We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 534 - The Pest

Episode Date: March 2, 2021

On this week's episode, the 2021 Listener Request Month kicks off with one of the most requested titles in show history, The Pest! Listen as the guys try their best to make heads or tails of this drea...dful, dreadful film! Can you tell it took three days to write the script? What is with all of these offensive impressions The Pest is doing? Did Leguizamo think he was doing a Groucho Marx-level performance? And can we not with all the "little specimen" stuff, Jeffrey Jones? PLUS: Did Leguizamo himself push for this film to be ripped from theaters after a week? The Pest stars John Leguizamo, Jeffrey Jones, Freddy Rodriguez, Edoardo Ballerini, Aries Spears, Charles Hallahan, Tammy Townsend, Tom McCleister, and Joe Morton; directed by Paul Miller. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week on the program, it's a movie with the protagonist so rotten, it makes you root for Jeffrey Jones. It's the pest. I'm Andrew Jupin. Stephen Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies. Fucking people.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Shit. Thank you. Hello everyone. Welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always, that's right. We are kicking off the 2021 listener request month with a real, real rotten piece of cinema. It's the pest from 1997 directed by Paul Miller. You may be familiar with his work if you've ever watched the country music award broadcast on television. This is my working theory is Paul Miller's a ghost. A real person couldn't have directed this. This was corporal form direction. Well, he also worked on Mad TV, so I definitely see some of those elements here, maybe. I do. I buy that because I don't believe that real people direct award shows. You know what I mean? I feel like it's either ghosts or possibly people in the Witness Protection Program.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Or artificial intelligence. They're not physical manifestations. They're like, you can put your hand through them. I think if you are any member that is named in the hit song Monster Mash, you are allowed to direct an award show do you ever see those things where it's like a real sort of inceptiony type thing where like a like some dude who directed like the Oscars
Starting point is 00:02:12 will win an Emmy because he directed the Oscars yeah that's all fake we don't need an award for that shit we really do not we do not need to spend the time on it and also all those like and Lao watch go see everybody in the booth that's Pixar Pixar puts that together it's all computers it's fake it's totally fake oh you know what i was just fake this fucking movie how about that i uh i i i you know what i'm not going to give in that it isn't fake like i don't i don't i barely
Starting point is 00:02:42 remember this fucking thing it's just like a force of malevolence that was visited upon me at some point yesterday it's like an alien abduction right chris it's just like it it takes you you know you experienced something bad but you don't quite know what And you end up smelling like a bog at the end of it too. Absolutely, 100% on that one. I would rather have some sort of probe jammed in one of my holes than watch this ever again. And I should say, I watched it last night for the first time. I'd never seen it, but I like, the poster for this, like the VHS cover for this,
Starting point is 00:03:19 I remember just like proudly passing by this movie in the video store. Just like a absolutely not thanks, but no thanks. I was, like, just nonstop saw this trailer, and I was just like, there's no way. I'm just not going to do this. You never saw it, Chris? I never saw it before. This was my first time. First time.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Steve, is this your first time? It is, and I believe listeners can agree that are so inclined. I believe there's a substantial comic book advertisement, like the back ad of a comic book of the past. I remember, like, I think I have comic books in my house that have John Liguizamo in the stupid sunglasses. You got to fucking burn. those dude that's bad juju man you just moved into a new place you got to get that stuff out of there you got to get it out of there immediately i can't believe i'm the only one that has seen this before i saw this as a kid it was probably on hbo or you know one of the movie networks
Starting point is 00:04:11 or something it seems like something that was like a bargain bin the hbio acquisition it kind of makes sense an idiot producer brain like john lequizamo is best known for doing one man's shows he won an obi one two drama desks that doesn't mean anything necessarily plenty of bad stuff is one obis and drama desks but like he's a big name for doing this stuff let's do let's just have him do his thing in a movie plus a sventura-esque stuff yes yes i think jim carrie is definitely an influence here and and i guess carry at the time was probably moving over to the cable guy doing some a little least more interesting work and john ligazama was there trying to get that scrap um we should say this uh the first week of listener request month because we would never
Starting point is 00:04:57 do this uh without being forced no no no and you know steve thanks for pointing that out again because the people who requested this what did we ever do to you this is i mean this is up there i mean this this year especially between this and warriors of virtue big ones are coming off the board the only one the biggest one that didn't get picked out of the hat was fear which we have to do this year, I think. I think we really need to find Yeah, just get that out of the way. Sorry, I have to stalk your daughter. Well, that'll be perfect for like Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Oh, yeah, there you go. So before we get going here, let's listen to one of these several requests for this film from someone who clearly hates our rotten guts. Hi, this is Sarah from New Jersey, and I was calling to recommend 1997's The Pest, which features John Leguizano and Jeffrey Jones And it's pretty much the dregs of humanity. And it made me very sad to watch it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But it would make me happy if you guys talked about it. So I would really appreciate it. Farewell. And good luck. Farewell, indeed. Farewell indeed, man. You should say that to someone. Like, you know, I felt like I was in a ship that was just about to, like, sail off the edge of the world watching this movie.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Ma'am, I clearly do not have good luck. This got chosen. Where do you think I'm at? here. I paused this movie halfway through and Mark Rylance took me by the hand and brought me on the ship and said we're going back to watch it. There's no going back
Starting point is 00:06:32 now, Eric. Oh, we have to go back to the TriStar logo and start it all over again. Dude, I wish I fucking got killed at a boat whilst watching this film. Absolutely. Better day. Not bad. I
Starting point is 00:06:47 think I dodge this movie kind of like a bullet. I was not a job. Le Guzamo head, but I had a lot of, and I, oh, actually, you know, still do have a lot of goodwill towards John Leguizamo, and I don't know why that is. I think he's a talented guy. I think you know, he's a good actor. He's a dramatic and I, he, his later period has been pretty decent, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, he's really good in Romeo plus Juliet. Yes. He's a really good temple. And like, uh, I've, he, this was like, kind of the last gasp of him doing full on comedy. Yeah. Like, because House of Buck and got cam. He got a divorce. This thing comes out. They make sure it's out of theaters within a week. Wait a second. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So he does House of Buggin, which was him doing like sketch comedy. Me and Chris watch that show, not together, but me and Chris maybe the only two. I remember a single joke from House of Bugger. Would you like to hear it? Oh, of course. Absolutely. And I think about this joke quite often. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:46 You're so stupid. You need to pull your pants down to count to 11. And I think I use that in, like, like in like grade school. I think that was something. The dick is a digit. Dick is the 11th digit in this scenario. Digit dick. One thing about Hassabuggin, it does I think have the first instance of a movie podcast in it. There is an, one of the recurring bits they would do is a bunch of guys. It was Luis Guzman, uh, John Likizamo and Michael Bolton from office space. Yeah. Herman. Dave Herman. Oh, sure. Yeah. And they would just like talk during a movie, well, a movie, they're in the audience of a movie
Starting point is 00:08:25 and they're talking during a movie. And they're like, so who do you think, you know, do you think Freddie or Jason would kill each other? I know, actually, I think Freddie would kill Jason. Nah, Jason would kill Freddy. Are you kidding me? Oh, but what about Alien versus Predator? Ah, Predators got him. No, no, no. Alien's going to burst out of the chest. Come on. Yeah, it's real shocking. This was canceled almost immediately. And in this week's episode is brought to you by casper they taught us everything we know i was i said do they uh did they presage all movies like oh what about a green book what do you think about that hold the pizza come out of here no now wait a second though because i have to i have a very
Starting point is 00:09:09 important question for chris because so chris you said he does house of buggin and then what happened i think he gets a divorce so okay what fucking e true hollywood story john loguzamo did you watch that there's divorce information in your head it's the literally just like on his IMDB page he's advertising his divorce oh is that like a project an upcoming project divorce pending is the idea I mean it just it's it just seems weird to me that like he makes this like this is the last thing that happens and that it's like almost all mostly dramatic roles after I kind of agree with you Chris because it's weird like he this I would have guessed if I like you've told me like hey man and even when I watch this movie like
Starting point is 00:09:50 what year did this come out? I would have said like 94, 95. I would have guessed earlier 1997 felt so late. Because he was a younger guy, like, you know what I mean, around Marrier Brothers, it kind of makes sense. Like, oh, like we said, this guy's got this like one-man show. It's really something. Let's just make a movie that celebrates whatever that is. That makes sense, but he's a known
Starting point is 00:10:13 quantity at this point. It makes no sense to do this wretched movie. Well, because like, and the way they put it out, like Universal is going to put it out, they kick it down to a subsidiary, then they have to make a deal with TriStar to fund a month-long shoot a three-day writing
Starting point is 00:10:31 period. That seems, that seems a bit much. I refuse to believe that someone actually spent three days on the screenplay for this movie. We should note the same year that this
Starting point is 00:10:47 trash came out. Oh yeah, that's what I was trying. he's he's way funnier as clown and spawn the same year it's a better better movie honestly oh yeah 100% it's you know you got michael jai white martin sheen i would kill for martin sheen in this film uh yeah i don't think martin sheen would be killing to be in this movie i would kill for a d b cooper i know it sounds weird to say but a d b cooper would really have burnt me up here d b swini you're talking Not the famed missing bank robber. I would kill for D.B. Cooper to get some of that money he absconded with. Okay, back in the day, I would have killed for D.B. Cooper for a price.
Starting point is 00:11:31 D.B. Cooper. And, you know, Saturday Night Live. And here's your host, D.B. Cooper. Hey, man, it's so great to be on SNL. Really happy. Lorne, thank you so much. I didn't think I was going to be able to do it. I twisted my ankle jumping out that plane.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Most SNL guests, or guest hosts, rather, are criminals. Hey, arguably funnier movie than this that he did two years later, Summer of Sam. Yeah, I like Summer of Sam. So this is, I mean, yeah, he stars as the titular pest, and it is just sort of like, and I think whenever like you run out of ideas, is for like I want to do something with a comedian that's kind of fun and give him a lot of room to like riff he's a con artist it's just like I don't know he's a con artist right because you're totally right because that affords you the opportunity for him to do uh you know different
Starting point is 00:12:34 disguises different characters and so on and in this movie what that turns into is some of the most dated garbage race comedy I've ever ever seen and I have to believe that we're good enough as a human being society that the shit in this movie is why nobody remembers it anymore well as the joker will say we live in a society what is the point of even making him a con artist in this I feel like you just make him a kid that's living with his parents that doesn't have his life together that's pretty much what he is we never see him actually
Starting point is 00:13:09 really do much conning do we he has a job at the Chinese restaurant delivering food that I guess is a con because he's not who he says he is he's evading consequences for his cons is most of this movie the cons have already happened all the good stuff already happened you're right because at the beginning it's it's four minutes of him singing in the shower about what a scammer he is and you know what he's the one thing he does is like the worst three card Monty riff ever but that's it's terrible yeah yeah he's he's conning people because he's pretending that he's blind and doing a like is a three card money because he's got like coconut cups or something yeah it is three cards I think at least he says it is. Oh, I thought it was one of those, like, guess which coconut half the ball is under or something? One of his friends also built the machine to do the card game? Sure. It's like, it's absolute anarchy.
