figured out these coordinates
somehow, takes a rock,
ties a rope around it, ties the rope around his leg,
dumps that shit, and basically
like, uh, sort of does like a pop-in
to the flying Dutchman is the idea.
You can't be doing pop-ins.
I mean, that is Orlando Bloom's reaction, dude, because this kid, like, so the kid lands at the bottom, and Orlando Bloom is already like, well, fuck, now I have to bring the Dutchman up to the surface because my dumb kid's going to drown.
Henry, Henry, you woke up Jennifer.
I have a new life now, Henry.
This fucking dolphin with a little hat walks out of.
He's out of a school of fish.
These are my children now.
Henry, we've forgotten you.
Oh, my God.
Henry, listen, you go respect your mother.
Why is he covered in barnacles, though?
I guess he's not doing the job.
Great question.
I think the, well, maybe, but the barnacle thing, it's light on the barnacle.
And I want to say, look, you can only be hanging out underwater in the ocean for so long before shit starts attaching itself to you, man.
I decided to put the barnacles on to honor my dad.
and remember this is a dad franchise.
Also, you don't know
what fucking rules they had
about what actually constitute work
on this ship.
It might be like an HOA and they just
fucking nitpick you to death.
I took a day
my back hurt yesterday and now
I've got barnacles on over me face.
And I have to say, so
the last time we saw Will Turner was
in 2007's Pirates of
the Caribbean at World's End.
You know, when he takes this curse up and now he's the dude, now he's driving the Dutchman.
And then to jump in a matter of a couple weeks on the show here, 10 years into the future, Orlando Bloom looking a little less dreamy in this movie.
You're absolutely right, but I think it's more of, because if you look at him promo stuff for that stupid fairies show he did on Amazon, oh, hey, I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, what is this?
it's a show in
just because I've seen this commercial
a million times I have no idea what it's called
Caradella Bean is in it too
Yes it's a show in where
It's like a quote unquote prestige drama
wherein it's 1800s
London E town and there's like
fairies are real and magic
exists yada yada yada
Only Carnival Ro
Yes you're exactly right
Okay I remember the ads for this and specifically
But he's looking like Orlando Bloom in that
And this, I think, is a clear case of, you got me for two days and I'm not going to stop and I'm not going to stop eating pastor. You know what I mean? Like it's like he's a little wider, but I feel like everyone gets wider with age. But I guess you, you disprove it with that Amazon show. He's, he's, he's just a little, he's just, he's been eating. Well, also, no, I can't, I can't throw stones. You know, craft services on this must have been glorious. The amount of money they spilled on this. It's not what.
is the last one. But still, it has to be amazing. Look, you can cut the budget for my salary
and you can cut the budget for special effects and on location shooting. But you are not
cutting the budget for that peel and eat shrimp buffet. But you could cut the budget for celery
as well. I am now sending you all a picture of Carnival Row Orlando Bloom just to
you're texting this over the wire. Yes, I'm texting over the wire. Okay. I'll keep my
eyes peeled. That is good to know, though, Steve, because I was like, that's such a bummer man.
He is a handsome ass guy. But it's nice to know. You're totally right. He's like,
oh, I got a what? Yeah, all right. 48 hours. You bet your ass it's just green screen.
48 hours at all the posture I could eat. Oh, here we go. In from Steve Santic. Oh, yeah, he looks
great. Yeah, he actually kind of looks like Justin Timberlake with that haircut. Look at that.
All right. But, uh, yeah. He's like, hey, dad, you know, I've,
been researching every curse
in pirate lore and whatever the fuck
I know that the way
to help you, I'm gonna
free you from the Dutchman
all I need is the
Trident of Poseidon.
Where does he learning all this shit
from drunk sailors?
Yeah, I don't. He says that he's like been
researching this shit all his life and it's like yeah
I mean if he's getting these firsthand accounts dude
it's this little kid he's got to be hanging out
in taverns and whatnot.
Yeah, there's no books on this shit.
No, like maybe, so maybe he's like a bar back or something.
And again, what is, how is Kiran Knightley raising this kid?
Again, like, no, we're not looking up pirate curses.
You are going to school.
You're going to become either, you know, I don't know what the monetary situation is.
She probably inherited stuff from Jonathan Price.
Oh, they're good to go.
Dude, look this fucking cliffside estate that they live in.
Cliffside estate.
You only see the cliffs.
Do you see the estate at the end?
Well, you see their bedroom at that stupid stingers scene.
I guess we never see the actual house.
You never see the actual house.
You just see her like running out of the woods in a silent roll.
and I'm like, what the fuck's going on in those woods?
Also, is she going, like, it seems like the Flying Dutchman is close enough to where they live, right?
At least it was parked there that day.
So is Karen Knightley going down there and like on an anniversary trying to drown herself to get some?
Well, that's what I don't understand about this whole thing of like he can only touch land every, you know, 10 years.
It's like, okay, then I don't know, man.
Why don't we practice some effective social distancing here, right?
like she goes and stands at the fucking beach and you know you pull up as close as you can without running a ground or hey even better take a little rowboat like a little dingy go pick her up and roll back out in the water get to fucking oh oh elizabeth no no i'm with jennifer now you don't understand
no i know honey honey honey honey please honey honey honey honey please honey honey please unless unless you fancy a three way put your finger in that porthole
May I remind you, sweetheart,
the dolphins are incredibly sexual
animals. Hey,
I, Elizabeth Swan, they don't call
it to blowhole for nothing.
So, and Orlando Bloom
is like, hey man, don't worry about it.
That shit's not real. Why don't you try to actually
just live a life? Hey, Dad, I also
read this other thing where you can stand in a bucket
of water, so why don't you do that?
I saw this in a third movie
that Amy Jones just kind of hanging out in a bucket of
or he go to my birthday party in a bucket of water.
He can live in the bathtub.
Then he can do like a rear window out and like look out of spy glass and see if
anyone in the ocean's dying.
And then he's like, okay, I got to get up.
I got to go to work.
Someone drowned.
But so it's actually, I really do like all the special effects here with the Dutchman once again.
You know, he goes up to the surface.
He tells him to fuck off.
And it's a cool thing of like the ship just goes back underwater while the kid is still.
on it and you know he's just left like swimming by his little rowboat um we are then this was i have to
ask you guys this so we cut and it says nine years later uh did you're um when nine years later
came up in the text did it just look like a totally non-styled like subtitle font to you guys
no i think it had some pirates into it if i remember yeah i can't remember that's crazy because
i was watching it last night i did not have subtitles on
you know, as it was, because I had headphones on.
I was playing it pretty loud.
But it just looked like white text with like the sort of like translucent gray background
behind it.
Oh, no.
And it just said nine years later, it looks so bad.
I was like, that can't be the movie's decision.
Welcome back to we hate fonts.
Hey, man, every nook and cranny of these movies, dude, we're asking the hard questions.
You're right.
You're right.
We're exploring them.
So, yeah, this is when they're, he's on a, he's on a, it looks like an English ship.
and they're besieged by pirates.
Anyone get a look at this pirate flag, by the way?
Two skulls with crossbones.
I think that's a result of a pirate merger, I guess.
That's how that works.
Oh, right.
We're just consolidating the crews.
It looks cool.
Welcome to Sparrow Barbosa.
Yeah, exactly.
Dude, the old SB pirate line.
Totally.
And yes, this is grown-up, Henry Turner.
What's this kid from?
Everything.
They've given this kid so many chances.
He was in the giver.
God's in Egypt.
God's of Egypt.
Okay. Okay. I think
yeah. Maybe some maze running
has happened. I'm not sure. Well, because
this other, the woman in the film is a maze runner.
Oh, she's the maze runner. Got it. Okay.
Oh, and he's also in Gasper No Ice Climax.
No, I'm kidding. Oh, man, I was going to
say. He's on that Titans show, which I still
haven't watched. I don't know.
Oh, the fuck Batman show? Yeah.
Get at me in the comments if
fuck Batman's worth, where the watch.
So yeah, he's on
this ship. They're being chased
by pirates.
And this kid tells it, Henry says to the, he like runs up.
He's like, he's one of the dudes like working in the bowels of the ship or whatever.
And he like runs up.
He's like, I have to talk to the captain.
And he gets up there.
And he's like, hey man, those are some pirates that are chasing us.
But you're taking us right into the devil's triangle, my friend.
And this guy's like not having it.
And this kid's trying to like fucking storm the bridge here.
Dude, he's like a little fucking pirate terrorist.
Well, they appropriately ripped his coat
Because now he's committing treason
And they want everyone to know
That he's committing treason
And you can just kind of get rid of that coat, I think
Is the movie
Sure, you can rip your sleeves
And then, okay
Yeah, I don't get that
Because also like, yeah, one, you could just throw the jacket away
But two, I don't know, man,
What if you fucking fell or like had an accident
You're like, oh my God, my coat ripped
And then everyone thinks you're a fucking traitor
Yeah, what if you get
What if you were walking
along the chain link fence
and you accidentally grazed
it up against it. You'd have to throw it away,
I think. You would have to throw it away and not tell your
mother. Look at all the dead bodies.
Take one of theirs. Great
point. Yeah, that's true.
So the kid is thrown
in the brig and he tells
this fucking old man. This old man
who later has
one of the worst saddest
deaths in this franchise, I think.
This old man, you know, about, oh, I'm looking
for Jack Sparrow. The guy's like,
Jack Sparrow's been dead for years
so on and so forth
but yeah so then they
they're going into the devil's triangle
and it's like
oh there's a shipwreck here
oh the shipwreck's actually trying to destroy us
whoops wait what and this is our introduction
to Javier Bardem and his crew
and they like lay waste
to these guys
it's pretty cool I think that the violence
in this movie is pretty good
definitely dude I mean in this seat right from the
jump like there's a dude
one of the pirates is
after one of the like naval
guys and the guy the naval guy
gets a sword like right through
his chest and you fucking see that shit
one thing one thing I want to
point out is with these battles is
fucking um harveyabar dam's ship
is terrible because it looks like a fucking
truckosaurus or something
it's like a transformer that like
turns into like this like skeletal
version of itself and crushes other
ships. Yeah, it's
not a great idea, but
when you see it actually do the
thing, it's pretty cool.
I'm anti-Pretty cool.
I'll be honest. Not
this part, but when he
rolls over the fucking British Navy
at the end of the movie, that's great.
It's more like, pretty,
pretty, pretty
for me.
But it's great because, you know, they
lay waste to everyone on the ship and Javier
Bardem as Captain Salazar, his
whole thing is like he always leaves one dude
alive to tell the tale. And he
hears these
guys in the brig. The kid
like knocks something over or something like
that. So Salazar goes downstairs
and this old man, I mean, is
pleading for his
life. He's fucking terrified. And like
one of Salazar's dudes just kills
this guy, like just drops him instantly.
But it's like, I don't remember another point
in this franchise where there was a character
like legitimately pleading for their life
in a not comical way.
Yes.
Like this old dude just gets dropped.
But yeah, I mean, it's this whole,
you know, the kid mentions
Jack Sparrow
and, you know.
He sees the wanted poster on the ground
because the kid was carrying like 50 copies
for some reason.
He just went to the, you know,
the Caribbean fucking kinkas.
We should say that, yeah,
one thing is that,
oh, no, but just we should talk about
how he looks at this stupid movie
because it's ugly
it's not good
I kind of think it looks kind of cool because the idea
is like I guess he's underwater the whole
time so his hair moves like he's underwater
even though he's above water
and I kind of like that effect
he does look like kind of like dog shit but the rest of his
crew is pretty cool too
with the whole like missing faces
and shit there's like eight
things going on with him that I was
just like I need two or three
max here buddy he's got these
burn marks from a cannon fire
he's got two sword hands
he's got the underwater
thing he's got this busted as
a coat that he's
wearing I mean it's I just
I get tired of it I'll tell you what the one thing that he
doesn't need is the penguin
the Dain de Vito penguin goop in his mouth
that is that's the one step too
far for me I'm more
with Eric on this I think it's actually
pretty rad
the underwater thing particularly
is yeah I like the hair
the hair's cool. The effect of that is really cool.
I just like that they're all like
super waterlogged
partial people.
There are some of those crew members that just
sort of look like it's like the invisible man almost.
Which is pretty great.
I'm just really glad we got something new like
Ghost Pirates.
Yeah. Well, I mean, the funny thing is like
I don't know, man. That's why there shouldn't be
five of anything. There's only so much shit
you can do. Just have him fight another
pirate. Yes. Have a
character. Not a force of
dead zombie ghost things and just yeah it's just that's the thing i agree i i think that the
and also there's just way too much supernatural like in the first movie we were closer to
indiana jones version of supernatural like one or two things are kind of crazy yeah this movie
we've got a fleet of dead uh ghosty pirates that's that's enough and then all the trident
shit later on and the and also for some reason he travels around with dead birds and dead shark
too.
Also, what...
It is too much.
It is too much.
What constitutes being enough of a person to be on his ship?
Like, you know, because there's like two dudes that are like literally cufflinks that are people.
