We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 530 - P.S. I Love You
Episode Date: February 9, 2021This week on the show, it's a special episode just in time for Valentine's Day as the guys chat about the absolutely abhorrent rom-com, P.S. I Love You! Who in the world would plan this all out and fo...rce it upon their grieving loved one? Why did they think powerhouse dramatic actor Hilary Swank could pull off a goofy romantic comedy? Why not just hire a couple of Irish actors here? And is Harry Connick Jr. playing a serial killer? PLUS: Look out for this Hellraiser-themed urn! P.S. I Love You stars Hilary Swank, Gerard "American Mike" Butler, Harry Connick Jr., Lisa Kudrow, Gina Gershon, James Marsters, Kathy Bates, Nellie McKay, Dean Winters, and Jeffrey Dean Morgan; directed by Richard LaGravenese. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week on the program, wow, this one is shocking in its stupidity.
It's P.S. I love you. I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek. Eric Siska.
Chris Gavin. And we hate movies.
Hot Nasty Six.
Hello, everyone, welcome to the program known as we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right.
humdinger, folks. It's P.S. I Love You from Aught 7, directed by Richard LaGravenais.
This is the one of two movies he wrote and directed that also starred Hillary Swank in the
year of Our Lord 2007. The other one is Freedom Writers, sort of like a more vanilla,
dangerous minds. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my rule holds 2007, best America movies and worst
American ladies. This is horrible.
This is stunning. I was shocked by this.
Hey, PS, my love, there will be blood.
Hey, PS, this isn't a country for old men.
P.S., Michael Creighton.
P.S., the social network kind of works, not really.
Knock, knock, it doesn't work. It didn't.
work man i mean so let's get right into it this is based on a book written by an irish woman
that is set entirely in ireland and this is gerard butler famed scotsman playing an irish guy
good god what's the difference same thing you've got you've got to just either we've talked
to this off the air like either get an irish guy which is a better idea yeah or just make him scottish
And it's fine.
They can go to Loch Nass and shit and meet his mom, the monster.
That sounds great.
I really like that one.
Early shape of water vibes.
And I'm not even saying like, oh, there's no difference between Scottish and Irish.
There clearly is that's the problem.
But like, you know, they're close enough geographically and like, culturally where you
could just be like, just transpose a lot of those things to Scottish and it would be totally fine.
But it doesn't even matter.
Like, you know, it doesn't even matter that they're like, I guess,
you're making the argument here that they're like close culturally like because they could this this could be
anyway it doesn't matter like yes what they what they choose to take from the text uh you know from
cecilia a herne's book and put into this movie the irish part doesn't fucking matter aside from
the fact that yeah he's doing like an irish wake thing kind of yeah uh at one point but like it
doesn't matter like they can be fucking canadian they could be from lithuania it doesn't matter
Yeah, people drink when people die.
It doesn't fucking, you don't have to be Irish to do it.
You know, Andrew, I think Lithuanian-Canadian is the route to go because that's exactly what Bill Shatner is.
Ooh.
Is that right?
I believe so, yeah.
And it would be great to see him in a property like this.
It definitely would be, dude.
I'm taking a roll away from Kathy Bates.
Got you back.
I'm your mother.
P.S. I love you.
See, yeah, that, like the way Gerard Butler keeps ending the letters in this movie, they do sound like the cadence of William Shetner.
This is like producer.
The Irish thing is a producer brain thing.
Like that wild mountain time, like, there's this thing about like, they're like, it's romantic, inherently romantic to be in Ireland.
So Scottish is not though.
Yeah.
Even though it's like highlights and everything.
Like it would be just as beautiful.
But they're like, no, no, no.
Everybody loves Ireland.
But it's like, and I mean, like it's a New York, they turned into a New York story.
and like immediately
it's like really
it's like sea level friends jokes
a lot of this stuff is
oh yeah well I mean you got one right at the start
that's like it would have been right at home
on an episode of friends where like
they're like they're fighting at the beginning
of this movie Hillary Swank and Gerard Butler
and there's one act play that you have to
fucking sit through before the credits seriously
and she says something about like
you know oh the only other like
guy that I dated
I only dated one of the guy before you
or something like that. And Butler's like, ah, yeah, Timmy Harrison. Isn't he a woman now?
And you're just like, dar-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-n-ha-ha. It's fucking so stupid, man.
It's a little late. 2007, a little late for that shit. It's a lot late. It's just, I mean,
like, and so much of this, like, the humor is that is like just like this kind of like
pseudo-crass New Yorker jaded bullshit.
Yes, that's exactly right. I think that was a section of Blockbuster back in the
I read those movies
I mean it's just
it's stunning the screenplay
like there's a bunch of those clunker jokes
like I think I did write a couple of them
down but after a while it was just like exhausting
trying to keep up with it
guarantee you that like in that last
season of friend when like Matt Perry and
Courtney Cox are having discussions he definitely is like
you're gonna make me sleep in the
bathtub again aren't you
just like Gerr Bartler does it just beginning
thing where they're in a middle of a fight
and it's just like
they both look so ugly in the beginning of this movie.
I don't like either of these people.
Can I go now?
You know what I mean?
Yeah,
it's like some fucking like film school graduate who is obsessed with John Cassavetes
and was like,
what if I did what Cassavetes did,
but it was really shitty?
Yeah,
with a friend's script.
Do a Cassavetti's kind of movie with a friend's script.
It's awful.
Oh, hey, oh, hold on, hold on.
It doesn't count because we were on a break, okay?
they're married at 19 is that the idea she was 20 and he was 25 I think is the idea
wow yeah they she met him at 19 though yeah he really he was really like going for it
yeah that it doesn't seem uh advisable I want a teenager
yeah it's this big like stagey production of their argument
about whether or not they want to have kids and like all this you know all she's not ready for kids
because guys this apartment they're in is way too small they've got to get a bigger apartment
they just find a bigger apartment this is so aggravating and i don't even understand how this
fucking happens this is just people in l.A. that have no i have never been to the city of new york
or something never not once in their fucking life because this is outrageous you could park a truck
in this fucking apartment and also sleep and live happily
I mean, Steve, you mentioned it before we went on the air that she has like three living rooms attached to each other.
It really is.
I don't understand.
Did they buy the neighbor's unit and blow it up and stand it?
Probably.
That sounds about right.
There's like a full ass like West Elm dining room table set in this apartment.
And it's like, if you can fit that in and you're still able to like walk all around it comfortably and not when like Kramer's trying to play pool at the Costanza's house.
Like, you're fine.
You're totally fine.
By the way, if anyone listening is complaining to themselves about us talking about New York's shit, put a bag over your head and throw yourself down a staircase.
Also a good idea.
Yeah, a little help there.
The problem is, like, something like Jerry, like, you can just see, like, Hillary's just like, Jerry, Jerry, I cannot, I cannot bring up a child in a place that doesn't have a fifth office.
She even says like, where are we going to change the diapers out the window?
There's nowhere to move in here.
And I'm like, your bedroom is bigger than most places I've ever lived, period.
Yep.
Your bedroom is massive.
And like the problem with Hillary Swank, she's a good actress, but she's also like,
she's a dramatic actress.
Like, let's just call it what it is.
She's an intense dramatic actress.
No, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When she tries to be funny or cute, she just looks confused.
Well, there's a part in this movie, I don't remember where, I mean, we'll come to it when we get to it, but there was one, oh, it's like when you get the flashback of how they met in Ireland, and it's supposed to turn her, like, and Chelsea made this comment, I think it's totally right, that they're trying to give her, like, a character that Julia Roberts could nail out of the park.
Yes.
She would totally hit it out of the park with this character.
But, like, when Hillary Swank tries to be, like, funny, romantic comedy, like, in this, like, meeting scene specifically, I was like, why are they just making her so stupid?
all of a sudden.
She just becomes a moron.
It's terrible.
It's like she got kicked in the head before every scene.
Yeah, like their apartment's so small,
she leaves the bedroom and goes into the barn room to milk the cow
and gets kicked in the head by a horse that they have in this giant apartment.
You could, they could have a, oh, could we get a dog, no, you could have a cow.
You could literally have an actual cow.
Yeah, yeah, easily.
put it in the second bathroom
come on do it this place
I'm sorry I keep saying
but it's humongous
it's just like there's a foyer
there's a huge living room
a dining room
a huge bedroom
and a bathroom
that you could like
fucking take three shits in at once
hating each other
the three people
all around to take it a shit
that's amazing I mean yeah
you could have like
you know like the dorm room
bathroom that they had on the hall
you know
where it's like you got three stalls, three sinks, and like two showers or something.
You could totally fit this in here.
This apartment isn't as big as what I'm about to reference,
but it definitely reminded me of the totally insane apartment that Courtney,
or not Courtney,
so Gordney Weaver has in that second Ghostbusters movie.
Where there's like fucking, like,
there's, looks like an office for a detective agency's door at one point.
Inside, she's got like a door with like glass windows all in it and check.
like just stunning she looks like she has a macdonald's in there for crying out loud i mean the problem
this the problem is also that like what they're talking about is so fucking is like just vague
boilerplate platitude shit yes like just like baby work baby work baby work baby work and that's
she's a she's a real estate broker we're told and then like are we told what he does but he's
he also just i don't think there's a detail other than he's got a shitty career
He has, he owns a car.
Yeah, he owns a limo company
with James Marister. That's
right. Jesus Christ. Try to
remember that. I mean, it doesn't matter
but like, because she's upset that
he took out this business loan
and blah, blah, blah, blah, got into all this debt to start
this new career or
whatever. He used to be a limo driver, blah, blah, blah,
that's part of this very, very long sequence.
And the question becomes later on
when she's like fired and stuff, I'm like,
how is she keeping
this apartment? Like, you know
mean like like this is two thousand for for more reference points here of how insane this is okay yeah
he has a like a floundering limo company and she eventually gets fired in this movie not only is
this apartment massive this apartment is massive in the year 2007 on new york's lower east
side much de narrow at this point ladies and gentlemen very expensive i'm just going to say
drug dealing yeah that makes sense it's the only thing that makes sense
Kathy Bates is drug dealing
in giving her money.
Or I don't know, man, yeah,
your business partners with James Marsters?
I don't know, dude,
what's in the trunk of those limos?
Third question,
third possibility,
and I mean,
we know that he dies
of an aneurism or whatever
or a brain tumor.
What if he slipped?
Ah,
I slipped and fell out of Wendy's.
You're going to be okay, love.
I died.
You can leave off me Wendy's money.
I'm going to take Dave Thomas down
from being.
of the grave.
Every day I'm going to write you a note to tell you
what the order at Wendy's.
It's going to be free.
Never a Frosty. There will never be
a frosty in my house.
I slipped on chili at Wendy's.
Now I'm dead.
Why do you even have it?
Who's getting the chili at Wendy's?
And she's set for life
because this dude died in the Wendy's lobby.
