We Hate Movies - S11: Episode 537 - Poltergeist II: The Other Side

Episode Date: March 16, 2021

On this week's program, the tide starts to turn on the 2021 Listener Request Month as the guys chat about a movie that's almost kind of a movie: Poltergeist II: The Other Side! Wasn't it pretty silly of JoBeth's character to completely forget that not only does she have psychic abilities, but she actually comes from a long line of psychics?! Is Craig T. Nelson's character making Will Sampson's "Taylor" sleep outside? And is there any truth to the dreaded Poltergeist Curse? PLUS: What the heck happened with Craig T. Nelson's magic haircut? Poltergeist II: The Other Side stars Craig T. Nelson, JoBeth Williams, Heather O'Rourke, Will Sampson, Zelda Rubinstein, Oliver Robbins, Geraldine Fitzgerald, and Julian Beck as "Kane;" directed by Brian Gibson. Advertise on We Hate Movies via Gumball.fm Unlock Exclusive Content!: http://www.patreon.com/wehatemovies See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this week on the program. You ever see Craig D. Nelson puke up a giant worm? I bet that shit didn't happen on Coach. It's Poltergeist too. I'm Andrew Juppin. Stephen Sadek, child. Eric Siska. Chris Cabin.

And we hate movies. Hello, Hello, everyone, welcome to We Hate Movies. Thank you for tuning in, as always. That's right. The listener request month is just chugging along. we are, Poultergeist 2, also known as Poultergeist 2, colon, the other side from 1986 directed by Brian Gibson, who you may remember as the director of What's Love Got to Do With

It? And previous episode, The Juror, Roar. Also known as Poultergeist 2, a real movie, which is a nice change for listener request month. Absolutely, man. This movie fucking stinks, but it's a movie. It's an actual daggum movie. I argue that, but fine, more of a movie than The Pest for sure. That was literally the bit, Chris Cabin. I think what's the fuck of Warriors of Virtue? No, much more of a movie than this. No, absolutely not.

What are you smoking? This is a bunch of scenes just fucking jammed together with the name Poltergeist 2 at the top. Chris, you didn't find any moment scary. I particularly was frightened at the start of the film with this lion is roaring at a Yes, the very scary lion. His name is M. M. M. Gem. M. Gem. That's

the name of the line. M.G.M. There's a haunted lion at the beginning of your movie, child. There could be. Oh, no. You're all the lions roaring from beyond the grave. He's a dead lion. They filmed. Yes. Well, he's dead now. Yeah, he was alive

at the time, to be fair. They filmed it, and then, like, what happened? Thomas Edison electrocuted it to death or something. Yeah, yeah, because they're making movies out there. We're going to fry some animals next. It's policy. Mr. Mayor started this policy. We keep a lion in a very small cage for the entirety of its life and record a new one every 10 years.

Wouldn't shock me if that was the actual policy at MGM. Who knows? Yes, even when I'm dead. We killed the lion. Of course, this is the sequel to the smash Toby Hooper directed and Steven Spielberg interfered with a poltergeist film Yeah you know what

Steven Spielberg just let Toby do his thing man Get the fuck out of here Thanks thanks for Thanks for tricking George Lucas Into freely licensing all that Star Wars shit In the first movie God that first movie's got so much Star Wars stuff One thing particularly stood out to me

Was the C3PO light switch And we're in that end of that movie Where everything's happening in the kids room And like people are framed at the doorway watching and freaking out and I just keep watching C3PO on the wall It's distracting as fuck Toby I don't want to tell you your business

You're the horror guy I'm just you know A billionaire I think this room would be a little scarier With a C3PO light switch Think about it Oh master you're so good at turning me on Oh thank the maker indeed This oil bed is gonna feel so good

Yeah, dude. Right when it hits C3PO's fucking metal nuts, he says that. Anyway, Poultergeist. Sure. Deuce. Poulterge's dues. Before we get off on a rant here, Steve, I think this was requested by someone, and we do have a phone call here lined up. We're going to hear it together. We're going to listen. We're in real time here. Let's see. How many requests do we get for Poultergeist, too, just out of curiosity? One. Wow. This person should, wow, let's listen here, but this person needs to fucking enter the lottery, ASAP. Hello, gentlemen. I'm Gary Dean Roberts from Birmingham, Alabama, and I would like to request a movie this March, and I am shocked that you guys had not covered poltergeist to the other side. I mean, come on. This movie has everything. A flying chainsaw, an evil preacher, a vomit monster. It's got clairvoyance, cultists, shaman, zombies, killer braces.

it's got Native American mysticism for no reason and best of all gentlemen it's got Craig T. Nelson beat throting a bottle of tequila. It's got so much and so little at the same time. It's Walter Geist too, the other side. I'm Jerry Dean Roberts from Birmingham, Alabama, and I'll see you on the other side.

That is, wow. Wow. Correspondent. I like it. Was he at a desk tapping cards when he was doing that? That's the best fucking call we've ever had. Back to you in this. studio. Good for you, Gary Dean. I would also not give out your whole fucking name and address

there, Gary Dean. You know what? That's up to them. We can't, we can't stop them if they want to, you know, get, I don't know what would happen to them. What would happen to them, Steve? This is Gary Dean Roberts in Birmingham, Alabama, 1614 Robin Hood Way. You just got to go past the Exxon Station, make a left. And I leave my door. Hey Roberts. Bang. And then the, yeah, the podcast assassins will come out of the woodwork. They will. Now, you might think that the key rock is actually the third one from my

entrance. It's actually the fifth one. That's one you're going to turn over and find it. Then, like, say you from the other side. Gentlemen, I'll be a ghost by the time this episode comes out. Gary Dean Roberts, see you on the other side. Hey, and real quick, in case you get to my house to murder me and I'm not home, this is

my work address. And I may also be visiting my ill mother and this is where she lives. I mean, we pretty much do this ourselves and we haven't been killed. I think he's going to be okay. I think it'll be just fine. The vault with the gun

in it is actually in the second bedroom and the code is 237, 8, 9. This is all a plot to become a ghost. Oh, maybe, dude. Yeah. Suicide by podcast. Exactly. Oh, man. Yeah.

Well, as as Gare mentioned, you know we do we start in the desert um will sampson of course from uh he's he played chief and one flew over the cuckus nest uh is you know out and about on this crazy is it a bute this very tall i don't know what they're on here it's very cool this desert be um has a little bit of a vision here there's a there's a guy who appears uh next to a fire he's doing a chant he sort of uh gives a Will Sampson's character like some powers to go

you know sort of like stocks up on energies and powers and things to go help assist in the ghosting there's a great he has a great look one time I think so he's there the guy shows up and then like there's some early magic like the first move and then he kind of gives it

was that it kind of look like so are we so are we good here I yeah I hiked all the way up this but for this this other Grampy there that guy's a ghost

huh yeah he's got to be a ghost disappears right he does either that or like he's so messed up

well Samson like it's just you've been there right like a guy is around and then he's just kind of gone and he's just like

what happened to Jerry oh you left Andrew he's been gone for 20 minutes oh I thought he's in the bathroom shit yeah he climbed

that whole rock he climbed that whole rock without any water there was a ghost and I got power oh I'm gonna die there's some cool mat paintings around this area

I should say in the opening credits here just to point out a nice like to say something positive about this bad movie Jerry Goldsmith returned to do the score and I like the music in this movie I have to say I am surprised so many people did return

I guess it's a paycheck but this, I feel like this series would have been better as an anthology type of thing. Give us a different haunting every movie. Absolutely. Oh, for sure. I like the idea of having one idea rather than 27. I mean, that's the thing. This movie is just like whatever is going to stick because like we go into a new route

to Native American route. It's not in the first movie specifically. And then, well, I love it that for the first movie where like they're just standing at a graveyard and like the guy who did the Pathmark commercial. commercials locally. It was just like, well, we did it before. Are we dug those fuckers up? We'll just move them back another 20 feet. Just keep moving them back. They won't mind none. Yeah, which is true. Yeah, apparently they will.

Yeah, I guess it turns out they got pissed off about it. They don't even move the bodies in their first one. You know, they just moved the headstones to a new location, which is right. That's right. And then they built the house on top. And that's got to be part of the insult, right? It's like, you took my fucking name tag and moved it you know I don't care I don't care if you move me but like if you're gonna just move the headstone that's some lazy shit contractors I was expecting in this movie to them like oh we're gonna give people like a proper burial or move them to that actual cemetery which exists that just has headstones apparently we're told and they they don't they just

leave everyone under this ghost town well no what what I here's my question that's great because that's kind of the next movement the first like 12 minutes silent, you know, Will Sampson goes, he sees Zelda Rubinstein, he goes to whatever Costa Verde or whatever the hell this complex is, and they go deeper. So my, because I think like there were ghosts in the pool, like literal ghosts popping up. I think a skeleton's popping up. I think this is like basically skeletons on top of skeletons, like three layers of skeletons. Right.

Yeah. Oh, I think so. It's a real skeleton sandwich. Exactly. a secret tomb below what would then be the cemetery. It's kind of interesting ground we get here with this Cain character being basically, I guess, Joseph Smith. Something like that. Yeah, like a cross between like Joseph Smith and Jim Jones, I guess.

Yeah. Smith was the Mormon guy? Yes. Correct. Okay, good. Yeah, I thought maybe I was talking about Pocahontas' dude. Like Meek from Meeks cutoff is also what I kind of got. a feeling for it.

Yes, exactly. Like, he just, like, is leading this band of people and they all starve to death. Which is cool, actually. Yeah, that's good. And I think this guy, Julian Beck, who plays Kane, is good. They definitely, he had stomach cancer and died shortly thereafter. And that was definitely part of his audition process. He was like, wow, I never got a big role like this in my life.

It's so, so crazy. And I'm sick. And you sure it's okay that I'm sick? Oh, it's very. very okay that you're sick. It's excellent. We're going to save so much money in the makeup department because this guy will be

dying on our camera. You know, I've been talking to all the other fellas who are auditioned for the role. They all have cancer too. It's fun. That's just a coincidence you say. Yeah, he attended the

premiere of this film as a ghost. Oh, man. Yeah, he died before he came out. He also at that point was saying at the door, let me in, let me in. Oh, man. It's raining out here outside the premiere.

Oh boy, why is it my co-getting wet? It's so great. We should talk about the poltergeist curse, right? That's, that's, this is part, he's definitely part of it. He's definitely part of it, right? The big famous thing, all three of these movies in the original franchise trilogy here

are all part of the he knew he was going to die, though, right? he did have the kids yeah um but the whole the whole thing like is from the first movie again cutting corners here and I I really hope there wasn't another uh Spielberg tip

to old Toby here but instead of prop skeletons they used fucking real skeletons for the pool scene and all that shit that's it's real dead bodies dude how do you how do you acquire such a thing I think you steal it from a medical college

that's crazy man and I think you're right I think still here's the thing Spielberg fool me twice he definitely was on the phone

with Landis during the Twilight Zone movie like oh come on John it's fine it's just a night shoot I do those all the time I think you're right dude

yeah he's like the mastermind behind every cinematic mishap well you know what it is though I think he's trying to like under the guise of being helpful, take out all

his contemporaries. Then I'll be the only one to direct the movies because they'll all be in jail. Although Lannis didn't go to jail, but... It's just, I'm imagining just at the end of all this, it's a sword fight between the Palmer and Spielberg. I knew you were bad

from the beginning, Stephen. I should have struck you down then. It's like Highlander if the guys couldn't pick up swords all the way. Why are these Scottish swords so heavy? Oh, God damn it. You have a fencing sword around here, Brian. But yeah, I mean, so they attribute the curse starting with that.

