We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 535 - Warriors of Virtue
Episode Date: March 9, 2021On this week's episode, the 2021 Listener Request Month rolls on as the guys tackle the baffling family fantasy adventure, Warriors of Virtue! How gross are those kangaroo lips? Why don't these creatu...res have personalities? And can someone keep this kid out of that restaurant? PLUS: Find out why you shouldn't get wrapped up with artistic doctors! Warriors of Virtue stars Mario Yedidia, Angus Macfadyen, Marley Shelton, Chao Li Chi, Doug Jones, Tom Towles, Lee Arenberg, and Dennis Dun; directed by Ronny Yu. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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this week on the program. Are you fucking serious? It's Warriors of Virtue. I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin. And we hate movies.
Hello, everyone, welcome to we hate movies.
Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. Listener request month continues to fuck our faces.
We are talking. Warriors of Virtue from 1997 directed by Ronnie Yu, who we've covered his
filmography on the show before. He's the director of Bride of Chuckie, Freddie versus Jason,
stay tuned Formula 51. And then actually a good movie, Fearless with Jet Lee.
Bride with white hair is good, too.
Yeah, I should say this Warriors of Virtue was his first film made, first English language film,
first Hollywood film and yeah he did make a ton of like Hong Kong fantasy films before this
that I have not seen this is the one no fewer than four people called it in this year but
people calling in every single year and many calls were like well just making my yearly call
for Warriors of Virtual like you know what dude leave me alone yeah like literally from the inaugural
one I remember getting a call about this fucking movie well I'm on their side with this one
a little bit. I mean, this is going to be
something to come through, but
it's a rich tapestry. It's
a wonderful world we're transported
to. It is absolutely not the past.
I will give it that. And I will say
we are currently
one for one with apology emails.
That very nice lady emailed us to
apologize, which was unnecessary. We had
a lot of fun. Yeah, I will say
though, another
thing here to knock. I saw
somebody having the time of their life on social media because I think they were like
upset as like a closeted pest fan because they were like oh they think the pest is bad
wait till they get to warriors of virtue nope sorry this movie this movie sucks a dog's dick
but it is nowhere near the pest thank you very much yeah this movie sucks a dog's dick but
it was a nice dog yes yeah just like that lady and that bobcat goldweight movie
Oh, yeah, what was that?
Sleeping Dogs Lie?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like to say movie titles going,
oh, is it?
It's actually not too bad of a movie,
but, you know, she gets into some hot soup.
I remember liking it, yeah.
Hey, let's listen to this fucking call real quick
so then we can keep slamming on this kangaroo movie.
Sure.
Hi, this is Ryan from Indiana,
and I'm requesting Warriors of Virtue.
you can find it on
Tobey television
This guy knows what's up
Yep
And if you pick this one
I apologize
But I think it'll be fun
Thanks
First of all
Why not
Why call it something
That you have to apologize for
Don't bother
Hey man don't bother
No thank you Ryan
Thank you Ryan
Well because they enjoy
Our torment a little bit
It's fine for sure
Yeah so it's cool
We're having fun
I mean you know
To be fair
This movie is
ridiculous. It's, it's, it shouldn't have been made. And we're gonna have fun talking about
the kangaroo. It is pretty fascinating to, I mean, look, first of all, this movie, uh, I read
Roger Ebert's review. He's like, you know what? It's, he gave it two stars, which is amazing to me.
God damn it. God. You know what? That guy, total legend, but sometimes you just fucking got it
wrong, Raj. I mean, like, and he's like, you know, bad movie, this and that. Looks good, though.
I'm like, Raj, did you get, did you miss your fucking eye appointment, dude? Like,
What's going on?
It looks like shit.
These fucking effects that they're putting all over the frames.
Get out of here.
I cannot turn down a movie with a bruised kangaroo face.
I just can't turn it down.
I mean, the costumes of the kangaroo men are all right.
I think it's on par.
Maybe not on par with Tank Girl, but almost there.
Could we get a light on something?
Could we get a fucking lamp?
No, you can't.
No, you can't.
Because, Steve, the second, those.
light levels go just a little bit higher than they should be, you can see how much
shittier it looks than it already looks. Like it looks shitty. This movie looks shitty. If you turn
the lights on even more, it looks way shittier, dude. And they were like, listen, this is as bright
as it can get. They can't see what we're trying to fucking do here. It's vampire rules. If
you put too much light on it, I think just burst into flames. That makes sense. Because it's
so cheaply made. We should say, speaking of a, you know, the fact that this movie never should have been
made. It's based on characters that
were created by
the Law Brothers
who were four
Chinese American brothers
who were indeed practicing
doctors, proving once
again that non
creative people should not create.
You know what I mean? Like we got into the situation with
Easy Rider 2, right? That dude
was just a fucking rich lawyer. This is
the same shit. Stay out of it. I'm not
going to go in for a blanket statement on the fact
but I will say that I watched
a 15 minute behind the scenes
a featurette
about this movie
and they do
they interview two of them
and like the guy is like
yeah you know actually it's
harder to be make a movie
than be a surgeon you know it really
is because if you're in a
surgery you control
everything in a movie set forget about it
I mean in one situation
you control someone's life
and the other thing somebody might not
money their laundry the right way
I mean, it's just, it's insane what could happen.
I agree with this, this gentleman.
I think surgery, whatever, human life.
Sure.
This is more important.
You live forever through this magical adventure of kangaroo.
And this movie will exist for all time.
That's right.
And there are five people roaming this earth who played them
motherfucking kangaroos and have to admit that for the rest of their lives.
And that's horrible.
You're totally right.
That's horrible.
Scientifically accurate, by the way, this movie,
100%. You just said a
learned doctor family created
this, so I assume that this
is very sound. I mean, if you're an MD
that means you're a total genius and you're
good at everything. So just go for it. Right
movies. You know, just go to your car
mechanic, tell him what to do.
By the way, putting MD
in your fucking credits
on your movies and fuck you.
It's an asshole move. It is an asshole
move. Terrible. You show up.
Just put your name
on it. Just put your fucking name on the movie.
to start introducing myself as Eric Siska,
Bachelor of Arts, Cinema Studies.
Oh, well, part B.
Right, obviously, the unemployment office.
It's one thing, right,
when it's like an entertainment industry-specific union, right?
If someone's part of the PGA,
someone's part of a cinematographer's guild,
you know, editors guilds, whatever,
that's the industry.
If you're a fucking doctor or a goddamn dentist
or a fucking ice cream,
truck driver that credit does not go on your movie credit should you get one oh man that
Dennis K law wrote a fucking shitty movie um that's doctor Dennis K law please
they're doing this all backwards because as a doctor you should know that
you whatever your kid does you just pump a bunch of money to that your kid could be the
film director that's the usual progression you got to have a family wealth first I would
just love it if like you also like older actors like were able to put like their
Elks Lodge number at the end of their names and stuff like that that would be nice
like the Taoist stuff like I understand like why why they wanted to put that in this movie
but I mean at the same time like this is clearly just a cynical like I watched my kid
watch that fucking Power Ranger crap I could do that I don't know five kangaroos in a forest
give me a million bucks and someone did it someone literally did it
uh okay and yeah i just uh watched the early pressin of this movie called velvet gold mine we're gonna have a villain that looks like an opening act from that movie
dude he's what is happening with angus mcfadden in this movie he's coded a certain way yes he definitely is
yeah he he definitely is and it's just like he's like high constantly like this this performance is like he's high and coming the whole time
There's only one other performance I could really think of, and that is Eddie Redmayne in Jupiter ascending.
Yes.
It is almost identical.
It's really wild.
You know, it's kind of close, and it's hard to gauge because it's a much smaller role.
And I don't think it's entirely the same, but, oh, what's his face in Tron Legacy?
Michael.
Shannon.
No.
Michael Sheen.
Sheen.
Yes, Michael Sheen, playing the ridiculous, like, club owner.
in that movie and he's like dancing all over the place like it also reminded me of that a little
it's a lot i mean we could start with the so we we open on uh a completely ponderous opening
scene narration thing which is master chung is this gentleman's name right uh what what what are you
talk about no it isn't what it's martha wayne those uh those pearls do drop the christmas point
no because
oh wow it took me a real long time to get there
cabin sorry I'm tired
but you know like
it's just like I remember once
there wasn't war and then maybe one day
there will be war and eventually
war will come to war town
there's one line that was very
very of our time now which is
and now I see a dying land
and the enemy grows stronger every day
and I'm like yep you're telling me
is there someone with the courage to step
forward. That's the last line of it. And as soon as that line finished, I was like,
the fuck was that guy talking about? Who was that man? It's like, I don't know. It's like a bunch
of like garbage visuals and then this terrible kangaroo logo. Well, because like you see
these, uh, whatever, they're beads obviously like for prayer beads or something. And they,
they draw, they might be anal beads. They fall to the floor and I'm like, were they talking? Like,
you don't like, I don't know. I want to see a man if a man is talking.
even just like a silhouette
would be great a fucking
a Hitchcockian silhouette
You see a hand
Maybe it's like making a little like face
And like talking through the hand
They do repeat the shot later in the film
I think it might be Master Chung
Where it's like there's a figure in silhouette
Like looking up at what appears to be the Aurora Borealis
I don't know
Man it looked like something you'd put on a poster
like to you know one of those
garbage things you'd see in a classroom that's like
reading is great and it's like a
kid just staring up at a tree for some reason
it just looked like one of those garbage
posters we cut to suburbia
my favorite thing which I only
because I watched a little bit because again like
I think I said this off the air like the second
I watched this movie last night it all
escaped from my brain I don't remember a fucking
thing it's like sand
it's like beautiful sand
that goes right down the drain
but that proves that proves the
magical realm is real.
And it's just a racing
because it's trying to keep itself a secret.
So I rewatched like the first
40 minutes just right before we did this.
Because you love this movie.
I caught this mother telling
her son to make sure,
telling this dog to make sure that her son
eats breakfast. Oh,
come on. She's like, come on,
Bravo. Okay. All right.
Make sure Ryan eats his breakfast, Bravo.
Bye. This woman doesn't care if this kid lives or
dies. No. Also, it must
dinner, Steve, because this is one of the dumbest
I hate these tropes where it's like
I'm such a bad cook,
I screwed up microwaving
and he's like, because he's trying to eat like a lasagna.
Well, at the beginning of the dog
brings him toast while he's reading that awful
comic book. Oh, yes, dude.
Oh, wow, okay.
He is straight up like taking a dirty
ass shit or something on this time.
Oh, that's right. He's seated.
Our hero is shown
shitting his guts out, reading
the comic book, and so entranced with
you even hear like the sounds of the swords and whatever else that's coming out of this comic
book i'm going to tell you some i'm good i'm going to tell you something here eric that lid was
down he wasn't shit his guts out that was getting ready to pound his pud to this comic
that to the right cabin i noticed that seat was down that kid was getting ready to jerk off
maybe he's making a fucking feces pancake he's doing some he's about to do some of his own
little some of his own sword wielding yeah this kid loves it both
kid gets really aroused by unfinished comics.
This thing is like not even inked.
There's no word bubbles.
It's just like sketches.
It's garbage because it's like you see at one point like there's a pile of comic books.
And like I think they're supposed to be different comic books.
But because they're all just like very like quick pen sketches,
it doesn't matter.
Although in one of them I was pretty sure I saw a kangaroo or two.
Oh.
Yeah.
A little foreshadowing.
Yeah, just a little bit.
Well, this kid makes this little shit pancake.
Yeah.
These actually are not sold in stores.
It's the man who lives up the road by himself.
He makes them and he just gives him to me.
I enjoy them very much.
Hey, Ryan, I got a new issue for you.
Yeah, this one's got kangaroos.
