We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 519 - Fargo

Episode Date: December 8, 2020

On this week's WLM episode, the gang is chatting about the Coen Brothers classic, Fargo! How perfect is the dive bar at the beginning? Has Buscemi ever been better? And can John Carroll Lynch make us some eggs? PLUS: What if the Kool-Aid Man was from Fargo? Fargo stars Frances McDormand, William H. Macy, Steve Buscemi, Peter Stormare, Harve Presnell, John Carroll Lynch, Steve Reevis, Larry Brandenburg, and Steve Park as Mike Yanagita; directed by Joel Coen. WHM is donating 100% of our 2020 merch income to causes fighting for racial justice. For more information on how you can pitch in, head over to our website. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this week on the program oh gosh gee gosh oh geez oh i don't know it's fargo i'm andrew jupin steven eric siska and chris cabin and we love movies Hello, everyone, welcome to the second week of our we love movies extravaganza here at the ass end of the shit year 2020. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, geez. This is a real fucked up year, eh? we're talking of course Fargo from the grand year of 1996 directed by well it's the Cowan Brothers movie

Joel Cohen directed it but the Cowan Brothers you all know them you all love them and this is one of the best one of the best see Brothers movies I'd say it's my favorite as I said at the end of the last episode

when they do this thing where they can't be credited does like Ethan Cohen have to wear like an Emperor Palpatine kind of cloak and just kind of like give Joel some extra direction kind of good thing? Oh, the phantom director. Yeah, you know what I think it might be because

they're so stingy about like on set photos and stuff while they're working and I think the reason is because that, you know, Joel Cohen as a director is just him sitting on Ethan's shoulders and they've got a trench coat around them. Got it. And that's how

they direct the movies. Yeah, you know Joel Cohen is nine feet tall. pretty interesting. Actually, I don't know, Kevin. You ever see those Cohen brothers in person, man? I think two on top of each other like that. That's just like an average heighted individual.

Joel Cohen's a little bit of a string bean. Ethan Cohen is definitely like five foot flat, but like Joel Cohen, I think has a little height. Yeah, I think so. Okay, okay. Either way, it's funny to imagine them in a trench coat. It is. It's fun to think about.

It is fun to think about. All right. So it's it's a it's a it's a ladder match a what do you call it there a tag team ladder match it's yes Duffer brothers versus the Cohen brothers what do you I mean the Duffer brothers got the youth but the the Cone brothers got the experience you know true yeah I think the Cohn brothers would be more likely to have an ally come out from the crowd with a chair and fuck my god it's Sam Raby yes exactly that Sam Raby's music stop the damn match he's shooting it with web shooters by God

it can't be. No, it's Quentin Tarantino back from the dead. He got buried in the casket match last, last Cinnomania. Oh, no, it's the Duffer brothers army and children. Oh, no, that's, that crawling all over, I'm scratching their eyes out. Army of shit. That's what they have over there, right? My God, it's that Barry Sonnenfeld's music. Oh, my God. No, he's a fucking talent manager at that point, man. He's not swinging any chair. Well, that's, you know, he comes out. He pretends. He's part, you know, he's just the talent manager, but he's like, he's got the salt that he throws in people's eyes kind of a thing. Oh, you're right. His little velvet pouch of salt. Barry Sondonfeld's velvet pouch of salt. Is this his, the first movie? He didn't shoot for them after the three first ones? I think so. I don't think he shot this movie. No, this is deacons. Yeah. But he shot Sunnfeld shot Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, and Billers Crossing. Wow, I knew he did Blood Simple. I thought that was it, though.

Should have stayed a DP. Yeah, I don't like a lot of that guy's movies, although I like some of them. I like Men in Black and Get Shorty. Good movies. I was out to dinner with a guy that I worked with. Barry Sondonfeld? No, but his ex-wife, he stole his wife from Barry Sondonfeld. So he tells it, yeah.

What are they go, dude. Oh, wow, eat shit, Sondonfell. It wasn't that hard. I've got to be honest with it. I mean, have you seen the guy? She didn't even say she was married. I mean, you know, where to begin with a movie like Fargo? I got somewhere to begin.

Sure, do it up, dude. Go ahead. This is a true story. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred. Yeah, John, it's Joel. Could you just, like, be a little bit more miserable, please? I need to be a little bit more miserable delivering all that.

You know, the last time I did this, I got paid in weed. I know how Toby works. I know, but no. Just to walk everybody through, this is John Laracette reading the opening title card to Fargo, which is not read. Right. That's correct. Yeah.

If you look at it, it feels like a Texas chainsaw masker thing. And I think the genius of this movie, I mean, there's a lot of genius of this movie, but putting that title card up there and people like being suckered into that being a being this is obviously not true. Yeah. I mean, I remember though the first time, because I saw this movie. I don't know. Let's say like early high school like rented it on VHS. Like I was totally fool. Because it's one of those things where it's like, well, why would they lie to me? Because when you see those things in movies, it's like, all right. Yeah, okay. I feel like this, like, being, like, such a big 90s movie is what informed, like, the Blair Witch Projects ad campaign a little bit. I know that, yeah, totally. Also, other horrors have done shit like that.

Like, we were just referencing Texas chainsaw, but it's like, it's almost became like a 90s thing of, like, oh, that movie's real. Well, they picked from, like, real stuff, but, like, it's not, the crime of the foot going into the, what's it called? Woodchipper? Woodchipper. like that was from a case but it has nothing to do with minnesota and it happened around the time they were writing this and i mean i think it's a thing it's a thing where like it's just sort of like it's so it's like stranger than fiction kind of a thing like it feels like a true story because everybody it just so bonk want you know wonky and like the way that the people act kind of a thing yeah yeah no i i i totally see that i mean it's it's just yeah it's that combination of like there's all of these you know influences from stories of like it's too

who, it's like almost too weird to write kind of a thing. Yeah. Which is, I mean, it's also like the Cohen brothers bread and butter in that way. Although I will say, I think Marge, I think Marge Gofferson is her, Gunderson is probably their best character, period. Yes. Like she may be the, and these are guys who have made some of the best characters of the last, what, three decades of movies. Yeah. And this is the one that always sticks with me more than any of the other ones.

it's so interesting because like she I was actually just watching a featurette before we signed up sick because I got the Blu-ray to watch this and throw that Blu-ray money around I got that featurette money I got that $14 dude I was going to say this Fargo Blu-ray way you got fucking $799

at Target dude look at you so but it was your friends of McDormand talking about A how she doesn't come in through half the movie which is interesting I timed it actually good call Steve 33 minutes And B, how, you know, when they were shooting the movie, they really thought it was going to be Busemi and it was going to be the Bucemi and what do you call it their Stramar movie?

You know what I mean? It's going to be this movie about these cool hitmen. They're going to be the thing that really sticks with you because it was always like, and their performance were so great, et cetera, like that the set was really buzzy about them. And then it just turned out to this thing where like what you think about, what you think about this movie is either her or William H. M. One of the other.

She's at odds. with the worldview of the Coens, it seems. Yes. That's a big thing. I think everybody, almost every other character is settled into the world of the Coens. That's a good call. She's a character that doesn't seem to fit in the body of

work. And not just in this movie, like she doesn't yeah, she's like an antithetical Cohen Brothers character. What's interesting about her too is like she doesn't bring any of that shit home with her. Like once she gets home like the bloody world of the Coens is outside the door and that

That's fine. I'm going to go watch TV and go to sleep. Exactly. I'm going to cuddle up with John Carroll Lynch and talk about his stamp contest. I love this. That detail. And just him in general is like a warm bath. Like what a what a fucking teddy bear of a dude. I want him to be my husband. I would like John Carroll Lynch to be my husband. And he looks like a husband from Minnesota or from Brainerd rather. But like he does have that like that's what's so great about John Carroll Lynch is he does have that every man quality to him. I mean, I've been saying this on this show, I think, off and on for the entire 10 years we've been on the air, but he is, when you're talking about like underrated actors, I feel like John Carroll Lynch is the dude that, like, I want to make the thing that gets him an Academy Award. You know what I mean? Like, he's that fucking good, man. Should have been Zodiac, dude. He should have been Zodiac. No, it should have been in Zodiac. Oh, oh, oh, I see what you're saying. Yes. He should have also been the Zodiac killer in real life, though. That's what I think. Also, that would be nice.

You'd be a very gentle guy. Like, I'm sorry, I'm doing this. I'm really sorry. I want him to kill me. John Carroll Lynch, so great, I want him to kill me. I'm sorry, Eric. I really like, I know you're a fan and everything, but yeah, yeah, here. I do love, and she is very different than the rest of them.

And there is like this, and that's maybe why I like this movie, maybe I do like this be more than the rest of the au revoir, is that it's like there's a lot of hopefulness in there. It's got all the grim, Coen brothers. shit that you want, but there are notes of, like, hope and niceness and, like, in warmth that actually makes it a little more balanced

for me. She's still surprised by the world a little bit. Yes. Everybody else has kind of accepted it. She's still surprised by these little things and, like, kind of sees the real actual sadness of it all. Well, and that's what's great about the little speech that she gives

at the end when she's driving Peter Storm Erin after she arrests him, right? It's like, she just saw this dude uh fucking shoving a leg in a wood chipper and then like you know had to shoot him down because he was running away from her and everything and like you can tell that she still legitimately feels sorry for this guy yes and isn't like judging him in the way that you would see a cop normally in a movie this fucking piece of shit right you know she's just like it's such a nice day outside and you went and did this and that just doesn't make sense to me just for a little bit of money like

how silly it's like the world of this violence and insanity it's just it's at its heart it's it's stupid yeah and it is and i mean like that's sort of what you know you see that in how dirt stupid william h macy is and how dirt stupid uh uh carl showalter is steve bushemi by the way is this the best movie to me anyway it's it's the best friend's mcdorm movie it's the best william h macy movie it's the best steve bouchemi movie and that's saying something i to me anyway. I'd have to question some of those, but yeah, but it would be definitely in top three contention every time. Which is just crazy. And it's, and it's also one of the, at least one of the best Cohen brothers movies. So it's like just, it's this huge conflagration of like things that

I love at their best. It's probably also the best Peter's Storm Air movie. Oh, yes. No, you're totally right. I mean, Constantine. Oh, oh, oh, oh, Constantine. Bad Boys 2. Oh, brothers grim. Cosmonaut and the Armageddon. Oh, right. So do you think Michael Bay liked Fargo so much that he cast both Buscemi and Peter Stormer? You have to. I think Michael Bay saw Fargo as like, that's the movie I can never make. Fuck. Let me just get some people associated with it, though.

Yeah, like he really picked over the Cohen Brothers over their cast list always shows up in Michael Bay movies. Has William H. Macey been in a Michael Bay movie? I feel like he has to have been, right? I feel like he could have been like a government official in something. I don't know. I don't know for sure. But he's been strapped to the shameless rock for 44 years at the cliffs of fucking God knows where he's not allowed out. Showtime Mordor.

I mean, but like that's the thing is they do this like sardonic, skeptical, cynical maybe viewpoint so well because they're never, they never see the cool of it. It's always stupid. It's always undermined by their humanity. And that's a contrast. with like, you know, this is what, 96, so the Tarantino knockoffs were in full effect, Pulp Fiction was just two years prior, and Steve Busemi was in Reservoir Dogs, and that whole, like, coolness of crime is subverted here, really, to be dumb.

Big time, yeah, there's no, like, we're walking in slow motion with sunglasses on in this movie. One thing, this is how we can start getting into the action movie is this is a movie of some of the most fantastic dive bars and garbage, like Nebraska bar, like, We'rewolf bars as well. All kinds. Like just you little hopping into these little like wood panel bars. Chris, I would sell both of your eyes to go to the king of clubs. I would sell both of them.

Got to catch me first. The king of clubs is our first location here. After some very like creepy snow footage of William H. Macy driving the car, you know, towing the other car that he's giving to them, you know, and the fucking music here. very Cohen's the use of music here. Carter Burwell, their partnership with him all time. Like as far as music,

working with a conductor like that, I don't know who else has this kind of relationship. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like the swells of orchestration here. Clint Eastwood and himself. I like a lot of Clint Eastwood scores. I just don't like the movies they're in. Man, but this old bastard bar

is so, so nice. And again, you know, Cohen brothers is also amazing at casting extras in general. Like you look at any of their movies, their extras are doing a lot of like lifting in the background. Like they should be like they're almost a step. They establish the location so well. I'm also coming to mind thinking of like, oh, brother, we're art down. Everyone in that looks like they belong to the period. Absolutely.

And I thought about that here too. Because when William H. Macy walks into the bar, Stormair and Bouchemi are like sitting in the back. And when he comes into the front of the establishment, you have to look past all of these like regular degular barfly dudes and they I mean everything about this is perfect the fucking like they're still in like snow suits while they're playing pool bad trucker hats warm beers on the pool table you know there's the gambling desk as soon as you walk in right to your right like you're not being seated by those people that's where you put your cards for the lotto oh is that what that was I totally miss that and like what's the pick six or whatever you do on the TV. Oh, what is that called? I used to be obsessed with that at the bar. No, it's, um, quick, quick draw. Quick draw. Thank you. Yes. I lost a lot of money on quick draw, man. Is that right? Oh, yeah. I don't know why. That bar was 63 years old. We used to go to this bar and I would just gamble at it.

Oh, the hilltop. Yes. I would go there and I would just like, I mean, like, you know, I need my numbers to come up. Where are my numbers? Right. Daddy needs another Guinness. You used to have to wear a sport coat. go to that bar now. Yeah, and now you could do it with your pants off. Well, that bar did burn down. It did. Yeah, no, but yeah, I love it.

I love the detail of they've got all these beers in front of, he's an hour late. There's a misunderstanding. Carl Schoelalter, a captain of the Millennium Falcon. My first mate, Stry, Mayor. You want someone kidnapped? Yes, I'm a Swedish Chewbacca.

Oh, pancake house. Pancake house. I love. Gare Grimsrud is his name or some shit. It's so good. Whatever it is. I love the detail that he's pissed. Like, he's like throwing it in Macy's face.

