We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 530 - P.S. I Love You

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

This week on the show, it's a special episode just in time for Valentine's Day as the guys chat about the absolutely abhorrent rom-com, P.S. I Love You! Who in the world would plan this all out and fo...rce it upon their grieving loved one? Why did they think powerhouse dramatic actor Hilary Swank could pull off a goofy romantic comedy? Why not just hire a couple of Irish actors here? And is Harry Connick Jr. playing a serial killer? PLUS: Look out for this Hellraiser-themed urn! P.S. I Love You stars Hilary Swank, Gerard "American Mike" Butler, Harry Connick Jr., Lisa Kudrow, Gina Gershon, James Marsters, Kathy Bates, Nellie McKay, Dean Winters, and Jeffrey Dean Morgan; directed by Richard LaGravenese. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, wow, this one is shocking in its stupidity. It's P.S. I love you. I'm Andrew Jupin. Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Gavin. And we hate movies. Hot Nasty Six. Hello, everyone, welcome to the program known as we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. humdinger, folks. It's P.S. I Love You from Aught 7, directed by Richard LaGravenais. This is the one of two movies he wrote and directed that also starred Hillary Swank in the
Starting point is 00:01:13 year of Our Lord 2007. The other one is Freedom Writers, sort of like a more vanilla, dangerous minds. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my rule holds 2007, best America movies and worst American ladies. This is horrible. This is stunning. I was shocked by this. Hey, PS, my love, there will be blood. Hey, PS, this isn't a country for old men. P.S., Michael Creighton. P.S., the social network kind of works, not really.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Knock, knock, it doesn't work. It didn't. work man i mean so let's get right into it this is based on a book written by an irish woman that is set entirely in ireland and this is gerard butler famed scotsman playing an irish guy good god what's the difference same thing you've got you've got to just either we've talked to this off the air like either get an irish guy which is a better idea yeah or just make him scottish And it's fine. They can go to Loch Nass and shit and meet his mom, the monster. That sounds great.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I really like that one. Early shape of water vibes. And I'm not even saying like, oh, there's no difference between Scottish and Irish. There clearly is that's the problem. But like, you know, they're close enough geographically and like, culturally where you could just be like, just transpose a lot of those things to Scottish and it would be totally fine. But it doesn't even matter. Like, you know, it doesn't even matter that they're like, I guess,
Starting point is 00:02:55 you're making the argument here that they're like close culturally like because they could this this could be anyway it doesn't matter like yes what they what they choose to take from the text uh you know from cecilia a herne's book and put into this movie the irish part doesn't fucking matter aside from the fact that yeah he's doing like an irish wake thing kind of yeah uh at one point but like it doesn't matter like they can be fucking canadian they could be from lithuania it doesn't matter Yeah, people drink when people die. It doesn't fucking, you don't have to be Irish to do it. You know, Andrew, I think Lithuanian-Canadian is the route to go because that's exactly what Bill Shatner is.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Ooh. Is that right? I believe so, yeah. And it would be great to see him in a property like this. It definitely would be, dude. I'm taking a roll away from Kathy Bates. Got you back. I'm your mother.
Starting point is 00:03:52 P.S. I love you. See, yeah, that, like the way Gerard Butler keeps ending the letters in this movie, they do sound like the cadence of William Shetner. This is like producer. The Irish thing is a producer brain thing. Like that wild mountain time, like, there's this thing about like, they're like, it's romantic, inherently romantic to be in Ireland. So Scottish is not though. Yeah. Even though it's like highlights and everything.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Like it would be just as beautiful. But they're like, no, no, no. Everybody loves Ireland. But it's like, and I mean, like it's a New York, they turned into a New York story. and like immediately it's like really it's like sea level friends jokes a lot of this stuff is
Starting point is 00:04:30 oh yeah well I mean you got one right at the start that's like it would have been right at home on an episode of friends where like they're like they're fighting at the beginning of this movie Hillary Swank and Gerard Butler and there's one act play that you have to fucking sit through before the credits seriously and she says something about like
Starting point is 00:04:47 you know oh the only other like guy that I dated I only dated one of the guy before you or something like that. And Butler's like, ah, yeah, Timmy Harrison. Isn't he a woman now? And you're just like, dar-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-n-ha-ha. It's fucking so stupid, man. It's a little late. 2007, a little late for that shit. It's a lot late. It's just, I mean, like, and so much of this, like, the humor is that is like just like this kind of like pseudo-crass New Yorker jaded bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yes, that's exactly right. I think that was a section of Blockbuster back in the I read those movies I mean it's just it's stunning the screenplay like there's a bunch of those clunker jokes like I think I did write a couple of them down but after a while it was just like exhausting trying to keep up with it
Starting point is 00:05:37 guarantee you that like in that last season of friend when like Matt Perry and Courtney Cox are having discussions he definitely is like you're gonna make me sleep in the bathtub again aren't you just like Gerr Bartler does it just beginning thing where they're in a middle of a fight and it's just like
Starting point is 00:05:53 they both look so ugly in the beginning of this movie. I don't like either of these people. Can I go now? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like some fucking like film school graduate who is obsessed with John Cassavetes and was like, what if I did what Cassavetes did,
Starting point is 00:06:08 but it was really shitty? Yeah, with a friend's script. Do a Cassavetti's kind of movie with a friend's script. It's awful. Oh, hey, oh, hold on, hold on. It doesn't count because we were on a break, okay? they're married at 19 is that the idea she was 20 and he was 25 I think is the idea
Starting point is 00:06:32 wow yeah they she met him at 19 though yeah he really he was really like going for it yeah that it doesn't seem uh advisable I want a teenager yeah it's this big like stagey production of their argument about whether or not they want to have kids and like all this you know all she's not ready for kids because guys this apartment they're in is way too small they've got to get a bigger apartment they just find a bigger apartment this is so aggravating and i don't even understand how this fucking happens this is just people in l.A. that have no i have never been to the city of new york or something never not once in their fucking life because this is outrageous you could park a truck
Starting point is 00:07:19 in this fucking apartment and also sleep and live happily I mean, Steve, you mentioned it before we went on the air that she has like three living rooms attached to each other. It really is. I don't understand. Did they buy the neighbor's unit and blow it up and stand it? Probably. That sounds about right. There's like a full ass like West Elm dining room table set in this apartment.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And it's like, if you can fit that in and you're still able to like walk all around it comfortably and not when like Kramer's trying to play pool at the Costanza's house. Like, you're fine. You're totally fine. By the way, if anyone listening is complaining to themselves about us talking about New York's shit, put a bag over your head and throw yourself down a staircase. Also a good idea. Yeah, a little help there. The problem is, like, something like Jerry, like, you can just see, like, Hillary's just like, Jerry, Jerry, I cannot, I cannot bring up a child in a place that doesn't have a fifth office. She even says like, where are we going to change the diapers out the window?
Starting point is 00:08:23 There's nowhere to move in here. And I'm like, your bedroom is bigger than most places I've ever lived, period. Yep. Your bedroom is massive. And like the problem with Hillary Swank, she's a good actress, but she's also like, she's a dramatic actress. Like, let's just call it what it is. She's an intense dramatic actress.
Starting point is 00:08:44 No, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. When she tries to be funny or cute, she just looks confused. Well, there's a part in this movie, I don't remember where, I mean, we'll come to it when we get to it, but there was one, oh, it's like when you get the flashback of how they met in Ireland, and it's supposed to turn her, like, and Chelsea made this comment, I think it's totally right, that they're trying to give her, like, a character that Julia Roberts could nail out of the park. Yes. She would totally hit it out of the park with this character. But, like, when Hillary Swank tries to be, like, funny, romantic comedy, like, in this, like, meeting scene specifically, I was like, why are they just making her so stupid?
Starting point is 00:09:17 all of a sudden. She just becomes a moron. It's terrible. It's like she got kicked in the head before every scene. Yeah, like their apartment's so small, she leaves the bedroom and goes into the barn room to milk the cow and gets kicked in the head by a horse that they have in this giant apartment. You could, they could have a, oh, could we get a dog, no, you could have a cow.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You could literally have an actual cow. Yeah, yeah, easily. put it in the second bathroom come on do it this place I'm sorry I keep saying but it's humongous it's just like there's a foyer there's a huge living room
Starting point is 00:09:57 a dining room a huge bedroom and a bathroom that you could like fucking take three shits in at once hating each other the three people all around to take it a shit
Starting point is 00:10:09 that's amazing I mean yeah you could have like you know like the dorm room bathroom that they had on the hall you know where it's like you got three stalls, three sinks, and like two showers or something. You could totally fit this in here. This apartment isn't as big as what I'm about to reference,
Starting point is 00:10:26 but it definitely reminded me of the totally insane apartment that Courtney, or not Courtney, so Gordney Weaver has in that second Ghostbusters movie. Where there's like fucking, like, there's, looks like an office for a detective agency's door at one point. Inside, she's got like a door with like glass windows all in it and check. like just stunning she looks like she has a macdonald's in there for crying out loud i mean the problem this the problem is also that like what they're talking about is so fucking is like just vague
Starting point is 00:10:56 boilerplate platitude shit yes like just like baby work baby work baby work baby work and that's she's a she's a real estate broker we're told and then like are we told what he does but he's he also just i don't think there's a detail other than he's got a shitty career He has, he owns a car. Yeah, he owns a limo company with James Marister. That's right. Jesus Christ. Try to remember that. I mean, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:11:26 but like, because she's upset that he took out this business loan and blah, blah, blah, blah, got into all this debt to start this new career or whatever. He used to be a limo driver, blah, blah, blah, that's part of this very, very long sequence. And the question becomes later on when she's like fired and stuff, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:42 how is she keeping this apartment? Like, you know mean like like this is two thousand for for more reference points here of how insane this is okay yeah he has a like a floundering limo company and she eventually gets fired in this movie not only is this apartment massive this apartment is massive in the year 2007 on new york's lower east side much de narrow at this point ladies and gentlemen very expensive i'm just going to say drug dealing yeah that makes sense it's the only thing that makes sense Kathy Bates is drug dealing
Starting point is 00:12:17 in giving her money. Or I don't know, man, yeah, your business partners with James Marsters? I don't know, dude, what's in the trunk of those limos? Third question, third possibility, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:28 we know that he dies of an aneurism or whatever or a brain tumor. What if he slipped? Ah, I slipped and fell out of Wendy's. You're going to be okay, love. I died.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You can leave off me Wendy's money. I'm going to take Dave Thomas down from being. of the grave. Every day I'm going to write you a note to tell you what the order at Wendy's. It's going to be free. Never a Frosty. There will never be
Starting point is 00:12:55 a frosty in my house. I slipped on chili at Wendy's. Now I'm dead. Why do you even have it? Who's getting the chili at Wendy's? And she's set for life because this dude died in the Wendy's lobby. P.S.
