We Hate Movies - S10: Episode 502 - While You Were Sleeping (with Chelsea Jupin)
Episode Date: August 25, 2020On the season ten finale, the gang welcomes Chelsea Jupin back to the show to celebrate Christmas in August with a chat about While You Were Sleeping! How many false memories does Andrew have about th...is movie? How long are they slipping on that ice? And should Sandy start slowly poisoning that creepy super? PLUS: This Christmas, While You Were Sleeping 2: The Murderer's Brother! WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. While You Were Sleeping stars Sandra Bullock, Bill Pullman, Peter Gallagher, Peter Boyle, Jack Warden, Glynis Johns, Micole Mercurio, Michael Rispoli, Ally Walker, and Monica Keena; directed by Jon Turteltaub. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program, it's Christmas and August.
It's while you are sleeping.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek.
Baskin Robbins.
Chelsea Jupin.
And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to We hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. It's the podcast. It's the podcast. We hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. It's the podcast.
We're just calling out ice cream names.
We are pleased to be joined, of course, by frequent guests this season.
My beautiful wife, Chelsea Jeepin, how are you?
I'm all right.
We're talking about one of your faves here.
This is while you were sleeping from 1995.
Yeah, this must be a little...
We love movies, right?
That's how this is going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Directed, of course, by Disney's own John Turtle Tau.
Oh, you got yourself a Turtle Tub there.
You look at this guy's fucking filmography man,
and I'm fairly certain that he lives
inside the Magic Castle at Disney World.
It's all episodes
that list of his.
But it's all like Buena Vista
movies, just like all the National
Treasure shit. I was
looking at something else that's also
Buena Vista. The kid. Bruce Willis is
the kid. Did he direct that movie?
Yeah, he did.
He grows up to be a loser.
Oh, that's right.
Spencer Breslin.
That kid actually grew up to be a loser.
No, I don't know that.
Now of course this is the beloved Sandy Bullock rom-com.
Now Steve Sadek, you own this movie on VHS cassette, is that correct?
I do indeed.
And Chelsea was like, oh, does that mean you love this movie?
No, it just means that I found it in a random...
Well, you know, you thought, Andrew, you thought that I loved this movie.
Chelsea was like, yeah, he just found it in a garbage dump, which is actually true.
Yeah, Chelsea knows you better than I do, apparently.
You like spending a dollar to get a VHS tape with some bedding.
bugs in it. Where are these dumps
with these VHS tapes? I'd love to know.
No, by that I mean like
a Nostoria Queen's
vintage store
that sells couches mostly and there's
a weird little rack that has VHS tapes
on it that some of these grandfather left
because he's dead. Oh, so it's like
impulse buying like you were there to buy a fucking disgusting
couch and then it was like, ooh, before I check
out, add another 50 cents onto
that couch tab.
I guess so, but not for me.
Me and my wife actively seek this stuff
out. But the reason you're bringing this up, Andrew,
is because we have another round of
the VHS trailer game.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
I was going to say normally this is where
push a button and then a little
theme song would play, but thankfully Chris
Catlin has covered it.
So now people are going to be confused and think that this is an ad.
This is not an ad. It's not.
We should clarify.
Well, let's wait 15 seconds and then start,
because everyone's going to skip to that.
The good news is, actually the bad news, I should say.
There's one legitimate film here.
One, because it's a Disney tape, because it's Buena Vista or Touch, is Touchstone, I think.
Buena Vista.
Hollywood Pictures.
Hollywood Pictures, but it is a Disney.
Which is a Disney offshoot, yeah.
And distributed by Buena Vista, as said in the credits at the end of the movie.
Because I watched right till the very end.
There's one legitimate film and two Disney animated films.
Oh, fuck.
animated in 1997, like you'd be advertising for animation in 96.
All right, so I'll give you the, I'll give you the, let's, you want to build up to the real film or do the animated for, or do the anime, or go in order as they went.
I think the animated might be the softball, so let's lead up to the, I don't know about that.
All right, so the first animated trailer, uh, was a, is an old, an older Disney film released for the first time on VHS.
Yes.
And the clue that I will give you is Bet Midler.
Oh, Oliver and Company.
Slam!
Look at that.
Nice, it Chelsea.
One for one.
Wow.
Now, this one, the next one, is a sequel to a Disney animated property.
Return to Jafar.
Wrong.
Fuck!
Fuck me, fuck.
But, and I will give you a couple of clues here.
Okay.
It is a sequel.
I mean, I should say.
it is the
it's a sequel
and it could be
it could be the second movie
could be the third
we could even
the fourth movie
who knows
see that's where I fucked up
yeah
the one of the trailer lines
is a character saying
my father is alive
and the other one
is take part
in the wedding of the century
is it a Cinderella sequel
no
my father is
is it the third Aladdin movie
it is indeed
do you know what that's called
Oh, it's, um...
I'm not even gonna pretend.
Iago's party.
No, that's the fucking directed DVD bonus disc movie.
It is Aladdin and the King of Thebes.
Yes.
Where it finds his dad or whatever.
I, which I saw both of those.
And I will say the trailer's hilarious because I was watching my wife last night, Jen.
And she, they showed Robin Williams in the voice booths because they're like, and featuring the return of Robin Williams as the genie.
and they it's very much like look he's here
he had like a newspaper basically
yeah totally there's a fucking laser scope
on his forehead
but so did that mean that
who did they have for return to Jafar was it
Castellanetta? No no
Robin Williams came back oh yeah oh yes
Robin Williams was I'm sorry
Kestenolnetta is in return of Jafar
right because that kind of came out right when that
TV show was going on Marty shut up
of
it is called the land of the king things
I want to make sure yeah so yeah and also
John Rees
is in this movie.
Might be a state tune.
Oh, shit.
I think he plays his dad.
I saw it one time, like, right around when it came out, and I couldn't tell you
think about it.
Is there is some sort of wedding going on there?
And Jerry Orbach, I think, is the villain, which is kind of rules.
Oh, man.
Well, yeah, okay.
I'm sure that's not a considerably cast.
Yeah, he's playing Saluk.
Yep, definitely not.
Well, I've been fucking got Scott Weigner as Aladdin, so you know what?
Oh, well, I guess that's true.
Yeah, lad, and I'm coming to kill you, you see.
All right, so that's a legitimate film, and I will say, this features, this also has Bill Pullman in it, and an embattled, a currently embattled celebrity.
Oh, Mr. Wrong.
Wow.
Chelsea Jim's got two for two.
Wow.
With one.
And surprise, Chris Cabin usually wins at games.
No, no, no, I'm bad at this.
Okay. I owned Mr. Wrong on VHS. So that, yeah, speaking of VHS that shouldn't have even been printed or.
Was it like a, was it a, I really like this movie and I'm buying it and watching it a lot?
It was, it was my sister really liked it. And sorry to put her on blast on a podcast.
It's a strong stay tuned, I'd say. Oh yeah, for sure. It's a really wild movie.
Well, so that's, that's all the trailers then? That is just, just the three. Excellent. We got to do.
more movies that you own on VHS team.
Maybe we should like backwards program some
stuff because I really like playing this game.
It's a fun game, y'all. I'll dig through the crap.
This movie,
it's so super 90s
also in just seeing like Hollywood
pictures and caravan
pictures logos up front.
Like that fucking caravan
pictures logo, that poor sad old hobo
walking down the street.
You know why I always remember that one
is because in front of their
jerky boys they did a little bit
where they pretended to be the voice of
the caravan pictures guy. Oh,
yikes. I don't need people
interacting with the logos.
That sucks. I didn't, I
don't remember our episode. Did you have
jerky boys on VHS yourself?
Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Did you own it? Was it an orange, I think it was an orange
tape. Orange tape, orange tape, orange tape, just like Johnny
Neimanis. I love it orange tape.
And the first Rugrats movie. I also remember
being orange tape. Orange tape, orange tape,
orange tape, three orange tape.
And also just another with the opening credits.
I noticed the font for the opening credits
while we're like cruising down the L train in Chicago,
all these beautiful shots of Chicago.
This is a super Chicago movie,
which I give it points right away for that.
But the font on these opening credits,
a little too casual, I think.
They look like like if you had a pad of paper
with a personalized thing on it,
it was like a to-do list.
That's the kind of like cheeky, casual font
that this is.
I feel like you need a little bit more of a romantic-looking font for the...
Or like a holiday-looking font.
It's a Christmas movie.
Yeah, like Halloween.
Like, yeah, blood-dripping tie.
That would be, like, what I would think of this movie as.
You'll never believe what happened while you were sleeping.
See, it works right there.
Actually, that's a great idea for a movie.
It's a slasher movie where one person just sleeps through the whole thing.
And then wakes up and goes, hey, what?
Wait, what?
While you were sleeping.
We killed all your friends.
Sandra Bullock just, like, litters his place with, like, bear traps and stuff while he's sleeping.
Can I posit a new legislation?
Can we just ban this will be from movies from now on?
I mean, it's just, it's been in enough movies, I feel.
Yeah, this one feels like a real classic to me, but going forward, you know, this movie is like 20 years old.
We can do that now.
We can do like an EDM cover of this will be or like a slow down version.
Oh, Jesus.
You get Gary Jewel to cover it, you're saying?
I'm looking at it now.
It's Natalie Cole has 54 credits.
It was also in Shazam, this will be.
So that seems like way too much at that point.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Shazam the superhero movie?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't notice it then because I was really struggling to give a shit while watching
the movie.
That's a sleepy movie.
That puts me to sleep.
Oh, yes.
It was like drinking a glass of warm milk.
I tried to watch it a couple weeks ago just because I wanted to catch up with it.
And I just didn't.
I was like, I don't really want to watch this right now.
And I just kind of stopped.
It's just, it's a fine movie for kids, but I had no business watching it.
That's kind of what I thought.
Now, I think a good place to start because it is permeated throughout this movie.
Like I said, this is definitely an on location Chicago movie.
Chelsea, you pointed this out last night.
This movie is cold as fuck.
It's a freezing cold.
movie. There are very few scenes
of people not wearing coats
which you don't realize
you don't see very often until
you watch it. You're like, oh yeah.
Can I
point out that there is a scene early
on without a coat? And that is
when we are getting a flashback
to the days
of her with her father while they are
looking over a bridge and he's
telling her the tale of the magic
garbage barge that's
going up. She's just like looking
out wondrously at a garbage barge.
I did not recall this flashback at all.
I've seen this movie maybe like somewhere between like five and ten times.
Yeah.
And there's a big TV movie.
My sister also.
I think my mother actually owned the VHS also.
Your sister loves it.
Normally she and I text during the holidays about how we're watching it.
Right.
Do you, do you, is this a Christmas movie for you, Chelsea?
I mean, I feel like Christmas is incidental in this movie and maybe I'm wrong about that.
No, for me, this is a Chris.
I rewatch this every year.
Christmas. Yeah, absolutely.
But I
could not, like, if you were like, Andrew, how does this
movie start? I'd be like, I don't know, Sandra Bullock
in the L, like,
you know, coin booth kind of
a thing. This, like, whole
like golden hour flashback shit,
it reminded me of another movie we
rewatched recently in quarantine.
The flashbacks that you have
in D2, the Mighty Ducks,
where it's like Emilio Estevez thinking
about, like, his old days, like,
playing pond hockey and shit. And
In both cases, it's flashbacks I don't care about.
I mean, this dad seems like he's on his last legs.
He's just like looking out over this water.
It's like, well, Lucy, sometimes life doesn't work out the way you figured it would.
You see, if you live to get down on the garbage barge, you can find a lot of fishheads and scales.
And you can strip the cats that hang out for meat.
But then she mentions later, and I don't know if I had forgotten or if it was just the first time I had sort of,
place the timeline that her dad's been dead
for less than a year.
Yeah. Yeah. This is a recent
update in this woman's
life is that she lost her dad after a really
long illness. But the flashback
makes it feel like this dude's been dead
for like 25 years.
He has to have died the next day.
This guy had like one
leg over the bridge he was about to jump
off in the flashback.
I will say that this
movie did, just because we're in
the dog days of fucking summer here, man. I was
looking at these coats. I'm like, get me a coat. Get me some chill. I haven't been on a subway
in a while. I'm, I'm ready for all of it. Yeah, absolutely. Everything but a hospital looked
really appealing. Absolutely. Can I ask you, were you a big Sandra Bullock fan in general?
Um, yes, but a choosy Sandra Bullock fan. Okay. She's made some movies that I think she regrets as
well and I'm oh for sure yeah and you regret watching them also is what you're saying some of them yeah
I had been suggesting at one point when this was just something you were talking about because
part of the reason I'm on is because there was just the storms up here in uh New York that one of the
Sandra Bullock movies I regret whether or not she does I don't know is forces of nature
with her and Ben Affleck that's a bad movie it's a it's a rehab movie no one of
No, that's 28.
28 days?
28 days, yeah.
No, Forces of Nature is like she and Ben Affleck are both trying to ghost.
It's a real planes, trains, and automobiles kind of thing.
I have seen that movie.
I saw that movie in the theaters, actually.
I saw that in theaters, too, with my whole family.
Wow, family trip to see Sandy.
Yeah, we were a pro-Boloch household.
Yeah, I'm a fan.
And this movie is what started it.
I saw Speed after this.
Oh, really?
So to me, this is my Sandra Bullock.
start.
And where did the net land
in all of this? I've still never seen in the net.
Oh, that's fine. Same year as this.
Oh, really? She had this and the net
in the same year? Same year. Wow.
So speed
was, because I'm not looking at her IMDB
profile right now, but like speed was
the one. Because that was the year before, right?
Yeah, speed was the year before. This was also
a pretty big hit. This made
a good chunk of change. I don't think the net
did, if I remember correctly.
Right, but so speed is the, is the
movie that starts the sandy 1990s around. See I would have guessed that the net was 93 for some
reason. I'm just thinking like the technology looked that bad in that movie. And this movie is
95 then is what I'm saying? I would have because I remember I saw this in theaters twice and I would
have put it in 94 but I'll believe the internet and I'll hear if you're telling me it's 95.
I thought I remembered the friends I was with being friends from fourth grade. I was done with
them by 1995, I thought, but I guess not. I guess we were still. I could have sworn I flushed those
fuckers. Some hangers on. Just kidding in case they listen and they happen to remember seeing this
with me. I don't mean you. I mean the other person. However that works out. I, this is Sandy
Bullock running a foul of a train again, by the way. Every damn time. Yeah. So yes, she
works for the CTA, the Chicago Transit Authority. She's a person.
who you just
you gave them your little token
and they allowed you to walk through
which was at one time
a job. Right. Now it's a job for
like two pieces of metal with a
scanning thing on it. I mean I think that they
still have people in the booth.
Yeah but when was the last time that person helped a
single soul? Oh never.
But you know they're there to at least in New York
anyway. I think the
ticket booth people now in the New York
Subways are there like
in case of fire starts and they
can just call the fire department.
And when a guy starts masturbating, hey, hey, hey.
I think in general for comfort, too,
because if there's just a human there and like some old person goes up
and doesn't understand the machine.
Yes.
A lot of that.
Yeah, I feel like that's it.
Yeah.
Who can't figure out the machines too.
Yeah.
But it just seems so weird because like half of this movie, like when you see her in the
booth, like she's not even looking.
They're just throwing, like you could have thrown in anything and just walk through.
you could throw it in a nickel.
Because the machine works, right?
Oh, no, she gets it and then they just go through it.
Yeah, she's got a little tray, like a window thing.
But she's looking at the little dish.
