We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 500 (Part II) - Superman IV Redux

Episode Date: August 20, 2020

On the conclusion of WHM's FIVE HUNDREDTH (!!!) episode, the gang is chatting about the spectacular failure that is Superman IV: The Quest for Peace! Did Hackman flat-out refuse to use anything other than his real hair this time? Why sub out Otis for, ugh, Lenny Luthor? And could the producers not agree on a real villain to use, ultimately damning us with Nuclear Man? PLUS: One more HUGE thanks to our fantastic army of listeners and loyal subscribers—there would be no point in doing this without you; your support is what keeps this whole thing moving and encourages us to work harder and create all that much more fun stuff for you all to put in your ears! We thank you for hopping on during the first 500 and we look forward to having you around for the next 500! WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace stars Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Margot Kidder, Jon Cryer, Jackie Cooper, Marc McClure, Sam Wanamaker, Mariel Hemingway, and Mark Pillow as Nuclear Man; directed by Sidney J. Furie. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today on the program, the adventure continues. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Shadak with Gene Hackman's voice. I'm Eric Siska. Chris Cappin. And this is still the 500th episode of We Hate Movies. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to We Hate Movies. Thank you for retuning in. As always, this is WHM 500 Part D. That's right. Superman for The Quest for Peace from 1987 directed by Sidney J. Fury, who you may know as the author behind the Ipcris File, the entity, multiple Iron Eagle movies, and the motion picture ladybugs.

He also directed a, it's hard to find, you have to like know somebody who knows somebody to get this. A movie called Cablooey. that was about a purple alien who traversed the earth to find his dog companion that he had been traveling the stars with. How we have the dog is Kabloonky. Yes, Kablooky is the dog, you're correct. Very interesting movie.

Now, can I just say really quickly because I did not check Chris Cabin's statement against the IMDB, so I'm going to take a chance here and say, dude, can you hook me up with what you're smoking? Cablooey is the name of this movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an in-joke for an episode,

that we recorded earlier that's going to come out tomorrow. Hooray! And I've already fucking forgot that because that's how my brain is functioning. But anyway, here we are. We're back in the studio to talk about Superman Part 4, the Quest for Peace,

just like we did 10 years ago, where we pretended that we ran out of time and had to do two episodes, when really we were just terrified about trying to do more than 35 minutes on something back in the day. So here we are a decade later this movie still fucking sucks

I gotta say I warmed up to it quite a bit this time around I think it's better than three I do I definitely think it's it's much better than three it feels like a fucking Superman movie and maybe it's because again we started this week by doing Superman the movie which I felt full on fell back in love with like you know I knew that I liked it a lot now I'm like super in love with that movie again and I was like oh man and then three just

really just rips your taint out and then four is like okay I can I could at least see what they're doing oh my god what happened here

it looks like he ripped his taint out detective ah shoot man got drunk against son ripping people's taint's out oh my god that's his fucking

finisher when he put him in that fucking mortal combat he's a taint rip we're gonna have to mass build cemeteries they're all dead it's just a weird

way to kill somebody Oh, Taintrip. Taintrip. Tasty. I don't know, man, where I come from, that's a friendship move. That's a tape caress. Oh, sure, big difference. What was one of the ones? They had so many different, like, endings for those Mortal Kombat. One was, like, bestiality or something.

Oh, animality. Yeah, dude, fucking scorpions just sucking off a goat. Animality. Did he win or did he lose? Did he win or did he lose? Dude, you know what? With that move, everybody's a loser. So you do an abistiality, which is sucking off a goat in front of your enemy,

thus disgusting them, like to killing themselves. It might surprise everybody to know that I think the quarantine might have gotten to Steve. What did I do? This guy's ragging him out taints all day. He's got a problem. I was the one that brought up sucking off goats, first of all. I meant more about this being an okay movie. I don't know Cabin

It just in comparison to part Three is what we're talking about But Chris is comparing it to zoo Oh right well nothing You know we were beaten by the best boy Yeah nothing compares to you So some people were like Oh my God is your 500th episode

Gonna be a zoo I'm like absolutely not A real man was fucked to death by a horse It's kind of hard to mind for comedy for an extended period of time. Again, the only way, I think we said this before, the only real comedy riff you could get out of that movie is the guy running from the Federaleys

with a bucket of pornography. That's a really good point. Trying to cross the border. Which is a major comedic moment. Absolutely. Also, for posterity's sake, because we played this at the start of the 500 part one, where here's what it sounded like when we introduced that episode.

here's what it sounded like really quickly get out the fucking Muppet babies this is what we sounded like 10 years ago introducing Superman Part 4 Hello everyone I'm Andrew Juppen I am Stephen Sadek Chris Cabin And we hate movies

Man The fucking sands of time Or a cruel mistress dude That was an episode of Chipendale Rescue Range right I was just listening to it's crazy how like when you're born and you grow up a little bit you know you're so full of wonder and vigor and you could really do anything with your life and sometimes you fall into podcasting for a decade you're going to have dual tree of life bits in these episodes that's right there's a theme going on I do feel like there is a thing where like if you ask me maybe say oh I don't know in February like I don't know do you think uh do you think you're a much different person? than you were 10 years ago?

Yeah, I've matured. Now I'm like, oh, absolutely, that man is dead. Whoever that was, is now dead. Totally dude. Because we're in fucking August, dude. Augie doggie. Speaking of Augie doggy, dude, I will say a thing that I feel like, you know, Sidney J. Fury and the production designers here tried to course correct just a bit.

We're trying as best as we can with our fucking Gallum and Globus fucking production budget here. We're trying to recreate the majesty of the opening credits from the first movie. And it's like, it really is the C-team version of that, but it is at least like the names gently flying across the screen.

I don't know. This is like the opening type, like for a recorded dance competition. This is like the intro to that. Sparkle emotions about to come out, you think? This is sub-trauma. This is not good. These credits are pretty much what the last thing John Bonay

Ramsey saw go to a pageant and you get the I thought you were going to say when her brother murdered her that's what he was

watching yeah it was just on the TV right because everyone in the house was so excited that Lex Luther

was back I know I was I do think I was in the house with them the Ramses God there I do think

at the very least it's not over a very long and arduous and sweaty fucking farcical situation that has nothing to do with anything where in space it feels and very smartly

the Golden Globus people are like hey you know it would be cheap instead of actually rescoring this movie using all of John Williams's music again which is totally absent mostly absent the theme pops up here and there in three and like just kind of reworking it and just paying what we have to pay

him kind of a thing. Yep like let's give him the bare amount so he can't you know legally take action against us and we'll just go from there I will say I do like the title, the thick print there they've got for the font. The quest for peace. Yes, when that pops up, I like that piece better than I like it. Oh, wait, you're talking about when it turns into like it looks like the title card from a comic book itself?

Yeah, I like that. Disagree. I really like that. Because that's my problem with part two is they took all the majestic cinematography from that first movie. And they were like, no, no, no, no, no. We want this movie to look like you're reading. a comic book so it's all flat and garbagey and like the last

thing I want to do is watch a comic book movie and just have it fucking feel like a comic book I'm sorry I mean I think part two is still good despite it having more of a flatter cinematography I didn't even notice what you were saying but I think it makes sense now that I'm thinking about it it's just like it's not

like there's not as much moving camera either it's just like we're putting this motherfucker on a tripod we're filming it from three angles at the same time it all looks flat as fuck a couple two shots you know i guess that's because uh comic books influenced everything kevin smith learned how to frame a shot from comic books so yeah yeah i can see that it just doesn't make for his interesting cinematography uh so this movie starts off with a cosmonaut singing french frank sinatra

and he gets fucking jacked in the face by a rogue satellite i will say for as cheap as this movie is this sequence looks good am i nuts yeah you're not everything else looks like absolute ass because You know what doesn't look good, Steve? What's that? Superman helping the Soviet Union? Wait, what? Oh, man, Superman? Come on, they're supposed to be the enemy.

Oh, Superman. I bet that's part of was Reeves, like, cut in the script. It was like, originally Superman was going to blow them all away with his laser eyes. And then he's like, no, no, no, no, no. This has to be about peace. Yeah, because this is very much Superman. and Christopher Reeve, who are the same person to me. Christopher Reeve does absolutely despised Superman 3, making it really like went on a fucking...

I do love these, like, nuclear publicity tours, actors used to go on in the 80s. Oh, yeah. You hear about Margot Kidder talking shit about... Like, now nobody talks shit about movies. Like, actors don't. Like, producers, directors still get into it, but I feel like actors do not go nuclear on movies like they used to in the 80s. Well, it's because of the internet, dude. I mean, back then, you're on a press tour.

You go on fucking Good Morning America or whatever. and you're talking about Superman 3, like, well, you know, aside from the weirdos that are taping morning television or something, like, you could say whatever the fuck you want, it would be largely forgotten, like, by the next week or something like that. But I've got to say, call to actors out there. If you want to talk shit about past productions, WHM podcast is your fucking goal, man. Just the We All Hate Movies at gmail.com. Send us your problems. But he almost didn't come back, but then he, you know, the Salkins bounce and he's like, well, I like that. he was given like script approval and all sorts of story credit and all this shit so he came back with this movie and he was a bit more but then he wound up painting it as well he still that's the funniest part about it is he made this whole stink about like i need fucking say over what happens in the story and this that the other thing and then he was still like you know what after all that it was a real pile of shit too is that is he just like changing face because of the reviews well i think it was also the thing of the budget got slashed at half so like and this movie didn't wind up being the movie he kind of expected it to be like there's so much

deleted material you can read about like and like not just deleted scenes but stuff they just couldn't even shoot and blah blah blah so you can kind of see that well also like the writing should have been on the fucking wall man I'm sorry you're getting into bed with the canon group of course the bottom

was going to fall out of something okay Chris Chris what if in this movie instead of the question piece he goes to I don't know a South American country where drugs are being smuggled and he gets a machine gun and now he's just killing everyone. Is that, that's not good? Arhush, in the jungle and then guess what?

Chris, how about this? While he's in the South American jungle, uh-oh, there's some ninjas too. Ninjas with machine guns, Chris, how does that sound? That sounds amazing. Chris, Chris, what if he's a break dancing, right? He's break dancing. What if, how about this, Chris, Chris, listen to this. What if Superman de-flowering?

is the last American virgin it's just like you gotta know man when your fucking check is being signed by Canon there's probably going to be an issue in the production like they should they should not have they should not have scooped up the rights to a massive

comic book IPO like this now let me ask you are you sure that he has laser vision and can't just throw dynamite how about that we got all these squibs I mean that's the first thing we do at the beginning of every year, the canon group buys 2 million scripts.

And whatever we have left over, we just put in the end of one of the movies. So Chris Reeves got script approval, didn't like what was going on. So we fired him and got Chuck Norris and now just Superman toss his dynamite. Chuck Norris in a blue shirt. And he did not shave the beard.

Oh, absolutely not. No, that's what I'm a dynamite man. I'm here to stop you, Superman. This is kind of, this whole sequence is kind of like a nice post-opening credits cold open, though. Because it's still like you're on a sound stage. That's the other thing, Steve. I think it looks good because this is all soundstage stuff. And we're not trying to do as much animation, like him flying over bad backdrops. Like Chris, you said it's like the intro to like a dance competition.

I was thinking too, so much of the effects in this movie look like the just garbage videos you see on karaoke machines. We're just like a fucking field, like a dewy field and the sun is setting, and you're singing fucking live in Lovita Loka for some reason. That's what this shit looks like. It's real cheap, man. Superman saves this guy, of course, after he gets hit in the face with the satellite. But it is kind of cool. I mean, again, like, what we're trying to do is like Superman is not an American hero.

He's going to save the Soviets. You know what I mean? I think that's very much what kind of Chris Reeve was kind of getting at you. Wait a second. And he speaks Russian. I'm throwing stuff at the screen. Oh, my God, Superman's speaking something other than English. Well, fuck that.

What a nerd. See, back in those days, at least the Not My Superman T-shirts were homemade and were kind of cool looking. It wasn't just like a branded merchandise site. It's just SJW stuff having them save the Russians. Yeah, and the Reddit was, you. you yelling in your toolshed to no one. Star Trek having Chekoff. There's just SWJ stuff.

I can't even smell. Reddit was just a zine back then. Totally. So we're back in Smallville. There's a lot of Smallville that's being sold and developed and whatnot. Excuse me, Mr. Reeve. Harry Crumfingers, Reddit, Reddit zine here. Quick question about Superbent.