He peed three times already. Like this guy had to break the fucking seal. We've been waiting so long. I've been here sitting in silence. Do you know what this being with this guy is like? That is the best detail between the two of them is just Peter's stormer refusing to talk to him and it drives bouchemmy crazy i love it because he's just i mean because bouchemy is always playing these motor mouth characters so like obviously a dude like that

not getting that reciprocation in the conversation would drive him insane and storm air is kind of like a proto anton chigar a bit yep yes oh yeah good call dude especially when he grabs that state trooper by the hair and shoots him in the head exactly mentioned we did it an episode on no country for old men earlier this year on our patreon you know what's interesting about this is because we just watched no country not too long ago like i think no country is exactly the movie everybody wanted them to make after this instead they went and made lobowski but that's the thing remember big labowski had a huge backlash when it came out oh yeah like nobody wanted to see it because it wasn't a cool crime movie

right like so but like now it's considered one of their best and like no country would have been exactly what they would have wanted after this and i mean but that's what's interesting that it's good that they didn't do that. It took a decade to get back to it. That's right. I mean, because you, I was looking at their filmography last night and like, yeah, after this, you know, they hit Lobowski and then it just goes on this totally

different jag. And they're not the crime guys. What was after Loboski? Was that the man who wasn't there? I think it's O'Brother in 2000 is what they did after Lelbowski. Right, right. Now, O'Brother was such a

hit and like such a comedy caper type of thing. I love them just going the opposite direction and doing that weird moody fucking Billy Bob Thornton movie, which I do love. It's amazing movie. I got to go back to that one. That's one I've not seen a very long time. God tear Gandalfini. Just

like some of the best work he ever did. Yeah. And then yeah, they just, they sort of, their early 2000s after men who wasn't there isn't great because that was the back-to-back intolerable cruelty and then the lady killers.

Yeah, nobody wanted those movies. I still think, and maybe I'm wrong, like, they're not good, but I feel like if anyone else directed it, if it was like a first time filmmaker, we would be singing its praises in a bit, like, oh, it's, it's Cohen Brothers ask or something. Oh, what, intolerable? Or lady killers. Like, if either of those came out of anywhere but here, I feel like the reception would have been a little bit warmer than it was.

I think you're probably right, because, I mean, I just feel like after man who wasn't there, I mean, that run of, I mean, Jesus, I was saying that run, but just looking at the filmography, the run is from 1984 until 2001, you know, so like, it's just a slew of good movies, and then you get to intolerable cruelty, which was like slightly lesser. And I think you're right, Eric, it was just we were expecting Cohen quality. So like a little. I've turned that movie off twice. I can't, I can't join your gentleman on this part. But, but yeah. So, and then, you know, no country was like that's the super return to form and that was fucking three years after lady

killers funny enough serious man i love they they returned back to the midwest which is an awesome awesome that's still i haven't seen that movie i've come yeah i've come to the opinion that it was the run from blood simple to man who wasn't there a two movie breather and then the it was another run to me i think everything from no country on has been either very good or great Oh, you know, I've been so infatuated with our buddies to co and I forgot to do something. Can I hit you play real quick? Hey there.

I'm Gary Bucci. To you Happy anniversary People chicken Happy anniversary To you People chicken Happy anniversary

Happy anniversary chicken. See the chicken? That's pretty good. Oh, look at that. You might have noticed the theme song for this, or I won't say theme song, but you may have noticed the audio cue was not the usual coming soon. That was, was that Gary Busey?

actually Gary Busey. This is not a joke. That was Gary Bucy. This was thanks to the Muldoon's basement. An offshoot of Muldoon's pub Facebook groups that follow the show that we love, that

they got together and put some money together and got Gary Bucce on cameo. They fucking jumped us, guys. They fucking jumped us. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe it. Now Bucie's out of the running. But we greatly appreciate they did it as a 10 years thing. And I guess we should say, I mean, this week, that this episode

is airing, I mean, this is the 10th anniversary week of We Hate Movies. 10 years. That's a lot. That's a lot. I've done, there's not a lot of things that I've done for 10 years straight. Pooping, yes, definitely.

Masturbied 25 and a half, maybe. Okay. Two and a half decades there. Yeah, there you go. dude thank you very much wait wait is wait no this is the so this is a game where you masturbate and we give you points right yes exactly it's like that's exactly right dude you know we're looking at things like form uh you know uh time pacing is huge pacing is very big yes i would play party quirks uh soundtrack

up and the next group now it's like the national dog show it's the edging group all right so okay we've got the lubers next oh yeah think about this like yeah like dude like naked dudes with erections walking around in a circle while like some lady pulls him on a leash and like touches their nuts that is 100% of movie somewhere i'm telling you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you remember that erudite conversation we were having about the coad brothers filmography in five minutes ago that was cool yeah though and that's that's you know what that's a great point steve thank you for uh highlighting the fact that Things on We Hate Movies can just slip away sometimes.

Anyway, yes, slip away. This is a game. Let's get to the game. I'm sorry for interrupting. No, no, you're fine. This is the VHS trailer game, America's favorite game involving obsolete materials. Fun fact here, I had to cheat because A,

which you'll find out. It's always been a cheat with you. The Batman Mask of the Fantasim episode. I thought that I was going to have a trailer, but I didn't. And then on Fargo, I get my tape out. There's no fucking trailer. What? So what I did was I went on YouTube and I found that if you just type in like VHS trailers for movies that were attached to movies, you will get them for the most part.

And Fargo, there was a UK edition of Fargo that had trailers on it. And I'm talking, this was released by Polygram Entertainment. So we're talking indie stuff you do not remember. Oh, this is going to be a tough one. Get your indie hats on. Steve, if you had to get these from a UK like VHS. rep is it like coming soon to theaters pretty but no it's it's it's actually it's weird because there's like real deal like commercials in it like like there's a kind of almost racist uh Levi's jeans

commercial wow other things and then the oh you go how it's it racist though well it's like it's it's about like two guys on a chain gang and one guy's an african-american gentleman and like dogs are chasing a little boy yeah exactly that's that's cool yeah this is not sexy look at what america's like but the jeans are cheeky exactly the uh but speaking of cheekiness the end of it is this guy it's a sketch practically and it's this guy like all right five dollars five dollars for a movie or five quid for a movie's like i mate you sold me a movie last week and the sound was terrible oh really yeah that's because that was trained spot and you can't understand what they're saying he's like

no no the track was rubbish and the picture was bad too it's like you'll never know with pirated videos what quality you're gonna get wow it is it's kind of worth watching i mean i'll post the leg uh that's pretty you got to stiff through 17 minutes okay so three three trailers as you understand i'm gonna give everyone five clues uh the first uh decreasing in in point order there and i'll i'll say that every time and once one of you guesses within that round you are out for that round so if you guess on the first one the rest the four clues that we go through which we might go through all five this time around you will be out for so keep that in mind ladies and it's uh it's going to be a buzzer system so i have to get my uh have to look at

the chat room here raising of the hand okay okay here we go all right so the first clue and i remember this like just keep in mind this is like 96 97 indieish movie kind of a place. And is this just a regular clue or is this the game master's clue for five was jame master. No it's not jame that was a misspeak that the internet just loves so much when I fuck up. I got a lot of I got a lot to do here guys I got a lot to fucking do tomato tomato game master J master. This is going great game master's clue for five points a pre-L-A confidential LA confidential led by one of W.H.M.'s

Favorite Impressions. Hmm. Hmm. Fuck. All right. No takers? I mean, it's... Give me a second.

It's not just L.A. Confidential as, like, that wasn't a remake. No, no, no, no, yeah. It's an L.A. Confidential-esque film. Motion picture, yeah. Led by one of W.H.M.'s favorite impressions. Can I ask questions at all? Not, not yet. Okay.

all right what's what's your question chris is it a period piece in that or do you just mean in that it's about detectives i will i will give you guys it is a period piece okay hmm i got nothing okay uh so now for four points jack nicholson was offered the role of chief bill parker he declined but recommended bruce durn for the part recommended bruce durn for the part but doesn't necessarily mean that bruce dern is in this movie is this lone star uh you are incorrect sir cabin is out sit down sit down uh i mdb tagline three for three points this isn't america

this is los angeles oh for some reason that kind of rang a bell but oh man you weren't kidding stees the top all right uh star number two this for two points chris pen Oh, now I can see the goddamn video cover. I know. Oh, crap. Shit. I'm just going to keep taunting you guys and see if you guys make a mistake too. I don't think I'm going to get it. This is, and the favorite W.H. impression was Bruce Stern.

Is that what you're saying? No, for one point, this is for one point. Still one, one clue left. The star of the film is named. Nick Nolty. Uh, yep. You know what the movie is you just don't know to the title. Yeah, I can see.

I'm looking right at that goddamn cover. Eric has raised his hand. I'm just going to guess it's going to be wrong. Uh, Mahon Falls. That is one point for Eric Sisko. Whoa. Holy shit. I think, Andrew, you mentioning the VHS cover in the, and I was like, I remember it.

Can I pull it? Can I pull it? Wow, good job, dude. That doesn't stay two to the half. It's got the fattest cast imaginable. fucking, like, it's Nick Nolte, Chris Penn, Michael Madsen. Isn't John Malcovich the bad guy? John Malcovich is the bad guy.

Jennifer Connolly is involved. Wow. It is, yeah, it's like, LA confidential though like bruisers, but then stuff goes on. The atom bomb plays very heavily in it. The bomb is involved. Man, I've always just I haven't like avoided Mahalovas.

I've just never seen it. And now that I know that the bomb is involved. It's Danny Baldwin's in it as well, I think. Possibly. I'm almost positive. Yeah, you'll find Daniel Baldwin at the bottom of a cast like that, I bet. All right. So moving on around two.

This one's also tough. Okay. Awesome. Game Master's Clue for five points. A Gen X age gap love story that centers around a boarding school. Ooh. Cradle robbing, huh? A little bit, something, something.

Granny shagging? Yeah. I cannot confirm we're denying. granny shagging that's Andrew uh are we talking oh fuck the crush no wrong damn it uh huh all right uh do we want to move on to the next clue let's yeah let's do another clue after tribune trivia after multiple cuts and dubbing out of language the film went from an r rating to a pg 13 the lead actress was very disappointed in the final cut of the film and did not promote

when it was released. She also had issues with the last minute title change from the girl you want. Circle of Friends. Incorrect. It's going to be Eric Siska sweeping out here. I mean, I'm not going to get it right. You don't have to guess right now if you don't want to. Sure. Let's do another clue. I mean, I'll go

for bottom points and everything. I have TV tagline. No one stays innocent forever. I'm going to guess this is not going to be right riding in cars with boys Oh you're so close It is just boys

With Lucas Hass and Wadota Ryder I wouldn't have known it Yeah okay Yeah because Lucas Hoss would be the next clue That might have given it to you But that's it so that's done Now the third and final round Of this indie volume

Of the VHS trailer game Fucking brutal Uh Game Master's Clue Nominated for five Oscars including Best Picture, an English dromedy that explores class and racial divides. Oh, God. Where did you get that one from? That's my game master's clue, my friend.

English dromedy, you're saying? Dramity is the word. Five Oscar nominations. Didn't win a single one. Think about the 97, 98 or maybe even the 99 Oscars. I don't know how that worked. Late 90s Oscars, English. movies, dromedies, racial divides.

Racial divides, eh? Okay, we're gonna move on to Tribune, trivia, which is not gonna help you, but is hilarious. Members of the Heaven's Gate cult went to see this movie shortly before their mass suicide. What? What?

Oh man, and you know what, dude? I kind of feel like at the time of Heaven's Gate, I remember that they definitely reported this because that like them seeing a movie has like vague recollections and this this movie drove them to suicide i think i think that they were like oh fuck the hell bob comments coming sooner than we thought we just saw this movie oh man um i am okay i am dby tagline rucksan drives her mother crazy maurice never speaks to his niece cynthia has a shock for her father monica can't talk to her husband hortense has never met her mother oh

God. The British. I probably have an idea of what directors it might be, but I'm not grasping anything here. So can you say the first clue again, Steve? The nominated for five Oscars, including Best Picture, an English dramedy that explores

class and racial divides. Romody. Okay. You got to raise your hand. I've got to get it. This is Chris Cabin. Is this four weddings and a funeral? It is not for wedding in a funeral. See, that's what I was kind of leaning

towards cabin, but I was like, ah. I think that's earlier. I think that's an earlier. Yeah, that is a little earlier in the day. All right, star number one. Okay. Timothy Spall. Man.

Oh, God damn it. I knew Chris would be pissed. Timothy Spall. God, I feel like, is this like a fucking Mike Lee movie I'm not thinking of? I was thinking that or Stephen Frayers or something, but. Oh, yeah. Last clue here, guys. Uh-huh.

Brenda Blevon. Oh, God. It's not a clue. Yeah, that's a fucking riddle. I do know what it is, though. Fuck. Fuck it. God damn it.

It's another zero, man. I can't think of it. Not even a guess. Just think, throw out a British movie you remember for the 90s, maybe being nominated for an Oscar. It was very big. It was a big move.

See, all the stuff I'm thinking of, I know is too late. God, the 90s. uh all right i'm just gonna give oh uh andrews buzzed in topsy-turvy no correct all right i'll buzz in for no reason nodding hill nope secrets and lies ladies and gentlemen uh oh yeah michley it's a mike yeah okay yeah and you know what here's a bonus round for five points if any the first person to buzz in and correctly tell me what the fuck this movie is we'll get five points. Moonlight and Valentino, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, Chris Cabin. That's a John Bon Jovi

is a carpenter and a bunch of like women are hanging out together. Yep, that's correct. Yep. That's five points for cabin. What the fuck. Sudden, sudden fucking bonus round. Just throwing points out. I didn't even think I was paying attention. All right. You know what? I'll dock Chris all the way down to three because he's in the lead. That's fair. Wow. That was, I feel like I just got my ass. King. Elizabeth Perkins is in that one? She is Elizabeth. What is this movie? It's just, they're all like, it's a bunch of like

big actresses from the 90s like hanging out and like in a house and John Bon Jovi is fixing the house and they're all they're all in like in love with him. And it's called what? Moonlight and Valentino. Moonlight and Valentino. That was. There's other movies too that I just did. Heaven's Prisoners was on here.

