We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 510 - Wishmaster 2: Evil Never Dies

Episode Date: October 20, 2020

On this week's Spook2cular episode, the gang chats about the outrageously fun sequel, Wishmaster 2: Evil Never Dies! How awesome is Andrew Divoff in this role? Why did the Djinn need an office at the ...casino? And was this priest character really necessary for the whole film? PLUS: The Djinn crucifies Brett Favre in a Jets jersey! Wishmaster 2: Evil Never Dies stars Andrew Divoff, Holly Fields, Chris Weber, Vyto Ruginis, Paul Johansson, Tommy 'Tiny' Lister, and Robert LaSardo; directed by Jack Sholder. WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 on this week's episode evil never dies it's wishmaster two evil never dies i'm andrew jupin stephen sadek never dies wow that's uh jesus um i'm eric ciska chris cab gin and we hate movies You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a touch on. I'm going to scare them. Sometimes, dead is better. That is better.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Zombies have entered the building. They're at the door. They're coming in. They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment. They're coming to get you, Barbara. You're sick, fucks. You've seen one too many.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Now, sit! Don't you blame the movie. Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos. More creative. What's a fucking love? An excellent day for an excellent day for an exorcism. Hello everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in as always. This is week three of the 2020 Halloween spook tucular. We're talking Wishmaster 2, Colin, Evil Never Dies, from 1999 directed. by Jack Shalder, director of some interesting projects here, fellas. Oh, yeah. Nightmare and Umstreet 2, Freddy's Revenge.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Not bad. The failed pilot slash TV movie Generation X. A single episode of, this was news to me, a live action Mortal Kombat television series. Sounds right to me. And also the motion picture beeper starring Harvey Keitel and Joey Lauren Adams,
Starting point is 00:01:56 that, you guessed it, is all about trying to read some dude's page. His first movie is also really good called Alone in the Dark with Donald Pleasant. Ooh, I wouldn't want to be alone in the dark with him. I think Jack Palance, Martin Landau. Yeah, I was looking at it. It sounds really cool. It's really, really creepy.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Well, Steve, I mean, you haven't seen this yet? I mean, you're an immortal, apparently. You've never died. Well, no, I haven't died yet, so I just assume I never will. Excellent. The way, the way I've been eating. So it's like if I didn't die yet, also, by the way. No, Bell didn't kill me yet.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Ooh, that is wishful thinking. Jack Schilder should be said directed the great movie The Hidden, which rules the fucking school. Oh, yeah, it's a good one. That movie is bonkers. That's Kyle McLaughlin and Sheriff Harry S. Truman as well. Yep. Yeah, I was. Michael Antkeen, I believe.
Starting point is 00:02:51 No, it's not Michael Onkeen. It's some other guy. It's the guy. It's the dude who's fooling around with Catherine Zeta Jones in. A previous episode, The Terminal. Michael Laurent or whatever his name is. Oh, wow. The airline pilot.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I didn't think he was in any other movies. He is. Yeah, I mean, he is a real hunk, though. I mean, that guy. But that movie is, like, fucking nuts from the jump. And this movie has a little bit of that. That's why it makes me very interested in. And also, obviously, A Nightmare 2 rules the school as well.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And that makes me interested in this alone in the dark. Yeah, I'm going to have to see that alone in the dark. so this movie it was first time around for me we covered Wishmaster was it just last Spooktacular when did we do that episode? I've lost all sense of time
Starting point is 00:03:39 I don't know when this happened I don't know when anything's happened anymore yesterday was the French Revolution right? What I love about it was 2018 I had to Google our own podcast well there you go well you know we've been doing this a while man it all starts fucking running together you know what
Starting point is 00:03:57 saying um this uh this sequel uh does not do a surpass the original but i did have a lot of fun with it uh and this was i feel a toss up between either steve or chris cabin as far as who had who was pushing for this one the most i think it was chris cabin i had seen it i think because i had seen it when we did the first one got and i specifically pointed out this opening which is incredible like I mean literally like it's this and once upon a time in America as far as like best
Starting point is 00:04:33 openings we're talking about the phone and the tracking shot and this fucking abomination well this fucking museum death squad I don't understand where like I've been to the Met Museum quite a few times actually as a thing about this today I miss
Starting point is 00:04:49 museums in a big bad way I don't remember ever seeing those guys that tell you to get away from the paintings ever having ever being strapped no no those like 60 year old retirees are not strapping pack and heat here i don't know what's got you know we don't know this takes place in los angeles like who knows what you know maybe this is like lackma or maybe it's the getty if it was the getty i could see i mean i've been to the getty i didn't see any firearms but you know these dudes could be like back in a surveillance room or somewhere it is after dark you know so maybe the security guards
Starting point is 00:05:22 get tossed a bunch of guns when they the last customer leaves you know that's true but this i i don't think it's like i i think it's a much lesser museum like this is like the la hoya center for the arts maybe how could you how could you how could you say it's a lesser museum they've got a statue of uh let me check my notes of aurora mazda oh of course oh aurora mazda of course i mean these are ancient figures you know these are like thankfully isis didn't destroy them and we got them, and they're going to be on display. And some of them may or may not contain cursed jewels containing an evil gin. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But the space in which this museum is in looks like one of those rare two-story Chipotle's. It's not like, it's not fancy. It doesn't look like anybody thought about the placement. I don't even know who the fence is who's going to take this from that. That's my question. It doesn't, I'm not sure. Look, you never hear about the robbery aside from, oh, my God, I killed that security guard. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:21 My boyfriend's dead, which will get. into all that but it's never like crazy larry wants his goods like you can't like it this seems like everybody got high for a weekend and it was just like i don't know you want to go around the museum man just go and just pick it up we'll make it work you're right if they if they actually established like there was a head of a criminal enterprise or like some really uh like art aficionado psycho that was at the top of the chain and then a wish master could eventually get there and make him a work of art i love it oh shit i mean I will say this.
Starting point is 00:06:53 My whole thing was, when this was starting, I was like, I was reminded kind of of the team that you have of super robbers in Dracula 2000. And I was like, oh, neat. This movie is starting out with like super robbers of some kind. Ooh, super art robbers, especially interesting. And then like their whole plan goes tits up
Starting point is 00:07:13 in like the first 15 seconds. And I was like, no, no, no. These are just a bunch of fucking rephratics or some shit looking for a score so they can get a fix down, And this, I'm telling you, this museum is like a place where you would see like the opening of Jim Belushi portraits or something like that. Like it could be Chris like the the weird storage area certain museums have in between exhibits. Sure. That's where you, you know, you don't have, you're going to get gins throughout the ages in the fall.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So you have the gin statue here now kind of cool at its heels. Wasn't it, um, thinking of another horror movie we covered, I think outside of this spectacular season? in. There's a similar like part of this museum is down under construction in the film Valentine. Yeah. Not like a museum, but it's like an art gallery and then they're like, here's this spooky scene in the storage area.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's like in the fire stairs in the back I think is what happens in Valentine. There's some sort of like elevator also back there but not in this movie. These robbers like immediately this thing goes totally crazy. Um, it's, what's funny though, and this proves I think what amateur hour situation is you're dealing with here. Uh, like the robbery is going, okay. Like they have, uh, like a box cutter. They're cutting the canvases out of the frames. They're not trying to take the frames off the wall, you know, to, for, for chance of setting the alarm off or whatever. And then out of nowhere, this fucking idiot is just like, let's smash this glass case. And then the alarm goes off like, what were you thinking? Is the art related to Jins at all?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Is there any connection to that? One was like, none of it looked like established stuff. No. One was just like, it was like a lady and landscape kind of a thing. Right. You know, there could have been a gin in the background, I'm not sure. Oh, yeah, I need to rewatch it immediately to check. But I would guess these, these pieces of art are not worth munch as an Edward.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Wow. That's a real stink boy. Yeah, they're refueled to get to that joke. I don't, that's why I don't buy the background thing is because that painting is hanging. Yeah, that's a good point. And, like, there's no alarm when he's cutting this thing open. It's only when you smash the case with the pretty fucking jewel thing in it,
Starting point is 00:09:37 that all of a sudden, it's surprise, surprise, these idiots didn't case the place. It's easier to rob a bank than it is to rob an art museum, for sure. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it just, and it's hard to rob a bank. But at least at the end, you have money. and you can be like, I'm going to use these money for other things. And that's why I think it would have made sense in the screenplay
Starting point is 00:09:56 like later on we meet like the Russian mafia. And I feel like if the Russian mafia like top dog was this dude who is also like a total art enthusiast and like they are who you know these idiots were working for
Starting point is 00:10:12 and then once this the protagonist gets wrapped back up with the Russian mafia it would sort of feel like it was kind of a full circle thing. I just don't like also like on top of everything else like when you're this woman Morgana who's the protagonist of the movie
Starting point is 00:10:28 like never really talks at all about like what the criminal life is that she's involved with or whatever like you don't think that she's like some master cat burglar or anything or that this is her business it feels like it's a one time deal they would do it two all weekend and all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:10:44 it's time to rob the art museum psyching themselves into it dude one fucking snort at a time It was just like either that, we're either going to play Mario All-Stars one more time, or we're going to go and rob the art museum. We're going to run out of Toot soon, man. You want to be old toot it out? That's what it was, Cap. But I think it was like, fuck, the supply's getting low and we're broke because we're just like tweakers sitting around.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah, we better go rob this art gallery. What if I remember that like their stepfather liked going to the art, like going to the museum or something? And they're like, yeah, we should rob a museum. Yeah, my stupid stepfather, Jeff, took me to this art gallery one time. Let's rob it. Maybe they're trying to sell the paintings to Jeff the stepfather there. How much are you going to give me for this hopper, man? You said you liked it.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You said you liked it. Come on, man. I just need like 50 bucks for this Edward Hopper painting, man. Come on. It's got to be worth a hot meal and a bunch of. crank I um yeah so they're doing this they get busted not busted
Starting point is 00:11:55 but security guard comes out and says hey says freeze and just immediately starts firing on these people dude it turns into reservoir dogs for a quick second in this movie everybody's getting fucking blown away left and right security guards burglars alike
Starting point is 00:12:09 you're not a doctor but do you wish to be one you're going to be okay oh Mr. Horan you just have to sing the fucking song. Do you know why you came here tonight? Have you listened to K. Billy's Super Sounds of the 70s? Do you wish to meet Stephen Wright?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Oh, you'll be stuck in the middle with me all right. Yeah, so this all, you know, this all thing goes down. One dude gets killed immediately. You don't see his mask come off. Apparently, the woman who is the star of this movie who plays Morgana. I just want to get her name here really quick. Holly Fields was dating Corey Haim at the time.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And Corey Haim is uncredited as one of these robbers who never takes his mask off. Hold on a second. Is this a documentary and they just filmed them like robin an art gallery? And it was like, okay, put it in Wishmaster too. So he's apparently in this movie. And then this other guy who gets blown away.
