We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 489 - Scooby-Doo

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

On this week's episode the 2020 Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza kicks off in high fashion with a discussion on the 2002 live-action adaptation, Scooby-Doo! Why did only half the cast know how to play ...their characters? Why did Scrappy-Doo need to be in this movie at all? And who authorized this Sugar Ray cameo? PLUS: Wait, Velma helped develop drone strike technology? WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. Scooby-Doo stars Linda Cardellini, Matthew Lillard, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Freddie Prinze Jr., Rowan Atkinson, Isla Fisher, Miguel A. Núñez Jr., and Neil Fanning as Scooby; directed by Raja Gosnell Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, you better roll a number. It's the start of the summer blockbuster extravaganza with Scooby-Doo, the movie. I'm Andrew Juppin. Riven, Raydak, Sisky do, wrist-rabbing. And we rate movies. Hello everyone, welcome to we hate movies, thank you for tuning in, and thank you for joining in, and thank you for joining us at the very start of the 2020 summer blockbuster extravaganza. We are here talking about the blessedly short 86-minute runtime film Scooby-Doo, the movie from 2002 directed by Raja Gosnell. Have we got any previous episodes from this motherfucker? I feel like there's got to be something.
Starting point is 00:01:16 A lot of them seem like stay tunes. Oh, is this a first movie of his we've done? I don't know. Like, because like Big Mama's house is out there. Oh, sure. It's out there. It's out there. And I mean, there's other, if you look at the guy's filmography, it's Rick with it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah. Oh, well, never been kissed. That's an okay movie. Oh, hey, Scooby-Doo, too, Monsters Lois. Show dogs. Oh, both Smurfs movies. Beverly Hills Chihuahua. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but if this movie is the monsters being leashed, I would hate to see what Unleashed is.
Starting point is 00:01:54 The Monsters Unleashed is just pornography. It gets hornyer. It definitely gets a lot hornier. Ooh, the yours, mine, and ours remake, Home Alone, 3. Oh, do you know how he got all this? He used to be Chris Columbus's editor. That's, yes, we've seen him, I think, yeah, I feel like I've seen it. I think he edited Home Alone, right?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, Home Alone, Home Alone, 2. Oh, Mrs. Doubtfire, nine months, Miracle 34th Street. We have to keep the Donald Trump cameo in this. Oh, wait, that's the part two. Fuck. Well, he did also edit that, so. Oh, there we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Chris, we got to keep the Donald Trump. Yeah, this is a movie I have not revisited since the year 2002. I did see this in theaters. Well, don't owe me. You know exactly where I'm coming from. Cabin. It was fucking the multiplex days, man. See it for free. Sure, I didn't see this until about a year ago. Oh, well, good for you.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It is good for me. I make this fucking movie. I don't think I've ever sat down and seen this movie, but I've watched this is like a big HBO movie, you know what I mean? You're putting around the house. I feel like I've watched like 30 minutes of this movie, a couple times. I bet you Warner Brothers was putting out the fucking streaming rights
Starting point is 00:03:01 for this title fairly cheaply. Like, oh, you want to play Scooby Doo the movie? Yeah, go right ahead. $10.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I feel like I saw this in the theater as well. I think it was just like a disappointed walk to the food court afterwards. There was a lot of, I used to roll up
Starting point is 00:03:16 to the theater and see what I didn't even look at what was playing and I would go to the nearest whatever time wise and it was a bad move. Did Taco Bell have a Ruby Roe Ross for this?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Uh, I don't, was there a food tie in anywhere? I don't recall. It would have been awesome, but I don't recall. It does have a music video, uh, tie in, which I highly suggest everybody look for the video for Outcast's land of a million drums. Oh, is this what you, is this what you texted us? I did. Yes. I ignored that completely. Yes. It is perhaps the only time you will see Killer Mike go full Adams family value rap. Uh, it like he's just rapping about. Scooby-Doo. Right, because he does the it's like they took the song and they made it in the Scooby-Doo sound track and like he's got a verse where it's just like, Scooby's doing this and eating Scooby Snacks and we're going over here and solving a mystery. Scooby-Doo's cool. Dumb question.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Killer Mike was an outcast? No, he was just, he's from Atlanta. But he just joined on. Okay, guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's the outcast song and then he just does this other verse about Scooby-Doo. Now, Cabin, though, was Atlanta A Thousand Drum's just a separate song without the Scooby-Doo stuff?
Starting point is 00:04:27 or no. No, I don't, it might have been on, they had that greatest hits record with like two new songs and this might have been on that. The only way you could listen to this song is with that Scooby-Doo. Yes. Okay. I would, I love to the idea of like buying like the, the complete works of outcast of being furious that the Scooby-Doo song isn't on it. I mean, I don't think there is a complete works of outcast, but there might be. A quick question around the horn, uh, because we're doing animation, damnation, we're of course doing Scooby-Doo this month as well, so we'll talk about that a little bit there, but I'm curious about
Starting point is 00:05:01 are you guys, anybody grew, how did, what's everybody coming to Scooby-Doo with in terms of like, did you watch this as a kid? Did you not? Do you hate it? You love it. This is probably why I didn't run out to see. I watched maybe three episodes. Oh, wow. Wow. Like, I really just did not
Starting point is 00:05:17 latch on to this one. Oh, yeah. It was big in our house. I mean, and like, I've seen like, you know, the traditional Scooby- do where it's like kind of what this movie is based off i've also seen the fucking gimmick shit where they're like rolling around with the harlem globetrotters or fucking batman and robin are hanging out like we had it on a lot i don't remember what station aired it though i mean it was everywhere because it was just indication at that point i'm trying to think of like where these
Starting point is 00:05:45 yeah like where did these things live before like cartoon network oh okay that's a good question because i remember cartoon network used to religiously play scooby-doo in the mornings yes uh eric you're thoughts on Scooby-Doo? They're negative. All I have are negative Scooby thoughts. I thought, I mean, I watched it a bunch growing up. Like, I couldn't, probably,
Starting point is 00:06:07 I've probably seen 100 episodes of the old shit, but I couldn't really tell you much details at all. I mean, I was just more of the McGillagherillagher show fan. What the world? I mean, I did, hey, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. What is that? It's a type of
Starting point is 00:06:24 guerrilla. It's a kind of gorilla. You see him all over Hanna-Barbera properties when they all get together. His name is McGillagher. A McGillah is not a type of gorilla. I don't know this character. No, I was correcting it because Chris Cabins just flying through this explanation without
Starting point is 00:06:42 clarifying. Well, no, actually, the original title for the White Apes in Congo was McGillers. I actually, I think I really liked Scooby-Doo. It wasn't something I ever was like, oh shit, Scooby-Doo's on an X time. I want to watch it, but since it was on so much. And it is just such a blissful, especially the classic version where it's like, you know, so formulaic and, you know, so iconic. Everybody's doing exactly the thing you expect
Starting point is 00:07:07 to do. I really enjoyed Scooby-Doo as a kid. I also loved as a kid, a pup named Scooby-Doo, which is a little, uh, it was a younger, it was, it was them as younger people, as, like, little kids, but it was like, self-aware a bit. And I was like, oh, this is really smart. That's happened twice now because we did an animation damnation on like a newer Scooby-Doo property and it was similarly very self-aware and I think that self-awareness was it added to the success of that cartoon. Sure. Which I did go back and watch like a couple more of and it's totally entertaining. I don't
Starting point is 00:07:43 remember the actual name of it. Steve, what's the name of this thing? What? What's the name of this thing? A pup named Scooby-Doo. Does he like die? Does it the first Scooby die at the end of this? No, no, no, no. Because that sounds like a cancer movie. You're right. It's a Dennis Crade movie. They kept throwing Scooby in the river. I mean, I think it's a natural, you know, thing for a guy like me to be attracted to that
Starting point is 00:08:08 cartoon. You know, it's a bunch of people solving mysteries. I love a good who done it. A bunch of ghost stuff. I was always fascinated in the paranormal. And one of the fucking major four characters is a lovable stoner who loves dogs. I mean, come on, dude. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:08:22 It's built into my DNA. I just had this big flashback. They used to air this on the Cartoon Network or maybe some other local channel syndication, like at 5 a.m. and like 6 a.m. Oh, wow. And I used to watch it before I got on the school bus at like, my school bus was like 6.30 in the morning. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, me too. But mine was soul just tried to jump out of my body. Mine was guerrilla and bus ride. Guerrilla and friends. Garfield and Friends. Garfield and Fred. Oh. Yeah, they did also air that earlier.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So this movie, it is the first. Live action adaptation of this franchise. We should also say a key thing here, I think, as to some of the bad comedy, not for nothing, written by James Gunn. Yeah, I think that that's, I mean, I think that that's why this movie is as good as it is in italics. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Like, but it's also why it's as bad as it is. Well, and the reason why I highlighted it though, I don't think James Gunn is a bad writer. What clearly happened, and you can read about it a little bit, his script was like way more adult and they wanted go for like actually again more of a winky winky kind of thing which they still do a little bit in the movie
Starting point is 00:09:28 but apparently and again this is just all Tribune Trivia who knows for sure if this is actually true but apparently James Gunn said somewhere that the original cut of the movie garnered them an R rated release. Wow and he recycled all those ideas into slither I think that was the idea
Starting point is 00:09:45 any slither fans out here I saw it once I kind of really enjoyed it's not bad yeah it's okay okay so question about that movie. I never saw it. I was really put off because it was always just like, I think the poster or whatever was like, could you imagine a fat person? No, that's the trailer, Eric. The poster is just
Starting point is 00:10:05 a woman in a bathtub. It was the bathtub with the little creatures and stuff, wasn't it? You know, like, fat bath or whatever that movie is? I was like, no. Fat bath? You'll never survive. The fat bath. Here comes the title wave. You can get it in the tub, but you can't get out.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Fat bath. Yeah, I never said. It's fine. The fat bath is going to pull the plug on you. But so, yeah, so this is this live action thing. I have to say right up front, we start off one of the fave things we have to point out here on this show. The WB logo. Uh-oh, scobs taking a bite out of it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 That's cute, isn't it? Just like McGruff the crime dog. How did I miss that? I feel like this movie more than any lately. I was like checking my phone. I could not. It's like, it's only 86 minutes. Blissful, as you said, but it felt longer than pirates at World's End to me. It does. It does feel like a longer 86 minutes. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I think if we say pirates one more time, our entire audience will unsubscribe. I think that's where we are. We've pushed them to the limit. All right. Chirits. There you go. Byrots, pirates. Ririch. Sappy. Ririts. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Jack Sparrow in this adventure What he gets up to is he falls into a fat bath Becomes a big person And that's horror I'm enormous now, savvy This cold open though Is kind of what I just wish The movie more was
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yes, yes It's a way more traditional Scooby-Doo case They're on the case of the Luna ghost I believe And it's a ghost in a toy factory And I actually like the design of this ghost. It's cool looking. It's a Chiodo Brothers nightmare.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You know what I mean? Like it's fun. It's silly. Chiodo brothers? They did kill a cloned out of space. Oh, I thought you're talking about the Scolari brothers. They were tried for murder and received the chair. But as were the Chiodo Brothers as well.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Okay. That's good to know. I do like the levitation of this thing and it's fun and it's cheesy. But I mean, this cast, this cast is trash. I will say half of this cast I think is trash It's the married couple that's barely trying in this movie I forgot they were married My favorite thing in the trivia
Starting point is 00:12:33 Is that Freddie Prince didn't want to do this at first Because he didn't think he could match The greatness of the tone of the original cartoon He was right It's not Macbeth Like it's fucking Scooby-Doo Cabin he was right I understand
Starting point is 00:12:48 This is Freddie Prince Jr. He couldn't do Macbeth. He couldn't do Fat Tub. He couldn't do Scooby-Doo. Well, this guy, he's been pretty much banished from acting, right? Is that correct? No, he's a massive voice actor now. He's all over those Star Wars cartoon.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Oh, good for him. He's in Star Wars Rebels. He plays a Jedi Master on that. I mean, that shows over now, but I don't know what he's up to later. He's, like, found a home doing voice stuff, though. But I think it's like Lillard and Cardlini have this kind of like, oh, we're going to do the cartoon. it's the cartoon come to life got it
Starting point is 00:13:20 and like Fred has a real voice you don't know what I mean like by our good friend Frank Welker it's like hey hey gang how's it going like that kind of a thing and I did it poorly there but like you could lean into that a little bit you did it better than Freddy does it because he doesn't even fucking try to do it
Starting point is 00:13:36 like you definitely need that like golly G. Willikers yes a doofous attitude and like the way that they make him in this movie is like they solve this case and everything and they're being interviewed by the press and he's this fucking hot stud that everybody wants to s that D
Starting point is 00:13:52 and it's like no he's a fucking goofball and askot what are you talking about? This is also blonde erasure they should have gotten a real arium because that's what fucking Freddie is it's true like and like Daphne's also like just kind of boring and like they don't do anything with it. That's right people don't realize
Starting point is 00:14:10 that in Scooby-Doo mythology Freddie escaped a Nazi castle that was having breeding experiments got it. Castle Wolfenstein. Of course. Spent some time in Argentina and Brazil. It's actually Castle Woffenstein, by the way.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You've got to make dog puns on this episode. Do you know who would have done a better job? And also a better, well, RIP, Paul Walker. And that's a vlog? Yes, absolutely. You know, he would. Hey, oh, that's cool. Let's go get our pink slips.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Hey, gang. Yep, totally. Like, just toss in his like California accent, modify it a little bit. Definitely could have done it. But I kind of also want a hulking brute, though, too. just the design of all these characters is so specific you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:14:54 that's what they try to do that a little bit Lillard gets it is pretty damn close Lillard no Lillard is on it dude I will defend Matthew Lillard in both of these movies and I think his voice acting as Shaggy is also great but in this movie he's got it down to the fucking physicality he's doing the goofy fucking arms and how like Shaggy
Starting point is 00:15:12 like moves his wrist like up and down when he walks like he gives a shit like he actually cares and it comes across on the screen and it's nice and he's interesting to watch because he cares. It is it is a whenever he's not on screen you're like where shaggy kind of a situation. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I mean so much so that like there's a there's a brief moment in the movie where you see so like they they solve this mystery. Fred takes the credit for it they get in a big fight and they'll break up in the parking lot. I do want to be clear the first line of this movie is Sarah Michelle Geller complaining whilst being like
Starting point is 00:15:46 carried by this ghost that She's got a massive wedge because you want to think about that underwear right in that area you guys because that's what we're doing here. This is horny Scooby-Doo, my friend. It is horny Scooby-Doo. And now that we're talking about the clothing,
