We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 493 - The Mask

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

On this week's episode, the 2020 Summer Blockbuster Extravaganza heads to Edge City where the gang has a spirited chat about the 1994 Jim Carrey smash hit, The Mask! Why couldn't the studio let this b...e closer to the Hard R content of the comic? Was this film responsible for the return of swing music? And how exhausted must Jim Carrey have been for like, all of 1995-98? PLUS: Freddy Krueger and The Mask... the same person? WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. The Mask stars Jim Carrey, Cameron Diaz, Peter Riegert, Peter Greene, Amy Yasbeck, Richard Jeni, and Reg E. Cathey; directed by Chuck Russell. Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, somebody stop us. It's the mask. I'm Andrew Jupping. Smoking. Steve Seda. Eric Masca. Cuban, Chris. And we hate movies. Hello, Hello, everyone, welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always, and thank you for catching us right. smack dab in the middle of our summer blockbuster extravaganza. This week, we're talking about a big one. It's the mask from 1994 directed by Chuck Russell. This guy, by the way, this director, crazy filmography in a good way. Really? Chuck Russell, what do you got for us? Schwarzenegger's Eraser was one that came to mind. Oh, previous episode. Yeah, let me look this guy up.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He's got some good stuff. But by the way, we are doing this in the summer right now because it's smoking hot out there. You know what? he did a nightmare on Elm Street three Dream Warriors. That's right. Freddie Kruger and the mask are almost the same character. Yep. Almost exactly. Both child killers. Both noted child killers. The mask
Starting point is 00:01:42 is a little bit more creative, I would say. Somebody stop me. I'm killing kids. Uh-oh, I just lit this little girl on fire. She's smoking. Oh, no, they're shopping me. Oh, shit. Let me out. Let me out. Get me out.
Starting point is 00:01:56 The 1988 Blab Remake Bless the Child from 2000. I was, I was gonna say that's an old ass episode. Dude, I don't remember that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:06 I know we did it, but I don't remember it. Is that the movie with Kim Basinger? There's like some cult or something. With like Christina Ricci. I remember we were
Starting point is 00:02:14 incredibly rude about Rufus Sewell's eye in that episode. I would apologize out loud there. Some of us were completely rude about that. It was me. I like him.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He's a good actor. He is a good actor. I'm just an asshole. Eric, you actually, you don't have to worry about the release date completists this time around because this movie was released in July of 1994.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, nice. You know what else Chuck Russell did is a future episode of The Scorpion King. That's correct. Oh, God. And a 20, guys, I got to say quickly, a 2016 movie called I Am Rath starring John Travolta
Starting point is 00:02:48 filmed in Columbus, Ohio. Oh, meo, Ohio. Oh, no, I was going to say, I thought, because I have seen some of these secret recent John Travolta movies. This is not one of them, though. I did not see this movie. Wow. Christopher Maloney, Sam Trammell,
Starting point is 00:03:05 Rebecca DeMorne. Wow, what a movie. Can I let you guys know that in 16 months Jim Carrey released Ace Ventura The Mask, Dumb and Dumber, and then Batman Forever. 16 months between Ace Ventura and
Starting point is 00:03:22 Batman Forever bringing up the rear. And he doesn't have to work again after that. I mean, everything else is just like, I want to do this after that. I mean, the year of 1994 was just an incredible time to be Jim Carrey. There's no way around it. I mean, they didn't, I guess the way, I was sort of reading, like, he only made like $450,000 for this movie or something like that because it was greenlit and went into production before Ace Ventura was like the surprise hit that it was.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So the production, like New Line totally dodged a bullet. like ooh okay because then when he went on to do dumb and dumber he inked like an insane deal for that movie and then batman forever he famously got 20 million which was one of the biggest salaries if not the biggest at the time right right right and he just amazing 94 uh he also left um uh in living color obviously right right right right you forget that that that really i mean his career on the sketch show really like backed up into the movies like that i kind of forget that i was kind of anyone to see this on uh he had tweeted some sort of black lives matter thing some fucking assholes got after him and he did like really go above and beyond and be like yo i would not have a career if not for black people so
Starting point is 00:04:39 thanks but no thanks you know what i mean like if you oh no i didn't see that i literally my career was made by black people because white hollywood didn't give a shit about me in the 90s and that's totally true like he i think you watched out of an snal audition kind of a thing Oh, is there like some famous videotape or something like that? Something like that. Well, he just like, he tried and it just didn't work. Like they didn't like, I didn't like him. Oh, I don't think that's particularly funny.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I think he's too big for them. Yeah. Well, now, yeah, but back when he was struggling. I mean, even on in living color, like he was outsized. Like that fire marshal bill is a like insane character to have on TV. Yeah. Oh, I see what you mean by big. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, that was like a Fox personality. That was not. Yeah. Maybe you want to go to Fox, possibly. I think they have some sort of sketch show over there filled with people I don't hire until someone makes me.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I like the idea of Lord Michael's having all the videotapes and like, it's the boulevard of broken dreams. So this movie, of course, is one of the biggest things from the 1990s based on a comic book. It was a dark horse comic, Steve. Is that correct? Yes. Oh, yeah, baby. May I interject that it is okay to like?
Starting point is 00:05:51 a movie and in fact I like this movie. I like this movie too. This movie is fine. Did someone already send you a tweet? We haven't finished recording the episode yet. We're recording this days and days before it comes out but somehow someone sent a tweet within that first six minutes or
Starting point is 00:06:07 something we've been recording. Someone has sent a tweet. Continuous tweet technology. That's Sith technology. I think you mean Reddit. I don't think you mean a tweet. I think you mean a Reddit post. I will say I saw, when I was watching this last night, I was like, oh, I've seen this movie a thousand times, one, literally one thousand times. But I don't, I don't think it holds up terribly well. And not in any kind of like big quote unquote problematic way. It's just, it's kind of a mess. I feel like this movie actually holds up better than other Jim Carrey movies of the same era. I mean, probably because there's problematic elements in, you know, Ace Ventura. And I remember Dumbra being pretty good.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Gets up pretty clean, if I remember. I mean, it's been a while, so please don't be like, and what about the seed where? I don't remember it. What about the seed where he takes his shit? What about it? I was trying to say Ace Ventura, and then I realized, oh, shit, I meant Ace Ventura and Ace Ventura, too.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Both of those movies are incredibly problematic for two very different reasons, but yes. Yes, yes. Yeah, no, I was actually kind of surprised about that, too. I was like, oh, this kind of, this movie passes the 2020 test. And for me, it's kind of funny. You know what happened? because I've seen this movie a ton of times
Starting point is 00:07:23 ton of times but not I think any time post Y2K so it had been a really long time since I saw this movie and I think what happened to me this afternoon rewatching it for the first time in so long was what happened to me I told the story recently on the show
Starting point is 00:07:40 or one of our programs when I rewatched Super Troopers for the first time in so many years where I kind of just was watching the mask like, all right. You know what I mean? It just like I did get a couple of laughs here and there,
Starting point is 00:07:55 but it was really just like, oh yeah, you've seen this so many times. And I just found it like totally like not really affecting me as much as I thought it would. I mean, I think it's very enjoyable. I actually like all the CGI work for the most part. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:11 you have the Lawrence Olivier of dog actors here. Oh my God. Oh, my sweet Jesus. Look at this performance. Oh, what is it? Max the dog, rest in peace clearly. But he was really something. Oh, no, he's still alive. He's 43 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Oh, nice. Oh, that's pretty cool. Dog is celebrating his 35th birthday this week. That's my impression of that dog accepting his birthday present. Jim was very good to me on set. He petted me often. You can see that this dog loves Jim Carrey
Starting point is 00:08:40 dude. The way he's giving him kisses here and there throughout the whole thing. Oh, it's sweet. It's a sweet. It's a terrific dog. He's doing the headcock. He's doing jumping. He's got all the stuff. He's got all the tricks. When he's getting the keys from the, and he has the eye perfectly.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's just amazing. You read my mind, Chris. That's exactly what I was going to point out. It's a dog making eye contact with a fellow actor right there. You love to see it, folks. You actually do love to see it. I would love a two-hander, like a waiting for Godot with two of our greatest actors, which would be this dog and the dog from the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh, yeah. As Vladimir and Estragon, you know what I mean? Like, really just dig it into the work, an all dog waiting for de Godot. They're giving you a two-hander while they're waiting? No, no, no, no, it's a two-handed play, you see. It'd be a two-paw, first of all, Eric. Waiting for dog-go, maybe? Waiting for de go.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, okay. Yeah, there you go. You know what was refreshing, and I guess I just haven't watched one of their movies in a while, but just seeing that new line logo? Yes, I had the same thing. It was just like a, oh. And there is something. There is something just so, like, 90s.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I mean, there's a lot of 90s about the movie, but I guess, like, it just, like, the, the, uh, sort of nostalgia that could be found adjacent to this movie was also sort of, like, flowing through my brain and through my feelings while I was watching it. It's also the music, like, the intro music is rushing. Like, I, I immediately keyed in and I was like, holy shit, I remember this one. It's, it's very much, New Line had that. They did that with Mortal Kombat as well.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You know what I mean? They knew how to start a movie. And I do think this movie feels like a big summer movie, doesn't it? It just something about it. And maybe it's like the big production design because it's very inspired by Dick Tracy and those Burton Batman movies for sure. Yeah, definitely. And one of my notes is Bright Gotham. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yes, it is a Bright Gotham. I mean, I love the, you know, after the New Line logo, the first thing you see is just this big mat painting. And, you know, it says Edge City. Population Me. Welcome to Edge City. Oh my God, where we're almost coming all the time. Holy chick away your car. You have to weigh your car because by weighing your car,
Starting point is 00:11:05 you will know whether or not that human being has come soon. Come recently, I should say. I do love the mad painting. And by the way, guys, there is a deleted scene I first saw it today. It's the Vikings discovering edge. city and burying the mask in the chest on the beach, which would eventually, I guess, a road
Starting point is 00:11:23 away to be in the harbor later that is then discovered by a hap... I guess is a scuba guy that actually wants to find it, but then he gets hit by a fucking pipe, which is pretty cool. These guys are like some, like, engineers doing some kind of underwater construction
Starting point is 00:11:39 thing. One of the most unintentionally funny things in this movie is the guy who's like the foreman who's directing the people to put the pipe down in the water and he's like, yeah, yeah, drop it just like that, drop it right now
Starting point is 00:11:55 and it just like totally falls into the water. I think that scuba diver is crushed by this thing. Oh, and you pan up and Elon Musk is there and he's like, I could have done that. I could have found a mask. Actually, they're all pedophiles. They all, they touch the children.