Why is she not helping only Americans? Is it true or not true? that Superman helps out pedophiles. Please talk it to the microphone, please. Mr. Superman, talk to the microphone, please. Sir, sir, sir, quick question, quick question. Is Superman cucked? Is he a cuck? Good question, sir, sir. Sir, cuck.

Superman, in your last adventure, I noticed that you took all the white people to prison and the black men got to go free. Do you care to comment on that, Superman? Anything? You want to say anything about that? What's anything about that at all, Superman? And what do you say about the allegations that you were one of the founding members, wayfair Oh, those

people. That's how they get the speedy shipping is Superman. I'm sorry. You were saying something about the movie Superman for the Quest for Peace. Oh, no, I was just saying that he's trying to sell his fucking dead mother's house. I mean, again, the first like 20 minutes of this movie, I'm like, hey, is this good? Because I like this weird performance he's doing where he's not

quite doing the clarket masquerade he's just kind of like Superman and glasses kind of a thing like yep I mean smallville has turned into a Springsteen song it also kind of looks like Silent Hill

when he finds it when he first finds it there's like fog a lot in the background I was a little spooked getting in my truck driving down to the high school there's where I got bullied a lot fighting a bunch of monsters

made up of eyeballs and tongues. I think that's what's in Silent Hill. I don't know. Remember when I kicked that football to space? And I went bowling with the high school bully. My son Joe found an alien baby. It was just naked, dick all out and stuff. Lifted up a car.

I don't know how. I'm just living in small Ville. Father dropped dead of a heart attack I gave him. Yeah, that could all definitely work for an original Superman Force soundtrack. Zod was a dick, but none was a pretty good guy. Wow, really nice. Maybe. He looks a nice guy.

Yeah, I bet if you get to know him. Yeah, it's, yeah, he's trying to sell his, parent's farm, which is, again, like, it's nice to at least, I mean, it's not the same set at all, but like at least it's sort of like Well, they at least got the layout right, which I was actually, like, if you're facing the house in this movie, the

barn is to the left, it's the exact same layout as the first movie, which is kind of neat. Yeah, it does. This guy comes over to try, you know, he's like the real estate agent and he wants to push the property to a developer to make a shopping center of some kind. Right.

Clark is like, hey man, how about you only sell this to a farmer if, you know, the agreement has to be they're going to keep this a working farm and this dude's just like, Kent, we don't need farms anymore. Who's fucking farming? What good is a farm ever done anyone?

You can't grow a can of, uh, spaghettios? It's the 80s. That's what we eat all the time. I appreciate this angle that he takes, but also I don't like the, uh, the bad talking, uh, of malls. He says no malls and I'm like, please, sir, don't.

don't disparage my people seriously my mall people i was raised in a fucking mall what are you doing to me uh remember those remember public space totally dude they um but he does uh the guy is like trying to and i love how everyone in the entire town including this grown adult has to bully clark ken because he's like hey kid how about we do a little uh baseball here and he's like i don't want to fucking what are you talking about but again like this is like it's so dumb that he forces himself to humiliate himself this much because like this fucking old piece of shit is like better up clerk and like goes to throw the ball and like he's got to like whiff and almost spin around and fall over like just hit it gently enough that it's like wow look at that mr realtor a home run I guess I should have been on the baseball team okay you know who this is this has got to be Ben Hubbard oh I see This has got to be Ben Hubbard and he survived Martha. Oh, the fucking dude that was slinking around trying to fuck the mom.

Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Again, see our episode tomorrow to get that joke. But, you know, Clark is asking for it here because he's giving him a baseball paraphernalia. I guess it's a glove. Yeah, catchers. For his grandkids or whatever. So that sparks the, let's throw the ball around.

Totally. I also, I thought this is Michael Parks for a second. I was like, holy shit. Oh, no, it's not. Wow, dude, if that was Michael Parks and what is this, 1987? Fuck. There is kind of a nice line here where the guy goes, he's talking about, like, you know, Clark Living in Metropolis or whatever, and he has a line to him.

It's a long, long way from where you were born. And it's like, ah, it's kind of nice. Okay, how about that? Just stop humiliating yourself. He goes into the barn. This actually happens before the guy comes because he has to hide this fucking glowing rod in his, it is of 1980s vests. Dude, god damn it.

The baby ship is still there? The baby ship is still there. I don't know. So he opens, he's noticing the barn. He's like, well, you know, before I sell this barn, I should get my alien paraphernalia out of here. Totally. Did my parents keep that spacecraft? Uh, yeah.

It's, yeah, it is. Oh, damn. Looks like kids been drinking and fuck it in my spaceship. Come in, vomit, and come. Just piles and piles of dead kids who snuck into the bar. trying to party with the K-hole. Just, oh, man, this is awesome. Just, let's go fuck under this barn.

My only son, Calais, let me tell you about Albert Einstein's theory of relativity. How do you turn this radio off? Who's that fat guy? Does this thing get chubby checkers? Ah, yes, chubby checkers. Musical act, something, something. I believe it was just a singular checker there, John. Oh, I see.

Yeah. Checkers is the fast food chain. Delicious. Oh, I guess I meant what, chubby chess. There you go. Oh, my God. Chubby battleship.

Chubby trouble. Chubby trouble is quarantine, dude. Oh, you're not wrong. That is the title for our quarantine screenplay. This absolutely is the late show. We recorded the first episode about three hours ago for episode three. now we're on Superman 3

now we're on Superman 4 it is the late show and we are just hanging out Oh it's gonna be a solid hang right now dude I've been drinking a lot It's great we're having a great time talking about Superman 4 the Quest for Peace He uh he finds his ship Yeah uh under there

And he finds another you're another big green crystal This bad dragon crystal thing he's got This big dildo It's fucking hilarious though It's like the recording of the mother comes on Because like you weren't getting brand anymore but this lady will come back and she's like

all right now Superman this one is definitely the last chance for you to reset your life we had one before and you were able to grow the fortress of solitude but I swear this is the last extra alien crystal that is in the spaceship use it wisely you've now

done two out of two alien crystals they're both in your inventory oh man I love doing these alien crystals oh gets so fucked up on Kryptonite. Oh, amen. Smash it up so we can sniff it up.

And she's like, hey, look, if you ever use this, you will lose contact with Krypton forever, but it'll do basically anything you needed to do, just an FYI, wink, wink, hope you don't need it this movie. Yeah, totally. He literally just puts it in his back pocket. Dude, it is the funniest thing. I think there's like a jacket hanging on a pole or something. And the realtor shows up and he's like, oh, fuck, better hide this huge fucking crystalline

dildo, and he puts it in this front pocket of the jacket, and it's still just like sticking out and glowing and stuff? Clark, is that a glowing rod in your pocket, or you're happy to see me? Yes. Hey, Clark, I can't help but feeling like I'm getting cancer right now.

Clark is weird whenever I come visit you on this property, my hair and teeth fall out. I feel like my blood is sweating, Clark. I don't know how I was to say it. Oh, God, that is a real ailment. Sweaty blood.

What did he die from? Sweaty blood. Oh, God. But I kind of like this angle, and it goes nowhere because we'd ever see the, I mean, it's only just to give this, this dildo to Clark, but it's not, you know, I would like at the end, maybe he finds another farm or maybe Clark decides, you know, I'm going to, I'll just keep this up on the weekends. It'll be my weekend home.

I'll do farm it on the week. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of something that would be something. Of course. I mean, you know, like, we want to get a place in the country, have like a little weekend place kind of a thing like that's what superman should really be building this up to it's like you own it dude you can get there in fucking two seconds by the way just like weekend on the farm you get a lot of exercise till in the fields and stuff grow some hemp exactly keeping that shit

under a fucking camouflage thing so the feds don't bother you and if they do i could just kill them all exactly oh and then Superman just successfully becomes like smallville's weed slinger absolutely yep totally and he's just fucking chilling like, oh man, like you want to go out to the Kent farm and hang with Clark for a little bit when we re-up. And it's just like Superman, like sitting on the couch, like, oh, come on in, man. I'm just about to fire one up. He's fucking watching cartoons. He's cereal. And now suddenly Brad doesn't have an alcoholism problem anymore because he also has a drug problem. Well, he's able to kick the booze because he's just on the flower, man. At least that's not going to kill him. My only son,

Calell. You cannot interfere in the course of human events by growing such, such, dank weed. These human beings are fragile, Calaisal. They are not able to take this sticky, icky, dank shit we had here on Krypton. My, the crystals.

Your weed shouldn't have more crystals than the ship. Man, just digging into some sticky crystalline goo. Love it. Oh, so then we cut to a rock quarry and here, of course, back in the franchise is Lex Luthor, Gene Hackman himself.

I guess the idea is after he's left behind in the prison in the second movie, Otis just fucking dies in jail. Yep, I think so. We're not bringing Ned Beatty back for these movies. God damn it, what a mistake. He got ganged by, you know, a shiv like 500 times in

the chest. Seriously, man. I see it more as, like, I think that Luthor clearly traded him for some smokes. Yep. I think that That's more likely ultimately, dude. Totally. I guess he sold him for whatever bullshit quote unquote wig he's wearing in this movie.

Is this a wig or is just his hair? I think this is hack hair, Steve. Oh, no, it's always been hack hair. But the joke is that it's supposed to be the Lex Luthor wig because he's supposed to be totally bald. No, I know. But in this movie, though, I'm saying like, because in the first movie, Gene Hackman refused to shave his head so the gag was like, you're going to wear wigs. And that's why in the beginning of the second movie, he is at.

bald because they were like hey man he's not going to have a fucking wig in prison but in this movie it's just jean hackman's like totally balding head and like you can see through it it's really bad they don't even have a bald cap scene at all no which is no he just said no to that they're like oh and then you'll wear a but he's like nope nope they're like you know what this is the fourth superman movie it's being produced by fucking canon like yeah you're just going to have your real head of hair jean that's fine it's kind of amazing they got them back Yeah, what is the story there? Has anybody read anything about what attracted him back?

I mean, it's nine years after the first movie. He's fucking Gene Hackman. Like, he didn't have to do this. He said something, something that he was, he probably would have done part three. Because the whole story was like, oh, he was pissed at the Salkins like Margot Kidder was, which he was.

He talked a lot of shit because everybody loved Richard Donner. Yeah. But the thing is, he was like, oh, no, I never had a real problem with them. But then once they left the franchise, I was like, oops, I'm available again. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Has anyone, like, is there another instance of a cast standing up for a terminated director like this before? No, I mean, usually not. James Gunn. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's true. Actually, that's true. I guess so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Paul Rudd left, left Edgar right in the dust. So he's in there, you know, breaking rocks and whatnot. And we are introduced to Lenny Luthor. Here's John Cryer doing this California. accent. This is poochy, man. It is totally poochy. And I, I think John Cryer is a good guy. It's nothing against John Cryer. This just fucking sucks. Well, I don't know him personally. So for all I know, he's the worst motherfucker on this planet. Oh, come on. He seems like a nice guy. He doesn't seem to be saying the words he's saying. Well, there's a lot of bad ADR in this movie. It seems like it's most of it, though. Like most of what he's saying just is like, oh, ho. You know what? You probably played it more real. realistically, and then they just had him come in and do ADR to make it more California. Yeah, you could be right. I mean, because clearly this is not how John Cryer sounds. It's a this but stupider. This but stupider sounding from your gut.

From your gut, you make it stupider. Here's the thing, though. I think you're on to something there because, again, we are dealing with canon. We're fucking cheap as balls. I have a feeling they may have made this movie like they make movies in Italy. Like, they just did not record any live sound and fucking dubbed the whole thing.

I mean, there's so much bad ADR in this movie. It would not surprise me to learn that. You're right. Canaan is they're always balls cheap. Like, you've heard of balls deep. Yeah, totally. Because they're fucking balls deep and cheapness. I do think, well, because

all the scenes with Jeremy, the kid who will introduce a little bit is totally ADR. It's like some fucking voice, 40 year old voice actor doing, I'm a little boy. That is not him. And also the teacher in that scene is the woman from

Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's dead previous episode What the Christine Applegate's boss? No, the scheming woman that wants to get her fired. David DeCovine's partner. Gotcha, okay.

And she's the teacher and in that movie and I've seen her another movie too, she's got not a deep voice but a deeper voice but in that classroom scene it's like, hello, I'm your teacher.