Starting point is 00:13:15 get me a sack of nugs and put it on me tombstone I need a sack of nugs to pay the both men she goes to put a nudge over each one of me eyes she goes to the burial site starts crying she's like
Starting point is 00:13:32 you can get the spicy chicken nuggets any time now it's not a limited item anymore dude forget the fucking Irish wake dude how about a Wendy's wake everybody bring their own fucking value meal combo to the that is dark disgusting
Starting point is 00:13:50 that room would smell so bad so quickly yeah you need the three shit bathroom for that yeah yeah because first it's going to smell like wendy's and that's going to smell like wendy's shits and it's just going to be bad because then it stinks up the whole place you know you're not thinking about the smell of the rotting corpse on the pool table
Starting point is 00:14:07 but it is burning your lungs I'm imagining then they have they they end this by having funny sex, which I never, like, movies do that we're all, like, cackling and then we have sex to get, like, no, man. No, it's just like pissing your pants,
Starting point is 00:14:24 pissing your pants laughing at these, like, sexy shenanigans. It's like him, he's got like suspenders strapped to his boxers and then like, ah, I got one in me, I he like fucking smacks himself in the face. It's the chuckle fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You're totally right. It's a chuckle fuck. Yes, indeed. Oh, I. got no time for these chuckle fucks dude yeah look it's serious as a heart attack with you guys absolutely man look down to business she warded off his calls for hot nastice sex so now you get chuckle fuck that's the that's the other one you go yeah here's why this i mean for several reasons of course but like one reason why this movie is completely unbelievable is because here's a real panty dropper line i'm not your dad or don't ye know
Starting point is 00:15:13 that yet. Yeah. Good God. That's like a nuclear thing to say. Could you imagine having a fight with your wife and saying that? Like, you are, that's one for the holiday end. That's what that is. It's a one way ticket to the holiday end.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Enjoy it. They've got good stuff there. You know what I mean? Like you could do a little continental breakfast the next day, but you're going to the fucking holiday in friends. Yeah, dude, I was going to say, Ack looks like it's the continental breakfast again for me. And that night when he checks into that holiday end is when he goes,
Starting point is 00:15:43 to Wendy's and the, you know, the reaper finds. That's what the fatal slip happens. Honestly, there's so much chili all over the floor. It would be better than a brain tumor. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Absolutely. Snap your neck at a Wendy's. Yeah, absolutely. And exactly. It'll illustrate how fast you can go. I mean, the brain tumor thing, they just skipped to him being dead,
Starting point is 00:16:06 but he had all this time knowing he had a brain tumor, I guess, and setting up this elaborate, I will live forever scheme. Yes, Jesus Christ. Yeah, and the movie, obviously, very, very pointedly skips, like, the chemo and all the horror of that. And, like, and that's the thing, too, is, like, that's a horrible way to go. And it's a long, drawn-out process, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And when you know what you can't have if that happens? A funny funeral. I've never, I will walk right out of a funny funeral, dude, like, because it's not funny. It's never fun. It's never like, man, you know what I want? I don't want people being sad at my funeral. I want it to be a pretty big party. no one's having a good time of your funeral, nor could they.
Starting point is 00:16:47 No, it's bad enough I get forced to have a good time at regular parties. I mean, come on. When you put me in the ground, what I want you to do is play Dennis Leary's asshole. It'll be hilarious. Come on. As the fucking pine box gets lowered into the ground. It's me Irish heritage. Everyone's crying at Chris's Graveside.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Asshole, yo, yo. He's the only old. one who really got it. I just, I don't, I mean, like, I know people do this and it's, I mean, it's more of a movie thing, but I know it does actually happen, but like, it, it's, it doesn't work. Like, your enemies can have a fun funeral for you, but your friends will be pretty upset. I mean, like, the time for a fun funeral is when it's a really old person. Yes. Right? It's like a life well lived, yada, yada, yada, yada. Sure, you want to fucking yuck it up. Great. But like, there are people at this
Starting point is 00:17:43 funeral, you know, or this, you know, wake, whatever we're doing at the family bar here, where it's like the one-liners are flying like it's fucking cheers. It's bad. And like a big joke is a priest dropping the F-bomb. And that, God damn it. And not just the F-bomb, the, you know, ends with a T. Yeah. Yeah, the homophobic F-bomb. I mean, it's one of these things where, oh, no, fuck is just fuck. That's not an F-bomb. Yeah. The little old grampies at home who are listening this by mistake. All the octogenarians that listen to We Hate
Starting point is 00:18:19 Movies. Yeah, they're out there. It's so frustrating at this part because they're like, all right, everybody, the little memorial we're doing here for Jerry is about to get underway. First, we're going to play his favorite song. And it's of course, because this is all
Starting point is 00:18:35 people know about Irish anything. It's like, well, it has to be fairy tale of New York by the Pogues, right? I'm like, what the fuck? Get this Christmas this song out of this fucking funeral. You couldn't even get a deep cut. Like, get me a weird poke song from like, rum
Starting point is 00:18:51 sodamy in the lash. One of the ones that not everybody knows. It's this. It's this or that fucking going up to Boston. The dropkicks, do you have to be. Yeah. That's the only two Irish-American-esque music. Or into the mystic by Van Morrison. Oh, that would be something.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's too deep, dude. Yeah. And like, it is, it's weird because again, like, that line isn't that song everybody knows it you know what i mean like but to hold on a priest that he's singing it singing it like because he gets to say it it's kind of weird and but and then the joke is like could you believe it the priest is the one that said the slur isn't that funny a priest using a gay slur isn't that fucking hilarious and it's all like a good vibes thing like he's just so happy to be singing this song with all his friends here while this fucking corpse rots next to him or a box of
Starting point is 00:19:42 fucking ashes, I mean. An amp of ashes, Chris. Dude, this thing looks like the Hellraiser puzzle box. This urn, where we're told that she designed this urn, Ah, hey, babe, I'm getting ready for me funny funeral. Could you make me a custom urn? Something that looks like a prop from a horror movie, or maybe a bondage porno.
Starting point is 00:20:05 That's what I, look, if you, like, you know, like, it's a couple years later, you're like hook it up with this Hillary Swang character, and you get to her apartment and you see that box you're like, oh, this lady's nasty. Yep. One of all fucking lube and whips are in that box, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. Toy chest. It looks like a whip box for sure. We should set up a little bit that we're at Kathy Bates's bars. Teddy's one of my favorite bars in New York City, in Brooklyn. It's one of your classic Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:20:36 for New York situations, but it's a great bar. Are we not saying that this is Brooklyn, I'm pretty sure we are. Because we keep saying, like, we talk about Brooklyn, like, it's a far off place. And later when they go for a walk, it's definitely they're just in New York when they walk out of the bar kind of a thing. Which part where they go for a walk? Kathy Bates at the end, when they're walking.
Starting point is 00:20:55 See, I thought that same thing, dude, but that's Prospect Park. It's not Central Park. Yeah. But even that's like, that's a fucking two hour walk. It's nowhere near Teddy's. But I was surprised that it's a, it's a, I rated this movie half a star on letterboxed. And the half star is for using Teddy's in this movie, an old hangout of ours.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The last time I was in Williamsburg, I think it maybe even ate at Teddy's. Yeah. But it's weird that it's allowed to just still be called Teddy's. Yes. So it's like it's not, Kathy's. I mean, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't know. It is kind of cool. But yeah, so we're having this funeral at Teddy's. I do want to quickly remind people, you're hearing us complain about New York geography a little bit. If that bothers you, put the sack over your head,
Starting point is 00:21:36 put yourself down that flight of stairs. Uh-huh. but it's okay but it's okay to like a movie though right yeah of course but this is a good rule with thumb Chris it is we're introduced to my favorite character in the movie the barback he's not even a bartender it's harry conic junior in this chilling chilling performance he's eating faces in this movie dude I don't know how else to break it to you oh this is a fucking cannibalistic serial killer in this so much scarier than what he's doing copycat Just by many measures, but much more frightening.
Starting point is 00:22:09 The writing is on the wall everywhere. Like you said, bar back at like 40 years older. Like this is like he just got out of prison, which is, you know, fine. But like this guy, there's some red flags here. There's a lot exactly. Like I think he like is living above the bar or something, you know, or maybe. I think it's like a, hey, Kathy Bates, you done for the night. I'll lock up.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah, okay. Have a good night. I'll see you tomorrow, Miss Teddy. And then like the door closes. And he's like, all right. time to sleep on the floor the floor squeaks the door creaks
Starting point is 00:22:43 Is he Sweeney Todd now? No, that's Oklahoma That's the The Villain sings that Because he's also a maniac Sleeping in an empty room I mean it's It's either he's eating cheeks
Starting point is 00:23:00 Or he's fucking like a Martha Marcy May Marlene situation here Oh you just got to he escaped a cult Yeah, like he's getting deprogrammed or something because the way he's acting in this is just not acceptable. Well, it's also a weird thing where like, and correct me if I'm wrong here,
Starting point is 00:23:15 but are they not like making some sort of an allusion to him having like Tourette's or something? Or autism. I'm unclear. Some sort of spectrum thing. Yeah. Because like the first thing he says to her, like she's like, oh, how'd your husband die?