All right, the next one, you've got to kill your parents and give me their money.
but yeah you're totally right steve it is the morning because i guess instead of going to school
or something this kid just goes and hangs out at this chinese restaurant that i think is owned by
dennis dunn the guy from like big trouble and he's in prince of darkness also he's playing
ming in this movie he has a boss there's a guy who comes in at some point yeah he he starts
yelling at him i think he's just and he even ryan says oh you're just a cook so i think he just works there
and sleeps above it, which is also...
Very weird.
What is this relationship?
Not great. That's what it is.
It's pushing it.
That's what that relationship is.
You see him making the...
It was pretty cool.
He's doing like kung fu making Chinese food, which is fun.
Kung fu cooking.
Kung fu cooking.
But the way he treats these eggs, man, you're going to break that yolk.
You're going to break that yolk door out across the room.
Yeah, don't appreciate that.
well that's just because you just don't know control yet
that's true you don't have his you know abilities
so is the idea that this guy
now he passes on what we come to find
the manuscript of legend um
to this kid is did he go to the kangaroo land
when he was younger is that the idea
I don't that's a great question I mean I don't even know
because the kangaroo land like doesn't even exist
question mark yeah that's true
I don't know what we're supposed to believe here
at the end of the day. I think Ming is the first guy
who, because yet, wait, because the name of the restaurant is Ming's, right?
Yes. That's what I was saying. That's why he owned the restaurant.
Yeah, that's very strange. Maybe it's his dad. I don't know.
Yeah, that's possible. Because the mom, after she fucks up this lasagna,
is like, well, just give you some money and you can go to MINS.
And he goes like, it's Mings. It's called Mings, you fucking racist
real estate agent.
I've never seen somebody so angry
at a mispronunciation in my
life. Well, he's very... But it's good.
That should happen.
That's true. This mother is pretty
fast and loose with these pronunciations.
As the kid points out, she's like, he goes
to her like, lady, we've eaten at this
restaurant a thousand fucking times. You should
know the name of it by now.
you're god damn right kid
well just be glad i don't misspell the names on the rent check you little piece of shit
i ought to fucking put some rat boys
we should we should talk about this football game
this kid which again it's not even like really established
you just sort of see him at one scene
and he's got this brace on his foot like three scenes in and you're like oh okay
he's got you know some kind of condition i don't know if he
i guess it's uh something congenital or something like i don't know
or maybe it was in an accident?
Like, is it permanent? Is it not permanent?
You have no idea.
I think the movie,
it doesn't know what caused it,
but that is here to stay, Steve.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
Not going anywhere?
No, definitely not.
He's not having some Forrest Gump-esque moment
where he's running down the street
and they fucking break off his legs or something.
I was about to mention Forrest Gump,
because it does look like the brace
from Forest Gump.
Gump. And that was only a few
years earlier. And we had Gump
fever across the United States
still to this day, honestly.
Unfortunately. Yeah, there's still some
there's some known cases of gum fever that pop
up. Come down with a case of the gumps.
Yeah, there's a new,
this is a heavy, a new mutant strain that's hard
to break, you know?
The, the
European gump fever
is very tough to break.
Oof, you don't want that.
They love getting gumped.
They went to
Vietnam like 10 years
earlier or whatever the story is
war
the story
you know the thing about this
football scene which we are
introduced to
with some searing
fart country music
which I didn't expect
from this movie
and I love
he's like
he's given
advice to the quarterback
this kid's the water boy
obviously
and so he's out there
and he's like you know
try to get the kid's attention, the quarterback, and he's like, all right, you know, do this,
do that, you know, and it gives him like a decent play. And the kid like spits on his shoes.
I love that. Oh, my Lord. I'm laughing. I'm laughing. So funny. Well, this is why you should never
be the water boy. Like, I don't understand, like, I don't know how they get equipment managers
and water boys. You're just putting yourself in harm's way. You know what I mean? It's a target on
your back. It's for kids who like to get verbally abused. That's just the way it is.
like somebody somebody's going to yell at you somebody's definitely saying something to you I this I just looked this up because I was like because there's this one line the coach gives them a play and the kids like no the right tackle's been nailing me all day coach the coach goes listen kid I've played in a couple of football games and looks at the camera for nine minutes and then says I think I know what I'm talking about and I was like he has to be somebody he's Warren moon by the way oh that guy is Warren moon yes uh
which is kind of hilarious, but I just find that because he's just like, kid, I've played in football games.
Like, who are you?
Well, that's terrible.
Well, yeah, that's interesting because we actually, we did surgery on Mr. Moon and we helped his leg out a little bit.
And he gave us a discount to play this part.
And, you know, it's funny.
Acting is a little harder than surgery because, you know.
Playing football, being a professional quarterback is just, it's on par with surgery, I would say, just the same.
You know, you have to read the defenses, the body's defenses, those white blood cells.
By the way, I love how vague it is, just surgery.
We're not talking about, is it vital organs?
Is it, what counts as surgery?
Now, I once had my wisdom teeth removed, and they called that an oral surgery.
sure yeah because it's surgery on your mouth yeah yeah but i'm just saying that's gotta what's that a tv show equivalent
or i'm not trying to find the bar here that it's a web series i think like guys who like would
remove warts are also i think would go under surgeon and that you might be you might be able to
question that one maybe you know what i'll say i'm done with surgeons
Boyling a Lance is as difficult as making a TikTok video, I'm guessing.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Something, something bunions.
You know, doing a brain transplant is a little easier than doing a podcast, okay?
I do love, so he make, the guy makes the play and like his friend, Ryan's friend is just like, forget it.
No one's ever going to notice you, Ryan, let's get out of here.
man.
So they're walking home
and he really did a good job man.
And then they ride by on bikes
and the kid yells out
and the friend is like, hey Brian,
Ryan, Ryan gave you the best
play, you idiot. And it's like, dude, don't
fucking tell. Don't bring that guy
over here. I don't need you standing
up to this bully
for me, especially after the fact.
Also, the line here
that the bully has is great because he goes,
do you say something? Or
Did you fart?
And then all the girls go, ha ha ha.
These girls, these girls for most of the movie here are our bullies themselves.
Yes.
They enjoy, they revel in the bullying.
This is your big, like, kid, just listen to your friend this one time and understand what's going to happen to you.
Because they're like, hey, cool, we were thinking, man, you know, you gave me such great football advice today.
why don't you meet us at 8 p.m. at this hideout area for your initiation and the friend is like hey we should definitely go home yeah this kid's like no now's my shot I gotta go hang out with him dude never I've said this before and it's a really important lesson never meet a bully at a secondary location never ever do it there's no reason to do it also and go ahead see it's school the areas are
around school, if you happen to see a bully outside of those areas, don't go in.
Like, if you see, if you're riding around and you see your bully in a Wendy's, don't go in
that Wendy's because there's no teacher to save you.
That's true.
No, it's like fucking Lorraine Brocko if she went in and actually looked at the dresses.
Yeah, if, you know, it's bad news.
If your friend does something like this, it is like, you know, he deserves the credit.
The best case scenario, I know it sounds weird, but the best case scenario is if the bully says blow
it out your ass or just beats you up those are actually the best situations and the girls by
the way at this point are bully bait because they're just like yep yeah we're gonna be there tonight
this kid's like we're all gonna get laid tonight also like how old like are these kids versus
the other kids my question because like yeah he's got you know he's got the leg and they're like yeah
you're not on the football team this kid looks like he's nine and the other kid's 17 yeah yeah that's weird
I mean, because at least like, you know, when I played football, this was going to mention when you're talking about the water boy thing, Steve, here was the worst, it was way more embarrassing because it wasn't like some kid who was just doing it. It was the two absolute worst players on the team were also the water boys. The kids that never played, they would maybe get like one play a game. They were also just by default, the water boys. And it was degrading.
Dude, you quit, quit that, dude.
You know what you do in that situation?
Like football so much, they have video games for football, my friend, and they are awesome.
Yeah, you could always just watch it at home.
They play on Sundays usually.
By the way, the friend, his little friend, one of the lines,
now these little kids have like this weird ratatatat, snappy dialogue.
It makes no sense that they would ever have the brain to produce this stuff.
I don't think any adult would either, but it says like, you're meeting them at 8 o'clock.
You're crazy, man.
I mean, Lucifer thinks this guy is a little extreme.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man, Lucifer.
Come on.
Absolutely.
This guy who spit on your shoe.
That guy, Lucifer sees him as like, fuck.
Damn, that guy is hardcore.
Hey, man, I just possessed a little girl and made her kill her whole family.
Hey, man, you should be spitting on people's shoes.
Hey, hey, relax.
It's a little extreme for old Lucifer there, buddy.
Spitting on shoes like that.
That's fucked up, man.
You should take a walk, get your head right, man.
It's not cool.
Actually, honestly, one of these days I'm going to have to retire.
And seeing you spit on that shoe, you might be the right candidate.
You might be the next devil.
I mean, here's the deal, man.
Like, we can't talk through the logistics right now because I got to appear to a young
seven-year-old boy down in Chile and convince him to burn his village to the ground.
But I want to wrap back on this, man, because that is some twisted shit.
spitting on a shoe my goodness
so yeah
the plant the data set
at 8 p.m. we're going to meet these fuckers
somewhere he goes home for a little bit
this is when the mom burns this lasagna and she's like you know what
let's just let's give you money for your Chinese food
because I got to go work tonight she's a real estate
broker here's the thing he's like
when is dad getting home and I'm like great
question and also is this
is this dad dead? Are they
divorced because she just kind of brushes
it off like what you think I'm not a good
cook I'm like no who is his father
I thought one of the kangaroo people
were going to be revealed to be
one of his fathers or whatever I mean
and here's the thing
right what is this a kangaroo
esk mama Mia
yes yes they
they swapped come together
or they I guess what was
Mama Mia they just all did it the same night
with her yeah mama me
I'm fat kangaroos
oh my
No, I fought five kangaroos.
Mama Mia.
Let me tell you something right now.
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
I watched that movie over the weekend, Mama Mia.
Was it hot as fuck?
It fucking rules, dude.
That movie is, it's front-to-back non-stop entertainment.
I had a fucking blast with it.
Absolutely.
But yes, it is sort of like a kangaroo gangbang.
Definitely.
I definitely was getting those vibes while watching Mamma Mia.
Maybe his leg is just a kangaroo.
tail or something that he's trying to keep straight.
Dude, if he just, like, it was
revealed that he's like a kangaroo at the end of the
movie, like he grows his own little tail, like it
pops out of his jean shorts or some shit.
Oh, wow. I thought he... I honestly...
Vomiting, exactly. I thought he was going to transform
at the end or something. I thought he was going to
stay forever. Whatever one Doug
Jones is playing, have him turn into
that one. He plays the silent
one who doesn't speak for most of the
movie. The other thing with this, too,
that would make it interesting with the dad, right, is
take a note from
beloved cartoon classic
The Newzels make it so
that his dad disappeared
one day, right?
And then it turns out the dad
the reason why he's so close with Ming
is because Ming and the dad were
buddies and Ming holds the
secret to the dad's whereabouts. The dad
is stuck in this fucking kangaroo
book and he goes and saves him.
That'd be something. I'm going to...
It would be anything. I'm going to give you an alternative
idea here where
she's giving, she's showing this house.
pretty late at night. This looks like 7.38 p.m. is what I'm looking at. I think she is a realtor for
vampires. And her husband is the king vampire of this area. Right. Or she's the real estate agent
for people who went to work during the daytime. Absolutely not. Also known as vampires. Or a third
theory, she's fucking Peter Gallagher on the reg like American Beauty style, dude. Fair enough. Wow.
I'd rather see that.
God damn you, Steve, making me think
of that fucking trash movie.
I don't know
which I'd rather
rewatch less. Warriors of Virtue
or American Beauty. I thought you were going to
say, would you, I thought you said
you'd rather fuck a kangaroo than Peter Gallagher.
Oh, what are you fucking
crazy? It's Peter Gallagher. I'm not
that. That's why I thought it was surprising.