Hello, hi! And it's just, I don't know if they reddub the actress or what, or maybe she was doing a voice, it's just very strange to me. The fact that ADR shows up so much in the canon movie, I know it's probably because of just like, the equipment's

not good. But like, I always just imagine just Gohan and Globus were actually doing all the voices. They're just brilliant voice actors, but they never told anybody because they just did it for this. Well, because, I mean, it totally makes sense because it's cheaper. Like, that's why people do it. Like, you don't have

to record live sound. You're outside for a lot of this. I mean, a lot of this is sets also. But, like, either way, it's cheap as fuck. to just like not do anything, just roll camera, have them do it and then record it later. Right, and also for the Italians, you know, they did it because they would have actors from all different parts of the world.

Exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it didn't matter and they just dubbed him. So, you know, here's Cryer. He comes in with this fucking, you know, crazy decked out, I'm trying to say catalog, convertible. That's the word I'm looking for. Oh, this thing is so fucking stupid.

It's got the surrounder sound or whatever. these fucking horns sticking out of the car that have speakers on them that shove them like right into your ear pretty much. The window is a speaker. Yeah, it looks like I would not want to take a ride in this car. That's for sure.

And these fucking like prison guards are like, hey, you can't be driving around here and he's like, oh, but hey, look at my pretty cool car. You want to sit in it and take a ride. Geez, we're both stupid. Yeah, sure we'll do that. Let's just do that.

We're fucking morons. Come on, get out of there. Kid, let us in. Hey, do you have no brain in your head, Jimmy? Yeah, neither do I. Let's get in the car. Well, they do work for an American Department of Corrections, so odds are they're stupid assholes. Oh, fan theory here, by the way, now that I'm realizing that Luther is on this chain gang, right?

And, you know, he's whistling Mozart and everyone's making fun of him. What if, you know, Ned Beatty, Otis's ultimate demise is he got in a hard-boiled egg eating contest with George George Kennedy and had a massive heart attack. Oh, I could see it. I could totally see that. Oh, can I have just one more egg, Mr. Luthor? 406. Yes, keep going, Otis.

I got a lot riding on this one. It's like the scene in Raiders where they're doing shots, but it's eggs. Oh, yep, dude. Actually, then it should have been fucking Ned Beatty versus William Hootkins is in this movie. Mr. Luton.

Mr. Luthor, I feel like I'm going to explode. Please, no much. Do it, Otis. But it hurts. It hurts. Oh, Mr. Luto, I think my stomach's bleeding. I got too many eggs in me, Mr. Lutto. I'm like a chicken.

Luther would say something like glib about Humpty Dumpty then, man. Then push them off a cliff or something. Totally. Speaking of getting pushed off a cliff, John Cryer gets these two guards to get in this car, and then he remote controls, like, seals them in it, and drives it off a cliff. And I'm sorry, but these dudes are a,

thousand and ten percent dead here and you see them crawl out of the little crevasse yeah covered in like dust and soot it's like loony tunes oh no when it happens you're like oh cool lenny luther fucking kills i like this and it's like oh no it doesn't yep this also this is like a classic cannon cut because you don't see any explosion like you just see the car go off screen then they you hear an explosion and then just a plume of black smoke like you just lit up a campfire, not like a huge explosion fire. Yeah, dude, canon films, we are cutting corners

wherever we can. If you listen to that explosion, you can hear Chuck Norris in the background a little bit. There's some helicopter blades. So, it turns out, Lenny shares Uncle Lex's bloodthirst for destroying

Superman, which they say at the same time as the idea. And so Lex Luthor again is free from jail thanks to his nephew which is god damn it i know he said it's poochie but it's also just like when that fucking caveman hung out on duck tails

yeah yeah oh whatever that little fucker was what was that guy's deal he's a piece of shit they went back in time in one episode and you better believe it was humans and dinosaurs living together and then they fucking brought this little cave duck back with them and he was just friends with them

that's insane it's totally insane like you you might wiped out generations worth of people. Scrooge McDuck doesn't care dude. He was going to make a fucking fortune bringing dinosaurs into the present day. Oh God, that's terrible. That's fucking disgusting. It is

dude. Scrooge McDuck is a villain. We've discussed this before. But we will again, for sure. The way my life is going, I'll be talking about Scrooge Duck well into my 40s. I am a 36-year-old man talking about Superman 4 for the second

time. Of course. Whatever, dude. We love what we do. You know what? Episode 1,000, we'll just do this again. Oh, yes. That's it. We're pushing 50 talking about Superman for. Maybe that's a problem, sure.

I do think, but speaking of the last time we did this, I do remember we gave a little special attention to this, but it's too funny not to mention again, just because it's on the IMDB trivia, that John Cryer was kind of excited about this movie because, you know, he had just done pretty in pink, then he's in the new Superman movie, and they finished recording,

They finished filming, and Gene Hackman just pulls him aside. He's like, kid, it's going to be terrible. And he was like, he was heartbroken. Oh, man. I mean, Mr. Hackman knew what was up, man. He knew. Do you know what Golden Globus is? Have you ever seen one of those pictures, kid?

You're in a canon picture now, kid. It's really different. They're still filming Charles Bronson. Just like, and giving them money. It's disgusting. I mean, honestly, John, get out of here. Kid, did you see over the top? I do think we should mention also that John Cryer has come back in recent years as Lex Luthor on that Supergirl shows, which people tell me is pretty good.

Lex Luthor or Lenny? As Lex Luthor. He plays Lex Luthor. Weird. I don't know anything about that, but I do know there appears to be a new, I guess possibly fucked up because of COVID addition to that CW universe. did you see this shit there's a show coming out called Superman and Lois yeah okay fuck is that shit what's that about it's the guy who plays Superman and I assume Lois Lanes on Supergirl as well uh as a spin off and I guess they're doing it they're kind of

just redoing Lois and Clark from the 90s yeah which that's fine because that Dean Cain's a fucking idiot I don't think I ever really watched oh I watched a ton of that show dude sexy what was it sexy not especially I mean, like, Terry Hatcher was attractive as Lois Lane, but Dean Cain was just a fucking idiot back then anyway, just dumb as a sack of whale shit. What the hell were they doing? Workplace comedy?

Yeah, it kind of really was. Yeah, honestly, they were sort of like more of a fun-loving duo. The guy who is the dad and son-in-law played Perry White on the show. Oh, hell yeah, dude. I remember I remember I watched the pilot like five or six years ago drunk out of my mind and I was like this is brilliant you know this

this is how you do super men I'm like talking to my cat this is this is the one Ripley Ripley listen to me listen to me Ripley I think we're going to do that

ourselves tonight like I think we've been talking about Superman we're going to be talking about Superman for six hours today pretty much. Yeah, no, I might continue this. I will say I asked Steve for some recommendations of episodes of Superman the animated series, so I was fucking lit

like a rocket fucking watching some of that last night. I resubscribe to DC Universe or whatever and just fucking get it up. Not too bad. I don't, I will say just as a quick detour here, Steve, you had me watching some shit where there was a Batman crossover

which is rad, but man, I got to tell you, the way that they, it's like, it happens in later season Batman, the animated series when they turned it into Batman and Robin. Yep. They changed the animation style. They make Bruce Wayne look like way younger.

And so he's on the Superman show. He's just drawn completely different. The Joker looks like garbage. The Joker looks like absolute trash. Total trash. And I think that world's finest is awesome just to call it what it is. It's an awesome, awesome crossover. Great way to do Batman versus Superman

unlike other things did. Yeah. How does the Joker look? Because when you say the Joker looked awful, I'm like, hmm, I can think of plenty examples. Well, it's not like that, like, roided out, jacked up Joker that I've seen in certain places, which is absolute mania. Has he cut off his own face and made it his new face? Thank God, no. No, it's, I mean, it's not that bad. He's all white, like, his face. There's no, like, lips on him at all. His eyes are black for some reason. They're very, it's like beady little eyes, too. It's really, he looks so cartoonish. I mean, the same. Grace is, the voice acting through all of it is incredible. Kevin Conroy

is there as Batman and Bruce Wayne, Mark Hamill is there doing the Joker. So, like, it's still totally great, but just it was so, and I've been watching a lot of Batman the animated series recently anyway, so just switching animation styles like that, which just had my brain kind of going places. Clancy Brown is Luther rules, by the way,

FYI. Yes, Clancy Brown voices Lex Luther. It's fucking great. I will say I like the guy who's playing Superman in the Super Real show is Tyler Hachner, I think his name is. He He's in Palm Springs. And everybody wants some. Oh, he's the groom in Palm Springs.

I thought he looked familiar. Yeah, yeah. He's really good. I like it. Anyway, so that was a whole fucking detour. So where are we? Oh, hilariously, a, speaking to taking a Pelham, one, two, three, Steve, a motorman that has like a heart attack or passes out or something driving the subway.

And it's a weird, like, Clark is going to get on and the doors close on them and Lois is in the train car. uh and of course uh it starts barreling down the track this dude's dead dude we posit in that in the episode coming out tomorrow the superman motion picture is that tony todd the grim reaper is final destination in lowest lane and it keeps it keeps going in part four like why else would this guy have a heart attack and not for nothing man this a wild out of control uh subway car is that not the epilogue to final destination three correct it nice it's a heart attack that he recovers immediately. I mean, I don't know that it's a heart attack. The guy's not like, ah, my chest

or anything like that. He just kind of like slumps over and I smell toast. He's saying it over the train radio. Passengers aboard the train, I'm smelling toast. Is anyone else smelling toast? Oh, that's not good. Yeah, God, when he smelled some toast. Oh, so, you know, Superman, yes,

comes in and saves the day, of course. There's a weird like he steps off and he's like Kevin you got this yeah he's like I just want everybody to know that like even though all these people almost just died uh rail system is like the safest way public transportation is the safest way to get around anywhere and it's like the also the most like ecologically conscious I guess yeah it's a weird thing you realize that this movie is it's the superman entry into like what Star Trek for the voice home was doing like this is the environmental movie and it's

not just like an anti-nuke thing but yeah it's also totally pro public transportation like you know hey metropolis citizens you know maybe instead of you know congestion trafficking and downtown we're all taking this totally still safe public transportation train but this again was

definitely you could just smell Reeve cutting and being like okay I get yeah it's a good action sequence but at the end we have to say like it's a captain planet thing we just have to immediately pivot and be like, here's the message, everybody. The more you know, dude, it's like the end of a fucking G.I. Joe episode.

I do think the, it's also a callback to Superman 1 when she falls off the helicopter and he's like, well, Lois, it's a... I mean, it plays much better and it's actually a joke there. It's like, statistically, it is safer to fly than anything else. You know, it's kind of similar to that, but I do think it is also, like,

this movie does have a real... It's got an agenda. Agenda! I want to see his sources Flying in Helicopters? I don't know. Why does Superman have to have an agenda? Is what I'm asking.

I'm a tiny, tiny little racist, Ben Shapiro. I am the size of your shoe. Why we have Superman having to walk around talking about anti-nuclear weapons? I mean, come on. That's what America needs. It's scary that people think like that. It totally is. Speaking of fucking total scumbags in the public eye,

we're introduced to David Warfield. He's a billionaire fuck boy that's just bought out the Daily Planet. Hell yeah. Fuck this, dude, man. What a shit, fuck garbage, nothing character to put in this movie. Played by Sam Wanamaker,

aka, I want my Superman to have a big Zapata massage. Fucking love it, dude. Yeah, Sam Wanamaker himself. And so he's like a fringes on the case. some fringes. I want to have it to look like you just walked out of the sunset strip.

Less hippieish and more Superman. Think Dennis Hopper as Kellellell. Dude, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, totally. I love Dennis Hopper.

He could do it. I would watch him play Superman or Luther. I'm your daddy and I'm about to fucking die here. It'd be great, dude. Oh man, Isabella Rossellini. as Lois Lane.

Totally. Yeah, it's going to be great. And actually, totally counter-thetical. We're going to have Kyle McLaughlin as Lex Luthor. Yeah, you'd think he'd be Superman, but it's a David Lynch Superman movie. So Dennis Hopper is Superman. I'm flipping the script here.

I've actually cast a puppet to play Perry White. Dennis Hopper's got an oxygen chank as Superman over his face, and he's like inserting crypto. night into Lois. Jesus, that's a movie. David Lynch's Superman. But it's just half of it. It looks like blue velvet shot for shot for half of it.

The, who was a director who was apparently signed on and like did some, didn't do some stuff, but like was pre-planning until he got into a row with Christopher Reeve, because he was in a mood that week. Wes Craven. Wow. Oh, weird. That would have been cool probably. It would have been better for sure.

There's just no way around it. Oh, man. Superman was a vampire. Was there a Superman villain that fucking got you in your dream, Steve? Not that I remember. Like, did you have like a cheap like Sandman knockoff or something? Or maybe just set it in Smallville and there's like, you know, their fucking last house on the left type of people. Oh, Jesus.