Starting point is 00:13:17 is Chris, right? The character's name, I think. Chris is the character's name. He kind of looks like fucking Tom DeLong from Blink 182. This dude is getting shot to shit by this other security guard. And then like Morgana takes this guy's gun and murders this security guard, which is a big plot point in the movie
Starting point is 00:13:33 sort of. Very important. She finds the Jewel stashes it inside of her shirt. She gets shot at by this fucking, by this fucking Bronson-esque security guard and the gem cracks in half. And it's her life basically right and so like in the in the kerfuffle here we go back to the
Starting point is 00:13:53 the gem and it starts like shooting out the thing type arms here it's like it's very species very species very uh the fun guy from super mario brothers yes it's like a fleshy goo it like shoots a rope on the wall and then it starts like birthing a baby out of it basically it's a baby gin, it's hilarious, it's the gin's face, and we saw a little bit as in the first movie, like all the weird shit that's going on inside of his jewel, but it is kind of hilarious to see this
Starting point is 00:14:24 big head gin being like hello. Dude, it is so fucking funny, and when he's stuck in the wall still, like, what I was thinking of pinhead in the third Hellraiser movie, he stuck in that statue for a little bit? Yes. Because like the
Starting point is 00:14:40 Jin's face is like still stuck in the wall, and it's like kind of a puppet, kind of not, parts. There's all this prosthetic over him. And he's just trying to talk and he's like, Eric, I can help you. And I was like, dude, why don't you get done with the shunting first? And then we'll fucking figure it out. I love when he's just like a little head with little claw arms rolling around on the floor. This is not the dude I'm going to make a deal with. Like, dude, you know what? I need, I need like a full body in a nice suit. Maybe I'll be like, ooh, maybe this is a nice gin to deal with. I would think I'm dead. And that's the devil.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It needs to be said that there is an aerial shot, but between when he's at, adjust the wall, and is the two-leg guy, where it literally looks like he's being shat out of the wall. Yes. Like he's pushing himself out of the wall like a shit. And then he's a little two-army guy who's like, Eddie. Yeah, yeah. It's like Ace Ventura when nature calls. Yes, it's coming out of the fake rhino's asshole. And he's just like, I can help you.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And the greatest line in this movie, maybe, is, like, I can help you. And he goes, fuck off. I'm with you, man. Like, you know what, dude, I'm not, like, I've gotten this far in my life without selling my soul to the devil. I'm about to die. I'm probably going to hell anyway if hell exists. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Let's not make it any easier on anybody. But also, this thing at this point, like, doesn't really look like the gin. It looks like crang. So, like, I don't know that I would think the devil right away. I'd be like, what is this alien creature? offering to help me out here. But can I ask, what are you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Is that a question that is in the Q&A section of right now? Do you have any like identification? Oh, I can provide identification if you wish it. Tell me straight out, buddy. Hell or space? Which one is it? Just tell me which one it is. A little from color of me and a little from color being.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Okay, you know what? Just kill me then. I'm from space hell sort of like event horizon. Oh, fantastic. That's great. That's good to know. We should say this is the great Andrew Devoff. Amazing. Hell yeah. He's on fire in this movie. I am sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Dude, that's incredible. The first movie he's great in, but I feel like there's less of him in it. This one's like, he's above the credits in this one. It's like Andrew Devoff, Wishmaster 2 Evil Never Dies. And I'm like, yes, yes, he's just a thousand times. Yeah, walking around with that weird smile looking at people. And I'm like eating my popcorn and going, yes. He's having an absolute fucking blast in this.
Starting point is 00:17:13 movie. Him and Jack Shoulder must have like a, is it shoulder or Shold? I've been calling it a shoulder, but it's spelled it's it's Shoulder without the U, so I said Shalder, I think in the intro, I don't know. So Divoff and Sholder should, they
Starting point is 00:17:29 have like a Robin Williams, Chris Columbus relationship. Just go for it. Whatever you want to do, man, just go for it. Take a while if you want to, but really just go, RIF, go do it. I kind of want to rewatch this movie like immediately. only because I read on the IMDB
Starting point is 00:17:45 that if you watch the scenes, especially when he's in human form, he doesn't blink. I read the trivia for this movie before I watched it and I was keeping an eye out for that and I think it's accurate. That's insane. Yeah. It's pretty crazy because he has a ton
Starting point is 00:18:01 of screen time and that's like an intentional thing that he kept up with which fucking rules. But the thing that I was questioning about because I'm right here just like the first movie he's not playing the gin in the gin makeup Oh am I wrong
Starting point is 00:18:15 I always thought he was maybe he's not Oh really Is there another actor credited there See that's the thing There's not like I was looking at the IMDB page There's not another actor credited It just says Demerhurst or whatever The last name of the human form
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yes and I thought that in The first movie it was played by a different person I mean it I wish in the page for Wishmaster 1 He is credited as the gin but he does he do but he does the voice for sure right oh for sure it's the same voice the whole definitely the voice for because yeah because his eyes actually don't look the same that's the thing that got me Kevin is the eyes look totally different but I can't find anything one way or the
Starting point is 00:18:55 other I we actually had several gin actors we had to tell them out in St. Alameda you know the ground is real soft out there well the thing is it's very difficult um a jim Jinn can actually only work three hours at a time. So you really want to get Jim twins or gin triplets in movies. Damn gin union contracts. We decided to turn the Olson twins into Jins. The Olsen Jins. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And they got Heath Ledger, right? They got him, dude. Oh, do you wish to have a good time? Oh, you're tired, are you? You'd like to sleep. I don't really want to play the Joker. Oh, my God. I think, though, Steve, to your point about the blinking,
Starting point is 00:19:48 it's referring to when you're just looking at Andrew Divoff. Yes. So whether or not he's in the gin outfit or not, I think it's that when he's just the person, when he's Damaris. Oh, you're very proud of your Joker performance. Would you like people to remember it forever? Would you like to? No.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I don't know why the gin would even ask this of someone, but I was going to say, oh, you want to win a posthumous award to you. I mean, I think, I'll take it. Without, unless you don't know what posthumous means, don't take that bargain. Oh, I mean, yeah, that's a good tip. It means post-humor.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You know, good for Alladarkin. He called my bluff. yeah that's bullshit jinn oh it would have been little miss sunset for you you know what jinn i'm gonna take my chances with the academy good day well close call for allan ark so this fucking dude after he tells the jinn to fuck off i guess reconsidered and i don't know if this is kind of like a sarcastic comment or said in the moment because he's been gut shot or whatever but he's like, I wish I was never
Starting point is 00:21:12 born. I related to this in a big bad way and the guy's name is Eric too and I'm just like absolutely I've always wished for this actually. Well, now you see you shouldn't do that Eric. Yeah, dude, unless you want to go out with a fucking babeality because that's what happens to this dude.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I was say, like I kind of want to say the way the gin says Eric to you every time I see you now, Eric. Eric. Eric. That is the proper pronunciation. But the best part is, well, also, like, so yeah, he gets, he gets turned into nothing, basically just gets younger and younger until he evaporates, but his cloak is still there. It's kind of cool to see, like, this whole, like, Benjamin Button thing happen real fast, like his shaking his head back and forth, and eventually it's like a baby and then, like, nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's, it's cool, but, like, by the rules of the first movie, that should end in the movie. You know what I mean? Like, if he's never born, because later on, she keeps being like, oh, my God, Eric is dead. and she's crying about Eric. No, no, no. Eric was never born. You never met him. You never met him.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You never went to the art heist. Yeah, and the gin was never freed. Like, that's how the first movie ends is she makes a wish that that guy never got drunk and drops the crate. And that saves the world. But we all know the gin plays fast and loose. He does. He doesn't ever do the right thing. But it's so insane, Chris, because when you're dealing specifically with a being that's known in other mediums.
Starting point is 00:22:39 property is like a genie, like there's already pre-established rules. And so to have this horror genie, like flaunting that shit or bypassing those rules for no real reason, because he uses them sometimes and he doesn't use them other times. It's frustrating. I'm just saying, I'm big Papa Satan, and I'm hearing about the Jin's like doings on earth. And I hear about him, like, a cop tells him to freeze. And then he's like, oh, that was your wish, freeze. I'm like, that's bullshit. You just made that up. You just decided to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He's very sloppy there, Chris, and I agree with you. Like, if there was a good gin court, I would totally take him there. Because, like, the guy clearly wanted you to freeze gin. So at the very least, you should freeze yourself. Yeah, but he needed to chill out. Oh, dude. I love the Mr. freezing here. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:23:28 It is fucking hilarious. Hey, hey, I'm Satan. Stop trying to charm me with that shit. Okay? I get the chill out stuff. still the rules gin the rule now does the god and devil i guess they might exist because what jins are born from fire like a man came from earth angels from i forget already well that's the yeah that's the first there's a big scroll about where jins come from so god and the
Starting point is 00:23:55 devil do exist but gins are born from fire but occupy the nether regions like between different dimensions i guess so i'm just curious what the Because the whole plot, by the way, is once the gin's big thing is once he gets 1,000 souls. 1,000 1,000, right, Arabian Nights. Or a good joke book. Oh, this is going to go great at the company picnic. A thousand and one. I need either a thousand and one souls or a thousand and one golf jokes.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Oh, this is an old book. There's a section on the Irish. see this one Dennis Miller did the blurb for it it gets dicey when you're looking at some of them old joke books man which certainly does so he the plot is like he's going to get a thousand to one souls and then Morgana's going to have to have three wishes and then once she does
Starting point is 00:24:55 the gins in general the fucking plural gins can take over the realm of man I guess that's the idea Long and short of it Oh I can just I'm waiting for my cousins to show up They live out on Long Island Oh I get along with some of them
Starting point is 00:25:13 But not really with others But it won't matter Because the Jins will rule the world The Long Island Jins will rule the world Yeah yeah Betty Yeah yeah yeah Bring the cooler and the Coors light Uh get some ribs for the barber
Starting point is 00:25:28 We're gonna have a time man A time but do gin family picnic sign me up to do it i mean oh totally they're just using all their like wish powers to fuck each other over i wish this to be medium rare now so does the devil mind that the gin is taking souls for himself that's a great question because again they do clearly both exist i think in some way shape or form because like catholicism is proven to be right as it usually is in films uh yeah well Well, this is weird, though.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I don't believe that we're dealing with a Catholic priest here, but the movie thinks that it is. Yes, yeah, I agree. Because this is clearly, like, Russian Orthodox or something. And then, like, they're kind of dressing this guy, sort of like how a priest would have to dress outside of the ceremonial garb. He's dressed for the porn parody. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yes, I'm a priest in Hu-Ju. You understand. That's my religion is Hu-Ju. so he unborns this dude and then this cop comes up he thinks gonna be a major character who's definitely not um who like busts him and you know first he tells the got a free an officer tells him to freeze he freezes him we talked about it it's bullshit uh and then he turns into what uh we're going to call nathaniel demurist which is just andrew divoff with weird blue contacts in a fucking mock turtleneck sign me up dude he is dressed
Starting point is 00:27:01 like a character on like a 90s NBC sitcom and it's fucking awesome yes yes he could have told uh hello David Spade I'm here to put an advertisement in your fashion magazine oh pardon me did you
Starting point is 00:27:17 just wish to be shot David Spade oh man he could be like a Carl Lagerfeld type character in that world too oh shit dude yeah he's got the collars for it in this movie and he could do the voice oh yeah I could see it.