I think,
if somebody's got to, you all
listeners are good at video. Could somebody do
the American Beauty
garbage bag
scene with
West Bentley
but cut in
Warriors of
virtue whether he's
just crying about
warriors
just a kangaroo
dancing around
it's the most
beautiful thing
I've ever seen
kind of a thing
you know that joke
right guys
yeah
it's trash
yeah
oh it's total trash
so Ming
who I like to think
of as like
this movie's
Nat from 90210
101 right
like he's the buddy
that works
at a restaurant
that you can go to and get some sage wisdom
from. Nato 2 and O had the
good grace to never film a scene where
Brandon has to go up to Nats
bedroom and have a talk with him in
his bedroom. Dude, I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what's going on there. It's really
weird. That's also why
I think it's definitely this dude's restaurant
because he's living above it.
That's just more like a hey man, if you
if you promise to fucking clean the rat
traps, you can take the storage shed
and we'll get a cot for you. I don't know if
I would agree with you, Steve, if it, if it, if it, like, looked shittier than this does.
It's kind of a nice studio apartment.
Well, his view is the kitchen.
That window faces the kitchen.
It's still an apartment in a restaurant that's definitely illegal.
I'm not saying that.
And listen, I love egg rolls and whatever, but you're never getting the smell out of anything in your apartment.
Oh, no, no, no, at all.
Yeah.
I mean, that's if you lived in any restaurant, that's the case.
You're just going to smell like the food they cook.
Because he's like, because Ryan goes over and he's like, hey, Ming.
And again, like, I don't know, dude, the counter is that way.
Don't come in a fucking kitchen during dinner service because he knocks at it.
Someone who seems like Ming's boss, Ming does some kung fu cooking and catches all the plates.
And he's like, hey man, why don't we go upstairs and have a conversation?
Everybody in that restaurant is like, what the fuck is going on?
You know that kid who's in here all the time?
Like, he's up in that fake makeshift apartment there that Ming was.
lives in. No, this time we have to call the cops.
I'm sorry. This has happened like three times before we have to call
the cops. At a certain point, you become
responsible. Exactly. You can't just turn a blind
die. You're an accomplice. Like for all
the FBI knows, you're filming this shit.
Look, for all the FBI
knows indeed. Look, the pork will be
mushoed. Don't worry about it. We have to call the police.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, and he's telling this.
He's telling this kid some garbage story about like this one time he like ripped a cocoon open and the fucking animal inside died and I'm like, what are you doing?
Um, hi, we're going to have to evacuate your table.
The FBI is going to be doing a sting at about five minutes.
Um, we're going to comp your meal.
Um, we'll even wrap it up for you.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, bring in another kid.
Let's see if he takes the bait.
Um, hi.
Yeah, uh, this restaurant's going to be closing.
Yeah, I don't know how we survive this
So yeah, the FBI is coming
And this place is closing and we have no more jobs
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye everybody
The health department gave us an X
Which is not an A, B, C, or D
It's actually an X because something
Untoward happened in the attic
So, yeah, you know, we should have seen this coming
When we agreed to work at a restaurant
called Ming's Diddleshack, but...
And what was cooking was not the food.
More at 11th.
It's the same rating they give places
that serve actual human flesh.
So it's kind of an honor in a way.
And I was just thinking, like,
imagine being a cannibal restaurant,
but like you're a bad cannibal restaurant.
That's unfortunate.
What, like undercooked or something?
Yeah, totally.
Like you just, it's bad service, bad food.
no those places you need to have a good seer
like no matter what you're doing you have to make sure you have a good
I would love a good seer on a nice human steak
oh you gotta go meat rare
oh yeah of course because I respect the ingredient
of course I'm an aristocrat
somehow that sounded like
a three stooges jokes
that's a good fellow's joke but yes
oh yeah of course we just watched that movie
sorry everybody my brain's dead we we have a three hour episode on goodfellas this month
on our patreon um so we're breaking into this old tunnel you know whatever he meets these
fucking bullies uh and there this is i i had to i had to just stop everything it was like a pause
and i got up i to get you know another drink after this because so the buddy is also there
and the kid is like he's you know he's trying to tell this Ryan kid you know hey we really shouldn't
break into this tunnel you know they're like all right you guys got to go first you take the
flashlights and go first into the tunnel and this kid's freaking out and he's worried that
these bullies are going to quote make hot dogs out of our weaners with meatballs on the side this kid
is fearing.
He's fearing full castration
from these bullies.
Well, I'll be honest,
if you did something like that,
that would show real promise.
We would be going right up the ranks
in an organization like mine.
Well, I mean, you know,
if you cut their genitals off
and fed them to them,
I'd retire right now
and give you the keys to the kingdom.
Look, are those homemade buns?
This is just, I am impressed beyond words.
Well, the thing is like,
If they're bullies and they're making hot dogs out of their weaners,
it would be like more bullish,
I think, to eat that in front of them instead of letting them and eat the hot dog.
Oh, oh, what is this ragu you have the testicles in?
It's marvelous.
What would you, like a human penis hot dog?
What happens we think in here?
Spicy mustard.
You want to drown out some of that flavor.
Oregon chili.
Oh, yeah, dude, chili dog might be a good rude, really hide that fucking shaft as it goes down your throat.
But the kid is worried because, like, when they meet up in this dark alley, the kid's like, the bully is like, the main bully is like, we're going to play follow the leader and you're the leader, which is I think what happened with the last thing the fucking the, the, the Paradise Lost Murder is heard.
Oh, my God.
Like, literally, it's just like, dude, I'm getting the.
fuck out of here.
I mean, yeah, you're not wrong.
It is creepy, right?
Like, it actually sort of, I don't know why it reminded me of this because they're like,
we're going to play follow the leader and you're the leader.
It reminded me of that Simpsons gag where they wrap a millhouse and a bunch of Joe Quimby bumper stickers.
They're like, the mummy's ready for his inaugural journey.
Mystical voyage, I think.
Oh, mystical voyage.
Is that what it is?
Oh, man, it's so great.
but uh so we go in and it's like it's initiation time and anytime i hear the words again like i would
have been not anywhere near the situation because i i don't need to be initiated to anything thank you
very much well i don't of course not i i want to hear what you're offering me what is what is this
organization what do what kind of protection am i getting i want to hear it all before i start
doing whatever you want me to do in this place that's a good question too right is like not only like
like, what am I gaining from this?
But, like, what is expected from me?
Beyond crossing this, like, narrow pipe that's over a bunch of raging sewer water,
uh, like, like, where are we going from there?
You know, like, what am I being initiated to exactly?
Is the ultimate goal to overthrow the school?
Cause I'm not in if that's it.
But like, if it's the point is to like take over like the morning announcements, maybe.
Guys, guys, I'm going to break your hearts a little bit here.
but I don't think there was an end game for this initiation.
I think it was more just a bully situation.
Yeah.
It was never getting initiated, guys.
Because, yeah, the idea is they're in a water pipe factory or some such thing.
I don't know what's going on.
And there's an enormous toilet in which he has to walk over on a narrow pipe and graffito tag the opposing wall.
And Brad, the lead bully is like, hey man, we all had to do.
it dude and the girl
who he likes the most is like come on Brad
you're being a jerk
and his friend Ryan's friend Chuckie says
why don't we make like Tom and
Cruz oh boy oh boy what the shit
is that
what the shit is that
that's what happens you know what it is that's what happens
when the fucking four idiot doctors come up with an idea
for a movie
now this kid's got a team of writers working for
him he like every time
he goes away from all right see you later
and then he goes back to the writer's room
and they fucking work on the evening's material.
Well, that's, I mean, this will tell you
exactly why fucking Rye is so
like tempted by the bullies. He's got this
fucking deal with most of the time.
This fucking one-liner
factory. Of course, I
want to fucking maybe dangle myself
over a mystical toilet.
You know, you know, Rye,
I wouldn't go over that pipe, but looks as
slippery as Monica Lewinsky's dress.
Oh, oh.
Bob, boom, bo, pop, pop.
The trust was slippery with cum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what?
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it right now.
Jesus Christ.
Okay, you can leave now, Chuckie.
Jesus.
I don't know.
Is it weird that Chuckie started hanging
with Kevin Eubanks?
I looked up both of the screenplay writers here,
Michael Vickerman and Hugh Kelly.
Hugh Kelly appears to have attached himself
to a some sort of direct-to-VHS franchise
called Cade.
which was a
the first one at least
was a Lou Farragno vehicle
and oh what a surprise
he returned for Cage
to the arena of death
that might be something
right up our alley
and then the other guy
Michael Vickerman
has written
a bunch of stuff
that's all nothing
so yeah
no surprise here
we're getting
fucking lines like
let's make like
Tom and Cruz
it sounds like
the correct pedigree
because this is nothing
as well
so he decides to do it
against Chuckie and everyone else's wishes.
Because Brad goes to the other side.
Like, come on, man.
It's so easy to do.
And again, like, this kid's got like a leg thing.
It's, you know, it's not very easy for him.
No, of course not.
And like, this bully should be brought up on murder charges.
I think at the end of the movie, we are to presume that he's just found dead later.
Like, there's just a little Brad's skeleton there.
Because what's your bully end game?
Like, yeah, your bully end game is like, oh, I pants that kid.
and look at everybody had to look at his weaner, L.O.L.
Or I made everybody know that kid's an idiot by dropping his tray.
This is murder.
Like, this kid goes in the water.
No one's going to save him.
That's what his over, the bully is overactive.
Like, no, what you do?
When he falls in the water is pretty amazing.
And also, when they come back at the very end, Andrew, these two little kids say,
eh, you think we should call 911?
Yeah, let's do it.
So they save him presumably.
That's fucked up.
for dead. You know who to
this is the end of your football career. You know who
doesn't have a story about killing a little
kid, Aaron Rogers.
You know what I mean? That we know of. Because they covered it up,
dude. Every single one, every person
in the NFL, oh, definitely.
They're eating end of cream or whatever
else. Why do you think Aaron Rogers grew that mustache, man,
to disguise himself after he murdered
that kid? Exactly. No, you guys,
you just aren't seeing the full chessboard,
okay? Clearly, this full
football player the night before took the father down to the same one and made him do the same
thing and drowned him in that place. So both the son and the father have been drowned here.
He's working for the mother. And finally, she's going to go off to Cancun and have a fucking time
for once. Wait a second, though. So you're saying that Brad, this teenager, murdered the
father? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Two Jeffers with the same toilet. With the same
Water hole.
Brad is up,
Brad Johnson is up
on charges for the
Jeffers slayings
that happened in town
just two weeks ago.
Mother Jeffers still
M. I.A. presumed dead.
She might be one of these ladies
that wants to have sex with the teenage kids
and she's running off with the bullied
in league with Satan.
Oh man.
Hey man, if you
fuck that guy's mother
after you kill him, you might be
the new thing. I don't know. Chuckie was right
dude. You are fucking twisted.
Get this dude. Then he knocks her
up and that's the fucking
spot. That's the actual devil's
son in her belly.
Look, I'm
saying I would have preferred
the cock hot dogs.
I would have preferred that.
But this will do in lieu
of that. I love that we're like
45 something minutes into this. We still
haven't gotten to the land of Tao.
We're too busy talking about
fucking cock dogs.
The cock dogs are important.
It's a rich tapestry.
So he does literally fall down this hole
and he wakes up somehow
in the land of town. There, Eric,
is that soon enough for you?
Thank you. Oh, the land of town. Do you mean
cheap dagoba? Yeah.
And we also even get
an Ewok village.
Yes, we definitely do
actually. The tree house or it's
Kai Shook or whatever.
Yeah, dude, we're talking like
tree houses. So we got
Kashik, the Ewak village itself
on Endor. And then he does wake up
right by this fucking bog, which
is what made me think of Dagaba.