We never go to that side of Smallville, you know. You know it's there, though. You know it's there. Absolutely, dude. You get out some of those fucking derelict farms, dude. The Hills Have Eyes is actually what I mean to say. Oh, dude. Superman versus Mercury and Jupiter and all those dudes.

Oh, yeah, man. And then Superman. Oh, then you can introduce Super Dog, dude. Crypto, absolutely. Fuck yes. It would way better. That movie, I caught, I want to say the last like 15 minutes of the original

The Hills Have Eyes the other day on Shudder TV. It's kind of a snooze. It's a snooze, but like, The last moments of that movie are truly unsettling. And I was just sitting there like, this is upsetting. So also with David Warfield is his nepotism-loving daughter, Lucy or Lacey Warfield, played by the great Mariel Hemingway. She's a woman with an L name.

Oh, dude, yeah, his boder is really hitting it. Oh, my God, her name starts with an L. it's Lacey and that could be the underwear she's wearing too Well gee Lacey What if I called you Lacey Lane Yeah We need us about alliteration

What if you were Lacey Lorfield I just I need an L here Lacey Lacey Laine This is my friend Lois Lane This is a picture of her What if you looked more like her This is a picture of her

What if you changed your hair a little bit Oh yeah that's right That's what Superman likes yeah yeah oh no i'm flying i'm afraid of heights oh hey lacy warfield here's another thing making it look more like my love lowest lane you know why don't you uh why'd you smoke five packs of cigarettes a day yeah oh the swirl on the bun lacey oh hypnotized ah ah oh fuck superman's vertigo also another great movie yeah but yeah he buys out the paper from under everybody Perry White is not happy with it. It is

funny. Like, Lewis Lidd's like, I'm going on vacation. Like, no, you're not. Yeah, not this time. And so, yeah, his whole idea is like, hey, man, I'm going to turn this into a fucking cheap tabloid rag. And they're like, but no, journalism. Yeah. Lacey,

is it Ivanka Warfield? Is that her name? Yes. Yeah, Alvanka Warfield. Yeah, I think. Ivanka. Oh, yes. I'm David. Warfield. I want to fuck my daughter, Lacey Warfield. Yeah. It's true. It is. It's very

true. So around this time the president gets on the air and he's like you know what? We tried this whole like peace and nuclear dearmament and whatnot but fuck it. We're going to build up our nukes because them Soviets are doing the

same thing. And we cut to this classroom. And this where I'm like, why did the movie go away from Superman? What's going on here? Great question. This little classroom in the middle of nowhere where this teacher's like, oh, you know, so nuclear proliferation is happening here. And what can we do about it? And this little turd, Jeremy's like, why don't we write a letter to Superman? Can I- Jeremy spoken, guys? Can I say that up until this moment, I was actually really tense because I was like, oh, this place is going to blow up or something

because why are we here? Wouldn't that be great? I was just like, or like it's going to be raised for some reason. Oh, like the school was going to be vaporized? Yeah, I was like, wait, something bad's about to happen. If we just cut to this place. Oh, jeez, Mr. Luthor, why am I bombing all these schools? Oh, man.

Otis, you understand how much real estate prices go up after after schools are decimated? Otis, guess what? After you decimate like two of the schools, you can call those Otisberg. Oh, I got you, Mr. Luthor. We could repopulate the earth with our superior seed.

Actually, yeah, you know what? That's a good Lex Luthor plan. Find a bunch of towns and get all the schools out of there because then you could be like all those assholes that are like, you know, just because I own property, why do I got to pay school tax?

I don't have kids in school. those fucking people I mean Luther would win the presidency easily oh in a slide yeah I mean he wins in a landslide in the comic book if I'm remembering correctly he does yeah he's present for a little bit yada yada yada yada

Superman is like oh shit he does write a letter to Superman Lacey Warfield gets it and she's like oh let's throw this in the trash Lois Lane is like you should read this it's really important I do appreciate Margo Kidder doing Lois Lane in this movie again

honestly like yeah again maybe I'm an asshole but like I she cares here but I think you're right she cares just like oh we got this letter from this little kid I think you should read it Clark and the weird part about this movie which is a little unanswered aside from the fact that he totally weird secret secret kisses her again I think this whole movie only works if Lois knows the Clark is Superman all the time I agree yeah because she's just like oh hey Clark why don't you read this letter this little kid wrote to Super man and he's like okay it seems stupid and then i kept on going back and forth in my mind like wait what happened into does she know what is going on well that's the weird thing of like

but you know what they sort of lay out in this movie i guess is like the kiss didn't work the first time or it didn't take wears off or something it would only make sense too it'd be it'd actually be kind of cool she'll she knows it doesn't work but like it's this guy clark but he's superman that's kind of great of him you know it's like keeping him happy like he thinks the secret's safe that's fine she knows it will be safe with her I'm gonna have to kiss you some more to make you forget oh man yeah

but so she he reads this letter and it's like oh my goodness I'm little boys writing to Superman what if Superman could just read the world of nuclear weapons hmm oh my and then like Lacey Warfield's like oh that's a great story to fuck over that Superman piece of shit

so she runs it which is run as Superman the kid drop dead because he doesn't do it Oh, yeah, it's so great. Mimicking, of course, the famous headline, yes, Ford to New York dropped dead. So while this is all happening,

fucking Gene Hackman and John Cryer are breaking into the museum to find... Oh, God, yeah. Is it a metropolis museum or is it a Superman specific museum? I think it's a Superman-specific museum. I think it's like a museum of Superman. And I don't know how, what

kind of talks went into getting Gene Hackman to look like he's playing the basis for the specials. I don't know how that happened. I really am mystified. I think in the plot he's just wearing Lenny's clothes. I guess. He's got his bomber jacket,

this hat, these sunglasses. I was like, is he wearing Lenny's clothes or is he trying to disguise himself as a stupid-looking tourist? I think that's what it's supposed to be. He's like, I'm just going to look like an asshole tourist here. Yeah, I don't do it. Yeah. Then he stomped by Owen Wilson as a little cowboy and all the other guys from those movies that I didn't watch.

Oh, Night of the Museum. I thought you were talking about the Royal Tenen Bounds. I think Robin Williams is like Roosevelt or maybe Custer. He's Teddy Roosevelt in that movie because of course the big Teddy Roosevelt statue outside the museum of natural history. Of course. Well, R. A P to that. Yeah. Fuck that. Tear it down if you haven't already. so so clark is fucking pissed off about this headline and flies off to the fortress of solitude these elders have to return and they're they're different actors it's not the same guys yes but like what is the deal here exactly they're all yelling betrayed betrayed i don't know i mean it's like the

fucking it's the one station you get at the fortress of solitude he just went there to watch the met game and it's like oh fuck no it's just like he asked them like can i pretty please read the world by this planet of nuclear weapons like oh you can go to a different planet doesn't have nuclear weapons there's so many that are

more advanced than Earth or and no if you were to do this you would betray us betray betray right okay give me that movie give me Superman hanging out on an earth like planet that is like super advanced and we just get like a sci-fi

Superman I'm into it it'd be kind of neat I'd be down to see what that looks like I'm just so fucking tired of Metropolis Metropolis. Me to Metropolis, drop dead. Oh, this is the, oh, this is the, we have a fucking scene where you see how Clark Kent lives. I got to tell you, man, I'd be sort of worried, like, you see this apartment. It's like, this is not a reporter's apartment, man. You got Superman money in this house. I don't know what's going on.

It's nice, dude. It's a fucking, it's kind of amazing that's been four movies and we were finally seeing his apartment. Maybe that was part of Christopher being like, I think finally we should see, I don't know, Clark gets fucking apartment maybe. I don't know. See how he lives? Yeah, totally. Also, it's kind of hilarious

because he's got all this sports parent finale from varied teams. There's a Tampa Bay Buccaneers banner. There's a New York Giants thing somewhere else. I'm like, what is this guy up to? Yeah, is this, maybe those are souvenirs from like, oh, these are professional sports teams I've saved when their plane engines

winning out or... Oh, totally. There was a fucking terrorist threat to the stadium. or some shit, like sudden death. You see, we make him sports fan. Yeah. Big American spot fan. It's, well, it's so fucking phony baloney, man, because, like, if you want to have,

like, the Smallville Rockets or whatever, like, that's cool or the metropolis, whatever the fucks. But, like, if you're doing what he's doing right here and you have no, like, tie to that region or that university, like, when someone is a fan of, like, a huge fan of, like, a college football team, but they never attended that school. What are you doing? When you have no connection to that school at all, what are you doing?

The college football thing, I think, is big in the south because what they don't have, certain states don't have teams at all. Yeah. Like Alabama, Mississippi. Yeah, it's just, it's always been silly to me. Anyway, so he's hanging around. He is, he's like watching the news, I think. He's watching, that's right.

He's watching like the Russian premiere like give an address where he's like, Hey, by the way, I heard what your shithead president had to say about nukes. Well, guess what? Russia's right there. The USSR is right there, baby. And Lois shows up. They're about to go to some gala of some kind.

And she's like, you're not ready. He's like, I don't feel very much like going. And they wind up having this nice scene where, or nice for a second anyway, where they go on a, they go for a walk on this amazing fucking patio. My God. That's what I was talking about specifically, man. This is like a high-rise apartment. this this this this this this patio appears to take up like a quarter of the outside of the building

but lowest lane's got a fucking patio too so I don't know I mean I think it's a fucking daily planet I mean when when they're talking about the the the planet hasn't made money in three years this is why look how you're paying your reporters totally dude your reporters should not be making fucking six figures here shit seven like seven figures Jesus Christ with this shit and they're talking and he kind of reveals again that he's Superman to her and she's like oh I've never forgotten and he's like oh really interesting it's just

so insane like he's like oh you know I need to get some fresh air like that's why they go out there and then he's like you know what Lois things are just so tough sometimes and he goes to like just jump off the building like he makes her think she's about to commit suicide and she's

like Clark no please you're my only friend please don't kill yourself and he's like oh you're coming with me Lois and like pulls her off the fucking building they both fly down and then they fly up again and i'm like dude that is the fucking worst way to tell this woman you are superman she may she may not remember every time like something like this happens but every time that shock happens it's a strain to her heart you guys understand that keeps on happening like six seven times she's out of here man and she's a confirmed

heavy smoker dude you can't be fucking around like that can't just be fucking surprising people in such a way? My God. Well, Lois, like I should didn't realize I was a family annihilator. We're both going to hell tonight, Lois. They do a really, really, this is where I had the thought about the karaoke video. This

fucking trip around the world they do, get out of town. I'm in Delaware. Here I am. In Delaware. Actually, dude, Steve, you are not far off because my favorite line in this sequence is they're flying around and you see the Golden Gate Bridge and then you just hear Superman go,

look at that and it just cuts to a shot of San Francisco look at that and then they just keep going didn't it didn't you hear when he said come on you want to lay me we do get a reprise of can you read my mind because we're just like paying John Williams what like hey look dude you made that music totally he fucking chucks her through the air right here he's like what the fuck are you doing it's insane he's like he's like hey Lois you're ready and she's like what and he fucking throws this woman through the air and she's like, well, I guess I'm thinking

I'm going to die again. What did she say? I love it. He throws her so hard, like her skin comes off and fits him in the face while she's just barreling through the air. Gelo is like just got hit with your skin. Oh, it's just so, so,

so bad. But yeah, the end of it is she admits she's like, yeah, I remember the whole thing motherfucker that kissed in work. I don't know what you were trying there. seems like an obscure Superman power that you had back in the 40s that no one really remembered and they fucking jug up for no reason. Yep.

It's just wild as fuck, dude. And like, so, oh, the thing I wanted to point out about when they're kissing right here, though, they have a little smooch going on. Hell yeah. And the way, the camera is over Christopher Reeve's shoulder looking at Margot Kidder. And dudes, did you see,

you can just tell, you can see the fucking stitching on the S on his cape right here. It's the cheapest. Yeah. You'd be embarrassed if this was your Halloween costume as a kid. It's a mom iron on is what it is. Yes, totally.

Mom made my fucking Superman Halloween costume, dude. Look at that shit. Don't worry about the camera very bad. Camera be out of focus all the time. Chris, Chris, he's going to look great on cinema, I promise. Chris, Chris, we'll put the colors on in post. We put the colors on the post. Chris, good job firing West Graven, by the way.