Starting point is 00:27:32 He gets, you know, he gets brought in for questioning. First of all, this guy's got no ID, he's got, you know what I mean? Like, again, like, I don't know, like he doesn't have a birth certificate, but this guy, and this guy starts to sweat him, and this is where it gets a little dicey with the language. Dude, yeah, this dude starts fucking calling the gin all sorts of gay slurs up and down the board. And it's kind of great because the gin, all the gin can do is like take it and he goes, hmm, uh, yeah, um, do you wish your job was more exciting? and he's like, fuck you, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's like, damn, that usually works. The cop says something to the gin about how the gin must be a real good fuck. Yes, which is kind of great. Oh, as a matter of fact, yes, I'm quite proficient in sexual intercourse. Yes, I guess. This is very weird.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm supposed to be asking you the question. I don't know what's going on here. So, yeah, this dude's like trying to sweat him. There's some gay slurs thrown around. The cop's getting frustrated with him. And then the gin basically just falsely admits to killing all the people in the art gallery So he can go to jail It's kind of great
Starting point is 00:28:36 Well because he can't get these cops to wish for anything He's just failing at his job I would again Papa Satan's look at down like are you fucking serious with this shit I would love it if it kept going on he goes to prison No one wants to wish for anything because why would you And it's just like he just gets the death penalty He lives for like 15 years It's like a couple of appeals like all right is this
Starting point is 00:28:57 anything I could do for you wish-wise? No, that's not your... This is your last meal. You have to tell us what you want. Like, no. Did you contact the governor and ask him if he might need anything? Just like, just nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Just striking out left and right until he's fucking executed. Dude, but I love all of this shit, like the gym in court. Like being fucking sentenced to go to jail is so awesome. They have the courtroom drawing of the gym. and I was cackling on my couch.
Starting point is 00:29:29 This is just insane. Now, he's playing, like, Nathaniel Demerist is the identity of a dead man, and our last episode, I guess, would establish what that's all about. But I just don't understand, like, how does the court system just convict this dude if you dig into any of his history? Yeah, he doesn't exist. You know what I mean? Like, how can you sentence someone that doesn't exist?
Starting point is 00:29:50 At least call him John Doe, aka Nathaniel Demerist or something. Or just kill him in the cell. we get back to morgana who is crying over eric's headshot i mean this is it is exactly this actor's headshot it's in black and white it's like him in front of a chain link fence it's amazing by the way eric is the looks like the a he looks like a 311 fan b he looks like a guy who tries to talk you into getting a prince albert at a party like and you're trying to like feel emotion for this in this moment and it's just not working because he just looks like that guy.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. She's sobbing and sobbing and not knowing, not sure what happened. She watches the news report and finds that the gin has taken the rap, which I guess, you know, is sort of like, that's a way to get in someone's good graces. Hey, look, I'm not going to narc you out, man. I'm really cool.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Exactly. Look, I'm not going to tell you why I'm taking the fall for you, but just no, shut up. Did you guys notice this one detail of her apartment above her stove? There's like a tin backslash, but the panel right above her stove has 110% embossed on it the seal of the Freemasons. Oh, really? Wow. And we see multiple scenes in this living room loft type of situation. And you see it above the stove multiple times in the movie.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And I'm like, what are they saying? I don't know. Oh, man, Jack Schold is trying to send them. message. Oh shit. He's trying to notify all the masons, man. Here we go. Somebody stick the cue boards on this. It's the few times that we see her apartment when she's not in or coming out of the shower. So that's good. Totally. Although she is sleeping slash crying in this scene in a weird like, spayed out end up in my underwear kind of way. I was like, that's an unusual position for morning. I don't know, man. Like you, I'm, you know, when I'm feeling,
Starting point is 00:31:55 depressed. I got to get wrapped up in some blankets, my friend. That's me. That's my move. Totally. Well, it's L.A. Maybe it was hot out or something. Yeah, if you want real depression, look at a death become sir with eating the frosting. Oh, dude. That's about it. Oh, my God, Goldie Haughty and the
Starting point is 00:32:11 frosting in that movie. We just rewatched it like last week and I almost fucking vomited all over again. That's more that's more what I'm thinking about. Not like hanging out in your underwear like you're just about to have stacks. So, but the gin starts he starts to fuck with her too right that's the idea well yeah she starts getting some visions of him
Starting point is 00:32:29 and he fulfill the prophecy yeah that's right uh which we hear a thousand times it's like we hear it a thousand times before we're told what the fucking prophecy even is i would be like hey i did a favor for you do a favor for me listen i took i'm taking this murder beef all by myself yeah totally i love uh so my favorite sequence of the movie is right here it's when the gin is like in a holding cell before he's transported to prison. So like he's just in a jail and he's stuck with like a bunch of other dudes in this holding cell. And this
Starting point is 00:33:01 guy's like, take the fucking shoes off. Oh, look at these fancy shoes you got out of here. I love this because the guy's like, are those English shoes? And the Jid's is like, I don't know. So much of this is awesome because it's the gin. He's not hiding the fact
Starting point is 00:33:19 that he's a genie from any of these people. No. But at the same time, he's like an alien trying to pretend that he's a human being. He's got this stone-faced grin, this entire, for most of this movie when he's human, and it is chilling and awesome to look at. I love every second of it. It's exquisite, dude. I kind of wish he had, like, had a, he spiraled off existentially when he thought of, he's like, well, did I pick those shoes? Did I pick this turt in that? What the fuck? How did that? Because we don't see him turn into, like, looking like Andrew DeVox.
Starting point is 00:33:55 it's a weird like he's it's in the shadows you see it's in the shadows but it's a hilarious like when he's like reborn as the gin there's definitely a shot of him like squatting nude like he's a time traveling terminator for a second which did you hot fucking totally love it but when this guy's messing with him again fast loses these rules chris and i'm with you because he's like what do you wish and he's like i want your yuppie ass and like at that point you've got to give it up man Sorry, dude. Bend over and show him. Exactly. I mean, and don't, don't, don't be skippy either. Like, get into it too. That would be great because then, like, his, his fucking ass could, like, bite the dude's dick off. That would be something. I mean, oh, chomper's on your ass. Interesting. I'll show you how uneven it is because in that interrogation scene, he asked, he asked, what do you want to the detective? And he says, you give me nothing but horse shit. Prime time to give him a bunch of horseshit. Oh, that'd be cool. Just dump it on him. you in manure. He's this puking up
Starting point is 00:34:56 horse shit. Oh, Biff. Yes, exactly. That's what happened to Biff. He made a wish with a gin. Maneur. I love manure.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I love it. So, yeah, this dude, you know, he's like, oh, ladies and gentlemen, we got a fucking genie in ourselves. It's so hilarious. And so, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:21 this dude, he's like, oh, what can I do? for you and he's like oh I want to walk right through those that door whatever the wording is yeah the bars want to walk right through those bars out of here and he's like done and dude the genie making this fucking guy cram through these jail bars is incredible it's a great practical effect by the way this movie was not released in theaters it was a directed video but first it premiered on HBO so this is the HBO original film sort of really that's right
Starting point is 00:35:54 HBO was fantastic in like this era right we got like ricochet a few weeks ago it's Wishmaster 2 ricochet and fucking Maria full of grace well there's the wedlock slash deadlock
Starting point is 00:36:10 movie we did a hundred years ago that was an old HBO movie the Jay Leno David Letterman's story late shift oh the late shift yeah oh you wish to take over the you wish to take over the tonight show
Starting point is 00:36:22 do you jay i think we did do my dark lord oh i think we did do that last time oops you do the show long enough oh yeah uh so morgana starts having more of these fulfill the prophecy dreams and it forces her to go to church where
Starting point is 00:36:40 she meets up with a priest who's also an old flame that kind of looks like former professional wrestler bradshaw he does uh this is uh i won't call him great paul johansson he's just a TV actor he's got a little run on 902 and oh
Starting point is 00:36:58 really yeah I'm just scrolling through his IMDB as well he's gotten some credits he was in Atlas shrugged and Boondock Saints 2 he's in agent madman as the guy that forces Joan out of the last agency
Starting point is 00:37:14 they're in like he basically makes it like hey have sex with me or you got to get out of here and she looks like oh shit wow so he still going like to this day. Yeah, he's working, man. He's just TV actor. What is Steve, what's his arc on 902-1-0? He's a
Starting point is 00:37:29 rapy frat guy, so there you go. Oh, perfect. Interesting. And they, you know, God bless him. I'm sure he's a great guy. This is a terribly written character. The guy is trying his best, but these fucking lines between her and him about
Starting point is 00:37:45 heaven and hell. I mean, she's saying shit like, if heaven exists, Satan must exist, right? East and he's like, well, I really know about that. This guy is unusually beefy. Yes. That's why he looks like Bradshaw. But not in a beef cake
Starting point is 00:38:02 sense. I mean, in that I actually think he's just eating a lot of beef over there. Yeah, just like Bradshaw. But he has kind of, like, it's one of those moments where I don't think the screenplay understands what it's actually saying to the audience right here, but they have this nonsense
Starting point is 00:38:20 back and forth about like, heaven and hell and whatever and i'm like listen i signed up for an evil genie movie can we get out of this church but the guy at one point just says to morgana he goes uh is there a point to this and i was like yeah motherfucker great question dude oh why isn't the gin on screen huh like he's speaking for the audience don't where uh where is this evil genie right now don't you think i should be more like a lumberjack i mean look at this physique i'm working with here ladies and gentlemen he is he's a big hunky hulky dude with this goatee which i think is hilarious at a later scene which i'll get to he also is wearing the biggest cross ever oh my god he puts
Starting point is 00:39:03 up in his pocket sometimes in like the shirt pocket and it's just this is a humongous chain yeah i got to put it in my shirt pocket because it's uh so heavy it starts cranking my neck so i guess like before he went to seminary they had a fling or something maybe he was an art thief as well i'm not sure they sort of intimate that like their breakup like caused him to go into the priesthood yeah no that makes sense giving the ending and where this goes yes and she's like eric is dead and like he's like oh no he's kind of like fuck your fuck your new boyfriend kind of still like he's not exactly a great priest i'll be completely honest it seems like it's a thing where it's like that dude took those vows because she broke up with him and like he didn't know what to do about it and it seemed like a good
Starting point is 00:39:48 idea at the time, but he regrets it every day since. Ooh, single. Oh, no, your boyfriend died. Oh, that's a sin against the world. Oh, oh, you're saying Eric died. Oh, Eric, who you left me for, huh? Yeah, that's a great tragedy in your life. You'll have to deal with by yourself. Yeah, I'll fucking light a candle, lady. Get the fuck out of here. Excuse me, I have to yelp with joy in the back room. I'll be back in one second. If you hear a lot of cheering and woo-hooing coming from the rectory, I promise it's definitely me. That's definitely not walking on sunshine coming from the rectory. Hey, Father, Father Gregory, your sermon this week on Lazarus coming back from the dead