Starting point is 00:23:29 And she's like, brain tumor goes, nice. And then he's like, oh, sorry, I don't have a filter. But then later on, it's kind of played off like a joke because he's like yeah just uh but I have this thing but I could take pills for it and I'm like you can't really take pills for I was I was confused what they were going for
Starting point is 00:23:45 because they never name it no and with that whole line of him being like oh yeah I've got a pill that because he really says something like oh I take medicine and makes me not sound like an asshole or something like that and I was like well I can't tell classically written
Starting point is 00:24:02 screenplay if this is like a joke you're making or if this guy has some kind of like condition that I then have to like take seriously or is it like I'm an asshole yeah I got medicine for being an asshole I read New York asshole
Starting point is 00:24:17 I read New York asshole too and I tell we're gonna play it if we're wrong we're wrong you can yell at me on the internet but I think that's what it's gonna be I think it's just a good excuse for bad writing yes just like hey yeah so whatever he says just believe it well it's also just crazy then if Harry Connick Jr., you know he's like all right man I'm playing like a New York
Starting point is 00:24:34 asshole got it I'm a fucking serial killer now. It's so bad. Like his hair is like over his eyes and he's really quiet until he says something creepy. It just like he moves like death itself. It is really creepy. And it's weird too because like I mean, hot damn, try to find a guy with more charming charisma than Harry Connick Jr.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I'm not going to find it. And in this movie it's like there's like an X-Man mutant standing off camera that's like, my power is I can dampen Harry Connick Jr.'s charred. Harry Connich Jr. has a line that's like, I buried my dog in a stereo box. Yes. Nice to meet you. I buried a dog in a stereo box.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You want to see it. It's around the corner. I just, I mean, he is literally more charming in the film copycat. He is. I can't, I can't believe his performance in this movie. And I would say him and Sigordi Weaver have a more healthy. your relationship than him and Hillary Slink in this movie. I'm going to kill you, Doc.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm going to kill you, Hillary Swank. I got my tooth knocked out the movie. Hey, let's go to the Yankee Stadium. I'm going to kill you there or something. I'm going to break into your house and smell your things. Am I joking? Who cares? Find out tonight if I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Say, I'll make jokes like that. Find out tonight if it's a joke. If you don't like that joke, I got a joke. a pill that'll make me better or something. But if you do like it, I'll keep it up. I'm eating all your toilet paper, believe me? We should say
Starting point is 00:26:16 too, we mentioned one. So there is a little circle of friends here. And speaking of friends, the show, we get Lisa Kudrow as one of Hillary Swank's friends. Gina Gershahn as another, and she is married to James Marsters. And that is the
Starting point is 00:26:34 makeup of this hilarious and entertaining circle of familiars that she has here. You're talking about Harry Econic Jr. not playing in this movie. Lisa Kudrow can play in anything and she is doing nothing in this. They really hamper
Starting point is 00:26:50 her with this like horny character her and it just doesn't do like she's horny until she's not and then like the movie doesn't know if she wants how much of a character they want to be. That's why they cut her wedding out of the end of it. Yes, that's true. It's a thing where she like this is this is what you're supposed to know about this character
Starting point is 00:27:08 is she's walking around her friends like wake funeral reception whatever it is doing this thing where like she'll go up to a dude and be like like there's the little checklist and like with each dude she talks to we get more of the progression of the checklist which is ultimately like are you single and if he says yes we continue and it's like okay are you gay if they say no we'll continue further or do you have a job if they say you yes, then it's like she's ready to go and like that's the gag. It's like first guy are you single? No, see you
Starting point is 00:27:40 later. Which is literally a joke you would see in a friends or a Seinfeld. Yeah, again, it's friends because it's like gay, right? What? New York City, can you believe it? I found a gay guy in New York, weird.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Oh man, and all her friends are also a decade older than her, which is something. That's the weirdest. Yes, thank you, Eric, because they are like, Gina Gershahn and Lucy Kudrow aren't like I mean they could be friends with Hillary Swink but you do have to address at one point like yeah we met at work
Starting point is 00:28:11 you know that's like just something like that because it's not like these are not people that grew up together because she's so much younger than them what well it's a weird like I mean I guess maybe because Butler is partners with Marsters it's like Gina Gershan's just in the circle that way and we don't really know what the relationship is
Starting point is 00:28:27 with Lisa Kudra's character I mean also like the relationships it's just there's too much like because you also have nellie mackay as her sister dude what is this character it's really weird i don't know what's going on and this is a this is a this is an actress i think she's also a musician she's a musician uh mostly but yeah she also acts she's but she's english is what's important to point out here because we are trying any which way we can to hold on to some sort of american accent with this lady and i don't get this is cork it's quirk fest man you're saying she is hillary swank sister? Yes. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:29:01 Butler's sister with that accent. See? Yeah. I absolutely did. It's very confusing. She is taking this quirk to a whole new level of this is an alien with a skin suit on. And it's just not for this movie either. Well, she reminds me of the lead in a little
Starting point is 00:29:17 shop of horror is more than anything else. That's where she got her American accent from. Oh my God, dude. That is fucking, that is yes, that's stunningly accurate, Steve. Sorry. But I also like the idea of the alien and the human suit sugar water also I have a fan theory about this character because she's like really heavy up top and totally disappears in the middle of
Starting point is 00:29:42 the movie I think Harry Connick Jr. kills her I think that's what that's absolutely yep do we not have her by the time those end credits blissfully roll she's in a picture at the end oh yeah that's a fucking in-memorium picture she's not in a stereo box out back You want to take a look? Take a peek. Look, there was more room. The dog didn't take up that much room. So I put her in the box as well.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I mean, it's like you have this movie where we're trying to do like a romantic comedy and then it's also like Ha ha, New Yorker comedy. But then also like this other thing, which is this one character, believes that she's in some totally obnoxious adult swim sketch.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Well, I think Harry Carter Jr. is like, hey, Hillary Swank, you want to help me move a couch? She's like, oh, I'm busy being grieving. He goes through his sister. You want to help me move a couch? Yeah, sure. I also love the song American Girl. What's a couch?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Is that what you said, Chris? Alien in the skin suit. I like it. I like you better. You're right. I like you better. On my home planet, we do not have places to sit. Why do you have that thing on your arm?
Starting point is 00:30:51 It's called a cast. That's so funny. You know, an alien makes total sense because they observed Gerard Butler and they observed Hilary Swank and they put the voices together and came up with this. Hello. So, yeah, like, that's kind of
Starting point is 00:31:10 the thing. Kathy Bates is her mom. She runs the thing and, like, you know, that's the funeral. Any other funeral stuff? Because we just get it to her grieving for a very long time. No, and the funny thing is when she gets home from the funeral, she's taken, dude, she is taking this puzzle box around with her in this movie like it's a fucking character.
Starting point is 00:31:26 it's a character in the film she takes it home from Teddy's and dude there is a thing where the box is like set on you know some sort of thing right at the foot of their bed and she's staring at it and they have Hillary Swank I mean it's just like it's supposed to be
Starting point is 00:31:41 it was a long day I am just ready to drop into bed but she's looking at this box and she rips her clothes off so fast that I was like she can fuck that box it's an amp dude she could go full Sibbion on that oh my gosh God, this goes up to 11.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Me fuck, box. I think it's more likely that she attaches it to her stomach and makes it like a quato. Oh, my God. Oh, why do you miss Jerry? He's right here. Say hi, Jerry. Box, box, box. Start the reactor.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Well, there is. So she's like home and like, you know, she's like feeling bad and stuff. And then like, uh, Jerry is just on the couch playing the guitar. I'm like, oh, shit. this is a haunted house man dude yeah i mean i don't know what's going on here because it's like a weird she wakes up uh she forgets he's dead at first
Starting point is 00:32:35 because she's like jerry turn off the light and then it's like no no you're you're alone here she gets up and like she's making coffee did you catch this part where she's making coffee no she's got two cups of coffee oh guys she puts one on the urn oh no she made coffee for the urn i swear to god she's pouring it in there giving him dinner
Starting point is 00:32:57 strapping leftovers of the fucking ashes are covered in trash her family comes over what's that smell it seems to be coming from the box is this is this a raw meat in here? It's literally just a
Starting point is 00:33:10 he's going to eat it later he's going to finish it later it's fine don't worry about it she turns his urn into like literally like a butt stop she's just smoking Jerry would like it that way he always liked it when I ashed in his face it was one of the things we did look look he tried
Starting point is 00:33:25 to, he tried to quit, he tried to put on the patch, and he just couldn't quit before he died. But you're totally right, Steve. At one point, she's like, where's that guitar music coming from? And it's just this ghost playing guitar on the couch. Hey, love, you better stop believing in ghost stories. Whang?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Cause you're in one. Ghosts can play the guitar, but we can't tune them. Would you tune me guitar or lassie? Ach, we can only play shite music. what is this song that he's playing this was a big pop i love you to the it was a big like uh like a m rock radio hit for a while uh but it just like why not put like some like a universal song like something they areitha franklin like sang or something like i think the finger thing means the money probably but like you're just playing the guitar like i don't know if you need rights to like
Starting point is 00:34:18 do a cover of the song because it does sound like he's singing this you know what you could also do is not play the guitar. Also. Also a choice. But he's, remember, he's vaguely a musician, which will come into play later. But maybe, yeah, I guess. This movie's just, it's longer than Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I want to mention that. It is longer than Star Wars. We don't need every stupid scene like this. You're totally right. So after a while of like, you know, trying to just mourn in her own way, Kathy Bates and her circle of friends here, they've had enough
Starting point is 00:34:50 and they're going to just invade this woman's apartment and it couldn't come at a worse time because she's like going through her shit trying to deal with this however she's dealing with it or not dealing with it whatever it's her business you see what she's wearing no what's that Jerry's clothes
Starting point is 00:35:08 I know it's grief I'm not trying to make too much fun of it but I am because it's like I am Jerry now I'm watching Jerry's favorite movie A Star is Born with Judy Garland apparently. And like Fight Club where she was Jerry the entire time. Oh, that'd be red because this means this
Starting point is 00:35:26 horrible character would shoot herself on the head too. Yeah, maybe take out a credit card company with it. But yeah, they barge in while she's singing and it's like total douche chill and then they're like, oh, you poor thing. And they start like cleaning her apartment for her.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I mean, listen, I'm not doing that for any of you guys. It is really bizarre And by the way We have like transitions Of like time passing And all the font That is down below
Starting point is 00:35:57 That says like winter It's now winter or whatever Yeah It's like a Disney font Yeah Yeah it's way too happy And I think it's the same font They used on the poster too
Starting point is 00:36:06 Way too peppy for this like weird grief It's supposed to look like Handwriting but it looks It doesn't It's very cute And I mean the movie The movie opens with the camera obscura hey Lloyd I'm ready to be heartbroken
Starting point is 00:36:20 which is like a big peppy song like the lyrics are like heartbreaking but like it's a peppy song and I'm like this is just a two hour death march also good call pointing out the use of camera obscura here dude because I was like oh I know this movie to be shit
Starting point is 00:36:36 but maybe some points if there's a good soundtrack but that's kind of like the only good song that's it's it everything else is garbage it's kind of weird I mean also like that's what the movie's trying to do It's trying to, like, have it, not have it both ways, but like, ah, grief can be kind of fun sometimes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Can it's like, not really? No, no, no, no. We're trying to be uplifting and cute and stuff, and it just, it just comes off as tone deaf. Well, you know how grief can be fun is if there's a crazy plan orchestrated for you to literally never get over your dead husband. Yeah, that does sound like, that's where we are right here. It ends up being, it's Kathy Bates that was helpful.