I mean, we don't want to spoil the ending.
Oh, actually, that's true.
So presumably if you threw down a nickel, she'd be like, ah.
Right.
So it's her in the booth.
She's doing a little voiceover here.
We get some Peter Gallagher running in slow motion to start us off.
A 1995, Peter Gallagher, by the way.
He's such a dreamboat, but what's such perfect casting is he's an approachable dreamboat.
Like, he does look like just a guy who works in Chicago, who's really handsome who you see on the train.
It's a perfectly cast movie.
Those eyebrows can do bench presses, though.
Oh, my God.
Things will take you in from wherever you are.
It's kind of one of my favorite shots in the movie is, I mean, spoiler.
Is when his eyebrows take the train by themselves.
Yeah, they're finally old enough to take the train by themselves.
They're going down to the loop all on their own.
No, there's a shot like a spoiler alert when he comes out of the coma at the end of the movie
and he's kind of just like looking around.
Not only are the eyebrows like shot straight up,
but he's also like super bug-eyed.
And it's like this dude is staring through time with this look.
It is quite the facial expression.
The left eyebrow just wicks up and sees the right eyebrow.
I thought you were dead.
I thought we were both dead.
I never thought I was going to see you again, Ritey.
Righty and Bill.
Ritey and Bill, the Peter Gallagher eyebrows coming this fall to CBS animation.
Now let's start Darton.
I will say, I will challenge you on this perfectly, he is perfectly cast.
Sandra Bullock playing somebody that works for the CTA or the MTA or any government agency.
Any A.
Any A is complete horseshit.
there's no way and also like that no everyone's just like walking past this totally gorgeous woman in the in the in the in the in the the the the the the the toll booth and just being ah well and like you just never see this woman you would always see sandra bullock is my opinion i hear you and i don't want to be the person who just keeps defending this movie because that's not funny nor is that the point of the show it's us against it's guys against girls today uh but she's describing the the past few years she had she only
moved to Chicago because her dad
is sick and she needs to go to a better
hospital. She's working
all the time. She's just
getting whatever job she can. She doesn't have a college
degree. This is a movie
that I feel like does enough of the homework
to make the rom-com ridiculousness
mostly work other than when you start
to think about like holidays
for this family beyond
this year. Like everything
while you were sleeping too is a nightmare.
of a situation. Hell itself. Hell itself. Everyone. I mean, they do enough sort of padding to make
everything make a little more sense, I think. I, I buy Sandra Bullock and the role, but because,
well, mainly because Peter Gallagher, as we find out, is mostly, is like with Ali Walker while
this is all happening. Yeah, that makes sense. Um, but like, yeah, like, I think she's fine for the role.
It's just the tone is entire, this is an incredibly sad movie. This is like a, this is like a Todd
Salon's like strand
that like escaped and became its
old movie. Yes.
And they just put like the
wrong music over and everything. But it's
an incredibly sad movie.
Well speaking of movies directed by dudes
named Todd though, Cabin.
Like I was reading on the Tribune Tribia
Chelsea's shaking your head, get ready. I will
make this make sense. There's a second
Todd director is more what I'm thinking.
Absolutely. Get ready for this. Todd Fields was going
to do this? No, no, no.
No. Now, now on the Tribune
trivia, it says that this script was
originally written and the Sandra Bullock character
was a man who saves a woman on the tracks
and all the producers were
like, eh, that's
kind of creepy if a dude is doing this, why don't
we swap it? And good call
because if this was a dude, this
movie is fucking Todd Phillips Joker.
It's 100% the Joker, especially with this monologue
where she's like, my Prince Charming and blah
blah, blah, and you're hearing her internal thoughts
about this dude that she sees
every day, he shows up on, he
catches the train anytime between
801 and 8.15
a.m. Oh yeah, that's creepy.
Like, if this was Joaquin Phoenix,
fucking Territown, guaranteed.
You are totally right. This movie
with a male lead is
an incel
fantasy, and I want no part of it.
So I'm with you
there. This, like, charade
are movies where it made sense
to switch the genders. Also,
to your point about how they make
her balanced, another thing,
that rom-coms always blow crazy out of proportion
and they don't do it in this movie.
She's a person who takes the tolls at the booth for the CTA.
She has a CTA worker appropriate apartment.
Yes, yeah.
She's living in a big-ass multi-unit building.
The apartment is not that big.
Fucking Jackie Appreel is her goddamn super,
which I'd be fucking out of there
once the lease was up with this creep.
Yeah, but he lets her break window.
with Christmas trees.
You got to...
Oh, yeah.
Well, the father
is the fucking push
over there with that,
this old dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My favorite thing about that
is that he...
She's trying to pull
the Christmas tree up
through her window
from the ground floor.
And she drops it
and it hits
Rospoli's father's window.
And he yells up,
Lucy,
as if this is happening
all the time.
Well, presumably she's
who lives above him
is what
it is. Or, but is this not her
first time with causing trouble? That's possible.
I feel she's a little bit of a woody woodpecker
in this movie. Maybe she does it every Christmas.
It's possible. Is that how she brings her
groceries home? She
fucking yanks it through the window.
Once you get that pulley system together, Chris,
I was going to want to use it. Yes, Steve,
if you spend money on setting up a pulley system
outside your apartment, dude, you got to make it work
for you. I do think that the whole point
she's doing this is because if she
as a woman tries to lift this up herself,
Jackie Appreel, Michael Rospoli, is going to be like,
oh, let me help you with that.
And then he's in her apartment,
and then she owes him a favor.
Like, no thanks.
I would rather break all the windows of the apartment building
than talk to this fucking creep.
And then you get that smell,
that smell of like rotten roast beef in your house for like a day.
And it's not going away.
That dude just smells like cured meat, guaranteed.
Much like Benghazi is not going away.
I'm sorry.
Not happening.
The other motive of carrying things that she has that she shows is she carries her Christmas
presents in the sleeves of her sweater.
She goes to give it to him when she's, he's filling out the paperwork for the window,
and it's tucked in the sleeve of her sweater.
And she just like, does she just like yank it out, like fucking taxi driver?
It's the best.
This is something I aspire to in all of my winter wardrobe is, is sweater.
that can be big enough to keep my Christmas presents in.
Or actually, that kind of keeps you from like buying shit that's too big
and getting crazy at the holidays.
It's like, oh, I'm sorry, Jimmy, that Tonka truck doesn't fit in these sleeves.
It's one of my favorite little moments in this, and I couldn't let it go by.
I didn't even notice it. That's crazy.
I'm going to have to show you when we watch it again at December.
Fair enough.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, you asked for a hardcover copy of Infinite Chess.
Oh, God.
Oh.
I hope someone got me a sling for Christmas.
Christmas because my arm is sprained.
Uh, so she is, um, met, uh, by her boss here, uh, and the, the boss is like, created this
whole ruse about how she's employee of the month.
And then it's like, eh, you know what?
Let's cut down to brass tax here.
You're the only one without a fucking family and you have to work on Christmas lonely
heart.
Sorry about that.
It's fucking shitty, man.
Yeah.
This is like a dark, dark turn for this movie.
I don't know.
Like it's like, she's like, you always do this to me.
I really wanted to enjoy Chris.
I was like, well, I'm sorry.
And like, no, it's a union job and she's got rights.
You know what I mean?
Like, absolutely.
Yeah.
The guy is a little too likable.
It's Jason Bernard from Lyer, Liar, and he's just like, you played a little too
likable for me to what he's actually doing to her.
Who is this guy in Lying, Liar, Liar?
He's the judge.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, you're totally right.
He's also the boss on Herman's head.
I'm 90% sure.
Yep, he is.
Oh, wow.
I find him to be totally delightful in this.
this movie.
And I mean, he's being a taskmaster to her.
Like, it's really bad.
It is bad, but he is a delightful character.
The problem is, and I think that this character,
they should split this character in half.
There should be the shitty boss character, and it can totally be
played by him. But she needs, like, a
Kathy DeGimi-esque girlfriend
that she goes to, and
every so often when she's like,
I don't know, should it be Bill Pullman or
Peter Gallagher, yada, yada, yada. That should
be that girlfriend. A. It would make this character
of Lucy less sad. Like,
She goes out in the town.
She goes to the bar.
Like, it's not this fucking really sad woman dressed like Neil Gaiman this entire movie.
I do wish she got more time with the girl, co-worker, girlfriend.
Oh, Celeste.
Who she hosts the New Year's party.
She, her closest friend seems to be Michael Rispoli.
Yes.
I'll be honest with you, which is not good.
Man, that sucks.
Everyone should have better than that.
Yes.
But yeah, she does, she has this friend Celeste played by
Marcia Wright, who's been in a bunch of things.
She was in multiple barbershop movies,
among other stuff.
Oh, she was just in the hate you give a couple years ago.
But, like, that's the character.
Like, that's, she's got the friend.
They just totally got that role.
And even when they have the New Year's party,
they're there for, like, eight seconds,
and it's not even really a scene.
And then, you know, it's just Celeste is relegated
to the little ticket booth.
I don't think Celeste even goes to the wedding at the end.
Was she there? I don't think she was there.
Oh, well, Sandy can't have time to call.
Well, because the boss is there. Is Celeste there?
Then you should just put up something by the copy machine, like, hey, I'm getting married.
You guys are the only people in Chicago. I know.
Fellow CTA employees, please come.
Three janitors show up for free ham.
Exactly. Exactly.
It's interesting, though, that you say put something up in the office because the funniest thing about this boss character is that like until you see him at that New Year's party.
And then the two seconds when they're in the hospital chapel
at the end of the movie, this guy has to take
all his scenes out in the cold.
He's got like a fucking like binder or something
and he's like just working.
They're at like a hot dog car.
He's standing like on the side of a bridge at one point.
Like I don't know if he's just like out and about
like around the subway stops but he won't go up
to the platforms or something.
He appears to her like we just did this on animation damnation.
the boss from inspector gadget
like it's just he's coming out of a fucking tree
Jesus Jerry can we go
inside and go to a coffee shop or something
no I got to be out here with the people
yep
doing business
we get
we get a quick
little montage of her decorating the tree
decorating the apartment for Christmas and whatnot
and Steve Sadek we thought of you last night
it's a bluesy Christmas song then
we might be fucking on Christmas
we might be
get these fucking harmonicas
out of the Christmas music, it's awful.
That and the score of this movie is outrageous with the piano.
We could lower it a little bit.
I've always really liked the score,
but last night I was listening to it,
and I was like, this kind of sounds like the music
in the Sims when you're picking, like, their houses and stuff.
Oh, wow.
And that's not a thing you should sound like if you're a movie score.
No, not at all, but you just sent me flying through time with that reference.
I spent a lot of the times bricking up the Sims in a bunch of walls.
Yeah.
And that music played the whole ding-dong time.
Next, when we watch this movie again in December, you're going to hear.
I think that's where they got the idea of the, in the beginning of Sicario.
Oh, yes.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah, I think so.
Just breaking people up, man.
You got to do it.
So, you know, here's the big scene, Peter Gallagher, you know, running to work.
It's Christmas Eve Day or Christmas Day?
it's Christmas Day because she's working
right yeah of course Christmas Day yeah um and I
I have like I said I've seen this movie a lot
it's been a while since I've seen it
in its entirety and actually Chelsea I think the last time
I was home when you were watching it
it was already like into the movie so I missed the falling on the tracks
I had a completely false memory of him
like having a minor stroke or something and passing out
I missed the mugging entirely which is so much darker
Like, no wonder you think this movie is weird.
That's so creepy.
And the all of a sudden has a stroke in the middle of the track?
Well, I mean, what's friendly and light about a mugging?
It's at least something like a stroke implies then of another couple of years of rehab.
Yeah, then she'd really be screwed.
Mugging is Todd Salins.
The stroke is more of Ventrere move.
Got it.
That's where we're going to head after that.
Dude, these guys should be wanted for attempted murder because they're like going after this dude for the scarf and shove him on the track.
Yeah, you need to find these fuckers, dude.
Check every fucking Chicago Polish social hall you can find.
They're bad muggers, too.
They don't get his wallet or anything.
Are they really just going at him for the scarf?
Like, how much can I, like a nice scarf?
That's not worth mugging someone over.
No, definitely not.
I mean, nothing is worth mugging someone over also.
Most things are not worth mugging over.
A marble rye, different story.
But if you're going to do the scarf, get the jacket.
I mean, come on, guys.
He's dressed impeccably.
Hey, you, give me those eyebrows.
Get the fuck back here.
Oh, your big Nike eyebrows.
Look at you.
Hold on.
I got to call my eyebrow fence.
I got a couple of Peter Gallagher's.
Oh, my God.
I've been waiting for you for a long time.
Oh, my God.
It's a leftian bill.
Oh, God.
There's a collector in Colorado.
He's going to lose his shit over this.
Oh, hair collector.
Eyebrow Aficionado magazine.
It's either Peter Gallagher or Martin Scorsese.
Who else could you have on there?
Groucho Marx.
Jack Nicholson.
Oh, for sure.
Those are different kind of eyebrows.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I like that.
Brooke Shields.
Good eyebrows.
Oh, Eugene Levy.
Oh, of course.
And now Dan Levy.
They did like a father's son cover a couple years ago.
Rachel Vise around the mummy.
Yes.
Those are good eyebrows.
Demi Moore.
yeah also an eyebrow
is it monthly or weekly
Steve what's the frequency
I think we do it's a lot
yeah
cousin it of course
yes for sure
ultimate eyebrow
yeah the Demi Moore cover
I remember was famous
because they got her eyebrows
when they were pregnant
and they photographed
oh shit oh man that's my fetish
oh my god
finally
oh gross
so yeah he falls on the tracks
of course she jumps
down to save him. There's an odd line
and it's like played for laughs obviously.
It's kind of funny but it's also weird when you think
about it. She's like trying to save his life
the train's barreling down and she's like
oh god you smell good. Can I stop
for a second saving your life to just say you smell
good? Again you flip the genders
and man are you creeped out.
This is the worst movie at the gender
sweat. Yep dude fucking Joaquin
Phoenix just sniffing zazzy beats
unconscious hair. Yeah.
She jumps down to get him. I'm thinking
she's saving him. When she says
you know, oh, he smell good.
I'm like, oh, we're going to, let
this train take both of us now.
It can't get better than this.
We'll be married in the afterlife.
Oh shit, ghost wedding.
The eyebrows scream out one last time.
So he's rushed to the hospital.
This fucking nosy-ass nurse over hears her,
you know, and again, it's an insane thing
to just say out loud, God, I was going to
marry him. And that, you know, starts our whole insane sitcom miscommunication of this lady
then fucking tells everyone on earth that this lady is engaged to Peter Gallagher, including
the old doctor played by, did anybody look this up? No. The patriarch of the Cusack acting
dynasty, Dick Cusack. Oh, of course. Yeah, exactly. He was in like 15 movies.
Probably Chicago royalty for sure. Yeah, no, exactly. That dude fucking dined out.
on free sausages for the rest of his days
and the house of Cusack and the house of Piven
oh in that fucking town
right
and it just it spreads like wildfire
in this hospital I've never known a hospital
staff to be so Gabby
because it's a good story
she saves her fiance
they think because it's all the nurse's fault
and not Sandra Bullocks
there you go now but if that nurse was played by
a dude
it is I mean it all
it is all the nurse's fault
until the family shows up.
And it's so easy to stop
and be like, hi.
Yeah, I guess what?
I mean, I know this wouldn't be a movie,
but like, yeah, actually,
I just said that the nurse misunderstood me.