Starting point is 00:40:29 was just all about this lady Morgana and whether or not you should go for it with her. Now that she's single, it was just like a weird monologue. I couldn't see the parallels between that and the Bible story. We're gathered here today to discuss. What would Jesus fuck? If I recall, well, no, if I recall correctly, and somewhere in the Bible, it's like mentioned that he had children.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Oh, yeah, dude, he was slamming ass. And I say that respectful. Of course, of course. So the gin goes to prison. Sorry, it is. It's a funny idea. It's a funny idea. I mean, because when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:41:16 really it's like here's the second movie of an established now like horror franchise I mean maybe not a franchise but it's got a sequel so enough people liked Wishmaster it's coming out in the 90s and whatnot so we're still so this is what did I say 99 yeah so you know we've had
Starting point is 00:41:32 scream at this point so there's other like there's a revitalized slasher culture you know franchise culture and it's basically like if you took any of those people like Michael Myers Freddie Kruger well maybe not Freddy but like jacy you know what i mean and just like put him in jail and it was just jason goes to jail
Starting point is 00:41:50 it would be great because it's cheap and uh it's easy to make right and if you by the way if you said this 99 if you told me this was 92 i'd be like yep oh absolutely that's why i had to check again i had to scroll up in my notes to make sure it was 99 because you're totally right eric like this could be the early 90s like nobody's business well because wishmaster the first one's 97 which is also crazy that like feels like 93 or 94 get div off back read redo this series get him back in the saddle to give me more wishmaster movies because i like these first two you guys told me not to go any further right no because he's not in the third we've tried to i mean we said there's a fourth as well that he's also not in yeah the third one it's we i watched it was on pluto
Starting point is 00:42:33 at like the same time we were all watching it andrew i kind of accidentally watched about half of it together and i was just like nah man i need div off or i'm out it's really him that's making the whole thing sing absolutely it really is Absolutely. It's that in the deaths, and the deaths, it's already lesser quality in the second one. I forget the third one, but I don't think they're very good at all. Yeah, I mean, it's Wishmaster 3 Beyond the Gates of Hell. And it's like he is, it's something, something there's a college student. I think it's the woman from criminal minds there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 From criminal minds. From Final Destination, too, as well. Yes, exactly. The thing is, is when Wishmaster is going to Jim. He acts like this is like his grand plan was to always get into jail. And I am convinced that he's playing this off and he has been trying to get everybody to make wishes. Like from this is the jail point on. Like every time he's out of like in custody of somebody else, he's trying to get that to make wishes.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And just it's never working. Only these idiots in jail actually want to make these fucking wishes. Well, there is, I will say to add some validity to the argument of this is his plan all. along there is that garbage line that this priest has like a little later in the movie when she's like oh it's after they've like confirmed that this dude is an evil gin and everything and she's like oh yes so now this gin is just in that prison or whatever and the priest is like oh yeah well you know a lot of people making wishes in there yeah i know i guess so i mean it's like the screenplay trying to tell you why this movie makes any sense i feel like if i was making a wishmaster
Starting point is 00:44:15 movie i would set it like he's just working at a shitty office job and it's like oh it's carroll's birthday okay here's my time to strike oh you wish that you were that the paper wasn't jammed oh that'll cost you yes oh actually you do have to say it out loud or it doesn't come true just like hold up as a tarot card reader and just like say what do you wish for and it'll sound normal in that sense. Yeah, I guess that's true. It's all in the packaging, dude. And also, like, if you could do, like, later in the movie, I think he impersonates Gregory's voice. Like, if you could do that, do that all the time. He's doing that on the phone, too. It's great. He's doing jerky boys. Dude, exactly. If you can be fucking jerking on the phone line, man, then all you have to do is just
Starting point is 00:45:06 start cold calling old people. They will fucking turn over, gleefully turn over all. Or of their personal dreams and wishes and credit card information to you customer service yeah get into customer service gin sit there and be like what do you wish for and they're gonna say something very very rude to you and you can go hog wild honestly you're not paying attention to any of the rules anyway go well this is nathaniel demurist for sally may you are delinced in your loan uh what do you wish for yeah exactly like and i think that that kind of thing Steve is what leads him to the jail because I think his idea is like
Starting point is 00:45:47 oh yes well of course they'll all just wish to be freed from jail but like it doesn't appear to be going that way and at one point like when he leaves the prison finally we're told that he has indeed collected 201 souls it's a lot of hard work dude
Starting point is 00:46:02 so yeah but my question is like because I imagine there was going to be a gag at some point in this movie where he's like oh no I'm running out of prisoners because like he's freed everybody in the prison well because no one ever because he's like people catch on fairly quickly that he's either the devil or a wishmaster or whatever he does call himself wishmaster which is amazing we're saying wishmaster a lot in this movie i don't think we did the last time i think it's like at least 10 times the amount we hear
Starting point is 00:46:29 wishmaster in the first movie which is to say zero times yes my name is west miser but no one ever says like i would like to be free from fucking prison this is hell I would very much like to not be in prison right now. See and here's the move though is like if you're the gin and you want to do this and you want to get it done quickly just be like all right listen I know
Starting point is 00:46:55 this is going to sound stupid just give me five minutes and if at the end of five minutes you're not totally blown away with what I'm about to show you I will let you fucking shank me to death and then he's just like all right person number one all I need you to do is
Starting point is 00:47:10 to me say that you wish to leave jail. And then he fucking does it and then it's just like it'll start selling like hot cakes. The idea is like rolling up this list. All right, all right. Just give me two minutes, everybody. I'll tell you why the gin doesn't really want the numbers because if you really just wanted the numbers
Starting point is 00:47:27 and to be done with it, you just go to an orphanage and start asking what they would. Man. Yeah, but then. Yeah, orphanage, cancer war, and anything like that, you know. Very easy. If you really want to get the numbers, if you want a money ball it. At the
Starting point is 00:47:40 orphanage, he might run into Esther or someone like that and it's like oh oh i've met my match oh yeah that oh no this weird orphan tried to have sex with me if you want if i can you want to get some wishes granted dude go to a bus station after 6 p.m after rush after rush hour whoever is there will make you a wish i had to go to the bus station because unfortunately i'm too creepy looking to be granted access to st jude's hospital but i think the russian gangster dude does say that he wishes to be free from prison right and we eventually get there so this yeah the first guy comes up with is it's this guy uh this the actor is robert lasardo um who's just a character actor you see in a trillion things oh i was trying to think
Starting point is 00:48:31 i just saw robert lasardo in something recently that he popped in but like the dude is everywhere yeah just like a new york actor that's just like uh looking through a lot of his he's in the mule obviously um yeah um it's just a ton of shit like but so it's him and like his guy and he's like talking about like all of his you know all the troubles he's having with his lawyer and the gin just comes up just like oh it sounds like that's pretty difficult to deal with and he's like he's really he's ready to fucking kill this guy and listen i am a wish master whatever you say will will happen and this is where the guy just says you know what i wish my lawyer would go fuck himself and again i'm like wish for freedom wish for money, wish for anything.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I think that the fuck himself line is what he overhears though like earlier because like the guy's giving him shit and the gin cuts him off and he's like, well I believe I heard you say you'd like to see your lawyer go fuck himself. But you're totally right though
Starting point is 00:49:28 Steve. Bypass all of that and just like get me out of here. I wish to be a free man. The end of the guy who gets put through the bars, the last thing he says he wants is to walk through the fucking front of the jail, like walk out of the So, like, clearly he doesn't, he's not paying attention anyway, so you might as well tell him to go, fucking lawyer.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I mean, like, really, like, he's going to kill you anyway. So, you know, the dude, uh, doesn't believe him. The gin is like, tell your friends. Uh, and this is what, yeah, he gets called into a meeting with his lawyer. Yep. It is an amazing scene because the guy's like, because what, what, uh, Lassardo is complaining about is like, you know, uh, there was a legal search anyway and the lawyer fucked it up. And the guy is like, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:11 I just found out, that was an illegal search. I can get you right out of here. But, oh, oh, oh, he's going to go out. Oh, dude, he's having these, like, shit pain cramps. It is hilarious. And it's like his spine turning around so his body, his legs can, like, face the other direction so they can go upwards and fuck his own ass or something. It's just, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Whatever you think, don't try to make sense of it. It doesn't work. Oh, it works, Chris Cabin. I'm in elongating his dick. I imagine Chris in a room with, like, just one kitchen light with a cigarette, just like figuring this shit out, like, but if the leg went that way. I bought, like, the spirograph, like, architecture board, like, writing these big fucking equations. It's like, no, no, it doesn't make sense. No, no!
Starting point is 00:50:58 Because you're totally right, Cabin. I thought the move was going to be, like, he just gets this, like, massive serpentine penis that can just, like, wrap back around and fuck his own ass. but like I don't know like that was kind of a problem with this as hilarious as it is it's just like two little puppet legs going like like weep wait we like back and forth and I'm like no no this is wishmaster two man this is the big bad sequel I need to see this gargantuan cock fucking yeah was the gin supposed to take out this guy's career the actor playing this part because it's just more embarrassing I'm like oh man you're just man man Chris really it's just just footage of him doing yoga. Uh-huh, sure.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Because he, like, he does it, and he kind of gets bent over the table by himself or by his legs, and it's kind of hilarious because at first it's really like, ah, oh, oh, and he's like getting into it, it's like, good fucking God. Levitating off the ground while it's happening. It doesn't make any sense. And like, Lissardo and the guard are just like almost throwing up. And I'm like, this needs to be discussed. Like, I talked to that guy, he said, like, I'm not, I ain't no rat, but I told this guy said,
Starting point is 00:52:11 he would make my lawyer a fuck himself. I don't know what that was. Put that guy in isolation because fuck off. Absolutely. It's not handled that great. Also, you know, I understand it's very crazy to witness what they're witnessing right there. But I don't know. Ask this guy if he's okay.