I think, I mean, yeah, you know, obviously there's not a lot that's explained here.
You know, but it's like, I think if you were on the ship at the time that it was cursed in the devil's triangle, dude, like that's just, you know.
There's just a floating thing of entrails.
That would be great
If it was just a large intestine
Walking around with a sword
Right, that's left with Billy Bud
Oh, look out for Skaggs, he's a real asshole
And then an asshole shows up
It's just an asshole
Oh look, here comes Skags
Boop Poop
But I love
So Salas I was like, hey man
I need Jack Sparrow's compass
And I have to say
That it's pretty impressive
That a seemingly meaning
this prop from the first film.
Jesus, Louises.
Is now such a massively important thing
by the end of this franchise.
You know, way to go, everybody.
You did it.
Not only that, I mean,
later on,
like Johnny Depp gives it to someone else
and suddenly it awakens Salazar.
It's like, wait a second.
Hasn't that thing?
Did that thing not change hands at all?
I made a note about that
because it definitely did
because Elizabeth Swan
is using it all over that third movie.
Wow.
And I think even, like,
what do you call it?
Jones has it for a little bit
like everyone has that fucking thing
but in this movie it's like oh
just change the fucking thing
you like do something different
like the last movie which wasn't good
you know it's like the founder youth or whatever
just do a new magic thing
maybe Jack stumbles
across it or whatever maybe he does
actual pirating and steal some treasure
and finds it well that
would be pretty cool if that actually happened
but I mean they did introduce a new
magic thing and you're complaining about it
The Trident? Yeah. But how about
a good one? How about
that but better? I'm with
Eric on that. So he needs
the compass. So it's basically like,
hey man, you know, you
lead me to Jack Sparrow
and I'm not going to kill you. How's that sound?
And he says
you know, I always leave
a man alive to tell the tale
because, as we all know,
dead man tell no tales.
And then as Chris,
as you pointed out, I give you all the credit for
smash what a fucking big ball move
it's something you are saying
the title of the film like half a second
before that fucking title card comes up wow
that's balls i mean it's it's dumb as shit
but it is also big balls
it's also a long time it reminded me
that Friday the 13th remake
where it's like 25 minutes
there's the title of the movie all right
I didn't think that was going to happen
yeah exactly like they're watching the final cut
this movie and it's like, wait a second. You fucking put
the title card there. Oh, fuck.
I dropped it in an Adobe premiere by mistake.
It looks okay, though, right?
It was supposed to be right after
the castle. I will say not
enough how you are by them in this movie.
And I like this version. The character
isn't super well defined either. Like,
in this part, he's just like, will you tell him,
will you, will you, will you tell him?
Like, that's kind of a fun, like, he's a little,
what do you call it, more manic for a second,
but that doesn't hold a lot.
Right. He's also polite in that moment, too.
And then he's just, he's just murdering everyone later in the movie and there's no like tit for tat.
There's no banter.
There's no, there's none of that character remains after this title card.
They do lose it in the third act because it's not a great third act at all.
But I at least appreciate like, I love how like crazy he is.
Like he's nuts and he's been obsessing for years about Jack Sparrow.
you know it's we'll of course get into all the past history sure i mean his motivation just for himself
makes sense but like the whole thing like i hunted pirates because my dad and grandfather both
did and they died and it's just like what is it pirate hunting tradition i don't know well no what
he's he's like a he's like a spanish naval officer right right that's the whole thing is like he's
not a pirate no no no but he he hunts pirates his whole mission in life is to kill pirates because
Pirates killed his dad and pirates killed his grandfather.
Right, who were also, though, pirate hunters, right?
It's like the family tradition kind of a thing, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it happened.
I'm more, but I am also more interested in that character,
a character that is, like, obsessed with hunting pirates
because his fucking dad and his grandfather were killed by them,
then the guy who is obsessed with the compass that's going to lift this curse,
another goddamn curse.
I mean, that's a great point, Chris.
Just have him be a pirate hunter, and let's go do it.
Let's go have some sword fights.
Let's have some fucking cannons without a fucking magic coming on my butthole.
Well, it's not the movie's fault you were sitting at home fucking farting through the whole thing.
Oh, Skaggs, stop farting.
Oh, Skaggs, you did it again.
Must have been that spell I had for dinner.
So then we open on St.
and it's this guy
who's really excited about
look, it's the greatest bank
that ever existed, yada, yada, yada.
Yeah, this is Bruce, what is this guy's name?
Bruce Spence.
Spence, yeah.
From, he's gyro captain in
the Mad Max world.
He's in, what were we saying this last night?
He's also one of the poachers in Ace Ventura, too.
Oh, yeah.
Stay the fuck tune, Jesus Christ.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, they're dedicating this new bank in St. Martin.
And I think right before this, though, is when it's weird how they introduced this female lead,
this Kaya Skodilario actress playing this Karina Smith.
Because she's introduced in like little bits here and there.
Like there's just a quick, like, she's being sentenced for being a witch because she's actually a fucking scientist.
Like is the idea she's in a fucking cell.
and this priest is like, yeah, you've been sentenced to death, so, you know, you're a witch.
Well, I mean, yeah, so she does know science and stuff.
And Andrew, I don't know about this movie because I didn't see her like learn every single science thing.
Didn't see her go to school to get her master's.
Oh, my God.
Where was the science book?
I'm confused.
Incredible.
This is damning, damning evidence, Eric.
That's true.
that is why I don't like the movie
but she's kind of rad right here
because this priest is like
you know any last words
and she's like well by the way when you were running
your fucking dumb mouth
I was picking this lock
and she fucking you know opens the door
this priest gets knocked down
which I laughed about
and so yeah then we cut to Bruce Bans
he's opening they're dedicating this
you know bank vault like here's our new
bank on St. Martin
here's the vault and we're going to
open it up and nobody's been in here yet
and how great is this and they open it up and of course there is our friend mr jack sparrow passed
out in the safe and you know i have to say we've been we've been harping on this since movie one
but dude when he gets out of this safe you let you get one look at really like drunk down and
out super scumbag jack sparrow now you know that smell is ripe it's not good i mean how is this
guy's why fucking this dude you yes there's a woman there's a woman in the vault
with them. They decide not to shoot
because, isn't that your wife?
Yeah, dude. Here's Bruce Spence getting cucked at his own fucking
bank dedication ceremony. It is insane.
How does he still get hard with all the STDs? I don't
understand it. And the wrong. Maybe it's
permanently hard. It's just stuck that way. That's a fair.
Okay, so Bruce Spence. He's got baggy pants, though. You're not
seeing nothing. And I know you are on the lookout camera.
I'm there looking. And I saw nothing.
Bruce Spence should then grow
a beard become Cuckbeard
the pirate. Yes, finally.
Yes. He's the guy that hunts pirates. He's a
pirate hunter named Cuckbeard.
And
this is the thing where like the vault
is on some chains, Gibbs
and co, including Stephen Graham.
I think that
we were down to only three
remaining OG pirates here.
It's a Big Daddy Gibbs.
Yeah. The little guy.
And then yes, Stephen Graham is scrum.
I think that's his name.
And they're sort of like, they're attaching shit
to horses. You don't really know what's going on
here. And
it's kind of like right after
like, oh yeah, well, didn't he
fuck your wife? And like
they start firing
on him because like she gets out of the way. They start
firing and the safe
is pulled out of
well the plan I guess initially is we're going to
pull the safe right out the back of the building
and be off with it. But instead
they set out what honestly guys I think is
a really fucking awesome action sequence
where the whole building
is being pulled through the streets
by these horses. It's fun.
And they're doing a pirate thing. They're trying to steal a treasure.
This is one of the better sequences of the movie.
I would say, yeah.
And the weird thing is it starts with
Bruce Spence being like,
hey, Jack Sparrow, why don't you leave
the ocean cold?
And we're running out of shrimp.
Oh, yeah? Well, I ate sex
with you all want.
God damn it, that would be great
if he actually insulted him like that
and then just gets pulled away
but you know, we're dragging this whole building
tons of stuff is being destroyed
This is the 9-11 of St. Martin
This is the first thing. This is like
the first one. It's like 1-11.
Hundreds dead. I mean literally, I mean, you can't
see him because, but like that building
went through some living quarters
it looked like. Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
I mean, in one of the greatest moments of destruction
is Karina, our scientist who is broken out of the jail cell
goes to this dude's...
I don't even know what the fuck you call this.
I mean, I guess he's a professional astronomer.
He's got this massive telescope.
And, you know, there's a sign on the door
that's like, no women and no dogs.
And this guy's like, but you're a woman,
and you're in my store and you're touching my telescope.
And this dude's like losing his fucking mind.
And then she's like, oh, actually, like,
you had this one little thing out of check here.
I re-aligned it for you.
And then the fucking building comes by
and just slams into this building,
destroys this guy's telescope.
Oh, it's funny.
This is when, like,
I think Roger Moore did a pass on this script.
There is so much innuendo and double talk.
It's like,
this is the first time a woman's ever touched my telescope.
And she's like, well, that figures or something like that.
It's a very horny movie.
It's a super horny movie.
Thank you.
Oh, that's what it's a,
I guess this is the name of,
it's either the name of the brand of the,
or the nickname that he
gives it, but I wrote it down
the guy says, no
woman's ever handled my
Herschel. Yes. Okay.
And then this dude also
calls her a witch, of course. But
then his telescope gets fucked up, which is great.
Johnny Depp kind of saves her for a second
and they're in this together.
Right. And Dave Wenham is trying
to kill her.
While everybody else is trying to get the
fucking house that's running through the
fucking streets. I'm happy David Wenham get some
work in this movie, man. Who's this guy?
Who is he? He's great. I think
he's Australian or New Zealand maybe.
Top of the lake.
Top of the lake. He's in a lot
of, he's in the latter two
Lord of the Rings movies. Yep.
As Boromir's brother.
Oh, yeah.
Snoramir. I think it's Faramir.
Faramir, yeah. He was good
in those. He is good. Yeah, I just like, I like
the actor. He does a lot of character actor work.
He's really good.
But, like, I love that his whole thing in this movie
he's like, I'm going to get that witch
for like a large portion
of the film. That is his only motivation
is capturing what he perceives to be
a witch. Maybe I wasn't paying a super attention
but doesn't he just disappear? I don't know
if he dies or anything
concludes his character. I think he's
on the ship with the rest
of the English Navy.
Yeah, the Tricosaurus I think it's
got it. Oh yeah. So he doesn't really just get a
real death. It's just sort of a group death there.
He didn't escape to grave digger
in time.
By the way, I would watch a movie called Get That Witch.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course.
With an exclamation point, that sounds fun.
It sounds like the title of one of the fake Tracy Jordan movies on 30 Rock.
Yeah, exactly.
Tracy Jordan stars in Get That Witch.
Or you could do like a 60s-ass kind of sex romp kind of a thing.
Oh, totally.
It could go that way also.
I'd appreciate that.
So, yeah, it's, I mean, you know, big great chase scene.
it ends with the building like getting caught outside like the entrance to the town and everything like goes tits up and they they escape and then honestly great gag great button on this whole thing they go to be like all right now our winnings from the safe and all the money has fallen out and there's like one little coin left in the whole thing which is i think a pretty great laugh uh yeah and sparrow takes it then he has the balls to ask for a tribute from everybody else wow dude the fucking nuts on this disgusting guy
tribute thing is like a new
thing. Like they do it a lot
in this movie but I don't remember
it coming up before. I either do
I. I think they're trying to replace
the parley thing.
Yes. With something like this.
You know, now this is the new
pirate thing you can all learn in this movie.
Yeah. Right. There is no instance
of parlay here. No.
It's true. They also got rid of the rum being gone.
I think the last movie didn't have it.
And this movie I don't think has that either.
It's more wine in this movie.
is he drinking wine in this movie?
Yeah, I think that's usually what they're drinking
like jugs of wine.
I think it's a jug of rum, you know, yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum.
I know that's why, but like you never hear them talking about it.
That's true, yeah.
No, is this Johnny Depp was just drinking wine.
Yes, it's also true.
And it looks it.
He winds up, like, I think what's,
Karina gets caught again.
He kind of betrays her. She does say it.
I do think this is something that was in play in one of the iterations of the script
where she's like, oh, no,
never met me father and I'm like she he's her father like I just immediately when she says that
to him like he's got to be your dad um it's a classic case of who's my dad to who to barbosa
no she says it to Johnny Depp in the beginning oh blah blah blah and you know my father
taught me how to do this and this but I've never met him and I'm like okay you're but you're
saying at that point in this movie you then thought that Jack Sparrow was her father yes and it would
make more sense oh I see
I was confused for a second because I was like,
but Steve, that's not what happens.
No, yeah, certainly not.
You have to introduce, then you can kill off a character
and they're not going to kill off Jack Sparrow.
That's a good point. Yeah, no, that's exactly
what this is, the old switcheroo here.
But yeah, so
we should mention Sparrow at this
point is abandoned by all of his guys.
They're like, you know what, dude, you're fucking
drunk, you fucked us on that whole robbery.