Starting point is 00:12:11 The man who discovers a mask loves little children. Now I'm going to name my baby, a dumb serious. of numbers and figures. I thought that fucking name was the name of the submarine he was going to make to rescue those kids. Oh, I've invented something very interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's called the subway. Ever heard of it? Yeah, we have. Yes, I know my rocket looks like a penis. What of it? I do. Does his rocket look like a wiener? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So they all? I guess so. This one especially so. I watched that deleted scene that Eric said with the Vikings and I kind of want even like the prologue of like whatever Norse village this is where a Viking village
Starting point is 00:12:54 wearing some fucking asses wrong guy somebody stop me yeah look I'm pillaging this village and killing all of these babies somebody stop me all these kids are smoking drinking need
Starting point is 00:13:10 yes swing music for some reason was this Take it out specifically because of the dig against the Italians. Well, at the end of this cut scene here, which is surprisingly long, and you get a lot of Viking dialogue with the subtitles. Is that right? Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They say, like, oh, this land is now cursed. But one of the guys is like, but you discovered this new land. Like, what shall we name it? It's like, oh, it's cursed. So leave it to the Italians. And I believe that's a reference to the guy who names it America later on, right? an italian map maker yeah some some dude actually named america or whatever americanus or i don't know i mean obviously it was not roman era but you know mitch america yeah i remember him
Starting point is 00:13:56 america is named after our amerigo vis this this poochie an italian explorer interesting oh yeah i love how i butchered that name i am i am married to an italian and i can't I can't even say her name. We cut you, and I think this is a crime. I don't think Jolie Fisher and Amy Asbeck are allowed to be in the same movie. Like, what the fuck are we doing, guys? One was on wings, one was on Ellen, like two. All you need to do is get the lady from news radio in there,
Starting point is 00:14:29 and I'll have fucking no idea what's going on. Oh, the woman who played Beth? Yes. Oh, I can't think of the actresses name. No, no, no, no. The woman who was George Costan's assistant on Seinfeld that he sleeps with at one point. I can't think of her name. She's so fucking funny on news radio though. We'll have to
Starting point is 00:14:46 look that up. So anyway, Jim Carrey plays Stanley Ipkis. He works at the Edge City Bank. Real pushover kind of guy. This is where Steve was talking. Jolie Fisher is here as a co-worker who I guess the idea
Starting point is 00:15:02 was like Jim Carrey's character told her like, oh, I can get these concert tickets. We'll go to the concert. And then she just like totally uses him here and is like oh, well, my friend is coming from out of town and I can't do anything without her. Can you get a third ticket knowing that it's sold out kind of a thing? There are tickets to the band that he goes to see as the mask at the Copa Bongo.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Why is it that in Edge City, the only place for nightlife is the Coco Bongo? Well, yeah, they say it's the new nightclub, but it's the only nightclub. It's not like the old nightclub burned down all hail the new nightclub. I guess because it's got like the swing music that's so hot right now. Is this movie partially responsible for bringing that about in 1996 to 1998 and a half? I believe so, Senator.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I think it just rode the wave a little bit. Like it saw it going on. Swingers is the same year, right? No, it's 96 actually. Oh, really? John Favro saw the mask went apeshit over it and wrote a script. I would like to see the mask like failed
Starting point is 00:16:10 to leave a voice. voicemail and it's like 35 minutes long or whatever happens in that movie. Hello, baby. Oh, crap. You know, I've done that so many times. Every time I got to, you know, I got to get something new. Is that movie worth a damn these days? I have not gone back to that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I haven't seen it since like high school. I like the den. I feel like I rewatched it maybe five years ago and I thought it was fine. I don't know if you need to go back to it, but. that's that's that checks about what I was thinking I've been pretty indifferent about it what we get was from the Jolie Fisher scene
Starting point is 00:16:50 is your classic Stanley Ipkis is a nice guy and these ladies are just walking all over him my gosh I mean I guess in this instance that is literally what happens to but that he's he's cheered up instantly by his buddy Charlie played by the late Richard Jenny of course
Starting point is 00:17:10 and this is a weird line where he's like, oh, Stan, don't worry about, you know, those concert tickets or whatever. I'm going to take you on a love safari tonight. We talked about this, Charlie. I'm good. I hope you enjoy yourself. Like, if you guys were ever like, hey, Andrew, and obviously not in our married lives,
Starting point is 00:17:34 but back in the day you were like, dude, we're going out on a love safari. I'd be like, you know what? I'm going to stay home with. some standard definition DVDs. You know what, Charlie, I'm not going to wear your homemade leopard print underwear. We've talked about this many
Starting point is 00:17:48 times. Not doing it. What is a love safari? Is that when the love boat, like shipwrecks? I think he's telling him, like, we're going to go out like hunting for some strange game hunting kind of. Yeah, Stanley, bring your gun.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Make sure to bring your gun on this Love Safari tonight. But he's interrupted. by a 21-year-old Cameron Diaz. It is crazy how young she is in this movie. Really wild. Doesn't even really like, I mean, she looks like Cameron Diaz, but like
Starting point is 00:18:20 doesn't. It's very strange. No. I think she's great in this movie, by the way. She's younger than most of the cast of Nano 2 and O, by the way. Like, she should be playing, you know what I mean? Like, by movie rules, she should be playing somebody's high school age daughter. Right, right. Yeah, this is, she comes into the bank and, like, Richard Jenny is the first one to meet her, and she's
Starting point is 00:18:38 looking to open an account. and this is a creptacular move from this guy Charlie here takes off her coat and then she's like oh she goes over to like Jim Carrey to like sit down and open an account or whatever and Richard Jenny's character
Starting point is 00:18:53 smells her jacket like a real hard face in it with right in the middle of your workplace as if it was Heath Ledger to Jake Gyllenhaal man and I'm like this is not the time nor the place sir can we please just get on with this. Oh, Jenny totally
Starting point is 00:19:11 ledgered her jacket, dude. You ledgered her jacket. I mean, she's right there. This is a workplace problem, Richard, Jenny. It is a really long width. It's like he's reveling in it for a moment. It's totally nuts. Dude, if this guy got the mask,
Starting point is 00:19:27 forget about it. He tries to get the mask at the end. That is a hell on earth kind of a caligula situation. If Charlie gets the mask. Now the whole world is a love safari. So she's looking to like, open an account or whatever. She's being very flirtatious with Stanley Ipkiss.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And then, uh-oh, she's got a secret camera in her bag. So she's casing the joint for her boyfriend. Of course, we meet as Dorian. This is a problem with Dorian. Dorian is an evil motherfucker. But he has like an air table hockey thing in his office. And I'm like, that's double dragon shit. Don't be playing this.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I think he got to the office when he was like 23. and he's like, yeah, I'll put the air table over there. And now it's like six years later. And he's like, I'll outgrew it a little bit. But he's got his guards playing it while he's trying to make this fucking like big heist to deal with Reggie Kathy. It's kind of hilarious. There's a, there's a funny, like the way that they introduced that air hockey table is like,
Starting point is 00:20:30 uh, they're trying to watch the video or whatever. And it's like, guys, could you keep it down? And just cutting to two huge henchmen playing air hockey is. kind of a great gag. And Dorian, of course, is the actor Peter Green, who is Zed in Pulp Fiction. I think he's, is he the bad guy in Blue Streak? Possibly. Yes, that sounds right. The Martin Lawrence movie, I think he's... That sounds right. Yeah. He's very big in the usual suspects, a movie that doesn't exist anymore. It used to exist. Oh, yeah. What was his name? Redfeather bottom or something?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Redfoot, I believe. Yeah, there we go. He's the guy who... Does he flick the cigarette at Stephen Baldwin? Yes, he does. Yeah, he throws it at Stephen Baldwin, right? That's why I like him so much in that movie. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Stephen Baldwin hears that a lot these days. Yeah, that's a good call. It's kind of, I mean, he's in a different movie is kind of the thing. And like, I was looking at some of the IBB tribunes, like, oh, they want a Jack Nicholson for this. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Jack Nicholson. Oh, my, let's all be realistic here. I mean, the funny thing is, Dorian's character is kind of like Jack Nicholson's character in the Burton Batman just without turning into the Joker, you know, I mean, because he is a guy who's like,
Starting point is 00:21:48 you know, the head guy, you know, the number one guy for this Nico, you know, Greek mobster guy or whatever, and he wants to like overtake him much the same way that Nicholson wants to off Jack Palance in that movie. But the entirety of their criminal enterprise seems to be just running this mostly legitimate club.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't understand that, yeah. There's no drugs anywhere. There's not like shipping guns out. They're just fucking running the club. But in like in line with Bright Gotham, their scheme is to rob a bank and then I guess
Starting point is 00:22:24 launder the money through the club. Maybe. Like bank robbers? That's what the, that's your whole crime enterprise. This is 1994, 1930. Because he's like, hey, Reggie Kathy, once we rob this bank, we'll have more money than Nico and we'll run Nico out of town kind of a thing. It's like, run bank robbery, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:46 I work for Nico Dillinger. Peter Green isn't intense in the role. But at the same time, I think this is a good introduction because this is, you know, a children's film and you have to introduce children to the very real threat of mafioso type of murders. Sure. Gangling slings. Yeah, exactly. It's laying the groundwork for, when you get older, you're going to run into numerous Dorians. Don't worry about it. The number one thing I got to have to worry about is bank robberies. I mean, the only thing I would sort of push back on is that I don't believe this is a movie for kids.
Starting point is 00:23:20 This is a, I think, kind of a rather adult PG-13. It's just that he's playing a Looney Tune half the time, so it kind of covers it up. That's what I mean by a mess. It's like, that's the thing is the movie doesn't know that. some scenes are way kitty and other scenes are like oh that's a used condom in his pocket yeah there's a condom joke i do think it's kind of kitty too and i think the idea of doing the bank robbery is like he's not doing he's not selling drugs it's not getting too real for that uh younger audience but i think that's a problem with carrie's movies in general is that like they are all like ace matura is also for kids and definitely not for kids that's at the same time why are you saying that is you think Ace Ventura is for kids because it's
Starting point is 00:24:05 like a goofy comedy. Yeah. And he's a cartoon. Well, that, I mean, you can have goofy adult comedy. But also, Jim Carrey is the biggest comedy star in the world. And, like, you're going to take your kids to the new Jim Carrey movie. Well, I mean, I think that that's the difference. I think that... But you weren't
Starting point is 00:24:21 doing that with Ace Ventura. I think probably they were. I don't know. Who? Who? The fucking... When that movie came out in theaters, though, nobody knew what the fuck that was. Nobody knew who he was. But I think to Chris's point, kids loved it. Whether or not it was for kids or not, it became for kids because kids loved it.
Starting point is 00:24:44 That's absolutely fine. That's fucking silly. He's got a silly voice. He's talking very cute. Therefore, it's good for kids. But then the movie itself is somewhere in between. Right. But what I'm saying is it's fine that kids liked that first Ace Ventura movie, but I do not believe they made that movie thinking it was four kids and kids were going to go see it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I'm not sure about that. I'm not convinced about that. I mean, kids love Dan Marino. That's say that much. Yes. And all like the one-liners that like became poppy. Like they weren't, none of them were adult oriented. I mean, speaking from my own experience, I didn't see Ace Ventura in theaters.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I definitely saw dumb and dumber in theaters. I didn't see this in theaters. But this and Ace Ventura I saw on, on VHS or HBO. I saw, I grew up with Jim Carrey, I guess what I'm. So did I. So it's. in an extent it's it's four kids but the idea of what we allow children
Starting point is 00:25:37 to see now is totally different well yeah it's very true and also I also love the idea Eric that you didn't see this movie in theaters but you saw like Wings of Desire or whatever it was 1994 actually Eric was busy seeing Pulp Fiction in theaters that's actually true yeah I saw
Starting point is 00:25:53 Pulp Fiction in theaters and I did see I saw Wings the Academy Award winning picture from 1930 because it's 1994 30 I mean he doesn't make like totally just like primarily for kids movie until Batman forever into liar liar
Starting point is 00:26:09 into Bruce Almighty. Yes. Those are super kids movies. Yes. Yeah. And that's the thing is that's what his appeal was was for kids. Whether or not that was the intent it was. And this movie kind of skirts that because yeah, he's like a cartoon but then also there's this other stuff but then also like any
Starting point is 00:26:25 graphic violence is totally turned down because somebody was like, oh kids are going to love this fucking movie. There's one particular scene where I'm surprised I got past that and didn't notice it. What? Come on, don't tease me. When he kills the, well, he doesn't kill
Starting point is 00:26:41 them somehow, the two auto mechanics by shoving tailpipes out of their assholes. Dude, first time, first time I noticed what was going on that. And you hear the fucking EMT be like, get me a proctologist, the best in the world. They're like, whatever that line is.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And then I was like, what? And then I looked and I was like, oh, he shoved the fucking fuel or the, yeah, the exhaust lines up their assholes. On both of them. Under different circumstances, that's a hellraiser death. That's exactly dude. That is a delicious
Starting point is 00:27:13 sight to show you. The mask could totally be a centa bite. A hundred percent. You know, just put them in like a black leather zootsuit suit. Thunderball! Come and get me! Somebody stop me. I'm ripping your nipples off.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Somebody stop me from doing this. Look at this. I turned into the and I'm wearing your skin as a jacket. Somebody stop me. That's got a hurt. Get it. Oh, edge city. I like the sound of this.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Almost coming, but never coming for an eternity. You know, you guys are making me think here that, you know, we pretty great, his pinhead, but with more of a sense of humor. Yeah. Because he's kind of making some jokes in those movies, but if he was overtly hilarious, I think,
Starting point is 00:28:03 that's a better franchise the dude is a bore i just rewatched hellraiser 2 and it's just oh yeah oh were you like me uh watching that with joe bob yeah i was yeah that movie is a fucking snooze man and then you're like you're you're you get tricked by hellraiser 2 hellbound because you're like oh cool the movie's over with and then it's like wait a minute doesn't hellbound imply that we're going to hell up there's 25 minutes of the movie left that's just so hard but it's like yeah there's so much much with that doctor and blah. I wish they went to hell in like the first 20 minutes and stayed there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Because that part of that movie is awesome. But when I was watching it on last drive-in, I was like, God damn, this movie sucks. The people that made that movie could go to hell. Go to hell. Go to hell. Guess my butt. Go to hell. He does go to his mechanic and his car. Like, you know, it's your classic. He's just a
Starting point is 00:28:52 hapless loser. Everyone's taking advantage of this guy. His mechanic is like, oh, your car isn't ready. But it's just an oil chain. It's like, oh, you're going to need a new transmission yada yada they give them the loner which is this like crap ass car which is fun to look at there is some great jokes in here like i just really like this movie's script it's fun you know it's like oh no uh sign this but there's no price there will be yeah oh that's a good line also that's when you tell that guy uh don't do anything get it off the rack right
Starting point is 00:29:23 now yeah and go fuck yourself good day i mean it's the most played out gig but when they when he says get The loner. The loner? The loner. Yeah. I loved that. The fat guy is from Goodfellas. The guy's like, Johnny, I'm shari. I'm shari. I'm shari. Johnny Rose Beef, yeah. Yes, Johnny Rose Beef. That's right. Oh, that guy, the fatter mechanic is Johnny Rose Beef. Yeah, where he comes in with the, because Carbone comes in with something and he comes, he's the one that comes in with the new wife in the car. I'm shari. Johnny, I'm sorry. Oh, yes. Oh, you're totally right. It's in my muddish name. It's fine. he's also not surprisingly in Green Book as like Fat Dom or something like that Yeah Oh right he's like hanging out at the house Yeah he's one of those guys
Starting point is 00:30:07 I was trying to see if the other guy Was in anything because he kind of looks familiar And he's just a dude that like Steadily works playing a character One time on television shows Yep that sounds about right It's kind of really it so that's cool So yeah they they screw him over also
Starting point is 00:30:22 So he's got to take this fucking like little lemon to the nightclub, which it's like, dude, park down the street, man. Just park down the street. It's a city. No one's going to break your balls for walking up to the club. Park down the street. It's real like mom's driving you school rules.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah, exactly. And Richard Jenny has picked up to you sex workers that they're going to go to the club with. That's got to be the situation. Yeah, you've paid top dollar. Well, he's wearing a cheetah skin jacket. You wear a cheetah skin jacket. you're paying for sex.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, exactly. And again, nothing wrong with it, but that's just sort of the vibe you give off. But that jacket means that there is not sex being volunteered to you pro bono. I think they're going by Shop Girl for the night. Considering it's 1930s, 1990s. 1930s, 1990s. So, yeah, there's the thing of like Richard Jenny pays off the bouncer. He and the two ladies get into the club and Stanley Ipkiss get screwed over it's because it's kind of funny it's it's one of the only times you see him
Starting point is 00:31:28 not being the mask like try to be a little arrogant like a little cocky because he turns around to everybody waiting on the line and does like a see you guys inside and like as he's bragging the dude closes the velvet rope well that's the thing with stanley ipkis anything he does he immediately has to eat shit for it yeah which is you know it's a kind of character like i think if this movie was made in like let's say like the early 70s or like the late 60s you could have Jack Lemon playing Stanley I guess I would like a lot less physical humor in that one
Starting point is 00:32:04 yeah I do love the statement from the director that I think you can see on the Tribune trivia where I guess he said the production was saved so much money just due to the fact that Jim Carrey is such an amazing physical comedian that like he was able to bend his body in so many crazy ways that it cut down on animation costs I buy that. I mean, there's nothing here without him, really. You know what I mean? I think Cameron Diaz is a bright spot. Peter Green. You know, and production design is great, but like it's not, it doesn't, this movie doesn't work unless he's anywhere near it. It's very true. I mean, the physical comedy is amazing. And I guess maybe the 90s were the second renaissance of that with like Tommy Boy and stuff. But we really haven't seen anything like it in a while, have we? Long time. Of like hardcore physical comedy like that. I, you know, point me in the direction, folks, because I don't know where that's at these. days. I would love to check it out. Yeah. So he, you know, gets tossed back out in the street. There's, of course, a gag where a car is going to drive by and soak him. And as he's soaking wet with, you know, mud water or whatever, Cameron Diaz comes up to the club. I do love the thing of the guy being like, like the valet is like, oh, sir, here's your car. And it's the piece of shit. And he's like, oh, that's not my car. And the guy's just like, well, the tickets match. Okay, I'll take it, but I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And this is when Cameron Diaz comes out of her car dressed like Beetlejuice, like sexy Beetlejuice. Yep, totally. Chelsea said that we were watching it. She's like, she looks like she's about to pick up a shifted footlock. But it is, it's so, it's so a Beetlejuice costume right here. It's nuts. She kind of is dressed ridiculously in this movie almost throughout.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yes. Well, because you're going to, what do you call it there? Not a showgirl, but a. Yeah. A mall? Kind of sort of, yeah. A singer. A singer at a nightclub is what I mean.