And, you know, shortly after the first movie was completed, actress Dominic Dunn was murdered. in a domestic violence situation and then this movie decides to really poorly handle that whole thing with that character and then yeah with this movie that dude of course had cancer and then died shortly after

Will Sampson died having open heart surgery shortly after this movie then in the third movie right Heather O'Rourke died tragically before they could finish it Zelda Rubinstein had to leave the shoot for weeks on end because her mother died during it i mean all of these crazy stories because stephen spielberg told toby hooper to uh use real

skeletons i think the franchise is cursed but the money ain't oh these haunted checks keep clearing child can't be blood money if they're already dead oh my god too bad i can't see any ghosts over these fat stacks You know, they don't tell you that you get a little token with each soul you eat. I got all these tokens. Scare me all you want, ghosts. I'm sleeping nice and deep on this big pile of money. Yeah, I hope you can find me in my second home, you ghost bitch. I bought another house.

Oh shit, ghost Here you're all following me To the docks But can you cross over And stand on water Because I'm getting on my big yacht I just bought you I also bought myself

A replicant A replicant Zelda to live in the other house In case you try to get me Now this is what I want A movie about someone so paranoid About being got by ghosts They set up like doppelgangers and shit dude do you think a ghost could tell if there was like a robot or like a saddam hussein as

dupe in the house i think they should be able to right because now ghosts they're like uh let's say uh i guess the soul of the the human husk that we're in yeah that's right this shouldn't the skin suit yeah they should immediately identify with other souls instead of just your fat you know human body yeah i would think so too i think they would be able but a clone quick question what we got a clone. That's a great question. And if you get a clone, let's say you clone me and I and the clone dies, does that clone have a ghost? And then do I have a ghost? And we have two ghosts of me? Because this is a great idea. Clown ghost. Ghost army, dude. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I think they pitched all this as part of the plot of Poultergeist too. And they only cut out a little

bit. They use most of it. Well, we should say this movie, I mean, it's a total hatchet job by the studio. It comes in at like 90 minutes almost exactly. Apparently the original cut was two hours and 21 minutes. Can you imagine watching

this movie for almost double the time? I think you could split the difference, get to a buck 45, and this movie would at least make some sense. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. But I wonder if that was like an assembly cut number or just like what he acted. Somebody actually come into the student,

but like, yeah, I got Poultergeist 2 for you. It's two hours and 20 minutes long. I think everybody's going to rush to the theater to see this one. Yeah, I don't believe that. I have a hard time believing that.

Well, here's the thing. I mean, look, the first movie is pretty, it's right up, it's two hours. It's right there. It's an hour and 54 minutes. Like,

I could see it being a thing where it's like the sequel's more loaded because it's the sequels you got to do more crazy shit or whatever i could see that easily going to 220 i just i don't but i feel like we were cutting movies down in sequels anyway like any time a sequel comes in they're like we wanted a little shorter than the last one if it's a bad sequel and this is that yeah yeah yeah i think the like the pacing is kind of a problem in this movie it feels very slow so i feel like you you tack on that extra like 20 something or what But at 30 minutes, then I think you're really just never leaving the station. Well, that's what I mean by this not really feeling like a movie.

Because like the whole middle of it is the is the mysticism stuff. Then it switches into all kinds of different shit. It really does. And like, I'm just like, where am I? Am I supposed to care about any of this? And I can't. I can't. There's no way I can.

So he meets, Will Simpson meets him, but Zeld Rubinstein. Yet they find a cave. I found the core. There's a prince. Like, this is a weird, here's the thing, right, ghost core. I think what I thought, the first time I saw this movie, this wasn't the first time I saw it, but with her like being at the site of the house from the first movie, and then Will Sampson is coming in, I was like, oh, is this like she actually has like a team of paranormal something

or other and like Will Sampson's her co-worker and it's like we've been chasing this spirit through the desert or whatever and honestly might be a more interesting turn for the movie it would be. If she was part of a guild that'd be great because you know like she would be calling Max von Sider and be like oh no I'm not interested in the suburbs no the Middle East is where I will go thank you very much

oh Father Marin himself could have been in this movie you say he's part of the guild I think got it okay they lose the what the other lady the drunk from the first movie who has her team of ghost catchers there

she's not even mentioned it all should have got Lynn Shea it was an interesting turn in that movie the first one because those were guys were kind of phony in a way and then they had to deal with a real thing kind of fish out of water thing but she's like you know what's her

character's Zelda Rubin's scene what's her character name again Tangina Tangina is so like ingrained in it that it's a different level of a player here. Right. Do we know also how much time is supposed to be from the first movie to this one? Not too much because they still haven't figured out their living situation. I think around a year possibly. You know, I think you're right because I think they have a phone call with the mortgage people and they're like, what do you mean? They just telling us the house

just disappeared and they're not going to give us our money back. Oh, right. All the thrilling The thrilling scenes of Craig T. Nelson dealing with the insurance company. But the reason I was asking is because So a year makes sense actually for this to happen because when Will Sampson pulls into the neighborhood it is like this bombed out

like all these for sale signs. Everybody is getting the fuck out of this neighborhood because the one house disappeared. And it's something they never really address like that other people are aware of what went down. But like clearly people are evacuating Quest of Verre. yeah at the end of the first movie people see what is happening and people are also kind of fleeing the town yeah we miss we miss the media blitz that happens after this where everybody's talking about the fucking house that disappeared and like that's what doesn't make sense about the insurance that of course they're going to pay out or they're going to be the biggest news story of the year hush money is what you're going to get it's interesting that like Craig t nelson in that movie is working for the guy that's set up the fucking town and then he And he still got this fucking anchor of a mortgage around his neck,

despite being one of the people selling these evil houses. It's weird. He got a shaft on this. It's a year out. There's still a hard copy fucking reporter on your front lawn every day. Absolutely there is. Well, that'd be a better sequel, actually. You get like one of the other people in this town.

Like maybe the kid grabbed a piece of like of DeBris as they moved out. and uh-oh, now we got a new haunted house kind of thing. Yeah, that's right. It's kind of vaguely related to the first one. A piece from the site and that's all you need. You're exactly right. Took one of them dumbass haunted toys or some shit that was left behind. Will Samson has a really great line delivery right here too because they go below and they see all the Skellingtons everywhere and he just goes to Tangina and he's like,

where's the family now? Like these people are Not out of the woods. Where the fuck did you send them? We got to find them right now. Brian, Brian, Brian, I'm just looking at this dummy budget. How much you're spending on fake skeletons? Let me let me let you in on a little secret here. Real skeleton. Look, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to get you in contact with my corpse guy. You're going to love this guy. You know what? He only eats rice. That's it. But he's a really interesting character. And he can get you corpses and skeletons in a just like that. Look, here's the thing, okay? Every incident of a skeleton in an Indiana Jones movie, real corpse.

It's a real deal. And I'm saving Paramount pictures. Tons of money. Every time he punched a guy, they died. It's all real. It's a real movie. We ran over people with those trucks.

You ever see the End of Raiders of the Lost Ark? I melted people with a flamethrower to get that effect. I had to have that guy swallow a stick of dynamite whose head exploded. It's just a lot cheaper that way. Look, I made jaws. What are they going to do? Say no to me?

Of course not. I get to melt a few people, get to explode a few people, shoot a bunch of people. Flame thrower rentals much cheaper than all that costly claymation. And I'm going to tell you something. My corpse guy, I pay him in used underwear. He's happy. It's a clam. Oh, man, this guy is a real sick ticket, dude. We cut to the family, and I guess they're up the road-ish.

They're close enough in driving distance at Grandma's house. Yes. Yeah. You get a look at what we're letting this little kid do here. Letting her make this disgusting sandwich. Oh, what was it in the sandwich again? I don't know, there's like Eminem's or shit in it. And like peanut butter or candy. fucking kids what are we doing what

stop it stop having them if if I had just left the house where my child had been possessed by an otherworldly demon and then watched

the house that she lived in ate by the air I might be like yeah eat your M&Ms and your fucking peanut butter and your goddamn marshmallows too go ahead and eat whatever the fuck you like

for the next at least three years I would say you're still possessed because just no human being would eat something like this. I agree with Chris, and my question is, how much therapy is this little girl getting? If it's under six hours a week, it seems a bit risky. In 1986, none. Yeah, exactly.

She's getting the junk food sandwich. She's not getting therapy. The junk food sandwich is the therapy. She was in an astral plane for like days, dude. You've got to get somebody to look at this girl. No, it was the junk food sandwich, and then she gets to always, whenever she wants, she can make a soda with all the different kinds of sodas. Wow.

Oh, yeah, I love doing that. Tastes like shit every time. The X-Files should be like dissecting her or something, right? Oh, yeah, the cigarette smoking man will be chasing after this girl. There's no doubt about it. Oh, that's actually a way to go too, right? Yeah. Government agency wants to see what she saw kind of a situation there.

Yeah. And then the ghosts help spring her. from prison and she thinks that they're kind of cool now and then it turns out they're not. Yeah, I'm of the mind that all this stuff was actually in the two hour and 20 minute cut. It doesn't explain anything more of what happens

in this movie. It's just more shit that doesn't make any sense. I guarantee we probably had more stuff with Kane in that longer cut. Well, the big like battle at the end. I mean, that's a thing, right? The subtitle of this movie is the other side. They are on

the other side for less than five minutes. in this movie. Yeah, I need a lot more other side. They're fighting that big fucking monster. And the other side. Very too much of this side, yes. And the other side isn't like as interesting. Like I was thinking of a movie clearly indebted to the

Polter guys movie is insidious. And when like when he goes to the other side and the first one, I'm like, that is a really wild scene. Yes. And like this scene, it's just like it happens and then they fight and then it's over. It's like there's no atmosphere to it really. Yeah. And I expected more from

the whole buildup of the native mysticism in this movie. I mean, jump into the end real quick. He just throws a lance in there. That's kind of like the extent of it. And like, well, I guess he knew how to go through the fire. We'll get there. But like, I feel like there was such a buildup. Yes.

We're sidelining Zelda Rubenstein here. And, and then building this guy up to do not much of anything. She also apparently had a big confrontation with Kane towards the end-ish of the movie. that they also cut and she was apparently furious because she was like really proud of the acting that she did in those scenes specifically and there's it's like two seconds in this movie

of like it's when she's making Joe Beth Williams look at those photographs and then he walks by outside but doesn't stop doesn't say anything to them and that's the end of it that was actually a much longer scene where she goes outside like you get the fuck out of here now

you understand what I'm saying child you get to step in you weird pastor looking motherfucker get out of here she was right this is good acting I didn't vote for Jimmy Carter and I don't like you oh boy that girl from the Wizard of Oz is yelling at me he really does have that peanut farmer accent

he does he sounds exactly like him well the weird thing is this is like a weird it's not a real voice what we're listening to it's a combination of the actor who was so weak that it was like you kind of sound like and then another guy who recorded all the lines he's credited on IMDB

as just doing the voice of Kane and they combined the two of them to make that voice yeah that's what we're dealing with here yeah it's fucking weird very weird but that's what I guess I guess it ultimately works towards the movie's

benefit because like it is so disorienting sometimes. He's good. I mean, he's a chilling presence. We should say, because it's almost been a half hour. Let's know what Craig T. Nelson's mullet a little bit here. Oh, thank God. Oh, thank God. Is it, no, is this a full, it's not like a full mullet. This is just like a, a dude hasn't gotten a haircut in a while. A little shagad. This is a casual. The casual mullet, I would say. Yeah, it's more of a unintentional look. My fucking house imploded by itself last year, you know, and I haven't had a time to go to the barber. It's kind of what I'm rocking right now, honestly.