And now you're asking us to give you
tribute, tribute for fucking what?
Go fuck yourself. And they all leave
him, you know, there's some, a couple
of new guys on the team and they're like, Jack
Sparrow is no longer our captain
and that's sort of that.
And then meanwhile,
because the, the
Turner boy is the sole survivor
of that wreck, he's in a
hospital, he's been captured by the British
Navy. And he's still wearing
that jacket. They're like, oh, look, we got ourselves some
treasoners here. And I'm like, well, dude, don't
fucking wear that jacket. Put the treason
jacket on that dead guy.
But so, yeah, so then this
is Karina comes in here. She's pretending to be a nun
working at the hospital.
And this is where she
meets up with the Turner kid. What's his name?
Henry Turner. Henry Turner.
By the way, she's great in Crawl
from 2019.
She's the daughter
in that movie? Yeah, Barry Pepper is the
father. I got to see it, man.
Yeah, it's a fun. It's a fun. It's a fun movie.
Yeah, you just
late at night. It's a good late at night, you know what I mean?
Like, you're watching your second or third
movie of the evening. You'll have fun with that.
It has a sense of humor, too, which is nice.
Yeah, I think she made bank off of all those maze runner movies.
She's big snows.
Yeah, I mean, I think she's in like all of them.
So, Chris, you would say that she got the cheese at the end?
Yes, Eric, yes, yes, yes, I would.
I would say that.
The cheese is like cheddar, like money.
Yes.
Thank you, Eric, for explaining that.
So they're both talking about, you know, the Trident and everything.
and this is where things get a titch
and it's a Jerry Bruckheimer movie
so I get it. It's not surprising
but things get a little too national treasure here
because she's like I have this book
it was Galileo's and he was obsessed with finding
the Trident and I was like you know what
that's kind of dumb and then she's like
but that's not all Andrew he also
built the spyglass so he could
and I'm like man no
do not national treasure this pirate's movie
But you, Galileo, not.
Galileo had enough on his plate.
He didn't also have to be searching for the fucking Trident.
The fucking Trident of Poseidon becomes the big MacGuffin of the movie.
So the Christian God never existed.
Fuck that shit.
Ancient Greek times.
Yes.
Okay.
Hey, man, it's more interesting to me than watching fucking Claflin in the last movie
bitching about the love of Jesus.
You are correct. You are correct. But go all the way. Give me Atlantis.
Yeah. Yeah. But also, if you, if you give me firm shit instead of wet shit, I'm not like happy.
You'll be happy with my firm shit, Chris Cabin.
Andrew Juppen's firm shit.
And this is, there's a fucking disgusting moment right here where Sparrow's like walking around St. Martin, like still just really super,
wasted and he face plants
and like a pile of shit and then
goes into this bar still
covered and shit. I like
how that he destroys an entire building
and stays in town.
Yep. Yep.
But I guess he's too drunk or
fucked up to even know.
Yeah. I think that might be
something there. I don't
even remember what happened with that
vault. I wasn't even trying to
ride that house that way.
You know, man, I used to be
the captain of the black pearl you ever hear about it i didn't think so man bruce clever as the
fucking as a as a pirate makes much more sense yeah it's me captain salazar man
the weird thing is like they specifically cast his captain salazar i like it we set up a lab
in the quarters man we're doing great oh man the fin
Chip comes in in three weeks. We got to hit it hard, man. Now remember, we can't eat that one because
then it'll all go in the water and that's a no, no. Oh, man, Jack Sparrow stole my head again, man.
There was a mention of like one of the crew members of Barbosa actually that only says Salazar as
salamander and I'm like this Bruce Glover would be captain salamander.
here I am man
the slippery is pirate
in the high seas
I'm always slippery
because I'm going through withdrawals
you can't catch me
with my cold sweat
slip through your hands again
of the salamander
most pirates
you know they got a bird on their shoulder
or a monkey or something
I have a hippopotamus
with me
and well you know
not much crew
but I got a hippopotamus man
I do love
I mean the weird thing
is they don't play this
Jack Sparrow thing
as sad when he does it
you know what I mean
it's not even comical either
it's just sort of like
give me a bottle of rum
I don't have
here I'll suck you dick for it
I'll suck your dick for rum
yeah
but this part where he
gives a
the magic compass that he's been fucking
he's been loving that fucking thing
for all these movies he gives it up for
a bottle of rum or whatever this is
meanwhile we just saw him get a
fucking gold coin out of that fucking vault
yeah that's enough for
three bottles of rum at least I would think
does he still have it though
like maybe one of those other dudes like took it
instead or something I don't know I don't
remember that happening but maybe
it fell in that pile of shit
that he fell in back there
Gibbs lifted it yeah
it's oh that pig got it you think maybe oh the pig was eating it yeah um but yeah so this dude
you know the guy says something like show me he's like how about a bottle of rum and the guy's like
show me your silver uh and you know because jack sparrow is a pirate he's not used to financial
transactions in such a way so he's a little confused at first um and then he's like all right
like how about a barter he gives this dude the compass and when he puts it down on the table so this
card i insert it or do i slide is it a tag
is this touchless?
Yeah, it is a chip. Oh, it is a chip, love.
Where do I put that?
Bend over and I'll show.
Here, let me wipe it off for you.
Okay, put it back in.
Oh, damn, I got to remember what zip code I had when I started the card.
I got to tell you, man, that is a real pleasure of having moved but stayed in the same zip code.
Oh, bless it.
Because it would be at least another two years before I got everything turned over.
Sure, yeah.
Magnetic strips a little bent there, love.
Let me just take that again.
Tony, Tony, yeah, we're having problems with the machine again.
Tony, could you come here?
Yeah, this guy's trying to tell me that my card's no good at this ATM, man.
And I feel like just tipping it over in this tavern.
Mr. Glover, you're using a Barnes & Noble gift card.
Oh, not again, man.
The Barnes & Noble booksellers, they're probably back for.
Pirate Times, right? That's when they were founded.
Oh, yeah, Mr. Barnes and Mr. Noble.
But so when he puts this compass
down, everything starts shaking,
sort of a throwback to that first movie when
the amulet falls into the water
and it sends a message to Barbosa.
You know, everything starts shaking here. And now
Salazar and his crew
are freed from the triangle because Jack
has given up, he's given away the
compass. Yes. And now
they can go and they know where to go and they start
like just fucking raising hell on the
high seas. By the way, this is Jack Spower
responsible for like hundreds
of pirate debts at least.
Absolutely. All for a bottle of booze, dude.
It's pretty sad when you think about it. Yeah, but
like also how did this curse even happen again?
So, I mean, but we'll get to that flashback
scene, but like it's just the area
like on this part of the ocean, you might
get a curse. Well, it's a
it's the, what he called it? The Bermuda Triangle
and that's... Well, I think, I think
I think someone somewhere is holding the copyright to that
because this is the devil's triangle.
That's right.
It's me again.
Larry Cohen.
I own the Bermuda Triangle.
I'm having sex with Amelia Earhart, love.
Savvy.
Oh, inside the devil's triangle, time means nothing.
Exactly.
So a woman from the 20th century flies back to 1760.
Yeah, he's just drinking with some people from like a passenger jet.
It's a bunch of tourists
thinking they're on their way to vacation.
Oh, thank you, Carl.
So Sparrow is found by Bruce
Bens and their guys. And Bruce Spence is like,
I cannot believe you fucking stayed in town.
Well, now that we've caught you, it's the death penalty.
Yeah, so now that it's both him and
Karina are about to get executed.
In the jail cell,
Henry shows up,
and he meets up with Jack Sparrow
and they have a conversation here.
They make their pact kind of a thing.
Yes, he's like, you know,
I am the son of
Will Turner and Elizabeth Swan, and it's kind of great.
He's like, you're the evil spawn of them two?
And I was like, yep, be suspicious of this child,
Jack Sparrow.
They do insist on continuing the joke
of him calling Will Turner a eunuch,
which is like, dude, it wasn't fucking funny
in the first one.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you have to kind of remember that, too.
You're like, the fuck's this guy talking about?
It's such a blink and you miss a thing.
And at this point, it's 2017.
And you're like, is that a fucking Game of Thrones joke?
Like, what are you talking about?
Hey, Jack, do me a favor.
Write down your address, the date, and the time for me, okay?
And I'm going to take a look at that.
But yeah, so Salazar is firmly on his way to kill Jack Sparrow with his army of the dead.
And as Henry explains to Jack, hey, man, the Trident of Poseidon is your only hope because I guess this, I mean, this is, as far as like DeiSX dumb magical things, this is the tops, I think.
It's basically, hey, whoever controls the Trident controls the sea and then all curses in the ocean will be broken.
Isn't that convenient, everybody?
Yeah, it's, it.
Yes, it is.
At least like the Fountain of Youth was very specific and I wouldn't call it grounded,
but it is like we need, we want to do these kinds of things and it only does this certain
thing and it's really specific all the way through.
Here it's just like, I don't know, there's a magic thing and a magic place and it does magic.
Well, and it's so just, you know, this amorphous object that there's even a part towards the end
of the movie where someone says like, someone says to Harvey Obridem, like don't do
whatever, you know,
it's not a, it's not going to
work or it's going to kill you, whatever it is. And he's
like, oh, don't worry, the Trident will fix
that. And I'm like, well, the fuck do you know.
That wasn't on the list of
things the Trident is supposed to do
from the beginning of the movie.
Triedent's got it. It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Triedent. Triedent.
Cheat on your wife.
Up, ab, bap. Triedent.
We make that deal, you know,
the eve of the execution here.
We cut to, man, this is kind of great.
Here is Hector Barbosa
fucking living it up.
Imp style on this ship, dude.
Oh, he's having a great time.
Because he's made a pirate.
They're like, I feel like once a week,
they're like, oh, do you want to go after the
curse of old man something's
something or other? Well, no, I'd rather
go get gold. I'd rather actually, yeah.
I don't want to, you want to find the fountain
of something that's going to give you
immortal. I just, I'd rather get a lot of money.
Yeah. He looks great.
His whole crew is well dressed. It's
finally nice to see them do pirating by the way i noticed online people had pointed out that i was
incorrectly pronouncing his name through all these episodes is barbarossa yep and it's not because
i'm a stupid guy or that i mispronounce things it was actually a joke i've been working on
oh is that right yeah that's right and i think it'll go a little something like this
okay so uh ought to call him barbarosa because like the access operation to invade the soviet union
How's that going, babe?
This guy's all bluster, cha-cha.
Where am I?
That's the news that I am out of here.
I'm glad that that took over a month for you to construct that.
I didn't know I was saying it wrong today.
I'm glad that Barbosa, at least, is getting into interior design.
This place looks fucking incredible.
He's got golden skeletons up near where the entryway is,
and he has like a hellfire mural behind him.
It's just magnificent.
It's great.
The skulls, like, when did he become, like, a fucking, like, monster?
Like, what are these, oh, all be skulls and souls?
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of like, you know, um...
Absolute power corrupts, absolutely, I guess, is that?
Sure, I was going to say, you know, there are those people that really love Halloween.
Okay.
You know, like, folks that are really obsessed with, like, the nightmare before Christmas and shit like that.
I just think that that's Barbosa, dude.
He's like, you know what?
I'm a pirate, but it doesn't mean I can't also have a ghoulish sensibility.
Also, people who love their work and are great at their work are always changing it up.
Yeah, that's a good point.
They have to, you know, find new things to do.
Well, that's a good point because at the end of the first movie, the fourth movie, he's like, he gets control of Blackbeard ship.
He gets a sword and everyone's like, oh, here we go.
It's going to be some hellish thing.
It's like, no, dude, we're all going to go to Tortuga to get drunk.
And that's how he fostered a great business plan.
Like, he's got a great team behind him.
you know what I mean he treats them well he pays them fairly he was finally going to tortuga to recruit people to be on his crew and it wasn't just a ruse to like get a bunch of drunks and feed them to davy jones like in previous recruiting scenes we've seen on tortuga I do also love when you see like it's not just his quarters on the ship but like everything outside like on the deck there's just tons of jewels and shit and the colors there's like bright blues and these like really rich purses.
purples and reds just like shining
everywhere. That's a great point because this whole
fucking franchise has been so gray and dark
and yes, treasure, it's bright.
And honestly, some of these ocean shots
are very bright too. It's very appreciated.
It's great, dude. A lot of clarity
to everything that's going on here,
which is really, really helpful compared to what we
just went through with Stranger Tides.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
I mean, this is where
one thing I have to say
about Javier Bredenda,
Salazar. A thing
that happens to make you think that it's
eerie that he's that Salazar
is about to be there is there is there's a
flock of half dead
pigeon chickens that
are like just flapping around and like
they try to make this really ominous and I'm like
it looks I mean it just looks like a dead
chicken I think they're like buzzards
or something I think they eat the dead
maybe
you're talking about there's that there's a great
scene where there's just some random ship
and like dudes are like fishing or something
and then the bird lands
on the guy's boat. He's like, what's
that? And Salazar, like, rams them?