Starting point is 00:33:58 But yeah, yeah. So she wears big crazy outfits, but they're really big and they're really crazy. It's wild. So they like kind of everything and then he's like, all right, well, I'll take my car and humiliate myself elsewhere. And the car, I think this is the universe telling this guy to fucking end it all right here because the car breaks down like right on a bridge, there's nobody around like, is your Christmas angel going to come down for you Stanley
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't know man why don't you give it a shot but yeah he sees and you know he's a good guy he sees a bunch of crap floating in the river and he assumes it's a body and this is how he comes upon the mask I want to say and you know I don't know if you guys noticed this and you know no need to go back to the videotape but I could have sworn when you're seeing
Starting point is 00:34:45 when you're supposed to see what Stanley is seeing right here like in the shooting down into the river did they actually have a person there and then also like with some stuff around it and then when he gets down there it's actually just a bunch of garbage. This is said just like a person who would jump in this water.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I did not notice but when he does find the mask it is like there's kind of like a wire barrel there like they're trying to make it look like a humanoid. Stop what you're doing pedophile. I'm going to get that. Don't stop what you're doing. Yes it is I
Starting point is 00:35:19 Elon Musk's savior of all lost people's and accuser of pedophilia. Thank you, Andrew. I had no idea what was happening. It took me a second, too, and then I was like, all right, we got to say who that guy is. Yeah, word to the Y. Start that impression with,
Starting point is 00:35:33 I'm Elon Musk. That would say, that's, you know, new rule for the rest of the show. Every impression, we will start with who we are. He sounds kind of like Tom 6. Oh, yeah. It's kind of the same voice there. I, Elon Musk, the sorrow of Mordavia,
Starting point is 00:35:55 the scourge of Carpathia. The ruiner of Grimesh's life. Sitting on a throne of blood and also a bunch of old hard drives because I'm a computer nerd as well. I might be into Bitcoin too. Who knows? He finds the mask and then he goes home and his landlady starts giving him shit. I mean, this is why, and I'm so
Starting point is 00:36:21 glad that I do not have a landlord in the unit. Oh, what a dream. In the unit. You mean in the building. In the building, yeah. Well, not the unit. Dude, I would say you were getting an incredibly raw deal there, Steve. In the building, yeah. You want to have... On premises. If you have to have, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:37 if you have to live in a building that is like owned by a family, like, versus, like, my building is just a management company, you know, there's nobody here telling me to keep it down. But yeah, that, like, they're fucking living with you. Oof, no thanks. Hey, you can sleep in my kitchen if you like. Hey, Chris, remember Gus?
Starting point is 00:36:58 I do remember Gus and I remember Harry and it was nightmares both times. Yeah, we're reminiscing, by the way, folks at home about our Astoria Queen's landlords. Gus lived in the building, but Harry didn't live in that other building. He might as well have. He was there all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, that's awful. It's funny because Harry, was Harry's childhood home and when I signed my lease on my new place the landlord was just like oh you know
Starting point is 00:37:24 this is my childhood home I was like no fuck dude I don't need to know that you know if you're like a property manager and that's your situation that's cool you know what that's not going to do and I feel like they throw this out there
Starting point is 00:37:37 for this reason Steve and it's not going to be effective it's like oh if I tell these new tenants that I grew up in this house maybe they'll take that much more care in it maybe they'll be that much more precious with the, you know, the floor or something like that. That's not happening, buddy. No, it just creeps me out, man. Better not save your fucking wonder years garbage memories for somebody else. Better not sell that to me. I'm going to wreck it if you tell me shit like that.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah, totally, dude. Chris Kevin will shit on your childhood. Those hardwood floors. Was this your, uh, was this your bedroom where you jerked off for the first time? Cool. Awesome. 60 year old man. It's really nice that I now know that. That is the other part of it. Is it not? It's like, oh, yeah, your first sexual experience? Oh, right in that closet, huh? Great. Oh, and the lingerie catalog is still here. Great. Fantastic. Oh, good. Like, he wasn't the best landlord, but my best landlord was a guy named Vagelis, which it's just like, you...
Starting point is 00:38:30 What? You had a landlord named Vagasil? Vagelis. It sounded like that synth band that did some tracks for Blade Runner. Doug about the Scourge of Moldavia. Yeah. He was an older Greek gentleman. He was very nice. He was cool with you, though. Yeah, his brother was a piece of shit. His brother, when I was moving out of the place, his brother, like, we were, like, tossing a bunch of shit out, you know, like you do.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Was his name a Cochalus? His name was George, so I don't know what the disconnect there was. But it was his brother, and they did look alike, and they both lived in the building. So it was kind of a constant battle. But George gave, like, he gave my movers the bags of garbage I was throwing out. And I didn't find out until I was out of the city moving in. I'm like, why do I have the garbage I was throwing out in Queens? Are you 100% sure it wasn't Georgilus?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Maybe he's Americanized it. This landlady, though, speaking of the last drive-in, Eric, did anybody recognize who this lady is? Oh, I did not. I didn't even look it up. She is the fucking creepy-ass nurse in Exorcist 3. Oh, wow. There's a great scene where George C. Scott's trying to interrogate this lady,
Starting point is 00:39:43 and he's, like, screaming at her. It's fucking awesome. It's a weird movie. Oh, really? Oh, it's so fucking... It is balls to the walls. Bad shit crazy, Steve, but it's a good time. A weird one. Definite recommends. Speaking of weird ones, by the way,
Starting point is 00:39:57 Stan Ipkis, after the night that he's had, after he finds the masks and deals with this landlady, goes into his house, and you know what you got to do right when you walk into the door at 2.30 in the morning? You better put on a VHS tape of old cartoons. That's the thing. It's one thing if you're just like, oh, God, I'm fucking beat. Let me just pop on Cartoon Network.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Oh, awesome. every cartoons ha ha let me just chill out but like no time to get my tape out time to get out the tape he's got a bunch of tapes there's a lot of tapes there's a lot of tapes here and i think you see there's another thing somewhere earlier in the movie where he's got like a luneitunes notebook or something like that he's got above his bed pictures of porky pig and daffy duck and i'm like you're going to take jolly fisher home and fuck her in front of porky pig and daffy duck she's going to leave. That's some sick shit, man. That's some real sick shit you just did. I do actually wonder, because like the difference between me and Stanley, I like old
Starting point is 00:40:54 cartoons and things for children, for sure, all the way to my present life. But I never had enough money to live alone and never had enough money to like populate an apartment with things that I like. And Lord knows what that nightmare would look like. I don't should move to Edge City. Dude, if I lived alone, I would, I would be the fucking mayor of Edge City. I'll tell you, you and me are in the same boat with that. Like, similarly, I always either had a roommate or living with Chelsea as an adult, you know, so I never branched out on my own like that. And I can tell you right now, it would have been a disaster because it wouldn't be as juvenile as like Uncle Joey's room on Full House. Like the loft space in big when Tom Hanks. Yeah, I have in
Starting point is 00:41:35 video games. Exactly. Trampolines. Because it's the money thing that I thankfully didn't have. because you remember my apartment we lived together it was Spartan and weird it did my my room didn't have any things on the wall all it did all it had was like a framed photo of Tom Waits it was kind of like is there a rifle under that guy I
Starting point is 00:41:54 true true story I never saw the actual floor of that fucking room of yours never not once don't covered in shit covered in shit you mean clothes strewn about sometimes Not feces.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He wasn't slinging shit on the wall like an ape. No. Okay, yeah, I'll clear that up. Yeah, by the way, Chris Cabin' throwing stones left and right over here. I've seen how you live, buddy. Oh, yeah, that's true. Oh, you know. Chris Cabin Glasshouse is my friend.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah, exactly. I got some fucking stories to tell, but I will not. Burn him. Burn him. Ben Stein's in this movie. Yeah, we see, he's on like some talk show or something. like that's how his character's introduced and it's like the masks we wear
Starting point is 00:42:43 psychology mumbo jumbo thing I wrote a book about how we're all wearing masks and this is the limit of Benstein acting because Ben and Stein can only do the Bueller voice like in this movie he's trying to like be a little peppier and it just
Starting point is 00:42:59 doesn't work. God I hate him I just hate him so much I hated him even when I enjoyed watching other people win his money But so he fucking puts the mask on And I timed it, by the way Ben Stein puts the mask on Yep, yep
Starting point is 00:43:16 Now I can write speeches for Richard Nixon In record time Oh, somebody stop me Voodoo economics I can help bomb Cambodia In record time Oh man, don't give Kissinger the fucking mask somebody could stop me at any moment
Starting point is 00:43:39 but you won't he actually goes up and eats Cambodia as the mask those children's bodies are smoking spicy meatball napalm so no Stanley Ipkis puts on the mask
Starting point is 00:44:00 and I timed it we have the mask on screen in under 20 minutes which is what you want. That means he's in mask costume in the first reel of your film. Yep. And God bless it. This movie I will say is a brisk like 100 minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It's well-paced. The only part that seems to drag for me is towards the end because I'm just like, all right, all right. Well, yeah, the third act where it's like, am I in prison? Am I not in prison? Oh, what did Cameron Diaz really think about me? Right, right, right. So the first sort of
Starting point is 00:44:31 gag here, he's sort of like, well, he fucking totally destroys this land. landlord's uh sense of mental stability here he's like he this is where he's got the uh the mallet and he's smashing the alarm clock in the hallway well the first thing he says when he when he does turn around and reveals himself as the mask is smoking which you know i don't know it's pretty good where's that coming from where's that coming from yeah it's what's smoking i mean it's just he's so he's very hot got it okay he's very i think he's gonna go out he's gonna go try to buy some math Steve.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Oh, God. It would have been better if you heard Stanley Ipkiss, like, in some capacity, used smoking, like, while hanging out with Richard Jenny. Like, Richard Jenny says, like, oh, we got, you know, I got us two tickets to my sex cruise or whatever the last sex safari, love safari, there it is. And then you have, like, Stanley Ipkis go, like, wow, smoking, you got these tickets. Yeah, that might, that would be something. Or, like, Richard Jenny invites him out.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Like, no, no, come out. Have a cigarette with me. And then the young boss, which is a semi-adversary at the bank, maybe like shoves him and he's like, no smoking. Yeah, yeah, anything like that just because like, where is the mask pulling these lines? Also, where is the mask getting the clothing change here? Well, I guess it's, well, the clothing change is just, it's whatever you wanted to be. And I guess it's informed by the tech savory cartoons. Now, I saw a bunch of those growing up, but I don't remember how often they used the term smoking, but it might have been in there.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I don't know. I just remember the wolf howling at women. That was, that's my tech saver experience. Richard Jenny is getting him like to, we should go to a party and he says, P-A-R-T-Y, because I got a. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yes, exactly. You know, and okay, yes, the clothing is magic fine, but the witty one-liners, I don't know. Especially if this, if the whole thing as is explained to us in this movie is like, it brings out your innermost desires, your innermost personality, whatever. like it's cocaine is what it is he's no longer wearing the mask he wore to go to the office the mask that he thought he needed to
Starting point is 00:46:41 wear around women and whatever else now it's just it's uncontrolled id you're totally right dude and you're talking about wearing masks of the office again makes me thankful you no longer working enough I mean I honestly don't know how you don't I mean this the cartoons
Starting point is 00:46:57 always talk in one liner so it makes sense that like that's what since he is a living cartoon is obsessed with cartoons, as we've seen. Like, he puts him above his fuck bed and everything. But, like, I believe that. I see that as part of the whole thing. Also, if there's one sure thing that would happen if you turned,
Starting point is 00:47:17 if you, any of you turned into the mask, all of you have animals in your home, your dog or cat would have a fucking heart attack. Full on, the heart would explode. Dude, my dog fucking coweres when there's a fly in the room. Exactly. Like, fucking actual storm cloud. come into your house, lightning, you turn into a Tasmanian devil spin around and now have an
Starting point is 00:47:39 enormous fucking head. That dog is dead. D-E-E-A-D-D-D. I can't use a toaster of it in my house because my dog gets scared of the smell of smoke. Exactly. Well, stop burning your toast then. What's the matter with you? It has not to do with the burnt toast. It's just the smell of burning. So he won't be around the grill? No. Well, the grill is fine. It's the smell specifically of that because we were in a fire together. Oh, right, I forgot about that. Well, that makes sense. My dog, my dog was never attacked
Starting point is 00:48:10 by a pack of flies. That makes sense that you were in the fire together, and for a second, I thought it was your dog was afraid it was having a stroke. It's like, oh, I smell toast. He's done all the reading. He's very up to all the notifiers.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Excellent. He knows all the warning signs. Yeah. So his first, like, bit of crime fighting as it is, I guess, as he goes out, and there's all these like street tuffs that are bothering him. And this is where he's pretending to be the carnival barker doing balloon animals and we get the condom joke. Well, this is funny because
Starting point is 00:48:41 there is a deleted scene, I don't know where it is, but where they mug him first. They mug Stanley Ipkis. Oh, really? Earlier in the film. And it makes sense because they're very specific like you should have seen them before kind of a thing. That's true.