It's just we're, there's another
hilarious Star Wars ripoff
coming in a line of dialogue like later
in the movie. I think
these screenwriters and these dudes
creating these characters all just clearly loved Star
Wars just a little bit. Oh yeah.
They love money and the possibility of
making it. Also that.
but yeah the I had a huge laugh right here because he's immediately like set upon by like
woodsman scumbags that we learn are like the you know just the grunts for the the main villain
here and some dude like the kid starts running away some dude throws a spear and hits him in
the back hilarious this kid I mean it hits his backpack but it still makes him fall over dude
I was laughing hysterically dude yeah you man you fucking wind up in the wrong enchanted forest
you're fucking dead dude dead with trespassing also by the way this whole land it's kind of
Mario brothers ask in the way that you take a sewage pipe to get there yeah you don't
you don't hear the noise well because instead it was just a toilet flush sound that's a good
point Mario Mario Mario and Luigi Mario they smelled like stinking hot shit all the time
the kids just hanging around he just has a huge turtle shell on his fucking arms
a whole time looking around
he
he realizes that his leg
works and he's like and he doesn't have the
he doesn't have the brace and he starts
he has a moment of joy until
Michael J. Anderson like starts to like
jump him and like
choke him to death sort of
it's a weird little scene
for Michael J. Anderson
even curing the leg in this
magical land seems a little weird to me
I thought maybe the point would be like he
learns like he can still be all he can
be despite the leg you know like yes the fact that it's like oh I'm cured in this land and that's
why I'm having great adventures and now back to reality that's right dude he the lesson that
he learns is that he's completely irrelevant to society unless he is in this fantasy world
yeah that's exactly the line here too when he realizes his leg I mean this this kid
shockingly went on to leave acting a year later uh but he realizes the leg isn't uh you know
damaged anymore and he goes
it works yes and then this little like showboating moment of him like dancing around and he's pretending to play football all alone
i i feel this is he's a disgusting shit boy we haven't said it yet he's a class a disgusting shit boy
and this moment right here i was like disgusting shit boy alert i'm not gonna object but i will say you do we do
have to pay attention he does he is also a floppy-haired chosen one which we do love oh that's
true. So it's like, it's like half
and half there. And I'm telling you, half and
half's not enough. I'm not eating that cock, hot dog.
I feel like they, like, during
this montage, they had to take out
like everybody dance
now because it was costing
too much. The laws couldn't take it.
Yeah, because he's just like,
oh, yeah,
Jeffers goes for the score. Yeah,
this is Jeffers, big run
here. Yeah.
Oh, no.
and how I'm getting tackled by Michael J. Anderson.
Dude, what is Michael J. Anderson up to in this movie?
A whole lot of nothing.
Like, he's supposed to be like a sneaky little, like, backstabber kind of character.
I don't know, though.
I mean, I guess he's in cahoots with the main guy because we also meet Marley Shelton's character right here.
He's in Coots with everyone, because at the towards the end of the film, he's like, oh, the ruse needs you.
Yeah.
Who the fuck knows?
I think he's a fair weather kind of ally here, right?
Like, whichever way the fucking wind's blowing, dude, he's right there with you.
Smart.
Fucking little front runner.
God damn him.
He did not return for Twin Beaks because he made up claims that David Lynch raped his daughter.
So that's the end of that.
That's the end of that.
I think I heard that his like Facebook posts were like insane.
Yeah.
Look that.
That's what I heard.
I didn't hear the thing about Lynch's daughter.
Oh, I did.
yeah oh really he also said that he engineered the murder of jack dance as well and like
david lynch's daughter just came out and he's like i sure hope mike gets the help he needs
by everybody that's all i'll say oh yikes poor jennifer lynch i know it's just like that's how you
get turned into a tree you fuck around too much you get turned into a tree uh and then marley
Shelton. I mean, she's from, like, deathproof.
She is in Never Been Kissed. I do also
remember. Sugar and Spice. Yes. Sugar and Spice. Yep.
She's a good actress. Oh, she was, yeah, she's the cop
in, she's like the new cop character in Scream
Ford, and she's actually not bad in that either. So I do, I do like her.
I get, though, just nothing to do in this movie, really.
But she is sort of like, I mean, pretending.
to be in line with the Rue community.
Because she saves him and she tells Michael J. Anderson go, fuck off.
And he does.
And she's like, let me take you back to my village, which is protected by these warriors
of virtue who are the Rues and Master Chung, who is their splinter, who's just a guy.
I mean, the thing is like, it's everyone's just people except for these five fucking kangaroos.
and a
rhino guy
and a water buffalo guy
and that is it
those are wily beast
and mosley
yes and they love each other
yes
which is cool is that right
I don't know
they were like dancing
on each other and stuff
I got that vibe too
I thought they were fucking
which is cool I'm you know
I think they should get married
I think a rhino should marry
a war dog or will be
by the way this movie
obviously massive sexual awakening
for
yard bunch oh you okay um wait so wait is the is why is wily beast the like bull or is mostly the
bull that's a great question does it here's a follow-up question chris does it matter yes because he
he's the one who gets more screen time and he's also one who is extremely excited all the time
can i ask you chris now would the would the bull or the rhino be the bottom and or would it be a switch
situation. You know, I'd
have to really give that a thought
before I gave you a solid answer
because I know you don't want just
some cheap answer I throw out. I know
I know you want me to think about it and really
give you a thoughtful answer.
So let me get back down.
Please do your due diligence as
to which of these fucking monsters
would be the top of the book.
I think this podcast is
known for being thoughtful with everything we
say. I think it's totally equanimical
and they are 69ing all the
That's fucking great.
I think it's exclusively 69.
Just nutting in each other's mouths.
You know what? That's beautiful.
Why not?
They are also, we should say clearly,
because like these fucking kangaroos,
the warriors of virtue,
the titular warriors of virtue,
even though there are five of them,
right? They are the Ninja Turtles.
These fucking things are like the bebop and rock steady.
Yeah.
Like,
let's just get that out of the way.
Because we are,
we are fucking wholesale ripping off Ninja Turtles with this shit.
I love when they were introducing,
like all the rues.
I think they call them roos,
these kangaroo men.
And there's like,
oh,
did Australia have that word
fucking copyrighted?
What was that about?
We,
we get like the,
oh,
they each one of them uses an elemental force.
And like every,
every one of them,
there's like an earth person
and whatever else.
And what I found funny
is like every introduction,
they're like,
and don't forget metal,
there's metal right there.
Is that me?
Metal.
Yes.
Metal.
It's earth, wind, fire, and water, and metal.
Which I think is actually a talus thing.
I'm guessing.
Listen, and there's nothing wrong with that.
No, but just, I mean, like, I don't know.
There's just like, there are movies that could introduce these things to me,
and then there's talking kangaroo movies, which throw it in.
They throw it in, and I don't know what the fuck to believe.
Well, don't forget metal.
We should say that sun is a lady.
so that makes her a little different than
and she is for some reason
ghost white and she's the creepiest one of them all
yeah it's terrifying it is and she looks like
a porcelain doll and it was freaking me out
the whole time these all these things have
very pronounced lips which I'm not a big fan of I'll be
honest with you no nope the lips the eyeballs the whole
fucking thing it's disgusting those lips can work
it when they've got the
extremely wet blood on their face
later
amazing. I can't believe they got bloodied.
That really disturbed me. I don't think I've ever been shook like by that, an image like that in a while.
It's just, it's a lot. It's just really like, because they're, we find out that, yeah, they all have their own element and et cetera.
And the one, the water guy has left the gang, Yun, has left the gang. Why? Because he murdered a dude last week or something.
Yes, it's strongly alluded to. I thought it was a kid.
He accidentally killed.
I thought it was a ray gun.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, because like as we come to find out,
it was Alicia's brother.
And yeah,
I think he just had a ray gun,
unfortunately.
What?
I mean,
but they never explained in the instance.
Like it was it,
was it a duel?
Was it a big battle?
Were they like walking in the woods?
And he just like fucking hit,
kick this kid in the head.
See,
he hit a rock.
Steve,
is if,
if this was like,
understandable,
we would have got an explanation.
But because we'd
don't. I just imagine it was
an in cold blood fucking execution
style brutal
brutal move by young. Oh yeah
dude, this fucking kangaroo left pennies
on that kid's dog. Absolutely.
I'll tell you why, you know, there's a
story, you should know this, you should know this
story of what happened. He stole
his bright saber.
You know,
he took it and you know what?
He should have given it back. It was very
important, his bright saber.
you guys ever notice
when you're writing really good joke down
your notes and then you forget about it
absolutely so you know what this kid is
played by Elijah could
how about that
excellent
that joke works anytime
he's using like every scene
it should have been couldn't
Elijah couldn't
I know that doesn't work with a joke
but he can't
he literally cannot
he's awful
he's really bad because like his thing is like again like he would be a great entry
i mean here's the thing with the five fucking kangaroos
you need different personalities
you really you need like they even say when they how about how about a
personality that'd be cool yeah just one and you can fucking share it between
the five of them i got a question about these things are these are like dogs or
something because they don't really talk they just stand there and go
and I assume you have to walk these things.
Because they say the one, the metal one, hasn't talked in years.
I'm like, none of these things talk.
And if they talk, it's inconsequential.
And when they do talk, there's no, like,
one of them sounds like Megatron.
Yes.
And like the other three are so indistinguishable.
I was just like, okay, yeah, one of them's talking, I guess.
Exactly.
And they say like, oh, the fire one, he's kind of a trickster.
This one does, this one's very loyal.
I'm like, how about,
who's a party dude who's the leader who does machines these are the things i need to know yon i think
yon is the leader because he's got the sword yeah he's leo he's for sure leo yes and he's he's reluctant
in this pursuit but he eventually comes around and gets his stones back or whatever whatever this
movie's about um so yeah we are we are explained all this
the character of Master Chung
who's played by Chowley Shi
who's also in big trouble in Little China
and it's just
the reason I hate this
kid character more than anything
is because like
95% of his lines are just
questions that require expository
answers and it's
the absolute
laziest garbage writing
like he's just like what are the ruse
what are the elements
what's fighting I mean
he's he's also just a brat like yeah once we get into it here like he gets very braddy very
quickly mm-hmm well because he's got an attitude right because they're they're they're
calling him like the newcomer and he's like he's like first of all my name's not newcomer
the name is ryan jeffers and at that point the cat one of the kangaroos right well i guess it's
just the lady kangaroo uh needs to take him and bury his face in her fucking pouch and
mother of because I just can't even and there's no reference to pouches in this movie by the
big problem there's a there's a line that's like newcomer well he's a little small to be a newcomer
and I'm like how how I think newcomer is supposed to be and again this we does not do any of this work
is like the chosen one the one that's prophesied or whatever because like oh the newcomer like
newcomer just be a big guy we just ape in star wars again because it's like stormtroopers
A little short to be a storm trooper.
Obviously, that's a stretch.
But, like, why does a newcomer need to be tall?
One day, there shall come a newcomer who will be six foot five with the widest of asses.
Fear the newcomer.
A dump truck ass that wouldn't quit.
The newcomer is coming.
The newcomer with his wide, juicy ass.
You'll be like, wow, that guy's built like a refrigerator.
but you will not be able to not look at his ass just dragging it around showing it to
every sensually dripping you cannot you sir are no newcomer look at that little
little bottom you have the newcomer has the largest of asses of possible your butt can
quit but the newcomers couldn't everyone
instantly is able to recognize
the legitimate newcomer
for when you lay your gaze
upon that juicy
behind, you shall know
the newcomer has
arrived.
I would love
a giant, like a little kid falls into the portal.
And then he comes out like a giant guy
with a huge dump truck ass
and he fucking great.
Oh, it's Gerard Deferreux.
I am the new Kamau. Look at all these rules.
Oh, dude, that guy wants to go to the fucking magical land of town to fucking escape prosecution.
Absolutely.