I wanted to make sure that he was okay.
I'm certainly not his fiance.
I will leave you all to it.
By the way, I saved your son's life,
so you're welcome.
Goodbye.
And then I remember no one would even think twice.
Steve, I've seen you in some awkward situations.
You are one to talk.
There's no way you would do this.
You would be in all their family,
photos. You would be
Sandra Bullocking along with her.
Well, if I got to marry Peter Gallagher,
I would do anything. What about if you
got to marry Bill Palman? I think still great.
Even better, probably. Better career.
I disagree there, but
better career? Better career? Oh, no, definitely better
career. I just, I don't like Bill
Pullman. I kind of realized, I've kind of come to
realize today. Blas for me.
At all? No,
I mean, like, in
Independence Day, I'll give you, for sure.
He's great. It's a fun performance.
it's really good.
I was a couple of last week actually.
I think I got a little bit high and I was like,
you know, I want to watch something.
We were talking about rewatching space balls.
It's on Amazon Prime.
Excellent.
I put it on and I got to the Bill Pullman bit
and it's him and John Candy and I'm like,
I just wish this was anybody else.
I wish it was anyone else than Bill Pullman.
I don't think he's as funny
as Hollywood seemed to think he could be.
Precisely.
I think he's a great actor.
Yeah.
But I will give you that I think this is as funny as he can be as while you were sleeping.
Mr. Wrong, Spaceballs, those were maybe asking a little bit much.
I mean, I just love him as a presence.
I think he's incredible, like, Lost Highway he's incredible in.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, I guess it's drama is yes, comedies no, for me anyway.
Yeah, no, and I think that's totally fair.
But I think, Chelsea, you're right, that, like, he is a dude who can,
do like this exact amount of comedy
where like the laughs come
mostly through
a channel of like charm
yeah like he's so goddamn charming
in this movie it's sickens me
but like all of the laughs that he can get
and get away with are because he's also so
goddamn charming you know what is
actually a good comedy with him in it is the zero
effect oh yeah
that's a good movie he's really good in that
that's one of those movies like
did it ever get like a DVD
release oh yeah I
had that DVD. Oh, really?
Don't be talking to me about Zero Effect. I know.
The history. I've been trying to see if they're ever going to
put out like a really good Blu-ray. They are not.
Yeah.
The company wrote back.
Dear Mr.
Kevin, please stop writing.
Yeah, they wrote back with a fucking cease
and desist letter.
So let's, you know, we mentioned the family.
So we got the fucking old ass
all-stars here. Peter Boyle.
Glennis Johns, the mother
from Mary Poppins. Yes.
God damn Jack Warden as like the friend of the family who's just like a fucking widower now.
So he's hanging out with them.
He's fucking great.
That's the three old people, right?
Well, the mom.
Oh, yeah, and then the mom.
No, but.
Oh, it's funny because her name is Mikul.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, that's right.
What an odd thing.
Yes.
McCull, Mercurio passed away four years ago.
Oh, she's in Flash.
stance actually. Can we talk for a second about, so yeah, it's them and Monica Keena,
who was 15 when this movie was filmed. Is she adopted? Was there, was she a foundling? Was there
a wish? Because I mean, Peter Boyle is this woman's biological father? I'm going with
foundling. Okay. No, I think when you're Catholic sometimes it happens and you didn't mean for it to.
You are fucking dead on, correct.
That's what that is.
That is a...
That sister was an oops.
Yeah, it was, they had one of their famous wild Christmas parties.
With too much of the eggnog.
Yep, yep, Peter Boyle forgot to pull out.
I just feel like they're mid-50s and she's like, oh, I'm pregnant.
He goes, are you serious?
Yes, yeah, exactly.
Although, here's another option, just going to throw it out there.
It's Chinatown syndrome.
And that, you know, like this, maybe, see, they don't mention a dog
daughter. This doesn't really work if there's a daughter, but maybe
it's like Bill Pullman or
I guess Peter Gallagher, it's
Secret Kid. And
then it's like, we're just going to rate, you know,
maybe like Bill Pullman was like
fucking 13 or something.
We're going to raise her like one
of our own, never say anything
about it, you know what I mean, until like
we're all dead and gone and then you can have that awkward
conversation. So it could be a Chinatown
slash Jack Nicholson in real life
situation. Listen, Mitch, I
had sex with a prostitute and
Nevada came to reap. We got to go.
It would make so much more sense that she would be Bill Pullman's daughter or Peter Gallagher's
daughter. I mean, she's just so young. Or Jack Wharton had an affair with McColl.
It was like, don't worry about it, baby. Nothing can happen between the two of us. Look at us.
And then it's just another big Catholic oops. Although Jack Wharton's Jewish in this movie.
That's true. Do you, so I thought that Monica Keena and Sandra Bullock were going to become like best friends.
in this movie.
They become friendly.
They play it up that way.
But Monica Kinna kind of disappears
because I don't know what to do with her,
which is fine because it was a little too long anyway.
It is.
I'll give you that.
The third act is a little.
Oh, yeah.
It's got two third acts.
It's like act three and act three point five almost.
But yeah, because it's also tough
when you're juggling a movie where like every family member
has like something to do, like especially at the jump.
Eventually someone's going to fall away.
Like after Monica Kina totally mucks up the works even more
with a second overheard thing about Sandra Bullock being pregnant
and then she just fucking goes and blib-blabs that to everybody.
Then it's like she's just out of the movie.
Plus it's her winter break.
She's hanging out.
She's too busy to hang out with her family too much.
Yeah, her brother's in a coma.
But like she made plans with friends.
Dude, honestly, Chelsea, you hit the nail on the head with,
yeah, he's in a coma.
No one is like, I mean, a coma is a fucking serious situation.
Like, you know what I mean? Like every minute counts and like every, it's always like,
oh shit, if he doesn't wake up tomorrow, there's going to be permanent brain damage.
And everyone's people are sobbing.
It's like a half death.
It's like a real fucking, they're just going home.
They're doing like an hour of, an hour visit every couple of days.
Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but they do seem very like, it'll end soon.
Let's just wait it out, which I don't think is usually how that goes.
But it is at least how they've decided to treat this movie.
And the doctors aren't, like, giving them much information.
They're like, well, the world turns again.
And, like, that's it.
Like, it's not like any updates about, like, oh, he had, like, a bad night or anything like that.
It's like, well, I got to go get some coffee.
Well, maybe peacefully sleeping.
It's like, not really.
Yeah.
But you know what?
Here's the thing, guys.
The holidays only come once a year.
Yeah.
You know what?
Like, what are you going to do?
Plus, the hospital's probably got, like, skeleton staff.
it's Christmas. This guy is probably like, he does one case a year and it's like, oh, now he's in charge of a coma guy.
Right. Well, the one thing that they do put in this, so they all come in and like the awkward thing is like, oh, this is Lucy, his fiance, and she's like, ooh, ah, ook, and, you know, they're doing all that stuff.
And then it's overheard that the grandmother has some sort of a heart condition and it's, she'll die if she's not his fiance or whatever that is.
And the solution to that is, let me just tell a couple of you away from Glenys John's,
and you guys can fucking figure that out.
After I've long disappeared into the cold Chicago night.
Exactly.
But, I mean, Glynis John, in this movie, though, she does such a great job.
She is so good in this movie.
She's fucking hilarious, but also, like, because of, like, you know, just the age that she was
at the time the movie made and was made and, like, her voice sounding so fragile,
I fucking totally believe she was, this, like, glass figure.
that would shatter at any second.
She's just this gentle old grandma.
It's a great performance.
And is she the only of the older cast that's still around is Jack Warden still on?
No, Jack Warden passed away.
She's the winner.
Peter Boyle and his aggressive baldness are gone.
He is aggressive.
That's what you call that.
That's aggressively bald.
When the skullet starts dipping down into the looked part of the skullet, like the back
half and you're losing the mullet look of your skullet, that's what he's got in this.
a famous skull.
Him and Hulk Hogan
were famous for that skull.
Right.
But like his dips down
to the back of his head
more than Terry Belias does.
My whole reference point
for Jack Warden
was Problem Child.
Oh,
he's John,
what's his face is dad?
John Ritter's dad.
So I kept on thinking
like Peter Gallagher
was Jr.
Grown up.
Oh shit,
dude.
How did he go
from fucking red-haired
Jr.?
Like this dark
as the night
black Peter Gallagher.
He learned that you have to
blend in to really make some real trouble
my Jack Warden
reference point is dirty work
yep me too
that actually started
playing against me while watching this movie
Steve because I mean
the fucking false memories with this movie
I'm watching the movie and I'm like
oh yeah at some point in this movie
Jack Warden dies
and because it's like Jack
half of this movie takes place in the hospital
and Jack Warden is in most of those scenes
And I was like, oh, Jack Warden in the hospital.
Yeah, he's going to die at some point.
It's totally just pops and dirty work where he's in the hospital and dies.
Makes it out unscathed.
There's no deaths in this movie, actually.
Zero deaths, unfortunately.
The kill count remains at zero for while he was sleeping.
Real short kill count video.
But so there's all this stuff like they're like, oh, you're the fiancé.
You must have stolen him away from, what is it, Ashley, the other girlfriend.
Ashley, Bartlett Bacon.
Who everybody fucking hates.
Well, with a name like that, wouldn't you?
Bartlett Bacon?
What Peter Boyle says that she was awfully full of herself for someone named after breakfast meat.
I could quote most of this movie.
I did watch it again last night, but I didn't have to.
You rewatched it with like an air of like, well, it's on and you have to watch it.
It's funny, though, because I was about to be like, oh, like his last girlfriend and I was going to name somebody like Tiffany sausage.
I kept being like, that's a poor name, that's a poor name.
Like, Bethany Sausers, Brissidy, you know, it's all important.
Like, bacon is okay.
Sausage is not.
Yeah, you can't be sausage.
Just go with Linda Oatmeal.
Linda Oatmeal is okay.
Oh, God.
Finally, someone's doing it.
Stephanie Eggs.
So Sandy kind of like gets the hell out of there and she goes back home only to be fucking harassed again by Joey Jr., which I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
and Joe, he could be Joe, you know, he's a Joey Jr.
This is a Joey Jr., though.
Like, well, yeah, he's a big man, baby.
And he's like, oh, hey, baby, I got us ice capade tickets.
Like, it's like the cultural event of the season.
And he does do an excellent job at portraying it like he thinks it's the cultural event of the season.
Like, oh, this is a hot shit event.
Have you ever seen Aladdin on ice?
It brought a tear to my eye.
Oh.
They got John.
Reese Davies, baby.
What were the ice capades?
Weren't they like, it was like a ice skating show,
but I think it was Disney-oriented?
No, that was Disney on Ice.
Oh, that is just Disney on Ice?
I think any ice capades is just sort of like an ice show
that's like sort of fun and breezy and kind of, yeah.
So it's a type.
Dancy lights and stuff like that.
Right, I get all that, but I'm saying like,
is it a type of entertainment?
or is Ice Capades a brand, or was it a brand?
That I don't know.
I think it's closer.
If I had to guess, it would be a type of entertainment.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, are we talking Kleenex, Q-Tip kind of a thing here, you know?
I don't know.
People will let you know on Twitter.
Yes.
All you massive Ice Capades fans out there,
let us know, because I ain't looking it up.
She's got a great cat in this movie.
It's important.
Two great cats in this movie.
Which you want.
And it almost passes the cat Bechtel test,
but those cats don't talk to each other
about and not about a human.
So that's sad.
They're only talking about dogs.
Oh, there is a scene
around here. So the big thing,
and again, this is where, now Steve,
you got a big problem with Jack Warden in this movie.
There is a scene
where Sandra Bullock, like, you know, just
feeling down and alone decides
to go back to the hospital.
And she's talking to Peter Gallagher in the coma still,
of course, and just like lays it all out.
Like, this is what fucking happened.
yada yada. Jack Warden
through the glass
he hears all this, this old man
hears this? He is the best here and over
all the hospital noise. He has the best
sentence of anyone ever.
I can't hear my wife in the
next room, so Jack Warden's got me beat.
I was waiting for him to take out like
the end of a phonograph thing
up against it when put it
in his ear.
But you know what, Sandra Bullock, you need to learn
a lesson here. You got in trouble
and I'm a consummate mutterer myself
and it's something I always have to like
don't mutter yourself
but like she got in trouble
for muttering to herself
all right
don't go back
and start talking out loud again
to no one
it's only serving you poorly
yeah well I mean
here's the thing though
it's a person in a coma
and what do they always tell you
with those people
just talk to them
they can hear you
we think they can hear you
just talk to them
I think it's fine for you to talk to them
just don't confess
you know your secrets to them maybe
yeah
maybe don't let the whole dime drop
it's sadder than that though man
because this whole monologue is about like
how she understands
how pathetic it is that she's in love
with someone that she's never met before
it's fucking devastating
and I think we're still at Christmas
yeah it's still Christmas Day
I think at this point
and again she's dressed like she's about to enter
the fucking dreaming with
dreaming with this incredible Neil Gaiman coat
it's quite spectacular
I think it's the best coat in the movie
sorry Peter Gallagher
They're trying to, again, like, desexify her a bit and make her look schlubby,
which is very difficult.
So it's like, I don't know, maybe it's a circus tent that she wears.
Like, you know what I mean?
Everyone in this movie does look pretty schlubby.
It looks like they bought most of the wardrobe, except for Peter Gallagher's, from like J.C. Penny.
Yep.
Which tracks for the family.
It's totally accurate, though.
It's really, it's got some nice details in the wardrobe.
I've always liked it.
Absolutely.
I mean, I like that this movie also is just the whole.
family is like working
class and Peter Gallagher
is the exception because he's like a big time lawyer
whatever. So it
just keeps everything grounded
because you know what? Here's the thing. At the end of the day
they're not rich pieces of shit
so I can actually care for these people.
I mean Bill Pullman is like Magic Mike.
He's making furniture
and like trying to like make a life that
way now. I need a scene
in this like furniture studio that he's
got. I need a montage
where he's dancing to Genuine's
Oh, me, that's what you said.
You read my mind.
You know, just making a chair, genuine blaring.
He's got his fucking shirt off.
And then, because it's Christmas, once Pony finishes,
it just switches over to some sort of,
we might be fucking on Christmas harmonica riff,
and he's still just doing it to it,
shaving wood off something.
It would be awesome.
Bill Pullman just grind against Matt Bowmer.
Oh, yeah.
Our Independence Day.
Bump, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,
So which one of you ladies got something for me?
Here comes.
Here comes a sectionage.
Please welcome to the stage, a fictitious president of the United States.
I'm gonna call you Big Bill.
Oh shit, dude, if they make a third magic mic movie, Bill Paulman,
the guy who's like, he's done his last dance kind of a thing.
And then half the audience lives like, I thought it was Bill Paxton.
I wanted to watch Bill Paxton script.
Oh, he's been dead for years.
Oh, that's going to be a problem.
I mean, I'm not talking out of school,
and I'm not reporting anything.
But Bill Pullman was a little excited when Bill Paxton died, right?
Littleest bit.
Just a tiniest bit.
Yeah.
That's one less thing I got to worry about.
Well, yeah, maybe excited is the wrong word.
I would say maybe he was a scotch relief.
Yes.
Or like his agent was glad.
Yeah, all right, that's even better.
I don't need to ask, okay, this is, this is, who is,
you mean, Independence Day, right? Not Apollo 13, right? You're looking for the right guy.