Starting point is 00:37:17 helping Jerry do this. Yes, that's what we find out of the end of the movie. And she acts like it's bad at first to take the heat off of her and says like this is a little much or whatever. It's weird. It's a thing where I think like she was against it, but it's like she's not going to turn down like a dying man's wish for assistance. You know what I would do in that scenario is if he gives me all these letters. Oh, yeah, of course, Jerry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Of course. Right when he dies, we're like, we're going down to Teddy's fucking furnace. yeah dude's totally well all right you're you're fucking burned up in that box now huh won't be needing these letters anymore exactly because she's not gonna get over it with this fucking scheme he's got going i kind of always wanted to burn someone's letters i always get jealous at the end of the dark night i'm like oh man no one's gonna read that letter but michael cane yeah oh man just like knowing that you have not like knowledge that no one else will ever possess because the only one who possessed it is dead.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Exactly, dude. Burn those letters. I'd be Michael Cain times 12 with these P.S. I love you letters. Oh, man. Kathy Bates just says, I failed you. I failed you.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And then what's that? Is that Gerard Butler at a restaurant? I don't be. I always imagined I'd see you in Italy with a nice man. And then I wouldn't say anything. Nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But yeah, while they're cleaning up her apartment, ding-dong, there's a cake delivery. Ew. And it's like, ah, happy birthday from Jerry. Oh, douche chill. Aren't you fucking creeped out? I hope you're hungry. I ordered a hundred in pizzas.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah, you're called 1-800 death cakes. You're talking to Gibson. How can I help you today? Okay, you want to send, you're going to die soon and you're going to send something to your mother. That's very nice. That's very nice. You want cupcakes, you said. Okay, okay. Cupcakes that say, yes, I'm dead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And again, this is probably more of Kathy Bates. She's, she is the real problem here. Yes. Well, she's like the Shawnee Smith to his jigsaw is what's going on. Yes, that's exactly right, dude, because this is a romantic comedy set inside the Saw Cinematic Universe. Absolutely. This dude, this dude, Jerry is a, he's a fake Irish jigsaw right here. because yeah it's a cake that just says happy birthday from Jerry on the cake
Starting point is 00:39:43 and like Hillary's like immediately like um what the fuck is this who's playing a joke on me right now what this is disgusting and it's like dude I would be so pissed off right here if I was James Marsters
Starting point is 00:39:54 because like here is this horrible thing that happens everybody is so uncomfortable and immediately of course the first thought is like is this a joke and then everyone immediately turns turns to Marsters
Starting point is 00:40:05 and is like did you fucking do this dude Absolutely not. Why am I the death prank guy? Oh, there's a note here. It says, remember death till I be part. Not my death, yours. The games are afoot. The games are afoot. Try to survive the next 48 hours, babe. Or else I'll be seeing you real soon.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Oh, there's a key inside this cake. Oh, did I say inside the cake? I meant inside James Masters. You've got to cut him open and get the key. Bates is like knocking him out one night and doing bad surgery on him. There's a little sawdall with the kilt on it. There are cameras all over
Starting point is 00:40:48 amazing, a huge apartment. I'm watching them in hell. Oh man. And he ends like, so he's like, you know, some more information's going to be coming your way soon, love. And remember, you must do what I say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He's saying into this tape record. to get the fuck out of your dead guy it's creepy dude like if you want to give her one big letter for after like she you know like hey look these are the things i always wanted to say to you but i never could i want you to get over this i want you to marry again i want you to fuck again i want you have a great time one letter is totally fine no after a year of cotton mouse no i like your idea steve it's much more like a much more uplifting movie love lisa both movies made me want to sniff gas seriously though dude
Starting point is 00:41:42 give me a fucking depressing ass Philip Seymour Hoffman indie dromedy over the shit any day of the week and just one letter that's all it took for him to start huffing gas like a maniac so his instructions in this first one are like yeah it's ye birthday
Starting point is 00:42:00 so it's like she's got to go out with all of her friends have a good time go out with your girlies and have a good time that's that's the line better not go finding any dudes out there also stay away from harry corick junior he actually killed me he ate my fucking face he showed me his collection of dead cats oh man it would be so funny if all of his notes were like you're going to solve me mad uh you're getting close Oh, you're getting so close to how he died. Remember, no police.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I would love if that was it, but like he actually just did die of cancer. He just won't believe. He's like, no, somebody did it to me. Someone gave it to me. Harry Connick Jr. slipped me to cancer. Harry Connick Jr. pushed me at Wendy's. He made me slip in Chile. We were drunk, and he's like, hey, let's go get Wendy's.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm like, hey, great idea. Then we get in there, there's chili all over the floor, and he pushed me. I also think, and I can he prove it, but I think he spilled the chili, too. He spilled it before we got there. And over my dead body, he ate my baconator. You ever watch another man eat your sandwich while you die? He just takes it right out of his hand and laying on the floor. That's my
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's my baconator That's my Blood's falling out Of the back of his head You won't need a baconator Where you're going Inside a stereo box Gonna need a new stereo
Starting point is 00:43:49 I guess The stereo killer I like this man Every three months This guy gets a new stereo I don't know what's up with him The stereo like it could be a really great
Starting point is 00:44:04 like gritty New York City horror movie directed by some Italian guy. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I'm going to need another stereo. What do you got there? It's about a six foot two and three hundred pounds. I need a stereo box and I could fit a dead Irishman in. Human-sized stereo systems.
Starting point is 00:44:23 It would have to be New York in the 80s when we're setting this movie. Yes, that's actually true. A great wall of sound. They go out and this is again, and I mean like, the gay stuff in this movie like what the who is this for because they go to a gay club and like there's a whole bunch of stuff
Starting point is 00:44:39 about like oh I want to my colorist is gay he got us on the list and like it's just it's raining men inside here man and I'm like what are we talking about and there's a bad joke in here too where the guy at the door is like oh a gay colorist in New York you don't say
Starting point is 00:44:55 or something like yeah dude absolutely with these jokes I guess they're trying to be like we're going to go out and have fun but not be hit on so we're going to go to the gay club which people do just totally fine but like the way the way it's presented is a bit rich it's also just an annoying fucking sex in the city-esque situation every time jokes like that like go down and like even like in a very serious movie they should just play the home improvement song like the little flute
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like, Yeah, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah. And it's also this weird, the weirdest part of this movie is her sitting down with all these older gay guys, and they're talking about how they lost all their friends, I assume, to AIDS. And it's like, what is this doing in this movie? It, dude, I was quite stunned. by this because I don't think there's any
Starting point is 00:45:57 other way to read that. No, there's not. She's sitting around and it's also very specifically like a bunch of older dudes. Yes. Right? And they're like, we lost so many of our friends too. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. No, no. We are not
Starting point is 00:46:11 bringing up the fucking AIDS plague while this movie is about a ghost sending this girl on a treasure hunt. Well, maybe all these men just went to Wendy's as well. Oh, we've had so many friends slip on chili at Wendy's too. Again, yeah, these are night owls, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:28 You get drunk, you got your friends that they keep, they got, they, the 59th street Wendy's needs to mop their floor and put down a goddamn sign. I know what you've been through. My partner slipped on some broccoli and cheese, uh, topping for his potato. Man, the baked potato bars killing people too. She gets hammered. She ends up going back to her mom's bar and this is where she's in like a storeroom with Harry Connick Jr.
Starting point is 00:46:54 where he starts to unravel all of his creepiness here. This is insane. It's also the closet where they keep all of the Kampari. Yeah, I noticed that. By the way, Teddy's in real life, I don't think you could find
Starting point is 00:47:06 a single bar of Kampari in that bar. Single bottle, no way. This is where he says he had a hooker phase at one point, right? Yes. Oh. Well, get the friend's theme ready
Starting point is 00:47:17 because his fiancee left him for another woman. And the woman was his other X. It's just so dumb. And the idea like that would be so heart-crushingly worse or something. Oh, and then also they were business partners. Dairn-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha. Fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And these little premises, these little fucking sitcom bullshit. And he, yeah, he does say like, yeah, and it messed me up for a whole year. And she's like, wow, how did you get over? He's like, well, I had a hooker phase until I ran out of money. and I couldn't get any more hookers. Then I had to just start killing him. Well, you know, there's just a detective up my asses figure and putting two and two together.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I had to put that to stop to that. Now I'm here. What you do when you get the hooker and then you kill her, you get the money back. And then you put her in a stereo box. And look, you have to buy a lot of expensive stereo equipment. It doesn't really work out at the end of the day. I'm deeply in debt now.
Starting point is 00:48:23 But, hey, let me tell you how much I love the music of Huey Lewis in the news, and again, like, you know, seeing sex workers is fine and maybe he even had a thing about it, but the way it's presented is this weird thing of like, what was he working out with these ladies? Like, you know what I mean? Also, I mean, it's positioned as a negative, right? It's like, how did you get over this? Well, actually added an addiction to hookers. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like, if that's what you had to do, dude, fine. Also, what kind of money are you making that you could do that? Yeah, deeply in debt. I imagine he's like six digits in the hole. And the fucking like button on this hilarious scene is she just vomits in this closet. Which big mistake because you're not getting that smell out. You see how small this closet is? No way. No.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Unreal. Well, she's hung over the next morning and this is where it's the only time we see her like doing her job at all. Because I think she's like while Masters and Butler were business partners, she's also kind of I don't know about partners but like she works for the same realty firm as Gina Gershon because they're showing this place together yes and she's like super hungover and shit and like yeah the the guy doesn't want to buy the place and the wife is like forcing him to do it and Hillary Swank is just like stand up for yourself Martin stand up for yourself but it's like what's happening it it's a thing that
Starting point is 00:49:44 like maybe if this movie was about something completely different you could have this character do that at the end of this movie? But like, I don't know what like, you know, we're supposed to glean for the she's like finding what in herself here. I don't understand I think the idea is like she doesn't like she later on when we find out
Starting point is 00:50:03 what her real quote unquote calling is it's like this is letting you know that this is not her calling, I suppose. I guess if she's like willing to throw it all away in this moment, but how do you afford this lower east side mansion you have? But also they don't know what real love is. Like she's lost real love.
Starting point is 00:50:19 She knows for real. These two don't have it because, you know, the wife is bullying the man. That's true. Also, I was getting pretty excited here. This apartment looked exactly like this Soho Loft and Ghost. Oh, nice. But yeah, I mean, and that's the other thing too, right? She is showing this massive Soho Loft, her and Gina Gershan.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So even if you're splitting that commission down the middle, like, that's a fucking take, man. And because they reveal the price or something. It's like $3 million or something. And this dude's like, oh, that's way outside of where we said we could go. Also, I start getting the I'm tangentially watching house hunters shakes because it's a couple looking at a place that they're going to buy and they're fighting over it. And I just started having flashbacks. Well, yeah, you're like, oh, they're going to get divorced.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You're like, oh, I'm watching house hunters again. Yeah, that's exactly right. Oh, so you're going to argue about this house and then go straight to the divorce attorney after this episode is filmed. Yeah, I mean, like Hillary Stoick has. has the Wendy's money, but Gina Gershahn is struggling. Like, you gotta help her out. Like, she needs this fucking commission.
Starting point is 00:51:24 The best house hunters thing I've ever seen is one woman wouldn't, there's like absolutely, she's like, I will not have a basement in my house. And like, what a weird thing. It was just like, I will not. And they actually, the guy, of course, because of the TV,
Starting point is 00:51:39 they showed her a place in the basement. She's like, I'm not, you have to look at it. I'm not looking at that basement. I'm like, what psychological I got to say, if you don't have a basement, you know what's creepier? That's what you have is a crawl space. Yes. Listen, people weren't supposed to be underground.