Do you tax people here in town?
Oh, I live here now.
But, yeah, so like, whatever.
Oh, wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second.
Because here's the line. It's the biggest fucking Star Wars rip-off line.
This seals the deal that these people are just aping Star Wars left and right.
Master Chung has a line here
right when he's about to explain
all of their little
like elemental powers
he goes
they use the force
of nature's elements
like the delay
between force and of nature's
elements you could fit a fucking
truck to it
but that's the thing too
they do like yes
if I'm water your fucking wind or
they barely use those elements in these don't this movie the fire guy like like
makes his hand a lighter at one point like no dude yes yes not even the hand is the
fucking thumb is the fucking thumb is the lighter and that's fucking disturbing what
happens with finger play on with that guy I don't I don't want to know you
wouldn't want it's a little to do dude yeah the fucking wood guy's just a stiff
piece of shit the only thing they do is throw a hula hoop on a fan that
is the big action scene of this movie that
they have is descending that
little like spiky tunnel
and then yeah throwing a
that's all they do
we yeah so we
come to find out that Angus McFadden
Komodo is a
guy here's a guy
that he goes to every
what is it life spring
and life spring that's correct
and gobbles it up to live forever
and he's got all these soldiers
all these bald goatee
soldiers that
serve him night and day
including Commander Grillo
or whatever. This guy's
General Grillo. General
Grillo. Don't you remember General
Grillo when we were friends in high
school? You belong on our side.
Dude. Yeah, what is that shit?
When they start appealing to the better
natures of General Grillo, I was
like, I need to leave my own home.
What are you talking about? General Grillo
Chris Cabin, correct me
if I'm wrong on this, or anyone else
who has seen this movie. I just know that Chris has, but
the guy playing General Grillo, is
he the buddy
in Henry portrait of a serial
killer? Yes, I think so.
Oh, wow, that's a great movie. Oh, is it
oh, okay. Yeah, I think that's him. Yeah, he's
what's his face is friend.
Rooker's, yeah, Michael Rooker's buddy. Yeah,
this General Grillo guy.
Wow, he was quite
good in that movie, like,
disturbingly good in that movie, and
he's just not here. By the way, all
Also, Lee Orenberg from Seinfeld and Pirates of the Caribbean is another one of these.
That was him, right?
Yeah.
The guy gets stuck in the trunk.
Yes.
That's Jerry, Seinfeld's a real phony.
All these bald goate dudes that are Komodo's beck and call, and including some other lady who has claws for hands, who is so ill-explained, barbiturates.
What's her name?
Oh, yeah.
She's.
Barbiturized.
Yeah.
Yeah.
see i see it right here it says barbittuitz uh it's uh lady rest strike yeah dude this lady
this lady got lost on the bus to outworld and she went up here and she's like bar bar bar
rote barbarotius yeah name uh she's like hey whatever she seems to be his number two i
guess look what and i guess like possibly romantically linked to him also yeah what do you remember
a Robert McKee's book. You want to have
a character that nobody knows how to say
their name. That's a
cue to character. It makes
them more interesting. It makes you it's a seductive
trait.
Michael J. Anderson's character,
by the way, one
letter off, so I'm just calling
him this anyway. This dude's
name of this movie is Mudflap.
Yep. Okay. Mud lap.
It's actually mud lap.
It's just such a word worse.
Yeah. Because that it just makes me think
like a dog like lapping up mud
or something. Like that wasn't just like
that's just like the laziest, like, I don't
know, what do we want to call these characters?
Um, page fud.
Everything seems like a placeholder.
Yeah, uh, how about a boar mutt?
Listen, well, it's like, it's, it's, it's,
the naming of these characters is like lazy willow, right?
I mean, these sound like garbage willow reject names.
It is hard, it is easier to connect a
a left ventricle to
the arm
that it is to write a character's name.
You know it is.
It's true.
We should say also that what they're doing here
with these life springs is Komodo is
mining an element
that is in them called Zubrium.
And Zubrium.
Zubrium. Ladies and gentlemen, you hear about this?
You hear about this? Zubriam.
Zubrium. Is keeping him alive
indefinitely?
Yeah.
Okay.
is it yeah i don't understand exactly is it like a liquid or is it like a metal he eats
it's whatever you want it to be dude because they don't fucking tell you i don't think it's like
the earth whatever you choose the earth is producing its own like adrenaline gland or something
that the rich eat oh you're talking about adrenochrome he's getting adrenalogram yes yes exactly
that's what this whole movie's about okay it's about atrina chrome okay i just have to say it like
that zubrium or whatever the fuck's uh
No, no, it's adrenochrome.
In the magical land, we call it something different.
Sure, fair.
Hi, this is Barbara from Dr. Law's office.
Yeah, we're going to have to cancel your Monday appointment.
Dr. Law is going to be making a movie about five mystical kangaroos for about six months.
Wait, you mean Dr. Law, my surgeon?
Sounds like you're talking about Dr. Claw.
Yeah, it's a movie that he's going to be writing and producing.
But my cancer.
I'm sorry. Dr. Law is very busy. These kangaroos need to be written.
Now, Miss Miller, I have to tell you, it is actually much more difficult for me to be on a movie set than for me to be operating on your husband's heart.
Right, yes. He could cure your loved one instantly, but he's working very hard on a movie right now. Whatever you got is easy.
set
oh my god
it's just the dumbest
so that's our episode folks
well because again
this is when the movie becomes total
mush like there's backs
and forths and traitors
and so on and so forth and it just
it all looks like shit and it all
sounds like nothing also
I think there's kind of like some
some bad crawl elements
I love crawl but I feel like some of the
artistic designs here
like I think the court of
let me look at my notes
Komoto
yeah
that's the name
so in Komoto's court I feel like
there's even like a glave like
emblazed on the floor
yes
well I was also thinking
now that when you said crawl too
the other thing was like all of the
like armor and shit
that Komodo's dudes are wearing
for whatever reason also kind of look
a little crawl-esque to me.
Definitely, yeah.
I would absolutely say that.
Yeah.
I would say the only of the next major thing is fucking McFadden, getting the kid and being like,
you know, if you just turn on the kangaroos, I'll make you Joe Montana.
You'll be a football player forever.
What does that mean?
How would you do that, sir?
How does this guy know what football is?
I think he just thinks, like, yeah, you could put your foot up,
start kicking around some dudes' testicles all you want.
Your football player.
Yes, you could be the next to let me see this.
Dionne Sanders.
Yes, that sounds right.
Dion Sanders.
Hold on.
Let me open Wikipedia and the other dimension really fast.
I mean, listen, here's the reality, Ryan.
Okay, even if you didn't have your leg brace, you're not making that football team, dude.
No.
You know, I don't know.
Go start at the fucking mighty might level and then we can see, but like, you're not playing high school, but five foot one.
Yeah.
I mean, we live in a culture, though, like, or at least we used to.
People don't know where we live in the decaying American Empire where people used to say, you could do whatever you want.
You work hard.
Ryan, you start doing those plays.
start running those gauntlets, you're going to
become whatever you want. And it's just
frankly a crock of shit.
It would be hilarious
if instead of being able to like walk
around easily and like having a good leg
and everything, he just gets credit
for the play. Like it's just
people walking up and being like, good job
on that play. Hey, good job on that
play. Hey, good. And he's just happy
like bright smile.
That would make some sense. Yeah. I mean, here's the
thing, right? Like, clearly
the kid knows the game of
He's able to identify some of the strategies that the other team are using on defense and, you know, creates a play that works.
You know what? You could be a coach. You know what? That could work out. Like, you obviously have a grasp of the game.
Like, maybe take that angle. But like, yeah. Bracer, no, you ain't getting on that fucking football team.
He could also be like a tailgate attendee.
Right. You can just be a fan of the game, too. Or maybe that's all right. Or maybe the double murder.
assassin football player.
Of course. What else is cool?
You could throw on that. Space Marine.
Yeah, baby chef.
Chef's a cool thing to be these days, right?
Mr. Anderson, do not raise your voice.
I'm sorry.
Dr. Law, I don't care if your transplant isn't taking.
Dr. Law is very busy researching football for his kangaroo movie.
Researching football.
You know, read about football is a little harder than operating on someone.
Look, I'm going to be very honest with you, Mr. Turgit.
Like, the reason I was researching what a person and a bull together would look like when I was the night before doing your, I didn't mean to leave the scalpel in your wife, as I'm trying to say.
Yikes, that's a flower.
Yeah, what I'm trying to say is I was trying to transform you into some type of bull-like creature.
Because I thought your wife looked like a rhino.
And not maybe you two could fucking bump uglies.
So I guess the whole idea here, like the, such as it is with this plot, is they need to get this manuscript because if it's in the hands of Komodo, that's bad.
But if it's in their hands, it will somehow be able to allow the Warriors of Virtue to finally do what they have been unable to do in the past is finally defeat Komodo.
rid him of their land and bring
peace back to the life spring
or something close
to that. And a thing you could
do if you were writing a good movie
is explain how big
this world is because it seems like
it's about a mile wide.
Yes, yes. Yeah. I mean
it's Cheap Degaba is just
it's a little bit bigger than my parents' garage.
When we first see the EWalk Village
the music is like the grandeur
and it's like this sucks.
the music really pumps you up in this movie and it's just like what yeah can I tell you guys what I this seems to be a good time to point out what I thought this movie actually was and I kept waiting for it to happen and I think it took me way too long to realize it wasn't going to happen I thought this movie and it the film actually to my credit hints at this for two seconds and it's a better idea and then they drop it entirely I thought this was a
a movie where this kid goes to this world,
he meets these fucking things, and
then something happens and all
of these mystical creatures come into the
real world. And it's like
fish out of water, it's a little
more Ninja Turtles-esque in that way, right?
Because there is a line where Komodo is like
and it's so poorly
handled, but it's like he's
somehow understood, like he's got the manuscript
at one point, and he's like, hey, by the way,
General Grillo,
I know that there's another
dimension. And maybe we
should try to go there because maybe there there might be more life springs that we could
uh you know take advantage of like that's that's something yes that's what should have happened
right this like garbage fantasy land where it is clearly just a sound stage which it never once feels
like you're outside and i'm not against fantasy lands but if you don't got that budget fucking
and pull the cord and just show me fucking suburbia
with Komodo walking around weirdly.
That's a good point.
100%.
And like what they try to put,
they spend so much time with Yon
dealing with murdering this guy that we never met.
We never even see what he looks like for crying out loud.
Hear about him at all besides that Yon killed him in cold blood.
And now Yon is too ashamed that he took this life,
that he won't pick up the sword again.
and he's kind of an outcast with his other rude buddies and it's really tough and then he says okay
fine fuck it i'll do it yep that's it that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the
big fucking reveal fuck it i'll do it he decides to shed the last last remnant of humanity or
Rumanity or whatever it is.
Rumanity.
Oh, the Rumanity indeed.
And just become a cold-blooded killer.
You know, I consider myself a Rumanitarian.
I'm so glad, you know, we have this podcast.
It's nice to work in the Rumanities.
Hey, Batman, you know we live in a Rumanity.
Oh, wait, no, that's a sign.
That doesn't work at all.
Hot dog.
There's the thing.
Saved it.
Hold on.
More room and then room and.
Oh, yep.
There it is.
But like you're totally right because we're told, right, that this guy, you know,
this kangaroo guy, Yun, yeah, murdered.
By the way, let's just clarify, because it doesn't come out until later and it doesn't even matter.
But he murdered Alicia's brother.
Yeah.