Starting point is 00:14:04 This whole fucking movie. We got to talk about the shower scene a little more. Yeah, of course, dude. This is this like Ernest P. World type of shit. Oh, my God. I didn't even connect that, but you're totally right. That's exactly what this is. It's John Leguizamo doing earnest.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yes. And we get to see all those great characters such as gangster, Dracula, Asian. Uh-huh. Yep. And just repeat that. Yeah, over and over again. And he's saying, you know what? And I took a screenshot and I forwarded it to you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:35 He's singing in a pissy shower. There is some yellow water at his feet because they keep cutting down to his feet. I don't know if it's a joke or somebody accidentally pissed. I'm unclear. I think it's a joke. He's brewing. up some dick beer, folks. He absolutely is.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think he supplied the dick beer, but I think that's supposed to be a joke most of all. No, I think they were just taking forever to film this scene, and he was just pissing in the shower. Yeah, I'm just going to do it. It was a little cold on set, you know what I mean? Like your feet get a little cold, you pee on them. Oh, yeah, I'm going to warm up my toes. I'm going to piss all over my feet. Leguizamo.
Starting point is 00:15:12 It is so much. And it's always like, when you give a movie a theme song, like this, it's like, you're writing a check you can't cash. Absolutely. Here I am and here I go. I'm gonna make you laugh and I'm gonna make you go. And it sucks too, fuck you. Because like
Starting point is 00:15:29 it's clearly like a rapper's delight parody and like I just wish I was dead. It's so terrible. And like it's also it does serve as like a primer for like here's all the wacky, hilarious stuff
Starting point is 00:15:45 you're gonna see in this movie. Am I gonna be a Dracula? Am I going to pretend to be a Chinese guy? Watch and find out. I wish you would do more Dracula stuff, honestly. I mean... Sure. Yeah. Going back to the Asian well, he goes to so many times. And I guess that must come from like his like one-man show stuff. Like, you know, growing up in New York, you'd always find Asian people who would sound a little something like this. This whole movie is predicated on, I think, insert ethnicity would sound a little. little something like this.
Starting point is 00:16:19 It's the whole movie, and it's not just him doing it. Jeffrey Jones is doing a rancid job with this German accent. Holy Toledo! It's awful all around. Well, here's the thing is when you write this movie and it's like, oh, it'll be funny, it'll be a German
Starting point is 00:16:34 guy, and like, you offer it to whomever you offer it to, and you get Jeffrey Jones five calls later, it's like, you know what, dude, let's just call him a fucking businessman and give Jeffrey some room to maneuver because Jeffrey Jones pretty troubles funny guy right
Starting point is 00:16:50 like a guy that could especially like a straight man who's running a foul of the pest I could see that working it makes total sense but what doesn't make sense is how this character that LeguZama was playing here even lived long enough
Starting point is 00:17:06 to encounter Jeffrey Jones because it's shocking that because clearly this is every day it's every day with this asshole screaming in the shower bothering this family it's crazy to me that they haven't murdered him and why even make like the most dangerous game type of thing why not just have geoffrey jones be american like you said and he was a guy that got conned or something there's some motivation there totally just a revenge thing yes well the most
Starting point is 00:17:33 the fact that this is most dangerous game is it's so dumb well it because it it peters out almost immediately like they get off the island i'm like wait so it's still going on like you couldn't believe it it was like the end of the lost world Jurassic park they went back to civilization Oh, shit, it's a T-Rex. I think it sounds like an Asian guy. What are you saying, Cabin? And it might not have allowed for so many, what I'm going to call for now,
Starting point is 00:17:58 problematic scenes that happen on the layer of the most dangerous game stuff. Set it here. Maybe we don't have that much of that stuff. Perhaps. Yeah. I mean, that's the weird thing, too, right? It's like, you know, when we did,
Starting point is 00:18:12 what was that great, um, Ice Tea movie there, surviving the game. that at least they're like okay we're just gonna like huff it up to like northern california or something like that find a ranch this movie is like no we're sticking to the source material we have to go to a random island for some reason we don't even spend the rest of the movie in no it's like maybe 20 minutes i would wager the i would i would uh venture that the best scenes of this movie with that that's a lowercase b and it's also italicized the best scenes of this movie
Starting point is 00:18:46 are Leguizamo, Ares, Spears, and Freddie Rodriguez kind of fucking around as like a couple of near-do-wells doing whatever. Because then it becomes what I feel this movie is worse than, but feels exactly the same to watch, which is the Jerky Boys movie. Yes. It was just the three of them, like, running pranks or whatever, and like there's any kind of reason for them to do things. Then it's almost a movie. Here's what it is. You can just use the most garbage boilerplate, like, 80s, 90s comedy plot, right? So, like, they're three con artists.
Starting point is 00:19:23 But, of course, in these kinds of movies, right, they're also, like, good guys. You know, like was almost like a known figure helping the community shit like that, right? So they're those guys. And then Jeffrey Jones is like some motherfucker that's going to come in and he's going to bulldoze the community center. And they come up with the great prank, scam, con, whatever, to screw him over and save the community center and bring peace to the neighborhood and that's the movie. Yeah. There it is.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Make it specific to the neighborhood where they live, yeah. No, but it's gross out times. We need gross outs. Everything needs to be gross and disgusting and kind of gross. Like when you're sitting in the shower, you pee on your feet and then you go down there's
Starting point is 00:20:03 farting and you almost make out with your mother. Dude, what is with that dancing? And that was when I was like, this is every day. This is every day with this guy. Like he's grabbing his mother, dragging her out into the dance floor. And like the rest of the family.
Starting point is 00:20:16 is like, hats are past. Yeah, they've kind of resigned themselves to hell, it seems like. I'd move out, man. I don't care if I'm sleeping in a dumpster. I would not be able to stand this guy. No way. The one sibling does seem like she's on the edge
Starting point is 00:20:32 there. I'm on the edge with the past. I just, I mean, like, thank God this movie's 85 minutes, because what? Dude, it's like, it was a
Starting point is 00:20:46 grueling 85 man I thankfully was able to watch it in one sitting because I put it on after Chelsea went to bed I did her that kindness but like God damn that this just go and go and go. I'll tell you you guys think I could pull off
Starting point is 00:21:02 this pest shirt this the comic book stuff on it? I kind of like it. When we finally get to tour in the year 2025 I think you should wear that on the first opening day. It'll be a new segment to the live act that will call throw tomatoes at steve what we're just thinking about best scenes i think one of the best scenes is you know in terms of acting alone uh jeffrey jones you know prowling the
Starting point is 00:21:29 streets of florida for a young boy i mean is that dude that is it's kind of the worst thing i couldn't believe it i was like yeah he's literally driving around in a car with a dude who looks exactly like him which is hilarious and they're just looking for young meat did he know who the camera was on? Now, you just got to set up a photography studio. It's actually kind of surprising that it's not the Jeffrey Jones character, but the Leguizamo character who's allowed to, like, there's a scene where he's going into a playground and like playing basketball
Starting point is 00:22:06 with kids, and I was like screaming at the TV, don't let that guy anywhere near a playground. Yeah, that would be a real mistake for you parents out there if you see someone, one like this like the best keep them away from your children i mean the name pest let alone like you're ready you just kind of are born with a uh restriction on where how how close you can be to schools like it's like my name is the pest it's like you know what dude you can pest across the street uh wait so you were you were playing basketball with the guy who caused himself the duke of deception uh i think you should probably not do that anymore justin okay yeah i will buy you one of those like
Starting point is 00:22:45 movable basketball hoops and we will put it in the driveway. Better yet I'm going to buy you a knife. Hey mom, mom, the pest got me a PlayStation 1. Oh, pardon me? Who? My buddy, the pest. Oh, okay. Is this a kid in your class?