P.S.
get me a sack of nugs
and put it on me tombstone
I need a sack of nugs
to pay the both men
she goes to
put a nudge over each one of me eyes
she goes to the burial site
starts crying she's like
you can get the spicy chicken nuggets
any time now
it's not a limited item anymore
dude
forget the fucking Irish wake
dude how about a Wendy's wake
everybody bring their own fucking value meal combo to the
that is dark disgusting
that room would smell so bad so quickly
yeah you need the three shit bathroom for that
yeah yeah because first it's going to smell like wendy's
and that's going to smell like wendy's shits
and it's just going to be bad
because then it stinks up the whole place
you know you're not thinking about the smell
of the rotting corpse on the pool table
but it is burning your lungs
I'm imagining
then they have they
they end this by having funny sex, which
I never, like, movies do that
we're all, like, cackling and then we have sex
to get, like, no, man. No, it's just like
pissing your pants,
pissing your pants laughing
at these, like, sexy shenanigans.
It's like him, he's got
like suspenders strapped to
his boxers and then like,
ah, I got one in me, I
he like fucking smacks himself in the face.
It's the chuckle fuck.
You're totally right. It's a chuckle fuck.
Yes, indeed.
Oh, I.
got no time for these chuckle fucks dude yeah look it's serious as a heart attack with you guys
absolutely man look down to business she warded off his calls for hot nastice sex so now you get
chuckle fuck that's the that's the other one you go yeah here's why this i mean for several
reasons of course but like one reason why this movie is completely unbelievable is because
here's a real panty dropper line i'm not your dad or don't ye know
that yet.
Yeah.
Good God.
That's like a nuclear thing to say.
Could you imagine having a fight with your wife and saying that?
Like, you are, that's one for the holiday end.
That's what that is.
It's a one way ticket to the holiday end.
Enjoy it.
They've got good stuff there.
You know what I mean?
Like you could do a little continental breakfast the next day, but you're going to the fucking
holiday in friends.
Yeah, dude, I was going to say,
Ack looks like it's the continental breakfast again for me.
And that night when he checks into that holiday end is when he goes,
to Wendy's and the, you know,
the reaper finds.
That's what the fatal slip happens.
Honestly,
there's so much chili all over the floor.
It would be better than a brain tumor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Snap your neck at a Wendy's.
Yeah, absolutely.
And exactly.
It'll illustrate how fast you can go.
I mean,
the brain tumor thing,
they just skipped to him being dead,
but he had all this time knowing he had a brain tumor,
I guess,
and setting up this elaborate,
I will live forever scheme.
Yes, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, and the movie, obviously, very, very pointedly skips, like, the chemo and all the horror of that.
And, like, and that's the thing, too, is, like, that's a horrible way to go.
And it's a long, drawn-out process, all that stuff.
And when you know what you can't have if that happens?
A funny funeral.
I've never, I will walk right out of a funny funeral, dude, like, because it's not funny.
It's never fun.
It's never like, man, you know what I want?
I don't want people being sad at my funeral.
I want it to be a pretty big party.
no one's having a good time of your funeral, nor could they.
No, it's bad enough I get forced to have a good time at regular parties.
I mean, come on.
When you put me in the ground, what I want you to do is play Dennis Leary's asshole.
It'll be hilarious.
Come on.
As the fucking pine box gets lowered into the ground.
It's me Irish heritage.
Everyone's crying at Chris's Graveside.
Asshole, yo, yo.
He's the only old.
one who really got it.
I just, I don't, I mean, like, I know people do this and it's, I mean, it's more of a movie
thing, but I know it does actually happen, but like, it, it's, it doesn't work. Like, your
enemies can have a fun funeral for you, but your friends will be pretty upset. I mean, like,
the time for a fun funeral is when it's a really old person. Yes. Right? It's like a life well
lived, yada, yada, yada, yada. Sure, you want to fucking yuck it up. Great. But like, there are people at this
funeral, you know, or this, you know, wake, whatever we're doing at the family bar
here, where it's like the one-liners are flying like it's fucking cheers. It's bad. And like a big
joke is a priest dropping the F-bomb. And that, God damn it. And not just the F-bomb,
the, you know, ends with a T. Yeah. Yeah, the homophobic F-bomb. I mean, it's one of these
things where, oh, no, fuck is just fuck. That's not an F-bomb. Yeah. The little old
grampies at home who are listening
this by mistake. All the
octogenarians that listen to We Hate
Movies. Yeah, they're out there.
It's so frustrating at this
part because they're like, all right, everybody,
the little memorial we're doing
here for Jerry is about to get underway.
First, we're going to play
his favorite song. And it's
of course, because this is all
people know about Irish anything.
It's like, well, it has to be fairy tale
of New York by the Pogues, right? I'm like,
what the fuck? Get this Christmas
this song out of this fucking funeral.
You couldn't even get a deep cut.
Like, get me a weird poke song
from like, rum
sodamy in the lash. One of the ones that not
everybody knows. It's this.
It's this or that fucking
going up to Boston.
The dropkicks, do you have to be. Yeah. That's the only
two Irish-American-esque music.
Or into the mystic by Van Morrison.
Oh, that would be something.
It's too deep, dude. Yeah. And like,
it is, it's weird
because again, like, that line isn't that
song everybody knows it you know what i mean like but to hold on a priest that he's singing it
singing it like because he gets to say it it's kind of weird and but and then the joke is like
could you believe it the priest is the one that said the slur isn't that funny a priest using a gay
slur isn't that fucking hilarious and it's all like a good vibes thing like he's just so happy to
be singing this song with all his friends here while this fucking corpse rots next to him or a box of
fucking ashes, I mean.
An amp of ashes, Chris.
Dude, this thing looks like the Hellraiser puzzle box.
This urn, where we're told that she designed this urn,
Ah, hey, babe, I'm getting ready for me funny funeral.
Could you make me a custom urn?
Something that looks like a prop from a horror movie,
or maybe a bondage porno.
That's what I, look, if you, like, you know, like,
it's a couple years later, you're like hook it up with this Hillary Swang character,
and you get to her apartment
and you see that box
you're like, oh, this lady's nasty.
Yep.
One of all fucking lube and whips
are in that box, dude.
Yeah.
Toy chest.
It looks like a whip box for sure.
We should set up a little bit that
we're at Kathy Bates's bars.
Teddy's one of my favorite bars
in New York City, in Brooklyn.
It's one of your classic Brooklyn
for New York situations,
but it's a great bar.
Are we not saying that
this is Brooklyn, I'm pretty sure we are.
Because we keep saying, like, we talk about Brooklyn, like, it's a far off place.
And later when they go for a walk, it's definitely they're just in New York when they walk out of the bar kind of a thing.
Which part where they go for a walk?
Kathy Bates at the end, when they're walking.
See, I thought that same thing, dude, but that's Prospect Park.
It's not Central Park.
Yeah.
But even that's like, that's a fucking two hour walk.
It's nowhere near Teddy's.
But I was surprised that it's a, it's a, I rated this movie half a star on letterboxed.
And the half star is for using Teddy's in this movie,
an old hangout of ours.
The last time I was in Williamsburg,
I think it maybe even ate at Teddy's.
Yeah.
But it's weird that it's allowed to just still be called Teddy's.
Yes.
So it's like it's not,
Kathy's.
I mean, yeah, exactly.
I don't know.
It is kind of cool.
But yeah,
so we're having this funeral at Teddy's.
I do want to quickly remind people,
you're hearing us complain about New York geography a little bit.
If that bothers you,
put the sack over your head,
put yourself down that flight of stairs.
Uh-huh.
but it's okay but it's okay to like a movie though right yeah of course but this is a good rule
with thumb Chris it is we're introduced to my favorite character in the movie the barback
he's not even a bartender it's harry conic junior in this chilling chilling performance he's
eating faces in this movie dude I don't know how else to break it to you oh this is a fucking
cannibalistic serial killer in this so much scarier than what he's doing copycat
Just by many measures, but much more frightening.
The writing is on the wall everywhere.
Like you said, bar back at like 40 years older.
Like this is like he just got out of prison, which is, you know, fine.
But like this guy, there's some red flags here.
There's a lot exactly.
Like I think he like is living above the bar or something, you know, or maybe.
I think it's like a, hey, Kathy Bates, you done for the night.
I'll lock up.
Yeah, okay.
Have a good night.
I'll see you tomorrow, Miss Teddy.
And then like the door closes.
And he's like, all right.
time to sleep on the floor
the floor squeaks
the door creaks
Is he Sweeney Todd now?
No, that's Oklahoma
That's the
The Villain sings that
Because he's also a maniac
Sleeping in an empty room
I mean it's
It's either he's eating cheeks
Or he's fucking like a Martha Marcy
May Marlene situation here
Oh you just got to he escaped a cult
Yeah, like he's getting deprogrammed or something
because the way he's acting in this
is just not acceptable.
Well, it's also a weird thing where like,
and correct me if I'm wrong here,
but are they not like making some sort of an allusion
to him having like Tourette's or something?
Or autism.
I'm unclear.
Some sort of spectrum thing.
Yeah.
Because like the first thing he says to her,
like she's like, oh, how'd your husband die?
And she's like, brain tumor goes, nice.
And then he's like, oh, sorry, I don't have a filter.
But then later on, it's kind of played off
like a joke because he's like yeah
just uh but I have this thing
but I could take pills for it and I'm like you can't
really take pills for I was
I was confused what they were going for
because they never name it
no and with that whole line of him
being like oh yeah I've got
a pill that because he really says
something like oh I take medicine and
makes me not sound like an asshole or something
like that and I was like well I can't
tell classically written
screenplay if this is
like a joke you're making or if this
guy has some kind of like condition
that I then have to like
take seriously or is it like
I'm an asshole yeah I got medicine
for being an asshole
I read New York asshole
I read New York asshole too and I tell
we're gonna play it if we're wrong we're wrong
you can yell at me on the internet but I think that's what it's gonna be
I think it's just a good excuse for bad writing
yes just like hey yeah so whatever he says
just believe it well it's also just crazy
then if Harry Connick Jr., you know he's like
all right man I'm playing like a New York
asshole got it
I'm a fucking serial killer now.
It's so bad.
Like his hair is like over his eyes and he's really quiet until he says something creepy.
It just like he moves like death itself.
It is really creepy.
And it's weird too because like I mean, hot damn,
try to find a guy with more charming charisma than Harry Connick Jr.
I'm not going to find it.
And in this movie it's like there's like an X-Man mutant standing off camera that's like,
my power is I can dampen Harry Connick Jr.'s charred.
Harry Connich Jr. has a line that's like,
I buried my dog in a stereo box.
Yes.
Nice to meet you.
I buried a dog in a stereo box.
You want to see it.
It's around the corner.
I just, I mean, he is literally more charming in the film copycat.
He is.
I can't, I can't believe his performance in this movie.
And I would say him and Sigordi Weaver have a more healthy.
your relationship than him and Hillary Slink in this movie.