I couldn't even begin to make a clue for that. Oh man. Heaven's Prisoners is bad. That's Alec Baldwin doing like a detective in New Orleans movie. Yes, exactly. Oh, is he doing a big crawdad accent? He does have a really bad accent in it, yes. Anyway, so I just wanted to let everybody know. So that's where we're at. Yeah, so that was tough, Steve. Where do we stand on the point system? Okay, I'm going to get to you right now. It is Andrew currently right now has 19 points. Eric has 11. Jesus, fuck. Chris has 26 and the guests who are only Angelica have five points.

Wow. So that's it. So you're beating the guess, Eric, for sure. Okay, yeah. Wonderful. You keep getting those one pointers, dude. You're going to really, you're going to fucking sweep this thing. God, that was like when the VHS trailer game curb stomps here.

It was a tough one, dude. All right. So Fargo, we're at the king of clubs. Yes. That's right. The first scene of the movie. Yeah, so I mean, you know, this is, he's setting up the whole thing. Bill Macy has hired these guys to kidnap his wife trying to extort money from his father-in-law

because he doesn't believe that the father-in-law is going to go for this parking lot pitch idea. Oh, yeah, burnt umber Sierra right there in the parking lot. Oh, yeah. Thank you. These are the worst cars I've ever seen in my life. Dude, it is garbage. Top to bottom. Like, why would you buy a car that's the same color as a raisin?

dude. It looks like a turd on the road. A big steel turd. These are the worst cars in cinema. But they are exactly what these characters would have. That's what I love about them. It fits. It totally fits. Late 80s

American trash. Yep. Just these gross ass boxy cars colored like terns for some reason. Man, it is just shitty. You ever you ever just see a car driving down the road and it's like the absolute worst color for a car and you're like what were they thinking you wouldn't believe the car i saw driving down the

road the other day is that right to make this longer make a car cast here um but no i saw like an old probably like a late 80s pickup truck and they had like done their own bedazzling to it where they they broke numerous mirrors and made like these mirror strips on it is that even legal that's what i was thinking because i was like i was like driving behind it and i'm like seeing my headlights in And I'm like, what the fuck happens at night? Do I get blinded? Seriously, they're going to be like beaming people off the road left and right. Is this guy hanging out his window saying, yeah, take a look at yourself first.

You ought to judge me, motherfucker. Look at you. He sounds like he's the right kind of crazy. I think this guy's cool now. Yeah, I like to see Jerry Lendergarde do his magic selling this guy that fucking car with the true code on it. oh you're gonna want that true code and this guy is calling this guy you're a you're a fucking liar please the wife like bucky please you're a god damn liar like he's like this is like too vulgar the whole like niceness of the midwest

is interesting that they explore in this movie it is so fun like it's all that tension here where this guy does want to rip him to shreds also like the idea of like having to be a car sales but this is how you make your money you have to do these upsells and yes you get into the, like, it's just perfect for Jerry Lendergarde to just be belittled immediately by this dude. Absolutely. And it's, I mean, and it's such a scum-fuck move. Yes, of course. That he's pulling on this guy.

You know, the guy is, like, saying to him, like, look, we agreed. I don't want this true coat shit. And, like, the whole time, like, Macy agrees to that at a meeting we don't see. And then here he's, like, saying to the guy, like, well, it comes standard. Like, we get it from the fucking, you know, auto manufacturer that way. Like, what a piece of shit. So what is a Bucky? Would that mean his full name is Buckminster?

Buckwad? I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm like, Bucky and Captain America also gave me this. Great question. What's an actual Bucky? What is Bucky short for? I would think Bucmister, but I don't know.

It could be Richard. It could be a middle name. I Google it too. It says Bucky can be short for Buchanan, which is a little bit of your name. That's a Minnesota name. Oh, we were at the car lot. last week and Buchanan went off

on the salesman, you know. He nearly blew his stack there. Oh, yes, Buchanan. He raised his hand. Hello, Buchanan. You know, the other thing that's fucked up about that, though, is after this dude is, like, telling him off or whatever, they still buy this car?

Yeah, just get my checkbook. Well, it's great. I do love he does this comeback thing. He's like, well, I, oh, geez, I got to go talk to my boss. And it's this great thing where he's like, got any more tickets to the Gopher game? And it's like, no. But I think he says, Are you serious?

Yes, yep, that's right. I mean, that's the thing you get from the previous seat. I mean, there's just a quick in-between between the King of Clubs bar and this scene where he's getting yelled at at the auto shop. I mean, the car lot. The lot scene is much later. No, no, no, that's what I'm talking about. The true code scene, I'm saying.

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. There's stuff in between that where we see his home life in, in Minneapolis and the father-in-law is at the house he's watching that it's a HL or lower hockey on the TV he's you know oh you got the gophers on there you know and he makes the pitch to him at dinner for the 750K for this parking lot and the father-in-law like I mean this guy's great because he just despises William H. Macy's character in this movie so well but he's got

the you know he says uh you know Macy's trying to pitch him on this thing and he's like well you know uh this could be a real great opportunity for you know me and jean and scotty and he just goes jean and scotty never have to worry it's just like i don't care if you die in the fucking street jerry play the long game here you know how long is this guy going to be around exactly and it seems like your wife uh who's a sweetheart who's going to die uh is you know she's going to be fairly like free flown with the money once the money gets to her oh yeah exactly right you just got to yeah i agree with it i agree with it i agree with Eric here. Well, the other thing, too, is

Macy is in some sort of trouble, which I love you, never really understand what it is. It seems like he took out like a $320,000 loan for, I guess, the car fleet. And then, like, is he underwater with that or is that just him trying to cover up stealing that one car to give?

It's him trying to cover up the stealing the car to give to Bouchemian Stormair. What are the other financial straits here he's in? I mean, it can't be just an investment here. Yeah, but yeah, then this guy's just really pissed off about this $320,000 and he keeps calling, Eric, Chris's

favorite character here. Fucking Riley Defenbach. That's right. If it wasn't from Riley Deepen back. No, that's what I'm saying to you is I can't read the fax. My patience is at an end. Oh, yeah, that's a great way when you're leaving a voice mail. Oh, I'll just fax you over. No, no, no,

I can't read the facts. I, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean send it. I, no, no, no, no, no, no, I meant to fax it. No, no, no, no, no, I meant I send it. Man, that whole phone conversation with you're just like, so much of this movie is just like the slowly clenching asshole just watching William H. Macy like get deeper into it

and like that conversation like you just like I'm trying I know that I'm fucking this guy over and he kind of knows it and it's getting really close to a boiling point like man just like the feelings you get watching this dude hang himself slowly it's unbelievable

so I think we should talk about coming from the first bar scene though is Eric's favorite character, Shep Proudfoot. Oh, man, I love Shep Proudfoot. He's so good. Even in, not just like whipping Steve Busemi's ass later in the film, but just his dialogue with Margie and other people, just that simple one word answers.

He's the worst criminal in the world. So one, you go to a guy you work with. You barely know who clearly doesn't like you, by the way. You ask him for criminal recommendations. Then you give them, those people, a car from your lot. everything comes back to you dude and proudfoot and proudfoot is embroiled in it as well like that seems to me where the key of all this is is there something went on between ship and uh jerry and that's where a lot of this 320,000 thing went came from probably yeah because it i don't know

why shepp like when he's talking oh yeah i talked to your friends up there in fargo and he's like uh-huh and it's just like yeah it's got to go pretty good there and it's like that kind of a thing and like he just doesn't, he hates this guy. I mean, there's probably some sort of like a finder's fee situation that Shep Proudfoot's waiting on, you know, for making that connection to Busemian, whatever. And I think like the guy playing Shep Proudford just does such a great job at that whole like, I am keeping myself distanced from this. I am acknowledging that I hear what you're saying, but I also kind of have no idea what you're talking about Jerry, get it, dude, you know, it's just so awesome. Steve Revis is his actor's name. I couldn't find him in the IMDB lineup here.

Yeah, just again, shitting where you eat here, Jerry Lundegarde, you're just the fucking worst. Like the plan sort of makes sense. Like you're going to kidnap your wife. You're going to fleece your fucking father-in-law. To Eric's point, definitely put it a long game. But, you know, fleece your father-in-law, get a million bucks out of that. Also, what are you going to do? I mean, aside from like get, so you get this million dollars.

You're going to buy this lot. And everyone's like, yo, where did you get that money from? Yeah, exactly There's no way that ends Any well, yeah Because it's like you have to launder it Or you can't just put it in the bank And then like you can't just like

Buy a parking lot and cash I imagine But I don't know, maybe you can Unless you're just like going Your whole plan is like fuck this whole situation I'm going to you know Mexico And I'm going to live out my days with a million bucks That's the way you can do that really That's a good idea by the way

Especially the way things are going here State side I mean but that explains the whole relationship between Wade and Jerry is the fact that like what Jerry wants is for his fucking father law to give him money and leave him the fuck alone to do a business deal. Yes. Where in fact he's like, no, no, no. I don't like you, Jerry, but I like the money.

That's the best part. So he keeps talking about his buddy, Stan Grossman, who's his business of partner. Well, I said him over to Stan Grossman. He's like, well, yeah, yeah, Stan thinks it's a good deal too. And they have this meeting wherein basically they're cutting him out. It makes sense, too, because Jerry just wants a loan to do this investment and then get all the money for himself. They're like, well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Because it's like, yeah, I'm not going to give you money and then just, you know, as a loan, take the risk of possibly never getting it back.

And then when you make profit, you make profit. And I don't. We're not a bank. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. We're not a bank, Jerry. Just the uncomfortableness.

I mean, this movie is kind of like crime, curbs, your enthusiasm. yes because you're just again watching this dude these two men in this scene take their pants down and take a dump on this guy right in this boardroom just take the finders for you it was supposed to be like 75k you're going to be given by yep by by your father-in-law and in 20 30 years you inherit that fucking parking lot anyway this is exactly it's curb your enthusiasm for like non-rich people yeah yeah exactly um but yeah you're i mean take that 75 k 750 70s 70 25K in 1987 fucking

Upper Midwest America money Look out dude, you're living high on the hog It's not bad like the thing He's just too I guess Greedy and that's I guess the heart of the problem That's why crime happens Well yeah he's desperate and he's depressed I mean that's why the ending is so like jarring

To watch him squeal like that Dude he's squealing like a pig in that motel dude Out of the fucking window It is underwear and like you get to see how small he is compared to everybody else these huge hulking dudes he's got no chance oh man and william h vacey dude doing a great job of just screaming

oh oh it's awesome uh while all this is going on we should say stormair and bouchemi are in the the stolen car and this is pancake's house i want pancake chowish had pancakes for fucking breakfast man

I want a steak and a beer pancake stare god damn it Peter's Dormair, stare, exactly. Peter Stormere is such a gift, man. And he's spoken with the window closed, which is just an asshole move. That's the thing is perpetually, he always has like a cigarette hanging from his lip.

It's like one of these little idiosyncry, what's the word I'm looking for? Idiosyncrasy. Thank you. And to the point where at the end, when he's even putting Hussemi into the fucking woodshipper, it's still there. When he's running from Margie Gunderson, it is still there. Busemi's thing here is like, all right, like, we'll stop, we'll get pancakes, and then we'll get laid, all right?

Well, I love this thing where Stomerer is talking about his first day of shooting or whatever. Oh, back to Fetrippo. Future Ed boy over here. He's part of the game. He reads, not everything I do is a game, Eric, okay?

I'm sorry, none of the assholes know what the fuck secrets and lies was. I'm going to press X to ride. But it's it's DeMere and like he's he's doing this scene and he reads the script as his Pancakes House. He's like, oh, okay. And he reads, he's like, I want to

go to Pancake House. And then Ethan Kong's like, um, excuse me. And he's like, what is like, Adelina's pancakes? He's like, oh, I thought there was a typo. Like, there are no typos in our scripts. Oh, man, get out of your own asshole. I think it. Again, like the dialogue is

so specific. I'm like, even reading like every stutter that Macy does is in the script. Is that right? ums the urs the the the the broken off sentences and the that's uh bill sorry we got a call cut here uh it's an um there not an er so it's four ums and then you hit the er okay bud there's no there's no typos here okay i would love to see a feature out of the cone brothers like working out a script together and just reading these parts back and forth

they have to i feel if it's that specific with the errs and the ums yeah no you're right I feel like Francis McDormand came, like, went to Thanksgiving with the Cohen's family, like, first time, first time out to see Ethan and all that. And like, Ethan, she goes to like cut the turkey or something. He's like, actually, you're not supposed to do it like that. Actually, you're supposed to cut it from the side and down. Shut the fuck up, Ethan. Yeah, we don't improv when we're carving poultry in this house. You didn't write Thanksgiving dinner. Thank you.

There is, I've heard stories like this. even on what do you call it there oh god i can't inside lewin davis the please mr kennedy like even oscar is like all these p p p p p p p pleases and like even go it's like yep the p p p p p p paces that's what we want here come on oscar you know this is in a fucking star wars here the script is the script is you like a manager from brazil i got to go back and check out inside lew and davis i've always wanted to but it's such a depressing movie yeah it really is you can't it should be because I was thinking about that movie last night because I was going through

their movies that I really love that I haven't revisited in a really long time and I came on that one and I was like you know it should be against the law to watch that movie between like the end of September and the beginning of February if you're in the Northeast like

the weather like it just will not not depress you you know yeah I was I want I keep I have it on I have it on criteria and I'm really excited to go back to it but I and not this year buddy nice try definitely not i need a little more sunshine in my life for inside lou and davis thank you i want a sunnier warmer movie like salo i mean it's why just on like cohen rewatches and it is just one of my you know favorite movies of all time it is my favorite

movie but like there were three weekends in a row recently where like every friday after chelsea went to sleep i just put the big labowski on and sat there you just joined yourself I just had to laugh, man. We cut to them having what we've referred to for years on this show as Fargo Sex. Yes, Fargo Sex, exactly. Where you've been confused, it's just two dudes in a room, in a twin bed hotel room, on opposite ends, just having sex with their respective ladies. And apparently, it's not group sex.

I think it is. But I think you have to, like, reach across to the other twin mattress, though, dude. There has to be contact, I feel. Yeah, it's just a poorly attended orgy at that point. It is group sex adjacent because you could easily fall into group sex. And also just looking at other people doing it while you're doing it. That's not pornographic films. It's very interesting as far goes sex.