Starting point is 00:51:59 That's like being dead. If you have a basement, you're dead. That's what happens. That's what the bye-bye man said he was going to kill me in the basement. That's what it does. Yeah, I feel like, you know, that person may have lived through like a Blair Witch Project experience. that are they're just like one of these west coast loonies right because
Starting point is 00:52:20 they don't have basements out there or at least not as popular as on the east coasts. Yeah, not as not as prevalent as we have them here. Well yeah, because all their cousins are in the corner just staring into the corner. Yeah, exactly. So she gets fired immediately. After this face off, you know, it just cuts to her
Starting point is 00:52:36 like she packed up her shit and is going back to this apartment, you know, with all her office supplies together. And then, you know, to get the passing of time here, calendar-wise, ding-dong, here is a, like, St. Patrick's Day Leprecon balloon delivery thing. And this is that dude, he's been in a bunch of stuff,
Starting point is 00:52:56 but he was on SVU for a while as a medical technician, and they were like, oh, you know what would be a good idea? We're going to take this character who has, like, a scene, maybe every other episode, and we're going to make him, like, decide that he's going to be a serial killer. Oh, God, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah, because they really gave it to that dude. Yes. Like, all of us, like, he, became like more and more prominent on the show and then it was like oh this guy's like a mass murderer secretly was he in christopher maloney's last episode is that how that works or something like that maybe oh it could have been i thought he maybe lasted post maloney oh okay possibly um but yeah so he's doing like some singing telegram thing and we've got this
Starting point is 00:53:35 joke here of like if i sign for this are you going to sing to me and he's like yes and i have to otherwise my boss i'm going to get a bad review or whatever all all of this non-comedy is supposed to be i don't get it i i don't understand why something like this is here like i i really did just was like what what yeah no it's totally confusing because it's well because you know why dude it's because this movie is not the movie that it thinks it is so it's doing all of these things in the vein of the movie that it thinks it is and it just is really awkward because it's so far from that kind of a move you know when paul mazerski like diverts from the main plot line it usually underline
Starting point is 00:54:15 the thematic material. This is just like, yeah, this is funny stupid bullshit. Here you go. Well, you know, he's an Irish ghost, right? Write in these letters and why Irish people love leprechauns and stereotypical song and dances.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Absolutely, dude. And what this does here is this letter that she has from him sort of triggers this first flashback and it's him, like they're at a karaoke bar and he's really like commanding
Starting point is 00:54:47 the room here and she's like not having it of course they're all out together the whole crew's here for this flashback but it's it's funny because it's not really karaoke because I don't see the fucking TV anywhere like you know what I mean like it's not I hate when movies and TV do this dude
Starting point is 00:55:03 you totally right like I am forever staring at the karaoke screen when I'm doing it like when you have monitor free karaoke and pop culture I'm like absolutely not this is the masters of karaoke You have to remember the whole song and you have to remember it all by beat and you have to like get ready to do it. And it's amazing because like he, he's doing the thing like he does this great song or whatever and everyone's like going nuts over it.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And then, like, he drop and dude with his performance. And like Marshall's like, get Holly up there. Get Holly up there. And I'm somebody in there's like, I put my name in the book an hour ago. I put my fucking. They've been up there all night. You're not getting off. You're so right to point this out, Steve.
Starting point is 00:55:45 because he finishes his song and he's like, all right, now who's next? Let's see. And I'm like, no, no, no. Someone has their name on a fucking list and they're like, get off the stage, weird sounding Irish guy. Now it's my turn.
Starting point is 00:56:00 But he's like the MC. Like, you're not responsible for picking the next person that goes, asshole. Come on, buddy. My best friend here was going to do ever long. Get off the stage. I got the tumor. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Gina Gershahn went up there fucking twice. It's my birthday. This sucks. And they're all terrible. Except for that one weird-sounding Irish guy. He was okay. Oh, she's going to do total clips of the heart. My song, great.
Starting point is 00:56:28 That's good. So, yeah, he's like, ah, look, there's my wife. She's a real coward. She'd never get up here and sing. Hey, baby. And not in the loving way. I mean, you're a literal baby
Starting point is 00:56:44 if I'm not coming up here. And then she like gets pissed off enough to the point where like she comes up there. What is she singing here? A prince song? It's the first song. Sex thing or something. I forget which one.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I don't remember which one. But like and all of a sudden it's it's get off. Get off. Get off. She's singing. All of a sudden it's like she's doing this like strip tease out of nowhere. And I'm like, what are you doing? Well, like just let her be mad and not do this. Clearly you've never watched the Masters of Karaoke.
Starting point is 00:57:13 There's no rule. It's just like you're stripping on stage As long as you remember the lyrics That's all that matters She's trying to do the sex thing In order to get the gold jacket at the Masters We're back here for our programming The karaoke masters
Starting point is 00:57:27 It's like dude It's a gold jacket But it permanently smells like rum and coke Oh oh oh it looks like she's gonna do The Joni Mitchell song Oh oh no it's court and spark It's court and spark They've never done this before
Starting point is 00:57:40 They've never done this at a master's Let's sit and watch Tom is going to do the night they drove old Dixie down and he nails it excellent oh look at that we thought it would be too long of a song for him to do for karaoke but there it is that was perfect I would hate to be Dixie tonight because it got drove down that was wonderful oh and Gregory totally blows it on Corns follow the leader and Paul has been disqualified for doing Paradise by the Dashboard Light that's nine minutes long Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Michael is scratched this afternoon. We have a scratch. Turns out he came into the karaoke club. Yep, those were lyrics written on his hand. Oh, Outcast B-O-B. This is just one of the toughest out there. Toughest out there. You just got to watch.
Starting point is 00:58:34 This is a 14-year-old master ready to go. It's a sad day for sports today. Not everyone quite. nailed that and the miss scatting and that follow the leader said it's very disappointing that cost him par five clearly he has not watched you know David Samlett's unbelievable
Starting point is 00:58:53 performance of Got the Life last year just goes to show that you have to be really prepared to play on this course I would watch that on ESPN Plus absolutely and I guess the other thing too is they're really amping up the sexiness of her singing here, just so
Starting point is 00:59:15 that when she falls off the stage, it's all the more funny. I guess. And also, she breaks her nose. We cut to her in the emergency room or whatever. Dude, her whole face is destroyed. This is, speaking of saw, dude.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Destroyed. Also, quick detail, no reason to go back to it, but just to keep score. The guests that were attending that karaoke night, it's oh well she has to well I'm getting ahead of myself
Starting point is 00:59:46 the two things kind of merged together the two scenes happen at the same time yes but you're right this I mean her face is totally destroyed it looks like jigsaw put a fucking bear trap on it like and he's trying to like make with the yucks here like it's the golden girls
Starting point is 01:00:02 and I'm like dude she like this is divorceable oh yeah this has to be divorces on the table because the thing is she didn't want to go out that night she was really like blah blah blah like she's like you know she had a long day at work and it's like come on you baby and then she like destroys her face forever it seems uh but yes so she keeps being married to him somehow and we get to like the present day now she's back on the treasure hunt everybody is back we got marsters gershan and yep the fucking black cube is there she brings the urn to the karaoke bar come on got to see it you know he's got to be there to see it she opens a little window on it it's this is a pile of ash with two eyeballs on it oh jesus dude that's a prop from peewee's playhouse
Starting point is 01:00:52 halloween edition god does anybody smell vomit garbage and raw meat oh it's coming from the earth oh my god oh what's in here oh god oh yeah it's some uh chili fries for the box please put it it just slip no you can slip it right in the top yeah i'm kind of with eric though you put googly's googly eyes on this thing it's a few Cute little prop. Exactly, yeah. Ah, my husband's dead. I'm completely untethered from reality.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Untethered was indeed the secret word. So she's singing the song. She's singing the song that he plays on the guitar, right? Yes. I love you to the end. Oh, man. This song sucks. Like, you can't anchor a movie to this song.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's just bland shit. it fucking sucks dude and like we get this weird thing where the bar clears out and she I guess is really only singing for the box but the box turns into Gerard Butler who's just like crying
Starting point is 01:01:55 at this table in this fantasy sequence and I'm like is the ghost crying what is happening here dude and again like you're just like oh my god this is my it's my birthday and now this dead woman is she's starting the night by singing to her dead husband how am I going to
Starting point is 01:02:11 How am I going to follow this up? How, what am I supposed to do after this? You're like the unpaid dude who's like just volunteering to host the karaoke night. It's like, wait, they started with what? Oh, well, the whole night is sunk now. Are you kidding? You gotta do like 20 minutes of just jutebox after that. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:02:30 You have to reset. It's like, you know, dude, put the house music on. I can't. You know, everyone's in tears right now. So for the next 35 minutes, it's nothing but Weird Al Yankovic songs. We'll get back to karaoke when everybody's ready to laugh again. Oh, we're also introduced to Dean Winters here really quickly. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Always love a good Dean Winters sighting. He like hits it off with Lisa Kudrow. That's, but does he show up again until the end though? No, he's kind of gone. It's so weird to like make her like romance with him a real thing and just have these two scenes. Because, I mean, the movie is too long anyway. So obviously I'm glad there's not like subplots, but they just don't have subplots. You cut them both out.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Lisa Kudrow doesn't need to be in this movie. At least Chena Krashan is like tied to her office. Yeah, exactly. Like everything should be focused on Hillary Swank here and let's get out of here. Kind of a thing. Like I don't need this six-minute scene that does nothing to any plot. And Marstores is married to Gershan, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yes. Okay. So that, yeah, that, but get rid of Lisa Kut. I love her, but get rid of her in this movie completely. I mean, she's too good for this fucking drek anyway. So we do have these helpful little playful fonts that keep coming up to let us no time is passing. We get to summer. And this is the arc.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I arranged a trip to Ireland for you and two of your closest friends. Wait, is that why all the money was missing from the savings account? No, that Dave Thomas has deep pockets. We're all going to Ireland. I just, yeah, I mean, like the money to fucking just send three people to Ireland. It's crazy, man. Hillary Swick has, like, a shirt with the Wendy's logo on it. She got all free merch from them, too.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Oh, shit. Well, it's a t-shirt with a redhead on. But, yeah, so they go to Ireland and great, great bit of helpful text here. We spend, like, 10 minutes on, like, Ock. I paid. to go to Ireland. I paid for you to go to Ireland with your friends. There's another quick scene where Kathy Bates is like, I don't think you should
Starting point is 01:04:44 go to Ireland with your friends. This all seems very unhealthy and I'm the only correct person in this movie, but I'm also in on it so I'm definitely not. She's the one like buying, she must be the one like going through the tickets and shit. Yeah, all of that. The cake delivery, making sure that all of them were
Starting point is 01:04:59 at the apartment, that fateful day? Renamed this movie, P.S. My mom's a fucking psycho. That'd look great on the bog. No shit, man. Totally. Fucking A, dude. Two for PS, my mom's a fucking psycho. I can go to see that in the theaters, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:18 For Valentine's Day for sure. You've got to go to another country for your ghost husband, and then I'm going to act like I'm not, I'm against it. God damn, she's infuriating the character. And the winner is, Kathy Bates for PS, my mom's fucking psychopath. But the crazy thing is so, like, just,
Starting point is 01:05:38 We do all of this. We know the destination is Ireland, right? The film cuts to, like, sprawling green countryside, and it just goes, Ireland. And it's like, no fucking shit, dude. You are making this movie for the lowest common denominator right now. God damn it. And he's also written, it's kind of great. The best part of the movie is he's written letters for Hillary Swain.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Obviously, Hillary Swain, but no, for Lisa Kudrow and Jim. or Sean. And they're like reading them all together. Like Lisa Kudrow, it's amazing. She's a great actress. She's reading and she's just like, and blah, blah, blah. That's so ha ha ha. He always remember that joke. And she puts the letter down. I don't know how you do this. And I'm like, yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Somebody. Absolutely right, dude. Like, I don't know how you are dealing with this creepy-ass ghost shit. I got one ghost letter and it's more than enough. If you don't do what me say, you will pay. And then like Hillary Swank's all bumming at that point because they're at some like little Airbnb or B&B because it's
Starting point is 01:06:42 2007 air hadn't found its way in yet but like she's like oh geez you guys got letters from my ghost but I didn't get one. They're like shut the fuck up and she winds up going to an Irish club we get a flashback no you gotta go to me favorite because the other thing is they're in his hometown that's right so it's like now we're doing the Gerard Butler highlights to her where He's like, you gotta go to me hometown. You gotta go to me favorite fucking pub. And meanwhile, like, Gina Gershaw's like, I kind of want to see where Ulysses was read, written.