Starting point is 00:48:57 When you say they, you're talking about Pantera, right? who has romaned the street like tough enough people fat danzig over here well he gives one of them an atomic wedgy which is fun that's fat danzig but I do like the whole like
Starting point is 00:49:12 he turns into like a carnival barker doing the the balloon animals one of the great thing is like he does a little well you know I'll make something for you son he keeps on calling them son and he makes a little little poodle and he blows it up and says dog was rabbit had to put it down
Starting point is 00:49:29 I was laughing I love the detail of I was laughing too I love the detail of they're all like enchanted by him because they're all like looking at the balloon animals
Starting point is 00:49:40 in all like children would like wow look it's kind of funny but why would anyone try to attack him after you see this fucking creature that's that's I mean I guess that's the
Starting point is 00:49:51 agreement that like the production made for this movie is like whenever the mask is in public and someone sees him for the first time no one shits their pants in terror. Yes. Everybody's
Starting point is 00:50:05 like, look at that guy as if it's a real person. You just said it in Gotham itself. But I think there's a bit of actual like quote on like with capital M magic that the mask gives to like exudes from his body wherein people like
Starting point is 00:50:20 kind of fall into it. You know what I mean? Like later on the Cuban peat bit it's like he's doing something to these. He's enchanting these people. I guess with the Cuban Pete bit, but there is a fucking, there's a glaring error with that whole thing because it's like, if that's happening to everybody around them, like, why
Starting point is 00:50:36 is Peter Riegert and the other guy like totally fine with it? You know, it's not affecting them. Oh, if Peter Green's guy still want to kill him like all the time. I just I guess I just really wanted to see dancing Peter Riegert in that scene if I'm going to be totally honest. Maybe it's like the Jedi mind
Starting point is 00:50:52 trick. You've got to have a weak enough mind. The mask is just getting things over on stupid. Yeah, like Bib Fortuna, but not Jabba the Hut. Right. I do remember that the Fat Danzig is the third level boss in the
Starting point is 00:51:08 video game, the Super NES game. Wow. There's a video game. There's a video game and this guy, I'm pretty sure it's this guy, or it's just some fat gangster and he's like burping and shooting at you at the same time. Oh, Lord. I think we rented it and I just did not play that thing because I was like, this fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:51:26 It's really bad. So many of those time games were terrible, man. I will never forget playing. There was an S&ES Beavis and Budhead game and it was a real dumb game and it was like I just remember one of the levels was you were like running through the school
Starting point is 00:51:43 and like something crazy had happened or whatever but like you couldn't get past it it was one of those games that like I'm confident they just built it only up to a point that you could never beat and then just suckered kids in Dubai it's like that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game where you go under
Starting point is 00:51:58 water. Oh, God, that first one? Oh, man. The blood pressure will rise when you play that. I feel like I'm starting to sweat just thinking about it. You're not wrong, dude. A lot of frustrated afternoons trying to play that. What's that? Is that Doritos Nacho cheese
Starting point is 00:52:16 in my mouth? The taste, I haven't eaten those in years. Yeah, some of this. I've been doing a lot of SNES and NES, like, classic gaming on Switch. And, boy, some of that shit takes you right back I gotta say it does
Starting point is 00:52:32 yeah so he you know he dispatches these people then this is when he's with the Tommy gun yes balloon Tommy gun but they get away so he doesn't kill them and see this is you guys are right especially from like what I've been
Starting point is 00:52:46 told I didn't get a chance to look on comicsology for any issues or anything but what I've been explained this comic was was sort of grittier and darker like that and I would love to see these pigs fucking chess explodes right here. This does borrow heavily from one
Starting point is 00:53:02 issue because the auto mechanics deaths are gruesome as hell in the comments. Oh really? He's really fucking shoving the shit in with those poles. One of them, I think the fat one gets like a bunch of screwdrivers and like crowbars in his head. I'll take that over a fucking muffler up my ass. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:20 That is a hellraiser move though right there. Yeah. You're totally right. The mask is pinhead. Yeah. I mean, it's a deep ancient evil, there's bound to be similarities. That's true. This is one of the, also when he's doing the Carnival Barker thing, we get one of the most adult
Starting point is 00:53:36 jokes, which is him taking a wet condom out of his pants and fling it in the air. I guess the line wrong pocket was a Jim Carrey improv, which I appreciate. But also like, it's, I mean, that's not where you put used condoms, dude. That's, that's
Starting point is 00:53:52 not, not in my experience. Maybe he, Huck him on the street. No, I'm not fucking in the street like a dog. Maybe he's fucking in the street like a dog And he's put it in his pocket Waiting until he sees a, you know, a receptacle. You know, this reminds me of just the other day
Starting point is 00:54:09 As a matter of fact, I was strolling through my beautiful neighborhood Here in New York City You know, hot summer morning walking the dog and whatnot And it was like a Sunday. So, you know, after the Saturday night weekend shenanigans And I looked down And on the sidewalk just cook cooking in the morning sun are two condoms.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Whoa. One fucking ketchup red and the other one mustard yellow. And I was like, what are we doing everybody? That's a low count for a Sunday. I just thought it was kind of funny that it was two condoms. I mean, they were seriously like six inches apart. So I don't know if one was like, oh, it's defective. Let me try the other one.
Starting point is 00:54:49 By the way, I am fucking in the street. I think for penises, that counts as social distancing six inches apart. And your penis was wearing a mask, which is good. Oh, yeah, you definitely got a mask up. So, yeah, so the mechanics are assaulted here. We don't see what happens until the aftermath scene, and this is where we're introduced to the great Peter Riegerd as Lieutenant Callaway. And then there's other guy who's a very funny part of this movie.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I think you mean Doyle. What were you going to say about Doyle, Steve? No, that's it just Doyle. Oh, I see. Yes, Peter Regert yelling Doyle like that throughout the movie. I love the repartee between the two of them. I think it's fucking hilarious. And like, as far as like, you know, you can't, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:39 obviously Jim Carrey is the funniest part of this movie. But like, you can't compare that to anything else. So like right below that is the two of them being the funniest non-Jim Carrey part of this movie. Well, that's the other thing is like, Riegert is gets it. It's like, okay. And he's like doing, and he is like, you know, he's being funny, but he's not trying to upstage carry in terms of like being loud
Starting point is 00:56:00 and funny. He's like, oh, just be a sarcastic, whatever. I just kind of feel, and you got Richard Jenny floating around. I think you need more comedic tropes in terms and also Cameron Diaz, not in this movie, but isn't a terrific comedic actress. You kind of want like a comedic villain, I think. You just need somebody with a little more pep in his step. I think you're
Starting point is 00:56:18 totally right. And as much as, you know, we've said repeatedly on this show that Peter Green is a great actor, which he totally is. It's just like, why is this dude so dark and dirty and that like just it's got to be a cartoon character. Exactly. Just like everything else to sort of balance
Starting point is 00:56:34 that out. It should be like Bobcat Goldthwaite is the bad guy. Fuck if Bobcat was in this movie is the bad guy, that would be awesome. Either as Dorian or Nico. Like you have to actually you have to both because they're both too serious for it. Nico is also way too serious. That's the other problem Chris because the guy who plays
Starting point is 00:56:50 Nico who's like the head of the crime syndicate is this actor Arrestes Matasena who is just this Cuban actor, he's still around, you know, pops up and stuff. He was, he was accredited as Spanish dignitary in previous episode, Wild Wild West, by the way. Oh, nice. Oh, dear. But it's just such a nothing character.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It's not built up in any way, you know, and at least in, like, so if you're making the Batman comparison, like, you remember Jack Palance in that movie. Yes. Jack Palance is the right level of cartoonishly villainous in the movie. You're right. Because like imagine Jack Palance and trying to hit a golf golf ball off of this dude's face.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It would have been way more interesting than what we do get because it is trying to play it a little too real. You're right. Yeah, he does grab his fuck Peter Green and puts a fucking tea in his mouth that tries to hit golf balls off of him. And you know, the thing that's crazy is
Starting point is 00:57:46 just speaking of Mr. Palance, by the way, this movie comes out in 1994. You know what else comes out in 1994? A total stay tuned city sleigh stickers to the legend of Curley's gold. That's what Jack Palance was doing the year this movie came out, man. Well, you've got this guy named Nico. I need him to be eating like a feda and tomato salad, like something a little bit like there's no personality here. Like give me something here. And actually call him Nico the Greek by the way. Yes, that would
Starting point is 00:58:16 be nice. Give him something. So regert, uh, regert such as he is, Lieutenant Calloway goes, uh, he's taken the case right here also with the landlady is the idea this is actually so that you don't get the aftermath of mechanics right away I'm reading my notes out of order Riegert goes to the building where Ipicus lives and he's assigned to the disturbance that happened and this
Starting point is 00:58:41 is Peter Riegert telling Jim Carrey those pajamas are impossible but the crime outside actually happens. It's pretty good it's such a good line. Pretty good slam and you know Jim Carrey realized says, oh, no, I was the mask or something.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So he has to like, he's trying not to be the mask. He goes back to work. He yells at his, this is what he yells at his boss? No, the boss yells at him. Like, you're 40 minutes late. It gets, well, right, right, right. That's the same as stealing. I mean, after what it just happened to me, I'm not going into work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I'm picking a sick day. It's a sick day, I think. Yeah. No, you've got to keep up appearances. What's the mask hangover like? Oh, man. It apparently is something because every time he wakes up, the next morning. He for a few
Starting point is 00:59:27 minutes doesn't remember what the hell he was doing the night before. He's always rubbing his forehead as if he's hung over. I think you're right, Steve. It's a real banger of a hangover every time you do this. I need him drinking like a ball jar full of water taking a pitch black shit eating greasy food.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Well that's, you know, I think you're right though and I was thinking about this too like the mask masks around like this is the mask here's like ooh somebody's hungry and then he goes to a diner and goes fucking ape shit. Dude, that would actually be great if after one of these crazy
Starting point is 00:59:59 adventures, he says, ooh, somebody's hungry, and it just cuts, and it's like the Nighthawks painting, and it's just the mask, quietly eating a bowl of soup and a counter all alone. I'd fucking love... That's a good joke. That's a good visual joke for the mask.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Somebody's lonely. Oh, for sure. It would be kind of great, but yeah, you're totally right. Like, because we never see the come down from those evening. we see him take off the mask various times later in the movie which is horrifying
Starting point is 01:00:30 but these times of like I'm out on the town and then I wake up the next morning like what happened you ate a fucking neutron bomb last night you don't think that's coming out the other end somehow towards the end of the movie he does and it's just like you're at best
Starting point is 01:00:46 you're you're shooting out like the metal from the alarm clock that was the timer it's going to be a mess you have to put the mask on to pass that low. That's a great point. You're totally right. Dude, you feel it coming on.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You're like, oh, oh, boy. Oh, but then, oh, it would be tragic, though, if the fucking sun was still up because the mask only works when night has fallen. So he's like,
Starting point is 01:01:10 he's trying to sweat out the clock just like, oh, man, I got to wait till sun goes down for this one. Stanley Hips is popping, Emodium AD. I feel like the mask shits out the big bullets from Mario. Oh, my God,
Starting point is 01:01:24 the bullet fills. um he goes to work uh this is when amy asbeck really makes her appearance she was at the crime scene where the with the the auto mechanics and then she like is on the case she's like oh your car was there you're stanley ipkis and we we come to find out that he wrote some impassioned screed called let nice guys finish last which is very terrifying to me oh right oh yeah because amy asbeck's character is peggy brant and she writes a dear peggy advice column. She has a great line here because he's like, oh, you're
Starting point is 01:01:59 Dear Peggy, what are you doing? Like, you know, doing this crime story and she goes, dear Peggy pays dick, which was great. There is also a, one of the harder laughs I had at just a regularly delivered Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey line is when he goes in and he goes into the work the next morning and Richard
Starting point is 01:02:18 Jenny's like, oh, Stan, what happened to you last night? Me and the girls were, you know, looking all over the club or whatever it was. And he goes, did you happen to look outside in the gutter? It's just that Jim Carrey delivery man that just totally slayed me this time around. But I just feel like anyone who lives by the creed or uses the expression, nice guys finish last,
Starting point is 01:02:41 is somebody you want to steer clear of. It's just all I want to say. Well, because it's like an in-cell thing, right? Yes, exactly. Yeah, big time. This is, you know, you've got a single picture of Tom weights on your wall. You know what, guys.