Your buddy is part of it, is all I'm saying. And this is not, I'm not using any kind of Judeo-Christian, whatever. There's no judgment here, but your buddy is part of the event. But I think it's part of it is that like they're trying to. to underline how like isolated and atomized everybody is is that they seem to be having sex in the same room and you would think that but they also seem so separate from each other

exactly they're like not you know there's no like they're not slapping high fives or anything like they may as well be alone the prostitution here it's just like a utility yes yes it's oh big time oh big that sees the Jose Feliciano scene is amazing that was one of the ones that really stuck out

this rewatched to me yeah Jose Feliciano you got no complaints I mean I think also because like since we've had the Christmas music going on around here so Jose Feliciano's been in this house already this year singing Feliz Navidad also his great cover in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So I've been having this dude out my brain a lot in 2020 and so this time around watching the movie I was like oh yeah okay you know but the other great thing the best detail about this Fargo sex scene because there are.

there's two of them. One is just a Busemi solo sex scene, but this one ends with like, I love the cut to them just like in bed, watch the Tonight Show. Yes. It is, it's a simpler time, guys. You know,

you and a buddy pick up some ladies, you go have sex, and then you're watching the Tonight Show. You're watching Carson. By some fucking Jimmy Fallons. Some beers, some Marlboros, some Pringles cans. Well, yeah, definitely smoking in bed. Don't worry about it. I could not imagine. having sex now

and putting on Jimmy Fallon and watching it. No, I mean you know, thank God you put it on after you're done dude, dude, because you'll lose your erection, too sweet. No, no, you're not supposed to do foul. You're supposed to be a cordon man. The thing is like Carson and Letterman, it's like you just

shot off, you got your done, you got dunzo downstairs. I could see kicking back with it. I just can't with these cutesy dudes. No, dude. It's like, oh, I just came. Let's watch. What is it? Slow jam the news. Okay. Let's watch the telitubbies for grownups now.

Man, that was the best sex of my life. Let's lay back in the great glow that it is and, oh, carpool karaoke's on. That's great. Yeah, let's do carpool karaoke with the band that everybody loves doing a karaoke. The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, great. So, D. Chanel is doing a song on the hell.

so we have i mean so here's like the big attack scene uh with jerry lundegarde's uh wife here they set this up so beautifully we should say also this woman uh christin rudrud did you guys get the the interesting bit of trivia for this woman no so she was so she's in this she was in uh drop did gorgeous and pleasantville not not a huge uh actress but she is from fargo that makes sense yep Which is fucking totally great. Her accent is peerless in this film. Like, you know, McDormann's doing a good job. This is like, oh, hon, you know, just like, all of, dad's here.

Oh, dad's here. Dad, you're staying for dinner? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're going to fucking cook meal meal. Stan says the numbers look pretty sweet. But yes, I mean, I love.

And also, like, the way the interior. of this house is so warm and so cozy and so like not where crime is allowed to happen. You don't know. No. It's so funny of you know like again this is more comedy than your cool hitman thing just Busemi walking up

the deck and looking in and she's just like what's going to? Well that's what's great right is like so she's sitting there she's knitting she's watching like a bad infomercial thing and they really let you sit in this moment like there's a lot of time that passes before

or Busemi, like, crawls up the stairs. So, like, you're sitting there with her, and it's like, yes, this, like, quaint, domestic, you know, weekday afternoon kind of a thing. And then you see him, and the second you see him come up the stairs, though, I always get tense. I'm like, oh, fuck, look at this guy, destroying the domesticity here. Steve Bouchemi in the ski mask looks like the Gremlin in the ski mask, if you remember in Gremlins? Yeah, you're not wrong. I will say, they get the relationship to daytime TV, like, so dead on in this one little scene.

Oh, because she's, like, talking to the TV, like, they're not talking at all. She's, but, like, they're on. But, like, but, like, you know, I didn't mean talking, but just like, oh, yeah. Like, her eyes are going up, like, because they're like, good morning. Yeah, we're going on a two week trip down the Nile, me and Katie, and we want all you to come with us. And she's, like, smiling and her eyes are going big. I'm like, holy shit.

They get it all in one little, almost wordless exchange. She's so in it, dude. it's like these are my daytime friends like they take me in all these wild adventures and I sit here knitting it's fucking awesome and learn how to make the perfect omelet yeah yes that's right um and

yeah you know so they break in right here somebody just breaks the fucking window to this back door and then she starts freaking out and running and then here comes storm air kicking the front door open I mean this whole thing is just wild I love the detail of her taking to the phone

into the other room and then them just pulling the line out from under her. Yep. Yeah. It's fucking great. She bites Stramar's hand. What does he want here? It's like, I need, it's like some bizarre, like, I don't know, like ointment kind

of a thing. He keeps like, I need it. I can't remember what it is. Oh, whoa, in the bathroom. I need ungwent. Yes, exactly. And so that's what gets him into the bathroom. It looks like she's going to escape.

She has those awful fucking rollout windows, man. I had rollout windows. Those things suck shit. They suck shit, but it's such a great deal. detail though because like it's it's interesting to me actually steve hearing that you had those growing up in the bronx because like i always associate that kind of shit window crank with like homes and suburbia and it just it speaks to like the design of this house like so much of this house i mean obviously so but like you had these ranch style houses i mean i grew up in a similar

kind of house my friends had these houses like where they're made in the 80s nobody fucking did shit to them and so like into the 90s they carried that same look with them and like so perfect for this movie because I bet you anything this house that they found for this part like they didn't have to do much to make it look like 1980

I guarantee you it still just fucking look that way and then seeing those windows it's just such a great joke she can't get out because these are the worst fucking windows in human history and you know Bouchemi thinks she left the house so he runs out but then

while Stormer is trying to clean his hand he realizes she's in the shower this is when she runs out of the shower there's so much like this is Cohen Brothers it's cruel physical comedy at this woman's expense you know what I mean and it's just like it's very cruel and it's hilarious

because she just runs out and like she gets wrapped up in the shower curtain and oops falls down the stairs oh man it's it's fucking brutal and it's like they just always do that so well though it's like yes it's totally brutal but also like it's hilarious that she's wrapped up in the shower curtain.

Yeah. You know, if it's like, if she doesn't have that shower curtain on and she's just running, like, then it's just scream. Well, because you're wondering, like, what did you think was going to happen? Like, that's your whole thought process when something like happened. You're like, oh, my, yeah, I would do that. But why would I do that? That's like what I always feels at the core of a Colin Brothers movie is like,

yeah, I would totally do that. Why would I do that? Well, why would I do that? I mean, their whole thing is, you know, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Yeah. You know, yeah, so at this point, they kidnap her and this is when on the road they get pulled over for not having their, and again, like, these guys are bad at crime. Again, if you are a fucking criminal, A, you shouldn't be using, you should steal a car and just steal a car, be done with it. You're using this car without plates, you're driving out of the plates.

Like, dude, this is how you get pulled over. Yep, exactly. like and that's what's amazing about it right is like uh you know uh jerry is looking at these two guys as if they are the professionals right and he's like well they obviously know what they're doing and then when you see them in action it's like no they're also just terrible like and then you think like really ship proud foot like these were the guys like this was the a team chef okay but like you're right like he could have swapped the license plate earlier or something but also like there's no dealer plates that he could have even hung so he's

just drive it around with because he doesn't want it to go back to jerry lundergaard yeah that's a good point yeah like jerry probably didn't even give him dealer plates he just assumed that they would steal as a fucking you know license plate earlier maybe i don't know the idea of just giving them a car is just one of the dumbest also but like the shepp like ship like ship is so an important character to me in this respect because like he's a native american and i feel like he sees all this as white men doing their white men stuff oh that's exactly and like and like so he doesn't care He doesn't care how good Carl and Greer are at their job. He's just like, get me the money.

That's all I can have at this point. You've taken everything else for me, you fucks. So do whatever you want to do. That's like his, that's his whole view to me. It's awesome. And I just love the shit with, ah, the tags. I should have changed the tags. It's just getting pulled over when they have a woman screaming in their, in their backseat.

And they wait so long to be like, by the way, don't say anything. Like the cop is like, almost at the door, and I think it's stormingers like, shut the fuck up. And like, that's the, I would feel like that's the first thing. All right, I'm pulling over. You shut the fuck up back there. I'm pulling over. And then Sussammy's like, or we're going to have to like shoot you.

Yeah, oh, that's, we're going to have to, uh, you know, shoot you. I'll take care of it. I want to take care of it in Brainerd. He's got the $50 bill out. Just figuring out to take care of it here in Brainerd. I, uh, I want to be in compliance. Take care of it here in Brainer. step out of the car please sir oh man and then stormer just grabs this dude by the head and shoots him right in the skull

such a great shot of the little fountain of blood yeah and i mean and that's like the first like whoa that this moment obviously like carries us into a whole other level here like now we're escalating it's no longer someone falling down the stairs in a shower curtain the fact that like i guess stormair is like gonna make fucking busemi drag the body as punishment maybe for fucking up this interaction but like yes you're the big dude you want to get this done fast totally big swede get out of that fucking car and drag this dude into the snow already Busemi's reaction of whoa daddy I love it so much

he's got blood all over his face and I mean like yeah but I mean that's the audience being like okay this is a different movie now you know what I mean exactly I love too that this dude gets shot right in the head like that and they're in brain nerd also

that's kind of great everybody else get a very heavy duty Arrow Morris re-emactment shots from Thin Blue Line. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. I saw a lot of that in these shots. Right. I also love these Normies that pull up in the car like, oh, what's that? Oh, my

Lord. Yep, totally, totally, man. And so, I mean, this is all great too because they realize like these, it's like two kids and they see Buscemi dragon this dead trooper and it's like, okay, time to go. And then you see Stormair just being like, oh, I just want

more pancake and fucking begrudgingly like speeding after them this dude slowing down to so slow to watch it and then his eyes going wise his little jaws on it's like what

dude get the fuck out of there that's bad this chase is cool though all right oh it's so great and it's like it's so it's such a Cohen car chase because it's like it ends because not because of anything

Stormair really did but because these people just drove off the snowy road and had a car accident. Yeah. And this dude, by the way, just running away, leaving his fucking girlfriend in the car. And yeah, and he just, he shoots his dude in the back and then he shoots her and it's like, yikes. It's really. And I mean, that whole, the shot of the girl, like, in the car, like, she's still stuck there. She doesn't say anything to him.

There's no, like, pleading or anything. And he obviously isn't going to say anything and just fucking shoots her. Super young looking to, like, it's a real, like, whoa. Yeah, I mean, they're two, like, teenagers. I feel like they're coming from some, like, high school big game or something, you know? Yeah, they were going to see the gophers, and then I got shot in the fucking back.

I love how methodical, like, Margie Gunderson is when she gets out here to the crime scene, and she's like, and that one, she got shot in the face and in the hand. I guess it's a defensive wound, huh? Oh, yeah, and I mean, that's, you know, one of the notes I had was, like, another great thing about Margie is, like, throughout her entire investigation,

of this whole you know the triple homicide like she does everything perfectly like she's an amazing police officer i think it's also it's like you see a pregnant woman and you think vulnerability or something as the audience but it's like she's and also like a small town cop maybe could be really shook up by homicides etc but it's the opposite of that and she's like totally like used to blood and guts it's kind of cool it's the one here he says uh triple homicide there uh well he looks like a nice enough fella Yep. Yep, that's another weird thing. Now, let's go see that dead trooper.

Oh, you know, I'm not too sure about your police work there, Lou. Yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah, the DLR, that's for dealer plates. Oh, and I mean, and that's great, too. There's no like, like this dude Lou is so great because he's not like, oh, yeah, okay, you think I got it wrong, lady cop, what is it? You know, she's like, hey, I think you missed something here. like oh did I you know what I mean like just the pleasantry in this police work is so weird

I didn't mean to jump over John Carroll Lynch's I'll fix you some eggs oh God fix me some eggs if I could be married to a strong man that would fix me some eggs yeah and a painter who paints ducks I love you're working on your mallard there ain't that's the thing is like her home life feels like a great home life and that's another interesting character note. And the thing you mentioned, Eric, I think was you, about just her being pregnant. The amazing thing is, like, that never

comes to play in this movie, aside from her being like, oh, I got to sit down. Yes. Yeah. It's never, like, she's not like, there's not some bullshit thing about, like, she's going after Stormair and, like, labor pains happen. Right. Like, she's sidled by that.

Or, like, Stormair is punching her gutter or anything. Yeah, no, nothing like that. No, I just think I'm going to bar yeah yeah exactly like none of it though sidelines her as a police officer and like they get the home life so dead on in very few scenes

like the quiet moment you get between when she leaves and when she comes back in for the start for the oh god need the jump just to get that quiet moment of what it's like to live in this kind of how like John Carroll Lynch's life too like living in an empty house all day and painting

mallards I mean it's incredible it's amazing too because like she's like investigating triple homicides and stopping off to buy night crawlers for him to go ice fishing later yeah and i mean that whole the whole notion of what their home life is you know unlike the uh as far as who's bringing home the bacon is great like i've always understood it like he doesn't really have a job right like she she is bringing home the bacon and he's like he's just the dude who's cooking eggs and then i'm working on my little mallard painting and yeah yeah i'll go ice fishing later that's okay he'll be a house husband eventually once once the kid comes he'll take time off to bring it up but then she's gonna go back to work he's gonna he's gonna raise the kid that's exactly no it's it's such an interesting dynamic that's one of my problems with actually the tv show is that when they trying to kind of transpose this character into what kerry coon's character is yes and like she doesn't have any warmth whereas like

gunderson has extreme warmth yes like she's all business and it's which season is carrie coon is Three. Okay. I haven't seen that. I did not see season three or four. I think one is a bunch of fun and I think two is a masterpiece. Yeah. Two is the only one I've seen it's in an in its entirety. One I've seen like the first maybe like one or two episodes of and then like I just kept forgetting to watch it. And now yeah, I've got like season three which you guys have all seemed to really enjoy. I haven't seen a lick of it. And four now everyone is saying is bad but I love Chris Rock. So I'm I'm like, do I watch that? I watched one episode, and my friend is out of his depth. It's not a good role for him. That stinks. And not that he's a bad actor at all.