Excellent idea, Chris, Chris. but I guess so the thing is so is this just like a kiss or is this another like I got to re-up the fucking forget me juice low as you're starting to remember shit I think it's the latter because she kind of then plays it for at least the rest of this scene oh right because she's frozen just like the last time yes and she's like oh okay and I do think that yeah I think that I don't know what the movie is supposed to make you think but the only way this movie makes sense is if she's like okay so I'll pretend to be frozen now because this guy's gonna keep thinking he has this magic power which he totally does not have oh yeah i don't remember the last couple of days clark what a good kiss you gave me because she's because he fucking does that she's frozen he runs in and changes into clark kent in a tuxedo and comes back out and then she comes out of it and she's like clark oh right what am i doing out here oh you wanted to get some fresh air right and he's like yeah yeah fresh air right yeah let's like go to this gala now yeah uh we don't see whatever that galley by the way what's that

Just creep city, dude. You can't be doing that. Oh, for sure. He's fucking, yeah. Fucking low side, it's just like, I don't know why I'm so, like, anxious and, like, need to sit down for a while. I don't know why that is, but, like, we have to stay here for a little bit, Clark. I'm sorry.

Clark, I can take a seat. It fucking feels like I was thrown through the air. My shoulder feels really sore. Like, hanging from something? I have the vaguest memory of falling off your balcony. I feel like I've aged five years emotionally. in like the last five minutes I don't know why. Clark, call me crazy

but in any time in the last few months did you try to fucking kill yourself jumping off this balcony? There's an image of you jumping off this balcony. This is where fucking Jeremy comes to town and Jimmy's fucking taking photos of him and shit and Superman shows up

like, oh hey you little piece of shit you thought I didn't care, huh? Well, here I am. I love Jimmy's line here like, what a scoop! What a scoop! take these photos scoop scoop alert well jeremy is an unaccompanied minor i don't know who brought this kid to metropolis i think fucking daddy warfield just had they fucking bought this kid off of mrs mama jeremy or whatever i mean like there needs to be someone to watch this child other than jimmy fucking olson uh so superman's like hey jimmy

or hey jeremy you thought i was uh full of shit huh watch this i'm gonna go address the u n you'll little turd do do do and he goes and gives this impassioned speech there's kind of a nice moment where he's like he goes up to the you know like the director of the u.n or whatever and he's like madam speaker i would you know like to dress the council and she's like well okay superman but since you're not tied to any country like you need a sponsor it's kind of cool that like everyone in the audience raises their hand that's that's my favorite thing in the when they're walking id like every security guard dude badge is about to go for their gun they're like Oh, wait, yeah.

Oh, he's a god. That's a god. Oh, that's a god. Okay. He'll kill us instantly if we try to mess with him. Hi, hi, come walk right in, I guess. Yeah, sure. And he does, but it is kind of this weird thing where he's like, as of today, I will, I

have now decreed as God of Earth. We are no longer having nuclear weapons. So eat shit. And everyone's like, I guess we got to get rid of nuclear weapons. Superman said so. But you know who objected was the ambassador from Iran, the Joker. Oh, that'd be something, folks. that would be something dude

I feel like the jokers also addressed the UN at some point over the years In a comic he was actually the ambassador from Iran Oh is that right yes yeah Because of how you know How we looked at Iran Yes The late 80s

I told us a hola dude Training our children to also hate Dany foreign entities Does that the author of that Does his name rhyme with rank iller No it does not No no I don't think Was it death in the family

Steve? That was death in the family. You're correct. Which is good. It's actually really good. Oh, wait. Fucking the Joker being the ambassador to Iran and the UN is from death in the family? Yeah. I've read Death and Family. I guess I just do not remember that part. It was really silly.

I mean, he was wearing like a top hat and everything. Written by Jim Starlane by the way. Well, at least it was a fucking top hat he was wearing if you know what I'm saying. No, it wasn't a top hat. He's wearing... Oh, fuck. He is wearing the... You're right. It just flooded it back to me. Yeah, he's wearing a

turban on his head. Yeah, not great. That's great. So he gives this whole speech out, the earth is my home too, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it's just like, here's the thing. This is where I was like, I am really fed up with how cheap this movie looks.

There is the shot of Superman, he's flying to grab a nuke. Like, there's some submarine or some shit that fires a nuke. And Superman like flies like over the crest of the earth. to get it and whatever and it's the classic shot we've had in all these movies Superman flying directly at the camera except this time it's all put out with

cannon money and he's out of focus the entire time yes Christopher Reeve is not in focus in the first I think it's the first of these Superman shots in the movie of Superman flying at the camera you can't even fucking see the twinkle in his eye right so cheaply made I got a question about these nukes being fired are are these governments like oh we better get a nuclear war in under the wire. Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know why we're just firing these things, willy-nilly. Is that how

they're getting rid of them? I ask Superman will find it. Just throw it out by shooting it. The fucking nuclear weapon alley-oops, you think? Well, Superman's like, listen, I'm not going to go all the way to your country. Why don't you meet me halfway? I'll pick you up at the airport. That kind of anything. Right, right.

Whose line can we set up as a hot line for them to tell us where the missiles are going to be? Does the vice president have a line? Let's let the vice president. Yeah, yeah. How about And he puts them in a big old dumb net. Yep, this big old Superman net we got from God knows where. Yeah, exactly. Who's making that net?

Because that net can hold hundreds of nuclear missiles. That's a huge net. That's something that was crafted on Olympus. That's the only way that thing makes any fucking sense. You know what I mean? Unless maybe the supercomputer happened and Gus Gorman made it. But also, like, not only is it a net that has to like hold all these nukes, it's a net that Superman has to be able to take through Earth's atmosphere without burning up.

So what is this fucking net, man? Don't talk about, don't worry about what happens in space, guys. Not in this movie. I know. It is clear in this movie that what I'm complaining about right here is not the dumbest thing to happen in space in this movie. We'll get to that. But like, you know, I don't know. It's just a big dumb net.

Look, I don't know where we're going to get a net that big for Superman to put all the nukes. Well, you know what? You know what, Andro the Giant has a hammock. But I like to relax. Andre, you've got to help us. Listen, he's totally drunk. We'll just have Zoom in, gently get him out of there. I'll pass out a 29 bottle of wine.

Okay, here's the deal. You can have my net and throw it in the sun, but you're going to give him back to me. He's just sleeping in like a pile of hay. somewhere. Yeah, and he throws, I don't know, a hundred nuclear weapons at the sun, sure. At the sun and it just goes, boop. I have to imagine that would

be a bigger issue. Yeah, I think the Earth would become the next krypton. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh shit, dude. Now the sun is way out of whack. Thanks a lot, Superman. Fucking piece of shit. This is when Lex Luzer has his plan. He's like, okay, if he's going to keep hock and

nukes at the sun, we could actually use it to our advantage, and we'll use this protoplasum. whatever the fuck he calls it that I got from Superman that I've extracted from his hair plus this costume so that this fucking monster

isn't born naked, sure and attach it to a nuke once it hits the sun, boom. By the way, this would be the second nuclear man because apparently there was and I think they filmed some of it

there was a first nuclear man who was bizarre looking that Superman fights and defeats and they just cut in the movie. Was he also played by Christopher Reeve? No, I think it was it was Mark Pillow again the guy who plays nuclear man. I think

there's, but basically the idea is like Lex Luther keeps throwing nuclear men at him kind of a thing. Oh, oh, oh, I see. You know, a bizarreo like color way on this guy would have made a lot more sense to me. Just would have made all the difference in the world. Again, like, just tip your hat to

the people in the audience that kind of care. Especially because like the way that the costume is designed is so arbitrary. It's like Lenny Luther is like, hey and I have some golden black spandex Uncle Lex. And, like, then his suit is just golden black.

Like, God. And there is some horseshit Lex Luthor line where, like, Lenny says something about, like, oh, man, Uncle Lex, you have to design a costume or something like that. And he's like, no, the computer will do all the work. And I was like, well, fancy that. By the way, all this, like, gene, like, making the protoplasm to put into the nuke, it literally looks like you're just mixing dirt into a box. and then closing the box and putting it on the new. Well, the protoplasm looks like fucking

like peach colored Nickelodeon Gack. You see this shit? Yes, it does. It looks disgusting. And is this where, is this missile that they attach this to? Is this the one where he dresses up as a general? Yes, he's wearing his crimson tie to tie. Yes, dude, he totally, I thought the same thing.

He just walks in and starts overriding orders and people are like, I don't know, he looks like a general. Well, he certainly dressed like when he's jumping an unlit cigar. I think the thing here is he's right before this in his, by the way, Lex and Lenny get a fuck pad together to beat the band.

Oh, you've got a jukebox, you've got a bunch of cool chairs. It seems to be at the top of the Empire State Building. The quote-unquote cool chairs, one chair is, I wanted to take a picture of this, but I didn't want to give it away to the folks at home,

but one of the chairs is a woman that looks like a cheetah that is shaped like a chair. What in the fuck? Not noticed that. I'm going to have to go back. Yeah. Did you take a picture of that? I didn't. I should have him. Oh, damn. I was going to say, text me that. Sex me that photo.

Text me that sexy lady chair. It's a, it's a Primo dual, uh, bachelor pad. It's up there with the dead ringers apartment. Oh, that's a nice pad, actually. It's great. It's good because they're step uncle and step-nephew, so it's fine. It's fine. They, um, entered into this movie. I think this is what gets, uh, Lex onto the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. military base, two of our America's greatest, two of history's greatest actors, Jim Broadbett and

William Houtkins. Yes. And then some third dude playing like an evil Russian or something. Yes. And it's like the idea is Jim Broadbett is a French arms dealer. Houtkins represents the US of A and the Russian guy represents Russia and they're all going to work together to stop this

fucking, this no good Nick telling me what I can and can't do with nuclear weapons. Absolutely. Yeah, there's a line from Lex Luthor. It might be after this where he says that like no he's not uh he's not for war he's just for the threat of war because you can make money during it exactly yeah like if there's an arms

race like Lex can make money on selling these weapons to people uh is the idea and they're all made up to look like you know non-cobra G.I. Joe villains yes general roam off and then like does is it who has the eyepiece

no he's like a striped suit or something. Yeah. Yeah. He will Houtkins is also the guy who gets Lex Luther into the launch site. Yes. He walks into, they walk in together to watch the launch.

And the guy, you know, there's some fucking like weather delay or something like that and you know, Lex Luthor's like, oh yeah, well that's a bypass code 6874. Now fucking launch it. Uh, yeah, the thing launches into space and just as Lex Luthor planned, Superman like

clockwork comes and snatches out. motherfucker up throws it into the sun and then you have the dumbest birth of a villain I've ever seen it's like a fucking D grade star child from 2001 this is the birth of nuclear man my god that's deliberate obviously

I think they're almost trying to reference when Clark was coming well when Superman was coming to Earth as a baby yes a little bit no no no orange trash look good on big screen orange trash look very good on big screen when we that is correct thank you

We'd like to work with you both more, but, you know. I actually made my son, Eric, by throwing him into the sun. It was an abomination. It was my DNA and a bad suit. I found General Zod dead. Threw him in a vat. We made some monsters. I bet they were originally supposed to put out ghosts can't do it.

it doesn't it just it reeks of a production that they were behind but president deals wouldn't let them get away with you know having a higher profit margin for this you worry so much for handsome men don't worry you're handsome go out on town have good time the movie's going to be fantastic what you mean we're out of money no we're not out of money you crazy chris these guys are nuts it's just you always worry all the time don't worry Chris okay movie men yeah try the card again Run the carp again. Dude.

Oh, if this one that works, you try this one. Give them diners club card. This account from Turks and Caicos. You get money from that. Okay, listen. Hello, Vestron video. Yes, it's Golden Globes. How many squibs you need? We need a little bit more cash flow.

So you squib, you give us money. Right? Oh, man. Yeah, the fucking Canon Vestron Wars. Dude, that has to be something. There's a story to be told in there. Those dealings are as notorious as Iran Contra. Listen, new world.

New world. Do you need dynamite? We have much dynamite. How about the ninja costume? You need to buy any ninja costume? Maybe you make movie called Dynamite Man. I have poster already. You keep.

You got it. Free idea. Free idea for you. so he's you know born and while that's all happening there's a really terrible sequence where Clark is going to have like a workout with Lacey and there's this weird like catty gay trainer character that's like fucking with Clark Kent I don't need this in this movie I mean they're trying to be like hey aerobics got invented everyone's talking about aerobics being invented yeah you hear about this you about this? It's also just like the

shitty, like, they don't even like set it up enough that it matters, but this is the start of like Lacey Warfield trying to like hit on Clark Kent and like you know, win him over romantically or whatever. It's totally unresolved. Well, I mean, this guy

that kind of bullies him like no pain, no gain and then he like killer workouts him. He really does. He kills with an enormous safety pin, you mean? Yeah, he murders him in a fucking sauna with a safety pit. Well, he tosses the giant weights at him. Maybe it's more of a death spa situation.