Yeah. It's just like, is it? No, I mean, it's not that, not that shaggy. But I mean, like, you know, like it's, it's,

it's been a long time for a haircut. My house didn't implode, but the world did. So, right. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's kind of great,

dude, because it's like, I could see Craig T. Nelson rocking this haircut at like a pool party. You know, if he was like grilling up some burgers in a Hawaiian shirt,

like, hey, Andrew, come and get it. And I'd be like, right there, Craig T. Nelson, hang on a second. And he has that haircut. Yeah, if this is all that he is done, like, if this is all the effects of the poltergeist incident with his house imploding and everything, he's actually doing pretty good, I would say.

Like, if I had been through that, I would look more like that guy who's hanging out in the convenience store and ghost world. Like, I would just be, like, I would be a complete maniac. And I would be eating nothing but like Cheetos. I would be crazy. Well, I mean, there is a little bit of this in the first movie, but it's clearly stepped up here. I mean, he's drinking through this entire movie. Oh, boy. For the most part.

I mean, Budweiser all over this movie, like, when they go to the diner, like, after the first, like, haunting of the movie, we're told it's 4.30 in the morning, absolutely Craig T. Nelson's got a beer cracked at that table. Well, you know, if ghosts start, like, creeping back into my life, I'm going right to that bottle. No, I'm not judging. I'm literally drinking right now. I'm not judging. Yeah, you cannot scare me if I'm drunk to the point where I think things are funny or I'm blacked out.

Exactly. Do your worst day. You're going to die in there. Wake up. Wake up right now. You're going to die in there. Oh, come on. You're putting on the radio.

That's ridiculous. That's a goddamn ridiculous. By the way, I love the vacuum. He's like checking out. he's going to become a door-to-door vacuum salesman now? Yeah, that is your classic sequel changing profession thing, isn't it? Yeah, but it's like a pathetic profession, though, so I guess it checks out. But I also get a little bit of the Gremlin's thing, like he's fidgeting with things.

Yeah. Like the dad from Gremlin. Like, that is what I got from that. But he says something about, like, how am I supposed to sell these suck vac 5,000s if I can't even get it to? Because he's trying to, like, fiddle with it. and then, like, yeah, electricity sparks all over it. And this is something about how am I supposed to sell these? And how does this not come back as, like, a haunted item later in the film?

Well, it kind of, it doesn't really, but it does like, there's a scene where he tries to use it and it just, like, bangs into a bunch of stuff and, like, wrecks the house. Oh, okay. And, like, that's sort of something. Yeah, I guess what's supposed to be, but, like, technology is kind of, like, haunted? I don't know. I think I was checking my watch at that side.

Well, so, yeah, him and Joe Beth Williams are, like, kind of going to bed, reminiscent of their last bedroom scene in the first movie, although she's not smoking weed. Big problem. Yeah, big problem. I guess if you're in your mom's house, you've got to watch it with that. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's actually true. Grandma's going to have a fit.

A year out from Polter, guys, I'd be probably moving on to pills, too. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. I do appreciate that first film saying, like, yes, they're adults. They're living the suburban life. But, of course, they have a little J. and the nightstand don't worry about it yep it's a nice like see you didn't have to throw it all away you can you can ride you can ride the line there exactly a little realism folks diane i smell

is it a dead concert up there or what you're a psychic why don't you fucking tell me well we should yeah that's that's the one thing because we are throwing every uh there's a scene where uh it's the grandmother and Caroline and she kind of goes through and she's like, do you see things? Do you know things sometimes? This, that, and the other thing. And yeah, exactly. She's like, yeah, just know things sometimes. And Stephen King's

lawyers knew things sometimes too. And they're like, oh, what the fuck? Dude, they had, like, they're watching this movie. There's like, all right, dial 555-487. And then once they say it, hit nine. If they get into legal territory, hit nine, call the number. We are suing

these people. I think this is the Three Stooges legal theory. I think like because you ripped off so many people in this movie. If all of them tried to sue you at once, they'd get so much little back, it wouldn't matter. So they're not going to do it. I like this idea. Yes. It's a real like trying to get through the door at the same time. Oh yeah, John Carpenter. You think you're coming for me? Yeah, okay. We'll see how much you get back. It's a, uh, well, it's a real shitting situation for sure oh yeah it's it's like i mean they're at a table it's an elderly person talking to a child about like powers that they also had and things they used to and i'm like man if i was Stephen king i'd be so pissed right now watching this movie well he's too high on fucking coke it's

1986 dude that guy was oh mars yeah yeah actually that's that's true also yeah this this whole is all like the the one child's fault for looking so freaking creepy right like if you just have like good vibes i think ghosts will be like all right that's cool like i'm moving on yeah at this point stephen king is al pacino at the end of scarface except for there's nobody attacking the house that's how he wrote maximum overdrive i think yeah that's that's his process say hello to a new chapter yeah and then he fell into the pool oh everybody's getting ready for the it clown say goodbye to the it clown

the it clown I forgot the day it's Penny wise sorry it's funny as I was thinking about it the other day and I was like oh it's it the clown I'm like that's not that's not right that's not correct doesn't I feel like it should have been though

yeah sure yes yeah I don't know uh there's a weird scene where like joe beth williams in the middle of this all is like well you know why don't we like go shopping so they go to this mini mall and this is some real 1986 like hey kids are you keeping up you better be like losing kids in a mall thing i couldn't believe this especially after you've just had this crazy haunting like i'm putting these kids on leashes man this girl was a kid in fucking in in another plane for days and now you're just like caroline keep up or lose it and of course what happens here this is where

creepy cane comes in and we sort of see immediately that this dude is a ghost but he's also like able to present at the mall like an actual person and like touch people so it's kind of weird and he's just like oh hey oh you lost sweetheart and like you got to start screaming right there kid You gotta start screaming. Yeah. You know, the first movie is scarier because you don't see a personification, I think. Yeah, I buy that. I know it's not like a scary movie, but it's like more, like the mystery is what was appealing about it.

But anyway. Also, anybody dressed like that, I need to see them in a bunch. If I see a solo person with that kind of garb out, I'm running, no matter what. But if it's a group, I understand, maybe they're Quakers or something. don't understand it but one person alone absolute horror but the movie also doesn't really let you know if the public at large can see him or if it's just the family because like Carolyn talks to him of course and he's like holding her hand at one point singing her a weird Jesus song and then and Joe Beth Williams

and the son also see him but there's definitely also parts where like people are literally walking through this guy like fucking Vincent Chevelli and ghost and this is where you need to do like a an eerie check-in and especially if you've been through what you've been through because like she's like oh my God thank you sir nice talking to you talk to you later you had like Caroline he was a weird ghost person right

like that's it this is a weary situation sweetheart yeah you saw people walk through him the the creep factor there was making the hair on the back of my neck stand up that's a ghost right that we were just talking to and also Joe Beth Williams like not at all suspicious of this

guy she's like oh thank you for finding my kid what the fuck no like take your hands off her stop singing you're bringing in the sheep song or whatever the shit that it was get away from my kid you ghost oh oh say oh say do you want to go to waldon books and look at the barinstein bears with me some through the periodicals with me huh oh i got myself a hot date to that let's go let's go get you an orange julius it's kind of like orange juice they put a little milk in it and then a bunch of eyes i appreciate that this guy's a christian weirdo and i guess he had this whole like i guess cult or whatever but the fact that like you you become a christian weirdo and suddenly eventually that leads

you to becoming the beast like apparently the devil is at play with this guy yeah yeah we're throwing the beast around here and i mean that's yeah are we referencing the big guy i i think the idea is like you're, I guess he's so corrupted that now it's like you're kind of doing the devil's business. I, I don't. The beast has mentioned once in the, in the, in the first film as well. You're supposed to, I think you're supposed to, when she talks about it, you're supposed to believe it's the devil. But then, like, he turns into an actual beast at the end of this movie that looks like garbage. Yeah, it's terrible. Then you're like, okay, so then like, okay, I don't care anymore. Like, you took all the menace out of that early part of her saying, beast.

So he's like just a demon, I guess. Maybe it's like an underling in hell. Well, not hell yet, just purgatory. Well, I do love the fact that he's like this religious nut and then he hangs out at the mall. His ghost is just hanging out at the mall. You know, this is a guy. We're told that this dude dies in like the early 19th century or something, right? Like, I need this guy to be walking around this mall like fucking so crates and Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

Like, he's got to be looking around like, my God, look at all the stores. Oh, my, would you see that Mrs. Fields has a cookie stand in this place. Now, I remember Mrs. Fields. I watched her perish before my very ass. She never made any cookies back then? No. She's just starved to death. And now she got cookies. My word of Spencer's gifts. Look at that. Ooh, hoolly doodly. Now, would you kids like a giant pretzel covered in cinnamon?

I wish you was just a mall ghost. That's a better, Poltergeist 2 mall ghost? Okay. Yep. Absolutely. Oh, wow. Look at that.

A bookstore only for adults for some reason. It's the 80s. The malls were all the rage and it would be like such a, such a severe detriment to the businesses there and the mall owner be like, what is going on after night? Like, you know, it would be something. My word, you see, they're selling Italian food here. Italian food, right next to hot dogs.

Oh, hey, child, don't worry about it. Here I am. It's me and my team coming in to bus some ghosts and do a little shopping, y'all. Hold on. Is that a Panda Express? Is that a bear train? Is that a bear train? Panda Express?

Is this a zoo? I would like to book passage to the bear country, please. I'm trying to get my ticket at the old Pandexpress. Man, you know, we need a haunted mall movie. Here's the title, Murder on the Panda Express. Yes. Or maybe also if it was a child ghost, it could be a kid in King Arthur's Food Court or something like that. I don't know.

I would love it. Oh, man. You know, you got like floating mozzarella sticks or something. I'd be running around trying to catch those like a kid chasing a balloon oh my McDonald's they let the Irish in here he's horrified

of what the country's become so you know the grandmother has a thing with Diane too where she's like look you're not really talking about this at all Joe Beth Williams character here admits that she doesn't remember a lot of the events from the first film

you know and she's just kind of like I want to move on sort of a thing and she's also neglecting her quote unquote psychic gift as well and yeah just a whole family of psychics man it's pretty dumb all of a sudden she forgot you a second in the last movie it's weird oh really weird she totally forgot that her mom was psychic and all this other paranormal stuff is going on which is growing up yeah the the grandmother isn't in the first movie right

no yeah not that i remember it been a while i didn't i didn't get a chance to rewatch it before this uh uh so so well the grandmother's really not in this movie much either because she eats shit right here there's a weird there's a scene where like everyone's asleep and carolans like walking around like making sure everybody's asleep and like she gets into the grandmother's room and you're just like yeah that lady's dead and then like she gives caroland gives her the kiss of death she literally goes up to her she kisses her and then she dies now does she sleep swallow her soul there? Is that the idea? I think so. I think that's it, Eric.