Starting point is 00:15:59 can we ask what fucking time this is supposed to be? I know, and this is where it's like, are we adapting too literally from the cartoon and making them 1970s? And I know that kind of had a wave back in the early aughts, but it doesn't, it feels, well,
Starting point is 00:16:13 feel out of time. Yeah, well, you know who started that? And correct me if I'm wrong here, but those fucking Brady Bunch movies. Yes. Yeah. That was like the start of that. And in this, it's weird because you're right.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And it's weirder when they like sexify Daphne and Velma. And also Fred, when they're all under like mind control. Yeah. Their clothing is brought into the early aughts and like they just keep the color palettes. Yeah. And it's nuts. It's crazy. It's just like make it set in the aughts or make.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's set in the 70s, which I prefer. That'd be cool. Fucking shaggy on some ludes or something. Hey, man. I think those are getting a little expired, Scoob. He's crawling around like the Wolf of Wall Street. The woof of Wall Street. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. No, it's funny because Sarah Michelle's ass gets way more screen time the first like 10 minutes of this movie than her face starts. Absolutely. Because this ghost is like holding her under its arm And it's like springing all over the place
Starting point is 00:17:21 And the other three are trying to save her And every time they cut to the ghost And you see the ghost like from head on Her ass is just like under her arm It's a real hey I got kids here And it's this weird kind of thing Where they're trying to have it both ways Where they're trying to do a really faithful
Starting point is 00:17:37 Let's bring a cartoon to life Adaptation like the Flintstones movie Right And they're also trying to do the Brady Bunch movie Which I'm glad you mentioned Because that's exactly what this kind of is like that dark ironic like we know the whole trope we're kind of making fun of it man exactly and the beef is you know those brady bunch movies fucking lean into that this movie it it's just a half
Starting point is 00:17:59 measure and when that happens it all just gets watered down yes and that's why i wish they would have let more of this james gun you know more adult script live in the actual final cut the thing that i felt the the movie that i kept thinking about the most is the son of the mask that's like that's the kind of cartoonish world but like the action isn't necessarily cartoonish unless you speed up parts of it which is annoying as shit yeah well they're doing that in this movie because that's like the cartoon and it's also the CGI which is really
Starting point is 00:18:32 which sinks this movie I mean like a fucking stone I remember in 2002 like sitting in the theater watching the movie and being like Scooby doesn't look good but it's like I guess the best that they could do and then like you get those monsters later in this movie, and I'm like, well, that's definitely terrible. Like,
Starting point is 00:18:49 a dog with, like, fur and everything, like in 2002, I get it. That's pretty difficult. We hadn't come that far yet with animation on computers, but this shit, holy crap. It's 2002, and, you know, Saboba just finished, he rapped on Phantom Menace. He wasn't in Attack of the Clone,
Starting point is 00:19:06 so maybe Sabooba could solve some adventures in this. You know, you know? You know, but a southern mystery. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Scoob and the gang have to solve the trade dispute. You know, in 2002, you know, Ross just didn't have the technology to make a good rabbit lizards.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You know? They just didn't have it. Dude, no one would give a shit, but if there were special editions of this movie, I'd be curious to see, like, what they would do with Scooby now. And I should also, because we're talking about, like, you know, how things would be better with new technology or whatever. Has anyone seen Scoob this new thing? No. Yes, it's fine, but I don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:50 What? And it's fully animated, right? Yes, it's fully animated. More for children? More for children, yes. Question to Chris Cab and the Scoob aficionado in the room. Simon Cowell cameo? Yes, it's terrible. It's disgusting. I don't want to talk about it. Can I ask who that is for? That's a fucking brain teaser. Wait a bit. Let me check with my manager. Nobody? Yeah, it's nobody. Yeah, it's nobody. Nobody. For nobody. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I mean, Jesus Christ, just talking about, like, you have this totally fine little Scooby-Doo cartoon. And then here's this thing that's going to date it horribly with having that asshole in it. I mean, I guess people still watch America's got talent, right? I guess. Yeah. Is he on that? He's on one of them. Okay. Was it the X factor? That's the question. I don't know which is which. We should probably save some of this because Scoob might be one of the only movies.
Starting point is 00:20:43 to come out in 2020. So in January, we might be talking about. Yeah, our January is going to be a really fucking interesting month, man. You're not wrong. So this YouTube video, right? So Asylum releases movies that are kind of... Dude, I'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:20:59 speaking of asylum really quickly, so we're all on the Pluto TV kick. Here we hate movies. It is one of the biggest mysteries of my life right now as to how this thing fucking exists. But here it is. And I got to tell you, they got to channel for that.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah. And you're like, why do you need all of that on the channel? If you're me, you might watch a couple of those movies. If you're me, if you're, I like the asylum. Not that I like them, but they're trash. They're fun. Yeah, but it's like, I just, I can't, I cannot abide.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And this is also why, you know, I think like 99% of trauma is terrible. Oh, sure. Like, I can't abide by like, we're intentionally making a bad movie. They don't, I mean, they think they are, but they're worse than they think it is. So it's kind of like this weird snowball thing. Also, it's kind of, you're not allowed to legally put on an asylum movie before 12.45 in the morning. So there is some, there's some stuff going on there.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Steve, I think you and I have to start doing some like Instagram live, like late night. What are we watching on Pluto TV? A night owl show at 2 a.m. Absolutely. Would anybody watch that? I bet our West Coast audience would watch that. so they solve this mystery you know i i will say there's a there's a kind of a funny thing where like shaggy's on a
Starting point is 00:22:18 skateboard and they're floating all around and i had to ask what is this fucking like ska song that they have when he's he jumps on the skateboard it's immediately fucking tony hawk pro skater yes it was so so dating it we were still in the haze of the pop punk revolution some 41 was still out there good charlotte was still out there were they ever i mean 2002, I mean, we are in the, we've said this every time we've visited this area. And obviously, time-wise, this is, we're in the worst timeline. I know that. I'm well aware.
Starting point is 00:22:51 2020 is the worst. But culturally, 2002 was just a void. It was a void. It was terrible. It was really bad. It was really bad because, like, I don't know what could be worse than the fucking diuretic leftovers of the 1990s. And that's what the early 2000s is.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah, it's like the leftovers of the 90s, with that like approaching like that George W. Bush fascism streak and then every single thing is like oh you look at the houses and they're all like painted brown on the inside and every girl's trying to dress
Starting point is 00:23:24 like Britney Spears and I'm just turn it into Russian bomb. But it is I mean that's the thing is it's not the shitty aftertaste or diuretic leftovers of the 90s it's the late 90s and the late 90s were gross. That's what you got.
Starting point is 00:23:40 A lot of ribbed sweaters. In the late 90s, you started to get all the boy bands and all culture suddenly start to feel even more manufactured than it was before. And actually, speaking of manufactured culture, a movie that does exactly what this movie tries to do 20 times better. And actually, whenever this movie is quote unquote saying something, it's just aping Josie and the Pussy Cats, which is a much, much better movie. Oh, I had my fingers crossed. That's what we were going to say. because that movie came out
Starting point is 00:24:11 in the time that it's talking about and does a great job at just fucking brutally making fun of all of that. Yes, exactly. And 30% of it is not a talking jib jab saying, I'm ruby roo. I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:24:27 he looks like shit, doesn't he? He looks, I mean, he looks. He's still lovable, thank God. He is, but like they try and give him texture and he looks like a weird tennis ball kind of He does. Oh, my God. You're right. He looks like a brown dog-shaped tennis ball. And it's just not what the, I mean, like, the other one was kind of ugly. Scooby-Doo is always kind of ugly. He had gangly like a fucking, an Adam's apple, like a fucking, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's amazing because we're still not there yet because I saw Call the Wild and that dog also obviously looks fake as shit. And it's just like, can we stop with the dogs? Get a real dog. We all love dogs. Everybody loves dog. Have a dog in a movie and don't kill it. Put a cartoon in this. You know, make it fucking Roger Rabbit. I don't give a shit. Honestly, that would be, I think, more comfortable for my eyeballs than them, like, trying, like, pushing the limit of 2001 CGI and saying, like, we're trying to make this dog as realistic as possible. Especially when, like, call the wilds a little different because that's supposed to be a real dog.
Starting point is 00:25:30 This is a cartoon dog. Oh, I know of this dog was it looks like a cartoon. Just make it look like a cartoon. But the style looked bad is the problem. I'm sorry, I'll cut you off, Chris. No, it's the whole, every creature, I mean, Scooby-Doo and the rabbit-lizzard things. It's all like a fucking leisure Larry's like Halloween special. Who's going to whip it out on this special?
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's just disgusting. Yes, that fucker. This was a game from the 1990s. That's your grandparents. It was like a jack-off game. Pretty much. It was like the early stages of J-O-I videos. I'm remembering that right, right?
Starting point is 00:26:08 It was like a horny game. Exactly. Leisure suit, Larry crawled so J.O. I could walk. Like he was always getting in like sexy situations. Exactly. Very boobtacular images and stuff. There's ways to like, you know, play the game to get girls to undress or whatever or increase the sexuality of a situation, which would enable you to win the game, I believe. if all the illustrated
Starting point is 00:26:32 pornography and heavy metal was too self-serious for you, this is where you went. Well, absolutely. I can't jerk off to that stuff. Guys, we're going to get together. We're going to play leaders just do Larry on Twitch. And our audience will last five seconds. I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Hey, someone better at technology than us out there right into the mailbag and tell us how to do that. I'll fucking stream that shit. They do break up. And it is. And again, again, this is the very like, we're hanging ahead on all of the tropes of the show where, I mean, although Fred being Gloryhug is a new thing, to me anyway, where he's like, I'd never seen this. I think a pub named Scooby-Doo had a little bit of that. He was a little bit overzealous,
Starting point is 00:27:15 but not to this degree. The thing is, like, 9-11 just happened, and we needed alpha males in the movies so that people will sign up to go to war. That's absolutely right. No, you're right. It's that thing of like, I'm a doof, but I'm You know what I mean? But I have to be right at every turn, yada, yada, yada. Yeah. Thankfully, unlike the United States of America, Fred learns a lesson at the end of this movie.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, the trouble really starts when the Pam Anderson cameo comes in. That's when that's when I'm like, what time is it? Yes. Where are we? And, you know, she's looking worse for wear in this one, too. Well, what is the timetable here as far as VIP? Oh, VIP. Good question.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I got to look at Pam Anderson here on the old IMDB. I forgot VIP. That was a TV show like Alias or something. It was like an alias slash Charlie's Angels kind of thing. But it was like totally syndicated. We're far away from Barb wire. I know that much. That was 96. Is that is where, when's the Tommy Lee sex tape? Early odds. Here we are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Is that a VIP. VIP, 1995, 1998 to 2002. So that's like. So this is the ending of that basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she is basically like, the gag is the old man that they unmask as the ghost is also like Pam Anderson's stalker, which is all, I guess, it's bad and whatever, but it does not understand, justify or explain in any way. Why she's driving the mystery mobile?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, I mean, because you got to, it's a celebrity and we love celebrity culture. It's 2002-ish. We fucking love that shit. Another massive offender of that, by the way, sorry to cut you off, Eric, is those fucking Austin Powers movies. Yeah. The second of which was out at this point. Well, I was just going to point out that the old Scooby-Doo cartoon did that with, like, the Harlem Globe Trotters, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:29:05 So I guess there's precedents. Yeah, no, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. I don't know. And that's definitely what Sugar Ray is doing later, which we'll get to. Oh, my fucking Sugar Ray. Are you fucking kidding me? I forgot already. It hasn't even been 24 hours since I've watched this.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They break up because Fred takes all the glory. Velma had the great idea. And I want to stop you real quick there. There are teen beat magazines with Freddie on them that he is signing at this. Oh. Well, that's the other weird part of this. You know, I wrote in my notes, they're famous question mark. Yes, that's a great.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Because again, celebrity culture, man. Oh, man, don't you want to be a celebrity? Yeah, yeah. It's just dumb in this. Everything's that new, that Lifestyles of the Richem and the Famous song by Was that Good Charlotte? That was. Yep. Dude, that is one of the worst songs you'll ever hear.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I mean, you complain about this teen beat thing, but like, honestly, it was kind of sweet that he signed Dylan Baker's copy. Could you make it out to a really big fan? Let me tell you about the dreams I have. Oh, God. You won't last five pages. Yeah, so they break up. Everybody quits. They go their separate ways, obviously, except Shagging and Scooby.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Scooby is his ward. And yeah, I'm sorry, but Prince Jr. is reading his lines and Geller is just doing her thing, which I mean, I think she's pretty close to good in this, but it's just sort of. I will say, I don't think she's as bad as he is. There's even a moment in the movie, though, where it's when she's fighting that fucking luchador, I believe. She definitely has a line that's straight up delivered like she's Buffy Summers. Yeah, there's no difference between the two characters. I mean, like she's a little ditsier, Velma is, but that's it. well that's good to know because i never watched buffy now i don't have to i mean the characters also just written terribly as compared to the other characters yeah like all the other ones have something specific about them that they're exploring in some little way daffy really doesn't no but she's trying to but it's written so fucking poorly because like they're they're going off of the the format of the cartoon where it's like you know phelma's the brain uh you know who always like would come up with the plans shaggy and scooby are doing their thing
Starting point is 00:31:25 Fred is like the muscle slash like handsomy dude and Daphne gets kidnapped. And in this movie, they're trying to subvert that and like bring it into the 21st century by having her be like, I was taking kung fu lessons this whole time we broke up guys and now I can defend myself. And it's like, it's so like overwritten and then like clunkily executed in this movie that it like the whole effort is just totally washed out. Yeah, no, for sure. And I mean, and Velma is obviously, I mean, the weird thing about Velma, I mean, like, I think Linda Carleone is very good in this but there is this thing
Starting point is 00:31:58 there is this thing where like she's as fat as Velma could be not that Velma was ever like fat but she was always a full figured gal you know what I mean and they never I just watched that episode last night I love that episode I didn't expect to see Velma in a mini
Starting point is 00:32:13 skirt where I could see you know the curvature of her inner thigh which you can in this movie oh wait till you see the next one where she's in latex Chris did you watch the next one already with this? I did when I watched this one for the first time.