I'm going to kill you, Doc.
I'm going to kill you, Hillary Swank.
I got my tooth knocked out the movie.
Hey, let's go to the Yankee Stadium.
I'm going to kill you there or something.
I'm going to break into your house and smell your things.
Am I joking?
Who cares?
Find out tonight if I'm joking.
Say, I'll make jokes like that.
Find out tonight if it's a joke.
If you don't like that joke, I got a joke.
a pill that'll make me better or something.
But if you do like it, I'll keep
it up. I'm eating all your toilet
paper, believe me?
We should say
too, we mentioned one. So there is
a little circle of friends
here. And speaking of friends,
the show, we get Lisa Kudrow
as one of Hillary Swank's friends.
Gina Gershahn as another, and she is
married to James Marsters.
And that is the
makeup of this hilarious
and entertaining circle
of familiars that she
has here. You're talking about Harry
Econic Jr. not playing in this movie.
Lisa Kudrow can play in
anything and she is doing nothing
in this. They really hamper
her with this like horny character
her and it just doesn't do
like she's horny until she's not
and then like the movie doesn't know if she wants
how much of a character they want to be. That's why they cut her
wedding out of the end of it. Yes,
that's true. It's a
thing where she like this is this is what you're supposed to know about this character
is she's walking around her friends like wake funeral reception whatever it is doing this
thing where like she'll go up to a dude and be like like there's the little checklist and like
with each dude she talks to we get more of the progression of the checklist which is ultimately
like are you single and if he says yes we continue and it's like okay are you gay if they say no
we'll continue further or do you have a job if they say you
yes, then it's like she's ready to go
and like that's the gag. It's like first guy
are you single? No, see you
later. Which is literally
a joke you would see in a friends or a
Seinfeld. Yeah, again, it's
friends because it's like gay, right?
What? New York City,
can you believe it?
I found a gay guy
in New York, weird.
Oh man, and all her friends are
also a decade older than her, which is
something. That's the weirdest. Yes, thank you,
Eric, because they are like,
Gina Gershahn and Lucy Kudrow aren't like
I mean they could be friends with Hillary Swink
but you do have to address at one point like
yeah we met at work
you know that's like just something like that because it's
not like these are not people that grew up
together because she's so much younger
than them what well it's a weird like I mean
I guess maybe because Butler
is partners with Marsters it's like
Gina Gershan's just in the circle that way
and we don't really know what the relationship is
with Lisa Kudra's character
I mean also like the relationships it's just there's too
much like because you also have nellie mackay as her sister dude what is this character it's really weird
i don't know what's going on and this is a this is a this is an actress i think she's also a musician
she's a musician uh mostly but yeah she also acts she's but she's english is what's important to point
out here because we are trying any which way we can to hold on to some sort of american accent
with this lady and i don't get this is cork it's quirk fest man you're saying she is hillary swank
sister? Yes. I thought it was
Butler's sister with that accent.
See? Yeah. I absolutely
did. It's very confusing.
She is taking this quirk
to a whole new level of this is an
alien with a skin suit on.
And it's just not for this movie either.
Well, she reminds me of the lead in a little
shop of horror is more than anything else. That's
where she got her American accent from.
Oh my God, dude.
That is fucking, that is
yes, that's stunningly
accurate, Steve. Sorry. But I also like
the idea of the alien and the human suit sugar water also I have a fan theory about this
character because she's like really heavy up top and totally disappears in the middle of
the movie I think Harry Connick Jr. kills her I think that's what that's absolutely
yep do we not have her by the time those end credits blissfully roll she's in a picture at
the end oh yeah that's a fucking in-memorium picture she's not in a stereo box out back
You want to take a look?
Take a peek.
Look, there was more room.
The dog didn't take up that much room.
So I put her in the box as well.
I mean, it's like you have this movie
where we're trying to do like a romantic comedy
and then it's also like
Ha ha, New Yorker comedy.
But then also like this other thing,
which is this one character,
believes that she's in some totally
obnoxious adult swim sketch.
Well, I think Harry Carter Jr. is like,
hey, Hillary Swank, you want to help me move a couch?
She's like, oh, I'm busy being grieving.
He goes through his sister.
You want to help me move a couch?
Yeah, sure.
I also love the song American Girl.
What's a couch?
Is that what you said, Chris?
Alien in the skin suit.
I like it.
I like you better.
You're right.
I like you better.
On my home planet, we do not have places to sit.
Why do you have that thing on your arm?
It's called a cast.
That's so funny.
You know, an alien makes total sense because they
observed Gerard Butler and they
observed Hilary Swank and they put the
voices together and came up with this.
Hello.
So, yeah, like, that's kind of
the thing. Kathy Bates is her mom. She runs
the thing and, like, you know, that's
the funeral. Any other funeral stuff? Because we just
get it to her grieving for a very
long time. No, and the funny thing is when she
gets home from the funeral, she's taken, dude,
she is taking this puzzle box around with her in this
movie like it's a fucking character.
it's a character in the film
she takes it home from Teddy's
and dude there is a thing where the box is
like set on
you know some sort of thing right at the foot of their bed
and she's staring at it and they have
Hillary Swank I mean it's just like
it's supposed to be
it was a long day I am just ready to drop
into bed but she's looking at this box
and she rips her clothes off so fast
that I was like she can fuck that box
it's an amp dude
she could go full Sibbion on that
oh my gosh
God, this goes up to 11.
Me fuck, box.
I think it's more likely that she attaches it to her stomach and makes it like a quato.
Oh, my God.
Oh, why do you miss Jerry?
He's right here.
Say hi, Jerry.
Box, box, box.
Start the reactor.
Well, there is.
So she's like home and like, you know, she's like feeling bad and stuff.
And then like, uh, Jerry is just on the couch playing the guitar.
I'm like, oh, shit.
this is a haunted house man
dude yeah i mean i don't know what's going on here
because it's like a weird she wakes up
uh she forgets he's dead at first
because she's like jerry turn off the light
and then it's like no no you're you're alone here
she gets up and like she's making
coffee did you catch this part where she's making coffee
no she's got two cups of coffee oh guys
she puts one on the urn oh no
she made coffee for the urn i swear to god
she's pouring it in there giving him dinner
strapping leftovers of the
fucking ashes are covered in trash
her family comes over
what's that smell
it seems to be coming from the box is this
is this a raw meat
in here?
It's literally just a
he's going to eat it later he's going to finish it later
it's fine don't worry about it
she turns his urn into like literally
like a butt stop she's just smoking
Jerry would like it that way
he always liked it when I ashed in his face
it was one of the things we did
look look he tried
to, he tried to quit, he tried to put on the patch,
and he just couldn't quit before he died.
But you're totally right, Steve.
At one point, she's like,
where's that guitar music coming from?
And it's just this ghost playing guitar on the couch.
Hey, love, you better stop believing in ghost stories.
Whang?
Cause you're in one.
Ghosts can play the guitar, but we can't tune them.
Would you tune me guitar or lassie?
Ach, we can only play shite music.
what is this song that he's playing this was a big pop i love you to the it was a big like uh like
a m rock radio hit for a while uh but it just like why not put like some like a universal song like
something they areitha franklin like sang or something like i think the finger thing means the money
probably but like you're just playing the guitar like i don't know if you need rights to like
do a cover of the song because it does sound like he's singing this you know what you could also do is
not play the guitar.
Also.
Also a choice.
But he's, remember, he's vaguely
a musician, which will come into play later.
But maybe, yeah, I guess.
This movie's just, it's longer than Star Wars.
I want to mention that.
It is longer than Star Wars. We don't need
every stupid scene like this.
You're totally right. So after
a while of like, you know, trying to
just mourn in her own way,
Kathy Bates and her circle of
friends here, they've had enough
and they're going to just invade this woman's apartment
and it couldn't come at a worse time
because she's like going through her shit
trying to deal with this however she's dealing with it
or not dealing with it whatever it's her business
you see what she's wearing
no what's that
Jerry's clothes
I know it's grief I'm not trying to make too much fun of it
but I am because it's like
I am Jerry now
I'm watching Jerry's favorite movie
A Star is Born with Judy Garland
apparently. And like Fight Club where she
was Jerry the entire time.
Oh, that'd be red because this means this
horrible character would shoot herself on the head
too. Yeah, maybe
take out a credit card company with it.
But yeah, they barge
in while she's singing and it's like
total douche chill and then
they're like, oh, you poor thing. And they start like
cleaning her apartment for her.
I mean, listen,
I'm not doing that for any of you guys.
It is really bizarre
And by the way
We have like transitions
Of like time passing
And all the font
That is down below
That says like winter
It's now winter or whatever
Yeah
It's like a Disney font
Yeah
Yeah it's way too happy
And I think it's the same font
They used on the poster too
Way too peppy for this like weird grief
It's supposed to look like
Handwriting but it looks
It doesn't
It's very cute
And I mean the movie
The movie opens with the camera obscura
hey Lloyd I'm ready to be heartbroken
which is like a big peppy song
like the lyrics are like heartbreaking
but like it's a peppy song
and I'm like this is just a two hour death march
also good call pointing out
the use of camera obscura here dude
because I was like oh
I know this movie to be shit
but maybe some points
if there's a good soundtrack
but that's kind of like the only good song
that's it's it everything else is garbage
it's kind of weird I mean also like
that's what the movie's trying to do
It's trying to, like, have it, not have it both ways, but like,
ah, grief can be kind of fun sometimes.
Can it's like, not really?
No, no, no, no.
We're trying to be uplifting and cute and stuff,
and it just, it just comes off as tone deaf.
Well, you know how grief can be fun is if there's a crazy plan orchestrated for you
to literally never get over your dead husband.
Yeah, that does sound like, that's where we are right here.
It ends up being, it's Kathy Bates that was helpful.
helping Jerry do this.
Yes, that's what we find out of the end of the movie.
And she acts like it's bad at first to take the heat off of her and says like this is a little much or whatever.
It's weird.
It's a thing where I think like she was against it, but it's like she's not going to turn down like a dying man's wish for assistance.
You know what I would do in that scenario is if he gives me all these letters.
Oh, yeah, of course, Jerry.
Yeah.
Of course.
Right when he dies, we're like, we're going down to Teddy's fucking furnace.
yeah dude's totally well all right you're you're fucking burned up in that box now huh won't be needing
these letters anymore exactly because she's not gonna get over it with this fucking scheme he's got
going i kind of always wanted to burn someone's letters i always get jealous at the end of the dark
night i'm like oh man no one's gonna read that letter but michael cane yeah oh man just like
knowing that you have not like knowledge that no one else will ever possess because the only one
who possessed it is dead.
Exactly, dude.
Burn those letters.
I'd be Michael Cain times 12
with these P.S. I love you letters.
Oh, man.
Kathy Bates just says,
I failed you.
I failed you.
And then what's that?
Is that Gerard Butler at a restaurant?
I don't be.