Starting point is 00:23:02 No. It's like, okay. He's a 35-year-old man. So one of the like under threads of this movie is that he also owes $50,000 to the Get Ready to Laugh America
Starting point is 00:23:18 Scottish Mafia It's almost a funny joke But they hang a hat on it Every time they talk about it Like you know what I mean Like Scottish Mafia Like oh okay I get it Like
Starting point is 00:23:28 They hang a whole habadashery on it It's just one hat They beat this joke to death Because it's just It would be sort Like if they never called attention That it's weird It's kind of funny
Starting point is 00:23:40 You know what I mean It's like okay The Scottish Mafia These guys in kilts da-da-da-da-da but it's like well why aren't every time they talk about it somebody's like well why aren't the Italian mafia it's like well that's the joke
Starting point is 00:23:51 then it wouldn't be a comedy okay then the movie continues got it this in three days got it but they're Scottish and they do crime what the joke has to always have a joke on top of it like not only they wear
Starting point is 00:24:07 kilts their guns have like plaid on on the on the handle oh really I didn't notice that. That sucks. There's attention to detail in this movie.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It's just bad. I like seeing the guy from the thing as the head Scottish Mafioso. That's nice. But also the rest of this is terrible.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I hate this style of joke telling where it's not like it's not even one style he's going after. It's just like open the floodgates and try every kind of joke
Starting point is 00:24:36 there is. That's why it's like the jerky boys movie. It's like whatever we can think of and throw at the wall. You know, the only thing that this movie is missing. He's prank phone calls.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And you're right. It strikes me as somebody who, and that's the weirdest part is because John Lugazamo, like, he'd done movies, like a ton of movies. He was, you know, acclaimed in Carlito's way at this point, all this stuff. And it's like, it's one of those things where it almost feels like you're taking somebody who's never done a movie before. And you're like, you know what? Just make the movie other thing and we'll see what happens. But again, like this dude's an actor, like a real deal actor. He's an actor that at this point is in a shit on stage and screen where we know what he's capable of and what works and like this it's just a disaster so I can't I can't even on some levels guys I can't even I feel like part of this is not
Starting point is 00:25:30 real like I feel like I'm in a simulation and we're talking about a fake movie I think it's a get it's just producer brain they saw the one man shows and they didn't see the compelling performer who is just magnetic on his own like just has energy that beams they saw oh maybe they like the dumb jokes maybe if we just give him a lot of dumb jokes that'll work and then he gave they did a show that didn't last and then did this movie that got pulled from theaters after five days that's incredible when whenever you see that that is like
Starting point is 00:26:01 grim financial despair I remember like I've been I've been like working you know the other side of my life is working in movie theaters and shit but doing it's in 2000, right? The only time that I'd ever seen that actually happened was I almost did you guys remember, but odds are you don't. There was a movie,
Starting point is 00:26:23 I never saw it, it's Ben Chaplin and Nicole Kidman, I think it's called the Birthday Girl. Oh, yeah. Dude, that was a like one week and get the fuck out of this theater and I never seen anything like it because like the agreement is usually like
Starting point is 00:26:41 at least two weeks. And this movie tanked so horribly he was like absolutely not this in from the internet ticker yes it opened to the 12th place at the box office in over 12 over 1,200 theaters that's wow that's a situation where you know the house is burned down you know the stable burned down you're just trying to save the fucking pets get those dogs out of there just 12th place is really something if you think about it. I mean, 12th place in 1997 on 1,200 screens, like, 1,200 screens, like, that's not, you know, that's not nothing for 1997. That's a good amount of screens. That is, like, probably, like, fully wide, probably. Yeah, in 1997, yeah, absolutely. I wonder if, like,
Starting point is 00:27:27 if I had seen it, like, because I remember kind of, like, being aware of it, like, oh, maybe I want to want, I like, tell what was not, like, if maybe me and my buddy Robb at the time had gone, did you think it would have got 11th place? You think that was, like, the margin? I think you you guys could have put it right over dude absolutely you know what these two fat kids came to see the movie let's keep it in for a full week oh you know what all last week it was raining everywhere you know one more week let's see what happens oh you know it's a weird thing in this movie that's really uncomfortable in that geoffrey jones like ride-along part he's looking at people and you don't understand why he's doing it he's got these lines where he's like these people are all so teeny. Oh, look at that specimen. It's weird because it's him and this other guy who looks exactly
Starting point is 00:28:17 like a best we've said, they're like these two huge German eggs. It's a very bizarre. Like the two of the, they're humongous egg-shaped men. I believe the assistant there is a member of Noam from Married with Children. That makes sense. Oh, that would
Starting point is 00:28:33 110% track. Pretty sure on that. You got a Tom Seismore. energy is what I would give him. Yes, yes. Tom Seismore without the Coke, though. That's even worse. Tom Seismore, way more funnier than this guy, his presence
Starting point is 00:28:49 would have been welcomed. Yes, absolutely. Because at least then with Seismore, he's good at doing like a, you know, a Villain, so he'd be like threatening in a way. That's a problem. Is there's nothing at all remotely scary throughout this movie. The mafia threat, the
Starting point is 00:29:07 German hunters. It's just it's not real that's the problem never tracks is that we didn't know how menacing geoffrey jones was at the time seeing it now it truly does it's a it's a melding performance into this nazi-ass guy but like back then you couldn't have known but what is this like the whole like this plot also it's just like this oh yeah of course these baby boomer nazis from germany are in miami hunting every race on the planet as secret island an island off the
Starting point is 00:29:41 off of the shores of Miami it doesn't seem to be that far away yes oh little St. James there you go yeah him and Epstein God bought it together I don't understand like but where's the money coming from like I mean I guess it's just old Nazi money I guess it's gold and arts and antiquity
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know absolutely it's just you know he's he's able to spend his days hunting humans for sport due to the rape of Europa. You know what I mean? All the fucking art, the gold, you know. Just turn this into Inside Man where
Starting point is 00:30:15 John Leguizama robs this old aging Nazi. Wait, which bank did they hold up? That has all of my ethnic heads in there. Oh no. Oh, no. Oh, I bet that lockbox really smells.
Starting point is 00:30:33 and there it lies to rub confirming that dude was definitely a no ma'am by the way nice I thought so so yeah we made it in his crew which is Ari Spears playing chubby and Freddie Rodriguez very young Fred Rodriguez as ninja
Starting point is 00:30:57 and then there's like Spears was on mad TV Steve he was yeah okay is he one of those dudes It's like he's definitely more of a stand-up or something, or has he been in other things? I mean, I think his career has forced him to be more of a stand-up. Got it. I mean, I think he's a pretty funny guy, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:19 But then there is, he's got a girlfriend and his girlfriend's friend named Malaria. That's kind of fun. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I was laughing my tits off at that. Malaria. You know, I'm going to drink more on this episode than usual. That's fine, Eric. I'm coasting, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:39 We'll see what happens with this episode. Listener request month. You asked for it. This is what it is. And he's dating a black woman and she's like, oh, and I'm saying that because it's super important later in the movie. Because she's like, you know, you're supposed to see my parents last night. Why won't you come meet my parents?
Starting point is 00:31:56 And like the weirdest part is like when he goes to meet her parents, it's like, your best friends with Ari Spears, you're dating a black woman, why can't you just be like, oh, I can just talk to people like they're normal people? Why does he have to wear an afro to it? Dude, he's wearing an afro. He's got like a dashiki on. He's wearing like a necklace with the continent of Africa as like the jewel piece. Like it is a, he comes into the house yelling and screaming about Angela Davis. Like it is stunning. And the thing that sucks most about that scene just caught in the middle of it all is poor Joe Morton. Oh, my God, tremoring like a fucking Terminator is in his sight.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Dude, I would rather Arnold Schwarzenegger come into my house and rip off his skin suit in front of me than have the pest over for dinner. Oh, absolutely. 100%. I mean, like, I'll be honest with you. If I saw John Likuzaamo in a big Afro-wick coming to my door trying to take my daughter out for a day, I'd start going like, huh? I would definitely drop my hand and set off the bomb.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, we got ahead of it. But that's, it just, it doesn't, like, that to me exemplifies what's wrong with this movie. It's like, dude, you hang around with black people all the time. Why is this something you're doing? Shouldn't you be trying to impress your girlfriend's parents? Because look, look, dude, we are like just. barely crossing the threshold into a feature length film here you know what i mean and it's like those detours like stopping off at the girlfriend's house for dinner is one of those things where it's like
Starting point is 00:33:40 okay we have no story here so if we add that in it's like a full-on 10-minute detour that will up that runtime like it has no like they wind up making it sort of consequential to the end of the movie but you really could have done without it all together it's also like the villain is into phony race science and the hero is into phony race science so i guess the only thing to come out of the the three card money scene that really matters is this is when there's a there's a misunderstanding because geoffrey jones is like oh yeah get me that hot specimen human flesh and he points to somebody like this like handsome like dude who's playing soccer and his weird deformed clone uh thinks that he's
Starting point is 00:34:28 pointing at Leguizamo. So Leguizamo, like the pest is selected. We still don't know, I mean, it is for hunting humans for sport, but the movie doesn't tell you that just yet. We just know that Jeffrey Jones is hunting for a specimen for some reason, and the pest is selected. Just be thankful, because originally those binoculars were trained on a KB toys. Look at all the specimens.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Oh, no, he must be talking about John Nequizamo. He must be talked about John Leguizamo. Well, no, all right, we're done hunting for human sport. Now let's hunt for dinner. It says them in like a McDonald's drive-thru. So my next note here goes right in line with the chronology of this film, and I'll just read you guys the note verbatim here. It just says, holy fucking shit, this Chinese restaurant scene.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Anyone get the name of the restaurant? Anyone get the hilarious joke there? That Wong-Foo? Yeah, because he was in Tu-Wong-Fu a couple years earlier, a much more appreciated film. Yeah. how many defeated size will I give in this episode try to count listener see what we get I'll add another one for you this this Asian hair hat he wears
Starting point is 00:35:38 I mean so it is a thing where we are to believe that he has been working as a delivery guy for this Chinese restaurant and the entire time he's been employed by them he's been pretending to be Chinese they're buying it and he's doing gibberish and then I'll throw in stuff like Me So Horny, a reference to the Vietnam War film Full Metal Jacket, totally or the two live cruise song. Yeah, I mean, you just open
Starting point is 00:36:08 the crank and let it go. Like just fucking go, John, Riff, go fucking nuts. The idea that he would have to be Chinese to deliver Chinese food just goes against everything someone from a metropolitan area would understand. You know what I mean? Like, you know, that's not just like,
Starting point is 00:36:25 well, I'll, like, The pizza guy is that a big Italian guy with the big monster guy, here's your pizza, sir. It's literally dudes from the neighborhood of any stripe. Oh, look at that. The 29 amienids. It's not the free pay up. I mean, so like the whole thing here is he's because of his like Tom Foolery