Well, the soul goes into the phone, right? Because the little kid phone calls. This fucking shit. Come on. Well, that's the other thing, too, because later on, the phone is haunted by not only her cane gets in there as well, this little thing. Call waiting. Thankfully, she hasn't.

Hello? Oh, wait. Grandma, hold on. I'm getting a beep. You're going to fucking die. I'm going back to Grandma. can we mention that this daughter is first of all they bear they really neglect her in the first movie the older daughter they barely even get her out of the fucking the the town that's exploding and then here she's just not mentioned whatsoever erased from existence yeah and again another bad thing where like the original script there was a scene or there was just a passing reference to like the character was at college and then they just decided not to film it and then just

decided after Dominic Dunn was murdered you know they were also like well we're not going to like recast it or anything like that like the character will just pretend it doesn't exist but like you it just takes two seconds cranty nonsense pontificating about whatever and it's just like and with so and so off at school yada yada do that legwork movie when they go to the diner he should call her to make sure everything's okay and you know amherst or wherever she is you know and like just fucking throw it in there and then throw it out let me know that he checked in on her to make sure paranormal shit's not happening to his other daughter as well i know it kind of

didn't target her in the first movie but be concerned about your family fucker but but we have more mysticism to do you don't understand we don't have time we don't have time eric yes so grandma's dead when and i think ander you alluded to this to me on twitter last night they don't crank t nelson doesn't get a haircut right but his hair is just different for the rest of the movie he just They gave him a haircut at some point during the production, and that's it. Was that a deleted seat as well? Like, gosh, you got to go to, oh, your mom died, better get a haircut for the funeral kind of a thing.

Like, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, because it's really like, I think he still, does he have the mullet right here in the kitchen scene? No, where they tell the kids, it's gone right here. I think it's gone there or maybe not. I don't know. But it's, holy fuck, my mother-in-law's dead. Better run out to the barber.

Honey, are you calling our other daughter? No, no, I'm trying to see if Lou can squeeze me in at like 12.15. Oh, no, you're going to fucking die in that house. First things first, I'm giving you a haircut. Clip, clip, clip, clip. Clippity, clip, clips. This ghost is cutting my fun barbecue mullet. Oh, not fun anymore.

Now you've got to get a real job. You got to buckle down, Bucco. We're going to give you a nice buzz. I made you look like a real asshole. I mean, he just, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those haircuts, like, it's so extreme. Yes. That, like, there's no way to not notice it. You know, it's not just like, oh, they kind of did his hair differently.

It is noticeably cut and style differently. What's crazy is I didn't notice it. And I'm going to blame my friend, Puff the Magic Dragon. Gotcha. Yeah, that guy will get you into all sorts of misadventures. Right next to me on the couch. Usually very guilty. He's your new movie buddy.

Dr. Pepper is, uh, on the, hiatus. He's on hiatus until movie theaters can reopen safely. I know they are now at like 25% or something, but I want a big shot in the rump before I go in there. Absolutely, dude. I'm not stepping foot in a theater. I'm pretty sure Puff the Magic Dragon is going to be on your shoulder when you go and hang out with pepper and popcorn again. You know what?

New York State could make it a lot easier for Puff to hang out. I'm just saying, let's pass it. We got the legislative, uh, the New York State legislature there. Come on, guys. what are you doing? They're too busy lying about how many old people died in nursing homes of COVID. Yeah, you think he might want to have a good news story. Yeah, legalized pot, whatever.

Yeah, cool. Just don't write any more stories about me, please. I'm the fun governor. Yeah, that's how he could save this by rebranding. Listen, sure, I'm a little whatever with the ladies and sure I'm a little whatever with Grammy, but oh we're partying we're passing out drinks allow drinking on the streets in new york you know let me walk down the street with a beer and a fucking puff the magic dragon to fly behind me what's wrong with that new Orleans rules baby exactly plus of all there are no house implosions in this

area okay but if there was it was because of puff the magic dragon yeah i uh i apologize also actually I won't not apologize for also writing a book called I never sexually harassed anyone ever and then publishing it just last week before these allegations came out the old people in the homes died because of poltergeist okay oh no child it's Cuomo he's got everybody locked up they can't get out child oh god it's the beast So, you know, you're in trouble when you're staying at your dead mother's house and you're trying to do some gardening and a cloud literally just comes over your house and starts pouring rain, big problem. Yes, and then this is when Kane makes his appearance

at the house again. and he tries to get in. It's a cool scene between him and Craig Tee a little bit, I think. Yeah, I think Craig T is better in the first movie, but I think he's a compelling actor in this. Yes, I mean, you can't be. Julian Beck is so good in this scene, though. Like, he just like, he does.

He's like, well, I don't really know. I'm acting like a ghost, but I guess this is vampire rules. Let me in. Let me in, please. What is the idea? Yeah, dude, we are mixing lore. Just added all it. Like I said, just throw it all the fuck in there. Have a fucking haunted car that runs down people too. Why don't you? You know, if you don't let me in your house, I'm just going to have to haunt your yard.

And if you want to ever read the newspaper again, it's going to be kind of hard to find. Well, the only way you're going to get rid of get rid of me is having sex with somebody else. That's right. It follows rules too, baby. Whatever you want. you got to stick it somewhere else Craig Tee that would be amazing it's a new full moon better watch out for me later this evening

I'm doing that shit too it don't make no sense all yeah him trying to get in comes after a lot of and we don't have to touch on all of it but like Taylor is Will Samson's character's name

he's like sort of trying to explain to Craig T Nelson how they have to like prepare you know the house has to be prepared to do like battle and everything and uh you know Craig T Nelson not being you know super sensitive to indigenous communities around here because he's like he's really getting pissed off that will Samson is around and uh he does have to have this line where he's like I've got nothing against these people I read bury my heart at wounded knee in high school you guys man he also it turns it turns to a real bad

dad stand-up routine, racist dad stand-up routine. And he's just like, I think I'm 116th on my mother's side. Am I right? It's like, yeah, the white guy special. I'm 116th of my mother's side, but she'll never talk about that, I think, is the other part of that line. I think I should get some of that money, you know? Exactly. Because I don't know if it backed out, I think I should get some of that money, you know?

Uh-huh. And the script also, the script also manages to make a, a, a, a, a stupid, like, racist joke and also a dumbass cuckoo's-ness reference at the same time, because he's like, I mean, listen, Taylor's a nice guy, but what if he escaped from the tribal asylum? My favorite Taylor moments compilation reel here is I like when he's just vibe it in the garden and all the butterflies around him because he's just like a dude that's chill. and like that makes it so good by the way do this at home you know just be chill and suddenly bad shit ain't coming at you all the spirits you know i think you're totally right dude and you know it's it's interesting because like i think to me anyway will sampson is the

most interesting character in the movie because i found him to be such a compelling actor sure and i just i want more of that and the movie completely abandons there's there's one part in the movie where he's basically like, well, Craig T. Nelson, I've done all I can do. See you later movie. And I'm like, no, no, no, wait a second. Like, you're the best part, man. Don't leave the movie. Well, because he comes, he announced himself as he's like, you know, Tanjina sent me, which should be all you need to know. You owe that fucking, you owe Tangina. And he, Craig T. Nelson, not to be outdone with the slurs. He's like, ha, what's the magic munchkin got to say now? I'm like, dude, she saved your fucking daughter's life.

You should be kissing her feet, you asshole. She sashayed into that house wearing them baller sunglasses and saved your daughter's life, you fucking asshole. Show a little respect to that woman. Look, all I'm saying is, you know, she comes into the house and the house implodes. Okay? You can't say what's going on, all right? Oh, yes.

I may be diminutive in stature, but you won't even. see me because now you're fucked y'all you made a wrong enemy that's the thing is I think she's more of like a frightner's situation and she's like making a deal with the ghosts and we'll both make out on this well there

is a there is a part where like Craig T. Nelson is saying like Taylor shows up stuff starts going bad like he's in on it you know this is a whole set up to try to get money out of us or something yeah yeah he's very very suspicious boomer

white guy here there is the scene so there's a big you know spooky haunting thing that happens one night and they they do it's like a little bit of like an earthquake kind of a haunting here for the most part and this is when they escape to the diner and it's like four in the morning

yeah I love these counter ladies yes dude the mother and daughter who like clearly live together even though the daughter is probably like mid 50s and they just bicker all the time and there's a weird thing where like, is it the daughter's upset that the mother's like seeing some guy that's a scumbag? It's kind of

hilarious. Why did you get me up at four of the money for him? And I'm a cigarette here. John or apple pie. I would prefer the lost new Hollywood classic that these two ladies are anchoring. This is so much more what I'm into

other than whatever the fuck is going on with Craig T. Nelson and his fucking bullet. You're totally right, Kevin. These two ladies get back in their car. They're driving home. They pull up on the highway, like behind a pickup truck. In the flatbed, it's just Jack Nicholson playing piano and traffic. Exactly.

And the scummy boyfriend, Ned Beatty. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Now I'm dating your mother. Look, I got you these chocolate flowers that you can eat them. And don't you come on, just give me a little bit money to go to the poker table. It's still a haunting movie. That movie has got to be called

On the Skids for sure Oh, definitely, dude Oh, come on, baby, look, I bought you two cottons Are your favorite cigarettes Second favorite Oh, these are my backup cigarettes I'm trying here, baby

I'm trying, I'm trying I'm trying to put one out on you Oh no I'm hitting the skins He said it Yeah, woo So the thing that's funny about these ladies, though, is the daughter is like,

I don't have time for this, you crazy old lady. I'm getting out of here. And she stands up and becomes possessed by the grandmother. And like she leans into the table and the woman speaks, but it's the grandmother, the actress who played the grandmother's voice. And she's just like, you got to get back there. You got to face it as a family. You can't run away.

It's already killed one of us. I'm dead. I would have much preferred her Being like Are you still smoking the pot? Huh? Are you still smoking the pot here? Yeah, I came back from heaven

I came back from heaven To see if you are smoking the pot In your bed! I know and I know I know that when you were 16 You masturbated in your bedroom Twice Just all the old grievances come back

You don't think I noticed That you cut my liquor with a little water just so you could take a nip back when you were 17 you don't think I noticed that? That Memorial Day party was an atrocity and I'm still mad about it.

Look, no, sit down. This is a 24-hour diner and I have grievances from beyond the grave to get to. You could have gotten into Harvard, but you were a brown girl. What kind of mother

serves ham? Christmas really wow really that lady's got a problem with ham on Christmas she's one of those turkey people you can't stop them I love when the counter lady goes back to normal and the

other one is like oh you just went funny for a minute yeah well that's just even Craig T. Nelson is just like they're out because like the idea is like the there's an earthquake in the house they bolted to the diner like what are we going to do now and I think Taylor is like you got

go back, you're safer at home, and that's when the grandmother has to, like, you know, intervene to be like, look, you really have to go home. And Craig Dean Nelson's like, listen, that's, I don't know, I don't know what, who knows what that lady was talking about? That's, that kind of crazy stuff happens all the time. I'm like, dude, you, again, last

year, your daughter went to the nether space. Yep, refusing to believe what is already right in front of his face, right? Yes, exactly. Well, yeah, but that was, that was all the Democrats doing. Okay. Oh, I see. He's got a center. now he knows what's going on there is a great line because when they go back out to the car

they're in like the parking lot of the diner taylor is there again and he goes uh craig d nelson says to him uh are you in cahoots with the lady in there and he's got a great response i love this line he goes i cahoot with no one but it's insane yeah that crank t nelson is like you guys are totally right like the second that he was like Oh, I'm, you know, Tangina sent me. Except whatever this dude is putting out. Because, like, this whole scene again is Craig T. Nelson turning him down. Like, why would you refuse this man's help?