He's just such a personality that it's not, it's not for him. But it's also the first season where they're completely, like, I don't think any of this comes from Fargo. Yes, which is a problem. Any other of the story doesn't, like, originate in the movie. Well, in season two, they dip down to like Kansas City and stuff is it's still Midwestern, though, right? Sure, but like there's story bits in season two. that are in the original movie. What, the aliens?

Well, no, no, the troopers. Oh, like, it's all based on Patrick Wilson is, like, one of the first, like, great troopers of the area. But personally, like, I don't even give a shit, if anything, ties into the movie. No, no, no, of course not. Yeah. But, like, I feel like this was Noah Hawley going full blast on his own for the first time

without any help and no origins from the Cohen's original text. And he comes, yeah, and then he completely blew it. ah okay that'll happen it's a bummer man I mean that that dude loves whiffin that fuck who's you in the sky is terrible oh get get the hell out of here with that yeah so like and I do love like yeah she's she's doing all the stuff she's also buying night crawler so norm could go ice fishing later and it's not like there's no resentment nothing else you know what I mean like she's yeah she's carrying a wide load she's totally cool with this dude you know like just kind of supporting her kind of a thing and I love the

Arby scene. Oh, you got Arby's all over me there, Norm. Well, that's a fucking great thing, right? There's an awesome bit of editing there because she's like, oh, what is that Arby's? And he's like, oh, yeah. And she's like, oh, thanks for the lunch hun. And what they cut to

is the bag of worms. So she says thanks for the lunch hon and the next thing you see is a bag of worms writhing, right? It's fucking right. It's such a great joke right there. And it's, yeah, it's like underneath the whole like polite, whatever, ever society.

It's, well, you mentioning that reminds me of, you know, in blue velvet where we see the white picket fence and you go

down and you see the bugs under the ground. Yep. Absolutely. Dude, just the fucking the rot underneath the, you know,

prime Vermeer. But, I mean, it's a veneer, rather. But, like, it's interesting. Like,

I don't know that there's really any rot with these guys. You know what I mean? There's a little, I will get to it because this time around, I noticed some stuff

with them that I found really interesting. but i mean like the rod in general of midwestern polite society i think it's really embodied in this movie by mike yannigida also and buying the nightcrow is literally buying the rot yes right yeah oh yeah that's very very interesting um so we have the we have the jerry and wade and uh fucking what's his name stan grossman stan trying to discuss like whether or not they're going to call the cops and wade is like well obviously you have to call the cops you know he's not psyched about this million dollars situation he's trying to he's trying to negotiate them down and

like stagros like not a horse it's not a horse trade here you know he's like they're holding all the cards and like yeah i just love how much like uh what he called the jury is relieved that stan grossman is on his side for once that's what you want you know what you want is his backing i feel like this is the uh these uh ransom numbers real sweet I feel like he was with the Clinton campaign even Like he just has such sway in this town I mean it's it's He's Jerry is so elated

That he agrees with him because it's the only Only way his father-in-law will ever side with anything that he has to say It's like because he just disrespects him so much and loathes this guy And it's like all right well if Gary's saying it's all right I guess my idiot son-in-law must be right for once it is it is great and you know he has to there's a great scene with uh what do you call it there with macy and his son oh good old scottie scottie and he's like really worried obviously because his mother's been fucking kidnapped and the way scotty has a white snake poster yes

dude the two the conflicting posters of scotty lundegarde dude because there's the white snake one and then he the fucking the button on that scene is so great because macy closes the door and there's that huge accordion king poster? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's gotten accordion on his bed next to all this hockey equipment. Like, Scotty Lundergard is a weird, interesting kid. I think that's also his family

pushing him to. I mean, the Midwest with the, you know, their European origins, I think, you know, I think Yankovic was from out there probably. Yeah. Oh, is that right? I mean, that checks. The interesting thing that was like shit. He, there is the, there's the quick

fight or disagreement earlier in the Lundergard household when the mom is like, yeah, you can't play hockey this year because like your grades are really bad and he's freaking out and he's like, that's fucking unfair. And then you got the Macy like, oh, hey, geez, let's watch that language there. I love it. And also I love the, when he goes out to go get food, go to go to McDonald's after they ate dinner and the grandfather's like, oh, they're doing it at that McDonald's. are not not drinking milkshakes by the way shooting up right at the macdonalds quick correction al yankovic from california but his father was from kansas city and obviously yugoslav descent so i think there's just that european weird monoculture in the midwest absolutely it's it's out

there man it'll hook you right in i mean it was huge huh polka polka oh yeah polka part um and so we have one of the things that happens kind of a little down the line here is she goes to this lakeside club margie does and she's talking to these girls uh that were that were part of the fargo sex i mean and this is like obviously one of the most iconic parts of the movie it was used everywhere i think this was like trailer and tv adverts we had these girls you know oh yeah that's the best part it's just like oh yeah uh whatever high school go bears it's like let's put that go bears that i Um, it starts the whole thing of like, and man, Steve Bouchemy takes a hit in this movie because like everyone is saying that this guy's funny looking. Like that is the, the, the through line when anyone is trying to describe Steve Bouchemmy's character. It's like, yeah, I don't know. He was just, uh, kind of funny looking. One of these girls also say she's, the town is that she's from is lees sewer. I just thought that was interesting because it sounds like, you know, like where the shit is after you go to the toilet. sewer. Oh, he wasn't circumcised. Was he a funny looking at any other way other than that? Which is just the greatest line. I can't put an APB out for uncircised guys.

All right, he's funny looking, uncut. To repeat, he is uncut. Did ask about facial hair at all. I didn't. I'm sorry. That's the thing is that she's not like, what color of hair did he have? Do you have a beard or anything? He's such a criminal that even is. dicks wearing a little hood

a penis beagle boy really and you know we we have the great this is the great Mike Yanagita seen here she gets a call from him

early in the morning that's like I was watching it again this time I'm like I think he's calling at 1045 at night I think she went to bed early he saw it on the nightly news in Minnesota that there were killings in Brainerd and she was mentioned or interviewed or whatever and then he immediately calls the person he just saw on television oh so it's at night I always thought that this was morning it's night yeah okay yeah that makes more sense 1045 and it's dark and it's just oh it is dark okay yeah psychotic behavior of like I just oh Margie I'm gonna call I'm gonna call her immediately it is great you know he's just just in his underwear and it's just been gross for a while

yeah it's that thing of like you know especially like back back then where it's like the telephone's ringing because you just called people man you know you know there's no Facebook there's no whatever that's how you stalked people she's a cop so she's got to pick up

it's against the law for her not to answer the phone please don't be your husband please don't be her husband please don't be her husband oh it's like 15 hangups before before he gets I love the way they compose this shot of her on the phone too because it's like you know she's like oh yeah of course I remember you Mike and like as the conversation

goes on and you know even from her one side it's like oh this is maybe someone from high school or whatever and John Carroll Lynch you know it's not like he's not intentionally doing this but it's just a great like he puts his arm over her like he's still kind of asleep and cuddling or whatever and like front and center in the frame is his hand with the wedding ring on it, you know, which is just so awesome. Well, how the heck are you?

And so this is what kind of, and that's what's interesting. So she winds up, you know, the next day they wind up going to this horrific buffet. Oh, I think I got food poisoning. Just watch. How's the fricacy? The name of this, I think,

there's no like establishing shop, but I think on the tables, there's like a little menu sign that it's friar tucks, friar like a deep friar. Yeah. Oh man, that is disgusting. Tiling on the meatballs and all sorts of different kinds of chicken and the fricacy, Stephen. The fricacy is excellent. And this is what she kind of revealed, this trooper comes in and he's like, yeah, you know, there's, uh, he's got more information, uh, that's down in the Twin Cities and she's like, oh, I guess I'll go down there. And this is sort of and like, this is when John Carroll is like, oh, yeah. Like it's kind of a he, he kind of understands immediately like, wait, she's going on a trip. This cop, like, as he's, like, as he. He's going on a trip. This cop, like, as he. he's like breaking this news stops halfway and was just like oh norm i thought you were going ice fishing that is more important than the murders oh yeah i'm gonna do that later today

just let you know what the town is because like he knows that norm might be going ice fishing later you know what i mean he's jealous as hell i would be oh i'm sure a lot of the dudes uh you know on that police force with her are fucking jealous of the fact that norm gets to stay home and he's just painting and fishing whatever he was. I don't want to go too far back, but that scene when she's interviewing the two girls to talk about where they tell

her that they went to Minnesota. And that's like the big, and on the trailers, like after Fargo came to VHS, I remember distinctly like critics are saying that it's great, fantastic, excellent, and then it cuts to her being like, does that help you? Yeah.

Oh yeah? Yeah. And just the fact that like Steve Busemi and the way it's like tracked down is like he's still writing like tan sierra in the fucking motel book exactly the really good point Eric like dude you've got to ditch this car it's just so stupid I mean that's that's the whole point of the movie I guess but it's it's amazing especially after you kill a state trooper like that maybe you had a plan before then now you've killed the state trooper in three people you've got to just you know ditch this tan Sierra I know you like it but that's what's so funny too

is like you figure he at least has some understanding of that because before the buffet scene there is the quick thing where Bouchemy calls Macy and he's like you know circumstances have changed blood has been shed Jerry which is fucking great he's demanding

you know the full 80 grand because that's the thing also we skipped over is that Macy is playing it for a million dollars and he's told them it's going to be 80,000 40,000 for each party you know what I mean? And now now Boucherbie's coming in tough with the 80 grand and even still you know macy'd still make out pretty okay yeah exactly like i don't

you know he tries to like fight them on this and it's like dude let it go it's just another 40 grand for your million dollars you're trying to get out of this like yeah of course whatever it takes to get these guys out of your lives forever you know do it also like the idea that like okay so genie is going to be freed and wade is going to give that million dollars over to and then suddenly William H Macy owns a parking lot that was where it's 70-50 that you just talked to your father-in-law wait about it's just so again stupid it's silly

I mean I love because Macy has this thousand-yard stare the entire movie it's the stare that implies stupidity it also implies just sort of like the crumbling inside you know what I mean like every second that every scene his situation becomes more and more dire and the stair kind of becomes a bit longer It's just a phenomenal performance from him.

Well, because nobody plays a character crumbling internally, quite like William H. Macy. Point here, see his performance in Boogie Manx. A couple years from now. Yeah. Two years from now, I think.

Whoa, it was the 97. It's like the very next year, isn't it? I thought it was 98, but I remember wrong. I mean, well, whatever. But, like, yeah, I mean, Macy and the 90s man, dudes that are just getting fucked over left and right. I also think of Stormer's stare, too, because, like, Stormair is what an actual criminal in the real world is like. Yes. Like, totally, like, dead zone.

I'm just after money. That's my whole thing. It's the money and me, like, doing what I want. And that's it. And this scene where fucking Bouchemey is, like, hitting the TV, like, fuck. Fuck. Fuck. And then, like, it's just his stare, and you can just tell this is not going to go well.

You can tell this is all going to crumble. He's already thinking about killing Steve. the lake house hideout where he's watching the TV and they're they don't have any heat so he's got the oven on open to provide heat yep they're stocked with nutrition though because they got pringles cans yeah the pringles is looking good uh you get the hilarious physical comedy of and it's it just shows you who steub bushemi who carl show walter is when she comes out with the with the bag over her head and she's running around in the snow and like bushemi stops him he's like no no wait watch it's gonna be good yeah who who who who who whips yeah it's just like he's having a ball at this and it's like dude could we not well yeah I mean that's it's so totally cruel and he's just laughing at it and you're just like man

this guy is a true scum like he's not a scumbag in the way that Stormere is a scumbag it's two completely different sets of scumbags here but he is also very much a scumbach around here we get when Busemi goes and finally gets license plates for this

Tans Sierra by going to this parking garage oh right Yeah, but I decided not to park here. Him fucking dressing down that, dude. Yes, well, it's $4 or whatever to come. It's like, oh, you think you're a fucking authority figure, you fucking piece of shit. Call it him a piece of shit. Here's your fucking $4, you piece of shit.

You're pathetic piece of shit. And the guy, you know, the toll operator, nice is all get out. And then just seeing his face kind of goes sour at being called the pathetic piece of shit. what is it incredible these are the boundaries of your reality pal or whatever he says which is just it's total beyond nutty word to say oh man uh you know so margie goes through the twin cities uh these are the limits these are the limits of your life which is just oh that's what he says to the guy sorry these are the limits of your life here's your four dollars you pathetic piece of shit sorry margie goes to the hotel oh yeah no she goes to the hotel you know checks in and

whatever, and then she calls up, you know, some sort of police contact there. And she's like, oh, you know, I had some business down here in the Twin Cities, figured I'd check in and everything. And, you know, then she's, because she's trying to find a Shep Proudfoot at this point. And this is the, oh, thanks for the info. Oh, and by the way, any place to get a good lunch around here? The Radisson, is it reasonable? I love, you know, oh, is it too expensive there at the Radisson?

I'm like, you're at a business trip. Fucking, you know, expense. Also that the best restaurant they could give you is the Radisson Hotel Restaurant. Oh, yep. In all of the Twin Cities. Yeah, I'm sure there's an actual, you know, slew of great restaurants, but it's just like, yeah, go eat at the Radisson. So, like, the Mikey had a Gita scene, which we need to talk about is, yeah, it is, it's so tremendous. And it's also like, what's great about it is it's totally, it isn't super perforful of the film, but it is wherein if you removed it, everybody is in the same place where they would be at the end.

you know what i mean like nothing actually transpires that actually makes the movie whatever but it does like it adds so much texture and there is this weird it's just it's so bizarre it's a sort of thumb and then the best possible way well i think it's actually i think it aids the narrative i know people have argued against that but like the fact that like this dude from your childhood that you grew up with who had like a crush on you is now like a pathetic like desperate maniac it's sort of you see like the transition of how someone can go from Minnesota nice to this

to potential murder eventually like Mike Anagita I don't think that guy I don't think that's ending well no I want to see this dude's refrigerator post-taste it goes to the gulf that goes between like what a self-image is versus what reality of your character is

and that's all that this is a huge part of this movie but the other thing too and I think you're totally right Chris because yeah it is about the intern in the internal stuff that you don't get to see and she gets it laid bare for her but also what's interesting here what i watch at this time i think she's kind of she's flirting with the idea she's not actually going to do anything absolutely she's flattered by it she dresses up you know she comes in you know very much so when she's when she frames herself in the door on the radisson she fixes her

hair she's not like she's not not going to do anything in the world but like it's the idea of doing something illicit it's the idea of doing something sort of wrong it's like this guy likes me let me just, you know, let me just, let me give, and it turns out, you're smelling it a little. You're smelling it a little. And it turns so poorly immediately for her that she just reaches her hand back from the fire kind of immediately, as opposed to like, amazing kind of a thing. Yeah, it's like, oh, geez, there. The universe is telling me immediately, this is a fucking horrible idea, and I'm going to wind up decapitated in a freezer. His whole, like, you mind if I sit over here? The way that he like gets up from the booth as he's saying, the sentence.