Dude, that'd be great. Like, like, the news rings out around Hollywood that Paxton passed away
due to fucking medical incompetence. And then the phone rings at the Pullman estate. It's like,
Bill, Bubba, did you hear the good news? You're the only Bill in town. Yeah, I do love the
idea of just like Bill Pullman coming in, ah, I'm coming in to read for, uh, yes, thank you,
so much for picking me up for Big Love. This is excellent to read for that.
Oh, wait, I'm looking at it. You want it packed. Yeah, no, I'm fine. I'm just not, I'm not
going to read. I'm just going to leave. Thank you guys. Thanks everybody. Thanks for your time.
I'm not going to waste your time. Just could you please? Could you just validate this parking?
I mean, I haven't even been here for 10 minutes.
How many fruit baskets do you think Bill Pullman's wife got when Bill passed?
Enough that they ate on them for days. Yes.
Poor Bill Pullman's wife. Someone's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry about your husband. Oh my God, what happened?
homer's not dead he's in the backyard oh so i heard you're making a sequel to twister you know we
had somewhat similar circles you might want to think about you know getting me on board i was great
in dark waters you know dude he's just fucking playing the same character they didn't even change
it's just helen hunt and bill paulman you know i think me and helen would have great chemistry
i honestly think you know it's time for a hell and hunt bill pullman movie
Marty, shut up.
So the most awkward thing in the world
is the invitation that
Sandra Bullock's character gets. What's her name?
Lucy. Lucy, yes.
They're like, the family comes in, like, the next day or
something, and they're all to hospital again, and it's like,
oh, well, you know, because all the craziness that happened on Christmas
we didn't get a chance to celebrate, we're doing it tonight.
Why don't you come to our house? This is an absolutely
not situation.
But how can you not go? And, like, as far as they
know it's your fiance's family yeah i know it's tough well she tries though she's like oh i got to work
this that and the other thing i do have to constantly remind myself in this movie that she has
literally no one right so exactly she needs kathy to jimmy or her friend celeste to be like hey
how's it going yeah what do you come to my house for christmas what do you come to my house for
new year you know or she does she does have new year's eve plans i was shocked about by the way
well she's going to Celeste's house
even Ricky Lake in baby
cakes had a better social structure
to her life than she
does it's amazing it should
this should not be and it's
not like she's
you know is seemingly like annoying
character as I'm thinking she seems like a pretty
down to her side from
like fantasizing about Prince Charming every day
in her inner monologue but other than that
I'd hang out with Sandra Bullock
in this movie absolutely she's played more
obnoxious characters what was that
Ryan Reynolds movie. Wasn't she
about the proposal? Or was the
one she won the Razzie for with her and Bradley
All about Steve? Oh, that's a trash movie. I think that
might have been what I was definitely thinking of.
Yeah, because I don't think she's that bad.
No, what is really bad? Oh, you know what's really bad about that movie?
Is Betty White Raps in it?
Oh, that's tough. Yeah, because they do something. Remember they do...
Are you thinking of the wedding singer? These are different movies.
She goes to the house
is the big thing here. It's the big
trip to the house
for Christmas. Christmas too. And Jack
Warden is hiding in the bushes
prepared to fucking take her
out. He sits her down and says, well, listen, you know
I know that you're not who you said you are, but
you know what? You're now damned for all eternity because
if you don't say that, you'll destroy these people or whatever the hell he said.
Is this where he doesn't call her up right here though, does he? Oh no,
he doesn't. No, this is where he talks about like, you know, I'm
very close with them. You
We don't know.
He has hurt her already, clearly.
Yes.
But we don't know yet.
He's trying to intimidate her a little.
Oh, right.
Because he's like, you know, I love these people like, they're my own family.
Yeah, you're totally right.
Don't you hurt them?
Yes.
Yes.
She's like, I would never.
Right, right, right.
And I think he believes her.
Yeah, I think he definitely, he totally, I think like even though he has the intel, the whole movie.
Yeah.
He understands that she's a good person.
I think she also tells him around here about like dead dead.
dad and we moved from Indiana
last year. Right.
It's kind of a thing. And look, Lucy,
if you decide to hurt this family,
I know some guys who can come to
your apartment and they'll take care
of you and you'll be bye-bye.
Nobody will know. Nobody.
We'll throw you in the Chicago
River.
So this is like,
man, I got to tell you what, looking through family
clips like this, no thanks.
I do not like when the photo albums
come out and this is like to give you
like a little bit of background on Peter Gallagher, I guess.
Like he saved a bunch of squirrels when he was a child and they've got clippings of that.
Maybe, and I mean, like, I do feel like this weird thing where like she falls in love with the family.
And this happens a lot in movies.
And I don't think this happens in real life where people like fall in love with the family first and then the person second.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like I find that very creepy.
It's just like, I don't know, like family, it's always like, yeah, I got my family, you got yours and we'll just, we'll make it all work kind of.
I'd maybe understand it
if it's a situation where like
you grew like it's
like your best friend's sister
or your best friend's brother or
something like that and you grew up together
and know the family that way
but something like this is ridiculous
like it's grotesque
grotesque
I stand by my statement
you got to remember though again
she has no one
she has no one and how charming are
they're so sweet they're all exchanging gifts there's eggnogs see i don't want to do this stuff with my own
family alone anyone else's maybe i'm just a miserable crank but maybe also it's because it's
quarantine and i miss anyone that i'm like this looks so amazing but i think the thing that's also
different from this family to most families is that there's not like i mean i guess technically
like the asshole of this family is peter galliger yes everyone else here is on the up and up there's not like
racist Uncle Jerry in the recliner
who won't get up to shake your hand
you know there's none of it's just
like they're all impossibly
nice good people so I can
totally understand it I'm just coming at this
from like my social anxiety
like I could not be in
like a party situation like this
you know a holiday thing like this
where I don't know a single person
I would be shitting my pants the whole time
they fucking got her Christmas presents
for crying out loud
Christmas presents and
And a Christmas stocking.
Oh, the stocking that's already up there.
Would you actually, Chelsea accurately pointed it out,
that's definitely something my mom would do.
Your mom definitely has blank stockings,
just waiting in case anyone else.
You had a stocking personalized for you,
like the first Christmas you,
we went home to my parents' place.
I'm sure before that, I'm sure.
Like, oh, Andrew's dating a new girl
time to make the Christmas stocking
just in case it goes through the holidays.
And it's very sweet, it's very sweet.
It absolutely is, no,
but it's just hilarious that it's another good touch
on the production design in this movie
that they would definitely
be a family that did that.
Oh, Andrew, don't you want to
invite some of your friends from college
over? I got plenty of, you know,
stockings for old. Hey, I
think if you look somewhere in my parents' storage
unit cabin, there's a fucking Chris Cabin
stocking in there. There might very well have been.
There's one for all three, you guys, just in case.
She doesn't know how Christmas will go.
She's just waiting. Absolutely.
But do you point into the social anxiety bit,
it's like, yeah, I get invited to someone's house
like on Christmas. It's like,
And I got to pull somebody's like, do I have to bring a gift?
Who do I have to, who do I have to buy for now?
It's, it's, it's, it's, you're handing, not to sound like George Costanza,
but you're handing me a bill for presents at this point.
Now I got to go out and buy some horseshit.
Well, she buys one of the biggest scams of the holidays, a fucking planted Poinsettia.
Get the hell out of here with the pointettias.
You can't keep those in a house with animals.
You got to always go with the classic.
Just bring like the bubble coat episode, bring a bottle of wine.
Yeah, totally.
one of my favorite episodes of
Seinfeld Cabin, the dinner party, absolutely.
One of the horseshit
Lifetime Christmas movies, I think this might be a hallmark
one that me and my wife watch every year
and I will say me and my wife, it's not like I get dragged to them,
I'm watching them, is this one
it's a poinsetti
a farm. Oh, we watched
that with his mother this guy.
Oh, hell yeah, we watched that one.
The thing that drove me crazy about that movie
is like, the poinsetti of farm
has to be like, they're not busy
in December. They're busy in like
October getting this shit together
You're not shipping on
the 21st
No but I recall isn't there some craziness
In that movie we're like oh my god
The Poinsettias aren't blooming in time
They have to like build a whole new greenhouse for it
There's also a lot of that movie
About the pronunciation of Poinsettia
I'm still getting it wrong
I know Poinsettia is just what I'm gonna say
But the rest of my life I don't care how many movies
They make to teach me how to
Well good news baby because there's
The whole Ponsetia franchise is coming out this Christmas.
I'm sure there is.
This will allow me to scream very briefly about something in the IMDB trivia.
Oh, go right ahead.
At the Tribune, as per sepull, per usual.
But like this one particular thing is there was a chunk in this movie where it was just a person describing the different ways you can say fiancé.
Oh, I saw that.
It's like three lines long.
I'm like, get the, what are you doing with your life?
Who are you?
I looked at that and I was like, oh, they're pointing.
I didn't read it all the way, but I was like, oh, this one is just talking about how people in the movie pronounce it multiple ways.
But you're saying that's not what they're attributing it to.
They're not linking it to characters in this movie.
They're just saying like, these are the ways you can say it.
I'll tell you this.
I didn't read past the first line.
I was like, this is fucking stupid and shouldn't be here.
Yeah, that's not.
The nurse says, she's his fiance.
Yeah.
Who pronounces it that way?
Yeah, the fee like that?
Then fiancé.
It's fiancé.
Again, this is a movie I know how every intonation sounds.
That's why I love you.
I've lost my fiancé, the poor baby.
So they're like talking about, oh, Bill, is Jack coming?
Is Jack coming?
That's Bill Pullman.
He doesn't show up that night.
Oh, he shows up late.
Well, because he's got to walk onto the set of a fucking Folgers Crystles commercial.
Oh, dude, you're my gift this year, dude.
Yeah.
The worst commercial, and I hate many things about the holidays,
but that might be one of the top five.
The primary characters from that commercial moved to Alabama.
It's the worst.
Apologies to any cool people in Alabama who aren't fucking their siblings.
Pornhub presents the Folgers Christmas commercial.
I just want this conversation to be over.
I need to stop thinking about it.
Because he comes in, first of all, though, how shitty is this?
You're like, we're going to do, it's a redo Christmas.
He was like, look, I took off the 20th.
It's not my fault.
My brother went into a coma.
But he works for a family business, though.
You can, I think he secretly hates these people.
Of course he does.
He's trying to stop working with his dad.
It's already pretty tense, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, you see the way he acts with him towards the end of the movie.
It's ice fucking cold.
I don't see any warmth between them.
I think he hates Peter Gallagher.
Oh, yeah.
Palman and Gallagher?
Yeah, they're like kind of content.
Even though like Bill Pullman's got that fucking weird speech
or he's like, I've never wanted anything you've had.
I've always been cool with you being better than me.
Until Lucy.
Yeah.
So that's kind of the weird thing.
But yeah, so there's the Folgers Crystall's thing.
Stop it.
Sorry, well, moving on.
But no, just to say that he comes home late and it's Monica King.
who's the only one that's up, gives him a big hug.
That's why it's the Fultures Crystal's Christmas.
And she says, you are my present this year.
She doesn't put a bow on him or anything.
No, she doesn't tongue kiss him, nothing like that.
Thank God for that.
But, like, Sandy is sleeping over.
Like, this is...
She must have hit the egg knock too hard.
Yeah.
She took a cab there.
Take a cab back.
It's craziness.
There is the greatest thing, though,
setting up, like, the next morning scene.
And it's one of those brilliant things
that, like, happy accidents
thank God we had this take.
Oh my God.
The paper boy just riding down the street, delivering the papers,
and the actor just loses his balance and eats shit.
It's one of my favorite moments on film.
It's great.
And it's like...
On film.
It's so awesome because like clearly it's not scripted because it's not that kind of movie,
but like John Turtle Taub and company had enough of a sense of humor to be like,
you know what?
This is surprisingly hysterical.
Let's leave this.
Again, I've seen this movie a hundred times.
I cackle out loud.
Cackle confirmation.
I could just imagine John Trump, but, like, yeah, you know, that, that, that right there, that's the magic of the cinema.
The magic of the cinema is that paper boy doffing it right into the concrete.
I was reading some listical kind of thing that was like, things you don't know about while you were sleeping before we were doing this.
And it was like, you know, that fall isn't really as funny.
He really hurt himself.
He broke his something or other.
I was like, no, it's still funny.
And I'm going to laugh at it every time.
I hope that guy's okay.
But at the same time, I also don't care.
I'm going to laugh every time.
Sorry, Listicol and sorry that dude's wrist.
That's fucking hilarious.
And also, 1995, it's a total like precursor to jackass.
It's that level of hilarity.
If you're not going to watch this movie, at least seek out that fall.
Totally.
I'm sure it's on YouTube.
So, yeah, like she slinks out the,
next morning or tries to. Bill Pullman
like fucking Batman is just perched
on the staircase like waiting for her
to wake up which is weird
and there's a weird thing where
when he comes home like the sister was like
because he's like oh who's that on the couch
and she's like oh that's
Lucy that's Peter
Gallagher's fiance
and Bill Palman like takes a look and is just like
that's not Peter Gallagher's
fiancee. His name is
also Peter in this movie right? That's confusing
me. It is Peter. Bill Pullman is Jack
Right. And he's like, oh, that's not Peter's fiancé. So then, like, the next morning, he's kind of, like, grilling a little bit because he's suspicious of what the situation is here.
Peter's fiance wears honky pants.
Yeah, and, you know, he's grilling her, and she's, like, instantly uncomfortable.
Like, they have a fun little flirtatious, contentious relationship kind of a thing.
Their chemistry is great, though. Like, I think, I think they make it work in this.
movie. I guess maybe not everyone does, but it totally works for me. I just don't get why he's
immediately like interrogating her. I wonder if that means he met Ashley. Yeah, because he's so
confidently says that's not Peter's fiance. Right. I think he must sometimes talk to Peter
Gallagher and Peter Gallagher was like, I'm dating a terrible blonde woman. This nice brunette and he's
like, I'm pretty sure that's not it. Yeah, like, I don't think.
that they're like double dating or anything
like that. I don't think they have any social
relationship with each other.
Chicago's not that big a town. You run into people
when you get to go outside. I feel like it's more
like Peter Gallagher is sending him
like in the mail pictures of her
and the letter that says you could
never get a woman like this
to Bill Pullman every once
a while just because like I really
they don't think they like each other
at all. You know and
once we get to see Peter's
apartment, this time I was getting real
like Patrick Bateman vibes from him.
So I don't want
to say I agree with you, Chris, but
maybe I could agree with you.
Instead of women's heads, he's got
Baskin Robbins.
Just a bunch of fucking Baskin
Robbins, like a baby.
It's true. He's having really
seedy orgies in that house. It's him,
a lady, his left eyebrow, his right
eyebrow. They're all going
for it. You know the other apartment that
it totally reminded me of, though, is
Rob Lowe's apartment in Wayne's World.
because he's got another
like Chicago high-rise apartment
I believe
excellent
Mike Myers walking around the apartment
oh so there's a fucking
hilarious thing though
she gets like
like his effects
I guess you still
like the stuff that was on him
like at the time like in his coat
yeah the hospital like gives her the bag of stuff
including his wallet
one of the funniest things and it's like
it's supposed to speak to the character
of Peter Gallagher, but I feel like it's a little overboard in that the only photographs he
has in his wallet are just posed pictures of himself.
That's another Patrick Bateman thing.
Like Sears portraits, though.
Yeah.
They're not him actually playing tennis.