Oh, I say sure. This is all starts, Christopher Reeves being turned into a physical comedian for about 30 minutes here. I don't necessarily mind, because he's very funny in those first two movies. He's good at, I mean, the third movie has an obvious example of it going way too far.

Yes. Right. I mean, because what the first two movies get right is like that comedy is evenly peppered throughout. And this movie It's like, because this is like the scene we're up to, really, but it's like, uh, like the movie's going to stop dead so we can have the comedy scene. And that's this like double date shit. This is like a three's company bit, right? Absolutely.

Because she's like, oh, Clark, that was really fun. You, me, Lois, and Superman should all have a double date and we'll have an interview with Superman. He's like, ah, hmm, guess I'll do that because I'm a fucking maniac. Just be like, oh, no, Superman's fucking busy. End the story. And like Superman, see, he's got to do the other way around because again, this is what it gets a little tiring watching these movies like I guess like we did. But like again, she's just getting some huge interview with Superman and like that is the basis for the brunch of the first place.

It's so boring. Seriously. And it's the same thing. It's like, you know, how can whatever the, you know, the other newspaper is in Spider-Man, the bugle or whatever like, how many fucking pictures of Spider-Man you need? it's the same thing it's like you're doing another fucking interview with supermail all right don't pay peter parker we'll use a stock one we got tons of those yeah exactly dude uh but yeah like in this situation he just needs to be like sorry i'm i'm gonna be home taking a shit that after one you know cabinet sees but instead yeah we just watch this fucking silly three's company episode play out because yeah he he first shows up as clerk and then he's like oh i or no he shows up the Superman at first and Lois

like oh I made this amazing duck dinner for us with scallops too I'm like that's a little heavy um yeah duck and scallops fucking pick one side of the road lady Jesus Christ also am I am I like mishearing details here but I could have sworn when

Lacey invites Clark to the brunch she's like cool so you can see like my big penthouse apartment but like then when we're there it's Lois that's doing all the cooking yeah and then And the scene ends with Lucy being like, oh, I think dinner's ready. And Clark's like, yeah, let's do it.

And I'm like, well, fuck, do you know what's going on with the dinner? Lois has been doing all the work with the duck and scallops. It's a great question. It's super dumb. We're going in and out. It is weird because Lacey is just so ill-defined. I mean, I don't think particularly that Mariel Hemingway is a terrific actress either. But she's just really ill-defined.

and like, she's, like, really attracted to Clark, so, like, Clark shows up, and, like, he starts to walk out. And she's like, oh, you're right, Clark, let's just go somewhere else and have a great time together. And it's like, what? Aren't you, you're fucking Superman in your apartment? You're not interested? That's the other thing. Again, it makes no fucking sense. She's like, let's just get out of here.

And I'm like, two people who don't live there are in your house doing shit. Why do you want to leave? And I guess it's just a thing. And one of which is from fucking Krypton. She says Superman is boring. I think it's got to be a thing where it's like You're just so fucking rich that it's like Whatever if these complete strangers

More or less fucking totally rob me blind And destroy my apartment Well I'll just buy another one It doesn't even matter Well I certainly couldn't bring him to the Hamptons That simply wouldn't do So like this whole thing's going It's like you know

Oh you know Superman's going to be here For the interview any minute and Clark has to be like, oh, I fucking didn't have any change to pay the cab driver. And so he's got to, like, run downstairs and do that, and he flies back up as Superman. Like, you get the idea.

It fucking happens like eight times. I mean, this is what happens in Mrs. Doubtfire as well. You're totally right, dude. No doubt. Sorry, Lois was a drive-by fruiting. Oh, sorry. Oh, hello, dearie. Help is on the way, dear.

Superman, you have an old woman's face falling off of you. Do I? Oh, geez. Oh, my God. I just saw Superman peeing standing up. Oh, fuck. Superman is Mrs. Dowdye. Well, I just wanted to get close with my kids again. Hmm. No. I thought I'd deceive their mother in a very morally bankrupt type of way. But it's for family.

Uh, got to make the connection because it's adorable and sad that Robin Williams and Christopher Reeve were best friends for a real long time. Oh, really? Oh, that sucks. It's just Robin Williams's 69th birthday the other day. I can miss that guy, but I have to say nice. Come on.

Just go to his grave and just look at it, like, nice, and then like, oh, God. I will say, also, I'm sort of stealing that from his daughter who did the exact same thing on Instagram, but it was for, like, she was donating, like, $69 to, like, a bunch of charity. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, she seems to be a pretty cool person. Anyway, so this is all going on. Same time, we cut back to the fucking Luther family fuck ranch here. And what is the deal? I think also there is a deleted scene that involves time travel, because why in the world is Lex Luthor dancing with some fucking 18th century French dilatat? I have no idea what this is. This Marie Antoinette shit?

It's totally bizarre. I thought it was fucking, what's her name? Miss Krumhouser? What was her name? Miss Tessbacher. Yeah, I thought it was Ms. Tessmacher back and I was like, oh, I guess I missed her name in the credits. Nope. Just some random woman who he's fucking waltzing with and then it's like, oh, what's that noise? Oh, I guess my son, nuclear man is about to be here. On your way, lady. I think he's constantly hosting or going to eyes wide shut type of origin. Sure, sure. I buy that. He's been in prison at least 10 years at this point. You know, that's true. Fuck my way through time. Oh, shit. Yeah, you use a time machine. Dude, yeah, he's the time traveler's porn. Yeah, and then you go and you create other, you create like brothers or sons of you, I guess they would be sons. I guess your own semen wouldn't create your brother. If you're traveling back in time, it's your son, but then it could also be your great-grandfather somehow. Something's something. He else. He's my son. He's my grandfather. He's my son. He's my grandfather. I'm getting dizzy. He does seem like a natural enemy for Bill and Ted.

Yeah. Oh, dude, absolutely. Well, Bill and Ted, you'll notice that I've fucked your grandparents as well. but I'm taking the princesses with me. Oh, no, bogus. Lex Luthor took the bays. Yes, even you have a little Luther in you. Oh, shit. Me and my new best friend, Genghis Khan. Oh, that'd be great.

That'd be better than the last two movies of this franchise. So, Nuclear Man shows up, and he sucks. You know, he's voiced by Gene Hackman for some reason. Except these growls cannot be Hackman, right? You don't think so? No, Gene Hackman. Gene Hackman growls for no one but Mrs. Hackman, dude. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's a little too animalistic for Gene Hackman. He's got standards. This might be jeans like toilet growls. I was doing some toilet growls recently. I'll tell you that much. Okay, Mr. Sound Mixer, you listen to me. When Hackman go to bathroom, you put, you put, microphone underneath stall

and you get the groan ah the old canon pictures toilet mic got it boss if you heard me and Chris talking at the same time that is the podcasting equivalent of reaching for the last declare because we had the exact same joke at the same time

the audio goes in movie the camera the little camera you put it I go straight to my office straight to my house oh yes a hackman on toilet and he's like Ah, I hate getting old. We got some Philly cheese steak for lunch today.

We got him that, so it should be loud. Loud. Kill them all, of course. It was too loud. He brake camera. Mr. Gullin and Mr. Globus, why are we eating nothing but cheese steaks and Taco Bell? I'm supposed to stay in shape for me a Superman movie.

Not a great way to do it, sir. Oh, you don't look well. Go sit on toilet. Oh, that's a promotional deal, Christopher. Promotional deal with the Philly Cheese Sack Company and Taco Bell. It sounds like an all right partnership to me, man. I just don't understand why it's got to have his voice. Like, how does Mark Pillow sound?

Probably not great. It's my guess. I mean, it was a thing where I was like, all right, like, maybe this dude, like, didn't speak English very well. I don't know the thing about this guy. Like maybe he's fucking Greek. Like maybe he's, you know, Pilakowski or something. Is this around when like the suit,

does like Lex Luthor tell Superman via Lex TV? Kind of sort of around here. Yeah. Because I mean like he, Nuclear Man shows up and he is super powered by the cell son. Meaning if he's out of the direct son for even a half a second,

he shuts off like a, like a fucking dildo. So night, I guess. So you could have just, Superman could have just like fought him pushed him towards where it's night. That would be a great idea. I guess I'll like follow the international timeline there and just go in reverse.

Well, that's actually a good point because they're fighting in Metropolis, which is in America, and then go to China. So, I mean, the timeline's got to be a little bit off there. Yeah, you know, it turns out, guys, here's the thing. Oh, what's that? Metropolis is in China. It's the fourth Superman movie and nobody cares. Got it.

I don't know. Just get a hold of them until like 7 p.m. just hold this guy off until around you know when the fucking local news is over get him a nice dinner go to like whatever like metropolis's Carnegie deli is yeah show him the sights and then he's he's gone he's dead all right all right nuclear man we'll settle this in a couple of hours you want to have dinner first yeah it's uh we're going to go get something that takes a really long time to eat all the way through we're going to go to rats his delicatessen I wasn't watching this that closely.

That's all right. But isn't Superman also powered by the sun? Yes. He is, but not in such a stupid way. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I guess, right? Like this explanation for how he gets his power, this doesn't make sense to me. The whole like, oh, the sunlight gives nuclear

man his power. But you know what this is like? But Superman also, but at night nuclear man is beat. Well, here's the thing. You know what? You know why? Well, of course it's dumb. And I'll tell you why. It was fucking written by people who when you have Thanksgiving dinner with them and you say shit like, you know, be really cool Uncle Ted if America and the rest of the world can just convert to like solar and wind power. And then they, their fucking dickhead knee jerk response is like, oh, yeah, well, what am I going to do then when it's dark out?

Solar power, but the sun goes away to tat. And it's that fucking dickhead shit Like well of course when the sun's out If he's solar powered he's gonna fucking turn off There was no wind today So I guess there's no TV Exactly He actually said that

Stupid Okay Nuclear man is powered by the sun And oops it's after seven He's asleep I mean yeah It's the exact same logic You're totally right

It's stupid as fucking shit Versus Superman. I mean, Superman is an actual solar battery. Yeah, he just contains it. And then he can just have it all the time. He should be back in the sun occasionally to keep it going. Sure. Whoa, what are you going to do if it's cloudy out? Lex, I need you to make me a P-Man.

I need a P-man. I will pay you in steaks. The finest steaks you could find it, Spencer, Gifts. Oh, God. That's where they were sold, Trump's steaks. What? No. It's a sharper image.

Oh, okay. There's a little difference because you'd be like, oh, is this a Trump steak or is this fake vomit? As opposed to, okay. Exactly. Pick up a whoopee cushion for the appetizer. Stakes wrapped in Carmen Electra, Hawaii, Tropic posters. I'm sure, what the fuck. A four pack of Baywatch season one.

Oh, yeah, the steaks are in the back right by the glow of dark blacklight mushroom posters. You into sex stuff? They kind of have that stuff here, too. Oh, yeah, dude, for the just sexually curious, Spencer Gives had things that sort of applied to you. You could cook my steaks with a lava lamp. Buy the lava lamp. Cook it. Lava lamp sold separately.

So, yeah, he does the... old Luther hijacking his head again and he's like, hey, Superman, I'm going to blow the fucking 20 top stories off this building, come save it. And then Superman flies in and he's like, huh, yeah, that's right, Luther. It was the same gag from part one. I remember. I'm not stupid, Luther. There's a fucking great Superman line around here, though, because like Gene Hackman says something about like kids and animals. And he goes, uh, it's common knowledge you hate both animals and children, Luther. Common knowledge. What do you have an interview at Esquire? it happened i bet yeah he's a famous guy almost killed superman um yeah and then this is what he introduced

him to nuclear man and they have a big dumb fight how does lex luther know and this happens a minute before but how does lex luther know it's the first time he's seeing nuclear man that he can walk up to him and his fucking weird fingernail will light his cigar for him great question i feel like that's lex luther taking a leap of faith here she does by the way it looks or no, for some reason, that if he scratches Superman, he's going to get really sick and die. Oh, boy. I don't know.

I don't know why. I don't know why. So, Cryptonite, we explained this on the episode coming out tomorrow, I think. So the problem with kryptonite is that it's radioactive. So maybe radioactive fingernails could damage

Superman? I guess so, dude. But they just make Nuclear Man look like, fucking Ron Perlman and Beauty and the Beast Jesus Christ, these are the dumbest things. And there are shots in this movie where there are close-ups to a fake puppet hand and you see these nails grow. It's disgusting.