I always imagined
I'd see you in Italy
with a nice man.
And then I wouldn't say anything.
Nothing at all.
But yeah,
while they're cleaning up her apartment, ding-dong, there's a cake delivery.
Ew.
And it's like, ah, happy birthday from Jerry.
Oh, douche chill.
Aren't you fucking creeped out?
I hope you're hungry.
I ordered a hundred in pizzas.
Yeah, you're called 1-800 death cakes.
You're talking to Gibson.
How can I help you today?
Okay, you want to send, you're going to die soon and you're going to send something to your mother.
That's very nice.
That's very nice.
You want cupcakes, you said.
Okay, okay. Cupcakes that say, yes, I'm dead. Okay.
And again, this is probably more of Kathy Bates. She's, she is the real problem here.
Yes. Well, she's like the Shawnee Smith to his jigsaw is what's going on.
Yes, that's exactly right, dude, because this is a romantic comedy set inside the Saw Cinematic Universe. Absolutely.
This dude, this dude, Jerry is a, he's a fake Irish jigsaw right here.
because yeah
it's a cake that just says
happy birthday from Jerry
on the cake
and like Hillary's
like immediately like
um what the fuck is this
who's playing a joke on me right now
what this is disgusting
and it's like dude
I would be so pissed off
right here if I was James Marsters
because like here is this horrible thing
that happens everybody
is so uncomfortable
and immediately of course
the first thought is like
is this a joke and then everyone
immediately turns
turns to Marsters
and is like did you fucking do this
dude
Absolutely not. Why am I the death prank guy?
Oh, there's a note here. It says, remember death till I be part.
Not my death, yours. The games are afoot.
The games are afoot.
Try to survive the next 48 hours, babe.
Or else I'll be seeing you real soon.
Oh, there's a key inside this cake. Oh, did I say inside the cake?
I meant inside James Masters.
You've got to cut him open and get the key.
Bates is like knocking him out one night
and doing bad surgery on him.
There's a little sawdall
with the kilt on it.
There are cameras all over
amazing, a huge apartment.
I'm watching them in hell.
Oh man.
And he ends like, so he's like, you know,
some more information's going to be
coming your way soon, love.
And remember, you must do what I say.
Okay.
He's saying into this tape record.
to get the fuck out of your dead guy it's creepy dude like if you want to give her one big letter
for after like she you know like hey look these are the things i always wanted to say to you but
i never could i want you to get over this i want you to marry again i want you to fuck again i want
you have a great time one letter is totally fine no after a year of cotton mouse
no i like your idea steve it's much more like a much more uplifting movie love lisa
both movies made me want to sniff gas
seriously though dude
give me a fucking depressing ass
Philip Seymour Hoffman
indie dromedy over the shit
any day of the week
and just one letter that's all it took
for him to start huffing gas like a maniac
so his instructions in this first one
are like yeah it's ye birthday
so it's like she's got to go out
with all of her friends
have a good time go out with your girlies and have a good time that's that's the line
better not go finding any dudes out there also stay away from harry corick junior he actually
killed me he ate my fucking face he showed me his collection of dead cats oh man it would be so
funny if all of his notes were like you're going to solve me mad uh you're getting close
Oh, you're getting so close to how he died.
Remember, no police.
I would love if that was it, but like he actually just did die of cancer.
He just won't believe.
He's like, no, somebody did it to me.
Someone gave it to me.
Harry Connick Jr. slipped me to cancer.
Harry Connick Jr. pushed me at Wendy's.
He made me slip in Chile.
We were drunk, and he's like, hey, let's go get Wendy's.
I'm like, hey, great idea.
Then we get in there, there's chili all over the floor, and he pushed me.
I also think, and I can he prove it, but I think he spilled the chili, too.
He spilled it before we got there.
And over my dead body, he ate my baconator.
You ever watch another man eat your sandwich while you die?
He just takes it right out of his hand and laying on the floor.
That's my
That's my baconator
That's my
Blood's falling out
Of the back of his head
You won't need a baconator
Where you're going
Inside a stereo box
Gonna need a new stereo
I guess
The stereo killer
I like this man
Every three months
This guy gets a new stereo
I don't know what's up with him
The stereo
like it could be a really great
like gritty New York City horror movie
directed by some Italian guy. Yeah, totally.
Yeah, I'm going to need another
stereo. What do you got there? It's about
a six foot two and three hundred pounds.
I need a stereo box and I could fit
a dead Irishman in.
Human-sized stereo systems.
It would have to be New York in the 80s
when we're setting this movie. Yes, that's
actually true. A great wall
of sound. They go out and this
is again, and I mean like, the gay
stuff in this movie like what the who is this
for because they go to a gay club
and like there's a whole bunch of stuff
about like oh I want to
my colorist is gay he got
us on the list and like it's just
it's raining men inside here man
and I'm like what are we talking about
and there's a bad joke in here too where the guy
at the door is like oh a gay colorist
in New York you don't say
or something like
yeah dude absolutely
with these jokes I guess they're trying to be like
we're going to go out and have fun
but not be hit on so we're going to go to the gay club which people do just totally
fine but like the way the way it's presented is a bit rich it's also just an annoying
fucking sex in the city-esque situation every time jokes like that like go down and like even
like in a very serious movie they should just play the home improvement song like the little flute
Like,
Yeah, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah.
And it's also this weird, the weirdest part of this movie is her sitting down with all these older gay guys,
and they're talking about how they lost all their friends, I assume, to AIDS.
And it's like, what is this doing in this movie?
It, dude, I was quite stunned.
by this because I don't think there's any
other way to read that.
No, there's not. She's sitting around
and it's also very specifically
like a bunch of older dudes.
Yes. Right? And they're like, we lost
so many of our friends too.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
No, no. We are not
bringing up the fucking AIDS plague
while this movie is about a ghost sending this
girl on a treasure hunt.
Well, maybe all these men just went to
Wendy's as well.
Oh, we've had so many friends slip on
chili at Wendy's too.
Again, yeah, these are night owls, you know what I mean?
You get drunk, you got your friends that they keep, they got, they, the 59th street
Wendy's needs to mop their floor and put down a goddamn sign.
I know what you've been through.
My partner slipped on some broccoli and cheese, uh, topping for his potato.
Man, the baked potato bars killing people too.
She gets hammered.
She ends up going back to her mom's bar and this is where she's in like a storeroom with
Harry Connick Jr.
where he starts to unravel
all of his creepiness here.
This is insane.
It's also the closet where they keep
all of the Kampari.
Yeah, I noticed that.
By the way, Teddy's in real life,
I don't think you could find
a single bar of Kampari in that bar.
Single bottle, no way.
This is where he says
he had a hooker phase
at one point, right?
Yes.
Oh.
Well, get the friend's theme ready
because his fiancee left him
for another woman.
And the woman was his
other X.
It's just so dumb. And the idea like that would be so heart-crushingly worse or something.
Oh, and then also they were business partners.
Dairn-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha.
Fuck this guy.
And these little premises, these little fucking sitcom bullshit.
And he, yeah, he does say like, yeah, and it messed me up for a whole year.
And she's like, wow, how did you get over?
He's like, well, I had a hooker phase until I ran out of money.
and I couldn't get any more hookers.
Then I had to just start killing him.
Well, you know, there's just a detective up my asses figure
and putting two and two together.
I had to put that to stop to that.
Now I'm here.
What you do when you get the hooker
and then you kill her, you get the money back.
And then you put her in a stereo box.
And look, you have to buy a lot of expensive stereo equipment.
It doesn't really work out at the end of the day.
I'm deeply in debt now.
But, hey, let me tell you how much I love the music of Huey Lewis in the news,
and again, like, you know, seeing sex workers is fine and maybe he even had a thing about it,
but the way it's presented is this weird thing of like, what was he working out with these ladies?
Like, you know what I mean?
Also, I mean, it's positioned as a negative, right?
It's like, how did you get over this?
Well, actually added an addiction to hookers.
Well, okay.
Like, if that's what you had to do, dude, fine.
Also, what kind of money are you making that you could do that?
Yeah, deeply in debt.
I imagine he's like six digits in the hole.
And the fucking like button on this hilarious scene is she just vomits in this closet.
Which big mistake because you're not getting that smell out.
You see how small this closet is?
No way. No.
Unreal.
Well, she's hung over the next morning and this is where it's the only time we see her like doing her job at all.
Because I think she's like while Masters and Butler were business partners, she's
also kind of I don't know about partners but like she works for the same
realty firm as Gina Gershon because they're showing this place together yes and she's
like super hungover and shit and like yeah the the guy doesn't want to buy the place and
the wife is like forcing him to do it and Hillary Swank is just like stand up for
yourself Martin stand up for yourself but it's like what's happening it it's a thing that
like maybe if this movie was about something completely different you could have this
character do that at the end of this
movie? But like, I don't know what
like, you know, we're supposed to glean
for the she's like finding
what in herself here. I don't understand
I think the idea is like she doesn't
like she later on when we find out
what her real quote unquote calling is
it's like this is letting you know that this is not her
calling, I suppose. I guess
if she's like willing to throw it all away in this
moment, but how do you afford this lower
east side mansion you have?
But also they don't know what real love is.
Like she's lost real love.
She knows for real.
These two don't have it because, you know, the wife is bullying the man.
That's true.
Also, I was getting pretty excited here.
This apartment looked exactly like this Soho Loft and Ghost.
Oh, nice.
But yeah, I mean, and that's the other thing too, right?
She is showing this massive Soho Loft, her and Gina Gershan.
So even if you're splitting that commission down the middle, like, that's a fucking take, man.
And because they reveal the price or something.
It's like $3 million or something.
And this dude's like, oh, that's way outside of where we said we could go.
Also, I start getting the I'm tangentially watching house hunters shakes because it's a couple
looking at a place that they're going to buy and they're fighting over it.
And I just started having flashbacks.
Well, yeah, you're like, oh, they're going to get divorced.
You're like, oh, I'm watching house hunters again.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Oh, so you're going to argue about this house and then go straight to the divorce attorney
after this episode is filmed.
Yeah, I mean, like Hillary Stoick has.
has the Wendy's money, but Gina Gershahn
is struggling. Like, you gotta
help her out. Like, she needs this fucking commission.
The best house hunters
thing I've ever seen is one woman
wouldn't, there's like
absolutely, she's like, I will not have
a basement in my house. And like,
what a weird thing.
It was just like, I will not. And they
actually, the guy, of course, because of the TV,
they showed her a place in the basement.
She's like, I'm not, you have to look at it.
I'm not looking at that basement.
I'm like, what psychological
I got to say, if you don't have a basement, you know what's creepier?
That's what you have is a crawl space.
Yes.
Listen, people weren't supposed to be underground.
That's like being dead.
If you have a basement, you're dead.
That's what happens.
That's what the bye-bye man said he was going to kill me in the basement.
That's what it does.
