We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 509 - Species II (with Angelica Jade Bastién)

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

On this week's Spook2cular episode, the gang welcomes Vulture's Angelica Jade Bastién back to the show to have a good hang on the internet and chat about the outrageous sci-fi/horror sequel, Species ...II! What is with the embarrassing lack of peen shots? How awesome is George Dzundza as this ridiculous colonel? And where are all these alien kids getting those potato sacks? PLUS: Angelica tells the guys about Steve's next English television obsession, Naked Attraction! Species II stars Michael Madsen, Natasha Henstridge, Marg Helgenberger, Mykelti Williamson, George Dzundza, James Cromwell, and Justin Lazard; directed by Peter Medak. WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, the spook-tucular continues with, what's that? One of the sexiest, most disgusting sequels of all time. That's right, it's Species 2. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadec. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Angelica Jade Bastian.
Starting point is 00:00:15 And we hate movies. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's dead on a good scare. Sometimes, death is better. Dead is better. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door.
Starting point is 00:00:41 They're coming in. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment. They're coming to get you, Barbara. You're sick for Foxy. You've seen one too many. Now, sit, don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Movies make psychos for creative. What's the fucking knows? An excellent day for an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the scary show, as always. And as you heard right up top, we are so pleased to welcome back our good friend, Angelica, Jade Bastion, to the program. Hello, how are you? What's the full kind of question of that?
Starting point is 00:01:33 You know it's not going to be a good answer. Listen, what I think it's going to be is like we're setting the tone to get really silly tonight is the idea as we record this episode. So I could have asked the dumbest question possible in this hellscape, Halloween year round. How are you doing? I mean, I'm alive. I have a job. I have my health. Not on work.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You know, I'm getting late, which is really nice after not getting late for a long time. Getting laid at the end of the world, it's different. It's really kind of like an all or nothing thing at this point. Oh, it is. It's like, like, okay, we're going to hell tonight, baby. We're already there anyway, so who gives a shit? That is exactly right. We live in hell.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm thinking back to all of our episodes leading up to like November 2016, and when you listen to those, It's like, oh, fuck, we predicted the end of the world. But I would really hope we could be wrong this time on We Hate Movies. So let's see if we can, for once, be wrong on the Internet. And, Angelica, I'm not going to pry here, but I hope the person you're with is not an astronaut because you want to steer the fuck away from those people. You don't know what they got. Yeah, like, I think species too give men and women really good lessons.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Like, don't be fucking astronauts, especially if they've just come back from something. apparently there's a 10-day quarantine on the astronaut dick and shit and I never had heard that's something that's not in Apollo 13 or First Man is like when they come back they're just ragingly horny Well I think part of it's also like the decompression
Starting point is 00:03:09 from coming back from space So like if you if they shoot a nut too fast Like too early it'll just like the decompression doesn't work And it just pops or something Right got it I think that is 100% medically accurate by the right yeah this is species two from
Starting point is 00:03:28 1998 directed by Peter Medak the director of one of my favorite horror films of all time the changeling probably a bunch of other stuff but one of the best crime films ever made the craze which is the same source material as that
Starting point is 00:03:43 legend movie with Tom Hardy oh I thought you meant legend with Tim Curry no no no no no that computer the fuck out of me because that's the first thing was like big-ass devil per face like popping into my head. He did a devil brother movie.
Starting point is 00:04:00 No, it's the British criminals, the Kray brothers. But this was an early version of this. It's like 1990. Wow, it sounds pretty cray man. It's really good. It's very good. Isn't the movie where he's playing
Starting point is 00:04:14 twins? That's the one that Tom Hardy did, yeah. And it's directed by Peter Medak? No, no, no. The same story. The same. Brothers. Oh, I see. Oh, okay. Got you. He did an early version of it. It's very good. Before we get too far ahead here, I just want to hit play real quick. Coming soon to theaters. Oh my God, it's the VHS trailer game, everybody. Yes. I got to tell you, Steve, I didn't think it was going to happen today because who could bet that this movie was put on VHS, but I guess it makes sense. 1998 still, you know, my God was this put on.
Starting point is 00:04:52 on VHS. The VHS trailer game, America's number one game show segment involving absolute technology. We're really excited about it. It's really happening. It's sweeping the nation. It's the only one as well. The ratings are way higher than guess that fax machine.
Starting point is 00:05:09 We're getting there. And Angelica is a newbie, a noob in parlance here. So I will go through the rules in one second. I just want to let everybody know that there's going to be three rounds. I'm going to talk about three trailers, but there were 13 trailers
Starting point is 00:05:26 on this VH. Oh, let's shut the fuck up. Wait, 13. What the fuck? Who got time for 13-ass trailer? Yeah, no, can we play guess the fax machine instead? No, I'm just saying, Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, come on. No, he wasn't the fax machine. He owned fax machines for nefarious purposes. 13 trailers. They're all, they were all really short, like truncated. I don't know, like, I guess, like, Hollywood video or whomever was like
Starting point is 00:05:54 dude this this tape is going to move I want to like really saturate the market or whatever but all these movies like 13 movies not like you know toys or I mean TV she's toys but you know what I mean like promotional commercials all trailers to films we will show
Starting point is 00:06:10 that's incredible it was stunning um so the VHS trailer game uh it is a we're going to play three rounds and I took three of the 13 motherfucking trailers on this on this thing uh that And by the way, the three you have any chance to get. There are so many, like, fake movies that is absolutely,
Starting point is 00:06:28 we're not going to talk about those. Got it. So we're going to play three rounds, three trailers. The way it's going to go is I'm going to give, for each round, I'm going to go one by one, giving five clues. The first clue will be with five points. The next clue you get worth four, and then so on. After every clue, I will pause.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Whomever thinks they know what it is can raise their hand. I will call on them like it's grade school. And you can make your guess or not, or you could wait. But obviously, the point totals go down. You get one guess per trailer. So if you guess for the first one, and you're out for the rest of it until somebody gets it right or wrong, and then on the second one, you're back in it. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, okay. Cool. And the way that it works is we are playing towards a taking the we hate movies slush fund to buy a cameo of their choice. Angelica, you are involved in this because, you are playing for the guest team every time all guest points will be added up together
Starting point is 00:07:27 you probably won't win because it's not going to be that many guests but who knows who knows so at the end of all of this you might get a cameo of your choice Angelica that's going to be really exciting like what 90s stars are on camera? Sorbo for sure is on there thank you
Starting point is 00:07:43 ill bro I've got taste it's Lucy Lollas or bust in that franchise exactly oh my god someone like told me recently that while they watched lots of Hurricanes, they hadn't really watched Zena, and I was like, that's dark side. It was right there. It was always they were programmed in blocks.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Just sit there and watch the other 45 minutes. I've been tempted to like start watching Zina again now, because it's like the world is over. Might as well get high as hell. It's a fun watch. Is it somewhere? I think it's on Pluto or something. I thought it was on Hulu.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I bet it's on Hulu. It was on Hulu for a while. The sci-fi app? Sci-Fi Channel app? I believe that's where I went cold on the trail. I found that far. That's what's fun about the VHS trailer game, everybody. You'll spend 10 minutes talking about Zena.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Okay, so here we go. Speaking of Obsolete. Well, you know, I think, Steve, I think it's on the game master to rain in, the game. That's true. And, yes, game master only. Steve is gone for a little while. He'll come back at the end. There is no Stephen, only Zool, the Game Master.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Okay, so the first trailer, round one, this move, is everybody ready? Any questions before we start? I'm good. Okay, so hand-raising is going to get you in there. The first film, the Game Master's Clue, it is an S&L alumnus's debut starring vehicle that centers on revenge. Eric. Dirty work. You got it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Wow. Wow. Some of the bitch bastard, indeed. I've seen that movie too much. And I want to let everybody know I've been drinking a little bit tonight. And the way I do these is it's like round one and I put the actual movie title. I keep on and be like, all right, round two. Here's the movie title.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, man. Well, the goodness is, Steve, if you fuck it up, there's 10 other movies that you could pull from. That's a really good point. Okay. Round two. The Game Master's Clue is a loose remake of a Hitchcock classic involving an age gap love starring actors that are the progeny. I saw Andrew come up. A perfect murder?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, he's right. Fuck, man. I just saw that shit, too. What the fuck? Damn you. Damn you. When I come back to New York, motherfucker. I'll buy you, I'll buy you a big whiskey.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. Wow. I can't believe I got it. I've also never bothered to see that movie. Watch it. Is it good? Well, I mean, I was high, and it was a very fun time. Vigo Morton's very hot in it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 He's very hot in it. It's ridiculous, but it's fun. Vigo, Gwyneth, is she in it? Yeah. And Michael Douglas. That's the game. That's the exact. Vigo is like an artist in that.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He's got like this big loft or something. He's an artist, but he's also a con man, really. Nice, nice. You know what? I just rewatched the Indian Runner, and I forgot how hot he is in that movie. Oh, man. He's a smokeshoed, dude. Like, full frontal.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It's unbelievable. Full frontal in the Indian Runner? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I didn't nobody tell me that. No, I'm trying to spread the word here. We're talking about, like, floppy cock when he's running. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He's wonderful. He's right. He's wonderful. And Charles Bronson. So that's just an FYI for the Indian runner. Hey, Vigo, nice cock. Okay. Now, the last round here, by the way,
Starting point is 00:11:28 speaking of Vigo, it's important to know that in the IMDB Tribune when I was coming through it, he was in that and the Psycho remake in the same year. Weird. That's weird, wild stuff. So the last round, the Game Master's Clue, a dark teen thriller with a sci-fi bent
Starting point is 00:11:50 Wait, I got Angelica here No, you know what, finish the clue Finish the clue So watch it be another fucking There's 13 up here But finish the truth I'm gonna raise my hand Right when you said it
Starting point is 00:11:59 All right A dark teen thriller with a sci-fi bent Whose usage of the Harvey Danger's flagpole Sita I have to go to Angelica here Because she had it up first Go ahead It's not disturbing behavior, is it? Yes, it is exactly disturbing behavior
Starting point is 00:12:13 Dude, the second you said to Harvey Wallbanger I was like, oh I remember remember that trailer, well, fondly is the wrong word. Oh, I've seen that movie so many times. What was I watching in the 90s? Shit. Absolutely shit.
Starting point is 00:12:29 We all were. That was so shit. I thought that movie was good. Oh, I did too. With an good in it. I didn't think I ever saw it. It's been on my to-do list for a while for this show. Yeah, I think it's to stay tuned for sure
Starting point is 00:12:41 because it's kind of bad. Like, obviously, it's very bad. If y'all do that, I want to be honest. I'm the 90s, bitch. There it is. Let's lock it in. There it is. It's a bonus round.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Oh, shit. It's a bonus round because there are so many freaking bizarre trailers on this thing with titles that just baffled the mind. And everybody gets to play this. So what's going to happen is I'm going to go to Angelica first, then Andrew, then Eric, then Chris to give their guess as to which of the following movies, following movie titles are fake.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Oh. Full story. It's fake. Brilliant. You can double up like if Angelica says X. Andrew you can also say X or you could say Y obviously and it's three points no matter who gets it.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So like everybody like if Andrew and Angelica get it right, they both get three points and so on. Only one is fake. Only one is fake for our real movies. And I'm using quotation marks because you can't find most of these. Sure. So Angelica, for three points. Which of the following is fake?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Evidence of blood, undeniable attraction, the spree, double edge, and kissed. Oh, my God. These all sound very straight. Can you repeat them again? I said it again. So it's evidence of blood, undeniable attraction, the spree, double edge, and kissed. You know, the obvious choice would seem to be evidence of blood, right? Because it's, like, kind of weird for a 1998 title, right?
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. But there's something about, like, how you described how, like, random these are, that I'm going to believe that one's real. So I'll go for the spree. Angelica has a spray. Andrew, do you want to hear them again? Yeah, sorry. Evidence of blood, undeniable attraction,
Starting point is 00:14:40 the spree, double edge, and kissed. Hmm These are all movies that it sounds like They would be waiting online to see on Seinfeld Absolutely they're all I'm going to vote sack lunch Exactly I will say double edge
Starting point is 00:15:00 Okay Andrew's down for double edge Eric Siska I was also circling double edge Because it sounds It doesn't it doesn't sound right to me That's like what is double edge Is there maybe their love Now I'm thinking it's real.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Now I'm fucking talking myself or you. I'm just going to say double edge and move on. Okay, we're going to move on from double edge. And now Chris Cabin. I was thinking it was double edge too, but I feel I don't want to, I don't want to crowd that one up. I'm going to say undeniable attraction. Chris Cabin is correct with undeniable attraction. Wow, that's the one I thought.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh, that has to be real. Yeah, that sounds like a total 90s, like Tarantino's Swingers knockoff movie. Exactly. because that's the game master coming at you with the fucking big brain. Thank you. Thank you, Jay Master. Thank you so much, Jane Master.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So, Chris, I'm just writing that down so I don't forget. So let me just go through. Evidence of Blood is some sort of backwoods murder mystery with David Strathairn and Mary MacDonald
Starting point is 00:16:04 doing fucking corn cob accents. It's insane. Oh, my God, I have to find this. The spree, I don't remember because I was drunk. um double edge eric is a michael bean uh and some other guy two cops that want to do whatever oh i love a i love a good mr bean movie michael bean is fighting this other guy and and someone's like somebody call the cops and they both turn and go we are the cops it's amazing no way wow
Starting point is 00:16:35 and um kissed is the most interesting of the bunch it is an independent movie wherein molly darker is a necrophiliac. I've been hearing about this movie for a while. That was the only one I knew from the outset was real. Like a light necrophilia comedy or like necromanic like Sears fucked up horror
Starting point is 00:16:56 like we're fist and cadavers. I don't know for fisting cadavers specifically but we are like we're doing like it's like a dark drama kind of a thing. It's what it looked like at least. It was like towards the bottom of like Sundance coverage for like three people. And then I think
Starting point is 00:17:12 I think, yeah, I guess it did get wide release, which is wild. So let's let's get nuts using the W word. I will just let everybody know that Andrew and Eric are tied at 10 points. Wow. Angelica is on, the guests are on the board with five points, and Chris is up with 13 points with his undeniable attraction guess. So there you go. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Wow. And that is the VHS trailer game. Another rousing round. It was a good one. and game show network or buzzer you know we're fucking right here just saying it just saying buzzer buzz us
Starting point is 00:17:52 exactly just fucking buzz me so of course Angelica we welcomed you on the show for the first time when we were talking about species so we had you back for cruel intentions but we had to get right back to the alien sexiness with species too
Starting point is 00:18:10 and I'm just going to start by saying this was the first time this afternoon and I ever watched this movie and I kind of had a lot of fun. It is. It's actually like it's not good. I'm going to say that I mean there's top to bottom there are decisions made
Starting point is 00:18:27 in this movie that are like the fuck? Are you serious? Well I think who wrote this? Like what were you thinking? Why does the black man sound like this and basically his blood is poison? Okay we're doing this. All right. I guess. 1998 y'all look terrible too
Starting point is 00:18:43 fuck your outfits that's how I felt watching the movie but I like saw I was watching it with someone who was seeing it for the first time the dude I'm dating who will probably actually listen to this so it's kind of funny that I'm talking about this much but it's you really
Starting point is 00:18:59 you really start liking somebody and you know it's a joyful thing for me right now I'm holding on to what I can hold on to hold on to it hold on to it you should um but yeah species too i think is definitely better than the first one because it's like really ridiculous also the casting is like like what the fuck were they thinking but it's like
Starting point is 00:19:24 it's a fun ride and like watching it with someone seeing it for the first time they were like yeah it's bad but kind of you know it's kind of ridiculous i i think this one really like embraces the trashiness of the conceit whereas the first one didn't the first one was trying to be like a serious movie. This one doesn't have a down moment. No. The first one is just like meandering in parts. Yeah. And this is like, oh go ahead, Steve.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I think the first one's like trying to be a good movie and this one knows it's never going to be a good movie which I appreciate. And it's funny because that's what makes it better than the first one though because it embraces its like 1960s mission to Mars and something went wrong like Hollywood B movie shit and then uses its leverage of being made in the late 90s
Starting point is 00:20:08 so you can have tons of gore, tons of outrageous nudity, although no fucking peen in this movie. And that's a big problem, because we're doing everything else. You're doing alien dick, alien nipples with tentacles coming out of nipples and whatnot. Just show a fucking innocent penis. Am I seeing any butt cheeks anywhere?
Starting point is 00:20:27 No, you're not. No, you definitely are. You're getting this dude's... Yeah, in the bed. I gotta say this dude's hairy ass. And I wanted to be like, hey, make-up department, man. How about a little bit of a wax job before we're seeing
Starting point is 00:20:38 these dudes buns. But I mean, like, this is species two colon for the ladies. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the first one was for the dudes. Now you've got a sexy guy running around, you know. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, I'm not going to let this fucking almost like warped Emilio Estevez looking motherfucker be called sexy.