Starting point is 00:36:45 with the three card money and he gets, he gets briefly detained by the Scottish mafia does not matter. Update. That didn't matter. Well, like kind of. I guess one of the little jokes about the movie is that he's so stupid and yet he can even fool like everybody like it's not about like it's that he's fooling them that's supposed to be the joke it's like he's bugs bunny and even if him putting on something really brief and stupid
Starting point is 00:37:13 it still fools people and we just are expected to go along with it but it doesn't really work in a live action feature film yes no yeah live action cartoons rarely work but guys briefly, I want to quickly, before we get out of the Chinese restaurant, the whole my pet duck ran away. Oh, of course quacky, dude, I wasn't going anywhere. We got to talk about quacky. Thank you. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's just, and it is, it's like bugs, bunny logic because people have to like understand, like, if he gets sad, then they get sad next to him kind of a thing. That's exactly right, because his whole thing is the guy is like, all right, I'm sick and tired of you being late for your shift. Also, I'm now for whatever reason coming out
Starting point is 00:37:52 of this fog and realizing you're not even Chinese and are wearing this fucking horrendously racist disguise. Not the most racist disguise in the film though. We'll get to that one towards the end. But like, so the dude is like you're fired and the whole thing is it's just like this is like the Rift
Starting point is 00:38:08 John Riff. He's like making all these excuses for why he's late and he's like, oh my pet duck died and he like is back in the kitchen and he sees all these ducks hanging from a rack, you know and he's like you killed my duck and like you're right Steve
Starting point is 00:38:24 then the emotions that he's pretending to have like wash over these other like the chef is like arguing with the restaurant manager like oh did you murder his pet oh my and they're like feeling bad for him and like you just want to blow your brains out watch yeah yeah i would like to see like the saffty's brother's version of this movie where like eric bogosin is breaking his hand because he tried to steal like a pot of spaghetti from him somewhere well listen i think you're totally on to something there buddy because if that were the case the saffty's would at least have the common decency to shoot this fucker in the head at the end. Yeah, you got to get there, though. Even unrelated, like, Leguizama on the Safeties would be an interesting collab. That actually would be fucking great. Absolutely. This is how I win. I'm going to win now.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I'm going to be winning. Blammo. Yeah. And, like, this whole gag takes it all the way up to, like, he tricks them into, like, cooking him some of the duck, and he's, like, eating it, and why, up keeping his job because the guy's like, hey, there's no time for eating now. You have deliveries to make. And it's like, holy molly. And he went to with Jeffrey Jones's place. And this is when the guy's like, oh, I thought, I meant that big, Jeffrey Jones said,
Starting point is 00:39:41 I meant that big hunk of a man, not this little shrimp. The guy's like, well, I don't know. He's like really annoying. And he's into the Scottish mafia. You could use that against him or something. sure and so the whole set up here is geoffrey jones is saying to john like was i'm like oh you know i'll give you this like scholarship worth fifty thousand dollars uh you know you just have to sign this contract the funniest thing is like you know geoffrey jones your whole you know motivation here is you want to kidnap this guy bring him to an island and then hunt him for sport why with the track to sign it makes no sense it's just for us to get a parlor scene just to pad this run time out yes absolutely and i mean the only laugh i got was when the scottish mafia calls they call him he calls
Starting point is 00:40:32 them at the chinese restaurant or something and the guy who's playing the head scottish guy is like hey if i don't have 50,000 dollars tomorrow i'm going to kill your family and that that's an ending to this movie i could get behind like oh no all my pesting called the cause my whole family get fucking murdered like because you know what dude fuck around get hurt yes yes and he his family deserves to die he deserves to die but it's like if that if the scotch mafia was at all menacing at like even a little maybe there would be you would sense the feet under the fire that like okay this is a serious thing right but like you know because he is basically just live action bugs bunny yeah you know that like there's going to be no
Starting point is 00:41:19 for it. I think the other things, just speaking of live action Bugs Bunny and, you know, the root of that Bugs Bunny character, I firmly believe that Leguizamo thought he was doing like a Groucho Marx level performance in this movie. Because that's like, so much of this movie feels like really bad Marks Brothers, right? Because that was like the genius of the Marx Brothers was they were just like a tornado of chaos, right? But it was like witty. Funny. There was. There was, there was. there was breaks, there was timing, like that there was, this is just a fountain. It's just constantly going. Groucho Marx almost always talks in jokes and they are good. Yes, the double talk, triple talk, you know what I mean? All of the entendres, everything like that. And this is just like groucho marks for idiots. But I mean, also, I think that the Marx brothers always respected their straight men a little better than, you know, like it's just like the steamrolling of everything doesn't allow for the straight man to. And to be outraged.
Starting point is 00:42:21 They have straight men, you know, Zeppo, and like, and I forget the actress's name, but she was in a lot of their films. We need that here. We need someone to take this serious. Dude, you're totally right. This movie needed a Margaret Dumond. You're totally right. And the funny thing is, like, because Jeffrey Jones is doing this dumb-ass cartoon,
Starting point is 00:42:40 he needs to be more of the straight man, but like, it's just wacky Jeffrey Jones' terrible accent. Yeah, and I don't think he's, like, he, even Jeffrey Jones, he doesn't feel like he's here much No it's like he's just going through the motions A bit I have to say Which I mean which sucks Because I mean like again like he's really funny in Beetleju And he's such a great straight man in that
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like you know what I mean Like he's just just him like just in a chair I'm kind of laughing Even I mean even in a piece of shit Like stay tuned he's got energy Like he's really bringing it And like hunt for Red October Like it's just he's so like
Starting point is 00:43:14 Oh yes I kill him a second Oh god once coffee break huh guys Yeah he's really He's really worried because he's got like a sports car in the shop or something, and he's thinking about that. I mean, dude, all of Ferris Bueller's day off is just him getting a huge dump taken on him, and it's awesome. Yeah, and it's not even just like this is just latter day Jeffrey Jones. I mean, he's not in it a ton, but is he's in Sleepy Hollow, is that right? Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah, and he's fine. He's good, Nat. Yeah. He's good up until, and I think this is probably of the same ilk, a movie called Who's Your Caddy. Didn't I ever see that one? Mr. Caddy was a post-troubles motion. It was. It was the last one for a while. It was him with Big Boy. Not good.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I did not see it. He was in, I didn't watch it, but I saw that he was credited as being a part of that Deadwood movie in some way that came out like two years ago or something. Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't see it. He's credited on it. I don't know if it was like a flashback or whatever. He's also in a movie called 10.0 earthquake from 2014. Yeah, that checks out. Well, look, we got a money launder. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:44:18 make a movie with Jeffrey Jones and launder the money yeah that should be that's a double tip to the FBI dude uh so Jeffrey Jones is like all right you know we've selected you do this scholarship yes the horrendous parlor scene of him like trying to get him
Starting point is 00:44:34 to sign this contract he finally does because he brings up the you know 50k and the he says that you know to celebrate this contract signing uh we're going to go for a hunt on this island that I own is his whole thing. And then all of a sudden, and this was
Starting point is 00:44:52 what I realized, I was like, ooh, it's a hunting humans for sport movie. That could be interesting. Sure. Maybe. You know, but my dream was almost instantly squashed. And maybe the way to make this funny or good is
Starting point is 00:45:08 to have a bunch of people he's hunting at once. You know what I mean? Like, and especially if you want to do like bad race comedy, get like, I'm hunting a white guy, a black guy, a Spanish guy, or whatever. You know what I mean? And then go through those jokes. You're totally right. Bring the buddies, right?
Starting point is 00:45:22 You see, white guys get hunted like this. And white guys get hunted like this. It was the 90s, dude. That was, you know, that was peak stand-up comedy, I think. Definitely. Yeah, I think this movie can't really decide if it's for eight-year-olds or 15-year-olds a lot of time. Because most of the humor is eight-year-old stuff,
Starting point is 00:45:41 but all of the stuff that's actually being engaged with, only a 15-year-old or older would understand how terrible is or funny I guess that is the genius of it Chris because the eight year old will grow up with the movie and come to even love it even further and the 15 year old will also pick up the eight year old comedy that's getting put down and possibly also appreciate you know that's probably why I didn't see it I was 14 and then it came out so it's just sort of like fuck dude you were right in the middle you dodged it aging out a lot of this humor is also just like bullshit like oh we're hunting deer goose isn't deer goose a funny word let's use it 27 seven times. So that whole exchange was like what like the Jeffrey Jones says
Starting point is 00:46:23 oh we're going to hunt deer but his his dumb friend says goose and kind of steps on his line so they're like
Starting point is 00:46:28 oh dear goose and that's almost kind of like maybe a Mark's brothery and a scene if they actually had performers
Starting point is 00:46:35 that could pull it off right and instead they well because they don't it's like you know Jeffrey Jones
Starting point is 00:46:42 just has to say oh yeah a deer goose it's a native only to my island. Yeah, that'll do. So Leguizamo, you know, gets to this, like, mansion on the island, and he's locked in a room,
Starting point is 00:46:58 and we meet this guy who we're told is Jeffrey Jones's son, and the kid is putting on a really bad German accent, and he's like, yeah, my name is Himmel. And immediately, the John Leguizamo, Heil Himmel Nazi salute gag. It had to go somewhere. you know what i mean you take that one off the board you got to do it before the movie yeah i mean this is right after he was looking at the family library which includes you know the rise and fall
Starting point is 00:47:27 the third rike uh mine comf etc really really doubling down on this whole idea of nazis living off the coast of miami i mean i was stunned how hard this movie leans into all the nazi stuff like yeah talk about one terrible spice too many your rancid movie gumbo and they really push it this whole scene is just kind of Nazi jokes like the globe with the United States of Germany
Starting point is 00:47:57 on it yes guys we're being rude here we're forgetting about all the gay jokes oh I'm sorry I'm sorry well they're one and the same with this kid because he's like you know immediately the movie lets you know he's gay ha ha ha ha ha and what do they do with them immediately
Starting point is 00:48:13 is he's like he's like a sexual predator to Leguizamo. It's like putting Leguizamo in a room with like a caged bear or something. Because this kid's like attacking him immediately. And you can't have like
Starting point is 00:48:29 the moral high ground against these Nazis when you've been doing race jokes for the first hour of the movie. Not hour because it's a short movie but at least like 30, 40 minutes of just race jokes and then suddenly the Nazis are here?
Starting point is 00:48:45 Are you signing up? it's stunning i mean because you get the nazi jokes and then like a while after you know you have like that title wave of nazi related comedy uh they're in a synagogue for a fashion and you're just like man you are covering all the bases intentionally and that doesn't make it better and it doesn't make it fucking funny when we get to the synagogue eventually of course you know he does a jewish impression, but there's a Scottish guy from the mafia who is also Jewish, and that's a joke. Yep, it's like, there's not a single fucking Jew in Scotland, so how hilarious is this? Like, it's, it continues to be dumb.