Alicia at one point mentions because she's talking to Ryan and she's like, oh, yes, me and
my brother lost our parents when we were quite
small and then he's like oh yeah
where's your brother and she's like
he died recently
so you
eventually know it but I
shockingly put it together right away
that is hilarious because I remember
when Yon was like
it was an accident
so this is what happened
Yon and all his kangaroo buddies
were drinking and doing
coke in the basement of their
house playing ping pong and stuff
a bunch of them left but yon wanted to keep drinking right which you do so yeah he left to go up to
the corner store to get more beer hell yeah but accidentally the burner and the house was on
and and alicia's brother was sleeping upstairs and he burned to death oh you know what i'm blaming
that on the fire rue yeah and i don't rochester by the sea
and they're yon's like fucking fixing light fixtures
and went on the walk back singing more than a room into me
at the end of Elise is like
I'm so sorry the way I treated you yun
I should have never said those terrible things
my kangaroo heart was broken
my kangaroo heart
that sounds like that could be a good song
the whole thing that I was trying to say about this Ryan talking this dude out of his funk
I mean it's insane because we're told like oh you and will never get over this he feels like
he disgraced himself us warriors of virtue have a code we never kill he killed somebody and
this kid gets him to get over this murder problem after having known him for five minutes like
it's yes it's so bad it is so bad because he's just passing this off as an
How does he do it? He calls him a wimp.
Yeah, he's like, come on, you wimp.
And he's like, well, oh, if you call me a coward, I guess I should get back to murdering.
That kid told me.
Well, you know what? The kid's got a point. I don't have any honor left to disgrace.
Might as well keep killing.
Well, you know, finding character motivation is harder in a lot of ways than brain surgery in a lot of different ways.
I'm not going to get into him now, but it is, it's very.
difficult no no i'm sorry all four of them are busy yes all four of them are working on the kangaroo
movie listen i am sorry yes even the even the dentist yes if if you're listen gentle
listener if you're ever scheduled for surgery first of all i hope everything goes well i i i hope
for the best for you but if the if you're scheduled with a doctor law fucking cancel that shit
run for the hills yeah you just better you better ask him if he's got any plan
trips to Holly's weird before you book the surgery. Dennis K. Law, Ron Law, Christopher Law, and Jeremy
law. You see any of those names. You fucking run. Canceled like 70 appointments, like 10 people
to death essentially, all to come to the idea that the baby says do it already. And they think that
and thinking of that line and thinking of cancaroos is harder than saving your life or whatever it was.
my lord these people
doctors
there is a great thing
where so he gets Yun to come
back to the village and
everyone is freaking out that this
dude returned and they're so thankful
and there is the funniest thing where
it's like oh my God Yun came back
oh my God that's so thank you
you Yun and it's like oh no
don't thank me thank Ryan
and this whole creepy little
village just starts going thank you
Ryan thank you
There are multiple points at this, I think, towards the end of the movie, it's like, well, really, Ryan, it was you that one, that it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's insulting.
You know what I just, you know what I just realized?
The guy who requested this in Indiana, his name was Ryan.
I wonder, why it's that.
Interesting, little Ryan fan fiction for you, Ryan.
In the magical land of Indiana.
What, you got little fucking kangaroos?
what did everybody notice uh because there is like there was a moment where it's like the five are back and we're going to protect you from comodo what is with this warrior's virtue hand gesture that we've got here it's a little too close to the old h h if you ask me well you see us ruse had to go and hiding after the war we took the toilet to brazil and then we took it further down into the fucking land of what is this
Tau, my friend.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It was harder than surgery to remember that.
Yeah.
Tao is easier to say than Argentina.
So the three of them, and I can't even tell you, who decide to just do some recon at
Komodo's place to see what the fuck's up, right?
And they get captured pretty much immediately.
Great, great job, guys.
And this is when they go into the...
The fan area and
at least I know the metal ones there
because the metal one's the one with all the rings.
I almost said cool rings, but I stopped myself
because it's not cool.
Nope.
Not even ironically are these things cool.
And they have to like stop fan blades
to escape because it's basically
a rancor pit kind of a thing.
Like what you recall a commode is like
goodbye ruse and shoves them down this hole.
Did you catch what's going on here though?
Did you catch what's going on here?
it's like a blender is so it's like it's first of all um this is the first instance of but general grillo
don't you remember when we were once friends which is hilarious but the way that they start
falling down this thing is the floor opens and this is some grade A garbage CGI oh yeah
I mean this movie looks and sounds like shit top to bottom but it has very little actual like
CGI floating around in it right here this
floor look out below it is
terrible this is like a late 90s
video game cutscene
absolutely dude you could see
this on Nintendo 64 absolutely
yes ma'am I can hear that you're in terrible
pain but they have to work on General
Grillo's backstory
all of them all
four of them need to do it
look if you wanted Dr. Law
to deliver your baby maybe you should have got
knocked up at a different time of the year
I don't know what to tell you listen Dr. Law
says that looking at a
flat line on the monitor
here is easier than looking at an
empty page on his word processor.
I don't know what to tell you. I'm looking
at the surgery area right now.
Yeah, yeah. They have a storyboarding
map going on
in the back. A lot
of tacks and strings. I don't know
what to tell you. Yeah, I think your son's
going to die. I'm sorry.
Start making arrangements.
Maybe you can find a
toilet to flush them down. Maybe they'll go
to a magical land.
don't book your son's funeral at the law funeral home because that brother is actually out writing a play right now
so they ain't going to bury your dead kid i'm yelling at me you yell at me all you want ma'am you should have chosen less creative
doctors okay i'm sorry they're just very creative um i will say uh what you call angus mcfad and it's up
i think it's this point when he shoves him down this hole he's like time for kangaroo stew and i'm like
dude, sign me up for kangaroos
too, FYI. Oh, absolutely. I would definitely
eat any mammal
on earth. You think
kangaroos, really? I think I would
eat kangaroos, too, for sure.
Even more so than monkey pizza. Monkey pizza's
a little too much. It's a little too close.
Yeah, exactly. This is like, this is like a dog.
Yeah.
But you're not eating a dog, dude?
No, but I know of.
I will.
Steve Sadec dog eater.
kangaroo stew for sure man
it's stewed it sounds good it's got rich as americans kangaroo burger i say
burger over stew fucking ground that fucker up
listen here let's just we'll do this we'll get a little feedback we have a nice
uh you know ever growing uh audience down under right you fuckers eating kangaroo's down there
what right into the we hate movies mailbag we all hate movies at gmail.com
right into that if you are from down under and you have experienced with
eating kangaroos. Also, let's put up a poll on our Twitter that'll run for a week. It's at
W.HM podcast on Twitter. Let's put the poll up and see if you would eat kangaroo meat.
Absolutely. I like it. I like it. So we can continue dragging out references to this movie.
For as long as possible. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and that whole thing with them dropping through
this spike shaft, it looks terrible. And this.
is definitely where you if they're in a sticky situation like this this is where you need those
brilliant ninja turtle one-liners like yes yes these things to have some sort of rapport with
each other it's just like oh no we're going to be chopped up now we're not exactly like then
because the the you can make one that's a nervous one and he's like oh no we're gonna get
chopped up and then the cool one's like i guess it's time for some fucking kangaroo salad you know this
This is something you could do, law brothers.
Yeah, all that
Absolutely. The little shoutouts they give each other
like make no sense. It's like,
is your spirit okay?
Get your hair up.
I mean, I need someone to check it on my spirit.
It's been a fucking year of quarantine.
Please ask you my spirit's okay.
Mine is gone and been replaced.
That's my working theory.
I think my spirit was replaced by the spirit
of a kangaroo, honestly.
That's why.
Dude. That's why you don't want to eat
him. Dude, actually, holy
shit. Now you just inspired
I got to get a note to David Cronenberg
as soon as possible.
Or maybe Brandon actually, he's doing more interesting
stuff these days. But
a movie where
one of us idiots, right, is like
oh yeah, kangaroo stew, let's eat a kangaroo.
And then they eat the kangaroo, right?
Maybe it's a burger, maybe it's a stew, maybe it's on a pizza,
whatever. We'll figure it out later.
Or when the Law Brothers team up
the screenplay with us. And so here's what happens, right? He eats the kangaroo and then
this motherfucker starts turning into a kangaroo himself. And this is where it gets Cronenbergian,
right? The first thing to develop, it's just a dude that just starts getting a patch,
just a pouch, like a gooey kangaroo pouch. Nice. Yeah. Fuck, I'm turning into a kangaroo.
He starts watching this movie and Kangaroo Jack nonstop for some reason. Oh, fucking dip into my
pouch. No, dude. He's like, he starts jumping all over the place. He's boxing people. He's boxing people.
You know.
Nah, no, Mrs. Allen, I'm sorry.
I think your daughter is curtains for her.
See, they're starting to think about opening up a kangaroo restaurant.
I don't know what exactly to tell you.
They aren't paying me.
I think I'm going to leave today for the...
I've been here for three weeks without pay, and I think I'm going to leave now.
They're talking about making kangaroo steaks.
I don't know what that means.
Yes, it's going to be filled with memorabilia from their kangaroo.
movie, okay? They
have a bunch of it. Nobody wanted
it. Hello. Hello, Planet
Hollywood. Yeah, it's Ellen from
the doctor's law office.
Yeah, we're going to need all of
that Warriors of Virtue memorabilia back.
We're opening up our own sort of like,
fun little kitschy kangaroo-themed
kind of diner. So we want to decorate
the place with the stuff that we gave you guys.
So we just need that. What's that?
Oh, you threw it immediately in the garbage.
Oh, got it. No, no, Mrs.
Ellen, yeah, yeah. They're going to call it
kangaroo jacks i told them that that movie was not that popular when it came out they are insistent
that that's going to be the name of their kangaroo restaurant franchise they were talking about
three of them i really i've lost all will to live here's a question um which uh kangaroo
centric movie do you think is more loved by the the film going public this or kangaroo jack
What has more watches?
What has more like DVD purchases?
Kangaroo Jack, I think people know, at least in the United States, more than this.
Yes.
And you've got your, what do you call it there?
Anthony Anderson.
And you've got who's very popular.
Jerry O'Connell is marginally popular, you know?
That's true.
That's true.
Was anybody of note voicing Kangaroo Jack, I guess is the question.
By understanding, and I've never seen the movie, I think he doesn't talk really except for one dream sequence.
Oh, is that right? Can I tell you, there is one, there is precisely one time, and I remember this shockingly, pretty vividly, we tried to watch that at the old Astoria place, and I was lit. And when I tell you, I think I fell asleep on your guy's couch, like before the fucking kangaroo even showed up. Like, that is how fast I passed out during that movie. That makes sense, because I don't remember this either at all.
kangaroo jack
voice
uncredited
Adam Garcia
all right so nobody
uh
well nobody
whoa nobody
you're calling the man who played
Kevin O'Donnell and Coyote
ugly nobody
are you calling the man who played
Italian fan in murder
on the Orient Express
nobody yes yes I
Andrew is as well
but yes I am too
well he's done more than me
I'll say that much
to
to give this movie
a little bit of nice
just a little bit of something
trying to save my own
my own kangaroo soul here
around here is where
Komodo like runs in screaming
totally fucking coked out
he's getting his dick sucked by a ghost
or something
I don't know what's going on
and he starts fighting
he starts fighting with Master Chung
and the fight scene that these two guys have
is actually, I think, pretty cool.
Okay.
Do any of you remember the fights scene?
Not very, barely, but yes, I kind of do.
I do have a note.
It lasts a really long time.
We're jumping on, like, different platforms and stuff.
It's exciting.
It's not bad.
It's at least it's something.
I do have a note, though, that you can't use negative kung.
You have to use positive kung.
Is that anything?
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not going to touch that.
Because I don't know if it is or not because it's a movie with talking kangaroos in it.
So I don't know, you know, up is down, left is right, dude.
This is actually harder than performing any type of surgery.
It says you need to positive kung to have the power to do the right thing.
And this is good kong.
I will say, you know what, a Forge and Fire fan here, I like Komodo's sword.
It's a good looking sword, you know, it's got a cool hook on it, you know?
Oh, yeah, it is a little hook sword.