Starting point is 00:20:59 He was a Calvin Klein model, but like, you know, people were on drugs in the 90s. Maybe, like, I don't know what was going on. He does actually. he looks like Emilio Estevez and Judd Nelson if they made it remember that old Conan O'Brien segment where they're they shoved together just they like collage it up like here's his nose and here's someone else's eyes
Starting point is 00:21:19 but I mean he's a quote unquote sexy dude you know what I mean but like it's the sexiest you could get for species too like everything is ratioed appropriately let's get some side cock or maybe some top cock kind of a thing you know just right right top right cock indeed that would be my reality show that I'd post
Starting point is 00:21:37 I heard they push Oh damn This cock is underdone You're going home this week on topcock I was going to say I thought they push top cock But that's I guess top gun right It's like it's like translucent It's just
Starting point is 00:21:54 Oh God I mean to give an idea about this guy Justin Lazard is the actor's name His IMDB picture is just him in this movie Of course So that's it's always a good barometer Of what we have going on in the acting world he's like the product of a hot guy algorithm
Starting point is 00:22:09 like if you were to like the perfect idea of what a hot guy would be this is him it's also asking a bit too much of him like yeah he's just a model that was cast in this movie but you know in Species 1 Natasha Hentras doesn't have a ton of dialogue
Starting point is 00:22:27 it's a lot of her just being like a stalky alien kind of thing and this movie's asking him to do like scenes with James Cromwell where I'm like This dude was just not prepared for this. Like, you're asking way too much of this poor man, and he just comes off terrible in this movie. Yeah, it's like him not only playing an astronaut, but like, okay, so I'm a senator's son,
Starting point is 00:22:47 and I might be president one day. Oh, and now I'm fucking with an alien dick. And he also has to be, like, the hottest dude ever, because, like, everybody wants to fuck him. He's, like, supposed to go on stage at one moment to have, like, some speech after coming back from Mars. God, this movie. And, like, he's, like, making out heart with some chick on, like, a couch and, like,
Starting point is 00:23:12 it's running late, like, and everybody wants to fuck him. And I'm just like, no, no, someone, there must be someone who sees. He's not attractive. But he saved the world by going to Mars and coming back alive. And he didn't look like corned beef like Neil Armstrong did. You know what I mean? Like, that's the thing. It's like, Neil Armstrong, I'm sure what there were, people were throwing it to him back
Starting point is 00:23:33 in the 60s, but even still. All right. Neil Armstrong. I would have it like him in the back. It's like my rations, the emergency fund. If I need it, I'll get my kneel. They also make him like the cartoon ideal of a hero. He's like the football star, son of a senator, astronaut hero. I'm like, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:23:56 It's too much. And like he just doesn't have any presents to even make it even pretend to work. Did you guys happen to read his Wikipedia, though? No. No. What's going on there? What house of horrors is there? Okay. I'm just going to read it. It's short. That's not surprising. It's interesting. On the evening of July 4th, 2006 in Lakeport, California, Lazzard, a terrible name, side note, was arrested in charge with indecent exposure and resisting arrest, having been exposing himself
Starting point is 00:24:30 near one of the peers of a local park. Hold on. Do that in the movie. Do it in the movie. And then during the arrest, this is my favorite sentence because it's very vivid. He was tasered by one of the officers. Yeah. Oh, wow. It just seemed he had like a lot of problems and, you know, it goes into further detail about, you know, him pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge. But his psychiatrist attested that his behavior was due to a transitory, transitory, severe psychotic breakdown, and that treatment had worked well in his case.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So I hope he's doing better. It's kind of a roller coaster two paragraphs. Yeah, wow, that's a total bummer. And now I kind of feel bad making fun of him. Oh, I don't. Kind of. It was a light, kind of. Well, you know, I kind of, I'm jealous of the people in the park that day.
Starting point is 00:25:23 They got a better show than we did. Exactly. Yeah. What is that? Do you think he tried to call Michael Madsen to be a character witness for him at the trial? Yeah, I won't fucking do it. Bye. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Exactly. No way he remembers. Any time of Michael Madsen. First of all, Michael Madsen does not go to a courthouse unless he's in chains. That's the way that works. Absolutely. It's the only way you're getting him there. This movie starts, yeah, it's a M.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's a mission to Mars, terrible special effects. It's, I mean, I guess it's 93 minutes. It's very, it's very snappy. We get through the Mars section. We get a U.S. government star destroyer. approaching Mars with the logos of Pepsi, Reeboks, Sprint, and Miller Light on the side. Can you remind me of Ad Astra a little bit? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I will say, Steve, to counter your special effects complaint, I thought that the model work here was actually pretty okay for the space station and stuff like that. Let me remind you, I watched it on a VHS. It was a bad one, too, by the way. The ending is so dark, I had to watch it on YouTube because I was like, I cannot see anything. Did you leave it out in the sun? Yes. No, I like, I turned on off my lights. I still got nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That stinks. Quick question, just because I'm curious about your, I was going to say dumpster diving habit, but that's not exactly what you're doing. It's not above looking in the trash for these things, though. But where specifically did you get those species to VHS? Like, how did you come across it? Usually I do dumpster dive, and by that I mean, go to thrift stores only, and like, what I find is what I get.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But for this. season I'm going on eBay for everything eBay. eBay has almost everything between $2 and $5, so let's go for it. And it's unsurprising to me that a used VHS tape of the film Species 2 had tracking problems
Starting point is 00:27:17 and appeared to be a little worn out. Yeah, that's a good point. I just have whatever 15 year old in 1998 on this movie. This movie's got a lot of the, what are you watching vibes going on? Oh, big time. I just have this image of Steve in a hazmat suit, like
Starting point is 00:27:33 going into his Salvation Army saying what do you got to the guy behind the counter who has a gas mask on he got any tapes no no not DVDs tapes
Starting point is 00:27:50 tapes I need tapes no so yeah he's he says it's not for one nation not for one people not for one creed but for all mankind. Not a bad pseudo-Neil Armstrongy kind of line.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's not bad. He actually says human kind. Yes, that's it. So he really brings it into almost the 21st century. But before that, though, there is the dumbass. The eagle has landed again. Fuck you. Come on.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, Mars is just the sequel to the moon. We all know that. Because the memory serves as being like broadcast and people are like watching it in a bar and like you know you see the footprint in the Mars like surface and then it's like a pixelated ass flag that he's holding
Starting point is 00:28:43 it's a it's really you know it's a way to begin a movie I'll say that it's the quick at least that's I agree with Steve you're in and you're out with this mission the bar is a telling detail because like in another movie it would be like you're like the Truman show when you see them watching him in Times Square like showing you that the world is
Starting point is 00:29:03 experiencing this event. I don't know. What if we just got rented out a bar and like everyone at Flanagan's is like fucking hooked to it. Totally. It was just like the crowded Flanagan's like, wow, the game's pretty boring. What else is on? Oh, I guess we landed on Mars. Look at that. I mean, the
Starting point is 00:29:17 broadcaster has nobody, they keep on cutting to this newsman and like he has nothing really to report. He's just like oh, oh, oh just hell yeah. Hell yeah. This is so cool that we're doing this, right? On Mars. Yeah, US, yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 A little breaking news coming in here at the newsroom. Hell yeah. Absolutely, hell yeah, sir. Absolutely hell yeah. It looks like a thing that we get in movies sometimes where this was like an actual local news reporter somewhere, maybe like for like a DC affiliate or something and they put him in the movie.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I don't know that for sure. No, but sometimes it's funny. Like when Chelsea, I showed Chelsea the Shining for the first time and when it cuts to the scene of Dick, Calleran in Florida and he's like sleeping and the TV's on. Yeah. The local Miami guy was like her guy as a kid
Starting point is 00:30:11 and she was like, holy fuck, that guy's in this movie. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, and like we were watching the vow last week and they cut to some local news footage and Angelica, I don't know, are you following the vow? No, but I just have so much on my plate. Everything I'm watching is like super specific
Starting point is 00:30:27 to work right now, but I'm going to watch it. Totally. You can spoil me though. Well, no, this isn't a spoiler. Just like where it took place in upstate New York is like literally the town that my parents live in. So I've been like more obsessed than most. So you saw Keith and you were like, that's my guy.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Oh my guy. It's my volleyball buddy. No, but it was like a local news report dude came up from like the local NBC affiliate and I was like, holy fuck, that guy's still working there? Weird. I keep on trying to see if like they're in a grocery store I remember from that area.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I've been watching it with an eagle's eye and I haven't caught anything yet. Come, do it. I'm really praying for someone we went to high school with to pop up, Chris. Can you imagine? Oh, it would be lovely. I would just be really, really happy. So they grab these samples.
Starting point is 00:31:14 They go back in the spaceship, and we're greeted by President Richard Beltzer. So good. What's so good? What is more unlikely in our lifetime, an actual manned mission to Mars or a Jewish president? What do we think? Hmm. We just might get to. Mars first. Yeah, Mars. I think it's
Starting point is 00:31:35 the Mars. We'll have a Martian president before. Yeah, totally. Part of the crew is also the great McElte Williams. Famous, of course, is Bubba Gump. He was also on Justified as an awesome villain. Limehouse.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Limehouse. Yeah. He was good on Justify. I'm not a fan of him, though, in this movie. There's just but I don't know if it's him or the script but you know I will say like the makeup department at least for McKelty Williams
Starting point is 00:32:11 he has a really incredible mustache that's like so good like it's like a Ernie Hudson level handsome mustache that this dude's got on and I've never seen him with a mustache before I really do think it's the script because they have
Starting point is 00:32:27 him saying like booty six times yes and I'm like what the fuck act like talk like an adult for five seconds please he's constantly complaining about not being able to get laid like it's a bad fucking death jam bit like there's so much about this character
Starting point is 00:32:43 that's like man can we fucking tone this down a little bit please yeah it's really uncomfortable but like I kept writing down his lines because I was like this is too good like one of them he like when he's like you know I'll point them out when we get to them but one
Starting point is 00:32:59 from like near the end he gets a machete and he says I'm taking this because I'm about to go back to Africa on somebody's ass and it's like Yep and I think In that around that same exchange I think Is when he also refers to himself as Kunta Yeah Kinta
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yep and I was like wait Wait I actually had to rewind that I was like no he didn't No he did but unfortunately he did Steve maybe that's why your tracking was off People were rewinding that one They're like, wait, did he just say that? Really?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, maybe. I will say points to this movie. He shockingly lives to the end credits. I was surprised. That was a big surprise. They all, and it's that and there's this other lady who have never seen in anything before is the third woman. Miriam Sear, I believe, is the woman's name here. The only thing that pops up under IMD that I was quickly familiar with is she's in, I shot Andy Warhol.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Warhol playing a factory personality at one point. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, she plays ultraviolet. Look a movie. It's a great movie, yeah. The president says, good job, and then they all have a blackout for like seven minutes. Because, by the way, we are stealing from venom from the comics, like, nobody's it is so venom.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Even the goop, like, there's a moment where, because they have the containers with the sand from the surface, and one of them thaws out and, like, pops open like it's coming. Black who Like the movie comes at minute nine Like everything is very sexual in this movie Man with this quick release movie It should have used a swab or something To last longer
Starting point is 00:34:42 It's unbelievable The goop The goop looks like has Does everybody remember the Swill commercial From SNL? Yes That's what it reminded me of The Bill Murray's Swil
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's like a mineral water But like it's thick and like polluted water And it's just like like gooping down in thick parts. But it's sentient black goo that infects astronauts. Like that's venom, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:35:09 How about this? It goes right to the camera. Like, it's like, it's infecting us as well, the audience. It does kind of shoot right at the camera, dude. And I was like, this is bad, like, no one cares about 3D again yet. Gags here. Yeah, so they have like a seven-minute blackout and this is like NASA starts freaking
Starting point is 00:35:27 the fuck out. Like, we can't get a hold of these guys. Wouldn't you? Like, this is bad. It's totally bad, but then the problem is, like, then, like, you know, you presume the goop, you know, infects them and whatnot. And then they all just wake up, like, oh, well, that was weird. Like, none of them say anything to each other. They're like, yeah, all right, I guess it's fine. We're still plummeting back to Earth at fucking hundreds of miles an hour, whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I would have loved to see that in between because we come to find out that, like, Michael 2 Williams was the only one who didn't get infected because he has some latent disease like he's a carrier for a disease. Yeah, sickle cell. And that sucks. Like it could be anything. It's anything. But it is sickle cell. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:15 yeah, this movie decisions were made. Like they were. You know, somebody doesn't talk to black people and I think it may be every other person in this like this. Yeah, clearly because this movie's message is fucking a black man's blood
Starting point is 00:36:30 will poison an alien. Okay. It's like there's something weird about like literally weaponizing black person's like body or, I don't know. There's something better than I'm like, the body politics in these, you know, I'm not going to talk about species three and four, which the end of this movie clearly sets up the third,
Starting point is 00:36:53 which we'll get to. But they have weird body politics and like shit going on. I'm like, that's why I want to remake species because there's something here that, I think, I don't know. I want to just remake this shitty movie. I think there's plenty openings for sexy aliens. Oh, yeah, sexy aliens for sure,
Starting point is 00:37:13 but sexy aliens, like, directed by, like, an all-woman team. Like, make species, but with a women filmmaking team, that's a winning formula. I would be so down for that. Like, that just sounds like, I don't know, it just seems like it'd be fun. And, you know, America, American movies need some sex
Starting point is 00:37:32 because holy shit why are our movies so sexless lately? Yeah, what is with that? Disney. Yeah, there's like only a few companies left. Yeah. You totally right, Steve actually, that remark about Disney because I would wager
Starting point is 00:37:47 and Steve Say that comic book expert can weigh in on this, but like there's more sex in Marvel comics than there are in Marvel movies, which is to say none, right? Yes, yeah. I mean like people. People They're getting on.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Angelica, you read comics too. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. I do read comic. That's right. And I don't want comics that have sexual intercourse in them. Yeah, it's just weird.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Movies are just very, in specifically American movies, like, are just very sterile in a way. And, like, it's not even just that they aren't, like, sexy or have sex scenes or lots of kissing scenes. Is that the characters feel sexless. Like, these characters, come across as people who don't
Starting point is 00:38:31 fuck and it's like weird I mean like if Captain America was like slamming someone's ass Martin Scorsese couldn't say it's a theme park I know right right and Marty is right about that he is absolutely
Starting point is 00:38:46 I love the idea of Martin's Corsese finally getting to see a Captain American movie and it's the one where he slams the ass well you got me there and he just got it's a movie it's a cinema now He's slamming ass.
Starting point is 00:39:01 What am I going to say? I haven't done it. I haven't done it yet. You see that Captain America up there? You see that Captain America in the window? That Captain America is fucking my wife. Slamming her ass. I mean, it sounds good.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Martin Scorsese should be directing like an Avengers movie. Oh, yeah, Martin Scorsese has Red Skull. You know what's fucked up, though? If Martin Scorsese directed a Marvel movie and it was like as long as Avengers Endgame that'd be like, well, why is it got to be so long? Scorsese needs an editor, what the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 That's a whole other rant for another episode, I feel. The Irish man ruled. It does. Totally. Except them De Niro Contacts, though. What's that? I said, except them De Niro contacts. He's looking like a fucking robot.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Oh, yeah, that's true. That was so fucking weird. It distracted me so much. It distracted me, too. Like, nobody gives a fuck with that guy's eyes. looked like there's Irish people without blue eyes get out of here. Yeah like come on like you know there's sometimes a certain
Starting point is 00:40:03 level or interest in like realism that I'm like who gives a shit it's a fucking movie like who cares like throw that out I don't give a shit. How about a species movie where it's Robert De Niro with eerie blue eyes and he's coming at you we're making it through last season of
Starting point is 00:40:21 the only season of haunting at Hillhouse and oh nice dude for the first time we're halfway through it's really great and Henry Thomas, again, famously dark eyes, and he gets played by Timothy Hutton later on, who has blue eyes. They gave him these blue contacts. The first couple of scenes, I'm like, is he a werewolf or what? Like, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:40:42 It never looks right. Just cast people with blue eyes. There you go. Or just don't even worry about it. People won't know. No, no. Or like, who cares? Like, yeah, it doesn't need to be like that exacting.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Are you looking forward to the new one that's coming out Friday? I am. Fly House. I got to finish the first one first. Fly Manor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our mutual friend, Clint Worthington was saying that it was a more like Gothic approach, which I'm psyched about. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:11 More Gothic, there's, it's really, it's really fascinating. I'm not obsessed with it. I don't think it fully works in parts, but I really love the characters. Like that's what really, the characterization and the acting for the most part. It's really good. There's some interesting ways it plays with the text and with how ghosts can be portrayed. And it has a sadness and bittersweetness to it that I really liked.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I think it's a little too long, though. I felt like it could be eight episodes. Oh, okay. Is he reusing any of the same actors from previous projects? Yeah. So a few of them are reused, including. God, she plays Theo on Hill House. Yeah, that's his wife, whomever she is.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I forget her now. Oh, okay. Oh, yes, that's right. She pops up as, I don't want to spoil. Yes, yes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so she's really good. And she gets a whole episode that's just focused on her character.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And I won't say who her character is because I don't want to spoil you guys. I like it. hasn't come out yet. But I think it's definitely worth the watch. I hope you enjoy it. So they come down to Earth, right? Yeah. And while they're coming to Earth,
Starting point is 00:42:34 I just want to point this out because he's not in a lot and I was pissed off. Speaking of Scorsese and De Niro specifically, Peter Boyle as like this scientist who is locked in a nut house, one of the greatest things cinema has ever captured, thank you Peter Meadek,
Starting point is 00:42:51 is Peter Boyle throwing a chair at a television? He's fucking losers. He is, you don't really know who he is just yet. He's screaming like, you should have gone to Mars. Don't let him go to Mars. And he's freaking the fuck out in this movie. He keeps him saying, told him not to go.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I told him not to go. And I'm like, you keep telling him Marvin the Martian's real. Oh, hello, Peter Boyle. You have to imagine they get told them not to go, like a commercial with a family going to the Popeye's drive-through. There's also somebody yelling that. at that. So, like, this is just a normal day for them to, like, ah, never mind him, never mind.