Only because you're probably a little racist, Craig T. Nelson character. I don't know what to tell you, buddy. More than a little. But so then he lets, they wind up going home and they let him move in with him, sort of, which is kind of fun. He gets to sleep in a tent outside. I don't know about that. Yeah.

I was like, whose decision was that. if it's because if it's Taylor's fine you want to sleep in the yard fine but if it's Craig T Nelson like all right you can help my family but you got to sleep in the yard that's what it is you know you know I actually I can just get a hotel no we be in the yard you can stay in the I could just get a hold I have friends in this neighborhood actually I can no in the yard I mean yeah you know we talked about it already but then this is when Kane comes to the house My only thing about this scene is like, Craig T. Nelson, why don't you fucking gut up, dude, and just punch this guy in the face?

Like, he's so like, I don't know. This old man's just yelling at me. I think part of it is like, are we supposed to believe here that he's like a little bit possessed by him right in this moment? I think so. Yeah, a little bit confused. Yeah, a little hypnosis I think is supposed to be at play. That's right. I'm sort of a vampire. I could do whatever I want. man and this is also near around when the the tailor hangs with the butterflies also i love that he he readies joe beth here for the confrontation being like children fought in wars lady yeah like like they are they are prepared if you treat them like uh an equal in some way and i was like the whole children fighting in wars thing in the through through the gaze of of poltergeist too i'm like is this kid power shit

could yeah possibly maybe what i think he's just trying to get a child army going is that that's his there's well there's no i would love that at the end he's got like he's like the pie-piper of cost of verde or whatever the town is and he's taking all these kids children now attack well see i'm cranky nelson i'm going to help you fight uh cane this ghost by throwing wave after wave of other children's souls at it so it doesn't get yours. I would I would be more inclined

to get hip with the kid power theory if were the kids that did anything at the end of this movie but that's not what happens. That's true. For as much as Taylor is saying you know, you need to ready the kids for battle or whatever

like they don't do anything. Yeah, nobody does any. Craig T. Nelson is the one that hucks the spear at the monster at the end. The most that Carol Ann does is go up to her grandmother and says you broke my heart, kissed her on a cheek and kill her.

Yeah, yeah, no one does anything. The car has got problems and we talk about the car for a little bit. That is this fucking movie. We're talking about the car. Yeah, oh, well, there's the Christine reference. It was a joke before, but I guess it's real.

It's not like, but it's like, it's not fleshed out or anything. It's like, you don't know. I wish it was like Cain was out there fucking with his car, but you don't know why the car is just a shitty car. I assumed because he doesn't have a job. He's a door-to-door salesman that is currently

not working at the same time. Oh, that's right. How are you going to go door-to-door selling stuff if I cut your brakes? Did you see an Amish-looking guy under my car fiddling around? I'm going to call my brother Billy Kane, and he's going to, he's going to get drunk in your living room.

Billy Kane. Hey, Craig D. Nelson, man. You better get out of here. The oatmeal guy's fucking with your car. I told you to let me in the house. Now we have to fuck with your car. Oh, you got a haunted car. And by that, I mean, your brakes are cut.

I live in your transmission now. I'm putting ghost sugar in your gas tank. Beep, beat, motherfucker. Your life is over. I put a dead body in your trunk. Have fun with that. I unscrewed all your headlights. A dead body in your trunk.

Oh, man. What's going to th. Oh, kind of around my favorite part of the movie. Because, like, you know, we did mention the middle of this movie is just like, saggy slash, like, we're preparing for this big confrontation. It's like 50 minutes of this movie is them just talking about the idea of the movie coming to a conclusion.

Yep, exactly right. We're just sitting around spending the middle of the movie talking about the end of the movie. But there is that great scene where Taylor is outside and he's sort of, you know, just looking up at the stars. And Craig D. Nelson comes out

just drinking tequila straight from this bottle. And he goes, tequila. More like tequila, am I right? You want somebody? and he's like, um, no, I'm not an alcoholic. It's three in the afternoon. Yeah, I mean, he's, this,

tequila is going to be coming up in quite a lot of therapy sessions. That, that pronunciation specifically is going to be coming up quite a lot. Um, we should talk about, so like, there, we're all going, get ready for bed. Dad's been drinking tequila all day and Caroline and the boy are like, kind of like fighting in the, uh, bathroom there. And he's like, I'm just got to clean my braces and be right.

down and this is the silliest scene in the movie. It's very silly. I don't know. Why is Carol Ann being like bedtime cop right here? Look at the fuck out of this bathroom. I don't know. I kind of like, I mean, I really like this scene because it breaks up all

the boredom that's been happening before this. Like Tetsua, the braised face is fucking great compared to that. This braces trauma man. And some of those braces are like, oh, Jesus Christ, that's terrible. Ooh, yeah, that must have been freaking you out. Dude, I never had the pleasure.

Oh, yeah. I did not know that you had braces. Yeah, you can't tell, but it did happen. I didn't mean it like that. No, no, I know. Yeah, you're seeing post-reconstruction. Yeah, you don't want. With the materials that I had, this was the best I could do.

It's not, yeah, this is, this is as good as it could get, my friend. But yeah, apparently the deal was. i guess in the script it was a little more of a my girl situation and this kid was supposed to be attacked by bees but the actor the actor playing the son was like terrified of bees and was like look i'm not doing that i don't know i don't know what you want me like fire me whatever i'm not doing a bee scene and then they were like all right we're going to make braces come out of your mouth and fucking tie you to the ceiling with them or whatever happens but he's on the set of polter guys to it he's being clever he's just like

no no we're not going to use we would never use real bees and it's like yeah no fucking way dude yep totally this kid knew of the curse I don't even understand the B angle here it's ghost control bees yeah it's just a weird thing

and it's hilarious because it's the one thing that you would actually be like it's kind of original as compared to everything else being based on stuff we already have seen before like a kid being attacked in a bathroom by B would be something interesting to see. Yeah, he's like, oh, what's that buzzing coming from the medicine cabinet, you know?

Yeah. I guess Kane just knows how to control bees. Are they ghost bees? They're dead bees. I mean, yeah, they're ghost bees. They would be ghost bees. Oh, look at my army of ghost bees. All bees go to hell, don't you know?

Oh, definitely. That's definitely true. Wasps go to heaven, you wouldn't you think it? yeah that's actually pretty surprising because hornets and bees definitely in hell but wasps in the kingdom of heaven walking with god yeah just god walking around with a bunch of wasps they didn't want a future steal they future steal that from candy man but the bray yeah so like the braces started to come out it's the crazy wire thing

that's only again as a some of the braces was like that was like kind of like oh geez but then when he's wrapped up like spider man's zapped him with a web. It's a little silly. It gets really silly, really quickly. And then like Craig T. Nelson and Joe Beth Williams are trying to like pull him out of it and they're getting wrapped up and all of it. And then like

isn't there some other like braces monster thing that's coming after one of them? No, the braces are trying to, the braces turns into an arm and it's trying to zap into the outlet is the idea. Oh yes. That's right. It's true. These braces are trying to commit suicide and

take whoever's touching with them. I'm going to give you a shock of your life with your weird future medicine metal mouth there and this Alexander Graham Bell's death machine in the wall here. Yeah, you should have went with an alternating current. Sorry, you're going to die. That direct current's going to get you every time. And so this whole time, too, he's cranky Nelson screaming at Will. Samson, right? He's like, Taylor! Taylor! And Taylor's just downstairs holding Carol Ann, and

when all is said and done, he's like, you know, what's going on here? What the fuck were you doing, man? My kid was having his braces, stick him to the goddamn ceiling. And he's like, you're such an idiot. You've listened to nothing that I've told you. All of that was a distraction so that

this fucking monster spirit could get Carol Ann. So I was here doing the thing that I've been telling you to do, Craig Nelson? Yeah, a distraction. Murdering my one son to get my other daughter isn't really a distraction for me. I'd have it now a dead kid.

So, look, I'm trying to keep everybody alive here, Taylor. If you're not ready to watch your son die, then you're really not taking this seriously. Absolutely. Taylor weighed the options. It's like, here's your beautiful, blonde girl, and there's your disgusting shit boy,

mud-haired American boy. He can go. Do you hear what that little shit boy said? He said the R word, just like you. Yeah, they should die. I want to watch the end of this scene where whatever, this kid's braces retreat back into his mouth. What happens with these things? Yeah.

Do we have to, like, clip those off? Liquid, liquid metal. It just all kind of reforms in his mouth. Oh, yeah. If I'm Robbie, like the next 20 years, like, not 20 years, like the next two years of my life, get these fucking braces out of my fucking mouth oh my god yeah i'm surprised like Craig t nelson isn't like drinking tequila going to the debts get him in that chair now you get them out get the thing out of his mouth he'll go get a viseline in the future like the yeah this kid should

be like i don't care if i look like a human shark get these braces out of my mouth i don't i don't care if my kid looks like british royalty okay in the mouth department that's fine but i'm not having this fucking metal monster in there oh man the best best part of Prince Harry starting a podcast you don't have to see his mouth he's got good lip coverage it goes down a real low I do love right

when he's when he's yelling at Taylor and Taylor's whole thing is like he's just trying to explain to him like I wasn't it wasn't that I was sitting here doing nothing you guys were doing that I was protecting her because that was the idea was like you know this ghost is going to

you know cause this braces distraction and then while that while you're dealing with that they're going to fucking steal the actual child that they want. They want Carol Ann. They don't give a shit about Robbie. Sorry, Robbie. And like, while Craig T. Nelson is dressing this dude down for the fourth time in this movie, the ghosts even are like, you know what, man, you're being real shitty to this guy who's just trying to help you here.

And Craig T. Nelson gets thrown across the room and crashes through his own, like, living room bar area. Oh, I was laughing. And you get, what is this other, like, the, the, the, the bright white like light ghost is that cane too i think so the one who says like you cannot you cannot keep her i am not dead yes that's got to be cane i think it's supposed to be him is like what what he actually is now is like a monster and what we're seeing as a projection of what he used to look like walking around hey now i'm a lot being pretty confusing right fuck you but yeah

I mean and this is another thing that I think Taylor says at one point he's talking about like death only transforms us into another state of being his soul still remains evil so like it's the same entity but now that he's dead he's transformed into another being

but it's the same evil soul and then Craig T. Nelson's just like again this is a deleted scene waiting to happen I'm talking about going to a sweat lodge because Craig T. Nelson has been anti-Native American mysticism. This whole movie is just in a sweat lodge in the next scene. I'm like, when did that

happen? Yeah, yeah. And right before this, we also, I think, get the lines of like, the love is what he's trying to like destroy. Like, you as a family have to stick together and that'll help defeat it. And then, yeah, then we just cut to like

Craig T. Nelson in a fucking sweat lodge, uh, smoking up. making more bad jokes more like man if this is a health club where's my where's my locker combination yeah at least that one

I don't know you know what never mind I will say while he is at the sweat lodge is when Zelda shows up at the house this is the this tiny little blinking you missa interaction was the much bigger scene but this is her like

hi die and sorry to come announced and like she comes in and she's got these photographs and she's like you know uh we found this whole tomb right below here old house uh do you recognize anybody in this photograph you're missing she tells the whole story you're missing the joke where she knocks in the door it's all scary oh sure yeah and she looks out the the people nobody's there knocks again and it's like yeah she's a very small woman we we've got it guys it's it's okay thank Thank you, Brian. And, you know, you can do that joke. It's another 50 grand extra.