Yeah, I feel like, you know, that person may have lived through like a Blair Witch Project experience.
that are they're just like one of these
west coast loonies right because
they don't have basements out there or at least
not as popular as on the east coasts.
Yeah, not as not as prevalent as we have them here.
Well yeah, because all their cousins are in the corner
just staring into the corner.
Yeah, exactly.
So she gets fired immediately.
After this face off, you know, it just cuts to her
like she packed up her shit
and is going back to this apartment, you know,
with all her office supplies together.
And then, you know, to get the passing of time here,
calendar-wise, ding-dong,
here is a, like, St. Patrick's Day
Leprecon balloon delivery thing.
And this is that dude, he's been in a bunch of stuff,
but he was on SVU for a while
as a medical technician, and they were like,
oh, you know what would be a good idea?
We're going to take this character
who has, like, a scene, maybe every other episode,
and we're going to make him, like, decide
that he's going to be a serial killer.
Oh, God, I forgot.
Yeah, because they really gave it to that dude.
Yes.
Like, all of us, like, he,
became like more and more prominent on the show
and then it was like oh this guy's like a mass murderer secretly
was he in christopher maloney's last episode is that how that works
or something like that maybe oh it could have been i thought he maybe lasted post maloney
oh okay possibly um but yeah so he's doing like some singing telegram thing and we've got this
joke here of like if i sign for this are you going to sing to me and he's like yes and i have
to otherwise my boss i'm going to get a bad review or whatever all
all of this non-comedy is supposed to be i don't get it i i don't understand why something like
this is here like i i really did just was like what what yeah no it's totally confusing because
it's well because you know why dude it's because this movie is not the movie that it thinks it is
so it's doing all of these things in the vein of the movie that it thinks it is and it just is
really awkward because it's so far from that kind of a move you know when paul mazerski like
diverts from the main plot line it usually underline
the thematic material.
This is just like, yeah, this is funny
stupid bullshit. Here you go.
Well, you know, he's an Irish
ghost, right? Write in these letters
and why Irish people
love leprechauns and stereotypical
song and dances.
Absolutely, dude.
And what this does here
is this letter that she has from him
sort of triggers this first
flashback and it's
him, like they're at a karaoke
bar and he's
really like commanding
the room here and she's
like not having it of course they're all
out together the whole crew's here for this
flashback but it's it's funny
because it's not really
karaoke because I don't see the fucking TV anywhere
like you know what I mean like it's not
I hate when movies and TV do this dude
you totally right like I am
forever staring at the karaoke screen
when I'm doing it like when you have
monitor free karaoke and pop culture
I'm like absolutely not this is the masters
of karaoke
You have to remember the whole song and you have to remember it all by beat and you have to like get ready to do it.
And it's amazing because like he, he's doing the thing like he does this great song or whatever and everyone's like going nuts over it.
And then, like, he drop and dude with his performance.
And like Marshall's like, get Holly up there.
Get Holly up there.
And I'm somebody in there's like, I put my name in the book an hour ago.
I put my fucking.
They've been up there all night.
You're not getting off.
You're so right to point this out, Steve.
because he finishes his song
and he's like, all right, now who's next?
Let's see.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
Someone has their name on a fucking list
and they're like, get off the stage,
weird sounding Irish guy.
Now it's my turn.
But he's like the MC.
Like, you're not responsible for picking
the next person that goes, asshole.
Come on, buddy.
My best friend here was going to do ever long.
Get off the stage.
I got the tumor.
It's okay.
Gina Gershahn went up there fucking twice.
It's my birthday.
This sucks.
And they're all terrible.
Except for that one weird-sounding Irish guy.
He was okay.
Oh, she's going to do total clips of the heart.
My song, great.
That's good.
So, yeah, he's like,
ah, look, there's my wife.
She's a real coward.
She'd never get up here and sing.
Hey, baby.
And not in the loving way.
I mean, you're a literal baby
if I'm not coming up here.
And then she like gets pissed off enough
to the point where like she comes up there.
What is she singing here?
A prince song?
It's the first song.
Sex thing or something.
I forget which one.
I don't remember which one.
But like and all of a sudden it's it's get off.
Get off.
Get off. She's singing.
All of a sudden it's like she's doing this like strip tease out of nowhere.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
Well, like just let her be mad and not do this.
Clearly you've never watched the Masters of Karaoke.
There's no rule.
It's just like you're stripping on stage
As long as you remember the lyrics
That's all that matters
She's trying to do the sex thing
In order to get the gold jacket at the Masters
We're back here for our programming
The karaoke masters
It's like dude
It's a gold jacket
But it permanently smells like rum and coke
Oh oh oh it looks like she's gonna do
The Joni Mitchell song
Oh oh no it's court and spark
It's court and spark
They've never done this before
They've never done this at a master's
Let's sit and watch
Tom is going to do the night they drove old Dixie down and he nails it excellent oh look at that
we thought it would be too long of a song for him to do for karaoke but there it is that was perfect
I would hate to be Dixie tonight because it got drove down that was wonderful oh and Gregory
totally blows it on Corns follow the leader and Paul has been disqualified for doing
Paradise by the Dashboard Light that's nine minutes long
Oh, look at that.
Michael is scratched this afternoon.
We have a scratch.
Turns out he came into the karaoke club.
Yep, those were lyrics written on his hand.
Oh, Outcast B-O-B.
This is just one of the toughest out there.
Toughest out there.
You just got to watch.
This is a 14-year-old master ready to go.
It's a sad day for sports today.
Not everyone quite.
nailed that and the miss scatting
and that follow the leader said
it's very disappointing that cost him par five
clearly he has not watched
you know David Samlett's unbelievable
performance of Got the Life last year
just goes to show that you have to be really prepared
to play on this course
I would watch that on ESPN Plus
absolutely
and I guess the other thing too is
they're really amping up the sexiness of her
singing here, just so
that when she falls off
the stage, it's all the
more funny. I guess.
And also, she breaks her nose.
We cut to her in the emergency room or whatever.
Dude, her whole face
is destroyed. This is, speaking of
saw, dude.
Destroyed. Also,
quick detail,
no reason to go back to it, but just to keep
score. The guests
that were attending that karaoke
night, it's
oh well she has to well
I'm getting ahead of myself
the two things kind of merged together
the two scenes happen at the same time yes
but you're right
this I mean her face is totally destroyed
it looks like jigsaw put a fucking bear trap on it
like and he's trying
to like make with the yucks here
like it's the golden girls
and I'm like dude
she like this is divorceable
oh yeah
this has to be divorces on the table
because the thing is she didn't want to go out that night
she was really like blah blah blah like she's like you know she had a long day at work and it's like come on you baby and then she like destroys her face forever it seems uh but yes so she keeps being married to him somehow and we get to like the present day now she's back on the treasure hunt everybody is back we got marsters gershan and yep the fucking black cube is there she brings the urn to the karaoke bar come on
got to see it you know he's got to be there to see it she opens a little window on it
it's this is a pile of ash with two eyeballs on it oh jesus dude that's a prop from peewee's playhouse
halloween edition god does anybody smell vomit garbage and raw meat oh it's coming from the earth
oh my god oh what's in here oh god oh yeah it's some uh chili fries for the box please
put it it just slip no you can slip it right in the top yeah i'm kind of with eric though
you put googly's googly eyes on this thing it's a few
Cute little prop.
Exactly, yeah.
Ah, my husband's dead.
I'm completely untethered from reality.
Untethered was indeed the secret word.
So she's singing the song.
She's singing the song that he plays on the guitar, right?
Yes.
I love you to the end.
Oh, man.
This song sucks.
Like, you can't anchor a movie to this song.
It's just bland shit.
it fucking sucks dude
and like we get this weird thing
where the bar clears out
and she I guess is really only
singing for the box but the box
turns into Gerard Butler
who's just like crying
at this table in this
fantasy sequence and I'm like is the ghost
crying what is happening here
dude and again like you're just like
oh my god this is my
it's my birthday and now this dead woman
is she's starting the night by singing
to her dead husband how am I going to
How am I going to follow this up?
How, what am I supposed to do after this?
You're like the unpaid dude who's like just volunteering to host the karaoke night.
It's like, wait, they started with what?
Oh, well, the whole night is sunk now.
Are you kidding?
You gotta do like 20 minutes of just jutebox after that.
Yeah, that's right.
You have to reset.
It's like, you know, dude, put the house music on.
I can't.
You know, everyone's in tears right now.
So for the next 35 minutes, it's nothing but Weird Al Yankovic songs.
We'll get back to karaoke when everybody's ready to laugh again.
Oh, we're also introduced to Dean Winters here really quickly.
Yep.
Always love a good Dean Winters sighting.
He like hits it off with Lisa Kudrow.
That's, but does he show up again until the end though?
No, he's kind of gone.
It's so weird to like make her like romance with him a real thing and just have these two scenes.
Because, I mean, the movie is too long anyway.
So obviously I'm glad there's not like subplots, but they just don't have subplots.
You cut them both out.
Lisa Kudrow doesn't need to be in this movie.
At least Chena Krashan is like tied to her office.
Yeah, exactly.
Like everything should be focused on Hillary Swank here and let's get out of here.
Kind of a thing.
Like I don't need this six-minute scene that does nothing to any plot.
And Marstores is married to Gershan, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
So that, yeah, that, but get rid of Lisa Kut.
I love her, but get rid of her in this movie completely.
I mean, she's too good for this fucking drek anyway.
So we do have these helpful little playful fonts that keep coming up to let us no time is passing.
We get to summer.
And this is the arc.
I arranged a trip to Ireland for you and two of your closest friends.
Wait, is that why all the money was missing from the savings account?
No, that Dave Thomas has deep pockets.
We're all going to Ireland.
I just, yeah, I mean, like the money to fucking just send three people to Ireland.
It's crazy, man.
Hillary Swick has, like, a shirt with the Wendy's logo on it.
She got all free merch from them, too.
Oh, shit.
Well, it's a t-shirt with a redhead on.
But, yeah, so they go to Ireland and great, great bit of helpful text here.
We spend, like, 10 minutes on, like, Ock.
I paid.
to go to Ireland. I paid for you to go to Ireland
with your friends. There's another quick scene
where Kathy Bates is like, I don't think you should
go to Ireland with your friends. This all seems
very unhealthy and I'm the only correct
person in this movie, but I'm also in on
it so I'm definitely not. She's the one
like buying, she must be the one like going
through the tickets and shit.
Yeah, all of that. The cake
delivery, making sure that all of them were
at the apartment, that fateful day?
Renamed this movie, P.S. My mom's a
fucking psycho.
That'd look great on the bog.
No shit, man. Totally.
Fucking A, dude.
Two for PS, my mom's a fucking psycho.
I can go to see that in the theaters, absolutely.
For Valentine's Day for sure.
You've got to go to another country for your ghost husband,
and then I'm going to act like I'm not,
I'm against it.
God damn, she's infuriating the character.