Starting point is 00:43:30 He told him not to go, oh, I'm so sorry, yes. They come back to Earth. We're introduced to Mark Helgenberger and Natasha Henshridge again. Natasha Hensstrich is playing Eve now, who is a clone of Sil, the character from the first movie. And according to the IMDB Tribune trivia, this is an acronym. for Eve is you know with the periods
Starting point is 00:43:58 yeah acronyms yeah got it okay all right now that you guys are caught up finally sure extraterrestrial vulnerability experiment sure does that does that happen anywhere in the movie though do they say that anywhere yeah then that's then it then it's
Starting point is 00:44:14 it might be a novelization carryover situation but that's fine but that doesn't count for the movie trivia sure that's on novelization D.B.com. It's not in there because it's stupid. It sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:44:30 It sounds awful. The species expanded universe books. Here's my thing. The last movie, it has a little stinger scene. It's not in post credits, but it's like a sequel set up with that fucking rat, where's the rat? Species 2 colon, where is the rat? There could be a rat apocalypse happening and we don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh my God. Just in the sewers. It's like rat like chaos. yeah like what's going on beneath the streets and species do that's what i want to know i think that rat becomes splinter and he trains some turtles oh shit ninja turtles prequel well steve as you you might have forgotten there was a campaign led by premier magazine to have the rat removed from the end of species oh of course yeah everybody thought it was really bad and a little cheesy but like so they're like let's get rid of the rat from the end of species.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Are you making a departed reference? Yes. Did that happen? Did Premier Magazine do that? No, I'm kidding. Oh, all right. But people didn't. People weren't up in arms about that. Twitter's always like, we got to get the rat out of the departed. It's like, well, that's the point. But the thing is like the rat is, the rat is. Also, that movie's 14 years old, fucking get over yourself. The rat encapsulates to me to never, ever set up your sequel. Because you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, people will come along anyway. You're always going to, you're going to come I'm at it with fresh eyes. You go, I don't want to make a movie about an evil rat. Well, too fucking bad, because you told me it was going to be an evil rat movie. Exactly, dude. Like, fucking Princess Toadz do a burst into the house and said, you're not going to believe this. You need to fucking follow whatever you're not going to believe.
Starting point is 00:46:05 You could easily fix it, too. Like, the rat goes up some homeless guy's asshole, and now he's, like, got the sex powers of the aliens. You know, and then you just move on. Yeah, that is one way to fix it, dude. You're totally right. Some Richard Gear look alike. You just have it.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And then the rat turns to the camera and goes, got lost on the way to Albuquerque. A young John Slattery, perhaps. Yeah, dude. Getting sloppy with a rat in his ass. But there's no species animals in this entire movie. Am I wrong? There's not, no. No, I thought that cat was going to be something at the end, but it did not go down.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It didn't happen. Chris is dying for a fucking horse to get this species. Hell yes. Species horse. Holy shit. Oh, no, that's scary. That's unstoppable. It's scary because that's unstoppable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It's an unstoppable beast. Species whale. Ooh. Species whale. Yeah, that would be, that would end everything. That would be destruction. Then some fetishist named Jonah could be like, consume me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Oh, man. I was bored for this. Oh, meet me up. We meet her, and she's being, like, tortured sort of. They're gas in her, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the gas chamber shit.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I was like, this is okay. We're gas and women. Can we, uh, that's what we're doing here? Can we, uh, can we, uh, some clothes on? No, no, no, no. No, she has to be, uh, she doesn't have to have any. It's like this primary blue colored straps or something.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Like she's an ex-man. Yes. She's naked riding a roller coaster. That's what it looks like. Like the same. safety straps, just precisely going over the nipples. And I want to call it bullshit on Mark
Starting point is 00:47:54 Helgenberger here, because she keeps being like, we have to do this ethically. There has to be, like, you're trying to kill someone every single day. Like, you don't know what I mean? There's no real ethical. I mean, like, there's better ways to do it than not. But I mean, like, let's go off our fucking
Starting point is 00:48:08 high horse here, Helgenberger. Yeah, she's sort of bullshit because she also like says to various people at different points, you know, she's human too. And I'm like, you know, if you really care that much about her humanity you wouldn't be torturing her? Like how are you? Totally. You can't be
Starting point is 00:48:24 Dr. Mangala and Oscar Schindler at the same time. Yeah. I want to make a correction on something I said on the first species episode. Oh, okay. I blame the fact that I'm high just perpetually. But when I
Starting point is 00:48:42 like was talking about it, I imagined like the scientists were like tippity type. sexy ladies and then I was like watching it and I was like oh no they're just like regular women who are like in their 40s yeah totally it's Mark Helgenberger and a team of like soccer moms that are doing these experiments yeah pretty great but you're totally right though like if you cared about this person Eve such as she is a person like you wouldn't be locking her in this fucking
Starting point is 00:49:11 Magneto jail cell yeah they have all women guarding her so that like she doesn't like get out and screw them and kill them but like maybe it would be interesting if the alien had you know gay sex and spread it that way as well I guess maybe that'd be too much of an allegory for something else Helican Berger's only speciality at this point
Starting point is 00:49:32 is Hunt is like studying these aliens so she has to exist for her career to exist and the thing is it's like how do we kill these aliens if they ever come back like you just burned that last alien it wasn't that bad like it wasn't that difficult I mean it killed quite quite a few people.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Sure, of course, Chris, but so did fucking Jack the Ripper. But at the end of the day, that was just a person. No, it wasn't. If you were to believe that Star Trek, the original series episode,
Starting point is 00:49:59 it was a fucking phantom cloud organism or something. That's exactly where I was going, and you are correct. It was a phantom cloud. I mean, Jack the Ripper was maybe a bad example, so let's say, Jeffrey Dahmer. He's a real human man.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Like, yeah, I mean, and she gets, and now there's this thing where in, like, they, she adapts to whatever happens to her so she heals we got like wolverine healing which was not in the last movie if I'm not mistaken yeah they also kind of bump up her abilities a little bit in this movie like her healing is like incredible it's like there's a yeah she has like warts and all this welts on her after being gassed and then she heals very quickly and what is the actor who plays the colonel or general? Law and Order is George Zunza. Yeah, so the general is amazing because he has some great lines and he's like,
Starting point is 00:50:53 there's also a moment when he's in a helicopter and he's filing his nails. Like he doesn't, he's just like relaxing and doing his nails talking about, yeah, I mean, I'm going to do what I'm going to do and I don't know my brother of him. And it's just like, I was like, man, he should have a spit off.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I would watch more movies with George Zunza as this colonel character, absolutely. And in this movie, man, and he is an absolute unit, the size of this lad. Look at this, motherfucker. Can I just tell you what the goofs on IMDB has? One of the goofs with capital G. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:51:27 The Marine Colonel is far too overweight to be anywhere near U.S. Marine Corps fitness standards. Oh, my goodness. That's true. That is a goof. What a totally goof? What's a goof? If I saw a Marine Colonel that fat,
Starting point is 00:51:45 at the local mall, I'd approach him and say, what unit? What unit? The flag's wrong. So this guy is sort of calling like Hollywood Stolen Valor, is what you're saying? Yeah, tell me about your routine brother at the end of it. It's the great George Zunza. Everybody loves him. He's in the deer hunter. He's in all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Dude, George Zunza, Steve, I'd seen the deer hunter before you pointed this out. But ever since you've pointed it out, I kind of think about it like at least once a month. George Zunza, the shot of him and the Deer Hunter crying while making a shit ton of scrambled eggs is both heartbreaking and hilarious
Starting point is 00:52:21 all of the same time. And relatable. I just will always think about him as a bloody mess and basic instinct. Yes. Like that's the memory I always have of him. My favorite, but he, like, Angelica, his,
Starting point is 00:52:36 the best line is him looking down to being like, look at those welts! Like he's really, really, really impressed with the Welts and, like, wants to get everybody else excited about Welts. But then he's pissed off immediately
Starting point is 00:52:51 because she heals, and Marg has to be like, wow, healing ability. That wasn't there the last movie. Well, sorry, George Zunza, and he's fucking furious. He's like, that should have fucking killed this person. I have all of these other fancy looking military people here. Like, he has to
Starting point is 00:53:07 he turns around to these guys at the end of the scene. He's like, gentlemen, I am so sorry. I thought You were going to see this alien fucking vaporized. I have to apologize. There's this Chuck Grassley guy who comes back later. And he's a motherfucker too. But I don't think he gets it at the end either.
Starting point is 00:53:29 We also say George Zunza also has a glass eye and it rules. He looks like fucking fat cable and I'm way into it. Fat cable. Oh my God. You're totally right. Because if the glass eye with the scar, down, you know, right across the eye socket. Always great.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Rob Leifeld's Fat Cable this summer from Marvel. I'm excited about it. And so, like, after the scene with Eve, don't we now, like, sort of see, or around this time, we see the astronauts, like, you know, getting their blood taken
Starting point is 00:54:03 and, like, being told, okay, guess what, you guys, you can't fuck for 10 days. Yep. This Mickey Mouse sexual quarantine. Put these people in a place they cannot leave. That's what it has to be. Because they almost
Starting point is 00:54:18 immediately are like, yeah, fuck that shit. I mean, like, and then the doctor at one point lifts the blinds and there's all these like screaming ladies. Woo! Astronaut dick, oh my goodness. That's not pussy. Yeah. They're horny medical professionals
Starting point is 00:54:35 too. Yeah. It's like, what's going on? Is this like, can you do their? Like, that doesn't seem right. I mean, it's ridiculous. They're about to push pull they look like they're about to push the glass in to get to them yeah oh absolutely like a fucking zombie outbreak yeah i mean it's so ridiculous like when they say that line too it's like and by the way it's a 10 day sex quarantine like that is the setup of a line in the species two porno parody like that is a plot
Starting point is 00:55:04 point in a porno parody is you cannot fuck for 10 days and they all go but we're so fucking horny Yeah, like Dennis, the Dennis character, the black dude played by Mark Kelty of Williamson, he's like looks at the one black woman who's like on the other side of the glass who's like, oh, hey, and he's just like such a horn dog, he's so horny. And he also keeps mentioning, or at least he mentions more than once, that he hasn't had sex in 11 months and like, oh my God, he really needs to fuck. He's like, I mean, and it's almost hilarious how cock blocked he is in this movie. actually. But like, it's funny because we mentioned Neil Armstrong a second ago and Steve calling him
Starting point is 00:55:46 corned beef face and then me thinking about like how Ryan Gosling playing him in First Man, that was a real sexed up version of Neil Armstrong. But in that movie they show you how he was just like straight up quarantine for all that time. They didn't let him go to some fucking reception with James Cromwell the night they got back. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, like quarantine makes more. Like, if you need to be sexually quarantined, you need to be quarantine. Like, full on, like, I don't know what your saliva is like, you know, what does sexual quarantine mean? What about BJs? Like, you don't want to get into that conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah. So that's why you quarantine the people all together. Yeah. And you don't blame, like, sex for the reason. It's like, we just got to straight up quarantine it. That's all. Then you can have your Senator James Cromwell reception, you know, at the end of that. They have this reception and it's weird because Michael T.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Williamson and the lead species dude. are dressed like they are part of space force, like this army regalia, but the female astronaut doesn't have it, and I'm like, why they should all be dressed out? I don't know. No, you're right. Why would our secretary be in a uniform?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah, she was just taking notes on Mars. She's from the Secret Lady Brigade. They don't have a patch. The character, I don't even know that they say her full name once, at least that IMDB is Anne Sampis. It's amazing because it's the two of it. She also has a shit name in this movie. I mean, it's just terrible to this character up and down.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's her and Michael T. Williamson and like their spouses and they're waiting for Patrick as this guy to come back. And she's just like, who I don't feel so good. I'm like, dude, you have the fucking Martian Plague. And this is bad news. Yep, you got to get up from this banquet table and go tell a fucking astronaut doctor that you don't feel well. Yeah, that's just like, imagine being in that banquet
Starting point is 00:57:35 and like overhearing that while you're like eating your food. And you're like, wait a minute, didn't that bitch just come back from Mars? Oh, honey, we got to go. Okay, we got to fuck up out of here. It's a fucking temper spreader event. Exactly. Did I tell you that I blacked out for like 12 minutes in the middle of this Mars thing? I don't remember a thing at all.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Even if that thing turned out to be totally innocuous and like there's no species two movie, that would be the birth of a trillion conspiracy theory. Like, what happened in those seven minutes on Mars? Oh, my God, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And what happened was in those 15 minutes, a fucking astronaut molested a child in a space pizza place, you know what I?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Oh, yes. And they would believe that. It would be the Q-Lodd people taking it to NASA and it would just be the craziest shit you've ever heard. Martian adrenochrome, for sure. The question, it's not NASA in this, though, right? It's something else. Or did I, like, mishear or mention?
Starting point is 00:58:35 I think that they don't have NASA license. here. I didn't see any like NASA logos. I think you're right. I didn't. I don't notice for sure, but. It is more of a space force thing. It's like there, because there is a badge there, but it's like United States space like gentry. I don't know. Space gang. Now that I'm thinking back to what Belser says in that speech, it's something about like how he's always deemed that like space exploration was important.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And that's why funding through private companies, blah, blah, blah. So it kind of makes it look like we're in an alternate universe here where NASA has been completely defunded. And, you know, it's like it's private, the private sector is taking over space. Kind of like where we are now. So it's
Starting point is 00:59:22 SpaceX or Pepsi. I'd rather take fucking Pepsi's word than Elon Musk's word. Yeah. If we're allowing Pepsi to go to Mars, I mean, Coca-Cola owns the moon outright. Outright.
Starting point is 00:59:36 James Cromwell, who rules, by the way. That's his tombstone. It's James Cromwell, comma, who rules? Born X, died Y. Like, that's how it has to be. I imagine that he is just his character in succession. Oh, he plays a real fucking awesome dude in that show. I think that's just him. I think that's really just him. You think the character on Succession is just James Cromwell in person? I just think that's kind of what he's.
Starting point is 01:00:06 because, I mean, like, take him out of the rich family of assholes thing. They share similar, like, environmental concerns. Yeah, like, he's a radical dude, like, literally a radical environmentalist, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I always imagine him as Deferm Cochran, but that's just me. But, like, in this movie, he's kind of playing a big dick energy Mitch McConnell kind of dude. Like, it's like Mitch McConnell, but Alpha. Yeah, I think it's like a Lloyd Benson type of character because he keeps talking about Jack Kennedy. Like, oh, Jack Kennedy would have loved that.
Starting point is 01:00:36 this going to Mars he would have loved it yeah he had a frame picture of Kennedy in his office which is on the first floor and you can like see the parking lot from his window or something shit that was weird I've never seen a senator have an office like that before
Starting point is 01:00:52 I was like is that safe for a senator like to maybe higher up maybe I don't know like he could pop out the window and going on adventures like Professor Jones he can literally pop open the window and like piss out of it if he needed to It's a bit of a security risk if you're, like, doing total request live for a senator, like, with a whole, like, big window box.