It's just him dressed for tennis with a tennis racket in front of a...
Yeah, he's in a costume.
Yeah.
It's like that thing with Krusty, all the different roles.
Like, look at my reign.
Oh, you're totally right.
It's Peter Gallagher dressed up as a cop.
This movie is really a story of how Lucy avoids being murdered by him.
Yeah, totally.
She avoids getting a chainsaw dropped on her head.
Instead falls in love with the murderer's brother and has to live with what she missed out on.
Man, the murderer's brother.
That's actually the sequel to While You Were Sleeping was the murderer's brother.
Oh yeah, like the day after Peter Gallagher gets out of the hospital,
Allie Walker goes missing.
There's a weird thing around here where Bill Pullman's like going around looking for her or something.
and he runs into Jackie Appreel, Joey Jr.,
just calling him by a Sopranos name, I apologize.
Joey Jr.
I've never watched Sopranos,
which is why I didn't get it the first time you've referred to him.
I was also saying it's incredibly weird
because I mostly know him as Jackie April from the Sopranos.
So it's weird to see him not playing like an evil gangster,
which is weird.
But this is the scene where Bill Pullman's like,
oh, do you know her or something?
He's like, know her, I'm dating her.
And I'm like, fuck, this dude is delusional.
it's creepy as all
I mean like not that like
I don't think that she's encouraging him
but I think she could do a better job
of being like dude you need to get the fuck
away from me
she's doing a lot of that
he lives there
his father owns the building
like he's yeah
I mean I guess I wouldn't renew my lease
is the idea I know moving is expensive
and nobody wants to do it but you know what
if someone's smelling the under part of your door
you gotta get out of it also but the bigger
thing here is that Bill Pullman would
have to be a grade A moron to believe that this guy is telling him the truth when he says
that. Like you meet this guy who's honky, like spitting on the ground, like picking his nose
and he says, yeah, that's my girlfriend. And you're like, yeah, yeah, that squares. That makes
sense. Right. But so yeah, this is, speaking of the apartment, this is where she goes, because
you know, all his information is in there. So she goes to the apartment to see what's going on.
is, oh, that's why she goes, actually, because she finds a can of cat food in the bag.
So it's like, oh, fuck, better go see what's up with this cat.
It's been days.
Goes to this killer apartment.
And speaking of killers, Bill Pullman is stalking her, kind of, like, he also goes over to the house.
Although good physical comedy here, she fucking slams the door in his face, which was pretty great.
He's like, oh, I got you.
The parents got you an engagement prison.
You want to bring it in?
and it's this enormous couch.
Oh, right.
Yes, that's what they're, yeah.
Which doesn't fit in this guy's apartment at all.
Like, the aesthetic is very, you know,
American Psycho, this is all in the family.
It's not the same sort of situation.
Yeah.
Oh, I think the couch thing is later.
This is like,
they're just like looking around or something.
Oh, okay.
And, um, yeah, it's like, oh, oh, oh, that's what it is.
Like, oh, Peter doesn't have a cat.
Oh, right.
Going around the apartment, like, here, kitty, kitty, kitty.
Like, oh, Peter doesn't have a cat.
And then rear, here comes this cat.
So it's like,
who was saved again, I guess, somehow.
This is all leading up to, like, Bill Pullman pulling and inherent the wind in the fucking hospital.
And, like, trying to press her on, like, all these details about it, including some incident about him losing his testicle through a pencil.
Yeah.
So they go back to the hospital to donate blood.
And so, you know, Bill Pullman's like, we can take my car.
And they go to the hospital.
They're donating the blood.
and then he's like asking these questions
and this is like
he tries to like chase after her
after they gave blood and he passes out or something
which happened the only time I gave blood
as well really I was not
chasing after anyone
well that's good but I did pass out because I was
trying to get back to AP English
oh man oh so you pass out in school
hallway pass out what are we talking
another classroom oh you would have seen
not in the nurse's office no in public pass out
yeah that stinks it did and you
Oh, you would have seen a leisurely stroll from me.
I do love, but by the way, the hospital calls Sandra Bullock, and she has to tell the family,
she's like, oh, you know, the hospital called me and said it's in tradition to give
blood for the family to come and give blood or something like, hey, you want to come back and
visit this guy?
He's been in a coma, like a couple days now.
No one's been here for three days.
Maybe just stop on in.
I love that as like the hospital being.
like a college is calling alumni.
Do you want to come back
and give more blood? I know like it's been
like seven months since your father
was here, but you could just come and give
more blood. And then instead
they curse them out. They're saying, I'm still
paying my loaves on that
blood. I will not give you more blood.
Still paying my hospital
bills from the last visit.
What the hell though? I mean, you know, and I'm no
doctor. Sure. But
like if someone's in a coma, why do you have to
fucking give blood to them? I think because
you want to have a blood bank.
You're not trying to get it for Peter Dalliger.
You're just trying to get blood to have.
That's what I, but, but I thought the reason they're doing it is because of Peter.
What is the, I mean, maybe he needs, maybe you need more blood when you're in a coma, something, something.
I don't know.
None of us are doctors.
No, none of us actually.
No one here is a doctor.
I mean, like I said, the doctors are mostly talking about what they're going to have for lunch in this movie.
Yeah, that's true.
But again, it's the week between Christmas and.
New Year's. I don't get anything productive done the week between Christmas and New
years. Ever. But you're not a doctor, Chelsea. That's true. Well, but come on, like medical
emergencies around the holidays, man, you've got your Christmas lonely heart suicides,
obviously, but you know, you don't need the hospital for those. It should be a light
week. It should be a light week all over the place. So between Christmas and New Year's,
everybody, stop getting sick, stop having accidents. Let's all just take the week off. Enough with your
Comas
and says Andrew
Drupin.
Exactly.
How depressing
is the week
between Christmas
and New Year's
going to be this year?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
It usually is a
great week
and now it's just
going to be like every other day.
The saddest worst week.
No,
we're going to have a vaccine
on election day.
But only for certain people.
Oh,
yeah, I finally get to
get a black out drunk
for the first time.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Totally.
Yay.
Let's, you know what?
We'll set a goal.
and then the next day we'll try to beat it.
Yeah, no, the ball thing, Kevin, that you were talking about.
So Bill Pullman is really, like Steve said,
pulling and inherit the wind in this room.
Like, you got to fucking tell us, you got to prove it.
What's the hard evidence?
Is that and the other thing?
And then she just blurts out he only has one testicle.
And they're like, okay.
And this is like a blink and you miss it moment
from earlier in the film where like she bumps into a buddy of his,
like a work buddy.
Yeah.
And it's some miscommunication and he, oh, because he's like, oh, the accident, blah, blah, blah.
And she's like, the accident.
And he thinks it's like that she's implying it wasn't an accident.
He was like, I definitely did not break one of his testicles on purpose.
Of course not.
Yeah, like he says something about like we were playing basketball and I had a pencil on me.
What the fuck?
A pencil in his back pocket.
Like I'm not a lawyer or a man.
So I don't know if that's a thing.
Either way, if basketball is being played, pencils are out of the pockets.
What do we talk?
And also, are we talking like, oh, we're just at a hoop that's around the office?
Or like, did this guy suit up in shorts and put a pencil on those pants?
Actually, now that I think about, like, what kind of a loser this guy is, like, yeah, maybe he did have a pencil in his pocket because maybe he was too nervous to change into basketball shorts.
This all smells of like a sports club where like a racket club and like squash courts are also in.
And that's where they were doing their little basketball and all of a sudden a pencil fucking goes through his testicle and it looks like, you know, an olive and a martini glass.
Oh, cabin.
I'm trying to keep down dinner here, man.
Yeah, it's tough.
I mean, like, what a rough year for Peter Gallagher.
Exactly.
Bad time.
but so yeah she's like
he only has one testicle
it was a basketball accident
and they make
what's her name
McColl
the mother
he's like well I'm his mother I guess
and we're just like
looking at balls
in this movie for a little bit
it's kind of hilarious
because like
I do appreciate the shot
of like the look around the room
like who's gonna look
at Peter Gallagher's balls
I don't know
I'd volunteer first of all
her actual sex to me Sean's phone number
her actual name is
Midge in the movie?
No, it's not.
Is it?
Yeah, it is.
It's Midge.
I'm sure it's not her actual name.
No, no.
In the movie, the character.
No, I understand that, but I'm saying Midge is a nickname.
Right.
No, we know that.
Midge is a nickname for like Miriam.
Yeah, but we're just saying Midge and McColl.
It's hilarious.
She's literally listed as Midge in the credits.
I'm looking at them right now.
Hi, you, Midge.
Yeah.
I'm curious, so like, why not just ask the eyebrows?
Like, eyebrows, you guys would know better than any.
Are they, oh my God, are they in comas too?
Yeah.
Two eyebrow comas?
Separate eyebrow comas.
Yeah, they might be.
Little eyebrow doctor comes up to see them every day.
Looks at both of them.
Oh, how is Peter Gallagher doing?
Oh, I don't know.
I'm just an eyebrow doctor.
I do love the Glenys John.
I think it's Glenys Johns has this line.
Look on the bright side.
He's got more room in his jockeys.
Jockey shorts.
Yeah, it is Glenys Johns.
Which is kind of hilarious.
just have your grandmother talking about your broken balls
there's another oh speaking of creepy shit though
here's joey junior once again uh there's another he's like
fucking yelling at her on the staircase about not going to the ice capades
yes well this is when he goes in her apartment right like he's yelling about
about it and she like has to come in and like peter and uh i'm sorry
bill pullman is just following her around she's like oh my god
if anybody if he sees you here they'll know the jig is up or something
Yeah, well, this is the double dose of sitcom shit right here because Joey Jr. is like sexually harassing her or whatever in the apartment. And then there's a knock at the door and it's Saul. And so she's like, you got to fucking hide in the closet or whatever. And then there's like, I think is this when he's like, look on hip to everything that's going on here? You got to tell them. Yeah, here's my note. Saul comes over and tells her like he knows the truth. You know, I overheard you, blah, blah, blah.
but he's like, you got to, is it he or she makes the decision of, like, you have to stick to it until, that's what it is, because he's like, look, you know, you are sort of like the surrogate for Peter right now without you, they don't have him, so you got to stick around until he wakes up.
He kind of, like, implies that, like, the entire family will die if she doesn't keep this up.
They're all going to turn to sand, you see, Lucy.
A little bit much.
Listen, you're going to do this for the next 10 years. Give me 10 years, Lucy.
Look, I understand. Sometimes a comer can take a couple of days, like sometimes, let's say, between Christmas and New Year's, or sometimes it could take the rest of a person's life. I'm asking you split the difference 10 years. 10 solid years with my family.
Look, all the furniture you want. I'll talk to Callahan. We'll have a little talk and we'll get you a lot of tables.
but then this is like he leaves and as soon as he leaves then it's a knock on the door like
Bill Paulman it's a hilarious like this is so sick on me to the point where he's like did I just
see Saul leaving a second ago and she's like yeah he had to something something don't ask me
about it but the important thing is as right before Saul comes and she's like okay oh gosh Joey
hide in my closet and yeah in between the two visits she opens the door and Michael
Rospoly is looking at her shoes or he's trying them on and yeah he falls over trying them on is
the thing yeah and she's like are you trying on my she's like no what are you talking about it's like
he says like his foot fell into it yeah just got wedged there uh so yeah this is when bill
palman's like there's a little family wedding present for you it's this disgusting couch but like
i do appreciate this is another cool move slick charming palman line right here she's
He sees this killer chair and she's like, wow, your family's so awesome.
This chair is great.
He's like, ah, that chair, how you like that chair?
She's like, yeah, this chair is the best chair I've ever seen.
And he's like, that's pretty cool.
I made it.
This disgusting couch over here, that's for you.
So then it's like a weird, he's like, I'm here to drop it off.
And she's like, how about we drop it off at Peter Gallagher's house?
Yeah.
Even though it fits much better in her apartment.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
It's all wrong for his apartment.
Absolutely.
It's all wrong.
Meanwhile, Michael Respoli is, like, going through her underwear drawer still.
Nice panties.
Yeah.
How about I keep about five of these for myself?
You got to, like, once he's been in your closet for even two minutes, you've got to, like, all right, the next day, just count down what's missing.
All right, what's missing?
And here's the thing.
For every item that's missing, that's one month free rent.
Or else you're telling the father that you're going to the cops and you're getting this dude arrested.
That's fair.
Look, Lucy, I would love to return your birth control pills to you,
but I would need a date for you to do that.
I can only give those back at the ice campaigns.
Joey Jr., you just stole a pack of mince off my nightstand.
I got a gun to this out towards Tins' head.
You wake up in the morning like, fuck, my toothbrush is missing again, motherfucker.
Because she's so desperate to get rid of him,
they go to Peter Gallagher's apartment
to drop off the love seat.
Yeah, and this is, I think, one of the most
completely unbelievable parts of this movie.
Bill Pullman driving this huge-ass moving truck,
front first parking space
in the fucking downtown Chicago sidewalk?
No way.
No way are you just sliding into three open parking spaces
with this huge truck?
Absolutely not.
I couldn't believe it.
there's parts in Harry Potter that are more realistic
but so yeah he slides in she makes some comment
about like oh well aren't you a little close to the car
in front of you you know and he's like no we gotta get this couch
out of here and they lug it back up there they fucking like totally
destroyed Peter Gallagher's apartment in the scene
but points off for Peter Gallagher and the design right here
like they jam this couch through the doorway
and Lucy like goes flying
and she knocks into a table
and it's like a vase with flowers falls over
but he has like dyed
the water in the vase
blue and it like stains the carpet
like a fucking cleaning commercial example
this is like this is an 80s thing
this is not a mid-90s thing
like I know he's supposed to be a yuppier or whatever
come on but it's a total fucking Patrick Bateman
move once again man
this is really something
she really dodged a bullet
Huey Lewis posters are
everywhere just warning signs left
While you were sleeping, I escaped your clutches.
Oh, no, I found your collection of torsos. Oh, boy.
But this is where, you know, Bill Pullman gives her the spiel about, like, you know, how he likes building all this furniture.
He's really good at it. He can get good prices for this stuff. And he's not crazy about the family business, which is a ghoulish operation where they, like, go around estate sales and get fucking dead people's furniture.
very ghoulish. I know somebody's got to do it, but man, what a creepy job.
The problem here is that he acts like Peter Boyle, friendly, lovely Peter Boyle is like overshadowing him and like, it's like haunting him at nights about like taking over the business.
And I'm like, it's Peter Boyle. He doesn't care.
I don't know. I mean, like Peter Boyle, lest you be reminded, is built like Frankenstein.
You know what I mean? Like I am.
If Peter Boyle tells me to jump, I say how high.
That's kind of where I'm at.
Yeah, he's not someone I want to disappoint.
No way.
You don't want to cross him either, though.
But I'm so far away from taxi driver at this point.
I remember him as Ray Romano's father, mostly right around here.
Well, I'm sorry that you fucking wasted time watching that obnoxious sitcom.
I've seen enough of it.
Yeah, I've seen an episode.
I've never seen an episode of everybody who loves Raymond.
Really?
Never.
It's fine.
It's just, you know, the paint is drying and you need something to watch.
I mean, I've seen like bits and pieces, but it's the same thing like that fucking Big Bang theory. Absolutely not.
Oh, it's much better than Big Bang. Oh, yeah, much better. It would almost have to be, I would wager.
It's got Brad Garrett in it. Brad Garrett's wonderful. Raymond.