Starting point is 00:32:29 So last year? Yeah. But she's like small and mousy and like, you know, whatever. But this is like she's just like this. And again, like she turns into this bombshell by the end of the movie and it's like, I don't know. First of all, I'm sorry, it's Linda Cardalini that's hard to cover up in the first place. Well, of course. Let me just put that out there.
Starting point is 00:32:45 But that's what I mean. You could have hired a different actress possibly, you know? Yeah, sure. Just to get some. I mean, like, is the point of at least Velma, you know, growing up, it's like, not everybody It looks like Daphne. Not everybody is Daphne kind of a thing. You're included. Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:01 you got Shaggy, dude. Yeah, no, you're right. It should be enormously fat. I would love it if it was a big fat shaggy. Because he's eating all the time. I mean, it sends a bad message. Like, I want to eat a fucking six stories high sandwich, but I look like me. I do
Starting point is 00:33:16 love that in this movie, they took the note from Casey Kasem's original request back in the 70s. And in this movie, just like when Kasem was voicing him, Shaggy's a vegetarian. Yes, which is kind of the next scene, which is a, this is a funny joke, it's an adult swim joke through and through it.
Starting point is 00:33:32 There's a couple of these here where they cut, everybody breaks up and like, what's everybody doing a year later? And we cut to the mystery machine and smokes coming out of it and reggae is playing and you're like, uh-oh, are they? No, they're smoking meat. Or smoking food. Yeah, oh yeah. You cannot
Starting point is 00:33:48 have that, you know, you can't have that scene without the musical cue of musical views past the duchy that's the song that's playing so you know immediately what the joke is which they didn't like the first cut when they use Cypress Hills I want to get high
Starting point is 00:34:04 I mean this movie introduces scooby snacks as a thing and it's just actual dog food that even humans ingest because they're vegetarians and it's kind of like an anti vegetarian joke in a way that it's just
Starting point is 00:34:20 like oh their food is like trash and no one's actually getting high even though there's so many allusions to it. I mean, they should be getting high. And apparently in Gunn's original script, it was straight up like, we're acknowledging marijuana, we're saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:36 weed, like the smoking pot, like the whole thing. But I don't even mind this joke. It's a fun... The home movie was this where it's like, oh, here's this sort of adult sort of idea about how adults view the show now, but we can still frame it for kids
Starting point is 00:34:50 so they like it. I'm okay with it. but yeah but so much of this movie is like spike tv guys for guy movies here's your tits yeah it's melba but here's her tits i do love also that when we cut to the inside of the trailer and like you see what they're doing in the van you see what they're doing scooby is wearing a bandan on his head he looks exactly like christopher maloney and wet hot american summer and i don't know if that's supposed to be a joke because he's like chris maloney was the cook in that movie and so like Scooby is the one who's like cooking the food
Starting point is 00:35:21 and I was like, are they making a wet hot joke with that? I mean, either way, it's fucking hilarious. He looks exactly like Chris Maloney. I love it. I think a lot of chefs do that for the heat. I'm sure. Yeah. It just reminded me of Maloney instantly. But yeah, oh, he also, there is a great, you see, Shaggy.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Like, I think you hear him say it before you see what they're doing. He goes, talk about toasted, which is also great. And I love, also, and here's when I wish the movie was, and it's not because you got two stoners living on a beach, you know, in California, living in their van, solving mysteries, like some 1970s fucking neo-noir or some shit, you know, or like the PTA movie
Starting point is 00:36:03 or something. Right. And here's probably should be happening at the same time. I just, I wish this movie had texture and the texture is all like shiny, you know what I mean? Like that old show, like there was, you'd go into a creaky old mansion. And I mean, like, yeah, it was shitty, had a barbarian animation. But like, you felt the creeks. You know what I mean? Like, even once they get to Spooky Island, which we'll get there,
Starting point is 00:36:22 everything looks like a fucking Nickelodeon set. Yes. Yes. It definitely does, dude. It all looks like fucking Legends of the Hidden Temple and all that shit. And it's like, yeah, that polish really hurts it because they're at this. Spooky Island is like this, you know, horror themed, you know, exclusive resort where there's all this like polishingy, you know, hotel room shit. And even like the set of the castle looks like it like fake and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:49 like you're right they should just go to an actual castle like oh we all because what it happens is they all get letters this one dude comes to shaggy and scooby and he's like hey man uh here's an invitation to spooky island uh this dude email mondavarius needs you to come solve a mystery and so the four of them like all wind up at the airport together and they're going to this island and it's like i just wish it was the island from i still know what you did last summer right speaking of freddie prince i figured that's what those letters had in them I do think this movie reminds me more often than not than that horrific broken lizard movie
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh, club dread There are people out there Close friends included Who will tell you that that's a great movie And you can keep it I like the first Super Troopers movie Makes me laugh But everything else since I had a really weird thing
Starting point is 00:37:37 With the Super Troopers a few years ago Maybe like two, three years ago now We came across it on like HBO Go or something And I was like, wow, Super Troopers And Chelsea had never seen it I was like, oh, oh, oh, babe, babe, babe, you got to see this movie. And we watch Super Trip. First of all, unbutton your top button, because you're going to start laughing.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And, dude, I'm telling you, I watched the movie, and it was probably like the fucking 9,000th time I've seen that movie. But the first time in probably, like, 14 years, I didn't laugh once. Oh, really? I was like, I think the bulb that I had for this movie inside of me, like, burned out. that's very fair and it was just kind of like nope i'm done i showed my wife beer fest and she thought that was very funny beer fest is actually yeah beer fest is number two for me i still think it holds up kind of yes i thought it was okay when i saw it in the theaters i haven't seen it since it reminds me though has anyone watched that netflix show netflix show dude there's some netflix show where it's like
Starting point is 00:38:35 it's a comedy where like two guys are running a fucking brewery or something and it looks like fucking broken lizard reject shit oh i i can't recall the name of it but i I was just watching it, and I'm like, how is there not a we hate movies television show at this point? Yeah, that's what I was about to say. You weren't fucking broken lizard dog shit or runoff or whatever. Call us up. We're right here. We've been here for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:39:00 We all hate movies at gmail.com. Right in Netflix. Come on. Oh, guys. No, guys. It's the fractured snake show. Fractured snake. By the way, or getting back to the movie.
Starting point is 00:39:10 No, you first of all, Chris, it cannot be fractured. Oh, we're a fractured snake. We're doing right wing comedy for right winners. You will not tread on us. Unless you're going to tread on a banana peel and then you'll slip on it. Conservative comedy. Conservative comedy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Fucking total oxymoron there. Cabin, what were you saying? I was just saying that it should be called fractured snake. Before it went all alt-right. Was it Eric that was saying something? Yes, I was saying something. I was about to make a brilliant opportunity. observation about the film we're here to
Starting point is 00:39:48 talk about today. Yeah. Which is Scooby-Doo from the year 2002. Who directed it? It was a Rajah Gossel. Okay, cool. Let's just start the episode over. So, they're at the airport. They're all getting together. Velma mentions
Starting point is 00:40:03 that she was designing hydro-powered missile defense systems for NASA. So she's an imperialist pig. Yeah, yeah. Totally, dude. She's working for fucking Space Force. Oh, you guys were really excited. You're working on your book, huh? Well, I'm finding new ways
Starting point is 00:40:18 to track and murder Muslims. Jinkies. Jinkies, it's a drone strike on a wedding. Jankies, I programmed an ethnicity detector for NASA. They said the Star Wars system would never work. I fixed it. Remember
Starting point is 00:40:38 Kazakhstan? Yeah, neither do I. Jinkies. Oh, yeah. Thank you, Eric. That is such a weird throwaway line in this movie that they've never fucking explore ever again. Well, this is the idea that you should be using your genius
Starting point is 00:40:54 to help propel the weapons of war of the United States. It's 2002. It's such an extreme, like, okay, you're using your genius for one of two things in your life, I guess, Velma, solving quaint mysteries or designing weapons of war. Can I say those quaint mysteries?
Starting point is 00:41:10 You're filling up the jails. Good job, Velma. Totally. You're filling up the jails with a bunch of fucking octogenarian costume enthusiast. That was not the ally we thought she was. I want that article written. Like they did about Pennywise the clown.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh man. Did he get fucking slandered? Oh yeah. He kills gay people in the second movie. Yeah. Did you see that yet? No, I haven't found the seven hours. It too. It starts with fucking Pennywise the clown committing hate crimes for some unknown reason. Against Xavier
Starting point is 00:41:42 Dolan? Oh, what? Xavier Dolan's in that movie? He's the guy who gets killed. Maybe he was hiding from that fucking horrendous movie he directed with John Snow. You see that shit? He was hiding from the fucking creditors. What movie is this?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh God. It's called the life and death of fucking somebody. I saw it in Toronto. It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Jinkies. I'm using your search history to find the nearest mosque. Jinkies. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Us that fractured snake are proud to present this hilarious little skid about opening a mosque in Manhattan? Are you kidding me, folks? What you're doing? Here it is. What if we put missiles in space? I just, I wanted to find that fucking
Starting point is 00:42:32 movie because it's just so bad. A big question, though, when they're in the whole airport scene still, and so they're talking about what they've been doing since they all broke up and whatever. And Daphne, you know, no one believes her when she says that she's been training
Starting point is 00:42:48 in martial arts or whatever. Does Sir Michelle give them all the finger? Right there? Did I see that right? No? Yeah, I didn't. I, counselor, I cannot recall. Gotcha. I thought I saw some bird flippage there really quickly. By the way, the name of that piece of shit movie is the death and
Starting point is 00:43:04 life of John F. Donovan. It's Kit Harrington, Natalie Portman, that fucking Jacob Tremblay, Susan Sarandon, Kathy Bates. It's trash. It's a total trash. Jesus shit, Jacob Tremblay. Disgusting shit boy, Jacob Tremblay.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You know what? I'm not a fan of Jacob Tremblay, although I think I really enjoy, for that reason, I really enjoy Dr. Sleep, and I'll say no more. Oh, my God, Steve. It is actually one of the funniest moments in cinema. Supposedly, this movie was released in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:43:40 in December 13th of last year, but obviously not a lot of places. It's been a year since. Game of Thrones ended and I cannot imagine a circumstance in which I would voluntarily watch Kid Harrington. I just, I can't imagine it. I cannot imagine it. Check out Pompeii, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Oh, well, actually, yeah, for this show, probably. I do, I do look, but here's the thing. Certain trappings in this movie I'm a sucker for, we're getting the gang back together. Come on. Yep. What have we been doing for a year? I'm into that sort of thing as well. I do like it. Apparently, though, there were a bunch of deleted scenes where you see what they were actually
Starting point is 00:44:15 doing. And it's like, I'm sorry, this movie's fucking 89 minutes. Tack on another three and tell me. Just start here. Just start here and they're old and they hate each other. It's been 10 years or something. At least. Like maybe the start was
Starting point is 00:44:31 fucking 1980 and now it's 2002. Or here's what it is. Smoked. Here's what it is. Eric. Guaranteed. We start the movie. It's a slow mo pseudo animated musical montage led by a Bob Dylan's song. And it shows you like the mystery ink gang over the years. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You know, and then like you get the whole story during the opening credits, much like that Zach Snyder Watchman movie is what I'm referencing. Come gather around children wherever you roam. You roam to me like a Scooby to a bone. Whoa, I shot Ray of Craig. I'm Scooby Doo. Rerow, it's the Ray of pigs. I will say, speaking of what Phelma's been doing, a flashback, it's her in a CIA lunchroom. James Gendell Feeney shows up. I hear you like to hunt terrorists. You've got quite a flare for it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Well, Gigi's, I sure do. You also appear to have a flare for orange dresses. Listen, that covertly, you can't wear orange quite as much. You know what they could do? They could do like the big chill, you know? Scooby is dead because he's a dog. Doesn't live as long. Or Scooby killed himself.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, he's the Kevin Costner of the group. It's him putting on his collar at the beginning. And then he just all get together for the weekend. And they're like, oh, damn. It would actually make sense because you could have Shaggy be the William Hurt character. And he rolls up to the chapel where the service has already started. And he's got like a bunch of fucking grass and pills.