Starting point is 01:01:16 If only the youth of America was that obsessed with politics in this country, that would be something. But so, Patrick, as Angelica previously said, is, like, trying to hook up with this woman, he realizes to do the speech. He does the speech. He's like, hey, meet me in my room. This is one of the craziest things I've ever seen because it's so unnecessary. it's a threesome scene which is totally fine like you know he comes in it's her and she's like
Starting point is 01:01:39 oh hey this is Naomi or whatever else and it's like that's fine my sister later later we do everything together and it's just like first of all y'all don't look like sisters I see no family resemblance really
Starting point is 01:01:55 to wait what wait what's happening we do everything together speaking to which we got I go take a shit. Yeah, we do everything together, including fucking alien dudes. I mean, it's just so, again, like, we are like tap dancing on the line of whether or not this is soft-core pornography with stuff like this.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Like, this doesn't need to be in movies that are, you know, ostensibly sci-fi horror movies. I was stunned we didn't go for full-on incest because they go to the tag team model of the threesome, which is fine. Which is the best way to do it if your fucking relative is in mind. Well, can I just say that actually piss me off. If you're going to have your sister in there, you know, it might as well fucking go for it, bitch. You know, you want to do that?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Fucking, you're going to go for it, okay? You want to talk about how we do everything together. We'll do everything together. One of you can be getting fucked. The other one can be pegging him. I don't know. Figure it out. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Exactly. Get fucking grandma involved. The whole family. wheel them in I don't understand like this whole scene works totally fine
Starting point is 01:03:11 and similarly it's like this is my roommate it's same movie it doesn't matter this is my co-worker this is my younger buddy I don't know
Starting point is 01:03:23 this is a woman I found on the bus step sister every all problems are solved that's the move dude well no no no they know they know this the son of a senator So, of course, he wants to defile God when he's having sex. So, I mean, it makes complete sense that they would be like, no, like, I don't even think
Starting point is 01:03:42 they are sisters. They're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're sisters. And we do this all the time together. Yeah, we'll talk about splitting it later. Listen, we either pretend we're sisters or it's going to be ninth gate sex. And I would much rather pretend we're sisters, okay? I was about to say, like, this son of a senator, he's going to draw a pentagram on the floor, That is normal for a son of a senator.
Starting point is 01:04:05 By the way, the astronaut, son of a senator, the last thing he did was on live TV, was addressing the nation after coming back from Mars saying the one thing I thought about when I was coming back was, we have to protect the earth. Yeah, you have to protect them from outside invaders. And I'm like, what the fuck did you see in those 15 minutes, motherfucker? The way he says it to is like, I saw how fragile the earth is and how it could be destroyed. He's like, oh, shit, I'm talking like an alien. Oh, I better change my speech.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And while up there, I saw that the greatest danger to us all was, damn it. Oh, here it is. It would be easy to destroy what God created. Right. Yeah. Creepy. You expect Kang and Koto's to be like, oh, we did not mean that. What he meant to say was.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Malfunction, malfunction, like he just starts freaking out and shitting. So this sex scene is happening. And this is where you see this dude's hairy ass because it's like he's taking turns with these ladies so like we get to the scene he's finishing with the first woman from the coat closet and then it's like oh now it's my turn and like this other lady gets into bed
Starting point is 01:05:16 and he starts going in town and you just look and I thought he was being fucked or she was being fucked by a werewolf like remember that scene in the Coppola Dracula where it's like Winona Ryder and then there's the big you know Dracula turns into the beast creature that's what I was like look at that hairy ass my god wax it
Starting point is 01:05:33 you're in a motion picture so you're saying you wax your ass is that what I'm learning because you seem really adamant about this no because I'm not in a major motion picture what are you kidding me I look like Harry and the Henderson's back there but I'm saying this guy knows he's going to
Starting point is 01:05:50 be in a moon you'll notice I'm not throwing stones I'm saying no comment on anything Andrew just likes cleared brush when he's watching this movie. You want your ass to look the best in a major motion picture. You do.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Thank you. That's what I'm saying. And all I'm saying is hairy asses don't look good on camera. I've waxed. I've waxed probably everything. But like, okay, quick question around the room. Maybe Steve, you've seen this. But because you'll know in a second.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But have you ever watched the British show Naked Attraction? No. I mean, it sounds like I should, though. What is it? Okay, so. Because when you said British show and the words naked attraction, all my antenna went up. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So it's basically about, it's like a dating show. And so someone comes on to the dating show with, you know, their likes and dislikes. There'll be six people in a pod and a colored pod, and they're all naked. And it's slowly the pod window raises up. And the first thing you see are their bits. So either in their dicks, their pucies, whatever's going on down there. And it's so fascinating people's hair preferences I've noticed. Like that's why I'm like harping on Andrew.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Sorry, Angelica, is this, this is uncensored? It's uncensored. It's fucking amazing. A lot of people with piercing. What www.com can I find this? Oh, it's on Pornhub. Okay. But it's a show that airs on British television?
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yep. And it's uncensored. I, everything you can watch is uncensored. I'm not joking. It's amazing. The host is like, I don't know, these British people are so delightful. I don't know. Do they have good bits?
Starting point is 01:07:42 There's some really good bits. There's also some British comedy. I love it. Well, so that's like the conceit of the show is like once you've like had enough to make your decision, you're like, oh, number three. No, no. Love it for sight, right? Like you see like a cock you really like and you're like, you just fall in love
Starting point is 01:07:59 with that cock, right? Yeah, exactly. And so, like, you know, first round, you see the bits, you cut one person off. Second round, they raise it a little bit more. So eventually you get to see their face. And then also the person who's, like, you know, in the driver's seat and is choosing has to get naked, too, when it's down to two people that they're choosing between. So the last two get to see the person who's, like, running the, you know, decisions.
Starting point is 01:08:25 There are bits, too. can they like now can they reject the main person looking at their bits like once it gets down to the final no I've never seen that happen
Starting point is 01:08:36 but I haven't seen the whole show so maybe you know I'd be surprised oh no it's actually usually really like so what happens is after the person like chooses whoever it is they go on a date
Starting point is 01:08:49 sometimes the same day sometimes a week later whatever naked no fully clothed usually at a bar restaurant I can picture the British narration They went on a naked date
Starting point is 01:09:00 A run They went to a special They went on that naked coffee And then they'll do Like after the date It'll be a few weeks later They meet back in the studio And it's typically very awkward
Starting point is 01:09:11 And it's very obvious When people haven't actually fucked It's really funny Well I just Here's when the first person gets cut Let's call it the first guy Do you know who that is? Do you see his face
Starting point is 01:09:25 or that their face? Because that sucks. You don't want to go to your mates and be like, yeah, I was the first one cock because I got a small cock. I mean, there are definitely some small cocks.
Starting point is 01:09:36 There's some really, there was one like really curved cock that I was just like, wow, that is more curved than I've ever seen. Ooh, yeah, you got to watch out for those piping under a sink dicks do those curves. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:09:49 But so what happens is, like, once that person's cut, they'll raise the thing completely, they'll come out. And they'll sometimes hug the person And if I really want you guys, please go on Pornhub, naked attraction, track it down. I got to find it.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Hey, Dr. Seuss Dick, get out of here. Oh, sorry about me crooked Willinger. I'll be getting off now. Wow. Too big. Didn't see that coming. This is what we're missing in America's good genitalia content. This is what we miss.
Starting point is 01:10:22 The thing is, is they canceled real sex on HBO, and this is what's happened, is that we have no good genitalia. You're totally right. 100%. Here's a thing, though, Chris. Theory I have. No, and while I think you're right,
Starting point is 01:10:35 real sex is kind of a bad example, though, because I watched a lot of real sex, and there was almost exclusively bad genitalia. But that's the thing is you don't want it all to be nice genitalia. You have to have some ugly genitalia, too. It has to have a bay of max. It has to be, like, the old mixture that you got at, like, the candy.
Starting point is 01:10:53 thing. It was like gummy bears and the Mike and Ix and the fucking, you know I want to go to your candy store. Oh, sorry, mate. I was open for a Snickers bar. Got a small handful of Mike Nikes. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:11:10 See, that's what you, but you have to have it because if you see too much pretty genitalia, you're just living in a fucking dream world. You're right, Kevin. We're spoiled by pretty genitalia. Yes. Yeah, we need We're will fast, I guess. So, I guess, you know, you got to retract your statement, Andrew, unshave
Starting point is 01:11:25 that ass. Unshave my ass. If say you love me again. I will agree to unshave your ass to you. But if there was fucking wang in this movie, I can forgive the hairy ass if there's wang, but there's a hairy ass and no wang, what are we doing?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Or top cock. And by top I do have to be clear. I mean like under abs, you see just the beginning of what's going to happen. And then that's it. Oh, like those Brad Pitt Pube muscles and fight club. Exactly. Yeah, that's always really nice. That is cock cleavage.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Exactly. I want to cock cleavage a little bit. Yeah. Love it. I'm totally working that into my day-to-day Bernatio. There you go. As you should. As you should. But like, so she goes, woman A goes to the bathroom while her sister is having a sexual experience, which is
Starting point is 01:12:15 totally cool. She's like, owie, I don't feel so good. I fucked a Martian. Yeah, but it's like after she's fuck this dude he's come it's obvious that I guess nobody uses condoms in this movie is what we're learning which is like I'm just in all of y'all
Starting point is 01:12:35 I'm the son of a senator so I'll just have them killed it's fine I'll have them driven off a bridge it's fine it's a son of a senator you're either going to get paid off or you get killed and it's like a flip of the you know to go either way yeah it's always killed though she's in the bathroom and like
Starting point is 01:12:53 you know she's like being a sexy lady looking in the mirror and then she's like I'm touching myself you know wow I'm a sexy white lady and that's what they do with these and and then her stomach starts growing because she's pregnant with his alien baby and then while she's dealing with that horror show in the bathroom I mean she starts like falling and she's grabbing stuff and like no no no she's like flipping the phone her sister sure not her sister please yeah um who's being fucked by um what's his Patrick Patrick um by Patrick it starts to get weird because weird alien tentacles start like coming from his back and like she feels one of them greasy nasty looking things and she's like she gets some too right and it basically turns into a rape scene because she's like screaming yeah he's like coming like lizards and frogs and or something. Yeah, it's not good.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I'm sorry, but that's this faster. That was my interpretation. You'd think, though, to like, you know, keep everything on the level and not cause a screaming scene in a hotel room, this dude would hold back on the tentacle access. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Like, don't give up the ghost. Yeah, I don't think he can control. They sort of play with this idea in the movie that, like, it's almost sometimes like he's in a trance when he's doing things. and doesn't seem like because there's moments we'll get to the moments but like I don't want to jump too far ahead but there's like certain moments where it seems like he's like I really need help I don't know what's going on
Starting point is 01:14:35 and then like the alien side decides to attack the person that he's trying to get help from and it's funny the timing is all over the map but like this is the only time where I think we see like the tent we still see the full like tentacles coming out all at the same time while climaxes come I mean this is like as closest we're ever going to get to an American remake of possession I think ever like this is about as close as it's going to get
Starting point is 01:15:04 first of all let's say we never want that to happen no no no no never that you're never going to that's some god tier fucking cinema baby that's one of the best movies ever made don't go fucking sullying that with our goddamn stars and stripes for
Starting point is 01:15:22 Chris Gavin, come on. So this all happens and like everyone's screaming and there's blood everywhere. It's pretty gory. It's super gory, which I appreciate it. Her stomach like, like, flowers open. It's like almost like it's really gross. And then the baby head is like, eh.
Starting point is 01:15:40 It reminds me a little shop of horrors. Dude, it's very little shop. And here was my beef was like, fuck me, Seymour, fuck me. When she like, bursts open like that, you know, much like a Venus fly trap. Like she's still just like, oh my
Starting point is 01:15:59 God, I've exploded. And I was like, no, this lady's just dead at this point. Like that's from shock. You are, he's grinned it. Like, it's done. So can I, can I tell you guys a story? Please. So I saw this movie on vacation is the outer banks of North Carolina. Nice vacation spot.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I was going, so my whole family was there. Me and an older cousin who I rarely spend any time with said we're going to go see species too everybody else went to see City of Angels both terrifying films mind you so I have not spent much time with this cousin like at all it's just the two
Starting point is 01:16:38 of you going to the movie and so it's just me and her going to the movie we're sit down kiss and cousins we hit yes we were making out the whole time Eric you're correct that's awesome we were, so we're sitting now, we're watching the movie, we get to this scene, and
Starting point is 01:16:56 I, like, I had never seen anything this gross before that. Like, this was the grossest thing I'd ever seen in my life. And I audibly say, holy shit. And she didn't know that I cursed like that yet, so she burst out laughing while everybody else in the
Starting point is 01:17:12 theater is rightly horrified at what's happening on the screen. You know what's funny, Kevin? Cut to what is that 22 years later I also said holy shit
Starting point is 01:17:24 at that exact same it's crazy it's a crazy moment and everything's going nuts and then we just cut to James Cromwell's office and he's like
Starting point is 01:17:32 well boy you stepped in it again I'm like what are you talking about like isn't there alien gook everywhere and an alien baby
Starting point is 01:17:40 presumably it's a weird cut and it's just sort of like you gotta keep it in your pants son and I'm like okay you see the dude after that scene
Starting point is 01:17:48 Steve you see the guy taking the kid to the country house. Oh, okay, all right. And then it cuts to Cromwell. But to your point, though, you know, we are talking about, like, you know, whatever, we're going to get to it two seconds anyway, but he murders his wife the same way, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:18:04 And then it's like, oh, we're fucking tracing this murderer kind of a thing. But no one ever brings back, oh, those two women were murdered in the Abraham Lincoln suite of whatever fancy hotel this is. It's not mentioned ever again. I think it's presumed that.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Cromwell bails him out like you know like no but like it's weird because like Cromwell it seems like he only learns of the alien shit later though yeah yeah yeah so that's why i thought like it's not that he got bailed at like it doesn't really track because it's like they do mention that there's like a serial killer at some point in oh right in dc yeah in the dc area um but they don't ever mention those specific murders because obviously like we see him bury one of the bodies once. But, like, we don't really get to see how he figures out a lot of other scenarios.
Starting point is 01:18:59 You're totally right. And the burying the body thing also appears to be one of those scenes where he's, like, coming out of it almost. And I wanted to mention this earlier, but, like, the movie would be so much, and I think this movie's totally fine, it's ridiculous and fun.
Starting point is 01:19:11 But, like, it would have been a little more interesting if it was more of that, like, Jekyll and Hyde, this dude wrestling with that. And again, you would then be asking more of that actor So I get it, I get it, you know A real actor for that part then Right, but if the movie was more of like, holy fucking shit Like this dude like trying to deal with that
Starting point is 01:19:30 And like doesn't know what's going on And the movie kind of winds up just abandoning it After he fucking blows his brains out at one point I just think the guy needs to find a furnace Like a good furnace to bring all these bodies It's a little touchstone you can go back to So nobody's wondering about what's happening He's just increasing size of bodies.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Instead, he's got a kitty barn. Yeah, and they're like wearing these ghostly gray outfits. And it's just like... It's like a child army. Yeah, it's really, like it looks like a cult. But Eric, you bring up a good point with like, you know, what if a real actor was in this role of Patrick? Like, if you guys could recast this role in 1998,
Starting point is 01:20:16 who would you guys put in the role? And someone who could actually handle what... Okay, so 98, I'm going to say Marlon Brando. Oh, wow. Yeah, you really thought about that. I'm going full on McConaughey here. It's 98. Oh, yeah, contact era, sexy McConaughey.
Starting point is 01:20:33 He's not the best actor in the world yet, but he's almost there kind of a thing. You know, I would say, too, you need a dude who's, like, sexy government-looking man, astronaut kind of person. You get Jason Patrick in that role. I think he could blow it off. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's definitely cheaper for sure. I would even take, I would take Aflack, do this instead of Armageddon. But how much would this, because the movie, I think, cost $35 million,
Starting point is 01:20:58 which is more than what I thought, because I was just like, I thought it looked cheap in a lot of ways. Especially, God, these outfits, did you guys notice that a lot of times people's blazers and pants don't match, okay? That's a big problem. That's a big problem. And some of the time, too, it's like not a really start. dark like khaki and then like blue jacket it's a lot of like I'm wearing like a dark blue
Starting point is 01:21:25 jacket and then clearly I'm also wearing like black slacks like I fucked it up that bad like there is some terrible dressing going on that's the Donald Trump look I think I can almost think of a Matthew Lillard doing this oh sure instead of wing commander yeah instead of wing commander I'm sure he'd be fine with that too well the question's got the manic energy you want I think yeah that's but if we're talking about like the acting prowess you might need for something like this it wasn't revealed until very recently that matthew lillard was like awesome outside of the manic stuff though sure maybe ryan philippe i don't know definitely not no i'm not going to tolerate that i don't remember this movie i think came out a year after this the astronaut's wife it seems like
Starting point is 01:22:11 a similar plot yes oh it's johnny depit charliez i think is charliez the titular astronaut's wife? I believe so. Yeah, she is, and Depp is the astronaut. Right, right. Angelica, did you have an actor in mind? No. That's fine. Wait, you became the game master? I am the game master.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Damn. I love it. You can still be the J. Master. Yeah. They wind up doing whatever. At some point, what point does Big Old Zunza be like, get me press Mason or whatever this character is?