And the winner is,
Kathy Bates for PS, my mom's fucking psychopath.
But the crazy thing is so, like, just,
We do all of this.
We know the destination is Ireland, right?
The film cuts to, like, sprawling green countryside, and it just goes, Ireland.
And it's like, no fucking shit, dude.
You are making this movie for the lowest common denominator right now.
God damn it.
And he's also written, it's kind of great.
The best part of the movie is he's written letters for Hillary Swain.
Obviously, Hillary Swain, but no, for Lisa Kudrow and Jim.
or Sean. And they're like reading them
all together. Like Lisa Kudrow, it's
amazing. She's a great actress. She's reading
and she's just like, and blah, blah, blah.
That's so ha ha ha. He always remember
that joke. And she puts the letter down. I don't
know how you do this. And I'm like, yes, thank you.
Somebody. Absolutely right, dude.
Like, I don't know how you are dealing with
this creepy-ass ghost shit. I got
one ghost letter and it's more than enough.
If you don't do what
me say, you will pay.
And then like Hillary Swank's
all bumming at that point because they're at some like little Airbnb or B&B because it's
2007 air hadn't found its way in yet but like she's like oh geez you guys got letters from
my ghost but I didn't get one. They're like shut the fuck up and she winds up going to an Irish
club we get a flashback no you gotta go to me favorite because the other thing is they're in his
hometown that's right so it's like now we're doing the Gerard Butler highlights to her where
He's like, you gotta go to me hometown.
You gotta go to me favorite fucking pub.
And meanwhile, like, Gina Gershaw's like,
I kind of want to see where Ulysses was read, written.
No, you're going to me favorite pub.
You got to see the parking lot I smoked cigarettes in.
Classic hometown tour, dude.
The first bedroom I ever came in.
Here's the second.
I know it's a little trite, but I'd like to see the Blarney's done.
No, you fucking won't.
you're going to go to where we band played their first show
a fucking wreck center
it is so stupid
but yes and they're intercutting this
bar scene with when Hillary Swank
saw him play at this club and I will give this to Jared Butler
he's singing in this movie he's pretty good you know
it's totally fine yeah he's got a totally fine singing voice
maybe not for some
thing is on the scale of like
Phantom of the opera but
that was Schumacher's decision man not mine
rock singery guy
yeah poke's material it's about right
and then meanwhile
in the current timeline
we see Jeffrey Dean Morgan
playing Seattle's own
I mean I cannot
he's playing an Irish guy
he's terrible in this
and I'm always fine with
a little Jeffrey Dean Morgan but holy
mackerel is he bad in this movie the look is right at least like he's a hot guy in this sure he looks
good but like it's just the the voice and the what he's saying is a problem again there was no
irish people available at the time of film just get fosbender man it's 2007 he was around yeah he
wasn't big yet yeah but like he was a hunk he's an irish hunk he's probably a little too imposing
for this movie sure well you could you could put in this role we're because we were trying to
do the same casting thing while we were watching
this, right? We're sitting there like, all right, Irish
guys. And like, honestly, for what
the Jeffrey Dean Morgan character is, he was
still doing an IT crowd
at the time, but like a Chris O'Dowd?
Sure. Yeah. I was just like, oh, I'm just
kind of like a nice Irish guy, hometown guy.
Colin Farrell? Yes.
Colin Farrell could have done the
Gerard Butler. He came up as well in our conversation.
I got Stephen Ray.
Oh, my God. Jesus.
So instead, Stephen Wright. That's how we're going to
go. Okay.
top of the morning to you
k billy super sounds of the
irish emerald eyes
excuse me i have to sing this song it's just for you
oh i mean uh faith and begora to you
and such i love you till the end
uh so she sees geoffrey dean
they're like hitting on him and he's like
you know oh uh would you uh you know i have to
go play one more song and then maybe
you know we can hang out afterwards we can split
some of my lucky charms I have
with this accent. It's so fucking
bad and what's
also amazing and also why you should
be cast he sits down
and it's just somebody else singing. It's
absolutely not him at all. I check
the credits too. It's totally not him.
Is it also Gerard Butler?
It might as well be.
So he starts playing
he's also playing this Love You Till the end song.
Oh right? Oh right.
Oh, yeah, the Steve Earl, Galloway Girl song, the Galway Girl, yeah.
And she freaks the fuck out and runs out of the club.
Because that was the, it's the same song, that's right.
The flashback is him.
Gerard Butler doing a lot of crowd work in that flashback.
He comes off the stage with the guitar.
He's walking around the pub.
Not too shabby.
Maybe the best part of the movie.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's fun.
Again, like, yeah.
They don't have great chemistry, but he's doing his best in this movie.
Well, because this was right.
It was the, it's before Hollywood was like, you know what?
Yes.
Just do your American Mike type movies and that ilk.
This was like, well, the 300 guy also is like pretty charming and, you know,
got a good personality.
Maybe we can dump them in these romantic comedies.
Because wasn't the ugly truth around this time, too?
Yeah.
No, you're right.
2010 was the bounty hunter.
There's so many of these like rom-coms he was in.
Oh, right.
Yeah, the bounty hunter, speaking of friends.
2009 was the ugly truth.
Oh, yeah, so two years after this.
But also, speaking of Irish singing, what came out this year, 2007 also, once.
Yep, yep, you're totally right.
A slightly better movie.
Slightly better movie.
That's one of those movies that it's good and no one's ever going to think about it again for the rest of time.
Which is fine.
Well, it's off Broadway now.
Broadway's off Broadway.
Oh, that's been gone for a while, too.
the musical that happened.
So, yeah, she freaks out, she runs away.
The next day, this is,
I don't know what this scene is.
The three of them out on the fishing boat.
Well, the movie literally stalls out here.
Like, they realize that, like,
oh, like, we're going to go out on the lake or whatever.
And they're like, oh, shit, we just drop the oars into the water.
Whoops.
This is the dumbest shit.
You can see those oars floating.
Get your ass out the boat and get them.
They're right there.
two inches away, like, you can even
like probably lean out and get at least
one or. It's like, get out into the water
and try standing. Or you know what? If you can't
get those, use your hands. There's three
of you. Just start paddling. I promise you. It's a tiny
ass little wooden rowboat. I promise you you could
get back to land without the help of Jeffrey
Dean Morgan who comes to their rescue. But this shit is like a bad
three stooges. No, they're allergic to water. You don't know this.
but they are. They're allergic to water.
They're damsels and they need
some hunks to show up, right?
This fucking shit, though, dude.
It's so stupid. It's like sweeps shit.
Like, everybody's bored
with this movie. It's a downtime.
And they're like, uh, I'm getting married.
I'm pregnant.
Yes.
Dude, they are rubbing it. They are rubbing it
in this widow's face right here. On her
fucking, on her dead husband's death
tour, they're sitting in this boat.
And it's like, Gina Gershan, like,
oh yeah you're a widow well how about this i'm pregnant and then lisa kudrow's like yeah widow and
how about this i'm getting married so we can't die on this lake together you're on this grief
vacation and you're fucking you just talk about this shit you haven't like talked with each other been like
look maybe we shouldn't bring this up right now absolutely seriously they say it like i think um
jina koshan says it's sort of by accident but it's not by exit she's like ha if we stay on this
lake for nine more months there's got to be another person here oops did i say i was pregnant
That's exactly right, dude.
That is not an accident.
That's a calculated remark.
I'm glad to hear that they were completely silent on the airplane.
She was up all night with that line.
She was like trying to figure out something for like this.
She's like, there's got to be a way for me to get this information in there somehow.
Hello, a person to personal call to Bruce Valanche.
Hello?
Well, I want to ruin.
I'm on a, Bruce, you're the best.
I'm on a grief tour with my best friend.
And I want to stick it in her face that I'm pregnant, but also make it seem like an accident.
I've been there before.
Coming right up.
That'll be $9.
Hillary swanks back at the boat.
She's like, that sounds like a fucking Bruce Valanche line you just gave me.
You gave me B material for Lanch.
She knew it.
She knew it was you right off the bat.
It's so stupid, man.
and then like so they're just freaking out
and then Jeffrey Dean Morgan and his dad
who are like
the keepers of the lake here
and they're like just I guess they just
ride around in this boat looking for people that need help
I love that Kathy Bates takes a shine to this father
I'm talking about the last seat now
for some reason but like it's gonna turn into like
an all out family orgy
oh yes yep oh just wait dude just wait till
open house man everybody's fucking everybody
Because, like, when Kathy Bates looks at Jeffrey Dean Morgan's father, you can just tell the floodgates are going on.
Yeah.
Well, it's this weird thing where, like, they do that in movies sometimes like, oh, it's cute.
You can date the son and I can date the dad.
Like, no, it's not.
It's not cute at all.
It's super weird.
You're going to be part of a documentary.
Oh, dude, the BBC's right next door.
They're going to find you, dude.
This weird fucking sex all skate that this movie ends on, man.
Whatever.
Welcome to all.
in the family on the BBC network.
They're shagging each other.
The mom is shagging the
whatever. You get it. You know.
I was going to do it, but I'm not going to do it.
You know, my son, you know, my son, he says, he says, you know,
this lady, she gives me a boner. She gives me a boner.
And her mother might give you a boner.
Eddie's who's, uh, yeah, they say.
Sometimes, by the way, boners skip a generation.
So you have to, you know, very,
lucky if you get if it works twice anyway uh they wind up um they wind up back at the house and like
they feed jeffre dean morgan and everything he's so sexy so like it's kind of it's it's even
worse than the boat because hillary swank and lisa kudrow go upstairs and start cackling to
each other about their amazing new lives and like hillary swank's like i guess i'll get
drunk and fuck geoffrey dean morgan well they what is this there's some weird like situation this is
also kind of like the setup for some weird
horror movie, right? It's like, oh, I went back
to a house with these three ladies
in the middle of the night and they've forced me to stay
here. Yes. Because they're like, it's
late or something like that. They're like, you can
just sleep here. Why don't you just sleep
here? And then like, Lisa Kudra's
like, you must fuck this person.
He is here all
night. Like, she keeps yelling all night.
I hate to say it, but I actually would prefer
the reverse knock knock to whatever
the fuck this is.
Man, that knock knock is
unwatchable. Not even
my love for Keanu could prevent me
from turning that off. Bad, bad stuff.
It's trash. Eli,
that is what I was thinking of.
But so they
he's taking a shower and get a nice little
ass shot of him, not too shabby.
And she's like, ooh, and she's like trying
to pour herself a shot, but she like pours
whiskey all over the place because his ass is so great.
Oh, I've been there, dude. I would have done it.