Starting point is 01:02:59 You just, Steve, were you waiting for the campus poster guy to come around to the apartment? Sell you some movie posters? Steve, tell me, yes or no? Was there a figurine in that bedroom? Maybe one or two. There's nothing wrong with it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 There's nothing wrong with it. You know what? There's also nothing wrong with drinking diet Pepsi out of a Chinese wanton container full of soup. Just like some people, I might know. That's me. That was me. That was what I did. That is not good.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It was delicious. Chris, that sucks. No ice either. That was just warm diet Coke that tastes like soup. And did an older boy bet you to do this? No, no, no. This is all my brainchild. An older boy. So this is where we mentioned it briefly already, but this is where Dorian has to go to Nico.
Starting point is 01:03:54 to, I guess, you know, explain himself about what went down because these, I love these two scumbag bodyguards that come in right here that like take Nico in, or take Dorian in to see him. Yeah. The mullets on these two dudes, it is spectacular. They look wet too. They're like a wet mullet.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I think there's some like gel or like some moose in their hair. But what should recall it? Dorian's number two is the dude with the shaved head but it's got a big ponytail anyway. Yes, that dude's awesome. That guy's been in a bunch of stuff. With that haircut. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Cliffhanger is the big one with him. Oh, is he in Cliffhanger? Does he have this haircut though? He's one of the John Lithgow gang, I think. Oh, love it. Oh, I love it. But yeah, this is, I've always been freaked out by this, you know, putting the golf tea in his mouth thing.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And honestly, I don't golf, but I've been to, like, driving ranges before. Any time I'm setting up, like, at a driving range even well like put putt you don't use a tea i think about this thing from this movie an awful lot of times really yeah because it was so like viscerally like oh my god this guy could get hit in the face full swing with a golf club like that's some fucking serious goodfellas type stuff you know listen dory and you're screwing up our stuff deal uh all of our stuff is screwed up because of the club all the crimes that we need to get to you know what dude you're fired from crime that's it
Starting point is 01:05:26 you're fired from crime and he's he's given him a week to nico gives dorian a week to get out of town this is why the italian mafia has it right if someone's fucking up you just kill them and you'll pretend that you're their friend you don't give anybody a heads up get out of town come on no way dude i have i'm having this guy that's here right now is going to take you downstairs to that car that's right there and you're going for a drive. Exactly. Otherwise you're giving the weak head start to fuck you over.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Which is what happens. The next to that, yeah, it's the second masquening, unless we want to mention anything else. This is the bank robbery scene. Yeah, so he decides like he wants to go out for like a night on the town, but then he realizes like he doesn't have any money. You ain't anyone
Starting point is 01:06:14 until you have money. That's the whole thing. That's right, dude. You ain't shit until you got some fat stacks in your pocket. So there's one thing I should bring up about his home life after the regert stops by. He has... The regert. The regert comes by. There is a newspaper clipping of Cameron Diaz.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You can't start doing that, buddy. That's a slippery slope you're talking about. You're starting to clip out all kinds of things after that. You cannot... Here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen, unless it is something where, like, your child or, like, a niece or nephew or something, like that achieved some athletic something or got profiled in the local
Starting point is 01:06:56 Gazette, whatever the fuck. You just as a great rule of thumb as a grown adult should not be clipping stories out of newspapers. I got an amendment on that. Okay. Do it after you kill them. Don't do it before you kill them.
Starting point is 01:07:12 If you want a trophy or whatever. Trophy clippings are a completely different world of clippings. You're right. Kidnap letters. It's better for magazines, honestly. Yeah, and you want to fasten some of their hair to the clipping just to sort of make it come to life a little bit for sure. Thank you, Steve.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Because then you could feel the hair and then you can finally shoot again. Because you're reenacting the crime scene in your head. But yeah, Chris, it's on his mirror and it is on a lonely wall too. It's a very not great. Better yesterday, buddy. Matter yesterday.
Starting point is 01:07:44 When you, uh, when we have the scene of him like deciding to go out for night to there's a bit of a continuity error here because after the first night of craziness he's like wow that's the end of that and he throws the mask out the window and leaves for work and the mask sort of
Starting point is 01:07:59 you see it boomerang and it goes back and lands on his pillow and then this scene starts with he's having like a sexy dream about Cameron Diaz this is her licking his ear because it's the dog waking him up and then it's like oh no the mask is here but the mask at that point is placed like
Starting point is 01:08:17 on the couch across the room Yeah, well, there's two options here. Either the place is haunted or the dog did it. Yeah, you got yourself a dog. And yeah, I mean, the mask thing, it's a haunted object. You know, boomerangs, it wants to be worn, you know. Of course it does, but then why would it remove itself from his pillow? It's a good point.
Starting point is 01:08:35 You know what I mean? Also, creepy fucking thing here. I don't know what's going on with this lonely Stanley Ipkis. But when he wakes up from that dream and he's like, let's go put the mask on, there is, did you catch this on the nightstand what he's got there? and open open jar of peanut butter
Starting point is 01:08:53 oh you know I saw that this was listed on IMDB as a trivia because that's what they put in Jim Carrey's ear to make the dog lick it so it was a thing where they just left it there that's a production error I think what a goof what a goof
Starting point is 01:09:09 that's kind of funny though because I noticed it and I was like what is he doing with that peanut butter which is also disrespectful for a dog actor of Maxis Cal You have to explain the scene to him. He'll do it. He just needs to understand it. You don't need to cheat with this guy. I'm going to walk, Charles. If you keep doing this with the peanut butter, I'm going to fucking walk.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm going to be, need to, you got to take me for a walk. I have to go to the bathroom. I mean, woof, woof. Peanut butter, that's like cute cards, okay? Like, I don't need that shit. I just need to be in the scene. Just tell me what you want me to lick. what is my dog motivation specifically dog motivation that's it I'm calling my agent who is a possum oh that's adorable
Starting point is 01:09:56 meanwhile Reggie Kathy and the gang are trying to which I love Reggie Kathy in the earlier scene is like oh you don't have to worry the doctor is in and then like he's on the phone with Peter Green he's like you all set me and he's like oh yes the doctor is in
Starting point is 01:10:14 and it's like the doctor just means he has guns? Like, it's not like, he's not super surgical in how he's going to rob this bank. Well, we never see, to be fair to, I think his name is Freeze. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Like, we don't actually see what his plan was going to be. You are right that they were approaching a closed bank with guns drawn. But the line in the van is fucking great, though. And it's another thing I just say to myself out of nowhere constantly is the
Starting point is 01:10:44 doctor is about to operate operate under these terms looks like he was just going to blow up the front of the building. Yeah. Is that when Seabless comes to your door? You're like, ooh, the doctor is about to operate. It's me. It's way too much Mexican food for one person.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I just crack open a bottle of Haritos and say that line. And you pretend that there's other people in the room. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Well, those are those embarrassing orders where it's like, It's just me. It's a bunch of food. And it's two separate rolls of silverware. Thanks a lot. I got the worst one today. I was at the beer store, the liquor store. I am going to see some people tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:11:28 My family, so I bought a little more than usual. But the guy did ask me, ah, you're having a party? Oh, man. I got that one time. This is just for the week. I don't need people being friendly with me. No, period. And here's the thing. Liquor store proprietors. and any seller of alcohol, don't make this presumption.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I think I talked about this one time like within the last year or so on the air. I was at a liquor store. And I was buying just two bottles of wine. And the person was like, oh, dinner party. And I was like, fuck. Exactly. No, this is sleeping pills, pal.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Back off. Yeah, I was like, this is for me and my wife for tonight. And I will see you tomorrow. Thank you very much. Exactly. So speaking of blowing up the building, the mask explodes in a tornado out the front door and he's got like two huge bags of money
Starting point is 01:12:23 and he's you know I love the thing if he snatches a couple of the bills up that are like floating in the air or whatever and they Reggie Kathy the doctor is like oh shit cops and they just start opening fire on police it's like immediately it's like guys how about you just like
Starting point is 01:12:38 you didn't rob the bank just put your guns away and you're good it's so ridiculous but yeah so they fire wildly the mask goes to the Coco Bongo. It's a great moment where he just throws all this money in the air and you see everyone waiting online to get into the club like freak out and try to grab it. It is a very Joker thing again right here, which is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I mean, the in-cell angle too, like a lot of this could line up and the fact that he finds crime funny, etc. Exactly. I'll tell you this. Most definitely, the mask 1994, much better than Joker 2019. Agreed. No doubt about it. Yeah, it's a photo finish.
Starting point is 01:13:19 They both have their peaks and valleys, but neither of them has... A photo finish, really? I think Jim Carrey should have won the honest with it. Anyway. So he goes to the club and, you know, this is the pretty famous. He is acting like the Texhavery Wolf. Steve, I want to point something out right here. Steve Sadex, Twitter, if you guys don't know, is a great resource for many reasons.
Starting point is 01:13:45 disagree. Wow. But I have to, well, you know what, Eric, I also like your Twitter feed too. So how about that? Agree. I thought you were going to say, uh, Zeprooter, no, I think it's because Steve, you fucking pointed out the freeze frame of when he is losing the wolf face and it's going back into Jim Carrey. And there's a moment where like, he is a green werewolf. It's really creepy. There's like a couple of frames and you captured it perfectly where he's like animated to look like a green like orc wolf creature thing.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I just brought it up. I see it now. So I take it back. This is one of the finest resources. His ears are long. I didn't notice that. When Steve tweeted this the other night I was like,
Starting point is 01:14:35 okay, it's a picture of Jim Carrey in the mask. Got it. Well, Eric's seriously bone-chilling. It looks like Yoda wearing a fucking yellow suit. The arm is like woven too. I didn't notice that at all.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Stop me somebody. Yeah, I got it. Smoking, I am. When I was scrolling through smoking, I was, I didn't notice it was any different. I was like, what is this? I do think Yoda is a character that put the mask on and never took it off
Starting point is 01:15:04 kind of a thing. Oh, and that's what happens, dude, when you just leave it on for that long. That's why his species is unknown. Do you think Yoda was just originally like a rabbit that accidentally put that mask? Yes, I do. Murder everybody on its planet and
Starting point is 01:15:19 then but grew wise over the years. Tamed the beast. Yeah. Well, because he was all alone dude. You know what I mean? And that's why you live 600 years because you're the mask. You're good to go. Oh. So the mask finally gets into the Cocoa Bongo sees Cameron Diaz perform and then gives the entire band
Starting point is 01:15:35 5 o'clock shadows. I guess this is the magic. He's using magic on the world around him. He also transforms their suits into darker, I guess. Yes, I guess. And this is, you know, your Hey, Pachuco song,
Starting point is 01:15:51 which is a good one. By the Royal Crown Review. Woo! But this was the song that, and this whole number where I was like, this fucking movie sparked like, you know, I think what happened was in like 1996 or something,
Starting point is 01:16:07 the guy who's like, this singer for the Cherry Popin' Datties was like, you know what? This whole like, ska punk thing just is not really working out. Let me just go home for the night. I'll put on a movie, just kind of clear my head, see what I can do. And when he
Starting point is 01:16:23 went home, he put on the mask, and this thing hit and he was like, say. It is, it is great. I also think that Jim Carrey and Cameron Diaz, when they're not turned into physical CGI cartoons, are doing a good dance number here. It's a fun. It is.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And she, again, she's a fun physical performer, and she like gets it, I think. a lot. One thing, if you're, the, the necessity of safe houses and crime is really important. Absolutely. You can not. One of people speak on this matter. You can't just, they show up. They, they run to the cops. Everything goes tits up. They don't get any money. They all got shot to shit. And they bring this dude back to Peter Green's club. And it's like, no, no, no, no. This is like going to Lawrence Tierney's house. at the beginning in reservoir dogs
Starting point is 01:17:14 he's out there grilling they bring fucking Mr. Orange it's like no this might be because Nico cut off all resources to Dorian at this point got it
Starting point is 01:17:23 but still like most crime associates would be like we don't want to be photographed together he Peter Green wants to be photographed with Reggie Kathy
Starting point is 01:17:30 all the time it seems like well they are best friends best friends best buddies all right I can't believe
Starting point is 01:17:37 you brought him here all right who wants a dog and who wants a burger I can't believe I'm hosting a cookout for these scumbays Oh and by the way Nunny is actually stole or any of the things I asked you twos This is perfect
Starting point is 01:17:54 It's a Mr. Pink inside this cook of this steak All right here's a reservoir dog with extra busted No shouldn't be extra ketchup dude That's for Tim Roth's character Oh that's true Fucking blood all over the place Uh yeah Michael Madsen, I don't remember which character use plays, but yeah, here's an ear taco for you.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Steve Hushemi, you had a kibasa, I guess. You do not bring fucking bleeding people to places of business. Absolutely not. You call him from a hotel or something. And this is, you know, Reggie Kathy's not doing well right here. He's like, someone got there before us. Does he say it was that mask? No, the other guy points it out because the mask is on the dance floor at the time.