Starting point is 01:22:46 Press Lennox, Press Lennox. But his full name is Preston Lennox. Yes. Yeah, that sucks. Preston Lennox, who's now in the private sector. Yep, absolutely. He's like an Eric Prince type. He definitely is, like Preston Lennox, like, private security, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:06 He's saving this embassy from, like, terrorists who are, I guess, threatening. Is it hungry? What is the country? I was just about to ask, could you guys figure out the flag? because like I tried to and I Well it was like I ain't so good at flags The flag I thought for a second
Starting point is 01:23:23 Was actually the Mexican flag I think it's Hungarian I think there was a plaque on the wall maybe There is that's what I'm saying yeah There was a close up of the doorway And it's like Hungarian embassy or something like that Oh I totally know But we're just in Sarasota because he's just like
Starting point is 01:23:38 That way you just saw it was a recreation of events it could happen Oh really? Yeah he's doing a sales pitch For these people He's all fucking fake. He's doing the sales pitch for Benghazi. Yeah, it's that's like this huge group of people who probably want assassins and mercenaries and like are just a bunch of really fully fucked up people. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Bill Gates has got some guys there scouting out, see if they've got some people. And George Zunza. Oh, go ahead. Oh, no, I was going to quickly mention that I think right before this, the doctor at the lab is killed by the blood. That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah. That's why George Zunza. Zunza's like, you know, get me
Starting point is 01:24:18 Preston, blah, blah, blah. Because this scientist who hilariously looks almost exactly like Francis Ford Coppola gets like murdered. It's the weirdest like the, he drops a thing of blood on the floor. It's Patrick's blood sample. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:24:34 It's absolutely ridiculous. Oh, does it dance off the table? It tries to kill itself, I think. You don't put it a beaker in a big round bottom thing that could just wobble around. And there's so many mistakes made. It's like he's looking at the shit under a microscope and he's like
Starting point is 01:24:50 whoa this is so weird shit let me you know and this is after he called what's his name's mental hospital trying to get in touch with him. Oh right yeah he calls up where Peter Boyle is you know exactly and and then yeah the bicker or whatever starts not beaker but like the bottle starts
Starting point is 01:25:08 like tap dancing off the fucking table. It's like the toaster and Ghostbusters too it's just fucking dancing and he's like no He's like, oh, no, I poured too much soapy water and vegetable oil all over the surface. Why did I do that? It gets so confusing because, like, it breaks on the floor and it starts moving around because the blood is, you know, a Martian or whatever. And it goes into the wall.
Starting point is 01:25:35 And then he gets, like, eaten by an alien through the wall. And I was like, oh, is Eve breaking out? Because we cut away. Who is that alien? It's just, it's the blood. It's the blood, apparently, for him. comes into an alien. It's like the thing.
Starting point is 01:25:48 All the blood is sentient, yada, yada, yada, yada. Is that right? That's stupid. Shoulder shrug. But there's a creature there. There's definitely a creature there that eats his stomach. Yeah. Because it like burst through the wall and like gets him in the gut.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Exactly. I thought Eve was on the other side with a little like glass listening in. But no, it's just the blood goes into the wall because that makes this special effects cheaper. Yes. So is like press ledics like getting like big tubes of all these. small monsters that are popping up everywhere, because there's a couple of these suckers, as it turns out.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Remember, one jumps up from the lady's head. It would be more interesting if it was like, Press Lennox Monster Hunter is his new business instead of Press Lennox fucking Blackwater Private Security shit. We open and you got a title card, Transylvania.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Hey, Dracula. You got the wrong bathroom, drag. And he like shoots him in the head or something. I mean, when Zunza says, get me, press Lennox, you are expecting, like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dilix. But it's exactly, though, it's more what you would expect from Michael Madsen, which is a completely lackluster introduction. He, like, sachets out of his fucking fake consulate, like, I'll take it from here, guys.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Yeah, down the stairs. Yeah, totally. he looks like shit and then it's like oh you've got a fucking message from George Zunza or whatever and he's like all right everybody my assistant over here
Starting point is 01:27:25 will take all the questions you have about my private security firm he's great and he's sweating and heaving from walking down this hill like just like George Junja yeah
Starting point is 01:27:38 and Zunza's like hey there's another alien on the loose yada yada and he's just like hey I killed that last she bitch and that's it the term she bitch I am I'm just enamored with it it's just so stupid it doesn't make any fucking sense there ain't no
Starting point is 01:27:55 he bitch out there I mean there are he bitches let me tell you Andrew maybe there are he bitches in existence but the expression he bitch I don't think is real I'll know as far as a hymn oh Angelica is that also on porn hub if I go search he bitch
Starting point is 01:28:12 I think I would direct a porno called he bitch because that sounds fun. Welcome back to He Bitch. Would He Bitch be like a Masters of the Universe Pornow Parity, though? That's what I, like, felt like and, like, have a lot of prog rock rock or something like you. Skeletor is boner.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Skeletor's Boner, you get it? I'm Johnny Knoxville and welcome to He Bitch. I wish people could see video because, like, Eric, why did it look like you were holding a cock? I got experience with it See this is why I can't wait for live shows to happen again Once COVID is defeated
Starting point is 01:28:53 So people can see that Like there it is There is the ghost cough that Eric Holding amorphous genitalia Eric's fucking improv object work with a cock Yeah it's good It's been two grand to figure that one out I did though
Starting point is 01:29:11 Oh what a scam. We were wrapped up in, Steve. So, but he's, like, very reluctant to do it. He's like, I did that once. I'm not doing it again. And he's like, how about a million dollars tax free? He's like, sold. You know what? And I don't fault you for that.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Sure. Tax free. Although, why don't we negotiate a little bit? Like, apparently you're the only person that can catch this thing that can just be defeated by fire. So, like, I don't know, man. If you're the only dude fucking slinging, like, jack that price up. If you're the only one. Exactly. Always ask
Starting point is 01:29:43 for more. Like, just, you know, the worst they can say is no, but at least you ask. That's what I'm right. Exactly. Exactly. And actually, in this instance, the worst that can happen is you walk away getting a million dollars. That's still pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Tax free, baby. Yeah. That would be my cold open for my Press Lennox animated series. Every cold open is he gets the offer, like, to help the Indonesian children. And he's like, nope. And then he's like, how about a million dollars tax free? You got it. Press Lennox.
Starting point is 01:30:13 I like it. Do you think Michael Manson, because spoiler alert he makes it out of this movie okay? Do you think he was bumming when he was like, Species 3, huh? They had no use for a press Linux, huh? I think he was looking at the thing and saying, all right, I could make Species 3
Starting point is 01:30:32 or 41 action movies at the same time. Although, I don't know, actually, whenever Species 3 came out, maybe he was like spending the weekend filming a Quentin Tarantino movie or something. Those are the weekends. Those are quitting weekends. QT. weekends. He's not fucking around with those. Sorry Species 3. It's a QT weekend. This is my legacy.
Starting point is 01:30:55 So he and Mark Helgenberger go, their first thing is like, well, we got to talk to Peter Boyle. That was, they traced the phone call. It was like, that was the last phone number that Francis Ford Coppola dialed. So let's go see what's going on. It makes sense, but it also is like, dude, there's three astronauts that just came back from Mars, the seven-minute window, just skip the fucking messenger guys. Yes, I mean, this is what they become. Like, they bring Press Lennox in to become the horny police.
Starting point is 01:31:21 And he's like going around trying to arrest people for being horny. It's pretty fascinating. It is fascinating. It's like, because he's not getting fucked because remember him and Mark Helgenberger. Oh, right. What's your name again? In this movie, Laura? I want to say Laura.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Am I right there? Let's see. Yeah, Dr. Laura Baker. So, Laura, and she's really. blonde in this movie. She is. Like they obviously fucked in the first one if, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:49 right. Yes, yes. All of that. Yes, it was like Marg Helgenberger fucked an ashtray. Oh, God. That's really bad for your like pH balance. Also, it's nothing
Starting point is 01:32:03 but butts. You know what, Eric? Yeah. Not bad. You're welcome. She's getting calls at 2 a.m. I was thinking about that time we fucked once. Would you do it with me against and not tell anybody and just fuck me once, please? Well, the sexually charged language continues because he talks about how they could fuck the human race into extinction.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Yes. It'd be a sex-stinction event. It's a good one. That should have been, it's unfortunate. Well, maybe, you know, you could have made a red band trailer out of it because if they're ever, was a trailer line. Yeah. It is that.
Starting point is 01:32:46 It is really, it's a, it's a great line. It is. I love it. Yeah. For like a late 90s, B.
Starting point is 01:32:54 sci-fi movie, that's a fucking exquisite piece of dialogue. And we're having fun with Michael Madsen, but I don't think many actors could sell it quite as well as Michael Madsen.
Starting point is 01:33:03 You're totally right. You're right. He does the ice squint. He's going to fuck Jume race out of existence. He works in certain, he works in certain things and certain parts.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Well, it's, it reminds me a lot of like double jeopardy where we're like, this is Lifetime movie elevated with a really good cast. This is a sci-fi movie elevated by a really good cast. Yeah. And very good, like, good paste direction as well. Right. Except for the fucking lead practically, right? This Patrick Ross character. They go to Peter Boyle.
Starting point is 01:33:38 He gives this incredibly long explanation about on Mars, there was this civil and then there was this plague that came along and blah blah blah and it's like that's the alien race and something they called it COVID-1 he's kind of doing
Starting point is 01:33:57 yeah he's kind of doing the plot of um what's that alien movie that's not an alien movie the blob uh no oh geez the Ridley Scott film Prometheus yeah it's that same kind of like we you know an alien
Starting point is 01:34:13 and, you know, came and totally terraformed the earth. Apparently, like, Mars was a cool place full of, like, sexy dudes and ladies, and they just got fucked out of existence. That'll happen to you. And then, like, all the cum juice was on the top layer of the sand dunes there. And then that's when they extract the soil sample. And it turns out the soil was soiled. And it sets off the chain of events.
Starting point is 01:34:41 That is this film. But Eric, as ancient aliens expert, Eric Siska, is that not like the crux of the major ancient? Oh, yeah. A part of it, like Mars was once like Earth, and then aliens came and fucked it up, and then they had to go, like, everybody escaped and went to Earth. Ancient aliens is all just like,
Starting point is 01:35:01 everything is horny Atlantis. After, like, Peter Boyle says everything, and they're like, oh, my God, it's aliens. we have to go visit the astronauts. And George Zundjit says the dumbest line in the world. This isn't the X-Files. I'm like, dude, you know aliens exist. And also it's ironic because Peter Boyle isn't a great X-Files episode anyway.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Yes, it's so good. That's what I was thinking of. Best one. He's so awesome on that show, yeah. He was just remembering where he wasn't. Like, oh, this is not the X-Files. Remember my line for Species, too. Where is that Tukovny, boy?
Starting point is 01:35:42 It's a cute line, but again, you know aliens exist. We're talking about an actual alien invasion. So it is sort of the X-Ly. Yeah, but we don't have paperwork. We don't have files. And if this movie's coming out in like 98, so let's say the movie takes place in 98, by 1998 on the X-Piles,
Starting point is 01:36:02 it was confirmed that there were aliens. Don't even worry about it. Like, what are you talking about, Jordan Zunza? It's the exact opposite. You should have said another TV. show. It's dumb. Another TV show that didn't have an alien problem.
Starting point is 01:36:17 So it's like, all right, let's go track down these aliens, these astronauts. We know that they're in a 10-day sex quarantine, which is the fucking honor system, but let's track them down. And I love the idea of like, we better hurry because the fucking quarantine is up. And you know that these three horn dogs
Starting point is 01:36:34 will be getting it wet immediately. Yeah, and which like they all do, and we get to see like different scenarios. I'm curious which one was your favorite out of the three astronauts because they each offer something very different. I think it's the poor fucking, it's the female astronaut who gets no fucking play in this movie.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Yeah. It's her and her husband. That's the saddest one though, dude. It is. It's so sad. It's also violent as hell. I know. It's like, I'm with my husband.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I'm back. We both look like we should be in the 70s because my hair is curled in a very particular way. I was just like, what decade is she in? She looks like Adrian Barbeau in this movie, but like a 1980s Adrian Barbeau. Her husband is trying this vanilla, like, sex talk, like, I missed making love to you.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Dude, get that shit right out of your mouth. Dude, you sound like a fucking weaner with that shit. Come on. We're slamming slime. It's fucking species, too. And it's all being in a cut. Flaming slime, Mary. Yeah, yeah, it's on Pornhub.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Check it out. Welcome back to slamming slime. They're slamming slime. And Derek was kicked off this week, for there was no more slime to slam. We found Edie on the street where she was slamming slime in the middle of a driveway. Edie, what is it like to slam slime?
Starting point is 01:38:05 Uh-oh, we've got ourselves a granny shagger slime slammer. Ooh. 20 points. Old people have a lot of slime. They do. Oh, God. You get you cassing and stuff. I would say my favorite scenario,
Starting point is 01:38:23 even though it ends with fucking like obscene racial profiling, is McHelty Williamson's scene because I was like, this dude is about to get laid on this huge boat. Like, talk about a great time. Which he lives on? Because he said, oh, you thought I was going to live on a tugboat. A tugboat. And he's like, look.
Starting point is 01:38:41 looking at her ass while she's walking up to the boat. The movie does an incredible thing right here where it's like they pull up and I think it's like a full on limo. They get out of the car. He gives the driver a bunch of money. You know, he's like, oh, thanks a lot. And the song that's playing, like
Starting point is 01:38:57 you're led to believe it's music that's in the limo. And then what the movie does, it's like, it's like it comes out of being dietic music into non-diagetic as they're walking up away from the limo. And then when they get back into the the same song becomes diagetic sound again.
Starting point is 01:39:15 It's amazing. I have a theory that a lot of the, I think both the, the, uh, the, the astronaut and her husband, I think, uh, McHelty Williams, who is saved. I think they would all be fine if they did some foreplay.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah, nobody's doing four play. They go directly for the fucking. It's crazy. It's crazy. The clothes are still on and he's ramming his hog inside of her. Exactly. He gets inside of her. I had to say that. It was like, this dude
Starting point is 01:39:45 interred this woman. He didn't, like, lick her nipples. He didn't, like, play with the clit. He didn't think of anything. He literally was just like, whoop. And then Michael Madsen's like, horny police, stop what you doing.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Dude, also, slack zippers are a fucking erection's worst enemy, by the way. Just an FYI. You don't want to put on some shoday. You don't want to maybe put a robot. Maybe, come on. Maybe dance a little.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Oh, dancing, absolutely. Anything. Like, the fact that it's like, I have to get right down to this without taking my fucking suspenders down or my pants off. And there's the really awkward shit where she's like, that's not it. No, that's not it. That's right. That's not. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Meanwhile, this, my question, and this is, I think it's a reasonable one. Sure. Why isn't Anne the female astronaut. So she has sex with her husband and she just, it's basically the same result as if Patrick had sex with a woman wherein she has instant pregnancy, she dies.
Starting point is 01:40:50 It's a little different because her face shoots out a tentacle into her husband and says, elevating this guy on the wall. That is some fucking like beetle juice special effects, man. I don't know what's going on there. But still was an unstoppable killing machine. It's basically the same thing.
Starting point is 01:41:06 She should be like another alien that they have to deal with as opposed to, well, like, they just kind of wrote her out of the movie, obviously. Yeah, but you're totally right, though. This movie opts for, like, they have powers that are way more like the thing. Yes. Then it is, like, here's this, like, Sil is kind of like an alien sexy Terminator kind of situation.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Yeah. Like this unstoppable killing machine that also fucks. And they kind of, like, switch it up a little bit here. You're totally right. But this four... I'm the T-801, all of the powers of the T-8-1. All of the powers of the T-8-Hawks. but I fuck
Starting point is 01:41:40 I need you to take your motorcycle your boots your pants and your condom off no kids don't do that if a fucking Terminator tells you to take the condom off say hey I'm about safety
Starting point is 01:41:55 and then they're going to be like those are the magic words you get a rim drop I don't know maybe no the T1001 cannot turn into a dildo he can only do he can't do complex machines He can only do knives and finger blasting weapons.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Yeah, I'm a finger blasting computer. Everybody knows that Hurtachi T-900 is the hardest and the most dangerous of all of the Terminators out there. Your foster parents have been fucked. Oh, my God! What a great movie, though. What a good movie. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:42:35 But meanwhile, Patrick is with his longtime girlfriend, it seems. and they're like a, she's like, oh my God, baby, I can't believe it's going to happen. And he's even, it's kind of great. This is like the only time you get any kind of like werewolfy stuff where he's like, hey, maybe we shouldn't, which is like a great idea, dude. Yeah, and it's kind of uncomfortable, right? Because he's like, doesn't seem into it. He does not at all.