I think it might have been one of,
because it's Admiral Barbosa now,
and he's got multiple ships. They do come into that
cabin and tell him that three of his ships
that has already been sunk. So I just assume
maybe this was one of his. Maybe it's not.
I mean, it's... Yeah, I don't know.
It's just hard to take him seriously when he's like,
oh, yes, here he comes.
The dead chicken will tell his tale.
I don't know, man. It kind of looks like the chicken from Gumby.
What?
The chicken from Gombie.
Remember Tilly the chicken?
Yes, I did.
Where it's just this like,
yeah.
You know, just like a, like the robot chicken from robot chicken,
but it's like covered in oil.
I mean, this one's not talking like Tom Waits.
So that's, that's true.
Right.
People might not know.
We have a tier on Patreon where we talk about cartoons and we did Gumby the other month and
there was an evil chicken on it.
It was.
It was evil, dude.
So yeah.
By the way, the two.
dudes that are like, hey, some ships in your fleet have been destroyed, are the two
like know-it-all British guys from the very first movie that at the, at the time of the third
movie, we're like pretending to be pirates because like Beckett was getting fucking
killed. And now they're like just, they are straight up. They have made the transformation
into pirates. Uh, whole hog. They're now like more convincingly dressed as pirates and more
convincingly carrying themselves
at pirates, I guess is the idea.
I love that Barbosa's listening
to that string quartet when the two guys
come in to inform him and they don't stop playing
and he's got to fucking fire the gun
at the wall to get them to shut up.
I do, I mean, apparently
McKenzie Crook and everybody else
or a lot of the other pirates were asked
to be in this movie and a lot of
them declined because of quote unquote scheduling
conflicts, i.e. like money.
Like, I think it was just, there was a real
hard cap on what they were going to pay those dudes.
yeah it's so funny
I read that too
and it's just kind of like
I don't know I mean yeah of course
you have every right to be
thinking you're not being paid that well
or maybe you're just tired of doing these movies
you are already in three of them
I don't know I feel like I'm not
turning down a working vacation
you know to go on location
to do these things not that this movie was
filmed in the Caribbean but they weren't
they weren't exactly missed
no no no no not at all
and it might be different if the last
movie you made wasn't the most expensive
movie ever made.
Yeah. I think that's the thing is
like you try to play hardball
and like either you're playing chicken
and sometimes you get to
you never getting fucked. Yeah, I guess that's true.
Now here's the scene that I don't understand,
the character that I do not understand
is this uh, Shansa
woman. So Salazar
this is a useless character. Why even have it?
I don't get like because she's with Barbosa
like Barbosa goes to her first.
That's the introduction to this woman.
But then we also see her later talking with the naval guys.
And I'm like, who is this person?
She's like, I don't know.
She's working for the British government or something because Barbosa bribes a British officer to see her.
That's right.
Okay.
Yeah, I do remember that because she's like locked away somewhere and he gives the dude a sack of coins.
Do you know who that is?
I do not.
That is Adam Driver's wife and Patterson.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Weird.
That's a really good movie.
Yeah, totally.
it's another woman of color that we have to make into a monster
because you just can't have it in this movie
that cannot have it but she's got really piercing eyes
I think that's something that is really forward about hers
and like she's just a witch that knows how to get to Davy Jones
and like oh not David Jones
Salazar we're talking about this time
how to get to Salazar it's a different cleop
what is the thing with this woman like at the start of this scene
where Jeffrey Rush goes in she's like cooking up something
and she drinks it and it just straight up looks like the
ectoplasm at the beginning of the first
Ghostbusters movie?
Like the shit that Bill Murray gets all over his hands
that's what it looks like she's drinking and I was like
the fuck you doing lady
It's just magic magic
Bush. She is kind of magicing right here
Because she's got a hot cauldron going
She fucking throws that live rat right into it
That was kind of cool.
Hot cauldron I thought they closed that place down
What were magicing?
You didn't call me?
I love to magic.
She gives Barbosa the compass.
Oh, right.
It is what it is.
And, you know, it's one of those, like, Barbosa's, like, say, I would wager.
This used to be in the possession of a bar keep because Jack Spara traded it for booze.
How did you get it?
And it's just one of those, I have my ways.
Like, just fucking say you robbed somebody.
Or, you know, a deleted scene, me, me hearty.
Oh, the SS deleted scene.
or it's just that the HMS deleted
scene, excuse me. Those pages
are on the writer's room for me
lady. On the writer's room
deck.
But yeah, so Barbosa's
like, all right, cool, I'm going to go off to
intercept Salazar
here is the idea. Or no, he's going
Salazar intercepts him
I think is the idea, but he is going
he's got the compass, he's going to go find Jack
Sparrow. In the meantime, Jack Sparrow is
about to be executed as is this Karina
woman. And as Jack Sparrow is,
is being dragged down the hallway to be executed.
I have to say, I love the man.
I love the man. I love him. I love him. I love him. I love him.
This is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, who is this guy? Are you kidding me?
No, who is it?
It's Paul McCartney. I'm playing Uncle Jack?
Who's Paul McCartney?
Oh, no. He's doing a joke about the film yesterday.
I thought for a second, Steve Sadeg legitimately did not recognize Sir Paul McCartney.
And I almost had a heart attack.
His legacy has been erased
since he was in this movie.
I mean,
they,
here's the thing.
They advertised the hell
out of the fact that Keith Richards
was in that.
Starting with that third movie.
And I'm with Steve.
I don't remember that fourth movie
even really coming out.
So I don't know if Keith Richards
was in those trailers too,
even though he's in the movie.
He is because he's the one,
he does like the intro to the trailer.
Oh, that's dumb.
Sit down,
me heart.
we're about to watch a film trailer
but like I don't remember hearing boo
about Paul McCarty
in this movie and it's just like
what are you thinking
I think I remembered it vaguely when I saw him
but I totally forgot about it
I remember this movie I at least kind of remember
the trailer it was like ominous
and what he called there
it's Javier Bardem doing a bunch of shit
and I was like they're still making these
but I at least remembered it
the last one I do not remember even a single trailer
It's right of God.
But so
Are you saying that Paul McCartney
was in one of the trailers?
No, no, no, no.
But I mean, I just
this one I'm more aware of
I remember vaguely that Paul McCrachar-
Like, internet rumblings,
oh, Paul McCartney, blah, blah, blah.
Gotcha, gotcha.
This movie is only from a few years ago somehow.
Yes.
Somehow.
This came out in 2017.
It's insane.
This was the first Pirates movie
of the Trump presidency.
But yeah, so it's just,
it's Paul McCartney's like,
Jack Sparrow?
And then Paul McCartney-era Johnny Depp is like, Uncle Jack.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
And it's just poor Paul McCartney is like just making these terrible jokes and like, oh, you're being executed.
Who's your executioner?
Oh, that guy is great.
Like he's getting a fucking haircut.
I did not appreciate this comedy.
Like, ask for so-and-so, mention my name and he won't cut your feet off.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
Paul McCartney does have one good joke in this, that Skeleton goes into a bar, orders a beer and a mop.
Which is something I feel, that's not like an original joke.
And I want to say, Paul McCartney may have said that elsewhere.
That hilarious joke.
Well, is it about him?
Because Paul is dead, right?
It's an imposter here.
Aye, I, little Jackie, you know what happened?
Me and my gang were trying to run away and we got caught.
we were you might say
bandits on the run
well done
my favorite part of this whole sequence is when he's like
all right Jackie I'll talk to you later
I've been trying to get this shit kicked out of me
for days but we get really bad service here
it's like what are you up to in that cell dude
I get like just all of these jokes
about how like this character is acting
like he's at a restaurant or a barbershop
or something it's just
it was impossible
to make this funny for me.
Yeah, dementia's not funny.
No.
Unless, of course, it's coming from me.
President Jonathan, what's my name?
Jay, I don't know, Trump.
The, so if it's Jonathan.
Donald J.
I don't know what stands for.
No one does.
I'm Fred Jr.
Oh, no, Fred Jr.'s my dead brother.
Where's Rudy?
And where is my hydroxy Glyquine?
I, I, President,
Rupert Pumpkin, wait, that's not it.
I'll get it.
Give me a second.
So they're being executed, and it's this kind of funny thing where they're arguing, like, across the, you know, they're on two execution platforms.
She's going to be hung.
There's a whole thing about, oh, there's a new invention called the guillotine, and he chooses that as his method of execution, not knowing what it is.
Nice to give you an option.
Yeah, exactly.
And I do like, there was a funny gag here where he's like, oh, you know, geez, I didn't know that's what a guillotine was.
You know, why don't you stone me?
Like a good old fashioned stoning.
And they start dragging him towards it.
He says, I'd kill to be stoned right now.
And I was like, I am right there with you, Jack Sparrow.
Let's finish this movie.
Yeah, I think that's why every time I keep hearing Andrews say, awesome movie and really cool.
Excuse me.
excuse me
it's underlined in a green pen
I'll have what he's having
I'll have what he's having
thank you go back to the fucking
videotape and find where I said
awesome movie
I'll give you a hundred
dollars
awesome movie
but I love
I do I do love the sequence
and actually I think he has
this is a good sequence actually the whole guillotine
thing. It's pretty great. Karina's actually
a pretty strong, fun lead.
I like this back and forth she has with him here
about like murder procedures
and who should be murdered first. It's like very
Monty Python-almost. Yes. Yeah, totally.
It's certainly better than, oh, you're fingering
me. Oh, good.
This is a joke. Me being fingered is a joke.
I didn't remember that Monty Python's.
Oh, that's coming up next. Yes.
Stop fingering
that dead parrot.
this bleeding
parrot's been fingered already
and then an animated foot falls down on them
and so of course
Turner swings in during all of this
and just it's kind of a funny
like they film him when he takes the initial
jump and it's this heroic like
that da da da da and then he like swings
past both of them repeatedly
which is kind of funny yeah I guess
I mean it felt like too much
it felt like Spider-Man almost here with this rope
I like Spider-Man.
It was way over the top
when all of these villagers
were like, hey, you mess with
Henry Turner, you mess with all of us.
And a dude and a cab came by.
I couldn't even believe that.
But Matt's hat seemed inachronistic.
I don't know why Jim Norton was there
even at all.
I'll be honest.
Oh, excellent.
But yeah, this whole action sequence
of them, you know, escaping and everything
I think is pretty great.
I do love the
he's swinging around
and the guillotine's like almost hitting him in the neck
and it's good. It's super
fun. I think it's this is this part again
where just and again there's no magic
or mysticism. It's just a what could
happen to pirates in a fun port
and that's kind of cool. And this
is to Christmas point
Henry saves Karina from the
guillotine, the guillotine the door drops.
He grabs her to keep her from breaking
her neck and this is when
she's like, um you're
inside me right now or whatever
the joke is. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like where your
hands are. Oh, because it's like, oh,
Morton Stern and all sorts of jokes.
Oh, yeah. I don't... You're fucking...
Go cram it up my poop deck back there.
I don't necessarily know that it translates
to a fingering joke, but
I'll give it to you. Yeah, it was about
anal, really. That's what it is.
He says something like, oh,
you know, I'm just a stranger
to you. And she's like, well, where your hands are,
you can't be a stranger anymore or something like that.
It's like... Then he moves it and you hear
like, sink.
And it's like, what?
What? In this movie,
want?
Man, sound design is great in this movie.
And that's the Academy Award.
And that's the Academy Award.
He shakes his head.
You hear a splat.
But the reason the whole kerfuffle really get started is because Gibbs and Co.
Woo!
Are back.
They're firing all these fucking cannons at the platforms.
It's pretty great.
And we come to find out.
Because Jack's like, oh, you came back for me.
And Gibbs is like, no, you piece of shit.
This Turner kid's paying us to do it.
Which is kind of fun.
And they kind of set sail here, sort of right?
This is kind of it.
Yeah, they get onto this little ship called what, the dying gull?
Yes.
They all, yeah, they get out of the fracas there and they go back to the ship that we first met them all on.
That's like sort of up on the beach.
And there's a whole gag about like, this is also a very national.
pleasure, by the way. Like the
boat, they're like, all right, we're going to
set sail, here we go. And they like cut a thing
and the boat starts flying down this
ramp, you know,
I don't know what you, like a
like a Rube Goldberg machine
almost. Yes. Yeah.
We, of course, in the classic
tradition of this franchise, they start and stop
of everything, we have to stop the boat
going into the water because there's a rope there
and the gag is like, oh, now what are we going to
do? And then the rope breaks and they continue.
And it's like, okay, we could have just kept going.
And they get out to see, they tie up those, they tie up Turner and the girl there.
It's kind of a weird turn to do, but.
Yeah, I don't know why they do either.
Like, they're not like enemies.
They're friends.
I mean, they're friends.
I mean, Gibbs was literally paid by them.
Yes, exactly.
They're tied up, but it's just another reason for them to be close to each to one another kind of a thing.
Blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, Barbosa and Salazar meet.
And this is where you could have had a parlor.
mention, honestly. Sure.