And I can't believe it turns out. It's like, oh, you know,
oh, that was my best friend, my best friend. My best
mate
dude they were bandmates
gerard butler engineered this whole
thing so he could pass off his wife
to the bandmate billy gallagher
this is insane i mean not she's
she's got some lines here that are just truly stunning
she goes uh she goes
i haven't had a new man in 10 years
after i'm dead i'll deliver you a package
get ready to unwrap it
and like she's talking about like
you know like being in a
long-term relationships like wearing a
pair of shoes for so long or something
like that and I don't know if I'm ready for a new pair
of shoes and then his line
is a real stone cold stunner dude
he goes uh
how about going barefoot
a while dude it's my
Jeffrey Dean Morgan impression it's your close man
it's really I can't even
do you can't even do it justice he is
so terrifically bad at this Irish accent
but like his sexy line
she's talking about like relationships being like
shoes and he's like how about you just go bare
for a while. This is going to be a real raw dog
fucking. Yeah. First
of all, we need a condom, sweetheart.
Let's slow down. There is
another creepy line where
she kisses him and he's like, oh, wow,
you're awfully sweet. She's like,
oh, last guy that said that to me
said he doesn't date 13 year old girls
and he's like, lucky for you,
neither do I. And it's like,
ew, thank you for not being a
pedophile. Can we move on?
I was really unsure if I was going to
sleep with this guy, but then he confirmed that
He's not a child rapist and I was all about it.
So let me review my options.
This guy who might be a child molester or the guy that puts bodies in stereo box.
That's it.
Uh, take your pick less.
It's a world of terrifying hunks.
It's a monster party outside your house.
Maybe, just maybe like the person you go for next shouldn't be involved, shouldn't
have been involved with your fucking husband and you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be, you
date a guy that works for your fucking
mom. Yes. Well,
she doesn't find out until after they fuck
after the deed is done, dude, yeah.
By the way, that's intentional.
I think Jeffrey Dean Morgan's a bit of
a scumbag here. The way they
never shut up about this guy, the box is
probably in the room. Definitely.
Yeah, I didn't get confirmation on
whether the box made it overseas.
No, you know what, dude?
She was thinking about it, but then
this is 2007, all
those forums came out, like, what are you
transporting over overseas like you know and forget it. It was way too much paperwork to take
the box. Just scatter his ashes in Ireland and be done with this dude. I would be great. I'm sorry Lisa
Cudrow, you can't come with us. Your seat is going to the box. Yeah, because when Jeffrey
Dean Morgan says it's after they screw and he's like one of the funniest lines I totally cackled.
He's like, so tell me about your man who died. And this is where yeah, he's like, wait a minute.
no oh not me me jenny and like they used to beat a band together it's like irish wham
they shared everything dude that's exactly right stage time songwriting credits and women
i think it's just like oh man you know i always told my bud me me that he could fuck me wife
after i died so i'm gonna set up this letter writing campaign yeah oh man we had a bet if who whoever
to die first. The other guy gets to fuck
the other his wife. This is the end game
he's been engineering from this start
this twisted fucking jigsaw
motherfucker. She should have a was I
a bet a moment at the end of all this.
Oh yeah, definitely.
And also Irish Wham, man, if
replace the shitty poke song
I love you till the end. Get rid of that and
fucking put in like
wake me up
before you go go.
I don't hang me in alcohol.
I'd be into that. I'd be way into
Irish Wham. Big time.
Oh, so
she goes to visit his parents.
It's like, well, I guess I'll get the visit
to Jerry's parents out of the way.
Wow, what a great fucking... Also, his parents
skipped his funeral. Like, his dad
had a stomach ache or something.
I don't know, man.
Like, oh, no, he's surgery. I know.
I get it. But like, it's your
only fucking son who died at like 30
or 35 or something.
Yeah. You got to get to that fucking funeral.
I'm sorry. At least one of you. Like representation from the country. Yeah. Like, come on.
And the funny thing is the only thing that really comes from it is they're like, yeah, you know, we did kind of use to hate your guts. I guess we got over it. I don't know.
Well, thanks for visiting. She says, well, you should visit us more often. I'm like, fuck you. You're in Ireland. And you ghosted my husband's funeral. You can eat shit, lady.
also you're not like it's you don't have that social obligation anymore you're not part the family
is that what connected them is gone we're thinking about putting together a foundation in jerry's
name we'd like you to be a part of it I'm licking all these stamps
yeah that would be great look at the stamps in windies where he falls on the
What's your cheapest stamps?
We have the flashback here of how they met in Ireland.
And she's just like wandering the street trying to find a national park that she's already walking in.
Yeah.
And this is another 20 minutes off the clock because this is a long sequence.
This is useless.
Big time.
Useless, completely useless.
I don't need to see how they met.
Nope.
Absolutely not.
I know I learned nothing new here, you know.
It's just, well, he does have some.
creptacular shit where he's like
you know he's like
I don't remember what the setup is but he's
telling her how he the gist
is he just likes to
stare at women and get
give out what he
refers to as truth signals
yeah okay and it's just like I can just
look at a girl and make her
want to kiss me by sending out
I guess good vibes
I'm Dracula
yeah he's got this guy's got like a book like
the method or like fucking like dating for pros exactly yep he just watched a fox special
hosted by some dude named mysterio my favorite my favorite book is i hope they serve beer
and hell oh man get away from those guys um yes at jerry's really fun funeral he wants to read
the third chapter right to i hope they serve pure now i'm going to the bathroom
there's got to be one more envelope coming
it's the manuscript from me book truth signals
publish it
yeah oh yeah man make it a morvern caler
movie after this
yes dude yes
god damn it
so they meet and it's like it's it's a meat
cute there's a dog involved good looking dog here
appreciate good looking dog that he makes her think initially
she's about to be attacked by that's cute
and again like we said this earlier
and because like she's supposed to
will be playing really young too so like she is full on kicked in the head in this scene
she's just like oh my gosh is that a wolf and it's like i don't know dude you're a woman like
is that a wolf yeah you're a grown adult does that look like a fucking wolf to you
and he's like the whole time he's like whispering like arc all right now don't he move
because it's like a velociraptor it's gonna see you
oh the dog's coming this way and then like
like he man he plays this I think this is also
you can find this in his fucking truth signals book
he's like all right now it's a good idea
if ye turn around and face me
very slowly and like she doesn't they start making out
like she gets hip to it eventually but it does start with him
being like you're gonna get mauled by a wolf now
also I'm gonna die hump you in this Irish field
do they start making out
street and if you resist i sick the dog on you chapter three of truth signals eyeing the wolf
oh yep dude definitely and then like it's kind of cute where she's like don't tell me your name
if i if i walk into the right bar and you're there we'll know it's meant to be or whatever which i
guess is what you see earlier on when she comes in that's what that is that's right that's right
when he's singing Galloway girl.
So that's a cool fucking whatever mind fuck
from the movie P.S. I love you.
Great.
From the mind of Christopher Nolan,
it's P.S. I love you. Awesome.
And, you know,
time is a flat fucking who gives his shit.
Because of all the time jumping, man.
Like at this point, you know,
we're nearing the end of this two hour
and eight minute movie. And it's like
the meeting at the end of the, like I don't care.
No.
I don't give a shit because I,
already know they got
married, found love, and he
also is dead. After she
fucks Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I just couldn't
care. Like, after that, it's really
difficult to keep up of what is fucking
saying in this movie. Well, what's insane
is you watch a movie like
this and you're like, okay, you know,
like, structurally speaking,
the big trip to Ireland, like
the movie will end in Ireland.
Yes. And it's like,
you know, I had not seen this movie
until the other night. And so I'm like, okay, so now
like she's over there and
she's with her friends and she's going to form
some Jeffrey Dean Morgan relationship
and then all of a sudden she just goes back to New York
and it's only to
as far as I can tell
the only thing is to say now she's got
a job as a badass designer
and also be she ties
up loose ends with fucking Harry Connick Jr.
Pretty much except like
she goes into another like grief spiral
and starts like not communicating with anybody
again and that's like another
long ass montage of like
Lisa Kudrow calling her being
like, hey, you're supposed to be my
maid of honor, we need to make plans for this
wedding, and then Gina Gershan's like,
you know, and I don't know where James Marsters
was for this one, but she's like, I'd really love for you to
come to this doctor's appointment I have, like
for the baby. And then it's like,
oh, maybe I could also design shoes
all of a sudden. If I'm in your wedding party,
maybe don't tell me about
your great wedding on my
fucking grief vacation.
Don't like, do, like,
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
It's like, come on, hurry up.
Get over your grief.
It's a lot.
And like, it just, it turns into a thing where like,
she learns that she wants to design shoes.
And I'm like, dude, I've been watching this movie for an hour and 45 minutes.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Like, you know.
Absolutely, dude.
And you even see her, there's one point where she goes and does like some sort of
continuing ed class.
And I'm like, why am I watching her learn how to make shoes?
What is happening?
This isn't the cobblest.
Get the fuck out of you.
Pepper that in at the start.
Like, oh, I married you, but remember my dream was to design shoes.
And I never were able to because I need to support this fucking house, this giant apartment I need to support.
I need to give you health insurance, Jerry, because you're a foreign national with a limo company that is underwater.
Yeah, the Wendy's money is running out.
But the thing, it's funny how she discovers she wants to.
because like in the very long the meeting scene it's like she doesn't know what she wants to do but she wants to do something in art and like she never she never figures out she's 30 and there's this like Bruce Wayne becoming Batman scene like she knocks over his shoe and Jerry's like fucking suspender buckle is on the shoe she's like I shall become what I fear the most shoes
I do not understand it we've got to kill the shoe woman
why do we fall down master wayne because we're not wearing the proper footwear
it is so stupid and then she's like i guess i could yeah i'll design
shoes dude and then so we have this thing she's got to like make good with lisa kudrow and
shit and so you know we cut to kleinfelds because it's 2007 and say yes to the dress is all the
fucking rage oh yeah dude so we're at klinefelds lisa kudro is alone trying a dress on
no like you would find somebody man you're not going by yourself like Hillary's Mike is not the only person this woman knows and Hillary's Mike just walks into the store like sorry about that here's some shoes I designed for you get out of here and you stick the shoes up your ass lady yeah like I would like to design the shoes for your wedding oh I've already ordered them like four months ago yeah exactly because I'm getting married fucking next month or whatever it is you're totally right Chris I have like three sets I'm ready I got the reception ones ready you know the ones to dance so
I got those ready to go to
I don't need your shit
go away
she goes on this disastrous
date with Harry Connick Jr
around here
where they're talking
and she fucking calls him Jerry
by accident
dude this I yelled in my apartment
I was like oh
it's like so horrifying
to imagine this happening
and again it's like really late
in the movie and I was kind of checking out
I'll be honest she's like
that's really funny Jerry
and I'm like oh
not good dude
it is hilarious too because you know
your movie has problems when you were rooting
for the potential serial killer
a character because he's like
he's like you uh you think
you'll ever move on from Jerry or
do you need one of his letters to figure that
out and I was like fucking boom
is this where he takes her to
Yankee Stadium that's like the
next movement because they kind of break up for
a while they're like being friends
and then she gets the last letter
from Jerry and it's like
move on with your life yada yada yada
you should date somebody else and like he gets he gives her a call so she's like he's like i'll send
ye a sign and then like uh harry connor junior calls she's like that must be the sign i should
go marry that guy and she's a thing that happens right here too where it's like it cuts to
an establishing shot of new york and it's like christmas lights are everywhere you can see
christmas trees and stuff and it just again and you've worked your way into a corner because
you've been doing it for the rest of the movie so you have to do it here but it's
even dumber because you can see all of this other shit already on the screen and the text
comes up and just goes winter yeah got it thanks for anyone who wasn't paying attention to the
fucking christmas tree on your screen well this this scene drives me nuts because it goes to like
this movie does a lot of things where like you would think there's going to be big stakes
or like a moment of relief or satisfaction in this but they always upend it because they think
let's just do what they don't expect like the parents you expect there to be some big riff between
the father and the son or some shit like that and it's just like they were lazy and like this one
you're like oh she's gonna find you know she she's gonna find out that she likes a hariconic junior
and they're gonna have a nice little relationship and she's like she kisses him and she's like
oh ew no no no no he's like brother me too it's like kissing my sister what are you talk shut up
what do you mean by that end this movie this is your one note to end this movie on kiss and then end
your movie well and the funny thing is i mean like i'm
sorry, but you filmed
at the old Yankee Stadium
for this?