Starting point is 01:42:57 He's afraid he's going to kill her. And this is the Chris Cabin method of like, I've got to take a shit. Yep. That is how you will silence that. Because what happens here every time is she got. She has the nice volley back after he's like, you know, I don't know. I'm not really feeling up to it tonight. You know, I got back from Mars less than 48 hours or whatever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 01:43:18 You know, he's like, I'm not feeling it. And she's like, that's okay. I'll do all the work. And then it's like, no, you should have said I have to take a shit. And that diffuses the whole situation. Honey, I've been on the road. It's been hardy's day in. It's been hardy's day out.
Starting point is 01:43:33 I'm sorry. I can't do this right now. I haven't eaten this much road. beef in my entire life I can't have sex right now I am closed for business for at least 41 hours we'll talk in 42 hours but for now
Starting point is 01:43:48 but yeah so like the husband is killed because there's like face grabber shit happens this poor Peter Coyote looking bastard gets murdered and they like burst into the hotel room right here it's like you are a bit too late at this point
Starting point is 01:44:04 like that lady's just dead he's dead everybody's fucking dead I think Michael Manson, like, shoots the tentacle maybe. Yeah. Or they burn the baby, I think, at this point, too, right? No, they don't. They have, like, some, oh, no. It's like gas.
Starting point is 01:44:19 It's a vague gas. Yeah, and then it changes at the end when they sort of realize that the black dude has poisonous superpowers. I mean, I don't know. It's not great, man. It's his blood that's coming out of it at the end, but I don't know what's coming out of it at this point. It's just weird.
Starting point is 01:44:39 And that's also a bad, like, prop. It's like, they're supposed to be, like, spraying some sort of toxic chemical on them. And it looks like an almost empty fire extinguisher. Yes. It's like, in this scene specifically, this really confused me. Because, like, they, Michael Mattson shoots the connector between the husband and her. Yes. And then, like, it goes back, and it's, like, going back into her belly, the piece that was hanging out.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Oh, right. And it comes out like it's a fog machine. I thought it was like cheesy horror graphics. I was like, are you serious? In the middle of all this, it's like a fog machine. No, it's this stupid vapor gun they've got. Yeah, I don't know. That comes to nothing.
Starting point is 01:45:21 I mean, it is like an umbilical gore grabbing him. And then the gore factor is pretty through the roof because we even get the autopsy of this woman that's kind of unneeded. Yes, totally. Let me just get this woman's face off and like scratch it off. Dude, it is the funniest fucking thing. He's like, all right, like this, you know, the doctor doing the autopsy is like, well, now we're just going to get a look at her brain here.
Starting point is 01:45:45 And he starts like buzz sawing around the skull. And he just has the line, now I'll just reach behind her ear. And that's what like the fucking, it's a total alien move. It's like the bursting through happens. And this dude's like, oh! And he takes his like the skull saw and just slices this thing. Like he's a samurai. it's incredible
Starting point is 01:46:06 this autopsy docks are as nerves of steel it's amazing so yeah I mean that whole hilarious like buzzsaw thing happens and then this is where we get one of the coolest scenes in the movie that I wish was like explored a little more but like this is where McKelty Williamson
Starting point is 01:46:23 is like oh okay like I got to go find my buddy Patrick and figure out what's going on here and this is this is the weird like conflict that like the movie stops exploring in this scene where Patrick the guy is just like oh fuck like I killed my girlfriend
Starting point is 01:46:38 there's this weird kid that I put in the basement where there's another weird kid I'm just going to fucking kill myself these weird kids are really piling up here yeah dude I'm working on a children of the corn situation in my basement it's really bad
Starting point is 01:46:52 except they're brunettes you know they're brunettes they're not bronze that's true yeah so they're even more freakish right you know to set them on fire immediately so he's like I am going to do the old put a shotgun in my
Starting point is 01:47:07 mouth and fucking pull the trigger and McHawthy Williamson pulls up like at the exact moment he does a couple of cool fence jumps right here which is actually him doing the stunt work. Patrick is sitting down for some a nice country air and some penny royalty. Oh my lord. I love
Starting point is 01:47:23 this moment. I was avoiding that reference but you're not wrong. That's a great way to put it. That is a great way to put it. But then like Williamson watches him fucking do this. The dude blows his head off. Great effect. Great effect. And then
Starting point is 01:47:38 like, not such a great effect as the head building itself back together. Yeah, that's, that's, that's more money for nothing video. But that's probably where the budget is from. Like, that's probably expensive in 98. Oh, dude, they were proud of this shot because they hold on it and watch
Starting point is 01:47:56 the whole thing. There's ways to obscure this. It's on par with Jar Jar Binks for sure. But, like, where I think this movie excels over the first movie is there's way more practical effects going on and I think this is the first really big like computer moment and you're just like
Starting point is 01:48:12 I don't know guys you're making this movie at like 97 it still doesn't look great unfortunately but like the whole like the head sort of builds back up and then the guy's like huh okay and it goes back inside it's just such a crazy power too like
Starting point is 01:48:28 it's too much like have him try to kill himself with slitting his wrists and maybe they go back they reseal. Yeah, I mean, also, though, if, like, if Seal did that in the first movie, like, she would just be dead. Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:41 So it's just this crazy, like, power-up situation. Because it's a man this time. Oh, look out. Look out. A man's got it. FYI, Chris, if I saw you blow your head off and then your head grew back, I still wouldn't go narque on you to the cops, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I'd just be like, you know what? Chris is going through some stuff. That's his business. I'm not getting the authorities involved in this. It's in my fucking business. That's your friendship. Same see, same see Steve. Yeah, same. Yeah, that's a good ass friend though. I would do the same for some of my friends, but then others.
Starting point is 01:49:16 No, I still wouldn't go to the coffee. No, you can. No, but I would be like, I would be like, Chris, last weekend I was stopping by the old homestead. And I saw you blow your head off with a shotgun and then it grew itself back instantly. You're doing okay? I didn't I never do that bone actually looks like that when it was growing there that was something I'm a scarred forever
Starting point is 01:49:41 I love you buddy so then like Patrick immediately goes to what can only be described as sort of like a spawn ranch type situation this like weird motels where it's like a separate cabin for each room Prostitute City it's insane Welcome to Prostitute City
Starting point is 01:49:59 Maryland or whatever this is supposed to be It rules, and also this guy, so, like, yeah, basically, it is, it is a place, it's a, you know, it's, it's a place where you can go and, where everybody knows your name. What's that? Oh, I'm saying it's a place you can go where everybody knows your name. Yeah. You want to see, you know, you want to be where you can see. Troubles are all the same and everybody needs to fuck. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Go to Spawn Ranch, Virginia, or whatever this is. And very clearly, like, you know, you can go and you can get a prostitute. And, like, that's what Patrick's been doing for a while. And there's, like, this montage. At this point, Michael Manson is another great line. He's like, oh, well, I guess he's going to start fucking cocktail waitresses two at a time. I love this sleazy motel proprietor. He's kind of, he's like a Robert DeNier, no.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Oh, no. He's a little like him. He's a little, he's got the cadence a little bit like him. Yeah, it's, it was an unexpected accent. Welcome to Randy's, uh, fuck bunks. Would one of you like to rent a fuck bunk? Yeah, yeah. Nice, yes.
Starting point is 01:51:06 If you're Randy, right? Like, if you're Randy, rent a fuck. Now it's Britishisms again. Yeah, so I'm trying to meld it all together. And you rents number three, I think. Yeah, which is a weird, like, because all the women are, like, standing outside each cabin, and he sort of drives down the main drag, like, like, he's looking at a value menu kind of thing. And he goes into this dude, and he's like, yeah, I'll take the number three.
Starting point is 01:51:29 And the guy's like, good choice. You want cheese on that? And he's like 20 an hour or something, and then he dropped 60. Yeah, that's a lot. But it's smart, though, because he's like, I'm just going to kind of fuck this woman really quickly. And then, like, she's going to inevitably give birth to my offspring. I'm going to have to work on making sure, like, you know, there's enough time. I don't want the next person to be, you know, backed up against my booking.
Starting point is 01:51:57 He does it smart. Just I just want them wants to show me where the rags come from. from. Yes. I just like if they come from the air, if they just come out with the baby, I don't know. I need to know though. I remember six years old and dressed in Burlap Sacks and I don't know where they come from. I think he's stealing
Starting point is 01:52:14 the fucking pillowcases from the hotel. Doing some sewing. That's how you get some fucking bad you know, ew. Ew, that's nasty. Yeah, no, you don't want to be reusing those pillowcases, I'm telling you. Ew, that's probably for real gross. That's the last thing you wanted. That and the
Starting point is 01:52:31 blankets you leave. Oh my God. I hate hotels. All I think about is, man, who's fucked in this room? Oh, and the answer was a lot of gross-ass people, unfortunately. That's why you always throw the top cover on the floor. Fuck that. Get it right
Starting point is 01:52:47 off that bed. I'm not laying on that. And so, like, the press and the gang show up a little too late to find him. And then this is when the guy who's in a wheelchair, by the way, who's running this facility, is like, sure. Yeah, you know, I don't know. all my guys here, they
Starting point is 01:53:03 just come and go. And the guy's like, beat, beat. You get it? And I love Michael Madsen. He says like 40 times. Yeah, and that's the thing. Like Michael Madsen's reaction to this like repeated like, did you get it? Is to just push this man in a wheelchair like towards a car. I love it. And it just
Starting point is 01:53:21 sort of cuts. You don't see what happens to this guy. But like I feel like Michael Madsen would have tolerated that joke if the guy told it just one time. You get it? Come and they go. Ha-ha. I'd shove him into traffic too He looked like he wanted to do a Freddie Louns with him. Yeah, oh dude, light him on fire, man.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Oh, my God. Yeah, that's actually what I thought about. Which I was like, why is that my association with, you know what? No comment. That is why it's your third appearance on this show, because you're going deep in the Freddie Lounge territory. I've been thinking of doing a Hannibal, like the TV show rewatch because I've always been mixed on it.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Me too. I haven't watched it since it was airing. I checked out, honestly. And I almost want to go back. Everyone's like, oh, my God, Hannibal. It's even better now that's on Netflix. Well, because I never got to three. I got through two, and I was like, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:54:15 And then I didn't continue. I never watched it, but the commercials look sexy. It's kind of a sexy show. It's sexy, but, like, weird, sexy. It might be my favorite show. I love that show. Favorite show? I love, love, love that show.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Have you seen like four shows? Yes, only four shows. It's this and the wire, the Sopranos, and the Simpsons, and that's it. Well, I mean, I can see it. Yeah, it's actually not bad, Chris. All right. It's cool that you've seen four shows.
Starting point is 01:54:48 The beef, Steve, with Hannibal that I had, was like the first season is way like Monster of the Week case-by-case kind of thing with like an overarching thing, like, hanging in the background. And then season two, it's just like, now we're just doing a singular story similarly to like what fringe did they just had to figure out what the fuck they were doing in that way and jellica did you do that fringe rewatch um i stopped i keep i'm not good with my rewatches lately me either actually partially because it's just like my work i have so much on my plate right now thankfully i'm like i'm really busy then like this week and next week but then i'm taking the third week of this month off completely so I'll have a break, which I'm really looking forward to. Hey, third week of October, that's a perfect time for Hannibal rewatch.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Just putting that out there. Sure. Yeah, and I'm trying to, like, rewatch a lot of horror movies I love and, like, watch some new ones and, you know, all that shit. I love this month. It's the best month. It's amazing. The air is crisp. It's great.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Great. At this point, like, yeah, that now Patrick is going around, fuck it everybody. He winds up going to go into a gross. grocery store. Oh my god. This scene is outrageous. This is the craziest thing in the world. He goes and like meanwhile, Mark Hellingberger's like, well, still
Starting point is 01:56:11 probably is a psychic connection to him, but we'd have to like amp up her alienness like 50%. They keep on cutting back to fucking Natasha has Eve like rubbing herself against the chair to like a Houston Astros game while
Starting point is 01:56:27 sweating a lot. Oh right. And like this is supposed to be like showing you the link that's coming between them. It also lets you know the time, you know, because it's game day, all right? Yeah, yeah. It just takes place on game day. There is, like, there's a dumb joke around there, too, because she is, she's getting horny when there's a baseball game on.
Starting point is 01:56:47 And I guess the link is like, when he is being sexually active, she can, like, sort of sense what's up? And there's some scientist or security guard that's like, what's she getting so horny for? It's just baseball. Yeah. Or what's she getting so? excited for. And I'm like, all right, let's just move on with the fucking baseball is boring commentary. I guess they spray, like they are radiator or whatever, and now she can fucking
Starting point is 01:57:12 warg into, that's a Game of Thrones reference for people listening five years in the fucking past. You know what? And for me doing this episode right now, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. So she can see through his eyes, because aliens can watch each other through their eyes. I don't know. But this also, watch her though. I mean, I guess he does see her but we don't necessarily see that perspective shot no you don't know you're totally right there's one part where she's like
Starting point is 01:57:39 oh he knows that I'm like spying on him or whatever and that's like the most that comes of that but so that's how they're like doing the like oh yeah this is where he is like she sees like some street signs and whatnot and then she's like oh he's in a grocery store but they're also putting her
Starting point is 01:57:55 like in it's like the machine from a minority report but it's very dry It's not wet, it's dry. They're basically microwaving her, sort of. Yeah, there's like these laser beams, right? Yeah, that is a hot lady. You know what, though?
Starting point is 01:58:13 Here's the thing. You're fucking injecting, like, radiation into an alien and whatnot. How about some protective gear on these human beings? Mark Helgenberger's, and they're in the fucking t-shirt and a lab coat. Like, you know, turn it on! Yeah, and she's, like, holding her hand. Yeah, I was like... Well, congratulations, you now have cancer, alien scientist.
Starting point is 01:58:31 This just doesn't seem right Like a lot You know I love movies like this With this fake bitch ass science I'm like I'm stupid but I can tell This is really dumb
Starting point is 01:58:42 Meanwhile Patrick is like Picking up some lady In a grocery store And this is such a move Him standing next to his own cereal box Dude totally This was a move indeed man
Starting point is 01:58:57 Like oh hey What oh that Oh I didn't know I was standing next to the cereal box with my face on it space flakes yeah want to know a secret they taste like shit anyway isn't that charming that lady eats that up he signs it for her i don't remember her name darlene and meanwhile he signs it for her and like i don't know if he's aware that the cops are coming or if he's just being a weirdo but he like abducts this woman in the middle of a grocery store but people are like national hero national you know what now you give it
Starting point is 01:59:31 him one, Mulligan. I just feel like someone would tackle this dude because this woman's like no, please God, no. She should have yelled fire, right? Yes, I guess so. I mean, this is a movie where the whole conceit is like
Starting point is 01:59:46 psychic aliens are fucking their way towards the destruction of Earth, right? And the most unbelievable part is that like there's someone screaming in a store and nobody, there's not a single other person in the store that's like, wait, What? And then, like, he drags her through, like, the bowels of this grocery store.
Starting point is 02:00:05 It looks like the set of Hostel 2 for some reason. And then they come out the other side of the parking lot where she's screaming again in a crowded parking lot. And there's not a single person that's like, hey, buddy. Like, you need somebody, like some guy that's like, what are you doing? And then he, like, aliens out on that person and kills them. Yeah, that would be cool as hell. Like, he'd smash or someone's head open. I mean, something.
Starting point is 02:00:27 But their discussion before that is, it suggests that he's going to be like, oh, let me carry your. your fucking grocery to your car and then I'll get you that way. It's just like all of a sudden he's like, never mind, just scream rape. Yeah, stop, stop freaking out, man. You have to have the cool, calm, collected nature of like a Buffalo bill. Yeah, you would think that like, after all this shit he's been doing, he would be more refined as a piece of shit, rapist monster dude. As a rapist alien serial killer, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:00 He should be swarver, right? Yeah, like, come on, man. Think about this a little better. And then, like, so, like, what's also uncomfortable about this whole sequence is, like, while she's screaming, like, her dress keeps flying up and you keep seeing her underwear. And I'm like, do you need this exactly? Because this is really giving me mixed. And of course he finds a van to drag her into. And it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 02:01:25 It's not his van? Is it his van or no? No, it's someone else's van. Oh, that's a risk, too. He is getting sloppy. It's very sloppy. But what's funny about it, I mean, obviously, this scenario is not funny, but what's funny is about it is when Michael Madsen shows up and they break into a van that's rocking.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Oh, right. Oh, it's another sex van. Oops. Sorry kids. Yeah, just teenagers having sex. Yeah. And they like bust the glass open and they're like, whoa, what is this? What's happening?