The catchphrase.
Come on. Like savvy. You're bringing
everything back. Just bring that back too.
Why not? Right.
Have actual cuckbeard. The original
I forget his name, Norrington.
Yeah. Bring him back. He's a ghost now.
Oh, that's who cuckbeard was.
Right. Norrington.
There's been so many movies.
It's been, I mean, how many hours have we talked
about this franchise by now?
A lot. Half a day?
It's been a lot. It's been a lot, but it almost feels like
it hasn't because of the quarantine. Now I'm wondering, should we just start over?
Oh, that's a good idea. Every five more weeks.
Pirates of the Caribbean, Curse of the Black Pearl, Part 2. Yeah.
We're reevaluating. You keep talking like that. I'm going to make you do the night at the museum movies.
Oh, Jesus. Oh, fuck. Dude, I am game for some little people running around. Hell yeah.
I'm a little, I'm a little cowboy. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Wow. Are they tiny?
in that movie? I think some people are tiny
at least. Yeah, some people are tiny. Oh, that's
dumb. I haven't
seen a single one of those movies. There's what
three of them? There's three of them.
Uh-huh. Okay. That's great.
Coming up next week. Yeah, you never, hey man,
you never know. So Barbosa,
like Salazar boards the ship
and Barbosa's like, hey man, I got
this fucking compass, dude, I can take you
right to Jack Sparrow. I know how to get
to Jack Sparrow. Give me
until sunrise tomorrow
to get you to Jack Sparrow. And if I don't
do it, I swear to God, you can kill me.
I do love this part with the
Javier Bredemman. It's not, he doesn't have sword hands.
He's got sword crutches, I think.
Yes, that he's using. And this
is when he starts, like, every time I
tap the floor, I'll kill someone, which
is kind of fun. I thought this was
pretty badass, dude. He's just like, tap
and like one of Barbosa's dudes gets
murdered.
Not those two annoying dudes, though. Those guys make
it somehow. That's pretty
dumb. Like, kill one of those guys.
I just don't get the crutches.
though. Like, you're keeping an injury
in the afterlife? Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, that's a great point
because one of those chickens you describe them as
has, there's like a missing leg and it's walking around fine.
Yeah, I don't get the, and like all the
the handcuffed thing that is a person, I guess.
That one is also just normally walking, it seems.
Let's get skags also. He's walking around.
He had polio before he died.
Oh, I see. Oh, there you go.
we should actually just specify
they are not in the afterlife
Chris Cabin they are clearly members of the
undead I of course
out there I slandered them
sort of around where we get the flashback
or whatever the fuck
with the uh yeah we can just jump to
that he gives a shit it's really
it's it's really
not great but this is where
they're sailing to find Jack
and and so
there's like okay we got some time
to kill here let's throw in some
backstory. So Salazar, this is where he explains
about his parents, or his father, rather,
hunted pirates. He worked in the Spanish Navy hunting pirates.
Pirates have no place in this world, blah, blah, blah. The thing that I
thought was a bit of bullshit, though, here, they do this flashback. Like, I understand
for most of the movie, you know,
he's around like Jeffrey Rush and these other pirates or whatever, but
The scenes where it's the Spanish Navy hunting pirates in this flashback,
and it's, it's, it's, uh, it's Javier Bardam, you know,
just looking like handsome old Javier Bardam, have this dude speak Spanish.
Have these guys speak in Spanish right here.
Wrong.
It's the first movie in the Trump presidency.
Yeah, I mean, I, who knows?
But it just, it was like, I don't know, man.
Let him speak Spanish.
It would be great.
Not only that, just give me more Javier Bardam as an alive guy.
Yes.
He looks pretty good.
as an alive guy.
He could be in one of these,
one of this fucking thing,
you guys love,
the Peter Weir movie there,
Master and Commander.
It looks like he could be,
you know,
in a sequel to one of those.
Aren't there a bunch of those books?
There are,
but the first one did not do well.
Oh,
so we'll never see it again.
No.
But it's incredible and you should see it.
Right.
I mean,
Russell Crow could never play that role now.
Oh, man.
How I saw Russell Crow in that
fucking not great Kelly Gang movie?
I mean,
me, which is not good
for Russell Crow. In Master and
Commander, like two, he could
play the anchor.
The cook, he'd be perfect for the cook.
You're going to need more
balustrades, love.
More. More
butter, captain.
I need more butter.
That I'd watch. Yes.
Yes. They have to find, like, this, the mythical
sea cow to milk it and ferment.
Your honor, does this look like,
a pirate who had all he could eat.
Oh, yes, it does.
So, yeah, so there's a pirate ship
that comes up and little Jack Sparrow is on this
pirate ship. Dude, this de-aging of Johnny Depp, he looks like
fucking Elite a battle angel. Oh, dude, you cut my, that's
exactly my nose. Is it? Oh, really? Yes. I finally did it to
someone else.
He looks, but he does, though. It's insane.
I couldn't even believe it. I was so big.
It just, the mouth is wrong.
I mean, again, like, especially like...
Because he's young and wide-eyed.
And I think...
He's got a mouth for days.
Guardians, too, looks, is a bit better with this, but, like, it's hard when you know what the actor used to look like.
I know what a 20-year-old Johnny Depp looks like, because I know what fucking 21 Jump Street is or Nightmare and Elm Street.
Like, yeah, totally.
At first, I thought they recast him because I thought like it didn't look correct.
I was like, well, at least the nose, I thought the nose looked off, but maybe I was wrong.
Looks like a real doll version of Jack Sparrow.
Oh, yes, which probably definitely exists.
Oh, it's at the Disney gift shop, dude.
You can get it.
Oh, my God.
It's the Disney gift shop like at Walt Disney World,
but there's a fucking beaded curtain doorway.
Or maybe saloon doors that you had to go through.
Clean the poop tech.
Poop decks.
I get to even say it, my lord.
There's a real doll Jessica Rabbit and a real doll Johnny Depp.
You know, we're getting everybody.
We're taking care of everybody.
That's hot.
Yeah.
One of those I would entertain, one of those I would not.
Try to guess which one.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I want a Bob Hoskins real ball.
Dude.
Eh, eh, eh, eh.
They make noises.
Every, every Eddie valiant real doll,
the fingers and mouth is steeped in cigar smoke,
just to give you a real idea of what it would be like.
And you can just have a tape recorder going.
I just put it up to your ear while you're fucking it.
And it says, Roger.
Roger.
Dude, they give you a, he's dressed in a shirt that is pre-stained with whiskey.
So, yeah, so they started, Salazar starts attacking the ship that Depp is on.
And they're, they're sort of, they're sailing towards the, uh, the devil's triangle there.
And Johnny Depp is a, uh, met by, I guess it's,
captain of this ship who's been gravely injured and this guy this dying dude gives the compass to jack
and says never betray it which we already know he deaf did and fucked this whole thing up and
you couldn't get like somebody of note to play his like the guy who taught jack sparrow how to
pirate yeah totally dude i mean we got all these famous musicians in these movies where was fucking
boz skacks we see none of that but we see like oh and that's how he got the hat oh dude
the end how he got that.
Did we say how he killed Salazar here?
He kind of like just kind of, we're getting to right now.
He does the Frank Costanza.
Ooh, I stopped short.
He definitely does stop short.
I mean, it's kind of cool.
Like, so he's taunting Salazar.
And the Salazar narration is great here.
He's like, this boy was mucking me, which is fucking hilarious.
The boat, by the way.
A little bird in the crow's nest.
And he earned his name Jack Sparrow.
Yeah, yeah.
And dude, that is a real fucking.
solo and Han Solo moment there.
I don't need to know
how characters got names.
It's not interesting.
It's for fucking, you know,
the real dedicated nerds
to just start ribbon elbows.
Oh, dude, they're just a Sparrow.
You might wonder
where big Dick Harry got his name.
Well, let me tell you.
No, no, no, I got it.
I got it.
Whoa, that's a big one.
The boat, by the way,
the ship. His father's name was Richard,
he was very large.
the ship is
the wicked wench by the way we learn
so yeah Sparrow's like taunting
this dude he's like oh yeah
your horse's ass you want to
get me come on him so they're
heading towards the devil's triangle
and Jack basically tells his dudes to throw
some lines against a rope
and they basically make the ship
caught a hard left
and Salazar's kind of car with his pants
down here and they wind up
flying into the devil's triangle
and you see them
hitting this thing. This sequence is pretty cool.
I like all the effects here. The CGI is kind of
nice. A lot of explosions and stuff,
and this is how you see some of these guys really get torn into
shit. Question mark, though.
What is making it explode?
I have no idea. Well, I think
they're supposed to be, there's like, you see
them hit a bunch of jagged rocks and I think
what's happening. Their magic rocks?
No, jagged rocks.
But they are also magic, because it looks like there's
lava water. Or a
long part. Yeah, well, it is a, it's a
fantastical place called the Devil's Triangle.
But I think part of the explosions are supposed to be
there's a bunch of gunpowder that's getting set off.
Like they have barrels of gunpowder on the ship
and that's all like blowing.
You know what? Give me a couple stupid little golems
like running around this place. Why not?
Sure. Let's do it. Let's get some monsters.
Yeah, we could have used some monsters in this cave or whatever.
That would have been kind of cool.
But yeah, so to thank him, you know, now he's just made like
the new captain of the wicked wench, Jack Sparrow is.
And yeah, this is all these dudes start paying tribute right here.
And yep, oh my God.
Couldn't you believe it?
The origin of the hat.
Yes.
You know, for five...
Yeah, thank you.
Yep, give it up.
You got to give it up for the hat origin.
For five movies, I've been just fucking scratching my noodle about this hat.
Where'd you get it?
You wonder, a kid.
It means you gotta like it.
I think there should be a very detail-oriented person on every film crew who,
before they actually go into shooting the film,
you know still in pre-production
this person's job
is to constantly be asking the question
would anybody give a shit
and so when you get to moments
like this in the screenplay where it's like
and that ladies and gentlemen is the origin
of Jack Sparrow's hat and then someone pipes in
and goes excuse me
yes it's it's me to call the
would anybody give a shit intern
would anybody give a shit about this?
You're fired!
Get the fuck out of here!
Of course they do. To escape his
home planet he has to give himself a face
new name, which is
since he's alone, it's
Han Solo.
Excuse me, Lord
and Miller, would anybody give a shit?
No. But
that's why we were fired and now this is
a Ron Howard joined.
One good thing about that scene
is I like that like plump Imperial
officer. Yeah. Whatever.
He's a bit thick with two scenes, dude.
There's not enough like, you know,
oafish loafs in the empire
shown in those movies.
totally yeah i need more loaves in the star wars
it's federation because in empire that
there's a couple of fat dudes in
that get murdered by uh what he
called there what's his face uh darth vader
and we can't we can't
what's his what's it's i'm talking about fucking
salas no
here's the thing is like when they were making
revenge of the Sith would anyone
care
just in general
just in general across the board
would anyone give his shit
you know what I'd rather
see
um Darth Vader
We also can't forget, of course, one of the fattest heroes in cinema, Porkin's.
Of course.
Yes, fat hero.
Fat legend.
That war hero.
That's how you fix revenge.
Just by the way.
Absolutely.
As you make the fucking emperor fat as fuck.
Oh, dude.
Just a huge, like the fat vampire from Blade.
Oh, wow.
I love that.
How about Porkins joining the rebellion and they're like, well, you're about yourself?
I don't know.
You're kind of a fat guy.
How about Porkins?
You know, I can't use your real name.
Social Security Empire traces that.
I do,
I was mildly amused by
Karina trying to explain to them
science. Like, she's trying to explain to pirates
what astronomers are. And she also says that she's a
horologist. Yeah. Which I don't know what that means, but they all keep
thinking she's saying that she's a whore. Yeah, a prostitute.
It's a real fun joke. And it goes on
forever. But there is a lot
of, because her whole thing
is like, she's an astronomer and like
the map is in the stars and blah, blah, blah.
Like, it's a map no man
can reach. Like, yes, because the woman can
read.
A little something there.
But yeah, we should say that the map
is, she's following the stars.
Yes. Is the idea.
She's analyzed this Galileo journal or
whatever the fuck that is.
And has determined that they got to follow
this course with the stars and everything.
Meanwhile, now, Barbosa has indeed tracked them down so he will not be murdered when we come back from the flashback.
And instead, Salazar starts racing down to get Sparrow because they are also heading towards land is the idea.
Hangman Bay.
Yes, which I think might be from the ride.
Is that right?
That sounds right.
I'm going to read it out.
You know what?
I just, you know, I took a cue from Andrew.
Right after I watched this, I put on YouTube and I watched someone film.
going through the ride.
Oh, yeah.
That ride fucking sucks.
Yeah, right?
It's terrible.
It looks boring as shit.
Like nothing happens.
There's no hang men there.
I'll say it again.
It is just a wet hall of presidents.
It really is.
I mean, if I was there,
I would totally do it because it's like the kitch factor of it all.
But I saw a version that had blackbeard in it and Jack Sparrow.