Starting point is 00:46:14 in the car and stuff and he's like intoxicated at the service. Yeah, by that. It would play. This is how Scoob would want me to mourn. His eyes are bloodshot. He's also trying to fuck Meg Tilly at the exact same time. Oh man, I didn't even think about it. Jeff Goldblum would be a great shaggy.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Would he? I think he would. I think he's got the build for it. I think he can get himself in that zone. I don't think he could do that voice or the physicality at all. I believe in him. He must be high if he's doing that so much. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Oh, he never does that. So, and then Shaggy is the last to show up and they're like, where Scooby? The dumbest joke of the movie is Scooby is dressed up like a woman, like an old lady in a sundress. In the year of Our Lord 2002, you try and get a dog on a plane with a fucking dress on. You are spending a couple of days in solitary. Absolutely. And here's the like less annoying, funnier version of this is Shaggy has some throwaway line about like,
Starting point is 00:47:13 oh yeah they don't because he does say like they don't let dogs this big on the actual plane and so he has to say something like so he's just down in the luggage carrier in a box or whatever and then you cut down and the joke is he's getting immaculate service it's like first class dog service to scooby-doo and they have like a bad economy flight or something instead of just dressing him up like a woman like i get it like you're making a cartoon come to life but this felt more cartoonish than the actual cartoon did all that's mid- thing is like some dude being enamored with Scooby like, oh, my dumb. That's he needs a, it's got to be a fucking some like it hot old man. He's horny for him and he's like, well, I've got to tell you Romer wrong. And the guy goes,
Starting point is 00:47:58 eh, nobody's perfect. And then he fucks that dog. Yes, mile high club with Scooby do. Oh, oh, right? He goes to the bathroom and the guy's like, you've been looking at me this whole flight. He's like, Ro, I haven't. Oh my God. Scooby-Doo with those bedroom eyes, you dug.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, but it's him and Shaggy. And this is a double take. She has blonde hair. And this movie, she's much younger than I remember her being. I mean, I just didn't know she was acting at this point. Isla Fisher. And I was like, holy shit, that's Isla Fisher. And also, holy shit, she's not wearing any clothes.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, it's crazy. She's dressed like fucking Daisy Duke on this plane. And it's weird because I was like, is that Isla Fisher in a movie that came out three years before wedding crashes? Well, that's weird. Yeah, I assume she was just born on the set of wedding crashes and came to life immediately birthed.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I mean, she was great in the beach bum and by the way, I don't know if we said it on those episodes, but that is the best pirate of the Caribbean movie. Yet you're not wrong, dude. It definitely is. You could have made this movie that movie. That's the adult Scooby-Doo, by the way.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You're right. Matthew McCona here is Shaggy. He pretty much is like, if Shaggy really got in deep with Miami weed dealers. Instead of that, oh man, Zach Ephron, a great Fred. Oh, that's, yeah, because he's big and hulking is what I want in my Fred. Is he big? Well, he's got, he's at least like, he's fitter. Yeah, that's true. Then Freddie Prince Jr. He's not a big dude. Freddie Prince Jr. was just like a skinny dude
Starting point is 00:49:36 that somehow ended up in movies because of my day, but also Eric, I don't know how much clout is. long since dead father had to do with his fucking acting career. Let me tell you, it didn't fucking hurt. I will say in the late 90s, early aughts, you're talking boy bands, we liked dudes that weighed 141 pounds soaking wet. Yep, yep. He fit
Starting point is 00:49:57 that bill exactly. Oh, Illa Fisher, by the way, her name is Mary Jane. Oh, yeah, another classic joke. She introduces the Scooby snacks being dog food she likes to eat because she's a vegetarian and that's what vegetarians eat and it's just dog food and it's not
Starting point is 00:50:14 apparently it's not like weed anything it's not edibles no it's just dog food I didn't read it so much as a commentary on vegetarianism one way or another I just read it as like they're both stoners and they
Starting point is 00:50:30 get the munchies for weird things maybe that was just me I buy that I mean there's other ways to read it you're eating fucking eggplant and chocolate sauce a couple minutes before yeah you know what man You might as well go eat some dog food. Give me pure Alpo at that point.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'll eat it out of the fucking bowl. Also, oh man, I'd fucking pay a lot of money to see that. There is another thing that it was driving me crazy, man. You know, the flight that they are on to Monster Island, it is through like Monster Air. It's all, or Spooky Island, it's spooky air, excuse me. And so like the flight is like everyone is going to Spooky Island and everybody is excited to do so
Starting point is 00:51:11 and we're being crazy on a flight no thank you. No thank you ladies and gentlemen. Where's the fucking air marshal for this? We learned it's like a tour it's like a spring break kind of destination kind of a situation. Well it's a airline specifically for
Starting point is 00:51:27 this island. So Rowan Atkinson not only has this insane island that would put everybody out of business. Even fucking Richard Branson couldn't fucking afford this thing. And then on top of it, an entire airline to get you there. I think he is supposed to be kind of
Starting point is 00:51:43 I would not want to appear in those flight logs. I'll tell you that. I think he's supposed to kind of be like a Richard Branson-esque. Like, yeah, Richard Branson. Hey, are we going to Epstein? Hey, are we going to Epstein's Island or spooky island or the same island? I'm unsure.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Oh, man, either way, I'm going to be terrified. Oh, man, Space is on this one. That dude's always hogging the good sea. Jinkies, this is a mystery I better not solve. I don't want to die. I'm going to eat an enormous sandwich. Oh, man, that ghost looks fake as fuck. So they fucking land.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Oh, no, it's the ghost of Vince Foster. You got. That's right, folks. Fractured snake comedy. You got Stephen Hawking here, man. That's fucked up. up. Oh, no. Was he on those flight logs? Really? There are pictures, too. So they land on Spooky Island. They're greeted almost immediately by Rowan Atkinson. He's like in a little suit thing,
Starting point is 00:52:53 like welcoming people with a scary voice kind of a thing. And then he pops out and introduces himself. I grew up. Shadowing by the way. Foreshadowing the ending. I grew up. I grew up with Mr. Bean. And for the life of me, every time Rowan Atkinson pops up in. anything, I perk up a little bit. And this is the same situation here. And he's always delightful. And he's uniformly good, actually. Like, you know, like he always gets the project he's in, which is usually very bad and stupid, and just leans into it.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I remember one of the biggest failures at the box office while I was working at the multiplex was Johnny English, that movie. Yeah. I remember specifically, like, the opening weekend of that movie at our multiplex. there was like no one in the theater for that movie like not a soul that's one of those movies for a while we were like any movie that does really well in the UK must do well here
Starting point is 00:53:50 isn't there like fucking like four of them now yeah there's like three or four of those movies well I knew it was Johnny English reborn I think was one they made more than that there's at least three three Johnny English movies what are we doing well I think I think they're wisely fucking keeping them over there
Starting point is 00:54:08 Oh, okay. Speaking of Pluto TV, there's a new British network on there. Oh, Johnny English Channel? Yes. And I watched two episodes of Mr. Bean on there the other day, and it was beyond delightful. Oh, is that right? Yeah, it was a lot of fun. He's nice.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He, like, went to the buffet, and he was trying to, like, you know, get up on a guy for no reason by, like, grabbing all the same food but more of it. I was like, this is relatable. I'm laughing already. Wow. Holy shit. So, yeah, you weren't kidding. Johnny English strikes again in 2018. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Wow. For fucking British people. Hey, Chris, could you just check in the back there? Is there anybody out there that wants Johnny English strikes again? Hey, boss. Got Johnny English. You want to check that? No.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Okay, nothing. Nothing. Nothing, guys. Sorry. No, nobody wants. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 It's UK bust, man. Johnny English reborn 2011. Eap. So yeah, he's, he's, uh, what's something Mondavarius. He's the guy that runs the, um, the island. He owns it. He brought them all there because some things have been happening where, and you see this weird exchange where like this, and it's, it's something that gets really dropped because nobody knows what to do with it, which is like, these people are like getting, uh, these monsters are trying to act like kids. So they sound like idiots, like MTV morons. Like, yo dog, why are you stepping in my grill, son? and, like, that's hilarious because it's 2001. I love the, uh, the punk guy right here that gets off the plane with them. It's a dude with, like, Liberty Spikes. And he's going up to some woman who could have just been on like MTV Beach House.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And he's like, hey, Carol, Carol, how was the island? It's me, Brad. And this woman, like, fucking hip tosses this guy. Yeah, I had no idea what was happening. Well, that's how you're supposed, because, well, because Rowan Atkins and this whole thing is like, look, you guys just got off the plane. and you saw all the people you were with are very excited to come to Spooky Island but look at the lineup of people getting ready
Starting point is 00:56:12 to leave look how weird they look and they're all kind of like you know not excited zombies they could just be hung over from Spooky Island three nights in Spooky Island I am wearing sunglasses on that plane and a large hooded switch and Bill Belichick in the fourth fucking quarter
Starting point is 00:56:28 they're all being silent and courteous there's something wrong there's just something wrong with this they're not acting like fucking loud obnoxious college kids this whole time. I will say, oh, sorry, one time for a bachelor party, it was like 27, we went to Montreal, and I was
Starting point is 00:56:43 very poor, so me and a couple buddies's like, we'll take the train up. And we did, and it's like a 14-hour train or like a 12-hour train ride from New York to Montreal. We had a blast on the way back. What my God was at the worst fucking experience of my life going back.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You know what I mean? And everyone's just like not in the mood. We were all fucking mad at each other for various reasons. It's just because that's those things, dude, like when the trip is over, sometimes it's like, okay, we're not going to talk from now all the way until like two weeks after we've gotten home. We need fucking friend quarantine. Steve, I've heard the rest of the story. There was a good reason and it was singular. Some things are not made for the year, my friend.