Starting point is 02:01:58 What is, Madsen has someone like, get, get a hotel room or something like that. Yeah, he does say something along both lines. And it's like Michael Madsen, he owns that van specifically so he doesn't have to rent hotel rooms. It's a sex van, duh. It's like all black. Hey, hey, neither you have alien cum, right? No, no, no, not you, not you? Okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah, I don't fuck around with that alien come anymore. That's just a side. character that knows about the deal. Meanwhile, so like, and the only reason that saves this woman is Sill or Eve now goes into his brain and
Starting point is 02:02:40 he sees where she is and he now realizes that his mission is to impregnate her. So he leaves this woman go and then like lets himself get caught by Madsen and the crew. Yes, exactly. And then this is, and I
Starting point is 02:02:56 don't do this in movies. often I just, you know, I will reserve my, you know, doubt and criticism or whatever else, like until the movie is over with, I'm rarely like, what are you doing kind of a thing. But this was a what are you doing situation because they fucking bring him right to the laboratory where she is. And I was like, this is just bad writing, right? There's no way after everything that we've been told from these characters
Starting point is 02:03:23 about like the safety protocols and it's like, you know, level four, whatever the fuck, government secret stuff, you would not just waltz this dude right in. Dr. Laura was worried about her seeing George Zunza. She was worried about the sexual fucking eruption
Starting point is 02:03:40 that would happen from seeing a glass eye to George Zunza. And yeah, this is going to be killing people. There's also a brief scene where he goes back, Patrick goes to this farmstead where he's keeping all the alien babies and he meets,
Starting point is 02:03:56 It's James Cromwell, who happens to be there while he doesn't meet him. He's his father. No, that's happening next because he gets to escape. Yes, okay, please. It's supposed to be the end of the thing. I've been drinking. That's all right. I want the audience to know.
Starting point is 02:04:13 I'm a little fucked up and I apologize for anything I say. Angelica's, we hate movies. We're all fucked up in some way. You're fucked up amongst friends. There we go. I love you guys. Yay. Remote
Starting point is 02:04:27 Interactions Yeah I mean But based on this middle part They meet each other Yeah Patrick escapes somehow He just beats up a bunch of
Starting point is 02:04:38 He literally just He runs away As the doors are closing He does a fucking Star Wars Like he squeezes right through Before it closes And it's a slow mo We have not talked enough
Starting point is 02:04:47 About how much slow motion There is in this fucking movie You know what Angelica That's how you get this movie To 93 minutes or whatever you just slows some of it down apparently Tribune Trivia I'm pretty sure It's the shortest species movie
Starting point is 02:05:03 That's why it's the best Yeah I actually really enjoyed this movie But yeah so he goes to the farms Like he powers his way out of the lab Because he knows he can't instantly have sex with Eve So he goes to the fucking farmstead or whatever These kids are stored in And the senator
Starting point is 02:05:21 Happens to be there and they have this conversation. Yeah, Rich McConnell. And what happens in that conversation? Let's see. Well, he just basically was like, oh, you know, you can get out of this, you know, you can, Will's take you to the Mayo Clinic,
Starting point is 02:05:41 the best doctors. The best doctor, think of your mother. Remember, I was, we were on these lands with your mother. It's like, okay. I think it might have been John Hopkins. And then that's where I was going. with this because he was right like don't bring him to the
Starting point is 02:05:57 lab where Eve is bring him to somewhere else exactly just another hospital or some shit and it yeah it's a weird thing where he's like and don't worry about it son no one's going to find you here this house is still registered in your dead mother's maiden name
Starting point is 02:06:13 A good thing no one can ever look that up yeah exactly no one would find that son of a public figure this guy's a celebrity I also have a couple slush funds in her name Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.
Starting point is 02:06:25 He gives him a big old fatherly hug, but oops, Patrick kills him pretty immediately. It's pretty good death for Cromwell here. He fucks his dad in the belly. It's not Patrick. It's the kids. The kids fuck. Oh, the kids.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Oh, the kids come from the other side. Yeah, the kids come from the other side and do it. He has an orgy with his dad, his great. The grandsons have an orgy with their grandfather? Yes, yes, they penetrate him many times. That's disgusting. Also, I don't know that that's correct, Chris. Yeah, because they turn and it's right behind and it's because they're all standing there, yes, but it does the very movie thing of like, oh, it's going to be okay, it's going to be okay, and he gives him a hug and then it's like, oh, and he gets him.
Starting point is 02:07:06 That's like when you hug someone with a bone or by mistake, right? Yeah, you don't want to do that. Then you got an eighth grade dance it. Stick that butt out. Okay, there's so much going on in this conversation. So much direction talk. Oh, my gosh. This is really species.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Like, for the ladies, guess what? like dudes, erections, like everything's a metaphor. Have fun. It is. Have fun indeed, yes. Yeah, so Cromwell drops from this movie, which is unfortunate. Because it's a great scene. He does get to face off with George Zunza at one point.
Starting point is 02:07:39 He definitely tells George Zunza to go fuck himself. It's great to go fuck himself. But then this is where we see the kids incubating in the basement. Because that's the whole thing from the first movie is like, okay, after like a week or so. So they get into like this weird cocoon state. And when they come out, they're an adult. We see that famously in the first movie with that poor woman train conductor who finds Sill in the fucking cocoon and gets murdered, which is awful.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Around here, they realize that this is why Michael T. Williamson doesn't get infected is because he's a carrier of sickle cell but doesn't have sickle cell. And it's as gross as it sounds. It's just like it's all this stuff. It's like, oh, if we could use your blood to poison it, blah, blah, blah. You know, we can infect the aliens with your blood. Your dirty, dirty blood, you black man. Like, it's just weird, right? To use sickle cell anemia specifically
Starting point is 02:08:36 is why it is so problematic. Like, just pick fucking anything. Like, you know what? He's got the fucking clap. That's why it didn't happen. Because their whole justification is like, oh, it will only, you know, get into a host body if there's no problems with like the, you know, human DNA or whatever.
Starting point is 02:08:56 This is a great point, Andrew. Just change it to the clap. Or if it was a sexually transmitted disease, the president of the United States go on the air and say, everyone must fuck. Everyone spread venereal disease to save the planet. Fuck to save the planet. Wow.
Starting point is 02:09:15 It's like it follows. Everybody has to go. Every has to do it. But yeah, so then like, you know, this is all going on. makes an escape from the facility and they shoot the shit out of her like fucking sunny Corleone she runs through this glass window and like I guarantee it's almost incidental that you see your underwear when it happens it's it's tidy whiteies like that are like very high cut and it's like again slow motion and her like sundress billows upward and like you see her panties
Starting point is 02:09:49 And it's like, oh, because it's not underwear in this movie. It's definitely panties. Oh, yes. Yeah. Absolutely. And it's a thing where, like, they shot it 15 times and, like, they kept not getting the panties. And they're like, no, no, no, we got to do it again. Now let's see what it would look like if a barrage of baseball is killed.
Starting point is 02:10:07 Dude, she does huck a baseball at one of the security guards. It is the funniest part of this movie. That lady just goes down. She pulls a, you know, the lever and the control. controls like the, you know, the security doors or some shit. And she runs out of this complex, which it's like the failings of the American military
Starting point is 02:10:27 here. It's outrageous. They shoot the shit out of her. And then she gets up immediately and all these dudes are around her and I'm like fire again. Fire again. Why didn't they fire? She just ran without a bra on. Where is
Starting point is 02:10:43 sports bra? Like that must be hurting because she has considerable tits. Yeah. Mm-hmm. We see them too. And I'm just like, you're not wearing any support? Wow. Well, I guess, you know, if she's stuck in that little, you know, laboratory apartment that they gave her, you know, she's just sit on the couch watching TV most of the day. Maybe she doesn't need the support in the day-to-day. That's true. That's just one thing I want to mention to people that I don't think we've said before is, um, while you don't see Natasha Hinstridge's tits to.
Starting point is 02:11:19 the very end. Throughout this movie, she's not wearing a bra, so you see lots of nipple against silk against various fabrics. So, like, that's what you did. She's got a bad haircut in this movie, a full-on bad haircut. It's like a flat sort of, I don't know, maybe that's just me. It's like a botched. It's like a botched Cameron Diaz haircut. Oh my God. I actually thought it looked okay. Okay. You know what I just realized is I wasn't looking at the hair. Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to the hair But I thought I was like I don't think it was styled well
Starting point is 02:11:54 But I thought the length was cute Gotcha I'll tell you something about this shootout It was nice to see squibs again Because they use a bunch of squibs on this lady Yeah, it's pretty great And then when she gets up and runs away She steals a Humvee and drives off
Starting point is 02:12:08 They borrow a line from Halloween here Kind of because it's like Who taught him how to drive? You know, Donald Pleasins yelling in that movie like it's Madsen who taught her how to drive? And I think it's Marg just goes, well her favorite show is the Dukes of Hazard
Starting point is 02:12:25 to which someone, maybe it's Madsen replies, fan fucking tastic. Like, okay. Is she an alcoholic too? Is she drinking all driving all the time? She loves Confederate flags on top of everything else. Great. Great.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Fan fucking tastic. Her favorite car is the generally. It's just so dumb. Just be like, I don't know, it's a hyper-intelligent alien. Who cares if it knows how to drive a car? I certainly don't need Dukes of Hazard jokes in this movie. They realize that they're going to weaponize Michael T. Williamson's blood, ew, and blah, blah, blah. This is when Michael T. Williams and also grabs a machete and is going to go back to Africa with him. But they wind up going to this facility and laying waste to these little kids. which rules. Not a facility. They're back at the farmhouse. Yeah, the farmhouse and it's like growth, moving
Starting point is 02:13:23 slick sacks of goop. Yeah, it's pretty great. It's a lot of great, like, visual, like actual practical effects stuff going on. There is a scene, I wanted to point out, again, to give props to the FX department,
Starting point is 02:13:39 where you see, like, what it looks like when one of the kids, like, goes into the pod, and it's like, Patrick, there's no dialogue exchange, but they're like looking at each other and then like all the tentacles come out of this kid. Do you see this like kid puppet like rise up into the rafters of this barn? It's all pretty great. And then it then also when it like cocoons itself, I think all of those effects actually look pretty good. The first time we get this image of this barn and all these goop sacks in this bar. I was really thinking of an old man come out, you killed my goop sacks. Oh my goop sacks. What did you do to me? My goop sacks. That was the good goop. I was fermenting that.
Starting point is 02:14:21 So Patrick and Eve meet up Tufok right here and like they turn into aliens. We have the famous species. Wait, wait. Andrew. I'm on hold. We finally see Pasha Hintrich's tits.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Yes. She slowly takes off her dress and it's like finally. At the very end of this movie after so much, I've gone through I mean that has it has to have been I'm going to guess at least
Starting point is 02:14:53 50% of the reason people were buying tickets to species too of course we're going to get more of the show as it were and the bummer is she's barely in the movie also we haven't really talked about that but she's not it's funny because the first movie
Starting point is 02:15:09 is so like you know self-serious yes but it's very much focused on her character and what it means to be a woman and sex and all that shit for her. But in this movie, she's, like, barely in it. And then, yeah, you don't get to see her tits until the end. We get a lot of other tits. You know, some are, you know, all tits are beautiful, in my opinion.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Sure, sure. But some tits are, you know, how you prefer over others. You know, I don't know. Most of the time she's pacing in this glass little room, and then she gets out and she shows her tits and her ass and then all of a sudden she's the species character again she's the alien character again so she's out she's done yeah now it's a puppet there's the payoff it's so weird but also
Starting point is 02:15:58 I need to say no Tasha Hinsridge maybe if you're listening I just want you to know your ass is also beautiful I know people probably talk about your tits so much but I was like wow her ass is really nice well good for her But this is another moment where it's like, okay, like she's stripping down. And then this dude has a shirt off and I'm like, where is the fucking dick, dude? Even a shadow of dick, even just like, you know, a silhouette maybe. You know, you don't even need to see like pubs and all that sort of shit.
Starting point is 02:16:33 But like something. Or just sci-fi it up. Like have a big fucking like tentacle cock come out and like wink at the camera with its one eye. Because I've heard nipples are fucking tentacles His cock is a weird tentacle And Lord knows what the testicles are up to Oh my God That's scary to think about
Starting point is 02:16:51 Oh, ooh, yeah Lord knows Well, that's what I That might be the problem is he might just have This guy specifically, this model Might just have an ugly dick That they couldn't work with Sure
Starting point is 02:17:02 Wow, I mean If it's not a good base Even for something to be sprung out of, you know Oh I mean, but what does What makes an ugly dick? I'm curious. Well, like, if they,
Starting point is 02:17:12 If it's like the end of the onion that you would usually cut off, if it looks like that. Yeah, you're right, dude, if it looks like that. If it looked like, I don't, those slippery water things that slipped out of your hand. Oh, yes. What were those toys? They were like, they were little like. Dildos? Yes, Eric, thank you.
Starting point is 02:17:37 It was like a flaccid dildo. They were filled with like sort of water. And they were supposed to slip out of your hand It was like a cylindrical water balloon I've never heard of this I honestly I feel like you guys are talking about I don't know some alien shit
Starting point is 02:17:52 I have never I have no idea what you're talking about It was you know what it was it was a garbage Like toy that you got at like a dollar store Or something like that You got at a dollar store I mean maybe they had different toys up north Because I'm from the south
Starting point is 02:18:06 I've never heard of that I have no idea what y'all would talk This was a Massachusetts toy for me. That's where I got it. Chris, I know exactly what you're talking about, and if we can find a picture of it, we'll send it to everybody. No, seriously, please do, because honestly, I feel like you're lying and making up to weird shit. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. I can assure you, I know what he's talking about. I don't know this. I grew up in the woods. We didn't have fucking fancy dick toys. You had a slinky once, but they straightened it. My point is, is that
Starting point is 02:18:35 it's a dense, lively, vast world of genitalia. It looks like all kinds of things. Some things aren't going to be camera ready. And if you can't build from it. Welcome back to the wild world of dicks. Hey, hey, guess what? You know what movie you guys should do sometime in the future? Doesn't have to be me. It doesn't have to be me.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Wild things. Oh, sure. Absolutely. That's true. Speaking of a movie that had the guts to have a fucking dick in it. Speaking of the movie that had the tracking all fucked up, that's a what a trouser snake. Yeah, I can't wait to play the VHS trailer game
Starting point is 02:19:13 wherever you find wild things Steve guarantee that tape is unwatchable at certain parts So they start to fucking Alien style Like you do Right, yeah It's like family style
Starting point is 02:19:25 There's a lot there There's a lot there, yeah And meanwhile this is when They're killing all the alien babies There's some more bad dialogue from Michael T. Williamson There's a weird moment in this basement Welcome, welcome to the maternity word from hell. Yep.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Oh, welcome to the maternity word. Beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat from hell. It's atrocious, dude. That line is atrocious in this movie. And then there's a way, right after that, Marg has an even worse thing. It is a line of dialogue for someone who comes into a 93-minute movie at minute 80.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Because she's just like looking at all these fucking sacks and whatnot. And she just goes, she goes, after, it's right after the From Hell line. She just goes, Patrick's offspring. And I was like, I know. I've been watching Species 2 this whole time. I know what the fucking sacks are. Two things, just for people who need details. If you really want to just see Natasha's tits, go to one hour, 19 minutes, 32 seconds.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Oh, great, great. Um, and the direct quote from Michael T. Williamson is, I'm about to get straight Kuta Kente on your ass. Oh, man. Yeah. I don't know. It's, it's just like, again, the body politics of these movies are so confusing because it's like you're talking weirdly about sleep. Like you're at least mentioning something that brings up slavery on one hand. And then you're also having like weird.
Starting point is 02:21:06 BDSM shit or like forced sexual politics because it's like there's this one moment where things get pretty ugly between Alien Patrick and Alien Eve and he like forces like one of his slimy tentacles into her mouth
Starting point is 02:21:23 and I wrote force deep throat in question that's what kills her that's the move that kills her that is a kind of cock so we have one thank you but it's from his mouth I think, but it's still... I don't think it's from...
Starting point is 02:21:40 Is it from his... Oh, you're right. It's his mouth. He splits into two and it becomes like a thing. It's a tongue dick. But the point still stands though because it's incredibly phallic
Starting point is 02:21:49 in nature. I thought the same thing I was like this is a deep throat scene and oh and now she's been killed from deep throat. And it's also like the puppetry like there's saliva on it but it retracts and I'm like
Starting point is 02:22:00 what the fuck? I'm like someone, is really getting off on this. shit. Have you ever watched interviews with him? No. He's weird. He's fucking, he's, you know, there's like perverts and then there are perverts. Oh, sure. Yeah, the real, like, the full-time professional perverts. I'm like a part-time pervert, but like, some people are dedicated. Brian DeFama, pervert. That's a full-time pervert. That's a full-time pervert. Absolutely. Do we mention the nipple tentacles? They start lassoing around
Starting point is 02:22:34 them? That starts happening right here. Yeah. Get those nipple tentacles. They're all like these sloppy, like alien monster animals having this wet sex. Yeah. It does what the first movie like sort of hinted at, but now it's like here's two of this same species that are they're going to decide to do it at the same time. So you're finally seeing what everybody argued was missing from species one. This Patrick Ross guy turns into like Gary Oldman at the end. kind of lost in space, this guy, bug thing.