I don't get. I'm a lot taller than you when I stand on my fat stacks. Ooh, yeah, I'll do that scene child and then run after I finish it. Guess what, y'all? I'm going to drive home from working my new Lamborghini. Y'all are buying me. Yeah, I'm sitting out of phone. book whatever um but there's i heard like one of the best lines here is like she's telling the

story of you know this guy and his religious sect and you know they disappeared or whatever and she but she's like yeah they were going out west of california child to start a utopian society the way that she says society is the absolute best with this voice i love it And, no, he says, but then the revelation is happening. And they kind of just go into a cave. And he's like, nope, it's going to happen. Don't worry. We're just going to starve to death pretty much.

Yeah, like all those dudes. Yeah, you do get a little bit of flashback here, right? Yes, you see it. Like fits and starts kind of clips and things. Get a little of his motivation because they tasted a lick of her life force in the first movie. And they want it. That's right. he wants to basically like possess caroland and steal her life force i guess because they were around

her life force is why they're able to project now question mark they got it they got a entirely possible yeah yeah something about her being on the other side you know they're familiar with her now and now now it's kind of more like a two-way street for the ghosts i'm sure it all makes sense it does chris it makes perfect sense i mean the Like, at this, this whole sweatlatch thing, I'm just like, did you call William Hurt? And he was just like, no, no, no, my studies were in Mexico. This is different. No, no, it's different.

It's not altered states, I swear. Because, yeah, he smokes up some, it's magic, like, you see, like, some cool. It's like, it's like force lightning end weed mixed together, which is pretty cool. Sure. Mm-hmm. Sick combo, dude. That's some real couch sitter stuff right there. Hell yeah.

Puff the magic dragon move over. but he is he says Will Sampson has a line here where he goes smoke like he's literally like addressing the element of smoke and smoke fill him with knowledge and we do see later Craig T. Nelson does have like

some smoke powers a little bit so it's again it's just it's one last like Taylor being like look you've been fucking horrible to me this whole time your jokes absolutely terrible but I am now giving you one more

thing in your arsenal to fight this spirit because by the way I am out of this movie for the next 20 minutes I'll see it at the rap at the end there buddy adios Craig D. Nelson. I'm going to have to forcibly make you stone to make you sufferable okay

that's what we're going to have to do here to tone down your like white guy rage smoke up a little bit and yet you don't deserve any of that money man so stop asking me I had nothing to do it And so what Taylor has been telling him the whole time

and now what Tangina also says is like, look, you guys, you got to go back to the Questa Verde house or the site of the house and you got to go back to Questa Verde. You've got to face down this beast. I mean, they're not going to stop following you, Craig T. Nelson, you got to gut up and go do it. But, you know, it's a better idea, which I think is how it just gets smashed on tequila instead.

Yep, absolutely. Absolutely. get absolutely fucking wrecked on this tequila yep stealing from Barfly too

I see how it is there's not even like a seltzer or even a beer to cut this with here's to all my ghosts oh my god yeah

let me get a glass even though if you're intending on destroying the whole bottle get a glass slow it down a little

bit maybe yeah you want me to get it you want me to get a glass, there's just a little bit left. Are you going to do those dishes? The answer is no. Yeah, like Craigty Nelson doesn't see anywhere ghosts. He just sees paid on away smoking a cigarette on his couch for the rest of his life.

Not bad. Not bad. Pretty pretty cool. This is when there's a worm in the tequila and, uh, this is so fucking funny. Now you just move into, um, you're like in a spoof movie now. Because the worm has a little eyeball. I was like, hi, I'm a worm and tequila. Hello.

It's a Freddie Kruger gag. It is. It's absolutely a Freddie Kruger gag. The worm is brought back to life as undead now and presumably, I guess, from Kane's ghost magic. I was, I kind of wanted the worm, like, while it was going down his gullet, be like, down I go. See you in a little bitch. It's just the worm is just dancing. He's like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

drunk he's just in his stomach dancing around Kane I guess Cain does possess the worm right so that he consumes that he becomes

Cain so the Cain is just like here I go down you go that oh wow you do oh yeah better look out

better eat less chili my goodness it's it's smelly down here this is gonna this is gonna go down a little harsher than that Billy beer that you were drinking

my God Craig T-Nelson and you better cut it back with the red meat. It's like a barnyard in here. He gets trapped in his colon, haunts him from the inside forever. Oh, no, only one way out. All the red meat that's stuck in there is talking to him, too. Yeah, it's like, I can't get by this.

It's a living. This red, red meat wall. I can't get through to the anus. And also, by the way, you got to spit that gum out. You can't be swallowing it. It's just gum and steaks down here. trapped forever. But it is great.

So, I mean, he swallows it and immediately gets possessed. It would be awesome because he must be so drunk at this point. He's just like, Jesus Christ, oh God, you're all going to die in here. You're all going to die in here.

And then, like, internally, like he's got to be, like, Kane is like, my God, I should have possessed him long before he finished that whole bottle. I can't control this thing at Oh, great. I just pissed myself. Well, he pissed himself, but I'm him now. So now I'm pissing myself. Now, like, him and... Oh, boy, I'm remembering what it's what it feels like to piss my pants. I should have possessed a bunch of hops and he would have drank me up real quick.

He then tries to, like, have sex with his wife. I'm like, is that Craig T. Nelson or is that cane? That's cane, dude. That is cane. Ghost stole my cock. That's like a lifetime movie time. It is. absolutely um but yeah i mean because he because he's got a bad he's Craig t nelson but he's also can and he's like i feel like Craig t nelson's doing a little bit of a voice here yeah and he's like you know i got my needs diane and then she goes seems like your needs have been filled by the bottle tonight yeah dude

well i would just be like fucking try it asshole nothing's gonna happen after a bottle of tequila yeah yeah let's see what that weaner's capable of, okay. Half mast at best. And you've already pissed your pants. Yeah, dude, play fucking taps and fold up the flag. You're done. Exactly. It's time to put on an episode of Frazier and go to bed.

No, no, show me your deflated balloon. I'd love to see it. Why don't you go and go possess up a cup of coffee and see what happens? Maybe sober up a little bit. yeah and he's just he's got another lot like he gets on top of her you know very much like attacking her now and he just starts screaming we want the angel we want the angel and he starts to retch a little bit here oh god and this is I mean this is we're body horror all of a sudden that you just I did not see this coming no this is insane it's like and yeah like it's just and thank God I'm an older man now I'm much more responsible the next time

I vomit from drinking I'll think about this thank God I didn't see this earlier because this would have been in my entire 20s I'm just thinking oh great it's pulled your guys too again here it comes I'm pulling a Craig T. Nelson again look tell everybody to get out of the

house there's going to be a being on your floor that is going to turn it to a mutant tower faces and it's going to be bad And this thing is really kind of creepy. It turns a giant worm. And then it starts getting like rib cage and bones and stuff. It's very disgusting.

This thing he pukes at. This is a stunt actor, by the way. A triple amputee stunt actor who did a couple of horror movies. Triple amputee from Vietnam. But that was his career. It's like being like kind of scary beings that don't have arms and legs. It sort of looks like the Wishmaster is starting to form. Yes, it does.

Yes. I was just going to say it looks like baby wishmaster. I love baby wishmaster. The best thing about this, this, this, this, this creature is, it's like edging, it's trying to get to the bathroom. Yes. And then it like turns to look at Craig T. Nelson and gives him a cocked eyebrow. Yes, dude.

It totally, because like, they, they give it so that like the, the makeup configuration on, on the actor doing the stunt work here is it looks sort of. of like cane. It's actually, you know what it reminded me of guys? Very much like a beetle juice moment. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, you're totally right, Kevin. This is kind of like a eh? It just like scurries out. It's kind of great. And almost fucked your wife. And and Noble Craig credited as vomit creature.

He started off in a movie called as Tim McGraw the Snake Man. 173 followed it up with vomit creature here then was sewer monster in big trouble in little China he's yep okay he's in the blob as puddle soldier and Nightmar and Elm Street

5 as merging Freddy so he played Freddy Krueher and then Bride of Reanimator as the reanimated crypt creature that was his last performance yeah oh wow he worked with some great I don't know that

that's a career man totally definitely is he uh is is this a war hero still with us steve uh he passed on in 2018 oh that's too bad by the way if anybody ever gets a chance to see it's pretty fun is it yeah it's a fun little movie it's a snake it's like snake horror movie i'll have to see it there you go that actually might have actually been on the poster for all i know I'm out of here. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. I almost got her. Craigty Nelson blows smoke in the thing's face, too. This is where he uses his smoke power.

He shotguns at him, which is fun. It is weird, like, that this, we get this part in this movie. It's just so not in that first movie. You get that, like, kind of, it seems very much like the end of Ghostbusters, one, that big, like, tarantula ghost kind of a thing happens at the end of the Yes, dude, the thing that it crawls under the Washington Square Park arch

Yes. During the Flip City montage, yeah. Yeah, I thought the same exact thing. You know, in the first movie, there's this brief moments of like fleeting gore, like one guy thinks he's ripping his face off and we watch a guy rip his face off. And this sequel, those,

the moments that are kind of like that are like this, like the fucking weird creature guy on the floor. What's weird is like it's, I mean, we've talked about how much of a hodgepodge it is, but right after this little like monster part happens and they they rid themselves of the monster right here and they're like kids, kids, kids, and they open the door

and then it's a bunch of extras from the thriller video or just like there's just like this shot of like outright zombies and we've seen these zombies before. They're just all of Cain's, you know, underlings, followers, whatever. But like, I don't know, man. Like I get those zombies out of here. There was just a little, you know, worm creature.

There's a bunch of fucking zombies Like the zombies Try to attack Joe Beth Williams In the backyard at some point Yeah There's a bunch of It's the same Yeah same zombies

There's like There's also like I felt a strong Fulci thing in this movie Because like When they go down below To the Underneath the pool

To find the place Where they all died They find a wet corpse With a slug coming out of its mouth Nice And I'm like that's total Fulci That would be totally

In a shot from his movie most definitely and then it goes like we find the kids carolans hiding in the caroland's hiding in the car and they get Robbie he was jerking off in the bath

or whatever well the funny thing is he's in a closet he's dressed in a full football gear and like earlier Craig T. Nelson's like Robbie that's a bit much I'm like dude have you my braces do you remember yesterday with the braces

yeah first of all do you have a fucking aunt I can stay with out of curiosity I mean, the helmet makes total sense. There's ghosts thrown around your kids all the time. Exactly. It's kind of funny, Steve.