I was vomiting. Man, it just looks like shit. It's like you put a close-up on like a toy hand that like you push a lever forward and the nails come out. Yep. Yeah. Like it's an effect so bad that in the next shot I expected fucking Lloyd Kaufman

to be out and be like, was that good enough? We're being the purveyors of worthless movies. What we're going to do is we're going to use Ron Jeremy's hand for that shot. I owe him another 100,000 rolls. 100,000 rolls. Whatever. So we have

a fucking big, he roars at Superman. We have a big dumb fight around the world. That's Gene Haggle with a spicy burrito shit. but this is there is some dumb shit here man like this is they get in the fight at the Great Wall of China and they knock a bunch

of it down and then like Superman has to stop and employ his superpower everybody knows about stop motion vision right he rebuilds the wall of China somehow just by eyeballs but by the way he stops to save

now you would think there's a lot of people on this wall he stops to save one singular white tourist it is pretty funny but I also think yeah I agree like it would take I mean it would obviously cost a little bit more if like if Superman really quickly like

rebuilt the bricks you know what I mean or something like that with his hands because he's so fast and strong yada yada yada and what a shock though this is like some you read about this take area this effect that you're watching and it's only half of like something they actually I think they did anticipate trying to do

like animating him like quickly building it back up and then just couldn't do it and it's like well he'll just look at it and that's fine and this is why there are just certain people that should not be allowed to make movies and it's the people who think that shit like this is okay leave it ruined

and he can fix it at the end like you fix the fucking leaning tower of Pisa in the last one yep exactly and also you're facing off against like the next great global threat why are you stopping to play grab ass with the Great Wall of China.

And then there's more. He goes to Italy and he fucks around at a volcano. He starts that going. Oh, right. This is, you got a Superman-speaking Italian burger. And he puts a cork in a volcano. Dude, something tells me, and I think we have mentioned this

maybe on the original Superman 4 episode, but like, I have a feeling if a volcano is exploding or erupting rather, and like, you just cork that shit, that just causes problems in other places. Yep, probably. I was kind of wait for him to say some of that's enough wine for tonight.

Yeah, but he speaks Italian to them. There's like a priest there that gives him the sign of the cross and shit. You are the devil. You are the devil. Oh, that's right. There should have been some crazy old Italian ladies screaming at him. Oh, fuck. I forgot the Catholics hate me.

Hi. They always start this shit. God damn, the fucking Catholic. Demon, demon, demon, demon. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, oh, your holy water burns me. You know, it's time I put a stop to this. I'm going to go break the Pope's neck.

Oh, man, yeah, that'll show him. So, oh, this is around where, because this is Nuclear Man steals the Statue of Liberty. This is the close-up on his awful fingernails. And this whole, him carrying this thing. So funny. Guys, it looks. so bad.

This almost saved the movie for me, honestly. I was hooting and hollering. I thought it was so funny. He flies over the city with the Statue of Liberty. It is so fun. And he sees like a group of people down the street. And he's like, I better huck this statue. I just lost it.

He just gives it a toss. And then like Superman comes in obviously and fucking, you know. The way it's shot, he might as well have this like tucked under his arm. Yes. I mean, just because he got like physics. has to exist even a little bit. You know what I mean? Nope.

He's barely getting a hand on it. So he flies the Statue of Liberty back, instantly fixes it, which is what allows nuclear man to cut his neck with his nails, because he's so focused on restoring the Statue of Liberty immediately. Right. Oh, wait. But it wouldn't be such a liberty. It'd be like Liberty Statue, right?

Oh, because Metropolis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think, yeah, like, Lady Metropolis or some shit. they'd probably call it. You know, just like the Empire State Building is like the Metropolis State Building or something. We're putting Metropolis

in place of all these names. But he scratches him. Superman fucking drops like a sack of wet rags right here. This is when his cape falls off and then he's like dying. Steve Sadek. I was about to, I remember this too. I mean, we did tell this in

the original episode, but for listeners at home who haven't heard it, you shed a tear right here. I did. This is the only Superman movie, sadly, up to that point. I've seen many since then in theaters. The only one of the original four that I saw in theaters, so I'm not like 50 years old. Oh, man, take that people around moviegoing age in 1978. No, I don't. I, you know, that was the first one that I saw. And I didn't expect Superman's cape to fall off and to be scratched. Because you see blood, too. Like, it's not a gusher, but like, it's blood. It's pretty horrific looking.

And I thought Superman was dead. I started a weebit. they killed Superbad to Superbad movie. Kind of crazy, man. I was four years old, but sure. It's just nuts, though, man, because that fucking scratch on his neck, dude, I thought he's going to turn into a werewolf. You'd have, like, howling, too,

your Superman is a werewolf. Oh, man, I could get behind a hairier Superman. Captain America turned into a werewolf in the comics for a little while. No, seriously? They called him Cap Wolf. It's kind of a cool arc. Oh, Andrew's intrigued by Cap Wolf.

I mean, I would like to see soups, like, do more nukes, like, get, like, a big volume in his hair. Ooh, I like it. Yeah. Definitely. Maybe a giant beard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Giant beard? Yeah. Doesn't he have a suit? Steve, does he have a beard in Kingdom Come? Maybe at the beginning. He does have a beard at the beginning and he shaves it. Yeah. So, oh, also the thing, it's kind of crazy, too, the thing that makes him drop the cape is Nuclear Man just kicks him.

Fucking punts him like a football. But I really thought, like, biologically, who couldn't exist without the cape was part of it. Right. It was like, okay, that's part of him. So what was Clark Kent then? He just, like, tucked it under the suit. Yeah, it's got to be, he was a Tucker, dude. I'm wearing it at all times, man.

Oh, by the way, I think nuclear man looks a little bit like Thomas Hayden Church. He kind of does. Yep. Dude, you're not wrong, actually. Aroyd it out, Thomas Hayden Church. Royed it out, like, the hair that Thomas Hayden Church had, like, especially, like, his sideways haircut, where it's long. longer. Didn't he have long hair

and sideways cabin like kind of longer hair? It was a little volume there. Yeah. Yeah. That's because like

it's not like his Sandman haircut. Okay. Me and me and nuclear man have to go from Nuclear Man's bachelor party.

We kind of lost our way after college. He's my freshman year roommate and he's powered by the sun. I'm not

drinking any fucking plutonium. I love this Oh I would Dude Paul Giamatti Just sidled with nuclear man For a weekend Yup

Oh God he keeps scratching people With his fucking fingernails Listen You're fucking blowing it for me With Virginia Manson With your creepy Gene Hackman voice Are you Are you chewing nuclear waste

He rips He like rips up all Paul Giamatti's hand towels He fucking great. Oh man, that's a movie I haven't rewatched in ages. I have not seen that movie since it came out rules. Get yourself a good bottle of wine in the afternoon, some nice, and have

a nice little, it's an early Sunday evening kind of a movie. Interesting. So you started like no later than 5.25 p.m. Exactly. Excellent. Yeah, I know, I know. Started at 420. Oh, so

so then, so the result of the scratch, by the way, is Clark Kent just starts getting the DT shakes here. Yeah. And everyone's like, this is the craziest thing. Like, he's taking a sick day. Like, it's maybe a day or two. Everyone's like, you know what? That's Superman, he's dead. We haven't seen him in 48 hours. He's dead. And how do you have a, like, maybe he's doing something in China and you're unaware of it? Or maybe he's doing something in, you know, fucking Peru and you don't, you're not unaware. You don't know what the fuck Superman's up to. Relax. Exactly. Maybe he had to go off world for something. You fucking selfish metropolitan people.

Off world. I love it. But somebody mails, oh, that's right. Sam Wanamaker's like, Hey, Alicia, I got your present. Superman's cape. You can fucking wipe your ass with it. Because that fucker is dead. Plus she gets a promotion at the paper. Oh, yeah.

She worked really hard for it, guys. She worked really hard. I mean, she was born richer than us. So, yes. That's how the world works. Yep, working hard. Dude, she pulled herself up by the bootstress. and blah, blah, blah. Hashtag girl boss. Yeah.

Yeah. Fucking poor people. Fight amongst yourselves. Yeah. It's all the other person's fault. Fuck your neighbor. He's ripping you off. Keep on belittling people.

Yeah. But so Lois, Lois, with the Superman dead question mark, headline and seeing the cape, she fucking loses. She quits. Or she's like, she kind of pseudo quits,

one of those things. And she takes so much care to wrap up this cape in like fucking packing paper it takes like 20 minutes she's got like twine that she's wrapping this thing I don't know like just shove it in your bag

seriously dude it's Superman's cape it's seen worse she goes to Clark's apartment which again I do feel like she knows what's up she's like hey is Superman doesn't been seen in the while if he wants to show up here's his cape you know and that's yeah

and that is like this conversation especially was I was like, all right, she fucking knows. Because it's like, yeah, give Superman that cape. Yeah, whenever you see Superman. And she, and it's, I actually like the scene. It's a nice scene where, like, they're kind of like, you know, she like is inspiring him to kind of get back in the game a little bit here kind of a thing.

The problem is that I'm kind of disconnected at this, but like, I've already had my first nuclear man fight, baby. Yeah. Like, I want this thing to end. And it's only 89 minutes. Yeah, no, you're not wrong. dude it's like can we just maybe switch some shit around here editing bay um but whatever so he's sort of withering away i don't know man he looks like ebonyzer scrooge right before the end man it's like

he's got like withered hair he's ghostly white it's really really like the three uh ghosts are coming for him in the night man it just it looks so dumb uh but so he's withering away and he's like, oh yeah. And he gets his little green crystal out. DASX. Dildo, my friend. Totally, man. Not the first time a Dildo saved a major motion picture. Oh. And so there's a weird thing where nuclear man's like, must meet lazy Warfield, all of sudden, me horny. Yes, he's, you know, you've killed your enemy and you realize you got a boner down there. Oh, you got a little boner down there. He's got, like, There's a picture of her on the front page

because, again, like, it's your daddy's newspaper. It's like, meet your new sexy publisher. And it's a sexy picture on Merrill Hemingway. And he's like, hey, all right. Must me. And, yeah, poor fucking Gene Hackman. And I was like, me want a fucky. Fucky, fucky, fuck.

And he's like, he's like saying to Superman. He's like, hey, man, you know where this lady is? And he's like, I don't know. And he goes, if you do not tell me, I will hurt people. And then, like, launching into 15 minutes. of continuous growling while he destroys a street metropolis. He spins a fucking SWAT team

truckling at top and I kind of enjoyed watching it. Yeah, I was kind of on board for this destruction. Totally. He's using a lot of like super breath right here to just like send people flying which is pretty great. But like, I'm not joking, like growling the whole time. Well, there's a, and then there's a dumb elevator

gag, right? Where like Superman's going to go use the elevator, which is funny in general. and then like he just traps because again he's away from the sun if the elevator door closes there he therefore powers down

just collapse that's what he does because he gets it he's like a matador you know and he fucking tricks him into jumping in he closes the elevator doors and then somehow like turns the lights off in the elevator and that like stops him

and this is the whole like dragging the elevator up through he grabs the this is kind of an interesting move for Superman he doesn't think like maybe I'll just grab the elevator cart and carry that up I'm going to grab the wires that the elevator is holding on to so that when I fly out the top of the building, I'm just going to take a huge chunk of the building with me

as this elevator cart flies through the side of the building. You're killing a couple people for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, we go to the moon and he drops it down like, huh, job well done, Superman, excellent. And he's kind of just like taking a breather on the moon. Well, no, he's kind of like, I don't know, I've been to the moon in a while, kind of a thing. He's like admiring the flag. He's not bad. He's like, he straightens it a little bit. Yeah, he covers up the footsteps that those pesky astronauts left. Leave no trace, guys, leave no trace. Totally. But I also do love, you know for a fact, like Superman was about to hug nuclear man at the sun and he'd be like, oh wait, no, no, no, no, Clark, get your head on your ass here. Oh, now he's 50 stories tall.

exactly but he forgets that the sun also is around on the moon and stuff you could say the sun also rises dude and it's just it's just around the time when like

so nuclear man comes back right yeah the sun hits the elevator and he jumps out of it like ha ha I'm alive again and then he grabs Lacey Warfield and drags her into the cold death of space yep and she's fine

like by her hair and she's like ow And she's just breathing openly on the moon. It's just, it's fucking... Forget breathing openly on the moon. She makes it through the Earth's atmosphere. It is just so dumb. It's like how, like listen, Canon, I love you guys, but how dumb do you think we are?