Starting point is 00:57:27 That's true. Very true. I mean, so just to give you an idea here, spooky island, the aesthetic is our real monsters. It's monkey bone. Oh, dude. You're right. We really should cross reference the production designers
Starting point is 00:57:43 of this film and the motion picture monkey bone. It's exactly what Chris described, but everything's covered in like a polyurethane like coating. Everything's like slick looking. It's disgusting. It looks like if you were making
Starting point is 00:57:58 Scooby-Doo the ride or Scooby-Doo the fucking stage show at Disney World. You know what I mean? totally it looks like universal studios it looks like totally like yes everything is like nothing looks real or lived in at all and i guess we're going for sort of but like nothing ever did so i guess it works because their outfits don't look real or lived in there sure the fucking mystery van we see for only a half a second in this that man should be on the plane with them that's you're totally right eric oh you're totally right also there's your fucking answer to avoid the dumb a dog dressed up
Starting point is 00:58:32 like an old lady joke. Yeah. It's like we had to put the van in the cargo hold and there's Scooby fucking munching on snacks in the van during the flight. Or they're all no fucking, you know, a commuter boat kind of a situation, you know, there's a horse that gets scared and jumps off the side and commits suicide. Yeah, go more Zucker with this. Like, oh, that's true. It should venture towards parody. Hey, Raggy, I just watched a video tape, but I have seven days to rev. jingies i think this woman used to run a horse for oh my god oh my god oh my god you guys i have just pulled
Starting point is 00:59:11 up production designer bill bows who did this movie who the year before did monkey bone oh shit dude oh my god he also did the sequel to this movie he did fantastic four oh and i think he's got some sort of working relationship with rajah because beverly hills chihuahua and that first smurfs movie the second smurfs movie Yep. Sinister two. Did my man, Rajah, do monkey bone? No, that was Henry Selleck.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Okay, okay. Oh, that's right. That was his live action director. Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah. I like the idea of somebody being like, ah, all right, big chop and cigar. Oh, monkey, you know what's terrible? That monkey bone.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Hire someone to make this next movie look like monkey bone. I mean, this is a strain of post-Burt in movies. Yes. The main aesthetic inspiration is the music videos of the band Aqua. I mean, you're right, Chris. I mean, Tim Burton was a force and it influenced future cinema. Sort of like in the 90s,
Starting point is 01:00:10 everything was like a Tarantino clone. Yes, for sure. And Chris Cabin, I just want to confirm his whole thing here is not without evidence to back it up because this production designer, Bill Bowes, who worked on this movie, also worked on the art department,
Starting point is 01:00:26 in the art department for at least Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow and Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes. I am. So what was his name again? Bill Bowes. Baggins? I was waiting for it.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Bill Bowes Baggins. They all break up here. They're like, oh, we're all going to solve. Like, everyone's like, I'm going to solve the mystery by myself and Shaggy. And it's kind of fun. Like, Shaggy is like the dopey. And again, like, we're not, like, Matthew Lowe's really good in this movie, so there's not much to say. But, like, he is doing this thing.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like, oh, guys, we're all back together. It's good. I keep feeling bad for this character. Like, I have an emotional investment in Shaggy. I feel the same way. And I was like, stop doing that, you idiot. Exactly. He's the only one that seems halfway human out of the cast. And Matthew Litter is giving a shit.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Exactly. And the thing that's unfortunate is Velma has the least screen time out of all of them, I feel. Yeah. And so you don't get to see. It's all the waterboarding she's doing off screen. Yes, absolutely. She was working two jobs during this movie. Yeah, her and Jason Clark had a long relationship.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Jeekees, there's an asset on Spooky Island. I got to take care of. See you later. Jason Clark. Jason Clark's forehead. Jason Clark's lower head. Yeah. Mark two class ran up with a fucking list of people
Starting point is 01:01:43 they need to grab next. But yeah, you have this like brief montage of them like breaking off to like each interview people kind of a thing. I do love the gag of Velma interviewing a guy. It's like a dude in a weird like huge skull mask. And she's like, any weirdos running around? Yeah, it's funny. I also, we get
Starting point is 01:02:04 some Juana man in this movie. Miguel A. Nunez Jr., of course. We know him best as the dude gets murdered in the toilet in that Friday of the 13th movie. Ooh, baby, hey, baby. Hey, baby. Hey, yeah, a demon was his name, right, Chris? Yeah, oh yeah. Love this guy. But he's playing the black guy, so he's a voodoo doctor. Oh, boy, yeah. That's something. A voodoo doctor
Starting point is 01:02:32 Daphne shows up And this is kind of a fun Kind of who's on first gag Where he's like Don't go to that spooky castle And she's like Oh so you don't want me to go to that spooky castle Because you want me to go to that spooky castle
Starting point is 01:02:42 Laity yada yada yada yada and it's I mean again it's I do think that Sam Michelle Geller is good at comedy But there's no character here Yeah No and I think you know I mean obviously I don't know Anyone's approach to a performance
Starting point is 01:02:56 But I feel like When you're playing The problem that you can have sometimes when an actor is playing a, like, pre-developed property such as this. It's like, there's that weird thing of, like, well, everybody knows what this is supposed to be, you know? And it sort of feels like that's like, oh, yeah, everybody's just going to remember that other character,
Starting point is 01:03:17 you know, from the cartoon. And I don't have to do as much legwork because they can use their imagination or something. So I don't have to work. And I'm not saying that that's what Sarah Michelle Geller did. I'm just saying it feels like, like that, kind of. Like, I'll let the cartoon do all the heavy lifting. Sure. Yeah, it's
Starting point is 01:03:34 like, when you play Hitler, you're like, the mustache is doing a lot of lifting here, folks. Just go with it. Any accent. Eric Siska publicly calls Bruno Gunz a fucking coward on we hate movies. Bruno Gans is amazing in that movie. That was a good movie. That dude
Starting point is 01:03:50 cared. That dude cared and fucking how's the jackbill? Oh, he's great. And he's great to everything. Bruno Gans was great. So, yeah, she goes to the spooky castle. We all wind up going to the spooky castle. And this is like, again, like we're really doing Scooby-Doo, right? We're full on
Starting point is 01:04:06 in a spooky castle. I think there's the very famous bit from the show where it's Daphne. I think this happened more again in a pup named Scooby-Doo, which I'm fucking oh man, this show's really smart. Oh shit, no one's talking to me in my own home, but this show's really smart.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Hey guys, come look at the genius. Steve, are you running a pup named Scooby do Reddit. I will be. You've been mentioning it a lot. What's this about? It's a really smart.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Are you talking about the Shaggy line right here? It's the gag wherein they don't want to Scooby and Shaggy do not want to go into the castle. But she's like, would you do it for a Scooby snack? And like that's kind of the gag. Sure. Yes. Well, I do, because
Starting point is 01:04:54 this is also where Shaggy's like, no, I'm not going into that haunted castle. Because every time you go into a haunted castle, there's a painting that looks at you and a suitor armor that follows you when you're not looking. And that's like a successful referencing the cartoon to me.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah, for sure. I did appreciate that line. And Scooby falls for the Scooby Snacks. He has to hear the line where she's like, well, you could stay out here alone in the dark or whatever. Yeah, and he gets...
Starting point is 01:05:18 Which is another. That's a... Shaggy has been tricked like that before. Hey, man, I can't go inside of a castle because then you go in there. Everyone's looking at you, man. Everyone's following. me around watching my every
Starting point is 01:05:32 move man I can't go in there oh wait is it a meth castle I'll go in there now oh man that painting's got ice it's following me around the room oh wait it's actually got it's real eyes because it's a Scooby Doon it's a monster or a person
Starting point is 01:05:49 Would you do it for an oxy snack? Yeah I would Oh man Yeah finally a snack to ease the pain, man. Yeah, that's right on. Fractured snake. We get paid in oxycott. Rang for retinal.
Starting point is 01:06:10 So when they go in, of course, there's like a big spooky noise, like right at the beginning and this was from the trailer. Boy, this does not hold up. Is they have to like animate Matthew Liller jumping into a cartoon's arms right here. Yeah. Fuck this looks. It's like
Starting point is 01:06:25 stuttery and like glitchy and shit. Isn't the point to have a dog so that it's a fearless killer in the face of death, you know? Not my dog, dude. They should be training Scooby to sick balls. Oh, yeah, like a little once upon time in Hollywood dog. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I mean, this dog should be ripping flesh with those teeth. Like Shaggy should just be like, hey, Scoob! Then he fucking goes and it's biting some monster dick. Did I help you? Sam Fuller's Scooby-Doo would be something. Oh, yeah, like white dog. Oh, fuck. That was Sam Fuller's Scooby-Doo.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I thought you're talking about Sam Wanamaker because you're talking about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It would be there. It would be his. All right, guys, you're scary, sexy stone, Rosencrantz and Gildenstern.
Starting point is 01:07:20 That would be pretty great. Another positive addition to this movie. Shaggy has a Zapata mustache. I wish. it would be awesome if he just had a mustache for no reason in this movie we're going through everybody winds up at the same castle obviously yeah well we see when we're walking around the castle here once everybody's firmly inside and you know they're like okay well let's spread out and find clues and
Starting point is 01:07:46 everything uh we see there's like a nefarious little person behind the scenes like doing like flipping all the switches and watching them and stuff like that and uh the guy basically like activates this It's a haunted house, like on the... It's kind of weird because maybe it was because I had a few scooby snacks on my own watching this movie. I forgot that they were, like, at an amusement park. And so I was like, oh, so now, how did they get to this haunted castle? There was like a split, like, maybe two to three minutes where I was confused by this movie.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm not imagining you... Dog food, dude. Oh, yeah, dude. Chow and down hard. I just imagine you and Marty on the couch. It's 4 o'clock in the morning. And you just look over. You're watching, like, the seventh hour of Pluto TV, American...
Starting point is 01:08:30 gladiators and she just looked to go to bed. Yeah, it's minus the dialogue. That's kind of my every night of quarantine. I just think you've lost your mind at this point is with you. Oh, oh sure. Well, then that's definitely verbatim what happened. There are so many nights though where I will be watching shit and she'll look and be like, you asshole
Starting point is 01:08:50 and she'll just go to bed. This castle looks like shit by the way. It does. It does. It doesn't. Wait, can we just acknowledged for a second that Eric said the castle looked bad and then said more of a cancel I wanted to acknowledge it
Starting point is 01:09:09 because we were going right past it and when you spot gold on the side of the road dude you got to pull over and point at it thank you I mean we could use that on fractured snake so a lot of funny stuff happens it becomes increasingly more dangerous this is the farting scene that's super important right
Starting point is 01:09:27 this fucking movie man I cannot believe a dog and a human fart off happens I guess I can't believe it they find like a sound stage or something and just use it as an opportunity to stop the movie dead so everybody can pretend to shit their pants for 10 minutes and the Foley work here is a little sloppy
Starting point is 01:09:49 I'll tell you what because you want mostly dry blasts going on here first of all we got a pro talking and what you really want you want like I said dry dry blasts but instead stop saying dry blast
Starting point is 01:10:03 please and then but you get a lot of shit in your pants wet shit noise is going on it's super wet and dude it's like mud puddles getting stomped on and I do like the dry blast thing
Starting point is 01:10:17 like mountain dew dry blast and also dog farts are smelt not heard you're sitting in a room because they don't have fucking butt cheeks it's just the exposed asshole you're like what the fuck did you oh man what have we gave a dog butt cheeks how and why
Starting point is 01:10:36 I guess you like have to surgically add flesh you wondered so much if you could you didn't think about if you should oh no I've definitely thought about whether or not we should give a dog surgically against butt cheeks it's an entire park full of dogs with asses like human asses on dogs Welcome to
Starting point is 01:10:53 Bork Rassic Park That sucked And it's worse than anything Eric's ever said So you know what guys Everything I say is good That's what I keep hearing There's one thing though Before the farting that we have to mention
Starting point is 01:11:11 Is when the guy turns on The Haunted House Like all the little sets come to life and shit And what are with these fucking wall vaginas with tongues that Shag and Scooby get stuck on? What are we doing with that? It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I mean, that's the thing. Do those things die when they get hit by Sunlight 2? Are they fucking the wall here? Oh, some wall fucking. I don't know about wall fucking, but like the second this whole thing turns on, there's all these like, you know, oval shaped holes that open up like,
Starting point is 01:11:46 feed me, Seymour! Oh, that makes total sense. The rabbit lizards have glory hole. Oh, yes. And that's what they're doing. Can I use those? Can I use those? Or is like a rabbit lizard going to like suck me off or what's going to happen? No, the rabbit lizard's taller.
Starting point is 01:12:04 So like it can fit there. You can't get that tall. You're not that tall. Well, I don't know. I could get a box. Okay. Maybe you get a couple phone books. But like, you see that blonde guy over there?
Starting point is 01:12:13 This is like me at a bar. You see that blonde guy over there with the mustache? Yeah, he's really handsome, right? Yeah. Well, guess what? One time he used an apple cart to fuck a wall. Yeah. it's life experience dude
Starting point is 01:12:26 you can put it out of your college application I will say the this all happens they all escape yada yada yada bull bullshit they all wind up dressing like knights to hide from the villains and I will say one of the few laughs I got out of this movie
Starting point is 01:12:44 shaggy farts in this night night costume and it sounds tinny and I'm like that's pretty funny that's when the Foley guy got like staffed to attention he got that echo right he got the sound it was beautiful honestly honestly it's surprising that this movie was
Starting point is 01:12:58 not nominated for an Academy Award for sound design you were absolutely right Chris just for that fart but here's the thing that fucking one tinny little squeaker that's way funnier than the farting marathon exactly you got to pick one like there's
Starting point is 01:13:13 you can't have a follow up fart joke man like once you're done with farting you can't go back to farting in the movie you're 100% right They should have just done the night suit. I mean, I was screaming. It was like that Simpsons where Mr. Burns goes on the Larry Rude radio show, whatever it is. It's Michael McKeon.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And he's screaming, won't somebody stop the farting? Because, like, Michael McKeon keeps pressing the button to make the fart noises. And I was like, yeah, exactly. Someone please stop the farting. I remember saying that the same thing when I was watching heavyweights. Oh, they also discovered these weird trainers. videos that starts with this woman being like welcome to america and i was like are we doing some sort of weird immigration joke with this it's 2002 wouldn't put it past it but yeah it's sort of like
Starting point is 01:14:02 that's the weird thing that gets dropped is like the idea is like these monsters are going to take over the world by posing as young sexy teens and they have to act the part kind of a thing right that's sort of something i guess that's the idea but what is the like the final plan here are Is it a world domination situation? Yeah. I think Rowan Atkinson wants to be a god. He sucks from the soul bowl. And I think that's what he wants to do.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I think he wants to rule over the world. Gotcha. He's got an airplane already. He could do it. Well, it's like the demons that are these rabbit lizards, their own soul inhabits a human body. And we saw a bunch of them, I guess, going to the, I don't know, where a name a place on Earth, America, whatever. I'm just trying to suss out the plot of this movie here
Starting point is 01:14:52 because it's like these demons live under the island and I guess they're actually real and they displace human souls that go into some type of vat of souls which you alluded to Chris. Yes, I did. And the first, we see the first rabbit lizard when they trick Scooby with the ramburgers.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yes. Oh, it's like here's a bag full of free hamburgers. This is another throwaway scene in an 86-minute movie, which should have any, but whatever. I'll eat a ramburger. You ground up a ramburger. I would 100% eat a ramburger. It's also, by the way, call back to vampires. It's a sack of ramburgers.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It is. Yeah, exactly. That's what they do in television and movies. They give you a bag of hamburgers and say, figure it the fuck out. Well, that's the thing is, it's just like everything else in movies. It's not as good in real life. You're not going to get a giant bag of hamburgers just anywhere. Like, can you imagine, like, just last Saturday, I went to a Wendy's.
Starting point is 01:15:51 We went, we did a drive-through Wendy's, we ate in the parking lot. It was fucking awesome. But the whole time I'm sitting there, I only have one spicy chicken sandwich when I could have a sack full of spicy chicken sandwiches. Well, you don't make you as many as you want, dude. You just tell them what to do. Yeah, I'll have 25, put them in a sack. Yeah, five spicy chicken sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Do not put them in a wrapper. Just dump them all naked into a sack. That's just what I want. I'll have the sack meal. Sack lunch, dude. Sack lunch indeed. Better movie than English base. It's probably not good that the sack lunch is 10 bucks, right?