Starting point is 00:52:29 They both just stare at this man. Are you dead? Well, to be fair, again, he's getting into it. it after a while, so it's like, all right, let him finish, I guess. Oh, never mind, he likes it. It is so funny. And then, like, we cut to, like, Morgana on, like, trying to use a proto-Google that is WebZap Services.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Oh, dude, WebZap Services, Inc. We will steal your Social Security card. And instead of, you know, a search, it says, find for legal reasons. And she types in Persian mythology and finds all about Ahura Mazda. keeper of the stone of the secret fire or something something you can see it was a statue probably yeah the statues of
Starting point is 00:53:11 her and it's all about the fulfilling of the prophecy the I guess the first time back in the Persian empire find your nearest pillow for these scenes this is like it just doesn't come to anything really and it doesn't matter I mean she's talking she's researching like
Starting point is 00:53:27 you know ancient Persian mythology or whatever and she's like oh you know who could help me with this research, that fucking priest I cuckolded it back in the day. But I think it does come from something, Chris, because she finds the secret like clatu virtu-viratu thing for this. Oh, yes, the gibberish. I forgot about the gibberish. And we can kind of talk about this all, because they're kind of happen concurrently. Like, we keep cutting back with her. At a certain point, the priest realizes that she needs to be of a
Starting point is 00:53:57 pure soul. Why does she cut her own pinky off or whatever this is? Yeah. I don't know. it. I think she's part of that Amy Coney Barrett, like Opus Day, like Mel Gibson, racist, religious cult. Eric is dead on on this one. He's got it right. Because the fuck, she also returns the painting in a duffel bag while she does this. She drops it off at the, at the museum and the guards are like, hey, they were here the whole time. Well, you made it right and you harmed yourself. You're good. Yeah, I just, the cutting of the finger I was just super confused about. Meanwhile, there's this big gang leader and these two karate fighting guys, he's got two karate fighting sidekicks. The martial arts twins, they're great. They are great.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I love this pretty fantastic. This big dude that's like, you like, you need to pay me rent because you're doing business in my house with Wishmaster. And he just assumes the Wishmaster is secretly selling drugs and not wishes. Yes, that's right. Which is pretty awesome. This is what he meets the Russian guy first. and the Russian guys like, get me out of here and he's like, oh, I could do that. You know, it's got to cost your soul. And he's like, and this is the only guy that's
Starting point is 00:55:08 like, can I get like five wishes, like 10 wishes. Give me like a couple wishes. Come on. It's also one of these things where the movie sort of tells you like this guy isn't smart enough to understand the danger that he's in. And thus like the gin kind of like takes him under his wing a little bit here. Also Khrushkov has been around. He knows what's going on. he's been seeing it he's like what you've got you've got one wish from that man who fuck himself you haven't been making dishes my man why don't you give me five dishes and i'm in with you listen i see i see a laden i know how this work you get three then all of a sudden on your last wish i will promise to set you free i promise i will do the lead thing where and then your bonds
Starting point is 00:55:53 come off and you go to disney world in the or whatever i have to say jean i am a big fan of all Disney property, but Aladdin specifically, very entertaining, love Mr. Robin Williams. You, sir, are nothing like Mr. Robin Williams. It would be awesome if any, in one of these movies, he goes, you never had a friend like me. Oh, man. Oh, you wish I was like Robin Williams, do you? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Oh, my God, he starts doing a Robin Williams pressure. Oh, no, this is too much free association. this is a horrible wish gone bad. There is some point around here where she goes and visits the gin himself in prison to be like, hey man, why did you take credit
Starting point is 00:56:39 for my murder? And there's a great gin gag right here where she's like what happened to Eric, my boyfriend or whatever, and he goes, he had a regressive experience. I was like, yeah, baby, he's joke.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And again, he shouldn't exist. But she, like, realizes that he's evil. And she runs off and does more research. And this is when the guy comes like, hey, man, rent is due. I forget there's a guy who comes up to him. It's amazing. It's like, my wife is cheating on. My old lady's cheating on me with my brother-in-law or some long story.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And he's like, and this is where to Chris. I believe the guy says this sancho is running around with my bitch, which is the line. We need to do something about that, says the gin. And this is where I need to come. out of way where I see this guy get killed. Oh, yep. I agree. But the gin is like upping his racket, which is awesome because it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:36 your soul and a pack of cigarettes, please. I absolutely 110% wholeheartedly love that the gin takes up smoking in penit. I guess I'll have your soul and some pornography, maybe. When in Rome, I'm going to have cigarettes. pornography everywhere. You're fine. Gallons of Bruno. That's fine. Give me some more Bruno. I can drink Bruno all day long and your soul.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And the guy comes up and he's like, look, motherfucker, like the Vig has come do kind of a thing. And the gin's like, you know, oh, what can I offer you? And the guy goes, you don't offer me shit. He wants his drugs, right? Yeah, he just starts yelling. He's like, I just want to get wasted. Wasted. Wasted. He just keeps yelling the word wasted, it is hysterical.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And it is kind of hilarious because the gin has to be like, I need a clarification, defied, waste. And he's like, fucked up, you know, like, stomped beyond all belief. And he's like, that's what I was waiting for. And I think is this where you can stop and come up. He goes, come on, let's rock. Well, that's because his two karate bodyguards turn on him and start karate karateing him. And I don't think I've ever seen a horror movie involve a karate. adjacent murder. So I guess this is like scary karate. It is scary karate because they don't
Starting point is 00:59:01 know they don't they're not trying to do the karate. Their legs are working on their own and their face is like, oh no, I'm kicking and I don't want to. That is the best part of it is they have no control or understanding of why it's happening. And they're like, boss, we're really sorry. We're beating you to death. There might have been one in killer workout, but I forget. Oh, good call. Yeah. Or maybe one of those, one of the nightmare on Elm Street's possibly. This is when tiny Zeus Lister is like the main guard that said tag. He's he's. He's I don't know about this gin, which is kind of hilarious. You know what, Jin, I don't like you and you don't like me kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Well, the funniest thing is he's like, oh yeah, wishmaster. And I'm like, you know his, he had to give you some name when he came in here. What's it wish master? Like if the like a demurist. Does he call him demurist? Maybe he does. But also like the story of the lawyer who fucked himself has made it through the prison. you know what a guard saw it a prisoner saw it we're steering clear this fucking weird dude man
Starting point is 01:00:00 because i don't know what's up that's the thing man i need like a scene with the warden who comes in like holy and then it's like you know oh we got to cover this up you know like we cannot have this getting out there was a man who fucked himself to death in my prison or whatever and then if we can get like the gin fucking over the warden that that would be more like satisfying hi tyuster has his own problems though because he keeps on going up to all these different you know ruffians and saying like i'm your daddy you're my little girl oh does it yeah it's kind of weird it's kind of weird well when he when the gin eventually screws him over it's because the gin you know is trying to get him to ask you know whatever it is
Starting point is 01:00:43 you want and he says something to him like i want to dance with you oh no i want me and you alone in the room just dancing or something that's what yeah that's what it is exactly and then they go to a room alone and he turns into the monster gin and we cut away because we want to trick the audience but I just want to see this happen yeah I want to see these two beefcakes go at it yeah I mean there's no sort of uh you don't even see well do you see the aftermath you do see the aftermath you see as you see tiny lister's face is like cut off of his body and he's laying yeah oh that's right something like there's a chunk missing I'm like what was that I want to see that I think it's like I can explain it
Starting point is 01:01:24 The Wishmaster is now, looks exactly like Tiny Lister, but, and perfectly, and I'm like, shouldn't his face be, like, bleeding and, like, barely on you? Oh, I actually, I just found Tiny Lister's line that he says. He goes, I wish I could slow dance with you for one minute alone, Compton style. And I mean, honestly, and then you have to cut to them alone in a room and them actually slow dancing. It would be like, oh, this sucks. I wish I could turn this around, but this is actually. kind of nice. I feel safe in your
Starting point is 01:01:56 arms. And that's the thing is like as soon as Tiny Lister says Compton style, we need the music licensing. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Put that fucking song in this movie right now. Well, that was a little expensive,
Starting point is 01:02:12 but we do have this flag that says Compton before I do. I mean, my favorite part of the first movie, which we talked about, is the part when like, it's Kane Hodder, as a security guard and the gin's doing his business he's like what do you wish
Starting point is 01:02:29 and then he's just like I want you to get the fuck out of here and then he has to like walk out and he's like no this doesn't work at all and I mean that's what I'm talking about that's what I want this movie yeah I need the gin being like a little more
Starting point is 01:02:43 inconvenienced by some of the requests for sure just like oh all right fine that's what you wished for I am sorting all these M&Ms to only give you green Eminens. It's going to take a little while. Come back tomorrow. Well, yeah, make him, like, I wish they would do, make it a comedy and make it like a boomer gin. Like, what do you mean you want a zaddy?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I'm confused by this. What do you mean? Everyone, your father, it's confusing. Simping, I don't understand. What you're sipping for a girl? You said you wanted to Twitch. and now your limbs are twitching because you are dead.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Oh, you, oh, you want her to send feet, do you? You want her to send feet. And it's just like this guy being buried in all these stumped foot. No. I mean, yeah, but, you know, no. Then you cut to like Rebecca Romaine Stamos
Starting point is 01:03:44 without feet and all this shit. Oh, my God. Oh, you wanted her to send nudes. Now you're being killed by nude people. Oh, you told her you wanted to show her your eggplant, do you well, my friend? Oh, you want to hook up, do you? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:04:06 This all makes sense. So at one point, like, the priest also goes to see him, and it's a weird moment where he's like, by God, it's the devil. Or whatever. And this all goes into Morgana's whole bullshit thing of, like, she needs to become this pure at heart person, which also involves. Wearing less makeup. Wearing less makeup.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Wearing like weird whites and pastels, you know, instead of like her black clothing we've seen her wear previously. She is converting to this Christian sect that Gregory belongs in. And then they can be like the nuclear family eventually. Exactly. Yeah, that's something we didn't point out when she cuts her finger and returns a painting. She also like gets rid of all of her jewelry and renounces makeup. Yeah, it's just, I mean, it's a weird message and it's really unclear.
Starting point is 01:04:53 as to whatever this means. Yeah, especially since, like, you know, someone, they need to be pure of heart and et cetera to finally vanquish the gin and to do that. I mean, who cares, right? Spoiler alert, she says, she says like, oh, I wish I didn't kill the guy during the robbery. But, like, how about wish to not do the robbery?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Like, I don't think that negates all your sin by just not committing murder. Yes, for sure. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't make a lot of sense. And also, like, the whole, like, pure thing when they first said it, I thought it was going to be a thing of like
Starting point is 01:05:24 well now we have to find like a teenage virgin or something that can do the ceremony or just priest theoretically like say I wish that fucking the statue didn't fall yes it didn't like then you don't see it it doesn't get open what the fuck
Starting point is 01:05:41 like that's the idea here is we don't want to redo the first movie exactly but at the same time like I don't care about the end of the movie I'm just here for the kills man yeah exactly I'm here for the journey yeah so The priest at one point is like, because the woman says something, yada, yada, Kritschkopf, and he's like, Krichkopf, hey? Hmm, that sounds like a name of a Russian man.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I know that murdered two people in my parish. And I'm like, okay. The dude is like conveniently like, oh, well, you know, I know where all those Kritchkopf like people hang out. The Siberia club. Oh, man. Dude, cut to the absolute cheapest-looking set I have ever seen. And it's like, it's like sub-Samurai Khan. I mean, this is like, what, a strip club or something or just a basement redressed?