Yeah, so we knock over the water and everything. And then in, this is like another actually totally unbelievable thing. It's like Chicago in the fucking ass end of December. And they're like, oh, we got blocked in. Because sure enough, another car.
pulled up right behind Bill Pullman's truck and they can't get out and he's like well I'll just walk you home and they take like this sightseeing walk of Chicago to get back to her apartment and like they would have frozen to death like this is a long walk and talk montage getting a lot of Chicago sites in here which is cool I don't think they filmed it in winter but they do a really convincing job yeah if they didn't point high marks in
this movie. Because everyone would be bright red
in every scene if they did.
So I
saw them filming the night
before that Christmas movie with Seth
Rogan and Joseph Gordon and Anthony
Mackie. Fun movie. In
August, in the Lower East Side
in New York. And then when we saw that movie
and it looked convincingly, like they
weren't all drenched in. And again,
August, they were outside in like Christmas
sweaters. Like thick
wool Christmas sweaters.
I'd rather be dead. That movie deserves.
an Oscar for makeup for the fact
that they didn't look like they were melting.
You're absolutely right. And this movie may be
another one where again, I don't
know when they filmed. I think it was
fall because of a later when he
brings Dunkin' Donuts to Peter Boyle
it's got the fall leaves on
it when Duncan Donuts did his milk links.
Is that right? Wow, you have
seen this movie.
Once a choice. When you told me that
though about the night before because you were like walking to
or from work or whatever you worked in the lower side.
They filmed at 169 bar on East Broadway.
great bar. It is a great bar. I hope
it's still there. I hope anything is
still there. But you told me that and I
almost passed out thinking about how hot they
must have been making that movie.
Can't even imagine.
One of the weird things, so
like they have like a lot of different
talking points. This is like a real getting
to know each other. They're starting to fall in love.
Talking, sharing
some dad memories, this, that,
the other thing. There's one point where
they walk by this couple that's just
making out on a bridge and Bill
moment like does like the double take like kind of just looks like say wish I was doing that with
this lady yeah hey Lucy do you see them making out right here yeah I know my brother is
clinging to life but I'm gonna try and fuck his fiance yeah I'm a good guy would you like to do
some mouth activity with me Lucy it's negative 10 degrees he's probably freezing the only time
I was in Chicago in the winter my scarf froze to my face that was a bad time you know I mean
good time but a bad event that happened during
a good time. It's crazy. If you
if you really stop and consider the weather
of this scene, this scene is preposterous. Lucy, would you accompany me
to go buy myself some long underwear?
Well, because that's and here's the thing, unless
this had just happened, unless this was just left
on the street corner, there is a moment in this
in this walk and talk where Bill Poman steps in a pile of shit
and it's like a
now again
Chicago Winter
this thing's freezing
before it hits the sidewalk
you know what I mean
I would like it
if he it's it's warm
that he can actually press down
but then it won't let go
I'm stuck in some shit here
I'm stuck in some freezing shit
frozen to the ground loose teeth
got to cut my leg off
but they get back to her building
and then proceed to slip
on ice for five and a half minutes
Yeah, I mean, I'll just walk around the ice, everybody.
Yeah, I don't know if they don't want to, like, walk on the lawn or something,
the snow-covered lawn, but like Bill Pullman starts falling and she starts slipping
and they have like a big hug kind of a thing here.
But it takes a little, like this movie is like an hour and 47 minutes.
You could have got down to at least like a buck 42 if you cut out some of this ice.
These are some ice capades right here, actually.
she finally got to the ice cafe
two minutes I might find this charming
five and a half minutes
I'm like just walk like people
I beg of you
when his pants finally do rip though
it's really good folly work on the
pant rip noise totally
nice job with that as a man that's split a few pants
it's absolutely here
I once saw Steve destroy
a pair of jeans with a pool cue and I still
don't understand the physics behind it
but these things
tore. It was, it's a real
unsolved mystery. I was leading
over for a shot and
it happened. Luckily
it was, we were in college and my dorm
was across the street. I just kind of like
held my pants and I was like,
I will see you a gentleman later.
Did you have your Spider-Man boxers on that
day? No, no. Thankfully not.
There is
a, it's a weird
like, I know you're trying to just be a shiverous
fucking boomer here, Bill
Paulman, but like, he's
He's dropping her off after all the ice and whatever.
And she's like, cool, we'll have a good night.
And he's like, no, no, I'll wait until you get inside.
Like, you're not dating this woman.
Like, you got her back.
Like, go slip on the ice again.
Would you know?
He's making moves on his brother's fiancé while his brother clings for his last breath.
I don't know if it's that bad of a coma.
She sees, she watches him, like, walk away.
Yeah, she gets back up to the apartment and looks back out the window.
And boy, you see that pant tear, though, to really just savage a pair of dungarees like that by falling on ice?
My God, his hip must be broken.
Which was worse? That or Steve with the pool.
Oh, Steve with the pool.
The whole leg was shredded.
It was demolished, and I don't know how it happened.
It was like those jeans had a self-destruct button on them.
And the genes were like, you know what?
I've had enough and pressed it themselves.
I love it.
shredded.
Absolutely.
It was like I turned into the Incredible Hulk,
but only from my ass.
Steve,
I've been there.
Steve,
these pants will self-destruct in 10 seconds.
There's a great move around here
where her boss recommends
that she fucking murders Peter Gallagher.
Well,
because she keeps going to her boss for advice
and everyone's giving me the worst advice.
The only advice you can give this woman is like,
listen, I know it's going to be tough
and it's going to be really awkward.
you see the whole sit the whole family down explain yourself and then creep away you never have to see them again but you owe them that much but the boss's like well you're in it now you just got to let this happen and i'm like what are you talking about what this is where he's like oh you do is just pull the plug and she's like she kind of for like half a second goes with it and it's like no wait no that's insane what you have to do you see is to change your name get on a plane
to bury yourself because zero no getting out of this one here's the thing
You're wrapped up in this crazy lie that is just instantly was blown way out of proportion, totally out of control.
You moved to the city because your father needed to go to a research hospital.
This dude's dead.
You're wrapped up in the shit.
You know what?
Move back to Indiana.
Yep, exactly.
Absolutely.
This does have the trailer line of, you're dating a vegetable.
The boss is that to her?
You're cheating on a vegetable, I'm sorry.
And the boss is saying that to her, yes.
Oh, you're cheating on a vegetable.
This is where Bill Pullman goes to the hospital and has the heart to heart with in still in the coma, Peter Gallagher.
And what he starts off with is, you know, I was thinking the other day about the time back in the fifth grade when I started to get really good at poker.
I was like, what child gambler is this?
I want that movie.
He's telling it can be a rough town.
I don't know.
He's telling Peter Gallagher's, yeah, you know, and I was,
and mom and dad were like really upset with me, but I was like,
be like your brother and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, this is weird.
This is a very bizarre situation.
He should at least be conscious to hear this.
Clearly you've wanted to say this shit to him forever, kind of a thing.
There's a weird, again, just like stuff you don't want to hear from a total stranger.
So where are you guys going on your honeymoon?
We didn't even touch on the pregnancy thing, right?
That hasn't happened yet.
It's about to happen pretty much.
First, there's a, I will say, delightful scene, family dinner that it's just like, everyone's having a different conversation.
It's fantastic.
I love this scene.
The scene is something that I've returned to many times throughout my writing career.
I love the dinner scene.
Love, love, love.
I don't care if it's a movie.
I think it's great.
we love this movie if we are Chelsea
we all love it
if we are Chelsea
if we are Chelsea we love this movie
but yeah
this is the honeymoon talk
she's grilling him and it's like
help me set up
Jack with someone and he goes
I like chubby blondes
yeah and somebody's like oh you know you like
brunettes Monica Keenan says you like brunettes
oh well then well because there's some
there's another line about like
something something Peter's
type and then they're like we all know who peter's type is it's you again you're fucking our son
thank you thank you so much oh god a lot about tall actors and beef and it's what is that so okay
you said beef so this is this is classic Andrew writing stuff in his notes and I don't
clarify or contextualize why I'm taking the note why did I write and Chelsea this is for you
specifically. Why did I write in my notes, all capital letters, beef and Nazis?
Well, because that's, I'm pretty sure a line. I pulled up the, I pulled up the transcript
to this scene. Excellent. Yeah, that it's like Argentina has good beef, beef, and not
that's right. That's what it is. Saul says it, because they're talking about tall actors and
beef. And so then, I'm not going to read the whole thing. I could, but that's a very, very different.
But you just reminded me because, yeah, so they're cross-talking.
Everyone is cross-talking.
Where to get the best beef and where to go on the honey.
Some of us find it delightful.
It's fine.
I mean, it does make sense that Jack Wharton would know all that because he does, he treats all this like he's a spy master.
There is the hilarious line, though.
I think it's Peter Boyle's making fun of Dustin Hoffman.
He's like, can you imagine Dustin Hoffman saving the alamo?
That little short bastard.
You know, it's a real fuck you to Dustin.
I mean, they've definitely crossed paths.
Peter Boyle and Dustin Hoff?
For sure.
They must be in the same movie at some point, too.
Was Peter Boyle and Tootsie?
No.
I mean, just, I'm thinking like 70s movies, you know.
Yeah, just some like real scum shit that you've probably never even seen.
Like those, like, secret movies.
Yes, exactly.
I just imagined Peter Boyle being in a hood.
Yeah, I met Dad Hoffman.
He stole my Coke.
Had a perfectly good mirror of Coke ready to go.
And Dustin Hoffman just took it.
That's what you could.
That's fucking fit for.
for a t-shirt cap and Dustin Hoffman stole my
Coke.
Oh, well, we have a really
uncomfortable
I keep wanting to say
Yule Tide. What am I saying? Missile Toose
scene. Because they're going
to leave or whatever and it's like, oh, look what happened.
You're both under the missiles. And this is Bill
Pullman and Sandra Bullock. Incredibly
uncomfortable. And the whole family's like, kiss her.
Kiss her. Kiss her. Kiss her. Kiss her. And the
move is the cheek, but they go
full on lips and they just kind of do a quick kiss.
kind of thing. Is it a peck? What are we talking
here? It's a quick. It's a quick pack. Oh, come
on. Come on. Taste your sister-in-law.
Don't just peck.
Missile-toe is such a nuisance. If anyone is
actually buying and hanging mistletoe,
please don't. Like, what do you expect? What is
happening? You know what? Here's the thing. You know what should be
canceled is mistletoe? Stop forcing
me to kiss strangers. Yeah. It's
we're trying to teach kids now.
You don't have to hug them, blah, blah, blah.
Let's do all this.
Missile Toe was canceled.
We're done with Missile Toe.
You guys actually giving in and kissing when you're under a mistletoe?
I don't know if I've ever actually been under mistletoe.
I think I've only seen it in TV and been angry about it for the TV characters.
I've been forced into it.
Oh, come on.
Who are you kissing?
Well, certainly no one since you.
We've never been under a mistletoe.
But, you know, there were some years, you know, B.C.,
before, Chelsea. But under
mistletoe, you am. I can hear
the sweat from here, Andrew.
I'm going to be watching him close this
holiday season. But that's the other thing, though.
I think, though, it's also
a thing you don't really see anymore.
Like, I can't remember the last time I saw
someone actively hanging mistletoe.
Trader Joe's was selling mistletoe
last Christmas, and I was like, oh, this is cute.
I'll buy some. And then I was like,
who comes to your house? Like, the guys,
they're all, like you guys to come over
recording we're all going to kiss each other
under the mistletoe. Uh-oh, Chris and Eric, you're
under the mistletoe. Catch her! Catch her!
Kiss him! Or like, God forbid, if I'm
taking out the garbage and then I have to kiss one of you
guys, like, no offense, but I don't want to do that.
Chelsea, you misunderstood. They were selling
mistletoe as a green.
Oh, you had to be salads.
For salads. I forgot.
It's really good with kale.
Yeah. As Batman returns, teaches
us, mistletoe can be deadly if you
eat it. Oh, right.
Oh, is it?
That's just a line in that movie.
I don't know if that's true.
I never sourced it.
But just like those rancid poinsettias, dude.
Oh, that's true.
Only plants in my house are ones that I can eat in a pinch.
Or smoke at a pinch.
Absolutely.
So, Sandy's back at work.
This is where, like, young...
We finally meet Celeste.
Finally, she gets a friend.
And Mary, I think, is the younger sister,
comes through, like, with a buddy or something.
Her buddy is now the lead on high school musical,
the series.
Is that right?
Yes.
Wow.
Is this person a known...
She's a theater actor, yeah.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, yeah. It's a fun show.
You said it's like...
I heard that, oh boy, from you, Chris Cabin.
I don't know.
Chris Cabin, not a fan of Disney Plus original programming for the most part, I feel.
Did he not like the man...
No, I like Mando.
No, but that's why I said for the most part.
Okay.
It's a Mando or Bus situation.
I haven't really ventured outside of there, I'll be honest with you.
I don't know that I have either.
I tried watching some ocean documentary one time.
it didn't get me where I wanted to go
but yeah so this is like
the friends come into the booth
I don't remember the series of events here
but this is where the daughter
overhears and thinks
well thinks that she overhears
that Sandra Bullock is pregnant
oh because it's like oh yeah
fiance and then Celeste is like you didn't tell me
you were pregnant and then she says to her
because that's what it is Luce's line
is like oh well it was really sudden
or whatever and she's like are you pregnant
and then again Sandra Bullitt
like, not, this is the fucking third time in this movie.
She goes, yeah, I'm pregnant, but doesn't do it sarcastically enough.
And then, so the girl is like, oh fuck, oh fuck, I've got some hot goss.
Oh, fuck.
My future sister-in-law, she's also pregnant.
What this scene made me think about this time, though, is what is the geography of this
movie?
Like, so where is Lucy Station?
What is it by?
Is it by where the gal, or the, I was going to call them the Gallagars because I just
assumed they're all the garlanders, yeah, yeah.
Like, is it by
their house? Where?
Well, because the family appears to live, like,
in, you know,
obviously not downtown, more suburbsy.
Sandra Bullock takes a cab
to the place.
But then, yeah, like, the little girl
or the teenage girl is
out and about. I don't know
that they ever show, because I was looking
for it, because I was really curious, like, oh, what
station does she work at?
Right. And I never saw a
sign. I don't know if she mentions it in the opening
monologue. You can see it. There is a
shot. I forget what it is, though, but I remember
seeing the name very clearly.
Every Chicago listener, please
tweet at all of the guys.
Oh, please. Every single
station that you see it at any
single point. I think it was the one, I think
it's the shot when she goes to get Gallagher
when he falls into
the tracks. Oh, okay.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Totally like
not important detail, but
The Ashley, the other fiancee has been calling Peter Gallagher's answer.
We're just cutting to this answering machine every now and again and she's leaving like increasingly annoyed messages like why aren't you calling you back.
It's like rent.
It is, but it's like rent.
There's a lot of answering machine.
Oh, sure, a little answering machine play.
Also takes place between Christmas and New Year's.
Oh, right.
There's a big blackout every time it happens and then we open on this bizarre fucking answering machine.
And then, like, this woman has to be like,
hi, you know how we used to date.
And now we're not dating anymore.
And you proposed to me, but I said no.
But now I want to say yes.
So, but she's just, like, reading the script.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know, it's not quite as good an answering machine movie as sneakers.
But it's like a song number two.
I'm due for a sneakers really well.
Oh, man.
It's the best.
Sneakers, I think, is the ultimate answering machine movie.
Yeah, it's the key one.