Oh, is it Ian McShane blackbeard?
Yeah, but it's only like voiceover and he's like projected on like,
like a mist or a waterfall thing
before you go into like another
section of the ride.
Interesting. I didn't notice that part. I just love that
the, maybe I already am
reusing this joke, but the
the Jack Sparrow puppet that
is in that ride sounds like one of the
like broken robots at Chuckie
cheese. It's the real
doll with his real dick. That's what they got it from.
Disney land after
duck. Oh, fuck yeah.
Dude, get out of the park kid.
I mean, if it's between a dry hall of presidents and a wet hall of presidents, guess what I'm taking.
I mean, that's a great point.
I'm taking wet.
I mean, because I went to the dry hall of presents and that shit sucked.
Yeah, why would you want to do that?
A more, it's about to get so much better, kids.
A fun, kitsy thing to do at Disney that's very similar.
It's another animatronic thing is something of the future.
It's like, it's basically, it's like 20 minutes.
You're just kind of watching all these animatronics learn what the future is.
It's kind of fun. Isn't that the world of tomorrow?
The world of tomorrow. Thank you very much.
But isn't it like incredibly dated? Because it was like conceived in the 60s.
Exactly. That's that's the that's the kitchfactor.
Oh, the kitchfactor.
Oh, yeah. Like, oh, well, now we have all. I could use a microwave.
Like that kind of stuff.
I think that's part of that the center of that Tomorrowland movie.
Oh. Oh, is that right? I have not seen a second of that movie.
And I kind of don't even know what it's about.
It's there's parts of it that aren't bad, but it's,
a really stupid movie.
You know, that's funny.
When I was working at Showtime,
what distributor was that?
Was that Disney?
That's Disney.
They just sent it to me for free on Blu-ray as like,
hey, thanks to the business,
blah, blah, and I still haven't fucking watched it.
That sounds about right.
George Clooney's like the fucking Wizard of Oz
in that movie or something?
He's like some godlike engineer.
It's not worth talking about,
honestly.
Fair enough.
What is worth talking about is the too little too late,
very dumb zombie sharks that happen.
What are they?
Right here.
So Salazar is
pissed off because they're not
going to make it to
sparrow in time.
And by the way, the
pirate ghosts also cannot
step on dry land. Have you heard
of that one yet? Yeah.
But these sharks, they're in the ship.
They push them out into the water. It's like
was he a fucking
shark enthusiast in life?
Was he like, oh yeah, and I'm collecting sharks
to bring back to Spain? Yeah,
I don't know. Or if like they found these things
in the devil's
triangle and
I don't know they took
devil shark
I don't know it is
sort of weird that they're just hanging out in
the you know undercarriage of the
ship or whatever
but so he Jack Sparrow winds up
fucking kind of water
skiing with one of these sharks
he saves the kid who's
like swimming his way to shore
Karina has already been like hey fuck you two
because that fucking crazy
pirate that's coming for us only wants
Jack Sparrow they don't care about me
I'm going to swim to shore.
And then, yeah, everybody just, it's, you know, unable to step on land.
I do love that her reaction is just screaming ghosts.
Yeah, it's about right.
It's finally a real fucking reaction to some of this paranormal stuff.
This is when, for some reason, we have this dumb wedding scene.
This is, I, uh, I don't know.
We've been talking about like, oh, we've been looking forward to this movie because it is the shortest of the movies.
It's still two hours and nine minutes, and I know which nine minutes I would cut.
You know what I mean?
I just don't get it.
I don't understand why this has to be.
The guy that he meets, who he owes money to, it seems, is named Pig Kelly.
Good old pig, dude.
Do they all get like animal names?
That'd be kind of cool.
Yeah, sure.
Like if you live on this island, do you mean?
Yeah, horse gibbs.
So this is animal crossing?
they get to an animal crossing island so pig Kelly is like look I will wave your god damn
the money you owe me's gone but you have to do something worse you hear me you have to marry my
ugly sister you hear that and out comes there's nothing but trouble fucking reject yeah dude
totally and then I just when she makes her debut I wrote in my notes what is with this
Well, I think the thing is, half of it was, like, originally it's written just as a fat joke.
But like, well, we got to do it.
We got to make a fat joke.
People get mad.
So, like, what if she's, like, throwing up the whole time?
Like, okay.
And I think she is, what is the, like, disease you get when, like, all you're eating is.
Yeah, yeah.
She's definitely suffering from scabies, which is just disgusting.
And she's got kids, mate.
I don't do kids.
Yeah.
Love savvy.
Oh, right.
She's like, you're going to have to raise each.
little once and she's like some widow or something.
I mean,
never have I been more thankful to see Jeffrey Rush's Barbosa in all my days than right now.
He just murders this dude and like they kind of get away and they're like, well,
and Barbosa reveals that he's double crossing Salazar and that he wants to try it for himself
or whatever the fuck and yada, yada yada,
rule the seven C's.
But first we have to have a ship and Johnny Debs like, oh yeah, I got this thing from the last
movie. Remember that? Remember this?
You hear about this?
Yeah, I got the Black Pearl, but it's stuck in a ship, a ship in a bottle.
It's kind of like that police song, right?
And I've never been able to get it out.
He's like, well, you didn't have me magic's yard.
And I'm like, dude, can I go, can I leave?
It's like this movie, like the movie really is not.
Can I get partial credit for this movie?
It does not at any point really reference that last movie until this moment.
And he's got to be like, yeah, remember how I took black.
Blackbeard's ship and his magic sard.
Well, here it is again.
I'm like, yeah, I guess vaguely from last week, I remember that.
Continue.
I would rather you do a Jay Leno routine then bring that up again, honestly.
You know what that movie was?
Jesus Christ.
It's just useless to do.
Just have it.
It happened.
It got stolen.
We got a pirated back from other people, whatever.
Or in the beginning of the movie, he's just got the black pearl.
And that's it.
Like, it happened.
Oh, well, we sure did solve that problem.
in between these movies, you know what I mean?
That's why, like I said last week, man,
it would have been better in that previous
movie if he just
fucking uncorked the bottle.
I wonder what this is going to do. And the
fucking ship came out and then you wouldn't have to worry
about this. Right, and there were more bottles
and I guess that's where Barbosa's
fleet came from. Of course.
That makes sense. Yeah, so they did the
thing that I was saying they should have done
at the end of the last movie, I guess. But didn't Gibbs
have all of the... He had all the bottles.
Oh, man. You're right. I think he only
stole the black pearl. No, no, no. Gibbs has a whole bag.
Johnny Depp has the black pearl and Gibbs has the bag of them. Yeah, because
there's something in that last movie where he says to Gibbs like, oh, I set you free or
whatever. And everyone thinks that Gibbs like ran off into the jungle. Got it really went back
and stole all the ships. You know, next movie, Gibbs is the lead. Okay. And he's got tons of ships and
he's the cool motherfucker. Pirates of the Caribbean colon, Gibbs. It's going to be less money. So you can get
actually Jay Leno for your cameo
instead of Paul McCartney
or they should definitely do that since David Letterman
was in Cabin Boys.
Oh yeah, a little tit for tat.
We should say because it's
been so long since we started this series
a year and a half ago
they have announced that they are bringing
this series back, but with Karen
Gillen is the lead. So maybe Gibbs is going to be
hanging out Karen Gillen. Maybe.
Oh, I didn't hear this news.
Karen Gillen from them their Marvel movies?
Yes, and Doctor Who as well.
Oh, sure, of course.
Remember, Steve, everyone on the show has American citizenship.
We're not legally allowed to give a shit about Doctor Who.
Yeah, no, I think she's rad.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
But so, is she playing a pirate?
We just know that she's in it and Johnny Depp most likely isn't,
although I'm guessing Stinger scene, but that's just me.
I'm just going to call it here.
Stinger scene or a Keith Richards-esque cameo maybe.
If the first one does well, he'll come.
come in for the second one. For sure.
Yeah, you know, it'll be, it'll be like
Stinger's seen Johnny Depp's
hat and then it's like, oh,
what's going to happen?
Yeah, definitely.
Then they could pay him in the next one.
He's on a Rocky Mountain with all
these weird nuns and she hands
his hat back to him
on a cliff.
I'd be down, dude.
They got out of the black fucking pearl.
Yeah, they get on the pearl. Jeffrey
Rush has a good line here. Time to race
the dead. The monkey shows up, by the way.
which also leads me to wonder, like, what about everybody else?
Like, did everybody abandon ship but the monkey?
Or is, like, or McKenzie Kirk and all those people dead or what?
Yeah, there's just a bunch of skeletons in there.
Yes.
And the monkey was still cursed, I guess, so he's okay.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know where we left off with the monkey.
I don't care.
Yeah, they sink the little boat and all the little bodies start floating on the water.
Like little, just these little dead bodies.
I love it. Little skeleton. It's adorable.
So they have, you know, there's some stuff with like
Karina, you know, coming to grips
with there being more out in the world than science
kind of a thing. We do have
the weakest part of this movie is that
they insist on keeping the British
Navy cold, cold, cold
on their trail. They're not even in the
movie. I don't even know. I mean, but it's
awful because they cut back to
the guy at this point.
You're Lord of the Rings fella.
David Wenham. And he goes, and it's like, it's one of those things where I do have to say
this movie is not as hard to follow as some of these other pirates movies. Yes, absolutely.
And you do not need the check-in with another like tertiary character. And they cut to this guy and he goes,
those pirates are going for the Trident. And I'm like, dude, fucking no shit. And who are you anyway?
They should do like get Jack Sparrow to the 13 colonies or something.
Oh, that could be something. Oh, yeah, that would really be something.
Um, but yeah, so this is where we start, uh, well, I mean, this, this sequence is where
we learn that Karina is Barbosa's daughter. Uh, he notices the diary. Where'd you get that?
You know, she's like, this is my birthright. I was left on, you know, orphanage steps with it or
whatever. Um, and this is where a barbos is like, oh, no. And he has a conversation with Johnny
Depp, who is now tied up up to another mast. And he talks to him and he's like, I knew. And Johnny
up's like, I know who that is. Isn't that
something Smyth, who we used to
know in the old days? And he's
like, yeah, but she
died and we left the baby at the
orphanage.
And my,
the orphanage. My question
is, timeline wise,
when did he have this relationship?
Because like, he's an
older dude. Yeah, but I mean, she's
20. You know what I mean? Like, this is the question.
You know what I mean? Well, dude, I mean,
fucking Tony Randall had a kid at
86. No, wait. So 10 years
10 years ago were the events,
wait, no, nine years ago
were the events of On Stranger Tides.
No, no, no, 19 years ago
because it fucking, right?
No, no, no, no.
There is a part in this movie
where Jeffrey Rush
I think it's actually
right before he
frees the pearl from the bottle.
He says to Johnny Depp
back when we were
dealing with Blackbeard five years ago.
Okay, so that's actually
almost irrelevant. The only thing that matters
is when was Barbosa cursed?
Because I have this timeline right now.
I think because I guess if he comes in the moonlight, they're dead, they're dead sperm.
Yeah, exactly.
Like he couldn't have, because basically Will, Orlando Bloom, had to have been born right around when Barbosa was cursed, right?
Because he's, you know what I mean?
Like Will, in the first movie he's a baby and then he grows up and then blah, blah, blah.
His dad, yada, yada, yada, yada, the mutiny, right?
so that's that's at least like what 30 40 years ago because like there's at least there's there's because he's 20 in the first movie right that's when he's born yeah so that's turner yeah will turner is about call him like 20 years old right okay okay um that's the curse of black pearl and then barbosa is alive again i guess he could have fucked but then johnny jeff wouldn't have known who was the mother was but you're you're you're activating this timeline confusion based off of the assumption that him as a cursed person couldn't
bear a child yeah right yeah i mean no i feel like he couldn't because of that but but so so it's the
the the original trilogy yeah okay yeah well wait here we're and then at the end of the original
trilogy it's like 10 years later they have a boy and then that boy is at the start of this movie
and then it's another 10 years after that so he's got she's got to be 40 or 40 something
i'm gonna take your word for it on this yeah i don't know i don't i got you know you know you know
what numbers they don't don't work for me i did not check to see if any pointed this out on the
goofs tab of imdb because it doesn't make any sense like she he would have especially if he and johnny
depth both knew the woman they wouldn't know the woman in the timeline when barbers is cursed
he he was like fucking raw dog in it right before he got cursed originally okay would that work
oh wait again that's for that's got to be 40 years ago is that's it's how was that 40 years ago
10, so it's 10, okay, so it would be 20 years ago.
Guys, guys, no, no, I got it. I got it.
But you ready? You're ready for this?
Yes.
Nobody in the writer's room gave a flying shit.
They're like, yeah, it's Barbosa.
We got to kill off Barbosa.
She has a daughter who at 20 who fuck years.
That I do it.