Starting point is 01:16:28 They go to this bar at the end. Like they've sort of sussed out some clues, yada, yada, yada. We should say that Daphne finds the Hell Racer Cube, which is kind of odd. Oh, thank you for making that joke because I had the same fucking note, dude. It's this weird thing. And it's called the Damon Ritis, which is. whatever. It's like the McGuffin of the movie or whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:16:50 But it looks so much like the Hellraiser Cube. Right, but it's a triangle instead. We have such wonderful Scooby snacks to show you. Oh my God, what a sexy group. Guys, guys, look. I'll even take the dog. It would be awesome, dude, if they just stumbled in
Starting point is 01:17:08 and it was from Hellraiser 3 and it's like he's stuck in that fucking like sculpture or whatever. Scooby, I need you. blood to be released from the statue. Rokey. I'm telling you, the crossover potential was right there.
Starting point is 01:17:24 It's true. He is not a set a bite at all. It's actually just this old, this old amusement park owner. These are ripped off pinhead's head. Ow, you're pulling my pins. Those are real. Those are real. Those are real to hold on the mask.
Starting point is 01:17:40 He's a fake guy. They just got pinpricks all over his head, his real head. The weird, the weird tattooed guy does give off a butterball vibe Rowan Atkins' number two Oh yes, that weird guy who's bald He looks, yeah, he looks... Oh, I thought this dude was
Starting point is 01:17:55 Arnold Vosslu until like the last 10 minutes of the movie. Uh, so they go back to this bar, they're kind of sussing out clues. Uh, Velma is working on the Damon Ritis at, right at the bar. Thank you again for mentioning that. I was like, you are analyzing something that one of your friends
Starting point is 01:18:12 stole from a secret cavern underneath this resort. maybe you don't do this at the hotel bar maybe that's a thing for your room just saying velma and one uh some dude uh with this guy with a shitty goatee and the metal shirt it just comes up to he's like hey how's it gone hey why why can't she have a dude or a lady that is fucking into her yes it's not just like this repulsive nothing character well the weird to your point uh when she's we're playing around because the not the joke has always been like you know well velma's a lesbian and obviously. That's always kind of been like
Starting point is 01:18:46 the Gen X kind of post modern criticism of the show, but like they play with that a little bit here before when she's like, I'm going on a journey of self-discovery and like you kind of know what that is. You know what I mean? Oh, I miss that line. But that's weird because like she has more,
Starting point is 01:19:02 the thing I thought, because I completely forgot this movie, was I thought like it was going to be her and Fred. That's what they kind of set up in the beginning is that they're at odds. And like they made a big deal. Rasha Gosnell made this big deal about how he wanted an actual couple to play Fred and
Starting point is 01:19:18 Daphne. Yes, which makes no sense. It makes no sense. They don't, they aren't together at all. When they kiss at the end of the movie, she's like, oh, it's disgusting Fred, we're in public. The fuck is this? Who cares? It's insane that like he cast them and they have zero chemistry together.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Are they still married? Yeah, they're still happily married. I am shocked. Yeah. Well, now you've just cursed them, dude. That's the thing. the one who voices game Steal the one This is when
Starting point is 01:19:51 Oh you go Yeah Well this is when the guy is like Kind of asking her about like Mystery Ink or whatever And she decides to give a flashback From her point of view And this is
Starting point is 01:20:03 It was really weird Because we were just funny enough Listening to Pet Sounds Yesterday afternoon So the Beach Boys God only knows comes on I was like all right This is a little too much
Starting point is 01:20:13 Repo Man played a shrimp Harry Dean Stanton monologue right here But so she's telling a story About like the mystery ink gang And like how it used to be And they'd solve mysteries And oh They had another member of the team with him
Starting point is 01:20:28 And here we are with this fucking I have always hated Scrappy Do Of course yeah Scrappy Do since the fucking cartoons He's obnoxious I didn't mind them Scrappy Do is like Scooby Doo If Scooby Doo had any agency
Starting point is 01:20:41 Or characterization beyond being dumb and afraid he's he's a troublemaker so i see why cisco likes him i do uh i love this part um i always had did anyone read the trivia about uh scrappy do on i mdb absolutely not uh they approached tim curry to play mondavarius but he found out that scrappy do is and he actually is this big scooby do fan shockingly enough he was in another movie yes uh and he refused to do it because scrappy do is in it and he didn't like
Starting point is 01:21:13 Scrappy 2. Hey, I'm with you, Tim Curry. Good for you, man. I thought, you know what? The twist at the end of the movie is Scrappy Do is actually the villain. And that's where I'm like, no, that's what I thought Tim Curry is walking from. Yeah. But so like, he's causing trouble in the van. They're like, hey, dog, will you please fucking chill out? And this is where I mean, you're talking highlights of cinema here, ladies and gentlemen, fucking Sarah Michelle Geller gets a fucking golden shower from a CGI dog. I can't believe it. It's an actual, you see an actual
Starting point is 01:21:47 stream of piss hitting her in the chest and this fucking movie is just scrappy do slas fiction fucking Daphne Piss play. Yeah, that's a five second clip on Pornhub. Yep, absolutely dude. But yeah, it is, it is weird.
Starting point is 01:22:03 It is some, some like, a foliarist, or not a fully, a grip had to like spray fake piss on her while wearing a tennis ball suit, I guess. Just imagine I'm a dog's dick right now. Can you imagine that? Like, this dude, Larry or whoever is like,
Starting point is 01:22:21 I'm really sorry, Ms. Giller, I got to, all right, you're going to get pissed on now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. A huge Buffy fan. I think Hush is an amazing episode. This is going to be urine, so just react as if I'm peeing on you.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Also, I'm a dog. He deserves an acting credit. at the end credits, it should say, like, dog piss played by. Green tea. Dog piss technician? Yeah. Why not? Ms. Killer, I really just, I'm as uncomfortable as you are, but I want to get this one take.
Starting point is 01:22:55 One take. I think we agree. One take. Hey, Raja, one take. I'll be fake pissed on exactly one time in a production. Once per production. Would it be too much to ask for an autograph? Oh, never bite.
Starting point is 01:23:08 I'm sorry. Oh, it was terrible. unprofessional of me. If Netflix calls, they can dunk me and piss every episode. So we end the show. And now as we end every show here, we hate movies live,
Starting point is 01:23:22 Eric is dunked and piss. Good night everybody. Splash. Eric, in the dunk tank. Kids want to come up and throw some balls? Look at this, by the way, 2008 Scooby-Doo and the Goblin King. What? Voicing the Goblin King, Tim Curry. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:39 A pal. Wow. that's a cartoon so long as scrappy do is a dinn it yes because that scrappy do was not idiot hey you know what the dude's got standards man
Starting point is 01:23:52 I fucking I totally appreciate it's a weird because also the weird thing like it's this weird this guy's like trying to get her drunk it feels like it's a very weird scene like where something gets cut out of it
Starting point is 01:24:02 because like a monster shows up but he's like hey you want another drink babe and she's like yeah sure okay yeah he is like They're kind of getting wasted. And then, like, I don't, I don't understand what the motivation is here. And again, maybe one too many Scooby snacks. But, like, Fred starts giving some speech about monsters not being real.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Yes. And he's, like, addressing the whole bar. Yeah. And then the monsters come in and start attacking. And I was like, all right. I guess never mind. This is like, I think they're trying to do an interesting play on things there because it's like in the show, every monster was fake, right?
Starting point is 01:24:37 And here we have real monster. and it's not exciting. It's not exciting. I mean, like, I can't believe you blew your whole fucking wad on, like, having the dude revealed at the end, you know, in the beginning of your first mystery that's ending as the movie starts. Like, that's, I would not have complained
Starting point is 01:24:56 if that was just the movie. Like, that's Scooby-Doo. The fact that there's, like, actual paranoid, and it's like a magical, cursed island, much like the show lost. Like, it's stupid. And all these, I mean, we cannot overest, stress how shitty these things look and like they should be and they're like they get so much
Starting point is 01:25:14 play because like there's a villain the antagonist so it's like oh I guess it's supposed to be sort of there's sort of like gremlin-esque I would call them kind of like they're like seven seven foot gremlins yes exactly but they look like shit and yada yada fred and fred and velma get kidnapped here um oh my god it's a giant gremlin it can crush me with its fucking green Claws. But yeah, Fred and Velma were captured. Along with, like, they say a bunch of other
Starting point is 01:25:45 college students, Rowan Atkinson is like ripped through the floor or some shit. That's something. Yeah. There's indeed something. Velma has an actual my glasses. Oh, right. Yes. Right, because that's how she's captured, like the monster
Starting point is 01:26:01 lifts her up. She does kind of a weird thing where she's like, she's thinking she's in the cartoon too, because she's pulling on the fucking face trying to get the mask to come off and she's just like stretching this monster's face. It's very awkward. It is. It looks terrible. It's just like the worst CGI you could imagine barely moving. I forgot. I forgot. Rowan Atkinson, when he gets pulled down, it's like the demon rabbit thing fists him and pulls him down with the fist still in him. You're totally right, Kevin, because
Starting point is 01:26:32 I thought I was like, because like the CGI and the effects here are all like muddled and shit. I was like, is he impaled by a floorboard right now? I couldn't understand what was going on, but it definitely looks like something is like puppeting. Yes. His legs are up and he's in midair. Oh, no. Mr. Bean
Starting point is 01:26:52 gets ass fucked. I'll watch it. Of course. So, yeah, so Daphne and Shaggy are still together and they're like, oh, we got to find help. And Daphne is like, no, no, no, Shaggy.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Like, this time, we're going to be the ones who are rescuing our friends. We're always getting captured. We're going to rescue our friends. So the first way to do that is to do a little reconnaissance walking right through the middle of a Sugar Ray concert. Oh, yeah, you have to go find other monsters. I mean, yeah, that's true. But like, a monster attacked spooky island.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And the next morning, Sugar Ray still goes on. It's crazy. pretty odd. I also think it's the worst, it's the worst of all worlds because it's like late period sugar ray. It's not even like any of the hits. I don't know what the song is. I don't know what that's fucking song. I mean, not the good stuff, but the better stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:50 It's not fly or every morning. Yeah, those are the two. Every morning and there's a halo hanging on the corner of my girlfriends for post bed. Shut the dog, babe. Don't say a word. Yep. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yep. Put your arms. around the baby. Oh, yeah. Around the baby. This is what we mean when we're talking about like the 2000s, the worst, the worst period
Starting point is 01:28:17 of human culture. But that was like trash sugar ray from the late 90s. This is like 2002. What are you still doing here? I guess that's the thing is decades bleed together, right? Folks, so the late 90s into I don't know, everything's still shit, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Late 90s forward. It's just pure shit. yeah exactly 99 was the pinnacle of culture that's all been down hill you know what i guess the past wasn't any good either so you know it's fuck all human history um scooby do i do love mark mcgrath is like serenating uh daphne right here yeah uh and she's like kind of into it or whatever um so they do discover fred is hanging out at like a beer pong table or something and now the whole thing is like i feel like the direction is like okay fred like now that you've been turned this monster. You're just a bro
Starting point is 01:29:08 now. And that's the joke. All right. And also, Linda, I swear to God, we're not being weird. Your outfit is changing because your monster self wants to show more of its human skin. You buy that, Linda?
Starting point is 01:29:25 Well, even if you don't, that's what contracts are for. Now, get out there. This late period outfit is nuts. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Oh, this is also well so they're like racing around the island and uh some dude what is there's a dude that like jumps at them like he's fucking night crawler that's sugar a isn't it oh is it's not is it mark mcgrath they all
Starting point is 01:29:50 turn into night crawlers they're monsters yeah oh that's right because i remember there's a crazy shot of like the bass player making this like weird face and i was like oh man now like the other guys in sugaray are getting close-ups that sucks i guess the idea is mark McGrath and the other guys, the other, the sugars and the rays, they're all in this soul vat and they're, they've been replaced by these demons. Yes. Um, also replaced by a demon is Mary Jane. She's like a secret monster. It's a weird thing where like Shaggy and Scooby and her are like riding these quads trying to escape. And will Shaggy and Scooby steal these squads to get away from these dudes? And then like they pick her up and she, he, He, like, Scooby sees her, like, demon face or whatever. Right. A branch hits her face, which is pretty funny. Yeah, it sort of, like, discombobulates the monster's disguise or whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:49 And Scooby sees it. And they kind of get into a little bit of a fight here. This sort of, like, you know, breaks them up a little bit because Scooby's like, hey, man, I'm pretty sure your girlfriend's a fucking crazy monster. And, you know, he and Shaggy kind of get into it here. This is just about the round of time. where I'm saying this movie is too long. Even though it's 85 minutes.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Yeah, this is getting a little tedious here. And do you guys remember the line that the dog has here to the human here? No, what's that? That he's whipped. Yep. Oh, right. Ripped. He's ripped. He's ripped, Eric.