Is that a more highbrow comparison than mine of rent?
Is that what you're saying?
That is we're hiding out than rent.
That's theater.
Is it in the Columbus version?
Probably.
I think they cut all the answering machine stuff from the movie.
I don't know.
And that's why it failed.
You were just one and done with the rent movie?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wish I could say the same.
Why have you seen it more than once?
Because friends of the show, Justin J. Case and Sean Weiner were like hilariously,
like I think also slightly ironically into it.
So like Cabin, when you were living in Williamsburg,
That movie was on a little bit.
We were singing that fucking living in America at the end of the millennial.
JJ was a big fan.
JJ remains a big fan, I believe.
I mean, my dream is a rent episode, but I just don't know if we could make it happen.
I just feel like we'd get run out of town.
I just feel like.
I mean, I feel like I'm already getting to live my dream talking to my friends about while you were sleeping and having it be a podcast episode.
But if there were ever a rent episode.
Well, because you
I mean, you know a lot about
the stage musical. Yes.
And, you know, you came from the theater
world, but like, do you
think, because there's still like rent heads
out there, even though there's been like a little
bit of a reckoning with that production
just as far as like, yeah,
let's all fucking come down to reality, go get
a job, and fucking burn the candle at both ends
like the rest of us already.
But, like, did
the rent heads, like, well, the rent heads
didn't really transfer over to the movie, because the
movie was kind of universally shit on.
I really don't know anyone who liked the movie.
So we could, so Steve, we could get away
with it. We'll see what happens. We would have Chelsea
back on, but like, so Chelsea, you
think, though, there wouldn't be this internet backlash
that Steve is worried about?
I don't think so because I think
Rent heads as they were
hated the movie. Right.
And also, I mean, if you're defending the
rent movie, let's fucking find something else
to die on a hill for it. They might not like
the fact that I'm going to sing a lot in that
episode.
and very little
if it's going to be good
I wouldn't know how not to
how do you know
you gotta talk about it
you gotta think about it
it's hard enough not to be doing it now
I just did a little bit of it terribly
it was fun
so oh so around here
is again
the escalation of Joey Jr.
Thank God this movie ends
before he inevitably murders her
because he shows up
to the apartment
with a fucking
horseshoe wreath like you get at the race track
I thought at first that it was like a heart that he stole from like a funeral parlor situation.
That's what I thought so too.
That was the joke, but it's a funnier joke, obviously, if he stole it from a funeral parlor.
Because also what horse racing is going on in December in Chicago?
Well, he makes some reference of like, oh, it's it's just like they give in the winner's circle.
So he had them recreate a horse.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
A champion's wreath of flowers that you would see in a winter circle at a horse track.
That's a choice.
All right.
And I don't know what his logic is.
Like, it's the thing that gives you the most flowers.
Something like that.
At some point, at some point she has the door closed on him locked and he's like, I've got a key.
And she's like, that's against the law.
I'm like, dude, you've got to get out of this place.
Like, be looking for a new apartment.
Also, Joey Jr., here's the thing, man.
We all know that you, one, know her work schedule.
two that means you are keying in to sniff some panties and try on some shoes while she's gone
like you don't need to mess up your arrangement that you have with yourself here and her apartment
by telling her reminding her that your father has the keys to the apartment also joey junior as we all know
i mean he's not just sniffing panties and you know taking undergarments of such he's eating food
out of your fridge absolutely your leftovers are completely gone she's just like i could have sworn
I had a half a container of Kongpah chicken in here.
If you have any ice cream, it's gone.
You know what?
That's, oh, that's the move.
She discovers what he's doing with the food.
And then she starts poisoning leftover containers.
I like this.
I like that one.
In an effort to trap him and finally rid herself
of the serial killer that is Joey Jr.
The problem is when the poisoning goes awry,
he's definitely shitting in her bathroom.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she's like, you know, kind of explaining to him, like, that she is in love with someone or whatever.
Because this is where he's got some line, like, it's like seeing your first transam.
I get it now.
Speaking car terms.
I understand love.
But, like, Bill Pullman here sees her, like, hugging him or whatever.
And this leads to the creepy, like, lean-in discussion that's going on.
He follows her.
It's New Year's Eve.
She's going to go, right?
This is all one night.
Yep, you're totally right.
So she's going to go to this New Year's party.
He's like, well, I got a, I got a folly you.
And she's like, okay, cool.
And we go to this woman Celeste's house and everybody's there.
And by everybody, I mean, the woman she works with and her boss.
Well, that's the thing.
This is a packed party.
It's like she knows the two people.
But question here, though, because the Bill Pullman's thing is like, oh, I'll give you a ride to the party.
And she's like, it's pretty close.
You don't have to do that.
I thought the gag was going to be.
She lived like a block away.
that would have been a funny physical comedy gag
but he's like
no no no I insist like let me drive you but then
he like sidles
his way into this party
you cannot crash a New Year's Eve
party well with this many people
it's a little easier but I do agree it's
kind of a thing like it's a holiday party you need to be
advice invited
right yeah and I think they even like
Celeste is kind of like who the fuck
you just you bought a stranger to my holiday party
okay there's like a bunch of people and like
I find Bill Pullman attractive but
Like, they're like, oh my God, look at him.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Bill Pullman.
Well, he is attending this nice New Year's Eve party still dressed like he's been moving furniture all day.
Yes.
So that might have been what at least some of the looks can account for.
Yeah.
And she's about to take a drink.
He's like, you can't do that.
What about the baby?
Oh, right.
It's not good for the baby.
And everyone screams and it's a record scratch moment.
It is a douche chill man.
This is asshole clenching embarrassment.
Yeah, it's tough.
This is when they leave the party and he has this whole conversation like, well, what
are you doing? Are you pregnant or not? She's like, no, I'm not. And then she's like,
well, you're fucking Joey Jr. He was doing a lien. And it's like, I don't know, man. Could
you stop stalking me for four fucking minutes? No, seriously. Show me proof. Show me proof you're
not pregnant. I want to see it. Here's this bottle of whiskey. You're going to drink the whole
thing in front of me and then you're going to smoke this bag of cigarettes. Prove you're not
pregnant.
And what is she, does she say to him, are you the happiness guru?
Right.
Yeah.
That, like, they're, they're just kind of fighting about, like, family and each other.
Right.
Basically being in love with each other, but not being able to say so because she's
sort of engaged to his brother, but not really.
Right, right, right.
Well, because nobody expects him to live.
Right, exactly.
Everyone's pulling for death here.
She, she says the line, like he says, you don't know my family.
something like that, like, you're not an expert
of my family. She goes, spending
a lifetime with them hasn't made you one either.
And I, it was
20 years ago, but I remember the
theater, there was, oh.
Oh, really?
Wow. Nice.
Audible, like, audience reaction to it.
Oh, that's fucking awesome.
Yeah. Like a fucking full-on
auditorium of, oh, she fucking got
him. Exactly. Like, it was
a TV studio audience.
It's a good line.
he also has a fucking because he's trying
he's doing a bad
job at trying to recommend
that she like take a chance
on all the travel that she's talking about
because she mentioned something about how her dad
loved maps and they would always like
pick a location and then the hobby
was like track like
plan the route of how they're going to get there
or whatever and he goes
would your father be happy
that you're a toll booth operator
oh dude low blow man
come on dude you're fucking moving dead
people's furniture.
God damn.
At least she had to work for that job.
Your daddy gave it to you, dude.
Totally. You're a nepotistic fucking
furniture mover, dude. Let's dial it
back a little bit. But while
all this is happening, Peter wakes
up.
Whilst the hospital
staff is singing one of my favorite holiday
songs, Old Lanzine, love it.
Love it. That song will fucking bring me to tears.
Great tune. He wakes up
to nobody. Nobody's
there because everyone's just like oh whatever the way you would you give us a call if he gets up he'll
be fine right what the hell's jack warden doing on new year's eve like go to the hot what are
do do we know what they do on new year's eve because she goes to her party separately yeah and
bill palman's with her but what's the rest of the family doing at home watching the honeymooners
they don't give a shit guys guys guys getting drunk watching the honeymooners like the rest of us do
on new year that's true guys calm down he has his eyebrows oh they're to console him
Bill.
And it's crazy that it's this laid into the movie, and we're only now really getting
Peter Gallagher as a performer in this movie.
It's very weird.
It is.
Yeah.
So he wakes up, and she goes, and she's like, oh, fuck, now I'm, we're all going to hell
tonight.
Again, like, I get that phone call.
I just grab all.
I get a go bag and I'm gone.
I'm in Atlantic City in 24 hours.
That's in your state still, see.
That's not very far.
Well, no, if I was Sandra Bullock, I'd go to Atlantic City.
That's where I'd go in.
I see, all right.
If you were Steve Saneck, you'd go to Chicago.
Exactly.
Flip-flop, criss-cross, applesauce.
But, yeah, she goes, and like, on the way in, she's like, oh, my God, I have to tell them.
And Jack Wharton's like, listen, don't tell them nothing.
I got it.
And now I'm like, fuck you, Jack Wharton.
Yep.
This should not be, because she's about to tell them, and he's like, no, no, no, don't do it.
Do not do it.
I will take care of this.
And, like, you are a dick, dude.
It's insane.
And I mean, is this also just still stemming from the fear of Glynis Johns is going to drop dead?
Well, no, at this point, he's got this other crazy plan going on where he's going to gaslight and guilt Peter Gallagher into loving her, thus keeping her in the family.
That's right.
I forgot about all this because, like, he wakes up and it's kind of a funny thing of the shot of him, like, looking around the room.
This is, this is the shot I was talking about where the eyebrows are going ape shit.
It is the eyebrows best scene in this movie.
they're happy to be alive.
They're like, they are.
But so he looks and it's, you know, like, you know, mom, dad, grandma, old Saul.
Righty, Bill.
And then fucking Sandy is at the last, you know, and he has the line like, who are you or whatever.
So Jack Wharton has this whole thing because they're like, oh, my God, he's got amnesia.
And he's like, you know, can I have the room for a minute with my godson?
And you're totally right, Steve.
This is exactly what he's trying to do is like, you know what kid, you spend two minutes
with her. And if you don't feel
in two minutes what it took us
fucking seconds to realize
about this angel that fell from heaven,
well, you're a fucking schmuck.
Or a potts, he's called him a potts.
Oh, and I guess I'm happier alive. Yes.
Nice to see you.
Could you imagine coming out of a coma?
You're like, oh my God, I was in a coma.
What day is it? What year is it?
And then there's this woman and everyone says you were
engaged. This would really, really
fuck you up. Like, sincerely
fuck you up in a big bad way. All events
called off. I got to tell you.
When something like this happens,
all events called off. We'll see what
happens when I'm back out of this.
Exactly, dude. Let's not make
any big life choices right now.
It's kind of like quarantine engagements.
You know, just take a little while.
Wait to see how that's all true.
Absolutely. Wait until there's a vaccine.
Yeah.
Now, we, it doesn't matter because this is all
in, you know, the Act 3.5 here.
But the first time of Jack Wharton being like,
don't worry I'm going to tell him he races off like a coward to go take a shit
yes and she's like wait where the fuck did he go
no you you think he's off to take a shit but he's actually he has to report back to
control and smiley
it's really something um yeah so then like he's like oh okay
I guess I will and like this is what Bill Pullman and him have this scene where he's
the orderly by the way the orderly in this movie uh is played by uh one of the
sylons from Battlestar Galactica.
No shit. Yeah. Yeah, he's
really fun on that show.
Good. Ah, I see. Yeah, I've still seen
precisely the first four episodes
of Battlestar Galactica. And that's
where it's stopped. I've seen two seasons. It's good.
Are you going through it right now,
or did you just watch two seasons? I watched
two seasons and then I got derailed and I've always
meant to go back, but I'm waiting for it to do it with my
watch. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Doesn't matter.
Sometime between Jack
Wharton taking a shit and Jack Wharton talking to
Peter Gallagher alone, it doesn't matter.
But this is where Bill Pullman says, Peter Boyle, like, hey, man, I don't want your
fucking eerie furniture business anymore.
You know, I want to build furniture.
I'm building furniture.
Like, this is my job.
And by the way, rent heads.
Bill Pullman's doing the right thing.
Work of the day job.
Burn the candle at both ends at night, building the furniture, man, trying to build up
that empire.
He's being a real Benny.
And, wow, nice.
And Peter Boyle's like, oh, really?
That's it.
She's kidding.
What she told me that years ago?
Because there can't be any conflict in this movie whatsoever.
That's fine. It's cute. It's fine. Don't worry about it.
It is kind of a funny thing, though.
Because so many plot lines that are similar to this are like, oh, I'm dreading this.
And like, just for example, our good friend Billy Campbell and Melrose plays.
He wanted to get out of Malachi Thrones fucking furniture business.
And that dude acted like a total douchebag about it.
So, like, that fear is totally real.
So it's kind of nice that this movie subverts that expectation of, oh, no, there's a big fucking scene
with Peter Boyle, they're going to get in a huge fight, and instead it's just like totally
diffused, mainly because the movie's pushing two hours. But it's like, look, Jack, it's probably
about time I tell you this. We were transporting drugs into furniture. That's our real business.
Yeah, Jack, I forgot to tell you, son. My nickname is a wizard. I used to be a cab driver in New York
City in the 1970s. You're making wood furniture. Yeah, there's nowhere to hide things in wood furniture.
stuffed couches, boy.
You know what, Raymore and Flanagan, that's the model.
Raymore and Flanagan, some of the best furniture drug dealers in the business, son.
Yeah, but it's 1995.
We're about to stop doing the overstuffed furniture.
Really, Bill Pullman got out when the going is good.
Oh, excellent timing.
This is very smart.
We're about to get to, like, sleek.
Ah, which is too bad because, like, a nice overstuffed couch.
It's good for a nap.
Thank you, Steve.
I like a firmer sofa.
Gotcha.
Yeah, do-do over here.
Yeah.
Chris Cabin's firm sofas.
I like a firm business you could have.
So, yeah, the whole thing about, like, just, you know, I'm going to gaslight you here, boy, like, you're going to fall in love with her.
Don't worry about it.
And, like, it works, though, because Peter Gallagher is just like, well, if she's good enough for my whole family, who I'm the black sheep of, kind of, but we don't really address it because you don't know anything about me.
like, well, she's good enough for me.
It's also because she's so charming.
And it's also because he's lost
about two thirds of his brain cells.
He's been in a coma for six days.
It's the equivalent of like butt chugging.
It's a weird line though, because he's like,
what does he say? He's like, she's not
your fiancee.
Dot, dot, dot, dot.
She's your guardian angel.
He says, oh, I don't, I don't
know what I love about her yet, but I'll spend
the rest of my life finding out.
that's a real look dude you're a fucking high price lawyer you don't need to settle in that way
it's not an arranged marriage dude speaking of arranged marriage i'm a little confused by the end of
this movie so the next thing we know fucking sandra bullock has this like i don't know this
musilini era wedding dress that she's trying on apollonia no i do not get this thing but my question
is like why does the wedding need to happen now i think it's because
he's all sort of like new lease
on life, I need to get married
right away. Yeah, he's gung-ho
about it. I'm going to change my life
around and stop murdering
prostitutes and chasing
them around in the hallway with a chainsaw
and I'm going to marry Sandra Bullock and I need to do it right now
so that I don't murder anyone else.
Or it's a weird, like, before I change
my mind. Yeah.
You know. Griff's fade quick, man.
We should say, what's her name comes back?