Well, first he grabs her, he gives her the hug, is, oh, you're. look great. His eyes go back into his head. Dude, he, I think there's a little bit of a squirt there. Oh, I felt it move. Oh, I felt it move. You know what the thing is he knows that she's pregnant from the TV. So he's it. He's into it is the idea. Oh, sure. But this story he feeds are like, oh, I was married and you remember what was it? Was it? Was it named like Linda Cooxie? Linda Cookees? Oh, yeah. I think that's exactly what it is. Yeah, yeah. But then she passed away had the leukemia and it's like this is and we find out later in the film she talks to someone a complete fabrication this woman is still alive never fucking dated mike yenegita

and this world he's creating what the amazing part about that like when you get that confirmation i mean it just makes that whole scene way creepier after the fact right but like the best part is the woman that she's speaking to is just is not really that i mean she's maybe creeped out or whatever, but it's more like, oh, there must have been a miscommunication because then she's just like, you know, you should give Linda a call there. Yeah, well, that's the veneer of this fucking phony society. It is great, too, because she's like, oh, yeah, he was bothering her for a while. Oh, right.

The fact that it was just know the mad stalker. Oh, you got, oh, you got Janeghita. Oh, geez, you got Janeghita there. You got decapitated by the ice fish and strangler. Yeah, Mike, the Minnesota molester. Yeah. Did he do that thing with a handshake and then put his little finger on you? That's weird.

I hate that one. Does he still drive that huge weird van? His hair still like that? There's a mention that he like lives with his parents. Yes. Oh, I miss that detail. Oh, shit. He's not like he doesn't have a home of his own.

He doesn't have a family. He doesn't have kids. It was sort of alluded to that he might at this first encounter. he lives with his parents as in there's a house that he grew up in and the parents are in the freezer he also pretends that he's an engineer for honeywell he's like oh as an engineer you could do a lot worse than honeywell like and it's just totally i do love andrew when he tries to sit next to her it is such a bizarre move because it would have been fine for mike and again if he came in a little slower you know what i mean

just been like yeah it would have been a fine pleasant lunch she wouldn't have had sex with you but it would have been a fine pleasant lunch maybe a little flirtation yeah But Steve, there's a reason why someone like Mike Anagita is single. Exactly. It's not just because nobody likes them. It's like the move, dude. You can't do that move. I mean, it's also just like, and now you can't get out of the booth.

You know what I mean? Like, because it's, there's a wall in the booth that they're in. I know, like some booths and restaurants and whatnot, you know, you can get in on either side if the restaurant is laid out that way. But like this is like, you can only get in one side and there's a wall there. So, like, he's trying to get around and, like, would then essentially be, like, blocking her. And now you can't go anywhere. Yeah, Nagita. I'm actually a good right.

Why don't you go right back there? Oh, I could see you better. And it's like, yeah, please. Oh, yeah, I don't have to crane my neck there. And I also don't want to press you. I don't want you pressing your boner against my thigh there. Thank you so much, though. Oh, no, thank you.

I felt that once already when you hugged me on the way in. I mean, Steve Park really does. Oh, a little bono there, aren't you? Huh? I'm sorry, Chrissy. what are you saying staff i'm saying steve park really does like in a movie that's full of just like one-off like sequences that have these great like the guy who plays lou is incredible and you don't really see him again after that first scene yeah steve park in this scene just like blows me

away and like and i'm kind of surprised he didn't come back to the coens until fucking serious man i was like i kind of want to see more of this guy yeah oh he's in serious man he's got a small role uh but he's also from he's the detective from falling down as well yes he's in falling down he's in do the right thing for a hot second he's got he's yeah he's great in this movie he's absolutely great in this movie it just it he burns the doors down like he just goes to crying and

stuff and like it just it's so creepy it's so creepy oh I just love it so much oh he's also I haven't seen this yet I guess he's in Cagillionaire oh who is the Miranda July movie it's a great movie I don't know who he played him it can't be that big he's credited as another

father so probably not. This is around where Bouchemey takes the escort to the Jose Feliciano show, the old in and out. Man, he's just such, it's the great thing too when like a

scumbag thinks they're being charming. God damn. And it's just it is that very specific tone of like he makes that joke about the old in and out like she's going to love this one. Again, this actress just knocks this little roll out of the park. Like the look, the way she delivers

these lines like, yeah, are mostly businessmen. It's just so perfect. Well, and she doesn't want to talk to this dude either. He's like, oh, so you've been an escort long? And she's like, yeah, about a couple of months there. Like, kind of just like, can we get this over with? Can you just, can you just shoot and be done with it?

This semi is so uncouth too because it's like, oh, you know, like, oh, this is a fancy place. No one took you here or whatever. But then he's just like, hey, waiter, my drink. Well, he's got a hearing problem. Dude, him getting snub by that waiter is fucking hilarious. is waiter this is they cut

the dude walks right by we cut to them having sex we should say to set to see it up a little bit

Marge has gone to Macy's dealership at this point and she's interviewed Shep Proudfoot

and if I'm Macy and that happens I'm gone I am already I'm taking whatever limited funds I have

maybe there's a petty cash box I could steal from I am now somewhere else yep I am now

Barry Fundergard of Belize. Exactly, dude. Yeah, but so this is like, Bouchemie is having sex with this woman, and Shep Proudfoot breaks the fucking door down, and like she goes flying,

and this is just, oh man. It's a rampage. Well, dude, it is a total, it is a fucking Charles Foster Kane on that bedroom rampage. Like, he is fucking whipping Steve Bouchembe. He's choking him with this belt. Who kicks the woman down the hallway?

The neighbor knocks on the door to complain. He comes out and start. starts fighting the neighbor and knocks him unconscious. He is lifting up this neighbor and throwing him through this hallway like it's inception. Well, I also love when they're having sex and the woman's like, all right, come on now. Come on. Yeah. I could hear the bells. It's like I just want to get out of here, dude.

The unenthusiastic, please just shoot. I've got other appointments. Why did we go see Jose Feliciano? I do. Yeah. And he just, he calls him a little weasel, which is fantastic. You little piece of shit. fucking shitbag motherfucker that's my favorite one

he's just be and you get to see that it reminds me very much of that part in the Sopranos when um when Peter when Tony beats the shit out of Peter Riegert with a belt yes oh there's much more crying in that scene I feel Peter Rieger Peter Rieger is really whimper

that is such a pathetic that is Robert Patrick level just oh oh that's another sad and sad my favorite line in this scene though is definitely when when Shep pulls the escort off he's like Shep what the fuck you're doing I was banging that girl

and by the way she was just like limply riding him like just like bare energy I was banging yeah you're totally right I was giving that girl

the best sex of her life until you came in you're about to come for the fifth time champ oh man so yeah he gets his fucking ass beat

and you know meanwhile this is where Wade is insisting he's going to do the handoff and not William H. Macy. Big mistake, Wade. And then, of course, Stan Grossman agrees. Finally, he's against him.

Right. It's just like, oh, yeah, you know. That's just, we just like it this way, Jerry. We just like it this way. I just love the whole notion of, like, if any, you know, if you, you know, step from the plan at all, we were murder your daughter. And, like, Wade is just like, it doesn't matter who gives them the money.

They just want the money. It's my money, so it's my show. That's that. Yeah, oh, my show. that's that oh god damn it's awesome uh and so yeah we go to the parking garage here the top of the parking garage where's my damn

daughter who the fuck are you old man where's Jerry he's so I mean this and this is why it's my favorite Steve Boucher before it's this moment alone where he's just he's so annoyed with this fucking old cadre yelling at him and like instantly there's no patience for this

and you know he fucking murders him he just shoots him in the stomach and then he gets shot in the face and then he shoots him a bunch more he unloads into this guy like I counted there's at least like five shots no money

no gene no money how about that he just shoots him it's amazing I just love Wade's performance art it's so I'm genuinely surprised he doesn't run Wade over on his way out oh that would have been kind of great actually

yeah no we should should say it's a Harve Pressnell was the actor who played Wade. He passed away in 2009. Does everybody remember what he's from? No. He's in paint your wagon. Face off. He's the guy that John Travolta gives the heart attack to. Oh,

really? I'm looking through his filmography. This is quite a, quite a filmography here. Isn't saving Private Ryan? Yeah, Patch Adams. Ooh, Evan Almighty. Oh, you let Paxter Troy get away.

Oh, heart. Mr. Deeds, old school, Evan, almighty, flags of our fathers? Wow. Dude, dude worked. Dude worked, and now he's dead. Thank you. That's the story of everyone.

Yep, that's exactly right. Yeah, so then this is like, so, you know, this was a thing. I kind of like, I was getting involved on my iPad here, and I haven't seen this movie in a while. So this part, I kind of, missed for a second. So Jerry follows Wade and then he

finds his body here, right? Yes. Because he thinks, I don't even know what. I mean, he's following just to be a part of it, I guess. But like, yeah, you're not going to get anything done here, dude. Like, sorry. Yeah. There's shots after that of Jerry just like pacing around his house sitting around the foyer. This is, well, this

is the hilarious, uh, he comes home and Scotty's like, oh, uh, you know, Gary called, uh, you know, what's going on here? Because Scotty knows about the kidnapping, but he doesn't really know what's going on here. And it's like, oh, he called, uh, okay. And it's like, he sits down in the foyer. And then it's like, you got to call Jerry now? What? This kid's just yelling at him. And he's like, I'm,

I'm going to bed now. If I'm this kid, I'm like, you know what? Kind of think my dad's in on it here at this point, man. You don't seem to concern. You're just going to sleep. Where's grandpa? Dad, are you sure you talked to Stan Grossman? Make sure he knows this is good. Make sure Talk to Stan Grossman first before you do anything. Yep. It's like, man, I mean, William H. Macy in this movie is like the most cocked character in all of Cohen history, I feel. Then Bouchemey also murders the guy another fucking, you know, it's off screen, but he murders another parking attendant guy, his, his nemesis, obviously. Oh, he gets that guy.

Yeah, he just, you think, is it the same guy you're really like to believe? It's a different dude, I think. You see the guy and he's just like, oh, you know. He doesn't even say anything because he just sees Busehemi bleeding from his fucking face. Oh, that's right. Open the fucking gate. Yeah. This is where Busemi goes to bury the money somewhere he would have no possible way to identify.

Yeah, like you don't see him like tie a red ribbon around the fence post or anything like that. He sticks the ice scraper in the up from the big. That's what he does. Oh, and this is now, correct me from wrong, the TV show season. one is it who plays is it Oliver Platt or someone? Yes, Oliver Platt. Oh no, isn't

Martin? Oh, maybe. No, Oliver Platt finds the money. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm trying to get it. Yes. Okay, I was just trying to connect the dots. Yeah, the first season actually really connects to this movie. Yeah. Oh, the first, the first season of the show, he finds the money from the movies.

Yes. Yes. Oh, weird. Okay. And then Billy Bob Thornton kind of plays another type of Stromere, Unstoppable Killer. That I, That I vaguely remember. I really only kind of remember that first episode where like Martin Freeman like winds up accidentally killing his wife or whatever happens there.

Yeah, that'll that whole thing. That's interesting. That's great. The first, yeah, I do love, so Bussemi realized it's like he's got all this extra money. And then when he goes back to Stramer, he's still, it's like such a thing we're like, dude, just don't nickel and dime this guy. This guy's a maniac. He might kill you anyway.

Give him what he wants. And you're still going to make out with 900. you know you have all that money dude you know what you can do you can buy all the ugly ass raisin colored motherfucking cars you want to because that's the thing that's crazy they get in this fight because storm air is like well you know i'm taking the car and they're fighting over it and you know buchemi's like well what do you want to do and stormers like you can give me half the value of the car and i'm going to take it and it's like again buchemi see the forest for the trees here man you got that fucking suitcase buried out on the side of the road

give Stormair whatever he wants and ensure you will never see this guy again in your life. But that's not what an idiot would do. An idiot has to do it this way. But that's what all of us watching the movie who are just a little bit less of an idiot are screaming at the television. But it's great because

that's what the $4 is, right? That's what this sets up perfectly. This guy does not like feeling like he's getting ripped off one way or another. He just has a code of his own and blah, blah, blah. And it's going to lead him to peril all the time. Meanwhile, my favorite line in the movie is we split the car.

How do you do that with a fucking chainsaw? Are we square? Are we square? I love him talking through his closed teeth is amazing. That all this insanity is going on and we get a brief look at what Margie's up to and she's in a hearty's drive-thru going, hello, is this thing on? Yes. Oh, man.

And there's the great, the great little scene that sort of winds up putting her even closer onto their trail is when it's not Lou, it's the guy who comes to the buffet to give her the information. The other trooper, yes. He's like, he's talking to this bar, the bartender

who's like sweeping the slush out of his driveway. Oh, and I told him this ain't that kind of place. The whole thing about like, he says, we're going to get a little action around here. I says, what kind of action are you looking for? He says, you know, ladies or whatever that line is. I'm going crazy over there at the lake. He keeps telling

me, I'm going crazy over there at the lake. So that would be the river lake over there. No, actually, that'd be the moose lake closer to here next to the bar. Yeah, he says the bar is closer to the moose lake. I love this interaction and this dude's got like a push broom that he's like

finishing off his already shoveled driveway with. And he's got this house that's like next to a factory. It's a very interesting locale. He says, what do you think of some kind of jerk? But he doesn't use the word jerk, you know what I mean? Yep.