Starting point is 01:06:32 I think it's, it's just like it's somewhere that's redressed so poorly that like the door such as it is to this bar area is a curtain where when they open it, you, I am confident these are accidentally just set lights that were left there. Probably. And they got like a stretched globe, like the golden eye map on the back of this bar and there's high heel shoes on the top shelf of the bar. This place is too zany. And he's doing a give another round for all my friends for the gin. Come on. The gin got me out of prison. Yeah, go gin. And he's trying to drum up the gin's numbers. You know, they're buddies now. He's like, who wants wish? My friend will give you whatever you want. And he's like, no, you're embarrassing me. I'm not going to do it in front of all your friends Yes, yes, you're not the first person To order gin for the gin Thank you, thank you everybody One of the Russian dudes says
Starting point is 01:07:26 Well, maybe your friend can make your dick As long as your tongue Yes Yeah, it is a weird thing Because also like this sort of sets off This Critchcoff guy I thought this was going to go way more Into a Renfield territory
Starting point is 01:07:40 And it kind of doesn't And also somehow we're to believe That this Dufus is also like the number two in command of this mob family. It's Mickey Mouse Mafia. It is because he's just like, oh, give me another wish. Make me number one in the family. No, just one wish, dude, sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And even kind of like, he clearly likes Critchcock a little bit. He's like, he does kind of like, I wish I could help you out, man, kind of thing. There are some things that I can't break. I'm sorry. I do love you. I'm sorry, Critchcock. You are officially my longest running friend I've ever heard. usually by now my friends i've melted them down to bone and gristle but uh you have really taken to me
Starting point is 01:08:23 yeah like you said you wanted to leave prison ordinarily i mean that you leave in a body bag or something just be really thankful you know i made that guy fuck himself to death right yeah that was me so you're good i turned somebody into a half snake once so you're getting off pretty lights hey critchcock i never came clean about it but remember when we were back in jail and that dude fucked himself to death. Yeah, that was me, man. That was you. It's great because
Starting point is 01:08:55 this guy comes in Pushkin, who's the head of the mob. And it's just like, blah, blah, blah. I'm the head of the mob, this, that, and the other thing. And it's, oh, I hate Pushkin. And you get some really rad instances here where when Pushkin comes in, he's talking to Krichkoff, they're speaking a little Russian.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And you get to see Andrew Divoff, time to shine here. Motherfunkers fluent in Russian, we get some of this going on. It took me right back to his character on Lost. I couldn't even believe it. It's so good too, because, like, you know, they're kind of like, oh, who's your American friend? And then Divov going right into it. Like, it's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yep, it was fucking great. And I don't know who, I think it might be Pushkin says to the gin here. He's like, you are the most interesting character or something like that. He just goes, yes, I am. Fucking great response. And he's, long story short,
Starting point is 01:09:43 the guys like I wish um you know he's like you must wish for something you you want money or power power and fame and he's like money I have power I have fame I don't need and it's got a great and he's like all right what do you want he's like I want Mustafa Mustafa's head and whoopsidoodle he makes him in and again like this could be grosser I guess it's kind of fun it's still kind of body horror in a way yeah it is but like I wish there was some sort of like Frankenstein's monster type scarring or something like that as it is like they just switch heads so like
Starting point is 01:10:19 they just switch the actor but it's like Pushkin is you know still in the brain but this dude Mustafa's head is on Pushkin's body fucking nothing though like like they turns the head and then they leave yeah but Chris
Starting point is 01:10:35 it's a great curse you he hates this guy more than anything he probably you know like fuck the whole village back home or who knows what well I think what you're supposed to believe here because they carry him away and I think the idea is like all of these other Russian mobsters are like, holy shit, Mustafa
Starting point is 01:10:51 is now somehow in the hideout and they take him away and well they don't kill him though because Pushkin's alive at the end of the movie. Yeah, you see him sleeping as Mustafa. That's right. So you're right, it's totally pointless now. Nothing happens. Nothing happens. But the torment of
Starting point is 01:11:07 Pushkin waking up every morning seeing his mortal enemy in the mirror. That is enough, Chris, No, no, not for Wishmaster 2. I don't need these fucking long game things, dude. No way. What Pushkin Mustafa has to do is go. Pushstaffa. Mustafa has to go to Mustafa's house where his wife has been waiting for him for a long time. Fuck the shit out of her and then like try to replace their dead son in some way. That's exactly right, dude. Then at least Pushkin will forever have over Mustafa.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh yeah? Well, I had sex with your wife. make some salacious comments to his daughter and then fucking get ready to die. If I'm overhearing this and I see this gin do that, I'm like, hey, I want the head of Chris Evans. Come on. Go on. Give me the ass of Chris Evans. Not the body. Make sure you know that. I want the round body still. But Chris Evans face for sure. No, I'm saying I would, all right. Kill me. I guess I would ask for the body swap in that way, just to be really sure that I'm getting.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It's right. You just want to be Chris Evans. Just say I want to be Chris Evans. That's that's it. And there's a, so a really dumb thing sort of ends this scene. The gin is like, okay, so now the count is up to 800. All I need is 800 more souls. And then Critchcock is like about to, he's like, oh yeah, you want more souls. I'll show you where we can get more souls. And before he can like move on anything, Morgana just runs into this bar and like shoots at Critchcoff. Yes. And then runs out like, well, I guess that didn't work. bye. He shoots, she shoots the gin and he has like, oh, it's the gin. He's got maggots all over him and he just kind of like flips them off. Oh, you're totally right, because this is the first time, or maybe it's the only time where he says evil never dies. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, you're totally right. And then like, Morgana just goes back crying to this priest and she's like, I know I've been trying to be good, but then I just went and shot this dude for no reason. Okay. I shot of gin. Okay. Okay. I shot him.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, I don't know what else to do. I guess we should just fuck, right? We should just have sex right now, right? She comes in, like, she's checking the blinds. Oh, my God, put the police scanner on. Listen to anything about a gin that has been shot, okay? I'm very nervous about this situation. Yeah, we got a 607.
Starting point is 01:13:28 That's right. That's an attempted assassination on a gin. A gin is down. Ladies and gentlemen, gin is down. No, it's not a genie. That's a 606. I'm talking about a 607. It's a gin.
Starting point is 01:13:40 It's an evil genie. All right. So no. out of the bottle false alarm on that 606 I didn't say Jen Jen is fine gin the gin no yeah yeah yeah she's
Starting point is 01:13:52 fine gin DJ I and N is that a jib jab that's really why we use the numbers so you know what we're talking about without these kinds of problems but then there's something weird here where it's is it Kritchkoff is like if she's dead
Starting point is 01:14:10 she can't wish this world into hell or is that the gin that says that it shoots her right and like doesn't do anything because the procreth yeah critchkoff tries to shoot her because he's like oh yeah that's the only way that we're going to get out of this situation which is a smart idea I agree with critchcock here oh that's right because it's
Starting point is 01:14:27 it's Morgana and Greg the priest go to see critchcoff and they're like dude what in the fuck is going on and then yeah this is where critchcoff is like well if she's dead she can't wish world into hell so goodbye girl and then yeah the bullets don't do anything to her
Starting point is 01:14:44 so then it's like a oh well you know going to get the souls blah blah blah blah you know it might be I don't know what the setup is for this line it's something like well he's going to have a hard time doing that and Critchcoff is like not where he's going and he just got to the gin going to this casino
Starting point is 01:14:59 and this is a bit of bullshit because all these people are just like come on number seven and it's like that's not a fucking wish you're just being hopeful yeah exactly Yeah. Well, because Bekeem Woodbine is in this movie, The Great Bekeem. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 01:15:14 By the way, I want to institute, Steve, just like with you, whenever you see David Warner in a movie, when Bocheme Woodbine's name came up in the opening credits, I just went, now we're talking Bocheme Woodbine. Absolutely. And I was disappointed to learn that he doesn't come in until the last like 20 minutes of this movie.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And he's just like, you don't really understand what the arrangement is. well, Mr. Demeris, here is and he's like explaining to him what gambling is. I don't get this. He's getting a job at the casino and he's just like, oh, I'm just a dumb little simp off the street. What is this?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Yeah, is it that? Or I thought also like maybe he was like Critchcoff presented him to Bokkeem Woodbine as a weird like this guy may be looking to invest in your casino or something. That's probably it. Because he's just like, so here, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:16:10 genie, people come in, they put their money down on a certain thing that they hope to have happen, and then when enough of them don't have that happen, the house always wins. And he's like, ah, yes, gambling. No, I actually just saw my notes. This is how
Starting point is 01:16:25 okay, so it's not people being hopeful. Bokkeem Woodbine says, the casino wishes everyone the best of luck, but that's an inanimate building. Oh, that's weird. Cooperation are people, my friend, type of thing. Jen, this is insane.
Starting point is 01:16:41 This whole thing, no, these are not wishes. Even at the... I'm calling you back to hell. That's it. Even at best, this is a wish that Bocheme Woodbine makes. If I wish Eric to have a great day, maybe my soul is gone, but Eric just gets a great day. It would be nice if I got one. If you guys could wish for that once in a while. I'll try, Eric.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I'll put my back into it. By the way, so yeah, did we say he needed 800 more souls? Yes, yes. He's down 800. He's got 201 already. It's flacker. How are you getting 800 in one night at a casino? Maybe, I guess.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Because I, I don't know. Like, if you're there for like a whole day. Yeah. Because everyone starts winning all of a sudden. And then the gin goes to his gin office that he's got in the fucking casino. The fact that the gin needs a workplace is one of the funniest things. And it's just like satanic weird hordes on the bag on the bag like, this will do. I also don't.
Starting point is 01:17:38 get where this, it's not like a big casino, like, you know, the, the ones in New Orleans, like the really big ones, but it has all the games. It looks like it's connected to a Benegans. Yeah. Well, you know what it looks like exactly is the set from that fucking TNG episode where they go into that. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. It's a total, it's totally fake. They like redressed a ballroom or something and it looks terrible. Yeah, it really does. And the, the dumbest part about it is like the establishing shot they use is clearly Vegas. I'm just thinking of the gin going to his office He puts down a picture of Morgana Like just like I'm doing it for you babe
Starting point is 01:18:14 A bloody skull Well like the skull with the horns is hilarious Because I was like is this like the Steve Austin Broken Skull Ranch or something He gets all like the workers together And he's like look I have to ask you When you're asking them to place a bet Ask do you wish
Starting point is 01:18:30 To place a bet Make sure you word it exactly that way We're trying to do brand strategy. This is a wish. This is a wish super spreader event. I just honestly though, like, you know, he goes to a jail. That was like his idea in prison. There's a bunch of people, but I love the notion of stealing the souls of degenerate gamblers. Because you know they will give it up. They will give it right up. I feel like once the prophecies like you're trying to cash in those chips, they're like, uh, I don't know about these souls, dude. You got me like some
Starting point is 01:19:02 trash souls here. What if he just all these, all these souls. about old cigarettes. Right at the edges, there's writing on the George Washington. No, this counts for 500 souls, pal, all right? I'll give you 500 for what you brought me today. Go back out there. All right, here's a chit that says this is worth 500 souls. Hold on to that.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You're not going to want to lose that. It's exactly the same value of 500 real souls. Oh, no, I lost, oh, fuck, I lost my chit. I do love I want him to like maybe accidentally become enamored with Vegas and kind of forget about it
Starting point is 01:19:42 you know what I mean become like a De Niro and Casino a little bit like he starts wearing the suits Yeah dude he just gets wrapped up in the life Someone tries to car bomb him and it doesn't work Hold on Look at my blueberry muffin
Starting point is 01:19:58 And look at your blueberry muffin There's a weird moment the gin again thrown his voice here he calls uh morgana pretending to be critch cough and he's like he's like yes i'm going to fly you out here miss morgana i found out where gin is and she's like oh that's cool can i have a plane ticket for my priest friend and he's like yes i mean yes i will fly you both to las vegas and this is when they fucked her and the priest right yep and it's like it doesn't make any sense, like, especially like if she's on this whole purity tip anyway, like
Starting point is 01:20:35 maybe just, you know, and you're cutting your finger off and you're returning old fucking paintings, maybe don't fuck a priest. You know what I mean? Like, just play it on the same side until the gin is safe. Steve, this is how the prophecy's fulfilled. Yeah, stop it. She has to fuck this meat here.
Starting point is 01:20:52 It's a fucking slab of meat. But I mean, that, I mean, it's premarital. That's a sin alone, right? Exactly. Dependent on the rules. But, you know, God's up there going, My priests need to molest. So if she was unwilling, maybe it would be okay. Again, though, this movie thinks that they're dealing with a Catholic priest for some reason.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And this guy clearly is not a Catholic. Right. Because the other ones, what, the Protestants, they can fuck whatever they want. That's true. They can get it wet. The fucking, this priest does have some line around here where, I don't know. I think this is either they're getting ready to go to Vegas or they're already there. And he's like, now what?
Starting point is 01:21:31 incantation can and he sounds like he's giving a salesman delivery pitch for a second and this is where they find out it's the uh i tried to write it down here i had nib sugarov ab hair i have nip sugar radio rahim well it's definitely not radio right nib sugarath bahim yes i think that's correct nib sugar off bahim i'm waiting to see if any one of us leaves the room now if i say that Because that's the thing is like, if you say the magic words, he'll go away. It's the funniest thing that always happens to these supernatural movies where somebody's like, yeah, like that's going to work. I don't know, man, there's a fucking genie on the loose.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Let's just fucking stick with it. Like if there's a magic genie going around killing people trying to harvest 1,0001 souls, maybe saying a bunch of goofy shit will work in this instance. I don't know. But I'm seeing like tops 50 souls in this room, man. Yeah. I'm not seeing the numbers. But again, like all these people are only just winning on the behest of Bakeem Woodbine's
Starting point is 01:22:31 wish which is not you know so like yeah he starts to at this point the gin starts to call the rent do essentially because like the idea is like you keep living your life but he's got your soul and he can get it whatever he wants right which is pretty generous i thought everyone would die immediately because that in the old in the first movie they go into his jewel prison thing right oh that was oh i forgot about that yeah like care bears too the finger thing means the money i feel like the hb the home box office looked at the script. Like, well, all right, this is cut. We're cutting all the jewel scenes.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Well, they've already seen the inside of the jewel in the last one. Well, they don't need to go back now, do they? Yep, been there and done that. Thank you very much. I'm an HBO executive. Oh, okay. So you're telling me I could either, for the price of a Sopranos episode, I can show the inside of your genies gem.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I'll go for the Sopranos episode. Get the fuck out of here. Do you think this is a baby? Operation H-B-B-O. Well, actually, this is not a TV movie. It's HBO. This is the last time I will associate with the home box office.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I found in my notes the exchange, though, about the fucking. Because Morgana says, her and the priest are making out, and he goes, I don't think this is the way to heaven. And she goes, don't be so sure, and just fucks this guy. Nice, dude.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Nice. I, you know what? This is Wishmaster, too, man. I need that sex scene. Yeah, yeah. I'm okay either way. Make it sweatier. Make it less weird.