Starting point is 01:31:23 He's, yes, because, uh, because he's like, lay off scoob or whatever. Like, she's my lady. And he's like, you're fucking whipped. And I'm like, thanks. That 2002. Great. movies for guys who like movies Scooby-Doo. Yep, exactly. It's a fucking, that's for the Spike TV crowd, dude, right there. We were talking about Pluto TV all over this goddamn episode. There's Spike, somehow Spike resurfaced.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Because it is all, there's multiple spike channels on there. Yeah, it's, it's a problematic playground to be in. My favorite line is when Scooby says, Roe for Rose. there is a funny thing here where Matthew Lillard is talking to Mary Jane and he's going to go I think he's like investigating a cave or something like that and it's Matthew Lillard actually saying
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'll be right back which I think is kind of funny that's a little of the scream heads on the audience for sure yeah I was like hey look at that and he goes in and he finds his Vat of Souls he picks up first he picks up Fred it's pretty funny where Fred pretends he's or thinks he was dosed
Starting point is 01:32:36 somebody put some of my drink last night man you got to talk me down I'm like all right oh right that made me kind of laugh I'll be that was something I think though doesn't Velma go first because we're talking she like has to explain to Shaggy what's going on and she's like jinkies
Starting point is 01:32:52 I think my protoplasm is and I'm like what are we doing and this is this scene right here this magical pool or whatever is when the movie solidifies that we actually are dealing with paranormal shit and I'm just like
Starting point is 01:33:08 no man that's not the thing that I showed up to watch I wanted these like you know roided out gremlins to be like some superior fucking robot thing with a fucking person inside them yes not actual monsters and souls what are we shang suing
Starting point is 01:33:25 and all over the place here but why but why think of a good reason or a good reveal when you can just stupid you can always just stupid and they often do that. Dumb gonna dumb, dude, you're right. But yeah, so he's like,
Starting point is 01:33:39 all right, if I pull these fucking like shrunken head soul balls out of this pool and let them go, they fly back into the body of the person they belong to is the idea. And this is the fucked up thing because he's pulling out these heads and he's like, all right, there's Velma,
Starting point is 01:33:57 there's Fred, and he's looking for Daphne and he pulls out some other girl and he's like, the head is like, oh, please save me or whatever. And he's like, sorry, I'm looking for my friends and puts this girl back in? No, just rip them all out until the pool's empty. It's such a weird moment in the movie.
Starting point is 01:34:14 He's like, no, no, no. You go back to being whatever this eternal trap is. Well, you know what? It's your classic, like, you know, Shaggy was a stoner in his 20s. He's now in his early 30s. He's like, I got mine, man. All I care about is me and my friends. He's just giving a speech about family.
Starting point is 01:34:33 drinking Corona and barbecuing. Well, he's Gen X, right? He's monstrously selfish. Yeah, he's really excited about Sebadot going back on tour. Are they? No, I'm kidding. Oh, right. So this is when we get some body switch humor.
Starting point is 01:34:51 That's kind of fun, right? That's what you want. Yeah, sure. What the fuck? Daphne goes into Fred's body. Fred goes in Daphne's body. Clarity ensues. They have to go, they wind up all walking in a circle, going in a circle to
Starting point is 01:35:03 whole gang gets back together. You go, Eric. Steve, let me, let me, let me stop you right there for a second because isn't it funny to have like a woman with a man's voice and a man with a woman's voice? I'm slapping my dad knee right now. It's just like it doesn't, you know, if you're switched bodies, you know, wouldn't the voices, wouldn't you, I'm in Fred's body. I talk like Fred, fucker. And immediately, like, they all, the sexualization will never stop because like once us, Fred's and Sarah Michelle's body's like hey look at these fucking tits and i'm like come on he's like i can play with myself all day okay i mean so one first of all if that happened to any of us that's exactly how we'd react
Starting point is 01:35:43 we just wouldn't publicize it in such a way well i wouldn't do it in a fucking children's movie well that's exactly that was point two was there's there are different body swap movies in where that way i might not tell my dog friend about it yeah exactly like yes sure uh you know i actually a body swapped in a situation absolutely but if I'm in a program for children I'm not gonna be like oh shit I can't wait to flick my fucking bead to listen to a degree you are you are
Starting point is 01:36:10 swapping into someone you presumably respect or whatever are you really going to defile their body to like such links immediately after this transfer Eric if you and I swap bodies it would be less than two minutes before I look to your penis
Starting point is 01:36:25 you know what I don't know man we'll see I just feel like there should be some mutual respect between this gang I see there's none here between the Scooby gang I would hope well they're all ex-co workers
Starting point is 01:36:41 man you know so they wind up going in a circle and like there's this funny gang funny gag where everyone keeps going into each other's bodies do you want to know how this originally ended by the way
Starting point is 01:36:53 gang bang no close Stephen King Gang bang oh we got to get that fucking turtle to help us out, man. We got a gang thing. Hey, there's the turtle. It is, apparently,
Starting point is 01:37:09 yada, yada, Daphne and Velma could not switch back. They're at each other's bodies. And the only way they could do it, you guys, they got a kiss. No,
Starting point is 01:37:19 are you fucking kidding me? That was James Gunn's famed R-rated cut or I don't know if they filmed it or it was on the script. And it was just like, is James Gunn jacking off to his 70s? And look, you know, I understand, like, you were sexualized by Scooby-Doo as a kid. I understand.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I totally get it. No, no. You're making a movie for children. No, you don't understand. I'm not a pervert. I'm not a pervert at all. I'm just paying homage to cruel intentions. It's not really me just wanting to look at women.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Kiss. Yes. No, it's just this movie I love called Cruel Attention's that isn't terrible. And what's funny is, uh, way to give up the ghost, dude. Like, we all know. know what you're doing. Exactly. You don't have to hit it that directly on the head, man.
Starting point is 01:38:05 That's what the porno parodies are for. And the thing is, like, I would be fine with that if the dudes also kissed, but I know if the dudes kiss, they would write in like, ew or whatever, but like, dude, just give me fucking full on cruel intentions, dudes making out and Scooby-Doo. That would be, that's a way to save this idea. I would say, prediction, Lillard was game for. ready Prince, Jr., not so much. Yeah, probably. That's a prediction. That's just a
Starting point is 01:38:33 prediction. I don't know. Also guaranteed James Gunn definitely didn't write that part of it. The sort of last act is we're going to do a siege on the whatever, the cave where all these monsters are. We get some more exposition from Miguel and
Starting point is 01:38:49 Nunez Jr. It says, oh, there's an ancient ritual that's going to happen tonight. If you don't stop it, monsters are going to rule the world for a thousand years. Again, stakes, not what I want in a Scoopy-Doo movie i want just oh fuck something is going creepy in this old house what's how are we going to solve it i will just around by a ghost yeah i mean that's what i don't understand this happens so much with television properties that are brought into motion picture life from this down to like they do
Starting point is 01:39:18 this in the fucking duck tales movie the duck tales show is they go on these little like pseudo high stakes adventures here and there some of them take place in duckberg some of them don't, whatever. But like, the movie where it's like, now there's this all powerful genie voiced by Christopher Lloyd and he's destroying the, you know, McDuck mansion and all. And you're just like, why are the stakes that high? Why are the stakes this high in this movie? Why is it always like these little TV characters that were always like solving mysteries and sleepy, quiet towns now we're tasked with saving the entire world and human race? Like, don't do that shit. The tone should be, you get you know what you want to make this movie good what you do you fucking a get a real dog b you get richard link later in here and you make dazed and confused but with the scooby gang and just have a little mystery in the background because it should be something a hangout feel like that's what i mostly what i got from the cartoons was like kind of a hang like we're hanging out and yeah we're solving mysteries too we're mostly just hanging out we're just friends we're making
Starting point is 01:40:26 silly sandwiches okay call up link later he'll do it it? No, I won't. I think part of the problem, and this is like the quintessential Hollywood thinking, is like, oh, well, no one's going to come out to see them save a sleepy town. They've seen that on the cartoon forever. This is a movie. Exactly. It's got to be big. It's a big
Starting point is 01:40:45 movie. It's a Hollywood movie. All right. They're saving the world. Chicks are kissing. It's all going on. And so they wind up going, infiltrating his little castle or cave, wherever the fuck. The idea is they're going to use, a disco skull to refract
Starting point is 01:41:02 sunlight destroy all the monsters everyone's dressing up to fit in with the monsters and we all noticed Zangeef is involved in this right guys Zangeef is just like one of the like cave hoodlums or whatever
Starting point is 01:41:16 Shaghy save yourself Shaggy Go save yourself the actor who portrayed Zankeef in street fighter 1994 yes a problem and also a leather face in those Texas chainsaw movies, I believe. Oh, that's those newer ones, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Never saw those ones. You're fine. You're totally fine for the rest of your life. No need to do it. Around here is like, yes, they all, they decide we're going to go in, we're going to team back up. There is a thing where like at the airport, Shaggy tried to get them to do like all hands in, whoa, kind of a thing. They refuse to do it at the airport.
Starting point is 01:41:50 They do it here. And it's followed immediately by the absolute worst line in the movie. There is like, the camera fucking tilts up Linda Cardellini almost like pseudo extreme close up
Starting point is 01:42:06 right here the world stops dead and she goes let's get jinky with it and let me tell you gentlemen it is just like that gag on the Simpsons if you pause it just right
Starting point is 01:42:18 you can see part of her soul leaving her body forever she never got it back after she said let's get jinky with it for money it's so fucking and like 2002 when was
Starting point is 01:42:29 let's get jiggy with it. Isn't that all so old by that point? Yeah, that's like 99. It's got to be. Because it wasn't it on the Willenium? It was part of the Willenium. It was. That's the things. When the Willenium hit, time stopped for like 10 years and it was just 1999 every year.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Oh, God. What horror. Millennium. Oh no, it's Robbie Williams. I always wonder we want to hate and I'm an under sock as I'm in my eye. eyes. You know way more Robbie Williams than I do. Just that
Starting point is 01:43:03 song, man. Yeah, getting jiggy with it. 1998. Oh, yeah, that's for sure. Oh, excuse me, though, it was not on Willenium. It was on, it was the third single from Big Willie style. Oh, of course. That album was huge when I was in grade school. Huge. Massively huge.
Starting point is 01:43:19 I mean, it is. Big Willie. It's a tragedy when an actress has to do that, say a line like that. And that's the kind of thing that leads you to have to play the wife of a character played by Jeremy Renner. It is a funny thing. Thank you, Chris, because I was going to bring this up.
Starting point is 01:43:32 She took, like, three years away from acting. I mean, she probably made small stuff. She came back as the mom to end all moms. She's like, mom and all over the place now. She's like, 35. It's like, it's kind of silly. She, I mean, she's great on that Dead to Me show on Netflix. We haven't started the second season.
Starting point is 01:43:52 I mean, don't even say, but freaks and geeks is the best. Oh, sure. Oh, yeah, sure. I mean, well, she was, she was great. Yeah. She was like a teenager Beat, beat, beat, and now she's mom She's in her 40s now, I think
Starting point is 01:44:05 Yeah, I mean, she's turning 50 this year Turning 50, wow, I didn't know that Or did I do that math right? No, sorry, she's turning 45 Okay, 45 years of age But also, isn't she a wife in Brokeback Mountain? No, that's Anne Hathaway. Who is she in Brokeback Mountain then?
Starting point is 01:44:24 I don't think she's in Brooklyn. She's 100% in Brokeback Mountain. Okay, she played the marriage. She played the mountain. Oh, of course. Randy Quaid's daughter? No. Or maybe she was like one of the people that was like trying to hit on somebody.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I haven't too broke back in a long time. Maybe she's one of the wives. But I always thought it was Ann Hathaway and Michelle Williams. Yeah, those are the two wives. I don't know. Oh, you know what? She might be David Harbor and Jake Gyllenhaal are about to fuck in that movie. And Dave Harbor has a wife.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I think that might be her. Got it. Oh, okay. Wow. This is just reminding me like I really need to revisit that movie. I remember really liking it. Yeah, I haven't seen it in ages. She's kind of a bummer.
Starting point is 01:45:01 It's not her fault, but the storyline kind of sucks. Her part in Madman is just kind of like a retread and not. It's just, again, like she's totally good in it, yada, yada, yada. She's like a teacher he doesn't fuck or something? No, she's a woman that lives in his building that he's secretly fucking and it's just sort of like. Oh, is that the, there's a bit of shenanigans where like she's going out the like back door in his apartment and the husband's knocking on the door. Okay. Yeah, I do remember that.
Starting point is 01:45:25 That's by the time he's in. what is Don Draper's sickest fucking cat. Oh, dude, that is a place. That is a, that is a place I would sell my literal soul for. Can you say, uh, getting jinky with it? Now, Stephen, just say this right into the camera and your Madison Avenue apartment will be right for you. Oh, dude, I'd be getting jinky with it all over the place.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Yeah, I would 100% say that line for one. I would shit in my pants on camera and look at the camera. Like, I jinked myself just to live in that apartment. I would jink off on camera. I'll say it. Um, so. so yeah they're like preparing to do this whole thing shaggy fucks it up because he like puts a carabiner in the wrong spot and he goes flying he fucking falls on a dude uh who he knocks out
Starting point is 01:46:09 and like steals his uniform or whatever classic gag there he finds scooby who's we should say scooby they are preparing to sacrifice him rowan atkinson has been like uh oh hey scooby like here's some food for you by the way i'm gonna he says scooby do i'm going to sacrifice you and Scooby doesn't know what the word sacrifice means so he's like totally on board for all this free food. I think it's hilarious. It's a funny gag. Ooh, recrifice.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like it's a real Scooby-Dew like Homer Simpson moment. Exactly. It made me laugh. I mean, it's a gag. It's a gag. Yeah. I mean, I feel like this movie just pained me to watch personally. I don't think I laughed once. I was
Starting point is 01:46:52 just sitting there like Bruno Gans in a bunker. but so there's there's like some sort of like dance that's going on for the ritual and they are outed because Fred fucks it up yeah and tries to cover it with the worst like y'all forgot the next part of the dance and he's doing the electric slide and dude my asshole closed for business it was like clenchedown this is so embarrassing it is it's it's a jinky with it kind of an embarrassment it really is dude but i mean the electric slide's even older you're
Starting point is 01:47:25 not at a fucking bad wedding. Come on. It's so awful. But so anyway, yeah, they're trying to save him. They can't figure out what to do. Scooby's being brought in to be sacrificed. And Shaggy is one of the guys like holding him and he's like, hey, Scoob, we're friends, right? You got to trust me here. Sacrifice
Starting point is 01:47:46 is not a great word in this context. They're going to do some bad things, man. We got to do what we do best and get out of here. and they try to like run meanwhile this machine that he has it's like a claw machine looking thing that just steals people's souls by impaling their chest
Starting point is 01:48:05 again a little dark for my Scooby film honestly yeah my big note on the script would be like don't kill Scooby do the name the lovable character at the title dude when he like dies and you look at this dead dog fucking CGI puppet it's rough man it is a rough ride it's a slumped
Starting point is 01:48:23 over pile of cartoon and I could not take it. Rough ride. But so there's a bunch of shenanigans right here, yada, yada, yada. Rowan Atkinson like gets hit or whatever and they're like, oh wow, we got him and then he's like malfunctioning and it's like, what a robot?