Walker shows up in the movie in
the flesh. She shows up to the
hospital and he basically is like
listen, I'm already
engaged and she's like yelling at him
and blah blah blah. There's this joke about
that he paid for her nose job
and her breast
augmentation. Yeah, that's something.
Well it's kind of weird
because she kind of
no, she definitely
does not have a leg to stand out in this movie
because he's like, she's like
you asked me to marry you first and he's like
Yeah, and you fucking said no.
Yeah.
So like, well, she's an impossibly bad character.
Yeah, no, it's awful.
It's an awful character.
Am I dreaming?
Did he say something about like hitting squirrels with rocks or something?
Yeah, so it's like this thing, here you go.
So it's this thing where like they saw that when he was a kid, he was so sweet and he saved a bunch of squirrels and it made the local newspaper.
But then he confesses to Bill Pullman.
First, I knocked them out of their nest with.
a rock and then I saved them so he's never been a good guy yeah he the only time he was ever good
it was actually a terrible shitty thing that he did that he then spun to be oh my god he's like
william hurt and broadcast news oh yes oh my god yep just living and laughing and lying
I'm just going to be dealing with this for the rest of this episode Jesus Christ but to
Chris's
way he introduced himself
on this episode. Bill Pullman is bringing him
Baskin Robbins during this conversation
because he's got like all of it
in his freezer. And what is the
we were disgusted last night.
It's the third or fourth Baskin Robbins plug
by the way. It is. Baskin Robbins
and Dunkin' Donuts paid a lot of money to
this movie. But
and again this is so sad that this is a movie
that I can be quoting so easily. But whatever.
This is why I'm here, I guess.
I could quote Weekend at Bernie's too.
Don't be in bed.
Go ahead.
So it's like, it's like, oh, this ice cream, this chocolate peanut butter is delicious.
And he's like, my tastes are so much better now that I'm out of a coma.
And Bill Pullman's like, cool, great.
But it's chocolate mint.
Yes.
That's disgusting to mix those two flavors up.
Chocolate and peanut butter and chocolate and mint.
You should not confuse with each other.
Peter Gallagher should be staying in the hospital if you have mixed that up.
That's a warning sign, I would say.
My dude has triple-digit brain cells at this point.
It's not good.
We don't see him leave the hospital.
He may not.
He's not at the post, at the epilogue stuff.
You're totally right, yeah.
Because they're getting married in the hospital.
He's in a hospital gown.
He puts a jacket on.
I'm like, someone needs to stop this.
We got to put the brakes on this.
It's very soap operas.
Soap operas loved a good hospital chapel wedding.
You know what this is?
This is like Shutter Island.
shit. Peter Gallagher went in there.
They put them in there on purpose.
That would be kind of
rad, dude. What a fucking totally sick
twist. I never saw
it. I did see lots of hospital
weddings on all my children, though, which is why I made
my reference.
Yeah,
so that's
kind of it. Like, there's a thing where she's
like, Saul, you're
fired and fucking
trying to like tell the truth here. And so
In the chapel, basically, like, it's a big coming clean thing.
It's like, she's taking it right up to the wire, though.
Like, she's walking down the aisle.
They haven't yet done the, does anyone object?
So she is technically ahead of the game.
Sure.
I'm just saying, like, in the grand scheme of, like, you should have told these people
eight days ago.
Oh, for sure.
You're really taking it up to the last second.
You're not wrong, but I'm just saying she did technically have one more beat.
right yeah she she she beat the beat
I must confess that when I was watching this the other night
and I was stoned out of my mind
when they ask of like does anybody
you know not want this to happen
I raise my hand a little bit
me they don't get to it though
that's the thing that's great though
because like the guy's like dearly beloved
and she's just like I object
totally cuts it off
and then her apology to the family
I know it's creepy.
I know it's rom-com creepy,
but it's also a movie.
It's not real life.
If I knew her in real life and she was doing this stuff,
I'd be like, you're insane
and you need to get in some serious therapy.
But like, it is weird the way we judge rom-coms
on a different, like, you guys are doing multiplicity coming up soon.
No one's like, excuse me, we can't clone humans.
We will.
I mean, I guess podcasts are,
but the point is like, I agree with you.
It's a movie.
Like, it's sweet, and she apologizes to the family.
And again, if it happened in real life, I'd be like, this is insane and we all need some therapy.
But in a movie, I'm like, this is so sweet, and I hope you marry Bill Pullman.
Do you think, though, that this could ever, like, let's say this actually happened.
Sure.
And the person perpetrating this ruse intentionally or just got carried away gives this speech.
And I think it's a very effective speech.
I think Sandra Bullock does a good job
like bringing home the emotion with it and everything.
And again, it really, I keep saying this
throughout this episode, but it really helps
that her entire family is dead and she has
no one. Yeah. Because it really
sort of gives her a little bit of an upper hand
here. Do you think that a real
life family would accept this apology?
No.
No, I mean, I think that's the thing is, I don't
think you'd ever talk to this person again. You know what I mean?
Like, you'd be like, this, that, and the other thing. I can't believe.
I mean, maybe Bill Pullman is like, yeah, you want to
just go for a drink and they like fuck and then he's like yeah that was enough
edla goes away maybe that's me being a horrible person which i am but i just don't i don't
foresee the forgiveness but that's just i think you're dead on i think you're dead on i think that's it
right there i think this is us being east coast people i'm forgetting that people from the
midwest are much nicer than that's a really good point very very observant well a lot of people from
the midwest are much nicer than we are you're more likely
to find a family like this in a Chicago
suburb than you are in
Queens or something. And we don't
know how long it is between
the wedding and when they forgive
her in the epilogue
scene. Right. It's still cold
out. I don't think it's... Well, but it's Chicago.
That means it's what, June?
Yeah, fair enough. I do also
think that there is something the undercoat
of this movie is that this family
fucking hates Peter Gallagher.
Yeah. Yeah. H-A-T-E-S this
dude. That's why they're not at the
they're not that like they're upset but they're not like i'm not going to go there twice in one day
i'm not going to sleep at the hospital you're totally right i mean because i think at the
beginning too like when they're all getting there or something they make because they're like
oh my god fiancee we even know we see it like they make some reference to like they
they hadn't seen him in a while they don't really know like what's going because he's the
black sheep he made all this money you know what i mean they he left the furniture business very
specifically yes i think i think normally if you're seeing that voice
voice mail cut. It's normally the mom being like, where are you? You coming to dinner? Where are you? We'll never see you anymore. We're having dinner. Your grandma misses you. You should come to dinner. Totally. There's a whole fucking tape collection of him ignoring his family somewhere in the apartment. Or it's a call from Jack from Bill Pullman being like, look, I got your letter with the pictures. Stop doing this. Stop sending me the girls you're sleeping with. Stop it. Congratulations. She's very attractive. This is creepy. Leave me alone.
so all that happens and then our little epilogue here she's back at the toll booth
people are going through huckin pennies at her but they say it's something like it's her last
day she's going to leave oh that's right because celeste she's finally moving yes you're totally
right Celeste has a big goodbye I'll see you around kind of a thing is it said she's moving or moving
on from working I don't remember and I've seen this
movie a thousand times, so I don't know.
It doesn't really matter because what happens,
of course, to sort of screw up her plans
is, you know, like
token comes in, token comes in,
token comes in, oh, you hear the sound
effect, what's that? Ring
tossed in, got to say, Pullman,
not too shabby.
It's the sweetest little proposal.
I love it. It's pretty great, but you know what?
Don't bring your whole fucking family
for this. Dude, that's the thing. She fell in love
with the family. It's a
package deal. I know I'm not. I'm
not great, but they're pretty fun.
And you know what?
For your honeymoon, we're going to an all-inclusive
in the Dominican Republic together.
Yeah.
It's suicide again for me.
No, he takes her to Italy,
which is where she always wanted to go.
That's right, yeah.
It's a nice thing.
And she says it all on voiceover
when they're leaving their wedding
on the L train.
It's cute.
Which that, man, I don't know
that you're bypassing regulations
to get that decoration.
shit up. I don't know. Honestly, she worked
so many fucking holidays. You know what I
mean? Like, she's earned it.
You know, the whole reason the boss
is even talking to is he wants her to work fucking
St. Patrick's Day. Exactly.
Oh, you want the subway
to work on your wedding day. Why don't you
grease the wheels?
Let's see what you got.
It is funny, though, because, like, this movie,
the script in this movie
is solid enough that, like, you don't
need her to end the movie with the
narration. If you want to set it up, like, you don't need the voiceover.
Her with fucking Peter Gallagher and stuff like that, the beginning, that makes sense
because otherwise, how do you relay that she has like a big crush on it? I mean, I guess you
could find a way to do it. But like at the end of it, I don't think you need it, except for
what they drop here at the end of it. I like the narration at the end again because Sandra
Bullock is really, really good at making this narration sound very natural. It sounds like she's
just delivering lines. It's very good.
except for the last few words.
Man, I mean, the balls on this movie
to drop the titular line
as the last thing you hear before credits.
Wow, it's like you have one,
you got fucking half your coat on.
You got an arm through your coat.
You're getting ready.
You got your fucking popcorn all over the floor already.
Getting up to leave the theater.
And then it's like, when did you fall in love?
While you were sleeping.
God damn it, titular line.
It's a clunker, man.
I have to say, in an otherwise,
more or less solid screenplay
the titular line usage at the end
did not need to happen. Yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah.
But that is
the end of while you were sleeping. We will start
with our esteemed guest today. Would you recommend this movie?
I wonder what the answer will be.
Eh, no.
I love this movie.
I think it's a great rom-com.
I know it's not going to be for everyone, but
if you do
like a rom-com and this is
one that you missed, please go back.
It's very charming.
I love it.
I will watch it a million more times.
There you go.
We'll get the,
the Blu-ray all set up for Christmas.
Exactly.
Steve Sadek?
You know, it's a,
it's not a recommend for me.
It's a little slow.
It's a little dry.
I think Sandra Bullock's really good in it,
and I think that she's an underrated actress in general.
I think, and I also think that, like,
maybe this is my Bill Pullman.
I'm not crazy about him in this movie.
I think she's got.
better chemistry with him
than he does with her like she sells
I want this guy more than
he sells I want this lady so that's
just me maybe I'm nuts
it's kind of a hangover movie for sure but
it's a light no for me
Chris Cabin yeah I think I can see
it working as a hangover movie
it's also a very good example of
the kind of movie like
a brand of
rom-coms in the 90s we had
of like incredibly
incredibly sad stories like
like this, the Paul
Bearer, addicted to love
where like all the
the story itself is incredibly sad
but the tone is so goofy and like
alternative and like like slyly funny
that like it just, it's a mess.
This is sad in a different way
than those movies. This isn't sad, pathetic.
This is sad, sad.
I say that the sadness that this movie
reminds me of is another episode, which
how dare you all, I hate you,
is you've got mail.
I think that sometimes the rom-com,
when it adds in the element of the dead parent,
it does create a really nice note
of giving the characters a different place
to be falling in love from.
I think it works.
I think it's really sweet.
Addicted to love is a movie about sociopaths.
Yeah, I mean, I would say,
I actually, I totally agree with that
because her motivation
is coming from a place of loneliness
and not a place of like,
I need a man.
Yeah. You know, so she's not like
man crazy like that in this movie.
I mean, it's an insane thing
that happens. I will say
I'm pretty sure
I've been hungover to this movie
before and it helped out.
So I think it is a definite hangover movie.
But, you know,
I think this movie is totally charm.
and I've seen it a bunch
and like I've also seen a lot of fucking
insane rom-coms that I would not
go back to like I would watch
this 10 times before I ever
popped on like my best friend's wedding
again that's like an insane
rom-com situation
but like I think Chelsea you're right
that like when you're when you change the
motivation for why we're
trying to drum up the romance
and you have it be something
as ultra relatable
as like loneliness like I think
it changes it. And then plus, I mean, God forbid, you put in
the fact that it said at the holidays. Loneliness
at the holidays. Holy shit.
So I would totally
recommend it. But that, I think,
is going to do it. And while you were
sleeping, Chelsea, thank you for hopping on
in a pinch here. Thank you.
You're letting me blabber on with my friends
about one of my favorite movies. This has been
a dream come true and such an honor.
Thank you guys so much.
Well, there it is. That's the
nicest thing anyone's ever said to us.
That's absolutely by far.
this is officially the best episode of
we hate movies. There you go. The one
where the guys get complimented. Until I come
back for rent.
But if you want more we hate
movies of course check out patreon.com
slash we hate movies
even though we were technically
supposed to be on summer break we are still
cranking out episodes here in
August including of course
the big 501
on the we love movies feed on Patreon
Superman the movie of course tying into episode
500 which was our big sell
of a Superman 3 and 4 Redux.
We did all new recordings to those
previous episodes from the early days of the show,
so if you haven't checked out at it yet.
Definitely do so.
We have a Gleap glossary, of course,
on Jar Jar Binks that is dropping
or may have dropped at some point already this month.
I'm not sure.
We're recording a lot of this shit in advance.
An Inspector Gadget animation damnation,
of course, another nexus,
and probably around this time we'll be releasing
the Nemesis Commentary.
that has previously been released
but is now unavailable
but now is available only on our Patreon
where we're moving that right over there
as just another little thing
we're giving you this month.
Absolutely, so that just as a reminder
is the sinkable commentary
to the final Star Trek
The Next Generation film
which was Nemesis, which was dog shit,
but I think it was like our
second commentary ever, right?
Yep.
So yeah, now that is,
we'll be, if not already,
available to Patreon subscribers
at the $8 level, Patreon.com
slash we hate movies.
And then, like, this is kind of weird
because, again, we don't have our August break,
but technically this is the end of season 10,
which is totally bizarre.
Congratulations.
It's no longer season 10.
Gordon Ramsey yelling at a poor child chef.
But, so the weird thing is
we're only going to take one quick week off
here if I'm reading our schedule correctly
we will be unlocking
the vault for just a week break
so Ready Player 1
is coming out of the Patreon vault
and we're going to make that available to folk it's an old ass
we hate movies episode that we did on the feed
back when the we love movies feed was still
we hate movies because that movie is
doggone rotten but it's an
all-timer episode we just
relisten to it it's fantastic
you're going to like it if you haven't heard it already
it's going to be a good one so check that out for next
week and then the week after that season 11
of We Hate Movies kicking off, man.
Do we know what we're doing, Steve Say that?
Can we tease the people on the season premiere?
We are going to do Toy Soldiers, a much stay tuned episode.
Much, much, much stay tuned.
This is terrorists in a private school, high school or something?
It's a tiny diehard again, because it's Sean Aston as the littlest diehard.
And it's not Taps, which is the other one of these movies.
Yes, exactly.
Oh, I see.
I've seen neither of them.
actually. So I'm very excited for
it's just toy soldiers
or toy soldier? Toy soldiers.
You know, whenever I hear that
title, I confuse it with small soldiers.
Yeah, it's a different movie. But I think that's also
probably a stay tuned at some point. I love that movie,
but sure. Yeah, no, it's a fun one. Yeah,
it would be fun to mess around with great Phil Hartman
in it and so on. But that is it. That is
a cap on season 10. Enjoy Ready
Player 1 on the main feed next week. And we will
see you in a couple weeks for We Hate Movies
Season 11. Thanks so much for
sticking with us and we hope you are safe during the quarantine until season 11 kicks off in a
couple weeks. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Baskin Robbins. Teltie Jupin. Take it easy and put
on a mask, please.
That was a hate gum podcast.