Thought I should call it in. So I called it in. End a story. This is fucking Mr. Mora or yeah, Mr. Mora, I think is the character's name. I love this guy.

This guy is straight out of American movie. He's waiting for the search to get called, you know? And even this, like, you would think of this as a simple image, but like the way that they're covered and like the, the way their coats,

you don't see it. So you don't know anybody. Yes, exactly. It goes to everything they're talking about. out. You're totally right, Kevin, because when the cop gets out of the car, he puts up the hood and then like pulls it tight too. I mean, he's looking like Kenny from South Park with this thing. It's crazy. And it's just great because it just ends. He gives them all this information like, uh, cold ones coming in like, oh yeah, they're cold. And that's what you talk about in, in and around these areas. It's just, it's all about the weather. It's all about the blanketing snow. It's all about the isolation of it. And the geography of the area. Like, what's the difference between Moose Lake and like Angel Lake or whatever. The right because they're in the they're in the land of lakes so it's like you have to be very specific yeah no exactly you cannot just say the lake around these parts i will say you know i was watching this last night um you know on on my blu-ray and you got it in the in the ps5 uhd deck and everything it was looking great sounding great i got to say and you know obviously it's through nobody's fault nobody could have anticipated this but like you know high definition that is like When Bouchemie is peeling the, like, the paper towel or whatever off his face in the car right before he buries the money, you can see how the whole side of his face, like you can see the makeup that's applied and everything. It was like staring at me clear as day.

It didn't take me out of the movie. It was just one of those like, oh, yeah, sometimes it was hard to anticipate high definition. Yeah, they didn't actually shoot him in the face. Yes, I understand. No, I know it would be cool. Actually, in the script, it tells you to shoot Steve Bishammy in the face. It says it in the script. There's no typos.

Shoot them in the face. Sorry, Steve, no typos. It's time to die. You're going to the woods, everybody. Look, it's going to hurt, but it's going to work for the movie. You know that, Steve. Come on. Excuse me.

Are you a doctor? Are you a screenwriter? You're going to be well written in. Where are the Cohen brothers? you're going to be well written. Didn't I write my movie there, Trees Lounge? Wasn't that my script? I'm a screenwriter. So yeah, I do love

they get to this argument. In the middle of this argument, he just looks at Jerry Lindergarde's dead wife. It just goes, what happened to her? She was screeching. And that's the end of that character. It is wild. Like, you see the body on the floor and you see little bits of blood dripping down from like the countertop to the floor.

Oh, man. And then it was around here where Margie goes back to William H. Macy. And it's just like, again, pressing about the, like, are you sure the car's not from your lot or whatever? And he's like, oh, you want me to do a lot count right now? What the fuck now? Yeah, this is the great. I'll do a lot. I'll do a darn lot count. And she's like, what, right now? And he goes, you're darn toot. He just drives away. He's so fucking good. He's fleeing the interview. He's fleeing the interview. It's a great. I mean, he does have a point when he was like, ma'am, I already answered the question.

He does have a point. He does. She's got the great line because she, yeah, says all that. And he's like, yep, well, all the cars are there? And she's like, well, are the cars counted daily? And he fucking flips out. It's also great because she's just like, there's no. And this is again, talking to all the niceness and all the internal external stuff.

It's just like, there's no reason to be snippy, sir. Yeah, she gets, that's like as serious as she'll get. You know she fucking means business. And she also, I mean, the other. thing that sets him off too is she goes uh uh well can i speak with mr gustafson and he knows that wade is dead and it's like fucking god damn it but it's also there's a great police work stuff where she's just sort of like you know i'm just thinking you know this guy's connected to chef proudfoot and there's a missing tan sierra from your lot i'm just thinking they could be

you know connected and it's just like dude the way that she says connected she kind of like leans in a little bit it's exactly the way somebody would talk to you when they're serving you at denny's but it's also she has got this guy by the balls and she's a police captain, you know what I mean? It's the exact thing. It is amazing. She's carrying herself like a server at a diner. Exactly.

You know, like, oh, here's your coffee, hon. But it's like, I got your ass nailed to the wall motherfucker. Stop lying to me. Oh, and why don't you save us all some fucking time and stop lying? I almost forgot. I just checked my notes that in that she was shrieking a scene. We got our Bruce Campbell cameo as a soap opera actor on television. And, you know, the, the I and DB says that that is actually archival footage.

So has it ever been determined where that came from? You know, I don't know. I tried to. Any featureettes on that, Steve? Didn't get there. Did not get there. I googled around and I could not find the source. I think I read years ago that there was like maybe a soap or a daytime movie made in the area.

Oh, and that would make sense. Bruce Campbell's like a Michigan guy. Right. It's like it could be possibly a concurrent to Evil Dead or maybe even before. for i don't interesting the ramees and the coens were brother we're buddies right they yes they um what uh what do they work together on crime wave crime wave was the thing yeah apparently look when when ramy did simple plan the coens gave him some pointers kind of a thing oh because that movie's like cohen like kind of the coens helped him edit one of the evil

deads as well something like that that's that sounds right yeah yeah yeah that's a cool little filmmaking community. Absolutely. I like that. When you watch fucking Blood Simple which I did, dude, I got I'll tell you, it was 11 o'clock at night, I was pretty stone and just put on Blood Simple on HBO Max and I was just like, and I hadn't seen it like 20 years, I'm like, this is a movie. But it's like

it's kind of a midnight movie. You know what I mean? It's kind of amazing. It's a Cohen Brothers movie for sure, but it's the closest one that is kind of a midnight movie. I've only, I've seen that movie precisely one time and it was a very long time ago. Do yourself a favor, do exactly what I just said. Incredible movie. Yeah, no, I I think you just planned my Saturday night, Steve.

Steve, what was the end credits on that one? Was it the four tops song? Oh, yes, it was, actually. Nice. Okay, that's my preferred version. There was, I believe there was a DVD or VHS release that had dream lover, which I think might have been their original intention, but I prefer the four tops, or do they change it for the, I don't remember.

Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch is, I think, in both the versions I've seen. Yeah, there's like, what's the deal there? there's is it a director's cut of that movie or what was there's multiple additions it's just it's just the song there's a licensing thing for a while so they took it out for a while and they put it back in I guess but

great movie and also Eminem at Walsh is amazing oh dude that's the most terrifying that guy's ever been I mean we should do that movie eventually and I'm sure we and Franie McDee is amazing in that movie yeah yeah and day as a fucking gorilla that they met

they found me in the wild I was eating a bunch of a bunch of bananas. Share, where are my bananas? You learned me to a band with a bunch of bananas. I was a gorilla. I got struck by lightning. Now I'm Dan Hedea. Now I'm on cheers. Oh, they're teaching me sign language here. Okay. Here we go.

Yeah, Dan, good gorilla. Oh, man. The biggest problem, like the big, one of my biggest life regrets is I was working on a really bad movie as a PA and I had to go back to college. it was a shot over the summer in Poughkeepsie, and I missed the one weekend that Dan Hadea worked on the move on. Oh, that sucks. Oh, that would have made the whole thing worth it. Exactly.

Was he there for one scene? I think maybe one or two, yeah, Chris. It was very brief. So, yeah, we have the whole, we sort of touched out a second ago, but this is, he's fighting with, Bashmi's fighting with Peter Stormere about the car. He starts in on him about that. And the great-ass line of, uh, oh, by the way,

want to talk to your friend Shep Proudfoot. I'm going to nail his fucking ass. And he just storms out. He goes, are we square? And he shows him the gun being like, dude, if we're not, there's going to be a problem, which is not the dude you threatened, by the way. Absolutely not. Just like. No, him showing him, like, opening the jacket and showing the fucking gun in his trousers,

he signs his own death warrant right here. We got to say, though, the fit on Bushemi in this movie, this fucking turtleneck with the saber-tooth jacket, ooh, baby. This coat that he's got in this movie is something. else i don't think i've seen a coat like it i like it i would outside of a comic book if he didn't die in this movie i would like to believe that this was the origin story of his character from armageddon oh shit i mean it would make sense right he's got to like shag ass get out of town just go work on an oil rig secret millionaire going to space yeah that'll get me way way far from

my crimes up in fargo let's do it proud but can't find me in space here's the thing it's mr pink he escapes the end of ours of our dogs. I mean, he pretty much gets arrested if you really listen to it, but you don't know for sure. Right. Sure. He escapes right. He gets to the Midwest. You know, he's still a criminal bouncing around. Uh-oh. Now he beats up with Gergensen. Gersen gets it all this Fargo mess. Now that turns out to be a big problem and oops. Now I'm in space. Absolutely. They're mining and drilling on the moon and suddenly Shep Proud shows up and starts whipping him with a belt. He's in a space suit, but he's whipping him with his belt. son of a bitch.

You fucking little weasel, you fuck it up again. He set me back to Stillwater. Get up, you piece of shit. He starts beating up the Martian neighbors. Oh my God, I'd love that. Dude, in space, Shep Proudfoot, can't hear you scream. Shep Bradfoot straps push me to the bomb that's going to blow up the ass, right? He sends Bruce Willis home.

Yeah, you know, Bruce Willis, I got someone else who could do this job. oh man storm air just coming at him with an axe and it's the great like bouchemy hears his you know footsteps in the snow and he turns around and just screams like texas jane saw this is fucking leather face man it just it's yep it's all one shot you don't see it coming

it's scary almost yeah it's also like you know the shining yes exactly yes very much and like storm air is wearing the fucking huge hat like he just is so menacing like and then yeah you just bouchami like you know they they cut like right on you know the impact of the axe or whatever. It's so great. And then Margie's just like

yeah, I'm just going to go check out by the lake that lead that the other guy found there. I'm just going to check in there. There's the car. There's the car. I love, she's so excited. She spots this piece of shit tan Sierra car. Oh man. And of course, you know, she

goes around back. And I love the way that they introduce what's happening here. You're seeing her come around the side of the house and you just hear this noise and it's like What could that noise be? I mean, it's interesting, too. Like, I yearn for a time where I could have seen this movie without knowing that. Like, because, like, this movie was such a pop culture sensation. Everybody was talking about the Woodchipper that, like, I knew what happened before I saw the movie, which was a bummer.

Yeah, you're waiting for the woodchipper kind of a thing. I don't remember the first time I saw this. I know my mom was really into it because my uncle is from, or is not from him. somebody he settled there and like she my mother has visited there a couple of times and every time fire comes up she's like stephen that's how they are that is that is how they are just like she will not stop like all right all right the woodchipper two that that's part of it that's just how that's what they do to each other up there this movie also made steve steve busemi a household name yes this was the real breakout despite having great performances earlier there was even that terrible 90s song she likes me for me

there's a lyric in there that and that guy from Fargo I think his name is Steve oh yeah right yeah oh yeah right are they saying Fargo because also there's a lyric in there where you know not because I look like Leonardo

yes yeah it's a DiCaprio line in that song she likes me for me I'm one of my favorite movies and you're ruining it as bad as that song is it's still kind of an earworm Oh it did 100% is

That came that song came on Every once in a while We'll be like making dinner We'll put on like a serious 90s channel And that song came on a couple weeks ago And I was like fuck yeah This dumb ass song fuck yeah But yeah I mean

And this is you know I made the note here But again like Margie just makes like Not a single misstep and her police work like everything here including wouldn't you know it shooting this dude in the leg so he can still manage to be arrested and pay for his cry that's what like what would you think like because you don't see you don't even see the wood shipper first you see the blood all over the snow what right would you think that was this is such a dumb way to dispose of yeah it's insane i'm like you leave evidence everywhere so yeah yeah let's put it everywhere

put the fucking body everywhere a bloody mess is what i want to make this meanwhile like there's a frozen lake right there dude go find a saw and cut a hole by the time spring thaws it out you're in mexico yep and that dude is fucking fish food man they're not fine and shit but you're storm bear the thing is there i don't even know if store bear has the the competence to go to mexico he's staying right there with the body in the leg yeah because he just like looks at things and destroys yeah that's it that's his there's no there's no like thought process there's no long game there's this is my like adjacent for he's moment to moment yep you're totally right and i mean that's why whichever one of you guys like made the comment that he's like a proto and on sugar like that's exactly right because it's like stebe bushemi is basically a like paired with the angel of death in this movie i'm just imagining stomer's staying there two weeks later like hey uh it's your neighbor from across the lake there do you have a problem with some cranberry juice or something just uh notice in it's a it's a big mess you got on the side

of the house. You spill some jello outside? I'll loan you some paper towels there if you want to clean up that mess. It looks like the Kool-Aid man exploded. Did you just tip him over there? Is that what you did? Looks like the Kool-Aid man came by and slipped on the ice and spilled a little

there, huh? He won't be saying, oh yeah, no more. Oh, you taught that sentient can of juice a lesson there. Oh, dude, that's kind of crazy, right? Like a regional Kool-Aid man? Oh, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm from the fucking Bronx already. Oh, I'm a fucking poolie.

I'm a big pitcher of juice, motherfucker. Oh, yeah, bro. Coolade. The coolade in Fargo tastes like fucking pickled herring. Oh, crab juice and Mountain Dew, man. So, yeah, this is the great, like, she's talking to him in the car, driving him back, you know. I guess that was your accomplice in the woodchipper fucking great great thing here you realize like she goes through like all the people that he killed in the movie and it's five people and you do that math man he's taken lives for 8K a soul oh dude yeah that's you know what I mean God damn killing five people for 40,000 dollars ooh and he's going down for all of them so you know he's going down for I they never mentioned the parking lot attended but I'm sure he's he's tied to it you know the dad eventually. They'll tack

that guy on for sure. He's not I don't know if the death penalty was around in Minnesota at the time, but he's going down, dude. Yeah, one way or another man, this guy's rotting somewhere either in hell or prison. Yep, and I hereby pardoned Garag Gunderson. We're sorry for the

way the state of Minnesota's treated you, buddy. We're also paying for your flight back to Sweden. All right. yop extradited to Sweden for other crimes you know they don't say it

but Greg Gunderson makes the best beet salad and all of Minnesota it's actually Garad Grimsrud my bad it's like it sounds like a fucking Harry Potter character

yeah oh yeah and then she's it's just like the great like and here you are and it's a beautiful day I just don't understand it like fuck she's great

in this movie. Def deserved that Academy Award. Oh, for sure. And she's just staring out. I'm saying Did she win for this? She won, yeah. She won for this. They won for Macy. Macy was also nominated in loss. Who did he lose to I'm curious? Because that's a tough fucking room.