I like a hook sort
He does
What do you think
What do you think
The tang on that
Would be
You want to go for a
Thru Tang there
Because you don't want
The scales on the
On the handle to break
Got it
Got it got it
That's good to know
Good note
Good note
No no yeah
I think your grandson's
Gonna die
You see
They've just been watching
Forge and fire
And eating Domino's pizza
It's like
Things are on fire
In the office
I don't know why I'm still here
They forge their own scalples
yeah someone tell this fake receptionist to stop answering the phone
there is a thing in this fight though that was a massive laugh out loud moment for me
is the um barbiturate or whatever that lady's name is she she goes after ryan and he falls
over and he grabs a bunch of shit looking mud and shoves it in this woman's mouth
that did it for someone right moment in film history at one point so then master chun gets
killed here and you get to see those beads finally hit the floor dude this old bastard gets
fucking bodied by this guy it's amazing he drops like a column on him is it like he like cuts
his head open or something it's you don't see it but there's like a scar on his face well
there's a weird like comodo uses his sword i think to cut
right through like a big
like cement column or something
and it totally like falls on him
I think. Yeah. That sounds familiar.
It all looks terrible
absolutely terrible
but that's what I understood it to be
was this column kind of fell on him
and he maybe got a head injury or something
but yeah this dude eats shit
right here. He's like whispering
something to Komodo about like
you know you should probably start
thinking about being a good guy. Okay
boys. And I think at this point
Ryan is kidnapped and brought back to
Komodos where he's like sort of
pseudo sexually tortured
by Marley Sheldon for a second there
right? Dude, Alicia is
really hooting out in this scene.
I mean, this, it's
like not a movie
that should have sexuality in it at all.
And then all of a sudden, like,
here comes this bountiful bosom.
You're like, wait, what movie is?
And this kid, this kid is pulling
multiple get a good look of stanzas.
He absolutely is.
I caught this kid sneaking a peek.
Yeah.
You know, actually sneak in a peak is a little harder than performing search.
These fucking people.
I'm sorry.
Just, wow, what a movie.
Thank you, Ryan, in Indiana.
But they, but yeah, at this point, she explains that, yes, you hadn't killed my brother.
Therefore, I can't, I spit on the floor when I see a kangaroo.
Now I fucking can't stand the sight of kangaroos.
She would eat them.
She would eat them.
maliciously. And he starts freaking out. This kid, this kid right here starts acting like this is his Al Pacino moment. He's screaming at this woman. He's like, you set me up, Alicia. You said you were my friend. You broke my heart. Fraydo. I do love that everyone betrays this kid. Over and over. Yep. His mother, Komodo, Alicia, Master Young, or Master Chung, rather. And this,
This is where Komodo starts sort of teasing him with this like, you know, I'm pretty all powerful.
We take the manuscript back to the real world.
Let's go home with your new leg.
You know, he's really trying to sell this kid on like maybe making the football team.
And at this point, I think that he tries to kill the kid and Alicia stops him because she let her heart grows to repeat three sizes.
and then barbiturates kills her.
And I'm like, who's even on Wu's side anymore?
And then, and then Komoto kills barbiturates.
And I'm like, who's anyone anymore?
Who's good?
Who's bad?
I guess I do part of me, part of the fantasy reader and me, I know this doesn't really
apply to anything, but like this whole like dark emperor that Angus McFadden is kind
of trying to play here.
And the whole like the court turning on each other would be something if this was written
better. I'm sorry it's not it's it's not it's not as easy as surgery but this is written a little bit
better. It might have been an interesting turn. Maybe but like he has to have some menace and it's just
he's like elite singer for a prog rock band. Yeah. Like it's not it's not like it's just kind of
dancing around and screaming. He's having too much fun. I was actually thinking cab and he kind of in
some scenes, uh, Angus McVadden kind of looks like Gerard Way. Yes. Like just the little the little is bit.
The reason also that Komodo starts attacking this kid and trying to kill him is because he's like, oh, you're like the chosen one.
So you're the only one that can actually read from the manuscript.
You're the only one that can see the text on the manuscript.
Tell me what it says.
Read the words.
And this kid just goes, shit happens.
Oh, yeah.
And they're like, shit happens.
Shit happens.
Shit happens.
I cannot believe.
And he like freaks out.
We get at least five shit happens.
And somehow this is PG.
I don't know about that.
Not okay.
Not all right.
I think slap a 13 on this, motherfucker.
And this is sort of, I guess
Komodo then goes to confront
all of the Warriors of Virtue
and splits in five.
Didn't see this coming because I did no idea
what even happened. Well, I mean, he's
been kind of shown as like being
a mage-esque figure. So I guess
doing all these doppelgangers is
something. I don't know. You got
General Grillo in the gang. Get them
going. Yeah. But
Yeah, what's the Grillo gang up to?
If you're trying to present this guy's magic, though, you don't get the money to make it look good.
I guess doppledangers.
Well, this is, this is, this is where the plague of wet blood happens.
We're like, they're all getting their ass kicked by Angus McFade and like, yeah, they just, they cut to them and they've got like bloody nose, but like, it's much wetter than it should be.
I'm sorry, much wet than thin and wet.
I don't like it.
Yeah, it's a bad, it looks like, you know, it looks like Chris, like if you're doing, um,
Like if you're painting and you've got like red paint on your paintbrush and you're like, oh, I'm going to wash off this paintbrush here.
And you put it like in a little jar water.
The color of that like pseudo reddish water, that's what this blood look.
That's the fucking consistency of it.
It's so late.
I was just shocked to see these kangaroos bleed.
I did not.
I did not think we would get there with this movie.
So it's kind of appreciated.
I believe the turtles bleed in that first movie when they get the shit.
them by the shredder.
Am I wrong?
I think you're right.
I think you're right.
Yes.
I think there's a scene where someone's healing in a tub or something.
Yeah.
Well, that's that's Raphael.
Bring Ralph some food.
When we do that episode, when we do that episode finally, are you going to start
crying, Steve?
I will.
I am literally as I, and if you follow me on Twitter, you know, you're aware of this.
I'm staring at all four digit turtles right now and it's great.
That's awesome, dude.
Uh, so turtle soup out of the question for you.
Oh, no, absolutely.
Fuck those guys.
Oh, you would eat, you would eat turtle soup.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, good.
It sounds, I mean, that was the thing that was a huge in the 20s and stuff, and now you can't get it anymore.
Now that makes me even more interested to eat it.
Yeah.
Yeah, but aren't like, listener, I would eat you.
You put mayonnaise on you.
I would eat you.
Absolutely.
I think the thing with turtles, and this might also go for kangaroos, I don't know, but like aren't, at least some.
kinds of turtles and some kangaroos
like endangered at least isn't that part of
me? Oh I'm sure. I'm not saying any of this is
moral or okay. Yeah. It just makes it taste better when they're
endangered. Yeah. Come on. I mean,
there is nothing better than a deep fried
dodo. They're delicious. They're fantastic. That's why they're
gone. Yeah. Because they were so good.
I mean, here's
the thing. You know, we're talking about how
Komodo split into five people and is now
fighting them all in a separate scene.
that actually feels like the same scene
because all the kangaroos look the same
and he's dressed exactly the same
so it's all one thing
but we're forgetting
the absolute worst line in this movie
that kicks this whole thing off
where
where Komodo
sees them come in
and he wants to pick the fight
and he goes
Warriors come out and play
yay
oh kiss my ass
kiss my ass kiss my ass kiss my ass
kiss my ass
awful. So did Comodo
live in
America in the 1970s
and then saw
that great movie and then
fell in the hole? Is that what happened? And they started
sucking up life springs. I think that's going to happen.
I think what happened, dude, was he went and saw the
Warriors, right? And then this bully was like,
hey, we just saw a great
gang movie. It's time for your
initiation. And they were trying to make
Komodo, whose real name at the time was just
Greg. You know, Greg
Johnson. And Greg Johnson was
trying to cross the same pipe path.
He fell in the fucking toilet and now he's
Komodo. That makes sense.
But yeah, he did see the Warriors in theater.
I do think it would have been nice
if Komodo had like five like
somehow glass Pepsi bottles
on his fingers while he's
doing it. Yep, sure
dude. Absolutely. There is
some weird in the
Alicia getting
a little sexy scene. There's a weird
thing where Komodo
is like, okay, like you got
me this kid now here's what
you've been waiting for here's your reward and
it's like a bottle of like
fuck juice. Yes I want to know what that thing is
it looks like a dildo first
all it really does like a dildo that she drinks out of. The bad dragon
productions for sure. Yes
and she's like
she's like drunk and horny
like instantly I don't know what that shit
was that's a whole that you know that was
the one brother that was like why don't
we make it a little dirty
oh Dennis
stop it this is a kid's movie
the law brothers only make family content yes i know we've bankrupted all of our practices
writing this beautiful script together but like honestly wasn't it worth it for a little like
pieces like this horny juice you know they should rename practices to perfects because i don't
want to be part of a practice session here i'm going to take that on the road soon i did
I honestly think writing this movie does break their Hippocratic Oath, for sure.
Of course, this does harm.
Because it does a lot of harm.
Yep.
Yep, it's straight up harm.
They have done so much harm.
Licenses revoked, fellas.
Get a new position.
Just not screen,
screenwriters.
So this is the end of the movie, which is so muddy and confusing.
Because like I said, because there's five fucking kangaroos, they all look the same.
They're all covered in blood, uh, fighting five Angus McFens.
and somehow Ryan sacrifices himself
something something and all the medallions
which I didn't know were a thing up to this point
merge and now we're Mighty Morphid
power ranging a little bit
sure yeah it is slightly confusing
I think what the deal is is because
there is also a master trying force ghost that kind of comes in
for a second and he's because this kid's crying
I was laughing at this little kid
he's all upset in tears he's like
How can I help the ruse?
Great line for Andrew to be laughing at.
But yeah, I think the whole thing is he's like, so listen, you know, if, you know, when you take a life, you lose part of your power.
So if you're harming somebody, you're losing your power.
So the kid distracts Komodo to use, like, his power against this kid, like, killing him and thus, like, weakening his own life force, I guess.
And that allows the ruse to sneak in and fuck this dude up some.
somehow.
Because his defenses are down.
Anyway, that's what they told me before they left.
This place is empty now.
I don't really understand it.
I don't want to see the movie when it's finished,
but I'm going to go now, goodbye.
Oh, no, I can't save your son.
I have no medical training.
No, no, no, ma'am.
I'm sorry.
I do know that there's a crematorium about two blocks that way,
if you just want to drop him off there.
But you know, I could turn his dick into a hot dog without help,
home.
some testicle meatballs there babe see what you like
there's a weird thing and I think actually this one
very confusing line in this movie may lend credence to
the theory that Komodo was actually just Greg Johnson in the
1970s because there's there's a line where he's
I don't know if he's screaming at the kid or is he screaming at these
kangaroos or what but it's either a I'll see you in
or go to hell
Yeah. And just the idea that this guy, Komodo, is even familiar with the concept of Christian hell.
You know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking this is Greg Johnson.
Uh-huh. It's Greg Johnson from Brunswick, New Jersey. He fell in the toilet.
Because when they defeat him, he turns into a nice version of himself.
I think, yeah. I think this goes back to the negative kong and the positive kong. So if you knock the
negative kung out of him. He's just like amnesiaed. I guess so. It's kind of like the end of Ghostbusters
too and Ray Stance and Janos Pohar like nice again and and they don't remember like what went
down. Because he's also apparently he has his memory wiped. He's walking around like,
where am I? Yes. I don't but I just, you know what? This is a problem with the writing. I just,
I don't want anybody walking around talking about my kung. Whatever it happened. I don't care if it's
positive or negative. Just don't be talk
about what my kong is.
It's really disgusting.
Don't talk about slinging it either.
I went back and I turned on the
subtitles because there was a scene where like the
force ghost of Master Chung tells
him about, or maybe it's not the force ghost.