He's got some line like, oh, my uncle
can get us in here any time.
Exactly. Look at me. I'm
great. Yeah, my uncle
is the one who gives me all my stereo boxes.
Oh, you shouldn't heard that.
Oh, crap. Hey, you know, they're going to demolish this old Yankee
Stadium. I could bury you at home plate.
What? Nothing.
The whole, like, the kissing and like,
it's like we're brother and sister.
Kathy Bates should just be his mom. I don't know.
I mean, it's funny that you say that, Eric,
because this movie is so terribly written
that at the setup for everything,
I thought that was the case.
I thought that he was related to Kathy Bates
and I had no understanding
that Hillary Swank was supposed to be the daughter
for like the first 20 minutes of the movie.
So that's another PS, my mom's a fucking psycho.
Like, I just raised them separately
and I have this one work in the bar with me.
And I raised them separately.
They didn't know that they were related
and then they came together as adults and wanted to have sex.
We didn't know.
But it's like, we didn't know.
It's, dude, this week on we didn't know, we go to the Americas.
Oh, they fucked each other.
They didn't know.
What do you say, Kathy Bates?
I didn't know.
But you know, you're right, Andrew.
I mean, the movie begins, the problem of this movie is fucking, it's, it's much ado about nothing.
there's 140 characters
in this movie
like there does not need to be
there should be two characters
a friend and the mom
and let's call it a day
she also humiliates
harry conic junior
by making him read
this final letter
that she's already read
and knows what it fucking
exactly you you
you and he's like
I don't know man
you think she's calling you Jerry
now wait until you're fucking
that's exactly right man
but yeah
but they they kiss
and like it's lucky for her
because he's like oh it's like
kissing my sister
I can't kill my sister.
I can never eat my sister's face.
If I was attracted to you, I'd certainly kill you.
But if you're, if you're like my sister, then you, I guess you have agency and a soul.
Gosh, darn it.
See, the desire, it breeds the killing feeling.
And since I don't got the desire, I don't want to kill you.
It's very simple, really.
Kathy Bates runs in.
She's like, Daniel, what have you done?
You murdered your sister.
Oh, sorry, Mom.
I didn't know.
Gerard Butler is dying
and like Hillary's like
oh my God I'm going to be so alone
it's like all I have is my mom and my sister
and then he goes
there is another
oh man
and so yeah then it just
it ends with her being like
dear Jerry now I'm writing you a letter
and I guess I'll address it to heaven
are you going to throw it in the trash
when you're done what is this
I mean, there's probably got a fun little journal where she puts them.
I hope.
She's sticking it in the fucking cube, dude, so he can read it later.
Yeah, definitely.
And then because this movie is co-sponsored by Air Ireland,
we go back to Ireland with Kathy Bitt.
Kathy Bates, by the way, reveals that she was the one behind it all,
which is really creepy, which we kind of talk about already.
But yeah, now we're in Ireland, and she's like, mom,
mom's never been to Ireland.
We're going to go see it.
It's going to be so much fun.
And it's amazing because it's like, mom's never seen Ireland.
great you bring your irish mother to go see you know you know ireland totally great oh what's that oh you went
right back to the tiny hometown where you're dead husband exactly again james joyce wrote ulysses there
let's go fucking see somewhere else yeah dude i don't know maybe you stop off in cork maybe you had
to dublin i don't know dude but like this tiny ass town again we got to see the toilet jerry used
Yeah, important.
Well, we wanted to go to Kill Kenny,
but I had to see Jerry's fucking middle school.
And this is where she makes eyes
with Jeffrey Dean Morgan,
who obviously shows up again,
and the father.
And their eyes light up.
Kathy Bates is just like swimming downstairs.
And we are ready to roll with this family orgy.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know that it's going good, dude,
because she talks about earlier in the film,
how like before
their before Kathy Bates
husband the Hillary Swank's father left
them you know she's like oh I used
to laugh with your father all the time
and like you know Hillary Swank's like
I don't remember you ever laughing so then it's like
the end of the movie this old guy like
says one line or something and she
starts fucking cackling and then it's like
oh see life's brought back into
mom too I guess we're
and then like Jeffrey Dean Morgan's definitely
like hey how long are you
staying this time everybody's
over it and ready to fuck that's what the ending of this movie is well she leaves it open-ended right
because he asks her like how long are you staying this time and then she's like i don't know
maybe indefinitely i hope ireland like shoes i'm moving in with geoffrey dad morgan
oh my god uh this is uh hi my name uh jeff uh this is my father jeffery dad morgan
that is stupid Chris
I love it. That's really
great. That's like tattoo
where you just get Jeffrey
Dad Morgan on your shoulder.
And
the final line of this movie is she signs
off this letter is and guess what
P.S. I love you.
She doesn't even say it though.
It's like no. P.S.
Guess what? And it's like kind
of cute. Oh, is that? Oh, P.S.
Guess what? That's what it is.
Guess what? Jerry. Me, me, my
mom are getting fucked by Irishman.
We're honoring you.
Going for that Irish
D Jerry.
Oh, and then, man, you know,
it always, it will
somehow find a way
to take the wind out of my sales
even further. When you were watching a movie
like this that just fucking sucks
from sunup till sundown,
dude, and then you get to these credits
and this shitty movie is dedicated
to a dead person. Of course.
god damn it i would be haunting this film team for eternity oh absolutely don't don't put my name on this
piece of shit movie don't you be doing that shit don't do that don't put that evil we got flogging molly
we didn't get drop kick somehow we got flogging molly yeah i mean and that song i love that
fogging molly song if i ever leave this world alive it's it's great and in other better
circumstances i've shed a tear to that song but like here i'm like you're just poisoning a
another thing.
Poisoning another thing
that I like.
Just use one of the
Stock Van Morrison songs
that's not gonna like
you've heard it a hundred times
already.
You don't need to do this.
And that dude sucks.
Yeah.
At this point yes,
this guy does suck.
Oh shit man.
Would anybody recommend this movie?
Oh no.
We caught this movie.
My wife and I were on vacation
I think last year at some point
or the year before I forget.
And we're in a hotel
and this came on.
and oh cool it's exactly what i want to watch at a bullshit dumb hotel scenario we turned it off
like with commercials dude you don't even want to know how long this thing is like we turned it off
when geoffrey dean morgan showed up like this is not ending and it just uh so this is last night was
the first time i've seen all of this movie and i mean all of it it's just way too long and
their chemistry isn't that bad it's probably a better gerard butler performance i think all
told we talk a lot of s about that dude i think he is he is sort of charming in this movie that
sort of something. But Hillary Swank
is just, I mean, and she's a great actress, you know,
two Oscars under her belt, but like
just does not have whatever this
character needs, and it's, it's a problem.
It was Boys Don't Crying, what's the other one? Is it a million dollar
baby she won? Yes. Oh, cool, cool, cool.
Unless I made that, I'll double check that.
Oh, I don't know. Chris Cabin? Oh, God, no. This was
terrible. This is among the worst
we've done, I think. I really had trouble
with this one. I don't find much of the
cast. Like, I think they were all, I think everybody's trying here, but nobody's really making it, selling it to me.
I don't know if that's a miscasting issue or just that the script is fucking terrible.
I will say, well, it's a Scottish guy playing an Irish guy, so the casting probably is something.
Speaking of that, here's something that hung me up. There's this weird, she drops a line, Hillary Swank towards the end says, I know where I'm going very pointedly.
And I think she's referencing the Powell Pressburger movie. Is that right? I think.
because it is about that, but it's about
a woman going to Scotland.
God damn it.
A stupid, stupid movie.
Insane.
Yeah, never watch it. Don't watch it.
Well, it's a no for me
to, you know, I'd rather have the end of
million-dollar baby happen than watch it again.
So it's a no. It's just a flat-out no. That's all I'm going to say.
Fuck it.
Yeah, no, it's a no. I will say hilariously back when this movie came
out we fucking had Hillary Swank come to the burns
for some like donor thing
or whatever and this was the movie they played
beforehand and it was
like man like it was
like all of these people having to be like
wow this movie
you've done it again
and meanwhile I'm up in the projection booth
I had seen maybe like the first
20ish minutes of this movie
because I remember doing that event
and helping out with the projection and everything
and at that time I just remember being like
Jesus, this is awful.
This is truly awful.
I hope the rest of the movie
is better than the first 20 minutes.
And nope, it sets the tone.
This is trash. Never watch it.
I did have fun talking about it today.
Absolutely.
But that is PSI Love You from the year 2007
directed by Richard LaGravenais.
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Do they shoot her into the sun? Is that how it ends?
No, it's an even bigger disgrace, dude.
It's just the old like, yeah, we're not going to mention you ever again.
Take her put her in the airlock.
Seriously.
So I'm very much looking forward to be ridding ourselves of that character.
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What do we got coming out next Tuesday?
We are doing Mr. Nanny.
and we're actually, we couldn't possibly,
it's not a movie that only four people
can talk about. We're bringing front of the show
Clint Worthington on to talk with us.
That's right. That's going to be a lot of fun.
It's been a long-ass time since I've seen this.
This particular Hulk Hogan vehicle.
I watch this movie a lot.
We're talking like recently?
No, as a kid.
This is like three ninjas, this,
and the Chris Farley movies.
Wow. So you've seen this more than his sex tape, right?
Absolutely, yes, 100%.
That's the one I watched one.
many times. Well, you do love pork.
I love too much.
I like pork in this belly,
and pork is like fucking, right?
Yes. That's exactly right, dude.
So until next week with Hulk Hogan's sex tape,
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek. Eric Siska.
Chris Cabin. Take it easy.
P.S. I love you.
That was a hit gum
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