That I don't remember. They lost best picture to the English page. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, which is still a movie I've never seen because the description of it on Seinfeld was more than a nice. You could watch that movie a dozen times and you wouldn't remember a of it. Like, it's just such a boring, long movie with, like, yeah, good performances, but my

God. Okay. So, yeah, I just, I don't, you know, any of those, like, uh, the 97, oh, the 97 Academy Awards. Oh, boy. Here we go. Wasn't this the year of Uma Oprah? Because he's flying in the plane. Possible. Uh, oh, uh, well, it was, it was, he, he was referencing, I think I remember this bit now that I'm thinking about it. Like, he was referencing when he hosted and did the Uma Oprah thing, because it was Billy Crystal doing his, like, intro bit, and they did the plane bit from English patient, and it was Letterman, if I'm remembering this right, Letterman is flying the plane,

and he's just like, Ouma, Oprah. Oh my God, that intro is amazing. I really like when they edited people into the movies. Those were always fun. You would go to junior one for Jeremy McGuire. That's what it was. Yeah. He beat Ed Norton for Primal Fear,

Macy for Fargo, Armand Mueller Stahl for Shine and James Woods for Gose and Mrs. Dippy. Well, that's fine. I mean, I honestly, I mean, I think, I think Macy maybe was the more memorable performance for me. I haven't seen Shine, but I know Armand Mooler Stahl is also a good actor. And I think Primal Fear is probably one of the best Norton roles. Yeah, it's a great role. Freds McDonnell and beat Diane Keaton from Marvin's room.

Chris and Scott Thomas for English patient. Emily Watson for breaking the waves and Brenda Bledon you fucking morons for secrets and lies fucking ingrates Can I ask you a question Steve? Steve, have you seen secrets and lies? I never will.

I never will. You know, I still have never seen the English patient but Kristen Scott Thomas was great and only God forgives and I think that's a great movie. Sorry everyone. She's like the mom in that movie. She had a shit some for a while. Oh, she was great. She still is great. Yes. Yeah. So

we get yeah i mean we we do get uh jerry fucking getting arrested and just outside of bismarck man he's still in fucking north dakota just outside of bismar this to me i love that he doesn't have a ton of money it seems he's like going by a fake name like the cops are knocking on the door uh mr anderson is that your car outside yep is that your tan sierra mr anderson Geez, I'm in the Gash Dern Matrix. I should have taken the Gash Dern Red Pill. I love the little hotel manager who's like, well, I'll just unlock the door for you, police officers.

This may... And yeah, they run in. Oh, it's so humiliating. This may be the most saddest, like, genuinely saddest thing I've seen in all the Cohnberg. It's gutting. It's like, oh, God, man. He's sobbing into a fucking motel bed. And you could just tell, like, he had this idea of what the ambition of his life was going to be,

and it's just gone now. Yeah, and he turned out to be a family annihilator. His son's never talking to him ever again, that's for sure. Right. I mean, the grandfather's murdered, the mother's murdered. So I think what's going to happen is Scotty is going to be adopted by Stan Grossman, and it's going to become like a citizen cane. Oh, that's right, dude.

He's fucking working for the bank for the business bank. He's going to be valedictorian, fucking captain of the hockey team, the whole bit, dude. He's got to go, he's got to fucking straighten up and fly right. Now remember, Scotty, we're not a bank. There is a man. Scotty Lundergaard's the man. Scotty's not interested in OILs, real estate, or shipping. Wait, I said that out of order, but you get it.

Scotty's interested in hockey. Scotty's going to buy a hockey team. His last words are, white snake. What does it mean? What does he get at with that? And after he's so pathetically fucking arrested, we just have this really nice final moment of, you know, Margie back at home with John Carroll Lynch in bed, you know, just just another day. Like just another day on the books kind of thing. He loses the paint. He gets second place for the painting contest for the stamps. Like, oh, they're going to put it on the three stamp there. And he's, and he's, you know, he's genuinely bummed. It's like, oh, that's pretty amazing. People use the three stamp whenever, whenever they change the post. I yeah that's like the greatest like she's able to find the bright side of this stamp thing to right like totally right as well like those people are going to see your mallard norm I think you should be pretty proud of that and you probably got a big fish up ice fish and I think norm is fucking awesome it's it's also perfect to put this right next to the macy scene because like you can see that John carroll lynch has that ambition thing in him where he's like he he is kind of pissed that he got second even though it is an honor and everything like that.

And she has to be the one to like, don't buy into that world. Don't do that. Right. I mean, that's what's great, though, is like he has someone like Margie to do that, whereas Jerry did not have that support from his family, not from his wife. His wife seemed okay. It just seems like he was an asshole.

He was never going to get, let his wife have that kind of relationship with him, I think. Exactly. Well, but I feel, no, but I think it's definitely a thing, though, whenever it's coming down to whether, you know, oh, I have to choose. like the you know opinion or idea of my husband or the opinion and idea of my father she's going with the father every fucking time and that's that's what i mean by that like she she might be a totally great you know wife and everything like that but like she just you can clearly tell it's like where daddy will always come first so like yeah but he he doesn't have he's also a piece

of shit because he's just oh yeah he allows that to get under his skin when he really just shouldn't fucking give a fuck it's it's certainly his fault i'm not trying to absolve jerry lundegarde of that but this movie is kind of like the argument is like listen people like jerry need to be more like people like norm yes just fucking drink go to the fucking gophers game get a fucking ticket up by your you know whatever like joy yourself yeah come a normal guy yes and i think that sort of and then the last line obviously is like you know norm i think we're doing pretty good here which is a a beautiful line it's super warm and it does sort of bring the whole movie together and then they're going to bed and this is what what I got this viewing only is you know norm's like two more months and he kind of

pats her stomach like kind of hopefully and then she kind of almost exasperated a little nervous like two months and it's that's the two her reaction to two months I've always read as like super hopeful super like yeah it's so not the nice the family but I think like she's a little affected by seeing a man in a woodchipper like what is this world that I'm bringing this child into well exactly right it's like it's two more months until our lives changed forever right and it's like you can do all the prep you want but yeah then it's that question of like two more months until what we're bringing another soul into this to fucking possibly put in a woodchipper someday there's kind of parallel paler parallels there

were like no country for old men with Tommy Lee Jones's character as the aging sheriff and and her of like can you believe this fucking world it's yeah it's more hopeful but yeah it's it's it's closer to no country for old men than not even but you know what you mean, in that way. But it's also the fact that, like, that's all they're thinking about is two months. Whereas, like, somebody like Jerry Lundegar was thinking about years ahead, was dreaming of this future. And they're like, no, just get through the two months. That's all.

You're totally right, dude. Like, let's just take it a step at a time. And she never tells me about Mike Yanigita. You don't know that. You don't have that scene. So, like, whatever, you know, again, she didn't want to do anything, but it's there. Like, she was looking around a little bit. But now, like, Mike Yanigita.

is now the fucking is slime. Oh, my God. You don't bring that up. Like, you don't bring up Steve Bissimme. You don't bring up Mike Nantigita, who was a certified stalker at this point. Yeah, totally. At that point, it's like, that becomes work now.

Mike Yanigita is fucking renting his own wood chipper, dude. Don't worry. It's into like Paul Bunyan, like the myth. Like, we all create our own myth of ourselves. And it's depending on, do you buy into it? Or are you allowed to separate yourself from that? My myth, by the way, is very good. It's going to be on the Gleap Clossary.

yep who's it and i mean yeah bunyan is i mean is great because it's an axe that's obviously what uh what do you call their uh stormair uses you know what i mean it's it's it's all there oh babe the blue ox there yep oh man this movie it's one of those things like and this happens to me a lot on on we love movies specifically is like i go into these shows and it's like yeah i'm

fucking you know of course i love fargo and then like talking about it with you guys and like expanding all of these ideas even more I'm like coming out of this episode now that we're you know it's over with like fuck that movie's even better than I realized yeah solid agree teamwork reading these movies together

and I you know I think for sure this is universally it all holds up I mean I'll say one thing I wanted to just a quick anecdote about showing this movie to people I once screen this movie

in like a film 101 class that I was teaching and this is maybe like five years ago or so at this point and like they're all like you know 18 year old college kids and like it first it was a real like oh you mean the tv show so I wanted to fucking turn to sand and die immediately yes but like what was great was you could just tell they had never seen anything like this movie and the reaction I remember having this thought for the first time when Stormair is stalking the two people

who flip the car and he's just like shown the brake lights are really the only brake lights and the headlights are the only lights you can see so like he's bathed in this red you know so I was like telling them things like you know these are how you read movies like this red

light is bathed on him it's like a sort of you know evil incarnate you know possibly the devial kind of thing and you could just see them being like holy fucking shit you know so it's like this proud papa moment for me like these little kids are learning to read this movie this way um but yeah

I will say this movie has what we didn't even talk about to see but it has one of my favorite shots of all the 90s and that is the aerial shot of Macy after the meeting walking back to his car to scrape the ice off of the front it is like one of no words just

like frustrated grunts and squeals and every every moment of his life is a struggle And it's all in that image, too, of, like, he's walking back to through a path he made for himself that went off the tracks. It's incredible. It's amazing. I got to say, because we're not talking about the movie. But I saw the most, I've seen a bunch of people, you know, celebrities, et cetera, you just bump into them here and there in New York occasionally.

And that a huge deal. Oh. I was at a restaurant in Brooklyn. And I saw Steve Buscemi. And I was like, I'm going to get arrested tonight. Tonight's the night. get fucking arrested. It was just like, fuck, that is.

I mean, like, and just it was, I was so shocked how, like, enamored just seeing that man in person was. And thankful, and like, I'm just really glad that I, we already paid our bill. He just came and he sat down. He was getting a beer and food. And I was like, I have to leave him or something. Yeah. It's just, it

I don't want to ruin Steve Bouchemy by him saying, could you fucking leave me alone, please? You know what I mean? Like, that's the last thing I need. And magnetism of someone like that, I could see being drawn into that fire as a moth myself i got it i got to tell you a near like almost catastrophe that i averted here my i was at i was at brunch with my father and we were just talking and francis mcdorman and her kids come in to have brunch now my dad likes to go and like say something to celebrities he's one of those guys your dad likes bothering he does he absolutely does he once you know

now I'm sure he he he doesn't like the story being told but he once saw Kevin Spacey in a hotel and said Kevin. And Kevin Spacey just kept on walking as is his right at the time. So your father kidnapped her children. That's true. No, no, no. So my dad's like, oh my God. You see what that is?

And he's like, I got it. I'm like, no. I'm like, dad, don't do it. And he's like, come on. It's Francis McDoward. I'm like, don't do it. She's with her kids. Leave it alone.

And like this was a five minute conversation. I had to have with my dad, him on the ledge about to jump. I'm talking him down. I'm like, come on. Just come back to me here. Yeah, that's my story. Wait, so you were, you succeeded though, right? He did say anything.

Your father wasn't arrested moments later. And I looked over at one point, and you could, I looked over at Fredson's Vodora and she was dart in her eyes at both of us. So I was like, yeah, they could always smell those miles a mile away. And when they have children with, you really got it back off. I remember I was walking around the Upper West Side once. And I was just like, you know, just loitering around a park like I do. And it was probably before we recorded and I was killing time.

And I saw Richard Kind with one of his children. And Richard Kind, like me and Richard Kind made complete eye contact. And his eyes said, come on, man. Come on, man. Yeah, exactly. Come on, man. Yep. Not today.

So I didn't today. There you go. well friends i think that brings us to the end of those snowy road here this has been fargo uh of course uh made by the cohen brothers um as always here and we hate movies uh you can catch more exclusive content over on patreon dot com slash we hate movies oh oh oh oh it's been 10 years we got to do a little little thank you to everybody who's ever oh sure this is a decade of this crazy bullshit and none of it could have happened if people didn't care we don't have cachet outside of this show we didn't we we didn't bring fans to the show fans found

it fans made the show yep to that i think every single person is that exactly you don't absolutely there's no publicist booking this one folks that's true you know like this is for you by you i'm saying like you elevated this show to be where it is now which is still on the margins but thank you yes yeah if it wasn't for you we'd all be driving tan sierra's fucking ripping off our absolutely i do want to mention that you know this week we're also dropping our three hour and five minute episode on lord of the rings that's right that's that's right if you are listening to this uh on the day it comes out which is a tuesday uh y'all can enjoy that episode on the patreon yeah like this thursday i do believe uh which was that conversation gave me life i have to say

gentlemen that it was it was long but it was fucking fun man and you know if it's to learn anything from jerry lunderguards mistakes it's that take every day at a time and have fun however you can so there's a lot of patreon content that's going to be spread throughout the month that is awesome we already have the gleep glossary on master yoda himself that's right uh that's a wild slightly disgusting 41 minute conversation full animation damnation on batman mask of the phantas and one of my favorite things ever and that's about 80 something minutes or 80 minutes so definitely check that out as well

on the $3 level. And then we got another big boy on the Nexus this month, Eric. That is right. I think it's, I think the raw recording was two, 57, two hours of 57 minutes on Star Trek 2009. We have not yet gone through the editing process, but I am very excited to share that with all of you. Absolutely. And, you know, as always here on the show, we roll on. We Love Movies Month continues next week.

Steve Sadek, we got a big one. what's going on on the program next week. It is Batman Returns with our buddy Jamel Bowie. Oh, yes. We always love having Mr. Bowie on. This is going to be a lot of fun. We're all big comic fans. We're all big Batman fans. This is going to be quite the conversation I am looking forward to. The best superhero movie.

My opinion. I think you might be right there, Chris. Really? I'm excited to reappraise it because I feel like 89 might edge it for me because... Oh, my 89. About 1989, it was also on the edge of the decade. It's true. Oh, there you go. So until next week, when we're edging over Batman movies, I'm Andrew Jupin.

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