There's a force ghost fake out.
I think it actually turns out being Komodo in disguise.
Yeah. This is an earlier moment where he's talking
about the kong. And I was like, I got to put on these
subtitles because is this old guy,
are they talking about Kum right now?
I was so certain they were saying,
Oh, you have to have positive come and not negative.
Listen, Ryan, when you get really excited, Ryan.
What's going to come out of you?
They're going to be positive and negative.
And you know what?
You want to make it positive.
I want to go home.
No, you're not allowed.
This is the birds and the bees.
Now, cung for me.
Oh, man.
I just have a line.
that says wait magic medallions like honestly because this is where they do they
be like captain planet esk like with our powers combined this is how they finally defeat him
because yeah it's just like oh wait should we use our power yeah let's use our power sure
and again yeah this has never been I mean maybe it was but I thought I was paying attention
I never heard about these medallions before this nope it never happened it didn't happen
and you could have done this
50 minutes ago and defeated Komodo.
Yeah, before your master die.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
It could have been done in an afternoon.
Before we measured Kung.
There's a weird, I mean, and what happens to him,
like after those medallions do whatever,
it's a weird, like, a portal opens,
and then this dude, Komoto's, like, melting, sort of.
And then this is some bad CGI here, too.
he turns into like F grade Terminator liquid metal for like a split second and then explodes into light and disappears and then yeah he comes around a corner later like just kidding I'm here I'm fine I'm nice now I do appreciate that the room and are like hey man like when come out is like I've lost I don't know who I am or whatever like where is my home and the room in to their credit are like this is your home friend
like let's rebuild a better society
in the ashes together. So I appreciate
that little piece of companion from the Ruman.
Yeah, sure. I mean, and it happens with General Grillo
too. There's a line where some guy is like, one of the ruse
is like, General Grillo, it is over. Join us now
in peace. Yes. Like, yeah, he gives up the whole army
of guys, like they all take off their
general grillo. You don't have to
you don't have to always put it,
crush a man's head with a television set
like all your crimes and Henry
Portrait of a serial killer.
You can join us.
Oh man.
And then yeah, like the one
ye who doesn't talk ever
talks at the end and says
thank you to Ryan. And he just
the kid just kind of like bounces
back into right where
he left off. Like right when this kid is
saying let's make like Tom and Cruz,
is there's no like how are we going to get you back we have to do this you know lightning's
going to strike the clock tower at this time like nothing about how this kid's going to go
bad because he's dying or dead or something and everyone you know everyone thanks him and the one
speaks and then all of a sudden he's just back in the moment before he even walked on the
plank in the toilet factory so it's like what was that a fantasy at first you're like oh
you know maybe he's in a coma and whatever this is a magical journey
that he gets to go through.
But no, it's before.
So it's like he just has like a weird moment.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think he was slipped acid at the Chinese restaurant.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe he didn't want to hit that soon, which annoyed him.
But yeah.
Well, while he was in Tao, he learned to not take chances.
So he's like, I'm not going to do this now.
I'm going to avoid this.
And he was right to do that.
You're right.
How does he come upon learning this lesson?
That makes no sense.
Great moral lessons right here in this moment.
He should complete the journey across the pipe,
take the spray can from Brad and throw it in the toilet, right?
Like, that's the thing.
Like, I'm not vandalizing my community.
Or push Brad into the water pool next to your father's corpse,
and then they are both dead, and then you run away.
He goes home, and,
you know, the mother gets home from work and is tucking him in and she's like,
how was your night? And this kid, man, God damn it, sucks. He just, he just goes,
virtuous. And she has to be like, she has to be like, how did you learn what that word is?
What I mean? Who taught you that? Every night she comes home and is disappointed to find her son
alive. That's kind of what's going on. Oh yeah. You get to throw another one, huh?
What did you do what I fully told you to do?
Virtuous, huh?
But you said virtuous, you had a good, okay.
You know, have you ever tried drinking what's underneath the sink?
You know, it's a lot of tasty flavors down there.
I do not keep it locked.
The kid also knocking this mom a little bit, too.
She's like, so do you sell a house tonight or what?
And then she's like, she's like, yeah, you know, I sell.
I sold 12 of them.
We're set for life now.
Oh, my God, this upside-down mortgage I'm in.
Oh, I'm so fucked.
I'm so fucking underwater.
I hate this kid.
He won't accidentally kill himself.
Yeah, no, I sold 12 houses.
Hey, why do you stay with Aunt Jenny for a little while and don't knock on the door?
Oh, and Ryan, no funeral.
What?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Just don't worry about it.
Stay away from the kitchen for a while.
So then like this kid, you know, his buddy is his puppy Bravo, you know, he's like, hey, Bravo, do you want to hear about Tao?
And I wish the dog could talk in this moment and just be like, maybe tomorrow morning, Ryan, hoping that he will forget to tell him about it.
Absolutely not. That sounds really stupid. You should stick to your medical career, Ryan.
Oh, fuck, man. That is the end of this movie. What a.
Well, it's a wretched undertaking, I have to say.
Awful.
It's terrible.
I didn't enjoy it.
I did not enjoy it.
So many people had to say yes to this.
A lot of people.
A lot of people had to do it.
And then there was a sequel five years after this.
Oh, yes.
Chris, you said you saw this sequel.
So please fill us in.
There was another one of these made in 2002 return to Tao.
And there's no kangaroos in it.
What?
There's, there's, there's,
footage from there's footage of the kangaroos from this movie used in the very
right in the beginning but at the end they come back like most of it is grown up
idiot uh Ryan um in China like trying to like beat like another villain and like find
what happened to the Warriors and then they come at the end it's just a bunch of people
they turn it just dude it's a bunch of people yes it's people interesting so does this
mean comodo one?
Possibly. I don't know.
He's not addressed in the sequel, I imagine.
I don't, no. No, there isn't.
There's not much of anything other than like the warriors are gone.
We'll find the warriors in the last 15 minutes because of budgetary constraints.
That probably shouldn't be in the script.
But, oh man, you left the line in about budgetary constraints.
That's unfortunate.
But yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
how worse than this, uh, and yeah.
But wait a minute. So those, the people at the end, so it's actually supposed to be like
Yi and Yun and all of the, the stupid, really? The stupid metal rings. Some guy, some fat
guys got them and is throwing them. Wait, so are the, is there any explanation of like,
oh, the curse was lifted or? Not really. Like, do they acknowledge that they're not like, like,
is, because if it's the same kid, if it's Ryan, is he not like, hey, why don't you guys look
like kangaroos anymore? Well, there's all, there's also,
some character that I assume is
supposed to be the Elysia
character, but her name's
Amethyst? And, like, they
have some history that I have no idea
where it came from.
Oh, wait, but Elysia eats shit
in this movie. Why is it the same person?
So she's, like, but, like, there's somebody
there who's, like, who knows him
and is acting like what Elysia would be
doing. Oh, weird.
That's dumb. Wow, what
a dumb thing. Who could, who would
have thought that there would have been a worse
idea than Warriors of Virtue, but it is indeed Warriors of Virtue too.
What's the subtitle there? There's got to be something. It's just returned to Tao.
Oh, yeah, Warriors of Virtue. The Return to Tao. Here it is. Oh, oh, would you look at that?
Directed by one of the fucking ace screenwriters of this. Oh, nice, dude. What a shock. That is a little
easier than surgery, actually. You know, actually liquidating your family
savings in your house and everything that you're, you know, your great, your father and your mother
left you to make a sequel, you know, that's harder than surgery. Chris, can I ask you something
now? Michael Vickerman, the director of this sequel, also plays a character that's credited as
Irish Muppet. Uh-huh. Do you remember this character? It's actually credited as Muppet, M-U-P-P-E-T.
Weird. That does not.
stick out to me but who knows
well because the
here's something though right because the ninja turtles
at least in that first
movie right was Henson Workshop
the second one definitely was too actually
yeah oh my God sorry there's a Scottish
Muppet as well
okay
but wait a second though
these terrible kangaroos are not
the Henson company right
no no no they couldn't they could not
be okay the dentist company
listen i am not going to bother to ask if we would recommend this movie obviously we would know right
no slight recommend oh hold the phone i think if you're you're you're you're imbibing it's
kind of almost a fun mess it is just wow but but that you know i like watching some bad movies
we got a bad movie podcast kind of here or at least that was the origins so it is an onslaught of
terrible, but it's kind of fascinating a lot.
I would, yeah.
An onslaught of terrible.
That is for the fucking poster, dude.
I disagree, but you know, to each their own.
I just, I wish it was a little campier, a little weirder.
It just, once you actually get to the, the, the kangaroo place, it just gets really muddy, confusing, and less fun that I'd like it to be.
Yeah, I mean, it's a no for me.
It's, it's, and when I say light, I mean, very light, you have to be.
totally wasted.
Sort of like I am right now.
I mean, listen,
if they had gone with my idea,
which is also just a rip off
of the Masters of the Universe movie, right?
Like, bring them into the real world,
total fish out of water shit.
Like, I don't know.
That's, that to me is something.
If you have these kangaroos, you know,
get that product placement in.
You know what I mean?
They're in a Burger King parking lot.
Sure.
You know, they're chow and down like,
wow, whoppers, these are great.
give them
personalities also
that's something on the wish list
you got to have these creatures
with personalities
you know
maybe then there's a movie
maybe that is what
warriors of virtue
the return to Tao
should have been
it should have been
the return to
wherever the shit
America this kid is from
and you go from there
I don't know how they miss that
bringing these things into the real world
that's the movie
and you just pay a little extra
and have like MC Light
do something like Roo rap
or like
puff daddy
gets something
I don't know
depends on how much
money the Law Brothers
have
I want to say
also just really
quickly because
it's hysterical
and I tried
to search around
for it a little
bit couldn't find
too much on it
but on the
Wikipedia page
under the reception
section
so
Gene Siskel
won voted thumbs
down
and described
Warriors of Virtue
as quote
generic junk made for the
international action market, a cheap hybrid
of Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles.
Totally right on. There was another
critic, Kale Klein,
of the Carlsbad
current Argus. What?
That apparently...
Is that a... Sangeroo Land? Is this
where that's from? Is that a press
from a spaceship?
Yeah, I mean, sometimes newspapers
have really dumb names, and this is one of them.
The current Argus.
This person was so distressed.
In the press screening, watching this movie, they actually vomited in the screening room, which is incredible, if true.
I mean, it's true.
Huge of true.
I mean, there's disgusting room in.
There's talk about hot dog penises.
I could see vomiting at this film.
Absolutely.
And like, as I said, the wet blood, it's just disgusting.
And like I would, I could see vomiting at that alone.
So I get it. I get it, buddy, or what Kevin Klein or whatever his name is.
Kevin Klein, I guarantee you. Kevin Klein has never seen this movie. I guarantee you.
Me and my wife, Phoebe, really did not care for our Warriors of Virtue.
She held it together, but I threw up all over our living room.
I was just going to say he would be a beautiful man to watch Throw Up. That's all.
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gang. We got a lot of
road to cover here on our travel, Steve.
So what are we going to be talking about
next week? Will it still be a movie
from 1997? No, thankfully
it won't be. We'll be talking
about Poultergeist to the
other side, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah. Get ready for a Craig T. Nelson.
Child.
What's her face? Zelda Rubinstein. Of course
she returns. She better.
She fucking better. I'm actually.
Actually, I have to say, I think Poltergeist 2 is the title I'm most excited for.
Because it is the most, it is the most of a movie any of these selections.
I've actually never seen it.
So I will watch it and then I'll talk about it.
That's excellent, dude.
That is what we are known to do here on Lee Hate movies.
So until next week, where we're getting a little spooky with Poltergeist 2.
I'm Andrew Jupin.
Steven Sadek.
Eric Siska.
Chris Cabin.
Take it easy.
That was a hate gum podcast.