They definitely do have an aunt, but that's the plot of the third movie. If I was Robbie, I would just be like, whenever anybody asked me a question, like, when are you taking me to the dentist? When are you taking? I don't care what's going to happen to the house. When are you taking me the dentist to get this demon off my teeth? Would it be a thing? Because I don't know how braces work.

I never had to have them. Like, well, when a mom braces and a dad braces, love each other. Oh, excellent. And then he puts his slug in her. Yes. I'm sorry. Could you like, I mean, how are they on there, Steve? Could you take like a screwdriver and just like rip them off?

Yes, it would be incredibly painful. They're usually like some sort of like cement-ish kind of. Oh, really? That's how they do it. Could you say it would be incredibly painful as Bain? You could take them off, but it would be incredibly painful. Thank you. Look at Steve taking requests from people inside the episode.

It's listener request. You know what? Eric is also a listener. Thank you. You adopted the braces. I was born into it. Yes. I lived in a black hole.

And by that, I mean, I had braces for like six years and nobody liked me. A mouth is kind of a black hole. Isn't it interesting that like inside your body, it's just as dark and desolate as space itself. Yeah. That's right.

That's some heavy shit, man. I guess it's wet and humid, which space isn't. And I guess you can breathe inside someone, too. More on that later. Could you? What are you? Is this all inner space rules? I don't know.

That was not a documentary. Everything is inner space rules, Chris. Yeah, they go to Carol Ann, who's locked herself in the car. Because she's like, can we go? Can we go? exactly I will say I was shocked

watching the first movie earlier this week and shocked again this dog makes it through both these motherfuckers all all wins on this motherfucker dude no loss

and what's this what's this dog's name ebom's world what is this what do they call this dog I missed it I really did it's like eBaz

or eBuzz or something let me look it up Ebert it's Ebert yeah or a dog I don't know let's You're looking at it up, Steve?

Yeah. You're Googling Poultergeist dog. Maybe it'll have like a picture of a ghost dog. EBuzz is his name. EBuzz. I don't know what's going on there, man. Sounds like a name of a vape. Yeah.

When did EBus pass on? I'm looking it up. Our favorite movie dogs, EBuzz and Poultergeist. Yeah. We got a tombstone on that guy. I think EBuzz was probably also a victim of the Poultergeist curse. Exactly. They wanted to have him in the third movie,

got hit by a car. He's murdered in gangland slaying. Wrong ways or the wrong time. Tried to buy a pack of gum at the wrong street corner and boom. Yeah, I got nothing. No, dude. Also, eBuzz, great dog actor, also huge drug kingpin. Yeah.

All right, so you don't have a date, so we'll just presume dead, I think we'll say. Well, yeah, this week at in 1985, this dog is not 33 years old. I'm going to guess the dog's not 33 years old. Probably not. so then the movie becomes another horror movie because we're in this car we're trying to get out of here and now it's just like flying ghost shit and this is it's such a dumb I feel it's a dumb Toby Hooper reference the chainsaw flying all over the place but also so that's happening the chains around the bumper of the car yeah it's a little much the chainsaw adds a moment of levity for me I thought it was kind of cute and fun it was cool I was doesn't do it. I mean, it's just so bonkers. I will say they did, they thought they were going to release this movie as a 3D movie, but then like Jaws 3D did so poorly and they just didn't do

that. That's where, that's why the chainsaw is coming right at you. You could see that in the trailer even, like that, because they really highlight the chainsaw shot in the trailer. Oh, did they really? Oh, nice. Yeah, and so like Craig T. Nelson finally just peels out. Well, first of all, the dog is ripping at these like, these like, I don't know, you'd call it, like, power cables. It's amazing.

The dog, and I think that this is more fucking Stephen King and Stephen Spielberg shit, because they definitely shock this dog in this scene. Because this dog is like, fuck this. Yep, yep. You see the dog like a shock, like a spark comes out of one of these things. The dog's like, the fuck was that? Look, look, I'm going to be square with you. If an animal isn't hurt during the process, it's not a Spielberg picture, okay?

You have to kind of hurt an animal. That's true. know how you get that little pita disclaimer at the end of your movie nine grand it's not that expensive okay we buried so many horses on the set of raiders of the lost dark we had to bury him too too high okay on the set of the terminal i had to punch a few pigeons just to meet the clota i know both movies we ate like kings though yeah we used a lot of uh cg i horses and war horse because we killed all the original ones. No horses left alive anywhere near when they were filming.

Yeah, I had... Was Steven Spielberg a secret producer on luck? It's possible. Yeah, a war horse is a movie about... I actually had a war between horses and they all died. Just to feed me, feed my dark soul before I could make a picture. feed my dark side. There's a thing that's insane that happens. So Craig T. Nelson, he

bashes through the driveway door, goes super fast down this driveway. I hate back and out of these driveways where there's like walls on both sides, a narrow driveway like that. And this is exactly why Craig T. Nelson, like a goddamn pinball machine, you know, against the walls here. But did you notice the crazy bit of extra driving that happens? Like, he gets out of the driveway and it's like, all right, we got to go to Questa Verde, let's go. He does a quick

just loop around the neighbor's lawn and fucks up their whole yard for no reason. Good, fuck them. It's just kind of great. The whole lawn is destroyed because he's like doing donuts before they take off.

Leading on the horn as he does it. Fuck you. Yeah, Jeff. Okay, yeah, your fence is a little fucked up. Try having your house implode, all right? See ya. And meanwhile, Robbie is like, are we going to the orthodontist? Is this, are we going to stop with the orthodontist before we get to Christopher Verde or?

I can't help me notice that the orthodontist is south. You're going north. What's going on here? I haven't heard the words oral surgeon in a while and I would love to hear them. But yeah, so they get back to Questervide. Tangina is just there hanging out. She's like, oh, you finally made it. I've been sleeping in this whole.

for a week. I just knew you'd come back. Also something I know. Hey, Craig T. Nelson. Ooh, I see your future child. You're going to be in a show with Dick Van Dyck's brother. It's

going to last longer than you wanted to, child, but you're going to be having a great time. And they're going to try to bring it back many decades later, but then everybody's going to agree that it sucks balls. Man, they brought that one back too, huh? They tried about that.

They tried to. And I don't even think they aired it. It was so bad. Yeah, I don't know that they aired it. I mean, they should have taken a note. Another production that should have taken a note from the failed coach reboot was the failed Murphy Brown. Yeah, dude.

Let's just not air. Like, we watched the first episode of it. And it was like, nah. Well, because both of them did the stupid, like, the weirdest choice was like, I think if both coach and in that, like, their, their children are, like, political commentators. Well, that was Murphy Brown's son was, like, also a reporter or something. Yeah. And he's, like, more right, like, he's a little bit more moderate, or right wing or something

like that. And, like, coach's son was going to be, like, a liberal. Oh, that's, oh, is that right? It was, you can't have that. Hell. Hell on Earth. Well, you hear the new news about Frasier coming back now. Yeah, I did see that. And I just watched Moonstructed a other night.

Awesome movie. Got the Criterion. And John Mahoney's in it. And it just reminded me like, how the fuck are you going to do Frasier without John Mahoney? Good luck, dude. Good fucking luck. Make him a poltergeist. Oh, no, Niles' dad's chair.

It's moving around. It's like reclining and then declining again. Fraser, like, draws a circle and the floor. Watch this, Niles. Put his dad's chair in the one circle and it goes across the room to the other circle. Oh, no. This are the living room is haunted by dad

and the bedroom is haunted by Eddie and the courtyard is haunted by Maris. She's still alive. She's just still way for thin and wandering around. I mean, I totally feel you on that, Steve. That was my thought, too. I mean, the thing is, we just

finished, like, the full series rewatch a few months ago. And, you know, yes, the interaction with John Mahoney was always great, but, like, that show was still able to fire on all cylinders having Kelsey Grammer interact with any of the

other three leads also. So, like, if they could get them, which I mean, you know, they could get them. They're not doing much. Like, you could do something, but you're right, it's going to be weird without Martin, for sure. I think also the problem is going to be that Kelsey

Grammer lost his sense of humor I don't think he's funny anymore he's just not funny anymore it's fine it happens but like it just happened and like now he just does money playing movies like that's what my question though he only made one money plane Chris to be fair

he's going to make more stop it I hope so pretend to Kelsey Gramer is going to have a non money playing career but Chris Chris hang on a second but you're acting as if Kelsey grammar was hilarious any time he wasn't playing Frazier, when was that? What else?

What else did this comedic genius give us that you're referencing? Sightrobaub. Sightrobaub, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, I would say, Frazier is enough. Like, if you create a character like Frasier, I'm kind of, if it's that big and you get

that many laughs out of it, that's fine. But that's what I'm saying, though, is like, I'm sure he can still play Frasier. You know what I mean? brought up as IMDB. Who could forget down periscope. Oh, dude, I saw that shit in the theater. Yikes. It's terrible. It might be a state tuned, actually. I don't know. Anyway, Frazier reboot aside. We get back to

Questa Verde. We go down into the graveyard cave situation, and Diane and Carolan get sucked away to the other side immediately. Like, they're not down there for three minutes. It's a thing. They're consumed by the other side. I mean, the ending of this movie is so slap dash and

so short. You needed to if your idea is you've got to hit that 90 minute mark, you've got to cut the middle then. Because like the ending is the whole thing. Or did they run out of money? Like I'm just really confused. I know. I think it's a we thought this other stuff was way more interesting. I don't know.

Yeah. Because this ending, it takes two seconds to wrap this whole thing up. Right. So they're in the other side and then it's like oh the love of the families what's going to destroy everyone obviously if it was if you were a single mother you're you're dead yeah you'll love enough you need to have a nuclear family to survive a ghostly encounter apparently and then we get the spear like wait Craig t nelson walks into the fire this fire portal to the other side pretty interesting detail that taylor cooks up yeah it's neat yeah Taylor's just there too I guess

like her and uh tanjina and taylor were just kind of like hanging out in this hole for a couple days yeah dude just getting like the magic dragon hey uh taylor did did you bring enough beard child i think this is like a three 12 pack situation and i can really put him away y'all i mean taylor he's got big arms 30 racks bring two 30 racks yeah totally absolutely Taylor, I already had 12 beers before I drove over here, child. Oh, is all you have to eat is luncheables? Oh, damn. Taylor, you shouldn't.

I'm sorry. Taylor, I don't know, could you get some apples or something? Like, my God. Taylor, do you really think a powerful psychic such as myself can survive? five on nothing but PBR and slim jigs, y'all. Oh, a party bag of bugles. Come on, Taylor. What are you doing?

I appreciate that bags of combos are very expensive nowadays. But we can't just sustain on all of them, child. Ooh, ranch Pringle swinging in missed, Taylor. Did you seriously only bring beer and clear Pepsi? Oh, man. Ew. Well, I thought that, you know, Taylor's speaking. I'm not doing an impression.

Oh, sure. I thought getting crystal Pepsi would keep us, you know, more in tune with the new age. Yes. It's like crystals. Hey, Taylor, have you found a non-haunted place to piss in this cave? Because honestly, I don't want all these ghosts looking at me. And I've been drinking beer after beer.