Starting point is 02:23:08 When came out the same year at species. Oh, shit. Both erotic movies. Yeah, he's like walking on all fours and stuff. And he's fiery and like huge and like his dog keeps like coming off of the main face and his face sometimes splits. And he's covered in stickiness. Doesn't he have dreads?
Starting point is 02:23:29 Yes. And he does have alien. So he looks like Gary Oldman in true romance more. Oh my gosh. you're right true romance this is when also part of the species verse by the way true romance when Sylda when Eve dies
Starting point is 02:23:45 Mark Hollingerberg is like you son of a bitch and she's like consoling this dead alien and it's weird because you've been trying to kill this dead alien for years dude she lays down crying next to this dead alien and I was like get right out of here with that Eve helped them by getting so horny that horns pop out of her back and stab I have to say that was pretty fucking sweet
Starting point is 02:24:04 Eve was on, like, deep cover the whole time. Yeah. And, and then it's amazing. So Michael T. Williamson's down. He's like, my blood, you got to use my blood. So Madsen grabs this pitchfork and, like, destroys his leg. Unreal, just starts stabbing him in the fucking leg. And then this dude is like, good, this has poison blood on it.
Starting point is 02:24:24 Let me huck it at the alien. This guy isn't walking right ever again. You fucking destroy this man's leg. I'm like, can you just do, like, a low cut? the machete or a knife A younger prick, please. Cover some shit with blood and like throw it. Like, there has
Starting point is 02:24:42 to be a better way than like stabbing him with a pitchfork in his fucking leg. He's never going to walk again properly. Hey, hey, press. That pitchfork is a little rusty. Could you maybe? Ah! And he gets it in there, man. He definitely does. And what's so dumb is like, I'm
Starting point is 02:24:58 sorry, you make this big of a deal about his character having this fucking machete. like that dude better get to use that by the end of this movie which does not happen no like you can't just tell me there's a machete in this movie and he doesn't fucking cut anything come on but all of a sudden press is this fucking
Starting point is 02:25:17 Olympic level athlete where he nails the alien like I thought he was gonna ram him through which would be kind of cool like run and grab that's what you do in the pitchwork he just chucks it right in his back perfect bullseye okay I mean that had all the poisonous blood on it that's your best weapon why throw it?
Starting point is 02:25:35 Yeah, you want to make sure you get it. Because I know I'm that fucking good. Yeah, so it's like, and then Patrick Alien like falls down, but he also falls down into a pool of blood that I guess is Dennis' less than Michael T. Williamson's blood. And it's like, it's really funny to watch this puppet sort of like fizzle out.
Starting point is 02:25:58 I don't know. It's like the end of Gremlin. It's like the end of Gremlin's two, New York. New York. Dude, this Patrick Aliens just started singing Frank Sinatra. This would be a fucking five-star film. Don't even worry about it. Well, we want what you want. Sex to the point of
Starting point is 02:26:15 extinction. Yeah, so he's dead. Eve is dead. There's more ridiculous shit with like, George Zunza makes something about like, all right, we're not going to bother him now. We'll wait till the end of the movie to come back. And like then all the fucking army and whatever
Starting point is 02:26:32 comes back. And, So, like, you see McHelty Williams and being fucking, like, dragged off in a helicopter to go get some treatment and there's, like, a sexy lady who's, like, in the helicopter with him and he, like, cannot stop talking about fucking again. Yeah. I got a sexually harassing.
Starting point is 02:26:48 He's like, hey, hey, hey, hey. You see, I have a hard on, I have a hard on. We have a hard on. Let's deal with his heart on. It's like, dude, calm the fuck down. He assumes the nurse that gets him is going to have sex with him. I apologize for cutting you off. Eric.
Starting point is 02:27:04 No. No problem. Well, actually, why don't we try and save your leg first, okay? I don't want to have to amputate. I'll still stay sexy. No, no, no, no. I need mouth to cock, a medium. Let's wait for oral sex until we're sure we're out of the woods of you dying from blood loss.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Okay, but can we talk about booty first? No, we shan. Can we please talk about booty? We shan. You're saying booty so much of this movie. It's also weird that like when he gets, he's like on a stretcher, in this helicopter, but, like, he lays his head in this woman's lap?
Starting point is 02:27:38 Yes. And I was like, I don't know, you're on a stretcher, man. Just get laid out on the stretcher. Figure out the fucking later. And Madsen basically goes about, you're going to be fine. See you later, pal, or whatever. And it's like, hey, dude, wait. Excellent fucking Casablanca ending, dude.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Just like, all right, whatever. He hopes there's no. He belches and then says to himself another press Linux adventure. I hope there's no bad blood between us. And there's not even like a Madsen, Helgenberger Lassie and like, can I buy you a breakfast? No, they're just out of the movie. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:28:15 It's kind of a weird, like, he's smoking. And first of all, this is a horseshit thing. Like, he lights up outside this building and she's like, when did you start smoking? And he goes, today. And I was like, yeah, okay. You've been smoking since you were seven years old, Michael Manson. I think they couldn't afford any more film. So they were like, end the movie.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Yeah. And so she's like, oh, give me one of those. That's the end of them. We cut this Eve, who's dead in an ambulance, in an ambulance. Right. Yes. Where the fuck does this cat come from? I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 02:28:47 Where is this kid supposed to be? I was confused about that, too. Yep. Because this kid, is she's dead. A cat jumps on her stomach, and then we meows jumps away. It's a coma cat. We see a creepy kid in a corner, and then you see her belly about to burst, and then we cut to black.
Starting point is 02:29:04 And you hear her screen. But there's so much going on there that I'm like, what, what, who, when, why? First question. First question, is that kid in the ambulance with her? I think so. 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 02:29:14 That's the only thing that makes sense. Yeah. See, I originally thought maybe it was a flashback to the barn and like one of them wasn't burned alive. But I guess I looked on two different, I look on Wikipedia and I looked on the species fan Wikipedia. Sure. Both say that the kid was.
Starting point is 02:29:33 Sane website. Both say that they were in the ambulance. Okay. Yeah, and like it just the movie, it cuts to black and you hear her screaming and like that's the end of it. I want the cat cut of how that cat, like a whole movie of how that cat came
Starting point is 02:29:49 to be in that ambulance to jump on. Yeah, I was so confused, but also very cute cat. Adorable cat. So cat's eye but taking place instead of Stephen King verse, it takes place in the species verse. Oh, there you go. My question is, is that the CIA's ambulance?
Starting point is 02:30:06 Because that's the only place that, I mean, like, who else is having that ambulance? It's not, it's not go to Mercy Hospital. No, it's going to a black side. If that's the CIA's ambulance, maybe that cat is a CIA agent. You know, maybe it's another alien. Maybe he works for the cat intelligence agency. One of them is also, like, Deep Space 9, and it's like, that's Odo. And he's just like, somehow, like, in 1998.
Starting point is 02:30:33 and honey down like other aliens. I found you, Quark. Oh, I see you, Quark, pretending to be a dead, sexy alien. Well, I'll be a cat. Meow, meow. I can never get a human face right, but don't worry about it, Quark.
Starting point is 02:30:50 A cat I can do perfectly. I bet Oda would be a very cute cat. An adorable cat. I watched this commercial that taught me how to be a cat, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. I think Odo would be the grumpy cat of the future. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:31:09 Because he's always grumpy that Odo. Always upset. And that is the end of the movie. As Angelica sort of hinted at, the third movie does continue this story because the alien in that movie is the offspring that we see being birthed here. Species 3 was a movie we watched on mute
Starting point is 02:31:30 at a bar in Austin one time and I think we then we watched the DVD menu longer than the actual film man I wish I was there I flew in the next morning I think so I missed it was a talk of the town for a couple days yeah you guys wouldn't shut the fuck up about it
Starting point is 02:31:46 now it's on an episode Eric we saw Species 3 on DVD in public I had so much FOMO but that is the end of this movie and we will start with our esteemed guest and friend for the evening Angelica, would you recommend Species 2 to the public?
Starting point is 02:32:03 You know what? It's spooky bitch season. Do it. Watch the fucking movie. Have fun. Get like super high and drink a lot of Prosecco, which is what I did tonight. Yeah, ride that wave. Have some fun.
Starting point is 02:32:20 Like, you know, maybe in another year I wouldn't have recommended it. But I think it's kind of a fun watch. And we need some shit that you can. can just watch and turn your brain off and just like kind of enjoy it on a ridiculous like purely visceral level. Totally. Absolutely. Absolutely agree with that. Steve Sadek?
Starting point is 02:32:42 Yeah, Stronger recommend here. It's a one timer I feel like. I've only seen this movie once. My jaw was on the floor the entire time and I was like, wow, I never want to see that again. But it was super fun. It's bonkers. It's definitely better than the first one. It moves a lot fast than the first one.
Starting point is 02:32:59 I just want the rat I want to know what happened to the rat I want to see what happened to him yeah I'm a little sad about that could have been a VHS bonus feature Eric Siska I agree with both of those takes I mean it's it moves well
Starting point is 02:33:14 I liked it more than the first one because it was it didn't slow down the works trying to become a better movie with the Ben you know Ben's Kingsley you know oh wow I completely forgot he's in the first movie at all
Starting point is 02:33:27 yeah so so Alfred Molina. It moves fast. It's ridiculous. So I do say check it out. Christopher Cabin. Oh, yeah. Recommend big time.
Starting point is 02:33:38 It moves really quick. It never lags. It's actually gory. Like, I was thinking about this. Like, I don't know many movies that are this gory and are held together, really. But yeah, it's still shocking to this day. And I've seen it like three times now. Did you call out holy shit again when you're,
Starting point is 02:33:58 were watching it today? I had to, like, hold it back. I was like, oh, more of a, yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, look at the state of the world. Yeah, I don't have a holy shit in me anymore. But yeah, I definitely think people should watch it.
Starting point is 02:34:14 It's a fun sequel. I agree. We're five for five here. I totally agree. I think, Steve, to your point, it is definitely a nice place to visit, but I don't want to die here. Like, I'm going to watch this movie one time. and it's you know if I stumble across it again on my travels
Starting point is 02:34:31 I don't know okay but like if you intentionally Angelica like you said too like intentionally sit down get yourself in that right head space with a fucking delicious spliff and some booze like and you know if you can if you have like you know a partner it's definitely a movie to it's fun to watch with other people too definitely recommend it but it is like a I don't want to go back to that you know yes it's funny because I think I've so I watched it
Starting point is 02:34:57 last year because time is a flat circle. I think the first time it's on we hate movies was just last year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember you were, you I was afraid you were overselling it when I was about to watch it. Because on the first time, we're like, oh, this happens, it's crazy, it's crazy
Starting point is 02:35:13 and I was like, well, see when we get there. And I'm like, you did not oversell it. Okay, good. I was worried about that. No, not at all. You actually, but you positioned it quite perfectly in our first conversation. Yeah, no doubt about it. But one thing I want to say just side note for people because of this real world we're living in we did the cruel
Starting point is 02:35:33 intentions episode earlier this year right or am i like yes yeah it feels like february or something feels like five years ago yeah exactly i'm like i feel like i've aged five years i've noticed so many more gray hairs i don't like that and it's it's wild too because now that i'm thinking about it you're totally right angelica's and now i remember we went out for drinks after we did cruel intentions. We were all like wearing coats and whatnot. It was totally cold outside. I remember smoking a cigarette, which I rarely do.
Starting point is 02:36:03 But man, if someone offers me a cigarette after I've had a few drinks, I'm like, yeah, I'll take a cigarette. That's where I get it too. Man, yeah, to be outside Lofi in Williamsburg, Brooklyn right now, instead of doing this remotely, would have been rad. But all the same,
Starting point is 02:36:19 it was a treat having you back on We Hate Movies, as always. And, you know, feel free around. Anything you want to plug anything you got coming up that you want to give a shout out to this will air next week so you know what okay fuck yeah i'm going to plug a few things do it up um so i may have something in an a 24 coffee table book i'm not going to tell you for one movie okay and i'm just going to say that's on my plate i have a profile um coming up that will be running in a magazine in December, January.
Starting point is 02:37:00 It's not Vulture. I won't tell you who I'm profiling because I'm, because I have to interview them tomorrow. It's such a quick turnaround. Oh, yeah, I can't wait to talk to you tomorrow. Yeah, I can't wait to, like, profile Eric, sister for Oprah magazine. I think it's going to be amazing. I mean, it's big for both of us.
Starting point is 02:37:20 His tiles are amazing. I think it's true. I've never done a cover profile. before and it's like wow i get it right about this white man um and then for vulture stuff i oh man i'm reviewing some shit i don't like um you still doing that lovecraft country reviews okay so i'm doing actually a bigger piece on on the state of black horror and my opinions on it that's awesome which will not be nice to a lot of things including lovecraft country which i don't think is good.
Starting point is 02:37:55 That I know. I know that from knowing you, yeah. I jumped ship after like two episodes. I still haven't given it a shot. I mean, I heard your opinion. You're not selling it to me so then I'm like, ah, maybe I won't. Angelica, I heard your opinion and I stayed
Starting point is 02:38:10 away. Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's not worth watching in the grand scheme of things. There's so much to watch. If you want to watch an HBO thing, watch the third day would you laugh? Like, I'm enjoying that. I saw the first episode at Toronto and enjoyed it. And I haven't caught back up with the rest of it yet. I think a lot
Starting point is 02:38:28 people still haven't seen I May Destroy You too. Yeah, and that's amazing. I had such a great time writing about that. I did the review for Vulture and then I did a piece on the finale. I'm trying to think of other things I have coming up. I have some reviews coming up. The The Haunting of Blind Manor review will be coming up. I'm reviewing the new Rebecca and also writing a really big piece on the original Rebecca and you will see me archive diving
Starting point is 02:38:57 because that's what I love to do. That's awesome. It's for like classic Hollywood fan magazines and shit like that. There's some really fun archives you can dive into. And then I'll be doing something for Criterion that I'm excited about. Yeah, I have a shit ton on my plate
Starting point is 02:39:15 right now. You weren't fucking around. You're totally busy. I don't know This October is really good for me I'm really excited about everything I'm working on and I hope people enjoy reading the stuff I put out
Starting point is 02:39:30 and also I'll be putting out my tiny letter amongst all of that so I don't know it's a good month for me creatively I'm really excited awesome that's awesome we are excited for you we're excited to read all of this and I'm I am legit curious about a lot of shit
Starting point is 02:39:47 you just tease so we're going to have to look forward to your work and of course look forward to whenever the hell you want to come back on next which is always open invitation whenever you want to come on we hate movies we are glad to have you and that's going to do it for species too from 1998 directed by peter meadak as always here on we hate movies you can get more content if you head over to patreon.com slash we hate movies we are in the middle of our spook tukular which means that the we love movies episode for this month is texas chainsaw massacre part two uh that's gonna be a lot of fucking fun we have the commentary coming up, probably closer to Halloween, Evil Dead Tumintary.
Starting point is 02:40:23 That's coming out, our sinkable commentaries. Eric Siska, what do we got over on the old Glebe Glossary? Oh, well, we're, we kind of, I kind of run the guys through the Death Watch Mandalorians. The Mandalorians that saved Din Jarin in the Mandalorian season one. Give people some context and background if you didn't watch the Clone Wars cartoon because it sucked. I totally understand. So check out the Gleep Glossary for some kind of. context. And that just
Starting point is 02:40:51 does remind me, though, to our Patreon subscribers, we will be bringing back the Mandalorian half hour when Mando's season two kicks in. So that's going to be a look for that in early November. And then as always, here on Wee Hey Movies, the show rose on. Next Tuesday, Steve Sadek, the spooketucular
Starting point is 02:41:08 continues. What are we talking about next week? Wishmaster 2, evil never dies. Am I remembering right? Because I haven't seen it. This is the one you guys said, the mafia is involved. The mafia prison is involved. I believe the mafia is involved. It's a real fucking
Starting point is 02:41:25 treat, dude. It's great. Have fun. Oh my God. I've seen this movie more than I care to admit. Wow. You put too much onions in the curse. You put too much onions in the curse. So until next week, where we are talking about Wishmaster 2, Evil Never
Starting point is 02:41:41 Dies. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Angelica J. Bastian. Take it easy. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a dash on could scare.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Sometimes, that is matter. That is matter. Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment. They're coming to get you. They're coming to get you, Barbara. You're sick for the foxy.
Starting point is 02:42:25 She's one too many. Now, sit, don't you blame the movies. Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos for creatives. What's the fucking news? You're in the bag. What an excellent day for an accident. That was a hit.
Starting point is 02:42:46 Gamm podcast.

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