Starting point is 01:07:17 No, you're going to me favorite pub. You got to see the parking lot I smoked cigarettes in. Classic hometown tour, dude. The first bedroom I ever came in. Here's the second. I know it's a little trite, but I'd like to see the Blarney's done. No, you fucking won't. you're going to go to where we band played their first show
Starting point is 01:07:41 a fucking wreck center it is so stupid but yes and they're intercutting this bar scene with when Hillary Swank saw him play at this club and I will give this to Jared Butler he's singing in this movie he's pretty good you know it's totally fine yeah he's got a totally fine singing voice maybe not for some
Starting point is 01:08:07 thing is on the scale of like Phantom of the opera but that was Schumacher's decision man not mine rock singery guy yeah poke's material it's about right and then meanwhile in the current timeline we see Jeffrey Dean Morgan
Starting point is 01:08:23 playing Seattle's own I mean I cannot he's playing an Irish guy he's terrible in this and I'm always fine with a little Jeffrey Dean Morgan but holy mackerel is he bad in this movie the look is right at least like he's a hot guy in this sure he looks good but like it's just the the voice and the what he's saying is a problem again there was no
Starting point is 01:08:49 irish people available at the time of film just get fosbender man it's 2007 he was around yeah he wasn't big yet yeah but like he was a hunk he's an irish hunk he's probably a little too imposing for this movie sure well you could you could put in this role we're because we were trying to do the same casting thing while we were watching this, right? We're sitting there like, all right, Irish guys. And like, honestly, for what the Jeffrey Dean Morgan character is, he was still doing an IT crowd
Starting point is 01:09:16 at the time, but like a Chris O'Dowd? Sure. Yeah. I was just like, oh, I'm just kind of like a nice Irish guy, hometown guy. Colin Farrell? Yes. Colin Farrell could have done the Gerard Butler. He came up as well in our conversation. I got Stephen Ray. Oh, my God. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:09:32 So instead, Stephen Wright. That's how we're going to go. Okay. top of the morning to you k billy super sounds of the irish emerald eyes excuse me i have to sing this song it's just for you oh i mean uh faith and begora to you and such i love you till the end
Starting point is 01:09:54 uh so she sees geoffrey dean they're like hitting on him and he's like you know oh uh would you uh you know i have to go play one more song and then maybe you know we can hang out afterwards we can split some of my lucky charms I have with this accent. It's so fucking bad and what's
Starting point is 01:10:15 also amazing and also why you should be cast he sits down and it's just somebody else singing. It's absolutely not him at all. I check the credits too. It's totally not him. Is it also Gerard Butler? It might as well be. So he starts playing
Starting point is 01:10:30 he's also playing this Love You Till the end song. Oh right? Oh right. Oh, yeah, the Steve Earl, Galloway Girl song, the Galway Girl, yeah. And she freaks the fuck out and runs out of the club. Because that was the, it's the same song, that's right. The flashback is him. Gerard Butler doing a lot of crowd work in that flashback. He comes off the stage with the guitar.
Starting point is 01:10:52 He's walking around the pub. Not too shabby. Maybe the best part of the movie. I don't know. Yeah, it's fun. Again, like, yeah. They don't have great chemistry, but he's doing his best in this movie. Well, because this was right.
Starting point is 01:11:04 It was the, it's before Hollywood was like, you know what? Yes. Just do your American Mike type movies and that ilk. This was like, well, the 300 guy also is like pretty charming and, you know, got a good personality. Maybe we can dump them in these romantic comedies. Because wasn't the ugly truth around this time, too? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 No, you're right. 2010 was the bounty hunter. There's so many of these like rom-coms he was in. Oh, right. Yeah, the bounty hunter, speaking of friends. 2009 was the ugly truth. Oh, yeah, so two years after this. But also, speaking of Irish singing, what came out this year, 2007 also, once.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yep, yep, you're totally right. A slightly better movie. Slightly better movie. That's one of those movies that it's good and no one's ever going to think about it again for the rest of time. Which is fine. Well, it's off Broadway now. Broadway's off Broadway. Oh, that's been gone for a while, too.
Starting point is 01:12:00 the musical that happened. So, yeah, she freaks out, she runs away. The next day, this is, I don't know what this scene is. The three of them out on the fishing boat. Well, the movie literally stalls out here. Like, they realize that, like, oh, like, we're going to go out on the lake or whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And they're like, oh, shit, we just drop the oars into the water. Whoops. This is the dumbest shit. You can see those oars floating. Get your ass out the boat and get them. They're right there. two inches away, like, you can even like probably lean out and get at least
Starting point is 01:12:33 one or. It's like, get out into the water and try standing. Or you know what? If you can't get those, use your hands. There's three of you. Just start paddling. I promise you. It's a tiny ass little wooden rowboat. I promise you you could get back to land without the help of Jeffrey Dean Morgan who comes to their rescue. But this shit is like a bad three stooges. No, they're allergic to water. You don't know this.
Starting point is 01:12:59 but they are. They're allergic to water. They're damsels and they need some hunks to show up, right? This fucking shit, though, dude. It's so stupid. It's like sweeps shit. Like, everybody's bored with this movie. It's a downtime. And they're like, uh, I'm getting married.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I'm pregnant. Yes. Dude, they are rubbing it. They are rubbing it in this widow's face right here. On her fucking, on her dead husband's death tour, they're sitting in this boat. And it's like, Gina Gershan, like, oh yeah you're a widow well how about this i'm pregnant and then lisa kudrow's like yeah widow and
Starting point is 01:13:34 how about this i'm getting married so we can't die on this lake together you're on this grief vacation and you're fucking you just talk about this shit you haven't like talked with each other been like look maybe we shouldn't bring this up right now absolutely seriously they say it like i think um jina koshan says it's sort of by accident but it's not by exit she's like ha if we stay on this lake for nine more months there's got to be another person here oops did i say i was pregnant That's exactly right, dude. That is not an accident. That's a calculated remark.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I'm glad to hear that they were completely silent on the airplane. She was up all night with that line. She was like trying to figure out something for like this. She's like, there's got to be a way for me to get this information in there somehow. Hello, a person to personal call to Bruce Valanche. Hello? Well, I want to ruin. I'm on a, Bruce, you're the best.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I'm on a grief tour with my best friend. And I want to stick it in her face that I'm pregnant, but also make it seem like an accident. I've been there before. Coming right up. That'll be $9. Hillary swanks back at the boat. She's like, that sounds like a fucking Bruce Valanche line you just gave me. You gave me B material for Lanch.
Starting point is 01:14:49 She knew it. She knew it was you right off the bat. It's so stupid, man. and then like so they're just freaking out and then Jeffrey Dean Morgan and his dad who are like the keepers of the lake here and they're like just I guess they just
Starting point is 01:15:08 ride around in this boat looking for people that need help I love that Kathy Bates takes a shine to this father I'm talking about the last seat now for some reason but like it's gonna turn into like an all out family orgy oh yes yep oh just wait dude just wait till open house man everybody's fucking everybody Because, like, when Kathy Bates looks at Jeffrey Dean Morgan's father, you can just tell the floodgates are going on.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah. Well, it's this weird thing where, like, they do that in movies sometimes like, oh, it's cute. You can date the son and I can date the dad. Like, no, it's not. It's not cute at all. It's super weird. You're going to be part of a documentary. Oh, dude, the BBC's right next door.
Starting point is 01:15:49 They're going to find you, dude. This weird fucking sex all skate that this movie ends on, man. Whatever. Welcome to all. in the family on the BBC network. They're shagging each other. The mom is shagging the whatever. You get it. You know.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I was going to do it, but I'm not going to do it. You know, my son, you know, my son, he says, he says, you know, this lady, she gives me a boner. She gives me a boner. And her mother might give you a boner. Eddie's who's, uh, yeah, they say. Sometimes, by the way, boners skip a generation. So you have to, you know, very, lucky if you get if it works twice anyway uh they wind up um they wind up back at the house and like
Starting point is 01:16:34 they feed jeffre dean morgan and everything he's so sexy so like it's kind of it's it's even worse than the boat because hillary swank and lisa kudrow go upstairs and start cackling to each other about their amazing new lives and like hillary swank's like i guess i'll get drunk and fuck geoffrey dean morgan well they what is this there's some weird like situation this is also kind of like the setup for some weird horror movie, right? It's like, oh, I went back to a house with these three ladies in the middle of the night and they've forced me to stay
Starting point is 01:17:03 here. Yes. Because they're like, it's late or something like that. They're like, you can just sleep here. Why don't you just sleep here? And then like, Lisa Kudra's like, you must fuck this person. He is here all night. Like, she keeps yelling all night. I hate to say it, but I actually would prefer
Starting point is 01:17:19 the reverse knock knock to whatever the fuck this is. Man, that knock knock is unwatchable. Not even my love for Keanu could prevent me from turning that off. Bad, bad stuff. It's trash. Eli, that is what I was thinking of.
Starting point is 01:17:35 But so they he's taking a shower and get a nice little ass shot of him, not too shabby. And she's like, ooh, and she's like trying to pour herself a shot, but she like pours whiskey all over the place because his ass is so great. Oh, I've been there, dude. I would have done it. And I can't believe it turns out. It's like, oh, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:52 oh, that was my best friend, my best friend. My best mate dude they were bandmates gerard butler engineered this whole thing so he could pass off his wife to the bandmate billy gallagher this is insane i mean not she's she's got some lines here that are just truly stunning
Starting point is 01:18:10 she goes uh she goes i haven't had a new man in 10 years after i'm dead i'll deliver you a package get ready to unwrap it and like she's talking about like you know like being in a long-term relationships like wearing a pair of shoes for so long or something
Starting point is 01:18:28 like that and I don't know if I'm ready for a new pair of shoes and then his line is a real stone cold stunner dude he goes uh how about going barefoot a while dude it's my Jeffrey Dean Morgan impression it's your close man it's really I can't even
Starting point is 01:18:44 do you can't even do it justice he is so terrifically bad at this Irish accent but like his sexy line she's talking about like relationships being like shoes and he's like how about you just go bare for a while. This is going to be a real raw dog fucking. Yeah. First of all, we need a condom, sweetheart.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Let's slow down. There is another creepy line where she kisses him and he's like, oh, wow, you're awfully sweet. She's like, oh, last guy that said that to me said he doesn't date 13 year old girls and he's like, lucky for you, neither do I. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:19:17 ew, thank you for not being a pedophile. Can we move on? I was really unsure if I was going to sleep with this guy, but then he confirmed that He's not a child rapist and I was all about it. So let me review my options. This guy who might be a child molester or the guy that puts bodies in stereo box. That's it.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Uh, take your pick less. It's a world of terrifying hunks. It's a monster party outside your house. Maybe, just maybe like the person you go for next shouldn't be involved, shouldn't have been involved with your fucking husband and you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be, you date a guy that works for your fucking mom. Yes. Well, she doesn't find out until after they fuck
Starting point is 01:20:00 after the deed is done, dude, yeah. By the way, that's intentional. I think Jeffrey Dean Morgan's a bit of a scumbag here. The way they never shut up about this guy, the box is probably in the room. Definitely. Yeah, I didn't get confirmation on whether the box made it overseas.