I've been putting them back. I've got to break the seal, Taylor. Taylor's definitely pissing in some skulls mouth. He doesn't give a shit. Oh, Taylor, I apologize for asking you to bring some greens. I couldn't have thought that asparagus was the greens you were going to think of. This place is unlivable now, child. Execuate.

Strap in, Taylor, this is going to get disgust in real quick, y'all. It's like living in a bath of ammonia. It's terrible. uh yeah he's just he's just there and he's like he's just there yeah he also hears him and he goes to him and he's like you got to go into the fire

and see the other side and stay together and yes uh if you are and uh all of your your whole family's here right every single one of them uh yeah sure yeah yeah yeah we we all love each other yeah put all your family into the ghost dimension right now it's amazing and then Taylor is then he puts in the spear and I thought it was going to be like grab onto it I'll pull you out but yeah well it's great because not only does Craig T Nelson go to the other side but so does Robbie and I'm just picturing this kid standing in front of the fire like so dad if we walk through this wall of flames like the dentist's offices on the other side right get the the ortho there get these things off my faces just through the fire right it would suck for them to you know it's especially Roby to grow old and die and then be like, oh, this again.

Oh, definitely. Been there, done that other side. Real impressive. They, yeah, do they go through it? And, like, you know, we're seeing the other side. It's kind of fun. It's a lot of green screen stuff, you know. Yeah.

Space and whatever. Yeah. It looks okay. You know, it's the only visually interesting thing in the movie. It's like if outer space was just spider webs or something. I just don't like the fucking Wilfer Brimley. end of the thing face tower.

Yes, that's very stupid. Right, yeah, that was dumb. And it was apparently a fake out.

Like, oh, that's just what the beast wants you to see. Oh, okay, because it was interesting.

Yeah, the one interesting thing to look at would be the fake thing, wouldn't it? You just said you didn't like it. But it's interesting.

Like, it's the same thing with the brace thing. Like, it brings up the monotony of it. So something to look at at least. I'm going to throw a spear

through the internet and hit you. A light spear? You're not with your whole family, Eric. you can't do that that's true i would very i would perish in front of ghosts because i don't have kids well that's like ghosts don't even bother with single people like i gotta fuck them yeah probably yeah uh so fun here haunting a one person so they like they they defeat uh cane here by throwing that spear in them yes but then yeah that's it in all of 30 seconds grand what a grand battle it was well to be fair

Like, the little girl, Carol Ann, disappears, right? She goes into the light. Yeah, in the, in the scuffle, she gets knocked loose from the family. Yeah. And just gets sucked in. And then it's great, Taylor's like, I have lost. Oh, boy, this is a, yikes. That's good.

Oh, I'm so fired. I'm so fucking fired. Hey, Taylor, I'm going to start the car, y'all. Leave these fucking white people to them. to their death. Quick, close the fire portal, Taylor. We just got to get out of here, child. You accidentally kill that girl.

I can't die in prison, Taylor. We're going to go back out to the desert to that tall rock and just live there. But I guess the grandma, I guess, is the angel here. Is that right? Yes. That brings her back. It is so hysterical. because this woman, this grandma, ghost, angel, whatever,

just has this look on her face like, well, lucky thing I died. Goodbye, family. I think it turns out, you know, Caroline, you know, heaven didn't want her and hell was afraid she'd take over. Heaven is full. That's right. I've saved Carol Ann.

Now you better stop fucking smoking. You better stop fucking smoking or I'm taking her back. You hear me? When heaven is full, the dead will walk the earth. and now, you know, your daughter has gone all the way to heaven and back. She's a zombie. Oh, absolutely.

Craig T. Nelson, absolutely terrible line when they come back from the other side. He goes to Taylor and he's like, some battle, huh? And I was like, no, it wasn't. It was terrible. Did you see what just happened? You were in there for four minutes. Garbage. It sucks. And then they just kind of,

Zelda Rubinstein disappears. Dude, yes, this is the grand. of continuity errors right here. Yes. She's just gone. And then Taylor is just like, hey, man. So about my price kind of thing. It's like, it can't help but notice that your whole family's alive. And I still don't have a car.

So, you know. Yeah. I mean, there's this whole weird thing earlier in the film where like he works on it. And then like it still doesn't drive right. And Craig T. Nelson's doing a lot of like that guy purposely ruined my car. you know so then yeah the dude takes it but the funniest thing is you see them they all come out of this hole because Zelda Rubinstein is right there with Carol Ann there's a really bad ADR where they have her say something stupid like that place was crazy go back it is something like that

I swear to you that is the wackiest place I've been in a while like you see her standing right there holding the child it cuts in on this two shot of Taylor and Craig T. Nelson, they have the bit about like, oh, your car's still not happy unless I take it with me. And he drives off. And then it's this gag of like, wait a minute, how are we going to get home? And the movie ends with Craig T. Nelson running after being like, Taylor, we need the car. And like, Zelda Rubinstein is not standing there. She's absolutely not standing there. It's insane. Oh, no. In one last, in one last thrash of violence, Kane took my life, child. Ooh, I got pulled back into the pool hole, y'all.

But she's in the third one, right? She is. She's back in the third one. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I was reading something about, like, she had to leave part of the production. Oh, no, that was the third movie.

She had to leave the, yeah, in the third movie, she had to leave the production because her mother died. So I don't know why she's missing from this shot. It is the grandest of fuck us. Oh, child, like at the end, while the fucking Craig T. Nelson is running after the car. the family's saying like she's oh oh i'm sorry child i had to run into the house and take a piss

after all that i i had been drinking beer and mountain dew and all other shit i had to piss immediately what happened they probably filmed like a goodbye scene with her and then they just thought it was repreditive to do another one with taylor so they just cut it and but i mean the end is so lame of them like running after their car shaking their fists it's like it's like a bad like Benny Hill bit. It's like a Captain Ron ending. It's like it's like an antique fool who we've been

hanging out with did one last like fool thing and that's how we end our movie. But that's it's a fucking family horror movie. Well the thing is we were introduced with Craig T. Nelson always being a fucking like mad ape and we laugh at his antics

you know like trying to get beer home in the first movie. And I think it's just trying to establish that like everything's back to normal. look at this lovable oaf getting into one of his scrapes by yelling at some right now now like yeah the biggest problem is like it's a sitcom problem the first movie ends on a joke too but it's a pretty it's a pretty good one they go to a motel obviously and like the last shot is Craig t nelson wheeling the tv out angrily oh yeah yes and slamming the door and they go to bed and like that's that's a joke that works and it's like kind of a fun

little punchline yeah yeah but yeah it's a joke that ties into like the struggle you know that they just went through and everything. This is just like, he's taking your car. You don't have a ride or nothing. Isn't that funny? Yeah, you're waiting for like the big like Sam and Dave horn score to come in. Yes, exactly.

Like, and like, but da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. And like, no, it was a ghost movie. Or Ico, Ico is going to start playing. Yes. Yes.

That's my grandma. Oh, my God. You have that, you've pinpointed exactly, I think, trying to encapsulates you, but you're right. It's the it ends on a joke that if Ico Ico started

playing as the credits rolled, it would all feel totally natural. Exactly. Like the end of K-9, right? I think that's one of the biggest Ico-Ico endings ever, right? Man, yeah, total fucking Duke catastrophe this movie. I mean, oof, so bad that like

I haven't seen it in a while, but I'm pretty sure part three for all the troublesome stuff with that production and and all the tragedies and everything. I think it might still be a better movie than this one. I'm not entirely sure about that, but the only returning characters are Carol Ann and Zelda Rubinstein's characters. That's it.

No one else from these movies are in it. And in that way, it's like, then it's at least just a series about a haunted girl. Like it's still kind of a different family, so it still feels like that idea you were talking about Eric where it's like, this movie should have just been a different family altogether anyway. Yeah, but if they get rid of, if it's just the little girl,

then it's sort of like you streamline it. You don't have to deal with all these other characters. Yeah, I could see that. And it's transplanted to Chicago. They live, they have an apartment in the Hancock Tower. Yeah, it's a completely different feeling movie, which I think is the move. I mean, we're literally back in the same goddamn hole

from the last movie in this one. But that is the movie. Would anybody recommend it? We'll start with you, Steve Sadek, big poltergeist fan. Actually, I don't like either of these movies. I don't, I actually, I would recommend, it's a light recommend for me on this one. I think that the, the vomit monster is really something to behold and the ensuing wacky chaos. And that 20 minute stretch for me is worth it.

It's a pill inside, it's, it's the bacon inside of the, that surrounds the pill of this movie kind of a thing. The movie's a mess, but it's a very light recommend for me. uh eric ciska yeah um i i do like the first movie enough like i'm not i'm not one of the biggest fans of it um but i would say check that out and if you really like it then maybe check this one out i wouldn't recommend it necessarily at all i didn't care for this movie i think there's a lot of nothing surrounding uh not much although the uh the little worm guy was fun so there you go uh chris cabin uh no god this movie sucks uh the first i actually am a pretty big fan of the first one i think you get a lot of the

good stuff from spilberg and a lot a lot of lot of good stuff from hooper in that um but yeah this to me is just like we had no idea of what we wanted to do for this second one so we just took a hundred ideas and threw them all at the wall uh and it and the end like it doesn't feel like a movie to me like i really like i mean what i'm mad at the beginning like to me this is just a bunch of ideas let's try them half baked throw them together maybe we put poltergeist too above it maybe it makes sense to people doesn't really make sense to me first one was really good though so yeah yeah i mean i think that first movie is fine uh like i said i think three might be better than this i don't know i mean if you like that first one continue the journey what i would also recommend though is

the the remake is actually not half bad oh really i didn't know there was one yeah yeah it came out like 2015, I think. I believe Sam Rockwell is the dad. Yep. Wow. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I remember being like, oh, okay, like, it tries to lean in more on being like a straight up horror movie than I think even Paltkeised One does. But I would say that's kind of also worth your time. But really only if, like, any of these sequels are only worth your time.

If you watch that first one and you're like, yeah, I could do a little more with this. But if, yeah, if Poltergeist One doesn't grab you, don't bother um so that's it that is poltergeist too from 1986 directed by brian gibson uh and of course a big thank you to gary dean who uh called this one in the only person to request pultergeist too that pretty impressive yeah that this got through good job gary you know i'm starting to think that he might be a ghost from the other side that makes sense oh yeah right that professional you never know that professional phone call he's calling from the 50s or something.

Big thanks to him for calling this one in. And now if you want more we hate movies, of course, over on Patreon, listener request month is also going on. Patreon.com slash we hate movies. We have a we love movies episode all up about Goodfellas. That was a lot of fun.

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Sometime in the next two weeks, we'll be dropping the Snyder sessions on our $10 tier there, which is our take on the four-hour Snyder cut. Boy, boy, boy. Oh, yeah. Looking at when we're recording this right now, we got another

unfortunately, it looks like another 12 days to wait until we can see that masterpiece. but we're really excited about that of course and as always on the free feed we hate movies continues next Tuesday there will be an all new listener requested episode and Steve what are folks making us watch next week

pack some rations and get some extra oxygen because we'll be going to the vertical limit I can't wait I never saw it I never thought either I just know this one was requested a couple times as well and I know it's a Chris O'Donnell joint nice love it yeah now we're talking so until next week with sexy chris o'donnell i'm andrew jupin stephen sadak eric cisco chris cabin take it easy child

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