Even if what you call, even if Orlando Bloom is 20-ish when he gets, when he dies,
then another 20 years have to pass for where we are now, where Henry's about 20.
well well yeah i guess that's true you know what i mean because like if if orlando blum
it has to stone scars guard sires him before he becomes a skeleton from the events of at
world's end sure this is 20 years later yes roughly so then that's got to be 40 years that
she's got to be in her 40s she looks great yeah i don't i i don't know i that's it that's me i don't
i mean how about this he barbosa fucks impregnate someone right after he's
uncursed. Oh, yeah. I guess
that yeah. Parallel to the events
of he runs
right on, I have to get to
fucking. We got to get like a contact
tracer on fucking Jeffrey Rush's dick and
balls. No, yeah, it'd be the parallel
to the events of dead man's chest because he only
comes in at the very end and the curse is
lifted. Oh, I guess he was having a romance
with somebody else. Okay.
And Jack, as you know, can exist at
two places at once. Okay.
And defies physics and everything we know
about the universe. And he was there,
Chris might be right, but nobody gives the shit
except for me. But I just wanted to bring this up because
I wrote a whole timeline. I'll show a picture of it on Twitter.
It makes some sense.
Well, you better show a picture, dude, because I got
lost at sea with all that year.
With all that year math. It's a real
Pepe Sylvia thing.
Like the end of
True Detective Season 1 in the bunker.
Oh, man. Then you watch the fucking tape
that's got like Barbosa fucking on it.
Oh, yeah.
No!
So, you know what?
The Red Coats arrived and this is the great
Truckosaurus comes out
and fucking totally just goes
to Chow Town on this ship.
All of those, the Navy men
are now officially out of the movie.
Well, I guess, yeah, because
the guy, the only motivation for this guy
is that he wants the Trident so that
England can rule all of the ocean.
And should Will Turner be picking up these
dudes? Yeah, I want to...
I mean, yeah, you got to call the meat wagon.
but yeah so the you know they're all the dead at this point the the dead themselves attack um you know
sparrow and and all these guys it's a big fucking fight there's some decent stuff here i do not
appreciate the masthead coming to life oh my god the steak buff marshmallow man what is that
dude i know i'm saying i'm pro mask man get rid of the truck of source make it just this fucking weird
mask man. Dude, I mean,
the only thing that was missing was this thing being like
bro, ro. Like, it doesn't make any noise at all,
which is, I guess, kind of eerie, but I would just love it. It was like grunting
after Johnny Depp. Can we talk about the most disgusting thing
I've ever seen? Which is this scene where
they need to, Gibbs needs, Daddy Gibbs
needs to pick a lock. And they
fucking go, Stephen Graham
has a dumb and dumber-esque toenail.
that they rip out of him
Siriana style
and pick the lock with it
and it's insane and disgusting
and I wanted to end immediately
but this is a theme in these movies
it's all about this nasty tow shit
we do love to shit
I also will say my favorite laugh
in this entire series
that's actual from the movie
is when it's right before the British show up
and like Gibbs sees them
and he's like hey Stephen Graham
you're the captain
now and he puts the hat on he's like
he's happy he's game all right and they
smash cut to him getting this shit
kicked out of him. It's the funniest thing
I've ever seen. It's really
great and this Stephen Graham's fucking selling
it too man they are kicking his ass
it's awesome. But the
masthead dude kind of great thing so like
Jack Sparrow and Salazar
on the outsides of the ships were kind of like
swinging around all the cannons which
was pretty cool. He does have a
side show Bob falling and
hitting his nuts on the tube thing. Sure.
which is kind of whatever.
I mean, you're not getting out of these kinds of movies
without at least one nut trauma scene.
It's genius.
But dude, Eric's favorite character
in the franchise, Masked Man.
Love Masked man.
Gets fucking shot the face with a cannon.
Yeah.
This was pretty cool.
And all like the wood chips go flying.
Okay, so imagine like earlier in the movie
when that first ship gets taken down by Truckasaurus
if it was just a giant wooden man running through the ocean.
It's kind of fun.
By the way, speaking of which,
we didn't mention that Salazar's
men can walk on water.
Oh, right. That's kind of fun.
Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty sweet. Jesus Christ shit.
They're stepping on fishes.
Is that?
Oh, no, I didn't get that. I didn't see that.
There's a scene. You teach a man to step on fishes.
No, there's a...
You can step on fishes his own life.
When they're getting off the, they're chasing Johnny Depp with the sharks.
There's a shot from underneath the water.
And you see the, there's little fish that come to each one of their feet.
So they're fucking Aquaman now?
They're Aquaman as well.
I don't like that.
I said, I said eight things.
You needed two or three.
Yes.
Well, there's also a gem island coming up, which I don't need.
Right.
No, that's rad.
We'll disagree about that in a second.
It's super cool, but it's also.
Just make them ghosts.
We could walk on water as a ghost.
Fine.
I believe it.
I don't need no fish shot,
although I got to rewash this movie now to look out for these fishes.
You could just fast forward to that part.
Well, here's the thing in five weeks.
We'll get to this movie again.
That's a real.
Right, right. Of course. I completely forget.
Didn't even think about it.
How many times in a row
do you think we would need to do
these movies before people actually came to our
house and killed us? Like,
it would be, it would honestly be
right at the start, I would say, of the second
time we did Dead Man's Chess.
Probably. And that man would be, like, that's it.
And that person would be me.
But so Henry is grabbed
by Salazar. Salazar
and his crew obviously cannot run aground.
So they kind of cut and run.
The pearl runs the ground.
But this is when he's like, I'm going to possess Henry.
And the guy's like, but you can't, then you can't not possess him ever again.
And it's like, but trident.
And it's like, oh, okay.
Okay, Trident.
Okay, Trident.
Sure, whatever, Trident.
Whatever you say, Trident.
Yeah, this whole possession thing does not work.
Are you sure you don't want to bubble yum instead?
But so the sun rises and this island lights up and, you know, Karina explains that the island is a perfect reflection of the sky.
So like all the jewels and stuff are mapped out to look like the stars.
It's cool.
I mean, it reminds me very much of that one very brief shot in the third movie when there, when the sea is so clear, you can see the stars and also like the ship is.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, like the visuals in this movie, I think, you know, are kind of a kind of about.
but so like the little
jewel piece that's been on
this Galileo journal is actually
a missing jewel from this thing
she's like oh there's all these red jewels around why isn't
that pile lighting up and they go over
and you know Barbosa
gives it to her she puts it in
and everything all these jewels
light up gives her the gem
oh right I was not saying fucking his own daughter
I zoned out there for a minute
if anyone was going to fuck his own daughter
it'd be Barbosa wouldn't it though
yeah I guess absolutely
I don't know
man, the monkey's right there.
So everything lights up
the Trident fucking blasts out of the
water right here. Thank you Trident.
You want the monkey to fuck her?
We should say that Johnny Depp
threatens to eat the monkey. I mean,
that's monkey pizza right there, my friends.
Dude, it shit makes you
crazy. That's right. T. Public,
we got a monkey pizza shirt. I'm not
joking. That's the thing is you have to
stew the monkey for a while so you can shred
the meat to put on the pizza.
Oh, for sure. Yeah. It's a
day braise. You want pulled monkey.
yes exactly
you do want pulled monkey by the way
this trident we're seeing here
looks like shit
it does not look good
not good I was not into it
it looks way more like
shit fucking
a bunch of cree would hold or something
than their Marvel movies you know
very much like a video game where you're like
oh cool I'm in the last level and then like
a cinematic happens and they're like oh I guess
it's not the last level because everything changes
and they wind up going into this
underwater grave kind of
area. This was kind of rad
I thought like the sea sort of parts
and everything. It was a cool visual. I like
later there's like an anchor going down there
it's pretty neat but I don't
need Salazar possessing Will
Turner and then being knocked in and out
of his body. That's yeah
that's the line I was referring to earlier
when they're like
but you can't put yourself into Turner
you'll be trapped in his body forever and he goes
the trident will help me.
And I was like what? How
How do you know?
What are you talking about?
I tried it. No, no, no, the trident.
A trident.
But yeah, so they say, you know, he says, you cut me, you cut the boy, Jack, you know.
So they're fighting around on the, it is the bottom of the ocean.
The sea is just sort of separated right now.
Trial separation for the sea.
And then I guess the water, as it's like closing in, the other, the rest of Salazar's guys kind of go to the bottom of the ocean, kind of try to help and fight and stuff.
So they're all kind of there too.
They're like the rasslers and a tag team thing waiting to get tagged in because they can't go.
It's technically on land.
So they can't come out of the water wall and help out Salazar.
Yes.
And so Salazar fighting with Jack Sparrow all over the place.
He's using the Trident to like fly Jack all over.
This is a little too cartoony for my taste.
Oh, for sure.
And so the idea is I don't know how they come to this conclusion.
But if you break the Trident, you're going to break every curse at sea.
and so they
do literally that
she breaks the Trident
everyone is restored
that's part of Salazar's steamer
you see Bardam
turns back to normal looking
Javier Breddem which is pretty great
wouldn't you like the same thing
with Will Turner as well
and all these curses that are going to get broken
the curses are just the dead living still
so they'd just be dead
you know what I mean like
Will Will got murdered by
on a ship
right you know fucking Salazar got murdered
on a barge she just live
have a chart for this one too? No, I don't.
But living is the curse. They would be dead.
They would just be dead. Living, living is the curse.
I'm learning that very
well. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're not wrong
there. I just want to be clear. It's a dumb pirate adventure
movie. Steve, you are right, but, you know,
whatever. Yeah, it's a dumb pirate adventure.
And in, you know, traditional, like,
Indiana Jones fashion right here, like, oh, this
thing's broken, all these curses are broken. The seawalls are going to start
caving in. And then this
this action sequence, as much
as it is CGI heavy, the
CGI holds up enough, you know, it is
2017, so things look a little better.
It's pretty rad, but Barbosa swings
in on the anchor. You got Gibbs
fucking driving the pearl.
And they're basically dropping the anchor to
pull them out before the water
kills them. Yeah.
Pretty big anchors, by the way. I didn't know that
huge anchors. Yeah.
But it's
Russell Crow's
cameo.
But it's, it's
you know, it's kind of red. They all get on the anchor. Salazar
is like, hey, all my
men, go fuck yourselves. I'm getting on
this anchor too to kill these people and get out of here.
All these dudes die
as the water starts caving in
and they're climbing up this chain to get
up to the ship. There's
a lot of, you know, who's going to fall. Salazar
is going to pull whoever.
Carina notices. Barbosa has
a tattoo of the star chart.
Dude, this is a hipster tattoo. I'm sorry.
This is like a barista's tattoo.
It absolutely is this. I love it. I love it.
love the it's just simple line work although honestly dude man
pirate tattoos at the time i mean all you're really doing is like basic
line work anyway i think it is it is funny though because while i think it's a
legit tattoo for a pirate to have it's definitely now just a barista
line tattoo absolutely we've all been through this experience together now five
movies should we all get this tattoo oh yeah definitely i would i would i would get that star
tattoo if you guys all got it like the lord of the rings cast
Yeah, only
only way more pathetic.
Or suicide squad.
More like it. Oh, what? They just got
tattoos that's in suicide on them? I forget what it
was, but they, like most of them
got tattoos other than Will Smith, smart
guy. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Thanks,
no thanks. Wow, that's a really cool tattoo. What is that?
Me and my friends watched five movies
over five weeks.
Get out.
Yeah, so, you know,
she sees the tattoo. It's kind of a, it's a
sweet-ish line, you know, she says,
who am I to you? And he says,
treasure. Treasurer. He
really gives it to it. Oh, sure. It's a great
Jeffrey Rush delivery. Yeah.
And I think he knows like, okay, this is
the last time I'm going to be able to speak like a pirate.
I really got to do it up. Yeah.
So, you know, he
jumps down on Salazar. Kind of
rad, actually. Because I believe
it's, it's, Sparrow drops
Barbosa sword. Yeah.
And then he runs down like, we're going to hell
tonight. Well, his cartoon character does.
Oh, sure. Oh, sure.
He looks very trim in this scene and this scene alone.
Yes, you're totally right.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, you got out of the entire body suit you were wearing with his movie.
Well, it's a thing.
It was a trick to think that I was fat.
I'm a spry man.
It's a thing where I didn't even know who it was.
And then I was like, oh, I guess that's Barbosa.
Because he's not wearing the hair either.
We've never seen him without the wig.
Yes, exactly.
I got to say, I would love it.
If you go, you go to Jeffrey Rush, you know, he goes to his neighborhood butcher, you know, he's just, it's today, you know, he's, he's living a quiet life now.
And he just goes in and he's like, Ar, two pounds of flank.
Oh, sorry, sorry. Sorry. Sam. I'm sorry. It just happened sometimes. I miss the work. I'll be honest with you. I just miss the work.
The pirate work. Honestly, I would, if they did like a like a side movie, like this is what Barbosa was up to when he was fucking, you know, making children.
whatever. I would watch that. I would watch
a Jeffrey Rush solo
pilot movie. Barbosa
solo outing, yes. I think he might be getting
a little too old, but I definitely agree.