Starting point is 00:49:31 So Jeffrey Jones, like, comes into this office, and this is where we see, you know, Steve already mentioned all the heads of, you know, different races of people, I guess, is the idea. And this is, this is where I was like, okay John Leguizambo maybe a step too far here maybe we've all like I actually was like maybe I should shut this off I mean
Starting point is 00:49:55 you would have been okay but you would have missed his reaction to seeing all of these mounted heads on the wall and it's like you know he's hunted all sorts of other animals you know so he's his whole thing is like yeah I've hunted all the animals in the world
Starting point is 00:50:12 so I had to move to human beings and John Leguizamo's response is to just piss his pants and you just see it and he's like, oh boy, I piss my pants isn't that hilarious? I'm dancing to my piss for the second time in this movie. He pisses all over this rug
Starting point is 00:50:27 to, I guess the fur rug of some animal that he, that Jeffrey Jones had killed when he was like nine or something. Yeah, oh yeah, because he's like, oh yeah, my rug, don't piece on my rug it ties the room together. There's some story essentially that like the only thing that makes sense is like
Starting point is 00:50:43 Jeffrey Jones, when young, was like Gerard Butler in 300, and he was sent out into the wood to beat a fucking wolf and bring it back for his fucking Nazi father. Well, that's the other thing, too. The son also in a 300 way was like Jeffrey Jones to
Starting point is 00:50:58 redo the way he was made. He stuck his son in a room with a snake, and that also, I guess, made the kid gay, is the question. Yeah, I guess now he's like obsessed with phallic imagery or whatever. But this is also like even a classic Hollywood thing of like the Nazi villain
Starting point is 00:51:16 is coded gay so I'm glad we're putting everything in this movie also beyond that even he wants to fuck these snakes he absolutely is saying shit like I want to fuck he's like getting erotic with the snakes well and that's fucking terrible too right because it's like it's the only gay character
Starting point is 00:51:32 in the movie and what does this kid do well apparently he's into beastiality also you know what I mean it's just like it's so fucking they put it a button on it several times like even when he's going through the books he's like mind Comf and there's another Nazi book and then he's like, it's like several sex books. Yes, quick and easy sex or something like that. Yeah, and stuff like I'm like, okay, good.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, that's good. That's good. Thank you. Thank you. I do, we, he is also dressed in, we can only describe the ceremonial garb at this point. I don't know what we're doing here. It's, because like this is what your ancestors would dress as. Don't you feel like a great hunter?
Starting point is 00:52:09 Also, you're half naked. Nothing weird there, man. But also, your ancestors didn't dress in Hugo Boss. Exactly. What the fuck is this shit with all your pockets? Should you just like the goss? Yeah, you should just fucking have a fur on and you're nude with a spear. I don't want to see Jeffrey Jones nude with a spear.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I'm the new Tarzan. Why is it a big deal? Leonard Nimoy gets to take pictures of fat women. I can't take my pictures. Oh, Jeffrey. So, yeah, he's dressed up. No, I will not trade photos with you. Hey, sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And by the way, stop following me to these fucking photo exhibitions. Wait, are you calling me from your house? Prank caller, prank caller. I've called you nine times. Leonard, I've got these photos, price to move. Where are those prego files, Leonard? Sorry, I got to go. Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago, is on the other line.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Oh, man, now this is what I want. I want to see Jeffrey Jones hunting Leonard Nimoy and like trying, like, you know, seeing him at an arcade and it turns out to be a different old man. Different old man with a bull cut. Oh, man. So, oh, so before we, before the hunt can get underway, we got to offend a couple more folks here because Leguizamo's like, oh, you know, you don't want to hunt me. I've got problems and just launches into this horrendous, like, I'm going to say the affliction and then act it out. And it's like, I've got a speech impediment. I've got dyslexia. I've got Tourette's. And he is just going for the gold with these impressions. He does a really bad epilepsy fit a little bit before, and it's... Oh, that's... That is in the laundry list of this shit.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You're right. He's like, yeah, you can't hunt me. I've got epilepsy. And he just starts, like, gyrating on the ground. And again, I wish I was dead. And he does, he gets like a little, what he called? They're a Derringer-esque gun. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I was kind of laughing when John Leggbizama took a shit. I'm not made a stone. I was like, all right, you know what? I just, I mean, it's like, it's a fucking candle in the wilderness at that point. It's something that I've laughed at before that I've seen. I'm like, okay, that's sort of something. It's true, Steve, because you can't even enjoy the credits because all the fucking, they repeat the scenes. You don't even have the sweet silence of the credits to soothe you after this.
Starting point is 00:55:05 You have to keep listening to it. What I love about this shit thing is like, it's like he's experiencing a shit for the first time in his life. He's like, my stomach feels funky. By the way, Pauly Shore could have also nailed this role. Speaking of funky. Get Polly Shore, I mean, to be one of the gut, like the extra people being hunted, right? Absolutely. Like, just like have it like it's street kids, it's delinquency, and he takes him to this island as like a retreat.
Starting point is 00:55:32 You got to frame it in some way. I represent the epitome of the white race. buddy yes he's with Jeffrey Jones around here like right before he takes the shit is the first very
Starting point is 00:55:48 like Jim Carrey it's like a combo of like Ace Ventura and the mask because he encounters like a huge snake and he starts fighting it and then like it eventually gets to a point where he's like you know he's got his foot over
Starting point is 00:56:04 part of it and he's holding it up and he's playing it like an upright bass. Yeah, this fucking toy that he's that is acting in this movie. And what reminded me, there's two times at least where this happens in this movie and it's very much the mask is they speed up the frame rate. So when he's fucking around this with this snake, like they make it fast and like so it's goofier.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Right. And then the same thing happens at the end when like the whole family is like being held hostage on the dock or whatever. But he's dancing. Yes, when he's doing the dancing. And it's all sped up. They rewind it, too, multiple times. It's a weird.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I mean, that's almost something. Oh, we're playing with reality of anything. I think they're trying to get to that 85-minute mark. Yeah. Every trick in the bag. So are we. So are we for show. And, you know, folks at home, we apologize.
Starting point is 00:56:57 We've got other great content on Patreon this month. No, you know what? Let's just, you know, thank Sarah, everybody. Fine, Sarah. I think I have her address here somewhere. And give her a present. Thank you for calling in for listener requests. It's not also Sarah's fault.
Starting point is 00:57:12 There's other folks that called this in. That's true. The fuck. The balls were waited. They wanted us to do this for a long time. They wanted us to do this for a very long time. It might have been better in the early days when we were completely fall down drunk recording this show.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I should, you know, I've been trying not to drink during the week. I really should have started drinking at like 3 o'clock this afternoon. No, I pregame for this. There's like a fucking football game here. I feel so stupid talking about this movie sober. Andrew doesn't drink during the week anymore. I guess we've met the next pope. Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I see some smoke over the Vatican. Steve, it's called clothes not fitting so well anymore. Oh, well, so let's get back to what the people wanted us to talk about. So he wipes his ass with a sock. Yay! Oh, but then Jeffrey Jones smells it. And he can tell where he's going from the, from the, from the, shit. Why, why is he a bloodhound
Starting point is 00:58:07 with shit? Did we mention the rocket goes off? Yeah, because, oh, so yes, the gay son has this phallic rocket launchers sticking out of his back. It's a literal red rocket. Yeah. And Jeffrey Jones is like,
Starting point is 00:58:24 oh, there he is. And then the rocket goes off and explodes, like, right in front of Leguizamo, and they think he's dead. So the kid's like, yeah, okay, he's dead. Let's go home and watch Hulk Hogan's heroes. Do you get it yet? Why would they like Hogan's heroes?
Starting point is 00:58:40 They wouldn't like Hogan's heroes. It portrays the German military, perhaps a little foolishly. Just a little bit, man. Yeah, it's like, it's almost as if the person that wrote this in three days never saw a single episode of that. What's Nazi? Hogan's Heroes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Like if it was a smarter movie, he. he'd be like, yeah, okay, he's dead. Let's go home and put on the VHS tape of Triumph of the Will. Sure, that's something. Definitely. Or Olympia, this would be an Olympia house. Yes, big time. Oh, Sinnott's list.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Refin's just so good in this. Just such a beautiful performance. I believe I'll ask a nominate. Let me watch the best parts on YouTube. Yeah, he's got the clip reel. It's just the Ray Fides cut. Dude, that has to exist. I'm not, I'm not Googling it,
Starting point is 00:59:34 but I know that exists somewhere. I bet it does, too. Oh man, the best seeds of Ray Fines, no reason. Here you go, 8chan. So they think he's dead. He goes home. They both go home, right? And, like, man, if this movie was like, oh, yep, John Likwazamo is dead.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Like, they pull a fucking Janet Lee, and you're, like, stuck with Jeffrey Jones and, like, these two other dudes. And then, like, maybe the buddies come and, find him. It would be interesting. It's infinitely better because Leguizamo's character is not in this movie anymore. That's not the case. I would wish another one of Jeffrey Jones' nemesis showed up. Howard the duck. Get Howard back. Oh, that would be great. Steve, when you said one of his nemesies, I thought you were going to say the American FBI. Is Jeffrey Jones the villain?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Isn't he of an alien in him that's the real villain? Isn't he friends with Howard? Yeah, but that he, you know, I mean, he plays the villain. There was no actual alien. Correct yourself, Stephen. I'm just letting you know. Yeah, dude. I mean, you wonder why that happens, but then you remember Chris's Howard the duck tattoo and it totally justifies him freaking out right now. I showed it to you. I sent you many picks of it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I know you did, buddy. I can't believe it was on your genitalia. Look, I, you know, I take dare seriously. Southern's don't. I do. I can't be just writing up on on the old. old tackle box there. Well, look, they said that the bill had to kind of be my dick, so I had to
Starting point is 01:01:08 you know, aim it that way. No, it's I mean, it's a good shape for it. Thank you. Well, by all means, let's keep talking about Chris's grotesque penis. Well, there's a fucking Howard the Duck tattoo on it. How else would you qualify that penis? Decorated? Adored. Not a military
Starting point is 01:01:26 veteran. See, my dick tattoo is like a tasteful, like a, like a Mark Rothko, where it's like sort of partially one color and then another pink and green over orange canvas untitled 16 yeah definitely untitled i call this the penis cathedral oh man i would take a tour through the penis cathedral see what that's all about uh oh my lord so oh so the pest like comes of course he's not dead because there is no god and uh he comes like he scares the kid a little bit and the only detail here that's important is the kid is
Starting point is 01:02:02 like, oh, here's a bottle of like animal pheromone that only makes male animals super horny. My dad used it on these on these animals and he films it. And then it's like the kid is just watching a videotape of
Starting point is 01:02:17 lions fucking and again that bestiality thing comes out because he's getting horned up watching these lions bone. Yeah. I think that's also part of the the German stereotype of being like weird into weird sex. Yeah, the shyser video.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, the stuff that, you know, American culture, which is the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, Jeffrey chose is a failed venture zoo hub. Suhub. I bought a website. How about porn zoo? I think that sounds better. Porn zoo, I think. It rolls off the tongue a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:53 We're going to need multiples of these, Eric. They're going to have to sell advertisements. So we have to have a couple of them. Don't you worry. Yes, Chris. We should definitely launch these. No, Jeffrey, I will not go in on you with the zoo hub. Also, how do you keep getting my number?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I've had to move twice, twice. So the pest and Himmel, which is the kid, are like, you know what? We both hate Jeffrey Jones. Let's get out of here. And they escape on a boat. And they both get seasick and puke all over each other for a while. That's a scene. And then it's bird shits and Himmels.