Starting point is 01:18:42 But Reggie Kathy's like clearly about to check out right here. And Peter Green puts a cigarette in his mouth and Steve, I'll throw it to you because you called this out. This is Chris's baby. Oh, Chris Kavan, go ahead. So he throws a cigarette in his mouth and lights it. It says, suck on that. That's the last words this dude hears before he dies. What are you fucking Judd Nelson's dad and fucking breakfast club?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Smoke up, Johnny. it's so hilarious because he's like taking his last breaths and he's like suck on that the dude just dies oh it's great that's how you go into the the the nether world it's just fucking hearing suck on that you're focusing on the sucking i mean it's like one last cigarette yeah but you want to be able to you want to be able to breathe one in at least i would think well you that's why you have to suck it so he's like who did this and this other dude who I this other guy is from
Starting point is 01:19:44 something I think he's just I mean he's from the mask like he is he gets a lot of play in this movie and I mean as for like henchman number two like this guy gets a lot of play are you talking about the big bold guy no the guy with the long blonde hair right here spots the that's cliffhanger oh that guy that's cliffhanger guy the bald so then who's the bald guy with the like little ponytail at the back of his head he's the head cutter from escape from L.A. Oh, is that right? Yes. I saw some Tribune trivia, or maybe it was Wachapedia, that the dude with the blonde hair in the scene was almost Chris Elliott. Oh. Oh, that would be kind of interesting. What, like at birth? But his dad pulled down.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Exactly. There you go. There you go, Chris. That's what fucking IDB trivia says. So Dorian like clears out the club by firing guns wildly and they're like trying to go after the mask right here. And then this is like, this is my most hated part of this movie is when they fire on the mask and he's doing the multiple impressions whilst
Starting point is 01:20:49 dying, which then gets turned into this prolonged Oscars joke. I kind of like it. Really? I like the whole Western like you got me, partner. And if that was just, falling in his arms. If that was like the one dude, fine. Yeah. But there's a
Starting point is 01:21:07 bunch. This is after also he's done. One of the most terrifying iterations of the mask, in my opinion, is Elvis mask. Oh, right. Yeah. When he's like, he's dodging all the bullets and everything and he turns into Elvis at one point. And just the way they have craggily
Starting point is 01:21:22 faced old Elvis, but he's got the green mask on. It's bone chilling. It's Robin William syndrome. Just go, Jim. Just fucking do it. Exactly. Yeah. Want to do a Russian dance. Fucking go. He's going to do 10 and you got to use them all. kind of a thing. Yep, the contractual obligation of like, you got to use whatever I give you.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I have to ask, how often are these guys clearing out this club with guns? Like, they're just like firing into the air to be like, get out of here. Get out of here. Like, is this happening every night? That's a great question. And on top of that, it's got to be, Nico's got to be pissed. This is Nico's club. He's got to be pissed off about this whole thing. Because honestly, one of the most unbelievable parts about a movie where a guy puts on a wooden mask and turns into a rubbery cartoon character is that after this fucking
Starting point is 01:22:13 we're gonna go around shooting to get people out of this club the next week the Coco Bongo is packed to the brin again no way this club is out of oh there was a shooting there it's at least six months club death wish you know what there's like it's the intrigue
Starting point is 01:22:30 now the element of danger like oh this is a A sexy night out is only sexier if there's the threat of death. And also, to be fair, it's the only nightclub in town. Guys, guys, that's true. Did attendants at the Viper Room spike after River Phoenix fucking passed? I mean, probably a little bit. I bet you that's really disturbing.
Starting point is 01:22:52 So everything clears out. Peter Rieger comes in with the cops right here, finds a piece of Ipkiss's abhorrent sailor, little sailor boy fucking pajamas that he's got. It looks like a shirt Kramer would buy a Rudy's by the way. It does. So that all happens. This is the next morning. This is where he threatens the boss and he's like oh, I'm sure the IRS would love
Starting point is 01:23:14 to know that you're using Daddy's Bank as your own personal piggy bank. You'll have a nice vacation at Club Fed. We were talking we've talked a bunch and on our animation damnation episode we talk about it a bit too about kids in your school that did the mask jokes. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Right. We should mention that the animation damnation in question is this month's which is on the mask cartoon which is much worse than this movie much much worse but patreon.com slash we hate movies the mask kid in my school went so far he would
Starting point is 01:23:46 scream out I hope your daddy enjoys being at club fed at all hours he's using Ipkis lines he's going down to club fed man like you know smoke and sure somebody stopped me absolutely yeah P-A-R-T-Y because I got it
Starting point is 01:24:01 that was a hot one absolutely but we're doing club fed like i was like dude you got to stop you got you can't you can't say things that he says when he's stanley ipkis can that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard well you know it was trouble when he started doing the dorian mask lines super fan or he's like oh i got those concert tickets you wanted like what what are you like really i didn't ask for those oh it's from the movie i see got it okay all right So then this is one of the funniest things. This is very much a Batman thing. Richard Jenny's like, oh, hey, Stan.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I have two tickets to the charity ball at the Coco Bongo. Charity ball. This is straight out of Batman. Yes, it is. I mean, it just, you know, it should have taken place at a museum. You know what I mean? Like the relic. Is there a charity ball in the relic?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Yeah, that's what's happening at the end. When the monster attacks. When the relic attacks. You know what's a relic? now, the relic. That's prime tier. Tom Seismore, my friend. This is what he realized he doesn't want to be the mask anymore.
Starting point is 01:25:11 He goes to see Ben Stein. And like, it's just a bad scene. It's a very bad scene between him. And like, and that's my book was a metaphor. There's no actual mask. Exactly. His fucking office is full of masks. And a lot of mixed messages out of Ben Stein's office.
Starting point is 01:25:31 this is what we find out you can only use it at night and the guy and he's like well I'm supposed to see Tina tonight should I see her as me or the mask and it's like Ben Stein being like will it get me will it get you out of my office if I answer you and it's like this is a line that a real comedian should deliver
Starting point is 01:25:47 not some fucking Richard Nixon fucking hack yeah it's totally awful this is also where he is analyzing it and I hadn't remembered this part of it at all way back when we did episode on Son of the Mask, which
Starting point is 01:26:04 features fucking Alan coming playing Loki. But I remembered none of the Loki shit from this movie. And I think I may have incorrectly like stated on that Son of the Mask episode that like
Starting point is 01:26:19 the Loki stuff wasn't mentioned in this movie. Obviously I'm wrong. That's what this entire scene was about. He's like it's the Norse god of mistress. 4th or 5th century Scandinavian But the funny thing that you do get out of this scene
Starting point is 01:26:39 Is Jim Carrey being like, okay, here, Benstein, I'm going to show you what happens When you put this mask on. Get ready because your fucking pants are going to drop, dude, this is some wild shit. And when he puts it on and it doesn't work And he's screaming, there's one part, I swear to God he's doing a leather face impression.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I thought this was funny. It's so fucking funny. mask on and just pretending it works. Yeah. Oh man. I really love it. Um, so he, he decides to just go meet Cameron Diaz's character, uh, at this park, um, you know, not wearing the mask, but doing the, like, oh, I'll introduce you to the mask right now. Kind of, you know, he's right behind this bush kind of a thing. Peter Parker talking about his best friend Spider-Man. Yes, exactly. And very, Clark Kent Superman as well. Like, oh, he's right over there. he tells as Stanley Ipkis he tells
Starting point is 01:27:31 Cameron Diaz that he was college buddies with the mask and is like doing a real like oh I taught him everything he knows like I taught him out of dance and whatever the mask comes out playing a Frenchman here because he's a fucking loser with the cartoons he has to do a fucking
Starting point is 01:27:48 peppy le pew thing yeah this is I mean this is some real adult shit though he's like oh I will show you my croissant I will spread your patte And you're just like, wow. I mean, I wouldn't call it adult, but yeah. I mean, I get it.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I'm going to spread your paté? Because the question's not going to believe what's a penis, what's a vagina? It's going to be, what is paté? Yeah, exactly. I mean, these are some adult jokes, my friends. You don't need to say the actual body parts to understand the references. No, for sure. But it's immature is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Yeah. And I don't think the kids are like, oh, that's a sex thing. I think they're just like, oh, that's fine. funny words that the funny man is saying. Yes. We meet, we see again, just a little bit of Amy Asbeck, like working at the newspaper here with this other
Starting point is 01:28:38 reporter Murray. And this guy was the best friend's dad on Boy Meets World. Do you remember that guy? Sean's dad. Yes, Sean's dad. They kill him off with a heart attack at one point. It was fucking devastating. Never saw it. Oh, any of Boy Meets World?
Starting point is 01:28:56 No, I never, never tuned in. It's fine. you're not really missing anything you're missing the the lesser savage going to work on that show but she winds up she got a hot tip that the mask is in the park so she wants to go get him
Starting point is 01:29:09 and she goes out and this is when like he's doing a lot of people abuse stuff but it's very it's a bit like it's aggressive and like Cameron Diaz plays it right she's like grossed out by the mask at this point it's the only time in the movie where anyone has a fucking realistic reaction to the mask
Starting point is 01:29:25 she's like oh this is disgusting yes and it's kind of freaking out and everything and then this is where peter regert comes in he's busted right here and the mask does some masking with with regert and uh doyle is this the like freeze and then he turns into ice yeah he did yeah we do the freeze there's the fucking hilarious okay unfreeze yeah a little bit about what did i tell you you know he froze he turned into ice and he was unmasked very unfairly by the way. They're doing the gag where like he's like a regert
Starting point is 01:30:01 gets him handcuffed and then like he's having the like patrol cops take stuff out of his pockets and it's like you know a rubber chicken here's a bazooka. Nothing but knives and lint. And he goes yeah and he goes the fucking funniest thing is a picture
Starting point is 01:30:17 of Calloway's wife and it's this woman it's a picture of a woman like sexually posing and it's like call me sometime lover or something like Oh, another funny joke. Mainly made funnier, or as funny as it is, because of Peter Rieger's reaction to it. Margaret, you son of a bitch. So the mask, you know, takes care of these dudes.
Starting point is 01:30:40 I think he handcuffs the two of them together, and then he leaves the park, and this is the big Cuban Pete number. Now, the Cuban Pete thing is taking place out in the city street, and there's like a movie theater right here. Did anybody catch the poster? Surf Ninjas? Yes, I think it is Surf Ninjas. I'm pretty sure it's Surf Ninjas. Okay, I thought, I was looking at it and I was like, is that the Surf Ninjas poster? All right, excellent. Excellent that Surf Ninjas
Starting point is 01:31:06 has presence in this movie. It got distribution in Edge City. That's where it opened. That's where the premiere was. But yeah, the Cuban Pete number, yeah. The Cuban Pete number, it's kind of fun. It's definitely fun. It's fucking great. There's a lot of awesome choreography here. And Jim Carrey is in the choreography himself.
Starting point is 01:31:25 And this was the scene where I rewatching it just now, I was really like, you know what, despite what anyone may think of this movie, this is a hell of a performance. It's fun. Because, like, he just had to have been exhausted the entire time. He is giving it his all. And it makes for like a real charming movie, in my opinion. Yes, I agree. I mean, he's going all out with these.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Like, anything that anyone is doing physically in this movie, Jim Carrey is topping them at least tenfold. Yes. It's wild. And like in no greater example, I think, than in this Cuban Pete number where he is just fucking going to town. He's dancing on the cop car. You know, he's dancing, he grabs the
Starting point is 01:32:08 one cop, you know, and he's dancing with her because she's like magically singing along to the Cuban Pete song and everything. It's just a spectacular scene in this movie. I have to say when he does, because he does the Cuban Pete thing, and they handcuff
Starting point is 01:32:23 Doyle and this is where the Doyle happens. And when he takes off the mask I was really like, it's unsettling in a really good way I think. Like it really looks correct. It's like some body horror shit dude. It's like nose and
Starting point is 01:32:39 eyelids are sticking to it. It's a lot of effects and it does, but it doesn't look bad. Like it's an effect's heavy shot and it really, they did it really well I think. And this is, I think this movie's effects benefit from the fact that it's really okay and all the better, the more cartoon-y
Starting point is 01:32:56 they look. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, because you're portraying a cartoon and it's easier to make a cartoon look like a cartoon than a cartoon to look like I don't know, Peter Cushing. Oh, someone stop me. The Tarkin mask, dude.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Oh, my God. Yeah, that'd be fucking great. You don't know. You knew. So, he takes the mask off. It's bone chilling. the cops are right there but he gets picked up by Peggy Amy Yazbek and she drives him away there's a totally pointless ADR right here where she just yells seatbelts
Starting point is 01:33:34 for no reason that's not funny it's just this whole thing like kind of comes to nothing she goes she disappears after this scene yeah do you know why she disappears after the scene no I think they fucking killed her probably yeah in the deleted scenes she gets murdered in this scene Dorian as the mask throws her
Starting point is 01:33:52 into the newspaper printing machine and she gets ground up we need these deleted scenes of this movie and what's funny he says like oh yeah you'll you know you'll finally make the front page or whatever and then it segues into funny enough an image of her falling into the thing
Starting point is 01:34:11 and it says like reporter mysteriously murdered or whatever whoa so even Uber Dorian has a sense of humor and they cut it because they expected like oh this would be a good character to bring back in the sequel. Oh, what the crooked reporter? Who cares? Yeah, let her die.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I would think they would kind of just, again, for the kid element, like, that's a little too dark kind of thing to murder her. You know, but, you know, and I get it. I, you know, obviously it's all about financials and box office. I just wish we lived in a society where not everything had to be for shit-eating children. Because what you're telling me of all of these deleted scenes are making up for a more interesting movie. I think this movie is totally fine but if you keep that in
Starting point is 01:34:55 instead of just allowing this character to vanish from the film that's better it makes more sense I will say that one of the biggest selling point is the runtime for this one this movie moves like real quick
Starting point is 01:35:08 yeah so she fucking you know she's in it because Dorian there's some throwaway scene where he's like $50,000 to whoever you know brings me the mask or whatever and she's like oh sorry Stanley but you know how hard it is to get an apartment in the city
Starting point is 01:35:24 or she's like, I needed this for condo money. I mean, it makes sense, right? We were just complaining you could never live alone. That's true. That's true. Amy Asbeck wants to live alone. Too bad she is murdered off screen, which we definitely should have seen. Oh, she'll live alone in hell.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Yes, I'm new to hell. I'm wondering if I'd be able to get a single. Is there a studio? Oh. I'm a big wings fan. Right this way. Oh, you'll have to share a room with Stephen Weber because I always wanted you two to get together. Yeah, this is that I came from a single white female.