Starting point is 01:20:17 No, you know what, dude? She was thinking about it, but then this is 2007, all those forums came out, like, what are you transporting over overseas like you know and forget it. It was way too much paperwork to take the box. Just scatter his ashes in Ireland and be done with this dude. I would be great. I'm sorry Lisa Cudrow, you can't come with us. Your seat is going to the box. Yeah, because when Jeffrey Dean Morgan says it's after they screw and he's like one of the funniest lines I totally cackled.
Starting point is 01:20:46 He's like, so tell me about your man who died. And this is where yeah, he's like, wait a minute. no oh not me me jenny and like they used to beat a band together it's like irish wham they shared everything dude that's exactly right stage time songwriting credits and women i think it's just like oh man you know i always told my bud me me that he could fuck me wife after i died so i'm gonna set up this letter writing campaign yeah oh man we had a bet if who whoever to die first. The other guy gets to fuck the other his wife. This is the end game he's been engineering from this start
Starting point is 01:21:29 this twisted fucking jigsaw motherfucker. She should have a was I a bet a moment at the end of all this. Oh yeah, definitely. And also Irish Wham, man, if replace the shitty poke song I love you till the end. Get rid of that and fucking put in like
Starting point is 01:21:44 wake me up before you go go. I don't hang me in alcohol. I'd be into that. I'd be way into Irish Wham. Big time. Oh, so she goes to visit his parents. It's like, well, I guess I'll get the visit
Starting point is 01:22:01 to Jerry's parents out of the way. Wow, what a great fucking... Also, his parents skipped his funeral. Like, his dad had a stomach ache or something. I don't know, man. Like, oh, no, he's surgery. I know. I get it. But like, it's your only fucking son who died at like 30
Starting point is 01:22:18 or 35 or something. Yeah. You got to get to that fucking funeral. I'm sorry. At least one of you. Like representation from the country. Yeah. Like, come on. And the funny thing is the only thing that really comes from it is they're like, yeah, you know, we did kind of use to hate your guts. I guess we got over it. I don't know. Well, thanks for visiting. She says, well, you should visit us more often. I'm like, fuck you. You're in Ireland. And you ghosted my husband's funeral. You can eat shit, lady. also you're not like it's you don't have that social obligation anymore you're not part the family is that what connected them is gone we're thinking about putting together a foundation in jerry's name we'd like you to be a part of it I'm licking all these stamps
Starting point is 01:23:05 yeah that would be great look at the stamps in windies where he falls on the What's your cheapest stamps? We have the flashback here of how they met in Ireland. And she's just like wandering the street trying to find a national park that she's already walking in. Yeah. And this is another 20 minutes off the clock because this is a long sequence. This is useless. Big time.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Useless, completely useless. I don't need to see how they met. Nope. Absolutely not. I know I learned nothing new here, you know. It's just, well, he does have some. creptacular shit where he's like you know he's like
Starting point is 01:23:52 I don't remember what the setup is but he's telling her how he the gist is he just likes to stare at women and get give out what he refers to as truth signals yeah okay and it's just like I can just look at a girl and make her
Starting point is 01:24:08 want to kiss me by sending out I guess good vibes I'm Dracula yeah he's got this guy's got like a book like the method or like fucking like dating for pros exactly yep he just watched a fox special hosted by some dude named mysterio my favorite my favorite book is i hope they serve beer and hell oh man get away from those guys um yes at jerry's really fun funeral he wants to read the third chapter right to i hope they serve pure now i'm going to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:24:44 there's got to be one more envelope coming it's the manuscript from me book truth signals publish it yeah oh yeah man make it a morvern caler movie after this yes dude yes god damn it so they meet and it's like it's it's a meat
Starting point is 01:25:05 cute there's a dog involved good looking dog here appreciate good looking dog that he makes her think initially she's about to be attacked by that's cute and again like we said this earlier and because like she's supposed to will be playing really young too so like she is full on kicked in the head in this scene she's just like oh my gosh is that a wolf and it's like i don't know dude you're a woman like is that a wolf yeah you're a grown adult does that look like a fucking wolf to you
Starting point is 01:25:38 and he's like the whole time he's like whispering like arc all right now don't he move because it's like a velociraptor it's gonna see you oh the dog's coming this way and then like like he man he plays this I think this is also you can find this in his fucking truth signals book he's like all right now it's a good idea if ye turn around and face me very slowly and like she doesn't they start making out
Starting point is 01:26:06 like she gets hip to it eventually but it does start with him being like you're gonna get mauled by a wolf now also I'm gonna die hump you in this Irish field do they start making out street and if you resist i sick the dog on you chapter three of truth signals eyeing the wolf oh yep dude definitely and then like it's kind of cute where she's like don't tell me your name if i if i walk into the right bar and you're there we'll know it's meant to be or whatever which i guess is what you see earlier on when she comes in that's what that is that's right that's right
Starting point is 01:26:45 when he's singing Galloway girl. So that's a cool fucking whatever mind fuck from the movie P.S. I love you. Great. From the mind of Christopher Nolan, it's P.S. I love you. Awesome. And, you know, time is a flat fucking who gives his shit.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Because of all the time jumping, man. Like at this point, you know, we're nearing the end of this two hour and eight minute movie. And it's like the meeting at the end of the, like I don't care. No. I don't give a shit because I, already know they got
Starting point is 01:27:17 married, found love, and he also is dead. After she fucks Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I just couldn't care. Like, after that, it's really difficult to keep up of what is fucking saying in this movie. Well, what's insane is you watch a movie like this and you're like, okay, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:33 like, structurally speaking, the big trip to Ireland, like the movie will end in Ireland. Yes. And it's like, you know, I had not seen this movie until the other night. And so I'm like, okay, so now like she's over there and she's with her friends and she's going to form
Starting point is 01:27:49 some Jeffrey Dean Morgan relationship and then all of a sudden she just goes back to New York and it's only to as far as I can tell the only thing is to say now she's got a job as a badass designer and also be she ties up loose ends with fucking Harry Connick Jr.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Pretty much except like she goes into another like grief spiral and starts like not communicating with anybody again and that's like another long ass montage of like Lisa Kudrow calling her being like, hey, you're supposed to be my maid of honor, we need to make plans for this
Starting point is 01:28:20 wedding, and then Gina Gershan's like, you know, and I don't know where James Marsters was for this one, but she's like, I'd really love for you to come to this doctor's appointment I have, like for the baby. And then it's like, oh, maybe I could also design shoes all of a sudden. If I'm in your wedding party, maybe don't tell me about
Starting point is 01:28:38 your great wedding on my fucking grief vacation. Don't like, do, like, Yeah, that's true. Yeah. It's like, come on, hurry up. Get over your grief. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:28:49 And like, it just, it turns into a thing where like, she learns that she wants to design shoes. And I'm like, dude, I've been watching this movie for an hour and 45 minutes. Fuck you. Yeah. Like, you know. Absolutely, dude. And you even see her, there's one point where she goes and does like some sort of
Starting point is 01:29:06 continuing ed class. And I'm like, why am I watching her learn how to make shoes? What is happening? This isn't the cobblest. Get the fuck out of you. Pepper that in at the start. Like, oh, I married you, but remember my dream was to design shoes. And I never were able to because I need to support this fucking house, this giant apartment I need to support.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I need to give you health insurance, Jerry, because you're a foreign national with a limo company that is underwater. Yeah, the Wendy's money is running out. But the thing, it's funny how she discovers she wants to. because like in the very long the meeting scene it's like she doesn't know what she wants to do but she wants to do something in art and like she never she never figures out she's 30 and there's this like Bruce Wayne becoming Batman scene like she knocks over his shoe and Jerry's like fucking suspender buckle is on the shoe she's like I shall become what I fear the most shoes I do not understand it we've got to kill the shoe woman why do we fall down master wayne because we're not wearing the proper footwear it is so stupid and then she's like i guess i could yeah i'll design shoes dude and then so we have this thing she's got to like make good with lisa kudrow and
Starting point is 01:30:27 shit and so you know we cut to kleinfelds because it's 2007 and say yes to the dress is all the fucking rage oh yeah dude so we're at klinefelds lisa kudro is alone trying a dress on no like you would find somebody man you're not going by yourself like Hillary's Mike is not the only person this woman knows and Hillary's Mike just walks into the store like sorry about that here's some shoes I designed for you get out of here and you stick the shoes up your ass lady yeah like I would like to design the shoes for your wedding oh I've already ordered them like four months ago yeah exactly because I'm getting married fucking next month or whatever it is you're totally right Chris I have like three sets I'm ready I got the reception ones ready you know the ones to dance so I got those ready to go to I don't need your shit go away she goes on this disastrous date with Harry Connick Jr
Starting point is 01:31:17 around here where they're talking and she fucking calls him Jerry by accident dude this I yelled in my apartment I was like oh it's like so horrifying to imagine this happening
Starting point is 01:31:30 and again it's like really late in the movie and I was kind of checking out I'll be honest she's like that's really funny Jerry and I'm like oh not good dude it is hilarious too because you know your movie has problems when you were rooting
Starting point is 01:31:43 for the potential serial killer a character because he's like he's like you uh you think you'll ever move on from Jerry or do you need one of his letters to figure that out and I was like fucking boom is this where he takes her to Yankee Stadium that's like the
Starting point is 01:31:59 next movement because they kind of break up for a while they're like being friends and then she gets the last letter from Jerry and it's like move on with your life yada yada yada you should date somebody else and like he gets he gives her a call so she's like he's like i'll send ye a sign and then like uh harry connor junior calls she's like that must be the sign i should go marry that guy and she's a thing that happens right here too where it's like it cuts to
Starting point is 01:32:26 an establishing shot of new york and it's like christmas lights are everywhere you can see christmas trees and stuff and it just again and you've worked your way into a corner because you've been doing it for the rest of the movie so you have to do it here but it's even dumber because you can see all of this other shit already on the screen and the text comes up and just goes winter yeah got it thanks for anyone who wasn't paying attention to the fucking christmas tree on your screen well this this scene drives me nuts because it goes to like this movie does a lot of things where like you would think there's going to be big stakes or like a moment of relief or satisfaction in this but they always upend it because they think
Starting point is 01:33:05 let's just do what they don't expect like the parents you expect there to be some big riff between the father and the son or some shit like that and it's just like they were lazy and like this one you're like oh she's gonna find you know she she's gonna find out that she likes a hariconic junior and they're gonna have a nice little relationship and she's like she kisses him and she's like oh ew no no no no he's like brother me too it's like kissing my sister what are you talk shut up what do you mean by that end this movie this is your one note to end this movie on kiss and then end your movie well and the funny thing is i mean like i'm sorry, but you filmed
Starting point is 01:33:41 at the old Yankee Stadium for this? He's got some line like, oh, my uncle can get us in here any time. Exactly. Look at me. I'm great. Yeah, my uncle is the one who gives me all my stereo boxes. Oh, you shouldn't heard that.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Oh, crap. Hey, you know, they're going to demolish this old Yankee Stadium. I could bury you at home plate. What? Nothing. The whole, like, the kissing and like, it's like we're brother and sister. Kathy Bates should just be his mom. I don't know. I mean, it's funny that you say that, Eric, because this movie is so terribly written
Starting point is 01:34:15 that at the setup for everything, I thought that was the case. I thought that he was related to Kathy Bates and I had no understanding that Hillary Swank was supposed to be the daughter for like the first 20 minutes of the movie. So that's another PS, my mom's a fucking psycho. Like, I just raised them separately
Starting point is 01:34:31 and I have this one work in the bar with me. And I raised them separately. They didn't know that they were related and then they came together as adults and wanted to have sex. We didn't know. But it's like, we didn't know. It's, dude, this week on we didn't know, we go to the Americas. Oh, they fucked each other.