Starting point is 01:48:41 His chest opens and it's fucking scrappy do there, man. And God damn that sucks. It just sucks. I mean, it's just a dumb reveal. Like, okay. I just don't care. and as a scrappy defender, you know, obviously I don't like the turn
Starting point is 01:48:57 for this character. Even though I don't remember the character that one. You feel betrayed a little bit? Yeah, but it's just like I just feel like it's it's, I guess they want to establish that like someone who knew the gang is betraying them or whatever, but I just don't give a fuck and
Starting point is 01:49:12 well, it's just a winky thing because most people you know, don't like Scrappy as like oh, that guy always sucked blah blah, he ruined the show in that like super Gen Xie hang a hat out of it way. And that's what I guess that sort of is. Yeah, and it's just obnoxious because, like, if they didn't bother with any of that flashback
Starting point is 01:49:29 stuff, or this, the, the prologue with them, like, breaking up after solving a more traditional mystery, like, if they didn't bother with any of that, you wouldn't have to acknowledge it. It should have been a thing where, like, the fucking end of this movie, if you absolutely have to, the end of this movie is, like, there's a stinger,
Starting point is 01:49:45 here's Scrappy Doe, and he's fucking doing something. You know what I mean? Like, just putting him immediately in this movie and making him, like, the villain of this, it's just like, it's, it is just too much. Yep, ladies and gentlemen. And look, whatever. He also, speaking of your point, Chris,
Starting point is 01:50:00 a son of the mask, he turns into a hulking dog here. This is dumb. It's gross. What are you doing? Like, this was the plan. He's harvesting all these souls to, like, get fucking jacked like Bain? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:50:18 I set you up for it. Come on. You gotta do it. I don't know It looks fucking terrible So they knock over Oh here's I found it in my notes Here is where she sounds exactly like Buffy
Starting point is 01:50:33 She is fighting that Luchador And the Luchador like falls backwards Over a well And he's kind of like holding himself up precariously And she goes Now who's the damsel in distress And like kicks him down the well And I'm like that's a fucking Buffy line
Starting point is 01:50:47 Which is also it's a callback to earlier in the film The Luchador grabs her And he's like laughing is like, ha, ha, ha. A damsel in distress. Oh, you're a damsel in distress. Oh, yes. You are bored of distress.
Starting point is 01:51:03 This is what is it? So whatever. The fucking vat spills over. All the ghosts fly out. The disco ball comes out, kills all the monsters. And I believe it's, is it Shaggy who's like,
Starting point is 01:51:16 you're a bad puppy and rips the heart out of this thing? No. He rips it right out of this monster. It's fucking crazy. And then all these souls are like departing the island and flying all over the world. Which means, by the way, because we've seen what happens when the soul goes back into the body, the monster pops back out. So they tip over this vat of like all these previous spooky island guests.
Starting point is 01:51:37 And they all fly back to wherever the owners are of the souls, right? That means there's like this fucking epidemic of like monsters all over the world. Especially, yeah, if it's dark, you know what I mean? In time zones, it's probably dark somewhere else. You know what I mean? Oh, you got to take into a case. count time zones, dude? Is the next movie them, like, painstakingly
Starting point is 01:51:56 hunting them down, like fucking like Magneto hunting Nazis in South America? It's not. No, they're actually, the second movie takes place back in Coolsville. They're solving like a local mystery that's actually more kind of in line with the
Starting point is 01:52:11 show, sort of. I agree, but it's a much worse film, if you can imagine. What? No, I literally cannot imagine a worst movie. My favorite part is when Velma finds real Rowan Atkinson and he looks like he's singing for the flaming lips.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Oh, when they pull him out of the floor? He looks like a fucking end of day Saddam Hussein right here. They're fucking pulling him out of the bunker. Speaking of bunkers. They're going to fucking topple a statue and fucking hang him. I wish that happened to fucking Scrappy do in this movie, man. Like that's the thing. Like you see Scrappy at the end of the
Starting point is 01:52:45 so that's it. I'm a legitimate head of state. Scrappy's getting put in like some fucking squad cars. So they're going to put this dog down? Oh, absolutely. You have to. You know, if you take out Scrappy, dude, you're just going to create a power vacuum that might be even worse than Scranton. Yep. Yep, that's right, dude. It's all fun in games when you're initially pulling that statue down. But guess what? Shaggy thinks it's mission accomplished. It is not, my friend. Yeah, sure. Scrappy, you know, he killed like a couple dozen people in trying to perfect this possession technology.
Starting point is 01:53:15 But you know what? He kept the place together. Spooky Island was like a place you could walk around. That's true. Yeah. You could very. visit. It was fine. You know, you don't go out when the sun's down, but, you know. So, yeah, so Rowan Atkinson is alive. Everyone's hugging, blah, blah, blah. Scrappy goes off. Scrappy, as
Starting point is 01:53:33 the door is shutting on the helicopter, says, son of a bitch, and they make it like a, it's like a swear joke you didn't hear the swear from. Oh, right, yes. Yeah, it's like, I'm going to, and it's a close the door. Yeah. And it's a dumbass. We have got a dumbass sequel set up where, like, they're being interviewed by the press,
Starting point is 01:53:49 and Fred learns his lesson. And he's like, actually, Velma came up with the whole plan. You've got to ask her. Sorry, I wish he said that. He says, the Velmster can take it from here. Oh, because that's a dumb thing from like earlier in the movie where she's talking about how like everyone's got nicknames or whatever. And it's like, well, yours, if you had one, would be the Velmster. So yeah, he puts it in use here.
Starting point is 01:54:12 And they're like, oh, do you have any comments on the mud ball ghoul in London? Oh. They say. So it's like, Mystery Inc. is back in the saddle, blah, blah, blah. And then you have this obnoxious, like, the movie's over. It's, like, directed by Raja Gossano, written by James Gunn.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Q, Baja Men. Yeah, Obaha Men. This was the second fucking time. Man, oh, I can't remember what we were watching, but the other day we were watching a movie, and a song came on, and I said to Chelsea, I was like, is that the Baja man? And sure enough, it was. And then
Starting point is 01:54:44 just last night, this song comes on, I was like, was that the Baja man? And I looked up, I was like, holy shit, two soundtracks. in one weekend. I can't even believe two soundtracks in the same week. Oh, no, no, no. I remember that totally. There's a Baja Men's song and no country for old men. Oh, yes, of course.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Who let the dogs out, friend? Who let them? Who let them out? Well, Carla Jean, I'm fixing to do something stupid. Might have dogs out. Having a dream where my father was riding on a horse
Starting point is 01:55:14 next to the Baja men drove off into the friskillating dusklight. Tell my mother, the dogs out. I guess I'll tell you myself. This, this dumb ass fucking, it's not even a stinger scene because like there's two credits and it goes back to the movie.
Starting point is 01:55:32 And it's just like shaggy and Scooby, I guess still at this resort. Sure. Eating hot peppers in a contest is the idea. Yeah. You know what? Yeah, because that dumb and dumber, it was like a decade ago.
Starting point is 01:55:43 We can do this. And man, I got to tell you when it ends, this neon green almost comic sands font we're using it's gross it's a rough ride it's offensive uh someone that likes fonts that's offensive uh but that is the end of this movie uh would anybody recommend scooby do call in the movie i would it's you know what it's a light recommend for me it's it's a time capsule for sure of the early aughts do you need to know how terrible this is i do also feel like and i'm i could
Starting point is 01:56:12 hear them now i can imagine being a little kid when this movie came out and really loving it and playing the fucking tape out and still finding things that I like about it. Much like I am with like the movie The Mask or most of early Jim Carrey. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. Baby shit for babies that just gets see that just get see there are worse things in this category, but it is just a pale imitation of Josie the Pussycats. A light recommend for me. And Lillard is great. I agree
Starting point is 01:56:42 that Matthew Lillard is great, but the rest of this is Quint at the chalkboard. It's just like non fucking stop screeching in my ear I hate this so much I can't even tell you So that's a no? That's a big no for me
Starting point is 01:56:57 No no no qualifiers on this one I'm not going to mitigate it This fuck this movie Gotcha I'm with the Chris Cabin delegation delegation here I fucking hate this This might have been one of the worst
Starting point is 01:57:12 movies I've watched for this program I hated every single second of what transpired on screen. Sure, Matthew Lillard is good, but not like this. Not like this. So it's a big no for me. I'm kind of in Camp Sadec this week, man. I definitely agree with you, Steve. If you were born, you know, between the years like 1990 and 1996, you might have some like childhood memories of this or whatever. And I, you know, I get it. It's totally fine. I do think
Starting point is 01:57:49 Lillard is great and I you know I think honestly that that's almost enough alone for me to just recommend it as a thing not as like a sit down and watch the movie as a like I'm doing something else and I need something yeah I want some background
Starting point is 01:58:04 whatever on because like everything else about this is very disappointing also credit to Linda Cardalini I do think she is good as Valma but just overall I have to say though as far as what like metric systems or like rating systems or whatever that Apple uses to sort of list stuff in the order when you search for things. So I have an Apple TV. I do the voice search on the
Starting point is 01:58:30 remote. So I just said Scooby-Doo. The first thing that came up was, well, it was Scoob and then this movie. And then like fucking 40 years of cartoon specials. And then the sequel was at like the back of the list. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. pretty shitty there but yeah I don't know super light recommend when you're doing other shit I guess but that's going to do it for week one of the 2020 we hate movies
Starting point is 01:58:56 summer blockbuster extravaganza this was Scooby-Doo the movie directed by Raja Gossnell so as always here on We Hate Movies there is another episode right around the corner next Tuesday ready and waiting for you and of course the summer blockbuster extravaganza is just getting
Starting point is 01:59:12 started Steve Sadek what are we talking about next week? Steven Somers the mummy. Oh, this one was a long time coming to get Brendan Fraser, Arnold Vossloo. Rachel Weiss, man. Now, I feel like me remembering this movie, it's a W-H-M. For you guys,
Starting point is 01:59:30 is it a W-L? Like, where we stand on the mummy. I've always been an H on this, and I'm actually kind of glad that we're quarantined right now, because I feel like people are going to throw rocks at us in the streets for this one. It is a popular ep, in a popular movie. I like the movie. I watch it very, about, like, five months ago, something like that, late 2019. You just go to the summer's filmography, I guess.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Yeah, I was very interested. I'm a completest there. Well, it is summer. The H&W, the H&L kind of are meaningless. We've done hard target on the WHM feed, and that movie's perfect. Yes, truly, exactly. Yeah, I will say I'm pretty sure I've seen this movie in excess of 25 times. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:00:13 No, I was, it was a DVD title. just I really feel like it's one and done it never connected with me I did not like it for some reason maybe I'll be proven wrong yeah I'm it'll be interesting I'm curious to re-watching I'm very excited for this re-evaluation but before we go we should mention that all of our T public profits
Starting point is 02:00:29 now we have a merch store if you go to our go to WHM podcast dot com click on merch you'll be taken to the T public store we've decided every single dollar we get through that this year is being donated to Black Lives Matter adjacent charities
Starting point is 02:00:45 and we also have a link on the website if you don't want to do merch which is totally understandable and just give it to one of those charities. Absolutely. So check out all that stuff. We will be continuing of course offerings this week. We have Melro 210
Starting point is 02:01:01 coming up on Thursday. We're talking about a ridiculous Allison-centric Melrose place episode. And then do not forget, gang, this Friday, if you are not a patron yet to our Patreon, you might want to get on that patreon.com slash we hate movies because that's right. We are finally dropping. What I think is the most anticipated commentary we've announced yet,
Starting point is 02:01:21 the Catsman Terry. It is in the can. It is ready to go this Friday. Take yourself into the weekend by watching a really shitty movie with us. So that will be on the Patreon feed. How funny is that, by the way. We just talked about a movie about a dog and now we got the Catsman Terry. That's true. It's just we're getting all sorts of animals here on We Hate Movies. And we got Melrose Place where we're talking about Billy. He's a fucking dumb ape.
Starting point is 02:01:44 a regular barnyard, right, Chris? Yes, indeed. So all that to come. So until next week when the summer blockbuster extravaganza rolls on with Stephen Somers The Mummy, I'm Andrew Jupin. Reven, Radar. Eric Siskin. Rick and Reilly.
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