Starting point is 01:03:32 lie and then he escapes and basically swims to shore and I was like oh the movie's over oh shit I got like like fucking 35 minutes left of this piece of shit stunning absolutely stunning you have a story like this that like they leave
Starting point is 01:03:48 one place and go to an island and then literally come back to the first place for another third of the film and it's also like there's so many more like gags and disguises and like stuff that belongs in the beginning of the movie that happens towards the end like his dinner with his dinner with joe morton shouldn't be here the weird dance club
Starting point is 01:04:07 sequence with the the lame white guys also should should be again that's like you just have to put that scene earlier there's like a remnants of like this almost feels like a canon movie that escaped the grid like so like because like like that see the specifically that see the the the white guy scene versus with the music the i love rock and roll versus spank that the number one hit Rockin' the charts Spank that The first dude there
Starting point is 01:04:37 The guy who Like they first start talking The guy who's like driving the car I believe I read correctly Is the writer of this film Yeah And like And like it's very like big
Starting point is 01:04:48 The colors are big for the first time Like it's just It's really weird That all this was allowed Still I will say that that scene's almost Kind of the best scene In terms of like
Starting point is 01:04:59 I don't know making fun of like lame white culture and like the i love rock and roll is kind of getting it there i'm like i'm almost near smirking it's kind of funny but it just like like so many gags in this movie has no uh it doesn't like push the story in any direction the fact that they like defeat these guys the only thing that comes from it is they like steal their tickets to get into this private party that the club is having, right? But even that doesn't make sense because then once they're inside
Starting point is 01:05:32 there's all these other people that get in that definitely wouldn't get in, like the Scottish mafia guys, Jeffrey Jones and his fucking weird egg clone, like they all get in and I'm like then why did we have to have the dance off with the guys out front if in fact it is just easy to sneak into
Starting point is 01:05:48 this club without an invitation? Because their whole motivation is like we defeated them to get the access to the club and why are they even there to hide they're just trying to hide like oh my god let's let's hide so first they try to hide at joe morton's house we talked about that scene ad nauseum it goes on a long time but geoffrey jones shows up with a dart gun and knocks out that entire family which is pretty this is actually kind of the best scene in the movie and then when his friend tries to like break
Starting point is 01:06:18 into the house to help him out he gets instantly tranked yes this is after his penis catches on fire. We can't forget that. There's a tracking device in his penis and like it starts to overheat I suppose. Yes. Because he's eating it's a whole thing
Starting point is 01:06:39 but like the mother, the mother of the girlfriend is like, oh, we've made Cuban food for dinner and he goes into a whole thing about like why Cuban food he calls her a stupid bitch like this whole thing and then like so they're
Starting point is 01:06:55 funny movie they're eating the meal and then like the guy the little egg guy is like oh yeah oh something's happening it looks like the tracking devices overheating and it goes back to legozamo who's been eating this Cuban food and he's like sweating profusely and then like smoke just starts emanating from his crotch and he's screaming he gets naked in front of these people Martin has the best comedy lines of this scene. Like it's like, oh, he's on drugs. And then when like Leguizama's on the floor
Starting point is 01:07:27 dragging his balls and dick on the ground Like a dog. Dog with an itchy asshole. He says, that boy has syphilis. Syphilis of the ass. So, yeah, Jeffrey Jones assassinations his entire family. It's kind of funny, I guess.
Starting point is 01:07:47 He also winds up tranking his own son, too. Yes. I think the only, the great part of this whole scene, though, is Jeffrey Jones hits the pest in the face with the butt of a rifle, and it's a real
Starting point is 01:08:01 moment of like the pest getting hurt, and I was like, ooh, do it again. Oh, God, oh, hit him again. Ooh, do it. Oh, do it. But instead he jumps out of window, and you get a look at this stunt double, this John Ligizamo stunt double. Was it the guy who does the stuff for McCullochell, or
Starting point is 01:08:17 I was going to say, say he looks exactly like Charles Bronson I think before he jumps out he says you can't hit me you're oh no this is like right right after he shoots everyone in the family John Linguizamo says you can't hit me because you're just a giant big sucker butt
Starting point is 01:08:34 who nailed him pest sucker sucker sucker how does anybody come back from that you don't know right yeah you just have to give up after that right devastating they were I don't know if you can come back from being in the film The Pest, I guess anything is possible.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Tim, you've got to put me in Sleepy Hollow. I did this movie The Pest. Okay, man, but stop asking me to come over and trade photos. It would be funny if John Liguizamo actually saw the movie and he was the one who was pressuring TriStar to pull it from theaters.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Dude, I bet. He's like, my reputation cannot survive this. Please get rid of it. Oh, fuck. It's going to kill me. Oh, it's going to kill me. There's a weird thing here which also makes absolutely no sense if you think about it, right? So big picture, Jeffrey Jones and this egg clone and his son are all in Miami trying to hunt him down, right? Because, again, he still wants to trank him, take him back to the island, murder him, and cut his head off, right? That is still the goal of Jeffrey Jones.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Yet for whatever reason, Jeffrey Jones's little egg assistant calls, or no, Jeffrey Jones does, calls up Angus. the the Scottish mafia guy from the car phone and he's like hey by the way the pest is going to run off with all your money better go get him and I'm like well why would you do that if they kill him because of the money and you're ratting him out it defeats the purpose of you coming here to take him back to the island to murder him to get the head but if he gets loose his Nazi reputation is spoiled what is you're going to do after that and also you know Hitler killed so many people making phone calls so Maybe it counts for Jeffrey Jones. I think he put it on. He put a line through the four with that one. There is also a weird thing in, like, a lot of Jeffrey Jones lines where he's like, you know, once I get the pest and get his head on my wall, I'm going back to the Rhineland. Like, there's this whole thing where he's going to, like, escape America and flee back to Germany.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And I'm like, that's, again, a bad joke because they don't want you. Like, come on. That whole thing of like the Nazi's going to return back to his home base, Germany, isn't that funny? I mean, it's not funny. And it wouldn't even be funny if they said this, but like Brazil or something would be something. Because if you go, you flee to Germany, you're just going to run into a U.S. military base. That's true. Let's just get you all over again.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, get back there for a craftwork reunion concert. Like, what are you doing back in Germany? Chris Cabin, I went to a craftwork reunion concert in New York City. it was awesome. I bet. Oh, man, that's pretty cool. We're fucking concerts, man. I've never done it, sadly. They had 3D glasses and everything. I'm jealous. That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Fuck, that sounds really cool. So, again, we've got to go back to my notes, guys. I've got to read you another thing for verbatim here. Holy moly, this synagogue scene. Yes. Oh, the joke is like, where will they never look? These Nazis.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yep. And the idea is they go to a synagogue. And, like, the idea is John Legothama, if you're trying to hide, don't go on the dais, go in the back. It is the dumbest move you could make, Pest. Also, not every Jewish person is doing the fucking Hussedem curly hair and the outfit, man. Like, you don't have to be part of the orthodoxy here. You know what I mean? Like, you could just sit in a pew and shut your fucking mouth.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But that's a thing. To even, like, try to bring logic to it is insane, because the whole point is that every time he has to try to trick somebody. The whole point of every scene is that he has to get it over on somebody, even though he's the stupidest, most annoying person on the earth. I mean, and you're totally right, Chris, and I am the fool
Starting point is 01:12:29 for looking in, you know, for all these plot holes in a film like the past, but like really, man, it's the only thing keeping my fucking brain together thinking about this movie. Like, he starts the seat, like him and tubby, what, Chubby is his name?
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yes, Chubby is Ari Spears. One of the two. nicknames here. They come out, like Steve said, on the day is packed house, by the way, there's a mitzvah going on, and he announces himself to the room by screaming,
Starting point is 01:12:57 hello, Jews. Thank you, bugs. I would just love if there was, like, you know, like the one of nine people that saw this in theater was just losing his mind.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Oh, there had to be, like, at least one of those dudes was knee slapping, right? Oh, yeah. Just because, just imagine seeing the pest in theaters, right into the We Hit Movie's mailbag if you saw the Pest in Theatres.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yeah, I want to know what your mental state was like at that point what was going on in your life, what troubles were happening. What did your parents think? Even my criminal delinquent father didn't fucking bother to pilfer this movie from fucking Columbia house. Because he had taste. Didn't even bother.
Starting point is 01:13:38 He's like, I will I will go to jail for Rambo 2 on VHS. I will go to jail for the Goonies on VHS. I will not do time for the past. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Even that Robocop 3. I know. I know it's not the same. It's not the same with them there. But yes, I will even go to jail for that. I would have killed to watch Robocop 3 today. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yeah. Oh, that's something. Maybe we should do that as an episode. We have supposed to do twice in fucking Detroit. We still might, ladies and gentlemen, I mean. I forgot that that shit was supposed to exist. You know what?
Starting point is 01:14:16 Before the calendar strikes, the clock strikes midnight on this year, maybe we will have gone to Detroit to do that show, but we'll see. Maybe. Maybe not. You're just going to, you know, follow us on Twitter at WHM podcast for tour updates, if ever. That's the best way to stay up to the minute with what we're doing, whether I'm high taking pictures of my TV or we're announcing new tour dates. That's where to find us, man, on Twitter. You got to check out the TV picks. We're kind of all getting into it. These days, it's excellent. Love a good TV pick session, man. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:14:52 How else will people know what I'm watching? The TV's the only person I've ever talked to this entire year, face to face. Jeffrey, I do not want picks of your TV either. What on earth? But Lenny, look what I was watching. It's kind of funny, right? Because I was in Stay tuned. Do you get it, Leonard?