No, no, it's okay. It's okay because she touched pretty sunboy. She touched pretty son boy. She's okay in space. If he would pop up and explain shit here and there, I would be. so into it. But you know, here's the thing like, Chris, you're not far off because the easiest fix is like, you just animate

a little orange line around the both of them. It's like, oh, he's got, I don't know, a fucking force field capability. Whatever, it doesn't matter. It's at least something. No, no, no, no. Orange line costs you $10. No, no, no, no. We'll not do that. No do that. It would be funny if he, like,

kept on trying to get like a sexy lady and he kept on flying to Earth and bringing them into space and they kept on popping in the fucking vacuum of space, so he just keeps doing it. This time, oh, fuck. All right, this lady. What about two ladies at once? Oh, wait.

See, because the thing is, it would be an absolutely killer date spot, but they always pop. Daily planet headline, Human fireworks over city. At what point does he, because this fight goes on for a while,

at some point, nuclear man hammers Superman into the fucking moon, like a hammer to a Like a fucking loony tune, dude, yeah. And it's a lot of wrestling, fighting, you know what I mean? Like there's like, you know, hip checks and stuff and slobber knocker and... Yeah, tons of slobner knockers, dude. Whose knockers got slobbered?

No, it's a, a slobber knocker is a thing. It's not a person. I bet it did it. Then they got gum gabbled. Gum gabbled. So he's like growling, growling, growling, whatever. Superman moves the moon in front of the sun to cause an eclipse and that's what I'm like guys yeah the oceans back on earth are so fucked right now there's a hundred tsunamis going on just I mean like you might I think this is the problem with this iteration of Superman and why it kind of it had to peter out like I think that and I even think the same thing with the sun air Superman like there are ways to make him less powerful and that's a great idea like Superman shouldn't be able to move the moon you know i mean like he could be super strong like lift a you know a fucking a building over his head but maybe

he has to like struggle with it a little bit you know what i mean like exactly and the fact that like every single thing he moves the facial expression like stays the same exactly he's not struggling anymore to move the moon than he is when he how he looks when he's like lifting a car and you just you toning that down a little bit or a lot of bit would like make these movies have a little bit more uh uh uh uh uh stakes to them absolutely the moon is just too big if it was a comet or something maybe and it would be cool if that comet

turned out to be a fragment of Krypton and died exactly so he you know nuclear man goes dark and then just like drops from space right into a power plant exhaust tower and then falls from

that directly into a nuclear reactor giving metropolis I guess unlimited power I think he puts him back in the elevator where you powers down and that's what he's hucking around but even oh no he just no he just drops yeah he drops okay you're right you're right because there's a crazy

like image of him it's just like a fucking sack of potatoes falling into this nuclear power plant exhaust tower or whatever and that is the theme of the movie nuclear weapons bad nuclear reactors good yeah excellent yep exactly dude clean energy

or whatever so you know he's gone at this point fucking Jackie Cooper comes in and he's like oh by the way Mr. Warfield I convinced the bank to let me become the majority shareholders so you can go fuck yourself glad you were in this movie

for six and a half minutes it's just like one character too many man look Sydney I know I know like hi it's Christopher Reeve again hi I know that you wanted a last scene with Gene Hackman and Superman you know Luther and Superman one last but I have to tell you that journalism is really important

and we have to tell the audience that's really important and we need at least 15 minutes at the end of this movie to tell that so Superman gives another press conference here and this is great because he's like yeah you know I tried to be cool before and you guys were all assholes and I just realized you know

you know what it's not up to old Superman to solve your nuclear problems it's up to you motherfuckers so whatever yeah you guys can just nuke each other I'll just be getting cats out of trees bye bye yep totally I mean he does have a great line here he goes you know I wish you could see your world the way I see it. He says when you really look at it

it's just one world. It sucks that there are good messages in a really shitty movie like this. For sure. Because that's definitely one of them. Superman's like, look man, I've experienced the overlook effect. I'm sorry that y'all haven't, but you're just one fucking rock dude. Work together. I can't be in all places at all times. Sank of this shit. Sucking tired of it, Superman. He's a vacation. Stop kicking the back of my seat.

fucking Lenny and Lex Luthor are disguised as characters from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Trying to fucking jolop either way out of Metropolis and are caught immediately The weirdest part about this is like Gene Hackman's like All right, I'm not going to be in your silly Superman movie Okay, hey Gene, will you debase yourself in the dumbest costumes

We Could Possibly Find? Absolutely. You got it. Better go to Lowe's. These are the first experimental versions of something called an Oakley. We want you to wear them jeans. And it's like, Uncle Lex, you're not going to believe this. And Superman like lifts up the whole card. He's like, fuck you. Lenny, you're going to the Boys Town Remedial Home.

This kid looks like he's 22 years old, by the way. Yeah, I think he's probably actually aged out of qualifying to live in a boys' home. and it's also it's run by the church a little too mixing like the American way with churches and shit in this franchise totally dude

Luther goes back to jail there's a great C-N-20 from Superman which is fucking awesome inmates are like hey Mozart's back oh right they're all making fun of them he reads you fucking idiot

oh and there's one final like moment between Superman and Lex Luther it's like okay but just tell me how you defeated him you know oh yeah how did you do it and he's like oh remedial uh nuclear physics when i was sick i kind of got a nuclear physics book and i kind of went through it uh yeah exactly there is a great thing though he goes uh it's a great jean hackman line he goes uh because he's like hopeful still and he's like is the earth going to be vaporized fucking great i've always liked that one is earth going to be vaporized

fucking take me now superman hey wait is just uh quick question is just uh just uh just uh quarantine going to last all year. Yeah, take me now, Superman. Yeah, fucking vaporize me, Superman, please. What are you waiting for? What are you waiting for? You get to see some Kakman cleavage is what he says that. Look me directly in the eyes.

Look me directly in the eyes. Snap my neck. I know what you plotted last summer. And then, like, I think the last shot of this movie is the recycled last shot of the first movie. Yes. Because that is exactly the same. Yeah, maybe they did it again or maybe they didn't, but you're right. It looks, I mean, dude, we watched these four movies in the span of three days.

It looked to me last night like it was the same shot. Because also, not for nothing, this was, you know, the first movie was 78, this is, what do we say, 87, you know, nine years. Christopher Reeve is looking older in this movie, and he looks younger in that last shot. That makes sense. That's just me. You're probably right. This movie's cheapest shit. We recycle last shot, it's fine.

Chris, Chris, that always happens in movie. You've never been in this part of the process, but you always recycle old shots. Exactly. It's called the movie magic. Movie magic. We are magician. So where's everybody

feeling about Superman for it? Because that's the fucking end of it. We'll go to Steve Sadek here. Yeah, I mean, like, it's awful, it's incredibly cheap, it's so flimsy. You can pull at any thread of this and be like, there's nothing here. I do I like it a little bit more, at least because

of, I don't know, just watching the first one or watching a lot of Christopher Reeve clips. He had a real idea of a philosophy about this character that I think is really nice and inspiring in very dark times. And to have this movie kind of be a vehicle for it is both nice and also tragically sad because it's so cheap and such a failure.

And probably his involvement made this movie so much worse, unfortunately. Or at least he's involvement behind the scenes, not in front of the camera. So there's that. I would go if I was ranking and not everybody has to do this Superman 1, Superman 2

I would God damn it, it gets tough. I guess you gotta go number Man of Steel just because at least holds together a little bit more than 4, then 3 then Sadler. No, actually I'd go 4 over, 4 over Steel

for sure, 4 of Man of Steel then Man of Steel, then you do Superman 3 which is terrible, irredeemable. and then you get Batman versus Superman, which is super irredeemable. Where's Superman Returns? Oh, of course. Oh, fuck ass.

Okay. One, two. By the way, Steve, you're the one that painted yourself in this coin. Oh, I absolutely did it. No one was saying about rankings, but you love them. I do love them. One, two, four. Oh, two, Superman returns for Manor Steel three, Batman versus Superman.

I'm not going to count Justice League. It's a team movie and fuck off, Chris. Okay. Wow, take that. Eric Siska? Yeah, I kind of agree with Steve that I do think this movie was better than I remembered it being. I like moments of it. It's very dumb.

It's very stupid. You know what? I don't like it. But it's still better than three and it's better than, oh, my God, should I do a list now? You don't have to. Superman One is my favorite. uh then superman two right i would probably put i don't know man i haven't seen uh superman returns in a long time but so it's probably like superman returns four man of steel three bvs last

yeah i mean and also like i feel like if you liked if you're really into like like you were saying steve the interpretation of the character that christopher reeve had and you like one and you like two I would say, you know, re-appraise for it's not great, but if you get aggressively drunk like I did, it's not bad. It's not good, but it's not bad. There you go. It's a gin-tastic movie. Exactly. Chris Cabin.

I actually think three is the more remarkable movie. Like, not better, but like four dissolves from my memory the minute it's off. Like I can't, like, I had to take copious notes for this just to make sure I remembered everything that was going on. And you would think the 89-minute runtime would work in its favor. But actually, it just feels almost as long as three to me in a lot of respects. So, like, I can't really, yeah, I can't recommend it for sure. I would guess I would go Superman 1, Superman 2, Superman Returns. I guess I have to say Man of Steel.

Superman 3, Superman 4, Batman versus Superman. Wow, really? So 4 down the eye? Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think what's said about this movie has been said. I will say it played better for me this time, just like it did for some of you, than it did 10 years ago when we did this episode the first time.

You know, I do appreciate, hey, fuck man, you know, 89 minutes and you're out of there. That's not too shabby. although the problem is when you read about why they did that like it was a longer it was like two hours and 17 minutes or something yeah and they caught it from a business standpoint because theaters would be able to cram in more show times uh and it's so fucking funny because it's like hey man jevera just putting the movie on two screens but we didn't yeah there wasn't a proliferation of multiplexes in the same way you want a shorter movie no matter what even if you cut out all good scene shorter movie better crease and yeah in 87 like there were a lot of like last picture shows still around this country probably. Right. So the notion of like if it's shorter, we can

cram more shows in a day and we can make more money. But you know what? Then that does not make a great product here. If you're like, you know, Superman curious and you haven't seen these movies like I think for a completion of sake, check it out. And I would go one, two returns for

Man of Steel 3 BVS. That is my ranking. And that concludes the 500th episode. We Hate Movies, which is quite something, everybody. If you put both of those together, you've got a big old app. It's a big old app, man. And, of course, it will continue because tomorrow, if you are a Patreon subscriber,

we will be releasing We Love Movies episode 501 talking about Superman, the movie, the first one, which was a lot of fun. And this was a lot of fun, and I have to say, the last 10 years have been a lot of fun. And I'm saying to the folks at home, and I'm saying it to the three of you here, who jumped on this 10 years ago and decided to try to make something of it. And, you know, I think we got a lot of dumb luck, but we've also, like, worked to make this a cool thing. So, you know, thanks to the three of you for hopping on board

because it's not anything without you guys. Well, say, like, likewise, man. Thanks to you, sir. To quote Jennifer Coolidge, and I believe it's best in show, likewise, I'm sure. I think you're right. my favorite lines of all time. But no, yes, you were, I mean, you obviously have a shepherd of the

ship and all that great stuff. And, you know, you edited almost every main feed episode, period. So that's a ton of fucking work on your end as well. So hats off to all of us. And yeah, hats off to you. Again, we would have stopped this show so much longer ago if people didn't give a shit about it.

Oh, it would have been just another failed web series idea we had, you know? Like, truly, you know, it's really, it's really thanks to the audience. And obviously, The whole Patreon thing, I feel like if the Patreon didn't come along, we would have fizzled out by now. So thank you so much for your support there. It literally keeps the lights on.

It literally keeps us being able to do this. And so that is, of course, the end of our celebration of the 500th episode. But we are rolling on here with more content as always here on We Hate Movies. Steve, what's going on? Yeah, we are next. Well, tomorrow you get your 500 first episode on Patreon.com, which is Superman the movie, which we're really excited about, which you've already told you. about. But next Tuesday on the

free main feed, we are coming back with an episode on while you were sleeping. Absolutely. This is the season finale, technically. Finally, getting back to our 90s thriller roots, you know, psychological horror. Absolutely. So that will be coming up

next week. And then the funny thing is there's just like a little bit of a break. And then season 11 starts almost immediately. That's right. So thanks for tuning in. Thanks for celebrating five hundo with us be sure to tune in tomorrow for 501 with superman the movie that was a lot of fun that's on the patreon feed uh and then until next week with while you were sleeping i'm andrew jupin stephen sadak eric cisco chris gabin take it easy and please put on a mask

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