Starting point is 01:36:03 How are you doing there, Amy? Is he murdered in that movie? Oh, he gets it in that movie, dude. Ah, it's been a real long time since I've seen it. So Dorian gets the mask, he puts it on, and as Steve, credit to you, he becomes super shredder. It's stupid. This thing is, you have to have faith in the guy doing it.
Starting point is 01:36:22 It's like, if you hire Peter Green, I want to see Peter Green do the mask. I don't know what that looks like. It's probably unsettling, but I want to see that. Not just some big bodybuilder guy and it was a modulated voice. This is a different guy then, right? Oh, yeah, it's a huge. Oh, this guy looks like Lou Ferrigna. No, it's definitely a different guy.
Starting point is 01:36:38 It's got a tomato can for a neck. He looks like Andrew Cuomo. He does. Oh, shit. Yeah, he kind of does. I have, I am currently wearing. contact lenses and some skin cream to hide the fact that I have blistering red eyes and a green complexion. He also kind of looks like Robert Davy a bit. Yeah. A little bit. Well, no, actually
Starting point is 01:37:06 funny thing, Robert Davy in some of them, their maniac cop movies, he looks like maniac cop. Yeah, yeah. This head is the head and chin of what's his face, that dead guy. Robert Zedar. Robert Zedar. Yeah, exactly yeah i mean the thing is with with with robert davy like he's got a big honk and knows that this this mask does not that's a good point and he's doing you know he's just got the modulated devil voice and like peter green is just pretty much out of the movie until the last scene kind of a thing yeah and uh this is when they they give them they give the police the mask which is stanley ipkis with a and it's it always bothered me as a kid like it's just a shitty green like masks like that's the mask
Starting point is 01:37:49 no it's not it's a funny way to like try to wrap this up and frame them yeah it is kind of great I mean because they do have I think it's Rieger it's got a line right here like Stanley Ipkis is gonna fall right in my lap and then like the goons drive by and throw
Starting point is 01:38:05 Jim Carrey out of the car with this garbage mask on or whatever I like in the original edit how the idea was like okay so this reporter turns him in 50 grand here you go wait we're going to take that back and just kill you. Why don't just kill Stanley Ipkins? Yes, that's a great question.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Like, why? You know, I guess it's the idea of like, oh, if they think that they've captured the mask, then they're not going to be looking for them anymore. And now Uber masks, such as he is, Dorian can run around. You're not worried about fucking Doyle at this point, though, man. Like, just fucking kill
Starting point is 01:38:37 this guy. Yeah, they should both be just fucking thrown into that printing press. You're going to go to this Mickey Mouse jail? Not a big problem, dude. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, you're right. Steve, this does bogged down a little bit here. He's in this jail cell for an awful long time. He's, like, upset, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:53 Carmen Diaz comes to say goodbye to him, because she's going to skip town. They have one more scene, and she's, it's a nice scene enough where she's like, you know, I liked you more than I liked the mask, kind of a thing. Right. They almost, it's kind of funny because it's like the second time in the movie they're about to kiss and then get
Starting point is 01:39:09 interrupted. This is mostly to give you more time with the, our greatest dead actor, uh, this dog. I thought you're going to say Peter Cushley Like this dog It's a lot of the dog
Starting point is 01:39:23 Being sad That he can't be with Jim Carrey It is fucking devastating dude And he's doing like the You know like go on You go find someplace else to live now And this dog Lays down in that alley
Starting point is 01:39:36 Like I will wait for you And let me tell you I didn't cry or anything But I was like This is just devastating Like this And it's just a credit To Max the dog
Starting point is 01:39:46 Oh that's dog the way the dog looks up like he's looking at the jail cell window oh that's hard that's good dude that's lucky because we have uh in our we hit movies contracts if you cry at the mask you're instantly off the show so thankfully we just dodged a bullet you just really mask clause yeah that's why i didn't cry at doom i just knew it was in the contract so i know i had to avoid that there's a lot of weird rules in that contract it is we signed it a long time ago and some of them are unfair but they are what they are it was one of those things where we got really wasted and we made that whole thing up. And then the next morning it was like, wow, that was funny. And then it was like, oh, this is all legally binding now. That's why every episode I'm sitting here with a fucking huge bowl of yellow M&S.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Can't laugh at Schindler's list. Why would I want to? Chris, the fact that you even brought that up means you want to, you sick, fuck. So, you know, whatever here. You know, Dorian is like, we're going to
Starting point is 01:40:44 like strike the club kind of a thing. he also sends goons for Tina this is Cameron Diaz's character right when she leaves the jail you know so they kind of kidnap her again there is a fucking great moment here though where it's Jim Carrey
Starting point is 01:41:02 in the jail cell putting a bunch of toilet paper on the seat in the toilet seat in the jail cell because he's going to take his shit and then like it's a great touch it's all just interrupted by Cameron Diaz screaming like down the street being chased by these dudes but it is so because he is like meticulously layering paper paper toilet paper like on the seat oh god it's
Starting point is 01:41:23 great yeah and he uh this is when the dog shows up he gets the dog to jump into the set the window because the guard fell asleep which is it's fine it's fun at this point i don't care anymore i kind of agree i do like stanley ibke's fucking pistol whipping this cop though it's kind of hilarious and then he takes uh calloway like as his prisoner but he uses regert to like you know get him out of the because Rieger's like you're not going to get out of here this is a police station he's like oh right you're going to take me out of here kind of a thing
Starting point is 01:41:54 we go to the Coco Bongo for the casino night fundraiser for what we're told is just war orphans that got a laugh out of me that was pretty funny and this is when Dorian shows up and he murders Nico it's kind of cool
Starting point is 01:42:11 he gets shot with a bunch of bullets and then his mouth turns into a gun kind of a thing yeah like he opens his mouth and it's like all the bullets are inside and he spits him back and murders this old man which it would have been awesome if you take a note from fucking
Starting point is 01:42:26 Batman and you have all this happen way earlier in the movie. You kind of forget this guy's even around. You're like oh they killed Nico. All right well on with the movie. Who's that was that like the is that one of the auto mechanics because I figured they'd be dead after that. Yeah dude you can't
Starting point is 01:42:42 have a fucking tailpipe shoved up your asshole like that and lived to tell the tail. at least your digestive system is fucked forever. Yeah. You're eating out of the tail, by the way, the tailpipe. Yeah, all right. One of the henchmen around here, by the way, I think
Starting point is 01:42:58 it's literally crediting him as henchman number seven. Is that dude, Kevin Greivu? A girl, yes. Underworld, and he's been in a thousand things, a lot stunt work and stuff. He sounds like the devil himself. He was in steel, I believe.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Yes, that sounds right. Is he in steel? Who does he play in Steele? Do you remember? The dude sounds like the devil. Like he's just got this enormous deep voice. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he does have a super deep voice. Good for playing a werewolf, I think.
Starting point is 01:43:26 The one good thing about I found in Edge City is when they're driving to this club, uh, Stan, Ipkis and Regert, uh, is there is a tower records in the background. Yes. Oh, really? It's the only bit of placement I really noticed. What a, uh, Doyle is eating McDonald's at one point. Oh, he is okay. Oh, uh, so Cabin,
Starting point is 01:43:46 I'm curious now because they filmed this movie in L.A. Is it the same tower records we see on Melrose's place all the time? I don't think so, actually. Okay, okay. I like the McDonald's guy being like, oh, cool, so you're going to have awesome, you're going to have McDonald's
Starting point is 01:44:02 in the movie, that's great. So Jim's going to have a cheeseburger? No, Jim's not going to have it. Okay, is it Jim as the mask? Would be the villains? No. Oh, Cameron Dia. Well, you got this big fat sidekick, you see. and he's stupid so he's eating your product
Starting point is 01:44:18 would you like to try our smoking mesquite barbecue sauce oh yes please see that that's dude you're right cabin the McRib comes back and it's smoking mesquite barbecue sauce for a mask tie-in that's a good question was there a tie-in for this movie
Starting point is 01:44:34 or no you would think there would be well it's new line so maybe not I don't yeah I don't know that's a good question I don't remember any But so, yeah, the mask comes back here. You know, there is a great line where he says to the dog, Daddy's going to have to go kick some ass.
Starting point is 01:44:54 And then he, like, twirls Peter Rieger's, like, revolver that he's got as he gets out of the car. It's kind of another funny, like, totally throwaway Jim Carrey physicality move, but I love it. Then he enlists Richard Jenny as well to, like, help get people out of the club. Oh, that's the best part is he fucking give him. is Richard Jenny a pistol and he's like here's this gun. Help safely escort people out of this club. No thanks.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Yeah, I'll pass. I have another fucking love safari to go on. This is so Dorian has Tina here, Cameron Diaz tied up to a pole or a fake palm tree or something in the club and there's a bomb attached
Starting point is 01:45:37 to her leg and this is the fucking creeptacular there's always time for one last kiss. I think you mean, there's always time for one last kiss. It is quite the delivery. It's weird. It's something else. It's not in this movie.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I don't know why it is, but it's in this movie. I mean, like, I think Tim Curry has that exact line in legend. And he fucking looks the same too. So, yeah, I mean, whatever. The fucking dog is the hero of this film. He comes in because what happens to Cameron Diaz is like, hey man I want to kiss Dorian the guy used to love I don't want to kiss this
Starting point is 01:46:16 Uber fucking mask guy here so he takes the mask off and then this is where Cameron Diaz kicks it and you know Milo the dog comes and you know grabs it I gotta say one of the biggest applause moments in my theater going experience
Starting point is 01:46:31 is when this mask goes on this dog the fucking theater went nuts oh wow nuts that's incredible I did see this in theaters but I do not remember what the reaction was to Milo. You both saw this
Starting point is 01:46:46 in theaters and we're saying it's not a children's movie. Well, that's what, that's, I'm not saying it was in a children's movie. That's, that guy's deal. Just because I saw it as a child doesn't mean it's a children's movie. That's also true. I saw Terminator 2 and Mike Lerner. I think around the same time I saw fucking Friday the 13th part six
Starting point is 01:47:01 is at the same age. Is that a children's movie? Yes. Uh-huh. That's I mean, the dog getting the mask is on like the other side of the of the wavelength from when Claire Dane starts crying at the end of Romeo and Juliet. What?
Starting point is 01:47:17 It's like great, like the difference is like there's this big, I was in like a theater just like yours, Steve, like laughing, woohoo, it's like all this. Whereas comparatively when I saw Romeo and Julia and Claire Dane starts crying at the end, like oceans of tears.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Oh really? People freaked out in the theater. Everybody was like sobbing, not just like a couple little tears, like like blowing their nose. You've got to get out and be like, What did you people expect? That's one of the fucking oldest things ever.
Starting point is 01:47:48 You know the ending. I've never heard so many people cry in a theater in my life. That is the funniest fucking thing. So as Milo has the mascot and he's like, you know, wreaking havoc on a lot of these henchmen and everything, Jim Carrey runs up to Dorian and, you know, starts fighting him and everything. And now here's a question I had.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Am I just remembering it for this movie? or are there multiple Jim Carrey movies where he's doing the I'm really punching this person in the face a bunch of times because that's the gag here where he's really just slugging this guy and like screaming and everything while he's doing it
Starting point is 01:48:24 and I was like ah did I also at one point see Ace Ventura do a similar gag or is that just from this movie? I don't recall Senator gotcha I feel like that is familiar so I think Jim Carrey's done that before okay I wasn't sure follow-up question, is this
Starting point is 01:48:42 actual urine coming out of a dog's actual penis right here? Is this a puppet? I think the whole dick is CGI as well. You think this dog's penis is CGI? That dog's walking. He's all natural. Yeah, I guess maybe you're right. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:58 But you don't want a dog pissing on set. Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't. It depends on the type of movie you're making. You're right. It's not a children's movie after all. Oh, you want a dog who pisses, I got a dog to do that. You want the dog to piss on her? The director who brought us the blob and nightmare on Elm Street 3,
Starting point is 01:49:19 I could see dog pissing on the set. It, you know, it is fucking funny. He pisses right and not Chris Elliott's face, which I enjoyed. So, you know, I mean, the big standoff here at the end of the movie is Jim Carrey, you know, the mask goes flying behind the bar. They're all firing wildly at stake. Nipkis and you know he jumps over the counter and everything and there's the big delay of like all right when's he gonna pop out as the mask kind of a thing you obviously didn't murder this and it's also been like
Starting point is 01:49:49 about a half hour since we've seen the mask as well yeah yeah you're absolutely right the thing I fucking bought a ticket for and it was stuck on Peter Green's face the whole time but you know and then this is he's you know doing the dirty um hairy impression right here he's and he's got the big super gun a super duper gun Now, and he's dressed as a mobster now as well, so he's really getting into it. Yeah, exactly. This and the big horn were your special attacks in the video game. Oh.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Just so everybody knows. The big horn at the beginning, the Auga. Oh, when the guy like honks at him in the street and it's like press very gently. Well, that was the mask going a little too far. The guy was just honking his horn. Like, it doesn't need to be deaf for the rest of his life. The mask. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Fuck that guy. I think the mask showed incredible restraint there. Yeah. He should have shoved a fucking piece of his car up his ass. Was that a special attack in the game, Chris? Yes, it was, actually. Maybe, you know, if he made that in his calling card, they could just start calling him the tail piper.