Starting point is 01:15:11 I am not familiar with the film, no. You know, we're not so different, you and I. We're both perverts of different kinds. You are a legend for being part of the show Star Trek. I was once kicked out of a Star Trek audition. You are a pervert. I am a criminal pervert. Let me be clear here.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I just appreciate people of different sizes. You appreciate children and as I can understand it, animals now too. I'm looking really quickly to see if he maybe guessed it on any Star Trek because it seems like a thing where he could have been on next geng here. Yeah, no, because he had some heat in the 80s. He wouldn't have been on next gen. You know, Amadeus. You know what he did though is in stay tuned. He does a Star Trek rip. That's right. maybe that's what I'm thinking of Christ all right he had the heat in the 80s that he had a lot of heat in the late 90s um not the good kind it was that house guest that did it for me dude look at his uh his 1999 was pretty big ravenous sleepy hollow and stewart little oh man is so good yeah oh you know what he's
Starting point is 01:16:39 definitely in a total stay tuned heartbreakers from 2001 with a hackman sigourney Weaver and Jennifer Leeuitt there. Saw that in the theaters. Never saw it actually. It sucks. My mother has seen that movie more than any other movie
Starting point is 01:16:54 that's ever existed. Wow. What? Heartbreakers? Get out of town. She loves that movie. I don't know why, but I've watched that movie
Starting point is 01:17:01 with her at least four times. I'm curious who's, if your mom has seen, Heartbreakers more than my mom has seen Twister, because that is something. I don't know. She really thinks Gene Hackman is hilarious coughing.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And I'm wondering if she saw more than my mom saw cruising. You know what? I just let's talk about what our moms are into these days. My mom, well, talking about like this time period of this movie came out, and I think she still kind of does, but my mom, big Harrison Ford fan. Oh. A lot of VHS tapes of Harrison Ford
Starting point is 01:17:33 in the house, including random hearts. Nice. Yeah, we had six days, seven nights on DVD. I just watched Frantic recently. Pretty good. Pretty good. Frantic fucking rules, man. good choice for you not good choice for us the past yeah uh yeah so whatever he offends a whole synagogue full of people you go to the dance club next we talked about the white guys we should talk about that it's like oh it's a karaoke dance club which also it wouldn't be exclusive
Starting point is 01:18:02 of this fucking doing karaoke yeah i don't get what's going on here because like the club it's like club paris or something like that and yeah then all of a sudden there's just this dumbass karaoke lounge inside it also whatever set this is it's it's clearly not a club this is like someone's nice house somewhere like didn't you guys get a very like domestic vibe from this club until you get to the carry the karaoke room it's a different thing but like when they're sneaking around he's like sneaking on the staircase and he sees the two scottish guys and everything i was like this just looks like someone's big drug dealer i was not paying attention at that time excellent no you know there is a great thing though there's when they watch
Starting point is 01:18:44 right into the club. There's an extra that walks by them. Hilariously huge, like big tall Johnny Swade haircut. Oh, wow. Maybe it could have been Brad Pitt. I will say with the Jim Carrey stuff, this does definitely have the club from the mask feel.
Starting point is 01:19:00 But it's, like you say, it's the, it's karaoke. And like, it seems like it's like, like, you have to get, like, it's a speakeasy karaoke, like it's a secret place that you have to get into. Right. Yeah, that's a good call. I don't know what this is You know what? The Masters would not stand for this.
Starting point is 01:19:17 No, they're not going to take anybody that comes out of this kind of place. I'm sorry. They're just not going to look at you. Back to the karaoke masters here and there was a big disaster actually, some fraudulent participation where we are loathe to report to you here. But turns out that Japanese businessman that was performing in the karaoke masters was actually John Leguizama. Oh, yes, he's going to be banned from the Masters for All Time for Asian face, which, um, let it be, let it be known that if there is an actual uny wasabi that would like to compete that they are welcome to. And this, this, this, this person was not uni wasabi. Dude, uni wasabi can we just already. That, no, that being said, though, that being said, I've never heard a better Jeremy. he has really spoken tonight despite being a fraudulent entry under the name uni wasabi i think
Starting point is 01:20:16 we got to give him a few few points there uh he's still banned for life um Jeffrey jones is a line that's like I had the pleasure of hunting uni wasabi and you are no uni wasabi because we're going to do a Lloyd Benson fucking joke right now oh wow you're right I do love so you do does a bad karaoke thing and it's a bad everything and he's like he's dressed like a japanese guy's got silly glasses and my favorite part is he throws the uh the pheromone on to geoffrey jones and all these dudes start to hump him and it's just like if this movie ends with geoffrey jones getting fuck to death at a dance club two stars two stars yeah oh one and a half man it's still the pet yeah this is like John Ligazmo in a boat with a big cigar yeah he just got fucked to death all right anyways well that's the movie good night everybody
Starting point is 01:21:20 see you for the past two there was nothing left okay he was fucked to dust okay three stars if I get that scene specifically then I get three stars all right yeah it has that little button on the end of it sure oh my god
Starting point is 01:21:38 So, like, while the Fairmone's joke is playing for no one, this dude, Angus nabs the pest. And they throw him into the, it's all three of the guys now. He throws them all into the car. And he's like, all right, look, I'll have your money tomorrow. And to put up collateral, eh, here's Freddie Rodriguez. He's not in this movie anyway. I mean, like, sacrifices his friend to the mafia. That's kind of shitty.
Starting point is 01:22:05 No, look, you're going to be in Carey way soon anyway. Don't worry about it. Wasn't that the same year as this? I think these were both 97. I thought that was 98, but I might be wrong. Ooh, I think you might be right, actually. Never mind. But yeah, so it's right around the corner.
Starting point is 01:22:18 And the funny thing is, when you think about what Freddie Rodriguez is doing in that movie, I think it's kind of a little bit of a pest impression. Yeah, it's just like very similar. This is obviously his thing. It's like high energy, which he changed later. Like, I'm crazy, wacky, whoopadoo, kind of a dude. Well, yeah, you can six feet under, and you can't do that. It's six feet under.
Starting point is 01:22:37 well you could but it wouldn't work that's a show I have absolutely no desire to rewatch ever in my life yeah you don't really do you too I bet it wouldn't hold up either it would feel like very late 90s
Starting point is 01:22:51 early odds like prestige television but bad I have found that there is no good in going back to look at what Alan Ball has done American Beauty it didn't turn out great going back to that
Starting point is 01:23:02 it didn't turn out great going back to six feet under when I tried and, uh, what is, isn't he true blood as well? True blood was him. I'm not going back to that period, so fuck you. I guarantee you it's not worth it. Although, aren't they like rebooting it or something I read?
Starting point is 01:23:17 Who's going to say sooky now? Suck it. That's all I know about the show. Sucker. I checked out of that show. I watched it for a while, actually, but I checked out when they were like, oh, Anna Pachwin, you're like a magical fairy person and I was like, good night. this movie sort of ends like the usual suspect on a boat like it's not like I don't know
Starting point is 01:23:40 because like his whatever whatever his family gets kidnapped by Jeffrey Jones after he's not fucked to death he's just fucked to completion and um he kidnapped his whole family I'm gonna kill your whole family again I'm kind of laughing uh you got to come here and save them or offer your own life right in aries spears wear camouflage which is like white black camouflage which was the style at the time by the it's a weird cartoon thing too because it's like where did they get those clothes when uh when they get on the boat and he and ari spears like sneak into one area there's like a bunch of weapons everywhere and they're like looking at all these cool you know weapons and he's like now we now it's
Starting point is 01:24:22 our time to shine chubs or whatever and then there's a there's a abysmal don't ask don't tell joke right here where like chubby's like hey don't ask don't tell joke right here where like chubby's like hey don't hell like I think about them using the weapons and then the pest is like wait what did you say and he's like uh never mind and he's like yeah that's what I thought and I'm like
Starting point is 01:24:47 you know maybe this movie could have been 84 maybe this could have been a short an HBO special short yeah exactly 20 minutes and I'm out so yeah it's a boat they're inside a boat
Starting point is 01:25:04 Steve, but it also, I don't know if we're filming on the inside of a boat because it definitely also looks like your standard 1990s Terminator factory. Yes, for sure. And when does he get a machine, so he gets a machine gun and he's like, I've got you now kind of a thing, right?
Starting point is 01:25:19 There is a, I've got, I need. Yeah, a defeated, I've got you now. I need teepee for my bunghole. Oh, right. There's like this whole prank because he's got like the walkie-talkie in different positions around the Terminator factory boat. it's multiple times
Starting point is 01:25:36 this is the last time it happens but there is a time earlier in the film we're definitely doing Beavis and Butthead impressions outside the club they do the Beavis and Butthead laughs yes that's what it is and then yeah this is him just doing Beavis doing a Cornholio joke you know what leave that to the pros
Starting point is 01:25:52 fellas Bugs Bunny not Beavis and Butthead don't get your cartoons mixed up too totally dude pick one cartoon motif and stick to it and this is where we really get the Bugs Bunny because he you know he's walking around the ship like Elmer Fudd and suddenly John Leggozama's
Starting point is 01:26:06 walking behind him like toying with him he puts his gun he puts a gun down a pipe and it comes up and shoots it in his ass he throws a little black circle on the wall
Starting point is 01:26:20 and a fucking train runs through it and hits him everybody gets he yes exactly so yeah he gets the drop on Jeffrey Jones right here
Starting point is 01:26:33 And then Jeffrey Jones, like the cheapest garbage thing, right? He's like, you know, oh, well, actually, Pest, you don't have the drop on me because I definitely poisoned you a while back and you have four seconds to live. And this is where he does the, if I was poison, can I do this? And it starts all the like mask dancing and like this family, this family is sitting behind him watching him do this like, man, I should have just stuck to community theater. I know. They were filming this movie in Miami. I wanted to give it a shot, be in a motion picture. And now I'm sitting at a cold dock at 2.30 in the morning watching John Leguizamo dance. God damn it. And Leonard Nimoy won't talk to me anymore because I worked with Jeffrey Jones. Oh, wait. I was about to star in this community theater production of Our Town in Miami. But what was that? You associated with Jeffrey Jones in a motion picture, you say. Good day. we are
Starting point is 01:27:34 the Mozart Solieri of sleazy pictures get that perverted shudderbug out of my life
Starting point is 01:27:43 I would love to work with you Matthew Broderick but I have a steadfast rule with Jeffrey Johns
Starting point is 01:27:49 they cannot be trusted he's right he's right he's right he's right yeah so like
Starting point is 01:28:00 he doesn't get poisoned like Jeffrey Jones, like, well, I'm not going to give you the money anyway. So goodbye. And it's like, all right, that could be the end of the movie. Yeah, that'd be nice. Dude, right here, verbatim, let's get back to the not pad. How is this movie not over? And it's because Jeffrey Jones has to have a scene where he goes to like this bank and he's going to empty out like the safe deposit box because he is still planning on fleeing to Germany. Just like it's side man. Yes, exactly this is what gave me the thought and also like what the fuck is with that that moment there because like didn't you want the head wasn't that kind of the whole fucking point i think at this point dude he's like you know what screw this it is no human head hunting is worth this trouble i will try again in a year or something
Starting point is 01:28:49 um because also i think he's probably thinking to himself like well gee you know if i get the pest now and i mount his head on my wall then I'm just reminded of the antics that this man put me through I don't want that and again his reputation to the Nazi community is just shot after this
Starting point is 01:29:09 I mean he's been made fun of quite publicly anybody catches the line reading of this bank teller that he talks to because he's like he's like
Starting point is 01:29:22 you know oh I need to see Lockbox 428 or like whatever it is there's just this actress who's like of course Mr. Jack, the guard will let you in. It's like, the delivery is like
Starting point is 01:29:33 if you watched it typed out on like a tweet or something, it would be when people do like uppercase, lowercase, uppercase, lowercase, like just like a wacky ass terrible line delivery that you just really should have been like, you know what, just you pretty much got it, but just let's do it one more time
Starting point is 01:29:49 just for safety. And they didn't and then this is the line reading this poor woman has. Like it's awful. And his lockbox is empty. And then It's because the pest has portrayed the German ambassador and gets him arrested. Like what is even this? Did the German ambassador to the United States be in Miami that afternoon?