Starting point is 01:34:51 They didn't know. What do you say, Kathy Bates? I didn't know. But you know, you're right, Andrew. I mean, the movie begins, the problem of this movie is fucking, it's, it's much ado about nothing. there's 140 characters in this movie like there does not need to be
Starting point is 01:35:11 there should be two characters a friend and the mom and let's call it a day she also humiliates harry conic junior by making him read this final letter that she's already read
Starting point is 01:35:21 and knows what it fucking exactly you you you and he's like I don't know man you think she's calling you Jerry now wait until you're fucking that's exactly right man but yeah
Starting point is 01:35:32 but they they kiss and like it's lucky for her because he's like oh it's like kissing my sister I can't kill my sister. I can never eat my sister's face. If I was attracted to you, I'd certainly kill you. But if you're, if you're like my sister, then you, I guess you have agency and a soul.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Gosh, darn it. See, the desire, it breeds the killing feeling. And since I don't got the desire, I don't want to kill you. It's very simple, really. Kathy Bates runs in. She's like, Daniel, what have you done? You murdered your sister. Oh, sorry, Mom.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I didn't know. Gerard Butler is dying and like Hillary's like oh my God I'm going to be so alone it's like all I have is my mom and my sister and then he goes there is another oh man
Starting point is 01:36:24 and so yeah then it just it ends with her being like dear Jerry now I'm writing you a letter and I guess I'll address it to heaven are you going to throw it in the trash when you're done what is this I mean, there's probably got a fun little journal where she puts them. I hope.
Starting point is 01:36:40 She's sticking it in the fucking cube, dude, so he can read it later. Yeah, definitely. And then because this movie is co-sponsored by Air Ireland, we go back to Ireland with Kathy Bitt. Kathy Bates, by the way, reveals that she was the one behind it all, which is really creepy, which we kind of talk about already. But yeah, now we're in Ireland, and she's like, mom, mom's never been to Ireland.
Starting point is 01:36:59 We're going to go see it. It's going to be so much fun. And it's amazing because it's like, mom's never seen Ireland. great you bring your irish mother to go see you know you know ireland totally great oh what's that oh you went right back to the tiny hometown where you're dead husband exactly again james joyce wrote ulysses there let's go fucking see somewhere else yeah dude i don't know maybe you stop off in cork maybe you had to dublin i don't know dude but like this tiny ass town again we got to see the toilet jerry used Yeah, important.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Well, we wanted to go to Kill Kenny, but I had to see Jerry's fucking middle school. And this is where she makes eyes with Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who obviously shows up again, and the father. And their eyes light up. Kathy Bates is just like swimming downstairs.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And we are ready to roll with this family orgy. Oh, yeah. Well, you know that it's going good, dude, because she talks about earlier in the film, how like before their before Kathy Bates husband the Hillary Swank's father left them you know she's like oh I used
Starting point is 01:38:10 to laugh with your father all the time and like you know Hillary Swank's like I don't remember you ever laughing so then it's like the end of the movie this old guy like says one line or something and she starts fucking cackling and then it's like oh see life's brought back into mom too I guess we're
Starting point is 01:38:26 and then like Jeffrey Dean Morgan's definitely like hey how long are you staying this time everybody's over it and ready to fuck that's what the ending of this movie is well she leaves it open-ended right because he asks her like how long are you staying this time and then she's like i don't know maybe indefinitely i hope ireland like shoes i'm moving in with geoffrey dad morgan oh my god uh this is uh hi my name uh jeff uh this is my father jeffery dad morgan that is stupid Chris
Starting point is 01:39:05 I love it. That's really great. That's like tattoo where you just get Jeffrey Dad Morgan on your shoulder. And the final line of this movie is she signs off this letter is and guess what P.S. I love you.
Starting point is 01:39:22 She doesn't even say it though. It's like no. P.S. Guess what? And it's like kind of cute. Oh, is that? Oh, P.S. Guess what? That's what it is. Guess what? Jerry. Me, me, my mom are getting fucked by Irishman. We're honoring you.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Going for that Irish D Jerry. Oh, and then, man, you know, it always, it will somehow find a way to take the wind out of my sales even further. When you were watching a movie like this that just fucking sucks
Starting point is 01:39:54 from sunup till sundown, dude, and then you get to these credits and this shitty movie is dedicated to a dead person. Of course. god damn it i would be haunting this film team for eternity oh absolutely don't don't put my name on this piece of shit movie don't you be doing that shit don't do that don't put that evil we got flogging molly we didn't get drop kick somehow we got flogging molly yeah i mean and that song i love that fogging molly song if i ever leave this world alive it's it's great and in other better
Starting point is 01:40:27 circumstances i've shed a tear to that song but like here i'm like you're just poisoning a another thing. Poisoning another thing that I like. Just use one of the Stock Van Morrison songs that's not gonna like you've heard it a hundred times
Starting point is 01:40:41 already. You don't need to do this. And that dude sucks. Yeah. At this point yes, this guy does suck. Oh shit man. Would anybody recommend this movie?
Starting point is 01:40:50 Oh no. We caught this movie. My wife and I were on vacation I think last year at some point or the year before I forget. And we're in a hotel and this came on. and oh cool it's exactly what i want to watch at a bullshit dumb hotel scenario we turned it off
Starting point is 01:41:07 like with commercials dude you don't even want to know how long this thing is like we turned it off when geoffrey dean morgan showed up like this is not ending and it just uh so this is last night was the first time i've seen all of this movie and i mean all of it it's just way too long and their chemistry isn't that bad it's probably a better gerard butler performance i think all told we talk a lot of s about that dude i think he is he is sort of charming in this movie that sort of something. But Hillary Swank is just, I mean, and she's a great actress, you know, two Oscars under her belt, but like
Starting point is 01:41:37 just does not have whatever this character needs, and it's, it's a problem. It was Boys Don't Crying, what's the other one? Is it a million dollar baby she won? Yes. Oh, cool, cool, cool. Unless I made that, I'll double check that. Oh, I don't know. Chris Cabin? Oh, God, no. This was terrible. This is among the worst we've done, I think. I really had trouble
Starting point is 01:41:57 with this one. I don't find much of the cast. Like, I think they were all, I think everybody's trying here, but nobody's really making it, selling it to me. I don't know if that's a miscasting issue or just that the script is fucking terrible. I will say, well, it's a Scottish guy playing an Irish guy, so the casting probably is something. Speaking of that, here's something that hung me up. There's this weird, she drops a line, Hillary Swank towards the end says, I know where I'm going very pointedly. And I think she's referencing the Powell Pressburger movie. Is that right? I think. because it is about that, but it's about a woman going to Scotland.
Starting point is 01:42:35 God damn it. A stupid, stupid movie. Insane. Yeah, never watch it. Don't watch it. Well, it's a no for me to, you know, I'd rather have the end of million-dollar baby happen than watch it again. So it's a no. It's just a flat-out no. That's all I'm going to say.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Fuck it. Yeah, no, it's a no. I will say hilariously back when this movie came out we fucking had Hillary Swank come to the burns for some like donor thing or whatever and this was the movie they played beforehand and it was like man like it was like all of these people having to be like
Starting point is 01:43:13 wow this movie you've done it again and meanwhile I'm up in the projection booth I had seen maybe like the first 20ish minutes of this movie because I remember doing that event and helping out with the projection and everything and at that time I just remember being like
Starting point is 01:43:30 Jesus, this is awful. This is truly awful. I hope the rest of the movie is better than the first 20 minutes. And nope, it sets the tone. This is trash. Never watch it. I did have fun talking about it today. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:43:45 But that is PSI Love You from the year 2007 directed by Richard LaGravenais. If you want more, We Hate Movies, of course, check out patreon.com slash we hate movies. We've had some new developments this month on the Patreon. That's right. We've got a new $10 tier, which is super exciting for us. For all you Melro 2 and O'O fans,
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Starting point is 01:44:27 If you like Zach Snyder's, Zach's Justice League and Jackson's Justice League he's a brilliant filmmaker right yeah we wanted this the internet
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Starting point is 01:44:53 that I was like wait what is the episode and I got excited to learn all over again that it's it's very exciting to learn or relearn and also on the Gleap Glac
Starting point is 01:45:02 we've got Ula that's at the $8 level that's a job as dancer and the Nexus is back to regular programming one episode of Star Trek one episode of the next generation and BTW
Starting point is 01:45:16 this month is February 2021 on the Nexus we will be doing the season finale of season two so finally once we get past February we are
Starting point is 01:45:28 done with Dr. Pulaski on that show. Do they shoot her into the sun? Is that how it ends? No, it's an even bigger disgrace, dude. It's just the old like, yeah, we're not going to mention you ever again. Take her put her in the airlock. Seriously. So I'm very much looking forward to be ridding ourselves of that character. But Steve Sadegh, as always, here on We Hate Movies, the show rolls on here on the main feed, WHM Prime, as we call it.
Starting point is 01:45:52 What do we got coming out next Tuesday? We are doing Mr. Nanny. and we're actually, we couldn't possibly, it's not a movie that only four people can talk about. We're bringing front of the show Clint Worthington on to talk with us. That's right. That's going to be a lot of fun. It's been a long-ass time since I've seen this.
Starting point is 01:46:10 This particular Hulk Hogan vehicle. I watch this movie a lot. We're talking like recently? No, as a kid. This is like three ninjas, this, and the Chris Farley movies. Wow. So you've seen this more than his sex tape, right? Absolutely, yes, 100%.
Starting point is 01:46:25 That's the one I watched one. many times. Well, you do love pork. I love too much. I like pork in this belly, and pork is like fucking, right? Yes. That's exactly right, dude. So until next week with Hulk Hogan's sex tape, I'm Andrew Jupin.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. Take it easy. P.S. I love you. That was a hit gum podcast.

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