Starting point is 01:24:17 I was shocked there was no nudity in this movie. Again, because like half of this movie, this woman is either getting into or coming out of a shower. And the gin harasses her in the shower at some point. I don't know. Oh, yes, she's taking a shower in the gin. pulls the fucking Norman Bates for a second. Pretty awesome. Uh, they get to Vegas and they get, they get to the Jinn's office. Oh, by the way, when the Jinn calls the rent dues, like, we see all
Starting point is 01:24:42 of these people that he's previously dealt with, their souls leave their bodies. It's fun looking, I guess. When Mustafa dies, you can see a little Pushkin's face as a red ghost and leaving his body. Oh yeah, that would be pretty sweet or that is pretty sweet rather. Um, there is, well, when he sets this whole thing off. It's a weird thing where he's sitting at his desk at the gin's desk, yeah, in the gin's office. Is this Joaquin Woodbine's office in reality? Like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:25:11 I guess, I don't know. I would like to consider that Bocheme Woodbine gave the gin his own. It just says in, it's two placards, Nathaniel Demarest, and under it, gin. And he he's sitting at the desk and he's holding the jewel and he makes it disappear. And he looks
Starting point is 01:25:29 right at the camera and just goes, magic. What are you talking about? Is that to me? Yes. But this is like what makes everyone start winning at the casino. And I have a feeling because Bokkeem Woodbind, it's kind of hilarious. He's walking around after bragging about like the house always wins and everything. And he's looking like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:25:48 And he goes up to a security guard. And he's like, the fuck is going on around here. And the guy's like, I don't know. This is where you as like the crooked casino owner, you go up, you fucking pull the fire alarm, you pretend there's an electrical outage, anything to stop the winning and cool off
Starting point is 01:26:06 everybody's hot streak. But then all these people start dying, because their souls go into the gin for his power. And then by the time Morgana and Gregory the priest get there, like, there's like all these ambulances and the gambling is still going on.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I mean, I guess that's gambling. People have like having theoretical heart attacks all over the, again, a super spreader event. Like, I'm going to take my winnings and get out of here. Big money. Big money. Well, that's the thing, dude. When you're on a roll, man, you don't want to stop that.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Who cares who's melting around you? And this is when they go into his office and like he, he's trying to, you know, tell her, make her three wishes, even though I don't even think he has a thousand and one souls just yet. But sure. I mean, this is, you're supposed to. just believe that like he got to that number from the casino guess I think when they were like driving to the casino they were like he's got it
Starting point is 01:27:06 he's got all this like she she felt something or something got it I checked out the online soul ticker that he's set up it's it's going it's all the way up there fuck there it is I follow him on Twitter the gin just tweeted he got to a thousand and one wait what is uh what did Nate Silver say
Starting point is 01:27:22 how many souls this is the 538 is projecting that he has Oh, the gin's going to come nowhere close to 270. Oh, well, actually, the electoral college is going to give him 600 souls that he didn't get in the actual... Well, actually, 538 is one of the few websites that did predict that he had at least a 30% chance of getting 1,0001 souls. So we were the most right, actually. Oh, you want Donald Trump to lose the election.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Well, now Kanye West is president. Oh, he'll lose. He'll lose the popular vote. Yeah, that's exactly what it would be, actually. Exactly. No, we just said this. We just said last week we weren't going to do this so close to an election because we fucking did it the last time with our four fat fucking cavalier attitudes and look what happened.
Starting point is 01:28:12 But lightning can't strike twice, Andrew. So, but like, so, and again, like, the, you know, the gin's like, come on, give me three wishes. She's like, no. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you keep saying to fulfill the prophecy. I know what the end of the prophecy is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:29 They tried the magic word on him. It doesn't work. He keeps saying, someone did their homework, which is- Oh, which is kind of great. And he's like, if this isn't a good place to do wishes, let us do, let us duel inside by Jewel. Yeah. Cousin Ben, let's say a soft 6 p.m. start.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I don't want to call it right now. Things are looking a little ify and I don't know if it's going to rain. I just really feel like the move is, Jin. Don't harass this woman all movie. get your thousand one souls on the deal go to like yep go to a different country get a thousand and one souls come back and just kind of become a pal of hers and just be like I wish it what don't you wish it weren't raining so yeah I do wish it wasn't raining and then that's one wish I
Starting point is 01:29:12 you're totally right dude because the other thing is like he's like trying to get her to make these wishes and it's like for what I mean whatever she wishes for like world peace a million dollar like he's even trying to like suggest shit he's like how about a million dollars I'm like like What is a million dollars going to do when all your fucking genie cousins take over the universe? Like Steve is so right, he needs to play
Starting point is 01:29:34 the long game. Even like Tony, Tony, Tiny Lister puts him in like the hole for a week and he's like, oh, I was in a hole for 3,000 years and I was no problem. So you know to play the long game. Play the fucking long game.
Starting point is 01:29:48 We're dancing around the truth of the matter. That is the fact that he's past his prime. He got close to the apocalypse last time and everybody thought he was the best shit on Earth. But no, now he fucked it up. Now he's just doing, taking soul for whatever reason. He doesn't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I mean, I would put the real, like, maybe he comes to her, like, three times in her incredibly long life. She's an old lady now. Dude, like, totally. And just like, oh, don't you wish, don't you wish your back didn't hurt quite as much? I do wish my back to her. Don't you wish prescription medicine cost a little lower? Oh, dude, was he Martin Sheed? Don't I know you from somewhere?
Starting point is 01:30:26 Didn't we date back during Korea? A reverse mortgage is really just getting money from your investments. She's also trying to do shit like, oh yeah, well, I wish you didn't exist anymore. And he's like, yeah, I don't think so. He says some line about like, well, technically, you know, it can't circumvent the prophecy, whatever your wish is. Yeah, it's a lot of bullshit. He's just like, he even says at some point, it's like, well, I kind of have like purview over the wishes and no-go. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:31:04 He doubled sound. He's like, again, like I've said, a wish cannot pertain to me. Uh, per my previous email. All right. When I stomp on your foot and say hello, Morgana, then you wish. I think he's talking to you. There is a, I think the funniest bit of comedy in this movie is right around here where this priest decides he's going to play Father Marin and he takes out a crucifix and shoves it in the gin's face and he's just, it's going like, oh, ah, oh, ah, like faking that it's killing him. Oh, my God. I was howling laughing.
Starting point is 01:31:46 This is when they go inside the jewel and it is the funniest thing in the movie, which is this priest gets crucified like Jesus Christ. Christ. And just because he's got this goatee and this haircut, it looks exactly like what it would look like if Brett Farve were to be crucified, which I didn't know I needed to see, but I'm so glad I saw it. Jeez, at least get me crucified in my Lee Dungarees. Oh, man. No, you're going to be crucified in a Jets jersey. Oh, man. Oh, no, not here with the pack. Ah. and he's obviously doing it so that she will wish that he stops doing it
Starting point is 01:32:27 and he goes she goes I wish you to release him and again lady like you know what you're dealing with here you're like I want you to stop crucifying him and for him to live a long healthy life that is the wish yep exactly he just kills this dude
Starting point is 01:32:42 she does have a horrendous line right here because right after the gin kills him she just goes go fuck yourself in hell and I was like all right he told you like three minutes ago when the priest said something about hell that he does not care about hell and is not threatened by it in the least it would be a great callback if he fucked himself it would be such a great oh no and that would justify why they didn't show it
Starting point is 01:33:13 when the lawyer was doing it because that is a thing you get away with one time in a movie the wishmaster isn't very serious about getting these souls I think at all because you remember in the casino slaughter scene coming up. That's what we're getting to right now, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Because what happens, Chris, is hilariously the Wishmaster's like, all right, I get it. You had a rough day.
Starting point is 01:33:36 That's need a more wish-provoking environment. And then they go to the casino. And this casino, so a slaughter, it's like the nightclub and Hellraiser 3. Yeah. And also like the beginning and ending of the first
Starting point is 01:33:51 wishmaster. Surprise, surprise. It's, it's pretty funny because like a roulette table suddenly has like knives on it and is rolling around a battle roulette table it's fucking hilarious the dude it looks like something you'd see in a cling on casino the funniest one by far is the fucking uh somebody says crapped out oh my god and this old lady gets gets like a big fat stomach and then shits out gold coins but doesn't die from it yeah she's fine afterwards well because the leprechaun didn't do it. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:34:25 But he got it out of the belly at least to kill that motherfucker. Well, I think there's two different things here, though, because that happens to that lady, but then there's a dude who bursts open like an overcooked Thanksgiving turkey, and that's when he goes, he just crapped out. I think this lady who is shitting coins, they need to either A or both. One, they need to be covered in shit, at least a little bit. And two, there's some blood coming out of there, too, because you know, you can't pass that many coins without really doing some
Starting point is 01:34:53 structural damage. You're going to be tearing something, yeah, absolutely. Shitting out intestines. I mean, like, come on, you're just doing this to that guy who's exploding over there. But my favorite is the fucking 52 pickup of the everyone getting hit in the face with cards. Oh, dude, it's great. It was kind of like, because I was
Starting point is 01:35:09 thinking exactly about the Hellraiser 3 nightclub scene. And one of the funniest parts of that movie are all the CDs that are flying around everywhere. And before the cards happened, I was like, man, that Hellraiser scene is so much better because you've got a bunch of CDs that are oh oh there never mind but the cards
Starting point is 01:35:26 go through someone else's stomach this guy's stomach and then start flinging out it's tremendous oh right that dude another person just explodes yes and they're all the rule cards and because Bokkeem Woodbine can't keep his fucking mouth shut
Starting point is 01:35:41 he's just like man what's next frogs and locusts and guess what comes frogs and locust and like Bokkeem Woodbind gets like torn apart by locus kind of it's not going to stop I'm trying to do my Amy Manon impression
Starting point is 01:35:56 Oh that's right Listen Do you think Philip Baker Hall acted untoward To Malora Walters But yeah He is just kind of eaten by all these bugs
Starting point is 01:36:12 It's pretty fantastic Tom Cruise You can reconcile With your father Jason Robards But is it too late the bit of bullshit on the locust saw it's like there's a few bugs on them which is cool but then they just do a bunch of like black spots on the screen moving it is the cheapest part of the movie for sure i thought they were like slugs or something for a second like i totally didn't understand what was happening um but so morgana then wishes that um the security guard that she shot and killed uh was alive again because she has something where she goes way earlier in the movie there's a scene where she goes to like
Starting point is 01:36:51 his family or something like that. I don't know that it's the guy's or is it footage? I thought she drove by somewhere. I think she like had read that he was a family man and I guess she imagined it or we just saw him come home. There's definitely news footage of somebody trying to talk to the mother and the kids
Starting point is 01:37:07 and that like a friend or something is telling them back off, back off. Right, right. And so yeah we see yeah I guess it's just like we flash to see that dude like coming home from work or whatever and he's alive. So that's like her
Starting point is 01:37:23 bad deed or whatever is erased. And I guess that means her slate is clean now. But what that one scene? They shot it on like a camcorder. Like all of a all of a sudden like everything changes to this really grainy shit. It's like supposed to be artsy, I guess. It's sort of. I mean I don't know what. Because it's black and white
Starting point is 01:37:42 too. So it's like it's they're trying to do something there. I don't know what they're trying to do. Yeah. No, I think it's like a look at this magical vision thing now or something. Yeah, or black and white because he's like a godly man going back. Like the nuclear family, et cetera. Yes. Or maybe it's a thing where it's like him coming home from work that day after all kind of a thing. You'll see.