Starting point is 01:30:15 And he says something, something like he's like pick up the phone. He's like taunting him. He's like, and you know what? There's a lot more than $50,000 in there. And now I'm rich. And I'm like, good. So I can never see you again. Please go away.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I mean, he looks like, I mean, he looks like his character from Moulin Rouge. He does, yeah, he does. For some reason, I don't get this. It's the mustache, dude. I think that's exactly what it is. No, this screams German to me. It definitely does. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:30:41 He's also walking on his knees at the end of this movie. But yeah, he gets in, you know, Chubby's Jeep and they all drive off. Of course, his lady friend is there. Malaria, the friend, I think, is also there. Is there a babe for every dude at the end here? I couldn't really figure out who was cramming into this car. No, I think it's just them. Oh, no, it's the three friends.
Starting point is 01:31:06 It's Pest, Freddie Rodriguez's character, Chubby, the lady friend, just the one, his girlfriend, pest girlfriend, because then the guy driving the car is Himmel. Himmell's like, oh, cool, because Himmel kind of has an awakening in Miami, right? Because he's like, oh, look, like, I'm here. here like in Miami. I'm not under the thumb of my father. I can be gay. This is great. So the end of the movie is Himmel, you know, dressed like it. He's living his best life dressed as like a Miami Beachbum kind of guy and not like his Nazi costume anymore. I think he's got a parrot
Starting point is 01:31:44 Oakley's on. He's doing great. That's good. I miss that at the end of this movie. So did I. It's kind of like the what like I saw that and was like, all right, cool. That guy now gets to live out his days being a happy gay kid in Miami and not with his Nazi father anymore. So that's the only good thing to come of this movie like narratively from the characters. It's really a humble story. He's the character that changes Eric. Yeah. I mean he's the one that's been literally held hostage his entire life. The pest has been
Starting point is 01:32:13 fucking farting on everyone he sees. Speaking of farting, the movie closes just as it opened. We get back to the shower singing and he's just farting and doing Dracula and doing the Chinese dance. Yes. It's a straight repeat. Yes. It's the same thing. It's the same footage, right? It's just
Starting point is 01:32:34 the same. They just dumped it at the end of it. God. Damn it. Couldn't just give me like, it's just blackness and white text. That's all I wanted after this fucking assault. Like, just, it's over. How at this point, like you've had him doing this garbage
Starting point is 01:32:51 Bugs Bunny Groucho thing this whole time. How do you not really just put the final nail in the coffin and have him do with that's all folks yeah why not I mean like come on they could have you know it leans into it heavily but if they leaned into it even more
Starting point is 01:33:06 it would make more sense you know so I'm not gonna ask you if you would recommend this movie I like what a fucking pointless thing to say I will give you a little a tidbit how I watch movies is
Starting point is 01:33:23 ooh juicy I will rent like when something is really ranted and I can see it coming because you know I rent a lot of movies from either from Amazon from most part for this show because it's just easier I will rent from voodoo so this doesn't fuck up my uh my algorithm it's like you know it's kind of like it's almost like a private browsing tab kind of just to let you know that's really great dude I should do that because I totally fucked up my Apple algorithm putting this movie in there You need little places to stash. Like, I mean, Lord knows that the good folks at Voodoo think of me, but I don't care.
Starting point is 01:34:00 He's just another one of our damned souls here at Vulu. Oh, no, fuck, Voodoo. I think they're a Walmart company. They are. I remember what I saw Voodo. I was like, oh, cool. Finally, I don't have to give money to fucking Amazon. And it's like, oh, it's Walmart.
Starting point is 01:34:13 That sucks, too. Anyways, no thank you for me. That's a no. This is a blight. You know, I'm going to call something here really quick. I wouldn't be shocked if I leave this world and John Legu Zama has an Oscar and I just I can see him like being a villain or something
Starting point is 01:34:29 or doing some drama that's really good because I think he's a very good actor and has a real presence and this is not that and he should have never done this movie and it's a blight Yeah I mean I think you're right because that's the thing that's like really difficult
Starting point is 01:34:45 about this movie right? It's like I've known about it for years while also liking John Leguizamo for years and I've sort of known that I don't want to, like, tarnish my like of John Leguizamo for watching this movie that I have successfully avoided right up until yesterday evening. And I think he's great. I think he's a great actor. I do think he's funny.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Like, obviously, he can do comedy. I do think he's a good dramatic actor. And I want to just point out, I feel like what I, we should do maybe, is, like, say a nice John Leguizamo performance. Right? So him as Jacob Vasquez in Waco, he's great. I think he's really great on that show, honestly. It's a good dramatic performance. It's a small role, but him and John Wick, I think is good.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's another one. I mean, I really do. Like, I think he's fun. I think he can deliver a line. It's this kind of humor. I just don't think he was made out for.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I think it was an attempt to make bigger what his one man shows in. It just, it wasn't working on this or house a buggin. And like, I do. I love him. Benny Blanco and Carlito's way. He's so fucking good. He's in this movie from 92, 93 called Hang with the Homeboys. It's a little hard to find, but it's very good if you can find it.
Starting point is 01:36:03 He's, yeah, he's been great for a while. I just can't believe that you guys have never seen this movie because I, this is not even a joke. Literally, whenever you say John Leguizamo, I think of this movie. I saw this movie as a kid. This informed everything I know about John Leguizamo. so I was never like I never you know sought out his movies but when I did see him and stuff he I did see that he was good but when I think John Leggo Zambo I think the past and I have since the late 90s that's a bummer man I mean how about this dude can you switch that over to like
Starting point is 01:36:40 super Mario brothers I guess I guess I think it's just like this was burned into my mind as a child because it's so awful. I mean, the poster certainly is. I mean, I have seen this poster for years, literally decades at this point, and just been like every time like, nope, until today. So thank you for writing in. Was it Sarah?
Starting point is 01:37:03 It's Sarah from New Jersey. Thank you. Sarah from Jersey. Thank you for, you know what, Sarah? You help me get a title off my bucket list here. And in this instance, I mean, bucket list as in I watch the film, and now I wish I kicked the bucket. great episodes, you know, previously on our catalog here on the free feed. And the,
Starting point is 01:37:22 the Patreon feed this month, we're going to have good fellows. I promise it'll be a good episode. Absolutely. Um, yeah, this is, this is the first of, uh, what do we say? There's five Tuesdays in, uh, in this month of March. So we got a lot of stuff coming down the pike. Yes, Eric mentioned our WLM episode on, on our Patreon about Martin Scorsese's good fellas um and then of course you requested nexus episodes what did we draw there for uh animation damnation steve we drew another transformers episode uh something right something called uh carnage in c minor so there's a musical transformer also we should say uh what we didn't draw for our uh listen request month was our new ten dollar tier the walsh uh we will have another episode of melro 210
Starting point is 01:38:10 but not only that we will have the snider sessions which is going to be somehow our reaction to the Zach Snyder cut of Justice League it's going to be more than one episode FYI yes yes unsure what it's going to look like but yes Justice League the Snyder sessions a we hate movie special presentation
Starting point is 01:38:30 coming to this Patreon tier the Walsh sometime later this month because the thing air is what the 18 yeah it'll be like you know it's got to give us some time there guys but it'll be in the month of March for sure and I'm going to rewatch the original Justice I'm going to put myself through that just to compare and contrast. So, yeah, it's going to be
Starting point is 01:38:48 worth it for my torture at least. You're a little pain pig. I am indeed. If you folks at home want to do something similar, of course, we do have the Justice League commentary on our Patreon that you could sync up and rewatch to that theatrical cut. So if you're like a pain pig, but
Starting point is 01:39:06 you like to laugh. From comic, I'll be. Totally. But yes, that is the pest from 97, directed by Paul Miller, go back to award shows forever. I think this is the only future film he's directed. He's still alive. He's still directing the CMAs and all that horse shit. This was the only movie.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Not surprising. But Steve Zadak, as always here on We Hate Movies, the show rolls on next week, a brand new episode. Also, requested by one of our listeners. So what will we be talking about then? The shit keeps rolling downhill. It's Warriors of Virtue. this is the kangaroo fighter I never saw this but it has to be better
Starting point is 01:39:48 I'm kind of into it I mean at least it's got like a concept that I can sink my teeth into a little bit they just always I mean I haven't seen it but they always kind of just appeared to be like the ninja turtles but they were kangaroos Teenage mutant kangaroos That's it that's all it is I'm totally down for that and I think Eric you just reminded me too I'm saying it for me personally and you know
Starting point is 01:40:10 you guys can feel however you want but now welcome to the top of the shelf the pest this is i believe the worst film i've watched for this show i would co-sign that because at least ultraviolet which we had a lot of trouble with one request month ago that at least had some visual stimuli of some kind it's just like one it's a series of bad race jokes and i i'll close sign as well I think. Yeah, yeah. Go send that. Ooh, excellent. Nice. So we're all in agreement. This is the fucking worst thing ever. Excellent work, everybody.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Oh, boy. Well, that is it. That's the pest. Now we've got to go prep for next week's debauchery. So until next week, we're talking about Warriors of Virtue. I'm Andrew Juppin. Stephen Sadek. Eric Siski. Chris Gavin. Take it easy. That was a hit gum podcast.

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