Starting point is 01:50:56 Oh, the tail piper robbed that bank. Look at that security guards. Now I'm thinking of Batman 89 again with this whole town needs an animal. Oh. Maybe that's what they call instead of the mask is the animal. because he only perpetrates ass crime this enema
Starting point is 01:51:17 comes with the god Loki in it something should have shoved up Benstein's ass my book the asses we wear was a metaphor Steve you're right
Starting point is 01:51:31 somebody should shove something at Benstein's ass sure they have or pull the stick out of it either or I don't know what's going on down there So, yeah, whatever. He fucking eats the bomb, does a, that's a spicy meat to ball joke.
Starting point is 01:51:44 He flushes the villain down. I feel like that's a spicy meat to ball was another one that was screamed. Oh, yes. That was that fucking fat kid in my school loved it. Did he? Oh, did he really scream that's a spicy meat to ball? Absolutely. This kid was a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Wow. And this kid was heavy, you said. Yes. I'm asking because my mask kid was very thin. Oh, interesting. I had mask envy because I'm like, he's pulling it off. He's fucking Ipkins over there. Miss me off as a little fat kid. I was like, oh, that's the popular kid.
Starting point is 01:52:12 And I was like, that kid's a fucking hack. You know what I mean? Like, then you really showed him up, dude? Well, no, I didn't. I was a coward and I was being bullied constantly. But I was just like, I'm funnier than that kid. And look at you now, dude. Where's that kid? Nowhere. Oh, yeah. He's, uh, yeah, he flushes Dorian right here.
Starting point is 01:52:33 This is the most cartoonish out of anything, I think, is him getting the painter's palette and painting the flush handle on the tree. It's fucking great, man. And he just flushes this dude down a fountain that's in the club. It's so funny. It's funny. I mean, that's kind of what you think of your villain, right? Like, I just
Starting point is 01:52:53 flush him down the toilet. I don't know. I don't know how to end this movie. Just flushing him down the toilet. Yeah. I would have been fucking, I would have been fucking flushing things left and right. If I knew I had that power. Yeah, have I had this flush capacity? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:53:07 I've been flushing a lot lately in quarantine. have you really expand on that well Danny likes to eat I do like when Peter Rieger it's like leaving this fucking club and the mayor he runs into the mayor and he's like watch it chunky
Starting point is 01:53:24 totally oh man it's a fucking that he realized it's the mayor and he's like oh no and he's like well we caught the mask at Stanley Ipkis and the mayor's like no it was Dorian I saw it which is great cover for ifkis by the way has anybody know the name of the actor who plays
Starting point is 01:53:41 the mayor? No, I didn't look at it. The most Prague rock band name I've ever heard in my life. Ivory Ocean. Nice, dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like the, the, uh, the band is ivory and the album is Ocean. Open it up for Camel.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I would go to that. I would go to that show. Oh, looks like we lost Ivory Ocean in 2011. Oh, no. He was also in, credited as guard ivory in, uh, lost Highway. He was also in... I watched the mask this weekend
Starting point is 01:54:15 and I loved the guy that played the mayor. We got to do Lost Highway on WLM sometime. We will. Totally. If Robert Blake got the mask lookout. Oh, fuck. He'd murder so many of his ex-wives.
Starting point is 01:54:31 I mean, he's already at your house while at this party. What could he be doing with the mask on you? It would be insane. At least you could get some zingers while he's doing it. This dude also joined Lou Diamond Phillips in the only narrative that Errol Moore's
Starting point is 01:54:49 ever directed, The Dark Wind. You've never seen it. Which also, it's not good. Which also stars or co-stars in some role, that dude Blake Clark, who was in this movie as the reporter and Sean's dad on Boy Meets World. How about that? Small world, everybody.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Ivory Ocean. Rest in peace. Mayor Tilton he's credited in this movie So I mean, you know, that's pretty much The end of it, you know Cameron Diaz is now You know, with Stan Ipkiss She and Richard Jenny are driving in a convertible
Starting point is 01:55:23 With Ipkis to toss the mask Over the Bridge again I don't know who asked I guess Kevin Richard Jenny tested well I have no idea what he's doing In this ending of this movie It's he's got no business here Aside from this lame sequel setup man
Starting point is 01:55:36 You know like You know so So Jim Carrey's like, you know, oh, you know, Tina, are you sure about this? You know, and it's actually Cameron Diaz that takes the mask and throws it into the river. And then, yeah, dude, just Richard Jenny and this dog racing to get the mask. Come on. It's embarrassing. Yeah, they just jump into the fucking water.
Starting point is 01:55:57 It's crazy. And of course, Milo, the dog gets it before Richard Jenny. And he goes, Milo! He beats him to the punch. And then speaking of, man, I could not, I do not remember, remember. this, but boy, this movie just ends on a freeze frame of the two of them kissing. Yeah. He says smoking. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:56:14 He does. It's not as the mask. Yeah. And it's a freeze frame on making out. We learn that regular people can say smoke it. Even for the normies. And that's what empowered the fucking mask kid, guys. That's what empowered them. Yeah. They were going to get a camera
Starting point is 01:56:29 camera Diaz of their own someday. Exactly. Prayers up for all the mask kids out there. That is the end of the movie, the mask for the continuing adventures of this haunted mask see son of the mask or don't that's real real quick if you if anyone out there's got an interesting the mask kid story yes to the mailbag we all hate movies at gmail.com and maybe we'll just read it on the air there you go
Starting point is 01:56:56 would anybody recommend the mask by the way steve say that i would not and i feel like i might be alone here uh i've seen this would be a trillion times like i i'm glad that that I saw it, but I can't imagine going out in the cold lighted day in 2020 telling you a gentle listener to go watch the mask. It's a, I still get a lot out of it. I think Carrie is very good
Starting point is 01:57:21 here without him. There's not much. It's just, it's kind of a messy grading film for me, personally. That's where I'm at. Eric Siska. I'm going to say, go see the mask in this cold light of 2020. I, I, I think it held up more than I expected it to.
Starting point is 01:57:40 And I think it's really just Jim Carrey's, like, star power. You know, like his performance, he's really giving it at his all. And it is just absolutely fun to watch. And I'm a sucker for it. So, yeah, I like the movie. That's all right. It's okay to feel that way. How about Chris Cabo?
Starting point is 01:57:58 Oh, absolutely recommend. I mean, A, I would feel like a turncoat if I didn't. Oh, wow, shots fired. I spent my childhood fucking obsessed with this movie and like yeah it's one of the few movies I've come back to where I wasn't like
Starting point is 01:58:13 screaming about like oh that's a terrible thing you just said oh that's a terrible oh no sure it's not problematic at all no no no and like you know the thing is is like yes it is built around completely around Jim Carrey but Jim Carrey is in it a lot
Starting point is 01:58:27 yeah and I get a lot of Jim Carrey out of it and whereas like now I look I try to watch Ace Ventura again and I'm like oh oh yeah like this this is a little bit and like I can only watch dumb and dumber so many times I guess that's the thing is for me it's like the move is go to dumb and dumber it's really just like straight to dumb and dumber yeah I mean and Jeff Daniels is incredible in that movie so that yes that is the best of the Carrie movies I would say that aren't like the Truman show and like serious stuff like Eternal Sunshine but yeah like I and not the graphics are good yeah I just I like this movie and it is a bomb in 2020 for me it's a what a bomb? You know, the bomb, the bomb, the bomb. Wait, you said the ball.
Starting point is 01:59:09 B-A-L-M or B-O-M-B. B-A-L-M. Thank you. So not B-O-N-G. That was me watching it this week. Yeah, that was just you. That was just you. Okay, got you.
Starting point is 01:59:18 I would have been right there with you this morning, Eric, but I had phone meetings to do so I could not participate. I would recommend this movie, after all, is said and done. I think one of the big pluses to revisit an old property like this from, you know, the year, the early 90s, the fact that there's nothing in this that you're watching it and you're like, well, that hits like a thud right now.
Starting point is 01:59:42 You know, like, I was super impressed by that. I really couldn't believe it. And I think also just for you know, younger audiences out there, you know, for folks that are like, oh, the guy from Sonic the Hedgehog or the kick ass guy or Mr. Popper's
Starting point is 01:59:59 penguins or a Christmas Carol or maybe your parents really love the number 23. The Grinch. Grinch. Yeah, that's true. Lemony Snicket where he's fucking
Starting point is 02:00:09 Count Olaf in that movie, all that shit. Now are you just naming all these like he makes me even rank this movie higher. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's a movie that it's a,
Starting point is 02:00:20 you can really see this guy at the height of his powers. And I really think that he's a total genius. He's a total comedic genius. And just to showcase that in this movie, all the, you know, the sort of non-emotion
Starting point is 02:00:34 that I felt after, watching it now and just realized like I was just burned out on this movie. I don't know. I think actually talking about it right now sort of revitalized me a little bit in that department but like this guy is just he's so much better than the Grinch and I think this is a prime
Starting point is 02:00:47 you know example of that. So I would totally recommend it also. Maybe it's a thing where the acid of the catchphrases just burns through my brain and I can't get past them. I you know and I completely understand that. You know I had several of them
Starting point is 02:01:04 in my school. I had a very close friend who we didn't go to the same school but he fucking loved this shit and it was like constant. Yeah, fans of movies can ruin movies. That's for sure. See Star Wars
Starting point is 02:01:20 for an example. As a borderline mask kid who did indeed go as the mask for a Halloween once and I did indeed. Pictures or it didn't happen. There are pictures. I don't know where they are. I'm not saying you need to share them publicly or anything. I just need that
Starting point is 02:01:36 on our text chain at some point. Baby, you know, lose the heroes. Get with the zeros. But I think that is going to do it for our convo on the mask. Now, of course, if you want more We Hate Movies, including a soon-to-be-released episode on The Mask Cartoon on Animation Damination, be sure to check out our Patreon. And that, of course, is patreon.com slash we hate movies. A lot of bonus stuff out there for this month of July,
Starting point is 02:02:03 which we are in right now. What else do we have coming out this month? We've got a banger of a We Love movies episode on Raiders of the Lost Ark. Oh, right. Now, we did record that already. That was a lot of fun reminiscing about another movie from childhood, of course. I was super fun, and it's a long episode, and I think people are going to really love that. And not only that on the Gleap Gloucestry, we've got Bib Fortuna.
Starting point is 02:02:28 As Senator Seda, can I ask you, since Raiders of the Lost Ark, is that now technically Indiana Jones won? Do not. Don't do that. You know what? I would prefer for everything was Raiders, Colin. Yes, exactly. Raiders of the Temple of Doom, Raiders of the Last Crusade. Raiders of the Crystal Skull. That's the move.
Starting point is 02:02:48 That is what he's doing. He's just raiding all of these places to find those things. We also, by the way, are redropping on our Patreon the sucker punchmentary sometime this month. That's going to be super exciting. That's right. Steve say that, because I know a ton of folks have been asking about the situation
Starting point is 02:03:07 there. Do you want to fill folks in on the technically right now unavailable earlier we hate movies commentaries? For the next three months, we're going to be dropping them once a month. Sucker punchmentary, then the Nemesis Mentory, the Star Trek nemesis commentary. And then our absolutely, and then
Starting point is 02:03:23 in September, our very first commentary ever, which was Chud, which will be super exciting. Ooh, yeah, and I just, I just went back through that Chud commentary. It's a good time, so you're going to want to catch that on the Patreon. So you might want to just stay a patron for at least three or four months, you know, just go through, write it out.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Or three or four years. Yeah, also years would be good. By the way, speaking of money and or money going places, all proceeds from our merch sales on our T-Public store, which you can find at WHModcast.com, go to Black Lives Matter and Black Lives Matter related charities, charities that are trying to combat racial injustice and police brutality. So if you go to WHMpodcast.com, you'll get a link that's, you can. they're going to take it to the tea public store or you can just go directly and donate to Act Blue which is a link between about 11 charities that rule that we're that's going to be all of
Starting point is 02:04:12 2020 before and all the way to the end if there is an end and and that's right and by the way just a big thanks for the folks who have kicked into that already it's been going really well we had a big response off of the can't hardly wait watch party what we did a couple weeks ago a lot of folks were you know donating and kicking in during that time so keep it up we're really appreciative of that. And as always here in We Hate Movies, the show rose on, the main feed continues chugging along, Steve Sadek.
Starting point is 02:04:40 The summer blockbuster extravaganza, as we know it, is still happening. So what do we got going on next week? Oh, we are just stuck in an airport, you guys. We got nowhere else to go because it's the terminal. Oh, God. This one might break us. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Catch up. I don't know. I mean, like, being quarantined and not being in a terrific mood most of the time, having to watch the terminal? I don't know. Okay. I'm excited. All right. He's excited. I haven't seen it since it came out and I remember it being a very funny movie in a bad way. Anyway, we'll see what happened.
Starting point is 02:05:14 I miss Burger King the movie. I really do. I, you know, I saw that movie one time in the theater. I did not care for it. And I also, you know, aside from quarantine and the movie is about a due to us to live in one place for an extended period of time, which when you watch it feels like he's living there for 12 years it also sucks that it's going to be a bunch of airport footage and we miss being
Starting point is 02:05:40 on tour, we miss traveling to see folks I think this one might break me I think this dumb fucking terminal movie might break it. We'll find out next week. I guess we'll have to wait and see. So until next week with the terminal. I'm Andrew Jufin.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Take it easy. That was a hate-gum podcast.

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