Starting point is 01:38:04 But then that's it. That foils the gin and then he goes back inside of his Jewel. Yeah, all the souls start bursting out of the gin and like going, this is what's bullshit. Yes. Going back into the bodies of all the people and then they're just alive. Fuck you horror movie. what does that matter? They go to heaven or whatever or the devil gets them. Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:38:23 The fact that we see people in the casino standing up. No, no. Not after that carnage. No. The funniest part is like the people, there's other people that weren't killed just yet that are just still standing around. Like is there a thing that I missed where the
Starting point is 01:38:39 doors all lock or something? No. Again, I think it's just like, well, I don't know. This is my table. The slot machine's really hot. Get up. Someone's going to come and sit down. I tried to put the little napkin over the cup. Don't work. Don't work. I don't want them stealing my hot streak.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Yeah, it's so dumb, though. They should just be dead because the other thing is when you see there's like a big wide shot of everybody like standing up in the casino. Like all of the carnage is erased. Like, come on. Not only that, the fucking priest Gregory gets shit out of the gym. And he's like, well, I'm okay now. Oh, that Christian sure was something. And then the, what the hell is this supposed to be?
Starting point is 01:39:21 I just came straight from the crucifixion and boy are my arms tired. And my feet and the one side of my rib gauge. The gin is seen crawling out of himself. Yeah. During all of this, which is weird. Ghost Wishmaster. Like the Wishmaster's soul is being killed, essentially. Like, that's what it looked like to me.
Starting point is 01:39:43 And I don't know if it's, we haven't been able to determine if it's Andrew Divoff in this suit. or if it's somebody else, but the shot, like the effect shot that they have of the actor standing in the gin costume while all of these souls are supposedly like coming out of his chest or whatever, the actor is just standing there barely reacting. And I was like, were you doing this on like a day that was running late and everybody was upset and nobody wanted to try? Because like they're just standing there totally still and it's like, boop. You do want to be like, you know this is the end of your movie, right? Because even the last shot is ridiculous, which is like they go, it's like basically everybody goes away. You don't even see like, there's no like five months later with her and Gregory. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 01:40:28 It's just, you show the gin cooling his heels and the gem and he kind of like shoes the camera way. Wait, you're still here. The movie is over. I've never been a believer in isms. I'm trying to take a shower. Can't you see all the fun shampoo I have in my hair? Now, Cameron, wouldn't you want to wish for a good day off? Wouldn't you want to wish for a father who doesn't hate you, Cameron?
Starting point is 01:40:57 Oh, Jeannie, don't you wish to be Charlie Sheen's girlfriend? Oh, yeah. Just go to any high school and talk to all the males in the senior classes say, do you want to fuck her? Do you wish to fuck her? Yeah, okay, you wish to fuck her? Yeah. That would be the grossest two days of the Jin's life. It's just like, oh, Jesus. But he'd get the numbers.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I'm watching all these stupid idiots trying to have sex and they're terrible at it. Oh, really, for five seconds, you still, you know what? I'm benefiting, so I'm not going to say anything. All right, I'm going to, you know what, I'm done with the guys. I'm going to go talk to horse girl. Horse. Oh, yep, you want a horse. There you go.
Starting point is 01:41:34 You got a fucking horse. Oh, my God. What is she doing with it? I regret granting that wish. Okay, all right. Listen, guys, the cast of the event. have already had sex with each other four times.
Starting point is 01:41:50 I cannot do it any longer. Oh, dude, that's the key. That's the key, Steve. You cracked it open. Message board wishes. Oh, dude, forget about it. Oh, fuck. Let me talk to the Gap kids. What do you want?
Starting point is 01:42:03 Oh, okay. Well, that's easy. I'm sorry, Benedict Cumberbatch cannot actually have sex with Robert Downey Jr. He's already now married to Martin Freeman. As per Mary's wish, sorry Elizabeth, listen let's just form an orderly line here. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh, the members of BTS kiss again. Oh, man. Only 300 to go. This is just, it's texting. So, yeah, it just, it's him and the little, the jewel again, and he just yells at the camera
Starting point is 01:42:40 and that's the end of the movie. It's amazing. It's such a dumb ending. I love it. Like, don't fucking yell at me. gin, it's not my fault. You got locked up. No wish, master. You know, when my father comes home, we're just going to have to have to have a little chat. Don't you wish the Miles would roll
Starting point is 01:42:55 back, Cameron? Oh, I see you want to be Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago. Well, you shall be Abe Roman. And it's like this weird sausage man. Oh, my God. With a crown?
Starting point is 01:43:11 Looks like a garbage pail kid. Exactly. Yeah, Jeffrey Jones. I don't want to grant your wish. Uh, pass. That is a Mulligan, wish again. It's not worth it, honestly. Listen, part of my dealer's choice rules is everyone's 18 plus and it's cool, so sorry. No, I will not scrape your name off of who's your caddy.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Would anybody recommend this movie? We'll start with you, Steve Saneh. It's a full-throat I'd recommend. The first one's probably a little bit better. I do think, like, obviously, the horror cameos in the first one are a lot of fun and the bookends of two huge carnage scenes as opposed to just one. This movie could have some more kills, but div-off is just having a fucking ball. So it turns into a coin flip as to which one I like more.
Starting point is 01:44:05 It's so much fun to watch this guy do this role. It's tremendous. A full-throat I recommend. Eric Sisko. I am exactly saying what Steve is. I think the, you know, maybe the first one is a better movie. I don't remember. The last time I watched it was 2018.
Starting point is 01:44:21 I kind of want to go back now because this movie was such a fucking thrill ride. I loved every second of it almost. Chris Cabby. Oh, yeah, big time. This is fun as hell. I actually liken it a lot to the species one, species two thing. The first one's more of a movie. The second one's funner.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah, yeah, I can see that. It's just a lot more fun than I love all this. even the fucking priest Greg shit, which was taxing, but like, the rest of it is pretty good. Yeah, I mean, I'm really struggling here. I mean, I'm going to recommend it for sure. But, like, it's a weird thing. You know, I kind of feel like, you know, but football on the groin had a football in the groin. Like, like, the part one has way less div off.
Starting point is 01:45:06 This movie is letting him tap dance all over the screen and it's fucking great. But the tradeoff is fewer cool gin kills, I feel, if you counted it. up and then also like I am sorry but this priest character is not needed like I don't need this fucking team of explorers like just let this lady figure it out maybe that guy's
Starting point is 01:45:27 in like one scene or whatever but the fact that he's getting fucking crucified in the gin dimension in the final act of this movie is a bit much like this dude did not need to be holding her hand the whole time and he's not written well either he doesn't add anything it just does
Starting point is 01:45:43 not matter so like every time he was on screen. I was like, where is the gin? Like, this is killing me. And all the undoing the deaths and shit, I'm also docking points, but I still totally recommend it. I want to, but I feel like you got to watch two of them. Yes. I want
Starting point is 01:45:59 another divoff fucking wishmaster, man. That's what I want. And you know what? Fucking just like reboot it or whatever, like, I would be totally game for it. It's crazy how much Andrew Divoff has been in the early goings of season 11 here on We Hate Movies. But like, this dude rules the
Starting point is 01:46:15 fucking school man and like we just found out he sometimes works with a brewery in california making fucking gin related beer like this dude rocks and i cannot wait to hang out yes i would love that i would we should come on the show we should do like a uh like like ask him some questions about his career i mean he's had an amazing when he's been in a ton of movies he can speak a dozen languages he'll blend in disappear or oh shit we do a fucking wishmaster to script reading at like a show at some point and special guest Andrew Divoff doing the gym. I would love that. Dibs I'm not playing the priest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:55 I'll probably the lawyer that fucks himself. I'll be the priest. That is Wishmaster 2. Evil Never Dies from 99 directed by Jack Shalder. If you would like more We Hate Movies, head over to patreon.com slash we hate movies where this month's we love movies spook-tucular selection is an episode, full-length episode on Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. We had a lot
Starting point is 01:47:23 of fun with that. If you are catching up on spook-2-kular episodes, last week, we welcome back, Powell the show. Vulture writer, Angelica Jade Bastien, to talk about species 2, which was a lot of fun. What the fuck was the one before that? Final Destination 2. And we also
Starting point is 01:47:39 should be releasing by the end of this month an Evil Dead 2 commentary track. Oh, yeah. And we also got our good friend Charlie Brown in the barrel for animation damnation. Good grief. It's a great pumpkin, Charlie Brown. Great episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Absolutely. That's a lot of fun. We got the Deathwash Mandalions over on the Glebe Glossary getting us pumped up for Mando season two. Which we will be podcasting every week about yet again, just what we did last year. So catch up on those apps and get hyped for this season. Yeah. Absolutely. Now, as always, here on We Hate Movies next Tuesday, a brand new episode is right around the corner. And I believe, sadly, already, it is the final episode of the spook-tookulars, Steve Sadek. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:48:25 Do you want to play a game? We're going to play Saw 2. Oh, yeah. I believe this is the introduction to Donnie Wahlberg's character in this franchise cabinet. My first time going through it next week. I'll let you know. I think mine, too. I've seen like parts of these sequels on TV, but I've only ever really saw the first one all the way through because I really did. did not care for the premise. Ditto. Cabin, you saw all of them for a piece you wrote 100 years ago, right? Yes, I've seen them all.
Starting point is 01:48:52 It's really weird. This is, I mean, this is Donnie Wahlberg anchoring a movie, so you get what you're, what you see there, buddy. So, yeah, I, I've seen like one through five or so, but they all, I was watching him on a bad bootleg and they were all just blending together. I couldn't tell you up from down in these movies. I just remember Danny Glover's in the first one and Donnie Walprix in this.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Which, by the way, saw a previous episode if you want to catch up for the next two edition of this. Yes, that's right. I forgot we did an episode on Saw 100 years ago. That's also a bad movie, so that's why we would do it. So until next week with Saw 2, I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Jindek.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Eric Wish, Chris Cabin. Take it easy. We all go a little mad sometimes. You know, it's Halloween. I guess everyone's a dash on a good scare. Sometimes, that is better. That is better. Zombies have entered the building.
Starting point is 01:50:00 They're at the door. They're coming in. It is time to keep your appointment. Does it come out of command? They're coming to get you, Barbara. Having to get you, Bob. He's sick for Foxy. She won't too many.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Now, sit! Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos. More creative! What's the fucking love? You're an excellent day for an excellent day. It's an excellent day for an exit.
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