I think he's the best part of these
movies, hands down. Deage him like
like in Jack Sparrow. You know what, then
maybe not. So he
makes the ultimate sacrifice. They fall back
down. Kind of fucking grader. Do you guys
catch Salazar hitting this anchor?
Oh, yeah. Oh my God, dude.
He's like propeller guy in Titanic.
we to D.H. Jeffrey
for these new Pirates
Barbosa series, we had to use
older Jeffrey Rush movies
that we only had quills.
So we used his dick.
And of course now we have the designs for
a Barbosa, real doll,
that everybody's got to want to buy it.
Flying off the shelves.
It's cheaper or make because it's leg missing.
Sure.
All right. Yeah, let's fucking wrap this up, man.
So he's dead. They all get back on the Pearl
safely.
everybody kind of doffs their hat
to, you know, in memory of Barbosa.
Even the monkey was kind of sad.
I felt bad about the monkey, man.
He lost his best friend.
There's a dumb thing.
It's fucking, I feel like Rise of Skywalker
rip this off. She's like,
Barbosa, my name is Karina Barbosa.
Okay, okay, already.
And they wind up going to shore.
And oops, look, it's
Orlando Bloom is that,
you did it, son.
look at me hey
oh dude it's
it's so weird
I mean
why do they have to wait for him
to show like they're waiting back
like I don't know
he should have popped up at some point
a little earlier
to help them out or something
yeah
he looks like he's gonna fucking
be at a tag match
with the Undertaker at SummerSlam
in the end of this movie man
dude I am telling you right now
I said it last night man
but like because now he doesn't have any
of the barnacle shit on him
it's just Orlando Bloom
in 2017 dressed like a
pirate motherfucker looks like kid rock he does he looks exactly like kid rock because he's got like this
bandana all over his head and he looks like he smells like shit just like kid rock uh you know so
they're like oh you know here here's the carina you know oh that gives a big hug to old daddy does
you know and then what's ridiculous and this is only for teasing the audience expectation
but it actually makes no sense as far as the story is concerned after they're greeted and everything
then like Orlando Bloom looks off in the distance
and here is Karen Knightley running
across this field and I'm like
why didn't the kid wait for his mother
to come down and meet the father? Yeah exactly
Hey mom. Why did they leave her?
Mom's, you know, she's just taking it forever to get dressed
like but dad's going to be here. Dad's
going to be here. You know what mom? Fuck you. I'm going down to the beach.
Meet us out there. It's a fuck you mom
because this is a dad-centric franchise.
Every single movie is like, my dad.
Yeah, you're right. I don't know him. He's probably abusive
but I love it. I also love
where did Scarsgard go?
Well, that's what I was about to say.
Dude, we're not loving all dads in this movie.
No grandpa Scarsguard here. I guess he's back on the fucking ship still.
I don't know.
That was definitely, Scarsguard wanted a shit ton.
I bet, right? Well, you know, the Marvel movies.
You know, I'm on there for two seconds. I get $10 million.
I mean, and I don't think they were going to get Nihi either.
No.
Well, maybe for the sixth movie.
he has been dropping a lot of hints
saying that he wants to come back.
Yes. God damn it.
And what? Come on, that guy's an old.
He's old. He's very, very old.
Well, all he has to do is limp around
to fucking fake ship with a bunch of dumb shit on his face
that they're going to see GII anyway.
Does it matter?
I just love how exasperated Eric is by the idea.
I mean, it's a bad idea, man. I don't know.
Listen, I'm not, I can, I'll do it,
but I'm not going to do the accent. I just need to talk like this.
I'll take it
I don't take it
I'll take it over him
throughout the course of a film
slowly giving up
on a Scottish accent
In this scene
Davy is going to sit in the corner
for a bit
Maybe he'll watch his movie Emma
Okay
I'll do it
But it's not going to be
The CGI technicals
We're going to make them
With straws
And tape them to my face
We've got to change it up a bit
Now fellas don't we
9 out of 10 stars
would recommend
It's just him wearing straws on his face
What if
What if Davy Jones has straws on his face
Then he never stands up
You got a dude
Next movie man
Michael Cain pirate
If that's the case
Oh I can sit down the whole time eh
All right
He got a throne of strows
What if Davy Jones is cursed
At a holiday in sweet
I think Chris is on to something with this straw stuff
because guess what? This idea? It sucks.
Oh, wow. There you go.
So that's it with them. They're all reunited and whatnot.
And then in the distance is Captain Jack Sparrow.
Once again, you know, Captain of the Pearl, everything is right with the world.
And, you know, here's Gibbs asking what the course is.
He's got the respect to the crewback, which happens.
But it's also, again, like if that's the point of the movie, we need to make that a little bit firmer.
we got to flesh that out a little bit
like everyone's like oh jack you really
did it this time or like
he's tempted to go to a bar
something something something you know yeah
yeah um but he does have
a he Gibbs like pulls out a map
and then he's like no no Mr. Gibb you know
I'm navigating by the stars on this one
Gibb kind of hilariously just throws the map
away which is pretty funny
I want it but he does have kind of a nice line here
it's I have a rendezvous beyond my beloved horizon
and pretty okay send-off, I think, for this.
It doesn't end with yo-ho-ho, ho, whatever the fuck.
The monkey fucking has one last gag there.
Oh, right.
It scares him again.
Yeah, it's the whole thing.
But now he's barbed, like the monkey is going to be his now, it seems.
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
Now they're buds.
He doesn't want to eat him anymore.
And he goes off with his rendezvous for the beloved horizon.
And that is the end of the movie until two things happen, one of which is somewhere buried deep
at the end of the credits, there's just someone credited
as woman. Okay.
So that was pointless. Let's
call this person anything else, please.
And then this stinger scene,
man. It sucks ass. It sucks. It sucks.
It's ass. Just don't have a stinger. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, if you want to bring back Davy Jones in the next movie,
figure it out next time. You know what I mean?
Right. Also, because you've already let me down the stinger with fucking
Penelope Cruz already. You've got no
Stinger credibility anymore.
But, but Marvel has stingers.
have to have a stinger yeah it's like to do well chris this had stingers first oh that's true
well so this stinger is will turner is having a nightmare uh that um you know it's like who's at the
door they're both sleeping in bed uh door opens and you see in the shadow it's clearly the squid
person davy jones which makes no sense because i thought all these curses were fucking broken
and he's dead
like his his curse was he was already
oh that's right he was already replaced
he was already replaced as davy jones
he fell into the ocean he's fucking dead
he's dead so i forgot about
that i forgot that's right
um so he wakes
up it's like oh it's just a dream
okay and he like rolls over and he
you know sort of spoons uh elizabeth swan
there uh and then the camera
just sort of we sort of like just tilt down
here and i guess
it's pieces of barnacle
on the floor. This is right
this is right before we do get one
quick shot of a big lobster claw
that's all wet nasty. Oh yes
I'm a lobster claw. Right. Part
of the nightmare is he sees that. Yeah, you're
totally right. But yeah, it makes no
fucking sense from what you have already done in these
movies. I don't get it. The only thing I can think of is
the movie is very horny, very pervy. There's
a lot of sex jokes throughout. Sure.
And this is almost directly
how basic instinct ends.
Like almost
exactly. Yeah. Instead of
you know instead of barnacles it's a rolling around ice pick sure but like it's it ends with michael
douglas insurance stone like about to go at it again and then the camera literally does the same
thing the camera does in this movie and just goes down chris did i accidentally watch an erotic
thriller right now i think you did okay i think we accidentally watched an erotic franchise to be
honest i think i just thought of a logic loop that we could get davy jones back so day so now
orlando bloom is free of that curse and he's back home right
So I guess maybe there always has to be a Davey Jones, so it brings back the old Davy Jones.
Oh, fine.
Bill Nihis just like at the bottom of the ocean enjoying being dead.
And then it's like, oh, no, not again.
Eric, you're about to get a phone call to write the next pirates.
I will do it in a heartbeat.
Absolutely.
Of course we would.
That's the thing with all of this.
Of course we would.
And also, I mean, look, we're experts at this point.
We're getting tattoos next week.
I get fucking pirate tattoos.
Call us up.
Disney.
come on totally uh so that is the end of this movie that is so far the end of this franchise wow
what a journey uh would anybody recommend this movie uh i would not um i think that there's there's more
here that i would have thought for fifth entry for sure it's definitely better than the fourth
movie in terms of direction and most things but the last act and a lot of the choices they make are
so silly and so stupid and tedious it's just it's a no it's a no for me let's rank the franchise as
we do this as well. I would go
one, two, because
you got to give Verbinski the second one too
just because I feel like I love
the Bill Nahi design and a lot of the crack
and stuff is, it's all bad. First of all, I don't
like any of these movies, to be clear.
One, two, five,
four, three. And I,
somebody else had asked this question
on Twitter, which is, would you
rather watch a, are these worse
in the Transformers movies? They are not.
I would rather watch any of these movies in the Transformers
movies. I agree.
Oh, wow.
one of the time here. Let's Steve
Sade Eckman. I don't like any
of these movies and I don't like any of the Transformers movies
but I would watch most of these
movies before all of those Transformers
movies. That is me.
Chris Cabin, how you feel? Oh,
it's awful. Don't watch it.
I guess like we didn't
even get to all the sex jokes. Like literally
Johnny Depp at one point
he sees the noose and he's like,
I wish I was hung. Yes, definitely.
And I'm like just Jesus Christ.
So yeah, it all.
sucked. I guess my ranking would be
one, two,
five, three,
four. And I
prefer Transformers
wholesale to this.
Wow. Wholesale.
Because Michael Bay is going
for it and it's stupid and awful
and makes my ears hurt, but
it's like he's going for,
that's Michael Bay at his like full
bloom and I'm there for it.
I like seeing him having fun.
Whereas you get Bay back in the ocean,
Pearl Harbor, but for this next one.
Yeah, get him to do this Pirates movie.
It'll be great.
No one.
You know, I would, I mean, I'm not going to really recommend it, but you could do worse in this
franchise.
There was some interesting stuff there.
I didn't mind it as much as some of the others.
My ranking is actually exactly Steve's as one, two, five, four, three, and I would
much, much rather revisit all these movies, which will be.
doing starting next week. No, I guess
we're not. But
over the Transformers movies, I really just
I detest
the Transformers series.
There you go.
Here's the thing. I would
recommend this movie. I feel
like I have sat through
a lot of crap
and this is also crap.
But it's crap that I liked.
It's crap that I could follow.
I wasn't confused. I did not
need any character telling me what was
going on and stop in the movie. It's
action set pieces that I can see.
They're competently lit and edited
so I can follow everything.
And there are some legitimately
really good action scenes, well
directed action scenes in this movie.
Would recommend
and I am
15243. That's me.
And yeah, this
franchise time and again over the Transformers.
I cannot tell you
much I despise those movies.
And because of the main reason that I just
said that I sort of liked this movie, which
is that I cannot follow the action
scenes in those movies. It's just
too much. And there's
a lot of too much here. Like, don't get me wrong. There's also
a lot of bad here. But just, I don't
know if it's just, I'm exhausted, if it's
quarantine madness or what.
I had a good time with it. I apologize
to the world
at whole for liking a movie.
I think those Transformers
movies like change the movie
logic more from each
movie. Yes. This one's more
consistent at least. This one, you're
right. Those movies always say
oh, don't worry about the last movie that's different
and that always bug me. I kind of
prefer that.
I think if you go back through the episodes
that we've listened to, it's probably, or we've
done, it's probably you complaining the exact
opposite about it. I don't care
I don't need callbacks. I don't
need you to like have some logic for all
this. Like that's, when we're talking about
like her, like the Barbose
a mystery of having a kid
like I really don't get
like I don't think anybody gives a fuck and I don't think
you should act like it matters at all
that's fair no and it doesn't and all that like
all the family shit in this franchise
like I don't think it works
but it's like it's Disney so
they care about that shit more than Paramount
does because they need families to come to their
fucking theme parks and whatnot so
you know I understand why it's there
but yes it's wretched and I don't care about
families that much
but that is it we did it you guys
we did it. We survived
fucking pirate mania.
Thank you for sticking with us.
Thanks to all our guests.
Throughout pirate mania,
Chelsea Jupe and Ben Worcester and Jordane Serrell's.
It was really great to sort of share
the torture a little bit with some folks.
But Steve Sadek next week,
we hate movies, officially
gets into summer blockbuster extravaganza.
And even though you can't really go anywhere
this summer, we will still be hanging out with some bigger titles.
What will we be be rocking?
next Tuesday. We are doing
mid-aughts the Scooby-Doo
movie. That Sarah Michelle
Geller joined, the first one.
Oh, Rutrow. Yeah.
There's more than one? Yeah, this is two.
Scooby-Doo Monsters
Unleashed, I believe, was the second film.
Soar both of these in the
theater. I haven't seen either
of them. I don't think I've ever seen
either of them all the way through. I've definitely seen
chunks enough. Yeah. You're
not missing a thing. We'll be
blowing chunks. Totally. But
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Yep.
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I guess that's totally fun.
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